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MEETING, UM, FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, 2026.UH, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIRMAN WATERS HERE.
VICE CHAIRMAN EATERS IS OUT TONIGHT.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JULY 14TH.
SO, ON, ON BEHALF OF, UH, THOSE OF US WHO WERE HERE, UM, THE TWO SALIENT PARTS OF THE MINUTES ARE THE DISCUSSION, UH, WITH MR. BANG, UH, WHO WAS COMING BACK TO US ON 5 0 7 EAST MAIN, WHERE HE HAD BEGUN WORK.
THAT INCLUDED, UM, WORKING WITH HIS CONTRACTOR, HAVING REPLACED ALL THE WOODEN WINDOWS EXCEPT ONE WITH VINYL.
UM, AND HE ASKED AGAIN THAT WE, UM, SIMPLY POST RATIFY HIS WINDOWS AND WE WERE LEFT IN A, IN A BIND.
AND THIS, THIS CAPTURES IT THAT, UM, IT CAN'T BE THAT IF YOU JUST DON'T DO THE PROJECT THAT WAS DESCRIBED AND INSTEAD STALL US FOR A YEAR AND THEN COME BACK, THAT YOU'LL GET A BETTER OFFER THAT WE'LL NEGOTIATE AGAINST OURSELVES.
SO, UM, BECAUSE HE CAME AND ASKED FOR US TO JUST RATIFY HIS PROJECT, AND HE WAS NOT IN A POSITION TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING DIFFERENT OR BETTER, UM, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER HIM.
IT WAS EXACTLY NOT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE WISHING WE COULD HAVE MORE OFTEN.
AND INSTEAD, WE FOUND OURSELVES JUST SAYING, NO, WE WANT THE WOODEN WINDOWS THAT WE ASKED FOR LAST, LAST TIME.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY READOPTED WHAT I THINK WAS A SEPTEMBER OF 2025, UH, RIGHT.
AND NOW IT'S, IT'S COMING UP ON, OR WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WOOD WINDOWS TO GO.
AND, BUT THAT WAS ALSO AT A TIME WHEN HE HAD ALREADY TORN THEM ALL OUT.
UM, SO, UM, WE INSTEAD SAID, WHAT WE WANT HERE IS WHAT WE WANTED LAST TIME.
THAT THE ONE REMAINING WINDOW, UM, SHOULD BE THE ONE REMAINING WOOD WINDOW SHOULD BE REPAIRED.
AND ALL WINDOWS ON THE FRONT AND THE BACK BE REPLACED WITH SIX OVER SIX WOODEN WINDOWS.
ALL WINDOWS NEED TO BE SET APPROPRIATELY WITH WOOD, EXTERIOR TRIM OR MORTAR AS APPROPRIATE TO THE HOUSE OR STRUCTURE.
ALL WORK TO BE INSPECTED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT I DISCUSSED, UM, THE FACT THAT RIVERTON IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER BUT HAS NO PROTECTION FROM THE TOWN.
AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EXPANDING THAT.
SO, SO CONSIDERING THAT THE MI THE MINUTES AS RECORDED FAIRLY CAPTURE THAT, AND I SEE, UH, THERESA NODDING, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT, UM, THOSE, UH, MINUTES.
WANT ME TO DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE NO.
OR, OR I MEAN, PARDON ME? GO AHEAD.
SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH HIS WINDOWS
UM, SO HE HAS APPEALED YOUR DECISION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THEM, I THINK AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
WHEN DID THEY DISCUSS IT? WELL, THEY HAD DIS DISCUSSED IT JULY END.
THEY HAD TO DISCUSS IT LAST WORK SESSION.
'CAUSE THE CODE SAYS THEY HAVE TO AT
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THEIR NEXT MEETING OKAY.BUT THE ACTUAL DECISION, DECISION AND VOTING WILL BE AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE 24TH.
AND I THINK NOW HE CAME INTO THE, I DIDN'T WATCH THE MEETING.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE CAME TO THAT MEETING, I THINK ALONE, WHEREAS THE BAR MEETING, HE CAME WITH THIS CONTRACT.
AND HIS CONTRACTOR, THIS IS WHAT HE'S, HE'S SAYING TO THE COUNCIL, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ASKED THAT YOU ALL APPROVE WOOD WINDOWS JUST IN THE NINE THAT FACED MAIN STREET AND ALLOW HIM TO DO VINYL ON THE SIDES AND REAR WHERE PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT FOR MAIN STREET, BECAUSE THAT'S LESS COST PROHIBITED THAN CHANGING OUT 18 OR 60, WHATEVER THE TOW MIGHT.
HADN'T WE SUMMONED SOME IN, IN ASCENT? YOU ALL APPROVED VINYL WINDOWS IN THE SIDE THAT FACES THE LAUNDROMAT.
THREE OR THREE, WHICH, WHICH WAS TWO OR THREE WINDOWS, BUT THE REST WERE WOOD.
SO HIS ASK WHEN HE ORIGINALLY SPOKE TO US AND FILLED OUT THE NEW COA WAS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE NINE FRONTS WOULD AND THE REST FILED.
THAT'S NOT WHAT HIS CONTRACTOR ASKED IN THE MEETING.
HE NEVER REALLY SPOKE UP OR, OR EXPANDED.
AND IT WASN'T ON THE APPLICATION THAT WAY, AND IT WASN'T ON THE APPLICATION THAT WAY.
