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[Special Town Council Work Session on October 5, 2020.]

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LET'S CALL IT A TOWN COUNCIL, SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER THIS EVENING FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER THE FIFTH, 2020.

OUR FIRST ITEMS AT NIGHT IS WE NEED TO GO AND CLOSE MEETING ITEM, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOMEBODY HAVE, GIVE ME A MOTION PLEASE.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THE COUNCIL CONVENED AND GO INTO CLOSE MEETING REGARDING A BANK LOAN TO FINANCE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THIS AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT, WHERE A DISCUSSION AND AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF TOWN COUNCIL.

THE SECTION 2.2 DASH 37, 11.8 POINT 29 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AND CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL PURSUANT THE SECTION 2.2 DASH 37, 11.8 0.8 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO A CLOSED BD FOR A FEW MINUTES.

DOOR WILL BE OPEN AGAIN.

NUMBER 11 CANADA

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SAYING IT'S OKAY.

I MOVE THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL CERTIFIED IT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE IS RECOGNIZED BY EACH MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AFFIRMATIVE THOUGH THAT ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS OFF THE LEAD CENTER AND OPEN THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA GAVE THE INFORMATION THAT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED.

WE'RE CONSIDERING THE CLOSE MEANING BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY A ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL.

OKAY.

THE SECOND CAMERA MAYOR TILA.

YES.

VICE MAYOR.

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COUNCILMAN COCKRELL.

YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

COUNCILMAN HOLLOWAY.

YES.

COUNCILMAN METTA.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR SPECIAL MEETING TONIGHT, I NEED A MOTION TO HAVE, WE WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE CLOSED MEDIA AND NOW WE HAVE ONE MOTION TO BRING FORWARD TONIGHT.

CONCERNS ALONE FROM, WITH 90 BAGS THAT I HEAR ABOUT MR. MAYOR COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER TO WRITE A BIOLOGIC COMMITMENT LETTER FROM UNITED THING DATED SEPTEMBER 29, 2020, REFLECTING THE AMOUNT OF $8,483,001 15 CENTS MOTION.

AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL PLEASE.

WELL, SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO OUR, OUR INNER MANAGER AND OUR COUNCIL FOR GETTING THIS THING THROUGH.

UM, I JUST WISHED THAT IT COULD HAVE DONE, DONE, DONE A LOT SOONER.

AND FOR, UH, THE RATE THAT WE GOT, UM, I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND WE FINALLY GOT WHAT WE FEEL LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.

I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THIS OFF.

AND WHAT ELSE I WOULD LOVE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING AS HARD DILIGENTLY AS THEY DID TO GET THIS MONKEY OFF OF BACK.

I AM SUPER EXCITED.

WE GOT A GREAT RATE ON THIS LOAN, WHICH SHARES IT WOULD BE UPSET TOO.

AND I THINK HE WAS A GREAT DEAL.

I'M RELIEVED THAT THE ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THE FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

I'M THANKFUL THAT IT APPEARS THAT THIS WILL SAVE THE TOWN TAXPAYERS, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER THE MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS REMOVES AN OBSTACLE TO RESOLVING THE CURRENT LITIGATION BETWEEN THE TOWN, THE ADA I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN NOW WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE OUR DIFFERENCES AND MOVE FORWARD AND REFOCUS OUR EFFORTS TOWARDS BRINGING THOSE WHO HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES TO JUSTICE.

ALSO LIKE TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, MATT, WITH THIS BEING TAKEN OFF, YOU KNOW, THIS $8.4 MILLION, WHAT WOULD BE AT A BIG PART OF THAT LITIGATION WITH EDA? OH, SEE IF YOU GET ONE WITH COUNSEL OR LEGAL COUNSEL AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION OF THIS LAWSUIT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

I I'LL BE THE NEXT STEP.

ABSOLUTELY.

VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YEP.

SO I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WHAT I'M QUITE PLEASED ABOUT AS I'D LIKE TO THANK THE INTERIM TOWN MANAGER AND OF COURSE, BJ AND OUR AUDITOR, UH, WE SPENT A LOT OF HOURS, UH, JUSTIFYING THAT 8.4 MILLION AND WE ALL AGREED TO IT AND I'M JUST SORRY THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN SOONER, BUT WHAT'S EVEN BETTER AS I READ THIS, THERE ARE NO SECONDARY LEANS ON THIS.

THERE ARE NO FEES AND NO PREPAYMENT PENALTIES.

SO YOU'RE TALKING THREE, FOUR OR $500,000 RIGHT HERE ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS A FACT SAVINGS THROUGH OUR CONSTITUENTS.

SO MY, UH, MY APPRECIATION GOES BACK.

WE REALLY PUSHED THIS FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS MR. STEELE.

I CAN JUST TO ADD A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, TWO, ONE, ONE POINT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT COUNCIL WAS, UM, BEING PRESSURE TO REFINANCE THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST AT THREE AND THREE QUARTERS PERCENT.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET ONE AND 1.8, 7%, AND THAT'S ABOUT A $1 MILLION SAVINGS, UH, TO THE CITIZENS, AS WELL AS THE ORIGINATION FEE.

AS YOU MENTIONED, MR. , YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR A LOAN LIKE THIS TO HAVE ANYWHERE FROM A HALF A POINT TO ONE POINT ORIGINATION FEE, THAT'S 400,000 TO $800,000.

UM, AND THEN WE BUDGETED $500,000 A YEAR.

THIS LOAN IS ACTUALLY COSTING US 369,006 74.

SO FROM A CASHFLOW PERSPECTIVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE'RE SAVING 130,003 26.

AND THE LAST POINT I WANTED TO SAY IS I TOO WANT TO THANK, UH, BJ, BJ WILSON, UH, DEFINITELY, UM, DAMIANI AND DAMIANI LAW FIRM.

UH, THEY REALLY WORKED HARD BEHIND THE SCENES, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, I THINK WE NEED ALL THANK UNITED BANK.

YOU KNOW, UNITED BANK HAS BEEN A VICTIM IN THIS JUST LIKE TOWN COUNCIL AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AND FRANKLY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE EDA EVERYBODY'S BEEN VICTIMIZED IN THIS SITUATION, UNITED BANK CAME TO THE TABLE WITH US AND STARTED HAVING GOOD HONEST DISCUSSIONS WITH US IN A VERY TRANSPARENT DISCUSSIONS.

AND IT WAS DURING THE COURSE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET TERMS LIKE THIS, THIS WASN'T THE FIRST, THIS WASN'T THE FIRST, UH, OFFER THEY MADE.

AND SO WE WENT BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES AND WE FOUND A MEETING OF THE MINDS, AND I THINK WE GOT A GREAT, A GREAT LOAN FOR A GREAT PD,

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UM, AT GREAT RATES AND GREAT TERMS. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

UH, PART OF THE INSURANCE AS IN S FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.

59,000 DEEJAY.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THAT'S SIGNIFICANT TIP, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE CAN RESOLVE THAT IN THE NEXT ROUND OF DISCUSSIONS WITH EDA, RIGHT.

