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[Planning and Zoning Work Session on July 2, 2025.]
UH, JULY 2ND, PLANNING COMMISSION, WORKING GROUP MEETING.AND WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE AND ALSO JUDGE COMMISSIONER FEDERICO? NOT HERE YET.
WELL, WE HAVE JUST THREE ITEMS ON HERE TONIGHT.
START WITH OUR, UM, THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, UH, SPECIAL DESIGNATED HOUSING OUTREACH, AND HOPEFULLY THE FINAL STEP IN THAT.
MOVING ON TO THE, UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS ANOTHER ROUND OF DEFINITIONS, WHICH I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE JUST SO EXCITED TO GET STUFF BACK INTO.
SO GUESS WE'LL START WITH, UH, JOHN, YOU GUYS TAKE THAT SURE.
UH, IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET OR IN THE, UH, WORK SESSION PACKET.
SO FIRST ITEM IS 25 0 0 2 2 1 8.
THAT'S A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
YOU REMEMBER BACK, I THINK IT WAS IN APRIL, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
UH, SO WE ARE ADDING, THEY REQUESTED ADD, UH, LANGUAGE TO BE ADDED TO THAT SECTION OF TOWN CODE.
UH, WITH THAT, THEY REVIEWED THIS INFORMATION IN EFFORT TO FURTHER MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF FRONT RULES HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE ARE WRITING TO FORMALLY REQUEST THE ZONING TAX AMENDMENT TO LIMIT ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE DISTRICT TO ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, SO OUR CONSIDERATION AND TASK WAS THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME UNITS TO BE CONVERTED INTO MORE, ONE MORE THAN ONE DWELLING UNIT.
UH, PREVENT VACANT LOTS IN HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM BEING DEVELOPED IN ANYTHING IN, INTO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
AND CHANGES SEEM TO IMPACT THE THREE AREAS IN THE ZONING TEXTS.
THE BAR'S RESPONSIBILITY OR AUTHORITY IN THE R THREE USES.
SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT FOR THE BAR, UH, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FRONT RULES.
HISTORIC DISTRICT SHALL BE LIMITED TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
MULTI-FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THIS DISTRICT.
AND THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, THERE IS ASKING FOR ANY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THE FRONT.
HISTORIC DISTRICT SHALL BE PRESERVED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THE CONVERSION OF ANY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS INTO A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR ANY OTHER NON-RESIDENT USE SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
UH, SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE LANGUAGE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OUT OF 1 75, 82, UH, WE WILL BE CHANGING, UH, WHICH WAS OUTLINED IN RED FOR YOU.
UH, UNDER B HERE, THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO WE ARE ADDING THE LANGUAGE THERE.
AND SO IT READS, CURRENTLY THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, REVIEW SHALL HAVE THE POWER AND AUTHORITY FOR ISSUING DENYING CERTIFICATE, APPROPRIATENESS FOR CONSTRUCTION RECONSTRUCTION, SUBSTANTIAL AL INTERIOR EXTERIOR ALTERATION.
SO WE'RE ADDING PROTECTING SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE, LIMITING DEVELOPMENT OF UNDEVELOPED, UNDEVELOPED LOTS TO SINGLE FAMILY USE.
SO THAT OUTLINED IN RED IS THE LANGUAGE WE'RE ADDING TO B UNDER DUTIES, POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO AFTER B, WE GO DOWN AND WE ADDED LANGUAGE HERE AFTER NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, NINE WILL, UH, STATE NOW TO PRESERVE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITHIN THE HISTORIC FRONT ROWS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
UH, 10, UH, WHICH OUTLINED HERE IS TO PREVENT THE CONVERSION OF ANY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING INTO MULTIFAMILY DWELLING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, OR ANY OTHER NON-RESIDENTIAL USE.
UH, 12 WOULD BE TO PREVENT THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN A RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THIS DISTRICT.
13 WOULD BE TO ENSURE NON DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BE DEVELOPED ONLY AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS.
THEN WE WOULD RENUMBER 14 OR MAKE A 14 AND A 15.
SO THAT'S THE HEART OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THAT PORTION AND THE DUTIES OF THE BAR AND THE OUTLINE THERE.
SO IF WE SKIP AHEAD TO OTHER AREAS THAT THE CODE WILL CHANGE SINCE WE GAVE YOU THE ENTIRE CODE,
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GO THROUGH THOSE, YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYTHING OUT.SO THE GUIDELINES REMAIN THE SAME DOWN ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE END.
UH, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THAT'S THE AREA THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT, UH, IN THE R THREE DISTRICT.
SO UNDER RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, BY, RIGHT, WE WOULD ADD THE TEXT THERE.
IN RED DUPLEXES, TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND TOWN HOMES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE TOWN'S FRONT RULES.
HISTORIC DISTRICT, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE CONVERTED INTO A TWO-FAMILY DWELLING OR DUPLEX.
SO THAT IS THE, UH, CHANGES THAT'LL BE MADE PRIMARILY THAT WOULD AFFECT THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, WE TALKED THAT OVER WITH THE BAR AT THEIR MEETING.
THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY SUGGESTED OR PUT FORTH TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE HAD A WORK SESSION ON THAT.
THEN WE EXCHANGED, UH, THROUGH, UH, EMAIL, I GUESS, UH, FOR THEM TO REVIEW THAT.
AND THEY DID RESPOND WITH, AND WE MADE THOSE CHANGES BASED ON THAT LANGUAGE.
UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON PART OF THIS? GO AHEAD.
UM, SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS A WHILE AGO, I KNOW WE WERE ALSO ADDRESSING THAT THE, THE HOUSE THAT HAD BURNED DOWN AND THEY WERE GONNA REBUILD MM-HMM
AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT THEY WANTED TO REBUILD IT AS A MULTIFAMILY.
AND THEY WERE SAYING, AS LONG AS IT LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT'S OKAY.
IS THAT, HAS THAT CHANGED? UH, THAT ONE THERE WOULD ALLOW, UH, MEMORY SURGEON MIGHT, THAT WAS A DUPLEX.
WELL, THEY, IT WAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
BUT UNDER, UH, OUR CURRENT CODE THAT DOES ALLOW THAT TO, TO BUILT BACK AS A DUPLEX ON THAT LOT, THAT'S BY RIGHT.
SO WHEN THEY CAME WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THAT STRUCTURE TO DO A DUPLEX, THEY HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT SAID THEY, THEY PREFERRED THE DUPLEX TO LOOK LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE A DUPLEX, TWO SEPARATE LOTS.
SO THE BUILDER DID SUBMIT PLANS, UH, REARRANGING THE FRONT, AND, UH, SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK QUITE LIKE A DUPLEX IF YOU PER SAY, UH, REARRANGING THE PORCH AND THE WAY YOU ENTER INTO THE BUILDING TO GIVE IT MORE OF A CURB APPEAL OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO THEY APPROVED THAT, AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
WE HAD THESE NICE HISTORIC HOUSES IN THE DISTRICT.
UH, THAT ONE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONE THERE IN THAT LOT, UH, YOU KNOW, BURNED DOWN AND IT CAME BACK TO BUILD NEW.
SO A DUPLEX AND THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS THAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO A, A, A DUPLEX.
BUT NOW IF THIS IS CHANGED HERE, THEN ONLY A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING CAN BE PUT ON THAT LOT.
OR ANY OTHER ONE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO, SO THIS ALL APPLIES, LIKE, IF SOMETHING BURNS DOWN NEW CON THAT'S CONSIDERED NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEN MM-HMM
SO IT WOULD BE CAPTURED UNDER THAT? YES.
