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MM-HMM.[Board of Architectural Review on October 14, 2025.]
OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, 2025.AND MS. NASH IS ABSENT TONIGHT.
UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? UM, THE AUGUST 12TH MEETING AND THE WORK SESSION? YES.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH THE MINUTES AND THE WORK SESSION MINUTES.
THIS IS THE, THE REX DECK ON PAGE.
UM, ANYTHING ON YOUR END, DANIEL? UH, NO.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UH, THE DECK WAS, WAS WOODEN, WAS REMOVED, REPLACED WITH TRX.
WE DO HAVE A SAMPLE OF MATERIAL IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND, AND HE'S HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
UM, WE DOUBLED OUT A PERMIT OR COA, WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AFTER OBVIOUSLY SET THE NOTICE VIOLATION AND THEN HE APPLIED FOR THE CORRECT PERMITS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH APPROVAL, APPROVALS OF THE PERMITS OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH YOU ALL.
SO I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND FOR THE MOST PART, IT LOOKS OKAY.
IT'S JUST THE DETAILS ARE WHAT STAND OUT TO US.
THERE'S SPECIFICALLY THE EDGING OF THE STAIR TREADS WHERE YOU CAN SEE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE EDGE OF THE TRACKS AND THE PROFILE.
DO YOU WANT THE PIECE OF TRX? NO.
UM, THAT STUFF CAN I YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO TERMINATE THAT STUFF.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, I CAN FIX THAT.
AND WE DON'T, LIKE, THE HAMMER IS, SO WE'RE FINE WITH USING COMPOSITE MATERIALS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE AND APPROPRIATE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR EXACT MATERIAL.
IT LASTS LONGER THAN WOOD, SUPPOSEDLY, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS THE SAME AT A GLANCE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT EDGE HANGING OFF YEAH.
IT'S GLARINGLY OBVIOUS THAT IT'S A COMPOSITE MATERIAL.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
FINISHING DETAILS LIKE THAT TO WHERE IT LOOKS MORE LIKE WOOD.
I CAN GET THEM TO CUT IN A PIECE SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DID IN THE FRONT FACE, TYPICALLY, LIKE ON THE EDGE OF A HORSE, PUT IN A BAND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW TO TERMINATE THAT, BUT I'M SURE THEY HAVE A BETTER IDEA IF THEY WORK WITH IT A LOT.
THE OTHER THING WE NOTICE IS THE HANDRAILS.
THEY USE TO TRACK BOARDS ON THE TOP OF THE HANDRAILS, UHHUH.
AND THAT IS, AGAIN, IT JUST MAKES IT PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT IT'S A COMPOSITE MATERIAL CHANGE, THAT IF WE COULD EITHER USE, JUST USE WOOD AND PAINT IT TO MATCH THE HANDRAIL THAT'S ON THE RAMP, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AN EASY SOLUTION.
IN ADDITION TO PAINTING THE, THE POSTS, THOSE NEW POSTS.
THEY'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO AGE, AGE, AGE A LITTLE BIT.
AISHA BOARD THAT THEY ADDED AT THE BOTTOM STEPS.
I'M NOT, THIS IS NOT MY THING.
YOU WANNA REPLACE THAT WITH WOOD? YEAH.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF AN EASY WAY TO MAKE THAT NOT LOOK LIKE TRX.
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE HANDRAIL ITSELF.
UM, THE POSTS ARE JUST UNPAINTED, SO THEY STATE YEAH.
BUT THAT'S, YEAH, THEY WANTED TO WAIT TILL SPRING.
UM, I THINK REALLY THAT WAS IT.
I MEAN THE, THE, THE METAL HANDRAILS.
I RIPPED YOUR, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE GETTING SLAS.
THE OTHER THING WAS THE, WELL, THE OTHER THING WAS, IT WAS CONS.
HE SAID, IF YOU LOOK, HE GOES, IF YOU LOOK RIGHT DOWN ALONG THE, UH, COMCAST BUILDING MM-HMM
YOU SEE THE METAL PIPING, THE METAL AND THE BLACK PIPE, HE THOUGHT IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE.
AND I, AND I'M, I'M IN FLORIDA, AND I SAID, SURE.