AND SO OF COURSE IT WAS DENIED BECAUSE NOTHING CHANGED.
AND I THINK HIS CONTRACTOR WANTED TO MAKE THE VINYL WINDOWS LOOK MORE PERIOD CONSISTENT AND THAT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, ET CETERA.
THE U BUTTONS ON THE FRONT SURFACE, BUT NOW IT'S BEFORE COUNCIL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ELLEN AND I WENT TO THAT COUNCIL MEETING AND SPOKE AS CONCERNED CITIZENS,
UM, AND IT, AND I, AND ACTUALLY AT THE, AT THE INITIAL SESSION WHERE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, I JUST SAID WE, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY THE BOARDS, THE, THE ANY TOWN ENTITY INTERACTS WITH PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE, THERE'S A CULTURE OF, OF DIALOGUE AND NEGOTIATION AND THAT, AND THEN THAT INITIAL MEETING.
SO I SAID THAT, AND THEN ALSO AS A, UM, A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I, I JUST SAID, JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM, BOARDS CAN'T BE ASKED TO NEGOTIATE AGAINST THEMSELVES AS A MATTER OF GENERAL PRINCIPLE.
UM, AND, AND, UM, THEN I, I'M JUST ALSO GONNA REPORT THAT, UM, STILL BEING NEIGHBORHOOD KEVIN, UH, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. BANG OUT, UH, IN THE HALL AFTERWARDS WHERE I ENCOURAGED HIM TO TALK WITH LAUREN.
UH, BECAUSE IT, THE VIBE I GOT FROM THE COUNCIL WAS THEY WERE LIKE, WE'RE PRETTY SURE WE'RE NOT THE ONES WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SOLVING THIS.
AND, AND THEY WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT LAUREN OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT FOR, FOR, FOR A DEAL FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE.
AND, AND IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS AGAIN, THAT A CONVERSATION WITH MR. BANG.
UM, AND SO I ACTUALLY, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I SAID TO MR. BANG, MR. BANG, IF I WERE IN YOUR SITUATION, I WOULD WANT TO BE COMING BACK WITH A BIGGER PROPOSAL TO THE BAR THAT SAID, I'LL PUT THE PORCH BACK ON.
I WILL RESTORE PERIOD SHUTTERS.
UM, AND IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE PROJECT.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD BE TRYING TO COME TO THE BOARD AND SAYING, IF I PUT ON OPERABLE WOODEN SHUTTERS AND, AND I CLONE A PERIOD APPROPRIATE PYRAMIDAL, UH, THREE BAY PORCH, SUCH AS IS SHOWN IN THE HISTORIC SURVEY AS KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN THERE, I WOULD USE THAT AS A BETTER WAY TO, YOU KNOW, TO START A BETTER CONVERSATION.
UM, AND, UM, UH, AND THEN, UH, HE, HE CAME INTO THE OFFICE AND,
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AND TALKED TO LAUREN.UM, AND I, UH, I THINK HE'S LOOKING INTO, OR I HOPE HE IS, I HAS TALKED TO HER ABOUT PUTTING IT BACK A PORCH.
BUT THE, BUT, BUT THE POINT WOULD BE, UM, UH, I, I JUST ENCOURAGED HIM TO PROPOSE A PROJECT SOLUTION AND NOT JUST A
WHAT I WISH, I THINK, I THINK, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
OF COURSE HE DID EVERYTHING WITHOUT A PERMIT.
SO HE KNEW NOTHING UPFRONT, WHETHER HE DID OR DIDN'T.
I THINK THE BIG ISSUE HERE IS THE WOOD WINDOWS ARE GONE.
THEY'VE BEEN GONE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
THERE'S NO OPTION TO RESTORE OR ANYTHING.
IT'S GONNA BE TEAR OUT 18 BRAND NEW VINYL WINDOWS THAT WERE 200 SOMETHING DOLLARS A POP AND PURCHASE 18 BRAND NEW WOOD WINDOWS THAT ARE WHITE, SIX OVER SIX.
THAT'S A BIGGER ASK THAN THE WINDOWS ARE STILL THERE AND I WANT TO CHANGE 'EM OUT TO VINYL.
'CAUSE NOW I STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO REDO MY WINDOW.
HE HAS NO OPTION OTHER THAN BUY BRAND NEW WINDOWS.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT THEY WENT IN THE DUMPSTER IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT, RIGHT.
AGAIN, HE HE'S BEEN GOING AT THIS THE WRONG WAY SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WE WERE KIND OF MORE STRICT IN THE INITIAL THING WITH GOING BACK WITH WOOD WINDOWS.
IT'S LIKE, LOOK MAN, WE GOTTA DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, I, I DON'T REMEMBER TOO WELL ABOUT THAT ORIGINAL MEETING, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.
THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS CONFUSED ABOUT THE WINDOW SITUATION BECAUSE UNDER MANUFACTURERS SLING OUT $200 VINYL WINDOWS.
AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE THINK THEIR ONLY OPTION IS.
AND THAT'S THE MOST, OBVIOUSLY THE MOST AFFORDABLE.
BUT WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO, UM, PROVIDE APPLICANTS WITH, UM, GUIDELINES FOR WORK PURCHASE APPROPRIATE WINDOWS.
I MEAN, IT, IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR GUIDELINES TO REC MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
HERE'S THREE THAT ARE, AND THEN, BUT ALSO THERE HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY BECAUSE THERE ARE VINYL WINDOWS THAT LOOK BETTER THAN OTHER VINYL WINDOWS.
