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IS IT RIGHT? YEP.[Town Council Work Session on June 8, 2026.]
OKAY.I'M GONNA CALL ORDER THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION FOR MONDAY, JUNE 8TH.
AND MS. HAN, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL FIRST? MAYOR FRA HERE.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE, UM, WE, I DON'T, WE AREN'T GONNA, UNTIL WE GO TO THE CLOSED MEETING, WILL WE HAVE THE CHANGE, RIGHT? YES.
DID YOU I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S BEST JUST TO DO IT UP FRONT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE CHANGE TO THE CLOSED MEETING TO THAT ITEM.
SO JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, OUR CLOSED MEETING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE ITEMS ON IT TONIGHT, BUT THREE ITEMS VERSUS FOUR.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR EXCEPT FOR THERE'S THE THIRD ONE.
THERE'S TWO ITEMS IN INCLUDED FOR LEGAL DISCUSSION.
SO THE FIRST ONE WILL BE THE DISCUSSION OF REAL PROPERTY AT 15 NORTH ROYAL.
THE SECOND ITEM WILL BE DISCUSSING PERSONNEL.
SPECIFICALLY TO CLERK COUNSEL.
NUMBER THREE WILL BE LEGAL MATTERS REGARDING THE, UM, PILOT MEALS, LODGING, AND PROPOSED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR JOINT TOUR.
SORRY, I JUST SAW THREE, THREE A AND B ALL.
AND YOU MIGHT JUST ASK IF THERE'S ANY, ANY OBJECTION TO ADDING THAT.
ASK COUNSEL IF ANYONE OBJECTS.
DOES ANYONE OBJECT TO ADDING THOSE TO THE CLOSED MEETING? NO.
THE FIRST THING IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND MS. PRESLEY'S GONNA BE DOING THAT.
SO, UH, IN OUR CURRENT FOIA POLICY, IT SPECIFICALLY LISTS PERSONNEL, UM, ONE BEING TINA, THE OTHER BEING REBECCA GALLAGHER AT THE FRONT WORLD POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING STRIKING THAT FROM THE POLICY.
IT IS LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND IT IS REQUIRED THAT WE HOST.
SO RATHER THAN PUTTING SPECIFIC NAMES IN THE POLICY, WE'VE JUST REMOVED THAT.
UM, IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED AS WELL THAT WE CAN ALSO REFERENCE PEOPLE TO THE STATE WEBSITE, WHICH LISTS ALL THE FOIA OFFICERS.
SO THE IDEA IS JUST ELIMINATE HAVING A NAME AND A SPECIFIC EMAIL IN THE POLICY.
'CAUSE THAT CAN OBVIOUSLY CHANGE AND THEN WE'RE NOT HAVING TO CHANGE POLICY.
ANY, ANY OBJECTION SON? YOU ALL ERASE FINISH CONSENT WORKS.
I HAD ALL, I HAD TWO TWO B, YOU WERE YOUR LAST TWO.
B IS THE DED OF EASEMENT RIGHT AWAY FROM ROBERT AND VIVIAN LAKE TOWN FRONT.
WELL CONTINUED ACCESS SERVING TEXT MAP NUMBER 12 DASH 41 DASH ONE AND LOCATIONS OF THE GUARD HILL WATER TANK.
UM, SO THERE'S AN EXISTING 25 FOOT EASEMENT THAT WE'VE USED TO ACCESS THE WATER TANK UP ON GUARD HILL ROAD.
UH, MR. LAKE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NEW ACCESS TO HIS PROPERTY, AN ADJACENT PROPERTY UP THERE.
AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY VDOT TO COMBINE THOSE SHARE THAT USE IN THAT ENTRANCE BECAUSE OF SITE DISTANCE.
UH, HE'S BEEN MADE AWARE THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO DO ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.
HE'S HELPED PROVIDE THE DEED, WHICH HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL, BUT THIS IS TO JUST SHIFT IT FURTHER OVER TO MEET THE FEED DOT, UH, SPECIFICATIONS FOR A SHARED USE ENTRANCE.
UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS, IS IN SUPPORT OF IT.
VDOT HAS AGREED TO THIS LOCATION.
NOW IT'S JUST THE FORMALITY OF ACTUALLY APPROVING THE DEED AND THE PLAT TO GO WITH IT.
AND
THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT UP THERE AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT ALL THAT WORK OUT SINCE NOT AN ISSUE.
I DON'T ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I'LL JUST ADD THAT THE GRANTOR PROPERTY OWNERS AGREED TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
THE SURVEY, THE PREPARATION, UH, CONSTRUCTION, AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA MAINTAIN.
THAT LOOKS LIKE WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
TWO C ADIDA IS EASEMENT FOR BALD DRIVE LLC TO THE TOWN FOR PUBLIC WATER LINE EASEMENT SERVING LOT SIX STEVENS INDUSTRIAL PARK TAX MAP NUMBER FIVE C DASH SIX MR. PETTY.
SO THIS IS THE 23 ACRE PROPERTY THERE ON BALL DRIVE OWNED
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BY TOTAL DEVELOPMENT CENTER.WELL BALL DRIVE LLC AND THIS IS TO PUT IN A 20 FOOT, UH, UTILITY EASEMENT TO INSTALL THE VAULTS ON THE PROPERTY AS MR UH, NOT, I MENTIONED EARLIER WE DON'T OWN THE ROADS OUT THERE, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE HAVE EASEMENTS IN THE CORE.
THEY, YOU LOOK AT THE PLAS, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE VAULTS FOR THE TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AS WELL.
SO THIS MEET BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE DEVELOPED OR THE BUILDING, THEY'RE, IT'S IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT THERE NOW THAT'S, THEY'RE WORKING ON THEM NOW ALREADY.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS FOR A CONSTRUCTION LAY DOWN AREA FOR LANDSCAPING AND EXCAVATION COMPANY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ITEM? OKAY.
UM, AND THEN 2D AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 7, 2 2 SPECIAL EVENTS HELD ON TOWN STREET PUBLIC PROPERTY.
AND MR. PETTY, THAT IS YOU, ALTHOUGH THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
SO THIS, IT SAYS NEW BUSINESS BUT WHY DID I THINK WE HAD ALREADY? THAT'S OLD.
SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT EITHER.
THE PRICES AND EVERYTHING SENT IT BACK.
SO YEAH, THIS WAS, YEAH, THIS WAS SENT BACK IN MARCH.
WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 23RD BECAUSE IT'S NOT LAND USE, IT WAS JUST REFERRED BACK TO A FUTURE WORK SESSION TO REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING TO STAY OPEN ANY OF THAT.
UM, NO, WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT SOONER, BUT IF YOU RECALL FOLLOWING THIS, WE HAD A PRETTY BIG SPECIAL EVENT IN APRIL AND BUDGETS AND STUFF.
SO KIND OF IT, IT DIDN'T END UP GETTING AS SOON AS WE WANTED TO AS A PRIORITY BACK TO YOU ALL.
HOWEVER, WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND WE PROVIDED SOME APPROXIMATE NUMBERS HERE IN THE COVER SHEET FOR YOU.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE REACH OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS POLICE DEPARTMENT ENERGY SERVICES.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY TRACKING EACH EVENT, UM, THAT WAS JUST THE SETUP.