UM, I LIKE TO THINK, MAN, I LIKE TO THANK YOU AND STAFF AS WELL AND UNITED BACK MAINLY BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG STEP IN OUR DIRECTION.

UH, GET THE SOLVER PLATE, THEN WE CAN BEGIN TO MOVE ALONG AND GET THINGS BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN.

SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING.

WE CAN GO TO BED WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT SPINNING THE, OR HAVING TO, OH, THE 8.4 BILLION.

WE'LL HAVE TO PAY IT BACK.

BUT, UH, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE COULD ALL SIT HERE AND SAY THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST THING THAT I'VE SEEN THIS YEAR THAT'S HAPPENED.

SO ARE THEY PROUD OF THEM? SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO TOOK PART IN ANYONE ELSE.

YEAH, I GUESS WHEN I HAD TO TAKE THEM ON, BUT THE THING UNITED BANK, OF COURSE, MATT BZ AND EVERYBODY WHO HAD A HAND IN WORKING ON THIS AND GETTING THIS RESOLVED, UM, IT, HUGE RELIEF GOT A ROLL CALL.

YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE, COUNCILMAN HOLLOWAY, COUNCILMAN MEZA COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

OKAY.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPECIAL SESSION TONIGHT AT THIS TIME, WE'LL BEGIN OUR WORK SESSION FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER THE FIFTH, 2020, THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT, IS THERE AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO TOWN CODE FOUR DASH ONE, FOUR DASH 1.1 REGARDING LOCATIONS AND ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING REMOTELY, MATT, MR. PEREZ, AND NOT A WHOLE LOT TO THIS ITEM.

WE JUST NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR CODE AS IT RELATES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REMOTE MEETING.

SO WE'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT SYSTEM, ALLOWING PLANNING, COMMISSION AND OTHER BOARDS, AND TO, TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE REMOTELY.

EVERYTHING'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ORDINANCE.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALSO HAVE TIM WILSON HERE.

UH, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK THIS IS GOOD.

UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, SOME OF THE CLARIFICATION IN THE LANGUAGES, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, HAS BEEN NEEDED, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SO THANKS FOR CLEANING IT UP.

ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I, I UNDERSTAND THIS.

SO IF A, UH, A MEMBER OF THE TOWN PUBLIC BODY MEMBER CANNOT ATTEND A MEETING AND IT TALKED IN THERE ABOUT IT BEING LIKE A PERSONAL MATTER SCOPE, HOW OFTEN CAN THAT HAPPEN OR HOW OFTEN CAN IT NOT HAVE? AND IT SAYS 25% OF MEETINGS, UM, TWO MEETINGS IN THE YEAR.

I JUST THINK LIKE, SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE A VACATION.

YEAH.

REMEMBER WHAT EACH CALENDAR YEAR, WHICHEVER SEE WHERE IT'S ON ITEM C 4.1, ONE C.

OKAY.

TO BE ABLE TO USE ELECTRONIC MEANS.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE NOT JUST MISSING THE MEETING OR ANYTHING, BUT DID YOU BE ATTENDING, RIGHT? YEAH.

I JUST WAS CURIOUS.

CAUSE I KNOW WE MEET MORE OFTEN THAN, YOU KNOW, THAN OTHER BOARDS.

I WAS JUST THINKING ONE VACATION, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AS LONG AS YOU CAN IS NOT, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

SO WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER MORE TIMES.

I JUST THINK IT COULD BE TOUGH UNDER STATE LAW.

THE JANIA CODE THAT SAYS ITEM C SAYS WHEN SUCH REMOTE INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC BODY PARTICIPATION IS DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OR PERSONAL MATTERS.

SUCH PARTICIPATION IS LIMITED BY THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, THE TWO MEETINGS OR 25% OF THE MEETINGS OF THE PUBLIC BODY, PUBLIC BODY, UH, OR THAT'S FOUR PER PUBLIC BODY.

REMEMBER EACH CALENDAR YEAR, WHICHEVER.

SO WE ACTUALLY GET MORE THAN THAT.

WHICHEVER'S FEWER.

IF PEOPLE HAVE LESS THAN TWO MEETINGS A YEAR FOR ME, NO, THIS IS YOU COULD MISS.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN CUT ME.

YOU CAN DIAL IN REMOTELY TWO MEETINGS OR 25, WHICHEVER IS FEWER.

OKAY.

25% OF 52.

CAUSE WE HAVE 52 WEEKS AT 52 MEETINGS.

THAT'S LIKE 25% OF THAT 1350 MEETINGS, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR ME.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING

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PUBLIC HEARING.

OH YEAH.

IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? PUT IT ON PUBLIC HERE? YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY I APPLIED THEM.

NUMBER TWO LIAISON COMMITTEE MEETING ITEMS FOR OCTOBER THE 22ND.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE PROBABLY TWO ITEMS. UH, AS FAR AS STAFF ANTICIPATES, ONE IS A, UH, THE SEPTIC HALL, UM, MOU WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, WE MAY WANT TO DISCUSS THAT.

WE'LL PROBABLY DISCUSS THAT AT THE NEXT TOWN COUNCIL, REGULAR MEETING, MOST LIKELY IN CLOSED SESSION.

AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY COME OUT AND TRY TO DISCUSS, I WOULD ANTICIPATE DISCUSSING AT 22ND WITH, WITH THE COUNTY.

AND THEN I DON'T KNOW MR. MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO PUT THE OPIOID SUBSTANCE ABUSE ITEM FOR LIAISON, I, BUT THAT'S ALL THE TEMP STAFF COULD THINK OF.

YEAH.

LET'S PUT IT DOWN THERE.

EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING THIS THURSDAY WITH QUITE A FEW, AND BY THE WAY, HERE, I'M GOING TO PLACE YOU ON THE MEETINGS.

ONE OF OUR LIAISON PEOPLE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING THIS THURSDAY AT EIGHT 30 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THE PARAMETERS AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE TO THE NEXT STEP WHERE WE GO FROM AND TO THE ACTUAL MEETINGS AND ALL THE OTHER THING, GETTING IT ALL TOGETHER SO WE CAN GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE COUNTY, THE STATE, WHOEVER.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE BEGIN THURSDAY MORNING AT EIGHT 30 AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CONTINUE ALL WITH THEM.

ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF, WE SELL, YOU SEE ON THE LAST MEETING, JULY 16, 20, 20, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SWAG SYSTEM.

I THINK THAT'S, IT DOESN'T NEED A BIT DISCUSSED UPDATE ON TOURISM.

WE COULD PROBABLY KEEP THAT ON THERE AND GIVE THEM AN UPDATE, UH, UPDATE ON HALFORD ROAD.

THAT'S OFF, BUT THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES.

SO AS FAR AS TALENT GOES FROM STAFF, WE CAN SEE UPDATE ON TOURISM AND THEN SEPTIC HALL AND OPIOID SUBSTANCES ABUSE.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE THROUGH THE MEETING AND READ THE AGENDA FOR THE 19TH, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN GET IT ADDED.

