* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] I AM GONNA CALL TO ORDER THE [Town Council on February 2, 2026.] RESCHEDULED REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY, FEBRUARY 2ND ORDER. AND WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BEING LED BY VICE MAYOR BY I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. SILENCE BEFORE THREE, BUT WE DIDN'T. SO CLAP FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE BEFORE WE START MR. PRESSLEY. WE'LL DO OUR ROLL CALL. MAYOR COCKRELL. HERE. VICE MAYOR MAYORAL. HERE. COUNCILWOMAN DE DEMON PAYNE. HERE. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? HERE. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? HERE. COUNCILMAN OCK. HERE. COUNCILMAN WOODS HERE. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING, UH, FLEXIBLE AND JOINING US IN THIS SPACE FOR OUR, UH, UH, RESCHEDULED MEETING. THE WEATHER. IT WAS QUITE FINE LAST WEEK. UH, THE FIRST ITEM FOR COUNCIL'S, UH, PURVIEW IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. DO I HEAR A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT. COUNCIL APPROVED THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 8TH, 2025. REGULAR MEETING WORK SESSION. JANUARY 5TH, 2026, WORK SESSION. AND JANUARY 12TH, 2026. WORK SESSION AS PRESENTED. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR OV? YES. COUNCILMAN SEA LOCK? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY ADDITION OR DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA AND OR ANY REVISION TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS. I BELIEVE THERE IS A MOTION TONIGHT. UM, WITH SOME CHANGES. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT. COUNCIL REMOVE ITEMS. NUMBER SIX, RECOGNITIONS AWARDS, REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS. AND NUMBER 12, CLOSED MEETING FROM THE AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION? IT WILL REQUIRE A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR COUNCIL'S INFORMATION CORRECT. AND THE REC, UH, RECOGNITION AWARDS AND REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS WE'RE GONNA BRING BACK AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING SO THOSE PEOPLE WON'T NOT GET RECOGNIZED. JUST NOT TONIGHT. ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN WOOD. YES. VICE MAYOR ? YES. COUNCILMAN LOC? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILMAN D DEMON PAINT? YES. PASS THIS. SO, UH, WE WILL, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS NOW, UM, NOT PART OF OUR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THESE ARE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SIX PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. UM, WE NOW COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA. PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO LEARN OF INFORMATION OF WHICH THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY AWARE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE RECOGNIZED AND COME FORWARD TO MY DEFENDANT TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND INDICATE IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN FRONT. ROYAL, IF THE COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, YOU MAY SIMPLY STATE THAT YOU AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. THERE IS A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR SPEAKERS. AFTER THREE MINUTES, MIKE THEN WILL CUT OFF. PLEASE REMEMBER, YOU ARE TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND TO REFRAIN FROM WORDS OR STATEMENTS WHICH ARE AMATORY TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS OR TO OTHER DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT, INCLUDING OBSCENITY AND VULGARITY. BLESS YOU. SO OUR FIRST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUESTED REQUEST SUBMITTED BY A FEW CELL FLOORS FOR AN ARTISTIC MURAL AT 2 0 2 EAST SEVEN, UH, SECOND STREET. AND MS. PRESLEY, UM, WOULD YOU READ THE SUMMARY? COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY FUSEL FLORES, PROPERTY OWNER C-J-M-W-O FOR AN ARTISTIC MURAL EXCEEDING 60 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, LOCATED AT 2 0 2 EAST SECOND STREET, IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP 2 0 8 8 DASH ONE DASH FOUR DASH 33. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C DASH TWO DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT. THE PROPOSED MURAL WOULD REPLACE AN EXISTING ONE IN THE SAME LOCATION. THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE SYMBOLOGY CONTAINED WITHIN AN ARTISTIC MURAL CONSTITUTES A SIGN AND IS PROPOSED SIZE EXCEED 60 SQUARE FEET. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AT THEIR NOVEMBER 19TH, 2025. MEETING LETTERS WERE SENT TO THE ADJACENT [00:05:01] PROPERTY OWNERS INFORMING THEM OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. MS. LEY, NORMALLY WE OPEN UP OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OFFER STAFF IF, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED TO PRESENT OR WANTED TO PRESENT OR IF THERE'S, UM, THAT'S A NO. RIGHT? LAUREN? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. ALRIGHT. RIGHT. UM, OR IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TO SAY ANYTHING. I DON'T. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT? I WOULD HAPPY TO BE HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. BUT I DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MS. PRESLEY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE HAVE ONE. I BELIEVE IT'S DIANE. I DID SIGN UP, SO I CAN'T, I MEAN, I CAN, I JUST WAS GONNA GIVE A BRIEF SURE. OVERVIEW. IT'S UP TO YOU. IF YOU'LL JUST COME TO THIS, UM, COME HERE TO OUR, YEAH. OKAY. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND JUST ADDRESS THEM WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE, UH, IN THE TOWN OR COUNTY. YES. SO MY NAME IS KATIE BONNET AND I LIVE AT 1 1 2 DOUGLAS DRIVE IN MIDDLETOWN. I, UM, DON'T LIVE IN FRONT ROYAL, BUT I OWN THE BUSINESS. ELL FOREST IN FRONT ROYAL. AND THERE IS A PHOTO OF THE MURAL WE WANNA DO. UM, IT'S A MURAL ACROSS THE SIDE. IT'S GONNA BE REPLACING THE EXISTING MURAL. WE WANNA UPDATE IT. IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. UM, IT'S GONNA SAY EVERY BLOOM TELLS A STORY WHICH HAS MEANING TO US AS FORESTS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH FLOWERS, IS WE TRY TO TELL PEOPLES STORIES WITH FLOWERS, BUT IT ALSO HAS A GREATER MEANING TO THE COMMUNITY OF JUST HOW EVERYONE WE MEET HAS A STORY TO TELL AND WE SHOULD MEET PEOPLE WITH CURIOSITY AND WITH THAT THOUGHT THAT WE'RE COMPLEX JUST LIKE WE ARE. SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT POSITIVE MESSAGE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO THE MURAL JUST NEEDED TO BE UPDATED. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO DO IT IF WE GET APPROVAL. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE A QUESTION? NO, WE'RE GOOD. NO. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME I'M ACTUALLY GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP TO COUNSEL. I MOVE THAT COUNSEL APPROVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SUBMITTED BY A FEW SOUTH FLORIDA PROPERTY OWNER C-J-M-W-O FAMILY FOR AN ARTISTIC MURAL EXCEEDING 60 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, LOCATED AT 2 0 2 EAST SECOND STREET, IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO ZERO A EIGHT DASH ONE DASH FOUR DASH THREE THREE AS PRESENTED. SECOND. ANY ADMISSION? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? IT'S MY ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO RE-EXPRESS MY DISDAIN FOR THIS PART OF THE TOWN, UM, CODE OR SIGNAGE THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE REVISITED. I WILL, AGAIN, EXPRESS WHAT I'VE EXPRESSED TO PEOPLE WITH MURALS IN THE PAST. IF YOU OWN YOUR BUILDING AND YOU WISH TO PAINT IT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH YOUR PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS. AND ANY TIME SOMEBODY IS LOOKING TO IMPROVE A BUILDING IN THE TOWN OF BURN ROYAL, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE WELCOMED AND IT SHOULD NOT BE A FINANCIAL BURDEN OR A HURDLE TO HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH TO DO SO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE ONLY THING THAT I, I WOULD ADD, MAYOR, IS THAT, UH, I THINK IT'S WELL DONE. IT FITS THE, UH, BEAUTIFICATION OF THE NATURE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE ARTWORK. ALRIGHT. NO OTHER DISCUSSION. WILL WE DO ROLL CALL? COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR FEL? YES. COUNCILMAN OCK? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCIL INGRAM? YES. COUNCIL IMAN D DEMON? YES. MOTION PASSES. SO OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC PERMIT ON REQUEST FROM ZUCKERMAN MEADOWS INCORPORATED TO VACATE A PORTION OF AN UNIMPROVED STREET LOCATED BETWEEN EAST FIFTH STREET AND HAPPY CREEK. UM, MS. PAR, I'LL READ THE SUMMARY FOR YOU. COUNSEL'S REQUEST TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REQUEST FROM ZACH MEADOWS INCORPORATED TO CONDITIONALLY VACATE. BUT WERE CERTAIN PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY OF A 14,188 SQUARE FOOT PORTION OF THE UNIMPROVED STREET LOCATED BETWEEN EAST FIFTH STREET AND HEAVY CREEK NORTHEAST OF EAST FIFTH STREET KNOWN AS AREA A. THE STREET WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED BY THE FRONT ROYAL AND RIVERTON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY. THEREFORE, STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A TITLE EXAM EXAM RIGHT B COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT, CERTIFIED LETTERS WERE SENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THAT'S THE SUMMARY STAFF. