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CALL THE ORDER THE BOARD OF OUR COUNCIL ARCHITECTURAL[Board of Architectural Review on March 11, 2025.]
REVIEW FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11TH, 2 25.THE AGENDA SAYS, OH, I SUCKED
NOT EVEN THINKING IT WAS FEBRUARY RESCHEDULED.
DOES EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTE MY LAST YES.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM AND I'LL SECOND, I WAS NOT HERE, SO I HAVE TO YEAH.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON EM AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND YOU MOVED AND MS. NASH SECOND.
NEW BUSINESS, UM, APPLICATION 6 91 COA APPLICATION 24 0 0 6 9 1 CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS, UH, TO REIN A LOG CABIN AND POSSIBLE REPLACEMENT OF ANY DAMAGE LOGS DEPENDING ON THE CONDITION.
AT 1 23 CHESTER STREET IDENTIFIED TAX MAP, 2088 DASH TWO LOT FOUR B.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C TWO.
IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND OBVIOUSLY LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC OVERLAKE DISTRICT.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UH, LOCATION, THERE'S A OVERALL VIEW FROM THE COUNTY GIS OF THIS STRUCTURE.
THEY'RE FRONTING ON CHESTER STREET AND SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
UH, SO YOU WITHIN THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS STRUCTURE.
UH, SO THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE REINING OF THE LOGS AND POSSIBLE REPLACEMENT OF THE LOGS.
UH, THOSE THAT MAY BE DAMAGED.
UH, THE BUILDING WAS, UH, CONSTRUCTED, WE BELIEVE, UH, AROUND 1800.
IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
THE HOUSE WAS MOVED, UH, FROM ABOUT 1920, WE BELIEVE, BELIEVE FROM ACROSS THE STREET AND WAS RENOVATED IN 1979.
UH, SO THERE'S SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF, UH, SOME OF THE DAMAGED, UH, EXISTING OF THE CHINKING AND THE LOGS THAT ARE PRESENT ON THE BUILDING.
AND THE APPLICANT DID, UH, SEND A VERY DETAILED, UH, INFORMATION ON, UH, THE CONDITION OF THE LOGS, UH, NUMBERED THEM WITH AN EXPLANATION ON THEM AND THE APPROACH, UH, WITH THE CHINKING AND THE RENOVATION THAT NEEDED TO BE WITH THAT.
SO THEY DID NUMBER THE LOGS THERE FOR PART OF YOUR EXPLANATION OF HOW THEY'RE, UH, PLANNING ON DOING THAT.
UH, I THINK THREE PAGES OF THAT WITH EACH OF THE LOGS OUTLINED THERE.
MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE, UH, PATCH AND REPAIR, UH, WITH THE CHINKING.
UH, THAT, UH, ANOTHER PAGE OF THE EVERYTHING, UM, THAT THEY'RE, UH, POTENTIALLY GONNA HAVE TO DO WORK ON.
UM, MAJORITY OF THE WORK IS COSMETIC WORK, BUT IT DOES, UH, IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE BAR TO, UH, REVIEW THIS.
UH, THEY DID GAVE A LETTER FROM THE FIRM THAT IS DOING THE WORK AND, UH, THEIR HISTORY ABOUT REDOING THESE TYPE OF STRUCTURES.
UH, THAT WAS PART OF YOUR APPLICATION FOR REVIEW, AND THEY DID INCLUDE THE RECIPE, UH, FOR THE CHINKING.
UH, UH, CHINKING WILL BE NINE PARTS BUILDER SAND, TWO PARTS HYDRATED LIME AND TWO AND A HALF PARTS PORTLAND CEMENT CEMENT, AND THEY'LL ADD FIBERGLASS, UH, TO THE MIXING OF THE WATER TO STRENGTH, SIMILAR TO THE ANIMAL HAIR THAT WAS USED ORIGINALLY IN THE CHINKING.
UH, SO AT THIS POINT, THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO REPLACE A LOG, BUT THEY MAY HAVE TO REPLACE A LOG, UH, OR THOSE ARE DAMAGED.
ONCE THEY GET IN AND START REMOVING THE CHINKING AND PUTTING NEW CHINKING IN, THEY'LL RE WILL REEVALUATE EACH OF THOSE IN THE PROCESS.
UH, SO THEY MAY BE SOME, UH, REMOVAL OF THE LOGS THAT ARE THERE, UH, AND REPLACED.
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IT'S KIND OF SELF-EXPLANATORY.THEY DID LIST THE LOGS, UH, WITH THAT AND THE LETTER FROM THE FIRM THAT'S DOING THE WORK.
BUT STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE WITH THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE, UH, FOR, FOR THE BAR TO HAVE THEIR INPUT, ESPECIALLY ON THE, UH, CHINKING MATERIAL AND THE POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THE LOG AND HOW THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE REPLACED.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? THIS IS JUST LOG REPAIR, CHANGE REPAIR, NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE WINDOWS, DOORS, ROOF, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? CORRECT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL LOG.
THEY'RE DOING DUSTING REPAIR, EPOXY REPAIRS.
IT SAYS HERE THEY'RE COUGH AROUND THE WINDOWS, POTENTIALLY TREATING EVERYTHING WITH FORECAST THAT, UM, I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE YOU SAID, PRETTY KEPT DRY.
I MEAN, IF THE APPLICANT WANTS YOU, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, HE, UH, HE IS HERE.
UH, TO GIVE YOU ANY MORE DETAILS IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN COME UP HERE AND STAND PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD.
AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME IF YOU WOULD FOR THE RECORD.
