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[Board of Architectural Review on December 10, 2024.]
LET'S, UH, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE BOARD OF COUNCIL REVIEW.UM, DID EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO CHECK OUT A MINUTE PREVIOUSLY? YES.
EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THAT? YES.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING.
NEW BUSINESS APPLICATION 2 4 0 0 6 3 7.
COULD I INTERRUPT JUST ONE SECOND? I'M JUST YES MA'AM.
SINCE MS. NASH WAS NOT HERE FOR THOSE MEETINGS, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE ON THOSE MINUTES.
UM, WE NEED TO REDO THAT OR I WAS HERE THOUGH.
JUST THAT
MAYBE JUST REDO THAT IF YOU COULD FOR THE RECORD.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING AS PRESENTED.
UM, NEW BUSINESS APPLICATION 6 3 7.
JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO WALK US THROUGH IT? SURE.
SO YOU HAVE APPLICATION 24 0 0 6 3 7 CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS.
UH, THAT IS FOR CONSTRUCTIVE DUPLEX TWO 40 BLUE RIDGE IDENTIFIED TAX MAT NUMBER 20 A SEVEN DASH 4 1 78.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R THREE, WHICH DOES ALLOW DUPLEXES SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWN HOMES IN THE R THREE DISTRICT.
UH, IT IS OBVIOUSLY LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UH, SO THIS REQUIRES MAJOR ACTIONS FROM THE BOARD, NOT FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF TOWN STAFF, UH, 1 75 89 AT THE TOWN CODE PART A TWO CONSTRUCTION OF ANY NEW MAIN BUILDINGS OR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS WHICH EXCEED 500 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IS REVIEWING THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE CANNOT APPROVE THIS.
THIS COMES AT THE BAR FOR REVIEW.
UH, PART OF YOUR MAJOR ACTIONS, THE PLANS INVOLVING NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE BOARD'S CONCERN SHALL FOCUS ON WHETHER THE PLANS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH AND ENHANCE THE HISTORIC OR ARCHITECTURAL VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING STRUCTURES OR AREA.
UH, AND THEN YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL DECISIONS.
AND BRIEFLY STATE YOUR FINDINGS.
UH, YOU HAVE, UH, FOR 1 75 91 LIST YOUR GUIDELINES.
THOSE ARE THE GUIDELINES LISTED IN POUND CODE UNDER 1 75 9 1, AND ARE PART OF YOUR HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
THOSE, UH, FOR THE REVIEWING BODY, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT YOU SHOULD, UH, USE TO DETERMINE, UH, APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF ANY OF THESE APPLICATIONS SUCH AS THESE SO APPROPRIATELY, YOU KNOW, GENERAL DESIGN, THE CHARACTER AND APPROPRIATENESS TO FORM PROPORTION OF SCALE, MASS CONFIGURATION, ARRANGEMENT, TEXTURE, MATERIAL, AND SO FORTH.
UH, YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE GUIDELINES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE VIEWING BODY SHALL NOT ADOPT OR IMPOSE ANY SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
SO THAT IS, UH, NOT IN YOUR PURVIEW TO DETERMINE THAT.
UH, YOU SHOULD BE REVIEWING AGAIN, AS THE GUIDELINE STATES.
UH, SO UNDER NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS IN YOUR GUIDELINE.
UH, THE GUIDELINES OFFER JUST GENERAL RECOMMENDATION ON THE DESIGN OF ALL NEW BUILDINGS.
UH, AND THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA ARE ALL IMPORTANT, WHEN TO CONSIDER WHETHER PROPOSED NEW BUILDINGS ARE APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE.
SO IT GOES OVER TO FOUNDATION, UH, THE MATERIALS AND TEXTURE, UH, THE BUILDING TYPES WITHIN HISTORIC, UH, DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY CONFI, UH, CONSIDERED AN INFIELD LOT BECAUSE THE, THE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY, UH, YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF, UH, CAUGHT ON FIRE AND NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED.
SO RESIDENTIAL INFIELD BUILDINGS ARE NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED ON AN OCCASIONAL VACANT LOT WITHIN A BLOCK OF HISTORIC EXISTING HISTORIC HOUSES.
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SETBACK, SPACING AND GENERAL MASSING OF THE NEW DWELLING ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT CRITERIA THAT SHOULD RELATE TO THE EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURES AND ORIENTATION.NEW BUILDINGS SHALL BE ORIENT ORIENTATED IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS SURROUNDING BUILDINGS AND WHERE POSSIBLE, THE FRONT OF THE FACE OF THE BUILDING SHOULD MATCH THE EXISTING FRONT SETBACKS OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN THE VICINITY.
TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UH, THEY DID GIVE A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION WITH MATERIAL.
SO JUST POINT OUT, UH, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS.
UH, ROOF MATERIAL, COMMON ROOF MATERIAL IS METAL SLATE AND ASPHALT SHINGLES.
UH, PART TWO C THERE, UH, IN USING ASPHALT SHINGLES, DO NOT USE LIGHT COLLARS CONSIDERED USING DARKER TEXTURED SHINGLES THAT RESEMBLE SLATE OR WOOD SHINGLES.
SO THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA, UH, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER FOR THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UH, PORCHES ALSO IS IMPORTANT.
MOST THE FRONT ROWS HISTORIC HOUSES HAVE SOME TYPE OF PORCH.
THERE IS MUCH VARIETY AND SIZE, LOCATION, AND TYPE OF PORCHES.
AND THIS VARIETY RELATES TO DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
SO PORCHES IS A PROMINENT PART OF THE DISTRICT.
UH, SO THERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, FORMER HOUSE THERE AT THE CORNER OF TWO, UH, TWO 40 THERE AT THE CORNER OF BLUE RIDGE IN EAST PROSPECT STREET.
THAT'S THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE FORMER HOME THERE.
UH, THEY DID HAVE AN EXISTING, UH, PLAT OF THE EXISTING HOME THERE, A PLAT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE THERE.
SO THIS IS EXISTS, UH, WHERE THE OLD HOUSE WAS ON THIS LOT.
UH, THEY HAVE PROPOSED, UH, A DUPLEX TO COME ON THIS LOT, WHICH IS MATTER, RIGHT? UH, THEY DID ADJUST THE SETBACKS.
THE SETBACKS NOTED ON YOUR DRAWING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ADJOINING PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTH.
SO THEY CAN, UH, USE THE SAME SETBACKS OF THE AS ADJOINING PROPERTY AS ALLOWED PER TOWN CODE.
THEY DO MEET THE ZONING REGULATIONS ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE CONFIGURATION OF THAT, AGAIN IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT OR SHOULD BE.
AND IT'S REALLY RIGHT ON THE BORDER.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE LOT TO THE REAR OF THAT IS NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND 3 0 8 AND THREE 11 BLUE RIDGE ARE, IS NOT.
SO THOSE LOTS HIGHLIGHTED THERE ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UH, SO THEY DID, UH, SUBMIT A SCOPE OF WORK.
UH, THEY'RE PREPARING TO DO 30 YEAR ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES, SHINGLES, BLACK AND COLLAR, UH, SMART SIDING, AND THE STONE WATER TABLE IN THE FRONT.
A STANDING SCENE, BLACK METAL ROOF OVER THE PORCHES AND BAY WINDOWS, UH, UH, A UH, GABLE SCALLOP OR SHAPED SIDING.
UH, THEY HAVE PICTURES OF THAT IN YOUR PACKET.
THEY WILL DO A REAR DECK OUT OF TRX WITH HANDRAILS.
AND IN BETWEEN THE, UH, DECK FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES, THERE'LL BE A PRIVACY FENCE INSTALLED THAT'S SUBMITTED IN HERE.
UH, THEY'LL DO A WOOD SIX FOOT WOOD PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE REAR, UH, BLACK METAL DOOR CONCRETE FOUNDATION AND SIDEWALKS.
