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AND WE'RE[Town Council Work Session on April 13, 2026.]
GONNA DO A ROLL CALL FIRST.WE NEED TO, UM, MAKE A CHANGE TO OUR AGENDA.
I, I'M SORRY TO ADD A CLOSED MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE AFTER, IT WOULD BE AFTER FOUR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
IT'D BE FOUR, AND THE ADUR WOULD BE FIVE.
SO, UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR SOMEONE, OR I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ADD IT.
AND THEN COUNCIL VOTES BE, YEAH.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADD, UM, A ITEM TO THE AGENDA.
MOVING NUMBER FOUR TO NUMBER FIVE FOR ADJOURNMENT AND ADDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS CLOSE OR SECOND? SECOND.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR DISCUSSION.
WE ALL REALIZE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IT, SO IT IS WHAT IT IS.
CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL? COUNCILMAN ROCKPORT? YES.
SO ITEM NUMBER ONE TONIGHT IS THE MOU BETWEEN THE SMITHSONIAN AND THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
MR. PETTY, I, I ARE FOLKS HERE FROM SMITHSONIAN.
ARE YOU GONNA PRESENT IT OR, UM, SO WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM, UH, THE SMITHSONIAN NATIONAL ZOO HERE WITH US TODAY.
IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER I HAD STARTED.
UM, THEY APPROACHED THE TOWN ABOUT POTENTIALLY COLLABORATING ON, UM, SLOAN CREEK RESERVOIR, WHICH IS OFF OF RE MOUNT ROAD THAT THE TOWN OWNS.
UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, PRESERVING THAT SPACE, BUT YET THAT IS A POTENTIAL WATER SOURCE FOR US.
SO WE WOULD WANT TO PRESERVE THAT.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY CREATING A PARTNERSHIP WITH STAKEN, THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT THEY'LL GO THROUGH TO DISCUSS, UM, POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP.
BUT WE'RE ALSO IN THAT IS TO LOOK AT PUTTING IT INTO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, POTENTIALLY WITH THE COUNTY.
AND SO I'VE ENGAGED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THAT IS PUBLIC PROCESS TO THE COUNTY, BUT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE MOU.
SO WE, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP, I THINK, WITH SMITHSONIAN, WHO'S BEEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 50 YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THEIR TEAM.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO COME ON UP AND IT'S JUST, AND THEN, UH, CHARLES, DO YOU HAVE THEIR PRESENTATION PULLED UP? UH, JUST A SECOND.
I THINK CHARLES IS DRIVING HERE FOR A SECOND.
UH, WELL, YEAH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU TODAY.
UM, AND AS NOTED HERE, CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIP, WE VERY MUCH VALUE THE LONG TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
AND SO THIS, I THINK, DOVETAILS AND JUST CONTINUES THAT PARTNERSHIP EVEN FURTHER.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR THE SMITHSONIAN.
ALSO, UH, JOINED HERE AS, UH, NICOLE PARKER, WHO'S ALSO, UH, OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE, THE SMITHSONIAN.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS HERE, MIKE INGER AND JOHN WHITTEN, ALSO WITH THE SMITHSONIAN AS WELL.
UM, AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE AUDIENCE.
UM, SO AS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE, THE SMITHSONIAN, UH, CONSERVATION BIOLOGY INSTITUTE, UH, WE JUST CELEBRATED OUR 50TH ANNIVERSARY, UH, THERE, UH, LAST YEAR.
AND SO THAT PARTNERSHIP, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE TOWN OF FOR ROYAL, HAS BEEN, UH, EXCELLENT.
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UM, AND I THINK MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE MISSION OF SCDI PREVENT WILDLIFE EXTINCTION AND STRENGTHEN GLOBAL CONSERVATION LEADERSHIP THROUGH CUTTING EDGE RESEARCH TRAINING, AND ON GROUND ACTION.UH, AND AS NOTED WITH THE 50 YEAR PARTNERSHIP, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE RESEARCH IN, IN ALL OF THE AREAS NOTED.
UH, AND SO THIS, UH, PROPOSED ACTION, UH, HERE TODAY.
THIS IS, SORRY, IT'S NOT WORKING.
ARE YOU ABLE TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE
THEY JUST PLAYED A PART IN THE NEWEST LIST.
UM, SO AS PART OF CONTINUING THAT PARTNERSHIP, UM, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEEN IN TALKS WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL SINCE REALLY LATE 2024, UH, ABOUT EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE, WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE SLOAN CREEK POND, UH, SITE.
AND OF COURSE, THAT IS OWNED BY THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
UH, THAT WATER, OF COURSE, IS VERY IMPORTANT AS A ALTERNATIVE WATER SOURCE, OF COURSE, IN THE EVENT OF A DROUGHT FOR THE TOWN.
AND SO I THINK WE ALL SHARE VERY SIMILAR INTEREST HERE WITH ALL THE SMITHSONIAN'S EFFORTS WITH SCBI.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONSERVATION AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT PROPERTY.
WE BOTH, I THINK, SHARE, UH, VERY STRONG INTEREST IN IN CONTINUING THAT.
UM, AND SO WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE THROUGH VARIOUS TALKS AS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, UH, WITH THE TOWN OUTLINING A, A COLLABORATIVE FRAMEWORK, UM, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
AND SO PART OF THAT, UH, COLLABORATIVE FRAMEWORK AS NOTED HERE, UH, CONSERVATION OF THE SITE, UH, HABITAT REVITALIZATION, IMPROVING AND MONITORING THE WATER QUALITY.
SO THE MOU WOULD, WOULD, UH, OUTLINE POSSIBILITIES FOR SMITHSONIAN TO ASSIST WITH THAT, UM, UH, MONITORING AND MANAGING INVASIVE SPECIES.
