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WE'RE A CALL TO ORDER THE FINDING COMMISSION REGULAR OR WORKING GROUP MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 2ND AT 6:00 PM HERE.AND COULD WE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COMMISSIONER NER? HERE.
HERE WE HAVE FORUM AND A COMPLETE QUORUM.
AND SO WE HAVE TWO THINGS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
ONE BEING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND ANOTHER WITH THE ORDINANCE OF ABOUT TALKING ABOUT CANNABIS.
SO WE'LL START WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTAL AS DEFINED BY TOWN CODE SECTION 1 7 5 DASH THREE, SUBMITTED BY TYLER REEVES AND LOCATED 35 NORTH MARSHALL STREET.
IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO ZERO A NINE DASH TWO DASH THREE DASH ONE.
THE PROPERTY IS, IS ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
AND MR. WARE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOMETHING SAFE.
UH, YEAH, I GOT A COUPLE FEW THINGS JUST TO KEEP YOU ABREAST WITH THE PROJECT IS, UH, IT IS FOR A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL.
YOU HAVE A, YOU WILL HAVE AN APPLICATION, UH, THERE IS A LOCATION OF IT ON THE CORNER.
I HAVE AN ALLEYWAY THERE ON THE SIDE.
SO FRONTS ON NORTH MARSHALL WITH AN ALLEY THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT IS FOR A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL, FOUR BEDROOMS WITH A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT PEOPLE.
UH, THAT'S THE LOCATION OF IT.
UH, WE DID TAKE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
IF YOU DRIVE BY AND LOOK AT IT, UH, WE DID PUT UP THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGN FOR YOU.
UH, THERE'S THE DRIVEWAY OR THE ALLEYWAY HERE AND THEIR DRIVEWAY.
SO THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, UH, FOR OFF STREET PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE USE.
UH, STAFF DID DO AN INSPECTION OF THE HOME THIS WEEK, AND IT PASSED EVERYTHING WITHIN THE, UH, MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
UH, NO RED FLAGS ON THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
UH, PLENTY OF PARKING AND IT DIDN'T PASS.
THE REQUIREMENTS KIND OF CUT AND DRY.
YOU MAY WANNA DRIVE BY AND LOOK AT IT ON YOUR TIME IF YOU HAVE.
BUT, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY, IT MEETS ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPLICATION.
COMPLETE APPLICATION, UH, SUBMITTED ONE TIME AND READY TO GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGNED HER UP.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS? DO WE EVER UPDATE THAT GRAPH? IT'S THE TABLE THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF HOUSES OR SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOUSES IT IS IN THE DOCUMENT TO BE PUBLISHED.
IF YOU'RE SAYING THE TABLE'S IN THERE.
BUT DO WE KEEP THAT UPDATED AT ALL? WELL, IT IN THAT TABLE, IT GOES BY THE PERCENTAGE.
SO IT'LL BE UP TO THE TOWN FOLK TO KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY RENTALS WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN TOWN IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT THAT 3% MEANS.
SO SINCE THAT'S A MOVIE NUMBER, PUTTING IN THE DOCUMENT WOULD BE MEANINGLESS.
AND WE'LL UPDATE THAT IN YOUR MONTHLY REPORT.
MONTHLY REPORT WILL SHOW SHORT TERM RENTALS OF THE PERCENTAGE OR JUST THE ACCOUNT? THE, THE NUMBER WE HAVE SO FAR, THE NUMBER 20 SOMETHING, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S ON THE REPORT, ISN'T IT? YEAH, IT'S ON THE REPORT.
YOU NEED TO KNOW TOTAL NUMBER OF RENTALS AND THE TOTAL, TOTAL NUMBER OF RENTALS AVAILABLE.
AND TOTAL NUMBER, UM, THAT ARE ACTUALLY BEING USED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS TO DO THAT.
OH, I, I, I WASN'T DOING THE PERCENTAGE.
I I'M SAYING WHEN THE NEW, UM, ORDINANCE IS ENACTED, WE'LL HAVE TO TRACK HOW MANY RENTALS WE ACTUALLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY.
BUT HOW DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE USING THEM OR NOT? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY, HAS TO KNOW HOW MANY, HOW MANY RENTALS IN EACH DISTRICT FOR, UM, THAT'RE BEING USED.
THE RENTAL BE THE HOUSE BEING AN R ONE DISTRICT.
HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE RENTALS WITHIN IN THERE RENTALS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS OR JUST RENTALS? RENTALS IN GENERAL.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW HOW MANY SHORT TERM RENTALS.
'CAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IN THE BALLPARK WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING.
WE DON'T, BUT PEOPLE DON'T SUBMIT A PERMIT TO RENT OUT THEIR HOUSE.
WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THAT.
WE WOULD JUST GO OFF OF LIKE, ESRI.
I MEAN, I DON'T, WE WOULD DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T TRACK RENTALS.
WELL THIS, WE DISCUSSED THIS A WHILE BACK, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A WAY TO TRACK IT BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT ROUGHLY HOW MANY RENTALS WE HAD, SO, OKAY.
THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.
COULD WE BRING UP THE, UM, CHARTS IF YOU COULD, COULD PLEASE? MM-HMM
I SENT YOU AN EMAIL, OR I FORWARDED YOU AN EMAIL TO JOHN HAD FORWARDED ME, UH, IN TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, FROM ERNST, ERNST AND YOUNG, RIGHT? IS THAT THE SAN ANDERSON SANDS ANDERSON EXCUSE POWERPOINT YOU WANT? CORRECT? YES, PLEASE.
UH, SANDS ANDERSON, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING A BRIEFING ON CANNABIS.
UH, AND IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, IT'S 11 O'CLOCK ON TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO ENROLL IN IT TO JOIN.
BUT IF YOU DO, USE YOUR OFFICIAL ACCOUNT EMAIL AND YOUR TITLE, BECAUSE IT THIS FOR, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GEARED FOR.
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YOU.AND IF I DO THAT, IT GOES BACK.
WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? LET'S JUMP INTO, THIS IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST THING TO DO.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANNABIS AND MARIJUANA? NO, NOTHING.
NOTHING MARIJUANA'S A TYPE OF CANNABIS USE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED THE RETAIL CANNABIS FRAMEWORK.
THIS HAS BEEN THE WORKS FOR YEARS.
UH, AND IT WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR WHEN SHE CAME IN, IT WAS ORIGINALLY VETOED, AND THEN THEY CAME TO COMPROMISE AND THEY STUCK.
THEY STUCK IT IN AS PART OF THE BUDGET BILL WITH A FINAL COMPROMISE IN JUNE.
AND IT MENTIONS THE RETAIL SALES OF THE CAN OF CANNABIS WILL START IN JULY 1ST WITH LICENSE APPLICATIONS BEGINNING IN FEBRUARY, 2027.
UM, ALSO STARTING, IT'S NOT ON HERE THIS MONTH.
THE FIRST SET OF GUIDELINES IS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT BY THE CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD.
AND IN FACT, LAUREN GOT THE FIRST PHONE CALL TODAY, UH, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING RELATIONSHIPS, AS I RECALL.
SO HERE COMES, UH, THE LAW WAS SET UP, SO WE CANNOT OPT OUT OF THIS, UH, ONE VERSION OF IT.
THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A REFERENDUM WHERE A TOWN COULD VOTE IF THEY WANTED TO, UM, GET OUT OR NOT.
IF WE DO NO REGULATIONS, IT'S JUST ANOTHER RETAIL BUSINESS.