VINYL IS NOT EVEN A, AN APPROPRIATE, IT'S NOT, BUT SO SHOULD NOT A SHE
I MEAN, IT'S NEVER NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
IT'S LIKE WE GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF A MIDDLE GROUND.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN RESTORE WOOD WINDOWS AND YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, SUPER DUPER.
IF YOU'RE IN A POSITION WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE BAD AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT IN NEW ONES, LIKE AT LEAST SQUEEZE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GET ONES THAT WILL AT LEAST SIMULATE THE PROFILE THAT IT'S CLOSE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A, A DIALOGUE THAT I WISH WE WOULD'VE HAD WITH, RIGHT.
WELL, I THINK, UM, THE POINT IS, TO SOME EXTENT, IT, THIS IS WITH THE COUNCIL AND IT'S NO LONGER OUR PLACE TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.
UM, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WELL, THE, THE, THE POINT IS L LAUREN HAS A LOT ON HER PLATE RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BETTER PLACE.
I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD JUST SAY IT'S A FAR DECISION AND, AND A LOT OF ISSUE STEMS FROM LANGUAGE BARRIER.
AND COMMUNICATION IS DIFFICULT.
BUT, BUT YEAH, IN MY PRESENCE, HE DID LOOK FOR WOODEN SHUTTERS ON EBAY, AUTHENTIC
SO ISN'T THERE AN ARCHITECTURAL SALVAGE YARD AROUND ANYWHERE? THERE IS.
BUT IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEVER HAD.
THAT WE LIKE SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN SIDE TO HAVE WITH THE APPLICANT AND, AND, UH, THAT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.
BUT I'M GLAD WE, WE PRO WE'RE PROCESSING THAT, UH, AS A BOARD.
UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S JUMP ON THIS COURTHOUSE THING
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'CAUSE IT'S OKAY.DANIEL, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH THAT? YEAH.
SO, COA APPLICATION 2603 98 IS A COA SUBMITTED BY A COUNTY OF WARRANT FOR THE COMPLETE RESTORATION OF THE CLOCK TOWER AT THE WARREN COUNTY COURTHOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, THEY ARE NOT SENDING A REPRESENTATIVE.
THEY, AS THE COUNTY HAVE APPLIED FOR THE COA, THE CONTRACTOR THAT WAS AWARDED THE BID IS TO APPLY FOR ALL ZONING PERMITS.
IT TOOK 'EM SOME TIME ORIGINALLY, I THINK THEY, THEY FLOATED THE IDEA OF REMOVING THE TOWER COMPLETELY.
THAT WAS NOT GONNA FLY, I DON'T THINK WITH ANYBODY.
I JUST THINK THAT'S, IT'S A CHARACTER TOO SIGNIFICANT OF A STRUCTURE AND A, AND A CHARACTER TO REMOVE.
SO REGARDLESS, UH, THEY PUT IT OUT THE BID AFTER SOME TIME.
IT'S VALLEY RESTORATIONS, LLC, HISTORIC PLASTER SOLUTIONS, LLC.
SO IN YOUR PACKET IS THE BID PACKET THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AND THEN THAT'S THIS ATTACHED AFTER THE FACT HERE IS WHAT VALLEY RESTORATIONS HAS ACTUALLY PROVIDED THE COUNTY.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE SAYING SCRAPE IT, CLEAN IT, REPAINT IT, REPLACE THE ROTTED WOODWORK AND, UH, TO INCLUDE THE DECORATIVE BURNS.
PUT A NEW COPPER DOME ON IT, PUT A NEW COPPER FLAT SEAM ROOF ON IT AT THE BELL DECK.
IT'S, IT'S THE, I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING WITH A AND TO A BUDGET, THE COUNTY MM-HMM
SO IDEALLY THEY WOULD STRIP IT ALL THE WAY TO EXPOSE THE PAINT THE PAINT YEAH.
AND GO BACK WITH SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE.
BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT, WHICH IS FINE.
THEY'RE APPLYING A CODE OF MAD DOG PRIMER.
I COULDN'T ACTUALLY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TECHNICAL SPECS ON IT, ON THEIR WEBSITE AT ALL.
THEY HAVE A LITTLE BULLET LIST OF WHAT IT'S SUPPOSEDLY DOES, BUT THERE'S NO, THEY SAY IT'S, THEY PERMEABLE, BUT THERE'S NO PERMEATING, THERE'S NO TECH DATA SHEET THAT I COULD FIND.
IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE IT HAD ANY PERMEABILITY.
IT SAID THEY HAD BULLET, IT SAID IT'S HIGHLY PERMEABLE.
ALSO, THERE'S, THEY, THERE'S SEVERAL PRIMER PRODUCTS ON THEIR WEBSITE.
I'M NOT SAYING WHICH ONE THEY'RE USING.
SO THAT WAS A BIG RED FLAG FOR ME.
I MEAN, IF IT'S, UM, ACRYLIC IS NOT, IT'S AN ACRYLIC PRIMER THAT'S HAS GLUE IN IT, YOU KNOW, AND MAKES IT VERY STICKY.
WHICH, WHICH IS NOT ENTIRELY COMPATIBLE WITH THE TOP COATS THEY'RE PUTTING ON IT.
ARE THE TOP COATS GOOD? THEY'RE FINE.
BUT THEY, THEY'RE PRIMER TOP COATS TOGETHER.
