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THE TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR WORK SESSION FOR MONDAY,[Town Council Work Session on February 10, 2025.]
FEBRUARY 10TH TO ORDER MS. PRESLEY, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? MAYOR COCKRELL.OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A CLOSED MEETING.
UM, AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL IN ENCLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 37 11 2 0.2 37 12 DAKOTA OF VIRGINIA, THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES PURSUANT TO THE 2.2 DASH 37 11 81 OF THE CODE VIRGINIA, FOR THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, MOTION, PERFORMANCE MOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING OR RESIGNATION TO SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTS OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY.
MORE SPECIFICALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SECOND, MS. PRESLEY ROLL CALL.
WE ARE NOW ENCLOSED, UH, MADAM MAYOR.
CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE IS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AFFIRM BOTH THAT ALL IN SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM THE OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENT UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS MORE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED OR HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNCIL.
AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OR COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL SECOND.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS NEW BUSINESS AND MS. CAMPBELL'S GONNA COME UP.
IT'S OUR PURCHASE OF SALT SPREADERS WITH ACCESSORIES FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
SO REQUEST IS BEING MADE OF, UM, COUNSEL FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE TO PURCHASE THREE STAINLESS STEEL SALT SPREADERS AND ACCESSORIES.
UM, FROM THE FEBRUARY 24TH REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING, THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT IS COOPERATIVE CONTRACTING UTILIZING THE VIRGINIA SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION CONTRACT.
UM, WE RECEIVED A QUOTE FROM GODWIN MANUFACTURING, UM, FOR THE THREE SPREADERS TOTALING $59,413.
UM, THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAS 60,000 SET ASIDE AND FOUR, THE THREE SPREADERS.
I WAS JUST SAYING HOPEFULLY THE SHIPMENT ISN'T, UM, $587 OR MORE.
WELL, WE ACTUALLY, IT'LL BE OUTTA THE BUDGET WHILE WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, UM, WELL, THE DUMP TRUCK'S COMING OUT THERE.
AND THEY'RE KIND OF HOPING THAT WE CAN PUT THOSE IN THERE OKAY.
COUNCIL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM YOU'VE ANSWERED? YEAH, PROBABLY TELL TO REPLACE 22-YEAR-OLD SPREAD.
THEY, THOSE ALL THE SALT THEY REPLACE MACHINERY EQUIPMENT DONE THERE.
ARE THEY REPLACING OLD SPREADERS OR WE GONNA HAVE OLD ONES? WE GET THREE NEW TRUCKS COME IN.
AND THE ONLY REASON THE ONES WE HAVE IS PROBABLY LAST THAT
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS THE BIO RETENTION POND REBUILD AT THE ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
MICHELLE, I BELIEVE THAT'S YOU AS WELL, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, SO THAT'S TO PROCURE THE SERVICES TO REBUILD THE BIO RETENTION, UM, POND.
UM, TO SECURE A CONTRACTOR TO BRING THE POND INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT IS ALSO COOPERATIVE CONTRACTING.
UH, USING THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD OF HENRICO COUNTY, UH, AND MUELLER INCORPORATED OUTTA FALLS CHURCH, UH, DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A PROPOSAL FROM MUELLER AND THE AMOUNT OF $81,931.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS 60,000 SET ASIDE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 AND ALSO $23,674 ENCUMBER ON A PURCHASE
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ORDER.WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT DOES WHICH PART MEAN? THE 23,000 ON A PURCHASE ORDER.
WE CARRIED, WE HAD CARRIED THE FUNDS FORWARD.
WE HAD TO ALLOCATE A RESOLVED.
BY COUNSEL, MS. I ON ON THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE, AND I READ THROUGH IT BEST I COULD UNDERSTAND.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING CONTAMINATED SOIL OUT OF THEIR NOT CONTAMINATED, CARRIE.
IT'S, IT IS NOT CONTAMINATED SOIL.
UM, SO I HATE EVEN SAYING THIS.
10 YEARS AGO, WE BUILT THE FACILITY.
IT WAS UP TO DEQ STANDARDS AT THE TIME, AT THE TIME WE NEVER GOT A FINAL ON IT.
SO WHEN I TOOK OVER, I GOT A LETTER FROM DEQ AND INHERITED THIS PROBLEM FOR, FOR US.
SO, UM, WE'RE NOT UP TO STANDARD NOW WITH DQS DIRT THAT THEY USE IN THESE RETENTION BONDS.
SO WE HAVE TO UP UPGRADE IT, REMOVE ALL THE OLD OUT, BRING IN NEW, SO THE OLD SOILS NOT CONTAMINATED.
THERE'S NO DEQ PERMITS OR SPECIAL OBJECTION.
WELL, SO THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, DO YOU, DO YOU PERCEIVE THERE BEING ANY HINT OF CHANGES TO WHERE THOSE REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW MIGHT BE REVERSED OR CHANGED SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAKE THIS CHANGE? WELL, SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS MUELLER COMPANY? THEY'RE GONNA COME IN, PUT THE NEW DIRT IN, GET EVERYTHING UP, GIVE US THE AS BILL DRAWINGS SUBMIT, DEQ, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING FOR US.