AND THEY CALLED IT DRY COUNTY PATCHWORK ENFORCEMENT PROBLEMS AND SAYING IT WOULD CAUSE A LEGAL MARK.
WE'LL GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE TOO FAR.
SO WE BASICALLY HAVE NO LEGAL ABILITY TO SAY NO.
OUR JOB NOW IS TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS ON OUR TERMS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, AND PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS THE BUSINESSES.
UH, NEXT ONE, WE STILL MAINTAIN FULL ZONING, UH, FROM A LAND USE POINT OF VIEW AND THE BUFFER AUTHORITY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OUR LEVER THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, WITH A FEW OTHER CAVEATS IN THERE.
WE CAN'T BAN IT, BUT WE CAN SHAPE WHERE, UM, HOW AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS IT OPERATES.
AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE STATE LAWS, WHICH, WHICH THERE'S QUITE A FEW ABOVE TO GO ALONG WITH THE CONTROLLING, WE CAN ALSO TAX IT UP TO THREE POINT HALF PERCENT, BETWEEN ONE AND 3.5%.
WE HAVE, IF THERE IS A CANNABIS SHOP IN TOWN, WE HAVE TO TAX IT AT LEAST 1%.
AND THAT MUST BE IN PLACE BEFORE ANY CANNABIS SHOP OPENS.
UH, NOW THERE'S SOME, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF IT'S IN TOWN, WE GET THE TAXES IN THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY GETS THE FACTS RIGHT.
AND, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ARGUING THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT TO BE, WE'LL EVALUATE WHAT IMPACT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE LEVERS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
EVEN THOUGH, UM, AS I'LL GET IN LATER ON OF WHAT WE, CERTAIN THINGS HAVE PROHIBITIONS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF LIKE A SCHOOL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE, UM, OTHER THINGS ARE UNCOVERED, BUT WE CAN'T TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT HAS SOME EXTRAORDINARY IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY.
SUCH AS, AS YOU'RE BUILDING THE CANNABIS SHOP RIGHT NEXT TO A REHAB FACILITY, PROBABLY A BAD IDEA.
ALTHOUGH THAT ISN'T CALLED OUT IN THE, IN THE, THE LEGISLATION.
WE COULD MAINTAIN THAT AUTHORITY REASONABLY TO DO THAT.
UH, THE THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER IS SOMETHING WE CAN'T GO MORE THAN THAT, BUT WE CAN GO LESS THAN THAT IS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE LEVEL OF USING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I WANT TO SAY.
UH, GIVEN THE COMMONWEALTH MANDATE, UM, THIS IS PRIMARILY A LAND USE PLANNING ISSUE WITH ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS SINCE THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE 350 OF THESE STORES IN THE WHOLE STATE.
AND THERE, AND I MENTIONED BEFORE, ONE OTHER ME HAD, THERE'S 402 A B, C STORES AS A COMPARISON.
SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT MAYBE ONE OR TWO STORES.
TOWN, COUNTY AT THE MOST IN ALL PROBABILITY.
SO THESE, THESE CENTER, THEY'RE GONNA BECOME ALMOST REGIONAL CENTERS.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING QUITE A BIT OF INCOME, IF YOU, IF YOU TURN OVER $2 MILLION A YEAR, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.
OKAY? BUT WE DON'T DECIDE ON THE, ON THE FINANCES OR THE PERCENTAGES.
THAT'S JUST BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE TOWN MANAGER WILL DO.
TOWN MANAGER AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY WILL BE WORKING ON.
AND THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT.
OKAY? SO I'M THINKING CAKE RIGHT NOW.
OKAY? UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, FOR THE PUBLIC END, FOR OURSELVES, THIS ISN'T A WELCOME CANNABIS ORBIT, UH, ORDINANCE.
THIS HAS BEEN MANDATED BY THE STATE.
SO EITHER REACT OR IT'LL RUN INTO LIKE THE VAPE SHOPS WERE, AND THEY'LL PUT 'EM WHEREVER
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A RETAIL BUSINESS IS ALLOWED WITH ONLY THE STATE REGULATIONS TO WORK.UH, LET'S SEE THE ORDINANCE, WHEN WE GET INTO IT, WE CAN WIND AT THE CANNABIS TO SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
I MENTIONED INDUSTRIAL ZONES TOO.
'CAUSE YOU THINK, WELL, WHAT'S THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SALES? THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MIXED INTO THIS.
ORDINANCE HAS TO, LIKE MICRO BUSINESSES AND, UM, UM, GROWING THE CANNABIS FUSING CANNABIS PRODUCTS AND STUFF.
THESE ARE ALL POSSIBLE BUSINESSES.
SO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE TOO, IN THE REGULATION.
UH, AND IF A BUSINESS, JUST TO MENTION THIS, IF A BUSINESS IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND IT CAN ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, UM, A LITTLE RETAIL SALES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WELL, THAT COUNTS AS ONE OF THE 350 IF THEY DO THAT.
AND, UM, THEY DO THAT A LOT WHEN YOU GET INTO, UM, DIFFERENT, UH, TYPES LIKE A FURNITURE STORE.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE MANUFACTURED FURNITURE, BUT THEY HAVE A LITTLE SHOWROOM ON THE SIDE.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PERCENTAGE SPECIFIED TO COVER THAT.
UH, LET'S SEE, BY FEBRUARY 1ST, 2027, THEY'RE GONNA BEGIN TO SELL LICENSES, OR THEY CAN BEGIN, PEOPLE CAN APPLY TO THE STATE FOR THEIR LICENSE.
AT THAT TIME, WE WILL WANT TO HAVE OUR ORDINANCES IN PLACE.
OKAY? POSSIBLE ENHANCED OPERATION REQUIREMENTS.
WE CAN DO, UM, SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THERE'S STANDARD THINGS.
THE CARTOONS, UH, YOUTH ORIENTED.
IT'S ALREADY A STATE REQUIREMENT, BUT WE COULD TAKE IT A LITTLE FARTHER LOCALLY.
THERE AGAIN, THERE ARE, IF, IF FOR RETAIL STORE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
BUT FOR THE MANUFACTURING, MOTOR ODOR COULD POSSIBLY BE A PROBLEM.
SO WE COULD, UM, REGULATE THAT AS WELL.
COULD THEY BE MANUFACTURING WITHOUT SELLING? YES.
AND THAT WOULDN'T BE COUNTED AS ONE.
THAT WOULD NOT BE COUNTED AS ONE.
NOW THIS IS, THIS IS OPENING UP NOT JUST RETAIL, WHEN YOU READ THE WHOLE THING.
THIS IS ALLOWING THE INDUSTRY ITSELF.
AND SO IT, UM, WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE A, AN APPLICATION FOR SOMEONE MORE TO COME AND DO, UM, ANYTHING FROM DOING FUSING PRODUCTS TO MAKE, UM, UH, CHOP, UH, POT, POT GUMMIES, UH, TO, TO HEMP BELTS FOR ALL WE KNOW.
AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
NOW, THE STATE HAS A, HAS A WHOLE NETWORK OF RULES AROUND THIS AND SMELL BEING ONE OF THEM THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
BUT, UH, WE CAN'T CIRCUMVENT THAT.
UH, SECURITY LIGHTING AND STANDARDS, UH, COMPATIBILITY ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR LEVERS FOR WHY WANT TO USE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT INSTEAD OF BY A RIGHT.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, SINCE THE STATE SAYS WE CAN'T PROHIBIT IT, WE CAN'T DO A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SOMEONE SIT UP THERE AND SAY, I DON'T LIKE THEM.