THE FRONT PORCH WILL BE THE SAME AS THE REAR DECK.
UH, THEY'RE PRO PROPOSING WHITE ALUMINUM GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS WITH WHITE SOFFIT AND TRIM.
DO DOUBLE HUNG VINYL WINDOWS WITH NO GRILLS AND THEY'LL ADD TWO WINDOWS ON THE SIDE OF PROSPECT STREET, ANNA, A BAY WINDOW.
THEY WILL SOD THE AND LANDSCAPE THE YARD AND THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE OUTTA ASPHALT.
THAT'S IN YOUR SCOPE OF WORK WITHIN THE PACKET.
JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE, UH, INFORMATION WITH YOUR PACKET.
UH, THERE'S A RENDERING OF WHAT THE HOUSE, UH, PROPOSED WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, WITH A FRONT PORCH, AGAIN, WITH THE METAL STANDING, STANDING METAL ROOF ON THE FRONT, UH, COLUMNS THERE ON THE FRONT WITH THE FRONT PORCH.
UM, THE SIDE OF ONE OF THE EXISTING HOMES, THEY HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR, THE L TWO TWO WINDOWS WITH THE BAY WINDOW ON THE SIDE ON PROSPECT STREET.
UH, SO THE REAR DECK WILL BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE THEY'LL HAVE A DIVIDER, HAVE A REAR DECK AND A PRIVACY FENCE SEPARATING THE TWO DECKS IN THE BACK.
SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR THAT JUST GIVE YOU A VISUAL WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE BACK REAR DECK.
UH, THERE'S THE DIVIDER AGAIN TO AGAIN THE PRIVACY BETWEEN THE TWO UNITS.
UM, SO BASICALLY THAT'S THE, UH, UH, APPLICATION, UH, IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AGAIN, ONLY THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL APPRO, UH, BOARD OF ARKANSAS REVIEW CAN APPROVE OR DENY THESE APPLICATIONS.
UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY THEY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, UH, WHICH YOU ALL DID DENY.
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SO THEY RESUBMITTED WITH, THEY TOOK IN CONSIDERATION YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVE RESUBMITTED.DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? NO.
CAN YOU BRING UP THE IMAGE OF THE FRONT FAC SIDE PLEASE? THAT'S GREAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PARKING.
I REMEMBER THAT THAT WAS A, A QUESTION THAT CAME UP WHEN THE MM-HMM
FIRST HERE WAS WHAT WAS EVENTUALLY RESOLVED ABOUT, UH, YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE SUBMITTED A PLAT, SO THEY'LL HAVE PARKING, UH, FOR THE END UNIT ON OFF OF PROSPECT STREET AND PARKING FOR THE OTHER UNIT WOULD COME OFF OF BLUE RIDGE.
SO THEY'LL HAVE PARKING HERE IN THE REAR FOR PAR, UH, PROSPECT STREET AND OFF OF HERE FOR BLUE RIDGE FOR THIS UNIT HERE.
SO THEY CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PER TOWN CODE.
THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT TREE, RIGHT? UM, NEAR THAT FRONT DRIVEWAY OR IS THAT ON THE, THE BIG TREE? YEAH, IT'S JUST A LIMB TRIM.
YEAH, WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT MOVING THE SETBACK AND THAT WOULD'VE TO MOVE THE DRIVEWAY? NO, THAT'S ALL THAT ALL WORKED OUT.
AND IF I DON'T HAVE TO TRIM THE LIMB WHEN I GET THERE, I WON'T DO THAT.
MY TIME WILL GET ANY, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? NO, I DON'T.
EVERYBODY'S FINE WITH THE, HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.
I'LL PUT THAT BACK ON YOUR DRAWING.
SO, UH, THAT RENDERING THAT YOU, OR DO YOU WANT THE, UH, RENDER SCOPE OF WORK OR THE RENDERING UP? UM, PUT THE RENDERING.
YOU'VE GOT THE, YEAH, LET'S DO THE RENDERING FIRST.
IS IT, YOU GUYS HAVE A SET ANSWER FOR THIS THING OR IS THIS JUST THAT'S NO, THAT'S, IT'S IT.
I'M PUTTING THAT FACADE ON MY, SEE, OUR OTHER PROBLEM WAS LAST TIME WAS MY LAYOUT ON THE INSIDE WORKS PERFECT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT THIS FRONT THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OLD HOUSE.
IT WORKS PERFECT FOR MY HOUSE ON THE INSIDE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO ON THE OUTSIDE.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER FOUND THAT I DIDN'T REALLY YEAH.
PINTEREST OR SOMEWHERE SHE WENT SHOPPING FOR ME.
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT FITS IN A LOT BETTER.
UM, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE AND THE REASON I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU HAD A, A, A SCHEMATIC OF ANY KIND THAT SHOWS THE, THE HEIGHT OF THAT PEAK OF THE ROOF AND HOW, SO WE COULD KIND OF VISUALIZE THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, HOW TALL, HOW TALL THAT ROOF IS.
DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE A TOTAL OF 34 FEET.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE NO TALLER THAN ANY OF THEM.
THAT ARE STRUCTURES AROUND YOU.
IT WON'T BE TALLER THAN THE STRUCTURE WAS THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE TRYING TO CONFIRM IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE FRONT, IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE LIKE MOVING LARGE OVER NO, IT WON'T PROPERTIES NO, SIR.
BUT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE WILL DICTATE THE MAXIMUM.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY, UH, ANY FEEDBACK ON, ON THAT RENDERING? NO.
I THINK IT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS THAT, I KNOW THAT'S JUST A RENDERING, BUT ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING ON DOING LIKE A TWO-ONE THING LIKE THAT? YES, SIR.
AND, UH, THE WATER TABLE ON TOP WHERE THE ROOF IS ABOVE THE TOP WINDOWS.
NICE TO MATCH THE FRONT BECAUSE IT SHOWS IT AS STANDING SCENE NOW.
BUT IT WASN'T NOTED ON THE PLANS.
UM, MATERIALS WISE, I MEAN, I DO YOU GOT THE METAL ROOF ON THERE.
I THINK THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A HUGE THING FOR US TO HAVE A, TO HAVE THAT METAL ROOF IN MOVE OF SHINGLES.
I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT ON THE PORCH AND EVERYTHING.
DOING, GONNA SHINGLE THE REST OF IT THOUGH.
OH, THEY'RE SH YOUR SHINGLE AND THE MANUS.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER EXAMPLES OF THE HOUSE THAT HAS A METAL TORCH ROOF AND A SHINGLE MAIN ROOF ON THAT STREET? I KNOW THERE'S HOUSES ALL AROUND THERE WITH SHINGLE ROOFS AND METAL ROOFS FURTHER DOWN BLUE RIDGE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOME POINT THAT'S OUT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO WHEN THE MAIN ROOF NEEDED REPAIR, THEY'RE FACING TWO DIFFERENT WAVES RIGHT POINT.
AND IT'S, IT'S A 24, I PRICED IT, IT'S $24,000 MORE TO DO THAT METAL ROOF I GAVE YOU.
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SCHEMATICS, IT SAYS IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, SH IT DON'T SAY WE CAN'T USE SHINGLES THIS IF IT'S IN THERE.THEY HAVE TO BE ARCHITECTURAL AND DARKENED COLOR AND WERE ARCHITECTURAL AND BLACK.
I THOUGHT IT SAID FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IT HAD TO BE.
IT SAYS ON FLICK IT'S CONFLICTING.
CAN I JUST POINT TO A PIECE ON AND ASK A QUESTION PLEASE? I THINK YOU ALREADY ANSWERED IT ABOUT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY PLEASE.
THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE WILL BE METAL.
BUT THEN IT SAYS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION TWO, WHICH PORTION ARE YOU LOOKING AT? NEW CONSTRUCTION UNDER THE ROOF.