A LOT OF THIS IS APPROXIMATE ON TIME AND INVOICES.
SO 2025, THERE WERE 38 EVENTS APPROXIMATELY.
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER ONES HERE AND THERE, BUT THIS WAS THE MAIN EVENTS.
THROUGH THE CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE WE'VE COLLECTED $5,700.
UM, BUT THEN IT BREAKS DOWN FROM WHAT WE COULD TELL IN APPROXIMATION OF WHAT EACH DEPARTMENT SPENT IN SALARY AND TIME, UM, TOTALING $36,000.
YOU KNOW, THIS DOES, ONE THING THIS DOES INCLUDE IS LIZZIE'S TIME.
UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN AT ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
AND AGAIN, WE DO HAVE SOME EVENTS WHERE WE WEREN'T TRULY ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR ANYBODY'S TIME.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE SHORT.
THE NEW FEES APPLYING WHAT THAT NEW FEE STRUCTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, IT WOULD BRING IN $14,000.
SO WE'RE STILL ABOUT HALF, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF HALF, UM, OF WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE INVESTING IN THIS.
IN ADDITION TO THE FEES, AS I EXPLAINED, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE FEE SCHEDULE, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS WHAT THE THREE, WELL WE HAD TWO PUBLIC SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT THE FEES.
THE THIRD ONE TALKED ABOUT SCHEDULING, UM, OF THE THREE UM, SPEAKERS.
AND IT'S ALSO A SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN SPEND $250 AND CLOSE THE ROAD FOR 10 HOURS FOR THE DAY AND MULTIPLE ROAD CLOSURES AND BARRICADES AND ET CETERA.
YOU KNOW, IF WE BEGIN TO APPLY THIS METRIC OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED 10 OFFICERS ALL DAY LONG, YOU KNOW THAT'S AN EXPENSE.
AND THESE ARE TYPICALLY OFFICERS ON OVERTIME BECAUSE WE CAN'T PULL FROM PATROL.
AND SO MAYBE WE START THINKING ABOUT HOW LONG THESE EVENTS ARE AND THE IMPACTS OF THESE EVENTS ON MAIN STREET, ET CETERA.
UM, IF IT'S A FOOD EVENT, HOW MUCH TRASH ARE YOU GENERATING? A LOT MORE MAYBE THAN OTHERS.
SO WE'RE USING MORE PUBLIC WORK RESOURCES THAN AN EVENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE FOOD SERVICE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO HAVING THIS MECHANISM TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THESE EVENT PRODUCERS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO DO, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FINE TUNE SOME OF THAT PRICING AND TIGHTEN UP THAT WINDOW IN WHICH WE'RE NOT UTILIZING AS MANY RESOURCES AS WE HAVE TO.
AND ALSO HELP, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS IS BRINGING IN LIZZIE AND HELP THEM MARKET AND PROGRAM THEIR EVENTS.
SO MAYBE THEY'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE AND GENERATING MORE PEOPLE AND ALSO REVENUE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A FEE ELEMENT TO IT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS, WHAT WOULD THOSE FEES GO TO? WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT'S TO HELP OFFSET THE COSTS,
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BUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT MORE AND WE PURCHASE SOME OF THEM IS, YOU KNOW, THE WATER, WATER-FILLED BARRICADES.OR EVEN LOOKING FURTHER AT SOME OF THE MORE METAL BOLLARDS THAT GO IN THAT ARE MORE SEMI-PERMANENT.
'CAUSE THE WATER BOLLARD OR WATER BARRICADE, JUST FILL 'EM UP AND DRAIN 'EM.
AND THAT CAN ALSO BE WASTEFUL.
BUT WE'VE SEEN AT RECENT EVENTS THAT WE WANT TO BE VERY MINDFUL IN OUR SECURITY PRESENCE THAT WE DON'T WANT VEHICLES DRIVING OUT ON EVENTS WHEN THEY, MAYBE THEY'RE CLOSING EARLIER, SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE STILL ACTIVE.
SO WE COULD USE SOME OF THESE RESOURCES TO HELP US BUY BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE IT SAFER.
AND THE OTHER CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE ALSO SEEN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PERFECT MORE, BUT THERE IS AN EXPENSE TIED TO THAT IS HOW WE NOTIFY PEOPLE THROUGH SIGNAGE.
AND I THINK PD AND OUR EVENT STAFF HAVE FOUND OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD DO BETTER SIGNAGE OR NOTIFICATION IN THESE ZONES RATHER THAN JUST THE ZIP TIE, VELCRO, NO PARKING SIGNS THAT ARE SOMETIMES TOUGH TO SEE.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THOSE THINGS COST MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ONE-TIME COST OF BUYING THESE SIGNS.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKELY BE USING SOME OF THESE FUNDS INITIALLY IS TO HELP BUILD UP SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE USE FOR THESE EVENTS.
AS YOU'VE SEEN THESE, THE WOODEN BARRICADES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO REPAIR THEM OVER TIME.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALSO JUST TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
AND THEN I JUST ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE SCHEDULE.
ONE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.
WE, I LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE, THE QUESTION WAS IS THEY COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT WHEN THEY NEED TO APPLY AND HOW MUCH TIME.
I THINK WE DO REALIZE WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE ON SMALLER EVENTS.
ONES THAT DON'T CLOSE STREETS, WE CAN, I DON'T NEED AS MUCH LEAD TIME, BUT THE OTHER ONES WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING ENOUGH TIME TO PLAN FOR THEM IF THERE'S CHANGES.
AND THEN SO WE CAN HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF AT THESE EVENTS AND WALK THROUGH THEM.
SO IT'S LOOKING BACK AS WHEN YOU PLAN TO HAVE YOUR EVENT AND THEN WORKING BACK FROM THAT DATE AND HOW YOU FIT IN THE SYSTEM.
SO WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE AT A SET TIME.
THINK OF IT LIKE PLANNING COMMISSION OR EVEN MISS BUY.
IF YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION YOU WANT TO GET IN YOUR LAND USE OR YOUR SHORT TERM RELATIVE, YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROCESS TO IT.
SO YOU HAVE TO WORK BACK FROM THAT.
AND IF THE SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE MET THE FIRST MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO GET YOUR APPLICATION INTO THEM TO HAVE ADEQUATE TIME THEN TO HAVE YOUR NOTICE AND GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS BEFORE YOUR EVENT IN 30 DAYS, 20 DAYS, WHATEVER THAT IS.
WE WILL BUILD THAT BACK AND SHOW PEOPLE AND HAVE A CALENDAR BUILT OUT EVERY YEAR THAT IF THE SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE MEETS THE FIRST SANE MONDAY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT DATE IS.
IN ORDER FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR EVENT ON X DATE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR APPLICATION IN BY THIS DATE, GET IT TO SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE AND THEN HAVE IT APPROVED SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHEN THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE DUE.
AND WHAT I LOOKED AT IS SIMILAR TO THE FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, THE LONGER YOU HA IF, IF YOU'RE BRINGING YOUR EVENT TO US 45 DAYS, 60 DAYS AHEAD OF TIME AND WE'RE DOING IT AND IT GETS TO LIZZIE'S TEAM, THEY'RE PROMOTING IT LONGER.
SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL PERCEPTION IS PEOPLE KNOW THIS EVENT'S COMING.
