* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [I. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:07] CHAIRMAN NER, PRESENT, VICE CHAIRMAN NEIL. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FEDERICA. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? HERE. COMMISSIONER MARRAZZO. HERE. WE HAVE A COURT. WE HAVE A COURT. WE SHALL PROCEED. UM, FIRST ITEM [III. ADDITION/DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA] IS THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? COLLEAGUES FOR THE AGENDA? OKAY. UM, THEN [IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WE WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES. HAVE ALL MEMBERS REVIEWED THE MINUTES? YES. OKAY. YES. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES REQUESTED? NO. NOPE. OKAY. UH, MAY I HEAR A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOVE. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 16TH REGULAR MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? MS. POTTER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MARRAZZO. I'LL ABSTAIN 'CAUSE I WASN'T HERE. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES. CHAIRMAN MARNER? YES. VICE CHAIRMAN NEIL? YES. COMMISSIONER FEDERICA? YES. AT THIS POINT, UH, UH, MS. POTTER, HAS ANYBODY'S FROM THE PUBLIC SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION? NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS? NO. NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP. OKAY. UM, UH, THEN WE'RE NOW AT THE CONSENT [VI. CONSENT AGENDA] AGENDA PORTION OF THE MEETING. UH, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE MAY THE SEVENTH WORK SESSION. THESE ARE NOT ITEMS WE'LL BE DISCUSSED. THESE ARE NOT ITEMS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, BUT SIMPLY PERMITTING STAFF TO ADVERTISE THESE ITEMS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY THE 21ST. UH, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA TO PUBLICLY ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN MAY AS PRESENTED. SECOND. OKAY. UM, IS THERE A DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY. OKAY. UM, THE, UH, LET ME JUST READ, UM, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. WELL, I'M THINKING BEFORE WE VOTE, SHOULDN'T I READ WHAT THE ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SURE. UH, THE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE ITEMS READ WHAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, ONE IS NUMBER 2 5 0 0 1 0 4. UH, TO REQUEST A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION, UH, BY HAPPY CREEK ANTIQUES FOR A FARMER'S MARKET AT FIVE 15 B NORTH COMMERCE AVENUE. UH, THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT. THE OTHER ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS NUMBER 2 5 0 0 1 0 8. THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY HOME-BASED HOLDINGS LLC TO ALLOW A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AT 66 WEST STRASBURG ROAD. THIS IS OWNED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT. SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAY 21ST. UM, NOW WE HAD A MOTION TO SECOND. DO WE HAVE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ACCEPTED. NOW WE [VII. PUBLIC HEARING] ARE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE EVENING. LET ME JUST GO OVER A FEW OF THE RULES FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. THE ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR EACH APPLICATION IS AS FOLLOWS. THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICANT IS THEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK AFTER THE APPLICANT GIVES HIS OR HER PRESENTATION. THEN WE OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION. ONCE ALL THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK HAVE DONE SO, WE PERMIT THE APPLICANT TO RETURN TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS MADE BY THE PUBLIC. AND, UH, LET ME JUST REMIND EVERYBODY WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. UH, AND PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING AT THE PODIUM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, PLEASE DO NOT ADDRESS THE APPLICANT, UH, OR THE STAFF OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM OR OTHER SPEAKERS. AND FINALLY, OF COURSE, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. UH, UH, DISCOURTEOUS OR DISRESPECTFUL LANGUAGE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THE FIRST APPLICATION WE HAVE IS NUMBER 2 5 0 0 0 5 1. AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN CODE, CHAPTER 1 75 DASH 1 37 PERTAINING TO FEES, CHARGES, AND EXPENSES, AND CHAPTER 1 48 DASH 1100 FEES. MR. WARE, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? [00:05:05] PERMIT 25 0 0 0 5. ONE IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN CODE, CHAPTER 1 75 1 37 PERTAINING TO FEES, CHARGES, AND EXPENSES. AND CHAPTER 1 48 1 1 0 0 TO FEES, UH, INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS NEW TABLES FOR 1 75, 1 37, AND FOR 1 48 1100 FEES. UH, YOU ALSO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS THE STRIKE THROUGH OF THE PRESENT CODE. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSED THE FEE CHANGES AT SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS AND THE NEEDS AND REASONS BEHIND THE PROPOSED CHANGES. STAFF PREVIOUSLY COMPILED A COMPARISON CHART FROM OTHER ADJACENT LOCALITIES AND THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE NEEDED CHANGES, INCLUDING THE ADVERTISEMENT FEES, STAFF TIME SPENT ON RESEARCH OF APPLICATIONS, INSPECTIONS AND SO FORTH. SO, UH, IN YOUR PACKET IS THE TABLE FOR 1 75, 1 37. WE HAVE CHANGED THAT TO INCLUDE TABLES INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTLY THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PACKET WITH THE STRIKE THROUGH. SO WE, UH, BROKE THOSE DOWN KIND OF PER DEPARTMENT. YOU HAVE THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, UH, CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW GOES DOWN TO REZONING APPLICATIONS, SIGN APPLICATIONS, SPECIAL USE PERMITS, UH, PERMITS FOR THE ZONING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO, UH, ZONING PERMIT FEES, UH, WITH, UH, PERMITS THERE. THAT'S ON THAT PART OF THE CHAPTER AND 1 48, 1100. THOSE ARE UNDER THE LAND USE OR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UH, FEES OR CHANGES OF THOSE FEES FOR THOSE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS. UH, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH, I THINK AT THREE WORK SESSIONS, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, SPENT A GOOD BIT OF TIME ON IT SINCE JANUARY. UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THESE TABLES THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT YOU, UH, LOOKED OVER SEVERAL TIMES? NO. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES? NO. NO. IS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PRESENT AND DOES THE STAFF WISH TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF IT? NO. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION MR. WARE. WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, I NOTICE THAT NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. I NOTICE ALSO PEOPLE CAME IN AFTER THIS HAD BEEN COLLECTED. UM, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO ADDRESS THEMSELVES TO THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC? OKAY. UM, IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE AHEAD. UM, WITH THE, UH, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? UM, THE FEE SCHEDULE? I WOULD, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF GOOD ZONING PRACTICE, I MOVE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR ORDINANCES AMENDMENT, UH, 2 5 0 0 0 5 1 TO AMEND THE TOWN, UH, FRONT ROYAL TOWN CODE CHAPTER 1 7 5 DASH 1 3 7 PERTAINING TO FEES, CHARGES, AND EXPENSES. AND AT CHAPTER 1 48 DASH 1100 FEES. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND IS THERE DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A QUICK AMENDMENT. THE LINE ITEM THAT STATES, UM, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT WOULD BE $650 THAT NEEDS TO BE STRICKEN FROM THE TAX. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON THE FIRST PAGE NEEDS TO BE STRICKEN. YES. THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FOR $650 NEEDS TO COME OUT OF THIS DOCUMENT. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, SO I NEED ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO AMEND THE MOTION. OKAY. TO ADDRESS THAT CHANGE. SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION, WHY DON'T YOU AMEND IT? YEAH. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT AN AMENDED MOTION HERE. UM, BEING THAT I MOVE THAT THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SANDS, THE LINE ZONING ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FEE OF $650. SO EXCEPT FOR THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OTHERWISE TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2 5 0 0 0 5 1 TO AMEND FOR TOWN CODE CHAPTER 1 7 5 DASH 1 37 PERTAINED TO FEES, CHARGES, EXPENSES, AND CHAPTER 1 48, 1100 FEES. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE AMENDED MOTION? SECOND DISCUSSION. IT HAS BEEN AT LENGTH. , WE'VE BEATEN THIS HORSE. YEAH, NO, THE METHODOLOGY AND AMOUNT OF EACH OF THIS, UH, MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY. NO, I SAID NO. IT SAID THE METHODOLOGY AND THE AMOUNT EACH OF THESE HAVE BEEN WELL DISCUSSED AT MULTIPLE WORKING GROUPS. IT WAS TESTED INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN WE TESTED IT AS PART OF THE WORKING GROUP SO THAT IT'S, IT'S IT'S QUITE MATURE. , THE MATURE AND WELL CONSIDERED. YES. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? AYE. NOW, MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER [00:10:01] MARRAZZO? YES. CHAIRMAN MARNER? YES. COMMISSIONER FEDERICA? YES. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES. VICE CHAIRMAN NEIL? