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[Planning and Zoning Work Session on September 3, 2025.]
THE ARE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION WEDNESDAYS EPTEMBER THIRD.MS. POTTER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE CHAIRMAN NER HERE.
COMMISSIONER MARRAZZO IS NOT HOT HERE EITHER, BUT WE HAVE A QUORUM.
BROOKS, THAT FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS 2 5 0 0 3 2 OH FOR THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, AND GENERAL.
WE'RE A GOOD ZONING PRACTICE, ZONING, TEXT AMENDMENT TO DEFINE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE MOTION.
UH, WOULD THE STAFF LIKE TO BRIEF US ON THIS? SURE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE THAT, UH, DO YOU WANNA BRING UP THE PACKET TO SHOW UP HERE? UH, SURE.
I IT'S IN THE, THE PUBLIC NOTE.
WHAT DID YOU DO? I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THE CHANGES THEN.
THEN MAYBE WORK ON THAT ONE PART AND HAVE HIM REVIEW THAT.
AND THEN THAT PACKET, HOW BIG WE CAN MAKE.
PACKET HAS A COPY OF, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
HE, HE CONTROLS THE, HE'S CONTROLLING.
OH, DO JOHN CAN CONTROL IT NOW, RIGHT? WITH THE YOU ARE.
SO, UH, BASED ON THE LAST WORK SESSION ON THIS, THERE ARE A COUPLE, UH, CHANGES TO THE, UH, THE TEXT UP HERE, UH, THAT WE CAUGHT.
UM, BUT, UH, ONE THING ON THE FIRST PART, ON DEFINITION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, I THINK, UH, WE NEED TO ADD AFTER THIS DEFINITION OF DESIGNATED SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE HOUSING, WE NEED TO USE THE LETTERING THERE.
'CAUSE WE CALL THAT OUT THROUGH THE BODY OF THE TEXT, THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD ADD.
OH, ADD, ADD THE, THE ACRONYM.
ADD THAT IN THERE SO WE KNOW, UH, WHEN IT GOES THROUGH THE REST OF THE TEXTS THAT, UH, IT, IT IS DEFINED THERE.
UM, SO WE'RE ADDING THAT, UH, WE'RE DOING THE DEFINITIONS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THOSE WOULD BE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE R ONE, R TWO AND R THREE.
THAT'S THE THREE DISTRICTS THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE RESIDENTIAL PART.
SO WE'D BE ADDING THAT IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTIONS OF EACH OF THOSE THREE.
UM, THEN, UH, I THOUGHT WE MADE THIS CHANGE, BUT MAYBE IT WAS A GRAMMAR ERROR HERE UNDER E UH, THAT SPH NEEDS TO BE STRICKEN.
YEAH, THIS IS AN OLD VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT.
THIS IS, THAT WAS CORRECTED OLD VERSION.
UH, THE, WELL, HOW SHOULD IT BE THE DESIGNATED SPECIAL PURPOSE HOUSING? YES.
SO THAT, THAT DSCH SHOULD BE, THAT WAS CORRECTED.
RIGHT? SO THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CORRECTED.
THAT THEN, UH, THESE NEED TO BE, UH, SEPARATED SO IT'S NOT ONE PARAGRAPH OF THE NUMBERS.
SO WE WILL HAVE A ONE, AN E ONE, AND E 2, 3, 4, 5, 1 DOWN THE LINE.
AND UNDER SIX, THERE'LL BE THE LITTLE, UH, LETTERS.
AND I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHEN I READ THIS AGAIN.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS HERE WITH THIS LAST SENTENCE HERE.
THIS E HEALTHCARE PLAN IS REQUIRED.
THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE LETTER.
SO THAT LETTER THERE, IF YOU'RE CATCHING, UH, TAKING CARE OF THAT CONNIE? YEAH.
WHERE IT SAYS WHETHER PROVISIONS OF EACH WILL BE ON SITE OR OFFSITE.
THAT SHOULD BE LOWERCASE G HERE.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE PET CARE PLAN AS REQUIRED.
THEN THIS SECOND SENTENCE PROBABLY SHOULD NOT GO WITH G.
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SEPARATE SENTENCE AS FAR AS NOT IN THAT BODY OF G.BECAUSE THAT'S JUST, THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS SENTENCE THAT YOU WOULD ENFORCE.
CONNIE'S GONNA MAKE THESE CHANGES, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? CONNIE'S GONNA MAKE THESE CHANGES.
YEAH, WE'LL MAKE THEM, DOES THAT SOUND? SO THIS LAST SENTENCE HERE IS NOT PART OF ENFORCEABLE G UNDER, UH, SIX G.
THAT'LL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO A NEW, TO A LETTER TO A, UH, NO LETTER.
IT'LL JUST BE A, A STATEMENT UNDER THAT.
AFTER SUP APPROVED, ANY CHANGES TO THE MANAGE MANAGEMENT PLAN MUST BE SUBMITTED, UH, TO THE FRONT ROYAL PLANNING AND ZONING IMPACT ASSESSMENT FOR IMPACT ASSESSMENT.
IT'S JUST A STATEMENT WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE G PART? SOMETHING? NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
SO THAT'S JUST SOME LITTLE BIT OF THE GRAMMAR ON THERE.
AND ALSO, IF WE GO TO UNDER 1 7 5 1 53, IF I CAN ADVANCE THAT FOR SOME REASON, CHARLES, IT'S, UH, ADVANCES IT TOO FAR.
WHAT'S, UH, CAN WE SLIDE THAT DOWN A PAGE? UH, THERE? NO, WHAT HAPPENED TO, OH, THAT'S 1 53.
WHAT HAPPENED TO 1 53? SHOULD BE BEFORE THAT.
THIS HERE IS WHERE WE NEED TO WORK ON, UH, UNDER 1 7 5 1 53 A.
SO THAT IS THE ONE THAT, UM, OUR LEGAL TIME, UH, DID NOT LIKE THIS FIRST SENTENCE UNDER 1 75.
ONE FIFTY THREE A FOR YOUR PHONE.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT, JOHN? IT'S NOT IN HER COPY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S ON PAGE THREE OF FOUR.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, GO BACK TO THE, UM, 1 7 5 DASH 53.
I GOT, I FOUND, I FOUND A, CONNIE, DO YOU WANT MY HARD COPY? NO, I, I IT'S BEFORE THE, THE INDUSTRIAL EMPLOY.
SO WE'RE STILL ON THE DESIGNATED UNDER THAT.
UM, SORRY, JOHN, TRYING TO, OKAY.
SO WE, WE NEED TO REWORD THIS SENTENCE HERE.
WHERE IN THE R ONE DISTRICT, UH, AND ONLY IN THE R ONE, UM, THAT YOU SHALL CONSIDER THE RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, WHICH NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS.
UM, SO THAT WOULD THE NUMBER EIGHT.
THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WOULD ONLY PERTAIN TO THE R ONE DISTRICT.
'CAUSE HERE WE HAVE ALL DSCH IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING, THE DISTRICT SHOW BE RESTRICTED, NOT MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS.
SO THAT'S NOT A CORRECT STATEMENT.
SO THAT IS ONLY GONNA BE FOR THE R ONE DISTRICT ITSELF.
THE R TWO AND R THREE DOES ALLOW THIS CONGREGATE LIVING, UH, WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THE R ONE IS GONNA BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN EIGHT.
SECOND, YOU WANNA CHANGE THAT? SO WE USE ALL DSCH IN OUR ONE ZONING DISTRICT SHALL BE RESTRICTED.
NO, WE DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD RESTRICTED.
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SO GONNA BE ALLOWED TO NOT MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUAL.WELL, THE STATE CODE WORDING IS LIMITED.
WE SHOULD NOT USE THE WORD RESTRICTED OR LIMITED FOR PURPOSE.
THE WORD SHALL CONSIDER A RESIDENTIAL FULFILL SHALL BE NOT THAN EIGHT.
NO MORE THAN EIGHT SHALL BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
RIGHT? WHAT'S THE VERB? SHALL BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
WHAT'S THE SUBJECT? IT'S GONNA BE THE OH.
OR, OR IT'S GONNA BE IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WELL, ALL THE DDSC IS GONNA GO AWAY, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE ALL, BUT WE'RE ONLY WORKING IN THE R ONE HERE.
DSH IN THE RESIDENTIAL R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ALL DSCH AND RESIDENTIAL ELIMINATE ALL I'M TELLING OUT ALL, OKAY.
R ONE DISTRICTS SHALL BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF OWNERS SHOULD BE NO MORE INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBERS.
SHOULD IT SAY DSCH IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT? YEAH.
AND THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL SHALL BE NO MORE THAN DSCH IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT SHALL BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBERS.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? IT, WHAT DID YOU PUT IN VAN BEFORE EIGHT EACH? THIS, THIS GOT KICKED BACK WHEN IT GOT TO THIS.
WORKING WITH THIS 'CAUSE LEGALITY.
ABOUT THE DATE AND TRYING TO, UH, POSSIBILITY OF COMPETING WITH STATE CODE.
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITY THAT RESTRICTIONS.
I'M, I'M GOING BY WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS TOLD.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS REACTING THE ISSUES WORD DESCRIPTION.
SO NOW THE
YOU CAN SEE IF THAT DID THAT ADDRESS.
WELL, I MAY NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHAT I, I'M ONLY NOW LOOKING AT YOUR, NOPE.
OH, YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT WELL, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THAT 'CAUSE THEY'RE THROWING IT OUT, DOING SOMETHING.
SO LOOK AT THE, UH, TAKE THAT OUTTA THERE.
I THINK THE DS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL DESIGNATED SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE HOUSING.
SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IN, IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THERE SHALL BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF.
I BELIEVE THAT'S RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
CONNIE, WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU AT? UH, 1 75 DASH 1 53 A.
JUST COULD YOU CATCH HIM UP? SEE ZONING DISTRICT THERE.
WHATEVER IT WAS YOU TYPED OVER THERE.
SOON AS WE GET THE INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBERS.
I MEAN, I NEED TO SEE IT WRITTEN SO I CAN, OKAY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I DOES THAT WORK.
YOU'RE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH IT? CURRENTLY READ.
UH, RESIDENTIAL R ONE DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT WHERE WE, SO WHAT SENTENCE DO WE HAVE THIS CONNIE READ? CAN YOU READ THE SENTENCE FIRST? I WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
HERE IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THERE SHALL BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBERS.
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SEVEN OF A, I MEAN, DO YOU WANT IT TO SAY IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT A-D-S-C-H SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN, I MEAN, DO YOU WANT THAT DSCH IN THERE? OKAY.UH, LET'S RIGHT TO SECOND, THE SECOND IDEA IS THAT WHAT, WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON HIS SENTENCE.
GEORGE IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE GOT TO.
SO HAVE WE CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF DSCH? NO.
ARE WE, ARE DO ANY OF THE, DO ANY OF THE CATEGORIES IN THE DEFINITION, UM, UM, INVOLVE THE STATE CODE SECTION? YES.
WHICH ONE? THE ONE WELL HAVE TO DO WITH THE WHAT WAS DISABLED.
IT'S, IT, IT IS INDEED STILL IN THERE A POSSIBILITY.
AND, AND SO WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING JOHN WAS WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, CHANGING FIRST SENTENCE.
'CAUSE HE, HE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS, UH, THE ONE WORD YOU ARE OBJECTING TO, AND WHAT I HAD DONE BEFORE, THE OTHER WAS TO PUT DISCLAIMERS IN, UM, IN THE, THE TWO POSSIBILITIES TO ALLOW FOR THE STATE CODE TO BE PREEMINENT OVER ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE SAY IN HERE.
AND SO THAT WAS MY APPROACH THERE.
BUT I, BUT I THINK JOHN WAS SAYING MAYBE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANTED, BUT THAT'S NOT IN THIS DRAFT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU, WHAT I SENT YOU, WHAT YOU, WHAT I SENT YOU AN EMAIL HAD TWO POSSIBILITIES.