IS IS THERE A MAD DOG PRIMER THAT IS PERMEABLE? LIKE IS THAT ONE OF THE I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK WE DON'T GO, I DON'T THINK WE GO THERE IN THIS, I THINK WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE, IT SAYS HAND TOOLS AND LIGHT SAND.
WELL, I THINK WE, AND THAT, WELL, LET'S START WITH THE FIRST BULLET.
THEY'RE USING THIS, UM, SYSTEM SCAFFOLDING METHOD.
WHICH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THOSE IS IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S IN THE PACKET? THEY'RE NOT SAYING SCOPE OF WORK.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING SANDBLASTING.
THEY'RE SAYING THEY CHANGED IT IN THE, BUT THE POINT IS I SHOULD BE READING THE HANDOUT AS RIGHT.
SO WHAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY WAS, BUT THE COUNTY'S THE BIG REQUEST.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO.
WELL, THERE'S, OH, THEY'RE SAYING MAYBE I, I MISREAD THIS.
I I READ SAND MEANING SAND LASTING.
TOOLS AND LIGHT SANDING IS WHAT IT SHOULD SAY.
CAN WE BACK UP TO THE FIRST BULLET? SURE.
THAT SYSTEM SCAFFOLDING METHOD IS ONE THAT REQUIRES ANCHORING TO THE BUILDING.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, ASK THAT THEY CON CONFIRM, CLARIFY WHATEVER, THAT ANY ANCHORS WILL BE PUT INTO THE JOINTS.
JOINTS AND STONE AND NOT THE STONER.
AND THAT THE ANCHOR HOLES WILL BE PATCHED WHEN THEY TAKE THE SCAFFOLDING DOWN.
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YEAH.SO WE ARE, UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT HERE, UH, THEY'RE JUST GONNA GET BACK FROM US, ALYSSA, WHAT THEY NEED TO RESUBMIT OF OF TWEAKS.
OR, OR DO WE ARE, ARE WE EMPOWERED TO JUST SAY, SO WE APPROVE THIS IF YOU WANT IT.
YOU CAN APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS.
AND, AND, AND SO DO WE WANNA SEE IT RESUBMITTED? I THINK WE, I MEAN THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA DO, THEY'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO.
UM, IF WE CAN MAKE OUR CLARIFICATIONS TO THE SCOPE THAT WITH WHAT WE THINK IS MORE APPROPRIATE, UM, TO A DEGREE, OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT PAINT TO USE.
ALTHOUGH I REALLY WANT NO, WE CAN'T, CAN'T WE? ISN'T THAT A MATERIALS THING? THEY'RE GONNA, LET'S, LET'S STICK WITH THE BIG THINGS LIKE HOLES IN THE STONE.
BUT THE POINT IS OUR, OUR CONDITION, THE POINT IS WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE A LIST OF CONDITIONS YEAH.
THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT HERE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING GOOD STUFF.
THEY'RE PUTTING, THEY'RE GOING BACK WITH COPPER.
THEY MIGHT DO SOME GOLD LEAF AND THAT ADVANCED REPAIR TECH REPLACING WOOD WITH MAHOGANY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S IS IT THE IDEAL SCOPE? NO.
IS IT PRETTY GOOD? I THINK THAT ANCHORING OF THE SCAFFOLDING, BUT FOR SURE SCAFFOLD, IT DOESN'T SAY AN ANCHORED, BUT THAT TYPE OF, THAT TYPE IS AN ANCHOR.
IT WILL BE ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING.
IT'S NOT THAT, UM, A SYSTEM SCAFFOLD METHOD IS ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING.
OH, BY OSHA STANDARDS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ANCHOR IT EVERY 12 FEET, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 15 YEARS.
I KNOW ITS SYSTEM SCAFFOLD IS NOT ALWAYS ANCHORED.
LIKE IF IT'S NOT ANCHORED, IT'S JUST WOBBLES.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, THEIR SCAFFOLD TYPE IS A REASON TO DENY.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DENY IT AT ALL.
I'M JUST, IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INJECT SOME THINGS THAT ARE REASONABLE.
SO WORKING BACKWARDS FOR, FOR, UM, FOR, FOR ME, WHO IS, UM,
AND YOU'RE INCLINED TO IMPROVE.
UM, BUT NOW, EXCEPT FOR THAT, WE, WE HAVE CHANGES THAT, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MADE.
AND WE KIND OF HAVE A CHOICE OF JUST SAYING, HERE'S SOME HAPPY THOUGHTS THAT YOU'RE, THAT THE BAR IS VOLUNTEERING OR THESE ARE CONDITIONS ON, I MEAN WE CAN APPROVAL OR THESE ARE, GIVE THEM AS MUCH AS OUR REASONS FOR REJECTING.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE A REASON TO OBJECT.
WELL, I'M JUST, WE, WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS.
I HAVE ONE THING, ONLY ONE THING.
ONLY THE SCAFFOLD INTO THE CORNER.
IF THEY, IF THEY, WHOEVER SETS UP THE SCAFFOLDING ANCHORS INTO THE BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO ANCHOR IT INTO THE BOARD.
I SUSPECT THESE GUYS WOULD DO THAT ANYWAY.
BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STATED.
AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PAINT IT WITH.
WE COULD GO THERE, BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE BUILDING.