SO ROOF MATERIALS, COMMON MATERIALS AND HISTORIC DITCH INCLUDE METAL SLATE, ASPHALT SHINGLES POINT A NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT USED TRADITIONAL ROOFING MATERIALS SUCH AS METAL OR SLATE B, AVOID USING THICK WOOD CEDAR SHAKES IF USING WOOD SHINGLES INSTEAD USE MORE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE WOOD SHINGLES, WHICH ARE THINNER AND HAVE A SMOOTHER FINISH.
AND C, IN USING ASPHALT SHINGLES, DO NOT USE LIGHT COLORS.
CONSIDER USING DARKER TEXTURE SHINGLES THAT RESEMBLE SLATE FOR WHICH ONES.
SO IT'S LIKE, IT SAYS TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.
JUST FROM A CODE STANDPOINT MM-HMM
THERE'S NO MENTION OF SHALL IN THERE MM-HMM
WHICH WHEN WE LOOK AT AN ENFORCEMENT MM-HMM
WITHOUT THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE MM-HMM
IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO ENFORCE THAT.
EXPLAINING HOW THE CODE IS INTERPRETED.
UM, AND WE CAN SHORE UP THIS LANGUAGE AS WE EDIT THIS.
BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT DOING US ANY, ANY GOOD AT ALL.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO HANG UP ON THE ROOF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S AN EXPENSIVE THING AND YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY COME BACK AGAIN.
YOU'VE CHANGED THE WHOLE FACADE.
I THINK IT REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, IN MY OPINION, IT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WHAT I HAVE.
YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, I THINK IT LOOKS, I THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY NICE, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF TONIGHT, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR MOTIONS, YOU NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE DETAILS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE MOTIONS.
I DON'T, IT'S IN MY WELL, IT'S IN THE SCOPE.
LIKE THE COLUMNS WITH THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE TAPER.
YOU NEED TO, WELL IT'S THAT, IT'S IN MY PICTURE.
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DREAMING ABOUT HOW BUILT, SO I THINK FOR ME, THE, THE CONVERSATION BECOMES REALLY ABOUT THE MATERIAL.
AND THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE GONNA USE.
UM, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION GUIDELINES WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THEM.
AND THAT'S WHY I KNEW THERE'S CONFLICT WITH THE SHINGLES AND THE METAL ROOF.
UM, AND IT'S EVEN, I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT, IF THIS IS ALL JUST ABOUT SHALL, THEN WHY DO WE EVEN EXIST? YOU SHOULD.
SO I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S HARD FOR ME BECAUSE THE GUIDELINES DO CLEARLY STATE THAT THE MATERIALS SHOULD BE COMMON TO WHAT'S IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
NOT METAL DOORS, WOOD DOORS, NOT VINYL WINDOW.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE SHINGLES ARE ALLOWED THERE, THEY SAY NEW CONSTRUCTION METAL.
AND PRIOR TO ME BEING ON THIS BOARD, THIS BOARD HAS MADE A DECISION TO MAKE PEOPLE REMOVE SHINGLES AND PUT METAL THAT CORE METAL WAS.
SO I, IS IT A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION? BECAUSE ITEM TWO IS ALL ENCOMPASSING.
A IS SPECIFICALLY THAT NEW AND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT DOES NOT IMPLY THAT B AND C IS ALSO NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IT'S UNDERNEATH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION SECTION IN THE HISTORICAL GUIDELINES.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT FALLS IS UNDER THOSE NEW CONSTRUCTION GUIDELINES.
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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.YOU NEED, WE WANT TO SEE WOOD WINDOWS.
WE WANT SEE WOOD DOORS AND WOODSIDE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT.
I UNDERST AND YOU'RE I KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO NOT WOOD, UM, WOOD WITNESS DON'T EXIST.
THEY'RE NOT GO, I MEAN, I HAVE TO WATCH THE WAY I SAY STUFF 'CAUSE I'M NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
UM, I'M GONNA HOLD BACK, UH, WOOD WINDOWS HISTORICALLY CORRECT.
BUT A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD, IF SOMEBODY DON'T PAINT 'EM, THEY'RE GONNA FALL APART.
YOU MIGHT APPROVE YOU WANTING WOOD WINDOWS.
AND IF SOMEBODY AGREES TO PUT THEM IN, WHAT DO YOU WANT A YEAR FROM NOW? YOU'RE GONNA, YOU CAN ASK FOR WOOD HAND RAILS, WOOD HAND RAILS TODAY, SIX MONTHS A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD, UH, IS GONNA START FALLING APART.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORICAL THING.
THERE'S ONE THING IN THIS TOWN THAT Y'ALL DO HISTORICAL THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH, BUT I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THAT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND BEAUTIFYING Y'ALL'S HISTORICAL DISTRICT DON'T DEGRADE IT WITH, UH, DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING, IT'S YOUR HISTORIC DISTRICT TOO.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S, IT'S HARD.
AND OUR TOWN FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO ADOPT THESE GUIDELINES TO PRESERVE WHAT'S THERE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK NO MORE.
UH, BECAUSE WHEN I SPEAK IT, IT GOES A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
SO I'VE OFFERED, NOW Y'ALL HAVE TO TELL ME I'VE PRESENTED AND I HAVE TO BACK OFF BECAUSE I SAID IT AS IT WAS AT, AS THIS MEETING PORTRAYED LAST TIME.
I CAN, I'M NOT, I COULD NOT DO THAT AGAIN.
SO I WANT THIS TO GO THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
SO I I'M GONNA LET YOU TALK IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? GEORGE CLINE.
UM, SO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A PORCH IS WE OWNED CHESTER STREET PROPERTY AND WE TORE THE OLD WOOD PORCH OFF.
WE PUT THE BRICK COLUMNS BACK LIKE THEY WERE, WE DID THE WOOD, WE DID THE WOOD FRAME, WE DID A VINYL WRAPPED BOARD ON THE OUTSIDE WHITE.
WE PUT THE EXACT PROFILE VINYL COLUMNS ON.
WE DID THE EXACT SAME PICKET, BUT IN A VINYL MATERIAL.
WE DID THE TRACK TOP IN THE SAME GRAY THAT WAS EXISTING IN THE WOOD.
AND THE COOLEST THING ABOUT THAT IS I DID THAT 10, 10 YEARS AGO AND I RODE BY IT TODAY AND TOOK SOME PICTURES AND IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE IT DID 10 YEARS AGO.
IT DOESN'T LOOK A BIT DIFFERENT.
THERE'S NO PAINT SCALING OFF OF IT AND FROM THE STREET.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN TELL ME THAT THAT DOES NOT LOOK HISTORICAL FROM THE STREET.
RIGHT? I DON'T IT IS THE SAME HEADER RAIL WITH THE SAME PICKET, BUT JUST IN A FINAL MATERIAL.
NO, NO, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE MAINTENANCE AND LONGEVITY STANDPOINT.
I MEAN, WOULDN'T YOU, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE WINDOWS BEFORE I CAME TODAY TO BUY A CHEAP WOOD WINDOW.
IT IS SIX TO $800 FOR A 3 0 5.
THAT'S A CHEAP WOOD WINDOW TO BUY A HIGH END WINDOW WITH, UH, ARGON GLASS MAKING IT THERMAL EFFICIENT.
SO IT'S NEARLY DOUBLE TO BUY IT.
THE WINDOWS IN THAT PLACE DOWN THERE ARE THE HIGH THERMAL WINDOWS.
AND WE JUST DID THE WOOD TRIM AROUND THEM.
AND, AND TO ME THEY LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID WHEN WE TOOK 'EM OUT.
WE USED THE SAME GLASS EXCEPT IT WAS JUST NOT SINGLE PANE GLASS.
THIS IS TRIPLE PANE GLASS WITH THE GAS IN MAKING IT EFFICIENT.
I SAID THAT TO SAY THIS IS, I AGREE WITH THE HISTORICAL THING.
I I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT AT ALL.
BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THERE'S GOTTA BE, TO ME, I WROTE UP BLUE RIDGE TODAY AND I'VE TOOK SOME PICTURES TO ME IT WOULD BE BETTER TO RIDE UP BLUE RIDGE.
THERE'S 3, 4, 4 PORCHES FALLING
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OFF UP THERE.TO ME IT WOULD BE BETTER TO REPLACE THOSE PORCHES WITH A MATERIAL THAT'S GONNA LAST FOR MULTI YEARS MM-HMM
THAN TO PUT A WOOD ON AIR THAT'S GONNA FLAKE, PEEL, CHIP AND ROT IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR BECAUSE IT'LL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
SO IN THAT, TO ME BLUE RIDGE AVENUE, I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM IT.
THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T LIVE IN A COUNTY WHERE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO BUY A HISTORICAL HOUSE DONE OUT OF A HIGH MAINTENANCE MATERIAL.
THE MAINTENANCE COST AND OPERATING COST TO A PROJECT LIKE THAT IS ASTRONOMICAL TO KEEP IT LOOKING RISK AND CLEAN.
SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE FOR ME IS YOU GOTTA FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM IN THE ROAD.
AND IF YOU DO THAT TO ME, THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT WILL LOOK A WHOLE LOT BETTER.
BUT THERE'S NOBODY AROUND THAT WILL BUY A 700 TO $800,000 HOUSE RIGHT NOW SITTING ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE WITH A TOWNHOUSE SITTING ACROSS THE ROAD IN ALL VINYL.
NOW I AGREE WITH MS. SADERS ON ONE THING IS THAT IF SOMEBODY WAS GONNA BITE, THEY NEED TO LIVE IN IT.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME COMPASSION TO LIVE IN A HISTORICAL HOUSE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT IN THOSE TIMES.
THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MAINTAIN A HISTORICAL HOUSE AND TO KEEP THOSE THINGS UP AND ALIVE.
BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, YOU GOTTA FIND THAT MEDIUM TO HELP CLEAN THE STREET UP BUT ALSO MAINTAIN THE STREET.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN OUR, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE LIVE.
THAT'S WHAT THESE MEETINGS ARE ALWAYS ABOUT.
AND SO KIND MIDDLE GROUND, THAT'S THE KEY.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST MY OPINION AND I, I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM BECAUSE WE, WE ALL LIVE HERE.
WE KNOW THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE THROUGH DOWNTOWN WARRENTON AND IT'S A DIFFERENT BALLGAME.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME.
BALLGAME MUST BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, HOUSE WAS SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF 40 HISTORICAL HOMES.
YOU'VE GOTTA REPLACE THAT HOUSE EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS.
THE OTHER BIG PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS YOU GOT, YOU GOT A HOUSE SITTING IN AN R THREE DISTRICT, IT JUST SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
THERE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN AN R THREE ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN R ONE.
SO THAT'S ALL IT COULD BE REPLACED WITH.
WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT
AND IF I MAY, I THINK YOU, YOU'RE PART OF THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR YOU AS THE BAR MEMBERS, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROOF, IT TELLS US HERE, NEW CONSTRUCTION IF YOU WANT THE, UH, THE OPINION OR INTERPRETATION FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT.
IT TELLS US HERE, COMMON ROOF MATERIALS SHOULD INCLUDE METAL SLATE AND ASPHALT SHINGLES.
SO ANY OF THOSE THREE CAN BE USED.
NO, I, I IT SAID THAT THAT'S WHAT, WHAT EXISTS.
SO COMMON ROOF MATERIALS IN THE DISTRICT INCLUDED, MEANING THAT'S WHAT'S THERE.
SO WE HAVE METAL ROOFS, SLATE ROOF AND ASPHALT SHINGLES.
WHEN WE START NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THESE, FOR ALL THREE ROOFING MATERIALS SUCH AS METAL OR SLATE, THAT'S TRADITIONAL ONES.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE WOOD SHINGLES, THEY'RE TELLING YOU THOSE WOOD SHINGLES SHOULD BE THINNER THAN THE REAL THICK ONES THAT WERE PRODUCED YEARS AGO.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE ASPHALT SHINGLES, THEY NEED TO BE DARKER TEXTURED SHINGLES AND NOT, NOT LIGHT ONES.
SO YOU USE THOSE CRITERIA IN THE DISTRICT OR THE STREET YOU ARE WORKING IN.
SO THOSE AREAS IN BLUE RIDGE WOULD NOT BE THE SAME ON LEE STREET FOR EXAMPLE.
SO ON BLUE RIDGE YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF METAL ROOF AND SHINGLE ROOFS ON THAT STREET.
SO THAT'S WHY IT TELLS US YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICT WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND BASICALLY PER STREET.
SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING THE SAME HOUSE ON BLUE RIDGE THAT YOU HAVE ON LEE STREET AND THE SAME TYPE OF MATERIAL.
YOU'RE DOING AN INFIELD LOT HERE.
THAT SHOULD MATCH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOFS ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE WHERE THE
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ASPHALT SHINGLES LOOK LIKE SLATE OR WOODTHERE ARE ASPHALT SHINGLES OUT.
BUT THEY DON'T RESEMBLE SLATE OR WOOD.
YOU CAN'T LEAVE PART OF THE SENTENCE OFF.
BUT Y'ALL GOTTA FIX YOUR SENTENCE AFTER ME.
THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DEVELOPED FOR.
THEY'RE NOT THREE TAB SHINGLES.
I KNOW THEY HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT LOOKED LIKE THE WOODEN SHAKES FROM YEARS AGO.
DON'T THEY MAKE ARCHITECTURE OR DON'T THEY MAKE SHINGLES THAT LOOK LIKE SLATE? THEY DO NOW.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK THEY'RE GETTING AT HERE.
THERE'S A, I LOOKED AT IT FROM MY HOUSE, THERE'S LIKE A CERTAIN BRAND OR SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT THEY, THEY'RE SHAPED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT THEY DO LOOK LIKE SLATE.
BUT THAT'S GOTTA BE VERY SPECIFIC IN YOUR GUIDELINES.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S SAYING ASPHALT ARCHITECTURAL ASPHALT SHINGLES.
THAT'S A WIDE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A WIDE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE.
THEY DO NOT WANT THREE TAB SHINGLES.
THEY WANT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE SHINGLES.
IT ALSO HAS THAT WORD CONSIDER IN IT.
THEY CAN CONSIDER USING METAL SLATE WOOD SHINGLES OR ASPHALT SHINGLES DEPENDING ON THE DISTRICT.
WELL YOU HAVE A LOT OF TERMINOLOGY IN HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF RECOMMENDED MM-HMM
AND CONSIDERED THAT'S A PROBLEM.
DO IT THEN YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE IT SO IT SAYS THIS IS REQUIRED.
WELL THE THING IS, THE WAY THERE ARE GUIDELINES, BECAUSE NOT EVERY STREET IN HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THE SAME.
AND I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT BLUE RIDGE.
YOU GOT HOUSES BUILT IN THE 1890S AND HOUSES BUILT IN THE 1990S.
IT BUILT UP THE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE WAS WAS STUNNING.
WE HAVE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIVE IN THOSE KIND OF TIMES ANYMORE.
AND WE HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPROMISE ON SOME OF THESE MATERIALS.
THE PROB WHERE WE GET HUNG UP ON, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAYS THEY WANNA PUT IN VINYL WINDOWS OR VINYL SIDING.
WE GET HUNG UP 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE, OH GOD, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A TRAILER.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH? IT'S LIKE, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS CLUNKY, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO AN OLD HOUSE.
IT JUST, HERE THE PROFILES ARE WAY DIFFERENT.
WHEN WE WAS HERE LAST TIME MM-HMM
I BRUNG THE WINDOW AND WE NEVER GOT TO LOOK AT IT.
THAT'S THE KIND, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I WANNA SEE SPECIFICALLY DETAILED OUT IN HERE.
MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
WE'RE GONNA USE A FAN, I THINK FAN SLIM LINE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.
I KNOW YOU GUYS, YOU'RE USING THE, YOU SHOWED US THE SIDING.
IT'S GOT THE WOOD GRAIN IN IT.
FROM A DISTANCE YOU'D NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL.
IT IS WOOD S SID, IT'S WOOD S IT'S WOOD SIDD.
IT IS PARTICLE BOARD WITH PLASTIC WITH A 30 YEAR WARRANTY.
THAT I CAN TAKE A PIECE OF SIDING AND STICK IT IN A BUCKET OF WATER, WALK, WALK AWAY AND LATER AND THE SAME PIECE SING.
IT'S AN ENGINEERED WOOD PRODUCT.
WITH PLASTIC, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARTICLE BOARD AND ORIENTED STRAND BOARD.
UM, ANYWAY, I WAS, I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SAY THIS 'CAUSE I WAS THE ONLY ONE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME.
THE PLACE YOU DID ON C STREET.
HE TOLD US IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING DO CAME OUT LOOKING GREAT AND IT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE IT IS REAL WOOD.
YOU HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE HOUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE? YES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
I LOVE THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH AND I'M, I'D LOVE TO TAKE YOU FOR YOUR, ON YOUR WORK.
I KNOW YOU'RE MANAGER YOUR WORK.
THE PROBLEM IS, I NEED IT ON PAPER.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ON PAPER? IF WE LOOK ON PAPER
WHATCHA LOOKING FOR SIR? I CAN ADD THAT IN THERE.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
LIKE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE RAILINGS, YOU CAN GET A SPECIFIC PROFILE OF RAILINGS THAT, THAT'S MORE ACCURATE TO THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS.
YOU KNOW, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET.
AND IT'S NOT UP TO INTERPRETATION DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, I JUST, I WANT TO BE SPECIFIC WITH THIS AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO VAGUE RIGHT NOW.
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PUT THE SPECIFIC MM-HMMPROFILE YOU WANT IN YOUR MOTION.
AND THEN WE WOULD INSPECT, LIKE WHEN WE GO AND DO LIKE OUR FINAL COMPLIANCE, WHEN JOHN GOES OUT THERE TO INSPECT IT, HE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
THAT'S, I CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU BEFORE I, YOU CAN PUT IT IN YOUR MOTION.
I CAN SEND YOU PICTURES OF IT.
I CAN BRING YOU A SAMPLE OF IT.
THE LAST THING I WANNA DO HERE TONIGHT IS LEAVE AND COME BACK TWO MONTHS LATER.
SO I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING I'VE BUILT FOR 35 YEARS.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S GONNA BE ON THAT HOUSE, SIR.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT HOUSE I'VE BUILT.
LET'S JUST ALTER THAT PAPER LIKE SHE'S SAYING.
JUST MAKE YOUR NUMBER DEDUCTIONS AND MAKE YOUR MOTIONS.
I HAD TO, WHEN TO HEAR LAST TIME IT WAS SLIM LINE.
WE LOOKED FOR, ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S, LET'S DETAIL THAT OUT.
AND WE WRITE THAT DOWN IN OUR, THE LADY IN THE CENTER YESTERDAY LAST TIME.
SHE SAID, HOW DO I KNOW HE'S GONNA DO IT RIGHT TO MY FACE? SIGN IT.
YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.
WELL IT'S ABOUT LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST DO IT ABOUT CROSSING THE, I'S THE PEOPLE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE FLIPPING HOUSES AND HAVE LIGHTS.
AND, 'CAUSE I KNOW IN, UM, MAYBE EVEN HOLLY'S WINDOWS, WHEN SHE CAME IN BEFORE THE BAR, THEY APPROVED VINYL WINDOWS THAT SHE HAD TO KEEP THE WOOD AROUND THE EXTERIOR.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? HERE'S HERE'S THE WRITTEN SCOPE OF WORK.
SO IF YOU NEED TO AMEND OR CLARIFY WHERE THE BIG WIDE, CAN IT BE WOOD, PUT A VINYL WINDOW IN IT.
AND YOU CAN'T TELL US MR. SHOUT, CAN YOU DO THAT? IT'S IF YOU SEE THE PICTURE OF THE HOUSE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
IT HAS THE WOOD BOARD AROUND IT.
AND IT'S THE, IT'S IN THE PICTURE, SO IT'S IN MY PLAN.
I CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT'S WHAT I MEAN FROM THAT PICTURE.
IT'S NOT A, AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING.
IT SAYS THIS IS WHAT THE THING WE'RE GONNA, YOU WOULD, YOU COULD DO THAT MINUTES, YOU COULD DO THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE HOUSE.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE HOUSE.
SO JUST ADD IT IN YOUR MINUTES.
I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE ON THERE.
AND THEN THE VINYL ON THE INSIDE.
ON THE DESCRIPTION OF THIS IS MOSTLY TO HELP US SO THAT WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE INSPECT IT, WE, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
I GET A LITTLE OFF THE QUEUE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
BUT IT, WHERE IT SAYS, WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE ROOF THAT ANYTHING METAL ROOF.
CAN WE ADD, UM, WHERE IT SAYS BLACK METAL ROOF ON THE FRONT PORCH AND BAY WINDOWS.
BUT THAT, I DON'T THINK WATER TABLE'S THE RIGHT WORD, BUT JUST I KNOW IT HAD THE NAME.
BUT MAYBE THE, THE BOTTOM OF THE PEDIMENT.
I KNOW THE, THAT TRIANGLE PIECE IS CALLED THE PEDIMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOTTOM STRIP IS CALLED.
BUT CAN WE ADD THAT DESCRIPTION TO THAT LINE? WE'LL JUST, WE'LL CALL IT A WATER TABLE FOR NOW, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN JUST WRITE BLACK METAL ACROSS THE PLAN IF YOU WISH.
THE SMALL METAL ROOF AT THE FACE OF THE GABLE.
WE ALWAYS CALLED 'EM EYEBROWS.
THERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
I'M SITTING HERE GOING FOR, I'M GOING THROUGH MY BRAIN.
WHAT THE RIGHT, THEY'RE CALLED EYEBROW EYEBROWS.
SO TECHNICAL, I MEAN YOU JUST WRITE, THEY REALLY, IT'S NOT AN EYEBROW, WHICH THERE'S A DEFINITE WORD FOR IT.
WELL I HAVE THE, UH, SCOPE OF WORK UP THERE.
THEN THERE'S A PAPER COPY IF YOU WANT TO, UH, VIEW THOSE AND ADD TO THE WRITTEN COPY BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL.
THAT WAY WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, YOU'RE JUST WAITING ON THE LIST.
SO WE'VE GOT 30 YEAR ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES, BLACK IN COLOR ON THE MAIN ROOF.
WE NEED TO PUT THAT, CLARIFY THAT LP SMART SIDING, SAGE IN COLOR, ENTIRE HOUSE.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT.
THE WHAT? NET NETTE IS THAT? NO, THAT'S, I KNOW THERE'S A SMALL ROOM UNDER THE PEDIMENT LISTED TO CALLED ANETTE.
WITH THE SITING, YOU WANT THE, THE HORIZONTAL SIDING ON THE, THE MAIN BODY OF THE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN RATHER DOWN THE GABLE HAS THAT, IT'S GONNA BE THE SH CORRECT.
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SAME MATERIAL? YES.IT, IT IS THAT OR HAR YES, IT'S THAT.
AND WHAT I WAS GONNA DO IS GET ONE THAT MATCHED THE SCALLOPS THAT WAS ON THE HOUSE THERE.
BECAUSE AT LUNCHTIME I GO BACK, WELL THEY'RE JUST UH, DOWN AND THEY JUST SQUARE CORNERS OFF.
IT'S JUST A SQUARE CORNER CUT OFF OF 'EM.
SO I WAS GONNA TRY TO GET SOMETHING THAT MATCHED THOSE.