ONE WITH JUST A DISCLAIMER AND ONE WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION AND TEXT ABOUT WHAT THOSE THINGS WERE.
AND NOW WE'RE DISREGARDING THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT JOHN WAS SAYING, THAT, THAT IT WASN'T WHAT YOU WANTED.
HE WAS SAYING YOU WANTED, UM, JUST THAT FIRST SENTENCE AND IT WAS, WAS WHAT THE HANGUP WAS.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS, UH, OKAY.
I, I GUESS THE, THE QUESTION IS NOW THE THREE POSSIBILITY CLOSING OUT THERE IS HOW, HOW TO, HOW TO STROKE THE DRAGON
SO WE DO CHANGING THE YEAH, I LIKE THAT.
SO I, I THINK THE TASK IS THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN CODE DOES NOT REGULATE IT.
IT'S NOT INTENDED TO CIRCUMVENT.
THAT'S WHAT, WHY I WAS THINKING THE DISCLAIMER IN FRONT, TRYING TO STATE THAT IN CASES WHERE THE TOWN CODE DOES CONFLICT, IT, IT, THE STATE CODE IS PREEMINENT, OR WHATEVER WORDS I USE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO TO IN THE EMAILS I SENT YOU LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE.
BUT THAT WAS THE APPROACH I THOUGHT WAS TO FIX THIS.
AND NOW I, I WAS HEARING SOMETHING ELSE OUT OF JOHN WHEN I GOT HERE TONIGHT.
SO I, THAT WAS, THAT SUPPOSEDLY CAME FROM ME.
NO, IT WAS OUR INTERPRETATION.
SO THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT WORD RESTRICT.
THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE, IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO INTERPRET.
THAT WORD APPEARS WHERE UNDER 1 75.
SO THAT, UH, SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS SENTENCE HERE IN THE BOTTOM SHALL BE RESTRICTED, RIGHT? IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
RIGHT? SO WE WAS GOING TO STRIKE THAT SENTENCE AND ADD THE BOTTOM SENTENCE THERE.
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OKAY.SO LET'S SEE HOW TO ATTACK THIS.
SO THE, THE STATE STATUTE WOULD APPLY TO ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
DO WE AGREE? DO WE AGREE WITH THAT? ON THAT? IF IT HAS EIGHT OR LESS PEOPLE, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GETS MORE THAN EIGHT, THEN, THEN THE STATE IS THEN THE TOWN'S ALLOWED TO ADD ADDITIONAL RULES.
YEAH, BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT ZONING DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.
THIS WOULD BE IN ANY RESIDENTIAL.
ANY ZONE ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT HAVE EIGHT OF THOSE PEOPLE.
SO THEN YOU LOOK AT THE SUSPECT, I'LL CALL IT SUSPECT CLASSIFICATIONS.
AND IT'S MENTAL ILLNESS, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY OR DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
RIGHT? THEN YOU GET INTO THE NUMBERS, EIGHT, EIGHT OR FEWER CANNOT BE REGULATED.
BUT THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT A VETERAN'S HOUSE COULD HAVE A DISABLED PERSON IN TWO, AND THEN THAT COULD POSSIBLY FALL INTO IT OR WHATEVER CATEGORY.
ANYTIME A DISABLED PERSON ENTERS INTO THE, IT RAISES A PROBLEM.
SO AGAIN, THAT, THIS TAKES ME BACK TO THE DEFINITION, THE PROPOSED DEFINITION.
OKAY? AND IT CERTAINLY, UM, INCLUDES DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
RIGHT? SO, UH, TO REGARDING, UM, INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, WE NEED TO CARVE OUT, RIGHT? WE, WE, WE CAN'T REGULATE EIGHT OR FEWER.
BUT, AND I WAS TRYING TO DO THAT WITH THE DISCLAIMERS SINCE CONGREGATE HOUSING WITH MORE, AND THOSE EXAMPLES I SENT YOU ALWAYS TRYING TO CAR CARVE THAT OUT WITH A DISCLAIMER.
AND THE OTHER HAD IT ACTUALLY LISTED ALL THE CODE AND ALL THIS STUFF AND WENT DOWN A FEW DIFFERENT
SO, SO AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT IN, IN NO ZONE, NO RESIDENTIAL ZONE, CAN THERE BE DSCH OF MORE THAN EIGHT PEOPLE OR DSH UNLESS IT'S CONGRUENT, CONGRUENT HOUSING.
AND THEN THAT COULD BE INTO R TWO AND R THREE AND OKAY.
AND THAT'S ADDRESSED WHERE, THAT'S IN, IN THAT SAME FIRST PARAGRAPH, THERE WERE BREAKS OUT THAT SAME ONE 70.
SO OUR ISSUE REALLY IS, IS DEFINED PARDON? CONGREGATE WHERE? CONGREGATE DEFINED.
IS THAT DEFINED? IT SHOULD BE THE DEFINITION.
ORIGINALLY PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, DANCING AROUND ALL THE STATE LAWS AND STUFF WAS FINE.
OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T DANCE AROUND ONE OF THEM PROPERLY.
SO AS TO DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, THE ONLY REGULATION THAT CAN APPLY IS, HAS TO DO WITH CONGREGATE LIVING.
WHY WOULD, WOULD DEBORAH ONLY CONGREGATE LIVING FOR, BECAUSE IT HAS MORE THAN EIGHT.
UH, IN, IN THE CASE, THE TOWN CANNOT REGULATE, THE TOWN CANNOT REGULATE THAT EIGHT OR FEWER, THE STATE CODE IS PREEMPTIVE.
THE TOWN CANNOT REGULATE EIGHT OR FEWER IN THAT PARTICULAR, AND I'LL JUST CALL IT SUSPECT CLASS.
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I AGREE.SO, BUT IT CAN BE REGULATED AS PART OF CONGREGATE LIVING.
'CAUSE IT'S MORE MAKE PEOPLE, SO, RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET.
SO WHAT ARE, HOW ARE WE HANDLING INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY OR MENTAL ILLNESS? ARE WE, ARE WE, THAT'S REALLY NOT PART OF THE CLASSES I HAVE IN HERE, I DON'T THINK, BUT IT ISN'T SAY LAW.
I, I I AM IS THAT ALL INTENDED TO BE INCLUDED IN DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES? PERHAPS.
WELL, WE, WE NEED TO DEFINE THEN WE, THEN WE NEED, OH, IT'S DEFINED.
WELL, WE DON'T DEFINE, UH, WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE DEFINITION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES SO THAT IT INCLUDES MENTAL ILLNESS AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY.
AND THEN, SO HOW, SO AGAIN, YOU SAY YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY COME UP WITH A FIX FOR CARVING OUT INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES FROM THE I CAME UP WITH, FROM THE EIGHT OR FEWER REGULATIONS.
I, I CAME UP WITH A DISCLAIMER.
THE FRONT STATING THAT A STATE LAW, I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT GROUP.
I SAID IF STATE LAW, UM, DISAGREES WITH WHAT THIS SAYS, STATE LAW IS PREEMINENT.
AND, AND IS THAT, THAT'S IN THE COURSE DRAFT YOU GAVE ME.
NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE IN THERE.
THAT WOULD BE IN THE EMAIL I SENT YOU.
I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ONE PAGE.
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I, I, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT A, THE SENTENCE IN, UH, 1 53 A WOULD BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, UM, ANY OR ALL BSCH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS.SAY THAT AGAIN FOR THE MOMENT.
IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ANY BSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IN THE R ONE, THAT WOULD PUT IT THOUGH, IN THE R ONE AREA, THEY COULD HAVE MORE THAN EIGHT.
UH, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING BY WHAT I JUST READ IS WE WOULD BE CARVING OUT INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES RIGHT.
FROM THE RESTRICTION OF THE EIGHT.
OKAY, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO WE SAID IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ANY DSCH WOULD BE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL VISIBILITIES.
AND THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ANY DSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
AND THEN I DON'T HAVE THE REST OF THEM INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBERS, NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE STAFF MEMBERS, ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBERS.
AND THAT, THAT JUST TAKES CARE OF OUR ONE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL YOU ALL WE NEED.
AND THAT YOU ADD, ADD TO THE DEFINITION.
DID YOU ADD THOSE TWO? DID YOU GET THAT CONNIE? I, I DIDN'T ADD, ADD TO THE DEFINITION.
WHAT ARE WE ADDING? UM, WELL, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET THIS SENTENCE CORRECT HERE.
IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ANY DSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBER.
I MEAN, I WOULD READS A LITTLE BETTER IF WE SAY DSCH HOUSING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S REDUNDANT.
IN IN THE DEFINITION, WE NEED TO INCLUDE MENTAL ILLNESS AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES INTO THAT DEFINITION.
UNDER DEFINITIONS, WHAT DID WE NEED TO ADD? I'M SORRY.
IT WAS UNDER THOSE WAS UNDER THE DCHS HOUSING DEFINITION, OR WHICH ONE WAS THAT? NO.
UNDER INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, WE NEED TO, OKAY.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT DEFINITION INCLUDES INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND, AND, OR, OR INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY IN ADDITION TO DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES ADDITION.
MENTAL ILLNESS OR INDIVIDUALS.
MADE ARRANGEMENTS DESIGNED TO HELP INDIVIDUALS WITH FELLOW
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DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, MENTAL ILLNESS OR INDIVIDUAL, OH, WAIT, NO, WAIT.SPECIALIZED LIVING ARRANGEMENTS DESIGNED TO HELP INDIVIDUALS WITH DE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES OR INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS OR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY COME AND MOVE THE, OR INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS OR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY.
TRANSITION FROM, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT GOES THERE.
SO SPECIALIZED LIVING ARRANGEMENTS DESIGNED TO HELP INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS OR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY TRANSITION FROM INSTITUTIONAL SETTINGS OR OTHER ENVIRONMENTS INTO MORE INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY-BASED LIVING SITUATIONS.
SO, SO LET ME DESCRIBE THIS ON FOR SIZE.
SO GOING BACK TO 1 53 A, WE TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM IN ALL, IN ALL ZONES.
IF WE JUST GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS WORDED.
IN ALL, IN, IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
BY, BY SPECIFYING R WHY DID WE SPECIFY R ONE? THAT WAS, THAT WAS AN ASSUMPTION OF WHAT THEY AS A FIX.
THAT'S WHAT, BECAUSE THE R ONE'S ONLY, WE'RE ONLY ON THE R ONE.
BUT THAT BASED ON WHAT CHANGE HE MADE, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE.
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO, OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO ADDS MORE LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE CARVE OUT APPLIES TO ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE, THE ORIGINAL HALL WHERE IT USED TO SAY ALL P WE SHOULD NOT BE USED THE WORD RESTRICTED THERE IN THAT SENTENCE.
NO, IF WE CAR, IF WE DO THE CARVE OUT.
SO ALL, ALL DSCH IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? ALL DSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OH, OKAY.
OR WHENEVER, HOWEVER, WORD HOW WE WORDED IT BEFORE ALL DSCH IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
ALL DSCH IN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, I, I WOULD SAY IN ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ALL DISTRICT H AND ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WITH THE EXCEPTION, NOW WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO RIGHT AFTER DSCH, ALL DSCH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WITH THE, IN ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND SO ON.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AND THE REST OF THAT SENTENCE, OR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH CORRECT DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY, RIGHT? SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, OR WHERE DO YOU WANT THAT? MM-HMM.
YOU WANT IT IN NOT AT THE END.
THE FIRST, I THINK, I THINK I GOT LOST.
I LIKE YOU HAD IT RIGHT? ALL DSCH IN ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NO.
SEE, I DON'T, SO THE EXCEPTION GOES AFTER THE DSCH.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ALL DSCH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH RIGHT.
BUT WHERE DO YOU WANT RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AFTER THE APART SEPARATED BY COMMAS, WITH THE EXCEPTION FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH, I'M SORRY.
