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GOOD EVENING.[1. MOMENT OF SILENCE ]
I'M GONNA CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 23RD TO ORDER, AND WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.[2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.AND AS YOU KNOW, DURING MY TERM AS MAYOR, I INVITE STUDENTS FROM THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO LEAD OUR COUNCIL IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND THIS MONTH WE WELCOME AUDREY ENTAL.
AUDREY'S GONNA COME FORWARD AS AUDREY IS COMING FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT AUDREY IS THE DAUGHTER OF CHRIS AND SARAH ENTAL AUDREY'S, 14 YEARS OLD AND IS IN NINTH GRADE AT SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE SHE PLAYS SOFTBALL AND IS AN FFA OFFICER.
AUDREY WAS RECOGNIZED FOR COMPLETING SKYLINE MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH ALL A'S SHE RECEIVED MULTIPLE CLASS AWARDS.
BUT ONE THAT I KNOW WAS MOST CHALLENGING TO EARN WAS FOR BEING AN OUTSTANDING STUDENT IN ALGEBRA.
AUDREY ENJOYED SPENDING TIME ON THE FARM PLAYING SOFTBALL AND MUSIC, AND ONE MIGHT SAY THAT SHE HAS A HIDDEN TALENT, WHICH IS SINGING, SO MAYBE WE WILL HEAR HER SINGING THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER SOMETIME AT A EVENT IN THE FUTURE.
SPEAKING OF THE FUTURE, AUDREY WANTS TO BE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD WHEN SHE GROWS UP, EITHER AS A PEDIATRICIAN OR A HOSPICE NURSE, WHICH ARE BOTH AMAZING CAREERS TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS WHO NEED SPECIAL TYPES OF PEOPLE TO LOVE AND CARE FOR THEM.
AUDREY CHOSE HER GIFT CERTIFICATE FROM ME TO SPLUNKERS.
UM, SHE'S ALSO RECEIVING A CERTIFICATE THANKING HER FOR HER PATRIOTISM AND PARTICIPATION IN THE FRONT RURAL TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024.
SO I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE STAND.
I PLEDGE ALL TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[3. ROLL CALL ]
UP, WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL AND, UM, FOR EVERYONE'S, UM, INFORMATION, COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT IS GONNA BE COMING IN LATE, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THERE WAS A, AN ACCIDENT IN 66 AND HE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THAT.SO HE WILL BE COMING IN LATER.
MR. PRESLEY, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR COCKRELL.
COUNCILMAN RAP PARTS RUNNING LATE.
COUNCILMAN DE DEMON PAYNE? HERE.
COUNCILMAN WOOD HERE? OKAY, NEXT UP ARE OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
DO I HEAR A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, MOVE
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THAT COUNCIL, APPROVE THE TWO, THE 2024 COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 26TH REGULAR MEETING.SEPTEMBER 3RD WORK SESSION AND THE SEPTEMBER 9TH WORK SESSION AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM MAYOR, I'LL JUST ADD TO THE DISCUSSION SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION THAT I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE AS I WAS ABSENT FOR THE REGULAR MEETING.
MS. PRESLEY, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? VICE MAYOR SEA LOCK? YES.
COUNCILWOMAN DE DEMON PAYNE? YES.
[5. ADDITION/DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA OR REVISION TO ORDER OF BUSINESS ]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA OR REVISION TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS? OKAY.MADAM MAYOR, I MIGHT PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE A REVISION
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TO THE AGENDA TO MOVE NUMBER ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND MAKE EIGHT.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
AS IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE LIKELY NOT DUE TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR TIME, IF THERE'S NO ONE OPPOSED TO THAT.
SO THE SUGGESTION HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY, UM, A NEED A SECOND? IT'S A, YEAH, IT'S A REVISION TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION, MADAM MAYOR, WE'VE DONE THIS IN TIMES PRESENT, UM, AND FORMER MEETINGS SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION DO NOT HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT THEY'RE LIKELY NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL THEN.
COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
SO OUR NEXT, SO WE WILL BE SWITCHING THE ORDER OF, UM, BUSINESS.
[6. RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/REPORTS/PRESENTATIONS ]
SO ITEM NUMBER SIX ARE RECOGNITIONS, AWARDS, REPORTS, AND PRESENTATIONS.AND OUR FIRST ONE IS A RECOGNITION OF POLICE OFFICERS, SCOTT BAKER AND BENJAMIN BAKER FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
SO CHIEF MAYOR MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS ALWAYS MY FAVORITE TIME TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS WHEN WE'RE, UH, CELEBRATING SOME FORWARD MOVEMENT IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS HERE TONIGHT, UH, THAT ARE GONNA BE MOVING UP IN THE RANKS.
UH, WE HAVE A PROMOTION TO CORPORAL AND WE HAVE A NEW OFFICER THAT JUST COMPLETED, UH, FTO.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE MET SCOTT BAKKER BEFORE WHEN HE FIRST CAME OVER TO OUR DEPARTMENT, HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY, BEGAN HIS CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND THEN CAME OVER TO US, UH, FROM THERE.
AND HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.
HE HAS BEEN, UH, SELECTED THROUGH OUR, OUR PROCESS, UH, TO TAKE THE POSITION OF CORPORAL WITH THE FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO IF HIS, UH, LOVELY BRIDE, CHRISTINA WOULD COME AND DO THE HONOR OF PUTTING THE BADGE ON HIM.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A FAMILY AFFAIR, UH, BECAUSE HIS SON, BENJAMIN BAKER, UM, COMES TO US FROM THE, UH, RSW REGIONAL JAIL.
HE COMPLETED THE POLICE ACADEMY AND GRADUATED IN MAY AND JUST FINISHED HIS, UM, HIS FIELD TRAINING AND HAS NOW BEEN RELEASED TO FULL DUTY OUT ON HIS OWN, PROTECTING THE STREETS OF, UH, FRONT ROYAL.
SO, UH, HIS WIFE JULIETTE WILL COME AND PIN THE BADGE ON BEN, OUR NEWEST POLICE OFFICER.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE, UH, FOLKS MOVING UP AND COMING ON BOARD AND IT'S EXTRA COOL WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE FAMILY.
WELCOME OFFICER BAKER, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO CORPORAL BAKER.
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SO NEXT, UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.UH, MR. WALTZ, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU, DID YOU WANNA DO THE HONORS OF THAT? UH, NO.
OH, NO, I, SO AT THIS TIME, UM, WE ARE GONNA BE RECOGNIZING MR. WILSON AND HIS DEPARTMENT, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE, UH, UM, ALONE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, SO I, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SHARE THE LETTER THAT WAS RECEIVED, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
SO THIS WAS FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION AND IT WAS ADDRESSED TO MR. WALTZ.
WE ARE PLEASED TO NOTIFY YOU THAT YOUR ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH, 2023, QUALIFIES FOR GFOA.
REMEMBER, THAT'S GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.
THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION IN GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING.
AND ITS ATTAINMENT REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT BY A GOVERNMENT AND ITS MANAGEMENT.
UM, IT, IT GOES ON TO TALK, TO TALK ABOUT, IT'S PRESENTED TO INDIVIDUALS OR DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DESIGNATED BY THE GOVERNMENT AS PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS HAVING EARNED A CERTIFICATE.
AND, UM, IT, IT, IT, WE JUST WANTED TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE MR. WILSON AND HIS DEPARTMENT, UM, FOR THIS TRUE HONOR.
UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UM, GOVERNMENT AND THE FACT THAT THAT DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR NUMBERS ADD UP, THAT THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL.
AND IN, IN MY FIVE YEARS ALMOST, UH, SERVING IN, IN THIS ROLE, UH, I HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY IMPRESSED ALWAYS WITH MR. WILSON AND HIS STAFF.
SO I WANNA CONGRATULATE YOU, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AS WELL? AND LET US SHAKE YOUR HAND.
OH, WE, WE, WE NEED TO DO THAT
WANT BRENDA? MAKE SURE THIS IS THE CONFIDENCE.
I'M SURE YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY OH YEAH, VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, NO, THAT'S NOT WE LIVE, I SIT IN THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN WITH EVERYBODY.
QUESTION WHERE OUR MONEY GOES.
THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, SO, ALRIGHT.
SO, BECAUSE OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS, UM, CHANGE, WE'RE
[8. PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS ]
ACTUALLY, UM, GOING TO BE DOING OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW.SO WE NOW COME TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
AND IT IS THE DUTY OF THE MAYOR TO CONDUCT THIS MEETING IN AN ORDERLY MANNER.
PERSONS ADDRESSING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE ASKED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS TO THOSE RELEVANT TO THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
NO PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE SHALL BE ALLOWED TO VOICE REMARKS EXCEPT AS RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CLERK OF COUNCIL.
AND UPON RECOGNITION BY THE MAYOR, UH, THE SPEAKER SHALL STATE THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND INDICATE IF THEY'RE A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHALL NOT, SHALL NOT ADDRESS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF A PUBLIC HEARING BEING HELD DURING THE SAME MEETING.
STAY WITHIN THE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
AND AFTER THAT TIME HAS EXPIRED, THE MICROPHONE WILL BE CUT OFF.
REFRAIN FROM WORDS OR STATEMENTS WHICH ARE DEFAMATORY TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS OR DISPLAY OTHER DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT INCLUDING OBSCENITY AND VULGARITY GROUPS OR INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE CREATING AN ATMOSPHERE DETRIMENTAL TO OR DISTURBING.
THE ORDERLY CONDUCT AT THE MEETING WILL BE WORN TO REFRAIN FROM SUCH CONDUCT AND ANY ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCE AFTER THE WARNING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
AND THE MAYOR WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO ASK, UH, THE CHIEF TO REMOVE THE INDIVIDUAL GROUP OR CLEAR THE ROOM SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN.
MRS. PRESLEY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK?
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WE HAVE SEVEN.DO YOU WANNA START WITH NUMBER ONE? UH, MELANIE SALAND, YOU'RE ON HERE TWICE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA BE FIRST OR YOU WANNA BE SEVENTH
HELLO, MELANIE SALANS MAURICE DRIVE IN WARREN COUNTY.
UM, I CO-FOUNDED BIRTH LOCAL IN 2018 AFTER VALLEY HEALTH SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVED WOMEN'S CARE FROM ALL OF THEIR HOSPITALS EXCEPT FOR WINCHESTER.
I AM HERE THIS EVENING WITH TWO BLACK EYES AND A CONCUSSION FROM A RECENT CAR ACCIDENT BECAUSE OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS RESOLUTION IS.
I NEEDED AN EMERGENT MRI DUE TO MY INJURIES AND VALLEY HEALTH SO THAT THEY CAN SEE ME IN NOVEMBER.
WHEN YOU ARE UNABLE TO DRIVE, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A RIDE TO OBTAIN HEALTHCARE AN HOUR AWAY.
THIS IS YET ONE MORE EXAMPLE AS TO WHY THIS RESOLUTION TO INVITE COMPETING HEALTH SYSTEMS INTO THE VALLEY IS SO BADLY NEEDED.