AND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS, OF COURSE, THE, THE PROPERTY, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, NO ONE I THINK FEARS THAT THERE'D BE ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
UH, BUT, UH, THERE'S THE IDEA OF PUTTING IN A, A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT WOULD, UH, BASICALLY MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL ACTUALLY BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, NICOLE PARKER TO READ THE LAST SEAT.
SO, YEAH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HAVE APPROACHED THIS AS MEMORIALIZING THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE OUR GOALS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE JOINTLY.
UM, AND SO IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE MOU AS RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD, WE THINK, UM, WE HAVE A FEW RESPONSIBILITIES OUTLINED FOR EACH SIDE.
AND SO, UH, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, UH, JOE MENTIONED THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
SO PURSUING THAT WITH WARREN COUNTY THAT WE KNOW WILL INVOLVE, UM, A FEW STEPS AND WE'LL WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON THAT.
UM, THAT REALLY TO JOE'S EARLIER POINT TOO, ABOUT RETAINING, UH, RIGHTS TO THAT DISTILL POND WATER SOURCE, UH, ANY KIND OF UTILITY WORK OR ANYTHING THAT'S NEEDED THAT WILL BE ALSO MEMORIALIZED IN THAT EASEMENT.
SO, UM, THAT WON'T BE RESTRICTIVE AT ALL IN THAT WAY.
AND THEN TO GRANT A CBI, UH, ACCESS THROUGH, THROUGH A LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR WATER SAMPLING, MAINTENANCE CONSERVATION, UH, DREDGING OF SLUM CREEK POND IF NECESSARY, UH, HABIT RESTORATION OF COURSE, AND REALLY ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S MUTUALLY AGREED TO, UM, SHARING INFORMATION.
AND THIS KIND OF GOES, THIS GOES BACK AND FORTH, THAT'S REALLY RECIPROCAL.
UH, AND THEN IF REQUESTED, SCBI CAN ABSOLUTELY HELP WITH, UH, DEQ PERMITTING, MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.
SO, UH, SMITHSONIAN, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES, AGAIN, DEQ PERMIT, UH, SUPPORT WATER SAMPLING, AND MOWING AND DREDGING OF SLOAN CREEK POND.
UH, ALWAYS COORDINATE ACCESS WITH THE TOWN, BUT THAT'S, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT MEMORIALIZED IN THAT.
AND AGAIN, SHARE INFORMATION FLIP TO THE NEXT.
UH, THE KEY ELEMENTS IN THE MOU, I THINK THIS ONE'S IMPORTANT, THAT IT REALLY DOES NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING OF EITHER SIDE RELATED TO COMMITMENT OF FUTURE FUNDS OR RESOURCES.
ANYTHING THERE FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT WOULD REQUIRE A PROJECT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND SO THIS MOU IS, IS REALLY TRULY A COLLABORATION AGREEMENT.
AND IF THERE'S A CERTAIN PROJECT THAT BOTH SIDES AGREE, THEY WANNA, UM, PURSUE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, WE'LL WE'LL GO FORWARD THERE.
UH, IT DOES NOT CREATE ANY FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS FOR, FOR EITHER SIDE.
I THINK THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.
AND ALWAYS, UH, AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING AND RESOURCES WILL, UM, ALIGN WITH FUTURE AGREEMENTS.
IF, IF, UH, BOTH SIDES AGREE THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT, UH, EACH PARTY DESIGNATED INSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE AND A PROJECT LIAISON, I
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THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.UH, IT'S RENEWABLE IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE, AND IT CAN ALSO BE TERMINATED FOR CONVENIENCE BY EITHER SIDE WITH 30 DAYS NOTICE.
AT THIS TIME, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, UH, THAT OUR STAFF COULD ANSWER OR THEIR STAFF COULD ANSWER? I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE SW CREEK.
WHAT IT'S, UH, LIKE THE WA REALLY IS A SECONDARY WATER SOURCE.
I DON'T THINK FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR REPUBLIC WORKS WE'VE EVER USED IT, YOU KNOW, IN RECENT TIMES.
AND I THINK IF YOU WERE, LIKE THEY MENTIONED DREDGING, IF YOU WERE TO GO THERE NOW, IT MIGHT BE A QUARTER OR TWO DEEP.
I MIGHT HAVE TO DEFER TO THE SMITHSONIAN, THINK THEY HAVE A BETTER KNOWLEDGE.
MR. WHITMORE IS THE LAND MANAGER THERE.
HE'D PROBABLY KNOW IT'S RELATIVELY SHALLOW.
I DID SOME DEEP DIGGING, UM, AT, WITH THE VIRGINIA CHRONICLE, AND THE LAST TIME IT WAS DREDGED WAS LIKE A HUNDRED, 124 YEARS AGO,
UM, AND I THINK WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, THERE WAS A GOOSE OR DUCK LITERALLY STANDING ON ONE LEG IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
HE BROUGHT SLOAN CREEK TWO ICE, I BELIEVE.
AND YEAH, SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND I BELIEVE, YEAH, MR. WALSH WAS, UM, HAVING DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO MIKE.
I DO THINK YOU PROVIDED THIS WITH SOME OLD STUDIES ABOUT THE CAPACITY MM-HMM
THE PROJECTED CAPACITY FOR THAT.
IT'D BE A PORTION OF THE SOUTH END OF TUNNEL.
UM, IF IT WAS USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF A SECONDARY BACKUP ORDER SOURCE IN THE, IN THE EXTREME CASE OF A CONTAMINATION OR SOMETHING.
IT'S, IT'S VERY, IT'S FED PRIMARILY, I THINK FROM EVEN THIS WET WEATHER STREAMS AND NOT LIKE A STEADY STREAM.
AND, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST THE PARTNERSHIP.