SO WE'RE ALSO MARKETING IT LONGER IF YOU'RE EXPECTING TO PUT ON A, IF YOU'RE EXPECT TO JUST TURNING YOUR APPLICATION 30 DAYS BEFORE AN EVENT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF EVENT IS THAT FOR DOWNTOWN.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE CLOSING, ARE YOU REALLY BRINGING, YOU KNOW, THAT COMMERCIAL INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, BRINGING OR IS IT JUST MORE COMMUNITY GATHERING? SO WE'LL BE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE AT THE SCHEDULE, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL IS THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT SET SCHEDULE SO PEOPLE KNOW THE EXPECTATION GOING INTO IT AS THEY APPLY.
SO WITH THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE'VE SHARED WHAT KIND OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE RECOVERED FUNDS LAST YEAR FROM THE EVENT.
BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN IT'S, WE BROUGHT IN 5,700 APPROXIMATELY AND IT COST US JUST IN FROM WHAT WE COULD TELL, 36,000 IN THAT.
SO ON THOSE RANGE FROM WINE FESTIVALS TO SMALLER PROCESSIONS, JUST GAZEBO GATHERINGS.
BUT ALL THESE THINGS ADD UP OVER TIME AND YOU KNOW, OUR EXPENSES ARE GOING UP AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COVER EVERY DOLLAR, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DO FEEL LIKE IT JUST ADDS SOME ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BOTH US AND THE EVENT PRODUCERS.
I KNOW WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS POLICY,
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UM, AND IT WAS, I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS OUR FIRST YEAR ON COUNCIL WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER WE WERE CLOSING THE STREETS FOR, YOU KNOW, COVID AND THINGS LIKE THAT.AND SO THEN IT BECAME A HOT TOPIC FOR A WHILE THERE.
UM, AND SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT IT HONESTLY WASN'T, IT WASN'T ABOUT THE COST FACTOR AS MUCH AS IT WAS ABOUT LIKE, WHEN IS IT APPROPRIATE TO CLOSE THE STREET OR WHEN IS IT APPROPRIATE TO JUST CLOSE THE GAZEBO PARKING LOT? AND AND A LOT OF THAT WAS BEING DRIVEN BY BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET BECAUSE THEY FELT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY HAD VALID CONCERNS THAT OKAY, IF YOU'RE CLOSING THE STREET ALL THE TIME, THEN OUR CUSTOMERS CAN'T GET TO IT.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HOLDING THE EVENTS WERE THEIR CONCERNS WERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WELL WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THERE SAFELY.
AND THERE WERE, UM, LIKE MET LIKE, UM, STANDARDS THAT NEEDED TO BE MET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALONG THE LINES OF LIKE, DO YOU ANTICIPATE A HUNDRED PEOPLE WILL BE THERE? DO YOU ANTICIPATE A THOUSAND PEOPLE WILL BE THERE? AND THEN, AND THEY HAD TO PREDICT AND IF IT WAS LIKE A NEW EVENT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SCRUTINIZED BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE LIKE, IS THIS REALLY A, A GOOD STRONG REASON FOR US TO PREVENT ACCESS TO OUR BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET? YOU KNOW, WOULD IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, THAT UM, THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM OR NOT? UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IF IT WAS A REPEAT KIND OF EVENT FESTIVAL, THEN WE HAD IDEAS ABOUT NUMBERS.
LIKE YOU, LIKE EVERYBODY IN HERE KNOWS THE FESTIVAL LEAVES IS GONNA DRAW LOTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE THERE AND THE CRAFT FESTIVAL, MUSHROOM, CRAFT WOOD, ALL KNOW IT'S CALLED LINE OF CRAFT.
UM, BUT UM, JUST LIKE SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO CLOSE MAIN STREET FOR AND THERE WEREN'T A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL TO OUR BUSINESSES THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT COULD IMPACT, UM, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HOPE THAT IT WOULD GIVE THEM MORE FOOT TRAFFIC.
IF IT DIDN'T PRODUCE MORE FOOT TRAFFIC, THEN WAS IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WORTH IT TO THEM, WORTH IT TO US TOO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE DO GET SOME MEALS TAXES FROM IT.
SO, UM, BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T LOOK AT IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE EVEN THEN.
AND SIX YEARS AGO IT WAS PRETTY NEW TO EVEN LOOK AT IT AT THAT TIME BECAUSE I THINK UP UNTIL THEN PEOPLE JUST BOOKED THE GAZEBO OR BOOKED THE, AND THEN I THINK AT THAT TIME THAT THAT POLICY TOOK AWAY ANY, UM, REQUIREMENT TO RESERVE THE GAZEBO.
LIKE THEY, YOU CAN'T RESERVE THE GAZEBO THEN LIKE ANYBODY COULD SHOW UP AND USE THE RELEASE.
THAT WAS THE, I REMEMBER THE PERSON AT THE TIME THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF ALL THIS, THEIR ATTITUDE WAS THE GAZEBO BELONGS TO ALL THE CITIZENS AND TO NOT BE ABLE TO LIKE DENY ANYBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO GO OVER THERE IF THEY WANTED TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE REALLY LIKE USING IT FOR GETTING MARRIED AND STUFF A LOT THEN LIKE IT SEEMED LIKE AT THAT TIME YOU SAW IT QUITE FREQUENTLY.
YOU RODE BY THERE AND SOMEBODY WAS HAVING A WEDDING IN THE CASINO.
SO, UM, BUT DO YOU, THE PUBLIC HEARING, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE, AGAIN, WE ONLY HAD THREE AND MY THOUGHT IS ALWAYS LIKE, THERE'S 16,000 PEOPLE HERE.
IF THERE HAD BEEN MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED, YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT THEY WOULD'VE COME, NOT INTERESTED, BUT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT? 'CAUSE WE DID NOT KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, DID WE? NO.
WE JUST REFERRED IT BACK TO YOU ALL FOR A FUTURE WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS IT.
UM, WELL WE ALSO, I WAS GONNA ASK, DIDN'T WE, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, DIDN'T WE, UM, ENCOURAGE THEM? WE EITHER, I THOUGHT ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET IN TOUCH YOU OR HIM.
YEAH, WE HAVEN'T HEARD, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING DIRECTLY AND OKAY.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS ENCOURAGED THAT THEY GET TOGETHER TO COME BACK WITH FEEDBACK TO EITHER YOU OR TO THE STAFF.
AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING OF, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN MOST OF THEM ARE ALSO BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.
SO IT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE NUMBERS TOGETHER.
I I'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM DIRECTLY AGAIN, LIKE LAST TIME WE SENT IT OUT.
UM, AND SHARE WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, YOU SPEND THIS MUCH NOW, THIS IS WHAT YOUR FUTURE NUMBERS WILL LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN AGAIN, KIND OF WHAT THAT PROCESS IS.
DO YOU, DO YOU REALLY NEED AN EIGHT HOUR EVENT OR COULD YOU ACCOMPLISH THE SAME
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GOAL IN SIX HOURS? YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD REDUCE YOUR COST RIGHT.UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD WE'D LIKE TO ASK.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS YOU MENTIONED THE BIG EVENTS THAT WE KNOW ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING.
UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WILL BE CHARGED THE SAME.