THE CITIZENS OF FRONT ROYAL HAVE WAITED A LONG SIX YEARS FOR A COUNCIL TO BE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO TAKE ACTION TO HELP FIX THESE ISSUES.
THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU FOR BEING THE COUNCIL WHO IS FINALLY WILLING TO STAND UP FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR NEED TO HAVE EASIER ACCESS TO TIMELY QUALITY OF AFFORDABLE LOCAL HEALTHCARE CARE.
PARTS OF PARTS OF THE VALLEY HAVE BEEN DECLARED A MATERNITY DESERT BY THE MARCH FOR DIMES.
WHILE A LOT OF ATTENTION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE ABSENCE OF WOMEN'S CARE, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT A LOT MORE WAS LOST WHEN THE NEW HOSPITAL WAS BUILT.
THE NUMBER OF BEDS AVAILABLE WAS CUT IN HALF, RESULTING IN LONGER WAIT TIMES FOR CARE.
IN 2018, THE OLD WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL ADDED A CARDIAC CATHETERIZATION LAB.
THE OLD HOSPITAL HAD AN ICU IN WHICH LIFESAVING CARE WOULD BE PROVIDED IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG DURING THOSE CARDIAC CARDIAC CATHETERIZATIONS.
THE NEW HOSPITAL DOES NOT HAVE AN ICU 5% OF ALL CARDIAC CATHETERIZATIONS EXPERIENCE COMPLICATIONS.
THIS MEANS IT IS A RACE AGAINST TIME TO GET THOSE PEOPLE TRANSPORTED TO WINCHESTER FOR THE LIFE-SAVING CARE THEY NEED.
THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH LISTED THESE CONCERNS WHEN VALLEY HEALTH SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION TO BUILD THE NEW HOSPITAL.
LOCAL RESPECTED CARDIOLOGISTS SPOKE OUT IN CONCERN OVER THIS ISSUE.
821 CITIZENS SIGNED PETITIONS TO BRING ATTENTION TO THESE ISSUES.
VALLEY HEALTH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS DONE NOTHING TO CORRECT THESE PROBLEMS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION SIX YEARS AGO IN 2018, BIRTH LOCAL PROVIDED FACTS AND STATISTICS AS TO WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONS TO PUT PROFITS AHEAD OF PATIENTS WOULD BE.
AND HERE WE ARE SIX YEARS LATER AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE COME TRUE.
OUR COMMUNITY IS HURTING BECAUSE OF VALLEY HEALTH'S REFUSAL TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES NEEDED.
IN CLOSING, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT NOTHING I HAVE SAID TONIGHT SHOULD BE PERCEIVED AS CRITICISM OF THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND HARDWORKING STAFF EMPLOYED BY VALLEY HEALTH.
MY COMMENTS ARE STRICTLY DIRECTED AT VALLEY HEALTH CORPORATE EXECUTIVES AND I WOULD HATE FOR THOSE EXECUTIVES TO, ONCE AGAIN, MISRE MISREPRESENT WHAT WAS SAID AND SEND OUT A COMPANY-WIDE EMAIL.
I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
I THOUGHT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THINGS JAN.
THEY CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN I BRING IT'S UP AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE THREE MINUTES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TOO, BUT IT'S THE SAME.
WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR? SO, SO EACH PERSON'S ALLOWED TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
SO, SO DID YOU WANNA SPEAK FOR YOUR THREE AND THEN LET EACH OF THEM SPEAK FOR THEIR THREE? IS THAT YES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES.
BUT IT WON'T, IT WON'T BE THAT, THAT'S FINE.
SO, UM, WE ARE FROM A BOAT OF LIBERATION, NONPROFIT BOARDING HOUSE AND FRONT ROYAL.
UM, WE DECIDED, UH, AFTER A FEW PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE TALKED ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT VAPE SHOPS, WE DECIDED TO EXERCISE OUR CIVIL RIGHTS AND KIND OF TAKE IT AS A LEARNING PROCESS AND, UM, PETITIONING OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO LOOK AT, UH, SOME ORDINANCES THAT COULD HELP CONTROL THE 19 VAPE SHOPS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SMALL TOWN.
SO, UM, I EMAILED EVERY SINGLE ONE
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OF YOU ALL OF THE INFORMATION TODAY.WE PUT ONE POST ON THE FRONT ROW FACEBOOK PAGE, AND WE DID GET 173 SIGNATURES AND JUST, IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS.
BUT AGAIN, WE DIDN'T KEEP PROMOTING THAT.
UM, WE JUST A, WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT QUANTICO'S ORDINANCES.
UM, THEY, HOWEVER, DO NOT REQUIRE SUVS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AS I'VE SAID IN THE EMAIL, SMITHFIELD VIRGINIA DOES REQUIRE SUVS AND THEIR TOWN ORDINANCES.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THOSE AND CONSIDER THOSE.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO STRESS THE URGENCY IN THIS 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF, UM, AFTER THE FACT.
BUT WE KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN TOWN COUNCIL IDEAS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN TOWN COUNCIL, AT LEAST FOR FROM 10 YEARS AGO.
SO WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE TAKE IT MORE SERIOUSLY THIS TIME.
LOOK AT SMITHFIELD VIRGINIA'S ORDINANCES.
I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THEM, UH, THROUGH EMAILS.
THEY'RE VERY NICE AND OPEN TO, TO DISCUSSING ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS ANYBODY ON THIS TOWN COUNCIL HAS.
AND, UH, SO PLEASE LOOK AT THAT.
SO WE'RE LEARNING OUR CIVIC DEAL.
YOU JUST SAYING WHAT YOU SAID TO ME.
AND WHAT DO YOU GOT TO SAY? I LIKE TO BE NICE AND CLEANED.
WHAT ABOUT THE TOWN COUNCIL COUNSEL? THEY CAN DO BETTER.
THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT HOME.
AND YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU MY NAME IS CANDY AND BROOKMAN.
I JUST, I JUST THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS TOWN A BETTER TOWN BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN TOWN.
MS. PRESSLEY, WHO'S UP NEXT? UH, CAMERON.
I WILLIAMS. WILLIAMS. I'M SORRY.
THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS CAMERON WILLIAMS. I LIVE ON KESSLER ROAD IN TOWN.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE RESOLUTION PERTAINING TO ADDITIONAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS.
THIS RESOLUTION IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS OFFERING THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN OF FRONT ROYAL AN OPTION THAT CURRENTLY DOES NOT EXIST.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BIRTH AND BE BORN IN FRONT ROYAL.
AS THE RESOLUTION MENTIONS, THE MARCH OF DIME CONSIDERS THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY AND PRIMARILY FRONT ROYAL, A MATERNITY DESERT.
MANY CHILDREN ARE BORN VIA MIDWIFE OR IN THE BACK OF A MEDIC UNIT.
MANY CHILDREN BORN TO FRONT ROYAL PARENTS ARE NOT BORN IN FRONT.
THIS SHOULD BE FRIGHTENING TO EVERYONE.
A CHILD'S FIRST MOMENT SHOULD BE IN THE SAFETY OF A TOP TIER LOCAL HOSPITAL.
PARENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COST, TRAVEL, OR SAFETY.
SADLY, EVERY PARENT IN FRONT ROYAL HAS TO CONSIDER THAT.
EVERY PARENT IN FRONT ROYAL HAS TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF VALLEY HEALTH'S INITIATIVE.
TO PUT PROFIT ABOVE PATIENCE, THE TOWN COUNCIL MUST MAKE THEIR STANCE CLEAR.
FRONT ROYAL IS A SAFE PLACE TO START A FAMILY.
TWO OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS ARE EXPECTING A BABY IN FEBRUARY, AND IT'S PAINFUL TO THINK THAT THEY'RE DEPRIVED OF A HIGH QUALITY MATERNITY CARE IN THEIR OWN TOWN.
PARTICULARLY ONES SUCH AS FRONT ROYAL THAT'S LIVELY AND GROWING.
I CAN'T BEAR TO THINK THAT THEIR CHILD MIGHT BE BORN IN THE BACK OF A MEDIC UNIT IN PURSUIT TO WINCHESTER WHEN THEY LIVE JUST MILES FROM WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
THE PEOPLE OF FRONT ROYAL SORELY NEED OPTIONS.
VALLEY HEALTH HAS BULLIED THIS COUNCIL, BULLIED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SPIT ON THE SHENANDOAH VA VALLEY FOR FAR TOO LONG.
IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT FRONT ROYAL SAYS THAT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, AND WE EXPAND OUR HORIZONS AND OPEN OURSELVES UP TO OTHER CHOICES.
I WATCHED BOTH THE COUNCIL AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETINGS WHERE REPRESENTATIVES OF VALLEY HEALTH GAVE PERFORMATIVE SPEECHES PLAYING THE VICTIM.
THESE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF FRONT ROYAL'S PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER, WHINING ABOUT AN OFF THE CUFF REMARK AT A MEETING.
INSTEAD OF PUTTING RESOURCES INTO PROVIDING TOP OF THE LINE HEALTHCARE, THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR TIME BLAMING THEIR VICTIMS. IT'S QUITE FRANKLY, DISGUSTING THAT THE SAME PEOPLE STRIPPING FRONT ROYAL OF QUALITY CARE FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE ASKING FOR AN APOLOGY.
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PERFORMANCES ALONE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO CONVINCE THIS COUNCIL TO LOOK FOR BETTER OPTIONS AND PASS THIS RESOLUTION.I'M IN WARREN COUNTY, SO I'M NOT TOWN RESIDENT.
UM, SO THE ONLY CONCLUSION I CAN COME TO ABOUT VALLEY HEALTH CORPORATE EXECUTIVES IS THAT THEY HATE BABIES.
WHAT CATHOLIC COMMUNITY DO YOU KNOW OF THAT DOESN'T HAVE A QUALITY MATERNITY CENTER? WHAT COMMUNITY? WHERE LIKE, YOU'LL HAVE FAMILIES MAKING LIKE 10 BABIES A POP, RIGHT? 12 BABIES A POP.
LIKE WE'RE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD MATERNITY CENTER.
HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO INTERPRET THAT? AND THEN THEY WANNA PREVENT OTHER MEDICAL COMPANIES FROM COMING IN AND PROVIDING MATERNITY SERVICES BECAUSE THEY'RE GREEDY.
SO WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO MAKE OF THAT? OTHER THAN THEY HATE BABIES.
OH, BUT IF YOU NEED A RIDE TO, TO THE FACILITY UP IN WINCHESTER, YOU COULD FORTH THROW DOWN $5,000.
AS LONG AS YOU, YOU PAY YOUR DUES TO THE CORPORATE EXECUTIVES, NO PROBLEM.
WE'LL, UH, WE'LL LET YOU HAVE YOUR BABY.
I'M FINDING OUT ABOUT A LOT OF THIS RECENTLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, I JUST FOUND OUT I'M ENRAGED 'CAUSE I PLAN TO HAVE KIDS AND I DON'T WANNA BE STRESSED OUT ABOUT THIS.