UM, AND MS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF, UM, BASIC REMOVALS AROUND AND LAND MANAGEMENT.
AND THIS IS KIND OF IN THAT MIDDLE.
AND THIS WOULD HELP PROTECT THAT.
AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROGRAM, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S TO, UH, PREVENT DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
WELL, IN REALITY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THERE, BUT IT DOES SYMBOLIZE THAT CONSERVATION ELEMENT.
AND CONSIDERING THAT HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THIS BEING BUILT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO PRESERVE THAT AS WELL.
AS PART OF OUR HISTORY OF WHEN WE PURCHASED IT IN 1902, WE TOOK OVER THE WALL WATER PROGRAM.
SO DO YOU ALL TEND TO DREDGE IT OUT NOW? NOT RIGHT NOW.
UM, I'M, I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS 'CAUSE DREDGING IS VERY INVASIVE AND TO, AND ALSO WITH TRYING, I KNOW IN THE PAST, LIKE IT'S BEEN HARD TO GET PERMITS WITH DEQ, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DISPLACEMENT OF ALL THE BUNK AND WHATNOT.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK, I DON'T WANNA SAY BIOLOGICAL AGENTS, BUT MICROBIAL LIKE BIOLOGICAL MICROBES THAT WILL ACTUALLY EAT THE MUCK.
THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING TO THE WATER ITSELF.
THEY ACTUALLY JUST BREAK IT DOWN.
SO IT'S MORE OF A LESS INVASIVE RIGHT.
I THINK WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
DON'T WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH OUR WATER? THE OTHER MICROBES? NO.
IN THE, IN THE WASTEWATER PLANT, YES.
THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE PLANT SYSTEM.
THIS IS MORE OF A NATURAL ELEMENT IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TOO.
WE ALL ABOUT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
I THINK WE, WE DEFINITELY, THESE CONVERSATIONS LOOKING, THIS IS AGAIN, WITH SMITHSONIAN BEING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, GREAT PARTNERSHIP.
DO YOU PRESERVE THIS? UM, WHILE IT'S MAYBE A SMALL AMOUNT OF WATER, IT DOES PROTECT THAT SOURCE, BUT THEN ALSO JUST FROM A NATURAL, UM, CONSERVATION STANDPOINT, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO WORK WITH THE SMITHSONIAN.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA FIND ANYBODY BETTER TO MANAGE.
NO, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU FIND MORE QUALIFIED, RATHER.
YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS FOR 50 YEARS.
I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS, WHEN IT, SO, BECAUSE THIS, IT'S AN MOU, MR. SONNET, BECAUSE IT'S AN MU HOW OLD YOU, CAN IT BE ON CONSENT OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE A BUSINESS ITEM? I YOU COULD BE ON CONSENT.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE BEING? I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT, UH, WE'VE BATTED THIS BACK AND FORTH FOR OVER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I I'M GOOD.
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YOU, YOU, THIS SPECIFIC VERSION.NEXT TIME YOU GUYS HOW, WITH AN ELEPHANT BEING BORN AND FIGHT
THE ITEM TWO IS A PRESENTATION FROM AMP FOR RESOLUTION FOR 2026 POWER POOL AGREEMENT.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHO WE WERE TRYING TO GET.
I A WHILE
UM, HE'S HERE TO DISCUSS A POOL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN AND AMP.
SO WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ONE IN PLACE, SO WE ARE, I'M GONNA LET HIM TAKE IT OVER.
UM, I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN HERE.
UM, AND, UH, I ONLY HAVE TWO QUICK, OR ONLY A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES.
CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY SCREEN? MM-HMM
NOW, UM, SO WHAT THIS IS, I GUESS BEFORE I, I GOTTA GO INTO WHAT THIS IS DOING.
I NEED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN, UH, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND WHY IT'S CALLED A POOL OF ONE.
UM, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WITH ALL OF OUR MEMBERS THAT WERE IN GROUPS FOR POOLS.
UM, SO WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT BAND TOGETHER TO, UH, SERVE WHEN THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH THE MARKET TO SERVE THAT LAST LITTLE BIT OF POWER.
UH, AND WE CALL THOSE POWER POOLS.
YOU GUYS ARE NOT IN ONE OF THOSE.
SO, UH, YOU ARE INTERACTING WITH THE MARKET, AND AS YOU DO THAT, ANY COST THAT YOU INCUR COMES STRAIGHT BACK TO FRONT OIL.
UM, BUT AS WE, AS WE GET THAT BILL FROM INTERACTING WITH THE MARKET, UM, AND HOW WE DO THAT, UM, THAT HASN'T REALLY EVER BEEN DOCUMENTED.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THIS DOES.
BUT THE, THE BIG THING THAT YOU, THAT AFFECTS YOU GUYS MORE IS THE AUTHORITY TO PURCHASE SHORT TERM POWER.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, I'VE COME BEFORE YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE MAKING LONG TERM POWER DECISIONS, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING ASSETS, POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS, OR EVEN BLOCKS OF POWER, WE'RE BUYING POWER FOR, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR MORE AT A TIME.
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY FOR IS TO BUY SHORT TERM POWER.
SO LET'S SAY WE NEED MORE POWER TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK, OR EVEN ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
SO THIS COULD INCLUDE WHEN POWER PLANTS ARE ON OUTAGE.
SO LIKE, ONE OF YOUR PLANS LIKE FREMONT IS ON OUTAGE.
UM, THIS COULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMERTIME AND THE WINTERTIME WHEN YOU NEED EXTRA POWER.
WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAME OUT OF THIS WINTER AND WE IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF OUR BLIND SPOTS OF, WE NEED THE, WE NEED THE ABILITY TO, TO PURCHASE MORE SEASONAL POWER.