EVERYTHING'S THE SAME, BUT EACH EVENT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS BUT JUST, JUST 'CAUSE THE FESTIVAL LEAVES HAPPENS EVERY YEAR AND THE WINE FESTIVAL HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
OR THIS YEAR I THINK THEY ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL ROAD CLOSURES AND THAT ALSO CREATES IN EACH OTHER.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE WITH THE GROUP AND THESE EVENT ORGANIZERS TO KNOW WHAT THEIR CHANGES ARE.
AND SO WE CAN ALSO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO WE DO FEEL THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'VE HAD YOUR EVENT FOR 50 YEARS OR THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, THE PROCESS WILL BE THE SAME.
SO THE EVENTS THAT WE HELPED SPONSOR MM-HMM
JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, LIKE DO WE, WE DON'T PAY THE FEE.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE IN KIND THE THE TOWN EVENTS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, L PINE DAY IS A TOWN EVENT.
NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS A TOWN EVENT.
IT SHOULD BE EXPECTED OF THAT IS, WE'RE NOT CHARGING OURSELF BUT SPONSORED EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY SPONSORED.
I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO PAY THE FEE UNLESS IT WAS PART OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, ONGOING SPONSORSHIP, WHICH SOME OF THESE EVENTS WE'VE DONE FOR YEARS, BUT IT HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR SOMEWHERE.
AND SOME OF THAT SPONSORSHIP WE'VE BEEN DOING RECENTLY IS MORE JOINT MARKETING EFFORTS VERSUS JUST CASH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S MORE OF MARKETING THEIR EVENT THROUGH DISCOVER FROM ROYAL TO FROM KIND OF GIVE US BOTH THAT WIN-WIN BENEFIT.
THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS, SO WHOEVER IS APPLYING FOR THIS EVENT OR THIS THING, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT GOING TO BE TO LET THE BUSINESSES KNOW? BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT WAS ACTUALLY A MAJOR THING THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST SPRING.
IT'S IN THERE THAT IT WILL BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY STILL.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITH TECHNOLOGY, I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER.
UM, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT WAYS TO NOTIFY THEM.
WE'D LIKE TO CREATE, AND THIS IS KIND OF MY THOUGHT, IS WE WOULD CREATE MORE OF A FORM LETTER THAT IS COMING IN A WAY THAT WHEN A BUSINESSES GET THEM, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
OKAY, THIS IS AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, NOTICE.
SO WHEN IT HITS THEIR, IT IS DROPPED OFF OR IT HITS THEIR, THEY KNOW IT'S AN EVENT NOTICE, SO THEY SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THE DETAILS ARE AND HOW WE LIST THAT ON THERE.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE GETTING DIFFERENT WAYS OF COMMUNICATION, YOU'RE NOT GONNA REALLY KNOW.
BUT IF IT'S CONSISTENT IN HOW THAT MESSAGING LOOKS AND FEELS AND HOW YOU RECEIVE IT, PEOPLE WILL BE MORE INCLINED TO LIKE LOOK AS LIKE, OH, THERE'S A NEW EVENT.
THIS IS HOW THIS, AND THEN WE'VE TALKED TO LIKE RACE PROMOTERS WHO MIGHT COVER A LARGE AREA.
THEY CAN'T NOTIFY EVERYBODY ALONG A FIVE MILE RACE OR SOMETHING.
SO TRYING TO FIND BETTER WAYS OF, MAYBE IT'S LIKE THE ELECTION STYLE SIGNS WITH LIKE A QR CODE THAT'S CONSISTENT THAT COULD LINK TO OUR WEBSITE THAT WOULD SHOW THERE'S AN EVENT ON THIS STREET.
YOU, YOU, YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION IF YOU CLICK GO TO THIS PLACE.
SO, UM, TO HIT MORE PEOPLE WITH JUST A GREAT, RATHER THAN GOING DOOR TO DOOR FOR A FIVE MILE LOOP OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE CONSEQUENCE IF THEY DON'T? SO AS PART OF THIS IN THE SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE, THERE'S AN AFTER ACTION REPORT, UM, THAT THE COMMITTEE, SINCE THE COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING REGULARLY AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING, THEY'LL BE GOING OVER IT.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE GETTING THAT FEEDBACK.
AND IF YOU VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE, THEN YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN EVENT NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONSEQUENCES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THAT'S, I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THE WORDING MM-HMM
SO WHEN THEY FILE THE APPLICATION THAT THEY RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE BUSINESS IS ON MAIN STREET OR FINDING IT OUT FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE STREET'S GONNA GET CLOSED AND THEY WEREN'T PREPARED FOR IT, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S IN THE BUSINESS AND IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE AN EMAIL CAN.
SO IF IT WAS I THINK A NEWER BUSINESS THAT MAY, I MEAN WE SEND, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY EMAILS TO OUR CONTACT LISTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC AND YOU KNOW, NEW AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, PEOPLE COME AND GO MANAGERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE CHANGE AND JUST TRYING TO KEEP THOSE.
SO IT WILL CONSISTENTLY ALWAYS PROBABLY BE A CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE NOT OBVIOUSLY GONNA REACH EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL BE ABLE TO PERFECT.
AND BY MEETING CONSISTENTLY WITH THE GROUP, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
DON'T FORGET THIS IS HOW YOU, YOU KNOW, ALRIGHT.
HOW ARE YOU NOTIFYING THEM? WHEN DO YOU NOTIFYING THEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE AROUND THAT TABLE? THAT WILL BE A LIVE MEETING.
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SO WITH THAT COMMITTEE, THEY, THEY'LL UH, SEE THAT THEY WILL NEED THAT.OH, IT'S NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THE BUSINESS DEALING WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE CHECKLIST ITEMS THAT THEY, WELL HOPEFULLY BEING AT THAT TABLE WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THAT SOME WAY, WHETHER IT'S GUIDANCE OR YOU KNOW, NOTIFICATION.
BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY ABOUT GOING THROUGH THE LIST AND WE WILL, THAT'S NOT PERFECT.
WE'LL WE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE PERFECTING THIS AS WE GO ALONG IF IT'S ADOPTED AND UM, BUT WE JUST THINK GETTING PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE DISCUSSING THIS, HAVING IT ON A TIMELINE, HAVING A TRUE PROCESS THROUGH IT THAT'S OPEN MORE, THAT HOPEFULLY WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE HAD THREE SPEAKERS, TWO OF THEM SPOKE ABOUT THE COSTS.
WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU THE BREAKDOWN.
IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, WE DEFINITELY HAVE.
I'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS FROM BUSINESS OWNERS.
I KNOW LAST YEAR SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE FALL IS OUR PEAK SEASON AS A COMMUNITY.
AND EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND THROUGHOUT PEAK SEASON, MAIN STREET WAS CLOSED FOR AN EVENT EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND THROUGHOUT LIKE OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER, THE LAST WEEKEND OF SEPTEMBER.
EVERY WEEKEND IN OCTOBER AND I THINK THE FIRST WEEKEND IN NOVEMBER.
SO LIKE, ARE WE GONNA BE MINDFUL OF, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES ONLY SURVIVE THE YEAR BASED ON THE FALL FOLIAGE.
WE'RE DEFINITELY MINDFUL OF IT.
WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW TO DISCUSS THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ITS IMPACT ON THE BUSINESSES, ITS IMPACT ON US.