ADD THE DEFINITION OF WORDING HERE.
ALL THE SACH H WE DON'T WANT THIS NEXT.
SO WE WANT ALL THE SH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTS OF FOOD.
AND THEN IN ALL, AND ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
READY? BREAK THAT OUT AND THEN READ THAT BACK.
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OKAY.THEN WE DON'T CARE ABOUT CONGREGATE LIVING 'CAUSE IT'S NINE OR MORE.
RIGHT? SO JUST, THAT'S ONE, ONE GROUP SCREW BUILT.
AND WHEN WE HAD 'EM ALL BROKEN OUT INTO INDIVIDUALS, THIS WAS AN ISSUE.
ONCE WE COMBINED THEM ALL DOWN TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT, THEY COMPLICATED
YOU WANNA DO CHEST BUMPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
IT WAS OBVIOUS UNTIL EVERYBODY GOT IN THE ROOM.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION.
I MEAN, I'D RATHER HAVE WORK SESSIONS AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT THAT'S BESIDE POINT.
MY BRAIN'S JUST RIGHT BY SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.
ALL DSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY, YOU GOT AN EXTRA COMMA.
ALL DSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBER.
AND I CAN READ THAT AGAIN IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO.
ALL DSDH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN ANY RES, WAIT A MINUTE.
WITH EXCEPTION OF DISABILITIES IN ANY, ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, RIGHT? SINGULAR RIGHT.
SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBER.
ALL DSCH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, SHALL HAVE NO MORE THAN EIGHT INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH ONE OR MORE STAFF MEMBER.
YOU DID? YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE TIME AT THAT TIME.
DO THAT DRAFT AND SEND IT TO GEORGE TO OKAY.
SO HOW'S THE REST OF THIS? DID WE GO 45 MINUTES ON? THAT WAS THE ISSUE.
THAT WAS THE ONLY, SO THE OTHER ONE WE SMOOTH SAILING ON, I MEAN UNDER E WE JUST HAVE TO CODIFY THAT CORRECTLY.
THERE IT'S FOR SOME FORMATTING YEAH.
FORMATTING ISSUES, RIGHT? FORMATTING ISSUE.
UNDER PARAGRAPH SESSION E, THAT'S THERE WERE, ARE WE READY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD? ARE WE, ARE WE FOR THE, UH, MEETING, UH, LATER THIS MONTH? WHAT MAKE PICK 0.3 BEFORE THE A, THE LINE ABOVE A THE END SPECIAL PROVISION SHALL APPLY TO DESI.
JOHN, DO YOU NEED TO TELL US ABOUT OUR NEXT ISSUE? OH, WE
DOES THE CLICKER WORK, CHARLES, OR DO WE, UH, THINK SO.
IF YOU NEED ME TO GET TO A SPECIFIC I CAN DO THAT TOO.
SO, SO WE, WE WENT OVER E THERE.
SO NOW WE ARE ON, UM, THE DATA CENTERS, THE, UH, PART OF THE, UH, TEXT PART OF THAT.
SO, UM, SO IF YOU'RE AWARE, UM, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE DOING THIS IS, UH, I THINK IT WAS HOUSE BILL 1610.
THAT WAS A HOUSE, UH, THAT WAS NOT, IT WAS VETOED, UH, BY THE GOVERNOR WHERE, UH, THEY WERE PROPOSING THAT THE STATE WOULD REGULATE OR PUT REGULATIONS
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ON, UH, HOW TO REGULATE DATA CENTERS.SO THAT REGULATION, SO NOW THAT KICKS BACK, UH, THEIR DECISION WAS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNING BODY, UH, SHALL TAKE ON THE PRACTICE OR TO IMPLEMENT REGULATIONS ON DATA CENTERS THAT THE STATE WOULD NOT, UH, DO THAT LIKE THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
IT'S LIKE WHEN WE DID THE VAPE ORDINANCE, THE STATE HANDED OUT REGULATIONS WHERE YOU COULD REGULATE THAT AND GAVE SPECIFICS ON REGULATING THE VAPE.
SO WE CHANGED OUR VAPE ORDINANCE OR INITIATED THAT VAPE ORDINANCE OR ESTABLISH THAT.
SO, BUT THE STATE IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT FOR THESE DATA CENTERS AS OF THIS YEAR.
SO THEY HIGHLY SUGGESTED THE LOCALITIES DO THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT SPURNED THIS ON A LITTLE BIT.
SO FIRST WE DID, UH, AND I'LL HIT ON THIS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST, WE DESIGNATED, UH, WHAT, WHERE, WHERE WOULD THIS USED TO BE APPROPRIATE AT? SO IT'S ONLY GONNA BE APPROPRIATE, WE BELIEVE IN THE I TWO DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S NOT CREATING A NEW DISTRICT.
THAT'S THE EXISTING ZONING, UH, DISTRICT WE HAVE.
SO WE SINGLED OUT, THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED, UH, IN THE I TWO.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE.
UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT WITHIN PART THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, WE WOULD PUT THAT IN THE I TWO UNDER D THERE, ESTABLISH STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES FOR CONSTRUCTION AND USE OF OPERATION OF DATA CENTERS IN THE I TWO.
FIND A DISTRICT WHERE WE THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
NOW THIS IS JUST THE TEXT PART.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, UH, RECEIVING APPLICATIONS, REVIEWING APPLICATIONS, NONE HAVE COME FORWARD.
SO THIS IS JUST THE TEXT TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, TOPIC.
SO WE ESTABLISHED IT IN THE I TWO, UH, UNDER D.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD D IN THERE UNDER THE I TWO.
AND WE WOULD ALSO ADD THAT PART WHERE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
WE WOULD ADD THAT WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNDER THE INDUSTRIAL SECTION.
SO WE DESIGNATED THE, THE ZONING DISTRICT, PUT IT IN INDUSTRIAL AND ONLY WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, 1 75 J ON 1 75, 74.
SO THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL, UH, PROVISIONS WITH THAT.
SO THEN WE GET INTO THE HEART OF THE THING THAT YOU DISCUSSED LAST TIME FOR LAST MONTH.
SO THEN WE DO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH THE DATA CENTERS.
UH, SO WE'VE ADDED SOME DIFFERENT TEXTS BASED ON THE LAST WORK SESSION UNDER J UH, SO WE GOT THOSE IN DIFFERENT, UH, THAT YOU ALL WORKED AT.
UH, THE RED IS WHAT WE REVIEWED LAST TIME.
AND THE, THE, THE SENTENCE IN BLUE IS WHAT WE'VE ADDED BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAD IN THE AUGUST WORK SESSION.
AND THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WENT OUT TO EVERYBODY THAT ADDRESSED EACH ONE OF THE COMMENTS AND WHAT WAS DONE ABOUT IT.
UH, I DID FIND ONE THING HERE.
I DON'T THINK, UH, GEORGE, UH, OR SOMEONE COULD LOOK THIS OVER.
I DON'T THINK THIS HERE SHOULD BE A LOWERCASE D HERE BECAUSE WE ARE SINGLING OUT A, B, AND C AS THE APPLICATION WILL INCLUDE A DATA CENTER UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS, A PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND A DATA CENTER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE A LOWERCASE D HERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE? THAT'S JUST A STATEMENT.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT? THAT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, UH, UH, THIS BEING J BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS SECTION ON PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
AND IT SAYS FOLLOW THE FILING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SHALL APPLY TO ALL USES WITHIN I TWO, AND THEN IT STARTS THROUGH THE ALPHABET.
AND SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO UNIQUE ONES OR DATA CENTERS, YOU NEED TO SEPARATE IT.
LIKE I WOULD HAVE IT, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A, A NEW HEADING IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.
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SAY DATA CENTER SUBJECT TO SUPPLEMENTAL PROVISIONS PRESCRIBED.AND THAT WAS BACK ON, UH, H THIS TIME, UM, WHERE IT HAD, WHERE IT WAS INDUSTRIAL, WHERE UNDERNEATH AUTOMOTIVE GRAVEYARD.
SO IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD JUST GO BACK TO, IF YOU COULD JUST GO TO THE BEGINNING OF 1 75, 73 OF 19.
AND THEN YOU CAN SCROLL THAT DOWN THERE.
CHARLES, PLEASE GO TO 1 75, 70.
SO YOU SEE THE FIRST SENTENCE, THE FOLLOWING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SHALL APPLY TO ALL USES WITHIN I TWO, INDUSTRIAL, UH, EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, COLON, AND THEN IT STARTS A, B, C.
AND NOW WE HAVE J WHICH IS DATA CENTERS.
BUT THESE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL USE, RIGHT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GENERAL PERFORMANCE, STANDARDS, VIBRATION, GLARE, HEAT.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE SUGGEST, IF WE'RE GONNA, UM, UM, DRAFT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS JUST FOR A PARTICULAR USE, IE DATA CENTER THAT NEEDS TO BE SEPARATED OUT WITH ITS OWN HEADING IS, IS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.
OH, DEFINITELY UNDER 1 75, 70.
BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE LUMPED INTO, UH, A THROUGH I.
SO JUST STARTED, BASICALLY START OVER JUST A NEW SUBHEADING.
A NEW SUBHEADING, THEN GOING JUST FOR DATA SENTENCE AND THEN START A, B, C, D, AND THEN FROM THERE, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO FOLLOWING PAGE 10.
WELL, WELL, WE COULD, UM, LET, SO, SO THE FIRST PART SAYS FOLLOWING, UH, APPLIED TO ALL USES.
AND THEN THE NEXT SUBHEADINGS GOING TO BE, BE, APPLY ONLY TO DATA CENTERS AND THEN LIST THEM.
SO IT WOULD NOT HAVE A LETTER OR A
WELL, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY THAT THE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE A SUBHEADING AND YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE.
THE FOLLOWING APPLY ONLY TO DATA CENTERS.
BUT NO LETTER OR NUMBER IN FRONT OF, WELL, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE LETTERING AND NUMBERING SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE, BUT, OKAY.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE, WELL, IN ADDITION TO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, A THROUGH I, THE FOLLOWING SHALL APPLY ONLY TO DATA CENTERS.
IN ADDITION TO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, A THROUGH I, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY? THE FOLLOWING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SHALL APPLY ONLY TO DATA CENTER.
WHAT ABOUT DATA CENTERS? REGULATING THE USE DATA CENTER USE, OR TWO DATA CENTERS, DATA CENTER USE.
THEN, THEN GO INTO, AND THEN START BASICALLY THE DATA CENTER PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
IN ADDITION TO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, A THROUGH I, THE FOLLOWING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SHALL APPLY ONLY TO DATA CENTER USE AND THEN START NEW NUMBERING.
I GUESS TO FURTHER CLARIFICATION, IN THE I
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TWO DISTRICT, WITHIN THE I TWO INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT AND THE INDUSTRIAL, WHAT'D YOU CALL IT? INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.THAT IS THE OFFICIAL TERM FOR I TWO.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS A HEADING.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE A HEADING HERE, AND THEN WE'LL START A NEW, WHAT ARE WE NUMBERING? THAT I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE MAYBE YOU JUST CREATE A SUBHEADING AND THEN, AND THEN PICK IT UP WITH J AND SO ON.
SO WE HAVE 1, 7 7, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SUBHEADING.
BUT THE FOLLOWING ONLY APPLY IN ADDITION TO A THROUGH I.
THE FOLLOWING ONLY APPLY TO DATA CENTER.
SO WE COULD MAKE A SENTENCE LIKE THAT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO MESS AROUND WITH THIS.
THAT PERFORMANCE STANDARD, RIGHT? THIS IS GONNA BE A SUB HITTING UNDER THAT.
AND THEN YOU'LL PICK UP, PICK UP WITH THE SAME LETTERING.
SO THE NEXT PERFORMANCE STANDARD WILL BE J, HOWEVER, THAT WILL ONLY APPLY TO DATA.