SO WHEN WE GET OUR SIGNED PERMIT FROM DEQ, IT'S OVER WITH AT 2025 STANDARDS.
AND IT WILL BE GOOD FROM HERE ON.
WE WANT TO KEEP DEQ HAPPY? I DON'T THINK SO,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE FEBRUARY 24TH.
YOU WANT SALT SPREADERS? SO CONSENT AS WELL.
BOTH OF THESE ON CONSENT? I, I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, NEXT UP IS THE FY 25 BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECEIVE FUNDS FOR SALE OF THE TRANSFORMER.
AND MR. WILSON'S GONNA BE IN THAT COURSE.
SO THE, UM, BLESS, BLESS, BLESS YOU.
UH, SO THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, RECENTLY REPLACED A TRANSFORMER.
UH, IT'S NOT A NORMAL S SIZE TRANSFORMER.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MASSIVE ONES THAT IS AT THE SUBSTATIONS.
AND, UH, THEY, UH, UH, GOT WITH THIS COMPANY TO ACTUALLY, UH, THEY PROVIDED THE CRANE AND THE LOADING AND EVERYTHING TO REMOVE THE, UH, TRANSFORMER IS FOR THE TRANSFORMER.
UH, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS TAKE THIS $10,000, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED FOR THE TRANSFORMER AND MOVE THAT OVER TO THE MOVE EACH ONE BACK, FUTURE TRANSFORMER.
ABOUT TO START BEATING HER ON THE BACK.
UM, SO YEAH, BASICALLY WE'RE JUST REQUESTING A BUDGET TRANSFER TO BRING IN THOSE REVENUES AND SET IT ASIDE FOR A FUTURE TRANSFORMER AND FUTURE SUB TRANSFORMER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS HERE TO HELP US WITH.
DOES COUNSEL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WILSON ON THIS? SO IS THIS SOMETHING I KNOW THAT YOU DISPOSE OF ACCESS EQUIPMENT TO GOVERNMENT IN OR SOMETHING? IS THAT WHAT WE DID WITH THIS? WE PUT IT OUT THERE AND PEOPLE BID ON IT AND BOUGHT IT OR NOT SO MUCH WITH THIS ONE? THIS ONE, UH, AS A, UH, KIND OF A, KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CRANE TO COME IN HERE TO REMOVE IT.
SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF COMPANIES THAT'LL COME IN AND PROVIDE THE CRANE TO REMOVE IT.
THIS IS THE WAY PAID US THE MOST FOR THAT.
AND SO WE DISPOSED OF IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
WELL,
WELL, I'M GONNA ASK ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO TINA, THIS ONE WE COULD DO THE SAME THING.
THE LAST NEW BUSINESS IS THE FY 25 BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ACCEPT AWARDED GRANT FUNDS FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.
UH, SO THE, UH, TOWN HAD APPLIED FOR A, UH, GRANT FOR THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY, UH, TO, UM, OBTAIN A, UH, POSITION, UH, FOR THE, UH, ARBORIST AND, UH, GOT APPROVED FOR THE FUNDING.
UH, THE, UH, FUNDING IS ONLY GOOD FOR THE PERIOD OF ONE YEAR.
WE CAN REAPPLY FOR THE GRANT FUNDS IN THE FUTURE.
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NOT TO SAY THAT WE WILL OR WOULD NOT GET IT, BUT, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN APPLY FOR THOSE IN THE FUTURE.UH, GENERAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE IS $83,703, WHICH WOULD COVER, UH, REGULAR SALARIES LIKE BRS.
UM, SO REQUESTING COUNSEL'S APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GRANT FUND, UH, TO HELP SUPPORT THE A PROJECTS.
BJ, THIS IS A FULL-TIME THOUGH, RIGHT? YES.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD WORK, I KNOW IN THE PAST SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD LIKE PART-TIME CORRECT FOR THOSE POSITION PART-TIME, BUT THIS WOULD BE FOR FULL-TIME.
SO YOU, DO YOU, UM, IN ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE PERSON, YOU JUST SAY IT'S A GRANT FUNDED POSITION? D DEPENDING UPON, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY CAN, WE HAVE A, A SIMILAR POSITION IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF THE GRANT FUNDING GOES AWAY, THEN THE POSITION COULD GO AWAY OR WE COULD UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FUND IT WITH TOWN FUNDS.
IF WE SAID CHOOSE, WE COULD, UM, WHEN HIRING FOR THE POSITION, IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE GRANT FUNDS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL.
WELL, SOME OF THESE FUNDS IS GOING TOWARD, UH, LIKE THE TREE STEWARDS AND THE UNIFICATION.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON THE SUMMARY.
UM, THE POSITION WOULD HELP OUT WITH, WITH THOSE.
UM, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT, THE FUNDS ARE NOT GOING TO THIS TREE STEWARDS, BUT THE SALARY, THE SALARY.
SALARY, THE SALARY, I MEAN THE POSITION WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
BUT THEY'RE, THEY WOULD THEN PROVIDE THE FUNDING REPORT.