IS IT THAT IT'S THAT MATERIAL THAT PAID? YES.
CAN YOU CUT THE CORNERS OFF THAT? NO.
WE'LL, WE'LL FIND SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO IT.
THE EXPOSED STONE WATER TABLE IN THE FRONT OF BOTH UNITS.
YOU SEEN BLACK METAL ROOF OVER FRONT PORCHES AND BAY WINDOWS AND EYEBROW.
HONEY HAS LOOKED THAT UP AND COME UP, CAME UP WITH THE TERM BRUNETTE BRUNETTE THE U OR AN I-L-U-N-M-E TT E FOUNDATION B.
THEY CAN'T SAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SEE A FOUNDATION ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE.
WE GOT BIG SUGAR AS OPPOSED TO THE HEARTY PLAN GOING ON.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT ANOTHER PAGE HERE OF TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FOUNDATION.
ON THE, UM, I'M LOOKING ON THE SIDE OF THE UNIT WHERE YOU ALL PUT THAT BAY WINDOW IN THERE.
I CAN'T REALLY TELL IN THIS PICTURE.
IS THE HARDY PLANK GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GRASS OR ARE WE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE SOME FOUNDATION DOWN THERE? YOU'LL SEE SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF FOUNDATION.
I'VE GOTTA HAVE THE SIDING AT LEAST EIGHT INCHES OFF THE GROUND.
I JUST CAN'T SEE IT IN THE PICTURE.
AND THAT WE PAINTED THE SAME PAINTED CONCRETE.
WE GOT THE FRONT ELEVATION GABLE, THE SCALLOP OR SHAPED VINYL SIDING.
WE GOT THE REAR TRACK DECK, MILE HANDRAILS, PRIVACY WALLS.
THE ONE THING THAT WE WANT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON USING OR WHAT IT'S EVEN CALLED, BUT THE, THE STYLE OF HANDRAILS.
UH, WE USE A SQUARE ONE, BUT I CAN PRESENT YOU THE SPECS TO IT AND EVERYTHING BEFORE WE INSTALL IT.
THEY'RE APPROVING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WELL WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE A, WE CAN SAY IT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UM, I MEAN THE HOUSE THERE, DIFFERENT PROFILES.
THEIR HOUSE THERE HAD LITTLE SQUARE TUB TWO, UH, TUB OF TWO PICKETS.
SO THIS IS EXACTLY, THIS IS THE SAME THING.
AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OLD HOUSES HAVE.
IT'S JUST A THIN SQUARE TUB OF TWO PICKET.
AND THIS WOULD BE, THIS IS WOULD BE ON THE FRONT AS WELL? NO, THERE, THERE ISN'T NOTHING ON THE FRONT.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE FRONT? NO.
I THINK HE'S THINKING OF THE BOTTOM.
YOU GO BACK TO THE THAT'S CORRECT.
HOW HIGH, HOW TALL IS THAT PORCH? IT'S, IT IS ONLY GONNA BE, I'M GONNA HAVE IT DOWN.
I DON'T LIKE A BUNCH OF STEPS UP TO A HOUSE.
YOU WON'T HAVE TO PICK A RAILING EITHER LESS THAN 24 THAT DON'T HAVE TO PUT A RAILING.
BUT I THINK IT'S CLEANER WITHOUT A RAILING.
AND WHEN YOU GET OLD, YOU APPRECIATE EXACTLY ONE STEP IN
HEY, I LIVE ON A TWO STORY AND I'M ALREADY OH, WISH I WAS IN A RANCH, A DOOR, BLACK METAL.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER OPTIONS FOR OTHER THAN A METAL DOOR? I CAN GET A FIBERGLASS DOOR THAT LOOKS LIKE WOOD.
WE PUT THE, THOSE PANELED ALSO PANEL.
I MEAN SIX PANEL AND NOT JUST FLAT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING.
I COULD GET A FIBERGLASS GRAIN DOOR THAT LOOKS LIKE WOOD.
I MEAN THAT'S UH, YOU KNOW I DO THAT METAL OR FIBERGLASS AS LONG AS IT'S A HANDLE.
BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE GRAIN, IT USUALLY GOES TO A FIBERGLASS.
CONCRETE FOUNDATION, SIDEWALKS FRONT PORCH, TRE ON REAR.
HEY, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE FOUNDATION FOR A SECOND? YEAH.
UH, I USUALLY PAINT 'EM THE SAME COLOR AS THE SIDING.
THAT'S WHY SHE COULDN'T TELL IN THAT PICTURE.
WHERE ENDED
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HAVE A EXACT COLLAR AND I'LL PAINT THE FOUNDATION THE SAME COLOR AS SIDING.SHE COULDN'T TELL IN THAT PICTURE.
SOMEWHERE IN THESE GUIDELINES IT DOES TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE MATERIAL.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING 'CAUSE I COULDN'T SEE IT IN THE PICTURE THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT MATERIAL THAN THE YEAH, WE PAINTED THE MATCH THE SIDE.
WELL WE DON'T HAVE GUTTERS DOWN ABOUT WHITE SOFFIT TREE.
YOU TELL IT HUH? DOUBLE HUNG WHITE VINYL WINDOWS WITH NO GRILLS PROVIDED IN THERE.
WE'RE CALLING THAT A SLIM LINE.
IS THAT A SPECIFIC BRAND? NO, IT'S NOT A IT'S A UH, IT'S LIKE WHAT YOU YEAH, IT'S A SLIM LINE.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT BRAND, BUT IT'S A SLIM LINE.
LOOK AT HIS ONE AS AND YOU SEE WHAT HE MEANS.
I'M PRETTY SURE THE ONE GEORGE HAS ON CHESTER.
YEAH, WE HAD THAT ONE HERE LAST TIME.
YOU SEE ALL THE TRIM ON THE FRONT PORCH? ALL THAT'D BE WHITE PAINTED BAY WINDOWS THAT WILL BE PAINTED TWO WINDOWS TO SIDE OF PROSPECT STREET.
THOSE WILL BE THE SLIM LINE AS WELL.
ALL OF THEM IS IN THE HOUSE TO BE SLIM LINE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW COME Y'ALL LOVE A BAY WINDOW SO MUCH? I CAN'T SEE YOU DE'S IN THE WAY.
I DID UH, I DID FIVE OF 'EM ON UH, NINTH STREET.
I DID UH, SEVEN ON UH, 11TH STREET.
YOU OUGHT TO SEE HOW IT CHANGES THE HOUSE.
I WISH I WASN'T TOO FAR ALONG THAT.
GO BACK AND PUT A BAY WINDOW DOWN.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT JUST ADDS CHARACTER TO THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, AND IT ADDS SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE INSIDE.
WELL IT PRETTY UP THAT IT TIES UP THAT PROSPECT STREET TOO SIDE.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BAY WINDOW AT ALL.
TEDDY MESSED UP TWO ON 11TH STREET.
HE SAT IN THE YARD AND ASPHALT IN THE DRIVEWAY.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR INTENT ABOUT THE PRIVACY FENCE.
IS THAT ON BOTH PROPERTY LINES? THERE'S A FENCE ON THE LEFT PROPERTY LINE ALREADY AND SHE OWNS THAT.
AND THE FACT FENCE IS FALLING DOWN AND I'M GONNA REPLACE THAT ONE MYSELF ON YOUR PHONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MINE OR WHOEVER'S IT IS, BUT I'M GONNA REPLACE IT.
'CAUSE THE GUY BEHIND IT, HE DON'T, HE WON'T CARE.
SO THAT'S 1 1, 1 COLUMN ON, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ON THE COLUMNS ON THE FRONT MM-HMM
THEY SEE PICTURE FOR RESEMBLANCE OR SOMETHING.
IS THAT WHERE IT'S GOT THAT LITTLE DESIGN PIECE IN THERE? IS THAT LIKE MOLDING APPLIED TO OR IS IT TRIMMED ENTIRE? LIKE IT IS THE WHOLE COLUMN'S BUILT.