SO WE CAN'T HAVE THEM OR BE SO ONEROUS THAT IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE, UH, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IF NEEDED.
I, I DON'T, DON'T SEE THAT, UH, BELIEVE OR NOT PART OF THE LAW ALLOWS FOR HOME DELIVERY OF CANNABIS PRODUCTS.
SO THERE POTENTIALLY IN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REGULATED.
OKAY, NOW JUST STEPPING BACK A LITTLE BIT, UM, IF, IF WE LOOK AT IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, UH, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS FOR BOTH, UM, OUR TOWN AND COUNTY AND HOW THEN THERE, THERE ARE, THERE IS A, UM, CANNABIS FARMER IN THIS COUNTY.
AND AT LEAST ONE, I THINK TWO, UH, NOW THE NEW LAWS ARE GOING TO AFFECT THEM SOMEWHAT ADVERSELY, BUT THEY MAY ADAPT TO THE NEW ONE.
AND THEY'LL BE, THIS CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD WILL CONTROL THE LICENSES FOR GROWERS AS WELL.
SO WE CAN EXPECT SOME OF THIS GO ON.
SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
YOU SAY, WELL, THESE ARE FARMERS.
IT'S, UM, UH, IF WE KEEP ALL OF IT TOGETHER IN THE COUNTY, WE COULD HAVE RETAIL, WE COULD HAVE MANUFACTURER, WE COULD HAVE GROWERS AND ALL THE WHOLE THING.
AND TAKE IT IN THAT LIGHT OR FIGHT IT THE WHOLE WAY.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
SO, UH, SINCE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO RESTRICT IN ANY WAY, ANY, A CORN FARMER WOULD HAVE A GROWING, UM, POT OR HYDROPONICS OR TINTED GROWING OR A HIGH, UM, HYBRID GROWING THAT WE WOULD FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN CONSIDERATION.
SO I JUST HAD THESE OTHER THINGS.
UH, YOU, YOU COULD TAKE IT IN THE MOST OPTIMISTIC, YOU GO TO KENTUCKY OR THEY HAVE THE MEDICAL CANNABIS THERE, BUT I'LL TAKE COLORADO OR SOME OF THE OTHER OTHER STATES, YOU CAN GO TO TOWN, THE WHOLE TOWN THAT THAT'S THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GO EVERY, EVERY STORE THEY HAVE THEIR, THEIR SECTIONS.
YOU CAN GO GET YOUR, LET'S SAY YOUR, YOUR HEMP BELT DRAWN
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BY, PICK UP YOUR GUMMIES, BY THE, THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS SURROUNDED AROUND THEM.I, I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO GO THERE.
AND I, BUT, AND THAT'S WHY I WANT, AGAIN, KEEP IT CONTROLLED WITH SPECIAL USE PERMIT
QUICK QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ENCOURAGE LOCAL BUSINESS PARTICIPATION? IF, IF WE TAKE IT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW THAT, UM, IT'S ALL LEGAL AND, AND WE WANT TO, IF WE'RE, PRETEND THEY WERE A CORN FARMER MM-HMM
OR, OR THE, A MANUFACTURER, NOW WE HAVE JOBS, THEY PRODUCE INCOME AND TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER.
THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YOU CAN FIND WITH THE NEW STATE LAW, THE TOWN CAN BENEFIT THAT.
THE STATE LAW REQUIRES RETAIL CANNABIS.
THE TOWN CANNOT PROHIBIT LICENSED RETAILERS.
WE SHOULD EXERCISE EVERY ZONING AUTHORITY, PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOLS, COMMUNICATE CHARACTER AND SO ON.
PROVIDE FAIR OPPORTUNITIES FOR FARMERS AND BUSINESSES.
IF IT'S LEGAL, WHY WOULD WE TRY TO EXCLUDE THEM, IS THE ONE.
BUT THESE ARE PART OF THE, I'M THROWING THIS OUT THERE FOR OUR DISCUSSION.
UH, KEEP JOBS, INVESTMENT TAX REVENUE IN WARREN COUNTY AND FRONT ROW.
IF, IF YOU TAKE IT AS AN INDUSTRY, IF YOU'RE GONNA SELL IT HERE, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A, I CAN IN ONE OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, SUPPOSE THEY HAVE A TENTED SPECIALTY GROWING AREA WHERE THEY THEN FUSE THE PRODUCT AND HAVE A SMALL RETAIL AREA ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT'S A POTENTIAL USE THAT COULD COME UP.
NOW CAN WE GET TO THE ORDINANCE OF ITSELF? CONNIE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
THEY CAN'T ALLOW CHILDREN, LIKE UNDER 21.
UM, TO THAT NOTE AS WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO THE INVOLVEMENT OF CHILDREN, UM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PROHIBIT THEM FROM PARTICIPATING IN OR SPONSORING TOWN EVENTS? ALL OF OUR TOWN EVENTS ARE FAMILY ORIENTED, CHILD ORIENTED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LINE I, WE FIND OUT.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE, I THINK IT COULD SEE THAT BEING A QUESTION.
I MEAN, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT AWAY FROM SCHOOLS, BUT THEN WHEN THEY GO TO THE FESTIVAL LEADS, THERE'S A 10 THERE LEADS.
UM, AND THEY WILL, OH, I GUESS I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEANT BY SPONSOR.
UH, WELL, I MEAN, THERE ARE EVENTS WHERE IT'S SO, SO SPONSORED THIS, YOU KNOW, I JUST MEANT MONETARILY SPONSOR THINGS, UH, WHERE THEY THEN GET THEIR NAME ON A BILLBOARD.
UM, BUT ALSO NOT HAVING, HOW DID THEY SET UP A TENT ON MAIN STREET DURING THE FESTIVAL LEAVE? IS THE TOWN THEN PROMOTING THEIR CANNABIS BUSINESS? I MEAN, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE PERMITTING CERTAIN VENDORS.
RIGHT? SO WHAT, WHAT ARE THE LAWS RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS ALCOHOL GOES FOR THAT SORT OF THING? LICENSE TO DISTRIBUTE? YEAH.
BECAUSE THE ROTARY CLUB GETS THE LICENSE WHEN THEY DO THE DANCING DOWNTOWN AND THEY SERVE BEER OUT THE TRAILER.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A BC LICENSE.
IT MAY BE FALL INTO THAT CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD AUTHORITY THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLISHING THEIR RULES THIS YEAR.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT.
THE LAWYERS, WHEN YOU DO THAT ONLINE CLASS.
SO THE WAY THINKING WAS FOR US WHEN THIS CAME TO LIGHT THAT, I KNOW I KIND OF, I WANT SAY RUSHED THIS TO GET THIS TO YOU THIS EVENING, IS LIKE I KNEW THE AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION WAS GOING TO BE LIKE, WE ONLY HAD ONE APPLICATION FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA MEET HERE FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL DURING THE WORK SESSION.
I ASKED ALAN TO TRY TO GET THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE THE IMPLICATION OF THE FEBRUARY 1ST DEADLINE, UH, OUR THOUGHT WAS LET'S GET THIS, UH, TO TOWN COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE FEBRUARY 1ST DEADLINE.
UH, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA TAKE SOME WORK TO GET THIS THROUGH.
THE 16TH, THAT'S THE SECOND TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, I GUESS IT IS.
UH, WE DID, I DID GET A NOTICE, I THINK THE SAME DAY WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT VASO IS, IS SPONSORING, THAT'S THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF ZONING OFFICIALS IS SPONSORING A WEBINAR, UH, FROM UH, BEZOS ATTORNEY SAN ANDERSON CORPORATION.