THEY WERE LOCAL EVENTS THOUGH, WHICH IS MY CONCERN.
IT WASN'T STUFF THAT WAS FOR TAURUS.
SO LIKE I RAN INTO SOMEBODY LAST YEAR ON MY WAY TO DAILY GRIND WHO WAS LIKE, I CAME HERE TO SHOP LIKE ON MY WAY THROUGH, BUT WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON DOWN HERE? AND LIKE, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TIMES, LIKE EVEN ME, FOR INSTANCE, MY KIDS AND I USED TO ALWAYS PARTICIPATE IN HOMETOWN HALLOWEEN, BUT THAT WENT FROM AN EVENING TO AN ENTIRE DAY IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER.
AND SO LIKE BEING MINDFUL OF THE TIME, LIKE BEING THERE FROM 10 TO SIX OR 11 TO SIX OR WHATEVER IT WAS THIS YEAR.
LIKE THAT'S A LOT FOR OUR TRICK OR TREATING AND HALLOWEEN.
AND BECAUSE IT'S FOR LOCAL PEOPLE, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE.
WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, SOMEBODY SAID TO ME LIKE, WE CATER MORE TO TOURISTS THAN WE DO TO THE LOCAL PEOPLE.
I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD IT TOO WITH WHAT WE DO DOWNTOWN, BUT THE TIMING IS JUST TERRIBLE.
AND THAT'S OTHER WORD, YOU KNOW, WE TALK, ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY OUR PD STAFF, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE AT ALL OF OUR EVENTS AND IN OCTOBER IT'S NOT ONLY EVENTS BUT THEN THEY'RE DIRECTING TRAFFIC AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A BUSY TIME OF YEAR.
SO WE'RE ALSO JUST BEING MINDFUL OF DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT DEMAND MM-HMM
UM, IN ADDITION TO ITS IMPACT.
AND SO I HEAR YOU AND IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE MINDFUL OF IS OUR IMPACT ON THE BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITY WHILE STILL SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL EVENTS AND OUR TOURIST EVENTS.
BUT I SAID OUR, IT'S JUST A BUSY TIME WITH TRAFFIC AND YOU KNOW, OUR CREWS ARE OUT THERE WORKING OVERTIME, MAKING SURE PEOPLE GET THROUGH TOWN SAFE AND EVERYBODY'S UP.
SO WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS EVEN TOMORROW ABOUT TRYING TO MOVE THINGS AROUND OR DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR.
OR JUST CHANGING, CHANGING YOUR ROUTE.
LIKE WE LOVE, WE ALL LOVE MAIN STREET, BUT DO YOU NEED TO USE MAIN STREET OR CAN YOU ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL SOMEWHERE ELSE? UM, AND WE DID THAT RECENTLY.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY ACCOMMODATING.
JOHN'S HAD AN EVENT THAT THEY TRADITIONALLY DID USE MAIN STREET AND WE SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT ITS IMPACT AND THEY ALTERED THEIR PLANS AND ONLY DID IT AT, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT THEIR APPLICATION CHANGED TO JUST BOWMAN PARK AND WE DID CLOSE OAK STREET, BUT IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE CHURCH VIEW WAS, AND IT WORKED OUT WELL.
UM, AND, AND THEY SEEMED TO COME MADE OF IT AS WELL.
SO IT WAS JUST THAT DIALOGUE WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE EVENT AND, AND HOW CAN WE BE MORE ACCOMMODATING TO ALL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND THE ORGANIZERS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STEER PEOPLE MAYBE TO OTHER PLACES OR, UH, THEY KIND OF SPREAD IT AROUND AS WELL.
SO DO YOU ALL, UM, UM, THIS DOESN'T RE THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY NOTHING CHANGED WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE.
IT WAS REALLY LIKE, I WANTED TO GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOW IT'S ON THE WORK SESSION ITEM.
PEOPLE MIGHT HEAR ABOUT IT AND WANT TO REACH OUT NEXT WEEK.
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THIS UP.I MEAN IF YOU WANT TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY MAYBE PEOPLE, WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD A LITTLE BIT MORE AND DO IT IN JULY AND ADOPT IT AT THE REGULAR MEAN JULY 9TH THIS MONTH.
UM, COUNSEL, WHAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE? WHAT WOULD JULY TWO, I WILL SAY THE 22ND, OTHER THAN THE LARGE PUBLIC HEARING WE'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S NOT A HEAVY DUTY.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON THE 22ND.
OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH I ANTICIPATE WILL BE LONG.
BUT I WAS JUST SAYING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS COMING DOWN THE PIPE FOR JULY.
DO YOU, MIGHT I, I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM THE TOWN OR FROM FROM THE BUSINESS.
UH, I KNOW WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO 'EM.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING YET, BUT YEAH, I CONCERN IS THAT IF WE DO SOMETHING AND WE WILL SAY, WELL WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
IT'S LIKE, WELL HERE'S YOUR, NO, YOU DID KNOW, BUT WE DID SEND IT OUT.
BUT I THINK PERCEPTION IS REALITY AND I DON'T THINK THE BUSINESSES, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.
I ACTUALLY THINK THE BUSINESSES WILL BE IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN MORE ABOUT CLOSING THINGS AND IMPACTING THEIR BUSINESSES.
I I ANTICIPATE PEOPLE WHO PLAN THE EVENTS TO BE MORE, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
I I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
IT JUST, I KNOW THE PRESS IS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.
IF SOMEBODY WATCHES THE VIDEO LATER, ANOTHER PAPER MIGHT PRINT REPORT ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT, UM, I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER THEN THAT WAY NO ONE CAN SAY, 'CAUSE THERE'S, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING COMING UP THAT, THE BIG THING WOULD BE FESTIVAL LEAVES.
DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING IN SEPTEMBER AND THE NATIONAL NIGHT ALEX POWER THING, WE HAVE THE GAZEBO GATHERING STARTING THIS WEEK.
AND I WAS GONNA ASK MR. PETTY HOW WILL THAT AFFECT IT? BECAUSE THEY DON'T CLOSE ANYTHING BUT THEY UTILIZE THE PLAZA.
THEY WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS IT'S A REOCCURRING EVENT AND THERE IS A FEE FOR CLOSING THE PLAZA.
UM, WHILE YOU'RE NOT, THEY DON'T CLOSE THE PLAZA, THEY DON'T CLOSE THE PARKING.
THEY, THEY TAKE UP A SPECIFIC PART OF THE GAZEBO AREA.
SO THEY DON'T CLOSE, THEY DON'T CLOSE THE PARKING.
THEY DON'T CLOSE THE STREETS, BUT THEY ARE TAKING UP PUBLIC SPACE, YOU KNOW, WITH AN EVENT.
SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, SO YOU'RE RESERVING AREA, RIGHT.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE BECAUSE OTHERS CAN USE IT, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY PAYING FOR THE ABILITY TO RESERVE THE SPACE FOR YOUR OWN RIGHT.
UM, IT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE, SO IT'S A, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GETTING PD SERVICES, YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY RESERVING THE SPACE FOR YOUR, I DON'T WANNA SAY EXCLUSIVE USE BECAUSE IT'S STILL OPEN PRIORITY PRIORITY.
BUT IT'S PRIORITY THAT THAT'S, SO THAT ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE WOULD BE $10 AN HOUR.