SO INSTEAD OF GOING TO COUNCIL EVERY TIME WE WANNA MAKE A PURCHASE BECAUSE OF POWER PLANS ON OUTAGE, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR POOLS, AND NOW WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO FOR FIRM OIL IS TO PASS A CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE SHORT TERM PURCHASES UP TO 24 MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO IN ADVANCE.
UM, MOST OF THE TIME IT WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE IN THE FALL, BUYING FOR THE NEXT SUMMER IN, IN WINTER, UM, IS TECHNICALLY HOW THAT WOULD DO.
UM, IT ALSO ENABLES US THAT ONCE WE GET THE, UH, PLANT OUTAGE SCHEDULE, SO OUR POWER PLANTS THAT YOU GUYS OWN, UH, WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE OUTAGE.
SO ONCE WE GET THE SCHEDULES FINALIZED, IT ENABLES US TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE REPLACEMENT POWER FOR THAT.
THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS IT HELPS US WITH THE AUTHORITY TO LOCK IN THE TRANSPORTATION COST OF POWER.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T NORMALLY TALK ABOUT.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HEDGE THOSE TRANSPORTATION COSTS, IT'S CALLED FTRS OR FINANCIAL TRANSMISSION RIGHTS.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YOU.
UM, AND WE, AND WE, WE COORDINATE WITH FRONT ROYAL, UH, WE, WE COORDINATE WITH, UM, WITH, WITH THE CITY OF, UH, TOWN OFFICIALS AS WELL AS CONSULTANTS, UM, ON THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THAT HEDGING STRATEGY.
UM, BUT IT IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE'VE NEVER DOCUMENTED THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
SO IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BUY HEDGES, TO MOVE THE POWER FOR UP TO THREE, UM, UP TO FOUR YEARS IN ADVANCE.
AND THE REASON FOUR YEARS IS BECAUSE, UM, PJM, THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY HAS AUCTIONS THAT YOU CAN LOCK IN YOUR COST UP TO THREE YEARS.
AND SO WE ALREADY ARE DOING THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.
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UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.THIS DOES NOT MEAN ON THESE THINGS THAT WE WILL NOT GET YOUR GUYS', YOU KNOW, WE WON'T BE, UH, GETTING THE TOWN'S BUY-IN.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALREADY REACH OUT TO, UH, THE TOWN OFFICIALS, UH, AND, AND, UM, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? SO WE'RE STILL GONNA MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT PROCESS.
THIS JUST KIND OF MORE DOCUMENTS IT.
THE LAST THING THIS DOES IS IT BREAKS OUT HOW WE BILL YOU GUYS.
SO WE GET A BILL FROM, FROM THE MARKET, AND THEN, UM, WE GO THROUGH AND WE PASS THOSE COSTS ON ALL TO, TO YOU GUYS.
UM, AND THIS JUST KIND OF DOCUMENTS THE WAY WE CALCULATE EVERYTHING, HOW WE GET THE BILLS FROM PJM AND HOW IT GOES TO YOU.
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR BILL, AND THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING WITH HOW WE BILL.
THIS IS JUST DOCUMENTING IT SO WE HAVE IT ON RECORD OUT THERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT HOW WE, HOW WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, CURRENTLY.
UM, AND I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE AN EX, UH, SHOW AN EXAMPLE OF, OF WHY WE DO THIS.
SO THIS IS THE, THE TOWN'S ENERGY NEEDS BY MONTH.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S HIGHER IN THE WINTERTIME WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IT'S COLD OUT AND THE, THE ELECTRIC HEAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR HEATERS ARE RUNNING, UH, ALSO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THE SUMMERTIME.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE SPRING AND THE FALL WHERE IT'S LOWER.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE PRETTY WELL PERFECTLY BALANCED.
THE YELLOW IS OPEN POSITION ON THE MARKET AND ALL OF OUR RESOURCES PRETTY MUCH BALANCE OUT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SUMMER AND THE WINTER, ESPECIALLY THE WINTER, YOU GUYS NEED EXTRA POWER.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MORE SHORTER TERM PURCHASES, UM, TO FILL THAT IN AS WELL AS THEN YOU CAN SEE A SEPTEMBER IN OCTOBER, UM, OUR POWER PLANTS ARE GOING ON THEIR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OUTAGE.
WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE REPLACEMENT POWER TO LOCK THAT IN SO THAT WE AREN'T SITTING THERE ON THE MORE VOLATILE MARKET.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS ISN'T LONG TERM.
THIS JUST GIVES US A, A STANDING AUTHORITY TO DO THIS, UM, FOR UP TO, FOR UP TO 24 MONTHS IN ADVANCE ON THE PURCHASES.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS PASSING THE, THE ORDINANCE, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU THAT ENABLES THE SCHEDULE, WHICH IS BOTH, WHICH KIND OF DOCUMENTS, HOW WE BILL THE AUTHORITY TO, BY SHORT TERM POWER AND THE AUTHORITY TO PROCURE FT WITH, UM, COORDINATING THAT WITH THE TOWN.
UM, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT MY OBLIGATION TO PURCHASE.
THIS IS GIVING US THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT AND FORMALIZE THE PROCESS OF NOT WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
SO IF I WILL OPEN IT TO QUESTIONS, IS THERE ANYONE ON COUNSEL HAS THE QUESTION.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR WE CUT AND DRAFT MR. AGAINST TO GET US OFF IN THAT MARKET.
LIKE THIS BIG COLD WE JUST HAD THIS WINTER, THIS WOULD'VE HELPED OUT BY BEING ABLE TO COME TO ACCOUNT MANAGERS SAYING, HEY, WE NEED THIS LITTLE BLOCK OF POWER.