THEY'RE DOING A ONE HOUR WEBINAR.
IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, WE CAN SEND YOU THE LINK.
I'M NOT SAYING I CAN'T SEND IT TO 'EM ALREADY.
YOU HAVE TO, UH, USE YOUR TAN COUNTY EMAIL, PUT YOUR POSITION IN THERE, AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT ACCEPT YOU TO GET TO THE WEBINAR.
THAT IS THE WEDNESDAY THAT WE HAVE OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING.
SO I THINK BEFOREHAND YOU CAN,
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WE CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO IT OR THEY'LL, YOU CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS DURING THE WEBINAR.THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE SENDING QUESTIONS IN WITH ABOUT THAT.
SO JUST TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE, WE'RE DISCUSSING IT THIS EVENING.
UH, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
MY THOUGHT IS AT THE WEDNESDAY MEETING HERE IN TWO WEEKS AT A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING, WE ONLY HAVE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THAT'LL BE AT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER.
THEN WE COULD DISCUSS, UH, ADJOURN THAT AND DO A WORK SESSION IF YOU'D LIKE, GIVEN AN UPDATE ON THIS SINCE WE HAD THE MEETING THAT MORNING BEFORE.
AND ALSO GIVE YOU A CHANCE AFTER WE JUST HAD THIS INTRODUCTION WE'RE GOING THROUGH, LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF AND COME BACK WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
YEAH, YOU COULD, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE WHAT WE GOT TOGETHER NOW, LOOK IT OVER, HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE THE WEBINAR ON THE 16TH, UH, THROUGH SANS ANDERSON.
THEN WE HAVE OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING THAT EVENING FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT THAT DAY.
'CAUSE NOW YOU'RE WATCHING THE WEBINAR, REFRESHING YOUR MEMORY.
WE CAN GO OVER IT AND DISCUSS IT AGAIN ON THE 16TH, UH, TO SEE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WITH THAT.
BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY'S GONNA BE HERE.
SO TOWN COUNCIL WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ASK TOWN COUNCIL HAVE NO LATER TO VOTE ON IT THAN JANUARY.
SO THEY HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.
I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD WANNA LEASE ONE READING, MAYBE TWO READINGS, PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, ONE IN DECEMBER, ONE IN JANUARY.
SO IT ONLY GIVES US OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER TO DO THE HOMEWORK ON THIS, GET THIS READY AND GET IT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MY MIND IS NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER.
'CAUSE WE HAD PRESENTED TO TOWN COUNCIL IN DECEMBER.
THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE A READING IN DECEMBER IN ANOTHER ONE IN JANUARY TO PASS IT.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE PRIOR TO THE FEBRUARY APPLICATION.
THAT'S WHEN COMPANIES CAN SUBMIT TO THE STATE FOR AN APPLICATION TO THEM, BUT WILL NOT BE PERMITTED UNTIL JANUARY OR UH, JULY.
IS IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE THE IN ZONING ARY.
WELL, WHAT WE'RE MY DIRECTIVE IS TASK THAT IT BE PART OF THE, SO THE, SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING GET IT, GET IT TO HIM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, AS A PART OF THE DOCUMENT.
SO WHAT I'M, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UNLESS IT'S SIMPLY NOT READY, RIGHT.
OH, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT PART OF THE, IT'S BEEN MONTHS IN THE MAKING REPEAL AND ADOPTION.
SO IF WE CAN DO OUR HOMEWORK, THIS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
SO I'M HOPING TO HAVE ALL THE COMMENTS DONE FROM THE REGULAR ZONING ORDINANCE THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, BUT WE COULD DISCUSS THAT, UM, IN OCTOBER, UH, WITH ANY CHANGES.
SO WE WOULD INCORPORATE THIS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE ITSELF.
SO ALL THIS GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL AT ONE TIME.
SO, QUESTION WITH THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS ON A TIMELINE AND IT IS A PRETTY DANG QUICK TIMELINE.
UH, IF WE ARE PUTTING THIS TWO TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE REST OF THE ZONING, DOESN'T THAT PUT AN UNDUE PRESSURE ON THEM TO GET THAT ALL THAT PASSED WITHOUT REASONABLE TIME TO REVIEW IT? I MEAN, IT TOOK, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORK THAT WE WERE DOING, BUT IT TOOK US BASICALLY A YEAR TO GO THROUGH IT.
I WOULD FULLY UNDERSTAND IF IT TOOK THEM THREE, FOUR MONTHS AT LEAST TO GO THROUGH THE, THE ORDINANCE.
UH, SO I MEAN, I GUESS A BETTER WAY TO PUT THIS WOULD BE, COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REASONING IS FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER? UH, JUST TO AVOID, UH, ADDITIONAL PIECEMEALING WHEN THE, THE, THE TASK IS TO DO THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE.
SO IF POSSIBLE TO INCORPORATE IT INTO THE, THE REPEAL AND THE ADOPTION.
IT'S ONE HITS TOWN COUNCIL AND THEN IT TAKES THEM.
WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, I MEAN, I THINK EVERYONE'S ASSUMING THAT COUNCIL'S NOT JUST GONNA PASS IT BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS FANTASTIC.
RIGHT? LIKE THEY'RE GONNA WELL EXPLAIN.
DOES THAT HAPPEN? RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR TIME.
BUT STILL, YOU AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A STAFF, WE HAVE TO TACKLE THE ISSUE AT HAND.
DO OUR RESEARCH, GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER, AND YOU DO A RECOMMENDATION TO THEM WITH THE AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE, AND THEY'RE THE GOVERNING BODY.
THEY CAN DECIDE HOW THEY WANNA PURSUE AFTER THAT.
IN, IN TRUTH, IT COULD BE PULLED BACK OUT IN, WITHIN 45 DAYS PROCESSED IF WE HAVE TO.
THEY COULD TAKE IT OUT, SEND IT
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BACK, OR YEAH, THEY COULD.WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INSTRUCTIONS.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE TOGETHER FOR ONE PACKET.
WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO APPROVE PART OF IT THAT ONE TIME AND THE REST OF IT AT ANOTHER TIME? BE PART OF THE WHOLE DOCUMENT? THEY'D BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DOCUMENT MINUS WHATEVER THEY COULD.
AND IF THEY EVER GOT INTO A TIME CRUNCH, REMEMBER THERE'S ALWAYS JOINT MEETINGS AND THERE'S WAYS TO MAKE THINGS GO FASTER THAN DONE IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, THAT'S OUR GOAL PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 1ST.
I'M, WHETHER THAT IS, WHETHER THAT'S THEIR GOAL.
AND I JUST, I, I WOULD HATE TO ARREST TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AND THEN WE HAVE APPLICATIONS AND WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE BOOKS.
AND THEN IT'S JUST BY RIGHT REASON.
AND SO IT'S ALSO CLUMSY TO, IF YOU READ THE WORDING ON IT, WHICH IS, UM, FOR SOMEONE TO START THE APPLICATION PROCESS, ASSUMING THAT APPRAISAL REFER IT WAS, AND SOMEONE, THERE HAS TO BE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH THE RETAILER MM-HMM
AND BEFORE THEY CAN GET THE LICENSE APPLIED.
SO WHAT? BUT, BUT, BUT THEN THERE'S A CHICKEN AND EGG TYPE THING THAT THAT GOES ON THERE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENED IN, UM, IN OTHER LOCALITIES IS YOUR VAPE SHOPS, YOUR TOBACCO SHOPS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT RELATIONSHIP WOULD ALREADY EXIST IS, YOU KNOW, THE SPOT THAT I PASS EVERY DAY ON THE WAY HOME WOULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
YES, WE HAVE THIS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP NOW YOU SHOULD LET US SELL THIS OTHER STUFF AS WELL.
THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BEEN MONTHS IN THE MAKING.
AND THAT CANNABIS BOARD DOES NOT REGULATE THE VAPE SHOPS.
THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES.
UH, IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT A CANNABIS SHOP COULD BE IN A VAPE SHOP.
IT'S A SEPARATE LICENSE, SEPARATE REQUIREMENTS, SEPARATE VIDEO CAMERAS TO BE SEPARATE.
PARDON? IF WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH ONE OF THEM IN TOWN, UM, OR THE STATE HAS CALLED SAYING THAT THEY FIND HIM, WHATEVER.
I, I THINK THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME BODY THAT WOULD THEN DECIDE WHETHER NO HAS NO, NO, NO.
WELL, AND YOU, YOU GET INTO THE LAW TOO.
A LOT OF THE
THE RULES HAVE CHANGED FOR THAT SUBSTANTIALLY.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE CRACKED DOWN ON ABOUT HOW MUCH THC CAN BE INVOLVED IN CRETON.
AND THAT'S A AND THAT'S PART OF THE RIGHT, THAT'LL BE PD, RIGHT? YES.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT THAT GO AWAY IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND, AND THE WAY THEY DID THE RULES TO IT, THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S HURTING THE LOCAL CANNABIS GROWERS IS 'CAUSE THEY LUMPED THEM TOGETHER WITH THE CRATE ON AND, AND WHEN THEY DID THE RULES.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A SOMETHING THEY'RE FIGHTING IN LEGISLATURE NOW THAT MAY COME OUT WITH FISH CHANGE.
YOU CAN DRIVE YOURSELF NUTS WHERE YOU, ALL THIS STUFF
SO, UM, UM, SO I'D LIKE TO KIND OF STEP THROUGH PART OF THE ORDINANCE HERE IF, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS.
JUST THE FIRST PART OF THIS, KIND OF THE MOTHERHOOD THAT GOES ON WITH WHAT THE REGULATION IS TRYING TO DO.
AND, UM, UH, SO I WON'T, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND REALLY TIME ON THAT.
UH, IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, THE REST IS A SET OF DEFINITIONS OF EVERYTHING I COULD FIND THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, A DEFINITION TO COVER NOW THAT DEALS WITH CANNABIS AND INCLUDING THE H HUBS AND HOME DELIVERY.
UH, SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, PLEASE AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES.
RESEARCH, I'LL PUT, I'D LIKE TO SKIP OVER THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT'S APPLICABILITY.
SO CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? SURE.
UM, JUST THIS CONCEPT OF INTOXICATING HE PRODUCTS.
UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT? INTOXICATED.
UM, SO SOME OF THE OINTMENTS AND STUFF IT, IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT TO BE INTOXICATING, ARE THOSE LEGAL NOW? MM-HMM
YOU CAN GET CCB D AND A VARIETY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW THOUGH, DOG.
THE NEW LAW IS CUTTING THE AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOWED TO BE IN THOSE PRODUCTS.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT FARMERS, SO LOCAL FARMERS ARE HAVING ABOUT THAT CUTTING THE AMOUNT OF THC AVAILABLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, 3% OR 4%, WHATEVER IT IS NOW, SOMEWHAT LESS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
UH, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF DEFINITION AROUND THAT, AROUND INTOXICATED.
OH, UH, VERSUS NON INTO, I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, WELL, THERE'S LOW THC HEMP, SO TCS A T THE THC ELEMENT IS THE INTOXICATING ELEMENT.
IT'D BE LIKE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE ALCOHOL CONTENT, IF IT'S BELOW, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, THEN IT'S NOT CONSIDERED X, IT'S CONSIDERED Y.
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THC, IF IT'S IN THERE, YOU KNOW, AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEN THE PRODUCT IS DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU HIGH.SO IT, IT ACTUALLY HAS A DEFINITION IN HERE ON THAT FOR LOW THC HEMP.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S COVERING I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, NO, THE NEXT ONE IS THE DEFINITION OF INTOXICATING HE PRODUCTS.
WELL, IT, IT, IT SEPARATES OUT WHAT'S NOT INTOXICATING.
THAT, THAT'S THE THING THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
I JUST MISSED IT FOR SOME REASON.
THE FIRST TIME YOU SEE, PROBABLY I'M BEEN LOOKING AT THIS, SO NO, IT ACTUALLY ISN'T.
OH, IT'S, ISN'T THAT SCARY,
WHICH TIME, FIRST TIME THIS WEEK OR? WELL, YEAH.
OR, OR DO MORE THAN JUST SKIMMING OVER IT QUICKLY.
IF YOU PLEASE TAKE A, TAKE A PER THROUGH THE DEFINITIONS AND AS YOU GET THE TEXT AND SEE IF I'VE MISSED ANYTHING MM-HMM
I DO WANT TO GO TO WHERE IT SAYS APPLICABILITY AND, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE CAN CANNABIS RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.
THESE ARE THE TYPE OF RULES WE'RE TRYING TO SET.
NOW, SOME OF THIS IS MOTHERHOOD, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE, UM, UH, UNDER THE CANNABIS CONTROL AUTHORITY OF COURSE.
AND IT HAS TO BE BY SUP AND FOR ALL CANNABIS BUSINESSES TO KEEP THAT LEVER.
UH, WE HAVE CANNABIS PROCESSOR.
MICRO BUSINESS CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT THE LICENSES.
AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T DRAFT OUT ALL THE THINGS, THE LICENSE 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE STATE'S PROBLEM.
ZONING DISTRICTS ON 9 14 4 THEY HAVE IN THERE.
SO LEAVING OUT DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS IN THERE.
UH, AND PART OF THE REASON, UH, JUST A JUDGMENT THAT PROBABLY DON'T SEE IT AS APPROPRIATE ON MAIN STREET, THAT IT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
AND ALSO IT CAN'T BE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE SCHOOL, IS THE GENERAL.
NUMBER TWO IS ONE OF THE RETAIL.
THE REASON I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR THE POSSIBLE GROWING AND MANUFACTURING.
DO WE HAVE, UH, EASY ACCESS TO A ZONING MAP? BECAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET EXACTLY WHERE SOME OF THESE ARE.
I DON'T, I KNOW C TWO OF COURSE IS DOWNTOWN AND I CAN SAY C TWO AND THEN THE C ONE IS MOSTLY SOUTH STREET COMMERCE OR PORTION OF COMMERCE THERE.
UM, AND THEN C3 IS PAST THE BRIDGES UP ALONG LIKE THE CLIFFS THERE.
AND THEN MCDONALD'S, THE HAMPTON INN, AND THEN THAT GYM AND THAT'S IT.
AND THEN THAT, WAS THAT A SHELL GAS STATION? YEAH.
THAT'S NOT THE SHELL ACROSS FROM THE WELLS FARGO? NO.
THE SHELL ACROSS FROM THIS, UH, IT'S NOW, UM, THE SHELTER.
IS IT AN ANIMAL SHELTER? RIGHT AFTER THE BRIDGE IS ON THE LEFT GOING TOWARDS WALMART.
AND, AND PART OF THIS, AS FAR AS THE C UH, SOMETHING IS, TRY NOT TO RESTRICT IT ANY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN YOU WOULD A LIQUOR STORE BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S ILLEGAL ADVICE.
HOW LONG NEW DOES IT LOOK? I'M SORRY.
