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OKAY.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

SO

[Board of Zoning Appeals on February 18, 2025.]

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING TO ORDER FOR FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025, 7:00 PM TONY, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MM-HMM .

MR. SCHMID? HERE.

MR. TAYLOR? HERE.

MS. DUTTON? HERE.

MS. NOS? HERE.

MR. JACKSON? HERE.

WE HAVE COURT.

ALRIGHT, SO THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS GONNA BE THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

SO ONCE YOU WE'RE GONNA TAKE A NOMINATION, BOARD CHAIRMAN, AND THEN VICE CHAIRMAN, AND THEN HAVE THE MINUTES.

OH, SORRY.

OH, OKAY.

UM, CHAIRMAN.

VICE CHAIRMAN.

YEAH, THAT'LL BE THE SIDE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR THE MINUTES, CAN SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION? I CAN THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.

WHO'S HERE FOR LAST WEEK? LAST MONTH.

LAST LAST MEETING.

LAST, WHICH WAS NOT LAST MONTH.

AND THEN WE NEED A SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE CAN GET TO THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

CAN I GET AN ELECTION FOR CHAIRMAN ? I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL KIND OF NEW, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LETTER, SO.

YEAH.

YEAH, I KNOW.

I'M LIKE, WHO'S BEEN A TRAINING? I KNOW YOU TWO HAVE WHAT KIND OF TRAINING? THE BD TRAINING, LIKE THE COLLEGE COURSE.

ALL OF US, FOUR OF US HAVE.

HAVE YOU GOTTEN CERTIFIED? WELL, I GOT MY CERTIFICATE AND STUFF.

YEAH.

SO YOU DID THE BEGINNING AND THE CLOSING SESSION? YEAH.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

CAN YOU EMAIL ME YOUR CERTIFICATE? YEAH, SEND ME THOSE EMAIL TOO.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I ASSUMED THAT SINCE YOU GUYS PAID FOR IT, THAT THEY JUST AUTOMATICALLY DID IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

JUST GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO ME.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT I DID GET HIM SIGNED UP, SO YES.

THANK YOU.

YOU'LL ENJOY IT.

I DID.

I LEARNED A LOT.

UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE MR. TAYLOR FOR CHAIR.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, DO THEY DO THE VOICE ROLL CALL? VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

MR. JACKSON? UH, YES.

MR. TAYLOR? YES.

MS. DUTTON? YES.

MS. NOS? YES.

MS. SCH? YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M TURN THE MEETING OVER TO YOU.

YOU CAN .

WONDERFUL.

UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION FOR MS. SCHMIDT .

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MS. SCHMIDT TO BE VICE CHAIR.

DO THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

MS. SMITH? AYE.

MR. TAYLOR? AYE.

I'M SORRY.

CHAIRMAN TAYLOR.

MS. DUTTON? YES.

MS. NOS? YES.

MR. JACKSON? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

I KNOW I WAS THINKING, I WAS LIKE, WHO'S BEEN HERE A LONG, I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S ME.

.

BUT HE HAS PRIOR EXPERIENCE, SO I FELT LIKE HE SHOULD BE CHAIR.

I AGREE.

DON'T WORRY WHEN I'M NOT HERE.

YOU HAVE TO JUST, YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALL.

YEAH.

, I'LL BE PAYING ATTENTION AND LEARNING.

I KNOW THAT MY TERM IS UP LIKE IN MARCH.

SO WHAT HAPPENS? SO WE'LL JUST AUTOMATICALLY ROLL OVER OR I'LL ASK YOU IF YOU WANNA BE RECONSIDERED FOR IT AND IF YOU DO, THEN THEY'LL GET YOU ON THE SCHEDULE KIND OF LIKE THEY DID BEFORE.

OKAY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AT A WORK SESSION AND THEN TAKE A VOTE.

YEAH.

ORIGINALLY I WAS TOLD THAT DATE AND THEN WHEN I GOT MY THING IT HAD ANOTHER GEAR.

OKAY.

I I I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE IT RIGHT ON THE LIST.

MAYBE I MESSED UP OR I, SO I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S WHAT I YEAH, WHAT IT IS.