CAN WE TAKE IT NOW AT A CHEAPER PRICE THAN OPEN MARKET? YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
WOULD THIS HELP TIGHTEN UP THE OPEN MARKET? I KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THAT AROUND LIKE 10, 11% LEVEL WAS, FORGIVE ME FOR NOT REMEMBERING THIS.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE, NOW THIS WON'T FILL IT IN LONG TERM.
UH, THIS WILL JUST, BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE AS WE'RE GOING INTO THE WINTER, UM, IN THE SUMMER AND OUTING SEASON, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN START LOCK THAT IN SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH VOLATILITY.
BUT HE IS EXACTLY, EXACTLY RIGHT.
COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT HAS THE DOOR.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD, IN, IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT WOULD BE THE, I GUESS THE AVERAGE WINDOW OF WHEN, WHEN YOU WOULD MAKE, MAKE SUCH A PURCHASE? I MEAN, CLEARLY YOU HAVE SOME HISTORICAL DATA, BUT I MEAN, IS IT SIX MONTHS? IS IT 12 MONTHS? I MEAN, UH, SO WHAT WOULD, WHAT WHAT WOULD TRIGGER YOU TO DO IT? I GUESS? SO TOWARDS THE, IN THE FALL OF EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING YEAR'S MONTHLY ENERGY NEEDS.
UM, IF WE SEE A BIG DIP IN PRICES, WE MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S IN THE FALL.
WE IDENTIFY WHAT OUR MONTHLY NEEDS ARE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
UM, AND THEN WE LOOK AT, AT TIMING.
UM, SO WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WINTER WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF, A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL BUY THAT OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TIMEFRAME AND THEN THE SUMMERTIME, UM, WE IDENTIFY THOSE NEEDS IN THE FALL.
WE TRY TO LOCK THOSE IN BY THE SPRING USUALLY, UM, FOR THAT.
AND THEN OUTAGE SEASON, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHEN WE'VE SOLIDIFIED THOSE FINAL OUTAGE DATES.
BUT USUALLY WE'RE LOOKING TO LOCK IN, UM, OUR FALL OUTAGES BY THE SPRING.
UM, NOW WE DO WATCH THE MARKETS TO TRY TO, WHEN WE SEE KIND OF A DIP IN THE MARKET, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAD A DIP A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHERE WE PURCHASED A BUNCH OF, UH, ONE BATCH OF SUMMER POWER.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING TO GET CLOSE TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, ANOTHER POSSIBLE DIP IN THE MARKET WHERE, UH, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT LOCKING IN SOME MORE SUMMER AND, UM, FALL
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OUTAGE PURCHASE RIGHT NOW.SO IT'S KIND OF A COMBINATION OF WE START LOOKING ABOUT NINE MONTHS IN ADVANCE TYPICALLY, AND THEN WAIT FOR A MARKET OPPORTUNITY.
QUESTION, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL FOR CRAIG? UM, I ASSUME THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE POWER POOL AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED ME STORAGE, COMFORTABLE, INTERNAL OF THE RESOLUTION.
I HAVE TO GET EYES ON THIS AND IT HASN'T COME TO ME YET, RIGHT? YES.
BUT I, I, THAT SAID, I RELY HEAVILY ON AMPS COUNCIL.
UM, THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF MAKING SURE IT COM COMPLIES WITH THEIR MISSION AND FEDERAL REGS.
BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK.
SO BUSINESS ITEM IF IS COUNSEL AS OPPOSED TO CONSENT.
CAN WE PUT RESOLUTIONS ON CONSENT? YES.
THAT'S 'CAUSE WE WILL SEE IT BEFORE THE 27TH 'CAUSE UH, IT'LL SEE, PEOPLE WILL SEE IT IN THE PACKET BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOOK AT IT AND THEN IT'LL COME FORTH.
I DON'T RECALL EVER HAVING AN ISSUE WITH ANYTHING THAT DRAFTED, BUT, OKAY.
I, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T TAKEN A THOROUGH LOOK AT IT, SO THAT'S GOOD.
BUT I, I WILL SAY AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, THIS ISN'T, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE PROBABLY HAD AROUND A HUNDRED DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES PAST THIS, UM, SO FAR IT IS, IT DOES COVER A LOT OF THINGS THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY, UM, AFFECT FRONT ROYAL TODAY, THE WAY FRONT ROYAL IS SET UP.
UM, BUT IT JUST STANDARDIZED 'CAUSE WE, WE KIND OF CREATED ONE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE HAVING.
ALRIGHT, NEXT STEP IS OUR NEW DUMB BUSINESS
NO, BECAUSE I GUESS MY QUESTION ON RESOLUTION HOLD ONE SECOND.
NEW BUSINESS, A POLICE DEPARTMENT PURCHASE A 3D LASER SCANNER, SOFTWARE AND EQUIPMENT PACKAGE.
AND THAT IS GONNA BE MS. CAMPBELL'S GONNA BE TALKING.
SO COUNSEL IS ASKED TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A TVD LASER SCANNER PACKAGE FROM LIKE AND GEO SYSTEMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $69,396.
THIS EQUIPMENT WILL ALLOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO QUICKLY AND ACCURATELY DOCUMENT CRIME SCENES, SERIOUS CRASHES AND OTHER INCIDENTS.
YOU'RE AGAIN, CAPTURING A FULL SCENE IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME AND PRODUCING CLEAR VISUALS FOR INVESTIGATIONS AND COURT USE.
THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE AS THE 3D SCANNER IS UNIQUELY MANUFACTURED BY LIFE AND GEO SYSTEM.
UM, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT OF FUNDS TO THE POLICE INVESTIGATIONS EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM FROM THE VIRGINIA DCJS OPERATIONS.