SO, YEAH, THAT'S STUFF LIKE THAT, I MEAN, IT'S, THAT'S EASILY REVERSIBLE.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING OUTTA YOUR WAY TO, TO MAKE THINGS
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DIFFICULT DOWN THE LINE TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW? SO SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE WANTS TO TAKE THOSE OFF OF WHATEVER.THAT'S, THAT'D BE EASY ENOUGH.
SO I, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THOSE MILL RAILS, BUT I THINK BETTER STAIR EDGE STAIR EDGES, CHANGE THE TRACKS HANDRAIL TO WOOD AND PAINT THE POST IN THE SPRAY.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THE, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE? OR DO I NEED YOU SEND ME A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? SHE'LL SEND YOU A LETTER.
SO IF I COULD HAVE JUST ONE MORE MINUTE.
UM, I, I REALLY, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING A PERMIT.
IT WAS, UM, MY CONTRACTOR DOESN'T DO WORK IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND WHEN I CALLED HIM AND SAID, DID YOU GET ALL THE PERMITS? DO I NEED ANY PERMITS? HE GOES, NO, YOU DON'T NEED PERMITS.
UM, THESE GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.
THEY VERY RESPECTFUL IN HOW THEY COMMUNICATED WITH ME.
AND, UM, I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I DESERVE A STUPID PENALTY,
HE WAS REPLACING LIFE FOR A, LIKE, HE WOULDN'T NEED A PERMIT.
SO THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I JUST, I JUST COMPLETELY SPACED IT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S ALL, IT WAS ON ME.
I TOLD, I I THINK I SAID THAT IN THE LETTER.
UH, DID YOU GUYS GET A COPY OF THE PACKET YOU GOT? OKAY.
SORRY TO HAVE YOU COME OUT TONIGHT, BUT I NO WORRIES.
AND, AND I'LL DEFINITELY TAKE CARE OF THAT.
WELL, THANKS FOR COMING IN RECORDED.
I HAVE, I HAVE TWO REASONS I HAVE, WELL, ONE REASON I HAVE MY GRAND BABY UP HERE, SO I CAN, THERE YOU GO.
SO IN OUR COMMENTS, THANK YOU.
IN OUR MOTION, WE GOTTA TAG EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY.
SO, UM, THIS IS TO APPROVE THE YES.
WITH THE CONTING CONTINGENT ON THE, ON THE, THE STAIR EDGING.
READY AND A RAIL REPLACING THE TREX HANDRAILS WITH WOOD HANDRAILS THAT ARE PAINTED TO MATCH THE RAMP.
AND IN THE SPRING, PAINTING THE PRESSURE, ANY EXPOSED PRESSURE TREATED WOOD TO MATCH THE RAILINGS ON THE RAMP.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE CONTINGENCIES OF COVERING UP THE REX EDGING ALONG THE STEPS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, REPLACING THE TR THE TOPS OF THE HANDRAILS, REPLACING THE TRACKS WITH WOOD AND PAINTING ALL OF THE WOOD THAT'S EXPOSED NOW BY THE SPRINGTIME.
YOU GOT A SECOND? NEED A SECOND? YOU NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
UM, SO BEFORE WE ADJOURN, GUIDELINES DIDN'T GET HERE TILL TILL SATURDAY.
WE WERE OFF YESTERDAY, SO I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT YEAH.
THAT'S, I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PULL THAT AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE, AND THEY'RE STILL NOT DONE.
BUT IT'S A GOOD FIRST CRACK, I THINK.
AND IT'S A GOOD DOCUMENT TO WORK OFF OF.
AND ADD, SUBTRACT AT LEAST THE TEXT, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
I TOOK A LOT OF STUFF OUT AND I BROUGHT SOME STUFF IN FROM WARRENTON.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO SIMPLIFY THE LANGUAGE, BUT MAKE IT AT THE SAME TIME, MAKE IT MUCH MORE DECLARATIVE.
YOU KNOW, SO FOR EACH SECTION I TRY TO GET, GIVE A SUMMARY AND THEN BULLET POINTS.