WE'RE BACK TO THAT SHOP.

THEY CALL HALLOWEEN.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO? IT CAUSES THE TIMES RAN OUT OR WHAT? NO, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TIMEFRAME.

UM, THERE'S OTHER ISSUES.

THERE'S OTHER ISSUES WE WANT TO DISCUSS IN CLOSING, WE HAD SIGNED A DOCUMENT THAT THEY CAN DO THAT WHEN WE BUILT THE PLANT.

CORRECT.

ON THE PORTION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? ANYBODY GOING TO THAT ONE? WHO'S THE NEXT PERSON THAT GOES? I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, I'M NOT SURE WAS SENT OUT TO YOU AND SENT THAT OUT.

WHO'D YOU, UH, SIGN THEM AND LET THEM BE AWARE OF IT.

THE BEES WHO WAS ON THE SAME MEETING WITH YOU, HE HAS NOT ATTENDED THIS YEAR HAVING TO PASS THOUGH.

HAVE YOU EVER ATTENDED LIAISON? NO, I TRUE.

T HAS GOT A SCHEDULE FOR ALL OF US.

SO CHECK WITH HER AND THEN LET US KNOW.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

BAR PAPER TOGETHER HERE.

NEXT ITEM IS ITEM THREE, THE B OR TERM NOVEMBER.

NOW, DID YOU SEE, UH, LAUREN RUNYON AND NANCY? HE WAS TERMS EXPIRING FOR YOUR VIEW.

ON NOVEMBER 13TH, MS. RANIA WAS APPOINTED TO THE BAR DECEMBER 9TH TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TERM.

SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REAPPOINTMENT STAY.

I WAS NOT CONFIRMED IF MR. WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

WE'VE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN REACHING THAT SHE MAY BE TRAVELING.

THOSE ARE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT'S ALREADY SENT THEIR APPLICATION IN OR FOR THE BAR? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.

NO.

WE USED TO KEEP A RUNNING LIST OF THOSE WHO MAY WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND WE'D CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE LIKE, Y'ALL WANT TO ADVERTISE FOR THIS POSITION.

UH, OR SINCE WE DON'T KNOW, BUT LITERALLY HERE, I GUESS PROBABLY A SMART THING TO DO SINCE WE HAVE HEARD.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

YES.

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF WE GET ANYBODY ELSE.

MAYBE AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT MAYBE THAT YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE TWO POSITIONS OR ONE.

WELL, I WOULD SAY JUST THE ONE THAT THIS MORNING WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE

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THAT WANTS TO BE PUT IN PLACE BY GOING.

OKAY.

SHE HASN'T BEEN AROUND THAT LONG EITHER.

IS THAT YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM.

EXCELLENT ITEM HERE.

ITEM FOUR, RESOLUTION TO VALLEY HEALTH AND ANTHEM.

WAS THIS IN THE, DID YOU GUYS GET A COPY OF THIS IN THE BOX? UH, YEAH, IT WASN'T.

IT WAS CALLING YOUR ADVAIR PACKAGE.

EXCUSE MYSELF FROM THIS.

NO GUESSING I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS FOR THE RECORD, BUT I PROBABLY SHOULD RECUSE MYSELF FROM IT.

OKAY.

FIVE OF 20 MINUTES ALONG THE LINES.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE, OH, JAKE, ARE YOU GOING TO RECUSE THE SIR? OKAY.

YOU MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.

SO THEN WE'LL GET INTO THIS DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, SO I HAVE NOT SEEN, UH, THE RESOLUTION.

THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNSEL AND I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE RESOLUTION OR A VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION, CONSIDERING THAT IT'S MY EMPLOYER.

THANKS JAKE.

UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS RESOLUTION, I KNOW THAT LATASHA, UH, I, SHE, I'D ALREADY TALKED TO MATT ABOUT IT, PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S JUST A RESOLUTION ASKING THE ANTHEM AND VALLEY HEALTH TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ANTHEM AND, UH, ALL THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS IT.

WE HAVE IT QUITE A FEW OTHER BIG ORGANIZATIONS HAVE IT INCLUDING LOTS OF THEM IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, ESPECIALLY MOST OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. SO WE JUST WANT TO ASK THEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, AGILE AND GETTING THIS THING APPROVED SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T STILL OUT IN LEFT FIELD WHEN IT COMES TO 1ST OF JANUARY, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IF ANTHEM DROPS VALLEY HEALTH DROPS, ANTHEM, AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THEM IS GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER GO TO NORTHERN VIRGINIA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, HARRISONBURG TO GET, GET THEIR DOCTORS, BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING TO PAY THROUGH THE VALLEY HEALTH SYSTEM IN REGARDS TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RECEIVE.

AND THEN IF WE GO LOCAL AGAIN, AND THOSE WHO'VE HAD ANTHEM, WE PAYING AN EXTRA FEE TO GO TO THE DOCTORS THAT ARE NOT UNDER THE ACTUAL, UH, UH, CAN'T THINK OF THE WORD, UH, EXCEPT IT'S EXCEPT PROVIDERS.

OKAY.

AND SO I THOUGHT MAYBE IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO JUST SEND THEM A LETTER, TELL THEM WE'RE CONCERNED.

AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM WORK A LITTLE HARDER TO GET THIS RESOLVED.

NATASHA, YOU WANT TO, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY ON WEDNESDAY, AND I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE THE SAME THING, INCLUDING THE WINCHESTER AND JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

I GUESS THEY BOTH GRABBED THE PAPER, THAT ONE, WE HAVE A DRAFT DRAFT RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO THE 19TH AND ADOPTED OR DR.

NATALIE HILL IS IN A MONOPOLISTIC POSITION.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE IN MY OPINION.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT MADE IT LISTED SOMEWHERE ELSE TOO.

I THINK THAT SHOULD ALMOST SAY, BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE URGENCY OF WHY WE NEED THIS WORKED OUT.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN A CRITICAL MEDICAL SITUATION, YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO WAR MEMORIAL, WHICH IS VALLEY HEALTH.

OR IF FOR SOME REASON YOU CAN MAKE IT TO WINCHESTER THAT'S VALLEY HEALTH.

SO IT IS KIND OF FOR THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS BASICALLY THE ONLY HOSPITAL WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND ALMOST ALL THE DOCTORS ARE THROUGH THEM.

ANYONE ELSE? WELL, GO AHEAD AND LOOK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS.

YOU ALL CAN LOOK AT IT.

YOU ALL SEE A MAJOR CHANGE AND GET BACK WITH MATT AND, UH, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL GET A COPY OF WHATEVER THE CHANGES ARE AND THAT WAY WE CAN EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING DONE ON THIS RESERVATION.

SO WHAT I CAN DO, CAN YOU GIVE ME COMMENTS, VARIOUS PHRASES YOU DON'T LIKE, OR WHATEVER, I CAN AMEND THE WORD DOCUMENT IN THE SURF, THE COMMENTS AND GET IT BACK OUT.