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO TOWN CODE CHAPTER 1 75 DASH 12.1 TO ALLOW LODGING HOUSES BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. MR. WARE, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM PLEASE? APPLICATION 25 0 0 62 IS A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW TOWN CODE CHAPTER 1 75, 12 0.1 TO ALLOW LODGING HOUSES BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UH, INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL AND A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION. UH, SO DOWN UNDER MISCELLANEOUS OF 1 75, 12 0.1 HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN RED IS LODGING HOUSES, ROOMING HOUSES AND BOARDING HOUSES ON PARCELS THREE QUARTER OF AN ACRE OR LARGER. UH, BASED ON THE STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, THERE IS A NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPES THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT EXPRESSLY COVERED BY TOWN CODE. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE LODGING HOUSE WOULD BE IN THIS CATEGORY UNTIL FURTHER ACTION IS DEFINED BY DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES AS IS ADDRESSED. UH, TOWN CODE DOES PERMIT SUCH OTHER USES AS DETERMINED, SIMILAR, UH, USES BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. UH, WE DISCUSS, WE'LL HAVE SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO DISCUSS OTHER HOUSING TYPES, BUT FOR TONIGHT'S, UH, PROPO, UH, APPLICATION IS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A LODGING HOUSE IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT ON THOSE PARCELS OF LAND THAT TH ARE THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE OR LARGER? TYPICALLY THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, THE LOTS ARE 10,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, WHEN THEY ARE CONNECTED TO TOWN WATER AND SEWER. IF THEY AREN'T ANY CONNECTED TO ONE OF THE UTILITIES, IT'S 30,000. AND IF THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED TO EITHER MEANING NO PUBLIC WATER OR NO PUBLIC SEWER, THEN THOSE LOTS NEED TO BE AT LEAST 40,000 SQUARE FEET. SO THE LOTS, UH, BASICALLY IN SUBDIVISIONS ARE, WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS 'CAUSE THEY DO NOT REACH THE THREE QUARTER OF AN ACRE MINIMUM. USUALLY THOSE IN THE R ONE DISTRICT AND SUBDIVISIONS, THOSE LOTS ARE OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT WELL UNDER THE OTHER, UH, SO THE DEFINITION OF A LODGING HOUSE IS A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OTHER THAN A HOTEL MOTEL OR BED AND BREAKFAST HOME WHERE LODGING IS PROVIDED FOR COMPENSATION ON A REGULAR BASIS PURSUANT TO PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENTS, BUT WHICH IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR TRANSIENT GUESTS. MEALS MAY BE PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS IN A CENTRAL LOCATION. HOWEVER, NO PROVISION SHALL BE MADE FOR COOKING IN INDIVIDUAL ROOMS OR UNITS. THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ROOMS OR UNITS SHALL BE CONTROLLED BY THE AREA REQUIREMENTS OF THE DISTRICT IN WHICH THE USE IS LOCATED. BUT IN NO CASE SHALL THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS OR UNITS EXCEED 10. A LODGING HOUSE SHALL ALSO BE KNOWN AS A ROOMING HOUSE OR A BOARDING HOUSE. UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS, YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE, IS THIS USE APPROPRIATE IN THE R ONE DISTRICT? NO QUESTIONS. MR. WARE. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT. OKAY. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OPEN THE HEARING. YEAH. SORRY. UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS TOPIC? NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK NOW IF YOU WISH. OKAY. IN THAT CASE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL, I'LL GO FOR IT. FOR THE PURPOSE OF GOOD ZONING PRACTICE AND LACK OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 2 5 0 0 0 6 2, TO NOT ALLOW LODGING HOUSES BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. SECOND, UM, DISCUSSION. SO THE IDEA WITH LODGING HOUSES, UH, COLLOQUIALLY, UH, [00:15:01] MORE COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD AS AIRBNBS, BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THAT BRAND. UH, IT, TO MY UNDERSTANDING AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN THE CODE ALREADY, IT THIS AGREES PRETTY HEAVILY WITH THE INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE AREAS WHICH ARE DESIGNED THEN TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE A SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR FAMILY LIFE WHERE THERE ARE CHILDREN TO SPREAD AREAS OF SUITABLE EXPANSION OF THE TOWN OF FACILITIES PROVIDED, ET CETERA. UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A HOME THAT'S NEXT DOOR OR SLIGHTLY DOWN THE STREET, DEPENDING ON THE LOT SIZE, UH, THAT HAS PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT, THAT ARE CHANGING OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORLY SITUATION, REALLY. UH, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY THEN PROMOTE A FAMILY LIFE WHERE THERE ARE CHILDREN, UH, IN THIS TYPE OF A SETTING. UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE THIS FITS NOT TO MENTION THAT IN THE STATEMENT OF INTENT. IT ALSO STATES SPECIFICALLY THAT MOBILE HOMES OR ROOMING HOUSES ARE PROHIBITED. UH, SO TO THEN GO AND SAY, OH, NOW THEY ARE SEEMS TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, CONTRADICT THIS PREVIOUSLY SET PART OF THE CODE. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, OVERALL DOES NOT SEEM TO, TO BE, HAVE SUFFICIENT REASON TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, WITH APPROVAL. UM, GO MR. NEIL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A, MAY MAKE SUGGEST TO YOU A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? IF YOU COULD, COULD YOU READ YOUR MOTION AGAIN PLEASE? FOR THE PURPOSE OF GOOD ZONING PRACTICE AND LACK OF PUBLIC NECESSITY? I SAID I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 2 5 0. OKAY. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DELETE THE LACK OF PUBLIC NECESSITY PHRASE IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC NECESSITY FOR SH FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, SHORT TERM HOUSING, ABILITY TO SHARE SHARED HOUSING. UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE SUCH THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE AND MORE AND THEY CAN'T ALWAYS MAINTAIN AN APARTMENT OR A HOUSE. SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DELETE THAT FIRST? I I SEE WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING. UM, THIS IS PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DENIAL IS THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THAT'S WHERE I CAME FROM OUTTA OUR LEGAL DESCRIPTION. UM, BUT I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT, UM, IT, IT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION. WE, I I WAS GOING TO SAY WE DO NEED THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING TOWARD IN, IN OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT'LL GO BEYOND THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT THAT THE, UM, SO WE HAD THE MEETING FOR THE SPECIAL PURPOSE HOUSING, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN, MARIE FORD. 'CAUSE WHAT I WAS SAY HERE IS THIS, THIS APPLICATION HERE, IT'S JUST TOO GENERAL IN NATURE AND COVERS A BROAD SWATH OF TYPES OF HOUSES. I AGREE THAT THIS, THAT THIS IS, AND WE CAN'T, WE AND, AND SO TRYING TO DISAPPROVE, UM, I CAN'T, CAN'T APPROVE JUST PIECES OF IT IN THIS BROAD SWATH. WELL, I AGREE THAT THIS IS TOO GENERAL AND I, I, I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE REJECTED, BUT I I, I DON'T LIKE GETTING ON THE RECORD THAT THERE'S NO PUBLIC NEED WHEN WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC NEED. SO WHY DO WE WANNA SAY THERE ISN'T, THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC NEED FOR THIS WIDE SWATH IS WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST FOR THE WIDE SWATH OF IT, BUT SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BLENDING. UM, THE OTHER THING WITH THIS, THIS IS A STANDALONE MOTION. WE CAN'T BLEND OTHER WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT. SO I CAN'T SAY THAT. YOU CAN'T SAY THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I KEEP IT AS A STANDALONE. OKAY. AS LONG AS WE AGREE THAT THERE ISN'T A NEED. OH, A ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S OTHERWISE YOU, YOU, YOU'VE SEEN EXTENSIVE WORK IS BEING DONE. I DO, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC REALIZES THAT WE SEE JUST HAVEN'T IT THE PUBLIC HEARING STAGES. I JUST WANNA MAKE MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC REALIZES THAT WE REALIZE THE NEED IS THERE. OKAY. OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I DISAGREE WITH, UH, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN. THE REASON THAT YOU SAID THERE CLEARLY IS A NEED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DEALING WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO, UM, APPROACH IN THE COMING MONTHS. MR. WARE EVEN SAID, THIS IS KIND OF A HOLDOVER, IF YOU WILL, UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT. UM, AND IT'S BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A BUY RIGHT THING WHERE NOW THAT YOU HAVE PROPERTY IN R ONE, YOU CAN NOW MAKE IT A BOARDING HOUSE. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I DISAGREE. FIX ANYTHING? NO. NO. YEAH. NO. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS WE HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. [00:20:03] WE'VE HAD A MOTION. WE'VE HAD A SECOND. MS. POTTER, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE COMMISSIONER FEDERICA. YES, CHAIRMAN MARNER TO DISAPPROVE THE RESOLUTION. YES. VICE CHAIRMAN NEIL? YES. COMMISSIONER MARRAZZO? YES. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? NO. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES. UM, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 2 5 0 0 0 7 2. A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SUBMITTED BY THE WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY HEALTH COALITION FOR A LODGING HOUSE AT 5 0 6 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE. IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TAX MAP 20 A FIVE, SECTION SEVEN, BLOCK 18, LOT THREE AND FOUR. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR. MR. WARE, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? UH, I DO. SO WE'LL GO OVER A FEW TOPICS HERE THAT THE QUESTIONS WAS BROUGHT UP RECENTLY. SO JUST SOME GUIDELINES FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS. UH, THE GOVERNING BODY IS AUTHORIZED TO GRANT SPECIAL USE PERMITS UNDER SUITABLE REGULATIONS AND SAFEGUARDS UNDER VIRGINIA CODE 15 POINT 2286 A THREE. UNDER VIRGINIA LAW, THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED MUST BEAR A REASONABLE RELATIONSHIP TO THE LEGITIMATE LAND USE CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS GENERATED BY THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, UNLIKE PROFFERS THAT ACCOMPANY IN A REZONING CONSIDERED BY THE LOCALITY OF GOVERNING BODY, SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS ARE NOT VOLUNTEERED BY THE LANDOWNER AND NEED NOT TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS. SPECIAL USE PERMITS SHALL DEMONSTRATE THE APPROPRIATENESS OF ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL USE ON A SPECIFIC PROPERTY. TYPICAL STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO SPECIAL USE PERMITS INCLUDES CONSIDERATION OF THE IMPACT OF THE SPECIAL USE ON THE CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT. THE IMPACTS OF THE SPECIAL USE ON THE WELFARE OF THE LANDOWNERS AND THE OCCUPANTS OF THE LAND IN THE DISTRICT AND IS ITS CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OTHER FACTORS THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED INCLUDE THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY, THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC, AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. PRINCIPLES TO KNOW ABOUT SPECIAL USE PERMITS, WHETHER GRANTED BY THE GOVERNING BODY OR THE BZA SPECIAL USE PERMITS ARE LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. USES ALLOWED BY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT ARE CONSIDERED TO HAVE A POTENTIALLY GREATER IMPACT THAN THOSE ALLOWED. AS A MATTER OF RIGHT. SPECIAL USE PERMITS MUST BE EVALUATED UNDER REASONABLE STANDARDS BASED ON ZONING PRINCIPLES. THE IMPACTS AND SPECIAL USES ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS MUST BE REASONABLE RELATED TO THE IMPACTS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND THE EXTENT OF THE CONDITIONS MUST BE ROUGHLY PROPORTIONAL TO THE IMPACTS. DECISIONS TO DENY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CIRCUIT COURT. WHEN A LOCALITY IMPOSES CONDITIONS ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IT MUST BE CERTAIN THAT THE CONDITIONS HAVE AN ESSENTIAL NEXUS THAT IS RELATED TO THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND ROUGHLY PROPORTIONAL TO THE EXTENT OF THE IMPACT. SO THE ESSENTIAL NEXUS OR THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PRIVATE PARTY'S ACTIVITY AND THE BURDEN PLACED ON THE COMMUNITY AS A RESULT, AND THE FEE REQUIREMENT PLACED ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PRIVATE PARTY, IS ROUGHLY PROPORTIONAL TO THE BURDEN IMPOSED. SO YOU CAN PLACE SPECIAL CONDITIONS ON SPECIAL USE PERMITS, UH, BUT YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE CONDITIONS YOU'RE PLACING. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE COMING UP SO YOU CAN PLACE CONDITIONS ON THEM. UH, SO THE UH, FIRST APPLICATION IS 25 0 0 0 72. REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS SUBMITTED BY THE WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY HEALTH COALITION FOR A LODGING HOUSE, UH, WHICH WE'VE PREVIOUSLY SEEN THE, UH, DEFINITION FOR THAT AT 5 0 6, UH, NORTH ROYAL AVENUE. THE PROPERTY IS ZONE C ONE. IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND ALSO LOCATED IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR. INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS A LOCATION MAP, THE SUP APPLICATION, A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION AND AN IMPROVEMENT SURVEY PLAN SHOWING THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA. UH, SO THERE UNDER 1 75 39 UNDER MISCELLANEOUS FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT BOARDING HOUSES, CLUBS, AND LODGING [00:25:01] HOUSES ARE LISTED. AGAIN, THE DEFINITION, A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OTHER THAN A HOTEL, MOTEL OR BED AND BREAKFAST HOME WHERE LODGING IS PROVIDING FOR COMPENSATION ON A REGULAR BASIS PURSUANT TO PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENTS, BUT IT IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR TRANSIENT GUESTS. MEALS MAY BE PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS IN A CENTRAL LOCATION. HOWEVER, NO PROVISION SHALL BE MADE FOR COOKING IN INDIVIDUAL ROOMS OR UNITS. THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF ROOMS OR UNITS SHALL BE CONTROLLED BY THE AREA REQUIREMENTS OF THE DISTRICT IN WHICH IT'S LOCATED. BUT IN NO CASE SHALL THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS OR UNITS EXCEED 10. A LODGING HOUSE SHALL ALSO BE KNOWN AS A ROOMING HOUSE OR A BOARDING HOUSE. UH, SO WHEN WE DO A CHANGE OF USE, 1 75 1 0 4, THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES THIS. ALL NEW USES OR DEVELOPMENTS AND CHANGE OF USE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 1 48. SO OUTER 1 48, 8 70, PARKING AND LOADING AREAS, THE BOARDING, LODGING, BOARDING AND BED AND BREAKFAST REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER ROOM, AND ADDITIONAL TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES. SO WITH THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHEN IT'S A CHANGE OF USE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MEET THE PARKING AND LOADING AREAS, UH, REGULATIONS OF TOWN CODE. SO THERE'S THE, UH, PROPERTY, THE AERIAL VIEW AT 5 0 6 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE. UH, THE FRONT VIEW OF THE STONE HOME THERE AT 5 0 6. ANOTHER SIDE PROFILE, PART OF THE FRONT THERE AND THE REAR OF THE LOT. CURRENTLY, THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT PARKING ON SITE TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE USE. UH, THAT IS DEPICTED ON THE SURVEY PLAT, WHICH THEY DO HAVE A PROPOSED GRAVEL PARKING LOT WITH SIX FURNISHED PARKING SPACES. AND THAT IS A PROPOSED PARKING LOT AND PARKING FACILITIES. UH, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVABLE WITH APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS PLACED ON THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT? NO. NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S KRISTA SHIFFLETT, 3 0 5 HUNTER RIDGE ROAD, WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA, 2 2 6 0 2. UM, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WARREN COALITION. AND JUST A LITTLE SHORT BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS, THE WARREN COALITION CURRENTLY HAS TWO RECOVERY RESIDENCE LEVEL THREE RECOVERY RESIDENCES OPERATING ON ROYAL AVENUE. UM, WE HAVE A HOUSE CALLED THE LANDING, WHICH IS 5 0 6 SOUTH, I'M SORRY, 500 SOUTH. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE THAT IS CALLED THE NEST, THAT'S AT 200 NORTH. UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHUFFLE FOR US. THE WOMEN'S HOUSE IS, UH, THE NEST AT 200, AND WE HAVE, UH, FOUR FEMALES IN THAT HOUSE. IT'S BEEN OPEN SINCE SEPTEMBER. THE MOST WE HAVE HAD IN THE HOUSE IS SEVEN, AND FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. UM, FROM A BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THIS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WOMEN IN THE HOUSE TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE RENT, QUITE HONESTLY. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MOVE THE WOMEN'S HOUSE TO THIS HOUSE, WHICH IS A THREE BEDROOM UNIT THAT WILL HOUSE SIX. UM, AND THEN OPEN WHAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL HOUSE, WHICH IS THE NEST. THIS IS A LITTLE CONFUSING, WHICH WAS THE LANDING, WHICH IS A HAS NINE, CAN SLEEP NINE. UM, WE ARE GONNA OPEN THAT AS ANOTHER SECOND MEN'S HOUSE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, 13 PEOPLE AT THE LANDING, AND IT'S FULL. WE HAVE FIVE ON A WAITING LIST FOR MEN. THREE MORE THAT WE ARE TAKING TO TREATMENT TOMORROW. WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO COME BACK AND STAY IN THE HOUSE ONCE THEY COMPLETE TREATMENT? SO THESE ARE LEVEL THREE HOUSES. THEY HAVE TO HAVE COME OUT OF TREATMENT IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. BE ACTIVELY IN TREATMENT TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THE HOUSE. UM, ALL OF OUR HOUSES HAVE AN ONSITE MANAGER WHO LIVES ON THE HOUSE, UH, IN THE HOUSE, UM, FOR THE FEMALE HOUSE. UM, WE, SHE'S ALSO A MEDICATION MANAGER SO SHE CAN GIVE OUT MEDS. OUR MEDS ARE SECURED AND SAFE. THEY'RE GIVEN OUT AT SPECIFIC TIMES OF DAY. UM, WE, THEY DO TALK ABOUT FOOD BEING SERVED, NO, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE HAVE FOOD IN THE ROOMS. WE HAVE A CENTRAL KITCHEN WHERE PEOPLE CAN PREPARE THEIR MEALS AND THERE'S A, A CENTRAL DINING ROOM, BUT WE DO NOT PROVIDE FOOD. THAT WAS A QUESTION WE'VE HAD BEFORE. UM, WE DO, FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE PEOPLE WHEN WE SUPPORT, UM, TREATMENT COURT. SO WE DO HAVE BEDS FOR TREATMENT COURT HERE IN TOWN. AND WE DO, FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR HOMES WHO ARE ON SOME SORT OF A PROBATION. UH, [00:30:01] THIS LEAVES US IN A POSITION WHERE PROBATION CAN STOP BY AT ANY TIME, UM, AND DO SEARCHES OF THE HOUSES, WHICH THEY DO ON A REGULAR BASIS. UM, KNOCK WOOD TO DATE, UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYONE BE FOUND WITH DRUGS IN THE HOMES THAT WE HAVE. UM, WE DO COOPERATE WITH PROBATION, UM, AND WE'LL REPORT THAT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN POSSESSION OF DRUGS IN THE HOUSE, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM ARRESTED. UM, WE ARE A PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND RECOVERY AGENCY. UM, IF SOMEONE HAS RELAPSED OUTSIDE OF THE HOME, WE DO GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THE FIRST OPTION IS TO GO INTO INPATIENT TREATMENT. WE WILL HELP THEM GET IN. WE WILL TAKE THEM THERE. IF THEY GET OUT OF TREATMENT AND THEY WANNA COME BACK, UM, AND WE HAVE THE BED, WE WILL ALLOW IT. ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR INPATIENT TREATMENT, THEY CAN ALSO GO TO OUTPATIENT INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT TREATMENT. USUALLY A MAT FORM OF TREATMENT, MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENT, UM, WHERE THEY'RE GETTING MEDICATION TO HELP THEM REMAIN IN RECOVERY. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT PROGRAM AND GO TO THE OUTPATIENT TREATMENT AND THE COUNSELING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE WITH THAT. UM, WE'VE, IN THE COURSE OF THE HOUSE, UM, SINCE WE'VE HAD THE HOUSES, WE'VE HAD 13 PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN IN ONE OF THE OTHER OF THOSE PLACES WHO'VE GONE ON TO GO TO TREATMENT AND DONE WHAT WE'VE ASKED. SOME OF THEM HAVE CHOSEN TO COME BACK TO THE HOUSE. SOME OF THEM HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO COME BACK TO THE HOUSE. UM, BUT WE TEST REGULARLY. IF PEOPLE IN THE BEGINNING, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUT AND STAY OUT OVERNIGHT FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS, THAT CAN'T HAPPEN AFTER THAT. THEY CAN ASK PERMISSION AHEAD OF TIME TO BE OUT. AND WHEN THEY COME BACK TO THE HOUSE, THEY WILL BE TESTED. WE USE MULTIPLE METHODS OF TESTING, UM, JUST TO BE SURE. WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO FINAGLE THE TEST. I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY. UM, UH, WE DO A LOT OF SUPPORT. WE HAVE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS, UM, WHO RUN THE HOUSES WHO'VE HAD TRAINING TO DO THAT, AND THEY SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS IN IT. WE ALSO HAVE A SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELOR WHO PROVIDE, OKAY, SORRY. WHO PROVIDES, UM, WHO PROVIDES COUNSELING TO THEM, BUT ALSO PSYCHOSOCIAL EDUCATION IN MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ATTEND. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY. OKAY. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION. I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE DO HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, I HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 NAMES. IF ANYBODY CAME IN AFTER THIS WAS COLLECTED AND WANT TO ADD YOUR NAME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW. UH, JASON TUCKER, YOU WERE NUMBER ONE. GOOD EVENING. UM, AGAIN, MY NAME'S JASON TUCKER. UH, PULL THE MIC UP CLOSE TO YOUR MOUTH, PLEASE. I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR 14 OR 12 YEARS. UM, I CURRENTLY LIVE AT THE LANDING. I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT A YEAR. UM, I STRUGGLED WITH ADDICTION FOR THE BETTER PART OF 20 YEARS. AND, UM, FORTUNATELY THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THIS HOUSE, UM, AND THE HELP AND ALL THE SUPPORT, UM, I'M NOW ALMOST TWO YEARS CLEAN. AND IT'S, UM, THE RIPPLE EFFECTS OF THIS PLACE, OF THIS TYPE OF HOUSING HAS BEEN AMAZING. UM, I CAME OUT OF JAIL WITH BARELY ANY FAMILY. NOBODY TRUSTED ME. UM, NOBODY WAS WILLING TO PUT ME TO WORK. UM, I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN MYSELF, BUT BECAUSE OF THIS PLACE AND ALLOWING ME TO FOCUS ON MYSELF AND GETTING THE HELP FROM THE, THE COUNSELORS AND, UH, THE, THE SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE WASN'T DRUGS OR ANY OF THAT, AND EVERYBODY KIND OF WORKED TOGETHER LIKE A FAMILY, UM, I WAS ABLE TO BUILD CONFIDENCE IN MYSELF. UM, NOW I, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN WHO I ADORE AND THEY SPEND EVERY DAY WITH ME. UM, I WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK. UM, AND IT'S, IT'S JUST, THIS IS WHAT THIS PLACE NEEDED. UM, AS, AS I SAID, I STRUGGLED FOR A LONG TIME HERE. AND HAVING THIS AS A, AS A SAFE PLACE IS LIKE RIPPLE EFFECTS FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, CHRISTOPHER RITENOUR. MY NAME'S CHRISTOPHER RITENOUR. I ALSO LIVE AT, UM, 5 0 1 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE OR SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE. I'M SORRY. AND I JUST WANNA REINFORCE WHAT JASON SAID. UM, I'VE STRUGGLED WITH ADDICTION FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS. UM, I'M CURRENTLY RESIDE AT THE HOUSE. I'VE BEEN CLEAN FOR A YEAR. I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB NOW. AND ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET AT A PLACE LIKE THIS IS REALLY, REALLY, IT'S REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL. UM, THEY, THEY'RE THERE TO SUPPORT, TO BE A FRIEND WHENEVER YOU NEED. UM, THEY HAVE A LADY THAT COMES AND SHE, UM, SHE'S A PSYCHOLOGIST OR WHATEVER, AND SHE, SHE TEACHES US ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE NEVER, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE [00:35:01] STUFF THAT THEY DON'T TEACH US IN SCHOOL. UM, THAT, THAT THEY SHOULD BE TEACHING US HOW TO DEAL WITH FEELINGS, EMOTIONS, UM, WHAT, WHAT FAMILY PROBLEMS. THERE'S, THERE'S SUPPORT FOR ALL THAT STUFF THERE. AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY A GOOD THING. UM, ALL OF YOU ALL SHOULD REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER THE GOOD THAT ALL THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING REBUILD FAMILIES. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. ANDREA O'BRIEN. HELLO, I'M ANDREA O'BRIEN. AND, UM, WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE. I STAY AT THE NEXT, UM, I CAME THERE AT THE END OF DECEMBER AND I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A HOME FOR MYSELF, GET A JOB. I HAVE, UM, SEVEN MONTHS CLEAN. I'VE DEALT WITH 20 YEARS OF BEING AN ADDICT, AND I AM FROM FOUR AND A HALF HOURS AWAY. AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE FRONT ROW IN MY HOME WITH HEATHER BEING MY PEER SUPPORT COUNSELOR, BEING ABLE TO GO TO HER AT ANY TIME. UM, OUR WEEKLY HOUSE, MEETING WITH THE, WITH THE THERAPIST, AND AS WELL AS MAKING MYSELF, UM, ACCOUNTABLE AS A PERSON AND BEING ABLE TO LIVE BACK IN SOCIETY. AND RECOVERY IS A BIG THING FOR ME NOW. AND I FEEL LIKE I GET, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE NEST AND THE LANDING, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I WOULD BE AT RIGHT NOW. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TIARA BAILEY. I AM TIARA BAILEY. I LIVE AT, UM, 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE. UM, I JUST GOT TO THE NEST. UH, I WAS TOLD TO GO THERE AS A TRANSITION FROM BEING INCARCERATED. I'M ALSO IN A TREATMENT PROGRAM THROUGH THE COURT. UM, NORMALLY BY NOW, IF I WOULD'VE JUST WENT BACK HOME. I'VE LIVED IN FARM ROYALS SINCE 2001, SO I'VE BEEN IN ACTIVE ADDICTION FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. I KNOW THAT IF I WOULD'VE NOT COME TO THE NEST OR THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE FOR ME, THEN MORE THAN LIKELY I WOULD BE BACK OUT IN ACTIVE ADDICTION. I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GO SOMEWHERE WHERE I HAVE INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT THERAPY. I HAVE, I HAVE DIFFERENT SUPPORT SYSTEMS. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE IN A MEETINGS IN TOWN NOW. JUST BEING AT THE NEST HAS OPENED UP FROM ROYAL IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FOR ME. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE URGE TO USE. I, I WANT OTHER PEOPLE THAT I KNOW NOT TO HAVE THE URGE TO USE AND KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLACE THAT THEY CAN COME, THAT THEY'RE SAFE. UM, I HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD AND HAVE A 1-YEAR-OLD THAT THEY COME VISIT ME THERE. UM, IT'S SO, IT'S SAFE THAT OTHER WOMEN ARE REALLY SUPPORTIVE. UM, IT'S JUST A LOT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW EXISTED ON THIS SIDE OF RECOVERY THAT FRONT ROYAL HAD. AND I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE SOBER ALSO. SO IF THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLACE THAT THEY COULD COME AND THEY CAN BE SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED IN TOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HEATHER ROLLINS. HI. I AM HEATHER ROLLINS, UH, 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, UH, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA. AND I WORK FOR THE WARREN COALITION, AND I'M A CERTIFIED PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST. AND I'M ALSO THE MANAGER OF THE NEST. AND I'M ALSO IN LONG-TERM RECOVERY. SO I STRUGGLED WITH ADDICTION FOR A LONG TIME, AND I COULD STOP USING, I JUST COULDN'T STAY STOPPED USING. AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE SO MANY TIMES AROUND HERE. IT'S WHAT NOW? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THESE GIRLS COME IN HERE AND OUR, AS PART OF OUR JOB, AS PART OF OUR LIKE LIFE, LIKE THESE PEOPLE BECOME OUR LIFE. LIKE, WE HELP THEM GET A JOB. WE HELP THEM GET DRIVER'S LICENSE. WE TAKE THEM TO AND FROM DOCTORS. UM, AND YOU GET TO SEE THE LIGHTS COME BACK ON THEIR EYES AND THEY FIND HOPE AND THEY FIND A PURPOSE. AND I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THIS. THANKS. THANK YOU. UH, JAMES FUNKHOUSER. I THINK THAT'S THE NAME. I CAN'T, I DON'T WRITE VERY NEAT . IT WAS TOO, IT WAS TOO SMALL OF A SPACE. THAT'S MY EXCUSE. UH, MY NAME IS JAMES FUNKHOUSER. I LIVE AT 5 0 1 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE. I'M A PERSON IN LONG-TERM RECOVERY. I'M A-P-R-S-I, AND I'M THE HOUSE MANAGER OF THE LANDING AND SUPERVISOR OF THE HOUSES. LIKE THIS IS, THIS IS MY FAMILY HERE, REALLY, GUY GETS ME CHOKED UP. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M PART OF SENDING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO TREATMENT FROM FRONT ROYAL, FROM RSW. AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED THAT JOB FOUR YEARS AGO, LIKE WE WERE SENDING 'EM TO TREATMENT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO WHEN THEY WERE DONE. SO THEY WERE JUST GOING BACK TO THE SAME OLD THING, SAME OLD PLACES. AND THEN I WAS VISITING 'EM AGAIN AT THE JAIL AND TRYING TO HELP 'EM AGAIN. YOU KNOW, TODAY, LIKE WE HAVE THESE, THESE FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSES [00:40:01] OPEN, THAT THESE MEN, WOMEN CAN COME AND BUILD A HOME AND BUILD A FAMILY AND, AND HAVE THEIR KIDS IN THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR LIVES. AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN ECHO EVERYTHING THESE PEOPLE SAY, HAVE SAID BEFORE ME, MS. KRISTA. UM, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR ALL SUPPORT OF THE OTHER HOUSES AND YOU HOPE THAT YOU'LL SUPPORT THIS ONE AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? EVERY, EVERY, EVERY NAME ON THIS LIST HAS BEEN CALLED. THAT WAS, THAT WAS CHRISTA. I WROTE THAT IN. UM, OKAY. UM, UM, LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, THAT, UH, I, I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, UM, ON THIS COMMISSION, THAT OUR HEARTS ARE TOTALLY WITH YOU. WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT AN ASSET YOU ARE TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND WE LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT OUR JOB AS PLANNING COMMISSION IS LIMITED TO LAND USE ISSUES. SO THE CONTENT OF YOUR WORK IS WE FULLY SUPPORT AND EVERYBODY AGREES IT'S A GREAT ASSET TO, TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE TO JUDGE ON BASIS OF LAND USE AND ZONING PRINCIPLES. SO, UM, UH, IF NOBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO? WELL, NO. LET'S HAVE OUR DISCUSSION AND THEN, UH, UH, WE NEED FIRST THE MOTION. MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL UNIT PER SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 5 0 0 0 7 2 FOR A LODGING HOUSE AT 5 0 6 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, THE APPLICANT SHALL INSTALL SIX PERMANENT PARKING SPACES AND ASSOCIATED PARKING LOT BUILT TO TOWN STANDARDS ON THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF USE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IS THERE A DISCUSSION? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HEART OF THIS AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PURPOSE AND GOAL OF A PLACE LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THERE'S A LOT OF APPRECIATION, ADMIRATION FOR THE WORK THAT GOES INTO IT. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE EFFECT ON THE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING AREA AND THE WELFARE OF THAT AREA, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UH, MAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE LIVING AT THIS HOUSE WILL ON PROBATION AND CAN, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, POLICE AT ANY TIME, UH, OR PAROLE OFFICERS, WHAT HAVE YOU. UH, BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERN WITH THERE NOT BEING ANY REGULAR FOLLOW UP. AND IT'S JUST A BLANKET OPEN, UH, SITUATION AS LONG AS THE PARKING IS THERE. AND WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD REMAINS, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED AND THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE. UM, I WONDER IF WE COULD ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ADDING A FOLLOW-UP CLAUSE WHERE PERHAPS THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, WARREN COL, UH, UH, COMMISSION, OR SORRY COALITION, UH, COULD INVITE STAFF TO CONFIRM THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT REG THE PROPER REGULATIONS ARE STILL BEING, UH, MAINTAINED OR PERHAPS INVITING, UH, THE, UH, TOWN POLICE EVERY SIX MONTHS, EVERY YEAR, WHAT HAVE YOU, TO, AGAIN, JUST TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE STILL RUNNING CLEANLY AND SMOOTHLY AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE NECESSARY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. THE PROBLEM I'D SEE WITH THAT MS. MARRAZZO, IS THAT THAT'S NOT LAND USE RELATED. IT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A PART OF THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND IT COULD THEN WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, BE UNDERSTOOD, I WOULD BELIEVE AS A, AS A PROPER CONDITION THAT WE COULD ADVISE OR ENCOURAGE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. THE, UH, THE COALITION'S BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS. IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY PROBLEM WITH PREVIOUS IN EARLIER YEARS, WE WOULD'VE HAD PEOPLE HERE TESTIFYING AND SPEAKING AGAINST THIS, PERHAPS, PERHAPS NOT. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE SOMETHING IS GONNA BE A DRAMATIC SITUATION OR POTENTIALLY DRAMATIC. I'M NOT MAKING ANY COMMENT ABOUT THE CURRENT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT APPLICATION HERE, UM, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NECESSARILY. RIGHT. SO I, I'M NOT, I AM NOT LOOKING AT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT RATHER JUST A PRECAUTIONARY, YOU KNOW, MEASURE TO, TO ASK FOR, TO JUST SAY, HEY, LET'S, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GONNA ADD THIS TO A COMMUNITY THAT HASN'T HAD THAT BEFORE, THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY, THAT THE, THE WELFARE OF THAT CITIZENRY WILL BE PROTECTED. SO YOU'RE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO MR. BROOK'S MOTION. UM, NOW PERHAPS, [00:45:01] I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DISCUSSIONARY ELEMENT DISCUSSION IF NO ONE ELSE AGREES. AND, YOU KNOW, I ALREADY KNOW WHERE THIS I DON'T, IS, BEFORE WE DISCUSS ANY FURTHER, I'D LIKE TO ASK LEGAL COUNSEL IF, IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR A, FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION MOTION TO ADD LANGUAGE LIKE THIS? YEAH. UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'M GONNA DEFER TO PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE MOMENT. THAT'S HAPPY WITH ME. OKAY. SO, UM, WITH THIS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE USE AS THE LODGING HOUSE IF THE USE IS NOT COMMENCED PROPERLY, AND IF THE, UM, THE USE ISN'T AN ISN'T, UM, I GUESS USED THE WAY WE'RE, IT'S INTENDED TO BE, THERE ARE, THERE IS A PROCESS. SO WE WOULD THEN BEGIN ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT COULD BE REVOKED. UM, SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE AND IT WOULD BE COMPLAINT BASED. SO TYPICALLY IF WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, THEN WE WOULD GO OUT THERE. UM, UM, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT OR IF THERE IS NOT, OR IF THERE, EVEN IF THERE WOULD BE A COMPLAINT, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY WITHOUT BEING INVITED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE FOR A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COMPLAINT. SO THAT WOULD BE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING, UM, INADEQUATE WITH THE FACILITY ITSELF. MM-HMM . UM, THE USE IS A LODGING HOUSE. SO IF THEY WERE TO USE THAT AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LODGING HOUSE, IF THIS WERE TO GET PERMITTED, THEN THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE REVOKED. UM, BUT YES, FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE WE WOULD NEED TO BE INVITED IN. OKAY. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CONCERNS. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PLUMBING OR THE STATUS OF THE HVAC , I'M JUST TALKING WELL, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY REGULATIONS OVERALL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THEY NOT BE FOLLOWED, I THINK WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. UH, SO IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS. MR. NEIL, I KIND OF LOOK AT IT WITH, UM, THERE'S, THEY HAVE A LOT BY YOUR, THEY HAVE A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM KIND OF BUILT IN BECAUSE THE, THEY HAVE COURT MONITORING, UM, UH, IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WE SENT OUT, THEY HAVE THE, THE, THE POLICE CAN GET INVOLVED. THEY DO REGULAR DRUG TESTING, THEY HAVE LOCKDOWN PROCEDURES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. UM, MERIT BASED PROMOTION THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THE FREEDOMS. AND, AND, UM, SO I I, I'M LESS CONCERNED A ABOUT THAT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE. UM, I, I WISH WE HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND, YOU KNOW, ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS. 'CAUSE I DO WONDER IT WOULD'VE BEEN STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POLICE HAD NEVER BEEN CALLED ON THEM. BUT I DO WONDER HOW MANY TIMES THEY HAD TO CALL AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THAT, UH, FREQUENCY MAY HAVE BEEN, BECAUSE THAT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT. AND I GUESS A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR DO THESE, DO THESE CHECKS GO THAT ARE INTERNAL? I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE IT. THAT PROBLEM FAR. WE CAN ASK HIM BACK UP. RIGHT. NOT DOING THIS PORTION, I DON'T THINK. NO. SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE WE MADE OUR MOTION. OKAY. THAT WAS WHAT I ATTEMPTED TO DO. UM, OKAY. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION. DO YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE DISCUSSION? DID YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION? YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? I, I MEAN, SOME OF IT IS A QUESTION BASED, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF THEY CAN OPERATE AS A REHAB, THERE ARE CERTAIN, THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE KEPT SO THAT THEY DON'T LOSE THEIR ABILITY MM-HMM . TO OPERATE AS A REHAB. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO KNOW. 'CAUSE THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, MARZANO'S. WELL, THERE WERE REFERENCES IN, IN, UH, MS. SHIFFLETT'S COMMENTS ABOUT BEING A CERTIFIED, UH, LOCATION. AND THAT, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE HOUSE THERE CAN'T BE SOME ARE LICENSED WITH. OKAY? SO THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE HOUSE ARE LICENSED WITH THE STATE. WE ARE NOT A REHAB FACILITY. SO WE ARE A RECOVERY HOUSE. YOU CAN GET CERTIFIED WITH A RECOVERY HOUSING AGENCY. WE ARE NOT, BUT WE FOLLOW WHAT THEY PUT OUT. SO WE'VE GOTTEN ALL OUR GUIDANCE WHEN WE PUT THE HOUSES UP, WE GOT THOSE THINGS IN PLACE, UM, THAT THEY ASK FOR MONEY ON SOME OF THOSE SIDES. WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT, BUT WE DID GET THE GUIDANCE FROM THE VIRGINIA'S VAR, VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF RECOVERY RESIDENTS AND [00:50:01] WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE TO DO THAT. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY, THEY'RE NOT THERE CONSTANTLY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND GO TO THE STORE AND GO TO THE DOCTOR. BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON SITE IN ALL OF THESE HOUSES. THEY ALSO HAVE EYES ON THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE HOUSES EVERY DAY. SO IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT SOMEONE IS ALTERED, THEY'RE GOING TO TEST THEM. AND THEN WHAT FOLLOWS FROM THERE FOLLOWS FROM THERE. UM, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE HOUSES HAVE BEEN WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN IN ACTIVE ADDICTION. THEY KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA COME IN THERE AND BE WITH THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE AND NOT HAVE THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALTERED. YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE JUST NOT. UM, AND WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE TAKE THE PREVENTION SIDE OF THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. THE COALITION WAS A PREVENTION AGENCY FIRST AND FOREMOST. UM, I WORK IN THE REGIONAL JAIL. I'VE WORKED THERE ALMOST 10 YEARS. I LOVE THESE PEOPLE. THE COURAGE THEY HAVE TO, THAT IT TAKES TO GET WELL FROM THE ILLNESS THEY HAVE IS STAGGERING. AND WE SUPPORT THEM. BUT I ALSO KNOW THEY HAVE TO WANT TO BE WELL. AND IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT, WE CAN'T KEEP THEM. I WANT THEM TO BE WELL, BUT I'M RESPONSIBLE TO EVERY PERSON IN THAT HOUSE. AND HAVING SOMEONE WHO'S ILL IN THAT HOUSE WILL MAKE EVERYONE ELSE FALL. THEY'RE ALL EQUAL. THEY ALL MATTER. AND IF YOU'RE ILL, YOU CAN'T STAY UNLESS YOU GO INTO ACTIVE TREATMENT AND YOU'RE ACTIVELY FOLLOWING IT. AND IF THAT FAILS, WE'RE GONNA PUT YOU OUT. I I WORK TO PREVENT DRUG USE IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO BE A PLACE WHERE THERE IS ACTIVE KNOWING DRUG USE GOING ON THAT ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOT. AND THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU. AND I, I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT DOING THIS FOR AN APARTMENT BUILDING, YOU WOULDN'T BE SAYING TO THEM, HEY, CAN WE COME IN AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT LETTING PEOPLE USE DRUGS IN YOUR APARTMENT BUILDING? BECAUSE TRUST ME, ON VIRGINIA AVENUE, THERE'S A PLACE OVER THERE. THEY GOT A LOT OF DRUGS BEING USED IN IT. UM, AND SO THESE PEOPLE WANT TO BE, WELL, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. THEY HAVE A RELAPSING ILLNESS. THAT'S THE TRUTH. OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK CLARIFYING STATEMENT THAT MY, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS HERE AND EVERYTHING, OR IN NO WAY A COMMENTARY ON THE MORAL CHARACTER OR THE GOALS OR THE, IN THE INTENTIONS AND EFFECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, OF THE COALITION. UH, I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE, FOR PLACES LIKE THIS FOR PEOPLE. UH, SO I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SAID HERE IS NOT A, YOU KNOW, COMMENT ON THE MORAL CHARACTER OF THE, UH, THE BUSINESS OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THOSE HOMES. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST ONE MORE THING, I JUST WANTED, JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COALITION TOO. WE HAD A QUESTIONNAIRE WE SENT OUT TO YOU GUYS AND YOU, YOU RESPONDED TO IT VERY QUICKLY. IT ADDRESSED SOME OF THIS THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT HERE AND, AND ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT AND BASICALLY THE COURT CERTIFICATION TO KEEP YOU, UM, IN SUPPORT OF YOUR OPERATION. AND, UM, I'LL, I'LL DO THE PLATITUDE OF THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS SORT OF WORK. AND I PERSONALLY VERY APPRECIATIVE 'CAUSE I I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS GOING THROUGH OTHER THINGS EVERYONE DOES IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY. FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS. MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? CHAIRMAN MARNER. YES. COMMISSIONER MARRAZZO? NO. VICE CHAIRMAN. NEIL? YES. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES. COMMISSIONER FEDERICA? YES. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES. UH, OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS NUMBER 25 0 0 1 0 0 A REQUEST. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SUBMITTED BY DAVINA MAGILLA ACADEMY FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED AT 16 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO OH A FIVE, SECTION 11 LOT 15, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE OLD TOWN HALL. THE PROPERTY IS ZONE C TWO DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR. MR. WARE, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? UH, WE DO. I JUST GO BACK TO THE, UH, [00:55:01] SINCE WE DO THESE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, UH, THINGS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER WITH SPECIAL USE PERMITS. I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THAT SPECIAL USE PERMITS MUST BE EVALUATED UNDER, UNDER REASONABLE STANDARDS AND BASED ON ZONING PRINCIPLES. UH, I THINK THAT'S A KEY ELEMENT, UH, FOR YOUR DECISIONS. UH, FOR THESE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, THEY HAVE TO BE BASED ON ZONING PRINCIPLES AND LAND USE APPLICATIONS. UH, TO JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, THOSE ARE THE MAIN STANDARDS. IT HAS TO BE BASED ON ZONING PRINCIPLES AND LAND USE APPLICATIONS. UH, SO OUR APPLICATION 25 0 0 7 2, UH, LET'S, WE'LL GO ON BACK. UH, THE NEXT ONE HERE. THAT WAS THE ONE PREVIOUSLY REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ANOTHER SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, 25 0 0 100. UH, THAT IS FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED AT 16 NORTHBOROUGH AVENUE. UH, IT IS, THE PROPERTY IS ZONE C TWO. IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR AND WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, INCLUDED IN YOUR APPLICATION. YOUR PACKET IS THE, UH, ZONING MAP, UH, STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, THE SUP APPLICATION AND AN IMPROVEMENT SURVEY OF THE PLAT, AGAIN, WITH A CHANGE OF USE. UH, TOWN CODE 1 75 1 0 4 REQUIRES ALL NEW USES OR DEVELOPMENTS IN CHANGE OF USE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 1 48. SO CURRENTLY, UH, SO WE'RE DOING A CHANGE OF USE, UH, TO A PRIVATE OR A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL UNDER 1 48 8 70. UH, SO THAT REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE PER EMPLOYEE, PLUS A PARKING SPACE FOR SCHOOL AUDITORIUMS AS NOTED ABOVE FOR AUDITORIUMS. THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE AUDITORIUM SECTION, IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE PER FOUR FIXED SEATS IN THE MAIN ASSEMBLY AREA, OR ONE PARKING SPACE PER 100 NET SQUARE FOOT OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT DETERMINES THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES. UH, THERE'S THE OVERALL VIEW OR THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. THE FORMER TOWN HALL. UH, THERE'RE AT 16 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, QUITE FAMILIAR LANDMARK HERE IN TOWN. THERE'S THE FRONT VIEW OF THE PROPERTY OR THE BUILDING AND A COUPLE VIEWS OF THE REAR. IT DOES HAVE LIMITED PARKING IN THE REAR, UH, BUT IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY, IS NOT SUFFICIENT CURRENTLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE USE. UH, THERE'S THE, UH, PLAT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SHOWING THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING AREA. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING. SO THEY WANT TO USE THAT AS A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMITS, WHICH IS, UH, IF GRANTED IS ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT. UH, BUT THE ONSITE PARKING, THEY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ONSITE PARKING FOR THAT LOT. HOWEVER, UH, TOWN CODE DOES ALLOW 1 48, 8 70 A FOUR, THAT OFF STREET PARKING AREAS SHALL BE ORIENTED TO THE BUILDING. THEY ARE DESIGNED TO SERVE AND SHALL BE WITHIN 300 FOOT WALKING DISTANCE, UH, BEFORE OFF STREET PARKING OR OFFSITE PARKING FACILITIES ARE APPROVED. A WRITTEN AGREEMENT THERETO ASSURING THE RETENTION OF SUCH PURPOSES SHALL BE PROPERLY DRAWN AND EXECUTED BY THE PARTY'S CONCERNED AND APPROVED TO, AND AS APPROVED TO FORM BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR COMPLIANCE AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CHAPTER. SO WHEN, UH, WITH THESE SPECIAL USE PERMITS OR WITHIN THE PARKING CODE, WHEN A BUSINESS CANNOT MEET ONSITE PARKING, WE DO HAVE AN AVENUE IN THE CODE OF 1 48, 8 78 4 TO ALLOW OFFSITE PARKING WITH AGREEMENT. SO THEY CAN'T, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS WITH A WRITTEN AGREEMENT TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? SO THIS IS A LAND USE APPLICATION. YOU WOULD NEED TO DETERMINE IS THIS USE APPROPRIATE BASED ON LAND USE? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. THANK YOU. MR. WARE. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND DOES SHE WISH TO SPEAK? PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU. DIANE EDKEY, I RESIDE AT THREE 11 LARAY AVENUE IN FRONT ROYAL, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNCIL. UM, I AM THE FOUNDER OF DIVIN AUXILIUM FAMILY OF SCHOOLS. [01:00:01] I'VE LIVED IN FRONT ROYAL FOR JUST ABOUT 30 YEARS. THIS TOWN IS MY FAMILY'S HOME, AND WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE LIVED, WORKED AND RAISED OUR CHILDREN HERE. UH, OUR FIRST ACADEMY, UH, IS ON BROWNTOWN ROAD. IT'S 62 94. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW IT'S DR. DAL'S FORMER PRACTICE. WE STARTED THERE 13 YEARS AGO, AND, UH, THAT IS CURRENTLY OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE SERVE PRE-K THROUGH SIXTH GRADE AT THAT CAMPUS. UM, IN 2018, WE OPENED ST. EINE SCHOOL FOR GIRLS. UH, WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE PURCHASED BON AIR, ANOTHER VERY WELL KNOWN OLD BUILDING ON LE RAY AVENUE AT 1 24. UM, THAT SCHOOL SERVES GIRLS GRADES SEVENTH THROUGH 12TH. UM, AND NOW WE HAVE ST. JOSEPH, THE JUST SCHOOL FOR BOYS. UH, CURRENTLY IT IS SERVING BOYS GRADE SEVENTH THROUGH 11TH. UM, WE LAUNCHED THAT SCHOOL THREE YEARS AGO. IT'S CURRENTLY BEING HOUSED IN A PARISH BUILDING, UM, AND WE ARE SEEKING ITS PERMANENT HOME. SO THIS IS THE PURPOSE, UM, IS FOR THIS BOYS' SCHOOL. UM, FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. ADDITIONALLY, WE CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THE PLACES OUR CHILDREN SPEND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR DAYS. AND THESE THREE BUILDINGS, DR. DANIEL'S PRACTICE ON BROWNTOWN ROAD, BON AIR ON LERAY AVENUE, AND NOW POTENTIALLY THE OLD TOWN HALL ON NORTH ROYAL AVENUE. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF THE STORY OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE MEANT SO MUCH TO OUR TOWN OVER SO MANY YEARS AS CONCERNS. THE OLD TOWN HALL, THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, AS YOU WELL KNOW, ITS STORY, WAS BUILT IN THE 1930S AS PART OF A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT, ALONG WITH THE WARREN COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. IT WAS PART OF A REVITALIZATION PROJECT FOLLOWING THE GREAT DEPRESSION AFTER SITTING VACANT FOR SOME TIME, WE SEEK TO RETURN THIS BUILDING TO SOME NOBLE PURPOSE. NOT ONLY WILL IT BE USED FOR THE FORMATION OF YOUNG MINDS AND HEARTS, BUT WE PLAN TO CARE FOR IT AND PRESERVE IT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING THE BUILDING'S INTEGRITY AS AN HISTORIC SITE AND PLAN TO PURSUE GRANTS AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CARE FOR IT WITH THE DIGNITY THAT IT DESERVES. WE ARE ALSO AWARE OF THE PRECEDENT OF THE TOWN'S ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS TO INCLUDE SCHOOLS AS A CENTRAL FEATURE OF ITS CORRIDOR. AND THUS BELIEVE THIS USE ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT AND VISION FOR OUR TOWN. UM, AS CONCERNS THE UM, STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT THE HEALTH AND THE SAFETY AND THE WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO US AS WELL. UM, THUS WE WANNA ASSURE THE TOWN THAT WE REMAIN ENTIRELY OPEN TO ALIGNING OUR PLANS TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS OF THE TOWN. IN CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROJECT, UM, WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED AN ADDENDUM TO THE STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION ADDRESSING VARIOUS POSSIBILITIES FOR THE TOWN TO CONSIDER CONCERNING TRAFFIC FLOW. THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT CAME UP IN THE WORK SESSION. UM, AND I AM HERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD WISH TO DISCUSS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WELL, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT WHILE SHE'S HERE? YEP. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS HERE. OKAY. I I'M SORRY. CAN I, DO I GET BACK UP HERE FOR A SECOND? I'M SORRY, MY CHAIR SANK AND I WAS TRYING TO SAVE IT. . JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, HOW THE STUDENT, UM, PICK AND DROP OFF WILL BE HANDLED. UM, CROSSWALKS AND INTERACTION WITH PARKING. YES. DID YOU RECEIVE THE ADDENDA THAT I SENT? I WENT, I PROVIDED THREE SCENARIOS IN THAT, UM, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST BECAUSE WE TALKING ABOUT, SO WE HAVE, UM, THE ONE, THE ONE I INCLUDED A MAP IN WHAT I SENT, AND THAT MIGHT BE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, I HAVE A COPY OF IT. NO, I HAVE IT DOWN HERE. YOU DO? OKAY. JUST WANTED, UM, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO THE PARKING SPACE THAT, UM, MR. WARE REFERRED TO THAT WE ARE LEASING FROM ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST CHURCH DOES HAVE, UM, ALONG MADDOX LANE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT I PRESENTED THAT WE COULD HAVE FAMILIES DRIVE DOWN THAT LANE. IT'S A ONE-WAY LANE TURN INTO THAT PARKING LOT, AND THERE'S ALSO AN EXIT FROM THAT PARKING LOT. SO THE STUDENTS COULD BE DROPPED OFF IN THAT PARKING WALK THROUGH THE, UM, COMMUNITY PARKING AREA THAT IS BETWEEN MADDOX FUNERAL HOME AND, UM, FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH. AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS STAFF THAT CROSSWALK WITH ADULTS AT BOTH OF THOSE TIMES OF THE DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE CROSSING [01:05:01] THAT ALLEYWAY. IS THAT UNION? I THINK THAT'S UNION, UM, SAFELY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OLDER STUDENTS SEVENTH THROUGH 12TH GRADE. UM, BUT WE WOULD STILL COMMIT TO A NUMBER OF ADULTS WHO WOULD BE OUT DURING THOSE TIMES, MAKING SURE THAT STUDENTS WERE WALKING SAFELY. OKAY. SO THAT WAS ONE SCENARIO. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER TWO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST BRIEFLY. OKAY. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. UM, SCENARIO TWO ESSENTIALLY INVOLVES, WE HAVE THE, UM, THE PARTNERING GIRLS SCHOOL DOWN THE ROAD AT 1 24 LORE AVENUE. THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR FAMILIES, UM, THEY HAVE SIBLINGS IN BOTH SCHOOLS. WE HAVE ALREADY AN EFFECTIVE DROP OFF PICKUP PROCEDURE THERE. SO WE HAD CONSIDERED THAT, UM, WE COULD HAVE THE BOYS BE DROPPED OFF THERE AND WALK TO SCHOOL. WE WOULD ADJUST THE TIMING OF THE START AND CLOSE OF OUR DAY ACCORDINGLY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LONGER WALK, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A LONG WALK. SO THEY WOULD WALK DOWN LARAY AVENUE, CROSSOVER WEST MAIN STREET, AND THEN STRAIGHT TO THE CAMPUS FROM THERE. THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER POSSIBILITY THAT WE USE THE OTHER CAMPUS FOR COMING AND GOING. UM, AND THEN THE THIRD SCENARIO WAS, UM, COMING DOWN THE ONE WAY SYSTEM. THERE WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD PICTURE OF IT, BUT GOING TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, UM, DO YOU HAVE THAT PICTURE OF THE BACK OF THE, THAT RIGHT THERE? YES. SO OF COURSE Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH UNION. UM, WE COULD ALSO PROPOSE A STAGGERED DROP OFF AND PICK UP TIME WITH OUR FAMILIES SUCH THAT MAYBE THERE WERE ONLY TWO OR THREE CARS ALLOWED IN KIND OF A U SHAPE AND THEN COMING IN ONE WAY AND ENTERING OUT THAT WAY. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAD CONSIDERED. UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED. YOU'RE DEALING WITH, UH, AS I EXPLAINED IN THE DOCUMENT, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A STAGGERED SCHEDULE. I GAVE SOME DETAILS ABOUT HOW EXACTLY WE WOULD APPROACH THAT. UM, IF THERE EVER WERE TO BE A BACKUP, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WANNA PREVENT THAT FROM EVER HAPPENING. FAMILIES WOULD BE TOLD THAT THEY JUST HAVE TO KEEP CIRCLING THE BLOCK UNTIL THAT TIME IS FREE. 'CAUSE OF COURSE, ALL OF YOUR PERFECT PLANS FOR STAGGERING A SCHEDULE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FAMILIES WHO ARE LATE, FAMILIES WHO ARE EARLY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE QUANTITY OF KIDS? SO WE EXPECT TO HAVE ABOUT 25 STUDENTS NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN TERMS OF PARKING SPACES AND, AND ALL OF THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. OKAY. OPTIONS OPTION C MIGHT WORK WELL WHEN SOMEBODY, THESE ARE BOYS AFTER ALL. YES. INEVITABLY BREAKS AN ANKLE OR IS ON CRUSHES AND THEY COULD GET DROPPED OFF AT THE BACK DOOR. YEAH, WE, WE TESTED IT. WE ACTUALLY TESTED IT WITH A COUPLE OF VEHICLES AND IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WOULD WORK VERY SMOOTHLY. UM, AND OUR FAMILIES IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO, UM, TINKERING WITH THE DROP OFF IN PROCEDURES THAT WE'VE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED AT, AT 1 24 LERAY, WE HAD TO WORK WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY RECEPTIVE TO THAT AND, AND OBEDIENT TO WHAT WE NEEDED. SO, UM, YEAH, SO WE TESTED IT WITH ABOUT THREE VEHICLES AND IT SEEMED TO, IT SEEMED TO WORK WELL, JUST KIND OF SLIDING IN THERE AT A KIND OF A U ARC AND THEN GOING BACK OUT IN THAT ONE WAY SYSTEM. SO EITHER OF THOSE WOULD BE OPTIONS FOR THE TOWN TO CONSIDER. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THERESA, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SIT DOWN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL MAYBE SEATED GUYS. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, OKAY. UM, UH, THERE IS, UM, I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SOMEBODY IS SIGNED UP. MR. ANDREW HILL IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IS ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP WHO NOT SIGNED UP, WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC? OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS ANDREW HILL. I RESIDE AT 1 2 4 5 KENDRICK FORD ROAD IN THE COUNTY. I'M ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER IN TOWN. UH, MY BUSINESS IS AT 25 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE, UH, SITE HERE. I'M NOT AN UNBIASED, UH, SPEAKER. MY, UH, SEVEN OF MY CHILDREN ATTEND THE DIVIN AUXILIAN FAMILY OF SCHOOLS, INCLUDING A ONE, UH, AT ST. JOSEPH. JUST, UH, BUT THAT ASIDE, I AM AS A, AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND A COMMITTED, UH, MEMBER OF THE FRONT ROW COMMUNITY, I AM, UH, STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION HERE. UM, I THINK SEEING THE OLD TOWN HALL BUILDING WITH THE HISTORY THAT IT HAS BEING PUT TO GOOD USE AGAIN, UH, WEIGHS HEAVILY ON MY MIND AS, AS SOMEBODY WHO VALUES GOOD USE OF PROPERTY AND, AND CERTAINLY GOOD USE OF HISTORIC PROPERTY. SO, TO, TO SEE A BUILDING THAT HAS, UH, SAT VACANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND, AND HAS NOT BEEN USED AS WELL AS IT SHOULD TO, TO SEE THAT BEING PUT TO GOOD USE AGAIN, I THINK WOULD, WOULD DO OUR TOWN A LOT OF GOOD. UM, THE TOWN WHICH HAS [01:10:01] MANY OTHER BUILDINGS WHICH ARE NOT BEING PUT TO GOOD USE. UM, I THINK TO HAVE ONE IN, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT, UM, IT CAN BE KIND OF RESTORED TO SOME SEMBLANCE OF A FORMER GLORY, I THINK IS, IS, UH, SOMETHING I HOPE THAT WOULD WEIGH PRETTY HEAVILY IN YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE MAY BEGIN. MADAM CHAIR, CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2 5 0 0 1 0 0 FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED AT 16 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE CONDITIONED ON THE FOLLOWING, THE PROVISION OF OFF STREET PARKING AREAS, WHICH SHALL BE ORIENTED TO THE BUILDINGS THEY ARE SERVING, AND WITHIN 300 FEET WALKING DISTANCE WITH A WRITTEN AGREEMENT THERE TO ASSURING THEIR RETENTION FOR SUCH PURPOSES, SHALL THE PROPERTY BE DRAWN AND EXECUTED BY THE PARTIES CONCERNED AND APPROVED TO FORM BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF THE USE. AND A VALID WRITTEN OFFSITE PARKING AGREEMENT SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE DURATION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND THE SECOND CONDITION IS, UM, THAT A STAGGERED PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIME BE USED FOR STUDENTS. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND DISCUSSION? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, REVIEW, COMMISSIONER NEIL. UM, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, UH, THE PARKING AREA SHALL BE ORIENTED TO THE BUILDINGS THEY'RE SERVING, CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? HAVING, HAVING TO DO WITH THE, THE, UH, RELATIVE POSITION OF THE PARKING TO THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE STANDING WITHIN THE NUMBER OF FEET. I SEE. OKAY. UM, AND THE, UH, REQUIRING THE, THE STAGGERED DROP OFF VERSUS THE, VERSUS THE OTHERS. UM, CAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? YOUR REASONING THERE, JUST, JUST FOR SAKE OF SAFETY IS MM-HMM . WHAT THE REQUESTING IS THE STAGGERED DROP OFF. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT BEING NEEDED IF THE PLAN A, I THINK IT WAS THAT THE KIDS BE DROPPED OFF AT BON AIR AND THEN WALK, IS THE STAGGERED DROP OFF STILL USED SINCE THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS? THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS AND ALL THAT WENT INTO IT. YEAH. UM, THE FIRST ONE, I'M ASSUMING WAS THE PREFERRED OPTION SINCE IT WAS MENTIONED FIRST OF HAVING THE LADS WALK A FEW BLOCKS. THAT WAS THE SECOND ONE. THE SECOND, THE FIRST ONE WAS HAVING THEM GO THROUGH THE ONE WAY IN THE BACK ONTO MAIN STREET FROM THERE. BUT, UM, AND THEN THE SECOND WAS, YEAH, GOING, GOING DOWN THE STREET, UM, WITH THIS, WITH THE STAGGERED VERSUS THE, THEIR PREFERRED. HOWEVER, I MEAN, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THERE'S, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING ALL OF 25 STUDENTS. IT'S A PRETTY LIGHT AMOUNT OF EFFECT ON ANYTHING. IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THAT SECOND CONDITION, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, THAT THIS APPLICATION PRESENTS. OKAY. WHAT IS THE CONCERN IF THERE IS NO STAGGERED DROP OFF? IS IT THE OBSTRUCTION OF TRAFFIC POTENTIALLY ON THAT STREET? YES. OBSTRUCTION OF TRAFFIC AND SAY JUST SAFETY OF THE KIDS THAT, THAT COMES ACROSS. THAT WAS THE CONCERN AT THE TIME. I'M I'LL, I'LL BE FLEXIBLE. , UH, MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S, UM, INTEREST BY A COMMISSIONER TO REMOVE THE SECOND CONDITION THAT, THAT WOULD INVOLVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND. RIGHT, RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THREE CONDITIONS THERE. NO, IT'S, WELL, IT'S, IT'S PART, REALLY THIS IS PART OF THE FIRST, IF I MAY, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THERE IS A MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED AND, AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR CURRENTLY. SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, HERE I CAN AMEND THE MOTION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THEN I'LL, I'LL AMEND THE MOTION TO READ. I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2 5 0 0 1 0 0 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED AT 16 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE CONDITION ON THE FOLLOWING, THE PROVISION OF OFF STREET PARKING AREAS, WHICH SHALL BE ORIENTED TO THE BUILDINGS THEY'RE SERVING. AND WITHIN THE 300 FEET WALKING DISTANCE WITHIN A WRITTEN AGREEMENT THERETO ASSURING THAT THE RETENTION FOR SUCH PURPOSES SHALL BE PROPERLY DRAWN AND EXECUTED BY PARTIES CONCERNED AND APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF THE USE. AND A VALID WRITTEN OFFSITE PARKING AGREEMENT SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE DURATION OF THE PERMIT. PERIOD. END OF MOTION. END OF MOTION. OKAY. UH, DO WE NEED TO RE SECOND? I SECOND. [01:15:01] OKAY. NOW WE DISCUSS THE NEW MOTION, THE SIMPLIFIED, THE NEW AND SIMPLIFIED MOTION, THE STAGGERED PARKING. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. UM, YOU'RE TAKING NOTES THERE. DID YOU WANNA MAKE SOME, MAKE SOME REMARKS THERE? UH, NO. OKAY. OKAY. MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER MARRAZZO? YES. CHAIRMAN MARNER? YES. COMMISSIONER FEDERICA? YES. VICE CHAIRMAN NEIL? YES. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UH, WE NOW MOVE ON [VIII. COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS] TO COMMISSIONER MEMBER REPORTS. DO ANY MEMBERS HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REPORT ON? DIDN'T SOMEBODY COMPLETE TRAINING SINCE THE LAST MEETING? YOU SHOULD REPORT THAT YOU'VE COMPLETED YOUR TRAINING. YEAH, YEAH. UM, I, UH, HAD TWO SESSIONS OF TRAINING DOWN IN, UH, RICHMOND. UH, SO AS OF NOW, OR AS OF THEN RATHER I SUPPOSE, UH, OFFICIALLY TRAINED, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING. WELCOME TO BEING CERTIFIED . UH, DOES THE, UH, ANY OTHER MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER? I, I'LL JUST MENTION WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS COMING UP. ONE WITH THE BRIDGE OF HOPE OF WARREN COUNTY AND ONE WITH THE HARVEST MISSIONS OUTREACH CENTER HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, SPECIAL PURPOSE HOUSING AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND, UH, ONE'S TOMORROW AND ONE'S NEXT WEEK ON THE 22ND. OKAY. OKAY. UH, UM, AND OUR NEXT WORK SESSION, WE HAVE A SPECIAL SPEAKER AS WELL. YES, YES, YES, WE DO. OKAY. WHO, WHO WILL BE ADDRESSING, GO AHEAD AND TELL US ABOUT THAT ONE. UM, UH, MY SISTER-IN-LAW, KATIE FEDERICA, HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, UM, UH, ADULTS AS WELL AS CHILDREN, AND, UM, HAS WORKED IN, IN SPECIAL NEED HOUSING ENVIRONMENTS. SO SHE MAY HAVE AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE FROM A, FROM A, THE RECIPIENT OF, OF THE HOUSING. OKAY. AND THAT'LL BE AT OUR WORK SESSION? AT OUR WORK SESSION ON MAY THE SEVENTH. SEVENTH, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. [IX. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT] PLANNING REPORT. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT. OKAY. SO FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAD 223 WALK-INS. WE ISSUED 25 NEW ZONING PERMITS, 16 BUSINESS LICENSES. UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT CONDUCTED 26 INSPECTIONS AND OPENED UP 14 NEW CASES. UM, AND THEN A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, THE SPECIAL HOUSING. UM, WE'RE HAVING THOSE MEETINGS, BUT WE HAVE COMPLETED THE REVIEW OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTIONS OF THE DRAFT. UH, STAFF IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO, UM, REVIEW THOSE CHANGES, COMPILE THOSE IN A DOCUMENT, AND THEN THE NEXT PORTION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE USES AND THE ZONES. SO FOR THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FACILITATE IT, UM, SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO GET SOME INITIAL INPUT, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, ON USES AND THE APPROPRIATENESS OF OUR EXISTING ZONES. SO THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING. UM, AND THAT IS EVERYTHING I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE IT MYSELF, THEN I MOVE TO ADJOURN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ALL, UH, MR. NEIL, ALL IN FAVOR? YES. AYE, THANK YOU. THE MEETING IS ENDED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.