LIKE, YOU GOTTA HIT THESE HIGH POINTS FOR EACH AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THERE'S SOME STUFF LIKE WITH THE MASONRY, I WANNA ELABORATE ON, AND I'M, I WAS KIND OF PLAYING WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING A, INSTEAD OF INCLUDING ALL THAT IN THE GUIDELINE DOCUMENT ITSELF, HAVING SOME KIND OF A SUPPLEMENTARY DOCUMENT, UM, THAT WOULD CORRESPOND TO EACH SECTION.
LIKE WHERE WE COULD ELABORATE ON MATERIAL CHOICES.
AND IT'S LIKE PAINT CHOICES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF YOU COULD GET INTO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN THAT.
IT'S LIKE THAT DOCUMENT AT A GLANCE, DO THIS, DON'T DO THIS.
AND THEN SUPPLEMENTARY DOCUMENT WHAT YOU COULD DO IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO GET, YOU KNOW, GO FOR GOLD.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA.
I, I DOUBLED THE LENGTH OF IT SOMEHOW.
SO
SOME, BUT I THINK IS THE FORMATTING.
BECAUSE WHEN I OPENED IT TODAY, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE BIG SPACING
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AND YEAH.IT COULD BE CONDENSED HERE FOR YEAH.
BUT WE GOTTA PUT PICTURES IN IT.
UM, ALSO, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I THINK THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE BASED ON A LOT OF FEEDBACK TODAY FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, WE HAD A MEETING DOWNTOWN AND THERE WAS A SECTION THAT WAS JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO OWNED PROPERTY DOWN HERE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROCESS.
WHEN THEY WANT TO PAINT OR CHANGE THINGS TO THEIR BUILDINGS.
THEY WERE UNCLEAR ON WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN'T DO.
AND OUR HISTORICAL GUIDELINES WERE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, AND I WAS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM AND I WANTED TO RAISE MY HAND MM-HMM
BUT IT WASN'T MY MEETING TO SPEAK.
BUT I THINK IT, BASED ON ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK, I THINK IT IS VERY TIMELY YEAH.
THAT THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
WELL IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S OVERDUE.
BUT YEAH, IF YOU GET A, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR, WE GOT SOMETHING TO WORK WITH FOR OUR NEXT, WE'LL PLAN, GO AHEAD AND PLAN THE NEXT WORK SESSION, RIGHT.
OUR NEXT MONTH, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE WEDNESDAY THE 12TH BECAUSE TUESDAY THE 11TH IS A HOLIDAY.
WEDNESDAY IT'S A VETERAN'S DAY.
AND YOU ACTUALLY, YOUR TERM EXPIRES ON THE 11TH, RIGHT?
WAIT, SO HE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE.
AND KATIE DID NOT WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED.
UM, WHO I KNOW WE HAVE ONE NEW BOARD MEMBER.
THEY'VE, THEY'VE FILLED EVERY, WE WILL HAVE, UM, WHO'S THE OTHER PERSON? I'VE NOT BEEN TOLD UNTIL, THEY DON'T TELL YOU UNTIL, UNTIL THE, UM, MEETING TINA WILL LET ME KNOW ONCE IT'S A FINAL APPOINTMENT.
THEY, YEAH, THEY'VE DONE THEIR INTERVIEWS AND MADE THEIR SELECTIONS.
I ONLY KNOW ONE OF THEM IS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OTHER ONE.
THEY INTERVIEWED THREE OR FOUR.
WHAT'S YOUR FRIEND ANGELA? I KEEP ASKING HIM TO, HE'S A MASSIVE PROCRASTINATOR, SO I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE THEY FILLED ALL THE TWO VACANCIES.
WHAT EMAIL? AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
SO LIKE I SAID, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, COUNCIL'S MEETING WILL KNOW HOME BACK.
NOVEMBER 12TH, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? UM, SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION, WE'RE GONNA SAY SIX.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NEW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SCHEDULES.
WHAT, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A REGULAR MEETING OR DO WE KNOW YET? OR? UM, LET'S SEE, AS OF NOW, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANYTHING.
I DON'T, I THINK THEY MISSED A DEADLINE FOR ANYTHING TO COME IN NOVEMBER.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS? WELL FOR YOU? HE'S NOT COMING.
CAN WE DO FIVE 30? I HAVE ANOTHER STANDING BOARD MEETING THAT STARTS AT FOUR ON, WE CAN DO SIX TUESDAY.