AND I ALREADY AM THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE BABY SAFE AGAIN.
WE NEED TO MAKE MOM SAFE AGAIN.
AND HOW ELSE ARE WE? I MEAN, THIS IS JUST INSANE.
AND UNLESS YOU WANT MEME WARFARE WAGED AGAINST YOU, YOU WILL VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION AND LET THESE MEDICAL CENTERS IN BECAUSE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA, I'M JUST SO SURPRISED.
I MEAN, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THAT IN THE PAST PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SORT OF IN THE POCKET OF VALLEY HEALTH, BUT THIS HAS TO STOP THIS AMONG A LOT OF THE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT BEEN GOING ON HERE FOR DECADES.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES TO PUT AN END TO IT.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU GUYS PASSING THIS RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. PRESLEY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? SPEAK, UH, THE LAST ONE'S ANN MIRANDA.
I DON'T LIVE IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, BUT I AM A WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT IN THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.
UM, SO WHAT IS THERE TO BE SAID OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT GREEDY MONOPOLISTIC CORPORATIONS LIKE VALLEY HEALTH DON'T CARE ABOUT WOMEN AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT BABIES? UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA KEEP THIS SUPER SHORT AND JUST ASK THAT LET'S PLEASE PROTECT OUR MOTHERS.
AND SO FOR THE COMMON GOOD, PLEASE, I'M ASKING YOU TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION TO PROVIDE MORE MEDICAL, UM, PROVIDERS IN HERE SO THAT WE CAN BASICALLY USE THE FREE MARKET TO HELP OUR MOTHERS AND OUR CHILDREN.
UH, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT IS THERE ANYONE OUT HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? HI, MY NAME'S KATIE.
UM, I JUST WANNA TAKE A QUICK SECOND.
KATIE, DO YOU HAVE A, COULD YOU STATE YOUR LAST NAME? BLAIR.
YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY A STUDENT OF YOURS MANY YEARS AGO.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND IF YOU THAT GUYS DON'T MIND AND ASK WHO SMOKED CIGARETTES HERE BEFORE ANYBODY SMOKED CIGARETTES? VAPED.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT RAISED THEIR HAND.
YOU JUST TURNED AROUND PASSED.
ALL RIGHT, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE IT KNOWN THAT VAPING AND TOBACCO STORES ARE DIFFERENT, VERY DIFFERENT.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU GUYS GO TO PURCHASE YOUR CIGARETTES OR YOUR VAPING DEVICES, BUT THERE'S A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A VAPE SHOP AND A TOBACCO STOP SHOP.
WE DO NOT SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS OF ANY KIND.
WE NEVER HAVE, AND I NEVER WILL.
TOBACCO STORES SELL ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR.
I PROVIDE EDUCATION, MY EMPLOYEES PROVIDE THAT AS WELL.
ULTIMATELY, HARM REDUCTION IS THE MAIN REASON OF WHY WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2014.
UM, MY PASSION AND DRIVE HAS BEEN FOR A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE AND I OPENED MY BUSINESS FOR THAT FACT.
I'VE HELPED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS QUIT SMOKING.
MANY OF MY CUSTOMERS IN THOSE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE QUIT
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VAPING AS WELL.MANY OF THEM HAVE REDUCED THEIR NICOTINE TO ZERO.
THEY FEEL A DIFFERENCE IN VAPING VERSUS SMOKING.
AND ONLY A MATTER OF WEEKS, YOU ARE ABLE TO BREATHE, SMELL, AND TASTE FOODS AGAIN IN 2019.
THE AGE OF TOBACCO USE WENT FROM 18 TO 21.
THAT'S WHEN A TOBACCO HUT FRANCHISE MOVED INTO THE AREA.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL REMEMBER, IT'S HARD TO FORGET THE NEON LIGHTS THAT WE ALL PASSED TO GET INTO TOWN.
A TOBACCO HUT FRANCHISE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT SELLING TO YOUTH.
UM, WE ULTIMATELY PROTECT THAT.
WE WANT TO PROVIDE A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE TO THE ADULTS THAT WANT TO QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES AND EVENTUALLY PROVIDE OTHER ALTERNATIVES SUCH AS POUCHES THAT CONTAIN NO NICOTINE WHATSOEVER TO CONTINUE THAT JOURNEY.
UM, I, I THINK I PASS MAYBE THREE OR FOUR TOBACCO STORES TO GET TO MY ACTUAL VAPE SHOP, WHICH IS THE ONLY ACTUAL VAPE SHOP IN THIS TOWN.
THERE'S ABOUT 16, I BELIEVE THEY'VE CLOSED DOWN AT THE OTHER VAPE SHOPS THAT SOLELY FOCUSED ON THAT.
AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S JUST KIND OF GROWING MORE AND MORE.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, OVER THE YEARS MANY PEOPLE STARTED WITH 24 MILLIGRAM, 18 MILLIGRAM AND EVENTUALLY WEANED OFF ALTOGETHER.
SOME ARE ON THREE MILLIGRAM BEING THE LOWEST THAT IS PROVIDED.
AND HOWEVER, THE DISPOSABLES, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE WHAT DISPOSABLES ARE, BUT THEY ARE A LITTLE DEVICES THAT CHILDREN TAKE TO SCHOOL.
THERE'S, THERE'S 50 MILLIGRAMS OF NICOTINE, WHICH IS 30 BOTTLES OF THE AVERAGE ADULT USER USES 30 BOTTLES TO CONSUME IN TWO WEEKS.
TO AMOUNT TO THAT 50 MILLIGRAMS OF NICOTINE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE PACKS A DAY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE ADVERTISING ON THE BOXES SAY 5%, WHICH IS ACTUALLY 50 MILLIGRAMS. SO THEY'RE NOT EDUCATING OUR PUBLIC.
WHEN CUSTOMERS COME IN AND PURCHASE THESE DEVICES, WE EDUCATE THEM AND THEY ULTIMATELY ARE LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS DOING THAT TO MY BODY.
AGAIN, TOBACCO STORES DO NOT MAKE THIS KNOWN WHATSOEVER.
THEY WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE HOOKED AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I JUST REALLY WANT TO PUT AN END TO THE AMOUNT OF TOBACCO STORES AND THE AMOUNT OF SPECULATION THAT VAPE SHOPS AND TOBACCO STORES ARE LIKE.
AGAIN, I NEVER WILL SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND I PROTECT THE FROM VAPING.
ID THEY SELL TO ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SHARE, YOU CAN SEND IT TO COUNSEL.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.
[7.A. A Proposed Ordinance to Amend and Re-enact Chapter 85 of the Town Code Pertaining to Garbage, Rubbish, Refuse and Solid Waste Management.]
NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING.SORRY,
I, YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M MS. PRESLEY.
HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP.
UM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SIGN UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS? 'CAUSE IF NOT, I'M GONNA FOREGO READING MY RULES ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO, ALRIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THAT IS, UH, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO MEND AND REENACT CHAPTER 85 OF THE TOWN CODE PERTAINING TO GARBAGE, RUBBISH REFUSE AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT.
UM, MS. PRESLEY, CAN YOU READ THE SUMMARY? COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REENACT TOWN CODE CHAPTER 85 PERTAINING TO GARBAGE RUBBISH REFUSE AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT AS PRESENTED.
IF APPROVED COLLECTION CHARGES SHALL INCREASE A SOLID WASTE COST OF SERVICE STUDY WAS PERFORMED BY EMSW CONSULTANTS.
AND I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. PRESLEY, YOU SAID NO ONE WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND GIVE EVERY ANYBODY A CHANCE, AGAIN, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, SINCE NO ONE HAS, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REENACT FRONT ROYAL TOWN CODE CHAPTER 85, GARBAGE, RUBBISH REFUGE AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT AS PRESENTED.
OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WELL, MADAM MAYOR, IF I JUST, I JUST, WELL, REAL QUICKLY LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, COUNSEL TOOK THIS, UH, INTO CONSIDERATION WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.
UH, WHATEVER DECISIONS MADE BY THIS COUNCIL DEEDING ON THIS VOTE.
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TO SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING INTO THIS WITH A LOT OF INTEL.UM, AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL, WE, OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE'S GONNA BE, BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WE TOOK, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING FROM HOMER HERE TONIGHT, THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AMONGST COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE COUNTY ENACTING THE TIPPING FEES THAT THE TOWN NOW INCURS TO DUMP THE TOWN RESIDENT'S TRASH AT THE COUNTY TRANSFER STATION, WHICH ANY TOWN RESIDENT CAN GO TO THE COUNTY TRANSFER STATION AND DUMP THEIR TRASH FOR FREE.
HOWEVER, IF THE TOWN PICKS IT UP FOR YOU AS THE SERVICE THAT'S INCLUDED WITHIN THE TOWN, YOU SOMEHOW GET TO PAY TWICE BECAUSE YOU PAY TOWN AND COUNTY TAXES.
AND NOW WE'RE ALSO PAYING THE COUNTY A TIPPING FEE TO OFFSET SOME OF THEIR DEBT.
UM, SO THIS ISN'T A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT.
UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY LIKELY NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO COVER THAT.
TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ONE THING I DID WANNA MENTION, I BELIEVE WITH THIS ORDINANCE, UH, THIS WILL ALLOW, UM, SOME OF OUR CITIZENS WHO LIVE ON PRIVATE ROADS, UM, AS, AS I'VE BEEN DOOR KNOCKING, UM, I, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES ABOUT CITIZENS WHO LIVE ON PRIVATE ROADS.
UM, THEY, IF THEY GET WATER AND SEWER, THEY GET CHARGED A REFUGE PRICE, EVEN THOUGH, UM, THEIR TRASH HAS TO BE EITHER TAKEN TO THE END OF THE ROAD OR, AND WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE, UM, THEY CAN CHOOSE, UH, TO CONTINUE TO, TO TAKE THEIR TRASH TO THE END OF THE ROAD TO BE PICKED UP BY THE TOWN.
OR IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO HIRE SOMEBODY PRIVATELY, OR IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TRASH, UM, TO THE TRANSFER STATION THEMSELVES, THEY WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO PAY, UM, THIS FEE.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WAS, UM, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A FAIR, THAT THAT SEEMS MUCH MORE FAIR TO THEM.
SO I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL PASS.
ANYBODY ELSE? MADAM MAYOR? UH MM-HMM.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, UH, IF ANYONE'S EVER LIVED IN AN HOA, UH, UH, THEY WILL FIND THAT ANNUALLY THERE'S INCREASES, UH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY SOURCE IT OUT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE OF THE PRICES GOING UP.
UH, SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL SORT OF KEEPING IT UNDER OUR UMBRELLA, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A BETTER PLACE, UH, FINANCIALLY AND, AND, AND, UH, WITH REGARD TO COST.
UH, SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE SAVING THE, UH, TOWN, UH, MONEY OVER THE LONG RUN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, MS. PRESLEY, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL VICE MAYOR SELO? YES.
COUNCILMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
[7.B. A Proposed Ordinance Adopting and Enacting a Republished Code for the Town of Front Royal, Virginia ]
B IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADOPTING AND ENACTING A REPUBLISHED CODE FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.THE SUMMARY IS COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING AND ENACTING A REPUBLISHED TOWN CODE FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AS PRESENTED.
I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AND ACTING A REPUBLISHED TOWN CODE FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AS PRESENTED SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? UH, I, I'LL JUST SAY MADAM MAYOR, IT, IT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC WILL FIND THAT IT'LL BE EASIER TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OVER THE LONG RUN, UH, AS THIS IS, UH, IMPLEMENT IT.
AND, UM, FOR ANYONE WHO'S WONDERING HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK AT OUR, I BELIEVE IT'S OUR FIRST WORK SESSION OF THE MONTH, UM, MS. PRESLEY SHOWED US HOW TO, HOW TO USE IT, AND IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE USER FRIENDLY.
UM, WE EVEN SHARED IT WITH THE FOLKS AT THE CITIZENS ACADEMY ON THURSDAY NIGHT, AND I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY USER FRIENDLY.
I WANNA THANK MS. PRESLEY FOR, UH, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER
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BEFORE US SO THAT WE COULD HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO DO THIS FOR OUR CITIZENS.COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
[7.C. A Proposed Ordinance to Amend Town Code Chapter 1 and Repeal Chapter 43 and Chapter 180 ]
OKAY.NEXT UP IS ITEM SEVEN C, A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO AMEND TOWN CODE CHAPTER ONE AND REPEAL CHAPTER TH 43 CHAPTER 180.
SO COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND TOWN CODE CHAPTER ONE, GENERAL PROVISIONS AND TO REPEAL CHAPTERS 43, WHICH IS AIR POLLUTION AND CHAPTER 180, WHICH IS FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS.
UM, UM, CHAPTER ONE IS TO BE AMENDED TO COINCIDE WITH THE REPUBLISH OF THE CODE.
CHAPTER 43 WAS REPEALED IN 1985, BUT WAS NEVER ACTUALLY REMOVED FROM THE CODE.
AND CHAPTER 180 IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE PLACED IN THE CODE ANY LONGER.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OPEN UP TO COUNCIL.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REENACT FRONT ROW TOWN CODE CHAPTER ONE, GENERAL PROVISIONS AND TO REPEAL CHAPTER 43, AIR POLLUTION.
AND CHAPTER 180 FRANCHISE AGREE AGREEMENTS AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, ROLL CALL VICE MAYOR SEA LOT? YES.
COUNCILMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
THAT MAY VERY WELL BE THE FASTEST THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS WE'VE EVER HAD.
[9.A. Report of Town Manager]
NEXT UP, UM, ARE THE REPORTS.AND SO WE'LL START WITH THE REPORT OF THE TOWN MANAGER.
UH, LAST WEEK WE HELD OUR FIRST SESSION FOR THE CITIZEN ACADEMY, WHICH FOCUSED ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT COUNCIL GOALS AND TOWN WIDE PROJECTS.
IN OCTOBER, THIS GROUP WILL TRAVEL TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN TO LEARN HOW THAT PLAN OPERATES.
AS A REMINDER, THE CITIZEN ACADEMY WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR COUNCIL RETREAT IN JANUARY UNDER GOOD GOVERNANCE GOALS.
ALSO, OUR ENERGY SERVICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE DOING TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNAL WORK NEXT WEEK AT COMMERCE AVENUE IN SOUTH STREET INTERSECTION.
THIS WORK WILL HAPPEN OVERNIGHT TO REDUCE THE INCONVENIENCE TO TRAVELERS AND CITIZENS.
THIS WORK WILL INCLUDE UPDATING AND REPLACING EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING REPAIRING OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND LASTLY, I I WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO PERSONALLY THANK CHIEF MCGALL FOR HIS DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST 26 YEARS.
AS YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT, WHICH WILL BE EFFECTIVE ON OCTOBER 31ST, AS AFTER SERVING THIS COMMUNITY FOR SEVEN YEARS.
IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK BESIDE YOU, KALE, AND I WANNA WISH YOU ALL THE BEST MOVING FORWARD.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WISH YOU THE BEST.
SO I WANT TO INVITE ALL THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS OWNERS TO COME DOWN TO THE FIRE HALL AC COMPANY, ONE ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24TH FROM TWO TO FIVE TO SHOW YOUR APPRECIATION TO THE CHIEF.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT TONIGHT, MAYOR.
[9.B. Report of Councilmembers]
UP ARE THE REPORT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.AND I'M GONNA START RIGHT DOWN HERE.
SO, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT I'M JUST, INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR EVERYBODY TO, WE'RE KIND OF ON A ROLL HERE TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS TRAIN GOING.
SO COUNCILWOMAN DE DOMEN BAIN, I'LL BE EXTREMELY FAST.
UM, I DID ATTEND THE OPEN HOUSE AT THE WARREN HERITAGE SOCIETY ALONG WITH MANY OF THE OTHER COLLEAGUES HERE.
AND, UH, JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY THAT THIS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS A RICH HISTORY AND IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE THAT HAS ARCHIVED SO MUCH INFORMATION FOR US EDUCATIONALLY.
AND IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO GO AND LEARN ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY AND, AND THE EXCITING THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.
UM, AND REALLY THAT'S, I'VE BEEN OUT TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS, BUT THAT'S FOR A LATER DAY, I THINK, ON THOSE ISSUES.
UM, JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, ST.
LUKE'S CLINIC, UH, IS HAVING A FUNDRAISER OF THE CHARITY.
YOU GO ON THEIR WEBSITE, YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION.
I WANT TO SEND OUT A CONGRATULATIONS TO SAMUEL'S LIBRARY.
OUR LIBRARY WON THE, UM, LIBRARY OF THE YEAR AWARD HERE RECENTLY AND HOSTED ANOTHER VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, EVENT THIS PAST WEEKEND.
EARLY VOTING HAS BEGUN, UH, IT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AT THE 15TH STREET COUNTY COMPLEX.
THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE IS IN THE FRONT.
UH, MANY ELDERLY AND HANDICAPPED CITIZENS DON'T KNOW THIS.
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CAN PULL IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING OR THEY CAN PULL PAST THE BUILDING AND VOTE FROM THEIR VEHICLES.THAT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NINE TO FIVE AT THE REGISTER'S OFFICE.
MAYOR OCK, I DON'T HAVE A LOT, BUT CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FOR ALL THE YEARS.
I I KIND OF WATCHED YOU GROW UP IN IT, SO CONGRATULATIONS.
HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD TOOK SOME OF MY STUFF AWAY FROM ME, BUT THE, THE LAST TWO WEEKENDS, UH, BEFORE
AND YEAH, SUPPOSEDLY NO LINE
I UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT PRESENT AT LAST MONTH'S REGULAR MEETING TO MAKE THE COMMENTS THAT I WOULD'VE MADE LAST MONTH.
SO BEAR WITH ME WHILE I MAKE THEM THIS MONTH.
IT WAS MY FIRST EVER MISSED REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING DURING MY TWO TENURES ON THIS COUNCIL.
UM, AND I'M VERY SADDENED TO HAVE MISSED THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TRIP WAS PLANNED AND PAID FOR MANY MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
UM, AND EVEN IF I WAS ABLE TO REMOTE IN, I WAS UNABLE TO VOTE DURING THAT MEETING.
SO IT WAS MY HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD EXTEND THE SAME COURTESY THAT I'VE EXTENDED TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS DIOCESE WITH ME TODAY TO, UM, KEEP AN ITEM OPEN ON THE AGENDA SO THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS ELECTED DULY BY THE CONSTITUENTS TO SIT HERE AND REPRESENT THEM COULD HAVE HAD A VOICE IN THE MATTER BEFORE THEM DURING THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I KNOW THAT EVEN ON THE SIDE OF THINGS THAT I WAS OPPOSING OR IN FAVOR OF THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WEREN'T, I STILL EXTENDED THE COURTESY TO KEEP THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN OR TO ADD A SECOND WORK SESSION OR TO SEND THEM BACK AT TIMES TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS IT SO EVERYBODY COULD EXERCISE THEIR, THEIR RIGHT TO CAST THEIR VOTE ON THE PEOPLE ON THE BEHALF OF WHO ELECTED THEM.
UM, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL SAY THAT I WAS EXTENDED AN INVITATION LAST NIGHT TO TOUR THE MARSHALLS GLEN PROJECT THAT WAS PASSED LAST MONTH FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE'VE NOW LEARNED WILL BE DEVELOPED BY RYAN HOLMES.
I, UM, RESPONDED TO THAT INVITATION TO TOUR THE PROPERTY WITH THE DEVELOPER TOMORROW, AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS WITH ONE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, AND IT'S NOW BEEN CANCELED AS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DIDN'T DEEM IT APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.
SO I DIDN'T GET A VOICE AT THAT MEETING, AND I DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VOICE FOR IT AT A FUTURE DATE.
AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE I'M NOT GOING TO GET THE OPTION TO WALK THE PROPERTY AT NINE 15 TOMORROW WITH THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER DIDN'T SEE THAT FIT AFTER IT WAS SCHEDULED.
IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING TO SAY THE LEAST.
AND IT'S EXACTLY THE THINGS THAT I HAVE OPPOSED ADAMANTLY SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL.
THERE'S A STRATEGIC WAY THAT WE FACE GROWTH.
I DID WATCH FROM A DIFFERENT TIME ZONE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY THAT MEETING LAST MONTH, AND I DON'T THINK THAT I COULD SAY MUCH MORE THAN COUNCILWOMAN DE DOMENICO PAYNE HAS SAID, WE'RE NOT SOLVING THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY FACE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE SOLVING THE HOUSING CRISIS OVERFLOW FROM DC AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
THE AVERAGE TWO INCOME FAMILY HOUSEHOLD AND FRONT ROYAL IS NOT WHO WILL BE PURCHASING THESE RYAN HOMES.
THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE RYAN HOMES.
ALSO, WITH THE INCREASED TAX REVENUE THAT KEEPS BEING TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE INCREASED COST OF SERVICES.
SO WE'RE ALREADY AT CAPACITY, EVEN WITH THE RENOVATIONS FOR THE SCHOOL ON THAT END OF TOWN.
WE'RE ALREADY IN NEED OF A FIRE AND RESCUE ON THAT END OF TOWN.
AND WE'RE ALREADY DESPERATELY IN NEED OF THE EAST WEST CONNECTOR THAT WE HAVE NO PROFFERS FOR.
UM, I THINK THAT I'VE SAID ALL THAT I CAN SAY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN THE MATTER AT HAND RIGHT NOW REGARDING THAT ISSUE.
BUT THAT BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT.
I SAT FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY HELPLESS AS I WATCHED VALLEY HEALTH CLAIM TO BE VICTIMS. AS WAS SAID EARLIER TONIGHT, WHEN THE TRUE VICTIMS ARE THE PATIENTS SEEKING MEDICAL CARE, LIKE MY DAUGHTER LAST MONTH, WHO SPLIT HER HEAD OPEN.