SO STARTING RIGHT HERE, THEN ALL THIS J IT MAKES A LOT EASIER.
ONE HERE, I GOT IT ON THE SCREEN THERE.
CON I'M REALLY GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
SUBHEADING, DON'T BE SUBHEADING ABOVE J.
RIGHT? CLARIFYING THAT WHAT FOLLOWS ONLY APPLIES TO DATA CENTER.
BUT THEN ARE YOU SAYING NUMBER ONE SHOULD BE JAY? NO.
NO, I I NO, AL I CHANGED IT UP.
I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE LETTERING.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE A BREAK THAT EVERYTHING BELOW ONLY APPLIES TO DATA CENTER.
WELL, HOWEVER, BUT THEN WHEN, WHERE DOES, WHERE DOES THE, WHAT BECOMES J IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
J IS J HE'S JUST GONNA JJ K'S THE SAME IS WHAT HE'S SAYING.
OH, YOU WANT J TO SAY THE SAME, BUT WITH THAT SENTENCE, BUT WITH A BREAK BETWEEN I AND J, HE LOOKS LIKE A DISCLAIMER UNDER OKAY.
INDICATING INDICAT WHAT FOLLOWS ONLY PLASTIC DATA CENTER USE.
WE COULD DO A AND THEN WE COULD JUST DO THIS BEFOREHAND.
AND THE BREAK WILL SAY, IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, THE FOLLOWING ONLY APPLIES IN ADDITION TO PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
A THROUGH I, THE FOLLOWING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SHALL APPLY ONLY TO DATA CENTER USE WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.
WE'RE GETTING THAT PART OF THE CODE.
NOW WHEN WE GET TO D OR THAT J 1D, UM, RIGHT.
THAT SHOULD NOT BE A DI DON'T BELIEVE.
JUST REMOVE THE D AND LET THE SENTENCE STAND BY ITSELF IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND NOT BE, THAT IS JUST A STATEMENT.
IS EVERYBODY FOLLOWING ALONG ON THAT? YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.
WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY THERE? HERE, YOUR HONOR.
WHEN YOU GO TO ONE JD, THIS SHOULD NOT BE D.
WHAT SHOULD IT BE? OR SHOULD IT HAVE A JOB? WELL SEE YOU'RE, SO HERE WE'RE DOING, WE'RE REQUIRING THESE THREE THINGS.
A UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS, A PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND AN ENVIRON ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED IN THIS HERE FOR THE APPLICATION.
THIS HERE IS JUST A STATEMENT.
SO JUST TAKE OUT D MOVE IT TO THE LEFT AND MAKE IT A STATEMENT.
YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE JUST MAKING A STATEMENT THAT THOSE THREE PARTS ARE GONNA BE FOUND IN 1 75 DASH 4, 1 75, 74 I SHOULD SAY.
SO THAT SENTENCE SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE LEFT
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MARGIN OF ONE.DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH, NO, MAKES PERFECT.
UH, IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP CHARLES A. LITTLE BIT TO THE OR DOWN, I'M SORRY.
YOU WANNA GO TO 1 75? 74? YES.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS SENTENCE IS WORDED CORRECTLY BECAUSE THIS WAS INTENDED IF WE, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT'S IN THE I TWO THAT JOIN WARREN COUNTY.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME I TWO DISTRICT, UH, PROPERTY THAT JOINS WARREN COUNTY.
AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO SAY HERE THAT IF WE HAVE AN I TWO DISTRICT THAT JOINS THE COUNTY, WE WOULD HAVE A SETBACK FOR THE REAR, UH, THE REAR, THE SIDE AND THE FRONT.
BUT IF IT JOINS WARREN COUNTY IN THE BACK IN THE REAR, WE WANT THAT SETBACK TO BE NO LESS THAN 200 WHEN IT JOINS THE COUNTY.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY ON, ON OUR PERIMETER, UH, IF THEY CHANGE ANY ZONING, WHATEVER IT IS IN THE COUNTY, WE DON'T WANT THESE TO BE THE SAME SETBACK AS THE I TWO.
I THINK YOU JUST ELIMINATE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE WHAT'S BEFORE THE COMMA.
AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT SIDE OR REAR SETBACK, JUST RIGHT.
JUST GET RID OF, GET RID OF THE FIRST BEFORE THE COMMA AND START CAPITAL S ON SETBACKS.
WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT ARE YOU WANTING THERE NOW? ELIMINATING UNLESS OTHERWISE STRIKE EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF THE COMMA.
AND THEN CAPITAL S FOR SETBACKS FOR PROPERTY, THAT JOINT CORPORATE LIMITS OF TOWN SHOULD HAVE A SETBACK NO LESS THAN 200 FEET.
AND THAT DOES IT THE SHORTER SENTENCE.
NO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INTENDING HERE.
THOSE I TWO PROPERTIES THAT JOIN WARREN COUNTY, BECAUSE WE, WE CAN'T REGULATE WHAT THE COUNTY ON THEIR ZONING DISTRICTS, BUT WE WANT THOSE TO HAVE A SETBACK OF 200 FOOT, THOSE I TWO PROPERTIES THAT'S IN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE TOWN THAT JOIN THE COUNTY.
WE DON'T WANNA PUSH, HAVE THE SETBACK OR THE BUILDING CLOSE TO THE COUNTY PROPERTY DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR ZONING COULD BE.
SO WE WANTED IT TO BE 200 FOOT.
MOST OF THOSE ARE, UH, AGRICULTURAL ZONING NOW IN THE COUNTY.
BUT THE COUNTY COULD REZONE THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO REGULATE THAT, UH, TO BE 200 FOOT.
AND ULTIMATELY THEY CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY IF THEY WANT SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT, THEY COULD MAKE A DEAL WITH THEM IF THEY WANTED TO.
SO WE, WE DID THAT WITH THE, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING RESIDENTIAL 200.
SO WE'RE, IF IT JOINS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, IT'S 200, WHICH IS THE STRICTEST LEVEL.
SO WHEN WE JOIN THE COUNTY, ANY PROPERTY THAT JOINS THE COUNTY, IT'S GONNA BE 200 ALSO.
DOES THAT HELP EVERYBODY? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT'S CLEAR.
UH, SO WE WENT OVER THIS LAST TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, 25 FEET BETWEEN BUILDINGS.
UH, ANOTHER THING I'VE FOUND ACROSS HERE, UH, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING ON NUMBER THREE? MM-HMM
A WHERE IT SAYS SETBACKS FOR PROPERTY THAT ADJOINS THE COURT LIMITS OF THE TOWN SHALL HAVE A SETBACK.
SHOULD THAT BE OF NO LESS THAN 200 FEET? YES.
UM, I WAS A LITTLE, UH, IF YOU SCROLL, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.
UH, CAN YOU SCROLL THE NEXT PAGE PLEASE, CHARLES TO NUMBER EIGHT, PAGE EIGHT.
I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT HERE UNDER THREE 'CAUSE WE WAS DOING A BUFFER THERE.
UH, IT SAYS THERE ALL TREES SHALL BE SIX FEET TALL.
TIME OF PLANNING IN ACHIEVE HEIGHT OF 25 FOOT.
THE PERIMETER BUFFER SHALL BE ESTABLISHED AND MAINTAINED WITH A MINIMUM WIDTH, THE 25 FEET LONGER PERIMETER.
THERE EACH, IN ADDITION, ADDITIONAL PLANNINGS WITHIN THE SETBACK AREA, BUT SPREAD OUTSIDE.
UH, WE DON'T GIVE ANY SPECIFICS ON THAT ONE OF WHAT THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IS.
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SO WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH A PERIMETER BUFFER, 25 FOOT WIDE AROUND THE CAMPUS.AND THEY HAD TO BE PLANTED WITH VEGETATION.
UH, AND AT TIME OF PLANTING, TREES HAD TO BE SIX FEET TALL AT TIME OF PLANTINGS AND THEY HAD TO ACHIEVE A HEIGHT OF A MINIMUM AT LEAST 25 FEET OF TREES.
SO THE INTENT WAS NOT TO SPECIFY WHAT THAT PLANTING WAS GONNA BE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE TREE LINES, SO IT CAN BE LOWER, LOWER GOING.
SO THESE, THESE HERE, THIS HERE PART WOULD BE, UH, PART OF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN WITH THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPING PLAN.
SO, BUT SO THE TREES ARE THE BLOCKAGE, RIGHT? THE STUFF IN FRONT OF 'EM IS JUST BEAUTIFICATION.
SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING HERE.
UH, SO NOW, UH, YOU CAN SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE ADDED THIS TECHNICAL NOTE HERE SINCE LAST TIME.
SO THIS STARTS THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
SO WE PUT THIS TECHNICAL NOTE IN HERE, UH, BASED ON, UM, WHAT WE'RE NOT REGULATING, BUT IT TELLS US WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS TECHNICAL NOTE.
Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT.
THEN THIS STARTED, THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS NEW LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED SINCE THE LAST WORK SESSION.
I CAN JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT HERE.
YEAH, IF YOU WANNA GO OVER, BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE AT THE LAST WORK SESSION ON WE, WE'LL, WE'LL SCROLL THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
LET ME DO A LITTLE PREAMBLE TO THIS.
UM, WHEN THIS CAME UP, WE WERE ORIGINALLY JUST DOING THINGS FROM DBA AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD THAT CAME UP.
AND THAT CONCERN WAS THAT WE WEREN'T, UM, IT WASN'T MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLAINTS AND THE, UM, ISSUES THAT RESIDENTS AROUND DATA CENTERS WERE WORKING.
AND, AND MEGAN AT THAT TIME SAID, WHY AREN'T WE DOING DBC? SO LOOK INTO THAT.
AND IT, IT ADDS COMPLEXITY TO LOOK AT DBC, BUT IT DOES INDEED, UM, ADD OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO GIVE A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO, SO WHAT I DID IS WHEN I ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND BOUGHT A, A METER TO GO ALONG TO, TO MEASURE THIS AND IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THE, HOW I CAN HAND THESE OUT, THIS DOWN HERE, COUPLE COUNTY MAKE IT EASY, BUT PART OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DBA AND DBC IS YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART, THAT FIRST PAGE IS, YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INPUT.
WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS PLAY A, PLAY A TOY FOR YOU SO TO SPEAK HERE.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT, LISTEN TO THIS TO SEE HOW THIS CHART WAS MADE AND GET THIS THING OPEN.
SO THE FIRST FREQUENCY THAT GOES IN THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT WAS 30 HERTZ, WHICH IS ACTUALLY RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF OUR ABILITY TO HEAR 20 HERTZ BEING THE OTHER THING.
AND THAT'S A BE, SO IF I PLAY THAT, IT'S VIRTUALLY UNHIRABLE SHORT OF PUTTING YOUR EAR GREATLY UP TO IT.
SO I'M JUST GONNA STEP THAT UP TO GET SOMETHING A LITTLE HIGHER SO WE CAN HEAR IT.
OKAY, I'M JUST GONNA MOVE AROUND SO YOU CAN HEAR THAT'S A HUNDRED HERTZ, VERY LOW FREQUENCY.
OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO WITH THE CHART.
I'M GONNA GO UP TO THE 300 HERTZ.
THAT ONE I THINK EVERYBODY CAN HEAR FROM THERE.
I'LL JUST GO TO THE HIGHEST NUMBER NOW JUST JUMP TO 8,000.
THIS IS GETTING ABUSIVE TO THE EARS.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CHART IS SHOWING HERE.
THAT RANGE FROM BASICALLY 30 HERTZ TO 8,000 HERTZ.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR LIVES ARE SPENT BELOW 8,000 HERTZ.
LISTENING TO THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN HEAR UP TO 20,000 AND ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY TO 22 DEPENDING ON YOUR GIFTED INDIVIDUAL.
BUT SO THAT'S, SO WE TOOK THIS METER BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY START GETTING THIS THEORETICAL THING.