CEASEFIRE GRANT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNSEL ON JANUARY 26TH.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESUME.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CAMPBELL? WELL, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
WE APPROVED IT AT THE PREVIOUS EXCEPT TO THE GRANT.
I HAVE A, WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST THE, THE EQUIPMENT.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS ONE THOUGH, ABOUT THE SOLE SOURCE.
SO I SAW THAT IT WAS SOLE SOURCE AND, AND ALSO THAT THAT MEANS THAT THE MAINTENANCE MM-HMM
IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, TIED TO THEM AS WELL.
AND I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION WAS AROUND THIS, THIS EQUIPMENT, BECAUSE UM, WHEN I WAS READING IT, IT WAS LIKE, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF CON, I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO RAMBLE THIS, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE A LOT OF CONDITIONS THAT COULD IMPEDE THE SCAN AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WEATHER AND REFLECTION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, WELL A LOT OF THE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN IN JUST THOSE CONDITIONS THAT ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE EQUIPMENT.
AND I WONDERED LIKE, WHAT'S THE BACKUP? I WONDERED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN I WONDERED ABOUT THE BACKUP PLAN FOR, UM, A PERSON.
LIKE, LIKE HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH, AND CHIEF WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS ONE ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF YOU SCAN, THEN YOU LEAVE THE SCENE.
LIKE, HOW SOON DO YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING IS, IS LOST OR NOT? WELL, HOLD ON A SECOND.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TRY NOT TO BE YELLING OVER.
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NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT'S GETTING OUTTA HERE.CHIEF, COULD YOU COME UP HERE SO THAT IF, IF COUNSEL HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, IT IS NOT.
SO BASICALLY YES, IT'S, IT'S ALL WRAPPED UP INTO IS THIS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO CHOOSE FOR SOLE SOURCE, DO YOU FEEL? OR IS THERE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE MAYBE UM, MORE RELIABLE AND LESS EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG RUN? BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO MAINTAIN IT, IF IT IS IT GONNA FUNCTION IN THE, IN THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU NEED.
SO THIS IS AN EQUIPMENT THAT IS UTILIZED BY MO COUNTY SHERIFF HEALTH, BUT ALSO VIRGINIA SAFETY POLICE.
THIS IS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WHERE EVERYTHING IS DRIVEN TO RIGHT NOW.
THESE ARE THE ONLY COUPLES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT HAS THIS TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE.
ANY, ANY KIND OF BRAND THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UM, AND THIS IS GONNA HELP BE ABLE TO PROCESS NOT ONLY FOR CRASH SCENES, BUT IT'S FOR OTHER INVOLVED SCENES TO BE ABLE TO MAP THAT, THAT IMAGING AND BRING THAT BACK INTO THE COURTROOM.
BUT FOR IT TAKE TIME AND EFFORT WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE PULLING TAPE MEASURES, YOU'RE TRIANGULATING AND DOING THIS AND THAT, THAT WAY YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR SIDE AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPEAT THAT EVIDENCE BACK ON THE COMPUTER LIKE, I GOT IT HERE AND RECEIVED IT FOR HERE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PULL MEASUREMENTS FASHION WAY THAT YOU NOW IF WE NEEDED TO DO THAT, THE MACHINE BREAKS OR GOES DOWN.
YOU HAVE THOSE OTHER METHODS YOU HAVE, THERE ARE SEVERAL METHODS TO PLACE THAT EVIDENCE WITHIN THIS ROOM.
I MEAN IT WOULD BE HOURS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE DAYS PULLING EVIDENCE.
THE SIZE OF THE ROOM DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH EVIDENCE YOU HAVE.
THAT WOULD, AGAIN, A LOT OF TIME.
AND IS IT REAL TIME THOUGH TO WHERE YOU'RE GONNA KNOW, YOU SCAN AND YOU, YOU IMMEDIATELY KNOW NOW HOW FAST IT WAS SUCCESSFUL SO THAT YOU TOOK CAN LEAVE THE SCENE? YEAH, I WOULD IMAGINE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST IT'S, 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DON'T, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS TECHNOLOGY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT AND THAT IT HAS DOWNLOADED, COMPLETED WHAT IT WE AND THAT, OH, GO AHEAD.
THAT WAS A GOOD POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BECAUSE PRIOR TO ME GETTING ON COUNSEL AND RIGHT AS I GOT ONTO COUNSEL IT WAS THE UM, BODY CAM.
WE WERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD LEASE THOSE SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICE AND UPKEEP.
AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE THAT TECHNOLOGY IS EVOLVING AND CHANGING AND SO MIGHT HAVE BEEN RAISING THIS, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT IT WAS.
I KNOW WHICH FROM, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH TECHNOLOGY THERE TO SEE IF IT WAS BETTER TO LEASE OR PURCHASE.
BUT SINCE WE HAVE A GRANT ON, WELL YEAH, WE CAN CALL ON OUR NEIGHBORS
TECHNOLOGY IS OLD AS SOON AS YOU BUY IT'S OLD, IT'S EVERYTHING.
AND THIS RATE, EVEN FIVE YEARS IS A STRETCH.
IT'S HER, IT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR THE, THAT IT WOULD TAKE A PERSON HOURS JUST BECAUSE 69,000 AS A PERSON, YOU KNOW.
SO FOR THE PERSON OR, OR IS IT THE MACHINE? YOU KNOW, WHICH, SO YOU FIGURED YOU'RE CALLING OUT FIVE INVESTIGATORS OUT TO DO A LARGE SCENE WHEN THIS THING WOULD CUT IT DOWN WITHIN HOURS AND TIME IS MONEY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN WOOD? SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE TO ASK, BUT DOES THIS COME ALONG WITH SOMEBODY TO TRAIN US OR THERE IS TRAINING YOU DON'T JUST SEND IT TO YOU IN THE INSTRUCTION? NO.