AND THEN WHAT WE FOUND OUT IN YEARS PAST, WE HAD SOME OF THESE LARGER HISTORIC HOMES, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, THEY WERE CONVERTED TO, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD APARTMENTS, BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE REFERRED TO 'EM.
THEY WERE CONVERTED INTO MORE THAN ONE DWELLING UNIT.
UH, SO THEY KIND OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THEY KIND OF GUTTED THE INTERIOR AND CONVERTED THE INTERIOR TO APARTMENTS OR DWELLING UNITS OF MORE THAN ONE.
UM, SO IT KIND OF JEOPARDIZED, THEY FELT THE, THE INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OF SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS.
SO PART OF THIS LANGUAGE IS THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONVERT THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FROM ONE DWELLING UNIT, WHAT WE REFER TO AS ONE DWELLING UNIT TO MORTON MORE THAN THE ONE YES.
THEY COULD HAD WE REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THIS IN NO WAY AFFECTS ANYBODY WHO'S CURRENTLY THERE.
SO THE, THESE GOING FORWARD, THIS WOULD BE GOING FORWARD.
LINE IN THE SAND GOING FORWARD, LINE IN THE SAND GOING FORWARD.
AND, AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT, LIKE, I FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE ROAD, BUT THERE'S LIKE, I GUESS TOWNHOUSES LIKE A ROW OF MM-HMM
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OR DEVELOP THAT, WOULD ANY OF THIS AFFECT THEIR, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.USUALLY THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED, THOSE TOWNHOUSES WERE BUILT PRIOR TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BEING, UH, ENACTED BY THE TOWN.
SO THOSE WERE BUILT PRIOR TO IT.
THEN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT CAME IN, UH, WITH THE, THE BOUNDARY AND EVERYTHING IN THOSE AREAS.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME THAT WERE BUILT PRIOR TO THE SORT DISTRICT BEING DESIGNATED AS SUCH.
UH, I MEAN, IF YOU COULD IN MARCH, I'M ASSUMING THE DU WEST OR TOWN HOMES, UH, IF IT WOULD BE PERMITTED, BUT YOU COULDN'T ADD ANOTHER DWELLING UNIT TO IT.
WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS, THERE IS A THING THAT UNFORTUNATELY IN THE PAST WE HAD SOME STREETS THAT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT THE HOMES DO NOT LOOK HISTORIC.
ASPHALT SHINGLES, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU CAN'T PUSH WATER BACK UP HILL, SO TO SPEAK.
BUT IT'LL BE JUST EXCLUSIVELY SINGLE FAMILY TOILETS ON, ON VACANT LOTS.
THAT'S IN THIS DISTRICT, UH, EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SHALL REMAIN THAT WAY, AND NO CONVERSION TO CHOPPING 'EM UP OR ADDING MORE THAN ONE DWELLING UNIT TO IT.
THIS DOES NOTHING TO PRECLUDE THEM MAINTAINING, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY CHOPPED UP, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN IT.
SO IT'S JUST LIKE, LIKE IN THE INSTANCE, LIKE ON BLUE RIDGE, THERE'S A FIRE WHERE THE, UM, APARTMENT OR PROBLEMS ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THAT FIRE WAS, THERE WAS FIRE BACKING IN EIGHTIES OR SOMETHING, AND THEN THOSE WILL GO.
SO IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPENED AND YEAH.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE OLD HOUSES THAT ALREADY HAVE A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS AND NOW YEAH.
SO WE HAVE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LETTING THEM CONTINUE.
ESSENTIALLY BEING NONCONFORMING RIGHT.
YOU, THEY WERE PERMITTED AT ONE TIME.
I MEAN, IN THE ALTERNATIVE TO THIS SPECIAL, DO WE WANNA MAKE THIS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GET PAST THIS OR THAT MAKES SENSE.
YEAH, THAT'S THE QUESTION OF THIS.
IF YOU GUYS FEEL THIS IS READY TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING, OR DO YOU NEED, DO YOU HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON IT? AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BAR COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I'M JUST, I'M THINKING TWO OF 'EM AT LEAST WILL BE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
JUDGE, I THINK AS WE WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE PERMITS AND EVERYTHING, SOMETIMES WE SEE SOME FLAWS IN THE TOWN CODE, UH, HOW WE PICK THIS UP.
AND THEY WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE, UH, I THINK MAYBE THAT WITH THE CURRENT BAR, THAT WAS THE FIRST NEW CONSTRUCTION THEY WAS ABLE, THAT BEEN APPLIED FOR, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO, UH, KIND OF SHED SOME LIGHT ON SOME AREAS THAT THEY BELIEVE LAW LACKING IN THE CURRENT CODE.
UH, NOW WE GO TO TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE SPECIAL DESIGNATED SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE HOUSING.
DO YOU WANNA HEAD, UH, TALK ABOUT THIS? YEAH, I WILL.
WE'LL DO QUICK CAN, HOW DO WE GET THROUGH THE CHARTS ON THIS? UH, YOU WANT TO CLICK? YOU WANT TO CLICK? DO YOU WANT, UH, WELL, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT.
WHY, WHY DON'T YOU CLICK AND I'LL, I'LL TALK.
WE'LL GO, JUST GO TO THE SECOND CHART.
I THINK IT HAS AS A TEXT FIRST WE JUST, OKAY.
YOU WANNA GO TO THE CHART? GO TO THE CHART THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS THE OUTBREAK THAT I HAD PROMISED YOU GUYS AND SENT YOU A COPY OF THAT, OR, AND THAT WAS JUST THE LAST STEP SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD TO GET YOU GUYS PERMISSION TO GO TO THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAD THE DE DEFINITIONS.
UH, SO THIS EFFORT WAS DRIVEN BY THE, THE RECENT REQUEST FOR THE, UM, NARROW ZONING CHANGE FOR A GROUP HOME IN RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND THAT STARTED THAT WHOLE SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS.
UM, I WON'T GO ON THE MERITS OF THAT DECISION OR NOT, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON.
BUT I BROUGHT THAT BROADER REVIEW OF SPECIALIZED SUPPORT FACILITIES AND RESIDENTIAL USE FOR DISABLED AND OTHER DISADVANTAGE GROUPS, WAS POSSIBLY IN ORDER TO LOOK AT, UM, I WANNA SAY, UH, THAT SOME OF
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THE CATEGORIES, INDIVIDUALS IN NEED SUPPORT ARE BETTER SUITED TO RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS.AND RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS CAN OFFER STRUCTURED SUPPORT, OFTEN ESSENTIAL FOR THEIR WELLBEING AND DEVELOPMENTAL RECOVERY.
RESIDENT TO PROGRAMS PROVIDE A BRIDGE TO INDEPENDENT LIVING OFFERING STABILITY IN HELPING RESIDENTS BUILD THE SKILLS AND CONFIDENCE NEEDED TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY AND OFTEN LEARN TO LIVE ON THEIR OWN.
SO IF I GO LIKE THE SPECIALIZED SUPPORT OF HOUSING FOR THAT SANCTUARY AND TARGETED SUPPORT TO SURVIVORS IN WAYS THAT ARE PROVEN BENEFICIAL TO THE GENERAL COMMUNITY, WELL BEYOND JUST HAVING THE DOORS AND THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTIVE IS THE PREMISE TO ALLOW SPECIALIZED HOUSING, UH, IN, IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, ADDRESSING THE NEED WITH THE CURRENT CODE CAUSING ZONING CONFLICTS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE RAN INTO THAT ONE THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH AND CONTRADICTIONS WITH UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
UH, THESE PRO PROPOSED CHANGES ARE ENABLERS AND NOT SOLUTIONS UNTO THEMSELVES.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOLVE WORLD FEES.