BILL ACK WITH LIBERTY C JUST OWNER BUILDING.
UM, YOU FOUND THIS IS A LOCAL FIRM YOU'RE DEALING WITH? UH, NO, ACTUALLY THEY ARE OUT OF, UM, MONTEREY, VIRGINIA.
IT IS TAKEN ME QUITE A FEW YEARS TO FIND SURVEY THAT'S REALLY TO WORK ON THIS.
MOST OF THE FIRMS I'VE CALLED, UH, THEY WORK ON THE MODERN LOGS AND THEY DO ALL OF, ALL OF THE MODERN PLEXIGLASS C***K.
NOT PLEXIGLASS, BUT, UM, WHATEVER THAT MODERN CHECKING IS, AND THEY JUST, THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO, UM, ANYHOW, THAT, THAT'S WHY HE'S, HE'S FROM MONTEREY.
HE WOULD BE, UH, HE WOULD BE LIVING UP HERE ON SITE PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH, HE SAID TO, UH, TO DO THAT WORK.
AND WE'D HAVE SCAFFOLDING OUT, YOU KNOW, SHIFTING AROUND THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING AS IT AS HE GOES.
UM, JUST TAKING OUT ALL THE OLD CHINKING, GOING BACK TO, HE SAID THERE'S PROBABLY MIDDLE LAID BACK ABOUT THE CENTER, SO HE DOESN'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON TAKING OUT THE INTERIOR CHINKING.
UH, AND THEN JUST WHILE HE'S GOT IT OUT, ANY OF THE LAWS THAT NEED TO BE, UH, HE CALLS IT DEBUNKING, WHICH MEANS TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF THE ROD OFF.
HE WOULD DO THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S BADLY ENOUGH, WHICH HE DIDN'T IN, IN HIS INITIAL SURVEY.
THE, THE ONE PHOTO OF THAT LOG THAT, THAT YOU SAW, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORST ONE.
UH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE WROTE, UM, YEAH, EVEN IF HE SAID THAT ONE MIGHT HAVE TO COME OUT, IT JUST DEPENDS A ON WHAT HE FINDS, WHAT HE PULLS INTO IT.
UM, AND A QUESTION ABOUT THAT LOG.
UH, I SKIMMED A LETTER QUICKLY.
DID THEY INDICATE THAT THEY HAD TO REPLACE ONE OF THE ACTUAL LOGS? DID THEY INDICATE WHAT THEY WOULD REPLACE IT WITH? DID THEY NOTICE
SO HE SAID HE CAN'T MATCH LIKE TO THE EXACT YEAR OR ANYTHING, BUT HE SAID IT WOULD BE, IF ANY LOG NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, IT WOULD BE FROM AN 18 HUNDREDS.
I APPRECIATE THE QUALITY OF THE MATERIALS THEY'RE PLANNING TO USE FOR THE CHANGING MM-HMM
THAT'S, UM, DOES YOU MEAN THE RECIPE THAT HE HAD UP THERE? YEAH.
IT'S KIND OF A FASCINATING THING.
I, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE I DID HAVE, LIKE I SAID, A FEW COMPANIES OUT AND THEY SAY IN THE MODERN LOGS IT'S ALMOST MORE OF LIKE A, A PUTTY OR SOMETHING THAT THEY PUT IN THERE.
IT JUST WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE THERE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, HE CALLS IT A RECIPE THAT HE LEARNED FROM WHEREVER HE OH, GUYS, THAT'S GREAT.
NO, I THINK THIS IS, THAT'S A PERFECT, IN MY OPINION, WAS THERE ONE WINDOW THAT MAY BE CRACKED? DID I SEE THAT IN THE APPLICATION? THERE WAS AN INSPECTION OF A WINDOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A CRACK? I THOUGHT THERE, I MEAN THERE IS ONE WINDOW PANE YEAH.
ON, ON THE SIDE WINDOWS THAT IS CRACKED.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ORIGINAL GLASS OR NOT, BUT I, HE'S NOT PLANNING ON DOING ANYTHING WITH THE WINDOWS AT THIS POINT.
WE COULD HAVE THAT REPLACED, BUT, UM,
I KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE FRONT WINDOWS, I'M PRETTY SURE ARE ORIGINAL BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THAT WEIGHTINESS, BUT THE ONE THAT'S CRACKED, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S OKAY AT THIS POINT.
IT'S NOT, IT, WE DON'T PLAN TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
IT SAYS A ADDRESS WINDOW AND DOOR TRIM AND SECURE BETTER WITH TRIM, SCREW SCREWS, REPAIR
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OXY.UM, SO YOU'RE NOT SWAPPING OUT TRIM, YOU'RE JUST REATTACHING IT? NO, JUST REATTACHING IT.
NOTHING TO CHANGE ANYTHING THERE AND, AND ALL ABOUT WOOD SEEMS TO BE IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE, SO SEEM REASON.
IT SAYS HERE YOU IS GONNA TEMPORARILY COVER THE WINDOWS WITH PLYWOOD DURING THE CHANGING.
UM, ON THIS ONE, UM, I DIDN'T SEE, CAN YOU GO BACK ON THE SCREEN TO THE, SO I CAN SEE THE APPLICATION NUMBER SIX? NOPE.
WHICH HIS SCHEDULE LOOKING LIKE FOR THIS, UH,
I MEAN, HE ORIGINALLY TOLD ME HE'D LIKE TO START IT, UH, IN APRIL, BUT THEN WHEN THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED HIM, HE SAID HIS LAST PROJECT IS RUNNING LATE, SO IT MIGHT PUSH A LITTLE LATER INTO THE SUMMER.