AND WE SAT IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR TWO HOURS WITH A BLEEDING HEAD INJURY THAT NEEDED TO BE STAPLED SHUT.
AND WHEN THE DOCTOR FINALLY CAME TO US AND ASKED ME TO HOLD HER DOWN AND HOLD HER HEAD SHUT BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONLY EMERGENCY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL ON STAFF FOR THE 12 HOUR SHIFT IN THE WAR MEMORIAL ER, I SPOKE WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE ON STAFF THERE WHO APPRECIATED WHAT I'VE DONE ON THIS COUNCIL AND THE ISSUES THAT I'VE BROUGHT TO LIGHT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE OVERWORK AND UNDERPAID, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE A PART OF A MONOPOLY THAT THEY CAN'T HELP BUT TO BE A PART OF BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LARGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYER IN OUR AREA.
SO WHILE THEY DON'T SEE THAT IT'S OKAY, UM, IT'S NOT THE EVERYDAY CNA RADIOLOGIST, ANESTHESIOLOGIST OR SURGEON IN MORE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL WHO FELT ATTACKED BY THE COMMENTS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNCIL HAS MADE ABOUT THE LACK OF QUALITY
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CARE AND THE COST OF THE CARE IN THE VALLEY.IT'S THE CEO WHO'S HIGHLY OFFENDED, WHO I BELIEVE MADE MORE THAN $1.8 MILLION IN HIS SALARY LAST YEAR, AND ISN'T AFFECTED BY THIS AT ALL.
ALSO, MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT VALLEY HEALTH HAS RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED THEIR OWN HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER WAY FOR ME, FR TO ME, FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY, IT INCENTIVIZES THEIR EMPLOYEES TO USE THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE, TO USE VALLEY HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS FOR THEIR APPOINTMENTS, AS MANY OF THEM SEEK OUTSIDE MEDICAL CARE.
A FEW MONTHS BACK WHEN I NEEDED TO SEE A SPECIALIST, I WAS REFERRED TO A SPECIALIST WHO WAS BOOKING IN THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS, AND THAT WAS IN AUGUST OR JULY THAT I REACHED OUT TO THEM.
IT'S NOT AN ATTACK ON VALLEY HEALTH.
IT'S, AS SOMEONE ALSO MENTIONED EARLIER, OPENING THE FREE MARKET.
IF YOU HAVE COMPETING HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, IT ONLY INCREASES THE QUALITY OF CARE AND DECREASES THE COST OF CARE.
THE FACT THAT I WENT AND SAW THAT SAME SPECIALIST EARLIER THIS MONTH IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST SPEAKS VOLUMES.
THE COST OF LIVING ISN'T THE SAME HERE AS IT IS IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
HOWEVER, THE SERVICES ARE CHEAPER, AND THAT'S DUE TO THE FREE MARKET AND THE OPTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED.
UM, I HAVE NEVER ATTACKED ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES.
ACTUALLY, MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE THERE DURING THE TIME OF BIRTH, LOCALS INCEPTION, WERE WALKED OUT AFTER THEIR SERVICES WERE NO LONGER NEEDED AFTER 30 LOYAL DEDICATED YEARS TO VALLEY HEALTH IN THE VALLEY.
AND THEY DIDN'T DESERVE THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT.
THEY ALSO WERE REFUSED TO ACCEPT GIFTS FROM BIRTH LOCAL AT THAT TIME.
UM, AND IT'S JUST, THERE'S ONE THING ON TOP OF THE OTHER THAT ARE CONCERNS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A QUICK CARE AND AN URGENT CARE.
IF YOU BREAK A BONE OR NEED EMERGENCY SERVICES, IT'S APPOINTMENT ONLY TO WALK INTO THOSE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, YOU'RE TURNED AWAY.
THERE'S NOTHING URGENT OR QUICK ABOUT THAT CARE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO DRIVE THIS POINT HOME, BUT I AM FAITHFUL THAT THIS COUNCIL THAT I SIT AMONGST TODAY HAS HEARD THE CRIES OF THE PUBLIC, UM, AND WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC NEED WHERE WE CAN WELCOME IN A COMPETING HEALTHCARE PROVIDER.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE PRIVATE PRACTICE TO DATE, STILL STANDING IN FRONT ROYAL THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BUY OUT.
UM, ANYWAYS, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR HIS SERVICE AND DEDICATION TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
I'VE ONLY BEEN A TOWN CITIZEN VERSUS A COUNTY CITIZEN FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
AND I THINK THAT THE TOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF BEING OUT AND BEING PRESENT AND BEING OPEN AND COMMITTED TO COMMUNICATING WITH THE YOUTH AND BEING ON THE STREETS AND BEING THE FACE OF FRONT ROYAL.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL BE MISSED, SO ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
UH, I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FIRST OFF REPORT THAT THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE GOT TOGETHER ON, UH, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER NINE 19TH OF THIS MONTH.
UM, WE HAD A QUICK MEETING, A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WHERE THE STARS UPDATE, WHICH IS THE SAME UPDATE THAT, UH, UH, MR. CAMPBELL FROM VDOT, UH, PRESENTED TO US.
AND, UH, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UH, IN PARTICULAR, IT WAS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE BEING DISCUSSED TO BE MADE, UM, ON, UH, THE CORRIDOR, UH, NORTH OF TOWN.
UH, AND THESE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING, THAT WERE BEING DISCUSSED, NOT NECESSARILY IN TOWN, BUT OUT IN THE COUNTY.
UH, THE SIX, THE 6 0 6 EMERGENCY OVERPASS.
UH, OF COURSE SHANNON, SHANNON DO SHORES, UH, ROAD.
UH, THE F THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION IS STILL DISCUSSING THAT.
UH, THE THOUGHT BEING THAT A, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A GRAVEL, A GRAVEL, UH, ENTRANCE OR A GRAVEL, UH, PATHWAY BE PUT UP TO, TO THE ROAD SO THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN ACCESS, ACCESS THAT AREA IF IF NECESSARY, IF THERE, IN CASE THERE'S A TRAIN BLOCKING THE TRACKS.
UM, ANOTHER UH, POINT THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS, UH, THE WORK BEING ON ROCKLAND ROAD.
AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S NOT IN TOWN, BUT, UM, THE GENTLEMAN THERE FROM VDOT SAID THAT AS OF HIS LATEST UPDATE, WHICH WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, SAYING THAT THAT WAS STILL ON SCHEDULE.
UH, ONE THING I WILL, UH, POINT OUT, UH, THAT WAS MENTIONED TO US ACT ACTUALLY CAUGHT, UH, CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE, WAS A NUMBER OF, UH, FATALITIES THAT HE REPORTED THIS YEAR FROM VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS.
UM, THIS, AT THIS POINT, THIS YEAR, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN, AND WE'RE IN STANTON DISTRICT, OF COURSE, WHICH IS JUST PART OF THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY TO INCLUDE OBVIOUSLY THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW IN THE, IN THE ENTIRETY OF WARREN COUNTY.
UH, JUST THIS YEAR ALONE, UP UNTIL UP UNTIL THIS POINT, UH, OF SEPTEMBER, OR ACTUALLY THIS WAS, I THINK COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS WAS THIS AUGUST.
I THINK HE SAID IT WAS THROUGH AUGUST.
THERE WAS, YES, THROUGH AUGUST.
UH, 62 FATALITIES HAVE BEEN REPORTED THIS YEAR ALREADY.
UH, AT THE SAME TIME THIS LAST YEAR THERE WERE ONLY 49.
AND THROUGHOUT A THREE YEAR AVERAGE,
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UH, THEY SAID THERE'S ABOUT 53, UH, PER YEAR PER YEAR BASED UPON THE PREVIOUS THREE YEAR AVERAGE.SO, JUST WANNA NOTE, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE HAS BEEN A SPIKE IN FATALITIES.
HE DIDN'T GO INTO THE DETAILS SO MUCH THAT I RECALL ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REASONINGS BEHIND THEM, OBVIOUSLY NO SPEEDING ALCOHOL.
UM, BUT, UH, JUST WANNA BRING THAT UP.
'CAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BROUGHT UPON, UM, BY A QUESTION, UH, ABOUT OUR, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE SPEED, UH, SPEED REDUCTION REQUESTS.
SO ANYWAYS, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AS FAR AS, UH, MY REPORT FOR TOWN AND COUNTY, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING.
UH, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO REFLECT WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID ABOUT, UH, CHIEF MCGILLIS, UH, WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATE HIM ON HIS RETIREMENT.
UH, I'VE LIVED HERE GOING ON 10 YEARS, AND, UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I ALWAYS SAY THIS, HIS GRANDFATHER WAS THE VERY FIRST FIRST PERSON THAT APPROACHED ME WHEN I MOVED INTO TOWN BEFORE I EVEN BOUGHT MY HOUSE.
UM, AND, UH, SO I CAN TELL WHERE CAL COMES FROM, GOOD STOCK.
SO ANYWAYS, I WISH HIM ALL THE BEST.
AND, AND THE YEARS I'VE LIVED IN TOWN, I THINK FRONT ROW HAS GOTTEN BETTER, SO YOU WILL BE MISSED.
BUT THANKS CHIEF COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT.
WHERE'S MY HAT? WHERE'S YOUR HAT? NATIONALS? OH, OKAY.
OH, WHERE AM I GONNA START TONIGHT? I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT.
I'LL TRY NOT TO MAKE IT VERY LONG.
UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE FOR, FOR BEING LATE, BUT, UH, THERE WAS A MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT AT, UH, DELLA PLAIN.
UH, SO FOLKS OUT THERE, BE CAREFUL.
UH, SATURDAY NIGHT I ATTENDED, UM, A ROTARY FUNCTION.
UH, THE BLUE, UH, THEY, THEY WERE SPONSORING, UM, A NONPROFIT, UH, BLUE, BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, I MUST SAY, UH, YOU PICKED A GOOD ONE.
UH, UH, THESE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE, UH, UH, PHYSICAL AND, UH, SOME MENTAL CHA CHALLENGES.
BUT, UM, MAN, UH, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW ANY FOLKS THAT HAVE, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, THAT, THAT HAVE PROBLEMS, UH, YOU CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO RECOGNIZE THESE TYPE OF NONPROFITS.
SO, UH, THANK YOU ROTARY FOR THAT.
UH, SECONDLY, UM, WITH REGARD TO WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MORRIS, UH, SAID ABOUT THE MARSHALL GLENN PROJECT, UH, I LOOK, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THAT SITE AS WELL.
UH, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN DOING IT WHEN THEY COME UP WITH A SITE PLAN.
UM, I HOPE THAT WE AS A, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
UM, AND, UM, I'LL, UH, MENTION, UH, THE CHIEF, UH, THE MCGILL'S, UH, NAME AND FAMILY GOES WAY BACK, UH, WITH ME BECAUSE, UM, UH, YOUR FATHER ACTUALLY WORKED IN MY FAMILY'S BUSINESS MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
UH, AND HE COULDN'T WAIT TO GET OUT OF THERE SO HE COULD GO UP TO THE HOUSE AND MOW GRASS.