THEIR APPLICATION WOULD SAY WE'RE GONNA START AT SIX AND END TO EIGHT OR SEVEN TO NINE OR MM-HMM
AND THEY'LL JUST BE CHARGED THAT MM-HMM
AND THEY DO A COLLECTION TOO THAT NIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, I THINK THEY DO THEY PASS AROUND A BASKET DURING THE EVENT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT BASKET IS PROBABLY MEANT TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE ENTERTAINMENT.
DON'T YOU THINK GLEN? EXACTLY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FOR THE, NO, THEY PAY ALL THE PERFORMERS FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
I SUSPECT IT'S RECOVERING THE COST OF THE ENTERTAINMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO THE PUBLIC.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD 20, $30 AN EVENT, UH, COST ON THEY'RE DOING THAT TO PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT TO OUR CITIZENS.
IS THERE ANY, THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.
UM, I WONDER IF I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT HERE SINCE WE'RE STILL IN THE DISCUSSION PIECE.
I WONDER IF THERE'D BE ANY WAY, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S A SERIES OF THINGS IF THEY PAY LIKE INSTEAD OF $20 15 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ALMOST LIKE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU RESERVE SOMETHING, IF YOU DO IT FOR LONGER, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW.
'CAUSE MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, WELL MAYBE THEY COULD GET SPONSORS.
LIKE SOMEBODY BE LIKE, I'LL PAY THE $20 FOR THAT NIGHT.
I'M SURPRISED I, I'D BE SURPRISED IF WE'RE NOT A SPONSOR, BUT I THINK THE COUNTY DOES BECAUSE THEY DO GET UP.
KIM CRUMP GETS UP AND TALKS ABOUT THIS IS BROUGHT YOU BY.
I THOUGHT THE COUNTY, WE UM, WE DON'T SPONSOR BLUERIDGE ARTS COUNCIL.
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THE COUNTY DOES.SO WE, I RECALL WE GET THE VIRGINIA COMMUNITY ARTS, I CAN'T DRAWING A BLANK ON THE ARTS GRANT THAT BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY GET.
AND A PORTION OF THOSE GO TO THE ARTS COUNCIL.
NOW THAT THE COUNTY, THERE WERE OUR SOLE BENEFACTOR OF THE, THE ARTS GRANT.
UM, I THINK THE TOWN, IT MIGHT BE TWO OR THREE.
I THINK BRIDGE SINGERS MIGHT BE ONE.
USED TO BE, I THINK THERE USED TO BE AT LEAST THREE THAT WOULD GET DIVVIED UP FOR THE TOWN.
BUT ANOTHER COUNTY WENT DIRECTLY TO THEM AND GAZEBO GATHERINGS AND, AND THERE ARE OTHER EVENTS THAT THEY DO OR PART OF THE APPLICATION.
WELL WE HAVE THE, UM, FARMER'S MARKET AS WELL.
SO I'VE SPOKEN WITH KIM AND, AND I BELIEVE LIZZIE HAS SPOKEN WITH THE DOWNTOWN FRONT ROW LINK WHO RUNS THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND REOCCURRING EVENTS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED.
NEITHER ONE OF THEM CLOSED THE PARKING LOTS.
THEY USE MINIMAL SERVICES, SOME ELECTRIC, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
OR THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING FOR THE ELECTRIC.
THEY, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE POWER IS ON, BUT WE DON'T HAVE STAFF WAIT AND BUY IT FOR 'EM.
BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY USE THE POWER AND WELL, BUT SOMEBODY FROM R IT ON THE RESPONSIBLE.
'CAUSE WE TURN IT ON AND OFF, YOU KNOW, FOR THE EVENT.
AND WE PAY FOR THE ELECTRIC, WE PAY FOR THE, THE ELECTRIC ITSELF.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT BRINGS UP A, A, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ISSUE.
AND I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT IT WHEN I SAW IT, BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
I DID SEE BLUE RIDGE SINGERS AND I REMIND AND I, THAT CAUGHT MY EYE, BUT I NEVER ASKED ABOUT IT.
BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SPONSORSHIPS THAT WE GET GRANTS FOR MM-HMM
FOR TO TO NOTE THAT SOMEHOW, UM, SO THAT NOBODY HAS THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THIS GROUP OVER A GROUP THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING MM-HMM
AND YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE HAVE A LITTLE JUSTIFICATION AS TO WHY WE'RE SELECTING CERTAIN PEOPLE.
WELL, SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL JULY TO PUT IT ON THERE AND MAYBE, UM, MS. COUNCILMAN WOOD, ARE YOU, I'M JUST, I'M NOT TRYING TO READ YOUR MIND.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THE $20 A NIGHT, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR YOU, BUT I'M JUST, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK, I WAS IGNORING WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, LIKE
WELL, THAT, THAT WAS WHERE I WAS COMING FROM, THAT THEY PUT ON THE EVENTS FOR ALL THE CITIZENS.
UM, I GUESS WITHOUT US SOLICITING TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, MR. PETTY SAID, UM, THERE'S SOME COMMUNITY ARTS GRANTS THAT THEY GET.
I DON'T KNOW ANY MORE ABOUT IT THAN WHAT I MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND TALKING ABOUT FUTURE SHOWS, TALKS ABOUT SPONSORSHIP AND I, I'M SURE IT'S GONE IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER.
BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING A FEE ON SOMETHING THAT OUR CITIZEN JOY AND YOU'RE GLAD THAT THEY'RE THERE TO DO THAT.
BUT THEN I THINK, UH, MELISSA'S COMMENT TO WHERE, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THAT LINE? WELL, CRAZY WILLIE WAS, I PUT ON FAMILY FUN DAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL CITIZENS.
SO WHY CHARGE ME? SO IT IT BECOMES A SLIPPER.
THEY'RE ALL BENEFIT FESTIVAL LEAGUE, YOU KNOW.
WELL TO ME, I LOOK AT THE FESTIVALS AS A TOURISM DRAW.
I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY MUST COME FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA HERE, BUT, UM, I THINK THE COMMUNITY FUND DAY IS MORE OF A LOCAL EVENT.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER SMALLER EVENTS THAT ARE HELD, BUT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I I I'M JUST ASKING WE NEED NO, NO, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION.
I I HONESTLY WAS THAT SLIPPED MY, MY FOCUS WHEN YOU SAID THAT I STARTED.
IN ANY COMMUNITY EVENT, A SMALL COMMUNITY THAT IS, I MEAN IT'S FOR
SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH BETWEEN FAM FAMILY FUN DAY AND AN EVENT THAT GOES ON, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER? SO THE PRICE, THE PRICE METRICS DIFFERENT FOR THOSE.
AND MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE PAYING $10 AN HOUR VERSUS TO SHUT THE ROAD DOWN.
THAT'S HOW THE DISTINGUISH IS DIFFERENT.
YOU'RE PAYING FOR TWO HOURS OF A SMALL SPACE OF
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TIME VERSUS THE MANPOWER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BLOCK OFF THE ROAD AND THE TIME THAT THE BUSINESSES CAN'T BE ACCESSED A A AGREED.BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE'S A LARGE PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T DO THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE CHILDREN OR THEY DON'T CHOOSE TO SPEND THEIR, THEIR MOTHER'S DAY LIKE THAT.