SO THE BASIS OF THIS STUDY, UH, HAVE ON, ON THIS IS, UM, IT WAS A VERY BIG PROBLEM THAT WOULD NEED SUPPORT.
AGAIN, WE CAN'T SOLVE IT ALL, AND WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THIS, THE BIGGEST THING WITH GETTING ARMS AROUND WHAT WE COULD DO IN THE PROBLEM ITSELF, UH, TO FOCUS ON THE NEEDS OF THE GROUPS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE SMALLER SCALE SUPPORT IN THE RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
AND IN THE COURSE OF STUDY, SEVERAL THINGS WERE ACCOMPLISHED IN ORDER TO REDUCE THIS REPORT AND SUGGESTED TEXT CHANGES TO ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER ONE, A BROAD SWIPE INVESTIGATION WAS CONDUCTED LOOKING AT WHAT GROUPS WOULD OR WOULD NOT BENEFIT TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
AND THERE WAS DOWN SELECTED CATEGORIES THAT WOULD COVER THE SELECT GROUPS AND STILL REMAIN FLEXIBLE, WHICH WOULD YOU SEE WITH THE AT RISK CHILDREN, AUTISM AND SO ON.
AND THOSE SUB BULLETS GENERATED A REPORT ON EACH OF THE GROUPS, WHICH I DISTRIBUTED TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, MONTH, MONTHS BACK THERE.
AS YOU COULD SEE THAT THESE REPORTS WERE SHARED WITH PLANNING, UM, COMMISSION OF COURSE, AND PLANNING ZONING.
AND WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS WITH SOME OF THE IMPACTED INDIVIDUALS, ONE OF WHICH WE HAD COME TALK TO US AT THE GROUP HERE.
THERE WAS TWO MORE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BE PUBLIC, SO I, I RESPECTED THAT PRIVACY AND, UM, LET'S SEE.
CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH APPROPRIATE SUPPORT AGENCIES.
AND AGAIN, REPORTS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE WAS GENERATED AND SENT OUT.
AND I THANK EACH OF, UH, UM, HARVEST MISSION OUTREACH AND THE PROJECTS, PHOENIX AND WESTERN VIRGINIA CONTINUUM OF CARE, AND VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN SERVICES FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK WITH US.
AND WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING, AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF PLANNING THE ZONING WAS ON EACH OF THOSE INTERVIEWS.
UH, LARGER GROUP HOMES IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED HERE, 'CAUSE EXISTING CODE COVERS THOSE IN THE MORE COMMERCIAL AREAS.
THIS ONE, I'M JUST GONNA READ THE CHART.
UM, THE, THE GO ALONG WITH IT.
UH, SPECIAL PURPOSE HOUSING ADDRESSES PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY NEEDS, ALLOWING CRISIS HOUSING IN MORE ZONES, ENABLES A THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE OR SPECIAL NEEDS GROUPS, AND PROVIDE STABILIZATION, RE REDUCING STRAIN WITH FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES, AND SHELTERS.
AND, UM, BY, BY SPREADING THIS OUT, IT JUST, INSTEAD OF THE SEPARATION INTO JUST COMMERCIAL AREAS FOR SMALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE, ONE THING WE'RE TAKING A COMMERCIAL SPACE UNNECESSARILY FOR THINGS THAT ISN'T OPTIMIZED FROM BEING OUT THERE.
SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND LIFE'S TRANSITIONS, AND, UM, PROVIDE SHELTER FOR VICTIMS. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH SAFE OPTIONS IN RESIDENTIAL SETTING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR REINTEGRATION RECOVERY AND DIGNITY WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
NOW, I, THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES.
I CAN PAUSE FOR A MINUTE HERE, BUT YOU JUST WANT TO READ THIS.
UH, I KNOW THIS IS NOTHING NEW PER SE, BUT I'LL STAY HERE FOR A MINUTE.
JUST TELL ME WHEN YOU'RE READY TO GO TO THE NEXT CHART.
I READ THESE EARLIER TODAY, SO, YEAH.
AND THE IDEA WITH THESE GROUPS, THIS IS, UM, LIKE WE SAY, SHELTER FOR ASK AT RISK CHILDREN, JUST TO PICK ONE THAT'S PRETTY BROAD CATEGORY, YOU CAN FIT QUITE A BIT INTO THAT FOR WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR SHELTER, RATHER THAN TRY TO JUST PICK WHAT ONE PARTICULAR TYPE OF AT RISK JOB.
THE NEXT ONE, WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING BEFORE, WHERE ORIGINALLY WE WERE DRESSING THESE ALMOST INDIVIDUALLY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT RULES FOR EACH ONE.
AND I THINK IT WAS YOU THAT SUGGESTED THAT THEY REALLY SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALL IN ONE.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS CREATED.
DID IT MAKE SENSE TO PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER? YOU KNOW, AND SO ONE SIDE IS A COMMONALITY OF THOSE THINGS THEY SHARE IN THE TOP WAS THE GROUPS THEMSELVES.
AND REALLY ALMOST IN ALL CASES, OVERLAP WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS.
AND I'LL MENTION ONE, LIKE, UM, THAT THE, UH, WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO FEDERAL AND STATE LAW, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS.
THEY HAVE TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
LIKE, UM, UH, CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES ARE LIMITED TO EIGHT AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SUPERVISION AS OTHER.
BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, UH, SHELTERS FOR, UM, UH,
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UH, DOMESTIC ABUSE VICTIMS, THAT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF REQUIREMENT ON THEM.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST TO PUT TOGETHER THE, DID IT MAKE SENSE TO GROUP THEM ALL TOGETHER? AND IT DID.
NOW WE GET INTO THE PRO PROPOSED, UM, TEXT CHANGES.
AND PART OF ALL THESE, AND THIS IN THE NEXT CHART IS WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS.
IT NEEDS TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT CAN'T JUST DRIVE BY AND SAY THERE, OH, THERE'S A SHELTER THERE OR, OR THERE'S THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, BE APPROPRIATE AND VALID FOR A SMALL SCALE, UH, SETTING.
SO AGAIN, THE OTHER THING IS, IS ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE OF VARIABILITY.
AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD ACCEPTABLE.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT CHART, PLEASE.
AND ALL THESE CHANGES, AND IT HAS TO GO ON, THESE SHELTERS WILL BE IN THE BUY RIGHT IN THE DISTRICT.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S AN R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
IT STILL HAS TO COMPLY WITH R ONE RULES.
SO THEY NEED TO FIT INTO THAT, THAT SCHEDULE.
SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE STICKING BIG SIGNS OUT FRONT, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING HOUSING FOR THIS.
AND AGAIN, MAINTAIN THE LOOK AND FEEL.
AND IF SOMEONE'S NEW, IF IT IS NEWLY CONSTRUCTED, THE SAME RULES APPLY.
IT HAS TO FIT WITHIN, WHAT IS IT? 30% I THINK HAS TO LOOK LIKE 30% OF THE OTHER FIXTURES.
THIS IS THE BULK OF IT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GIVE THE TOOLS.
BEFORE, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT EARLIER ONE, WE RAN INTO THE PROBLEM.
THEY, THEY APPROVED A, UM, GROUP HOME, BUT IT FITS IN GROUP HOME SETTINGS AND RULES, WHICH ARE VERY GENERALIZED.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GROUP HOME AND IT'S, IT, IT'S TOO LOOSE.