BUT I, FROM EVERYTHING HE'S TOLD ME HE PLANS TO DO IT THIS SUMMER AND IT WOULD BE FINISHED BY THE, SOMETIME IN THE FALL, THE LATEST.
SO APRIL MAY START AND THAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING FOR, BUT, UM, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF IT GETS PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT BASED ON HIS SCHEDULE.
UM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAD A WORK SESSION BEFORE THIS MEETING AND WE WERE GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE, UM, THE CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE, UM, APPLICATIONS HERE THAT COME THROUGH US.
UM, THERE'S A 12 MONTH WINDOW, UM, THAT THE APPLICATION IS VALID.
SO WITH, FROM THE TIME IT STARTS WHEN YOU START THE WORK.
12 MONTHS FROM THE START OF THE WORK OR THE APPROVAL APPROVAL OF THE C OA FROM THE APPROVAL OF THE C OA.
IF THE WORK'S NOT COME, DOESN'T COMMENCE WITHIN 12 MONTHS YES.
OF THE TIME THAT WE APPROVE THIS, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO IF, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THIS IS GREAT.
SO I DON'T THINK I NEED TO CLEAR THE ORDINANCE IN THAT.
NO, I I THINK WE JUST AS IT'S LAID OUT IN HERE YEAH.
I MEAN, ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT'S LAID OUT IN HERE IS NOT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING RIGHT? WE'RE APPROVING THIS LIST AS, AS OUTLINED IN THE APPLICATION.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE COA APPLICATION 2 4 0 0 6 9 1.
THE MOTION WITH OF SERVICES, I'M SORRY, WITH THE SCOPE OF SERVICES OUTLINED WITH THE SCOPE OF SERVICES OUTLINED THE APPLICATION.
WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING TO THAT, WHICH WE USUALLY DO.
THANK AND THANK YOU THAT BUILDING.
IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING STRUCTURE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CARE AND CONCERN OF IT.
IT REALLY IS, WASN'T IT? OKAY, NEXT ON THE LIST, UH, NEXT ON YOUR LIST FOR NIGHT, GO THROUGH THESE HERE.
THAT WAS A GOOD APPLICATION TOO.
UH, SO APPLICATION, CO APPLICATION 25 0 0 0 4 7.
CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE IN THIS, UH, IS FOR TO REPLACE 18 EXISTING WOOD WINDOWS WITH VINYL WINDOWS AT 5 0 7 EAST MAIN STREET AND IDENTIFIED TAX MAP 2088 DASH SEVEN DASH FOUR.
IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED OBVIOUSLY IN HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UH, THERE'S THE AERIAL VIEW FROM THE COUNTY GIS WHERE THE BUILDING SITS THERE, JUST EAST OF THE INTERSECTION WITH THE BLUE RIDGE AVENUE THERE ON EAST MAIN STREET.
UH, THERE'S THE, UH, TAX MAP OR THE AERIAL FROM THE TAX MAP AREA.
YOU GET A LITTLE BIT RENDERING OF THAT.
ALSO GIVE THE LOCATION, THAT'S THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING FROM THE HISTORIC, UH, SURVEY FROM 1993.
THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKED LIKE WHEN THE PRESERVATION, UH, COMMITTEE CAME HERE TO LOOK, DO THE HISTORIC SURVEY OF
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THESE BUILDINGS.UH, THEY DETERMINED THE BUILDING WAS PROBABLY BUILT PRIOR TO THE CIVIL WAR, UH, UH, BY THEIR INFORMATION THEY GATHERED THERE.
SO THEY DO BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, UH, BUILT BY, UH, MR. GILLES COOK, UH, BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR AND IS ASSOCIATED WITH TWO OTHER HOUSES TO THE EAST AT FIVE 13 AND FIVE 19, WHICH WAS BUILT BY HIS CHILDREN BETWEEN 1865 AND 1885.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING HAS, UH, IS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
UH, SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED, UH, UH, WITH THIS APPLICATION IS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE WINDOWS.
UH, THIS IS THE FRONT LOOK OF THE BUILDING.
UH, IT DOES APPEAR THE, ALL THOSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR HAS BEEN, UH, THE VINYL, THE WOOD WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
UH, VINYL WINDOWS HAVE BEEN INSERTED AND IT DID APPEAR AT ONE TIME, UH, THAT AREA HERE ON THE LEFT WAS A DOOR.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE, UH, PHOTOGRAPH THERE, AND, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT APPEARS THAT THERE, I DON'T, WE DON'T QUITE FOR CERTAIN WHAT'S UNDER, BEHIND THE PLYWOOD, BUT WE THINK THAT WAS A WINDOW THERE THAT IS IN VINYL ALSO, UH, NOT 100% SURE THAT THESE TWO OTHER WINDOWS HERE IN THE FRONT ARE BOARDED UP WITH PLYWOOD PRESENTLY.
UH, SO THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN TOUCHED.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, UH, THOSE ARE WINDOWS HERE, OR WERE WINDOWS AT ONE TIME, UM, THAT HAS PLYWOOD OVER THAT AREA AND IT'S PAINTED TO LOOK LIKE A WINDOW.
SO THOSE ARE NOT ACTUALLY WINDOWS.
THEY'VE BEEN BOARDED UP WITH PLYWOOD AND PAINTED TO LOOK LIKE WINDOWS.
AND THESE OTHER WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED.