I DID IT FOR EIGHT YEARS AND THEN I DECIDED THAT THAT WASN'T FUN FOR ME ON MOTHER'S DAY TO SPEND IT WITH 500 SCREAMING CHILDREN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I PAY THE SAME TAXES AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
I HELP SPONSOR AND HOST IT IN OTHER WAYS.
BUT MY BIGGEST POINT IS, AND I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA HAVE PROBABLY SEEN IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SENT TO ME.
WE JUST RAISED THE ELECTRIC RATES BECAUSE THE COST OF ELECTRIC HAS GONE UP.
IF I'M HAVING AN EVENT WITH A BAND AND AN AMPLIFIER AND MICROPHONES AND WHATEVER ELSE, THE FARMER'S MARKET WITH MY LIGHTS AND SOUND, $10 AN HOUR FOR ELECTRIC'S, NOT A BAD DEAL.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NO FEE TO ACTUALLY USE THE PREMISES.
AND I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR BECAUSE WHY SHOULD 16,000 PEOPLE HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE WHAT 10 PEOPLE GO AND ENJOY FOR ONE NIGHT.
IT'S JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
EVERYTHING IN THIS ECONOMY IS EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
WE RAISED ALL THE SERVICES RATES, SO TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR FREE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WHEN YOU SAY IT THAT WAY, THAT'S A GOOD, AND TOO, LIKE I SAID, IT MIGHT EVEN BE THAT, IT MAY EVEN BE THAT THEY COULD PUT SOMETHING OUT LIKE OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT OF THESE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR EIGHT SPONSORS, IT'S $20 FOR YOU TO SPONSOR.
AND MAYBE THERE WOULD BE SOME BUSINESSES OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE LIKE, I'LL SPONSOR FOR THAT THURSDAY NIGHT.
AND THEN WHEN THEY STAND UP AT THE GAZEBO THEY SAY WE'RE WE'RE TONIGHT'S EVENT, YOU KNOW, WAS SPONSORED BY THE WARREN COUNTY AND THEY WERE CHARGE COUNCIL.
AND WITH MY UTILITY BILL, IF A BAND COMES AND SETS UP AT MY HOUSE, I'M CHARGING THEM AT LEAST $10 AN HOUR.
THE OTHER THING TOO IS SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TOO THAT ARE COMMUNITY EVENTS.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO VENDORS THERE AND SO THERE ARE LIKE, THERE'S A PROFIT TO BE MADE FOR NOT NECESSARILY US, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M THINKING LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S A GREAT THING.
UM, I'M JUST THINKING THOUGH THAT EACH OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SET UP THERE, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE THEY'D KEEP COMING BACK IF THEY WEREN'T GONNA MAKE, THEY WERE, WEREN'T GETTING SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL BENEFIT COMING.
I MEAN EVEN FOR FAMILY FUNDING, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T GO AND MY KIDS DON'T GET THEIR FACE PAINTED ANYMORE AT THEIR AGE, WE GO AND BUY THE CRAWFISH BAGS TO GO 'CAUSE THEY BAG 'EM UP AND SIT IT ON A TABLE NOW.
SO WE DO EVERY YEAR AND BUY IN.
SO I JUST PULLED UP THE GAZEBO GATHERINGS, 2026 GAZEBO GATHERINGS SERVING CON CON CONCERT SERVICES PRESENTED BY BLUE RIDGE ARTS SPONSORED IN PARTNERSHIP, VIRGINIA COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS, THE COUNTY OF WARREN IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
AND THEY HAVE THE COUNTY SEAL AND THE DISCOVER FRONT RURAL SEAL ON HERE.
SO I DUNNO KNOW IF WE'RE CONNECTED WITH FUNDING OR WHATEVER, BUT UH, I THINK IT'S THAT IT'S A, WITHOUT US THEY WOULDN'T GET CONSUMING ELECTRICITY.
UM, AND MAYBE THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD AND MAYBE THAT'S THE ANSWER.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE JUST THERE, IF YOU WEREN'T CONSUMING ANYTHING YEAH.
REFUGE COSTS AND WELL THE TRUCKS HAVE TO GO IN, WHETHER THEY PULL OUT THE BIG BLUE CANS, WHICH I'VE NEVER SEEN AT THESE EVENTS.
I HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION, BUT THERE ARE TRACKS, JUST THE ENCLOSED RECEPTACLES AROUND THERE, THE TRUCK GOES THROUGH THERE.
JOE MIGHT KNOW PERIODICALLY TO DUMP THOSE, WHETHER IT'S DAILY OR TWICE A WEEK TO COME DOWN WHEREVER WE HAVE THE GENERIC TRASH CAN.
SO DEFINITELY OFTEN, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF RATS DOWNTOWN.
WELL I WOULD SAY BY THE TIME WE DO THE JULY MEETING, THAT'S GONNA GIVE PEOPLE LITERALLY LIKE SIX WEEKS THAT IF PEOPLE, THEY'RE DOWN AUGUST 13TH.
SO IT'S PROBABLY A MUTE POINT FOR THIS.
BUT ANYWAY, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
WELL ACTUALLY THESE FEES WON'T EVEN GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL WE APPROVE IT IN JULY.
SO IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A FROM AUGUST 1ST, NEXT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD AND THEN HAVE TIME TO DO IT.
THE NEXT THING IS THE COMMITMENT FOR THE DDOT FIRST STUDY.
AND MR. PETTY, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO YOU.
SO I, PLANNING AND MYSELF WERE RECENTLY APPROACHED BY VDOT REGARDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PLACE IN A STRATEGICALLY TARGETED AFFORDABLE ROADWAY SOLUTIONS PROGRAM.
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OUT TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN.IT CAN JUST BE EMAILED, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FORMAL LETTER, BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL THAT IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STAR STUDY, THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FROM ONE OF THE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS OUT OF THE STAR STUDY, THE CURRENT PLAN IN DISCUSSING WITH THEM.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY IT, AND IT MAY ADJUST A LITTLE BIT FROM THIS, BUT THIS WAS OUR ROUGH IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE LOOKING.
IF WE WERE MOVE FORWARD AND APPLY FOR THE STAR STUDY, THE I THE SCOPE WOULD BE FROM THE SOUTH FOR BRIDGE AT 18TH STREET, SHANNON DO.
AND THEN THAT INTER WE'VE IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE SHENANDOAH 14TH INTERSECTION, THEN THE NORTH ROW EXTENDED INTERSECTION, SIXTH AND COMMERCE, UM, ROYAL AND COMMERCE AND MAIN STREET IN COMMERCE AND THEN SOUTH STREET IN COMMERCE.
WE ACTUALLY ALSO TALKED ABOUT WATER STREET BECAUSE OF THE SYNCHRONIZED SIGNALING THERE, BUT ALSO BROUGHT UP, WE RECENTLY HAD A INTER, UH, ACCIDENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF STONEWALL IN COMMERCE AND WHERE WE HAD THE CAR ON NEW YEAR'S EVE HIT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
UM, BUT WE JUST HAD AN ACCESS 6 3 2 RIGHT CAR UP ON THE SIDE AT SIX COMMERCE.
SO WE'VE HAD A FEW, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY VDOT SAID WE SHOULD LOOK AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.
THEY, THEY HAD ALREADY IDENTIFIED SOME OF THESE.