WHAT THIS DOES IS GIVES THE TOOLS TO THE, UM, THE, UM, TOWN COUNCIL FOR WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND WHAT THEY SEEM TO HAVE TO COMPLY AND WHAT REGULATIONS, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ENFORCE STATE LAW, BUT WE CAN REQUIRE THEM THAT THEY ABIDE BY STATE LAW, BUT WE'RE NOT THE ENFORCERS.
AND SO THAT'S, IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORDS.
UH, SO THE ONLY, UH, QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW NUMBER FOUR RELATES TO, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, HOMES OR AT RISK CHILDREN, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT RISK IS, IF HAVING IT, YOU KNOW, A PUBLICIZED DOCUMENT OF ALL OF THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO A BUILDING OR TO THAT LAND, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE THINK MIGHT BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THEN LIVING THERE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE BURIED IN A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AND NO ONE'S BOTHERED TO CHECK THOSE ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TO TELL US IT DOESN'T APPLY OR WE, WE PREFER NOT TO TELL YOU BECAUSE, AND WITH VALID REASON, IT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT.
OH, SO IT SHOULD INCLUDE, SHOULD INCLUDE YES.
AS OPPOSED TO MUST, MUST INCLUDE.
BECAUSE THERE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE GROUPING ALL THESE TOGETHER AND ALL THE RULES WON'T APPLY TO ALL EVERY, BUT WE SHOULD CONSIDER EACH OF THE RULES ON ALL OF 'EM TO SEE IF THEY DO APPLY.
AND THIS MORE OF THE TEXT CHANGES.
THE APPLICANT SUBMIT A, A PLOT PLAT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CHARTS I RAN OUTTA THE ROOM ON THE PREVIOUS CHART.
'CAUSE IT'S GETTING TOO SMALL.
BUT
UH, BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE, YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THE SUPERVISION, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THEIR, THEIR FIRE SAFETY, WHAT THEY INTEND ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND THEN THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL CAN WORK WITH TO MAKE A DECISION.
ONE MORE, UH, THIS CHART, THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO MAKE THE CHANGE.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT, I KIND OF DID A DRAFT RUN TO THIS WITH SOME FOLKS AND WHAT, WHAT IT CAME BACK, WE ENDED UP IN A, A DISCUSSION, A CIRCULAR DISCUSSION ON R ONE A AND P AND D.
'CAUSE P AND D IS, WE DON'T HAVE ONE TO COMPARE IT TO FOR ONE THING.
AND IT'S CONCEIVABLE, BUT WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT A DEVELOPER'S GONNA COME IN AND BUILD ONE OF THESE IN A PLAN COMMUNITY RIGHT OFF THE BAT? 'CAUSE IT'S NOT PROFITABLE.
AND IF R ONE A WITH THE SMALLER LOTS AND SO ON, IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
SO, ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE POSSIBLE, IT'S JUST, IT WASTES TIME IN CIRCULAR DISCUSSIONS, I'D LIKE TO JUST DELETE THESE TWO.
BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE THEM AT ALL.
ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'D ANTICIPATE,
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YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE.IT'S A VERY, IT'S A VERY REAL WHOLE THING.
AND IT ALL ENDED UP WITH, UM, TOO MUCH TIME DISCUSSING NOTHING
AND SO I'M ASKING FOR THOSE TWO CHANGES WHERE IT'LL JUST BE TWO LINES OF THE TEXT DELETED.
IF GET YOUR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD A PUBLIC HEARING, I'M GOOD FOR THAT AS WELL.
ALAN, DID WE PUT ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT THE PETS? BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE MET WITH THEM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS IS THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE
THEY SAID THAT WOMEN WON'T LEAVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA LEAVE THEIR ANIMALS.
SHELTERS HAVE NO PROVISIONS FOR, FOR ANIMALS.
AGAIN, FOR, FOR ALL THOSE THINGS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THEY WOULD HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IF THEY HAVE A FENCE YARD WITH PETS AND FACILITIES.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD TO, IF IT WAS, BUT IT'S, IF IT'S A, UM, A DOMESTIC ABUSE SHELTER, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE PETS OR YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE PLAYGROUND.
IT JUST, JUST DEPENDS WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF YOU DID THAT CAME TO THE MEETING.
AND, AND WHAT I'LL DO IS IF, IF THIS IS APPROVED, I, I'LL SEND OUT A COPY OF THESE CHARTS WITHOUT THE LAST ONE TO ALL THE FOLKS THAT, UM, WE'RE KIND ENOUGH TO, UM, INTERVIEW WITH US SO THEY KNOW IT GOES AND SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME TO THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
AND I'LL SEND YOU, YOU HAVE IT, IF YOU SEND YOU ANOTHER COPY, YOU WANNA SEND IT TO YOUR SISTER-IN-LAW.
THIS, THIS, THIS POWERPOINT WAS REALLY NICE.
NEXT MONTH WILL BE THE A DU STUFF.
NOW WOULD YOU LIKE, I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT THIS POWERPOINT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? I WOULD WANT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU GUYS A BRIEF OF ME FROM HERE.
WHAT, AT WHAT POINT DO I SAY TAG YOU IN
UM, I MEAN, YOU HAVE THESE IN YOUR PACKET, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ADVERTISED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO VIEW.
UH, BUT WE CAN INCLUDE ALL THESE SLIDES, UH, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, NOW WHETHER WE NEED TO READ THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM OR NOT.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE PACKET YOU REVIEWED IT, IT'LL BE IN THE, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING THING, ALSO BE POSTED ONLINE.
BUT WE'LL INCLUDE IT, UH, IN CASE SOMEONE DOES HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHETHER WE CAN ADVANCE THE SLIDES OR, UH, BACK 'EM UP OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, HOW THAT WOULD PERTAIN.
I, I'LL MAKE THOSE TWO SMALL CHANGES IN THERE.
THEN I'LL SEND YOU AND THEN THAT BECOMES YOUR CONFIGURATION CONTROL COPY.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO.
YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT ON THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE ONE CHART MAY NEED TO LAST CHART.
I'LL JUST DELETE, UH, YEAH, THAT ONE I'LL JUST DELETE.
WE'LL HAVE TO THINK OF ONE ON THE ONE CHART.
WE'LL MAY HAVE TO OH, BREAK IT INTO TWO.
YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE SMALL, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC TO READ THE MAIN.
BUT WE COULD, WE COULD LEAVE IT THERE.
I MEAN IT'S IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.
YOU CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER ON, I CAN MAKE IT BIGGER ON DISPLAY.
IT JUST WILL TAKE WHAT YOU'LL DO.
UM, I'LL MAKE THE TOP SMALLER AND MAKE THE CHART BIGGER SO IT'S EASY TO RE YEAH.
THAT'S EASY TO DO, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO TWEAK A FEW THINGS OF THE, OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT OKAY.
HAVE A FORMATTED SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDER UHAND THOSE CHANGES THERE.
I MEAN, VERY CLEARLY, LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS AND THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WHAT WE AND THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THEN FOR THESE PLACES IS FANTASTIC.
AND THEN ALLOWING THEM, YOU KNOW, MORE BROADLY, UH, BUT HAVING THAT CONTROL I THINK IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THE HELP AND SUPPORT IN GOING THROUGH THIS.
AND WE WILL, THERE WILL BE OPPOSITION OF COURSE.
SO WHEN THOSE STATUSES CHANGE, THEY'RE NO LONGER ON THE TAX ROLL.
SO THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT BRINGING IN ANY INCOME YEAH.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS.