IT, IT'S FIVE 30 IS GOOD FOR ME.
FIVE JUST PUSHES IT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WEDNESDAY THE 12TH AT FIVE 30.
I'M GONNA LOOK AT THE CALENDAR ONE MORE TIME AND MAKE SURE, AND WE WILL, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW PEOPLE, WHEN WE KNOW THEY'LL GET, WE'LL GET THEM IN THE OFFICE AND GIVE 'EM A RUNDOWN OF RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN GIVE THEM A COPY OF THE GUIDELINES ALSO TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
UM, THE, UH, SO THERE ARE NO BYLAWS, AS I SAID IN MY EMAIL.
THERE'S THE HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT CODE.
UM, I PRINTED COPIES FOR EVERYBODY IF YOU WANT ONE.
UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADDRESS OR CHANGE, IT WOULD'VE TO GO TO COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE THE TOWN CODE CHANGE, BUT RIGHT.
UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT OR WE PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I NEED IT, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA KEEP ME ON POINT.
YOU NEED STUFF TO READ ANYWAY.
I WILL, I'VE BEEN PARTNERING IN PAROLE.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE SURVEY, HISTORIC SURVEY AND TRAINING.
SO DHR, THE DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES.
SO LIZZIE LEWIS IS WORKING ON US BECOMING ACL G.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST DOMINO
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WE'VE BECOME THAT MM-HMMTHEN WE CAN TALK TO DHR ABOUT DOING THE HISTORIC SURVEY WHERE THEN YOU CAN PARTNER.
I THINK YOU SPOKE WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT I DID THAT.
DID I SEND THAT TO YOU ALL WHEN SHE GOT BACK TO ME? I THOUGHT SO.
BUT THEY WILL DO THIS, THEY WILL HELP WITH THE SURVEY AND THEY WILL ALSO HELP PROVIDE TRAINING TO THE BAR.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE GET ONE, WE'LL GET THE OTHER TWO RIGHT AFTER THAT.
UH, IF YOU WANT ANY KIND OF TRAINING REGARDING RUNNING MEETINGS AND ROBERT'S RULES AND THAT SORT OF THING, WE CAN SEND YOU TO THE LAND USE TRAINING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS GO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, TOWN COUNCIL, THAT SORT OF THING.
I THINK THEY ALSO DO IT VIRTUALLY.
I DON'T THAT, BUT THERE IS NO BAR TRAINING.
RIGHT? THERE IS NO BAR SPECIFIC.
VH WONDER WHAT THAT A REQUIREMENT TO GET THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
YOU HAVE TO SHOW YOU'RE GOING TO TRAINING AND HOLLY.
HOLLY, I KNOW HOLLY WENT WELL.
IT WAS, IT WAS JUST, IT WASN'T LIKE OFFICIAL TRAINING.
IT WAS A, LIKE A SEMINAR MM-HMM
AND I, THERE'S NOTHING OFFERED RIGHT NOW THAT WAS LIKE, THAT WAS SOMETHING DOWN IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
AND, UM, BUT YEAH, WE'VE NOT, THERE'S, AND I, I CALLED THE, WHAT'S IT IS IT B-B-D-R-B-B-D-H-R, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES.
THEY DO NOT OFFER ANYTHING NOW, I THINK WHEN, IF WE BECOME A CERTIFIED GOVERNMENT, THEN THEY WILL, THEY DO.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE, LIKE THE PLANNING CATCH MISSION PROGRAMS, THE BOARD OF ZONING OF HEALTH PROGRAMS, THEY DON'T, AND I CONTACTED SEVERAL JURISDICTIONS.
THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING.
JUST LIKE A, SO IT'S NOT, I THOUGHT LAUREN SAID THAT YOU HAD TO, HAVE, YOU HAD TO SHOW PROOF THAT YOU HAD, IN ADDITION TO HAVING PEOPLE WITH RELEVANT DEGREES ON THE BAR, THAT YOU WERE ACTIVE IN TRAINING EVERY NO, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE NOBODY OFFERS IT.
IT'S, IT'S THAT THE, THE HR SAYS THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO IT ONCE YOU BECOME ACL G.
BUT MAYBE THAT'S FIT, MAINTAIN RIGHT.