SO EVERYONE SEES THAT, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE.

YOU ALSO VOTE ON IT.

AND, UH,

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AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SORT OF PIGGYBACK WITH US ON THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE PROBABLY 1200 EMPLOYEES IT'S UNDER VALLEY HEALTH AT THAT HERON, OR THEY HAVE THEM THAT SERVES FIVE VALLEY HEALTH.

SO I'M SURE THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

WE HAD TWO CONFERENCE CALLS LAST WEEK ALONE, REGIONALLY, UH, THROUGH THE NORTHWEST OR NORTHERN SHADOW VALLEY PLANNING DISTRICT.

AND, UH, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SENDING IT TO ALL THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ALL THE COUNTY COUNTIES AND ALL THE TOWNS AND ASK THEM ALL TO ADOPT SOMETHING.

YEAH.

I TH I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT WE GET INVOLVED, I THINK THE BETTER, WE'LL ALL BE EXPOSED TO THOSE THAT HAVE ANTHEM AND USE VALLEY HILLS, WHICH WE ALL DID.

OKAY.

THAT'LL BE ONLY 19.

UH, I'VE TOLD, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE NEXT ITEM TONIGHT IS ITEM FIVE, HERE'S ROUND ONE AND ROUND TWO DISCUSSION.

UM, LET ME GET TO THE NOTES.

YEAH.

SO FOR ROUND ONE, I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE ISSUED 109 CHECKS.

THE SMALL BUSINESSES, TOTALLY $967,500.

UM, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY $309,058 REMAINING, UH, AS IT RELATES TO ROUND ONE.

AND, UM, WHAT STAFF AND I WERE CONTEMPLATING IS TO, UH, TAKE THAT $309,000.

IF YOU LOOK AFTER THE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PAGE IN YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, BJ DID A GREAT JOB AT FIGURING OUT A FORMULA THAT WE COULD JUST REISSUE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE 109 PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY APPLIED.

UM, TIER ONE, THEY WOULD GET $787 AND 50 CENTS.

THE NEXT TIER $1,575.

THE NEXT TIER 3,150 IN THE HIGHEST TIER $6,300.

THAT WOULD TAKE US TO 304,000.

UM, AND FRANKLY IT'S, UH, WE PLAYED AROUND WITH THE NUMBERS, SO THAT'S 31 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE ADDITIONAL PAYOUT.

SO WE WERE SUGGESTING AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE $4,295 AND 50 CENTS.

SO THAT WOULD BE FOR ROUND ONE AND FIGURE, WE BREAK THIS DISCUSSION DOWN INTO TWO ROUNDS TO TWO DISCUSSION POINTS AROUND ONE.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT ROUND TWO, PJ, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT VERY WELL? AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, SO THAT JUST EXPEDITES IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH APPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I THINK THAT'S GENIUS.

YEAH.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED TWO CHECKS BACK FROM THE COUNTY.

AND SO HOW, WHAT WERE THE AMOUNTS ON THE PHASE ONE WHERE THE TOTAL WAS NOT 167,000? WELL, BJ, HOW MUCH IS X? I BELIEVE? UH, RIGHT AROUND 850,000.

UH, WE STILL HAVE A FEW CHECKS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING WITH SUPPLY THEM WITH THE CLEAR CHECKS.

UH, SO WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE CHECKS TO CLEAR, BUT, UH, IT'S RIGHT AROUND 850,000, WE PRETTY MUCH RECEIVED MOST OF IT BACK THROUGH THE BOARD SUPERVISOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO WORRIES.

BUT I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AFTER SPEAKING WITH NIKKI, DAVE REALLY BEEN, THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE FOCUS FOR HIM.

YEAH.

WORKING ON THE CARES AND STRUGGLING TO GET THINGS DONE.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WITH NO, WITH NO ADDITIONAL STAFF, EITHER THEY DID ALL THIS.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S A PURE ARBITRARY NUMBER.

IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT HIGHER, WHICH MEANS WE COULD LOWER FROM 31 AND A HALF TO 31%, WHICH WOULD JUST BUMP UP THEIR CONTRIBUTION IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S UP TO, UP TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS, THIS IS A DRAFT.

SO THIS IS HOW MANY APPLICATIONS THEY ENDED UP GOING THROUGH NINE, SEVEN WERE APPROVED.

UM, THERE WERE, I BELIEVE, UM, A HANDFUL THAT WERE NOT APPROVED FOR OH YEAH, THERE ARE PLENTY.

THEY WEREN'T APPROVED.

RIGHT.

THAT WAS A COMMITTEE THAT LOOKED AT THOSE, RIGHT.

NOT JUST THE CHAMBER.

SO THE CHAMBER ESSENTIALLY JUST WROTE OUT THE CHECKS.

YES.

MA'AM.

WELL, TO BE CLEAR, THE CHAMBER, THE COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF BILL CEYLON AND THREE CHAMBER BOARD MEMBERS.

UM, AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SHE WAS MANAGING IT.

AND THEN WE HAD A STAFF PERSON.

I WAS DOWN THERE FULL TIME DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, ACTUALLY I HAD

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THREE CHECKS.

THE FIRST WAS BJ'S STAFF MEMBER THAT WENT THROUGH AND MADE SURE THEY HAD A BUSINESS LICENSE.

AND, UH, THEN THE PRIMARY PERSON WENT THROUGH ALL THE FINANCIALS.

THEN THE NEXT PERSON WENT THROUGH IT AS WELL.

AND JOSEPH MADE SURE THE JUSTIFICATION WAS THERE.

AND ONCE THOSE TWO ARE APPROVED, IT THEN WENT OFF FOR THE BACK TO THE CHAMBER TO ISSUE A CHECK.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO GAUGE THE LEVEL ON MY WAS PRIMARY APPROVER ON SOME OF THEM I SECONDARY.

SO WE DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ALL 107.

RIGHT.

I ONLY SAW, YOU KNOW, MY SHARE AND THIS WAS ONLY FOR THE TOWN'S PORTION THEN WHATEVER.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE THE FORMULA WE CAME UP WITH AS A DRAFT, WE CAN, UM, PJ, WE'RE GOING TO NEED OFFICIAL VOTE ON THE 19TH OF THIS.

UM, YES, BECAUSE WE DID ALLOCATE, UM, WE ALLOCATED A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT TO THE CHAMBER, SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADMIT THAT.

SO YES, WE PAID THEM FOR THE FIRST RAIL.

SORRY.

DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE PAID THEM FOR THE FIRST ROUND? I DON'T THINK WE PAID THEM ANYTHING.

WE DIDN'T PAY THEM ANYTHING.

I SAID ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS OVER TO HELP THEM OUT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, BUT WE'D, HAVEN'T PAID THEM ANYTHING.

THEY, WE DID NOW.

WE DID, UM, THE COUNTY IN THE TOWN, UM, GAVE THEM, UH, 30,000 EACH THAT CAME OUT BEFORE THE CARES ACT.