SO WHEN WE PERMIT THESE IN ALL THESE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WE'RE TAKING AWAY COMMERCIAL REVENUE FOR THESE USES.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
THAT WE HAVE CONSIDER SAYING THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF ALLOWING THEM IN AN A BENEFIT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ALSO I THINK, A POSITIVE THING TO PUT THESE MORE IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
IS BECAUSE THEN WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM OUT OF COMMERCIAL USE MM-HMM
AND USING A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT LIMITED
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IN TOWN.IRONICALLY, THAT WASN'T PART OF THE THINKING GOING INTO THIS.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF IT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS.
THIS WAS A TON OF INFORMATION AND LEARNING PROCESS TOO.
'CAUSE THERE WERE FACTORS I NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED UNTIL WE STARTED TALKING TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE.
AND THEN WITH WHAT LITTLE INPUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SO FAR GOTTEN FROM LIKE COUNCIL AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT'S LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE OR STOP AND THINK THAT YEAH, WE ARE TAKING COMMERCIAL REVENUE AWAY.
BUT IT ISN'T LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE 70 THESE OPEN IN TOWN.
SO THIS IS JUST, BUT I THINK THE PERCEPTION IS THAT OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS, WHEN WE'VE TAKEN LIKE FOUR OF THESE TO COUNTS IN THE LAST YEAR, THEY'RE LIKE, WAIT, SOMETHING'S HAPPENING HERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER END OF IT IS WHAT'S GOING ON THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE AND THAT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM FOR THEM TO HELP SOLVE.
SO THIS IS JUST THE LAND YOU SEND
SO YOU DID HAVE AN APPLICATION GOING ON THAT TOPIC.
WE DID HAVE AN APPLICATION WITHDRAWING, UH, THAT, THAT YOU, UH, AUTHORIZED FOR ADVERTISING OF WHEN WE MET IN YEAH.
MAY OR I'M SORRY, IN JUNE FOR THE WORK SESSION TONIGHT.
BUT THEY WITHDREW THAT APPLICATION.
IS IT COMING BACK LATER OR IS IT, IS IT DEAD OR IS IT THEY WITHDREW THE APPLICATION.
SO NOW THE ITEMS HERE, THAT'S WHY THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION, UH, FOR THAT.
SO IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE TONIGHT.
SO JUST IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ONE THAT YOU, THAT WAS A STAN SNEED BUILDING, RIGHT? YES.
SO THAT WAS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING KIND OF.
THEY WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION FOR THAT.
MAYBE THEY SAW THIS COMING AND SAID THIS IS BETTER.
LAUREN, WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THE DEFINITIONS OR WHAT ARE YOU? UH, YEAH, SO IF WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EVEN GET TO THEM ON THERE.
UM, YEAH, SO I'VE ADDED IN A FEW.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN I PUT THEM ON THIS SPREADSHEET, I'M STILL NOT ADEPT WITH THIS SPREADSHEET.
I COULDN'T GET IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
BUT WHAT I DID WAS I, WE DEFINED EVENT CENTER.
UM, UH, SO EVENT CENTER IS A DEDICATED VENUE AND FACILITY DESIGN AND HOST WIDE RANGE OF GATHERINGS, FUNCTIONS OR EVENTS SUCH AS WEDDINGS, CONFERENCES, PARTIES, BANQUETS, CORPORATE MEETINGS, AND MORE ADDED DORMITORY IN WHICH WAS ONE OF OUR NOTES.
UM, A BUILDING USED AS GROUP LIVING QUARTERS FOR A STUDENT BODY OR RELIGIOUS ORDER AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO A COLLEGE, UNIVERSITY BOARDING SCHOOL CONTENT MONASTERY OR SIMILAR INSTITUTIONAL USE.
UM, AND THEN I TALKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS AND USES THAT WE POTENTIALLY WANNA SEE AT LEAST TO HELP WITH TOURISM.
'CAUSE I KNOW TOURISM'S BEEN KIND OF A BIG DISCUSSION LATELY.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS GET PEOPLE HERE, GET THEM TO STAY A DAY OR TWO AND THEN LEAVE.
UM, AND WHAT WE NOTICED IS THAT OUR COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL FACILITY, UM, THE DEFINITION WAS A LITTLE LACKING.
SO WHAT WE DID, IF I CAN JUST ADD SOME ADDITIONAL USES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.
SO INITIALLY THE DEFINITION READ A SPORTS OR ACTIVITY FACILITY, WHICH IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR FEE THESE SHALL INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING.
BOWLING ALLEY, ARCADE, SWIMMING HARD AND SOFT SPORTS, UM, HEALTH SPOTS, GYMNASIUM, PHYSICAL FITNESS CENTER, DANCE STUDIOS OR SIMILAR USES.
UM, AND THEN, AND THE ODD THING ABOUT THESE IS THAT WE ONLY PERMIT THEM IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICTS, WHICH THAT'S STRANGE AND WE NEED TO FIX THAT.
UM, BUT THEN WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS ADDING IN JUST SPECIFICITIES THE INDOOR OUTDOOR
THAT WAY YOU CAN JUST KIND OF OPEN UP THAT DEFINITION A LITTLE BROADER TO THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO VISITING SOMEWHERE.
UM, I APOLOGIZE, THOSE DID NOT, IT ADDED INTO YOUR, UM, YOU HAVE THE OTHER DEFINITIONS THAT YOU ADDED.
WHICH ONE? OH, THAT I CHANGE? YEAH.
NO, IT WAS JUST THE FIVE GOING BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL BECAUSE IT WAS GOT AHEAD FOR THE, UM, STUFF THAT WE'RE WORKING ON HERE.
AND SINCE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH PARALLEL,
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ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS THIS WAS GONNA BEAT THAT, BUT IT DIDN'T.SO WE'LL PULL THOSE BACK UNTIL THIS, ASSUMING IT GETS THROUGH.
THEN ADDING THAT, THERE'S JUST FIVE OF THOSE THAT WERE OVERLAPPING IN THAT SPREADSHEET I SENT OUT.
AND EVERYONE GOT THAT IT WAS LISTED BECAUSE WHAT WAS SENT OUT HAVE THE DEFINITIONS AND THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THE LAST WORK AT THE LAST WORKING GROUP.
SO WHAT YOU GUYS HAD THIS WEEKEND, MINUS THOSE TWO OR THREE CHANGES THAT I JUST READ IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
UM, SO IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THESE DEFINITIONS, WHAT WE CAN DO IS LIKE THE NEXT STEP IS TAKING OUR USE CHART, WHICH SOMEONE'S SO KIND TO MAKE FOR US.
UM, AND I THINK THERESA'S BEEN HELPING ME WITH THIS, LINING UP THE USES OF THAT DON'T NECESSARILY LINE UP WITH OUR DEFINITION, MAKING SURE THEY MATCH.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO YOU WITH THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO ADD.
AND THEN START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE WORKING IN THE ZONES? MM-HMM
AND THEN ALSO CREATING THIS INSTITUTIONAL ZONE.
SO IN OUR COMFORT OF PLAN, WE HAVE IT, WE PUT IT IN AS A FUTURE LAND USE.
THERE BE AN INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT, BUT WE NEED TO WRITE, SO A STATEMENT OF INTENT.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR SCHOOLS, DO YOU INCLUDE RELIGIOUS TYPE FACILITIES? UM, LIKE WHAT DO WE WANT THAT? LIKE, SO THINK ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COULD IT BE MULTIPLE OVERLAYS IF IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE ALL THOSE CATEGORIES.
DO WE WANT IT AS AN OVERLAY? DO WE WANT IT AS A STANDALONE DISTRICT? HOW DO WE WANNA FORMAT THIS? BECAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO GO ABOUT THIS.
IT'S ALMOST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT COULD BE IMPACTED CHART KNOWS OUT ON A MAP.