WELL, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THE POSITION.
SO WE CAN THEN ADD THE POSITION.
THAT ANSWERS MY OTHER QUESTION.
SO WITHOUT, SO THIS ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, THIS, I WOULD SAY CONSENT AS WELL.
HOW BIG IS OUR CONSENT RIGHT NOW, MS. PRESLEY? 'CAUSE WE HAD THE THIRD.
WE HAD, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS THE THIRD.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS EVEN FOUR OR FIVE.
AND, UM, AS YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT, UM, THE SILO WASTE STUDY AND ALL THE TALK ABOUT IT.
AND SO, UM, WHEN WE, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, UM, WE TALKED, COUNCIL WAS WILLING TO ENTERTAIN, UM, ALLOWING THE CLASS THREE BUSINESSES POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND MR. WILSON'S GONNA, UM, PRESENT THAT AT THIS TIME.
SO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU IS A PROPOSAL, UH, FROM, UH, FABRICA AND ONE Q UH, THE TWO CLASS THREE BUSINESSES, UH, TO TAKE OVER THE ENCLOSURE BEHIND, UH, RISA THERE, THE LOADING DOCK.
IT HAS, UH, TWO, UM, DUMPSTER IN IT CURRENTLY, AND I BELIEVE THE GREASE STRAP FOR VIBRA THERE, UH, THEY WOULD, UH, TAKE OVER THE ENCLOSURES, UM, AND OBTAIN THEIR PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, UH, AS, UH, WELL, THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN, UH, REPAIR THE ENCLOSURE.
UH, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS HAVE THE, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY DRAFT UP AN AGREEMENT.
UM, IT'LL BE AMICABLE TO, UM, BOTH PARTIES AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNSEL, UH, FOR, UH, POSSIBLE APPROVAL MEETING.
UH, HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, YOU HAVE, I HAVE, UH, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY'RE HERE TO HELP THEM.
AND, AND REALLY, SO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR MR. WILSON OR STAFF? AND THEN, UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT TIME, JUST, UH, JUST, UH, WHETHER OR NOT COUNSEL'S WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH HAVING THE TOWN ATTORNEY DRAFT THE AGREEMENT.
I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK IT'S A, A WORKABLE COMPROMISE THAT, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL HAS DISCUSSED ABOUT OUR, OUR TWO MAJOR USERS.
THE CLASS THREE, OUR ONLY CLASS THREE.
UH, BY USING EXISTING STRUCTURE, WE'RE NOT TAKING UP MUCH NEED OF PARKING, WHICH WE HAD DISCUSSED, GIVING UP A PARKING SPACE OR TWO TO FOUR.
SO THIS ELIMINATES THE NEED OF THAT.
UM, THE INTERESTING THING I FOUND IN GOING THROUGH HERE IS OUR, OUR SHORTFALL, OUR DEFICIT, BECAUSE OF DOING ALL OF THIS AND NOW COLLECTING MORE FEES FROM MORE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, WE'VE GENERATED MORE INCOME.
SO WE'VE REALLY NARROWED DOWN THE GAP, UM, FROM A PREVIOUS, UH, DEFICIT, UM, TO PERHAPS ONLY 14,000.
AND THEN WE GET INTO, BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PROVIDE FOR THAT DUMPSTER.
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THE ZERO AND OUT THE, UM, THE DEPTH.I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
MR. WELL, TOO WAS IF THERE'S GONNA BE ONE ENCLOSURE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UH, ONE ENCLOSURE THAT BOTH, SO BUSINESSES WILL USE THE ONE ENCLOSURE, THE OTHER ENCLOSURE.
SO, UM, SO ONE BUSINESS WILL HAVE TO WALK FURTHER, UM, AND SOME OF OUR, UM, RESIDENTS ON MAIN STREET WILL WALK A LITTLE FURTHER TO GET TO THE OTHER ENCLOSURE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENCES THAT I SEE.
BUT WE WON'T BE, UM, LOSING ANY PARKING.
THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE BASED ON A TIMEFRAME.
WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? UM, WELL, YEAH, I, I ENVISION A LEASE, RIGHT? RATHER THAN A LICENSE FOR THIS MM-HMM
UM, SO IT COULD BE FIVE YEARS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
WELL THAT I, THAT'S ACTUALLY WAS A, IT WASN'T A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
IT WAS KIND OF MORE LIKE FOR COUNCIL, LIKE MM-HMM
I KNOW THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, WE WERE SAYING LIKE, WELL WE CAN TRY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING LIKE, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANNA DO FOR A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME TO MAKE SURE, OKAY, THIS IS GONNA WORK, THIS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, IT WOULD PROVISION THAT WOULD, UM, FOR THE LEASE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATE IF, IF, UH, LESSEES, UM, FAILED TO EXHIBIT THEIR RIGHT TO THE EXEMPTION THAT'S REQUIRED BY TENANT.