UM, BUT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL GRANT ITSELF OR THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION OF IT.

SO I DID WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT, LIKE, NOT BEING ABLE TO, THAT WAS FROM THEIR LOSING ALL THEIR FUNDRAISERS.

I RECKON THAT BRINGS TO MIND THE TIME THAT OUR STAFF NUMBER I GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT TIME.

NO, I MEAN, IT WAS A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR US.

I MEAN, AND INSTEAD OF HELPING OUT DOWNSTAIRS, HE WENT OVER TO THE CHAMBER.

RIGHT.

AYE, AYE.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THE COUNTY TO APPROVE IT.

SURE.

SO I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD.

I THINK IT'S UP MEMBER PROBABLY MAKES $300,000 A YEAR.

SO THAT'S THE WAY SHE PUT IT.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS FORMULA? I WANT TO BUMP UP CHAMBER EVERYBODY.

GOOD? THANKS.

GOOD.

OKAY, GOOD.

LET'S GO TO, I'M HAPPY TO PAINT IT.

I'M ALSO HAPPY, UM, WITH A ROUND ANSWER AND EVEN FIVE IN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, IT'S NOT THAT EASY.

IT'S NOT THAT EASY BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IT SCREWS UP.

I MEAN, IT CHANGES THE FORMULA, THE MATHEMATICIAN.

I CAN MAKE IT GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, WHATEVER THE FORMULA IS, IF IT, IF IT BRINGS IT UP TO $5,000, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR DIVVYING OUT 1.27, $5 MILLION.

UM, SO I'M, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEIR PERSON, UM, UH, DEDICATED THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND WE'VE COLLAPSED ALL OF THE CHAMBER EVENTS DURING THE DAY.

WHAT I'LL DO I'LL I WILL, I WILL RUN THREE SCENARIOS MAYBE.

AND JUST LET YOU GUYS SEE THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND, UH, LET YOU PICK THE ONE AT THE MEETING YOU WANT TO VOTE ON.

OKAY.

THAT'D BE GOOD BJ.

YES, WE CAN DO THAT.

RIGHT.

SO FOR ROUND TWO, THIS IS QUITE INTERESTING.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA TAKE MY MASK OFF SO YOU CAN HEAR ME, AS YOU KNOW, WE ORIGINALLY, UM, SUBMITTED A SPENDING PLAN THAT WAS ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PEACE APP, WHICH IS THE, UH, COMMUNICATION SYSTEM FOR THE FRONT ROW PD.

UH, WE WERE REQUESTING THAT WAS AN UNBUDGETED ITEM THAT WE DECIDED DURING THE PANDEMIC TO, TO INVEST THE MONEY INTO THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, BECAUSE THE NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM WENT DOWN FOR MANY DAYS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SHERIFF AFTER THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING FOR THE COUNTY.

AND, UM, IT WAS EVERYONE AGREED THAT TO HAVE THAT REDUNDANCY IS NECESSARY AND VITAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAD TO REROUTE OUR CALLS TO RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY AND THE WRAP A HAND, WE HAD A SHERIFF DEPUTY DOWN AT, OR A DISPATCHER, A COUNTY DISPATCHER IN OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER.

AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS AN INTERESTING, UH, FOR THREE, FOUR OR FIVE DAYS.

UM, SO THAT'S, WE BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED.

THE SECOND ONE WAS THE, UH, STATE OF SYSTEM FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT WASTEWATER PLANT IN THE ELECTRIC PLANT, UM, THAT ALLOWS FOR REMOTE WORKING, UM, HOW THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS NOT REIMBURSABLE BJ.

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AND I STILL DON'T KNOW, BUT, UM, REGARDLESS WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE ADVICE OF THE, THE, UH, THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES WHO SAID THAT, UH, ANOTHER WAY TO GET REIMBURSED FOR CARE, ZACK FUNDS IS BY ALLOCATING MONEY FROM THE, OR ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT ON YOUR, UH, BJ.

WHAT'S THE EXACT WORDING.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT A MESS THAT UP, THAT LEO'S YES, POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS THAT ARE LEOS AND, UH, THE DISPATCHERS THAT DIRECTLY SUPPORT, UH, THE OFFICERS IS WHAT WE CAN CLAIM, UH, FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE CARES ACT.

SO, SO FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT, UM, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO ALLOCATE $1.2 MILLION BASED UPON THE POPULATION FORMULA, UH, TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

UM, LET'S ASSUME FOR A MOMENT THAT, UH, THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE SPENT $1.2 MILLION.

EXACTLY.

LET'S JUST MAKE IT EASY.

UM, DURING A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER BONE OF CONTENTION, BUT WE HAD TO SPEND IT DURING A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD.

UH, WE WOULD SUBMIT THOSE TIME SHEETS AND, UH, UH, BENEFIT RATES.

AND THEN THE AMOUNT, THE AMOUNT OF THE CHECK THAT WENT TO THE EMPLOYEE TO, UH, THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY WOULD DO THEIR REVIEW AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US $1.2 MILLION.

SO THE MONEY RIGHT NOW IS IN OUR, OUR GENERAL FUND.

UH, WE WOULD GET REIMBURSED AND WE'D HAVE $1.2 MILLION THAT IN ESSENCE, WE COULD GO AND PAY FOR THE SCADA SYSTEM.

WE CAN GO AND REIMBURSE.

BASICALLY WE PAID FOR THE PEACE APP.

WE COULD SET MONEY ASIDE AND SPRING OF NEXT YEAR TO DO, UH, OUR OWN ROUND OF BUSINESS RECOVERY MONEY.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO, OR YOU PUT IT TOWARDS PAVING, OR YOU COULD JUST KEEP IT IN YOUR RESERVE ACCOUNT, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS THE COUNCIL.

THE FLEXIBILITY THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

SO W WE'VE TAKEN THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY AND, UM, UH, WE'VE CONCEDED THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING AS FAR AS THE REVISED SPENDING PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU AND BJ, AND I FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO BRING IT, BRING IT TO YOU.

UM, AND THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR.

YES.

THEY'RE OFFICERS.

YES.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S A DISPUTE.

NO, THEY, THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT'S UP DISPUTE IS, UM, THEY WANT US TO START THE EXPENDITURES, THE SECOND PAY PERIOD IN JUNE TO JULY THE SECOND PAY PERIOD IN JULY OF THIS YEAR.

YES.

AND THEN IT GOES TO THE, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT TO THE FIRST PAY PERIOD OF DECEMBER, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT THE LAST PAY PERIOD.

DECEMBER PANDEMIC.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, IT'S JUST, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN REALLY TRY TO WORK WITH DANCERS THAT WERE ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS.

YEAH.

THE BENEFIT COMPONENT.

WE NEED TO DIAL INTO THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY.

UM, IF WE HAPPEN TO LOSE OFFICERS, IT'S GOING TO BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH.

OKAY.

WELL, WE COULD ALL REQUEST IT AND ALWAYS DO.