YOU'RE TRYING TO COMPARE TWO DIFFERENT SCALES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, E, B, A AND DBC.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ALGORITHMS ASSOCIATED WITH 'EM.
SO TO VERIFY THAT IT, IT WAS INDEED TRUE.
I BOUGHT THE METER AND I DID THESE TESTS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FIRST PAGE AND WHERE YOU SEE THAT THE FAR LEFT IS 30 HERTZ, EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS THE SAME TONE BEING PLAYED AT DBA AND DBC, YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
AND THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK WHERE DBA IS, IS SUPPRESSED 'CAUSE IT'S MODELING HOW HUMAN HERE WORKS.
WHILE A DBC IS THE ACTUAL POWER LEVEL AS YOU WALK ALONG, I
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KNOW I PLAYED A HUNDRED HERTZ AND THEN ROUGHLY AT A HUNDRED HERTZ OF SCALE CHANGES AND THEY START MOVING CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER.AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU GET UP TO AROUND A THOUSAND HERTZ, THEY'RE VIRTUALLY OVERLAPPED ON THAT ANOTHER.
SO IT'S SAYING THE SENSITIVITY OF D FOR DBC IS MOSTLY AT THE LOWER FREQUENCIES.
IT GOES ON AND THE REST OF THE VERIFICATION, UM, THAT GOES UP.
AND UH, HAVING SET ALL THAT, I'LL EXPLAIN THE REST OF THE SECTION.
WE'LL GET JOHN JUST WALK THROUGH THE REST OF IT AFTERWARDS.
THERE'S THREE SECTIONS OF TESTING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IN HERE.
ONE IS THIS BASICALLY THE SCALE EXCEPT IT GOES FROM 10 HERTZ, WHICH IS BELOW WHAT WE CAN HEAR, BUT IS WE ARE CAPABLE OF TO BE 20 HERTZ.
EXCUSE ME, WE ARE CAPABLE OF PERCEIVING IT ALL THE WAY UP TO 8,000 HERTZ.
AND IT'S DOING BOTH AND DOING A COMPARISON SIDE BY SIDE.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE, UM, WHERE IT, IT SEPARATES OUT BETWEEN THE UM, 20 HERTZ AND THE 20,000 HERTZ.
AND AGAIN, DEVI, A DDC RIGHT NEXT TO OTHER AND, AND COMPARE IT.
THE LAST ONE IS A COMPARISON WITH OCTAS, WHERE IT'LL START AT 10 HERTZ AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO 20 HERTZ AND 40 HERTZ AND AND 80 HERTZ AND ON AND ON AND ON ALL THE WAY UP TO 20,000 IN BOTH D-B-A-D-B-C COMPARISON TWO SIDE.
WHAT THAT GETS YOU IS, UM, IF ANY TONES OR SPURS OR ODD NOISES OR VIBRATIONS THAT SHOWS UP IN ONE AND NOT THE OTHER CAN BE CAUGHT.
'CAUSE WE'RE DOING A COMPARISON BETWEEN ALL THE SHORT.
IT'S A VERY THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF THE SPECTRUM WITHIN WHAT WE CAN HEAR AND BEYOND WHAT WE CAN HEAR TO WHAT WE CAN PERCEIVE IN THE VIBRATION.
SO THAT WAS JUST MY LITTLE SPIEL ALONG WITH THIS RETURN TO THE OTHER PAGE, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE METER WHERE IT SAYS THE, UM, THIS HAS, UH, INDOOR NOISE WITH TV ON JUST TO SHOW THE DVA AND DVC, UH, ALONGSIDE OF, OF ONE ANOTHER.
AND UM, WITH, UH, SHOWING THE PEAKS.
AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF DIFFERENCE WHEN THE, UH, LOW, LOW FREQUENCY, THE BASE NOISE IS ON THE PEAKS.
SO LOWER THE FREQUENCY OF THE MORE THE PEAKS YOU GET.
SO I TOOK THE METER ON THE NEXT PAGE OUTSIDE AND UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP TWO LINES, IT HAS A D, B, A D, BC, AND I HAVE SOME, JUST SOME GREAT LIST STUFF THAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE AIRCRAFT FLYING OVER, A LAWNMOWER GOING OFF.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE WITH THE TRAIN WHISTLE WHERE IT DIDN'T QUITE GET CAUGHT WHERE, UM, I CAUGHT IT ON DVC, BUT I OR DVA, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH IT ON DVC.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, THERE'S A CAR ON THE FAR RIGHT.
AND WHAT YOU NOTICE HERE ON THE CAR IS THEY'RE PRETTY SIMILAR AS THEY WERE QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT ON, ON OTHER FREQUENCIES, LIKE THE AIRCRAFT WAS A LOT DIFFERENT 'CAUSE IT WAS A LOW RUMBLE.
SO LOWER FREQUENCIES, LAWN MOWER HAD MORE HIGH FREQUENCY COMPONENTS, SO THEY WERE CLOSER TOGETHER.
SO THIS, THIS IS AGAIN, A VALIDATION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, WHY WE'RE DOING COMPARISON TO TRYING.
SO YOU CAN RUN INTO CASES WHERE YOU'LL GET A, A SPIKE AT A LOW FREQUENCY, UH, ESPECIALLY, AND YOU'LL CATCH IT IN DBC, BUT WON'T SEE IT IN DBA BECAUSE OF THAT SUPPRESSION.
SO THAT'S, BUT BY DOING SO, WE HAVE A WHOLE OPPORTUNITY AND, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE BASIS OF THE REST OF THE TEXT THAT WE, YOU WALK THROUGH
IF YOU CAN SCROLL, CONTINUE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS LANGUAGE IS HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NOW BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE LAST WORK SESSION, UH, ALAN TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
UH, WE COMPARE THESE TO OTHER LOCALITIES, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
I THINK AVAMAR COUNTY, CHESTERFIELD AND A FEW OTHERS, UH, WE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS, UH, LAST YEAR AT THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF ZONING OFFICIALS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.
WE HAD REGIONAL MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
WE HAD TWO MEETINGS IN RICHMOND WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, SO WE DID RESEARCH BASED ON WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES, UH, BASICALLY KIND OF ASKING THEM, IF YOU HAD TO REWRITE YOUR DATA CENTER ORDINANCE, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE? WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY? AND WHAT DID YOU DO WRONG? SO WE KIND OF TOOK THEIR INFORMATION BASED ON THESE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH OTHER LOCALITIES AND SAID, HOW CAN WE, UH, IF YOU WAS GONNA DRAFT A NEW ORDINANCE THAT'S TELL US WHAT YOU DID WRONG AND WHAT YOU DID RIGHT? AND LET US WORK THROUGH THESE.
SO WE COMPARE, WE EVEN LOOKED AT ORDINANCE FROM OTHER STATES TO SEE HOW THEY DID THIS.
SO, UH, MAYBE EVEN IN EUROPE, RIGHT? SO THE RESEARCH WAS DONE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, LOCALLY, BUT UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER.
I THINK, UH, VIRGINIA ZONING OFFICIALS, I THINK THE 300 AND SOME MEMBERS OF DIFFERENT LOCALITIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH, WE DISCUSSED THESE ISSUES.
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TOPIC WITH DATA CENTER.SO WE DISCUSSED THIS AT A GREAT LENGTH AT A WORK SESSION.
UH, WHAT, HOW THEY DRAFTED THEIR ORDINANCE.
THEY SOUGHT INPUT FROM, UH, US ALSO WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DRAFTED WITH, UH, WITH ALL THE RESEARCH.
SO IT WASN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THESE NUMBERS, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, AND I'LL REITERATE THAT LATER THIS MONTH, YOU KNOW, THESE NUMBERS CANNOT BE ARBITRARY WHEN WE REGULATE THIS.
SO WE DO THE SETBACKS WITH ZONING.
YOU CAN DO, UH, REGULATE THE SETBACKS ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU CAN REGULATE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, THE SITE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA OF THE BUILDING THAT OCCUPIES THE LAND.
WE CAN REGULATE THAT BY ZONING ORDINANCE.
BUT THE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE COME WITH THAT THEY CANNOT, YOU KNOW, THEY CANNOT BE ARBITRARY, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T JUST BE BRINGING, PULLING A FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT, A NUMBER OUT OF YOUR HAT AND SAY, WE WANT TO ENFORCE IT THIS WAY.
SO IT HAS TO BE ENFORCEABLE, BUT IT CANNOT BE ARBITRARY HOW WE COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS.
SO THAT'S THE PART OF ALL OF THIS TEXT WITH THE, UH, HOW WE DID THE CONSULTATION WITH OTHER LOCALITIES AND OTHER STATES, HOW THEY DID THEIRS.
ALSO, I GOT FEEDBACK FROM THEM TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
YOU WANNA SCROLL? UH, UH, CHARLES, SO THIS WAS ON THE NOTE NOR ORDINANCE THAT WE DID.
WE CHANGED SOME TIMES, UH, TO TAKE THE READINGS, UH, THAT SOME OF IT WAS LEFT THE SAME, THE, THE, THE TIMEFRAME WE DID THAT PART.
UH, THIS PART HERE, IF YOU READ OVER THAT, WHERE THEY TAKE THE MEASUREMENTS FROM.
UH, YOU WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR.
MINUTE BACK UP JUST SO YOU GOT INTO, YOU GOT INTO, UM, NEXT SECTION.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD SCROLL, TRY, IT'S OKAY.
GETTING CONTRARY THE OTHER WAY.
WE HAD IMPULSE, NOISE AND VIBRATION.
WE, YOU NEED WHERE IT SHOWS A ABOVE THAT B
THAT WOULD BE PAGE 10 I BELIEVE.
THIS, THIS WAS ONE MORE OF THE THINGS OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT.
UH, IT ACTUALLY WAS THERESA WORRIED ABOUT THE LOW FREQUENCY VIBRATION.
WE CAN GET VIBRATION FROM TWO SOURCES FROM THE SOUND OR FROM SHAKING OF THE EARTH IN EFFECT.
SO THIS GIVES, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER, OTHER PLACES AND HOW THEY QUANTIFY OR TRY TO DO THIS.
SO THEY'LL SAY NO, PERCEPTIBLE WILL BE ONE THING YOU'LL HEAR, BUT THAT'S NOT MEASURABLE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE 0.2002 AND THE 0.001, YOU'LL SEE IN HERE WHAT THAT IS, IS ACCELERATION FROM STANDSTILL TO ONE DIRECTION ACCELERATION.
IF YOU LOOK THOSE UP, YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT IT'S VIR 0.001, IT'S VIRTUALLY NOTHING.
IMPERCEPTIBLE 0.002 IS BARELY PERCEPTIBLE.
AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO IN, IN EFFECT, THE DATA CENTER WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO ADD DATA, ADD VIBRATION TO THE ENVIRONMENT BEYOND THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
THAT, THAT IN EFFECT IS WHAT THESE, THAT ACCELERATION TELL YOU.
RIGHT? SO, UM, YOU WANT TO GO TO PAGE, I GUESS IT'S PAGE 11 NOW, RIGHT? SO LET'S SEE HERE.
THOSE ARE JUST THE EXCEPTIONS OF GOING HOME WHEN THEY'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION ORDER, THERE'S TRUCKS, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
TAKING THE CAMPUS BOUNDARY, THAT'S WHERE THEY NEEDED MEASUREMENTS NEED TO BE TAKEN AT, WITH THE EXCEPTION, YOU KNOW, DURING CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE WERE THE CHANGES OUTLINED IN BLUE, UM, THAT CAME FROM THE LAST WORK SESSION BASICALLY ON THE NOISE AND ON VIBRATION.
THAT'S THE SECTIONS WE, UH, DID THE RESEARCH ON AND ADDED TO.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN RECORDED AS PEAK ACCELERATION? G UM, G IS GRAVITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, GOING FROM ZERO STOP TO A G.
YOU KNOW, AN ACCELERATION POINT.
THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS OF MEASURING, UM, SHAKING IN FACT.
AND, AND THIS, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THEM, BUT IT'S, IT'S ADEQUATE AND IT'S COMMONLY USED JUST JUST TO BE SURE IT THAT CHARACTER, IS THAT THE CORRECT CHARACTER OBJECT UNDER B WHERE IT SAYS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SECTION SYMBOL 0.001 G.
YEAH, BUT IT IS THE SECTION SYMBOL, BUT IN THAT, WHAT, WHAT IS TRYING TO SAY? IT, IT, IT, IT'S A SYMBOL THAT THEY USE COMMONLY FOR WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ACCELERATION.
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I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT, UM, IT'S COMMONLY USED IN THERE.SO IS THAT, IS THAT THE CORRECT THING? THAT IS THE CORRECT SYMBOL.
BUT LIFE ME, I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT IT STANDS FOR AT THIS SECOND.
I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
IT'S ON YOUR COMPUTER SO YOU CAN GET, WE COULD WE JUST USE WORD ACCELERATION? YOU COULD USE, UM, YOU COULD USE ACCELERATION.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD ACTUALLY LEAVE THAT OUT.
YEAH, YOU COULD ACTUALLY LEAVE THAT OUT.
SO SUBSTITUTE THAT SYMBOL WITH THE WORDS PEACE, ACCELERATION.
IT, IT REALLY DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING.
IF YOU GO BACK TO ONE UNDER C, PEAK PARTICLE ACCELERATION SHALL NOT EXCEED THE BASELINE MEASUREMENTS.
AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A, WHICH IS OH 0.02 AND THEN OH 0.01 FOR FREQUENCIES GREATER THAN 50 WITHOUT THAT SYMBOL.
BECAUSE WE DEFINE THAT IN NUMBER ONE.
AND ADAM, USUALLY YOU WOULD SEE THIS WITH THE, THE SYMBOL 0.01 G AND NOTHING ELSE.
BUT I HAD ADDED THE PEAK ACCELERATION.
IS IT WHAT HAPPENED? RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO, SO IT CAN BE DELETED ON THE NEXT LINE.
BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED THAT IN NUMBER ONE UNDER SIX C ONE.
SO WE'RE LEAVING IN THE WORDS PEAK ACCELERATION ON C ONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE SUBJECT LINE.
PEAK ACCELERATION, PARTICLE ACCELERATION SHALL NOT EXCEED.
AND THIS IS THE NUMBERS AT, UM, IF YOU WANNA SCROLL DOWN THE, ON THE PAGE THERE, CHARLES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
I THINK WE SHOULD INSERT, UH, HOW FAR DOWN AM I GOING RIGHT HERE? IF YOU LEAVE IT HERE, STAYING WITHIN THE BLUE.
SO IF WE STAY HERE, SHOULD NOT THIS THE, UH, SHALL SHOULD BE INSERTED THERE.
ALL NEW DATA CENTERS IN FRONT.
ROYAL, WHY DO WE NEED NEW? BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE.
SO WHY DO WE NEED NEW? I LIKE THAT.
WELL, THAT'LL BE FOR ANY IT FOR FUTURE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING LONG TERM.
THIS WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE FOR, DOESN'T ALL INCLUDE ALL.
WELL, YOU WOULD THINK IF WE HAVE, IF, IF THIS GETS, UH, UH, ADDED SOME YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, SOMEONE MAY WANT TO CONVERT A BUILDING TO IT.
YOU COULD HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING OR THEY WANT TO EXPAND AN EXISTING BUILDING IN THE I TWO.
SO THESE LIGHTING STANDARDS WOULD APPLY.
YOU COULD HAVE, UH, AS WELL EXPANSION OF RENOVATING OF IN THE FUTURE.
UH, AND WE, UH, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENERGY SERVICES, ESPECIALLY ENERGY SERVICES ON THESE OUTDOOR LIGHTING STANDARDS.
THEY REVIEWED THAT AND MADE SOME RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE UNDER PART SEVEN.
UH, WITH THAT, UM, THEY MADE NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
THEY MADE NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES AFTER THE MEETING.
SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE REVIEWED.
UH, YOU REVIEWED LAST MONTH, UH, ON THE LIGHTING AND THE WATER COOLING STANDARDS.
YOU HAD NO COMMENTS EXCEPT FROM WATER, WATER COOLING.
IF YOU GO TO PAGE 12, UH, CHARLES UNDER EIGHT, THERE WAS ONE COPY.
SO UNDER WATER COOLING STANDARDS, WE ADDED TWO THINGS.
WE GO, YEAH, THERE'LL BE THE NEXT PAGE.
WE HAVE A, B, C, AND WE ADDED D, WHICH IS ON YEAH.
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THIS CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT ENCOURAGING, UM, THE, UH, UH, USE OF WATER, UH, TO LIMIT WATER CONSUMPTION AND, AND TO, UM, THE TYPE OF CO COOLERS AND GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO REVENUE EFFICIENT TECHNOLOGIES.ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T MANDATE WHAT IT IS, WE CAN ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT, WHERE THAT CAME FROM YOUR GUYS' COMMENTS.
DIDN'T WE ALSO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION ABOUT FUEL AND DIDN'T, WERE YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE
THAT IS THAT STILL THERE? THAT'S STILL THERE.
WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID, WE DON'T WANNA SPECIFY HOW THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO INNOVATE SO WE CAN DO WITHIN THE LIMITS, BUT IT BE IT THE POWER, BE IT THE, UM, WE CAN GO WHAT YOU SCROLL BACK, GEORGE, DOES THAT HAVE ANY, ANY WEIGHT IN THE LAW? SOMETHING THAT JUST ENCOURAGES? I, I, I WAS DISTRACTED.
NO, IT, I, IT WOULDN'T HAVE WEIGHT IN THE LAW.
UH, JUST SAY YOU ENCOURAGE, YOU ENCOURAGE A COMPANY TO DO IT.
YOU'RE NOT TELLING THE DO IT OR MANDATING YOU'RE ENCOURAGING THEM TO DO IT.
SO IT'S JUST PART OF, WE, WE WANT TO, AS A TOWN, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES TO SAVE WATER, SAVE POWER, AND SO ON.
BUT WE CAN'T MANDATE WHICH SECTION ARE WE? THERE'S NO SECTION ON YOU POWER.
SO WE'RE JUST TALKING A SECTION THAT'S NOT THERE.
UM, JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT OF THE VERY PAGE, THE GENERAL STATEMENT.
ENCOURAGING, I MEAN, IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, WE INNOVATIVE YEAH.
INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS SOLUTION TO THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YEAH.
HERE IT IS ON, ON DATA UNDER NUMBER ONE, DATA CENTER, PERFORMANCE SERVICE, VERY, WHEREVER POSSIBLE, INNOVATIVE RESOURCE, POWER, WATER, ET CETERA.
UM, IMPLEMENTATIONS ARE ENCOURAGED IS WHERE IT SAYS UNDER J ONE'S ASPIRATIONAL.
SO THAT, AND, BUT THAT WAS ADDED AS A PART OF THE CONVERSATION TOO.
SO WHEN TECHNOLOGY COMES ALONG AND YOU CAN HAVE A NUCLEAR POWER GENERATOR IN YOUR BACKYARD, THAT'S COOL.
THAT'S NOT FEEL, SO, SO WE ARE, WE'RE ALLOWING IT POSSIBLY.
WELL, THEY COULD PROPOSE IT IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
SO THE FUEL SOURCE WILL BE, MAKE THAT, OKAY.
UM, WELL, THE REST OF THE, UH, LET'S SEE.
SO YOU WANNA SCROLL, UH, YOU GO ON TO AND SOME THINGS.
WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO HIT ON AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? I MEAN, UH, DEFINITELY WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, GO LINE BY LINE WITH THIS.
UH, WE'VE JUST GONE AHEAD ON THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SETBACKS, THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN IT HAS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, BUT YOU WILL HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH THAT.
UM, AND I, I THINK WE SHOULD, ON THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, EXPLAIN EACH OF HOW THOROUGH THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ARE, UM, IN, IN SOME FASHION, NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, PLAY TONES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
NO, BUT THE MAIN POINT THAT NEEDS TO COME ACROSS IS THAT NONE OF THIS IS ARBITRARY.
THAT THIS HAS BEEN THOUGHT OUT, RESEARCHED EXTENSIVELY AND, AND BACKED UP BY DATA.
THAT THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING WE PULLED OUT OF THIN AIR.
SO, UH, ONE THING KEEP ON BUILDING SIZE, I KIND OF LOOKED AT THAT.
WE DID THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
I MEAN, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT? THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF, UH, THE ROYAL KING.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ROYAL KING BUILDING DOWN THERE, THAT'S PROBABLY AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR JACKSON FURNITURE THERE ON SIXTH STREET.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU, IF THOSE BUILDINGS AREN'T KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH YOU, WE CAN, I'LL GET SOME BETTER NUMBERS OUT.
UH, SHOW THAT GRAPHICALLY SO PEOPLE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE HEIGHT OF A BUILDING.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL DO A ZONING MAP SHOWING THAT THE, THE AREAS OF THE I TWO ZONING DISTRICT, THESE ARE NOT NEW DISTRICTS.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
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COMPARISON.WHAT IS ALSO ALLOWED IN THE I TWO, UH, I THINK SOME PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO BE BACKING UP WITH DATA.
SO I MEAN, OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE PERMITTED IN THE I TWO IN THE INDUSTRIAL SECTION IS, UH, WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL STORAGE SITES, AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARDS, SCRAP METAL PROCESSING.
THOSE ARE ALLOWED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THIS SAME DISTRICT.
UH, BUT THEY, UH, THEIR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WILL BE LESS THAN THE DATA CENTERS ON THE SETBACKS.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DO A LITTLE COMPARISON TO SHOW THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDE SOME AERIAL PHOTOS OF ONES THAT EXIST IN TOWN RIGHT.
SO JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT, THAT THAT'S WHERE THIS WOULD BE GOING.
IN THE SAME TYPE INDUSTRIAL SETTING THAT WE WOULD PERMIT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
FOR EXAMPLE, SCRAP METAL PROCESSING, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL STORAGE IN AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARDS ARE PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE I TWO ALSO.
JUST, AND, AND IT IS OKAY TO BE DIFFERENT FROM A, EVERYBODY, IT'S NOT BEING UNFAIR TO THEM BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE PROPERTIES OF THE DATA CENTER OFTEN, YOU KNOW, IMPOSES BY THEIR NOISE MM-HMM
SO IT ISN'T BEING, LIKE I SAY, IT ISN'T SEGREGATING THEM SAYING THEY'RE WORSE THAN THIS.
AND I MEAN, THIS IS MOSTLY HOW ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, PICKED FROM EVERYWHERE ELSE.
AND THAT WAS, UH, I THINK THE CONDITION FROM THE GOVERNOR, UM, HIS OPINION, I'LL MAYBE PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN.
AND HE SUGGESTED THAT THE, WE WOULD NOT GET HELP FROM THE STATE TO HOW TO DRAFT WHAT'S REQUIRED ON THESE.
UH, SO WE, LIKE I SAID, WE TOOK THE BEST OF THE BEST, I THINK, AND THREW OUT THE WORST TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, SO WE, I THINK WE NEED TO HIT ON THE TAX PORTION TOO, BECAUSE LIKE THE MONEY, LIKE, UM, WHEN PEOPLE, I THINK YOU WERE KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT LIKE IT BEING FOR FEDERAL USES OR SOMETHING, THAT IT WOULD BE TAX EXEMPT.
OH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE STORIES THAT, THAT CAME.
I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF DISCLAIMER SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S TAX CODE, THAT'S NOT THE LAND USE OF IT.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THE COUNTY SET SOME OF THAT RATE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
DIFFERENT AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR MARCH.
AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE NOT REVIEWING AN APPLICATION.