NOW WORDS, IF THEY FAILED TO KEEP A CONTRACT WITH PICKING UP THE TRASH BILL OUT OR SOMETHING, THEN THAT WOULD BE A TERMINATOR AUTOMATICALLY, RIGHT? AND THEY, I'M ASSUMING LIKE THEY WOULD BE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD ACCESS IT.
LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOCK SOMETHING SO THEY, THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE USING IT.
IT WOULDN'T BE FOR, IT WOULDN'T BE FOR ANY OTHER TENANTS ON MAIN STREET.
CORRECT? IT'S JUST FOR THOSE TWO DAYS SIGN THERE WOULD BE SIGNAGE.
BUT I THINK WE WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE LESSEE TO, TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
THAT WOULDN'T BE A DUTY ON THE TOWN.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA MONITOR IT WITH CAMERAS AND STUFF AS WELL.
THEY'D KNOW WHETHER ANYBODY ELSE WOULD USE THAT.
IT'D BE IN A SHARED SITUATION.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S TRASH OUT OBVIOUSLY IS IF THEY SECURE.
UM, AND WE WOULD STILL MAINTAIN THE ONE OUT HERE ON THE, AND THE ONE FURTHER DOWN, FURTHER DOWN BY NEAR THE BEER MUSEUM, I BELIEVE THERE.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE LEASE, I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS FACED ISSUES WHERE PRIOR COUNSELS OR TOWN STAFF HAVE EXECUTED LEASES OF TOWN PROPERTY THAT WE'VE QUESTIONED THE LEGALITY OF.
UM, IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THIS? THIS, THIS IS DIFFERENT.
THIS IS, UM, TOWN PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO TOWN RIGHT OF WAY.
THE PARKING LOT IS CONTROLLED BY THE TOWN.
UM, IT'S NOT, I'LL JUST SAY IT'S NOT THE SAME AS AS STREETS OR ALLEYS, ALLEYS, STREETS OR ALLEYS.
THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OFF TO PEOPLE, BUT, ALL RIGHT.
UM, SO MR. WASANA, DO YOU NEED ANY DIRECTION? I GUESS WE DIDN'T REALLY DECIDE.
YEAH, THAT'S, OTHER THAN THAT I, I COULDN PUT TOGETHER.
I WAS TRYING TO GET TO THAT, BUT, SO DO Y'ALL HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR A TERM OF TIME? LIKE TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? SHORTER? I THINK SO.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I'M THINKING WE'RE ALL HERE, GOD WILLING FOR TWO YEARS WHEN WE MAKE IT TWO YEARS.
I THINK TWO YEARS IS FAIR TO, UM, ENSURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING MAINTAINED PROPERLY, ET CETERA, UM, WITHOUT COMMITTING FUTURE COUNSELS TO A LARGE COMMITMENT OF THE TOWN'S PROPERTY.
SO ONCE, ONCE YOU, UM, GIVE THE DRAFT AND, AND IF VOTE THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE AMENABLE TO IT, IT WOULD BE TWO YEARS FROM ONCE IT'S SIGNED.
AND YOU'LL BRING THAT BACK TOO.
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AND IT, MORE THAN LIKELY, I'M FIGURING IT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A MARCH-ISH KIND THING.MAYOR, IF I MAY ASK BJ, UM, I THINK COUNTY MANAGER WILSON.
SO WE'LL MAINTAIN OUR SITUATION NOW WITH THEM AND THE BILLING.
WE, WE'VE AGREED, I BELIEVE TO WHAT ARE WE BILLING CLASS THREE RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING THE $120 AND THAT'LL REMAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO EXPRESS HERE.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE AS IS UNTIL THE AGREEMENT IS REACHING, THEY TAKE IT OVER.
SO THE 10 OUR BUSINESSES KNOW WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY $425 NEXT MONTH, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE WILL STILL BE A CLASS THREE.
YES, THERE WILL STILL BE A CLASS THREE.
THAT BECOME NEW BUSINESSES, CHANGES OF OWNERSHIP, NEW BUSINESS THAT FALL IN AS IT SHOULD.
SO SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WITH THE AGREEMENTS.
AND THAT WAY WE WON'T BE GOING FURTHER CALL.
UM, WILL THIS HAVE TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING? UH, I, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I DON'T, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO VOTE TO TAKE ACTION TO ALLOW THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE THEIR CONTRACT.
I THINK THERE'S A TIME, A TIMEFRAME.
IT'S OVER FIVE YEARS OR UNDER 10.
CONVEYING AN INTEREST IN THE REAL ESTATE, I THINK REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE'LL SORT IT OUT.
ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
AND SO, UM, COUNCILMAN WOOD AND I ATTEND, I'M SORRY, WHAT? I HAVE ITEM NUMBER SIX FOR THE NEXT ONE.
WE JUST DID SOLID WASTE COLLECTION PROPOSAL FROM RISA AND Q AND NUMBER FIVE IS THE REQUEST FROM THE LIAISON COMMITTEE TO JOIN.
IT'S WRONG ON OUR AGENDA THEN.
YEAH, I PULLED IT UP FROM BOX.
SO, UM, THE LIAISON COMMITTEE, UH, MEETING WE ATTENDED, UM, COUNCILMAN WOOD AND I DID FOR JANUARY.