BUT THEN TOO, YOU LOOK, YOU LOOK AT USES THAT ARE IN RECESSION PROOF AND KIND OF STAND THE TEST OF TIME.
AND ESPECIALLY IN SMALL TOWNS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY COLLEGE TOWNS OR TOWNS, MILITARY INSTALLATIONS, THEY TEND TO WITHSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE UPS AND DOWNS OF THE ECONOMY.
THEY'RE STABLE AND THEY GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE FROM COMMUNITY.
SO THOSE ARE USES THAT WE WANNA ENCOURAGE TOO.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A FIND RMAS EXISTING IN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING, WHICH MEANS THEY WANNA EXPAND OR TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOUSES THIS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE CONFINES POWER.
IS THERE ANY OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS NEED TO REACH OUT TO GET INPUT FUND? LIKE RA, LIKE RA OR ANY OF, DID THEY FIND OUT WHAT UM, THAT WAS THAT RECOMMENDATION? THE COMP PLAN WAS BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM BACK IN BACK.
I'M JUST SAYING NOW, IS THERE ANY OTHER, SINCE WE MOVED ALONG, SINCE THEN THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO? MAYBE STARTING OUT WITH A MAP OF WHAT IS IN INSTANT IS AND THAT MIGHT BE THE PLACE TO GO.
I PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP AND JUST TYPE IN SCHOOL.
I JUST REMIND MYSELF WHERE THEY ALL ARE, INTERVIEW OUT.
ARE THEY ALREADY, THEY CONGREGATED, ARE THEY DISPERSED? AND THAT COULD CHANGE THE WAY THAT'S THE BEST TO, UH, TO HANDLE THEM.
I MEAN I, IF IT'S GOOD FOR A SCHOOL TO BE IN A SPOT OR ONE OF THESE OTHER INSTITUTIONS THAT WE ASSIGN, UM, BUT WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT AREA IN AN OVERLAY OR IN A ZONING SPOT, THEN IT'S POTENTIALLY DISADVANTAGING THEM WITH NO PARTICULARLY GOOD.
OR WE'RE FORCING THEM TO REZONE, WHICH RIGHT.
PASSES BENEFITS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IT DOES MAKE IT A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I'M INCLINED TOWARDS JUST AS A SORT OF PRELIMINARY INCLINED TOWARDS OVERLAY.
UM, BUT I GUESS WE'LL SEE, START, START WITH WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
I THINK WHERE JOHN USED TO WORK, THEY HAVE AN OVERLAY, RIGHT? ACTUALLY WHAT IT'S CALLED.
THEY HAD THEIR, THE COLLEGE HAD A OVERLAY DISTRICT IN RETIREMENT.
HOME HAD THEIR OWN DISTRICT TOO.
I MEAN, SO THOSE WERE CONSTANT.
THEY, THEY, THEY WERE LIKE A, THAT PLACE WAS AN AGE IN PLACE.
SO YOU COULD ADD THERE WAS REAL UNIQUE 'CAUSE THEY, THEY HAD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT YOU COULD MOVE IN TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON A STREET AS NORMAL JUST AS RETIREMENT.
THEN AS YOU AGED IN PLACE, YOU COULD EITHER MORE ASSISTED LIVING AND YOU MOVE UP TO THE FACILITY IF YOU NEEDED TO.
THEY HAD ACTUALLY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEXES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
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YOU JUST KIND OF AGED IN PLACE WITH THAT.AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NO ASSISTANCE TO SAY MAYBE A HOSPITAL SAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIVING MORE FOR THAT.
BUT MORE OF A NURSE TIME FACILITY.
UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW, LIKE OUR, OUR ORDINANCE IS NOT ENCOURAGED.
THE UNIVERSAL
SO THEY'RE SAYING IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR SETBACKS THAT MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY CAN'T PROVIDE HOUSING.
IT'S UNIVERSAL LIVING STANDARDS.
IT'S ALSO DUE THE LOT SIZE, SAME SHOES.
AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE CHANGES WAS THAT, UH, WE HAD SOME PUBLIC FEEDBACK ABOUT THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES.
AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LATE NIGHT.
UM, I THINK WE ADDED THAT IN HERE.
SO LIKE, WE HAVE ASSISTED LIVING IS DEFINED POLICE NURSING HOMES BECAUSE THEY'RE REGULATED BY TWO DIFFERENT STATE AGENCIES.
SO ONE IS OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES, ONE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WE UH, YOU SAID THAT JUST SORTING ERROR ON THESE DEFINITIONS.
SO DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN THERE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE SIGNS YES.
THAT I LEFT THEM IN THE ORIGINAL ORDER.
AND JUST ADDED THE WORD SIGN IN FRONT OF IT.
SO I DIDN'T WANT RESORT IT AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T, BUT I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SORT ORDER AND THIS IS THE CHANGE.
SO, SO IF YOU LOOK BACK, SINCE WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE, EVERYTHING IS SORTED THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED.
LIKE, SO WHEN YOU'RE FOLLOWING BACK ON THINGS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS IT ORIGINALLY? KIND OF THE FLOW OF ALL OF THOSE CHANGES RIGHT NOW IT GOES, IT'LL ALL FLOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.
I DON'T THINK THE ORIGINAL ORDER IN THE BOOK IS IMPORTANT ANYMORE.
AS LONG AS THE ORIGINAL TEXT IS THERE TO TRACK THAT.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S AN EASY, SO REALLY WHAT ALL THE SIGNS OR ALL THE DIS ALL THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT STUFF IS TOGETHER.
ALL THE SIGNED ORDINANCE IS TOGETHER.
ALTHOUGH I SAID THERE IS SOME RISK, THERE MAY BE AN OVERLAP BETWEEN TWO OF THE DISTRICTS.
SO WOULD, WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THERE TWICE IN THAT CASE? WE'D HAVE TO COMPARE.
'CAUSE I, I, I THINK TO ME GOING THROUGH THIS 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR DEFINITIONS IN ONE PART OF THE CODE.
SO UNDERSIGNED, WHEN YOU GET TO S AND OUT, THAT UNDERSIGNED IN ALL THOSE THAT PERTAIN TO THE SIGNS WOULD BE LISTED ALPHABETICALLY.
SO WOULD YOU WANT EVERYTHING LIKE, LIKE WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR BANNER.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER DEFINITION FOR AN AN ILLEGAL SIGNS.
SO THAT WOULD BE SIGN, SIGN, ILLEGAL SIGN.
I HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES THAT HAVE, SO THAT WOULD BE TO THE WAY I WAS VISIONING THAT YOU'D HAVE EVERYTHING FOR THE SIGN DEFINITION UNDER SIGN.
ALPHABETICALLY, ALPHABETICALLY, ALPHABETICALLY.
UH, SO WHOEVER'S USING IT CAN JUST GO TO THE SIGN PART OF THE DEFINITION.
SO WE DON'T HAVE DEFINITIONS IN FORM AND FIVE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE CODE UNDER ONE SECTION.
BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE SIGN PART DEFINITION ALSO UNDER HISTORIC MYSTERY OR HISTORIC.
THOSE DEFINITIONS UNDER HISTORIC WOULD HAVE TO BE OUTLINED.
AND I, I I JUST CHANGED SOME OF THAT DOCUMENT YOU SENT ME.
I DIDN'T FIND A LOT OF THEM IN THE EXCEL SPREAD.
IN THE, IN LIKE IN, IN THAT WORD DOCUMENT.
UM, IT SAID THAT AND THE KEY, IT SAYS IT'S IN BROWN, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN BROWN TEXT.