GOOD LUCK OR, NO, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO PUT IN PLACE.
WE HAVE OPERATING STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN IT.
COUNCILMAN SEE LOT THIS, THIS IS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE CHIEF.
YEAH, IT, IT WILL DO WHAT WE CAN.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN WE HAVE BAD WEATHER, WE TRY TO PUT UP TENTS.
ANYTHING THAT RESERVE ANY KIND OF EVIDENCE, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WORK AGAINST THE CLOCK AND WEATHER TO GET
SO SO THE $69,000 PACKAGE COVERS CARE PACKAGE, COMPLETE CARE PACKAGE, THE EXTENDED WARRANTIES AND YES, IT COVERS THAT AND THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SOFTWARE.
AND THEN AFTER FIVE YEARS THEY'LL HAVE LIKE THE ADD-ONS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE UPGRADE, UPDATED THE UPGRADES.
AND THEN HOW WOULD, SO YOU, YOU SAID THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS CURRENTLY HAS THE SAME THINK THEY PURCHASED IT LAST YEAR OFF THE CEASE FIRE GRANT AS WELL.
SO AT LEAST, AT LEAST YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S, AND YES.
UH, AND WE HELP THEM WORK WITH EACH OTHER ON THAT TOO.
AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? OKAY, IF NO ONE OBJECTS TO IT, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT CONSENT ITEM.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE FY 26 27 APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE.
UH, SO COMING BACK TO COURT COUNSEL HERE TO, UH, REQUEST FOR THE APPRECIATE 6 27, UH, ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR THE BUDGET, UM, WORK SESSION DOES, OR THE, UH, WORK SESSION COVER SHEET DOES HAVE AN INCORRECT DATE.
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UH, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025 WORK SESSION.IT WAS ACTUALLY ON MARCH 2ND, 2026.
UM, WE, UM, PRESENTED THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO COUNCIL.
OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON IT HERE RECENTLY AND, UH, THE TAX RATE THERE LAST WEEK.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST A DIRECTION TO, UH, PLACE THE, UH, ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE BUDGET.
WHEN WHEN'S THE FINAL VOTE ON THAT? IT'S MAY.
UM, SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE, I'M SORRY.
UH, MAY, UM, UH, MAY 26TH IS THE FINAL, UM, THE FINAL VOTE AT THE REGULAR MEETING.
WE WOULD NEED TO HOLD A WORK SESSION HERE AT TOWN HALL.
UM, HAVE WE DONE, I MEAN I KNOW WE'VE HAD WORK SESSIONS.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD MEETINGS HERE WHERE THE PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT HAVE, I THINK WE'VE HAD WORK SESSIONS ON LIKE THE, UH, APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT FELL IN THE CALENDAR.
I THINK WE'VE HAD TO DO IT HERE BEFORE.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A OH YOU MEAN PUBLIC HEARING? YEAH, PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T QUITE REMEMBER VERY OFTEN.
OFTEN WE'VE, NOT VERY OFTEN, BUT I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE PUBLIC HEARING, I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
JUST NOT VERY OFTEN, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE 'CAUSE IT'S THE WAY THE CALENDARS WORK.
ASIDE FROM HOLDING A SPECIAL MEETING, WE, CORRECTION, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH US DOING THAT? ADVERTISING? DOES EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? UM, SO WE'RE GONNA DIRECT STAFF TO ADVERTISE THE FFY 26 27 APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE, PRESENT IT.
AND YOU ARE ALSO NEXT, YOU ARE THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THREE C, THE FFY 26 BUDGET AMENDMENT SALE OF THE TUB GRINDER.
WE FINALLY SOLD THE TUB GRINDER.
DIDN'T GET NEAR AS MUCH AS WHAT I'D HOPED FOR FOR IT
I'M NOT LOOKING TO PURCHASE ONE AT THIS TIME.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING AVAILABLE.
WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH WITH THE NEXT, UH, BUDGET.
BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST WANTING TO SET THE MONEY ASIDE.
AND THAT WAS THE BIG ONE THAT WE BOUGHT IN NINE SEVEN THAT SET OUT THERE.
THAT WE PUT THE STUFF IN THAT GROUNDED UP.
THE, UH, MAKE US ALL KINDS OF MONEY.
WHAT'S THAT? IT WAS GOING TO MAKE US ALL KINDS OF MONEY.
UH, BACK THEN IT WAS, YEAH,
A LOT OF THE, UH, UM, NEIGHBORING LOCALITIES WENT TO SUBCONTRACTING IT OUT.
AND THAT'S WHOSE, UH, CONTRACT WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, WRITING OFF OF.
YOU PROBABLY DID GOOD TO GET 18,000.
I WAS HOPING TO GET MORE, I WAS HOPING TO GET A LOT MORE JUST LIKE, UH, QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS ORIGINALLY.
AND WE PUT IT OUT, UH, WE PUT IT OUT, UH, THREE OR FOUR TIMES, UH, ON DIFFERENT SITES TRYING TO GET A, A BETTER PRICE.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE GOT NOT YOUR FAULT.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.
AND MAINTENANCE IS JUST GETTING OUT OF HAND ON IT.
SO I'M, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, THAT COULD BE ALSO CONSENT.
THE LAST ITEM IS MR. PETTY, WHICH IS, BUT DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
MR. PETTY'S GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE ALLEY VACATION UPDATES BETWEEN EAST FIFTH STREET AND HAPPY CREEK.
DOES ANYBODY ON COUNCIL NEED A SNACK? I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE RETREAT AND THIS, ANYBODY NEED ANYTHING? BATHROOM BREAK REAL QUICK.
DO YOU THINK WE GOT TIME FOR THAT? BECAUSE AS SOON AS JOE'S DONE WITH THIS, WE WILL GO INTO CLOSE.