WELL, AND IT'S NOT GONNA HURT THE MATERIAL.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING, IT'S LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS, SO THEY'RE, THIS, THERE'S NUMBERS THAT THEY HAVE ON HERE IS GONNA GONNA GO UP.
'CAUSE THEY'RE SAYING WHERE, WHERE IS IT FIT? UM, AND THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE A ROD.
THE CONTRACTORS SHALL IDENTIFY ANY ROTTED WOOD AND REPLACE WITH LIKE KIND AND QUALITY MILLWORK.
SO FUNNY THING IS YOU THROW A NUMBER AT THAT RIGHT.
BIDDING, ASSUMING THAT IT MIGHT BE 40 LINEAR FEET IF WHATEVER, OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
AND YOU GET UP THERE AND IT'S, AND IT'S ALL 500 LINEAR YOUR FEET.
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GOOD LUCK.UM, BUT ANYHOW, AGAIN, NOT OUR PROBLEM.
I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS FINE.
THE SCAFFOLDING, IF IT'S ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING, NEEDS TO BE SET INTO A MORE JOINT, NOT STONE AND PATCHED AFTER COMPLETION WITH AN APPROPRIATE ORDER.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING, UM, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT TO BE, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, THAT WE COULDN'T NOT SAY IF WE'RE TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.
WOULDN'T THE MATERIAL, WOULDN'T THE PRIMER BE IN THAT PART OF THE REASONS I, I SET UP THIS, THIS SPECTRUM OF, YOU KNOW, FROM JUST, OH, HAVE A THOUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, THE HALF THE THOUGHT IS TO THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THEIR PAINT PRODUCT IS 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE, SO IT, SO IT'S HOW THESE TWO THINGS ANCHORS INTO JOINTS, HOLES PATCH WITH APPROPRIATE MORTAR AFTER MM-HMM
THAT'S ONLY A GOOD THING TO SAY.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW FORCEFULLY YOU, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN WHAT CHANNEL WE WANT THAT MESSAGE TO BE SENT, I GUESS.
UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A CONDITION ON OUR APPROVAL.
THAT'S THE ONLY CONDITION I WOULD HAVE ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THIS IS LIKE A, A, IF YOU HAD TIERS OF RESTORATION, THIS WOULD BE LIKE A B LEVEL RESTORATION APPROACH.
IDEALLY THEY WOULD STRIP THAT THING HEAD TO TOE, IDENTIFY ALL THE WOOD, AND DO LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A DESIGN BUILD.
LIKE OKAY, WE HAVE TO, NOW THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND IDENTIFY ANY STRUCTURAL ISSUES, THEN TREAT THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT.
COME IN, REPLACE ALL THE WOOD.
IDEALLY THE URNS WOULD BE TURNED IN METAL COPPER INSTEAD OF GOING BACK WITH WOOD.
'CAUSE THEY JUST CAN EXPLODE AGAIN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH PAINT YOU PUT ON 'EM, YOU WOULD GO, YOU WOULD STRIP THE ENTIRE THING, GO BACK WITH AN APPROPRIATE PAINT SYSTEM LIKE CLEAN SEEDED OIL, SOMETHING THAT'S HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE.
IT'S NOT GONNA FALL OFF IN FIVE YEARS.
AND, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING THE COPPER.
THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY JUST SAY 20 OUNCE FLAT SEED COPPER ROOF.
THEY DON'T IDENTIFY ANY UNDERLAYMENT IN THAT.
THEY DON'T SPECIFY THE PANEL SHOULD BE PRE SWEATED.
YOU KNOW, UH, PRETEND THERE'S NO SPECS ON IT, JUST SO THEY'RE LIKE AT THE WHIM OF THE CONTRACTOR TO DO EITHER DUE, DUE DUE DILIGENCE.
WHEREAS I WAS DESIGNING THIS PROJECT, I WOULD BE A LOT MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT I EXPECTED.
UM, TOWER CLOCK IS NOT IN THE PROPOSAL.
UM, SO AT THIS POINT, SHOULD I MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE, WE CALL IT A CONDITION OR JUST ON THE CONDITION THAT THE SCAFFOLDING, SHOULD IT BE ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING, IS ANCHORED INTO AN A MORTAR JOINT? NOT THE STONE.
WHEN IT IS REMOVED, THOSE HOLES ARE PATCHED WITH AN APPROPRIATE MORTAR.
WHAT ABOUT THE PRIMER? I THINK THAT WE STICK WITH WHAT WE AND HAVE AN IMPACT.
WELL, I MEAN, CAN WE JUST, THAT THAT OPENS UP A WHOLE NOTHER THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE SCOPE, YOU KNOW.
THE WRONG PAINT THAT CAN BE, THAT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE BUILDING.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHO'S DOING THE CLOCK? ARE THEY DOING THE CLOCK? UH, I DUNNO.
BECAUSE THEIR APPLICATION TO US INCLUDES THE CLOCK, BUT THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT.
SHALL WE JUST NOTE THAT REVIEW OF THE CLOCK WORK WAS NOT REVIEWED? IT'S NOT IN THE PROPOSAL.
IT'S NOT IN THE BIDDER'S PROPOSAL.
WELL, YOU CAN REVIEW WHAT, I GUESS WHAT WAS IN THE BID PACKET.
BUT WHY WOULD WE, WE, THE ASSUMPTION IS IT'S NOT BEING DONE, BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS, IT'S REALLY NOT OUR ISSUE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THEM FIXING THE CLOCK.