MINE WAS DEFINITELY 2025, BUT, AND, AND WHAT DID I HAVE? 26? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

THE OFFICER ELECTIONS ARE JUST FOR ONE YEAR THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH.

YES.

EVERY FEBRUARY WE'LL HAVE AN ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, PLEASE.

I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT AND THEN LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEN I WOULDN'T MIND STEPPING INTO ONE OF THOSE GOALS, BUT UNTIL I LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT LIKE FOR THE WHOLE TIME YOU'RE OH YEAH.

UNTIL YOU'RE, UNTIL YOU'RE DONE BACK OUT IN FEBRUARY.

OR BEFORE.

REALLY? LIKE IF I, IF I MOVE TO NAIROBI FOR THE WINTERS, I CAN'T , I CAN'T BE, I PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN BE ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE, SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT MANUAL REPORT.

SO IT'S JUST THE ANNUAL REPORT REPORT THAT'S LEFT.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IS THE ANNUAL REPORT.

EVERYBODY GOT

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THAT IN THE EMAIL? YES.

MM-HMM .

UH, DID EVERYBODY REVIEW IT? I DID.

MM-HMM .

DO YOU HAVE A PRINTED COPY? UHHUH.

.

UM, SO ALL OF THAT IS FROM WHEN YOU WERE THERE? WHEN I WASN'T HERE.

AND FROM WHEN MOST OF US REALLY KIND OF WERE HERE.

I GUESS I WAS HERE FOR THE WHOLE, I THINK YEAR.

YEAH, YOU WERE HERE.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS ANNUAL REPORT IS, THE STATE CODE REQUIRES THAT EACH WELL PLANNING COMMISSION, THE BDA FURNISH, AN ANNUAL REPORT, BASICALLY THEIR ACTIVITIES.

UM, THIS IS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND THEN TYPICALLY THE CHAIR WILL COME AND PRESENT IT TO TOWN COUNCIL.

UM, I GUESS WHENEVER THE TOWN COUNCIL DECIDES THEY WANNA HEAR IT.

SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT DATE IS, BUT, AND THEN DID WE GO TO THAT MEETING? NOPE.

JUST THE CHAIR HAS TO COME.

I MEAN YOU CAN, BUT YOU'RE NOT SURE.

I DON'T HAVE TO.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU.

UM, BUT IN 2024 THERE WERE NO CASES MM-HMM.

THAT CAME TO THE BCA.

UM, SO WHEN, GO AHEAD.

SO IF THE CASE COMES TO THE BCA MM-HMM.

AND THE CHAIR HAS TO GO TO THE TOWN? NO.

SO THEY JUST, THE CHAIR JUST WILL GO TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ONCE A YEAR AND JUST SHARE THE REPORT WITH THEM.

THE ACTUAL REPORT, ANNUAL REPORT THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR A MEETING, YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM CONNIE, SHE'S THE CLERK OF THE BOARD.

SO THAT WILL HAVE A STAFF REPORT, A COPY OF THE APPLICATION AND ANY RELEVANT CODES THAT Y'ALL WOULD NEED TO INTERPRET.

UM, AND THEN THAT'S TYPICALLY SENT OUT, I GUESS THE FRIDAY BEFORE YOUR MEETING ON TUESDAY.

OKAY.

UM, SO YOU REVIEW IT, YOU CAN ASK THE STAFF ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, AND YOU SAID WE COULD GO OUT AND EVEN LOOK AT IT TO GET A YEAH.

IS IT OKAY IF I FORWARD HIM THE LAST CASE THAT WE HAVE? ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU WANT, I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT WE GOT IN OUR PACKET.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I WOULD LOVE THAT.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU GUYS TOO? OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A NOTE TO DO THAT WHEN I GET HOME OR ELSE I WON'T FORGET.

SO THE STAFF REPORT, I KNOW YOU PREPARE IT MM-HMM .

UM, DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT OR JUST THAT'S IT.

IT JUST COMES.

SO I WOULD PREPARE IT AND THEN IT WOULD BE PUT INTO YOUR PACKET.

AND THEN WHEN WE'RE HERE, LIKE IF WE HAVE A VARIANCE, EITHER MYSELF OR JOHN WARE, THE DEPUTY ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WILL TYPICALLY PREPARE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU KIND OF OUTLINING WHAT WAS IN THAT REPORT, OUTLINED IN THE RELEVANT FACTS OF THE APPLICATION.