SO THESE TWO WINDOWS HERE WERE WINDOWS THERE AT ONE TIME, UH, HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, WINDOWS INSERTED INTO PLACE OF THE WOODEN WINDOWS THERE.
UH, SO BASICALLY HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THE REAR, THESE WINDOWS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED.
AND THIS IS THE, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, UH, THE LAST WINDOW THERE ON THE REAR THAT HAS NOT BEEN REPLACED, UH, WOODEN WINDOW REMAINS.
UH, UH, THE APPLICANT DID GET A, UH, VIOLATION LETTER FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, A STOP WORK ORDER, UH, COMMENCING WORK WITHOUT A ZONING PERMIT AND WITHOUT A PERMIT, OBVIOUSLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
SO, UH, STOP WORK ORDER WAS ISSUED ON THAT.
UH, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WORK WAS STARTED AND A MAJORITY OF COMPLETED PRIOR FOR THE APPLICATION, UH, COMING TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UH, THAT WAS A PICTURE OF THE, UH, BASICALLY OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOW, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, A SIX OVER SIX, UH, WOODEN WINDOW.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, PART OF HIS APPLICATION IS DO THESE VINYL WINDOWS THAT'S IN YOUR APPLICATION.
UH, WITH THE SIX OVER SIX DESIGN, HE DID GIVE THE MODEL NUMBER OF THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED.
I MEAN THE WINDOWS HAVE ALREADY, MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED.
UH, WE DID ISSUE A STOP WORK ORDER, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE OF THE WORK BEING DONE.
UH, THAT WORK WAS, UH, THE LETTER WAS SENT THERE IN JANUARY.
UH, WE DID NOT HAVE THE MEETING, UH, THERE IN FEBRUARY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THE MEETING HERE IN MARCH.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE PART OF THE BUILDING? YES, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE WINDOWS THAT ARE IN NOW.
MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THEM FOR THE ENTIRE WINDOW, INCLUDING FRAME REPLACE OR JUST THE, JUST THE SASH.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE JUST INSET IN THE EXISTING, IN THE ORIGINAL FRAME.
LIKE ONE OF THOSE RETROFIT ONES.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARED BY, UM, WHEN WE DID GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT IN THE FIELD.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS THOSE RETROFIT SASHES, ARE THEY INSULATED? AND WHERE IN THAT INSULATED GLASS DID THE MONTES LAND? DUNNO, WE, WE DIDN'T GO ON SITE TO PUT THAT IN DEPTH OF THE DETAIL.
WHEN AND THAT DRAWING THAT, THAT ELLA DIDN'T SHOW IT EITHER? UH, NO, I DID NOT SEE THAT THERE.
IT DOESN'T SHOW ANY S IN THAT SECTION.
YEAH, THESE ARE JUST, THEY'RE INATED SECTION, THEY'RE JUST YEAH.
WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE PROBABLY A GOOD COMPANY, BUT, RIGHT.
SO YOU GET TO DETERMINE, UH, PART OF THE BAR'S REVIEW IS THIS, THAT THIS, UH, MATERIAL FOR THIS REPLACEMENT IS OBVIOUSLY, YOU UNDERSTAND IF IT IS AN APPROPRIATE FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
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WE COULD NOT APPROVE THIS.IT IS IN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
CAN I LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE OF CLOTHES HERE? 'CAUSE I'M BLIND.
IT'S DEFINITELY DOUBLE PANE WINDOW INSULATED GLASS, BUT NOTHING THAT SAYS, THERE WAS A PICTURE THAT HAD A LITTLE PIECE.
CAN YOU GO FORWARD OR BACK? ONE.
IT SAYS LOWS AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A PIECE OF THE WINDOW FOR A CUTAWAY.
AND THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
UM, BUT THE BAR'S, UH, PART OF YOUR REVIEW IS DETERMINE IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, UH, IF YOU, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS.
UH, THEY NEED TO COME UP FRONT AND STATE THEIR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
IF YOU DETERMINE YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT OR DISCUSS THIS AMONG YOURSELVES.
IN THE MEANTIME, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS APPLICATION? NOPE.
I'LL ADVANCE THAT FIVE BACKWARDS SO YOU CAN, UH, SURE.
YOU WANT THE, UH, ORIGINAL HOME OR THE, UH, FRONT KEY THERE, ASKING ABOUT THOSE? UM,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP, SIR? SURE.
JUST STEP UP THERE AND STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.
AND I HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO MATCH WITH THE ORIGINAL WINDOW.
I HAD TO CHECK AROUND LOCAL AND DIFFERENT STATE.
I RAN OVER TO TRY TO MATCH WINDOW, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE LOCK.
SO I COME UP WITH, THIS IS A VERY QUALITY, UH, WINDOW.
UH, ARGO GAS IN, IN
CAN I SHOW YOU MY PICTURE? YES.
IF YOU TAKE YOUR WINDOW AND YOU CUT IT RIGHT ACROSS THERE AND YOU LOOK DOWN ON IT, MY QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE THE MOUNTAINS? ARE THEY BETWEEN THE GLASS OR ARE THEY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GLASS? THESE, LIKE THIS ONE ON THE OUTSIDE.
SO, SO THEY, SO THE LIGHTER, ARE THEY IN BETWEEN THE LAYERS OF GLASS OR? SO IF I TOUCHED THIS WINDOW, IT, I COULD TOUCH IT.
IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GLASS.
IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GLASS LIKE THAT? YES.