AND AS YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE HAD ASKED, UM, THE COUNTY, UM, ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACTS ANALYSIS STUDY BECAUSE, UM, IT HAS COME UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN, UH, APPLICANTS AND HOW WE ARE, THE NUMBERS ARE OUTDATED, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD.
THAT'S THE BEST I, BEST WAY I CAN EXPLAIN IT.
AND YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW THAT.
UM, AND SO WE BROUGHT THAT UP WITH THEM, UH, AT THE LIAISON MEETING AND UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE GOING, THEIR, THEIR HOPE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING A STUDY, UM, SO THAT THE MOST ACCURATE NUMBERS, THEY, THE NUMBERS ARE OVER 10 YEARS OLD.
AND THAT WHAT I THINK THAT, I MEAN 2 0 3 AWAY.
YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY, SORRY, LONGER THAN 10 YEARS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP, UM, DR.
DALEY MENTIONED THAT HE WANTED TO KNOW IF THE TOWN, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WANTED THEM TO LOOK AT.
AND SO, UM, IF YOU HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO WATCH THE MEETING, I, I HAD SHARED THAT WE, WE DO OUR OWN STUDIES.
WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR OWN STUDIES LIKE EVERY SO MANY YEARS.
UM, AND SO I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING, HOWEVER, UM, I CERTAINLY SAID I WILL CERTAINLY BRING IT BACK AND ASK COUNSEL, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS YOU'RE AWARE AND THE VSA, THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THAT, AND I JUST WASN'T AWARE OF THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION WHEN I WENT TO THE LIAISON MEETING OR I WOULD'VE SHARED IT THAT NIGHT.
BUT I'M, THIS IS MORE OR LESS JUST A FOLLOW THROUGH TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ALL IF THERE WAS SOMETHING, UM, I, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT, THAT I, NOBODY REALLY EVER ANSWERED ME THAT NIGHT ABOUT LIKE, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR US TO INCLUDE THIS OR YOU ASKING FOR US TO HELP PAY FOR IT.
UM, NOBODY EVER WHY? NOBODY, YEAH.
NOBODY, YEAH, NOBODY EVER ANSWERED THAT.
UM, BUT, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE BIGGEST NUMBER THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS, OR NOT THE BIGGEST NUMBER, BUT THE NUMBER THAT'S REALLY IMPACTFUL IS THE SCHOOL NUMBER.
AND SO WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT COME, UH, TO THE TOWN WITH APPLICATIONS AND THEY, UM, AND THE SCHOOL NUMBERS ARE INCORRECT, AS, AS COUNCILMAN
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RAPPAPORT REMEMBERS, LIKE WE'VE THOUGHT OFTENTIMES LIKE, WOW, THIS, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ENOUGH.THAT'S 'CAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE 20 YEARS OLD.
UM, AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE DERIVED BASED ON LIKE, UM, LIKE TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL AND WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
AND SO LIKE, I THINK I'M, I'M THROWING THIS OUT THERE, BUT LIKE, I THINK THE NUMBER WAS LIKE 20 MILLION.
WELL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD ANY SCHOOL FOR 20 MILLION NOWADAYS, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THE NUMBERS ARE OUTDATED.
SO I'M ASSUMING, WELL FOR ONE THING, NOW THAT WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING COUNCIL NEEDS THAT'S PART OF THEIR STUDY.
I, I WOULD SAY MAD MAYOR, YOU DID A GOOD JOB THAT NIGHT EXPRESS.
WHEN THEY ASK YOU THAT QUESTION, THE IMPACT FEES ARE FOR MOST THINGS ARE ACCOUNTING, RESPONSIBILITY, THE SCHOOLS FIRE AND RESCUE, UH, THE PARKS, UH, ANY, ANY SERVICES OR THINGS PROVIDED FOR ALL THE CITIZENS, WHICH WE ARE CITIZENS OF NOR COUNTY AS WELL.
WHAT WOULD BENEFIT US? I MEAN, PROBABLY FOR US, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK, I MEAN, WE'VE LOOKED AT WATER AND SEWER.
UH, A TRAFFIC STUDY PROBABLY IS ON THE HORIZON.
I'M THINKING WITH, WITH GROWTH AND DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON THAT'S NOT, I UNDERSTOOD.
WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU AGAIN, CONTINUALLY FROM THAT NIGHT THAT I DON'T SEE US GAINING, PROFITING ANYTHING KNOWLEDGE WISE FROM THIS.
SO I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF PUT ANY MONEY TOWARDS OUR JOB.
I MEAN, OUR ROLE, I THINK OUR ROLE IS, IS THE COMMITMENT TO BE SENSITIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF WHAT THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, AND SO TO TAKE THAT TO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE MAKING OUR DECISIONS.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS SHARED.
I MEAN, THAT WAS REALLY THE REASON WHY WE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE AT THE LIAISON MEETING WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE SHARED, I BELIEVE LAUREN, UH, CAPISH SHARED IT AS, AS WELL WHEN SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED WHEN THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN SUGGESTING AS THOUGH WE'RE NOT, THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY.