AND THEN YOU ALL WOULD, UM, START HAVING DISCUSSION, MAKE YOUR DECISION.

SORRY, ABOUT WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT REPORT, DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT? THE ANNUAL REPORT? NOT THE, NOT THE CASES.

YEAH, THOSE I THINK SO, BECAUSE LAST YEAR I FEEL LIKE WE, BECAUSE I COULDN'T VOTE ON IT BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE.

HERE THINK YOU ACCEPTED IT.

YEAH, ACCEPTED.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO PREPARE IT OR I GUESS WE COULD, BUT GENERALLY YOU AND .

YEAH.

I'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN THIS COMPUTER, SO YEAH.

YOU GUYS CAN JUST MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I FIGURE IF WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD, WE'D HAVE TO AT LEAST YEAH, YEAH.

VOTE TO SAY THIS IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WE, WE ACCEPT THIS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUES, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T MEET THAT MANY TIMES AND WE DIDN'T HAVE MANY CASES.

SO IT WAS LIKE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

RIGHT.

THIS YEAR, I MEAN, BECAUSE THREE OF YOU ARE NEW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION IF YOU'VE GOT ANY ITEMS YOU WANT ADDITIONAL TRAINING OR EXPLANATION ON IT, SINCE YOU'VE FINISHED YOUR COURSE, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A WORK SESSION AND I CAN, IF WE CAN EITHER BRING THE TOWN ATTORNEY HERE OR I CAN TAKE YOU THROUGH IT OR JOHN, WHOEVER.

UM, BUT IF YOU JUST LET ME KNOW, I THINK I'M FINE RIGHT NOW.

MAYBE ONCE YOU GET THROUGH YOURS THEN WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN KIND OF UHHUH THAT LADY'S NAME.

YEAH.

IT WAS SUPER HELPFUL TO ME.

YEAH.

WE'LL PROBABLY GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF, I'M WORRIED.

YEAH.

I GET OVERLOAD, UH, OF EMAILS AND UH, I WASN'T GETTING, I HAD OVER 5,000 MM-HMM .

THAT WAS JUST STUCK.

SO I HAD TO GO IN AND DELETE EVERYTHING AND UM, MY CERTIFICATE WOULD'VE BEEN IN THERE .

OKAY.

OH, WELL YOU COULD JUST EMAIL IF THEM AND ASK THEM TO SEND YOU ANOTHER ONE.

OKAY.

THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST, JUST CLEAR LIKE 47

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BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHAT OH YEAH.

FOUR SEVEN.

BUT THEY SHOULD, YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE A COPY OF YOURS.

THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A HARD COPY AT THE END OF IT.

OH, OKAY.

I KEEP EVERYTHING.

WELL, WE DID VIRTUAL.

VIRTUAL, OKAY.

VIRTUAL.

YEAH.

I'M PHYSICALLY GOING TO RICHMOND.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I DID TOO.

I, I, I LIKED IT.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD'VE GOTTEN RETAINED NEARLY AS MUCH IF I HAD DONE VIRTUALLY.

THERE'S A LOT OF UM, THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

YES.

EMAIL THAT TO CONNIE WHO, WHO DID THAT COME FROM WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE DEBRA, DEBORAH TABER.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I LIKED.

'CAUSE WE HAD LIKE SMALL GROUP BREAKOUTS AND SO THEN YOU CAN LIKE TALK THROUGH CASES AND ASSESS THINGS.

YEAH.

SO I THINK, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE CON POTTER, RIGHT? UHHUH.

.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY, COOL.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, MY PLEASURE.

AND IT MIGHT HELP YOU TOO, TOO WHEN I SEND YOU THE CASE STUFF THEN ALSO TO GO BACK AND LOOK ALL, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH MEETING IT WAS, BUT I CAN SEND YOU THE RECORDING TOO OF THE MEETING.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ONLINE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, YEAH, I MEAN LIKE THE LENGTH, THE RECORDING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS BACK FOR QUITE SOME TIME ARE ALL STORED IN THE COUNTY WEB, OR SORRY, THE TOWN WEBSITE.

OKAY.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO WATCH THE MEETINGS AS THEY TOOK PLACE.