SO IF I TOUCH THIS, IT'S SMOOTH.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THESE VINYL REPLACEMENTS IS THEY, WE'VE LOST ALL THE, THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF THE WINDOWS THAT WERE THERE, THE WOOD WINDOWS.
AND LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS, COULD YOU, WAS THERE EFFORT TO REPAIR OR RESTORE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS BEFORE YOU REMOVED THEM? I WAS NOT ABLE TO REPAIR BECAUSE ALL ROT.
EVERYTHING WAS COLLAPSING VERY OKAY.
UM, THE PHOTO, THE ONE EXISTING WINDOW THAT WE HAD THAT'S REALLY NICE.
IS THAT I, THAT WAS, I TOOK THAT PICTURE.
UM, BEING THAT THIS IS A, IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE THE, THE HISTORIC, AS MUCH HISTORIC FABRIC AS WE CAN.
AND IF WE CAN'T, IF THERE'S TOO FAR, IF THEY'RE GONE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE TO INSIST THAT THEY REPLACE WITH SOMETHING OF LIGHT MATERIAL AND LIGHT DESIGN.
SO INSTEAD OF A VINYL WINDOW, WE WOULD REQUIRE A, A WOOD WINDOW, A TRUE DIVIDED LIGHT WOOD WINDOW WITH REAL M AND UM, I CAN WE SHOW HIM A PICTURE? YEAH.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO SEE.
I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS WOOD.
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TO BUILDING.IT'S THIS, UH, UPSTAIRS APARTMENTS, UH, IS ALSO COMMERCIAL DOING, UH, THEY REPLACED THE, UH, IT'S A DIFFERENT COUNTRY, BUT SAME TYPE OF WINDOW.
UM, THERE WAS THE APPLICATION HERE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAME BEFORE US.
I, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I, IF IT'S, IT'S A, ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AT A MINIMUM, THE, THE SIDE FACING MAIN STREET, WE WOULD WANT TO SEE WOOD WINDOWS, UM, IN THE BACK.
WE USUALLY ALLOW A LITTLE BIT OF THE LEEWAY WITH THE SIDES IN THE REAR THAT DON'T FACE THE STREET.
YOU PROBABLY ADD, UH, THE WOOD FRAME AS YOU, UH, SHOW ME THAT.
CAN WE SEE THE, CAN WE SEE THE PICTURE OF THIS? YEAH, THAT'S JUST THE FRONT.
YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OF WINDOWS.
IT'S JUST WHAT'S BEHIND THE PLYWOOD IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, IS THERE A WINDOW OR A DOOR? WINDOW? IS THAT THE ONE YOU TOOK THE PICTURE OF FROM THE INSIDE? THE ONE THAT, UH, TOOK A PICTURE OVER THIS, THIS ONE.
IS THAT'S STILL THERE? STILL THERE NOW.
BUT THE INSIDES LOOK GOOD, BUT OUTSIDES OVER.
IS THERE A SORT OF HALF AND HALF THAT WE COULD, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO.
I THINK THE FRONT, THE, THE REAR, THE REAR FACING SIDE, I THINK WE COULD ALLOW, YOU KNOW, VINYL REPLACEMENTS.
BUT I THINK THE, THE FRONT, UM, WELL, EXCEPT THEM.
OH, YOU MEAN MATCHED, REPLACE THE VINYL REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE THERE? YES.
NO, I, I THINK WITH APPROPRIATE S ON IT.
YEAH, JUST THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
YOU NOT, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING DOES THE STREET.
IT DOES FIT JACK HIGHLY VISIBLE.
THE EL PORTION OF IT THAT IS NOT, IS THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT FACES THE LAUNDROMAT.
AND YOU CAN'T HARDLY SEE ANYTHING THERE.
BUT I THINK THERE'S ALREADY VINYL WINDOWS IN THAT SECTION THERE.
BUT THE REST OF THAT BUILDING IS HIGHLY VISIBLE.
YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A TOWN PARKING LOT DOWN THE REAR OF THE LOT.
SO YOU, WHEN HE USES THE WORD HISTORIC FABRIC, HE MEANS THE BRICK AND THE WOOD AND THE ROOFING, EVERYTHING.
AND VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS NOW MISSING.
YEAH, BUT I, THERE'S SOME OVER HERE TOO.
AND YOU CAN SEE THEM FROM THE, IF YOU'RE STANDING IN THE BACK.
OH, WE DON'T BARELY THAT BE LIKE OVER HERE.
SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE KIND OF A NON-ISSUE WITH THE ONES IN THE BACK.
I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE, I UNDERSTAND MM-HMM
SO YOU'RE THINKING THAT, UM, A MORE APPROPRIATE VINYL WINDOW IN THE, IN THE BACK AND THEN TRUE REPLACEMENTS IN WOOD IN THE FRONT.
WELL, I THINK IT JUST ELIMINATED THE, THERE IS NO BACK, THE ONLY BACK THAT WE HAVE NOW.
'CAUSE THE, THE OTHER SIDE FACES.
OH, IT'S STILL, OH, YOU WERE JUST SAYING IT'S STILL SO VISIBLE FACES JACKSON STREET, AND THEN THE ONLY SIDE THAT DOESN'T FACE A STREET DIRECTLY, BUT LOOKS OUT ONTO A ROOF OF A LAUNDROMAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, WE DON'T HAVE A PHOTO OF THAT ELEVATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WINDOWS ARE THERE.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WINDOWS ARE ON THAT SIDE AND REPLACE THEM? THE SIDE THAT FACES THE ROOF OF THE LAUNDROMAT? THAT'S NOT IT RIGHT THERE.