BROWN IS HISTORIC AND THEN IT IN HERE.
WHAT HAPPENED? MAYBE LIKE BLUE TIMES NEW ROMAN, EVEN THOUGH OH IS IT? IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BROWN.
WELL EVERYTHING YOU SAID THERE, THAT'S JUST, JUST SORT YEAH, THAT'S SORTING.
YOU JUST MAY HAVE TO ADD BECAUSE THEN WE, I'LL HAVE TO ADD HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DO THE, THE FLOODPLAIN AND THEN I COULD DO THE FLOODPLAIN AND THERE'S THE WARREN COUNTY FLOODPLAIN AND THEN THE DC FLOODPLAIN WC FLOOD FLOODPLAIN.
WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT OUR DEFINITIONS ALIGN WITH D CS MODEL COORDINATES AND DEFINITIONS.
I THINK WHAT LAUREN WAS SAYING PREVIOUSLY, WARREN COUNTY AMENDED THEIR DEFINITIONS BASED ON THE STATE.
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PROBABLY CONFIRM.BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A SECTION FOR FLOODPLAIN AND THE DEFINITIONS THAT STRICTLY DEAL WITH FLOODPLAIN.
WHO, WHO WILL DO THAT SHOULD DO THAT, COMPARE THE STATE.
UH, I CAN, WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH STAFF.
WE CAN JUST SO SHE KNOWS WHAT TO SORT FOR NOW TO GET IT TO, 'CAUSE HE'D ALWAYS CHANGE HIS WORDS.
AND I CAN ALWAYS JUST, I'M, I'M ASSUMING WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS DO BLOOD PLAIN COLON BLAH.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BLOOD PLAIN LETTER MAP, AMENDMENT, BLOOD, PLAIN LETTER MAP REVISION.
BLOOD PLAIN LETTER OR MAP CHANGE.
SO I CAN JUST GO THROUGH AND ADD THAT BLOOD PLAIN AND MAYBE ONCE WE SORT IT, WE'LL SEE MUCH MORE EASILY WHERE THERE MAY BE DUPLICATES.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE KIND OF LIKE HIGHER STANDARDS IF YOU LOOK AT IT.
SO REGULATIONS AND THE GENERAL REGULATIONS, IF YOU GO TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT MM-HMM
HISTORIC DISTRICT HAS ITS OWN LANGUAGE FOR SCIENCE PER SE.
I'M HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE HISTORIC, USUALLY THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT MUTED SIGNS OR EARTH TONE SIGNS.
SO, BUT IN ORDER PRECEDENCE, HISTORIC DISTRICT WILL TAKE A PRECEDENCE OVER SIGNS.
ANYTIME WE'RE DEALING ORDINANCES, JUST GENERAL RULE, THE STRICTER, UM, PROVISION, TYPICAL HOLD.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE ZONING.
I CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE PRETTY.
THE ONLY THING DISTRICT IS THE ONLY ONE I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
AND THE OTHER THING WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK IN SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE, ARE DEFINED IN 1 75, THEY'RE ALSO DEFINED IN 1 48.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THOSE DEFINITIONS FROM 1 48, LIKE THE DEFINITION OF LOT TO CORRESPOND.
1 48 BE THE SEVEN, SAME DEFINITION IN 1 75.
WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT, THOSE DEFINITIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE ON THE LEGAL TERM AS YOU MIGHT USE IT.
SURVEYING OR LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS TO MAKE SURE THE DEFINITIONS WE'RE USING ARE ONE AND THE SAME.
SO WHEN WE GET TO 1 48, THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE THE SAME THAT ARE IN 1 75.
SO AGAIN, WHO'S DOING THAT? STAFF WILL LOOK OVER THAT.
I'M DOING, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OUTTA IT, I'M JUST OKAY.
WELL, YEAH, NO, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT HELPS US TOO, GOING THROUGH THE PD.
I, I'LL, WELL STAFF WILL LOOK ESPECIALLY ON THE SUBDIVISION.
'CAUSE UH, THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE LACKING ON SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS.
UH, AND WE'LL RESEARCH OR LOOK AT SOME, UH, TEXTS THAT, UH, CHANGES HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE, MAY NEED TO CHANGE A FEW WORDS IN IT OR SOMETHING.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY, I LIKE TO USE THAT WORD LEGAL WHEN THE LEGAL SPOT AS FAR AS WE CAN DEFEND THOSE DEFINITIONS IF YOU HAVE TO.
SO ULTIMATELY YOU WANT ALL THE DEFINITIONS FROM BOTH SOURCES.
ALL, WELL, MULTIPLE SOURCES ALL IN ONE DOCUMENT.
SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN
THAT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO LEGAL.
NO, I, I UNDERSTAND IT JUST, IT ADDS A BURDEN THAT WHEN THIS ONE CHANGES AND YOU HAVE TO RIPPLE IT THROUGH.
THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND OUT WHEN THEY MADE CHANGES IN ONE SECTION OF CODE, THEY DIDN'T AMEND THE OTHER PART OF THE CODE.
SO NOW WE GOT, UNFORTUNATELY A DEFINITION IN THREE DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND WE HAVE LIKE TWO DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF SIGN.
AND ONE OF 'EM HAS LIKE A, LIKE HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS, A SKELETON CAN COUNT AS A SIGN, WHICH GETS A LITTLE, GETS TO BE A LITTLE MUCH AS FAR AS THE ENFORCEMENT END OF IT GOES MM-HMM
BECAUSE YES, IT'S IN VIOLATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE HALLOWEEN SKELETON.
I THINK WE'RE AT THE END OF THIS IS I, I THINK, BUT I'LL LOOK, WE'LL LOOK ON THE FLOOD PLAIN THING AND I MAY GET THE DEFINITIONS AND WE WILL SHARE RESPONSIBILITY OR SOMETHING.
WELL, STUART, DON'T FEEL, DON'T BE SHY.
SO YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST FILTER ON FLOODPLAIN AND THEN ALL YOU'LL SEE IS EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THAT DOCUMENT FOR FLOODPLAIN.
SO THAT'LL BE MAYBE YOU CAN COME IN AND SHOW US BECAUSE YOU'RE
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A WIZARD.AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENT, BUT WHEN WE GO FORWARD AND WE PASS THIS DOWN IN HAS TO BE.
BUT ALSO IF NOBODY REALLY KNOWS HOW TO WORK IN EXCEL, THEN THERE'S NO POINT IN PUTTING IT IN EXCEL.
THERE BENEFITS TO IT, BUT IF IT DOESN'T RIGHT.
HELP YOU GUYS THEN, THEN IT DOESN'T MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR YOU.
I MEAN I USE EXCEL EVERY DAY, BUT I'M NOT, I MEAN, I'M JUST ONE PERSON, SO I'M NOT, IT CAN GO EITHER.
IT NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE WHAT YOU DID IS THAT IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
UM, YOU DID NOT LINK MULTIPLE SHEETS TOGETHER, SO I'M JUST NO, I DID NOT
UM, BUT YES, BUT I, YEAH, I CAN COME IN AND SHOW KIND OF DO THAT.
UM, I WAS VERY, VERY, VERY TEMPTED TO HYPERLINK THAT DOCUMENT TO THE DEFINITIONS AND NOT THE OTHER DOCUMENT, BUT I RESISTED
UM, I HAVE STARTED WORKING ON THAT.
SO I WAS THINKING I MIGHT ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION.
AND THEN BEFORE YOU ADJOURN REAL QUICK, JUST GIVE YOU WHAT'S COMMON.
UM, SO THE STATE CODE CHANGED, UM, AND IT AFFECTS OUR REVIEW PROCESS OF, UH, SITE MANAGEMENT SUBDIVISION.