HOW LONG AFTER ELECTIONS DOES THE NEW COUNCIL GET TO WORK? JANUARY 1ST? AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT 'EM.
LAUREN, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT? THE MAP? THERE'S A GIS, UH, GO TO IS TAKE SO LONG GETTING THIS.
SO, I MEAN, I KNOW NOT TRYING TO PUSH THIS QUICKLY.
MY THOUGHT IS WE DISCUSS IT TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHEN IT'S FIRST AVAILABLE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT ON THE 16TH AFTER THE WEBINAR.
I HAVE A MEETING, UH, FOR THE VASO, UH, FALL CONFERENCE THE 24TH AND THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER.
I'M ASSUMING THIS TOPIC WILL BE BROUGHT UP REGIONALLY.
UH, SO I MAY GET SOME MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON IT ON THE 24TH AND 25TH THIS MONTH.
IF WE DO NOT GET AN APPLICATION IN BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON FRIDAY, WE WOULD NOT, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A NEW ITEM FOR YOUR OCTOBER MEETING.
SO, UH, THIS WAS YOUR, UH, YEAH.
SO, SO THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AGAIN THE 1ST OF OCTOBER.
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IF YOU CAN.YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU GO TO THE TOWN, GIS THIS IS, OKAY.
UM, UH, THE, I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES, UH, GO FACILITIES.
WHAT ELSE DID WE HAVE ON THERE? YOU'RE AT THE BOTTOM.
UM, NO, THOSE ARE ALL THE SCANNED MAPS.
THE INTERACTIVE VERSION IS ABOUT.
I, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS IN THIS DOCUMENT.
I DON'T, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REDO IT ALL.
I, I'M JUST TRYING TO TOUCH ON THINGS WHERE I CAN LOOK AT.
WHICH IS THE ADDRESS MAP? THE FIRST ONE THAT SHOULD HAVE ZONING ON IT THAT WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO KNOW WE HAVE THIS WHOLE NEW INTERACTIVE GIS WEBSITE FOR THE TOWN.
YOU HAVE TO TURN THE LAYERS ON.
SO THE FILE FINDER MAP, WHICH WAS ON THERE, HE SCANNED ALL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND REZONING FILES.
SO PEOPLE CAN GO AND CLICK ON A PARCEL AND SEE THE PROFFERS OR SEE WHAT CONDITIONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE PERMITS.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO GO TO YOUR LAYERS.
AND YOU GOTTA ZOOM IN FOR THEM TO, YOU CAN, HERE, YOU GOTTA BE IN THE OTHER THING.
YOU GOTTA BE IN THE FILE VIEW.
UH, WHY WON'T IT GO BACK? 'CAUSE THERE IS NO BACK.
SO THAT LIKE FILE FINDER MAP RIGHT THERE? OR THAT ONE? IT'S THIS ONE.
THE FRONT ROW PARCEL VIEW THAT WE WANT.
I WAS GONNA PULL IT OFF MY, I WAS TRYING TO PULL UP MY PHONE BECAUSE I MARK THAT.
IT HAS THE COLORS BUT NOT THE, I MEAN, I REMEMBER THE, THAT RED AND PINK ARE YOUR, OR UH, YEAH, THAT GREEN.
SO THOSE, I GUESS IT'S BROAD IN THIS CASE.
SO THOSE ARE LISTED IN RED MM-HMM
THOSE, THOSE IS THE COMMERCIAL.
ANYTHING IN RED, USUALLY THIS PORTION OF COMMERCE AND SOUTH STREET, THOSE PROPERTIES ALL THE WAY UP.
THEN THE RED AGAIN FOLLOWING COMMERCE STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE BRIDGES.
AND THEN C3 IS THOSE PARCELS WAY UP HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGES.
SO MAINLY, UH, THOSE IN RED ON, UH, SOUTH, UH, SOUTH STREET HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
COMMERCE STREET, UH, THOSE ARE WHERE THEY'D BE PERMITTED IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
NOT IN THE DOWNTOWN C TWO ANYWAY.
JUST WANTED LIKE WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS ARE AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL, WE, WELL, I GUESS YOU COULD DO THE I TWO OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU REMEMBER, IS OVER HERE IN THIS SECTION OF TOWN.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OVER HERE POTENTIAL.
THOSE ARE MANUFACTURING PROCESSING.
SO THOSE WOULD BE THE I ONE OR THE I TWOS, THE DARKER ONES.
I ONE IS THE LIGHTER BLUE HERE.
AND IF YOU SCATTERED THROUGH THE OTHER SECTION OF TOWN, THERE'S NO INDUSTRIAL THAT THEY WOULD WANT FROM.
JUST, JUST WANTED TO, IF YOU LOOK ON SECTION 9 14 5, JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN, UM, REGULARLY PER SE AS FAR AS A COST TO HOSPITAL DAYCARES IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND PARKING AND SO ON.
A BUFFER IN SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS IN 9 14, 6, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET IS THE STANDARD NUMBER, SO TO SPEAK.
BUT WE CAN GO LESS IF WE CHOOSE.
AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE, IF YOU ADOPT THIS WITH A THOUSAND UH, FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE THE GIS DEPARTMENT SHOW WHAT PROPERTIES WOULD BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF THAT.
EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ZONED CORRECTLY.
IF THEY'RE WITHIN A THOUSAND BLOOD OF THESE OTHER PARAMETERS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
DO WE WANNA SAY A THOUSAND FEET? UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE? SO WE WANT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THERE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT INFORMATION TO, TO HAVE.
SO WE COULD, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
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WANT TO, I GUESS DURING THIS DISCUSSION, YOU'RE SAYING PROBABLY YOU'RE LEANING TOWARD A THOUSAND FOOT YES.SO WE CAN GO IN, IN THE MEANTIME IF YOU'D LIKE.
WE COULD HAVE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, DAYCARE, CHILD, UH, FACILITIES, HOSPITAL AND PUBLIC PLAYGROUNDS, UH, PUBLIC PARKS.
WE CAN DO THE 500 AND THAT ELIMINATES SOME PROPERTIES.
UH, WHY WOULD YOU, WHY, WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND DROPPING IT DOWN AT 500 FOR PARKS? UH, THERE IS NO, UM, THERE IS NO STATE REQUIREMENT FOR PARKS, BUT WE CAN PUT ONE IN.
AND THE THOUGHT WAS THAT IF YOU'RE HAVING A, A PARK, UM, 500 FEET WAS CLOSE TO, IT'S, IT'S THIS, IT ISN'T BASED ON ANY PARTICULAR STUDY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE STRICTLY BY THE STATE CODE, WE DON'T HAVE IT AT ALL.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING DONE.
WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE A THOUSAND? WE COULD HAVE A THOUSAND.
THESE ARE ALL PRELIMINARY NUMBERS THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
WE CAN'T GO MORE THAN A THOUSAND.
WE CAN'T GO MORE THAN A THOUSAND.
SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT.
DID YOU, DID YOU MEAN TO, UH, NOT INCLUDE CHURCHES? WE CAN'T IN CLOSING FEES.
I LOOKED IT IS IN THE STATE LAW PACKET OVER HERE.
IT'S, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT YOU, THERE'S A HANDOUT.
WELL, BUT 14.5 IT SAYS INCLUDE PLACE OF WORSHIP.
IT CAN INCLUDE PLACE OF WORSHIP.
IF IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY THING THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IN THIS.