DOESN'T MATTER WHO DOES IT, YOU KNOW.
WELL THE FACT THAT THEY'RE FIXING IT IS A BIG DEAL.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN HAVE TO, I'M SURE THEY WOULDN'T REPAIR EVERYTHING ELSE AND NOT HAVE A WORKING PUMP.
THEY MIGHT HAVE A, I WOULD BE FULLY CAPABLE.
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I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S NO PARTS OF THE CLOCK THAT WOULD REALLY NO, IT'S FALL UNDER YOUR RIGHT.UNLESS THEY PAINTED THE DIAL PAINT EVEN THEN NEON GREEN GLOW IN THE DARK.
THAT'D ACTUALLY BE KIND OF COOL.
SO I'M, I, I'D LIKE TO READ THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD'S JOB TO MAKE A MOTION AND READ THE NUMBER OUT LOUD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE FIFTH BULLET UP ON THE CUPOLA IS THAT EVEN IN HERE, THIS WHICH ONE? THE DOME, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE CUPOLA ON THE, ON THE SUBMITTAL.
THAT WOULD, THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY.
WHERE IT SAYS THE CONTRACT PROVIDE AND INSTALL 16 OUNCE COPPER DOME MATCH SCENE.
THEN IT SAYS ARROW TO BE REUSED IF POSSIBLE.
WHAT'S THE ARROW? THERE'S AN ARROW.
YEAH, THE WEATHER VAN OF COURSE.
IS IT, IS IT EXISTING THERE NOW? YES.
SO WHAT'S THE OPTION IF IT CAN'T BE REUSED, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE IT OFF? WELL THEY, IT SAYS IF REPLACEMENT NEEDED PRICE IS TO BE DETERMINED ARROW TO BE, THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THAT'S IN THE REST, THIS RESTORATION.
WHERE, WHERE THE SECOND TO LAST, THE LAST ARROW TO BE REUSED IF POSSIBLE.
IF REPLACEMENT NEEDED PRICE IS TO BE DETERMINED.
SO REUSE, MEANING THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT DOWN AND THEN PUT IT BACK.
IF REPLACEMENT IS NEEDED, THEN THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
IS THAT, IS THAT MY, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? UM, I THINK EITHER WAY.
I THINK EITHER WAY IT'S GOING BACK.
IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN RESTORE WHAT'S THERE.
I'M GOOD WITH THE CONDITION NOTED.
UH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION 2 6 0 0 3 9 8, UH, AS PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE ANCHORS ON THE SYSTEM SCAFFOLD BE MADE INTO THE MORTAR AND NOT THE JOINTS, NOT THE STONE.
I MEAN YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN THAT FROM, HOW DID YOU ALREADY GET THAT WHEN, CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION.
THE, THE ON THE CONDITION THAT THE SYSTEM SCAFFOLD BE, IF IT IS ANCHORED, IT'D BE ANCHORED INTO MORTAR JOINTS AND NOT THE STONE.
AND WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION? I, I'M, I'M, WHERE I'M SPEAKING MY, MY, MY ASSISTANT IS PRESENTING.
MAYBE WHY DON'T YOU WRITE IT DOWN AND THEN MAKE A MOTION MAYBE.
JUST A SUGGESTION BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE THE MOTION.
ON THE CONDITION THAT THE SYSTEM SCAFFOLD, RIGHT.
IF ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING, THOSE ANCHORS RIGHT.
BE PLACED IN MORTAR JOINTS AND NOT THE STONE.
AND LONG ASSEMBLY THAT THOSE HOLES BE PATCHED.
WITH AN APPROPRIATE COLOR MATCHED MARK.
WE APPROVE APPLICATION 2 6 0 0 3 9 8 ON THE CONDITION THAT THE SYSTEM SCAFFOLD IF ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING, THOSE ANCHORS BE PLACED IN THE MORTAR JOINTS AND NOT THE STONE.
AND UPON DISASSEMBLY, THE HOLES BE PATCHED WITH AN APPROPRIATE COLOR MATCHED MORTAR.
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NEED A SECOND? I SECOND.BEFORE YOU ADJOURN, THE MILL MAIN STREET MILL HAS THE ELEVATOR EQUIPMENT BOX ON TOP.
PENTHOUSE, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
IS THAT ONE ON THE CORNER OF ER AND BIG'S MILL? THE MILL, THE RESTAURANT UP HERE.
SHERIFFS PARKING LOT WITH THE TRAIN STATION.
UM, SO IT IS A LIFE SAFETY HAZARD ISSUE THAT THE OWNER CAME TO US, HE'S HAD AN ENGINEER LOOK AT IT, THEY DEEMED IT A LIFE SAFETY, UH, ISSUE.
AND IF YOU ACTUALLY COME DOWN MAIN STREET FROM COMMERCE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S LEANING.
WELL, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, UM,
SO WHEN IT IS AN IMMEDIATE SAFETY ISSUE, IT DOES NOT COME TO THE BOARD.
IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE TO REMOVE IT.
SO HIS GOAL IS TO REMOVE IT AS IS, WHICH PROBABLY IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SET IT ON THE GROUND AND THEN YOU ALL CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND HE CAN ONE OF YOUR PRE-PLANNING MEETINGS.
IF YOU'LL ALLOW HIM TO REBUILD IT AND HOW ET CETERA.
HE WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE IT OFF AND REROOF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE AND NOT PUT IT BACK.