HOW WE'RE GONNA REGULATE A POTENTIAL APPLICATION.
WE'RE ESTABLISHING PRINCIPLES OF LAND.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY A LESSON LEARNED AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS.
'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MISTAKES THAT ONE PEOPLE MADE ON THE, BY HAVING LIMITED REGULATION, THEY BUILT A DATA CENTER THAT EFFECTIVELY WAS EXEMPT BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT AND OWNERS.
AND SO THIS, THIS WILL PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
AND I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC IS WHAT ARE THE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THIS ISN'T GONNA GENERATE ANY TAX REVENUE OR THERE'S GONNA BE NO NET BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND IN REALITY, WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY TO, BUT THE OTHER PART OF THIS THAT ISN'T PART THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS THERE'S A SECTION ON TOP OF THIS WHERE ALL THOSE TAX POLICIES ARE SET.
AND, AND THAT, THAT HAS TO BE CAPTURED IN THERE AS WELL.
THAT GOES, BUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S BEYOND LAND USE.
WE CAN ONLY, YOU KNOW, REGULATE LAND USE.
SO MY REASON, I MENTION THAT EVERY TIME WE GET INTO CONVERSATION, THIS, THAT GETS DRUG INTO IT.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE YOU DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE WITH THE TAX SITUATIONS AND, AND THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS LAND USE.
UH, AS FAR AS YOU CAN ADDRESS IT.
JUST, JUST JUST WHAT I RUN INTO.
SEE ANY BRUISES,
UH, THEN WE'LL ADD THIS SECTION HERE.
THOSE ARE THE THREE SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO UH, INCLUDE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AN IMPACT, UH, ANALYSIS ON UTILITIES, UH, WITH THAT, UH, UNDER A, OR, UM, THE FIRST PART THERE.
THEN WE GO DOWN TO, UH, LET'S SEE, SOMETHING'S THERE IS NOT LABELED CORRECTLY
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BECAUSE WE HAVE, IF YOU SCROLLING DOWN, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING NOT LABELED RIGHT.'CAUSE WE'VE GOT 1 75, 74 1, AND WE GO TO FIVE.
IF YOU SCROLL A LITTLE BIT MORE, CHARLES GOT IT.
THERE'S NO A BUT THERE'S A B, RIGHT? SO THE REQUIRED UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS, DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE A YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE A, BECAUSE THE FIRST PART UNDER DATA CENTER IMPACT ANALYSIS I TWO, WHAT THEY NEED TO SUBMIT IS, IS A, UH, REQUIRED UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS.
AND THAT SHOULD BE UNDER LINE LIKE BUFO AMONG THEIR THERE WITH ME.
RIGHT? THEN, THEN, THEN YOU'LL, THEN THAT, THAT ONE THROUGH FIVE PERTAINS TO THE UIA.
AND IF YOU SCROLL ON DOWN, THAT GIVES THE PURPOSE THERE.
UH, AND IT'S JUST THOSE, UH, FIVE THINGS THAT UNDER THAT THEN UNDER, THEN THAT SHOULD BE C UNDER PHYSICAL IMPACT.
THE PIA QUESTION FOR LOCAL ENGINEER, IS THERE ANY WAY TO MEASURE HEAT? YES.
AND THAT, THAT IS PART OF THIS AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
AND IT SHOWS UP IN TWO PLACES, REALLY PHYSICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL INFRARED, THAT ONE OF THE SENSORS THEY CAN USE TO DO THAT IS INFRARED.
WELL, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, HAVE, UM, UH, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT REMOTELY, IT TENDS TO BE INFRARED.
WHEN YOU'RE DOING A SITE, IT TENDS TO BE TOTAL SENSORS.
WE HAD SOMETHING MESSED UP THERE.
THAT'S SOMETHING NOT QUITE RIGHT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, CONNIE, IF YOU, IF YOU SCROLL BACK UP TO FOLLOW ON, GO SCROLL UP THE PAGE, I GUESS.
UH, CHARLES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
SO UNDER 1 75, 1 74, DATA CENTER IMPACT ANALYSIS, I TWO, WE'RE DOING AN, UH, A UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS.
YOU FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME, UH, ALAN, RIGHT.
SO THAT SHOULD BE A, I BELIEVE.
THAT SHOULD BE A THEN IF WE SCROLL DOWN, UH, THEN YOU HAVE B 'CAUSE THAT I ADDRESSES THE UTILITIES DOWN THROUGH ONE THROUGH FIVE.
THEN WE HAVE, FOR SOME REASON, PHYSICAL IMPACT IS B, WHICH YOU C, C, EXCUSE ME.
THEN YOU HAVE, UH, IF YOU'RE SCROLLING DOWN FOR ME, CHARLES, YEAH, I CAN, THERE YOU HAVE THE B DATA CENTER.
RIGHT? THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU HAVE IT AGAIN, BUT WITHOUT IT SAYING DATA CENTER.
DATA CENTER, PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE C IS PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
PIA REQUIRED CIA, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE B AND C ARE THE SAME? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M CONFUSED WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THEN YOU COME DOWN HERE, YOU HAVE
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DATA CENTER PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.AND YOU HAVE THE SAME THING HERE.
SO YEAH, THIS BEING THE SECTION, JUST GOOGLE IMPACT ANALYSIS REQUIRED MUST.
SO THIS IS THE HEADING, AND THIS IS THE STATEMENT.
PHYSICAL COURT SUBMIT PHYSICAL IMPACT
YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO A WAY WITH THIS LINE HERE AND JUST USE THIS STANDING BY ITSELF.
RIGHT? WHERE IT SAYS THIS, IT HAS, UH, UNDER PURPOSE, IT HAS, YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE A NEW DATA CENTER HAS NOISE, TRAFFIC, VISUAL APPEARANCE.
THEN IT SAYS PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
PIA REQUIRED, UM, IT REALLY, UH, THAT, THAT IS KIND OF REDUNDANT.
YOU COULD JUST GET RID OF THAT AND LEAVE.
APPLICANTS MUST SUBMIT A PHYSICAL, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WE'RE NO, GET RID OF C.
JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S COMING LINE.
BUT SAYS C WHAT, WHAT STARTS AT THE END OF PAGE 15? GET RID, JUST GET RID OF THIS LINE RIGHT HERE.
NO, HE'S SAYING JUST GET RID OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE.
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THIS, BUT BE, AND TAKE OUT THIS AND IT'S REDUNDANT.
PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS PIA REQUIRED, WE'RE SCRATCHING THAT OUT.
AND THEN THE, THE STATEMENT HOLDS TRUE STILL.
EXCEPT YOU DON'T HAVE WELL PARALLEL STRUCTURE.
DON'T HAVE PARALLEL STRUCTURE.
BECAUSE UNDER PURPOSE ONE IS NOISE.
AND UNDER PIA REQUIRED ONE IS NOISE.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK THERE IT'S NOT GEORGE.
WE SHOULD NUMBER THIS ONE THROUGH FIVE.
THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDE, THAT SHOULD BE IN HERE.
SO WE'RE NOT DOING A THAT, THAT'S JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S COMING, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT SO IF I'M GOING, IF YOU'RE GONNA CITE THE CODE, WE'RE GONNA BE 1 75, 74 B, UH, RIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE DATA CENTER PHYSICAL IMPACT ANALYSIS.
THEN YOU HAVE, THIS WOULD BE B ONE.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THIS, THIS CODE WOULD BE, WE WOULD REPRESENT AS B ONE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER HERE.
SO I THINK THAT SHOULD JUST GET RID OF THE NUMBER.
I WOULD GET RID OF THE NUMBERING.
AND JUST INCLUDE IT IN THE SENTENCE.
SO INCLUDE THE, INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, NOISE, TRAFFIC, VISUAL, TY, THEN THIS GOES OUT.
CAN'T JUST MOVE THEM UP TO AFTER THE COLON TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
IF THIS ONE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING NOISE, TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER, THEN THEN WE START OFF WITH, UH, WHICH WOULD PAGE JUST KIND OF CUT OFF THERE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE B ONE UNDER NOISE IMPACT STUDY.
ON AS PART OF THE SECOND, BECAUSE THOSE JUST CORRESPOND TO THE NUMBERS DOWN BELOW.
SO JUST GET RID OF THOSE NUMBERS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO B NINE SO THEY DON'T CORRESPOND BECAUSE, SO TWO TRAFFIC IS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T CORRESPOND.
THEY SHOULD BE IN THE SAME ORDER.
YEAH, WE NEED TO FIX THE ORDER.
SO THAT NOISE IS LIKE ONE TRAFFIC.
WE COULD JUST REWORD THIS SENTENCE HERE.
AND I'LL PUT IT IN THE ORDER AS BELOW.
I LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE DOING THE EDITING AND I AM NOT USING THE WHOLE STATEMENT.
I'M JUST USING THE ONE WORD NOISE.
OR DO YOU WANT IT? UM, I, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THOSE AS IT STATED BELOW MY OPINION.
THEN THIS ONE HERE SHOULD SAY TRAFFIC AND ACCESS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN HEAT, HEAT AND AIR MISSION, HEAT THAT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, BE CONFUSION.
JUST THE BRIEF SUMMARY WOULD BE FINE.
I THINK THAT I ACTUALLY PREFER THE BRIEF.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE NOISE, HEAT, TRAFFIC, VISUAL VIBRATION,
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AND THEN THE LAND USE.I MEAN, I WOULD, ARE WE ONLY LISTING ONE THROUGH FIVE? YES.
UM, THEN WE ARE CLEAR IF WE SCROLL, CHARLES, PAGE 17.
SO WE'LL HAVE ONE THROUGH, THEN C WOULD BE DATA CENTER IMPACT, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
UH, THEN WHAT WE ADDED AFTER THAT, IF YOU SCROLL A LITTLE BIT MORE DOWN, WE DID ADD WASTEWATER THERE.
THAT WAS BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS WORK THAT IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF THERE IMPLIED, BUT JUST MAKE IT BLATANT RATHER, RATHER.
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE CONFUSION THAT WAS I THINK MAYBE WAS SAYING, SO IT JUST ADDED THE WORD.
JUST IF YOU WANNA SCROLL, UH, UH, THE NEXT PAGE CHARLES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
AND THEN WE UH, WE ADDED THERE UNDER F UH, PLANS FOR AND WHAT? AND WASTEWATER.
IT'S THAT, UH, IN BLUE WE ADDED THAT WORDING TO THAT SENTENCE.
JUST, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, IF THEY'RE LIKE PURGING THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOMETHING AND THERE'S SOME CONTAMINATED ORDER, IT HAS TO, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY OF HANDLING IT AND THEN WE WOULD BE ADDING THOSE DEFINITIONS.
THOSE WOULD BE ADDED TO 1 75 3.
THE DEFINITION IS THAT THE DEFINITION, NORMAL DEFINITION.
UM, SECTION ADDITIONS TO THE DEFINITIONS.
YOU SCROLL, THEN THAT GOES TO THE, UH, CHARLES, I THINK YOU IS KEEP GONE.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AT G IS ACTUALLY DEFINED IN THE DEFINITIONS, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT? IT'S GOING DOWN.
SO, SO GI THINK YOU SCROLL, I THINK IT'S ON PAGE.
YOU HERE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS? EMS, DO YOU MEAN EMERGENCY MEDICAL SYSTEMS OR SERVICES? BECAUSE I NOTICED UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
YOU SAID FIRE AND EMS, I'M ASSUMING IT'S EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED MEDICAL RESPONSE TO PRE EMERGENCY EMERGENCY.
I, I DID MEAN MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. UM, BUT WE COULD DO MEDICAL.
IT COULD BE, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE HOW IT'S USED.
MANAGEMENT IS NOT, THIS IS, YEAH.
PURELY MEDICAL, RIGHT? EMS. YEAH.
LET ME MAKE SURE IT'S NOT USED SOMEWHERE.
WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE DEFINITION.