UH, SO, UM, IF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A, UH, UH, MEN'S AND WOMEN'S, UH, APPAREL BUSINESS, UH, THAT RAN 91 YEARS FOR THAT, UH, WHICH THAT WAS A NICE RUN.
UH, THE LAST THING I GOT FOR YOU AND I, I, I KNOW THAT IS ON THE SUBJECT MATTER TONIGHT, UM, REGARDING THE, UH, HEALTHCARE.
UM, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THIS AS WELL.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING ON MY MIND.
UM, I WAS BORN IN THE, UH, THE
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WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL BACK IN THE DAY,RIGHT? UH, AND, UH, I THINK DOC SHERMAN, UH, OBSERVED IT.
I DON'T THINK SHE PULLED, PULLED ME OUT.
BUT, UM,
THERE WAS A, A JAM IN THE HEALTH FORUM.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT IT, THE AUTHOR, ONE OF THE AUTHOR WAS, WAS, AND I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE HER LAST NAME, KATIE COS COSMO MANN.
SHE'S A, HAS A PHD FROM U UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.
AND THIS STUDY WAS DONE IN 2022.
UM, THERE WAS A SURVEY DONE WITH 292 RURAL HOSPITALS ABOUT OPS OP OBSTE, HELP ME OUT.
MAYOR OBSTETRIC, OBSTETRIC, OBSTETRICIAN OBSTETRICIAN OBSTETRICS OBSTE.
WHICH ONE? OB WHICH ONE? OB, YEAH.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, UH, IN THAT SURVEY OF THE 292, I'LL ONLY READ YOU THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
AND, UH, THESE WERE DONE WITH ADMINISTRATORS.
UH, THEY FOUND THAT IN THE SURVEY OF US RURAL HOSPITALS THAT OFFER OBSTE BABY SERVICES, HELP ME, MANY ADMINISTRATORS INDICATED PRIORITIZING LOCAL NEEDS FOR PREGNANCY AND CHILDBIRTH CARE OVER CONCERNS ABOUT FINANCIAL VIABILITY AND STAFFING.
POLICIES TO IMPROVE RURAL CARE ACCESS SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONCERNS ABOUT COMMUNITY NEEDS, CLINICAL SAFETY AND RECRUITMENT RETENTIONS AND TRAINING FOR THE PHYSICIAN AND NURSING WORKFORCE.
IN ADDITION, ADJUSTING REIMBURSEMENTS POLICIES FOR LOW VOLUME RURAL HOSPITALS MAY HELP ENSURE FINANCIAL VIABILITY AND CONTINUE OPERATIONS OF RURAL HOSPITALS.
BABY SERVICE LINES, LOCAL BABY CARE ACCESS IS IMPORTANT FOR RURAL RESIDENTS AND RURAL HOSPITALS.
ADMINISTRATORS ARE COMMITTED TO EFFORTS TO IMPROVE MATERNAL, MATERNAL AND INFANT HEALTH, AND COMMUNITIES THAT ALREADY EXPERIENCE POOR OUTCOMES.
THERE'S A LOT OF STATISTICS IN THIS STUDY.
UM, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN, IN IT, UH, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.
[9.C. Report of the Mayor]
YOU.SO THE MAYOR'S REPORT, UM, UH, BEFORE I START CHIEF MIGUEL'S KALE, I, WHEN EVERYBODY STARTED, I KEPT THINKING, WELL, YOU'RE NOT RETIRING UNTIL OCTOBER 31ST, SO I GOT ANOTHER CHANCE NEXT MONTH.
RIGHT? SO ANYWAY, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WASN'T GONNA MISS YOU LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SAID IT.
SO I'LL JUST SAY IT AGAIN IN OCTOBER.
UM, BUT, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT FEELS LIKE IN THE PAST MONTH, IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN DOOR KNOCKING, UH, AND TALKING TO A LOT OF ASSISTANCE.
THERE'S REALLY ONLY A FEW EVENTS THAT I ATTENDED, UH, THAT I WAS GONNA SHARE.
SO LAST THURSDAY, UH, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING THE FIRST CITIZENS ACADEMY AT TOWN HALL.
FOR THOSE WHO REMEMBER THIS PAST JANUARY, MYSELF AND THE COUNCIL SET GOALS AND ACTION STEPS THAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH STAFF'S HELP AND THE CITIZENS ACADEMY IS ONE OF THOSE ACTION STEPS UNDER OUR GOOD GOVERNANCE GOAL.
THERE WERE SIX PARTICIPANTS WHO JOINED IN THAT EVENING, AND THE TOPIC FOR THAT NIGHT WAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MORE THAN SIX THAT ARE SIGNED UP, BUT THAT'S HOW MANY COULD ATTEND RIGHT? THAT NIGHT, THAT EVENING.
SO THE MONTHS AHEAD ARE GONNA FOCUS ON DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
I, I THINK THE FIRST NIGHT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
THE PARTICIPANTS WERE ENGAGED.
UM, THEY SEEMED TO, UM, BE ENLIGHTENED BY A LOT OF THINGS.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FUTURE SESSIONS.
SO I APPLAUD COUNCIL AND, AND ALL OF US FOR SETTING THAT GOAL.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, UH, THE REST OF THE SESSIONS.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER YEARS.
UM, IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO SIGN UP THIS TIME, MAYBE YOU WILL.
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WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE WARREN COUNTY CHEERLEADING ASSOCIATION'S ANNUAL DUCK RACE.UH, IF YOU'VE NOT AWARE OF WHAT THAT IS, THE CHEERLEADERS ACTUALLY SELL LITTLE PLASTIC DUCKS THAT ARE NUMBERED INDIVIDUALLY TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
IT'S A FUNDRAISER, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALL THE PLASTIC FLOATING DUCKS GET RELEASED INTO HAPPY CREEK, UM, DOWN BY B CROSBY.
AND THEN THEY FLOAT DOWN THE CREEK.
AND THE FIRST DUCK TO CROSS THE FINISH LINE WINS A PRIZE.
AND THE LAST DUCK THAT CROSSES THE FINISH LINE ALSO WINS A PRIZE.
UM, AND IT, IT WAS REALLY QUITE INTERESTING.
UM, THEY HAD OVER 1700 FLOATING DUCKS ON SATURDAY, IF THAT GIVES YOU ANY IDEA.
NONE OF MY QUACK PACK WON ANYTHING.
UH, BUT THE KIDS HAD FUN AND THEY RAISED MONEY FOR THEIR ORGANIZATION.
THIS AFTERNOON ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE ARC OF WARREN'S NAVIGATING THE MAZE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, WAS THE FIRST, UH, EVENT LIKE THIS THAT I HAD, I HAD ATTENDED.
UM, I WAS INVITED BY ADAM, UH, BITNER, UM, AND HIS CREW FROM THE ARC OF WARREN.
SO IT, IT INCLUDED A PANEL DISCUSSION OF NAVIGATING SERVICES FOR THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
UM, I, THERE WAS TALKING GOING ON, BUT THERE WAS MOSTLY JUST TABLES SET UP.
AND IT WAS, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE VISITOR CENTER, IT WAS THE MAIN ROOM AND THE TWO SIDE ROOMS AND TABLES WERE SET UP ALL AROUND WITH SERVICES.
JUST NOT JUST LOCAL SERVICES, BUT STATE SERVICES, ALL, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, AND I THINK EVENTS LIKE THIS ARE SO VALUABLE TO THE FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE AND HOW TO ACCESS THEM.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVEN THOUGH I WAS INVITED THERE, UM, BECAUSE THE ROLE I HAVE AS MAYOR, AS A TEACHER, I WENT, I WAS COLLECTING STUFF LEFT AND RIGHT, UM, FROM THE TABLES SO THAT I COULD SHARE WITH, UM, SOME OF OUR PARENTS, MY PARENTS AND MY OWN CLASS, AND THEN OTHERS.
SO, UH, IF ANYBODY NEEDS CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THIS GROUP, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I'LL, I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITIES.
THEY WERE THERE, UM, UH, LIAM'S CHANCE WAS THERE.
JUST, UH, I, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY, MANY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND THERE WERE A LOT OF CITIZENS THERE.
UH, AND NOT JUST PARENTS, BUT THERE WERE ADULTS, UM, WITH, UH, WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND, AND THEY WERE HELPING ALL OF THEM AND GIVING LOTS OF INFORMATION.
SO I APPLAUD THEM FOR COMING, UH, FOR SETTING THIS UP.
UM, IT WAS FROM, UH, FOUR TO EIGHT, I BELIEVE.
ANYWAY, REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION, YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO TO KNOW THAT, UH, THIS SUNDAY IS CELEBRATE KIDS DAY, AND THE WARREN COALITION DOES THAT.
IT IS THIS SUNDAY AT THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, UM, OUT ON OLD 15TH STREET SCHOOL, IS WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE LOCALS KNOW THIS SUNDAY FROM ONE TO FOUR, UM, IT'S A DOLLAR.
AND, UM, YOU GET A BRACELET AND THERE'S RODS AND, AND, UM, FACE PAINTING, A PET PETTING ZOO, THERE'S INFLATABLES.
UM, AND I'M GONNA BE IN THE PITCH BURST FOR 18 MINUTES, AND SO IS THE CHIEF.
SO, UH, IF YOU, UM, WANNA SUPPORT US,
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I, I JUST, I WENT LAST YEAR AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS RAINING, THERE WERE TONS OF PEOPLE THERE, AND I JUST, I APPLAUD THE WARREN COALITION FOR WHAT THEY DO FOR THESE EVENTS.
'CAUSE THE KIDS, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS A GREAT DAY, AND I'M SURE IT WILL BE ON SUNDAY TOO.
UH, LASTLY, I'VE BEEN DOOR-KNOCKING AND TALKING TO FOLKS IN TOWN, AND I WANT, I WANT TO SHARE THAT I'M OFTEN REMINDED OF HOW BLESSED WE ARE TO HAVE THE TOWN STAFF THAT WE DO.
OUR EMPLOYEES ARE THE BACKBONE OF THIS ORGANIZATION.
AND OUR CITIZENS HAVE MANY, MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, SHARE WITH ME HOW GRATEFUL THEY ARE FOR THE WORK OUR EMPLOYEES DO.
THEY'VE SHARED STORIES ABOUT HOW AN EMPLOYEE ADDRESSED A NEED OR A CONCERN OF THEIRS AND HOW THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR OUR CITIZENS.
UM, AND I'M, I'M JUST VERY PROUD OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND WANTED TO SHARE MY APPRECIATION AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE THE QUALITY SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF FRONT ROYAL BECAUSE THEY ARE GRATEFUL.
AND I KNOW JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE, 'CAUSE I'M IN ONE OF THOSE JOBS TOO, THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS HEAR THE PATS ON THE BACK.