BIRTHDAY PARTY SCHOOL TEACHER.
YOU KNOW WHAT? AND GUESS WHAT, NOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'M LIKE AT SCHOOL.
JOSH, ARE YOU SURE? I DO THAT VERY OFTEN.
I'LL LET FINISH THIS LESSON REAL QUICK.
I DON'T EVEN NEED, ARE WE GOOD? YEAH.
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GONNA TAG TEAM THIS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME LEGAL STUFF TO IT AS WELL.UH, BUT BASICALLY A FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED COUNSEL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE THE ALLEY AT, UM, OR SACRAMENTO METALS AND TWO 14 FOURTH STREET, LLC.
TWO 18 EAST 14TH FOURTH STREET.
SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE MET WITH THEIR LEGAL REPRESENTATION.
UM, GEORGE WAS PRESENT BOTH ON THE SALE OF POTENTIAL SALE ON ZUCKERMAN.
AND BECAUSE OF SOME LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE RELATING TO HOW IT'S GONNA BE CONVEYED AND POTENTIAL DEED, IT HAS BEEN REQUESTED THAT WE WOULD JUST REPEAL THESE AND BRING THESE BACK TO COUNSEL AT A FUTURE DATE.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME TIMELINES IN THERE AS WELL THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MEET THAT WERE PRETTY UP AGAINST, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL LAND OWNERSHIP CHANGE AND SOME OF THE LEGAL MEANS BEHIND THAT.
THIS WAS WHAT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE WOULD JUST DO THIS AND WE WILL LIKELY BE BRINGING THIS BACK TO COUNSEL, UM, WITH, WITH THE NEW OWNER AND TIMELINES AND STUFF.
REQUEST IF I COULD THE, THE, THE APPLICANT.
WE, WE MET WITH THE LE UM, THE LEGAL COUNSEL OF THE EACH APPLICANT AND THE PURCHASER'S.
PURCHASER FOR THE ZUCKERMAN CORRECT PIECE.
SO WHAT I, AS FAR AS THE ZUCKERMAN PARCEL, UM, APPARENTLY WHAT HAPPENED IS AFTER THEY APPLIED FOR THIS, UH, THEY, UH, HAD A BUYER, THEY HAD CLOTHES, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, THEY HAD A, YEAH, THEY HAD A BUYER BEFORE THEY CAME.
SO THIS WOULD CREATE A TITLE ISSUE BECAUSE TOWN WOULD BE CONVEYING BY QUIT CLAIM.
SO ZUCKERMAN DECIDED THROUGH COUNSEL THAT IT WOULD COMPLICATE TITLE WORK AT THE CLOSING FOR THE NEW BUYER.
IF, IF THIS WENT THROUGH WITH QUICK CLAIM, TITLE AND CON AND, UH, CONSOLIDATION.
SO IN EACH CASE THE APPLICANT IS BACKED OFF.
I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY IS JUST TO REPEAL THESE MM-HMM
UH, AND WHOEVER WANTS TO START OVER THERE IS NO OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.
IT, IT IS THE BUDDYING PROPERTY AND THE NEW PURCHASER'S INTERESTED IN DOING IT TOO.
IT'S JUST THAT APPARENTLY, YEAH, THEY'RE, UM, SO, SO BASICALLY ALL WE'D BE DOING IS UNDOING WHAT WE DID IN JANUARY AND THEN THE NEW PURCHASER CAN APPLY, BUT THEY WOULD BE THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME.
ALL DOES ANYBODY? IS THAT WHAT WELL, I, SORRY, I WAS GONNA ASK, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY AGAIN THOUGH? HAVE TO PAY A FEE? WELL, THEY DIDN'T, THEY, THE NEW PURCHASER DIDN'T PAY THE OTHER TIME IT WOULD'VE BEEN THE OTHER PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, APPLY THE FIRST TIME.
SO CAN WE PUT THIS ON CONSENT? NO.
IT'S A, I GUESS IT'S TECHNICALLY AN ORDINANCE.
IT'S GONNA BE THE WORLD'S SHORTEST ORDINANCE.
BUT IS IT, IS IT GOING, DO YOU WANT ONE SENTENCE REPEALING THE CONDITIONAL? AND DO, DO WE HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO REPEAL AN ORDINANCE? UH, NO.
UM, TINA DOESN'T THINK WE NEED TO.
BUT NOT, NOT CONSENT, BUT NOT CONSENT.
THIS SUPPLY ALL OR JUST THIS ONE? THESE TWO.
WELL, THAT ONE TO ME THERE WAS, THERE WAS THE THREE.
I MEAN, I, I JUST REMEMBER A LOT OF THEM, BUT IT WAS ALL KIND OF THE SAME APPLICATION, SAME REPRESENTATION.
SO WE WILL JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL THREE OF 'EM ARE CORRECT.
AND THOSE ARE BEING SOLD MM-HMM
AND THE OTHER ONE'S BACKING OFF FOR DIFFERENT REASON.
SHOULD THEY BE THREE SEPARATE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? THEY SHOULD, YEAH.
SO NEXT UP, ITEM FOUR IS CLOSING.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO GO AND CLOSE I PURSUANT SECTION 1, 2, 2, VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSE.
ONE, PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO TWO, 1A CODE OF VIRGINIA WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, EMPLOYER RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTER REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE AMENDMENT TO THE VOLUNTARY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA AND THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA REGARDING THE COMPROMISE FOR PILOT DEALS AND LOBBYING TAXES.
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AND TWO, PURSUANT TO 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A, ONE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OUR INTERVIEWS WITH PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINARY, OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE TOWN MANAGER.OKAY, THERE'S ADMISSION AND SECOND ROLL CALL.