SO ON ON THE DEFINITION WHERE IT HAD ME EMERGENCY ALL WAY IN THE BACK MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK COMPARED AFTER THE PATENT.
YOU MEAN AT THAT WAY AT THE END? YEAH.
WELL, I'M GOING THE DEFINITION IN THE, ALRIGHT, SO IF WE COULD COVER THAT AGAIN.
THIS SHOULD BE, UH, WHAT'S THE SUGGEST? JUST THAT ONE CHANGE? YES.
MEDICAL SYSTEMS OR SERVICES? SERVICES.
INSTEAD OF MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, I, I THINK EITHER ONE WOULD WORK.
BUT EMS WHAT YOUR DEFINITION IS MORE COMMON.
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES SERVICES.
THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS CAME OUT OF INDUSTRIAL BOOK.
UH, HOW IS THERE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE BMP.
BEST MANAGE PROCESS CAN BE PRACTICES
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TOO.YEAH, BECAUSE IT CAN BE PRACTICES.
CHANGE PROCESS TO PRACTICES THEN.
SO BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, PRACTICE OR PRACTICE OR RULE OR SINGULAR.
WHAT DO WE WANT? WELL, IT'S USUALLY, BUT WELL, IT'S REPEATABLE PRACTICES.
SO I GUESS IT'D BE PRACTICES PROCESS.
COULD THEY ALSO USE THAT TERMINOLOGY IN STORM WATER? THAT SAME EMERGENCY REALLY? BMPS, BMP AS SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, THAT WILL BE, UH, STORM WATER'S NOT IN OUR PART OF THE CODE.
SO I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL BE FINE WITH THAT, I THINK.
UM, ARE YOU GUYS COMFORTABLE? ARE THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIS TIME? I THINK THAT THIS WILL, DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING'S BEEN ADDRESSED? THAT CAN, COULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESS.
AND I THINK THAT, I THINK IT AND THE PUBLIC COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THESE CHART ON THE WEBSITE.
IT'S OUT THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW ALONG WITH THAT OTHER DOCUMENT THAT WAS THAT.
WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE TODAY, BUT WHY WE'RE, WHY GO TO THE EXTENT OF THE R WHAT APPROVES EVERYTHING IN YOUR PACKET IS ON THE WEBSITE.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS SECTION WHERE IT SAYS WHY DO WE NEED SPECTRAL ANALYSIS AS A WHOLE THING ONCE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING CALL A HEARING, WE'LL ADVERTISE IT.
YOU CAN LISTEN TO THEIR FEEDBACK AND YOU MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT.
IF YOU'RE READY TO SEND IT TO COUNSELOR, NOT, OR YOU WANNA KEEP UP.
WHEN WILL THE ADS APPEAR? WHY TODAY? OKAY.
AND NEXT WEDNESDAY AND THEN IT'LL BE THE MEETING.
SO THAT WAS POSTED, CAME OUT IN PAPER TODAY.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SEE IT WITH THE EDITS HERE NEXT FEW DAYS? OH YEAH.
I'M GONNA WORK ON IT TOMORROW.
WELL, THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR DOING THE EDIT AND STUFF ON IT.
I KNOW IT'S MORE FUN THAN A BARREL.
I MEAN, I THINK IT, WHEN THIS ALL FINISHES UP, THIS COULD BECOME A MODEL.
WE ARE MONTH THAT YOU IS BUSY, RIGHT? YOU LOUD IS BUSY.
I THINK IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE TOUTED AS A NATIONAL NEW NATIONAL MODEL STATUTE.
WE'LL SEE IF WE GET THROUGH TOWN COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE TOWN COUNCIL.
AND THEN I'LL THEN I'LL CRACK THE BEER
ABOUT BRING SNACKS,
WE'LL DO A LITTLE COMPARISON BASED ON THE SETBACKS.
UH, I'LL PROBABLY DO A LITTLE CHART BASED ON THE SETBACKS.
SO INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH ALL THE TEXTS, WE'LL WE'LL DO A LITTLE CHART ON THE SETBACKS FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WITH THAT.
AND WE'LL ALSO GIVE A LITTLE CHART BASED ON WHAT IS THE OTHER PERMITTED SPECIAL USE PERMITS IN THAT I TWO THE COMPARISON.
SO WE, SOMEONE CAN SEE, UH, HOW WE'RE REGULATING THAT.
IF ANOTHER ONE OF THE SPECIAL USE, UH, WOULD COME IN FOR AN APPLICATION FOR WHATEVER NOW AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARD, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, WE'LL DO THE SIZE COMPARISON ON BUILDING SO PEOPLE HAVE A VISUAL.
LIKE I SAID, I THINK MAYBE RURAL KING'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AND JACKSON FURNITURE.
AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHEN THEY LOOK AT A BUILDING AND, AND JUST GIVING THEM A NUMBER.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO THIS, I THINK TALK ABOUT THIS TO SAY WHAT, WHERE ON HERE IS THE ALLOWED LEVEL? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WILL NEED TO HEAR.
WHERE ON HERE WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT REALLY WASN'T ADDRESSING THAT WAS REALLY, THIS WAS, IT'S A DEMONSTRATION.
IT WAS A DEMONSTRATION TO VALIDATE.
THAT WAS JUST US TESTING WHAT RIGHT.
TO VALIDATE THE METHODOLOGY CONTRIBUTED, GIVE SOME KIND OF A CHART THAT WILL SHOW COMPARISON OF OTHER SOUNDS TO WHAT WE PROPOSED.
LIKE THIS, LIKE THE CAR NORTH TO THE, YEAH.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S, AND THEN WHERE WOULD, WHAT ARE WE ALLOW, WHERE WOULD YOU GO? THE LINE, YEAH.
WE HAD, WE HAD A CHART SIMILAR TO THAT IN THE, OUR FIRST WORKING GROUP.
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THE SOUND AND EVERYTHING.WE'LL FIND THAT CHART TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN OUR PRESENTATION.
IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN THAT CHART, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS SAME PRINCIPLE, RIGHT? IN THE FIRST WORKING GROUP, THERE WAS A CHART THAT, THAT BROKE OUT.
YOU KNOW, HERE'S A LAWNMOWER, HERE'S THAT, HERE'S ACCEPTABLE LEVEL 59 DB, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WENT ALL THE WAY UP.
BUT THE THRESHOLD OF PAIN IS 140 DB BY THE WAY, IN CASE YOU WANNA KNOW 80, 85 DB YOU NEED, UM, IS THAT OZZY OSBORN? THAT'S GOOD.
SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE DB LEVEL OF THE, OF THE BELLS IN THE CHURCH TOWER THAT WILL KILL YOU IF YOU'RE STUCK UP THERE? UM, SUBSTANTIAL
UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD I THINK BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THE, THE IONS IN THERE, THE ABSTRACTIONS OF SOUND, GUESS PEOPLE ARE GONNA LEAVE IT.
BUT HAVING SOMETHING, IF YOU GUYS WANT A COPY OF THIS, I CAN SEND IT OUT.
I'LL SCAN AND SEND IT TO YOU GUYS.
YOU WANT, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED CHART SHOWING DEPICTING VARIOUS LIKE DOWN OR THE DECAL LEVELS OF DIFFERENT, LIKE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION.
IF YOU REALLY WANT AN EXAMPLE, YOU COULD GO TO PRINCE WILLIAM AND STAND OUTSIDE A DATA CENTER AND TAKE A READING.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE, IF YOU CUT THE AUDIO, YOU COULD HAVE IT AND THEN JUST TELL PEOPLE THAT'S WHAT IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO NOT KEEP THAT AROUND.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO EMULATE PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY.
BUT IT WILL AT LEAST ANSWER THE QUESTION IS HOW LOUD IS A DATA CENTER? AND YOU COULD SAY FOR AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN ACTUAL DATA CENTER, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE AS LOUD AS THAT ONE.
BUT THAT'S WHY THERE ARE STANDARDS HERE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA SET THAT AS A BENCHMARK.
YOU MAY NOT BE AS LOUD AS THAT ONE, BUT IF YOU HAVE SEVEN IN A SQUARE MILE FOOTAGE, THREE DB IS ALL IT TAKES TO DOUBLE POWER.
SO NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU GET ONE, EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH IT.
TWO, HEY, WHAT'S THAT NOISE? THREE.
THEN YOU'RE PRINCE WILLIAM GOING, I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF THINKING IF, IF YOU GO BEYOND THE FIRST DATA CENTER, A WHOLE NEW ANALYSIS HAS TO BE DONE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
IF THAT, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY CAUTION AGAINST USING SOMEBODY ELSE'S DATA CENTER AS AN EXAMPLE FOR US.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
OPPOSING SOMEBODY DOES A PUBLIC HEARING OR SOMEBODY ELSE.
UM, THE POINT COMES UP, OKAY, ONE'S ARE OKAY BY THE STANDARD, BUT WHAT ABOUT TWO OR THREE? THAT'S WHERE EACH, EACH SUCCESSIVE LIKE DATA CENTER WILL REQUIRE ITS OWN STUDY.
LIKE EACH, I MEAN, IF, IF THEY WANTED DO THIS DO LIKE A CAMPUS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO STILL SHOW US THAT AT THE PROPERTY LINE THAT EVERY CONDITION WE HAVE ON HERE IS MET OF EACH ONE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT IF YOU HAD THREE IN A ROW, EACH ONE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, CHARLES.
EACH ONE COULD MEET THE STANDARD, BUT THE CUMULATIVE NO, NO.
IF YOU BUILD THE, AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO IF YOU BUILD THE FIR YOU BUILD THE FIRST ONE AND, AND THEN EVERYTHING'S RUNNING ALONG, YOU GO TO BUILD A SECOND ONE.
NOW A WHOLE NEW ANALYSIS HAS TO BE DONE.
AND THOSE, AND PART OF THAT ANALYSIS WILL HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIVE HARMONICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOUND.
UH, AND, BUT IT STILL, AS SHE SAID AT THE PROPERTY LINE IS THE ULTIMATE.
SO IN THAT SECOND ANALYSIS, ALL THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO THEY MAY HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL STEPS FOR EACH, LIKE EXTRA DATA CENTER THEY ADD.
OUR REQUIREMENT IS THAT AT THE PROPERTY LINE, WE DON'T HEAR IT, FEEL IT, WHATEVER.
SO AT THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE OTHER DATA CENTER OR THE PROPERTY LINE? NO PROPERTY LINE.
PROPERTY LINE WITH THE OTHER DATA CENTER.
SO ADD, SO AS A, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BIGGEST FEAR IS ADDING ONE, THEN BUILDING ANOTHER AND YOU DO INDIVIDUAL ANALYSIS.
BUT THEY HAVE TO, WELL, YOUR CODE IS GONNA BE WRITTEN IS THEY HAVE TO COMBINE UNIT ONE AND UNIT TWO WITH UNIT THREE.
AND THAT GOES PAST THE THRESHOLD.
IT'S ACTUALLY OFFSITE IMPACTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING OFFITE IMPACTS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU START GETTING, IF IT'S ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS AND HOW REGULATING SCIENCE WITHIN THE CAMPUS, THAT GETS INTO OSHA IN THOSE REGARDS.
THAT ISN'T SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
BUT THAT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT, THAT MAY BE WORTH BRINGING OUT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT OUR CODE, IT GONNA BE LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO USE THE WORD ACCUMULATIVE, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS AS EACH ONE'S ADDED TO IT.
MAYBE WE'LL PRACTICE OUR ORIENTATION ON HERE.
AND SAD PART IS, IS EVERY FREQUENCY HE HIT ON HIS LAPTOP.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T GO TO CASINOS.
I'M SORRY I DON'T GO TO THE CASINO.
ANYTHING ELSE GUYS? THE OFFICIAL PRESENTATION OF THE SOUND METER FOR PLANNING AND ZONING
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IS THAT A GIFT? THAT'S A GIFT.