WELL, WE CAN ONLY ASK WHAT THE, WHAT THIS STUDY SH WHAT THEIR STUDY SHOULD, WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE OUTDATED, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE INFORMATION'S COMING FROM.
SO REALLY IT'S A SENSITIVITY TO US RECOGNIZING FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THAT WE WANT THE NUMBERS TO BE THE MOST ACCURATE.
WELL I THINK IT'S RECOGNIZING THAT THE COUNTY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY AND A DUE DILIGENCE TO HAVE THIS IMPACT STUDY UP TO DATE, UM, AT ALL COSTS AND AT ALL TIMES FOR THE BETTERMENT AND THE, THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
I MEAN, I I DO THINK THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES THERE WERE SOMEWHAT SURPRISED AND GOT EDUCATED ON THIS.
IT, IT, IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT THEY WERE REALLY 20 YEARS OLD.
I DO KNOW SOME OF THE FORMER STAFF HAD ALLUDED TO YEARS AGO WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL NEEDING THESE STUDIES UPDATED JUST LIKE THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS EXTREMELY OUTDATED, LIKE THE TOWN.
UM, AND I THINK IT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT THEY'RE, I FEEL LIKE THEY KNOW THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO.
BUT I DO, I I THINK THAT THEY SAID, I'M LOOKING AT BRANDON 'CAUSE HE WAS THERE TOO.
I'M PRETTY SURE THEY SAID IT, THAT, THAT IT WAS MAYBE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS WHAT THIS THEY'VE GOT FIND MONEY.
THAT THEY'VE GOTTA FIND THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
IT WOULD BE LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO I COULD SEE WHY THEY'RE NOT JUMPING TO DO IT QUICKLY.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY ONE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN WITH THE WRONG NUMBERS AND YOU CAN LOSE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS REAL QUICK.
AND IT COULD VERY WELL DOUBLE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A DROP IN THE BUCKET IN COMPARISON TO THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE BEING RENOVATED AND REMODELED WITHOUT ANY EXPANSION AND, AND THE CURRENT NEED FOR ANOTHER SCHOOL.
CERTAINLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBERS, YOU CAN'T PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE.
SO ITEM NUMBER SIX, UM, UH, SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS REAL QUICK.
SO YOU KNOW THAT, UM, THE 90 UNIT APARTMENT, UM, COMMUNITY OFF OF EAST ER ROAD THAT HAS COME BEFORE US, THAT HAD ALREADY COME BEFORE US.
AND SO WHAT WE WERE AWARE OF IS THAT WELL MAYBE, SO YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN TO GET FUNDING, RIGHT? FOR THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S THROUGH, UH, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
AND SO, UM, THEIR APPLICATION IS DUE MARCH 13TH FOR THIS ROUND OF FUNDING.
AND SO WHAT WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE OF AND THEY REACHED OUT TO, UM,
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PLANNING AND ZONING LAST WEEK, IS THAT THEY WOULD NEED A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SAYING THAT THEY SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT.IT, IT WOULD GIVE THEIR IT APPLICATION MORE FAVOR, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN, I CAN EXPLAIN THAT.
AND SO, UM, SO UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHY THIS WAS KIND OF A LATE ADD ONTO THE AGENDA BECAUSE UM, WE ARE A TOWN, NOT THE COUNTY.
AND SO THE CODE IS, IT'S A CITY OR COUNTY THAT WOULD PASS THE RESOLUTION MM-HMM
AND SO I SPOKE WITH THE COUNTY LAST WEEK AND THEY WOULD LIKE, THEY WANT THE TOWN TO BASICALLY REQUEST THEM TO PASS A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD JUST TALK ABOUT IT AND JUST BASICALLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST A GENERIC SEND IT OVER LIKE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DOESN'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN.
WE ALL KNOW WE NEED THIS HOUSING.
SO WE CERTAINLY, I DIDN'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WOULD WANNA DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING.
BUT, UM, I THINK THE COUNTY WANTS MORE OF A FORMAL, UM, A FORMAL REQUEST FROM US SO THAT MOVING FORWARD THAT IT'S NOT A, HEY THE COUNTY SAID THEY WANTED IT AND THE TOWN NEVER DID.
IT'S MORE OF LIKE A, A JOINT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THIS THING TOGETHER.
SO, UM, WAS IT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OR COUNTY STAFF THAT REQUESTED THAT WE DO THIS? WELL, OUR, OUR STAFF TALKED TO THEIR STAFF AND THEN I ACTUALLY TALKED TO, UM, THEIR STAFF.
I TALKED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO IT WAS STAFF, THE COUNTY THAT REQUESTED THAT WE, YEAH.
WELL, AND SO THE THING IS, IN ORDER TO GET THIS, IN ORDER FOR US TO TAKE ACTION AND IT TO GET TO THEM IN ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO TAKE ACTION AND BE DONE BEFORE MARCH 13TH, IT REALLY JUST NEEDED TO GO FAST TRACK.
YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ON HERE FOR TONIGHT.