TO KEEP IT RIGHT ONCE YOU GET IT, I GUESS WOULD MAKE SENSE.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE TRAINING THROUGH THEM TO MAKE IF, IF THEY REQUIRE IT FOR THE CLG TO KEEP OUR CLG STATUS? ANYTHING YOU PAY FOR, THEY GIVE.
BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THROUGH THEM, NOBODY ELSE OFFERS ANY.
I I'M SAYING THEY, EVERYBODY CAN JUST COME TO MY JOB SITE RIGHT.
FOR THE DAY AND YOU'LL GET ALL THE TRAINING YOU NEED.
SPEAKING OF, SPEAKING OF THAT, I HAD A THOUGHT, UM, OH GOD, WHAT'S HER NAME? LIZ DOWN AT THE LIZZIE.
I MET WITH HER THE OTHER WEEK.
UM, SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT THE WINDOWS AND ALL THE BUILDINGS THERE AND I WALKED AROUND AND LOOKED AT 'EM AND, UH, THEY'RE IN ROUGH SHAPE.
A LOT OF 'EM ARE IN ROUGH SHAPE IN ADDITION TO A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF THAT'S IN ROUGH SHAPE OVER THERE.
SO THIS WINTER, AT SOME POINT AS A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TAKE A WINDOW OUT OVER THERE AND TAKE IT TO THE SHOP AND RESTORE A WINDOW AND WE WOULD GET A FREE RESTORE WINDOW.
WE WOULD ALL GET SOME TRAINING.
SO, WELL YOU TOLD 'EM, BOUGHT THIS HOUSE OR ROB LODGE.
WELL, ONE'S FROM THE 17 HUNDREDS, ONE'S FROM THE 18 HUNDREDS.
AND SOME OF 'EM ARE, ARE RIGHT AT THAT POINT WHERE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE IN ANOTHER TWO, TWO YEARS.
SO I WOULD COME TO THAT TRAINING.
SO THAT'S A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AS SOON AS I GET FALCONS DONE AND GET SOME OTHER STUFF DONE, I'LL HAVE TIME TO DO THAT
LET US KNOW WHAT WE'LL MAKE IT A MEETING OR NO, WE'LL MAKE IT A TRAINING.
MR. MR. FENCE? NO, I'M, I, I THINK I'VE NOT MR. FENCE, MR. WINDOWS LAUNDROMAT, WINDOW VAN, MR. WINDOWS.
I'VE PUT HIM IN CONTACT WITH LONG, LONG OH GUY ON FRANK'S BUILDING.
AND THEN BARBARA SAMUELS TO HELP WHERE THEY GOT THEIR WINDOWS FROM.
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HERS BECAUSE, OH, SHE DID BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T FIND THEM.LOOK THAT HOW, WHEN DID YOU SPEAK TO HER LAST? YEAH, I THOUGHT SHE WENT TO THE POST BECAUSE HER DAUGHTER CAME IN AND I GAVE HER ALL THE INFORMATION SHE FOUND.
I'M ALMOST, I MEAN SHE MAY HAVE CHOSEN IF THEY DIDN'T DO IT.
SHE MAY HAVE CHOSE NOT TO, BUT THEY HAD ALL THE INFORMATION.
I'M ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT POSITIVE.
SO I'LL PUT HIM IN CONTACT WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE BECAUSE HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION HE HAD TO GO FIND HISTORICALLY ACCURATE WINDOWS THAT HAD BEEN RECLAIMED.
AND I'M LIKE, NAH, DUDE, YOU JUST GOT, OR AS MANY WINDOWS IN THAT HOUSE.
THAT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE I WOULD THINK.
HE'S LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS NOT JUST ONE WINDOW GONNA BE TOO.
SO ANYWAY, I CLEARED IT UP AND I TOLD HIM, GO DOWN TO THE FRANK'S BUILDING AND TALK TO MR. POE 'CAUSE HE FOUND WINDOWS YEAH.
THAT WERE APPROVED AND TALK TO HIM.
IF NOT, THEN I SAID BARBARA SAMUELS.
I DIDN'T KNOW SHE NEVER REPLACED IT.
I KNOW SHE HAD THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
'CAUSE I WAS ON THE SAME PAGE THIS TIME.