SO THINGS THAT TYPICALLY COME TO YOU GUYS NOW WILL NOT BE SO GOING THROUGH THAN JUST REDLINED PLANNING COMMISSION COUNCIL OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
I'M GONNA GET WITH THESE TWO NEXT WEEK TO KIND OF MAKE SURE IT'S ALL RIGHT.
AND THEN THAT'LL COME IN, BE COMING TO YOU GUYS IN AUGUST.
MAKE SURE YOU, UH, WE NEED TO AMEND THE CHECKLIST.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO THE CHECKLIST.
WE'LL HAVE TO DO, I JUST WENT THROUGH TO CONTROL OR SEARCH FOR PLACE AND STRUCK IT MM-HMM
AND THEN WE CAN FINE TUNE IT TOGETHER.
BUT I DIDN'T WANNA FINE TUNE IT ON MY OWN.
IT'S JUST THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, RIGHT? NO HAVE REASON.
IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS THAT I GUESS GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS CONCLUDED, DELAYS THE PROCESS UNNECESSARILY TO HAVE IT GO BEYOND STAFF LEVEL.
STAFF LEVEL BEING JOHN, JOHN
I MEAN, SO LIKE IN THE PAST WHEN I DID, LIKE WHEN WE REVIEWED THE PLATS FOR YOU, WE HAD THE CHECKLIST PER TOWN CODE.
THEN WE WOULD PUT A CIRCLE WITH THE NUMBERS SO YOU COULD LOOK AT A CHECKLIST AND SEE HOW IT CORRESPONDED WITH THE PLAT THAT THEY MADE ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE CODE, EVERYTHING WAS REVIEWED AND THEY MET EVERYTHING.
BUT THAT WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE PLAT THAT MET ALL THE CODE THAT YOU REVIEWED.
SO NOW WITH THE STATE PASSING THE LEGISLATION EFFECTIVE JULY ONE, UM, NOW IT'S JUST STAFF WILL UH, REVIEW IT, APPROVE IT, BUT STILL HAS TO HAVE SIGNATURES.
BUT JUST WILL NOT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW OR THE TOWN COUNCIL.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY POPULAR, BUT OKAY.
SO ESSENTIALLY LIKE YOU COULD GET A, THE SITE PLAN FOR EXAMPLE, OR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SITE DEVELOPMENT ONLY PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT LIKE A PLAT, YOU COULD HAVE STAFF COULD HAVE MADE ALL THE NE THEY COULD, MADE ALL THE NECESSARY CORRECTIONS.
WE'LL JUST SAY IN MAY IT'S READY FOR SIGNATURES.
IT WOULDN'T WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNTIL JUNE AND THE TOWN COUNCIL TO JULY THE EARLIEST.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
IF IT MET EVERYTHING IN MAY, IT MEETS THE CODE ADMINISTRATIVELY IT'S APPROVED AND SIGNED IN MAY AND NOT HAVING THE JUNE AND JULY MEETINGS BASED ON THE STATE.
SO PREVIOUSLY STATE LAW, UH, WAS WORDED SUCH THAT IT WAS AN OPTIONAL PROVISION IN YOUR ORDINANCE.
YOU COULD DESIGNATE AND LEAVE IT STRICTLY ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL OR YOU COULD ADVANCE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE GOVERNING BODY.
AND COUNCIL ACTUALLY TOOK THIS ISSUE UP A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK, ABOUT JUST KEEPING IT AT STAFF LEVEL.
AND THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE IT ALONE.
THERE'LL HAVE TO BE, WELL THAT'LL BE A FOLLOWING THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVELY INTERNALLY TO KEEPING ESPECIALLY TOWN COUNCIL INFORMED OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'LL BE PEOPLE EXCITED IF THEY FIND OUT LATE IN THE PROCESS,
I JUST NO, I'M JUST SAYING ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT'S AN INTERNAL REPORTING TYPE THING WITH A HEADS UP ON THE MONDAY MORNING STAFF MEETING TYPE
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THING, THEY'LL FIND OUT ABOUT THE SUBDIVISIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE.PROBABLY DON'T WANT HIM TELLING THEM
THAT WILL BE THE ONLY, ANYWAY.
BUT, BUT THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS IS YOU KNOW, IN THEORY, I MEAN, I GUESS THEY COULD DENY SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD NO REASON TO DENY.
SO YOU'RE WITHOUT A DOUBT, YOU'RE PUTTING MORE RISK INTO MORE RISK INTO IT AND VARIOUS EXPERTISE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE, THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND YEP.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO, AGAIN, I, I THINK IT WAS THE DELAY, THE DELAYS WERE GETTING THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WANTED TO, UM, REMOVE.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S ALL DEBATABLE STUFF.
SO WE HAVE THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE AUS COMING TO YOU.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT'LL BE COMING FROM AUGUST.
UM, SO IT'S GETTING BUSY, GETTING BUSY.
THEN WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON THESE USES.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THIS APPROVED INTO COUNCILS THE NEXT SECTION OF THE, UM, A CODE DOCUMENT AS WELL.
IF THERE'S ZONING CODE, YOU GOTTA SEND THAT OUT AT THE SAME TIME AS I CAN THE NEXT SECTION, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A BIG PIECE.
WELL THIS IS LIKE THE MAIN CHUNK OF IT.
SO THE NEXT PIECE IS ALL OF THE ZONES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO WE'VE DONE ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF NOW WE'VE DONE THE DEFINITIONS, NOW IT'S THE ZONES.
ALL THE ZONES HAVE BEEN GRAPHICALLY REPRESENTED HERE.
UM, SO I WILL ABSOLUTELY SEND OUT THE TEXT PORTIONS OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IS THE INTENT APPROPRIATE.
UM, AND THEN USES, OH THAT USES BELONG, WHERE THAT THING, WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON ALONG WITH THAT SHEET MAKES IT ALL POSSIBLE.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT, THE ONLY THING LEFT ARE LIKE THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
BUT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THOSE AS A PART OF THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TOO.
BECAUSE IF WE SAY THIS NEEDS TO BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WE MAY WANNA HAVE SOME STANDARDS TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
SO THIS NEXT CHUNK IS GONNA BE A BIG, OKAY.
SO, BUT THEN AT THAT POINT I THINK WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND TO START GETTING INPUT.
I'M HOPING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THEN KEEP
SO WHILE WE'RE MAKING MINOR TWEAKS, HERE'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TWEAKS TO THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE STILL GONNA BE COMPLETELY GOING THROUGH IT AND UM, REDLINING THAT AND AMENDING THAT AS WELL TO ALIGN WITH THIS.
IT'S BEEN A WHOLE PROCESS FOR THE LAST, WHAT, FOUR YEARS.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE WILL NOW ALIGN WITH THE COMP PLAN TO BRING IT INTO FRUITION OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
HOPEFULLY IT'S A AFTERWARDS WE FINE TUNED, STREAMLINED PROCESS UPDATE AND IS GOING FORWARD.
THEN YOU'LL BE HAVE TO, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO AMEN THE, REQUIRES AN AMENDMENT TO THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS OR YOU LOOK AT IT EVERY FIVE YEARS AND WE START AGAIN.
WE LEAVE OUT THE LITTLE BIRD NEXT TIME.
SUPPOSED TO LIKE HELP PEOPLE VOTE
ANYWAY, LASTLY AND GO GOING AROUND, WAS ANYTHING ANYONE WANTED TO DISCUSS OR BRING UP TONIGHT? NO.
I GUESS WE'RE READY TO ADJOURN.