I MEAN, A LOT OF 'EM ARE WORK SESSIONS, BUT SOME OF THEM RELATE TO SPECIFIC CASES.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY WATCH THEM, SEE HOW THEY TRANSPIRED, SEE THE THOUGHT PROCESS, THE DISCUSSION, ALL THAT.

AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU A REAL LIVE EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S GOING ON TO GO WITH THE CLASS THAT YOU END UP TAKING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING WE, YOU DISCUSSED, THE TRAINING AND THE REPORT THAT WE GOT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

MR. JACKSON SHOULD BE GETTING A TOWN EMAIL.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

YEAH.

THEY'LL, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A TOWN EMAIL AND THE IDEA IS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOU ALREADY.

OKAY.

I'LL HAVE TO CHECK.

OKAY.

YEAH, JUST MAKE SURE YOU USE THAT WHEN YOU I NEVER GOT ONE.

I NEVER GOT ONE.

YEAH, YOU'VE ALL BEEN GIVING 'EM IN OUR IT GUY EMAILS YOU TO YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL AND GIVES YOU INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET IN.

SO I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

IT IT SHOULD, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN IT WITH LIKE AN OUTLOOK CLIENT.

'CAUSE IT'S LIKE A MICROSOFT ATTACHED EMAIL AND I JUST, MOST EVERYBODY HAS LIKE GOOGLE OR APPLE OR SOMETHING.

SURE.

SO I USE OUTLOOK AS A SEPARATE CLIENT TO HOLD JUST THOSE EMAILS.

MM-HMM .

AND THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER.

SEPARATES THE, THE TWO.

ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY, AT LEAST FOR ME, IF YOU HAVE OUTLOOK ON YOUR PHONE FOR WORK, LIKE MY WORK, I CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

SO JUST JUST KNOW THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO DO IT FROM THE, FROM YOUR WELL I JUST USE IT FROM MY DESK.

YEAH.

I HAD TO DELETE MY WORK AND NOW I CAN'T DO ANY EXTRA.

YEAH, IF YOU, BUT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE OUTLOOK APP AND YOU'RE USING IT, OKAY, THEN YOU'LL BE FINE.

BUT FOR ME, LIKE THE JOB I HAVE NOW HAS, WE USE MY OUTLOOK AND THEY WON'T LET YOU HAVE ANOTHER LIKE INBOX ON THERE.

SO THIS IS YOUR UP OUTLOOK EMAIL? MM-HMM .

YEAH.

AND YOU CAN ALSO DO IT JUST FROM THE WEB BROWSER, LIKE IN YOUR, I THINK IT'S LOGIN COM JACKSON, AT FRONT ROYAL VA.COM.

ALL YOURS IS JUST YOUR FIRST INITIAL, YOUR LAST NAME@ROYALVA.COM.

BUT EVERYTHING THAT CONNIE SENDS US TYPICALLY SHOULD COME THROUGH THAT.

ALSO, EVERYTHING IN THAT EMAIL IS FOIA.

SO I DON'T ARE YOU IN GOVERNMENT OR RELATED TO GOVERNMENT.

OKAY.

SO EVERYTHING THAT THIS BOARD DISCUSSES IS ALL FREEDOM OF INFORMATION.

SO WHEN SHE SENDS YOU EMAILS, ANYBODY CAN REQUEST THAT AT LATER TIME.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU USE JUST THAT EMAIL FOR JUST THIS TYPE STUFF.

IF YOU USE YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL FOR IT, YOU COULD RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE THEY MAY REQUEST YOUR PERSONAL EMAILS TO SEE ONLY PERSON I'VE RECEIVED THUS FAR HAS BEEN TO MY PERSONAL EMAIL.

YEAH.

AND, AND MOST OF THE, IN THE BEGINNING THAT'S HOW, NO, IT NEEDS TO COME TO YOUR TOWN EMAIL.

BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE USING IT YET, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE AGENDA.

SO I DID.

OKAY.

AND LIKE, BECAUSE OF MY ISSUE, LIKE SHE'LL CC ME ON MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS.

SO I KNOW, BUT I DON'T RESPOND.

I MEAN, I MIGHT RESPOND TO HER FOR PERSONAL EMAIL, BUT I WON'T.