'CAUSE HER DAUGHTER CAME IN AND I GAVE HER EVERYTHING.
AND SO SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA SELL IT AND THEN DECIDED TO KEEP IT.
IS IT AGAIN, BARBER'S BUILDING? MM-HMM
SO I'M GONNA KEEP, I'M KEEPING HIM ON, ON MY CALENDAR FOR EVERY FEW WEEKS I FOLLOW UP.
WHAT YOU DOING, WHO YOU CALL, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND WHAT ABOUT SHELLY'S WINDOW ON THE FRONT OF THE BOOKSTORE? YEAH, WE'RE JUST WAITING.
SHE'S JUST WAITING ON THE RENTER TO GET OUT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE STARTED THIS MONTH.
SHE SAID BY THE END OF OCTOBER IT SHOULD BE DONE UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES.
UM, AND THEN I'VE NOT GOTTEN AN ANSWER FROM ANY OF THE PHONE NUMBERS FROM THE FATHER.
SO I'M JUST GONNA START KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR EVERY COUPLE WEEKS.
THE DOG I KNOW HE'S GONE MISSING.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I USED TO KNOW IT'S THAT BILLY, ISN'T THAT BILLY GERMAN SHEPHERD.
WELL, REMEMBER THAT DOG WASN'T A GERMAN SHEPHERD.
HE HAD A GERMAN SHEPHERD THAT WAS ALWAYS RUNNING LOOSE.
THAT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WE SAW.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS TIED UP TO THE DOGHOUSE ON THE PORCH.
OH, HE'S MUST HAD HIM A COUPLE OF DOGS THEN BILLY I HADN'T SEEN IN A LONG TIME.
HE WAS DEFINITELY NOT A GERMAN SHEPHERD.
SO THAT'S ALL I KNOW OTHER THAN, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE CODE CHANGE GOT APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
UM, THAT WAS WHEN YOU WERE SICK.
AND THAT'LL GO ON ON THE, I'M SO SURPRISED.
YEAH, THAT'S UM, THAT UPDATE HAS BEEN SENT TO MUNI CODE TINA SENT TO THEM AND THEY'LL UPDATE OUR WEBSITE.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
SINCE THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE TO THAT CODE, YOU'RE GONNA WANNA THROW SOMETHING AT ME? DO THE CURRENT PEOPLE WHO OWN HOMES GET NOTIFIED OF THAT? NO.
SO I'M JUST THINKING, WHAT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY DOWN THERE THAT WANTS TO GO IN AND DO SOME REVISIONS INSIDE, SUGGEST THEY
WELL, THAT, AND I MEAN, THEY'D HAVE TO COME TO US FOR PERMITS.
I DO WE NOTIFY HOMEOWNERS THEY LIVE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ON ANY KIND OF REGULAR BASIS? NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I MEAN, I SENT OUT, I SENT OUT HOWEVER MANY LETTERS THAT WAS.
THAT WAS JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.
CONNIE NOTIFIED ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? NO, NOT THE TENANTS.
THEY WENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY WERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S JUST BEEN WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.
AND SO HOPEFULLY IF ANYBODY MAKES ANY, IT WAS IN THE SUMMER REVISION.
SHOULD LOOK AT THE EXACT MONTH.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, THEY'LL REMEMBER TO COME DOWN HERE AND THAT WE WOULD HOPE.
BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT, THAT, UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
WHAT ABOUT IF WE PUT SOME TYPE OF BAR
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REMINDER, OR I'M JUST THINKING OF THEY GIVE, THEY SEND OUT THE TAX BILL OR NOT THE TAX BILL.THE NEWSLETTER WITH THE MONTHLY UTILITY BILL.
COULDN'T WE PUT IN THE NEWSLETTER? JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IF YOU LIVE HERE LAST YEAR, I THOUGHT, DIDN'T WE INCLUDE A COPY OF THE OVERLAY ON THAT? YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALSO PUT A LITTLE BLURB ABOUT THAT THE CODE'S BEEN UPDATED FOR THE HISTORY OF DISTRICT.
IF THEY'LL ALLOW IN NEWSLETTER.
MIGHT NOT BE AS IMPORTANT AS MAYOR'S CORNER, WHATEVER.