WE CAN ALWAYS DO, IF LET'S SAY IT COMES TO $1 MILLION, RIGHT.

WE COULD SAY, UM, WE CAN FIND $200,000 FOR BUSINESS RECOVERY PURPOSES.

AND SO WE COULD SPEND IT THAT WAY.

WHAT ABOUT HIRING A TOWN MANAGER DURING A PANDEMIC ALLEYS AND JUSTIFY THAT? I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING WHY JUNE AND NOT MARCH, APRIL, MAY.

THAT'S A BRILLIANT QUESTION.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT LOGICAL AND WHAT I'M HEARING.

YEAH.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC, THE GUIDANCE FROM THE U S TREASURY DOES ALLOW IT.

UM, BUT, UM, UH, THE, UH, COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS SPOKE WITH, UH, VML AND THEY RECOMMENDED AGAINST IT.

THEY FELT IT WAS SAFER.

YOU YOU'D BE THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT WHO WAS AMBIGUOUS ENOUGH THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT THAT WAY.

VML HAS TAKEN A MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR POINT TO START IT IN THE BUDGET CYCLE OF JULY ONE.

AND THE CARES ACT WAS GOING THROUGH, I GUESS, I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE INTERPRETING THE LANGUAGE AND NOT GOING BACK AND RETRO CORRECT BUDGET YEAR.

THE THING IS, THE POINT OF CONTENTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR NON BUDGETED ITEMS, UM, WHERE, HOW YOU CAN ARGUE THAT YEAR 20 WAS NOT BUDGETED THE, THAT OUR BUDGET WASN'T APPROVED UNTIL MAY.

SO, YES, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK THEN, TOO.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION CAME THROUGH VML, WHICH THE COUNTY EXCEPTED AND PASSED ALONG TO US.

YES.

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YEAH.

THERE'S A CERTAIN DATE AND IT'S NOT EARLIER THAN JUNE.

I DON'T THINK.

WELL, WE HAVE TO JUST HAVE TILL DECEMBER 30TH, I THINK THEY WANT TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN.

SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THE SPENDING PLAN TO THE FIRST PAY PERIOD ONLY IN DECEMBER BJ.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT'S GOING TO HIT THE $1.2 MILLION.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT DECEMBER? AND IF IT'S RUNNING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, WHY IS THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE TREASURY SAID THAT IS THE END DATE FOR THE TREASURY.

THEY SAID THE SAME DAY.

YEAH.

THERE'S AN ERROR THERE UNTIL MARCH 3RD INCURRED DURING THAT PERIOD MARCH 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER.

YEAH.

THAT IS THAT'S DIRECTLY FROM THE TREASURY GUIDANCE.

SO YOU SEE THE TREASURY GUIDANCE SAYS MARCH 1ST, BUT THERE'S, BML INTERPRETATION THAT THE MARCH 1ST REALLY MEANS JULY .

THIS HAS BEEN PROBABLY FOUR TIMES A WEEK.

ALRIGHT, AWESOME.

YOU GUYS, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS SPENDING PLAN? SO BJ WILL SUBMIT THIS TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM TONIGHT THAT REVIEW OF FYI 21 REVENUES AND CONTINUOUSLY THESE I'LL TURN THIS ONE OVER TO BJ.

YOU CAN TURN TO GO INTO DETAIL.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, SO JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS OUR MONTHLY KIND OF RECAP FOR WHERE OUR REVENUES STAND, UH, OVERALL REVENUES ARE GOING PRETTY WELL.

UM, THE, UH, SOME OF THE OVERAGES, UH, THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, ARE COVERING SOME OF THE DECREASES DECREASE IN REVENUES.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, SALES TAX, UH, WAS TRACKING ABOUT 14% ABOVE BUDGETED AMOUNTS.

UH, SO IT'S HELPING COM UH, UH, COVER SOME OF THE AREAS THAT, WHERE WE'RE SEEING A DEFICIT, UH, LODGING TAXES DOWN, UH, ROUGHLY 23% FADS AND FORFEITURES DOWN 35% RENTAL TAXES DOWN TO SET.

UM, BUT OVERALL, UH, GENERAL FUND IS DOING JUST FINE.

WE'RE UP 11, 11,000, RIGHT? BJ.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

IN SALES TAX, JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK A LOT OF IT IS, IS THAT, UM, I THINK THE MESSAGE IS GETTING OUT TO THE CITIZENS SHOP LOCAL, BUY LOCAL.

AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S WORKING, UH, STREETS.

WE GOT OUR QUARTERLY PAYMENTS IN THERE AND IT'S RIGHT ON TARGET.

UH, SO WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD ELECTRIC SALES, UH, THAT IS, UM, LET'S SEE HERE, UH, ROUGHLY 66% ABOVE BUDGET.

IT WAS LAST MONTH, ROUGHLY 14%.

IT'S JUST THE TIME OF THE YEAR IS WHAT THAT'S EQUATING TO.

IT'LL DECREASE HERE THROUGH, UM, OCTOBER AND A LITTLE BIT INTO NOVEMBER AS WELL, THEN IT'LL COME BACK UP.

UM, BUT, UH, IT'S RIGHT ON TARGET WITH PRIOR YEARS, UH, FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE.

SO ELECTRIC IS DOING PRETTY WELL, UH, WATER SALES, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S, UH, UP AGAIN, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE TIME OF THE YEAR, UH, WARMER, UH, BEING WARMER OUT, THAT'LL DECREASE AS WE GO THROUGH OUR WINTER MONTHS, UH, WHAT OUR CONNECTIONS THEY'RE DOING JUST FINE AS WELL.

GOING OVER TO THE SEWER SEWER SALES ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UH, BUT THAT IS ALSO NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR.

WE JUST ENDED OUR SUMMER SEWER PROGRAM, UH, ALLOW PEOPLE TO, UH, WHAT ARE THEIR LAWNS AND NOT PAY THE ADDITIONAL SEWER CHARGES.

SO THAT'S ENDING.

SO THAT'LL START REBOUNDING A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

UH, SEVERAL CONNECTIONS FALL, RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE WATER CONNECTIONS WHERE THEY'RE, UH, RUNNING A LITTLE ABOVE THERE, BUT THE OVERALL SEWERS DOING WELL, UH, SOLID WASTE, UM, LITTLE LOW, BUT NOTHING DETRIMENTAL.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE $2,000 BELOW THE BUDGET.

UM, UM, NOT ANYTHING TO BE TOO CONCERNED OVER, WENT DOWN TO THE DELINQUENT UTILITY ACCOUNTS THERE.

UH, SO THE NUMBER OF, UH, THE ONLY ONE UTILITY ACCOUNTS, UH, DID INCREASE, UH, 856 TO 936.

UM, THE, UM, UH, BUT, UH, OUR, UH, THE DOLLAR VALUE HAS GONE DOWN AND WE WENT FROM 513,000 DOWN TO 464,000.