SO, UM, WE WANTED TO GET COUNCIL'S SUPPORT TO, YOU KNOW, TELL VDOT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN HERE WAS PART OF THE, THE MOST RECENT ONE, WHICH WAS, UH, 3 45 22 FROM THE NORTH FORK BRIDGE OR THE YEAH.
NORTH FORK BRIDGE UP TO THE COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.
SO THEY HAD A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CALLS AND THEY LOOK AT, IT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT, WE STILL HAVE TO GET APPROVED TO EVEN DO THE STAR STUFF.
THE WELL WE'RE SAYING THIS ONE, WE WE, WE STILL HAVE TO APPLY TO EVEN GET THE STARS.
THIS IS JUST A COMMITMENT THAT WOULD GO WITH THE APPLICATION OF YOUR FUNDING TO DO THIS STUFF.
WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE? WE DON'T NO, I'M SAYING IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THIS, WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE? IT COST US NOTHING.
WE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW POSSIBLY THE ISSUES MAY HAVE SOLUTIONS TIED TO AND WE WOULD APPLY FOR FUNDING AND AS YOU ALL BEEN THROUGH THOSE TOO, IT
AND SOME MAY BE SMALLER THAN OTHERS, BUT I THINK, I MEAN I COULD SAY THAT I, I THINK ALL THESE INTERSECTIONS WARRANT TO BE LOOKED AT, UM, BECAUSE TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO GROW ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND UM, WE'VE EVEN IN MY SHORT TIME HERE, YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY WERE HAVING LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE NORTHWELL EXTENDED INTERSECTION WHEN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS COMING IN.
WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT ACCIDENTS AT SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS RECENTLY.
AND WITH THE, UH, POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SMART SCALE ON SOUTH STREET, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY EXTEND THAT DOWN NOW TO THAT INTERSECTION AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT IS A WORTHY, UH, STUDY.
THE ONLY TIME WE RUN INTO ISSUES IS IF THEY OFFER US FUNDING THAT'S MATCHED REQUIREMENT AND THEY COME QUICK AND YOU HAVE TO MATCH IT PAST THEY'VE HAD THE REVERT FUNDS.
AND WE HAVE A FEW RIGHT NOW THAT WE ASKED ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE 14TH AND UM, SHENANDOAH SIXTH.
SIXTH AND ROYAL AND JACKSON AND ROYAL, WHICH WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS COMING, UM, AT VDOT.
THAT'S A COMPLETELY VDOT PROJECT VDOT FUNDING.
BUT WE WOULD LOOK AND THAT'S JUST THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS, REFLECTIVE BACK PLATES ON THE SIGNALS THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THAT AT SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS THAT JUST MAKE IT DRASTIC ACTUALLY THE WORKS.
SO THIS STAR STUDY COULD LEAD TO THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS IN SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I HAD TO, I HAVEN'T HAD THE BEST, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I, WHAT I THINK ABOUT STAR STUDIES.
DO YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH? 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN FEEL LIKE WE HEARD ABOUT 'EM A LOT, SAT IN LINE MEETINGS, THEY TALKED A LOT AND THEN NOTHING EVER CAME UP.
IT I'M GETTING TO LEAVING YOU THERE.
I PROMISED THIS OLDER LADY AT CHURCH THAT HER GARDEN ROAD WAS GONNA GET AND I, SHE, SHE HAD BEEN BUGGING ME BY FOR TWO YEARS AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, IT'S COMING.
AND THEY TOLD US AND THEY WERE, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, YEAH, NO, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE, THAT'S
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NOT GONNA GET FUNDED.AND I WAS LIKE, AND THAT'S THE FUNDING LEVEL.
THERE MIGHT BE A LOT MORE THAN YEAH.
MAYBE SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AT AN INTERSECTION.
SO WE MIGHT JUST HAVE TO FIND WHAT'S MORE FEASIBLE OUT OF THE STUDY.
BUT YEAH, THOSE UP THERE WERE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL PROJECTS AND THERE WON'T BE ANY BOW TIES IN THIS.
NO, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ROUNDABOUTS OR, UM, ON ROUNDABOUTS, BUT I'M TELLING RIGHT NOW, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRIVE, THEY KEEP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC YOU AND THEY SLOW YOU DOWN BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO OVER TO UH, IT'S IT LOUDOUN AND YOU'RE FLYING DOWN ONE OF THOSE ROADS AND YOU HIT A ROUNDABOUT, YOU BASH.
I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T, I DON'T IF THAT'S, I THINK IT WOULD HELP LEAD SEASON IF PEOPLE KNEW HOW TO DRIVE ON SOUTH STREET.
THINK PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO, HOW TO, IT WASN'T THAT IT WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THAT THING WHERE PEOPLE WERE GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT WALMART, TURN AROUND AT THE TARGET SECTION.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE LAST THING.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHO'S GONNA CONVINCE? AND WE WERE GONNA BE THE FIRST EVER PEOPLE HAVE IT.
WELL, WE ARE THE FIRST EVER OUT THERE.
NOW THAT THING OUT THERE THAT AUDREY OUT THERE, WE WERE THE, WE WERE THE GUINEA PIGS FOR THAT.
THERE'S TWO BY THE COLLEGE IN WARRINGTON AND EVERY TIME I GO THERE, I, I CAN'T MAKE MY WAY OUT N ON ON A SO DOES THIS TAKE A VOTE? WHAT? I WAS JUST, IF YOU NEED A LOT OF SPACE, I WAS MAKING A JOKE ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT.
I KNOW THAT'S, I'M JUST SAYING MAKING YOU MAKING NO, I'M A FAN.
I'M JUST SAYING I'VE SAT I'VE SAT IN STAR STUDIES WHERE THEY CAME HERE AND THEY CAME HERE AND THEY CAME HERE AND NONE, NONE OF IT HAPPENED.
WELL, THEY SAID OTHER LOCALITIES NEEDED THERE MORE THAN US.
CAN WE ANYTHING FOR THIS? UM, FOR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, WE COULD DO LIKE A RESOLUTION, WE COULD POINTS FOR THIS OR, SO AT THIS POINT I THINK I HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT EVERYBODY'S SUPPORTIVE.
SO WE'LL JUST LET VDOT KNOW VIA EMAIL THAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION AND THEN WE'LL JUST KNOW MORE.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL BRAD ASKED FOR IS IT COULD JUST BE AN EMAIL SUPPORTING IT.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE.
I HOPE IN MY LIFETIME IT'S HAPPENED.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NEXT STEP FOR OUR CLOSED MEETING.
EVERYBODY'S ALL GOT THIS LENGTH.
I MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 2 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSE.
ONE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A THREE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
MORE SPECIFICALLY 15 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.
AND TWO, PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A, ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE DEMOTION, SALARY DISCIPLINING OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY.
MORE SPECIFICALLY THE CLERK OF COUNSEL.
AND THREE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A EIGHT OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, A, THE AMENDMENT TO THE VOLUNTARY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA AND THE TOWN OF FOR ROYAL VIRGINIA REGARDING THE COMPROMISE FOR PILOT MEALS AND LODGING.
TAXES ENTERED TWO AND TWO, APRIL 11TH, 2018, AND B, PROPOSED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR JOINT TOURISM AT THE COUNTY OF WARREN MOTION.