BUT JOHN AND I, YOU CAN GET RID OF THE ELEVATOR ENTIRELY.
THEY DON'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING.
THIS IS THE ELEVATOR EQUIPMENT SHAFT.
I'VE BEEN IN THERE MANY TIMES.
SO I MEAN, IT'S A CHEMICAL SCREW WITH A, NO, IT'S A CABLE AND A MOTOR AT THE TOP.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A GRAIN, IT'S A BIG WOODEN TIMBER BOX WITH NO DOOR ON THE FRONT.
AND IF YOU HANG YOUR FOOT OFF THE END AND YOU GO PAST ONE OF THE BEAMS, IT SNAPS YOUR FOOT OFF.
WHICH I CAN
AND REROOF THE, AND THEN WHEN HE CAME INTO THE MEETING AND MET WITH JOHN AND LAUREN AND MYSELF WERE LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE APPROVED.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY PROMINENT YEAH.
UM, EITHER WAY, THE THE THE GOAL IS TO DISASSEMBLE IT OR TAKE IT OFF IN ONE PIECE IF POSSIBLE AND GET IT ON THE GROUND AND THEN REBUILD IT OR REPLACE IT.
IF IT CAN BE REBUILT, HE WILL HAVE IT REBUILT.
IF IT HAS TO BE TOTALLY REPLACED.
WHAT'S THAT ASKING? THE INTER IT'S THE INTERFACE OF THE ROOF THAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE STRUCTURE THAT'S SITTING ON TOP OF THE ROOF, WHICH IS BAD.
IT'S THE POSTS THAT PENETRATE THE ROOF ARE THAT'S CAUSING IT TO SET AND PROPERLY FLASHED.
THEY'VE JUST GOT TAR SLAPPED ALL OVER 'EM.
AND AND IT'S LEAKING INSIDE THE THIRD FLOOR AS WELL.
IT'S THE TRUSS SYSTEM OF THE ACTUAL ROOF.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE METAL PANELS ON THE ROOF, THEY'RE ALL BUCKLED UP.
ALMOST ALL OF 'EM ARE BUCKLED.
WHICH IS AN INDICATION THAT EVERYTHING'S WHILING AROUND.
SO WHAT ABOUT ASKING HIM TO DOCUMENT THAT BEFORE HE TAKE IT DOWN? BECAUSE IT COMES DOWN IN PIECES.
SO, SO I EMAILED COLIN LAST WEEK TO DO THE DRONES FLY AROUND AND HE DID THAT AND THEN SENT, I MEAN WHEN I SAY DOCUMENTING, LIKE PUTTING SOME MEASURING TAPE ON IT.
UM, BUT WE WANTED, WE JUST WANTED PICTURES IN CASE IT CRUMBLED.
AND THE BUILDING'S BEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE FIRES.
SO BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION, THE CONDITION, UH, THERE'S NOTHING DOCUMENTED.
SO OUR ASSUMPTION IS IT'S FROM THE 80 WHATEVER FIRE MM-HMM
IT WAS REBUILT AS THE PLYWOOD BOX THAT IT IS TODAY.
I DON'T WAS THERE, THERE WAS MULTIPLE FIRES THERE.
SO THERE'S, WAS THERE SOMETHING THERE BEFORE THOUGH? OR THERE NEVER WAS THAT STRUCTURE UP THERE BEFORE THE EIGHTIES? NO, IT WAS, IT IS ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN ALWAYS BEEN OKAY.
SOME TYPE OF GRAIN ELEVATOR BOX OR ENCLOSURE.
UM, BUT THROUGH THE FI AND THERE'S NO, IN THE OR IN THE SURVEY, THERE'S NO KIND OF PHOTOS OR ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE OR HOW IT WAS, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY THEY JUST MADE A PLYWOOD,
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WHITE PLYWOOD BOX AND PUT IT BACK UP THERE.'CAUSE YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE UNDERLYING LIKE TIMBERS THAT SITTING ON PRETTY OLD MIGHT BE ORIGINAL AND THEY JUST REBUILT, YOU KNOW, STICK BUILT.
SHED ON TOP OF THE OLD TIMBERS SET IT UP THERE.
I MEAN, UH, SOME OF THE METALS ULA SOME OF THE METALS FROM A, UM, A MODEL TANK 10 HOUSE.
UM, SHAME THEY'RE NOT GONNA USE THAT ELEVATOR ANYMORE.
SO OUR BEST, YOU KNOW, EXPLANATION TO HIM IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REBUILD IT OR BUILD A WHOLE NEW ONE AND THEN SET IT BACK UP THERE AND REATTACH THAT.
YOU ALL ARE NOT GONNA ALLOW JUST THE TOTAL DEMO DEMOLITION AND LEAVE IT THAT WAY.
I MEAN, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S SOME OTHER IT IS, I MEAN IT'S A, IT'S UM, MAYBE I HAVE TO PULL IT UP ON, UH, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A SQUARE ISH PENTHOUSE.
IS IT FLAT ROOF? PYRAMIDAL SLANT SHED.
IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE HIP ROOF.
AND UM, THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP NOW IS SO THAT YOU REALIZE AND KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN, YOU WE'RE NOT GONNA CALL YOU, HEY, THAT DIDN'T COME TO THE BAR.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THEY'RE DEMOING THAT PART IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION IT'S IN AND THE THE HAZARD THAT IT IS, IT'S JUST GOTTA COME DOWN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND JOHN APPROVED HIS PERMIT TODAY TO DO AND HIS GOAL IS NOT TO JUST DESTROY IT AND HOPE TO NOT DO IT.