SO THE DOLLAR FIGURE WE'RE AT PRE COVID NUMBERS, UM, THE NUMBER OF DELINQUENT UTILITY ACCOUNTS THERE, UH, ALTHOUGH IT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UM, IT'S NOTHING TO BE TOO CONCERNED OVER THE, UM, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, I'D SAY RIGHT AROUND A HUNDRED OF THOSE ARE LESS THAN $20 BILLS.

UH, SO IT'S VERY, UH, SMALL DOLLAR VALUES.

UH, SO I COME IN, MY STAFF ARE GETTING A DOLLAR VALUE DOWN THERE ON OUR UTILITY ACCOUNTS THAT WERE BEING PRE COVID.

UM, THE, UH, I GUESS, ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE REVENUES THERE BEFORE I CONTINUE? YEAH.

SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS, IS TO, UH, OVERTURN SOME OF THE FUNDS BACK FROM CONTINGENCY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING TO CONTINUE TO SEE BACK TO THE NORMAL LINE ITEMS. UH, BASICALLY THIS WOULD,

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UM, UH, RETURN ALL OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT, UH, UM, WE HAVE A NEED FOR, OR HAVEN'T ADDRESSED PREVIOUSLY, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MERIT INCREASES AND THE COMPENSATION STUDY.

UH, WHAT I'M FORESEEING IS THAT WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL EITHER NEXT MONTH OR, UH, FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER TO REQUEST TO HAVE THOSE RELEASED AND THEN IMPLEMENT THE, UH, UH, SOMETHING WITH THE MERIT AND THE COMPENSATION STUDY EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, BE GENTLEMEN THROUGH REAL QUICK, THE, UH, THE MERIT AND THE COMP STUDY PLAN WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT A JANUARY ONE IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO THAT IN JANUARY ONE.

UM, SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME W I WAS GOING TO GIVE IT ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO SEE HOW THE REVENUES LOOK MAYBE FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS, AND PROBABLY IN THE LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER 1ST MEETING IN DECEMBER, WE COULD APPROVE IT AND THEN GET THAT IMPLEMENTED JANUARY ONE, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO JUST ALLOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, WHEN DOES THAT, WHEN WOULD WE, IF WE HAD TO PUT IT IN THE CONTINGENCY, WHEN WOULD THAT HAVE NORMALLY GONE INTO EFFECT? UM, AND HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING IN TOTAL? UH, FOR THE COMPENSATION STUDY A HUNDRED, ANOTHER A HUNDRED AND SOME THOUSAND, IT WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT A HUNDRED HUNDRED THOUSAND.

UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T BRING THEM WITH ME HERE.

I'M NOT SURE.

I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AS A QUICK GLANCE.

UM, BUT WE'RE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, $600,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND IN THE STREET AND ELECTRICAL CHRONIC SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MORE MONEY.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A WAY TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN HOLD ON CONTINGENCY, BUT I'D BE MORE IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO REINSTATE THE COMPENSATION STUDY.

AND THE REASON WHY I SAY IT'S BECAUSE I WAS PRETTY COMMITTED TO THAT THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN WE STARTED DOWN THAT PATH AND THAT SKEPTICS OF THAT WAS A COUNCIL IS GOING TO TURN OVER AND KILL IT BEFORE IT EVER GOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S AT ALL THE SENTIMENT OF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT CAME ON BOARD, BUT I SURE AS HECK WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FOLLOW THROUGH ON, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS SOMETHING WE PROMISED THREE YEARS AGO.

AND IF IT WAS A WAY WE CAN GET IT IN PLACE, I WOULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF THAT SOONER, RATHER THAN LATER.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FROM OUR STANDPOINT AT THIS.

WHAT WERE YOU SUGGESTING? YOU SAID JANUARY THE MERIT AND THE COMP STUDY, IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT IT, WE COULD DO IT JANUARY ONE.

AND THAT GIVES, EXCUSE ME, THAT GIVES YOU NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TO KIND OF LOOK AT YOUR REVENUES AND MAKE SURE THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMICS IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT GOING INTO THE NEXT HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

I WAS JUST, WE WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT A JANUARY ONE ANYWAY, SO MIGHT AS WELL, INSTEAD OF APPROVING IT ALL AT ONE TIME, WE MIGHT AS WELL ALLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WELL, ORIGINALLY, I MEAN, WE WERE LOOKING A NUMBERS AS HIGH AS 20 TO 30% DEFICIT.

SO WE MOVED THAT WE COULD MOVE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, NAMELY BEFORE YOU ROLL INTO THE HOLIDAYS.

AND, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING THIS WHOLE ENTIRE TIME AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AS WELL.

AND IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN HOLD OFF, SO WE CAN MAKE THAT ONE COME TO FRUITION, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER SLOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT UNTIL THAT'S 124,000 IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS IN MY HEAD.

THAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE ALL I'M FOR IMPLEMENTING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE SEE WHAT OUR DEFICIT REALLY IS RIGHT NOW.

WHAT IS OUR TOTAL DEFICIT ACROSS THE BOARD? 3% NOW WAS NOT A DEFICIT.

WE DON'T HAVE A DEFICIT AT THIS NUMBER IS THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR TOO, OF GOING FORWARD WITH THE STUDY AND THE MERIT INCREASES BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC AND ADOPTING, ADAPTING TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST TIME TO DO IT JUST TO MOVE FORWARD.

I'LL BE IN FAVOR LEE AND JAY.

UH, WE, WE, UH, WE WORKED HARD TO SEE THAT THE FRUITION, BUT I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT DJ, OKAY.

I LOOK BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE, WE WERE GOING TO PUT ABOUT $4 MILLION INTO OUR STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, AND I KNOW THAT GOT DROPPED, UM, BECAUSE OF COVID.

UM, ARE WE AT A POSITION WHERE WE CAN POSSIBLY START LOOKING FOR FINANCING AGAIN FOR THAT MATT? WE ARE, UM, WE HAVE THE, UH, WE ARE, AND WE HAVE, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.

YEAH.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

CAST ONE MORE QUESTION ALONG, UH, AND MORE GENERALITIES, BUT I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVALUATING HER TAKE GRADES AS WELL.

UM, UH, NUMBER ONE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT OR DO WE THINK IT'D BE WORTH DISCUSSING, UM, AS WE FINISH UP PHASE

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THREE OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY, AND IF THERE'S, UM, THAT THE TIMING OF THAT WOULD BE, UM, WOULD COINCIDE WITH EVALUATING HER PAY GRADES AS WELL? YEAH, SO WE DID LOOK INTO THAT.

UM, THE QUOTES THAT WE RECEIVE TO JUST MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN THE LOWER RANGE OF THE PAY GRADES WAS $11,000 IN 90 DAYS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS EXCESSIVE ON BOTH ENDS.

IS THAT FOR THE COMPANY TO DO IT OR THE MATERIAL IMPACT FOR THE COMPANY, I WAS LIKE, THAT SEEMS LOW, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, UM, HR HAS ALREADY MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

UM, THEY'VE LOWERED THE BAR, THE BOTTOM THREE GRADES AND A COUPLE OF KEY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WERE HAVING MAJOR ISSUES.