THEY WOULD BE IN THE OTHER, THAT OTHER SIDE HERE, THREE WINDOWS, NOT THIS, BUT THIS SIDE.
AND THEN YOU'VE REPLACED THEM.
I THINK OTHER THAN THOSE THREE WINDOWS, WE WOULD, WE WOULD WANT, UM, WOOD WINDOWS IN PLACE.
ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING EXCEPT, YEAH, IT'S SO UNFORTUNATE.
I THINK THAT THE, THE ONES THAT ARE REMAINING THAT ARE WOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD WANT TO, WOULD WANT THEM REPAIRED IF
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POSSIBLE.AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S A DAUNTING TASK, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
IT'S STUFF PER, PERSONALLY, I DO THAT A LOT IN MY WORK OR PIXELED WINDOWS.
UM, BUT IT'S, I KNOW FINDING SOMEBODY, WE TALKED ABOUT A LIST OF RESOURCES.
IS THAT, DOES THAT EXIST OR WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT? IT DOESN'T.
OH, I THINK A COUPLE, A COUPLE OF RESOURCES GOT ON THE WEBSITE.
HOWEVER, I WAS TOLD, I'VE NOT RESOURCED IT MYSELF, THAT I, ONE OF THE APPLICANTS WENT THERE.
AND A LOT OF THE COMPANIES THAT THEY CALLED DON'T, AREN'T EVEN WORKING.
AND SOME THAT THEY DID FIND WERE TWO AND THREE YEARS OUT TO EVEN GET ON A WAITING LIST.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A GREAT RESOURCE, BUT IT IS ON THE WEBSITE.
WELL, AND IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE OF JUST A TESTAMENT OF THE FACT THAT LIKE, IT IS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT WILL DO IT EVEN IF THAT LIST IS OUTDATED.
WELL, THERE WERE, I THINK IT THE REASON WHY, LIKE, THERE WAS AN OBJECTION TO FROM SOME OTHER OWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER THAT, THAT, THAT IT WASN'T POSSIBLE THAT THERE WASN'T ANYONE WHO COULD DO IT BECAUSE THEY HAD GONE TO SOME WOOD STORE OR SOMETHING AND JUST, AND JUST THEY WERE TOLD IT'S NOT A THING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. V? BANG? NO.
V ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION, CONVERSATION AND, AND, UM, YEAH.
UM, HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE BUILDING? ABOUT THREE YEARS.
THERE WAS A, UH, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, OR, UH, HE HAD A COUPLE OF SAME REPLACED ALREADY AND THEN HE TOLD ME THAT HE WANTED, SO I JUST
I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
UM, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEIR MOTION IS OR THAT'S UP TO YOU.
ARE WE STICKING WITH WOOD WINDOWS OR ARE WE GONNA ALLOW US A, A VINYL WINDOW THAT HAS MORE APPROPRIATE MONTH? AND I THINK, NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN.
I THINK THEY HAVE TO COME OUT REGARDLESS.
I THINK I'M OKAY WITH WOOD WINDOWS THAT COME, UM, VINYL OR ALUMINUM CLADDING ON THE OUTSIDE, NOT ON HOUSE THIS LONG.
I MEAN, THIS DATE'S BEFORE THIS FLOOR, SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE ANY, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE WOOD WINDOWS, IT ALL NEEDS TO BE IN THAT PICTURE.
HE HAD THAT WINDOW IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT HE'S GONNA USE FOR HIS PROTOTYPE.
I MEAN, WHAT DO WE DO HERE? DO WE, DO WE DENY THE APPLICATION? SO THE APPLICATION STICK FOR, FOR, TO FINISH AND THEN HE COULD JUST, IF HE'S DOING LENGTH FOR LIKE, THEN IT'S JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM
IT HAS TO BE LIKE FOR LIKE ON OUR END.
LIKE FOR LIKE OF THE ORIGINAL? YEAH.
IT'S GREAT THAT THIS ONE IS STILL THERE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING, IT'S A REFERENCE.
THAT WOULD REPLACE AN ADMINISTRATIVE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO BE A REPLICA OF THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EXACT REPLICA BECAUSE THAT'S NOT INSIDE AND GLASS.
AND SO THE S ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT FATTER, BUT THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL BE CORRECT.
BECAUSE I ASSUME THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO PUT INSULATING GLASS IN.
RIGHT? WELL, AND TWO OF THEM ARE PORTED UP.
I'LL BE SURE THAT THEY ARE ROTTED.
BUT THIS ONE, BUT FROM THE INSIDE YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE ONCE, IF YOU TOOK THAT PHOTOGRAPH TO A,
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I MEAN, I THINK THAT OUR ONLY, OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO, OR CAN WE APPROVE THE THREE ALREADY REPLACED? RIGHT.WERE THEY ALREADY, THEY ALREADY WERE ALREADY DONE.
SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE SCOPE.
WELL, IS IT JUST KIND OF A RETROACTIVE BECAUSE SOME OF THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
IS IT JUST, IF WE APPROVE JUST THE ONES THAT ARE OKAY TO APPROVE THE REST HAVE TO BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, HOW YOU PHRASE THAT THOUGH.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO CALL OUT THE FACADE THAT FACES THE LAUNDROMAT.
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE WEST FACADE.
IS THIS THE NORTH? IS THIS THE NORTH FACADE? NO.
EXCEPT FOR THE THREE THAT FACE THE LAUNDROMAT.
WHICH IS THE, IT WOULD BE THAT RIGHT HAND FACADE THAT WE CAN'T SEE WEST, THE WEST FACADE.