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SHARE WITH COUNSEL AT THIS TIME? UM, SO WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNER, BUDDY, PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, I WILL MAKE NOTE THAT ITEM, UH, AGENDA ITEMS B, C, AND D ALL RELATE TO THE SAME GENERAL AREA AND REASONING BEHIND THIS. IT'S JUST THREE SEPARATE PIECES. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, WE'VE, AND OUR GI IS TO GO BACK ALL THE WAY FROM WHEN, UH, FRONT ROW RIVERTON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND TO FIND PLATS TO ACTUALLY SHOW IT. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE FINDING IS THE MAP IN OUR OFFICE. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY [00:10:01] WE'VE ALSO RECOMMENDED TITLE EXAM TO JUST ENSURE, UM, THAT THIS WAS FROM RURAL RIVERTON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY STREET THAT WAS JUST NEVER FLATTED BY SURVEY, BUT JUST DESIGNATED IN DESCRIPTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D HAVE TO HAVE 'EM. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ARE ALSO HERE TODAY. THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT THING IS, UM, FIRST OFF, DOES COUNSEL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO ABOUT THIS. OKAY. SO MR. PETTY, WHEN THE APPLICANT MADE THE APPLICATION, UH, OR WERE THEY MADE AWARE OF HOW WE'RE DOING A COMPENSATION FOR THE VACATION OF THE HOUR? YEAH, SO WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THAT AND, UM, I, I MET LAST WEEK WITH THEIR LEGAL REPRESENTATION JUST TO WALK THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS AND WE SENT THE UPDATED ONES THAT ARE FOLLOW OUR NEW POLICY FOR THE ASSESSED VALUE, BUT ALSO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT TONIGHT IS JUST TO DISCUSS IF COUNSEL'S OPEN TO VACATING IT, AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE COSTS COMPENSATION LATER. BUT WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION ABOUT THAT AND I'VE SHARED THE SPREADSHEETS WITH YOU. HAS STAFF ALSO REVIEWED, UH, THE ALLEY OR ALLEYS THE LAND TO BE VACATED FOR ANY, UM, CONDITIONS THAT MAY SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT? SO, UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS THREE PROPOSED MOTIONS. UM, ONE WOULD REQUIRE A TITLE EXAM AND THE VIEWERS TO OBVIOUSLY TO UNDERSTAND BETTER IF THERE WAS ANY IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC. AND THEN ALSO IN THE COMMENTS AND IN THE SURVEY, THEY HAVE MET THEIR SURVEYOR, MET WITH OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF ON SITE TO IDENTIFY ANY EXISTING UTILITIES AND MAKE SURE WE'RE CARVING OUT ANY NECESSARY, UH, UTILITY EASEMENTS AS PART OF IT AS WELL. SO THEY STAFF'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEIR SURVEYOR TO DEFINE THOSE RATIONALE, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE VIEWERS WOULD HELP. I WILL SAY IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEYS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIALS, THE PROPERTY, AND I THINK THEIR DESCRIPTION, THEY'VE BEEN UTILIZING THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S, IT'S GONE AS IF IT'S BEEN PART OF THE PROPERTY. AND I DO BELIEVE EVEN SOME OF THE ASSESSMENTS HAVE EVEN DESCRIBED IT AS THE ALLEY AS PART OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY, UM, FOR AT LEAST I BELIEVE TWO OF THEM. SO IT'S GONE ON FOR MANY YEARS AS IF THEY OWN IT, BUT BY LEGAL MEANS, AND AS I THINK THEY DISCOVERED, THEY DON'T, YOUR OPINION, MR. PETTY, THAT WE NEED TO SEND VIEWERS OUT? I BELIEVE SO. JUST, UH, JUST TO ENSURE. YES. ALRIGHT. MR. COUNCILMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. YOU GOOD? YOU GOOD? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN. I'M ALRIGHT. YOU ANSWERED IT. OKAY. YEAH. YES. DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN POTENTIALLY PAYING THEIR TAXES TO THE COUNTY AS IF, IF THEY OWNED THIS LAND FOR AT LEAST TWO PRIOR? IT MAY BE LONGER THAN THAT. IT WAS SO THAT, UH, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND SURVEYORS AND THAT'S DISCUSSED. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE TAX ASSESSMENT, IT'S FOR AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE TWO, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL AREA, WHICH WOULD BE ACTUAL PROPERTY AND THE ALLEY OR STREET, UNIMPROVED STREET THAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING TO PURCHASE. WELL, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN OCCUPYING THIS WHAT, 19 56, 7, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ACTUAL BUILDINGS. I THINK IT MIGHT, SOME MIGHT PREDATE THAT, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE, I THINK THE APPLICANT MIGHT KNOW THAT. DOES COUNSEL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO, UH, IT IS UP TO YOU. WE ALWAYS GIVE THE APPLICANTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE IF THEY WANT TO. AND THEN THAT ALSO, IF COUNCIL HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, STAFF, DID YOU HAVE REQUESTS STAFF OR FOR THEM, FOR STAFF? SO MY FINAL QUESTION IS, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE'VE BEEN UNANIMOUS IN APPOINTING COMMITTEE OF VIEWERS, BUT HAS IT ALREADY, I DIDN'T SEE NOTES IN THIS FROM LIKE PUBLIC WORKS, THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT. UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE REVIEWED BY STAFF? I MEAN, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, I THINK THEY WERE IN WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION, BUT THEY COMMENTED AND I THINK EVERY, IF I RECALL, AND I CAN PULL 'EM UP, BUT THEY WERE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH JUST THE UTILITY EASEMENTS WERE IMPORTANT. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN JUST ENSURING THAT IT WAS PART OF THE FRONT ROW RIVERTON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY, RIGHT. OF LIGHT. OH, THE UTILITIES IN THE ALLEY. NOW THERE'S A STORMS THAT WERE IN THERE. YES. WE, WE LOOKED FOR WATER. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S WATER THAT WAS JUST ON FIFTH STREET, ON THE ACTUAL STREET, AND WE WOULD NOT BE VACATING ANY OF THE ACTUAL STREETS THAT ARE THERE. IT'S JUST THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES. MR. SONNA, I BELIEVE, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE TASK OF THE VIEWERS IS TO DETERMINE INCONVENIENCE [00:15:01] TO THE PUBLIC. THE TOWN'S INTEREST WITH RESPECT TO UTILITIES IS MORE TO THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT THE TOWN WANTS TO VACATE AT ALL. I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO MAKING A DECISION ON WHICH MOTION WE THOUGHT WAS THE BEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TONIGHT, THAT WE HAD TOWN INPUT. THAT'S ALL. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE AN INTEREST IN SHARING ANYTHING. IT REALLY TRULY IS NO PRESSURE OR THE OTHER THING IS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE ALLOW, UM, WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. SO WOULD YOU PREFER THE LATTER OF THOSE? YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN, I'LL BE, I WASN'T, MY NAME IS DANIEL POND. I'M, I'M, UH, AT 35 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE IN FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA. I'M AN ATTORNEY IN TOWN. I REPRESENT ZUCKERMAN METALS. WE, WE, ALL I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. MR. ZUCKERMAN IS HERE ON BEHALF OF ZUCKERMAN METALS. MR. BROGAN'S HERE AS A, UH, THE, UH, SURVEYOR THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S DONE THE, THE SURVEYS FOR THIS AND, UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, HE CAN SPEAK TO IT IF HE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'VE UTILIZED THE LAND PAY TAXES ON THE LAND FOR PROBABLY MOST OF THE, MOST OF THEIR EXISTENCE THERE IN THAT PROPERTY. IT WAS JUST, WE DISCOVERED THAT, THAT THEY MIGHT NOT, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BOUNDARIES THAT THEY, THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, HERE TODAY. BUT THERE'S, SO THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON THAT LAND, IF ANYONE, UM, ON, LIKE I SAID, I THINK, UH, ON ONE OF THEM THERE'S THREE LOTS. THE NEXT THREE THING, UH, TWO OF 'EM, I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY HAD THEN ONE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE HAS THAT, THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE, UH, UM, THE COUNTY ASSESSMENT. UM, BUT I'M NOT, AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH, WHICH ONE IS THIS ONE IS, BUT IT'S THE EAST FIFTH AND HAPPY CREEK. THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT THAT'S SEPARATE. THAT, THAT WAS, THAT THEY HAVE, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE THE TRIANGLE. IS THAT THE TRIANGLE PIECE? MM-HMM . YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT, BUT THERE IS, I