AND THESE ARE OUTSIDE TRIM PIECES.
SO YOU BUILD THE COLUMN ABOUT THREE TIMES.
THREE DIFFERENT LAYERS TO BUILD THE COLUMN.
MAYBE WE SHOULD CALL THE COLUMNS PANEL.
TWO HOUSES AT THE SAME COLUMN WHEN YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING, THEY COME ON UP PUT WE'LL YOU DO BUILD THEM THREE TIMES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK I'VE BEEN DOING AT TWO 30 IN THE MORNING? COVER TRIM.
SO IT IS LIKE DECORATIVE TRIM.
AND JUST SAY LIKE, LIKE EXAMPLE SHOWN IN PICTURE.
YOU WON'T GO TO LOWE'S AND BUY 'EM.
HOW DO YOU TRIM OUT THE TOP OR IT MEETS THE ROOF.
THE BEAM IS WIDER THAN THE TOP OF THE COLUMN.
YOU'LL SEE SOME HOUSES, THEY'LL MAKE THE BEAM NARROW AND THE COLUMN WILL BE WIDER.
THAT'S A PLACE FOR THE BIRDS TO MAKE A NEST.
SO WE ALWAYS MAKE THE CO MAKE THE BEAM AS WIDE AS THE TOP OF THE COLUMN SO WE DON'T GET BIRDS.
DE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'RE, NO.
AND THEN AROUND THE WINDOWS, DO YOU HAVE IT THAT IT'S GONNA BE WOOD TRIM AROUND THE SIDE? YEAH.
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ARE THERE ANY WINDOWS GOING IN ON THE SIDE? IF YOU'RE FACING THE HOUSE, YOU'RE STANDING LOOKING AT THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT SIDE.ARE THERE ANY WINDOWS ON THAT LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE? MM.
AND THE WAY THE STAIRWAY IS IN THAT HOUSE, THE STAIRWAYS ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE YOU, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TWO SPLIT MM-HMM
AND LIKE STAIRWAY ON THAT SIDE.
IT'S HARD TO GET A WIND IN THERE AND NOBODY'S GONNA SEE IT SHOVED UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBOR.
SO YOU STAIRWAYS GOING UP THAT LEFT SIDE? YEAH.
ABOUT 50 FEET TO THE NEXT HOUSE.
UM, NO WAY TO GET A WINDOW IN THAT STAIRWELL.
THE ONLY THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A, A GIANT BLOCK WALL OF VINYL, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S TREES AND A PRIVACY FENCE OVER THERE.
THERE'S JUST, YOU DRIVE UP DOWN, YOU SPEND THE MONEY ON THE PROSPECT SIDE TO MAKE THAT LOOK PRETTIER.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE BAY WINDOW IN THE EXTRA TWO WINDOWS.
BECAUSE PEOPLE AT THE INTERSECTION WILL SEE THAT.
SO WE SPENT THE MONEY OVER THERE.
UM, HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IS THE BAY WINDOW AS OPPOSED TO A REGULAR WINDOW? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE, COLIN WAS GOING WITH THIS.
A LOT OF THOSE HOMES, ESPECIALLY A CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOME, RIGHT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ONE, TWO AND TWO.
IT'LL BE JUST A FOUR WINDOWS ON EACH, YOU KNOW, TWO UPSTAIRS AND TWO DOWNSTAIRS JUST RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF EACH OTHER.
BUT THIS GOES IN THE DINING ROOM BECAUSE THEN IF YOU PUT IT, IF YOU DO TWO AND TWO ONE'S GONNA BE IN THE LIVING ROOM.
AND THEN WHERE DO I PUT MY FURNITURE? WHERE DO I HANG MY TV
SO IT KINDA, I KNOW IT'LL, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY HOUSE.
SO THEN IT'S KINDA ODD IF YOU DON'T WANT THE BAY WINDOW, IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BAY WINDOW, NEVERMIND.
I'LL PUT, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THAT.
THAT SIDE OVER THERE UPSTAIRS, PUT IT IN THERE.
I'LL GET TWO WINDOWS IN THE BEDROOM I THINK ANYTHING TO BREAK IT UP.
YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
'CAUSE THERE'S IN THAT ONE PICTURE.
I'LL ADD THE TWO WINDOWS IN THERE.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
IS THAT THE, THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE, CORRECT? YES.
THERE'S NO WINDOWS ON THE UPSTAIRS IN THE BEDROOM.
ONE'S IN THE FRONT ONE AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ARE IN THE BACK.
AND THE FRONT ONES ARE IN THE, IN THE FRONT BEDROOMS. THE MASTER'S IN THE FRONT.
AGAIN, IF YOU START PUTTING BEDROOMS THERE, THEN WHERE AM I GONNA PUT MY BED?
YOU ARE GONNA BE PUT A BED IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.
HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT? BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I DONE GOT LOST THOSE TWO WINDOWS.
SO YOU ARE ARE NOT GONNA PUT THE UPSTAIRS.
I'LL PUT THE TWO WINDOWS UPSTAIRS.
I'LL GET YOU TWO WINDOWS UPSTAIRS.
YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD COVER? OKAY.
YEAH, IT'S A BIG WALL LIKE THAT.
I WINDOW IN FRONT OF THE BED THAN TO NOT HAVE THAT CIRCULATION TOO.
I MEAN IT'S JUST EAST, WEST FACING NO WINDOWS ON THAT NORTH SIDE.
ON WHAT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE, IT'S I, YOU KNOW, I SAID I'LL ADD 'EM.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE? UM, CAN YOU READ THIS
LONG AS YOU READ THIS ACROSS FROM YOU DO.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE THEN.
UH, 30 YEAR ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES.
BLACK IN COLOR ON THE MAIN ROOF.
LP SMART SIDING, SAGE IN COLOR ON THE ENTIRE HOUSE.
UH, I THINK YOU SAID THAT LOOKS LIKE WOOD, WHICH IT, IT SHOULD.
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WATER TABLE ON FRONT OF BOTH UNITS.STANDING SCENE, BLACK METAL ROOF OVER PORCHES AND BAY WINDOWS AND EYEBROW NETTE.
UH, FRONT ELEVATION IN A GABLE SCALLOP OR SHAPED VINYL SIDING.
IS THAT GONNA BE A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN THE HOUSE? YES, WE PLAN ON IT.
10 BY 16 REAR TREX DECK AND VINYL HANDRAILS AND SIX FOOT PRIVACY WALL AND VINYL SEPARATING UNITS.
SIX FOOT WOOD PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE WITH GREEN, GIANT EVERGREEN TREES.
FRONT DOOR TO BE BLACK METAL OR FIBERGLASS.
WOOD, RIGHT? IS THE WORD MORTGAGE.
OKAY, SO WE'LL SCRATCH THE BLACK METAL.
WOOD GREEN WOOD GREEN WOOD GREEN.
UH, CONCRETE FOUNDATION AND SIDEWALKS.
CONCRETE FOUNDATION PAINTED TO MATCH THE SIDING.
FRONT PORCH TRACKS THE SAME MATERIAL AS REAR DECK WHITE ALUMINUM GUTTERS, DOWNSPOUT AND WHITE S SOCKET.
TRIM DOUBLE HUNG WHITE VINYL WINDOWS WITH NO GRILLS.
SLIM LINE WITH WOOD TRIM AS INDICATED ON RENDERING.
ADD TWO WINDOWS TO THE SIDE OF PROSPECT STREET AND BAY WINDOW.
SLIM LINE WITH WOOD TRIM AS INDICATED ON RENDERING SIDE YARD LANDSCAPE IN FRONT OF EACH UNIT.
DRIVEWAY BLACKTOP, FRONT PORCH COLUMNS.
CRAFTSMAN STYLE AS INDICATED ON RENDERING TWO SECOND FLOOR WINDOWS NORTH FACADE SLIM LINE WITH WOOD TRIM.