LIKE WITHIN LA 'CAUSE I GOT IT.
WELL, I'M JUST THINKING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES TO EVERYBODY THAT, THAT'S EASIER TO DO THAN NARROW DOWN EVERYBODY THAT LIVES THERE AND SENDING OUT AN INDIVIDUAL MAILER.
THE OTHER THING WE, WE GO, LAST TIME WE DID THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AN ISSUE SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE.
SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE UTILITY.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE UTILITY BILL.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE UTILITY BILL.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVERYBODY.
SOME PEOPLE, SOMEBODY WILL SEE IT AND IT'LL SAVE US, SAVE THEM AND US SOME HEARTACHE, I'M SURE.
BUT YOU GET 5% DISCOUNT ON UTILITY BILLS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S OUTSTANDING THOUGH FROM US.
MR.
THE THEATER BUILDING AT SOME POINT.
OH, I WISH I'D KNOWN THAT WHILE YOU WERE WORKING TODAY.
WAS IT PRETTY COOL? YOU KNOW, IT'S SAD ACTUALLY.
THERE'S NOT, I MEAN WHEN IT'S JUST A SHELL.
I WENT IN BEFORE THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION, THERE WAS THE ONLY OBVIOUS THING TO ME THAT STILL LET, LET YOU KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN A PRODUCTION HOUSE AT ONE TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALLY CALLED A CATWALK, BUT ON FAR SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE STAGE HAD BEEN, THERE IS LIKE A CATWALK AND THE ORIGINAL WOOD IS STILL UP THERE IN THAT CATWALK.
HE'S APPLIED FOR HISTORIC TAX CREDITS FOR THAT BUILDING.
SO THEY ARE REPURPOSING EVERYTHING THAT THEY TAKE OUT OF THAT.
BUT REALLY YOU GO IN AND YOU STAND IN AND IT'S JUST A BIG GIANT OPEN SHELL RIGHT NOW.
WE STARTED TO SEE THAT BEFORE THAT I NEVER, WELL, IT WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE BEEN WAY, WAY BEFORE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS THE SHELL WHEN I WENT THROUGH IT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTED TOO.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK YOU HAD TO GO.
I WAS IT BACK IN THE EARLY, LATE, LATE SEVENTIES AND FOUND ALL THOSE OLD POSTERS FROM BABIES.
SO THAT STUFF'S PROBABLY BEEN LONG.
THE SEATS ALL OF THAT LONG SINCE REMOVED.
OH, YOU NEED TO DONATE THEM BACK.
SOME OF 'EM HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONATED BACK TO THE HARRIS SITE.
I FOUND ONE OF MARY AND DA I SAVED THAT.
SHE'S THE ONE THAT, THAT THE, UH, WAS SHE CITIZEN KANE? NO.
THAT THE GIRLFRIEND IS BASED ON CITIZEN CAN, BUT THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK IT WILL LOOK NICE WHEN IT'S DONE, BUT FROM THE INSIDE IT'S JUST WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS WHEN I WENT INTO IT.
ALSO, I DID NOTICE THAT SOME OF THE UM, OLD GLASS HAS BEEN BROKEN SINCE THE RESTORATION HAS BEGUN.
AND I REMINDED THE OWNER'S DAY.
LIKE STOP BREAKING OLD GLASS
HE WAS LIKE, WHERE IS THAT HAPPEN? I'M LIKE, WALK DOWN THE ALLEY.
TWO OF THOSE OLD WINDOWS, THE BIG OLD CHURCH WINDOWS AND THE LOWER PORTION OF IT LOOKS LIKE THEY BUMPED IT AND BROKE THAT GLASS WITH SOMETHING.
THEY KEPT TAKE A COUPLE HOURS AND PUT UP SOME PLYWOOD.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT JUST, THAT MADE ME A LITTLE BIT SICK.
BUT, UM, HE WAS HAPPY TO SHOW IT OFF.
I'M SURE IF YOU WANTED TO GO IN, HE'D TAKE YOU RIGHT IN THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ALL, NOPE.
I GUESS IT'S JUST YOU AND ME NOW.
I THINK DEI WILL BE BACK FOR NOVEMBER.
ALRIGHT THEN OUR TWO NEW PEOPLE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN IF YOU'RE READY.