THINK THERE, THERE WAS BUILT, THERE MIGHT BE A, A STRUCTURE ON THERE THAT'S BEEN UTILIZED FOREVER AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. LIKE I SAID, ANY OF US WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'LL HAVE. OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? MR. POND? OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL. I MOVE THAT COUNSEL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL VACATION AND SALE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT. SECOND. SECOND. HEY, THERE'S A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION I'LL ADD TO THAT DISCUSSION SINCE I MADE THE MOTION THAT THIS IS NOT TYPICALLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR OF DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL. UM, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE IS VALUE IN APPOINTING A COMMITTEE OF VIEWERS, UM, TO GET THE PUBLIC'S INPUT AND TO OFFER MORE KNOWLEDGE FROM WHAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND OR ARE CAPABLE OF, UM, NOT BEING IN THOSE POSITIONS. HOWEVER, HEARING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR HOW MANY YEARS IS UNKNOWN, I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD FOUND THE LAND AND WE SHOULD BE DONE WITH THIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WOULD ECHO THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, WE'RE ALL, UH, PUT PUT TO REST ANY EASEMENTS OR RIGHT OF WAYS THAT CONCERN THE TOWN FOR ANY UTILITIES NOW OR IN THE FUTURE. SO I'M GOOD WITH IT AS WELL. ANYBODY ELSE? JUST GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. GO AHEAD. JUST REAL QUICK. UM, AS VICE MAYORAL SAID ABOUT, UH, VIEWERS THAT WE WON OFTEN PERFORMANCE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, UM, MY TWO ECHO, THE, THE SENTIMENT OF THEM PAYING IF THEY'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON IT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S RAISES MY RAISE. MY EAR BROKE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL YOU GUYS SAID THAT, BUT, UH, THE FACT THAT I, I KNOW, I KNOW WHERE THE AREA IS AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH, IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM MY HOUSE, AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY ELSE EVER USING THAT AREA. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYBODY PLAYING BALL OR ANY KIDS PLAYING BALL THERE OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, HAVING PICNICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO GIVEN THE LOCATION OF WHERE IT IS, IT IS, IT'S PRETTY ISOLATED, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEAR OUR RAILROAD TRACK, ALL, ALL PLACES. SO I, UH, I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD MYSELF TO BE HONEST. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. UM, I, I'M WILLING TO GO, GO, UH, WITH, WITH THE MOTION, HOWEVER, I, I WOULD'VE OPTED, UH, UH, TO ASK, BASICALLY TO APPROVE IT CONDITIONALLY, UH, WITH THE TITLE EXAMINATION. UH, I THINK THE TITLE EXAMINATION IS IMPORTANT. DOESN'T THAT HAVE TO BE SATISFIED FOR THEM TO CLOSE DESPITE APPOINTING VIEWERS? ABSOLUTELY. UM, NO. UM, IT, IT'S A QUICK CLAIM DEED. [00:20:06] OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION. UM, WE'RE READY FOR ROLL CALL. GREAT. AND I MEAN, I, I CAN MAKE THAT, I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION. I, I WAS, I WAS PAUSING STEVE. ANYBODY WAS GONNA, I'LL, I'LL JUST, I'LL, I'LL JUST MAKE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO PUT IT OUT THERE. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNSEL ADOPT ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL VACATION AND SALE REQUEST FROM THAT APPLICANT CONDITIONALLY, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A TITLE EXAMINATION TO THE TOWN MANAGER. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION DIES ABOUT A SECOND. AND SO WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, CORRECT. MS. PRESLEY? YES. WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT THIS. WE'RE ALL, UM, FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION. COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR FEL? YES. COUNCILMAN ZILO? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAINT? YES. OKAY. SO OUR, UM, NEXT PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON REQUEST FROM ZUCKERMAN METALS FOR BRAID TO VACATE A PORTION OF AN UNIMPROVED STREET LOCATED BETWEEN EAST FIFTH STREET AND BOT 17. A COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON REQUEST FROM ZUCKERMAN METALS INCORPORATED TO CONDITIONALLY VACATE BOT ORDINANCE SERVED PUBLIC RIGHTS WAY ON A 14,443 SQUARE FOOT PORTION OF THE UNIMPROVED STREET LOCATED BETWEEN EAST FIFTH STREET AND LOT 17 A SOUTH END OF EAST FIFTH STREET, KNOWN AS AREA B. THE STREET WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED BY THE FRONT RON RIVERTON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY. THEREFORE, STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A TITLE EXAM. I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW, IT DOES NOT SAY EXAMINATION, AND IT DOES NOT SAY EXAMINE. THAT'S WHY I TRIPPED OVER IT. IT SAYS, EXAMINE BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT. CERTIFIED LETTERS WERE SENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THAT'S THE SUMMARY STAFF. UH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAD. ANYTHING DIFFERENT YOU ALL WANTED TO ADD? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MS. PRESLEY, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL. I MOVE THAT COUNSEL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL VACATION AND SEAL REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I, I, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT IN GENERAL ABOUT THIS, ABOUT TONIGHT BECAUSE A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE ALLUDED TO IT, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS. COUNSEL HAS GENERALLY IN THE PAST, BEFORE VACATING ALLIE'S APPOINTED A COMMITTEE OF VIEWERS NOT. UM, AND SO I THINK THIS SITUATION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER MM-HMM . UM, ALLEY VACATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IN THAT PEOPLE WERE ALREADY USING IT AND ASSUMED IT WAS THEIRS. AND SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE IN MY TIME ON COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE THEY WENT BACK IN HISTORY AND LOOKED AT THINGS AND DIDN'T REALIZE, UH, HOW THINGS WERE DIVIDED UP AND CUT UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE IF IN THE FUTURE THE COUNCIL DOES APPOINT, UM, A COMMITTEE OF VIEWERS, IT, IT WOULD BE BASED ON DIFFERENT FACTS. SO, UM, WE'LL JUST ADD TO THAT, THAT I WILL CONSISTENTLY ALWAYS MOVE TO APPOINT VIEWERS IF THEY HAVE NOT PAID TAXES FOR DECADES ON THE PROPERTY. . ALRIGHT. UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL, THEN WE WILL TAKE A VOTE. COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR VIVO? YES. COUNCILMAN SEA LOCK? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILWOMAN DE DEMON KA? YES. SO I AM, UH, 70 AS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REQUEST FROM TWO 18 EAST FOURTH STREET LLC TO VACATE A PORTION OF AN UNIMPROVED. RIGHT. HOLD ON, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE. RIGHT. DID I CLICK ON THE WRONG LINE? NO ONE DID NOT. 1, 2, 3. IT'S THE SAME ONE. SORRY. I WAS LOOKING FOR Z MEADOW'S NAME. THAT'S HOW I WAS, UH, COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REQUEST FROM TWO 18 EAST FOURTH STREET. LLC IS REQUESTING TO CONDITIONALLY VACATE BY ORDINANCE CERTAIN PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY OF A 12,914 SQUARE FOOT PORTION OF THE UNIMPROVED STREET LOCATED BETWEEN EAST FOURTH STREET AND LOT 16. THE STREET WAS ORIGINALLY FLOODED BY THE FRONT ROW AND RIVERTON IMPROVEMENT COMPANY. THEREFORE, STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A TITLE EXAMINE THE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT. CERTIFIED LETTERS WERE SENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. I'M GONNA ASSUME STAFF HAS NOTHING ELSE THEY WANNA ADD. [00:25:01] I'M GONNA ASSUME THE APPLICANT IS GOOD WITH WHATEVER, OR IS THERE EXTRA INFORMATION THIS TIME? WE JUST, UM, MAY WE JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THIS, UM, MR. ZUCK OR ZUCKERMAN METALS HAD TRANSFERRED THIS PROPERTY TO ANOTHER ENTITY, UM, AND THAT, THAT THAT TITLE, THAT DEED DID HAVE THIS, THIS LAND AS PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE, THE SURVEY AND, AND THE, AND THE, UM, DESCRIPTION HAD THIS LAND IN THERE. SO WE'RE GOING BACK AND TRYING TO FIX IT FOR THEM. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. MS. TY, HAS ANYBODY SAID SPEAK? NO. ANYBODY WISHES? OKAY. I'M PLACE THE HEARING COUNSEL, I MOVE THAT COUNSEL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL VACATION AND SALE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? I, I JUST WANNA ADD FOR THE PUBLIC WHO WILL WATCH THIS, READ ABOUT IT, THE PRESS I DO APPRECIATE AND VALUE STAFF'S INPUT AND I WAS NOT NEGLECTING THAT IN MY ORIGINAL MOTION FOR THE FIRST ONE, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A UNIQUE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COUNSEL HAS TO USE DISCRETION WITH. UM, SO I DO APPRECIATE STAFF'S INPUT AND I DO VALUE THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? PAYROLL CALL COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR VIAL? YES. COUNCILMAN LOC? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES. OKAY. MOTION SHOULD HAVE TO, OUR FIFTH PUBLIC HEARING OF THE NIGHT IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REQUEST FROM JAMES. HE TO VACATE A PORTION AVENUE AVENUE AND LOT FIVE COUNSEL'S REQUEST TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REQUEST FROM JANE SLAND TO CONDITIONALLY VACATE. BUT ORDINANCE CERTAIN PUBLIC RIGHTS TO WEIGH A 6,235 SQUARE FOOT PORTION OF THE UNIMPROVED RANDOLPH AVENUE BETWEEN WASHINGTON AVENUE AND LOT FIVE CERTIFIED LETTERS WERE SENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, AND STAFF, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, UH, BEFORE THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SURVEY, UM, AND IF YOU'VE SEEN THERE'S AN AERIAL MAP IN THERE, UM, THE TOWN HAS RECENTLY INSTALLED A CUL-DE-SAC IN THAT UH, AREA. IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE GIS WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT'S STILL OLDER. UM, WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT, UH, THE ORDINANCE BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THIS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT STAFF COMMENTS AS WELL, WE REQUESTED OUR STANDARD 20 FOOT DRAINAGE IN UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. AND ON THE RIGHT OR ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S CURRENTLY AT SIX FOOT. WE'VE REQUESTED THAT THAT BE MOVED TO A 10 FOOT RIGHT OF PLACE. SO THIS WOULD ACCOMMODATE OUR CURRENT STANDARDS FOR UTILITY EASEMENTS. UM, THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH MR. LIN. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING COSTS, WE'RE TALKING JUST THE VACATION OF IT. UM, THAT WOULD SATISFY STAFF. AND UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DO ALWAYS REQUEST THE VIEWERS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SOUGHT THESE EASEMENTS. WE'VE NOTED THOSE IN THE, THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY STATES, UH, REFERENCING THE SURVEY. BUT SINCE THE SURVEY HASN'T BEEN UPDATED TO THIS POINT, IN LIEU OF THAT, WE WOULD JUST, UH, DESCRIBE THOSE TWO EASEMENTS IN LANGUAGE VERSUS WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO EXPEND MORE MONEY IN CREATING A SURVEY IF IT WERE DENIED. SO RATHER THAN THEM GETTING A NEW SURVEY AND MOVING LINES AND STUFF, WE JUST SAID 20 FOOT EASEMENT ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND A 10 FOOT EASEMENT ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY. UM, AND THAT WILL BE WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAD AT THIS POINT IS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I KNOW MR. HELEN IS HERE AS WELL. WELL, I'M GONNA START OFF FIRST. DOES COUNSEL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SAME QUESTION AS BEFORE. AS THE APPLICANT BEEN INFORMED THE COST OF THIS AND IS IN AGREEMENT TO PAY IT. CORRECT? HE HAS BEEN SHARED THE COST. UH, MR. HEFLIN HAS QUESTIONED WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THE LAND THAT IS UNDERNEATH OF THE EASEMENTS. THAT WOULD BE HIS QUESTION. SO HE'S GIVING THE TOWN A 20 FOOT EASEMENT. WOULD HE BE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE EASEMENT? UM, RIGHT NOW HE HAS WHAT THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE. UM, I I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE PART OF A, A, A FUTURE DISCUSSION ARISE AT THAT TIME, BUT HE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT IN THE PAST. AND HE IS THE ONLY ABUTTING AS, UH, MR. SHAUNA, HE'S THE ONLY, THE OTHER ABUTTING OWNER IS NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILROAD. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEIR LAND ABOUT GETTING A HOLD OF HER. AND USUALLY IN THE PAST, IF, IF, UH, IF AN, IF LAND WAS VACATED, [00:30:01] THE NEGOTIATION PIECE OF IT HAPPENED AFTER THAT. SO WE'LL JUST. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THE STATEMENT IN THE NOTE, THE RECOMMENDED 20 FOOT DRAINAGE MM-HMM . UTIL EASEMENT. THE WORDING IS, DOES NOT APPEAR. SO DOES IT OR DOESN'T IT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR ON THE SURVEY THAT THEY REVIEWED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY, IT CURRENTLY SAYS 10 FOOT, SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR 20. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SHARED WITH MR. HEFLIN. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE IN THE, RATHER THAN REFERENCING THE PLAT, IT WOULD JUST REFERENCE A 20 FOOT WIDE IN THE ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKET, IT WOULD SAY A 20 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT. AND THEN WE WOULD AMEND THAT TO JUST, RATHER THAN SAYING, LOOK AT THE PLAT, WE WOULD ACTUALLY WRITE, PUT THAT IN WRITING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. I APOLOGIZE. UM, IF APPROVED AND THIS WERE TO BE RECORDED AND, AND THE SALE GOES THROUGH AN UPDATED SURVEY WOULD BE REQUIRED, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THIS AND WE WOULD HAVE AN UPDATED SURVEY COMPLETED. AND WE'VE SPOKEN WITH MR. HEFLIN AND MR. MERCHANT DID THIS AND HE WOULD GET THAT DONE FOR IN CONSOLIDATION. CORRECT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THAT, THAT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR THAT. IT'S JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY. ARE YOU GOOD? YES, MA'AM. MR. MR. PETTY EXPRESSED WHAT YOU WANTED TO KNOW. OKAY. UM, I'M GONNA OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. MS. TY, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK? NO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL VACATION UNTIL REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT. SECOND. UH, SO SORRY. UH, MADAM MAYOR. SO THE ORDINANCE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE AS MR. PETTY OUTLINED. OKAY. WELL, SO IT'S, IT'S AS PRE THESE MOTIONS THAT WERE ALLOWED, THAT WERE PRESENTED FOR US TO USE DID AND INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE DO A SUBSTITUTE MISSION THAT INCLUDES LANGUAGE AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT AND IT WOULD BE THE LANGUAGE THAT MR. PETTY RECOMMENDED? DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? YEAH, IF YOU COULD, SOMEBODY CAN WRITE IT DOWN. SO CAR IT IS NOW ON PROPER TIME. OKAY. UM, WE WOULD STRIKE AS SHOWN ON THE AFFIRMATION PLAT OF SURVEY AND REPLACE THAT WITH 20 FOOT WIDE DRAINAGE, E AND EASEMENT RUNNING ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AT A 10 FOOT WIDE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT RUNNING ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. ALL AS SHOWN ON A SURVEY TO BE ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE DEED AT THE SALE PRICE NEGOTIATED THAT THAT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY COULD WRITE DOWN. SO, SO THE MOTIONS ALREADY THERE, LIKE I'M NOT, I MEAN NOT, I WAS TRYING RECORDING, BUT YOU KNOW, MS. PRESLEY AND MR. S SO THE MOTION ALREADY HAPPENED AND THERE WAS A SECOND. SO SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT FIRST OR GO AHEAD AND DO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SUBSTITUTE OR AMENDED MOTION, PLEASE. PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UM, I MEAN, WHO DOES, BRUCE GOTTA READ ALL THAT. IS THAT THE ? JUST LET HIM READ IT. UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA TAKE IT BACK. BRUCE. I WOULD USED TO SAY LIKE, I MOVE THE COUNCIL, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, INCLUDING THEN BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. WASN'T I'M TRYING TO MAKE, I'M SORRY. WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE PACKET OR PROBABLY WOULD'VE AMENDMENT JUST ME TO IT THOUGH. I WAS GOING, I'LL TRY IT. JOSH, WOULD YOU PREFER TO READ THE SUB? DO YOU WANNA DO THE SUB MAYOR PRESENTED THE FOLLOWING? BRUCE READ? YEAH. BRUCE READS IT CAN BE A AMEN. ALL BETTER TO CATCH IT NOW THAN DIDN'T HAVE TO SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY SECONDED IT. OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I MAY I MOVE THAT COUNSEL, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED RUNNING ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AND A 10 FOOT WIDE DRAINAGE UTILITY EASEMENT RUNNING ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY, ALL AS SHOWN ON A SURVEY. [00:35:01] IS THERE A SECOND ACCURATE? IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? AND THE SECOND COUNCILMAN WOOD SECONDED IT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, SINCE THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, MS. PRESSLEY, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? WHO IS THE SECOND ON THE FIRST COUNCILMAN WOOD? OH, ON THE FIRST ONE OF WAS AMBER? YEAH. COUNCILMAN WOOD ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YES. VICE MAYOR AL? YES. COUNCILMAN LOC? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPOR? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILWOMAN DE DEMON PAYNE? YES. A MOTION PASSES. AND SO, UM, OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 12 AND CHAPTER 70, PERTAINING TO ELECTRICITY FEES AND PROCEDURES. COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 12 FEES AND CHAPTER 70 ELECTRICITY PERTAINING TO AN INCREASE IN SPECIFIC FEES AND REFLECT CURRENT PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES. PORTIONS OF THE FRONT RULE TOWN CODE HAVE BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE EARLY, UM, HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. AND RISING COSTS OF MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT AND LABOR REQUIRED THE NECESSARY REVISIONS AS PRESENTED. UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANYTHING STAFF WISHES TO SHARE? WE PRESENT THIS AT THE, NOTHING'S CHANGED FROM THE WORK SESSION. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SPELL HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION AND IT'S MORE OF A CLARIFICATION FOR SOCIAL MEDIA. SO IS THE TOWN GOING TO DOUBLE THE ELECTRICITY RATES? THANK YOU . SO CHRIS, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT THAT OUT THERE. I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT RENDER UP STARTED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY READ THIS SOMEHOW AND SAW SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT I DID NOT THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT IT MEANT, BUT NEVER HURTS TO CLARIFY THAT IN AN OPEN MEETING. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. UM, AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE WORD SESSION, BUT ON PAGE 68 OF OUR PACKET, OR IT SAYS, UM, THAT YOU GET PAST ALL THE RED AND, UM, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONNECTION CHARGES WILL BE BASED ON THE ESTIMATED TIME AND MATERIALS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND SHALL BE KEPT PAID TO THE TOWN PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK. AND THEN AFTER YOU COMPLETE THE WORK, THE TOWN WILL RECONCILE THE ESTIMATED PAYMENT WITH THE ACTUAL COMMON MATERIALS EXTENDED. SO I, I BELIEVE THIS IS MOSTLY FOR COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USERS OR, OR DEVELOPERS. MY QUESTION IS, SO IF I PAID FOR WORK IN ADVANCE OR, OR AND, UM, AT AN ESTIMATED RATE AND THEN YOU COME BACK TO ME AND I HAVE NO WARNING, THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. SO I WANNA KNOW, LIKE DO WE HAVE A CAP ON THAT? WHAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION HAPPENS IN BETWEEN? I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU, IF IF THE THE RATE REALLY BLOSSOMS BETWEEN THE TIME IT WAS ESTIMATED AND ACTUAL? I MEAN, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING, NO TIME, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. WELL, TIME OR TIME WARNING AND, AND AMOUNT. SO LIKE WHEN YOU'RE DOING A CONSTRUCTION JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU, IF IT'S GONNA GO LIKE OVER 10% OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IF GOOD THE SERVICES CHANGE, WE WOULD REACH OUT AND LET 'EM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS JUST, SAY THE TRANSFORMER COST WENT UP, WE'D REACH OUT AND LET 'EM KNOW THE PRICE BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE A TRANSFORMER TO GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST COSTS WOULD BE A TRANSFORMER. SO IF WE WENT OUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY THE PROJECT STARTED IN AUGUST, BUT IT DIDN'T GET ROLLING UNTIL JANUARY. WELL THAT SIX MONTHS, THE PRICE OF THE TRANSFORMER COULD GO UP. SO WE WOULD REACH BACK OUT TO 'EM, LET 'EM KNOW, HEY, THE PRICE OF THE TRANSFORMER WENT UP $10,000, IS THIS PROJECT STILL A GO? THAT WOULD BE OUR BEST SUGGESTION THAT WE WOULD GET. AND I CAN SPEAK TO THAT FROM WORKING IN IT DURING MY DAY JOB PROFESSIONALLY, WHEN I HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE TOWN FOR CONNECTION OF SERVICES FOR A NEW RESIDENTIAL BILL. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT AND I'M LIKE, WE DON'T LIKE THE QUOTE ON YOUR MATERIALS. WE'LL BUY OUR OWN MATERIALS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN WE GO AND TRY TO DO THAT AND THEN YOU CAN'T DO IT BETTER OR CHEAPER. SO WE REACHED BACK OUT TO THEM, THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT US TO DO IT. AND THAT COMMUNICATION IS LIKE INSTANTANEOUSLY, UM, FOR METER BOXES. ANYTHING I'VE HAD TO DO WITH THE ELECTRICITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, COMMUNICATION WISE, THEY STAY IN CONSTANT CONTACT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT FOR ANY TYPE OF CONNECTION TO ANY OF THE SERVICES WITHIN THE TOWN. AND RESIDENTIAL IS A FLAT FEE. SO THAT'S NOT, THIS WILL BE COMMERCIAL. OH, THIS ONE'S ALWAYS A COMMERCIAL. WELL, HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT. WELL, I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST SAW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU RECONCILE [00:40:01] IT, BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY COMMITMENT NECESSARILY IN THE LANGUAGE THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONTACT THEM IF IT'S GONNA GO OVER 10% OR WE HAVE TO CONTACT THEM IF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AT SOME POINT DURING THE, YOU KNOW, GIVE 'EM ADVANCE NOTICE. SO ANYWAY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S FEASIBLE. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT, BUT I I I DO KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT GETTING SLAMMED IN THE END WITH A BIGGER BILL THAN YOU ANTICIPATED. SO, YOU KNOW, WELL, I'LL LOOK AT IT AS A WAY OF A LITTLE BIT OF INCENTIVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INCENTIVE IN A WAY BECAUSE, UM, TO GET YOUR, YOU KNOW, GET YOUR PROJECT GOING, NOT JUST SET OFF FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING A BLACK EYE BECAUSE, WELL, ESPECIALLY TRANSPORT. LIKE I, I KNOW I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND THAT PRICES, WELL, WE'VE SEEN IN OUR OWN COUNCIL OVER, WE APPROVED, UH, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE THEM THIS PAST YEAR, HOW, HOW DRAMATICALLY HAVE GONE UP. BUT I'VE SEEN IT JUST OUTSIDE OF THIS TOWN HOW HELL THEY ARE AND LEAD TIMES ON 'EM ALONE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM. YOU, IT'S NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONNECTION THERE LIKE THAT, IF THAT MAGNITUDE, THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE CIRCUMSTANCE. LIKE, LOOK, THIS IS MOVING TARGET, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT IT NOW, IT'S NOW. BUT YOU KNOW, I I I, I AGREE WITH IT. I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS FROM NOW IT MAY, IT MAY SPIKE UP 10% AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY REACH OUT AT THAT POINT. AND THAT'S ALL I WAS ATTESTING TO IS THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN IMPECCABLE EVEN ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. UM, MAYOR CORPORAL, TO YOUR POINT, APPARENTLY PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AS INCREASING OUR RATE. I DO JUST WANNA SAY, WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THIS PRESENTATION AT A WORK SESSION, I BELIEVE IT WAS STATED THAT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF UPDATES ON THIS, WE WERE ACTUALLY SUBSIDIZING THE COSTS OF THE TOWN WE WERE EATING IT. SO FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO THINK IT'S DOUBLING THEIR ELECTRICITY RATES, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TAX INCREASES, THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT HELPS NEGATE THAT BY NOT SUBSIDIZING SOMETHING THAT THE AVERAGE TAX PAYER SHOULD NOT HAVE ON THEIR BACK ENERGY SERVICES FEESS FOR PRIVATE SECTORS. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MS. LEY? NO. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? AND I'LL GET, UM, ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP THE COUNCIL. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL WITHOUT ORDINANCE TO CHAPTER 12 FEES IN CHAPTER 70, ELECTRICITY PERTAINING TO FEES AND PROCEDURES AS PRESENTED. THERE'S A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU TO THE STAFF. THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL SAY IS, UH, AND I, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A BIG ISSUE OUT OF IT, WAS I LOOKED AT NUMBER FOUR PAGE PART OF 70 DASH 50, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS AND CHARGES. UM, IT WAS UNDER FOUR C WHERE IT WAS TALKING ABOUT GRID IMPACT, UH, ASSESSMENTS. UM, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE UNDER POWER DELIVERY PLAN FROM ENERGY PROVIDER AND IMPACT, UH, SHALL INCLUDE BACKUP GENERATOR PLANS. UH, IF ANYONE CAN LISTEN TO THE NEWS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN A BIG SUBJECT MATTER, UH, AROUND THE STATE. UH, AND IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT THE ELECTRICITY, IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, HOW WE CAN PREP, WE, WE CAN, UH, PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S IN THERE. UM, AND, BUT UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE FAMILY AS WE GO FORWARD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEY, MS. PRESLEY. OH, WAIT, NO, I'M SO SORRY. YEAH, NO, WE MADE THE MOTION. SORRY. SORRY. YEAH. COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR AUGH? YES. COUNCILMAN OCK? YES. COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? YES. COUNCILMAN INGRAM? YES. COUNCILWOMAN DE DEMON PAYNE? YES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT'S THE END OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT NO ONE ELSE. QUITE A BIT. NO. ASKED FROM WHAT I THOUGHT THERE. UM, SO AT THIS TIME WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARING AND SEND ME READING THIS LONG DIRECTIONS. LET ME JUST ASK FIRST MS. TRUSTEE OR ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE HAVE ONE. OKAY. WELL, HERE WE GO. WE NOW COME TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. IT IS THE DUTY OF THE MAYOR TO CONDUCT THIS MEETING IN AN ORDERLY MANNER. PERSONS ADDRESSING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE ASKING THAT THEIR REMARKS TO THOSE RELEVANT TO THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN OF FRONT [00:45:01] ROYAL, NO PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE SHALL BE ALLOWED TO VOICE REMARKS. EXCEPTANCE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OR THE CLERK OF COUNCIL. UPON RECOGNITION BY THE MAYOR, THE CLERK COUNSEL THE SPEAKER SHALL STATE THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND INDICATE IF THEY'RE A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF FRONT, WILL DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR. AND COUNSEL SHALL NOT ADDRESS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING BEING HELD DURING THE SAME MEETING. STAY WITHIN THE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. AFTER THAT TIME IS EXPIRED, MICROPHONE WILL BE CUT OFF. REFRAIN FROM WORDS OR STATEMENTS WHICH ARE DEFAMATORY TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS OR DISPLAY OTHER DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT INCLUDING XFINITY AND VULGARITY GROUPS OR INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE, CREATING AN ATMOSPHERE DETRIMENTAL TO OR DISTURBING. THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF THE MEETING WILL BE WORN TO REFRAIN FROM SUCH CONDUCT. AND THE ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCE AFTER THE WARNING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THE AREA. NO OTHER CHOICE. BUT TO ASK THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS OUR CHIEF HERE TONIGHT, TO REVIEW THE INDIVIDUAL GROUP. WE CLEAR THE ROOM SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN. MS. PRESLEY, WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SORRY, SOMEBODY WANTS TO MARK BAUER. SORRY. I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK BAUER. I LIVE AT TEN SEVEN GLENVIEW DRIVE HERE IN FRONT ROYAL. UH, I BOUGHT ESTATES, BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 28 YEARS. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AT, UH, AMERICAN 18, POST 53 HERE IN TOWN. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR OUR POSTERS THAT YOU PUT UP IN TOWN. UM, IT'S WELL RECEIVED. WE JUST WISH WE COULD DO MORE, WHICH I'VE ALREADY SPOKE TO MR. PERRY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, A CONVERSATION WITH SOME MORE OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, BUT I DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE. UH, PRIOR TO THIS EVENING, I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF GOING THROUGH SEVERAL LOCAL, UH, TOWNS TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE AS FAR AS THEIR POSTERS ARE CONCERNED. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT FRONT ROYAL IS THE SMALLEST AROUND, UH, THE BULK OF 'EM SEEMED TO BE 20 BY 40, 30 BY 40. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A TIME LIMIT THAT'S NO BIG. I UNDERSTAND THAT BIG TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED. THAT BEING SAID, YOU CAN GO TO BERRYVILLE, YOU CAN GO TO MIDDLETOWN, WHEREVER, AND AS YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THE POSTERS. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT WE CAN'T. YOU'D HAVE TO STOP AND WALK TO REALLY GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON. SO MY CONCERN IS THIS, EXCUSE ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE POSTERS AFTER THE TWO YEAR PERIOD. WE CAN MAKE YOU ONE HECK OF A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED, MYSELF INCLUDED. I'M SURE MR. WOULD LIKE TO GET ON THAT. THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM LARGER AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING, UH, WITH THE EX WITH THE COMMITTEE AND MR. PERRY AND GET THIS DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT UP. I JUST WISH WE'D HAD MORE OPPORTUNITY TO, I SAW THE NOTICE AND WITHIN TWO WEEKS BEFORE I PUT MY NAME IN, IT WAS FULL. I SAID, WELL, DANG, I TRY THIS AGAIN. IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT DAYS WHEN THEY WERE FULL. SO TELL ON THE NOTICE BEING OUT. YEAH, WELL, AND, AND ON BEHALF OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE HELPING FUND THESE THINGS. UH, FOR ALL $75 A PIECE, MOST THAT I HAD LOOKED INTO ARE 200 TO 250. I HAD ONE $300. UH, BUT THE FAMILIES, FAMILIES WILL DO IT IN A HEARTBEAT. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO RECOGNIZE. YOU ALL DON'T REALIZE THERE'S LESS THAN 1% OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER TO SERVE THE MILITARY. SO IT'S, IT'S HUMBLING. IT'S, UH, IT'S GRATIFYING AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE US TO DO A, A BETTER JOB AND EXPLOIT IT IN A, IN A BIGGER FASHION, ESPECIALLY THE SIZE OF THE POSTER. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK MARK. ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHED US TO SPEAK TONIGHT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE, UH, THE TOWN MANAGER. UH, THANK MADAM MAYOR COUNSEL. UM, JUST HAD A FEW COMMENTS TONIGHT AND A BIG ONE FOR ME WAS, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE JUST GATHER SNOWSTORM TURNED TO ICE AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO THANK OUR, UH, TEAM HERE AT THE TOWN. YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, ENERGY SERVICES, PD FOLKS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THEN ALL OF OUR STAFF'S FAMILIES WHO ALLOWED THEIR, UH, LOVED ONES TO BE OUT HERE HELPING US GET IT DONE. YOU KNOW, WE MOBILIZED LAST SATURDAY AT 6:00 PM TO START HITTING IT. AND WHILE PUBLIC WORKS WAS GETTING READY FOR THE SNOW ENERGY SERVICES WAS OUT CHANGING TRANSFORMERS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE, UM, UH, IN TOWN HAD, UH, POWER AS THEY HEADED INTO THE STORM. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WORKING TO FIX THINGS OBVIOUSLY TOO. YOU KNOW, IT WAS A UNIQUE STORM. AS SOON AS IT STOPPED, EVERYTHING [00:50:01] JUST FROZE UP AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE WERE THE ONLY ONES ALONE IN THAT. SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO FOLKS LIKE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, UM, THE, UH, BUILDERS ASSOCIATION TO SEE, UM, WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH AN OPERATION PLAN AFTERWARDS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AT THE NEXT STORM TO BE PREPARED. UM, AND WE'RE ALL JUST PRAYING THAT THE GROUNDHOG WAS WRONG TODAY AND THAT WE SPRING IS COMING. UM, 'CAUSE NOW OUR STAFF'S BEEN OUT ALMOST EVERY DAY DOING WATER MAIN BREAKS. SO NOW WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THAT. SO WE JUST WANTED TO COMMEND ALL THE TEAM HERE AT THE TOWN WHO REALLY STEPPED UP TO MAKE IT THROUGH THAT. AND JUST ONE LAST NOTICE IS THAT TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED MONDAY, FEBRUARY 16TH FOR PRESIDENT'S DAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE THE REPORT COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? FIRST, I WILL SAY IS I WENT OUT, UH, ON SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN, WHEN THE JUDGE STARTED, AND I STOPPED AND TALKED TO THE PEOPLE ON VIRGINIA AVENUE TO THANK THEM FOR WHAT THEY WERE DOING OUT THERE IN THE COURT. IT WAS BITTER OUT THERE WHEN THEY WERE CLIMB. I, NOT CLIMBING, BUT GOING UP IN THE BUCKET. AND, UH, I THINK THEY REALLY DID A TIMELY, THEY DID A TIMELY MAGNET. THE PEOPLE HAD TO POWER BACK IN WHAT, LIKE, TWO, THREE HOURS? PROBABLY, I THINK. YEAH, IT WAS TWO HOURS. BUT, UH, AND THE GUYS THAT WERE PLOWING THE SNOW, I KNOW WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH SOME PEOPLE. UH, SO THE CONTRACTS DID A GREAT JOB. UM, I MEAN, THEY HEADED DOWN LIKE ALMOST THE ASPHALT FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THE ICE HIT AND, UH, EVERYTHING WENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE. BUT, UM, BUT AGAIN, THANK AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I SAW THEM OUT MOVING AROUND AND DOING THINGS, AND I NEED TO THANK THEM FOR BEING OUT IN THE COLD. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK Y'ALL HAD THAT MANY WRECKS DID YOU? CHIEF? BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE OUT MOVING AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE 'EM OUT THERE DOING IT EVEN IN THE COLD AND GETTING OUT AND HELPING PEOPLE. UH, BUT AGAIN, THANKS TO TO THE ROAD CREWS, THANKS TO THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT AND THANKS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE JOB. THEY'RE DONE FOR US. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? YEAH, I'LL JUDGE. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS PRETTY SHORT FOR ME. I HAVE A, I JUST WANTED, I WANTED TO, UH, UH, ADD ON TO, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, AS WELL AS THE TOWN MANAGER. UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE WHAT PUBLIC'S WORK WORKS DID DURING THE STORM. UH, THE ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT KEPT IT, KEPT THE LIGHTS ON, UH, THE ELECTRIC. UM, UH, ONE THING THAT UM, UH, REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU DROVE AROUND TOWN AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WAS DOING THE BEST THAT THEY COULD, BUT YOU COULDN'T, YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH SOMETHING WHEN THE SNOW IS COMING DOWN AND THEN THE TEMPERATURE DROPS TO ZERO AND EVERYTHING FREEZES OVER AND YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH THE SNOW. YOU GOTTA GET IT OFF THE ROADS. SO THERE'S NOT THE SIDEWALKS, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM ARE ALL COVERED UP STILL IN TOWN. AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING ON THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, BE CAREFUL, KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WALKING IN THE STREET. NOT EVERYBODY HAS A VEHICLE. AND, UM, UH, PARTICULARLY ON, I NOTICED IT ON SOUTH STREET, UH, YOU KNOW, PULL OVER INTO THE LEFT LANE IF YOU CAN GIVE 'EM AS MUCH ROOM AS POSSIBLE. UM, SO, UM, PRETTY MUCH, UH, MAYOR, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE. UH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THIS FEW THINGS OUT AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE STAFF WHAT THEY DID. THANKS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT TO REPORT, NEED TO REPORT? I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF. I'VE, I'VE DONE A LOT IN THE LAST MONTH, UM, THAT I HAD TO GIVE IT THE LAST ONE, BUT I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED TO HAVE CANCELED THAT MEETING BECAUSE UNLIKE COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT AND , I DID NOT GO OUT DRIVING AROUND IN IT LIKE THEY ADVISED US NOT TO DO, STAY OFF THE STREETS, GUYS. MM-HMM . UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENT THAT PUBLIC WORKS. THE GUYS IN THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT, ALL OF THEM, THEY WERE WORKING HARD. I'VE DEFENDED OUR STAFF FOR ANYBODY WHO'S HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'VE JUST BEEN UP AGAINST, YOU KNOW, UNPRECEDENTED. I READ YESTERDAY WAS THE COLDEST DAY IN SIX YEARS FOR OUR LOCALITY. SO ALL THAT BRINGS ME TO THE ONLY POINT I WANTED TO MAKE AT OUR REGULAR MEETING [00:55:01] LAST WEEK, WHICH BECAME MAGNIFIED THROUGH THIS LAST WEEK, WAS MOST PEOPLE RECEIVED AN EMERGENCY ALERT ON THEIR CELL PHONE, WHETHER THEY LIVED IN THE TOWN OF FORT ROYAL OR NOT. AND IT NOTIFIED YOU THAT, UH, SHENANDOAH VALLEY ELECTRIC AND RAPPAHANNOCK ELECTRIC MIGHT HAVE TO DO FORCED POWER OUTAGES TO PROTECT THE GRID DUE TO THE TEMPERATURES AND CONDITIONS THAT WE WERE FACING. AND ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2025, WE HAD A WORK SESSION WHERE WE GOT PROGRESS UPDATES REGARDING THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN CODE, DEFINING DATA CENTERS AND ADDING DATA CENTERS WITH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS BY SUP. AND AT THAT MEETING, I SAID SOMETHING EXTREME AND I SAID, LET'S BAN DATA CENTERS. PUT IT OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE PERSON THAT I'VE, I HAVE MAYBE ONE OR TWO WHO SAY THEY WANT 'EM. NONETHELESS, I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT MY GRANDMOTHER WHO I COULDN'T GET TO HAVING A FORCED POWER OUTAGE. AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT WE HAVE THE POWER AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DATA CENTERS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. CAN'T MAKE IT MAKE SENSE TO ME. SO DESPITE THE FACEBOOK WARRIOR SAYING THAT WE'VE ALL CONSPIRED BEHIND THESE MEETINGS TO BRING IN THE DATA CENTERS, AND WE'RE ALL GETTING SOME KIND OF KICKBACK, I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD TO REMIND PEOPLE TO WATCH THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING WHERE I PROPOSED TO BAN. AND IT WAS NOT THE FAVOR APPETITE, WHICH I RESPECT, BUT IT JUST BRINGS ME TO THIS. IT WAS LIKE AN AMPER ALERT THAT WENT OFF ON EVERY PHONE IN MY HOUSEHOLD THAT SAID, DUE TO THIS SEVERE TEMPERATURE DROP, UM, YOU MAY EXPERIENCE A FORCED POWER OUTAGE. AND, UM, IT JUST MAKES ME THINK ABOUT COMMON SENSE. AND, UM, NONETHELESS, I'M GONNA REITERATE IT FOR THE 15TH TIME. I DON'T THINK THE DATA CENTER BELONG IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES, MADAM MAYOR. UM, JUST TO HITCH ON WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID, CERTAINLY WANT TO, UH, UM, GIVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS OR POLICE AND ELECTRIC DEPARTMENTS, UH, KUDOS FOR DOING A GREAT JOB. UH, LIKE THE VICE MAYOR, UM, I FEEL LIKE WHEN EVERYBODY COMMENTS, WELL, THEY DIDN'T DO THIS, THEY DIDN'T DO THAT, I DON'T THINK SOME IN PUBLIC UNDERSTAND HOW LARGE AND DIFFICULT OF AN EVENT WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH. UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH EIGHT OR EIGHT PLUS INCHES OF SNOW AND THREE INCHES OF ICE. IT, IT CERTAINLY, UM, WAS A CHALLENGE. CONTINUES TO BE A CHALLENGE AS WE TRY TO CLEAN UP INTERSECTIONS. BUT, UM, AND, AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED, WELL, THEY COULDN'T GET TO A STORE DOWNTOWN, AND I'M THINKING PROBABLY THE STORE OWNER WASN'T THERE EITHER. , . SO I, AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T ENGAGE TO NONSENSE. IF SOMEBODY COMES TO ME AND THEY HAVE AN IDEA AND THEY HAVE A SOLUTION, I'LL LISTEN. BUT, UM, OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES WORK HARD AND YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE GOT ZERO DEGREES. I KNOW THE OTHER MORNING, THE OTHER MORNING OUR TRASH GUYS WERE PICKING UP TRASH IN SIX DEGREE WEATHER, AND I'M GONNA GO ON RECORD AGAIN. I KNOW WE'RE DOING A SURVEY ABOUT IT, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE COLD DOING IT WHEN A TRUCK CAN PICK THAT TRASH UP WITHOUT HAVING A MAN OUT THERE OR A WOMAN, A HUMAN BEING, HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT. SO I HOPE THAT WE'LL GET THE RESULTS BACK FROM THAT STUDY, PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE WHO CAN START BUYING SOME OF THESE TRUCKS THAT ELIMINATE A SOMEWHAT THANKLESS JOB, UH, WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES OR SIX DEGREES. SO, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, UH, HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE OVER SIDEWALKS AND WHAT'S THE TOWN GONNA DO ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS? WELL, THE SIDEWALKS ARE SO BAD. UH, UH, MR. PERRY EVEN TALKED ABOUT OUR CREW OUT TRYING TO OPEN UP THE PATH ALONG 55, THE PAID PATH THAT RUNS FROM, I BELIEVE JAMESTOWN TO WESTMINSTER. MM-HMM . AND THE DIFFICULT, WE HAD ACTUALLY USING A, A BOBCAT AND A FRONT END LOADER AND SUCH. UM, WE DO NEED TO BE CAREFUL AS COUNCILMAN, UH, RAPPAPORT SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING IN THE STREETS, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT THE PUBLIC, UM, TO GO OUT HERE AND OPEN UP THESE SIDEWALKS WHEN THERE'S PILES OF ICE HIGHER THAN ME OVER SIX FEET TALL. I DON'T THINK THAT IT, IT, IT IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TO GET, YOU KNOW, UH, THREE OR FOUR INCHES OUT THERE. YOU CAN SHOVEL IT OFF, BUT WHEN YOU PILE IT UP AND WE HAVE TO PILE IT TO, TO SCRAPE IT, EVEN THOUGH WE PILE SNOW OFF OF MAIN STREET, UM, THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SIDEWALK IS UNFORTUNATE. I THINK THE WEATHER CONDITIONS MAKE IT SO THAT IT, IT, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL [01:00:01] AND HARD TO DO IT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. YEP, GO AHEAD. WELL, I WAS GONNA PIGGYBACK FOR A SECOND. UH, OUR NATION'S CAPITAL HAD THE SAME THING WHERE, WHERE THE, UH, SNOW WAS PILED UP ON THE SIDEWALKS WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THE COMMUNITY. THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU'VE LIVED HERE FOR A FEW DECADES, EVEN THOUGH IN, MAYBE IN RECENT YEARS, THE WEATHER HAS NOT BEEN LIKE THAT, BUT THIS IS HOW THE WEATHER WAS. THE WEATHER USED IT. WE HAVE SNOWY WINTERS, YOU KNOW, WE JANUARY TO FEBRUARY AT LEAST, UM, IF NOT INTO MARCH AND APRIL. SO ANYBODY THAT MOVED HERE AND DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE GONNA HAVE SNOW BEAR WITH AGAIN. UM, BUT I WANTED TO REITERATE THE THANK YOU AS WELL. UM, AND ALSO JUST SUGGEST MAYBE BECAUSE I, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY RECEIVES THE PRICE TAG ON THEIR ELECTRIC BILL, BUT APPARENTLY THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE PAYING IT TO. BUT, SO MAYBE WE, IF IF THE THING GOES OUT ON SVEC OR REC, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, IF YOU LIVE IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, YOU'RE PROBABLY PAYING ELECTRIC TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND NOT REC OR SVEC. UM, IT WAS NOT APPLICABLE. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FIGURED OUT THE RANGE OF WHO THEY WERE GIVING NOTICES TO, BUT PEOPLE WERE VERY CONFUSED. UM, SO MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO DO A FOLLOW UP, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT CONFUSES PEOPLE ABOUT WHO THEY PAY ELECTRIC TO. UM, AND, UM, IT'S, OH, EVEN A BETTER IDEAS DURING THE STORM STAY OFF SOCIAL MEDIA. 'CAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY NEGATIVE ONLY BOARD GAMES. IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING ELSE TO DO. UM, BUT, UM, SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO COMPLAIN. I MEAN, THE, THE THING IS WHEN IT SNOWS, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN IN LIFE THAT ARE INCONVENIENT AND LET'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WAIT 24 TO 48 HOURS AND TAKE A BREATH AND ROLL WITH IT, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH LIFE WITH SOME INCONVENIENCE SOMETIMES. UM, AND, UH, THAT'S ENOUGH OF THE PREACHING. BUT, UM, THE ONLY THING I THINK I ATTENDED WAS LIAISON MEETING, UM, THIS MONTH. I WAS TRYING TO THINK BACK, BUT THIS, UH, JANUARY WENT VERY FAST AND, UM, WHEN WE WERE OUTTA COMMISSION A LOT, BUT THE LIAISON MEETING OF COURSE, WAS GOOD. SO I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES, UM, NAVIGATING, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED RELATIONS WITH THE COUNTY. I THINK, UM, I THINK WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME GOOD SPOTS. UM, SO WE'LL SEE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. THE MAYOR'S REPORT I WAS GONNA FOREGO, BUT, OH, I DID, I DID FORGET TO SAY THE, WELL, LET ME THINK. SHALL I GIVE HIM A SECOND TURN? NO, GO AHEAD BRAD. WAIT THE NEXT MONTH. WELL, I'M GETTING READY TO DO IT ANYWAY, SO I'LL BRING THAT UP. YOU'VE THREW MY NAME IN THERE. I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE. UM, AS AMBER SAID, I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST BEEN A BUSY MONTH, EVEN THOUGH REALLY WE'RE REPORTING ALL THE WAY BACK FROM DECEMBER 12TH. SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I'M NOT EVEN BRINGING UP DECEMBER, BUT I'LL START IN JANUARY. UM, SO I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY BOOK FAIR, UM, THAT ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS PUT TOGETHER FOR A LOCAL STUDENT, UM, WHO WAS HAVING REJECTION, LUNG, LUNG TRANSPLANT, REJECTION. AND THEN, UM, I, UH, ATTENDED A MEETING WITH THE SMITHSONIAN TOWN OF BROWN SMITHSONIAN. WE MET WITH, UM, SOME PEOPLE THERE. AND THEN ON THE 15TH, UM, I HAD A MEETING WITH LITTLE LEAGUE, UM, ABOUT THE STATE TOURNAMENT THAT'S COMING UP. AND THEN THAT NIGHT, COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT AND I, UM, WE DID ATTEND THE LIAISON MEETING AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, THAT WAS A GOOD ASSESSMENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BEST LIAISON MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED. UM, SO LOTS OF CONVERSATION, DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS GREAT. UM, UH, I ALSO ATTENDED THE FRONT ROW FIRE DEPARTMENT AWARDS CENTER. UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS AMAZING JUST TO SEE THEY, THE, THE YEARS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE WHEN THEY ARE SHARING. UM, AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT IS THE BINGO, AND I BELIEVE THEY WERE ABLE TO PAY OFF A FIRE TRUCK LIKE SEVERAL YEARS EARLIER AND NOW ARE USING THE, THE, THE BINGO PROCEEDS TO PUT TOWARDS PURCHASING THE NEXT ONE. AND THESE ARE LIKE, WELL, NIXON MIGHT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED, WELL, 29, WELL, WHATEVER THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AT THAT TIME, BUT IT WAS LIKE MILLION. LIKE, IT WASN'T LIKE A, THESE AREN'T LIKE, UH, SMALL PURCHASES. THESE ARE, ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, UM, PURCHASES. AND THEN, UM, SO I ALSO ATTENDED, UM, THE RECOVERY COURT MEETING, [01:05:01] UM, AND THEN THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, WHICH IS JUST GOING WONDERFUL. I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN. IT'S A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. LOTS OF QUESTIONS. I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LEARNING AND WE ARE LEARNING FROM THEM THINGS THAT THEY'RE ABOUT OR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT. UM, I, RIGHT BEFORE THE SNOW HIT, I ATTENDED THAT A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE START GAZER GALA. UM, AND THAT WAS ANOTHER WONDERFUL EVENT THAT, UM, WARREN COUNTY, THE FRONT ONE WARREN COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PUT THAT ON. AND THERE WERE AWARDS FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, BUT JUST TO SEE HOW MANY LIKE BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS AND THERE WAS A SPARK CLUB AWARD AND, UM, IT JUST TO SEE ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE WORKING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES. AND SO I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS A, A, A GREAT, UM, EVENT. AND THEN OF COURSE THE SNOW HIT AND THEN IT WAS HAD NOT BE GOING THAT WEEK, OBVIOUSLY. UM, AND, UH, LET'S SEE. WAS THERE SOMETHING, AND THEN, YEAH, AND THAT WAS IT. I WANNA COMMENT ON A COUPLE THINGS THAT OUR FRIEND SAID. ONE IS, UM, ACTUALLY THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW DID RESPOND TO PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT, UM, PANICKING THAT THEIR POWER WAS GONNA GO OFF, YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO THE TIMEFRAME DID RESPOND AND SAY THAT THIS IS NOT, THAT IT'S NOT US, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT I, BUT I DO RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, AND PROBABLY ONLY BECAUSE I KNEW THAT, BUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW THAT. SO THAT, THAT IS, THAT'S A VALUABLE THING TO SAY. UM, ABOUT THE WEATHER EVENT OVER THE LAST WEEK, A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS MY HUSBAND AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, NOT PRETTY OLD. I'M 59. WE WERE BOTH SAYING, I FEEL LIKE THIS MIGHT BE THE LONGEST I'VE EVER SEEN A WINTER WEATHER EVENT. WAIT, LET, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? YOU'RE 59. I'M SEVEN. WELL, YOU MIGHT, MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA, MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA COUNTERACT ME AGAIN. YOU'RE GONNA CONTRADICT ME AGAIN. . UM, BUT THE, I'VE NEVER SEEN A WEATHER EVENT AND THEN SEVEN DAYS OF BRE COLD TEMPERATURES, THERE MAY BE A WEATHER EVENT EVEN IN 96 WHEN WE HAD THREE FEET OF SNOW, YOU KNOW, BY THE THIRD OR FOURTH DAY THE TEMPERATURES WERE UP AND SOMETHING WAS MELTING. OF COURSE, THEN WE HAD FLOODS. BUT, UH, WHICH I WOULDN'T MIND A FLOOD RIGHT NOW TO TREAT ME . WE COULD USE A LITTLE WATER. UM, BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, IT IS JUST A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION AND I'M SAD WHEN PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY. AND AS FAR AS FOR PEOPLE SAYING, WHY CAN'T PEOPLE GET OUT THERE AND DO THIS? I WHEN SUNDAY, WHEN IT WAS COMING DOWN, WE WENT OUT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES BECAUSE MY HUSBAND HAD TO WORK MONDAY. SO WE WENT OUT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, CLEAR AT OUR DRIVEWAY ON MONDAY AFTER HE WENT TO WORK, I SPENT FOUR HOURS JUST TRYING TO DIG OUT A PATH SO HE COULD COME HOME. THEN I SPENT THREE HOURS THE NEXT DAY DIGGING OUT MY CAR, AND THE NEXT DAY, ANOTHER TWO HOURS, THE MALE LADY WOULD ACTUALLY DELIVER MY MAIL. AND THAT DAY I HAD TO PICK AX. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH. LIKE, MY WAS LIKE, DON'T HURT YOURSELF. WELL, I'VE SEEN THAT. UM, BUT THAT STUFF WAS BRUTAL. SO ANYBODY THAT THINKS THAT WE CAN JUST GO OUT THERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CLEAN OFF EVERY SIDEWALK, I I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE SNOW WOULD GO. SO I AM EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR OUR, UH, TOWN CREWS. AND HONESTLY, I JUST WANNA SAY TOO, WHILE MAYBE SOCIAL MEDIA HAD SOME, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WERE DEFENDING THE WORK THAT, THAT OUR TOWN STAFF DID. UM, AND I WAS PERSONALLY GETTING TEXTS AND MESSAGES SENT TO ME SAYING THE TOWN DID A GREAT JOB. AND I, I DID SHARE THAT. LIKE I SHARED THAT WITH, WITH SOME SUPERVISORS TOO, JUST TO SAY, LOOK, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, PLEASE MAKE SURE SO DID AN AMAZING JOB. I HOPE WE MIGHT BE DONE FOR A LITTLE WHILE WITH SNOW, BUT TOMORROW, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY. BUT I HOPE NOT. UM, SNOW IS ONE THING. IT'S THE ICE, IT WAS THE ICE THAT KILLED US. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT KEPT EVERYTHING GOING FROM, UM, OUR ELECTRICAL SERVICES TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS, TO OUR PD, UM, AND THOSE OF YOU THAT MADE IT INTO TOWN HALL TO KEEP TO ANSWER ALL THE PHONE CALLS, RIGHT? SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. UM, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AS PRESENTED. , YOU HAD WHAT? MOTION AND A SECONDARY DISCUSSION. OKAY. UM, ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES. VICE MAYOR FEL? YES. COUNCILMAN ? YES. COUNCILMAN UR? YES. COUNCILMAN KING? YES. COUNCIL? YES. MY BRAIN WAS TRYING TO COMPREHEND THAT WE'RE GOING INTO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING [01:10:01] SO THAT THE, UM, NEXT ITEM WOULD BE BUSINESS ITEMS. AND THERE ARE NONE. SO ACTUALLY WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN THIS REGULAR MEETING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.