I'LL LOG INTO THE OUTLOOK APP TO OKAY.

FROM MY DESKTOP TO RESPOND WITH THE PA BUSINESS.

JUST LOOK.

YEAH.

AND, AND FOIA DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST EMAILS YOU RECEIVE.

IT'S EMAILS YOU SENT.

SO CONNIE COULD SEND YOU TONS OF EMAIL TO YOUR PERSONAL, BUT HER EMAIL WOULD BE THE FOIA STUFF.

SO YOU'D BE SAFE ON THAT.

IF YOU RESPONDED TO HER FROM YOUR PERSONAL, THEN THAT WOULD INVOLVE YOUR EMAIL AND THE THING SO SHE CAN SEND YOU STUFF.

AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE GOOD THINGS ABOUT USING THE COUNTY EMAIL STUFF OR TOWN EMAIL.

IT KIND OF KEEPS YOU IN THAT LANE.

IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER JUST TO TRY TO KEEP TRACK, THAT'S ALL.

AND ALSO THEORETICALLY, I THINK OUR EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE PUBLISHED.

SO LIKE THEORETICALLY PEOPLE COULD, THE PUBLIC COULD EMAIL US.

WE DON'T WANNA HAVE OUR THEY CAN, SO ON THE TOWN WEBSITE THERE'S A LINK ON THE BCA PAGE.

UM, NO, I MEAN I, I HAVEN'T BEEN EMAILED BY ANY PUBLIC MEMBER .

YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONTENTIOUS CASES.

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YEAH, .

YEAH.

SO YOU'RE USING MY PASSAGES TRAVEL EMAIL TO SEND TO ME.

YES.

OKAY.

SO ON THE BZA PAGE, THERE IS A BZ AT FRONT ROYAL VA.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WORKS ALL OF US THAT HAS ALL OF YOUR EMAILS LINKED TO IT.

SO IF SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO CONTACT THE DCA, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS CLICK ON THIS LINK AND IT WILL EMAIL ALL OF YOU, MYSELF AND CONNIE AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT ARE BUT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND TO THAT, RIGHT? NO, DO NOT RESPOND.

WELL IF YOU RESPOND TO IT, YOU'RE RUNNING, I THINK GEORGE SAYS THAT YOU'RE RUNNING THE RISK OF CREATING LIKE A MEETING THAT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED AT TWO OR MORE.

WE RESPOND IN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.

YEAH.

IT'S, AND IT'S SYNCHRONOUS LIKE WE SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSING IT.

YEAH.

LIVE.

IF IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF IT'S LIKE WE GET IT AND I SEND SOMETHING AT, YOU KNOW, NINE, NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND THEN HE SENDS SOMETHING AT NOON THE NEXT DAY, THAT'S NOT A MEETING.

BUT IF IT'S LIKE WE'RE ALL, HE'S LIKE 10 MINUTES AND THEN 20 MINUTES LATER I FIRE BACK AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE LIKE 30 MINUTES THEN CONSIDERED A MEETING.

IT'S MORE THAN TWO OF YOU DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT'S WHEN IT GETS TO DO AN ISSUE.

TWO OF YOU CAN KIND OF HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT AFTER ONCE IT HITS THE THIRD ONE OF YOU CHIMING IN.

YEAH, THAT'S WHEN WE GET IT GETS A LITTLE DICEY.

AND THE CURRENT BZA ONLINE IS NOT ACCURATE AT ALL.

IT ONLY, YOU'RE THE ONLY ACCURATE MEMBER ON THERE.

RIGHT? SO WE NEED THAT CHARLES.

YES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT SHOULDN'T REALLY BE A PROBLEM.

BUT IF ANY CITIZEN EMAILS YOU DIRECTLY DURING ONE OF THE CASES OR SOMETHING THAT WE MAY HEAR, THE BEST THING TO SIMPLY DO IS JUST TO FORWARD THEM TO THE TOWN STAFF AND HAVE THEM COMMUNICATE WITH TOWN STAFF BECAUSE TOWN STAFF WORKS WITH THEM AND THEN ALL WE HEAR IS AN APPEAL IF IT COMES TO US LIKE THE REST OF IT.