CAN YOU MOVE THROUGH THE, JOHN, CAN YOU GO FORWARD PLEASE? THIS IS THE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, AND BACK.
YOU SEE BEHIND THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT.
THIS IS THE SAME PHOTOGRAPH OR SAME WINDOW OVER HERE.
AND IF YOU WANNA CALL THAT THE REAR, THE ONE THAT, UH, ON THE, UH, THIS SIDE, THE ONE THAT WITH PRY, THERE'S NO WINDOW.
THESE ARE NOT WINDOWS AS IS ONES THAT ARE, THERE'S, THEY'RE JUST PILING.
BUT DO YOU INTEND TO PUT WINDOWS THERE? NO.
OH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT WINDOWS THERE AT ALL.
YOU, YOU ORIGINALLY JUST LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S JUST IN, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO PUT A DATE ON THE REMOVAL.
UM, SO WEST BESIDE FACING THE LAUNDROMAT CAN STAY.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? UM, ON THAT LEVEL, YES.
EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED IN KIND TO MATCH THE PHOTOGRAPH OF OR REPAIRED IF THE ONE'S UNDER THE PLYWOOD OR REPAIRED OR YEAH.
SO I HAVE ISSUES WITH THE TERMS IN THE COMPANY.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
REPLACED THE WITH WOOD AT THE SAME YEAH.
WITH THE WOOD WINDOW TO YEAH, EXACTLY.
YOU SAID THAT WAS WEST OR EAST FACING? BESIDES THAT, YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT WEST THREE WINDOWS THAT FACE THAT ROOF, RIGHT? YES.
JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE THREE VINYL WEST FACING UPSTAIRS WINDOWS AND TO DENY ALL OF THE VINYL WINDOWS.
AND WITH THE CONDITION THEY, YOU REPLACE HIS WORK WOULD'VE TO COMMENCE WITHIN 12 MONTHS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT, DOES THAT MEAN HE COULD LEAVE THE VINYL WINDOWS THERE FOR 12 MONTHS OR YOU WANT THEM REMOVED BY A CERTAIN, I DON'T THINK HE SPECIFICALLY.
SO IT COULD REMAIN IN VIOLATION FOR A YEAR.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PUT AN EXACT TIME TO FINISH THE PROJECT.
HE HAS TO HAVE IT STARTED WITHIN ONE YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE CODE.
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IF WE, IF WE DENY IT OUTRIGHT, HE'S IN VIOLATION.WE NEED TO, DOES THE APPLICATION INCLUDE REPLACEMENT OF THE UNKNOWN WINDOWS THAT HAVEN'T YET BEEN REPLACED? IT DOES.
THERE'S, UH, OR IS THAT A WHOLE SEPARATE APPLICATION? SIX.
THERE'S SIX, UH, WINDOWS ON THE OR FIVE THERE ON THE TOP AND FOUR ON THE BOTTOM THERE ON THE, SO THERE'S 10, THERE'D BE NINE THERE.
NINE NINE'S TOTAL OF 20 WINDOWS NINE THERE ON FRONT.
SO THERE'S THREE FACING THE ROOF ON THE FAR SIDE, ON THE OPPOSITE OF THAT WALL.
18, INCLUDING THOSE ONES FACING THE LARO MAT.
AND IT, IT INCLUDES THE ONES THAT ARE BOARDED UP.
THERE'S TWO WINDOWS THAT ARE PAINTED TO LOOK LIKE WINDOWS ON THE, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THOSE.
THERE'S TOTAL 20 WINDOWS IN THAT BUILDING.
SO 15 OF THEM NEED TO BE, AND IT REALLY SHOULD BE A REPLACEMENT OF THE BACK TO THE ROUGH OPENING, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO, UNLESS WE FIND AN EXACT REPLICA OR YOU GET SOMEBODY TO FABRICATE AN EXACT REPLICA TO FIT IN THAT HOLE WITH A SINGLE PANE, YOU KNOW, WINDOW.
LIKE THE ONES TWO REMAINING ONES ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A, AN INSULATED GLASS WINDOW SLAMMED INTO THAT NO FRAME.
IF WE DON'T DENY IT OUTRIGHT, HE'S GOT 12 MONTHS TO FIGURE IT OUT.
IF WE DO, IF YOU APPROVE ANYTHING, HE HAS 12.
WELL, UH, ONE YEAR TO, TO COMMENCE THE WORK.
BUT IF HE WAS ABLE TO SAY REPLACE HALF OF THEM IN THAT YEAR, HE COULD COME BACK AND REAPPLY FOR THE OTHER HALF.
HAVE TO, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO IF HE STARTS THE WORK.
UM, SO I THINK THE MOTION NEEDS TO SOUND SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO DENY VINYL WINDOWS IN THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH FACADE AND APPROVED ON THE WINDOWS FOR THE WEST FACADE.
CAN WE INCLUDE FACING THE LAUNDROMAT TO THAT WEST F? BESIDES THAT, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
FACING THE LAUNDROMAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
ORIGINAL WINDOW, THERE'S A OPEN WINDOW, THERE'S ALUMINUM
AND WAS, WHICH WAS A VERY UGLY YEAH.
WHICH IS BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL SINGLE.
THEY, THAT, UM, STORM WINDOWS WOULD'VE PROB THEY WOULD'VE PROBABLY BEEN INSTALLED BEFORE THIS REVIEW BOARD EXISTED, I WOULD ASSUME.
AND IF THEY WEREN'T, UM, THEY WERE APPROVED IN ERROR.