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AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU ALL TO ALL OF Y'ALL.[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
NEXT UP IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.IF THERE IS A MOTION FROM COUNCIL.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? THE ONLY DISCUSSION I'D LIKE TO NOTE IS THAT ITEM 10 D IS A REQUEST FROM THE SALVATION ARMY TO WAIVE THE SUP APPLICATION FEE FOR A PROPOSED MURAL AT 2 96 SOUTH STREET.
DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL, WE'VE HAD MANY NEW MURALS POP UP THROUGHOUT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE PART OF THE BEAUTIFICATION OF FRONT ROYAL.
AND ANYTIME SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING WITH A BUILDING THAT'S IN ONE OF OUR MAIN CORRIDORS OR AN ENTRY CORRIDOR TO BEAUTIFY THAT, I THINK THAT IT'S WELL DESERVED.
AND THE SALVATION ARMY, UM, DOES A LOT OF GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO IF ANYBODY DESERVES TO HAVE THAT APPLICATION FEE WAIVED, IT IS THEM.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, MS. PRESLEY, ROLL CALL.
COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
[11.A. Resolution to Cancel October 15th and November 4th Regular Work Sessions]
IS ITEM 11 A.AND THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION TO CANCEL THE OCTOBER 15TH AND NOVEMBER 4TH REGULAR WORK SESSIONS.
COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO CANCEL THOSE, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN OUR TIME, OUR TOWN CODE, AS TO WHEN WE WILL HAVE WORK SESSIONS AND WE'LL HAVE, WHEN WE'LL HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS.
IF FOR SOME REASON WE, UM, THAT IT'S, THAT WE NEED TO CANCEL THEM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO, UM, TAKE ACTION ON THAT AT A MEETING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WHY.
SO, UM, IF, IF, UH, MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, UH, TO CANCEL OCTOBER 15TH AND NOVEMBER 4TH.
REGULAR WORK SESSION MEETINGS.
COUNCILMAN DE DEMON PAYNE? YES.
UH, SO WE'LL HAVE ONE WORK SESSION IN OCTOBER AND ONE WORK SESSION IN NOVEMBER.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER ANYWAY BY TOWN CODE.
[11.B. Resolution Requesting Additional Healthcare Providers and Services for the Town of Front Royal & Warren Co.]
ALRIGHT, ITEM 11 B IS THE RESOLUTION REQUESTING ADDITIONAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS AND SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY.AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THAT RESOLUTION FOR PEOPLE'S KNOWLEDGE SO THAT, UM, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE US.
SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING ADDITIONAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS AND SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY.
WHEREAS THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL VALUES THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF ITS CITIZENS AND RECOGNIZES THE GROWING NEED FOR LOCALLY ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE, AND TIMELY HEALTHCARE.
WHEREAS TOWN COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGED CITIZENS' CONCERNS ABOUT THE LACKING CERTAIN MEDICAL SERVICES, LONG WAIT TIMES, BILLING, COVERAGES, EXPENSES RELATED ISSUES, AND BURDENSOME TRAVEL TO ACCESS CARE OUTSIDE OF FRONT ROW WARREN COUNTY.
WHEREAS THE MARCH OF DIMES, THE UNITED STATES 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT, THAT WORKS TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH OF MOTHERS AND BABIES RECOGNIZED AS AN EXPERT ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO SAID HEALTH OF MOTHERS AND BABIES, HAS NOW IDENTIFIED PORTIONS, THE SHENDO VALLEY AS BEING AN MATERNITY DESERT.
THIS BY DEFINITION MEANS WOMEN AND BABIES ARE AT AN INCREASED RISK.
THIS TOWN COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR SERVICES IN FRONT OF WARREN COUNTY IN CONSIDERATION OF THE REMOVAL OF WOMEN'S CARE IN 2018, AND THAT THERE IS NO KNOWN PROPOSAL TO REINTRODUCE WOMEN'S CARE.
TOWN COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES THE NEED FOR OPTIONS TO ENSURE THE NEEDS OF OUR WOMEN AND BABIES ARE ADEQUATELY MET.
WHEREAS TOWN COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT OUR LACK OF CERTAIN MEDICAL SERVICES IS RESULTING IN HIGHER FREQUENCY OF MEDICAL TRANSPORT TO FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA.
TOWN COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES THAT MEDICAL TRANSPORT COMES WITH ADDITIONAL RISK AND EXPENSE, WHEREAS DATA PROVIDED BY WELDON COOPER AS OF JANUARY, 2024, SHOWS THE POST PANDEMIC INCREASE AND REMOTE WORK HAS RESULTED IN MIGRATION.
OUT OF NOVEMBER, UH, I'M SORRY, OUTTA NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND INTO RURAL NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, TOWN COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES THE NEED FOR MEDICAL SERVICES WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AS TOWN POPULATION AND THE POPULATION OF NEIGHBORING COUNTIES INCREASES.
WHEREAS THE PROCESS BY WHICH TO OBTAIN A COP AND WHICH IS A CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC NEED, IS EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING.
TOWN COUNCIL WISHES TO ASSERT THEIR INTENTION OF WELCOMING NEW HEALTHCARE SERVICES INTO THE COMMUNITY.
WHEREAS FRONT ROW WARREN COUNTY IS IDEALLY SITUATED IN THE SHENDO VALLEY AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS, 66 EAST WEST, AND 81 NORTH SOUTH, AND MULTIPLE BYWAYS, ROUTE 3 45 22, AND ROUTE 55.
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OUR PRIME LOCATION WOULD STRATEGICALLY DRAW PATIENTS FROM NEIGHBORING RURAL COMMUNITIES TO HELP SERVE THEIR HEALTHCARE NEEDS AS WELL.WHEREAS TOWN COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT REMOVING BARRIERS TO CARE HAS BEEN PROVEN TO RESULT IN BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES LONG TERM, AND THAT EXPANDING LOCAL HEALTHCARE OPPORTUNITIES WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA, THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL DESIRES TO EXPAND THE MEDICAL CARE AVAILABLE IN FRONT.
ROYAL WARREN COUNTY AND HEALTHCARE SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF LOCATING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD BE TAKING ACTION ON TONIGHT.
SO, DO I HEAR A MOTION, MADAM MAYOR? I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE A RESOLUTION REQUESTING ADDITIONAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS AND SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION WHAT I DIDN'T ADD DURING MY COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT.
IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU RUN AN ADEQUATE SERVICE AND YOU PROVIDE ADEQUATE CARE TO YOUR PATIENTS, THE THOUGHT OR THE THREAT OF WELCOMING AND COMPETING HEALTHCARE PROVIDER WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A THREAT, BUT IT WOULD BE WELCOMED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE SERVICES AREN'T EVEN PROVIDED BY SAID HEALTHCARE PROVIDER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OTHER MADAM MAYOR? UM, I WANTED TO ADD, I TRIED TO LOOK UP SOME OF THE DATA TODAY.
UM, YOU ALL CAN DO IT AT HOME FROM THE HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION.
IT'LL, IT SHOWS YOU BY MAP WHERE THERE ARE HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGES.
WARREN COUNTY HAS HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGES FOR PRIMARY DENTAL AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS.
NOW, IT'S NOT DRASTIC AT THIS MOMENT.
THEY, THEY GO BY RATIO OF HOWEVER MANY PRACTITIONERS TO HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE.
UM, SO AS WE BRING MORE PEOPLE IN, THAT WILL MEAN THAT EVEN MORE THOSE NUMBERS WILL GO UP.
BUT THE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS, IS IT'S NOT JUST DATA.
IT'S THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.
SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND HAS TO WAIT FOR AN MRI, SOMEBODY WHO HAS THEIR CHILD HAS TO WAIT FOR SERVICES.
THE EXPERIENCES GO BEYOND THE DATA.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT AND, AND ALSO KNOWING THAT IN THE HEALTHCARE PROFESSION, THERE'S A REAL, UM, THRUST IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA RIGHT NOW WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO INTO THE HEALTH PROFESSIONS AND ACTUALLY GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR COLLEGE TUITION, UM, TAKEN CARE OF.
SO IT'S A, THERE'S GONNA BE A REAL, A PUSH FOR HAVING HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS IN OUR AREA.
AND I THINK THAT WE WANT, IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EMPLOYERS FOR THOSE FOLKS AND WHO WILL ALSO BE SERVING THE NEED, WE WANT TO HAVE OPTIONS FOR THEM.
WE WANNA HAVE MORE THAN ONE OPTION.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS JUST WHAT IS ON THE PAPER IS NOT WHAT THE EXPERIENCES ARE, YOU KNOW, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A PLETHORA OF SERVICES.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED, UM, ALL KINDS OF, IT'S NOT JUST THE MATERNITY GROUP, IT'S ALSO THE AGED GROUP.
THE, THE GROUP WHO HAS, WHOSE PRIMARY CAREGIVERS FOR ELDERLY PARENTS HAVE SEEN DELAYS OR HAVE SEEN THOSE NEEDS NOT MET.
SO IT GOES ACROSS THE LIFESPAN AND IT ALSO GOES ACROSS THE MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF, OF SITUATIONS THAT PEOPLE FACE.
SO WE, SOME OF US HAVE HAD FINE EXPERIENCES WITH VALLEY HEALTH, AND AS MANY OF US NOTED, IT'S, IT'S NEVER, UM, THAT WE WOULD EVER SAY ANYTHING AGAINST THE, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND FOLKS WHO, THE NURSES AND THE CNAS AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
IT'S THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS BRINGING ANOTHER GROUP IN WILL ALLOW US OPTIONS.
AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH OPTIONS TO CREATE A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO TO COM TO GET THE SERVICES THAT WE WANT AND HAVE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT.
IF THERE'S, UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE AGAIN THAT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR RESIDENTS, THOSE WHO ELECTED US TO OFFICE, AND WE HAVE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BIRTH LOCALLY AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, UH, ITEMS THAT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN DE DOMINICO PAY MENTIONED.
I, I, AGAIN, THIS DOOR KNOCKING, I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEEDS LOCALLY.
UM, WE ARE A GROWING COMMUNITY.
THIS HAS NEVER BEEN A PERSONAL ATTACK, BUT RATHER WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND SHARING THE CITIZEN'S CONCERNS.
UM, IF THERE ARE OTHER PROVIDERS WHO MIGHT WANT TO EXPAND INTO THIS AREA TO ADDRESS THE UNMET NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, I HOPE THEY WILL CONSIDER FRONT ROYAL IN WARD COUNTY.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I MEANT TO, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WHILE THE BIRTHING ASPECT OF IT, AND MOTHERS AND INFANTS IS RELEVANT AND PERTINENT TO THIS, OBSTETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY
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AREN'T JUST FOR WOMEN WHO BEAR CHILDREN.THEY PROVIDE REGULAR PREVENTATIVE MEDICAL CARE FOR YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE NOT YET 18 ALL THE WAY TO WOMEN AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE.
SO ELIMINATING THE WOMEN'S CARE ASPECT HAS HURT A LOT MORE THAN JUST CHILDBEARING WOMEN.