NEED A SECOND? DID YOU MAKE A MOTION TO NO, THAT WAS TEDDY GOING.
YEAH, WE WERE JUST REVIEWING IT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT ALL OKAY.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, I DON'T KNOW THE SCOPE OF WORK AS AMENDED AND I'LL SECOND IT.
COMING BACK PROJECT FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.
I'M A WHOLE LOT MORE SATISFIED MYSELF WITH THIS THAN WHAT WAS BEFORE.
WHEN MY, WHEN WE SHE BROUGHT THIS HOME, I SAID THAT'S IT.
I WAS THAT NIGHT I WENT HOME AND STAYED UP TILL THREE O' I I'M NEVER EVER GOING TO USE THE BATHROOM AGAIN.
AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE LEAVES THE MEETING, I MISSED OUT
I, I DIDN'T SLEEP TILL THREE O'CLOCK.
I WAS SEARCHING INTERNET ALL NIGHT LONG.
SO FINALLY I TOLD HIM, I SAID, LOOK, KAYLA FOUND THIS.
I SAID LET'S DO THIS ON THE INSIDE, THIS ON THE OUTSIDE.
BUT WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE, HE SAID, I COULD DO THAT.
WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE, I SAID, THAT'S FINE,
THE THE, THE RENDERING LOOKS REALLY NICE.
AND I WILL SAY, I THINK I CAN SAY THIS IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, THIS I KNOW HAS BEEN A REALLY FRUSTRATING PROCESS.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE EXTRA FOR ME 'CAUSE IT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT.
UM, BUT IT HAS ALSO FORCED THIS BOARD TO DIG INTO THESE GUIDELINES AND AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES.
WHERE THERE NEEDS TO BE THINGS MADE MORE CLEAR.
AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD A WORK SESSION TO START WORKING ON THEM.
CAN I OFFER YOU SOMETHING ON THAT? I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IF THEY COULD PICK ONE OR TWO PEOPLE FROM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION TO ALSO SHED SOME LIGHT AND MAYBE HELP TWEAK SOME OF THAT.
SO IT'S IT BECAUSE GEORGE LIKE HE'S AN OUTSIDE PERSON TONIGHT AND HELPING GUIDE AND JUST TO GET THE WORDING CORRECT AND GET SOME OF THE, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO HELP REDO SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES.
'CAUSE SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY SKETCHY.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY, I THINK IT TAKES, IT TAKES SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THE FIELD TO UNDERSTAND AND GET THEIR WORDING RIGHT FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WELL THEY GIVE YOU OTHER IDEAS TOO THAT MIGHT THEN YOU MIGHT OH YEAH.
WELL IT'S A DIFFERENT PER, IT'S AN EXTRA SET OF YEARS AND TIME.
TEDDY, YOU SAID, I DUNNO ABOUT THAT.
WELL YOU SAID THE FRUSTRATING PROCESS HAS HAD BEEN A REALLY GOOD POSITIVE.
I HAD ANXIETY ALL WEEKEND FOR THIS MEETING.
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WELL, THANK YOU.I MEAN REALLY AS DE AND I WERE WALKING IN LIKE, CAN WE JUST LEAVE? I WASN'T EVEN HERE THE FIRST MEETING.
YEAH, NO, WE, THIS ONE WAS VERY FRUSTRAT.
WE'VE HAD ANXIETY OVER IT ALL.
WELL I KNOW I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT.
NOT READY TO COME THE NIGHT MYSELF BECAUSE OF THE LAST MEETING WHEN I LEFT HERE.
YEAH, I, I SAID I DON'T, I, THERE'S A HAPPENING MEETING.
I TOLD HER I DIDN'T KNOW IF I COULD GO THROUGH ANOTHER MEETING LIKE THAT.
AND I WAS READY NOT TO COME NIGHT THAT WAY.
WE WERE ALL ON A SIMILAR BOAT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO THE BASEMENT AND JUMP OUT THE WINDOW.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IF YOU WORK REDOING THESE THINGS, IT WOULD BE VERY EDUCATIONAL AND HELPFUL FOR BOTH PEOPLE.
AND WE SAID WE VOLUNTEERED TEDDY AND GEORGE.
GEORGE'S WIFE, NOT GEORGE IS MORE POLITICALLY CORRECT.
WELL Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT YOU CHRISTMAS AND ILL BE ANXIOUS TO SEE SOMETHING COME DOWN AND DO WE GOT A DEMO PERMIT.
IT'S HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, WE GOT A DEMO PERMIT, TRASH COMPACT COMPACTORS.
GOT THE LETTER FROM THE, WHAT'S HIS NAME? ARE YOU CAR? ARE YOU GONNA SAVE ANYTHING IN IT? I'M JUST ASKING NOW.
WINDOWS IN THE BACK THAT DIDN'T GET BURNED.
REACH OUT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL OLD SOUTH PARTS DO.
I'M GOING TO PULL THEM WINDOWS IN THE BACK 'CAUSE I'M AN ANTIQUE PERSON AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS SEE WAVY GLASS THROWN IN A DUMPSTER.
I DON'T, HEY, WE TOOK THE, WE FOUND A MANTLE ON THE HOUSE WE TORE DOWN ON NINTH STREET.
HE TOOK IT HOME, CLEANED IT, PAINTED INHERITED.
AND I FOUND A WINDOW IN THE HOUSE THAT I'M PROBABLY GONNA DO THE SAME THING WITH.
IT'S A BIG SQUARE WINDOW LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S GOT ALL THE LITTLE BITTY SQUARE ONES AROUND THERE SIDE.
AND IT WAS LAYING IN ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.
SO I WAS GONNA TAKE THAT DOWN THERE.
AND ONE OF THE GUYS WENT, SOME MY WALLPAPER OUT THOUGH.
WELL, WHERE HE WAS WENT TO SCHOOL.
HE THAT HE SAID THAT WAS A SCHOOL HOUSE YEARS AGO.
AND HE WANTED A PIECE OF THE WALLPAPER.
THE LADY THAT, THE LADY THAT OWNED IT WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER.
SHE RETIRED AND SHE DID KINDERGARTEN THERE.
FIGURED DO, HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO RE BEFORE I WENT TO SCHOOL.
IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, HE WANTS A PIECE OF WALLPAPER.
WE CAN SAGE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK IN IT FOR A LONG TIME.
I WENT TO SCHOOL IN HER SON, WE GRADUATED TOGETHER.
NO, BEFORE HER, BEFORE MISS ALL
WHAT WE'RE GONNA CLOSE IT AND THEN, THEN WE'RE DONE.
ANY BUSINESS? NICE MEETING Y'ALL.
THIS WE'RE GONNA, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN IN JANUARY? POSSIBLY.
WE SHOULD HAVE AN APPLICATION COMING TUESDAY.
CAN WE SET UP A WORK SESSION FOR EARLIER IN THE DAY? LIKE WE WERE GONNA PLAN TO FOR THE LAST ONE THAT GOT BAGGED.
REMEMBER WE WERE GONNA DO THAT FIVE O'CLOCK WORK SESSION BEFORE THE ACTUAL MEETING? YEAH.
SO WHAT'S THE MEETING THAT GOT CANCELED? RIGHT, RIGHT.
SET THAT UP AGAIN FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO JUST IN CASE THE APPLICATION DOESN'T COME THROUGH, WE CAN STILL HAVE OUR WORK SESSION MEETING JANUARY.
SO YOU WANNA DO THE WORK SESSION BEFORE MEETING, TALKING ABOUT A WORK SESSION AT FIVE O'CLOCK BEFORE THE MEETING? YES.
WHAT'S THE DATE THEN? JANUARY 14TH I BELIEVE.
REMEMBER I WAS UP IN FEBRUARY, SO WE SHOULD HAVE OUR WORK SESSION.
NOW YOU SHOULD BE TO CLOSE MEETING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE MEETING.