'CAUSE WE WOULD NOT MEET AGAIN UNTIL FEBRUARY 24TH.
AND THEN, UM, SO ANYWAY, THERE, THERE WAS SOME OTHER TALK ABOUT TAX CREDITS, BUT I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT THAT'S, THAT'S WAY DOWN THE ROAD FOR US.
AND I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD'VE LOVED FOR US TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE ADDRESSED THAT AS WELL.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY WOULDN'T EVEN QUALIFY FOR THE TAX CREDITS 'CAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE LAND YET.
SO THAT'S, THEY THEY, THEY JUST, THEY'RE JUST AREN'T AWARE OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
THAT'S THE TAX ABATEMENT IN THEIR LETTER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING? YES.
THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT TALKS ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE TONIGHT.
WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT ASKING MS. PRESLEY TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNTY ASKING THEIR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO, UM, PASS A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR, UM, FOR THIS 90 UNIT APARTMENT COMMUNITY OFF, YOU KNOW, OFF ACROSS THE ROAD.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY, UM, ANY OPPOSITION TO US ASKING THE COUNTY TO UM, PASS A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THIS? IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? NO, BUT I, I WANTED TO, DID YOU SEE THAT? SEE THE LAND USUALLY WHEN THEY, EVEN IF THEY SAY CITY OR COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S AN APPLICATION, IT ALLOWS FOR TOWNS AS WELL.
I BUT I DIDN'T, I MEAN, NO, WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY THAT WOULD NEED TO PASS IT AND UM, I MEAN THAT'S, AND AND SO, SO I MEAN REALLY ORIGINALLY MY THOUGHT WAS WELL THEN THEY CAN JUST DO IT, RIGHT? BUT THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO COMES BACK LATER FRUSTRATED WITH SOMETHING, THEY COULD SAY, WE WERE ALL IN THIS THING TOGETHER.
WELL, CURRENTLY, YEAH, THERE'S A DISCUSSION AND DISPUTE ABOUT THE LAND, UH, SURVEY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, UM, MAYBE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION BETWEEN THE TAX EXEMPTION AND THE DETERMINATION OF, UH, REVITALIZATION AREA.
YEAH, WELL THAT TAX EXEMPTION DOES IN INVOLVE, UH, INVOLVE THE TOWN.
RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S A, AS FAR AS REVITALIZATION AREA DESIGNATION, IT'S CITY OR COUNTY.
AND THAT'S, AND THERE ARE FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ON THEM, RIGHT? WE'RE ASKING THE, WE'RE WE'RE, OUR PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT IS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WE WANT THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER PASSING A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT AND THEN IT'LL BE FOR THEM TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR RESOLUTION WOULD STATE.
AND AS FAR AS LIKE THE TAX THING, LIKE I SAID, I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF
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THEY COULD HAVE PULLED THAT OFF, IT MAY HAVE HELPED THEIR APPLICATION MORE, BUT IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE.IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO OVERNIGHT.
THAT'S, IT'S, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S WAY MORE TO IT THAN, THAN JUST, UH, THAN JUST SAYING THAT YOU SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, SO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION, RIGHT? YOU SAID THAT, I MEAN, IS THAT, SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY WOULD, THAT, THAT MS. PRESLEY SEND A LETTER TO THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ASKING THEM TO, UM, IT, IT SAYS THAT COUNCIL WOULD MOVE TO THE MAYOR TO SEND A LETTER MOTION.
ALRIGHT, NEVERMIND THEN IT'LL BE ME.
OR DO YOU WANNA
WELL WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA LET YOU ALL KNOW, LIKE I I WAS ASKING Y'ALL ABOUT LIKE SUPPORTING THEM PASSING A RESOLUTION.
THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S THERE IS THE LANGUAGE THAT JEN SERBER WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT REVITALIZATION AREA IS, IS IT'S A STRETCH FOR THAT AREA.
I THOUGHT THAT, YEAH, I HAVEN'T READ IT, SO, UM, I'M JUST LETTING Y'ALL KNOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA GO INTO TOO MUCH CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE COUNTY TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
I KNOW WE'RE UP HERE AT THE DISCUSSION PHASE, BUT MAY I, YEAH, UM, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY POINT.
UM, THAT THE TOWN NOT REPRESENT THAT THE FACTUAL FINDINGS ARE MADE.
IT'S COMPLETELY ON THE COUNTY.
THAT'S WHY I I I HONESTLY DIDN'T, I I, THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPEFUL THAT THE MOTION WOULD NOT NECESSARILY DO ALL THE DIRECTION OF TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO FOR THE REVITALIZATION AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHY, WHY I WAS WILLING TO AMEND MY MOTION OR MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
WHICH IS WHY I SAID LET JUST CONTINUE WITH DISCUSSION TO FIGURE IT OUT.
BECAUSE AS I READ THAT, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WELL I'M NOT CALLING IT THAT.
SO, SO OTHER AREAS, OTHER AREAS, OTHER PLACES HAVE DONE THIS, HAVE PASSED THIS RESOLUTION FOR, FOR HOUSING.