I THINK THERE'S INTERIOR OPTIONS FOR HISTORIC WINDOWS AND HISTORIC HOMES.
A GOOD OPTION IS AN INTERIOR STORM WINDOW.
THEY JUST, IT'S A PIECE OF LEXAN WITH A SQUISHY BORDER AROUND IT AND IT JUST SQUISHES INTO THE HOLE AND CREATES THAT AIR BARRIER.
SO, WHICH IS A, YOU CAN WE JUST POP IT OUT? YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST FOR LIKE WINTERTIME, SUMMERTIME.
I MEAN, IF YOU JUST, YOU POP 'EM IN, POP 'EM OUT AS NEEDED.
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SO ARE YOU OKAY IF THE WOOD WINDOWS THAT ARE THE NEW WOOD WINDOWS ARE INSULATING GLASS WINDOWS THOUGH? YOU WANNA MAKE YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IF THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, DO THEY EVEN MAKE THEM TRUE DIVIDED LIGHT LIKE THAT? I DON'T THINK SO.WELL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PUT A DIVIDER STRIP RIGHT IN LINE.
SO WHAT THEY WOULD, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PUT A, ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CLASS MM-HMM
AND THEN THEY DON'T GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH MM-HMM
BUT THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A PIECE HERE THAT MATCHES THAT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IT'S TRUE.
NO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
WELL, DEPENDING ON YOUR MOTION THEN, UH, ON, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SOUND LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO DENY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF WINDOWS 15.
UM, AND HE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE 15.
SO YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT, BUT WHAT HIS MENT WORK IS GONNA BE, WE JUST NEED TO FOCUS ON DENYING THE FINAL.
SO THE, SO THE MOTION ISN'T GONNA SAY WHAT, WHAT THE ACTION SHOULD BE.
HE'S SAYING WHAT HE'S GONNA DO.
SO THIS IS, WE'RE SAYING THIS TO HIM JUST FOR HIS OWN EDIFICATION.
SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWING THE THREE ON THE WEST SIDE, I'M ASSUMING? YES.
THE OTHER 15 WOULD'VE TO BE A SUBMISSION OF ANOTHER APPLICATION.
YOU'RE NOT APPROVING WHAT HE'S INSTALLED.
SO WE, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE THREE VINYL WINDOWS ON THE WEST FACING FACADE TOWARDS THE LAUNDROMAT.
HE'S ALREADY INSTALLED WINDOWS ON THAT.
JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE PLACE.
SO TO APPROVE THE THREE VINYL WEST, FACING THE THREE VINYL WINDOWS ON THE WEST FACING FACADE, WHICH FACES THE LAUNDROMAT ON THE UPSTAIRS PORTION OF THE HOME.
AND TO DENY ALL OTHER VINYL WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE.
ANYBODY WANT SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
YOU NEED A ROLL CALL PROPERLY, PLEASE.
WHO WAS THE SECOND? KATIE? MS. SNYDER? YES.
LEMME DISCONNECT FROM YOUR HOTSPOT.
WOULD ANY PAPER, ANYTHING, ANY IN THE BUSINESS? I DON'T THINK SO, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING? NO.
UM, SO WE, WE APPROVED THE WINDOWS ON THE WEST SIDE, THE THREE UPSTAIRS WINDOWS, THE OTHER WINDOWS WE DID NOT APPROVE.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK BEFORE US WITH AN ALTERNATIVE WINDOW DESIGN, UM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND WHICH, UH, I HAVE TO REPLACE.
BUT THE PI THINK MAKES A WINDOW THAT IS A, IT'S A SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHT, UM, THAT HAS A, IT'S A SIMULATED TON.
SO THERE'S A MUNTON ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GLASS, AND THEN A SIMULATED MEMBER IN BETWEEN THE PANES OF GLASS.
SO THIS, UH, THIS IS NOT OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA SEE.
THERE'S A SPACE, THERE'S A PIECE OF MATERIAL BETWEEN THE GLASS.
THERE'S WOOD OUT HERE AND THERE'S WOOD HERE.
DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU THIS PICTURE? AND FOR ANY OF THE WINDOWS THAT ARE STILL THERE, THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, IF IT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE TO RESTORE OR REPAIR, KEEP THEM IN ANY WAY.
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THAT IS, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.THERE'S, ARE THERE PEOPLE IN TOWN THAT YOU KNOW OF? A GUY MARAY THAT DOES THAT? I KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.
I, I CAN'T DO YOU THINK THAT WHO DID MINE? BUT I, I DID IT ALL.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE.
YOU REPLACED COTTON WOOD ON A LOT OF MY STEPS, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANY THE, I WANNA STAND UP A SIDE.
I KNOW I WANTED, THERE'S A GLASS IN ORLANDO THAT I WANTED TO GO TO LAST MONTH ABOUT, ABOUT IT.
MY BUDDY THAT DOES THE KINS BLOG WAS DOING A WORKSHOP ON HOW TO RESTORE THEM.
I REALLY WANTED TO GO, BUT I COULDN'T MAKE IT VERY EXPENSIVE, NUMBER ONE.
AND I COULDN'T MAKE IT JIVE WITH MY CALENDAR.
YOU NEED THE SEARCH ONE THAT YOU RECORD IT AND WE COULD JUST POST A LINK WEBSITE.
IT WAS LIKE $1,400 FOR TWO DAYS.
BUT YOU DID THE WORK, LIKE HE HAD WINDOWS THERE.
YOU DO THE WORK ON WRAP THIS MEETING UP? YES.
UM, SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.