AND, UM, AND APPARENTLY IT'S WORKED ALREADY, UH, WE HAVE TWO NEW HIRES THIS WEEK SINCE THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

UM, SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND JUST, JUST TO BE REALLY TRANSPARENT WITH MY POSITION.

I'D LOVE THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT AS COUNCIL STARTS TO CHANGE SO THAT, UM, SO THAT BALL IS ROLLING FORWARD AND CONTINUE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE PAY GRADES AND MERIT INCREASES AND THE COMPENSATION STUDY.

SO WE DON'T WANNA END UP WITH, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OF NO RAISES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, MAYBE WHAT ELSE? OKAY.

SEVEN IS THE REZONING APPLICATION.

MARY, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT BACK IN THE, UH, AMERIC AND THE COMP STUDIES AND ALL THESE ITEMS. NOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

I SAID, IF WE'RE, UM, IF WE'RE STILL CONCERNED AND WE WANT SOMETHING TO HOLD A CONTINGENCY, THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO THE AMOUNT OF THE MERIT INCREASES IN THE COMPENSATION SET IT CAN, CAN WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM MAYBE BJ, IF WE'RE ALL, IF WE'RE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT IT, ON HOW THE REVENUES ARE TRENDING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD.

GOOD ITEM SEVEN WAS RESOUNDING APPLICATIONAL FRONT ROW WARRANT.

GOT IT.

OH YES.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S PRETTY.

SELF-EXPLANATORY THE, UM, STAFF REPORT IS IN YOUR PACKET.

I HAVE MR. WILSON HERE WHO CAN MAYBE SAY A FEW WORDS JUST TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW, TIM, TURN OVER TO YOU.

IF YOU WANT ME TO GO TO A DIFFERENT SLIDE, IT'S PROBABLY JUST THE NEXT PAGE.

MATT WOULD BE GOOD.

YEAH.

IF IT'S A ZONING APPLICATION FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT , WE CAN SEE IT.

THERE IS A CENTER, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE HAPPY CREEK TECHNOLOGY PARK.

THOSE TWO PARCELS IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST ARE THE 60 TO ONE 70 ACRES THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO REZONE TO I TWO, WHICH WILL MATCH UP WELL WITH THE PARK.

THE, THE STATE OF PURPOSES IS I BUY THAT BY HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL ACREAGE, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THEM FROM A TIER ONE TO A TIER TWO, UH, WITH THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, WHERE THEIR VIRGINIA BUSINESS READY SITE PROGRAM AND THE EXPECTATION, IF THEY CAN MOVE UP IN THOSE TIERS, THEN HOPEFULLY THEY CAN HAVE MORE VISITATION, UH, OF THAT, OF THAT SITE.

UH, THIS SITE HERE, IT MATCHES UP WELL WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT MATCHES UP VERY WELL WITH THE EXISTING ZONING AND AS WELL AS THE EXISTING LAND USES THAT ARE THERE, PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HELD ITS PUBLIC HEARINGS BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THEY'D RECOMMEND THE, UH, THE ADOPTION OF THIS MAP AMENDMENT.

UH, THERE WERE ALSO, UH, PROPER ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FOR ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL, RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THOSE PROFFERS.

AND ALSO THERE WAS NO COMMON AS PUBLIC HEARING AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS AT ALL ON, ON THIS REZONING ABOUT THE MOST QUIETEST INDUSTRIAL REZONING I'VE EVER HAD.

THE PLEASURE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN I WANT TO LIE TO YOU SAID IS FOR ONE, WHAT IS THE, YOU SAID, MOVE UP.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AT, UH, AT MOVING AT, FROM AN R ONE FROM A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, TO REZONE IT.

SO, UH, IT'LL MATCH WITH THAT.

I TWO DISTRICT THAT IT'LL MATCH UP WITH THAT.

SO IT'LL, IT'LL CHANGE.

IT USES, UH, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL, THE THE I TWO JUST, UH, PROVIDES FOR SOME ADDITIONAL AND MORE INTENSE, UH, INDUSTRIAL USES AS OPPOSED TO THE IOWA.

BUT IT JUST, THE, THE, IT WAS GOOD BECAUSE IT DOES MATCH THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT

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THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY FARM, UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE PROPER PROP I STATEMENTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING BINDING.

THE TWO THAT, THAT WERE BINDING IS THAT THEY HAVE BUFFERED, UH, OR THEY, THEY ARE CRAWFORD FOR OFFERING OF THE SITE.

UM, ANY, UH, FUTURE OF RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND THEY HAVE ALSO OFFERED YOU HAVE PROGRESS DRIVE THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, SHOULD THE EAST-WEST EXTENSION, UH, EVER BECOME A REALITY.

UH, THEY HAVE PROPER THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY A CONTINUATION OF PROGRESS DRIVE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AND A VALUABLE PROBLEM.

NO FAST.

THE ONE PART, IT WAS, UM, PART OF THE PROPER STATEMENT ON THE BUY-RITE LAND USE.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, THE WAY I INTERPRET IS THAT IT WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED AND IT SHOWS THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD PREFER.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT IS JUST THAT A FLUFF WAY TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE NOT BOUND TO IT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT I FOUGHT.

IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY ENFORCEABLE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE STATING A PREFERENCE, BUT THAT PROFFER DOES NOT LIMIT THEIR USE TO THOSE TWO USES.

IF, IF REZONED TO I, TO, UH, THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, OR BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

AND THE, I DO THOSE FOR, SO IT'S A LOT, IT'S A NICE STATEMENT, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T BIND THEM.

RIGHT.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT NOT BE FLUFF.

I MEAN, I GUESS, CAUSE THEN IT WOULD, THEN IT WOULD NARROW US TO SAY WE, THEY COULD ONLY HAVE THOSE.

IS THAT THE IDEA? YES.

I'D SAY, UH, PROFFERS TO GET THE KEYWORD IS VOLUNTARY.

PROPERS MUST BE VOLUNTARY FROM THE APPLICANT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

COULD THAT BE ADVERTISED BEFORE THE 19TH OR IS THAT TOO SHORTER TIME? TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS.

I DON'T TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS.

AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT A MINIMUM DAYS AROUND THE SECOND.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, I THINK NOT HAVING TO WAIT THE FIVE NIGHTS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINK THAT FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

CAN WE CHECK IT OUT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NOVEMBER WHEREVER THE FIRST MEETING WOULD BE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, TIM.

OKAY.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR AGENDA AS FAR AS PUBLIC PART OF IT.

UH, NEXT ITEM ITEM EIGHT IS THE, WE NEED TO GO INTO CLOSE MEETINGS THAT I HEAR A MOTION.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL CONVENE AND GO INTO CLOSE ME THE RESPECT TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S POSITION FOR THE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT, ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, FOR, FOR SALARIES, FOR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER'S APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC BODY PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH THREE SEVEN ELEVEN.EIGHT.ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

CORRECT.

SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE, MOTION CARRIES.

AND TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.