HE'S, HE'S OPEN TO DO WHATEVER.
I MEAN I THINK YOU ADVISED HIM WELL, BUT UNTIL TO MY, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD TO MY MIND, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD NOTICE IF IT WAS THERE OR NOT.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY COOL.
I I THINK YOU'RE MISSING BOARD MEMBER WOULD AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE COMMERCE STREET SIDE.
YOU CAN SEE REALLY GOOD FROM HIS DRONE PAPER
AND WE CAN FORWARD THOSE TO YOU ALL TOO, THAT WE JUST WANTED TO DOCUMENT IT AND BEFORE IT WAS REMOVED AND THEN EVERY, NOBODY DID.
WHEN YOU SAY HE'S TAKING IT OFF, I MEAN IT LOOKS, LOOKS A LOT LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A 1920S MODEL T GARAGE AND IT COULD BE, RIGHT? I MEAN IT'S JUST SOME OF THE METAL CHANNEL CAME FROM A MODEL T ACCORDING TO THE HISTORIC SURVEY.
SO, UM, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS AFTER THE RIGHT 1920.
TWO FIRE BECAUSE OF THE MODEL T, UM, SHOP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER FIRE IN 80 SOMETHING TO THAT BUILDING.
IT'S BEEN THROUGH LIKE THREE AT LEAST.
HERE'S ALL, OKAY, SO THE REAL PROBLEM IS, IS SETTING IT RIGHT AND THERE'S, THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE SETTING IT BACK WHEN IT'S BEEN REBUILT.
WELL DOING IT IN A WAY THAT THAT LIKE LEADS, IT LEAVES THE REST OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS.
THE MAIN THING IS IF IT DOES GO BACK UP, IT HAS TO BE, THE ROOF HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THAT'S HIS BIGGEST CONCERN WITH ALL OF IT IS IT'S THOSE PENETRATIONS LEAKING THROUGH AND CAUSING DAMAGE.
SEE, I, I MEAN TO BE JUST IN, IN THE CHECKLIST I'M GONNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE FACT IS THAT THAT BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT AS AN ELEVATOR.
AND SO THE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS NOW A RESTAURANT, WE STILL CARE THAT IT HAD BEEN AN ELEVATOR AND WE'RE GOING TO CARE THAT IT EXPRESSES ITS ELEVATOR READINESS.
SO JUST TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT AND CONSIDERING OKAY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A HEADS UP.
IT CAME DOWN WONDERFUL ADVICE.
IS IT ACTUALLY THE THING UNDERNEATH THE PLATFORM UNDERNEATH IS THE STRUCTURE, IT'S THE WAY IT'S TIED INTO THE ROOF.
SO I MEAN THESE POSTS, WHATEVER THAT CONNECTION IS UNDERNEATH THE METAL, BUT IF IT GOES UP WITH THE SAWS ALL RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW RIGHT, RIGHT AT THAT LEVEL.
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CUT IT DOWN AND LET IT SLIDE OFF THERE.WELL I'M HOPING THERE'S A CRANE LIFTING IT OFF AND LANDS SOFTLY.
UH, I I THINK FROM A ROOF REPAIR AND PREVENT FROM LEAKING EVER AGAIN.
THAT'S WHY WE JUST WON'T PUT ANYTHING BACK UP THERE.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT WAS HIS MINDSET OF RIGHT.
THAT THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR ANY KIND OF LEAK OR SURE.
THAT HE, HE COULD MAKE A CASE THAT HE'S BETTER PROTECTING THE BUILDING BY NOT PUTTING IT BACK.
UM, THE WHOLE REST OF THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT THIS IS HOW THE HISTORIC FEATURES OF A TOWN GO MISSING PIECE BY PIECE BY PIECE INCH BY INCH.
AND THERE IS A WAY TO PROPERLY FLASH THAT WHERE IT WOULD LEAK.
SO HE'S AWARE THOUGH, COMING INTO THE BOARD THAT IT'S NOT LIKELY IT JUST DISAPPEARS.
THE BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF MAINE AND ROYAL THAT'S GOT THE FLOWERS IN THE WINDOW AND IT'S GOT A, SOMETHING ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ELEVATOR.
WHAT
UH, BUT I I BUT IT'S UBER, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING IN THE WHOLE YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE HALLWAY INSIDE.
THEY JUST REBUILT THAT LAST YEAR DIGS.
THAT WAS TO FIT WITHIN THEIR ONE YEAR WINDOW.
OH, THEY'RE OUTSIDE THEIR WINDOW.
WE'RE WE ADDRESS THAT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE HAS EXPIRED.
UM, WELL, UM, YES, THAT, UH, THIS FEELS RIGHT.
THAT CONVERSATION, UH, FEELS VERY RIGHT.
I TOLD 'EM TO GO TO HELMA AND BUY S**T AND JUST SET IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GOT A REALLY, IF THEY GOT THE RIGHT SHED, UH, IT COULD WORK.
THEY COULD TURN IT INTO AN ACTUAL PENTHOUSE AND RUN, UM, AIRBNB, AN OFFICE.
THEY'D HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE.
IT'S NOT 600 SQUARE FEET, BUT YEAH.
ALRIGHT, I MOVE A ADUR SECOND.