UM, AND MAYBE OTHER AREAS ARE OKAY WITH INDICATING SOMETHING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I'LL JUST, I'M GONNA BE REALLY HONEST WITH Y'ALL FROM THE BEGINNING.
THAT WAS MY, ALL OF MY CONVERSATIONS LAST WEEK WITH EVERYBODY.
IT WAS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE REVITALIZATION IS SUGGESTING AS THOUGH THAT THERE'S AN AREA THAT WAS, UH, YOU HAD A DIFFERENT USE AND NOW YOU'RE REVITALIZING IT.
SO THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND HAD NO, HAD NO USE, THERE WAS NO USE, UM, THERE.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY, IN MY MIND, IT'S NOT REVITALIZATION.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE DISAGREES WITH ME ON THAT.
UM, EVERYBODY THAT I TALKED TO PRETTY MUCH RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICATION IS LOOKING FOR FOR THE ROUTINE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
UM, I DON'T, I MEAN I THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S REVITALIZING.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE WORD WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT USE FOR IT.
SO I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SUGGESTING AS THOUGH THAT, THAT I DON'T WANNA SUPPORT THEM BEING ABLE TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THIS.
I JUST WISH THERE WAS A DIFFERENT WORDS THAT WE COULD USE.
WELL, I WONDER, OKAY, I'M GONNA AMEND MY MOTION IF, WHEN THE DISCUSSION IS OKAY FOR MY MOTION CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE IS OVER.
NOW I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I WONDER IF, I WONDER WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE BECAUSE IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE SOUTH END OF TOWN, THAT IS AN AREA FOR REVITALIZATION, RIGHT? IF YOU BROADEN IT TO SOUTH STREET AND IN THAT WHOLE AREA, RIGHT.
I MEAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A, IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST SAYING THE LOCK OR THE GENERAL AREA PARK JUST PULLING IT UP.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, I THINK THAT ER IS AN AREA THAT WE
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CALL REVITALIZATION.I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE AREAS RIGHT DOWN THERE THAT WE ARE TALKING, WELL, I MEAN THEY HAVE HABITAT MANNY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT IN A CLOSE ENOUGH PROXIMITY TO EAST GREER.
NO, I WAS JUST THINKING FROM THE BACK END OF, UM, WE, YEAH, YEAH.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ MY AMENDMENT OR MY ENTIRE NEW MOTION? TINA, YOU CAN DO AN AMENDMENT NOW.
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
BUT IT, I LIKE TO CHANGE THE, IT'S EASIER TO SUB SUBSTITUTE.
I WOULD PREFER TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IF I COULD.
IT WOULD BE CLEANER FOR YOU PROBABLY.
I MOVE THAT COUNCIL DIRECT THE MAYOR TO SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ASKING THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER MAKING SUCH DESIGNATIONS AFTER THE COUNTY HAS MADE THE REQUIRED STATUTORY FACTUAL DETERMINATIONS FOR THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED 90 UNIT APARTMENT COMMUNITY AS REQUESTED OF JEN, SERVER OF SERVER DEVELOPMENT AND CONSULTING LLC AND ON BEHALF OF HARDWOOD PLACE VIRGINIA, LLC NEED DISCUSSION.
SO THAT'S TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF WHAT THAT USE IS SINCE IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY ULTIMATELY DESIGNATING IT.
AND I, AND I WILL SAY THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING LIKE WITHOUT THIS, WITHOUT A RESOLUTION FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IT WOULD BE A DEAL BREAKER FOR, I MEAN, NOT THAT THEY'RE SAYING IT'S A DEAL, DEAL BREAKER, BUT JUST THAT MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WOULD NOT GET FUNDING FOR IT.
AND, AND THEY NEED THE FUNDING IN ORDER TO MAKE IT FINANCIALLY WORK AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT AS I READ THE RESOLUTION.
I THOUGHT WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL LIBRARY AND A BEAUTIFUL PARK AND A BEAUTIFUL GREENWAY THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.
UM, THERE WAS NO USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY.
CAN WE DO ROLL CALL MS. PRESLEY? COUNCILMAN WOOD? YES.
MS. PRESLEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE NEXT AND, AND, UH, THE THREE OF US WILL GET TOGETHER.
UM, BUT WE'LL, BECAUSE I ASSUME THAT THEY WILL NEED IT BY NEXT TUESDAY'S MEETING FOR THEM BECAUSE I PROBABLY MONDAY TO ADVERTISE.
WELL, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA NEED BY THE END OF THE WEEK THEIR AGENDA.
UM, SORRY TO HAVE TO THROW SOMETHING IN THERE AT THE LAST MINUTE.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AREN'T PREPARED.
UM, SO THE CLOSED MEETING, MADAM MAYOR, MOVE THAT COUNCIL OPEN.
THE TOWN COUNCIL CAN BE ENCLOS MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 2 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES.
ONE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.23711, UH, A ONE THAT VIRGINIA FOR THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OR INTERVIEWS OF CONSTRUCTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, DEPLOYMENTS, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINE OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES, EMPLOYEE BODY, SPECIFICALLY TOWN, PERIOD SECOND.