PARDON? NO, THAT'S ONLY FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK, UH, IF WE WOULD INCLUDE IT AS A PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IF WE, IF WE DID NOT HAVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, I WOULD SAY WE'D HAVE TO OMIT THE CHURCHES ALTOGETHER BECAUSE, UH, IT, IN THIS OTHER HANDOUT THAT YOU WERE PUT IN HERE, YOU STRICTLY CAN'T, A CHURCH IS NOT LISTED AS ONE OF THE THINGS TO EXCLUDE IN THE STATE LAW.
SO THIS, THIS IS NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD IN SOME DECISIONS THAT WE MADE AND THIS HANDOUT, THAT'S WHY I, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE, TAKE, TAKE A PEEK AT THAT TOO.
THAT'LL HELP OUT KIND OF A COMBINATION OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IMPORTANT.
A REPORT THAT I TOOK AND TURNED INTO MY NOTES, UH, CO-LOCATION WITH, UM, TOBACCO VAPE AND OTHER INTO HEMP PRODUCTS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE WITH THE VAPE SHOPS, I'M SURE THEY WERE FIGURING IT WAS JUST GONNA BE A STRAIGHT CONVERSION TO SELL, UM, MARIJUANA OR HEMP PRODUCTS.
WELL, THE WAY THE NEW STATE LAW IS, IT DIDN'T, IT REALLY DIDN'T HELP THEM AT ALL.
IT, IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LAW LICENSING PROCESS AND IT'LL BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
UH, UM, FOR THE AGE VERIFICATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SALES BEING MADE ONLY TO INDIVIDUALS.
UM, DON'T WE HAVE, WHEN WE ARE MAKING THE, UH, TOBACCO ORDINANCE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, DID WE SAY THAT UNDER 21 YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED IN? AND IF THAT WAS THE CASE, WOULD WE NOT REPEAT THAT HERE? THE, WE COULD PUT THAT IN THERE.
BUT THAT'S A PART OF THE STATE LAW ALREADY THAT YOU CAN'T, A MINOR IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE STORE.
BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU ALMOST LOOKING AT OURS, IT WOULD BE OH, SURE.
CLARIFYING TO JUST OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I, I MENTIONED EARLIER WE HAVE THE CANNABIS RETAIL DELIVERY HUBS AND LOGISTIC HUBS.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE SPEAK AT.
AGAIN, THESE ARE THE TIMES THAT WE CAN SET WITH SIGN UBER EATS YOUR WEED IS QUICK.
PARDON? BEING ABLE TO UBER EATS YOUR WEED IS CRAZY.
BELIEVE ME, I FIND THAT INTERESTING TOO.
UH, COM A LOT OF MONEY COMPLIANCE AND PENALTIES, UH, SECTION IN HERE.
AND, UH, WE, WE ARE NOT THE ENFORCERS OF STATE LAW.
SO THIS IS A PRETTY LIMITED SECTION THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
UM, IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF DELINQUENCY IN RETAIL TAX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF LEVERAGE.
UM, UH, NINE 14.9 B NINE 14.9 B.
UM, CONSUMPTION WITHIN AN ADJACENT PUBLIC WASTE WAY SHALL BE SUBJECT TO UNIFORM STATE CIVIL COURT FRAMEWORK.
BUT YOU HAVE TO GO, YOU GO LOOK THOSE UP.
YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN PUBLIC, YOU CAN'T SIT ON DOWNTOWN ON, ON THE STOOP.
OH, WELL IT'S MORE, IT'S STRICTER THAN THE BACKHOE.
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LIST ALL THOSE THINGS IN HERE GOES, BUT STATE CODES.AS FAR AS THE STATE CODE, UH, LET'S SEE.
I'LL JUST SITE DESIGN STANDARDS THE SAME THING AS WE WOULD IN ANY, ANY ZONING.
UH, WE CAN DO SCREENING OF PARTICULAR EQUIPMENT OR WHERE THE CASE MAY BE WITH THE SAME REGULATION OF LIGHTING.
SO THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE, UM, SOMETHING WITH A BUNCH OF NEON LIGHTS ON IT.
THEY CAN'T CALL IT HOLIDAY LIGHTING.
WE'VE HAD 'EM DO THAT
SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THAT.
SO YOU STUDY, SO WENT OF THE CHARTS, GET A BRIEF BOOK FROM HERE AND THEN YOU WOULD, UH, THEN WE COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AFTER OUR MEETING AND AFTER THE MEETING WE'RE GONNA HAVE WITH, UH, SANS ANDERSON AND I'M READY TO MAKE CHANGES
UM, AND THEN ALL THE STUFF WITH TAXES AND WHATNOT, THAT'S NOT OUR PREROGATIVE.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S NOT OURS.
OUR, OUR JOB WAS TO MAKE, UM, TOWN LEADERSHIP AWARE OF IT.
IF YOU CAN LOOK THIS DOCUMENTS OVER, YOU MAY WANNA DO YOUR OWN LITTLE RESEARCH IF YOU CAN OR HAVE QUESTIONS.
IF YOU, YOU MAY WANNA SIGN ON TO THAT LINK.
UH, IT'S A WEBINAR 11, 11 TO 12 I THINK IT IS.
UH, THEN WE'LL MEET THAT EVENING BECAUSE WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
WE CAN ADJOURN FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER AND DISCUSS WHAT WE LEARNED THAT DAY AT THE WEBINAR.
UH, I MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION BY THE END OF THE SEPTEMBER AT THE VASO CONFERENCE.
AND AGAIN, IF WE DO NOT RECEIVE AN APPLICATION BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON VARIETY OF THIS WEEK, WE HAVE NO ITEMS FOR YOU FOR OCTOBER FOR PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WITH A ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO WE COULD HAVE A WORK SESSION 1ST OF OCTOBER TO GO OVER THIS AGAIN AND SEE IF YOU'RE, IF IF EVERYTHING'S ALIGNED, WE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE WORK SESSIONS ALREADY ON THIS.
WE COULD HAVE IT TO GO OCTOBER.
IS THAT THE EARLIEST WE COULD HAVE TO GO? YEAH.
THE EARLIEST WE COULD HAVE IT TO GO IS OCTOBER WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE, BUT THAT THE NEXT, THIS MONTH IS GOING TO END ON WHETHER WE FEEL WE'VE GOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FROM THE MEETING HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH.
AND WE'LL HAVE THAT WORK SESSION AFTER THE MEETING THAT YOU FEEL SATISFIED WITH ANOTHER WORK SESSION THE 1ST OF OCTOBER.
AND WE CAN TAKE THAT TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ZONING WARRANT.
SO EVERYTHING WOULD GO IN OCTOBER.
IF, IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WON'T BE ABLE TO.
THE ZONING ORDER THAT YOU'VE ALREADY LOOKED OVER WE'RE JUST MAKING CHANGES.
UH, PROOFREADING, UM, DOING A LITTLE BIT OF ORGANIZATION THINGS WERE FORMATTING.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
UH, WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
UH, WE MAY ADD A COUPLE DEFINITIONS THAT WE FOUND THAT WE LEFT OUT JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THINGS WE DISCOVERED AND WE, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT WHEN WE JUST DOING A DEFINITION SECTION.
WE COULD DISCUSS THAT IN OCTOBER.
A COUPLE DEFINITIONS FOR TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE HAD SOME REQUESTS FOR, IT HAD SOME REQUESTS FOR THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS.
SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE WORK SESSION IN OCTOBER.
UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE THING, UH, TO YOU IN OCTOBER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT IN THE HANDOUT TOO.
IT HAS THE LIST OF THE, UH, WHAT, WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE ORDINANCES TO HELP OUT THERE.