WE DON'T WANNA STEP ON TOWN STAFF'S TOES ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DECIDING WHAT THEY'RE DOING UNLESS IT BECOMES BEFORE THE BOARD AND THEN WE WOULD DECIDE IT AND IT WOULD BE AN OPEN MEETING WITH ALL OF US.

NOT IN AN EMAIL.

SO IT'S JUST EASIER TO BE LIKE, YOU SHOULD TALK TO LAUREN KAKI 'CAUSE SHE'S THE TOWN PLANNER.

YEAH.

AND THEN THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND WHAT WE DID WITH THE LAST UM, BOARD WAS WE JUST LIKE FOR REPLYING, WE JUST HAD THE CHAIR.

SO LIKE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEEDED TO BE LIKE NOTED TO EVERYONE, WE WOULD JUST COMMUNICATE TO CODY AND SAY LIKE, HEY, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THIS GETS ADDED TO THE AGENDA OR WHATEVER.

I GUESS WE TELL CONNIE BUT LIKE YOU WOULD BE THE ONE COMMUNICATING TO ALL OF US, WHATEVER IT WAS THAT NEEDED TO BE COMMUNICATED.

PROBABLY.

WHICH WE DON'T, THAT'S NOT LIKE A RULE, BUT WE JUST DID THAT TO SORT OF COVER OURSELVES SO THAT IT WASN'T, DIDN'T BECOME, IT JUST MAKES ONE PERSON COMMUNICATION A CONDO.

YEAH.

SO DOES THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE EVERYONE'S MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? WELL I PROVIDED YOU WITH A CONTACT SHEET IN YOUR INFORMATION PACKET.

OKAY.

IT'S GOT EVERYBODY'S PHONE NUMBER AND EMAILS, WHICH ONCE I MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE TOWN ONE AND CHARLES UPDATES IT, I'LL SEND OUT A NEW LIST WITH YOUR OKAY.

TOWN EMAILS AS WELL.

BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU'LL GET A EMAIL FROM CHARLES HUT HUTCHINS SENT, YEAH, CHARLES HUTCHINS.

AND UM, IT'LL COME TO YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET INTO YOUR TOWN EMAIL AND SET YOUR PASSWORD.

DID YOU EVER GET YOURS? YEAH.

YEAH I HAVE MINE.

YOUR BUT NO, CODY, YOU HAVE YOURS.

YOURS IS WORKING.

YES.

MINE AS WELL.

I HAD A ONE BEFORE AND OKAY.

AND THAT IS RESET IN.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN SENDING TO THAT.

'CAUSE I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE TALKED I DON'T THINK YOU WERE GETTING IT AT THE WORK EMAIL.

I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE FROM OH HAVE YOU? OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

I'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU THE BEST GOOD THAT YOU HAVE IT.

YES IT IS.

OKAY.

I'VE GOTTEN NOTHING FROM HU UH, HUTCHINSON.

OKAY.

IS IT HUTCHINS OR CHARLES HUTCHINS? I DRIVE.

I NEVER CHARLES CHARLES BC NO, BUT WE'LL HAVE CHARLES RESEND EVERYTHING OR IT MAY COME FROM A GRANT.

IT'LL EITHER BE A GRANT.

YEAH, GRANT HAW TREE OR CHARLES DOWN FRONT.

ROYAL? YEAH.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

DO YOU GUYS WANT TO, UM, ARE YOU GUYS ALL OPEN WITH THE REPORT? YES.

WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2024 REPORT AS PRESENTED.

WE HAVE SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALRIGHT.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS? NO, I THINK THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT WAS JUST TO MEET YOU AND WELCOME YOU AND THEN ELECT THE OFFICERS, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

SO I THINK BECAUSE WE APPROVED THE, UM, BYLAWS ARE DONE AND FINISHED.

YEAH.

UPDATED, CONDUCTED, ALL THAT.

WE HAVE ANY OTHER WORK? SO THE NEXT MEETING WOULD JUST BE WHEN YOU HAVE A REGULAR MEETING OR IF AFTER TRAINING, IF ANY OF YOU WANNA HAVE A WORK SESSION, CONTACT THE CHAIR.

LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION HE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH.

OKAY.

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I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING THEN A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND .

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE, .

AND WE CUT OFF THE RECORDINGS.