AND, UH, BY ALL MEANS, CHAT TBT IS REALLY HANDY TO DO SOME OF THIS RESEARCH.
SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION, LIKE I SAID, MIDDLE OF THIS MONTH, ANOTHER WORK SESSION IN OCTOBER.
SO THAT GIVES YOU TWO MORE WORK SESSIONS THAT OVER THIS.
SO, UH, HAVE YOU MADE TOWN COUNCIL AWARE OF THE WEBINAR? UH, I HAVE NOT.
THEY SHOULD PROBABLY DIRECTLY THAT THEY SHOULD EDUCATE THEM.
AND I, I KNOW WE HAD A PRE-MEETING SIX WEEKS AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ABOUT THIS, UH, GEORGE, WAS THERE ANY, ANY WORDS OF WISDOM THAT YOU COULD PASS ON? UM, OUT OF WHICH, REMEMBER WE, WE WENT OVER SOME OF THIS ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE RETAIL CANNABIS.
JUST, JUST ASKING YOU, TALKING ABOUT ME PERSONALLY AS, AS TOWN ATTORNEY.
AS TOWN ATTORNEY, I, UM, IN LAW LEARNING MODE.
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YEAH.I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FOCUS ON THIS.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING OUT WE CAN GO, GO AROUND THE TEAM, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE NOT PUSHING IT, BUT WE HAVE AMPLE TIME WITH THE WORK SESSIONS.
WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WORK SESSIONS TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN, UM, RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN I GUESS.
YEAH, WITH THE RESEARCH, UM, I'M THINKING THAT THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CARE IN THE RESEARCH BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT ONE TOWN DOES IN VIRGINIA MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT A TOWN DOES IN, IN COLORADO.
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN THE RESEARCH TOO.
EVEN BUT LIKE SOME OF THOSE BOUNDARIES AROUND SOME OF THIS RESEARCH, SHOULD IT JUST BE KEPT IN VIRGINIA? KEEP IT IN VIRGINIA YOU DO RESEARCH BECAUSE VIRGINIA'S LIKE THE STRONGEST DI WALL OR DI RULE STATE IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR.
AND ALSO BE CAREFUL 'CAUSE THERE'S A HOUSE VERSION, THERE'S A, A SENATE VERSION.
THEN THEY HAVE A COMBINED, THERE WAS THE VERSION THAT WAS VETOED.
THERE WAS THE COMPROMISE VERSION THAT WENT INTO THE BUDGET AND EACH ONE HAD SLIGHT DIFFERENCES.
SO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
WHICH, WHICH ONE? 'CAUSE YOU MAY FIND SOMETHING TO SAY, WELL THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN I SEE IN HERE.
WELL THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FINAL VERSION.
IT CHANGED JUST LIKE THE, UM, THE ABILITY OF A TOWN TO HAVE A REFERENDUM ON WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CANNABIS OR NOT WAS TAKEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE OR TAKEN OUT NEAR THE END.
SO WHICH ONE IS, WHICH ONE IS THE FINAL? IS IT THE LINK THAT YOU HAVE HERE? THE LINK THAT HAVE IS PART OF IT? 4.1 DASH 6 2 9.
I, IF, IF IT WOULD HELP, I I COULD SEND EVERYBODY I HAVE A, I'LL JUST SEND EVERYBODY.
AND THAT WILL, THAT WILL SPEED THINGS ALONG.
AND THEN I'LL READ IT AND MISS THREE QUARTERS OF IT.
SO, AND I ACTUALLY, THAT SAID IT'S NEXT MEETING THAT I WON'T BE HERE.
SO IN TWO WEEKS YOU WON'T BE HERE.
AND THE NIGHT, THE 16TH, WHATEVER THE, ACTUALLY WHOEVER YOU ARE ON THE 16TH, CAN YOU DO THE WEBINAR IF IT'S ONLINE, RIGHT.
I WAS THINKING I MIGHT DO THE WEBINAR.
BUT I WON'T BE HERE FOR THE WORK SESSION ON THE SEVENTH.
IS ANYBODY ELSE GONNA BE OUT ON THE 7TH OF OCTOBER? I I WILL SUBMIT MY THOUGHTS BEFOREHAND.
I MEAN WE, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE HAVE HEARING, WE HAVE TWO MORE CRACKS IN THIS.
AND WE HAVE THAT WEBINAR AND USUALLY THEY MAKE THAT AVAILABLE.
AT LEAST THEY MAKE THE, UH, THEY DO A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THEN THEY MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR, THEY'LL SEND THAT TO ME.
WE CAN HAVE A LINK TO DOWNLOAD IT.
SO I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND DISCUSS THAT AT THE MEETING HERE AT THE 16TH.
UM, AND THE TOPIC MAY, LIKE I SAID, HOPEFULLY BE BROUGHT UP AT THE, MY MEETING ON THE 24TH AND THE 25TH.
OTHER LOW COUNTIES MAY HAVE THE SAME THING AND THEY MAY HOST ANOTHER ONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, IN, IN A WAY WE'RE, WE, WE'RE AHEAD OF THE PACK WITH A LOT OF PLACES IN THE STATE RIGHT NOW ON, ON, OF COURSE WE'RE FOR ROYAL.
JOHN, ANYTHING ELSE? CONNIE, PLEASE? UH, GEORGE, UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU CAN'T APPEAR VIRTUALLY.
YOU CAN'T APPEAR AT A, THE WEBINAR.
VIRTUALLY THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME PUSH FOR GOOD EXCUSES.
YOU, YOU CAN APPLY VIRTUALLY A WORK SESSION VIRTUALLY.
LAUREN, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT MY LAST MEETING? YEAH, THE LAST MEETING.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT
MOTION TO DO OH, 1 1, 1 THING.
I THINK, UH, BASED ON OUR WORK SCHEDULE, UM, MAYBE GOING FORWARD AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS HERE, DEPENDING ON, UH, 'CAUSE OUR WORK SESSIONS ARE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, RIGHT? UH, SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TONIGHT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS CANNABIS, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH REALLY DIDN'T TAKE BUT 15 MINUTES.
WE LOOK AT IT REALISTICALLY, UH, WE MAY NOT BE DOING, MY SUGGESTION IS MAYBE WE DO NOT HAVE WORK SESSIONS FOR THESE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THAT TAKE ONLY IN 15 MINUTES THAT WE, WE WOULD, CAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
AND YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THESE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. SOMETHING LIKE A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
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COMPLETE, THEY PASS THE INSPECTION.IT PROBABLY IS NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ON OUR TIME AND WE COULD DISCUSS THAT DURING THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING WHEN WE HAVE STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATIONS.
SO I JUST BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE ELIMINATING A WORK SESSION WHEN, WHEN IT'S JUST SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT AFTER, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DOING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
STUFF THAT TAKES, WE'VE BEEN INPUT.
THIS, THIS IS, IT JUST SLOWED DOWN ON THIS JUST RECENTLY.
BUT WE GOT BIGGER, YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMING UP FOR YEAR AND UH, YEAH.
SO THIS, I'M NOT SAYING WE'LL ELIMINATE, I DON'T DON'T, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN VERY OFTEN IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOUR BYLAWS CALL FOR WORK SESSIONS.
I'M JUST SAYING SOMETHING LIKE A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH IT'S THE ONLY THING, IT'S THE ONLY THING.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, AND YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE MEETING.
'CAUSE WE, WE, THE ONE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE QUORUM, WE ENDED UP BRINGING THAT ITEM FORWARD.
IT WAS RELATIVELY, RELATIVELY SIMPLE.