I THINK THE MESSAGES WE WERE LOOKING, I THINK WHEN I WAS OUT, UH, POLITICKING, I GUESS IS A GOOD WORD, UH, I FOUND THAT WHAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR WAS A FULL SERVICE HOSPITAL SYSTEM HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, LIKE WE HAD BEFORE.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO SUM IT ALL UP, I MEAN, THAT INCLUDES NOT A STEP DOWN CRITICAL CARE, BUT, UH, AN INTENSIVE CARE UNIT AS WELL.
SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE TWO THINGS.
PATERNITY INTENSIVE CARE UNIT IS WHAT I HEARD.
UM, MS. PRESLEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL.
COUNCILMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
SO THE NEXT, UM, ITEM IS THOSE WHO WROTE IT? YES.
[11.C. Resolution Calling for the Dissolution of The Industrial Development Authority of the Town of Front Royal and the County of Warren, Virginia and The Appointment of a Receiver]
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA.AND THE APPOINTMENT OF A RECEIVER.
AND I JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND VOLUNTARILY SAY THAT I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS RESOLUTION.
'CAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S THREE PAGES AND IT'S ONLINE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE, SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT, BUT IF NOT, THEY CAN CERTAINLY SEE IT BY GOING ONLINE.
SO, UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION, MADAM MAYOR? I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA.
AND THE APPOINTMENT OF A RECEIVER AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK ALL DISCUSSION COULD BE POINTED TOWARDS RECENT AND FORMER BOARD MEMBERS' COMMENTS TO THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY ROYAL EXAMINER, AS WELL AS VARIOUS OTHER OUTLETS.
MR. PRESS, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
COUNCILMAN DE DEMON PAYNE? YES.
SO THAT RESOLUTION ALSO PASSES.
[11.D. BAR Appeal – Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for 240 Blue Ridge Avenue – Teddy Stout Construction, Inc.]
THE LAST BUSINESS ITEM THAT WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT IS A BAR APPEAL, WHICH IS A, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR TWO 40 BLUE RIDGE AVENUE.UM, I, I'LL READ THE SUMMARY AND THEN I'M GONNA LET STAFF TAKE OVER AT THAT POINT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS TEDDY STYLE CONSTRUCTION, IS APPEALING THE DENIAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW MADE SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2024, TO CONSTRUCT DUPLEXES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT LOCATED AT TWO 40 BLUE RIDGE AVENUE PURSUANT TO TOWN CODE 1 75 DASH 94.
COUNSEL WILL HEAR THE MATTER, UM, AT ITS NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, UM, AND WILL RE, WHICH IS TONIGHT, AND WILL RENDER ITS DECISION ON THE APPEAL AT THE FILING, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
SO, UM, JUST FOR PEOPLE'S KNOWLEDGE, THE TOWN CODE SAYS THAT ANY APPLICANT THAT'S AGGRIEVED BY A FINAL DECISION OF THE BAR MAY APPEAL SAID DECISION TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL, PROVIDED THAT SUCH APPEAL IS FILED IN WRITING WITH THE TOWN CLERK WITHIN 10 DAYS.
AFTER THE FINAL DECISION IS RENDERED BY THE BAR TOWN COUNCIL WILL HEAR THE MATTER, WHICH AT ITS NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING AND WILL RENDER ITS DECISION ON THE APPEAL AT THE FOLLOWING REGULARLY SCHEDULE MEETING.
THE COUNCIL AND ITS DISCRETION MAY CONSIDER ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE AND SUBMISSIONS DURING THE PERIOD BETWEEN MEETINGS AND AT THE SECOND REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING PRIOR TO RENDERING ITS DECISION.
AND SO, UM, I AM GOING TO START OFF AND HAVE STAFF, UH, SHARE THEIR INFORMATION.
I, OKAY, SO, UM, THIS IS THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPEAL.
UM, SO THIS WAS FILED BY TEDDY STYLE CONSTRUCTION, AS YOU STATED, UH, FOR A DUPLEX AT TWO 40 BLUE RIDGE AVENUE.
A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO THIS PROPERTY WAS THE ONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE HOUSE FIRE, UM, LAST YEAR, NOVEMBER 24TH.
SO AFTER THE INVESTIGATION WAS CONCLUDED BY THE
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FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, STAFF SENT OUT THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE NOTICES, AND THAT WAS BACK IN MAY.UH, THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD, THEY SUBMITTED THEIR ABATEMENT PLAN TO STAFF, AND THEN THEY APPLIED FOR THEIR DEMOLITION, UM, PERMIT BACK IN, UH, JUNE.
IT WAS GRANTED BY THE BAR IN JULY, SO ON JULY 17TH.
THE NEXT STEP OF THAT WAS THAT THEY WOULD APPLY FOR THEIR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE ACTUAL USE.
SO THEY WANNA REPLACE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH THE DUPLEX, WHICH IS BY RIGHT IN THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND THAT APPLICATION WAS DENIED ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, SO JUST A QUICK RECAP OF RELEVANT TOWN CODE.
SO 1 75 89 A TWO EXPLAINS WHY THE BAR NEEDED TO HEAR THIS.
SO, ANYTIME THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH EXCEEDS 500 SQUARE FEET, THE BAR MUST, UM, PROVIDE THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND THEN 1 75 DASH 91.
THIS IS THE SECTION OF OUR ORDINANCE THAT KIND OF HELPS GUIDE THEIR DECISION MAKING.
IT, IT, IT JUST CREATES THE FRAMEWORK OF, OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THESE APPLICATIONS AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE GENERAL DESIGN, THE CHARACTER, THE SCALE, THE FORM, MAKING SURE THAT IT, IT FITS WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSED WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE DUPLEX, THEY WOULD, UM, ESSENTIALLY JUST SO TWO STRUCTURES JUST SIDE BY SIDE ATTACHED BY A COMMON WALL.
UM, THEY WOULD HAVE VITAL SIDING AND ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF.
THEY PROPOSED, UH, DECORATIVE, UM, LIKE SCALLOP SIDING IN THE GABLES.
AND THEN UNDER THE BAY WINDOWS IN THE FRONT FACING BLUE RIDGE AVENUE, UH, THEY ALSO PROPOSED A BAY WINDOW FACING PROSPECT STREET.
AND THAT THERE WOULD BE METAL ROOFS ON THE, UM, I GUESS THE AWNINGS FOR THE BAY AND THEN THE PORTICOS THAT ARE OVER THE FRONT DOORS.
AND THEN HERE, UM, THIS IS WHAT THE SITE PLAN, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED, UH, SHOWS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TWO DUPLEXES THERE.
UH, THEY'RE SET BACK APPROXIMATELY 32 FEET FROM THE, UM, SIDEWALK, UM, THAT IS IN LINE WITH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE DOES STATE THAT NO BUILDING NEED TO BE SET BACK MORE THAN THE AVERAGE SETBACKS IN THE IMMEDIATELY ADJOINING STRUCTURE.
SO, UM, BUT THIS IS HOW THEY SUBMITTED IT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS, ONE COMING OFF OF PROSPECT STREET.
THERE'S ALREADY A CURB CUT ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE WITH AN EXISTING GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.
AND FOR THESE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT, WHICH THEY'VE, THEY'VE PROVIDED.
UM, AND, AND THE BAR IS GONNA GET UP AND TALK ABOUT WHY THEY MADE THE DECISION, UH, THAT THEY MADE.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BAR COMES UP? DOES ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, THE, THE, THE DRIVEWAY THING, WHEN YOU SAID THAT, UM, ON THAT QUESTION YOU SAID THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE TWO SPACES FOR EACH DUPLEX.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT IT, THE TWO THAT ARE THERE WOULD BE ONE, AND THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE ON THE STREET? NO, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE FOUR OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
SO THE ONE UP THERE ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE IS ENOUGH FOR TWO? I CAN'T SEE WHAT THE DIMENSIONS ARE, BUT YEAH.
THAT'S JUST THE ONE ON PROSPECT LOOKS LIKE LARGER.
LARGER, THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS.
SO MY QUESTION IS ABOUT PROCESS.
I, I KNOW THAT, UM, I SAW WHERE, UM, THE BAR GAVE, GAVE SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS TO THEM.
SO WAS IT THAT THEY, WERE THEY NOT ALLOWED TO MAYBE, UM, RESPOND ENTIRELY TO THOSE SUGGESTIONS AND REDO THEIR PLAN, OR THEY HAD TO CARRY THIS PLAN THROUGH TO THIS POINT? THE DENIAL WAS GEORGE DID THAT, THEIR DISCUSSION DURING THE MEETING WAS THAT THEM AMENDING THE APPLICATION? I THINK WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
NOW I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S HERE.
NO, I JUST WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE, UM, AROUND, UM, THE SUGGESTION YOU WANTED TO HAVE MORE OF A VICTORIAN DESIGN, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
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AND SO I'M WONDERING, DO THEY THEN, AFTER THIS PROCESS, DO THEY, DO THEY, WHETHER LET'S SAY IT GETS DENIED OR NOT DENIED, EXCUSE ME.LET'S SAY WE UPHOLD THE, THE BAR APPEAL.
THE BARS, UM, RECOMMENDATION THEN, THEN WHAT IS THEIR NEXT STEP? THEY CAN'T CONSTRUCT A, THEY CAN'T PUT SOMETHING THERE WITHOUT BAR APPROVAL.
SO SUBMIT, THEY WOULD NEED TO RE BUT SO TO GO BACK, SUBMIT TO A NEW PLAN AND, AND YES, THEY CAN SUBMIT A NEW PLAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR STAFF? I, I BELIEVE I WHERE, WHERE DOES THE 20 TO 25 FEET SIT BACK, COME INTO PLAY? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? WELL, THEY'RE PROPOSING IT.
THERE'S A, I THIS IS IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
IS THAT, AM I, AM I CORRECT? SO THE SETBACKS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR THE UNDERLYING ZONE, THE R THREE ZONE ARE THAT YOU'D HAVE SEVEN FOR THE SIDE YARD, 25 FOR THE REAR, AND THEN IN THE FRONT IT WOULD BE 30, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MORE THAN THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
SO WHATEVER THE NEIGHBOR'S SETBACK IS, THAT CAN BE THEIR SETBACK AS WELL.
IN THEIR PLAN, THEY SUBMITTED A 32 FOOT SETBACK.
SO THEY'RE BEYOND WHAT THEY NEED TO BE, BUT THEY'RE WITHIN THEIR BUILDING ENVELOPE.
BUT MOST OF THE HOUSES ON THAT, ON THAT, UH, STREET, WHEN YOU, IF YOU WERE TO WALK A STRAIGHT LINE MM-HMM.
AND THEY COULD CHOOSE TO, I GUESS, SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION AND, AND BRING IT FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, FOR COUNCIL? OF COURSE.
WE CAN ALWAYS ASK YOU AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY.
THE, THE TOWNHOUSES ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD, ARE THEY, HOW FAR ARE THEY SET BACK? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SETBACK ON THOSE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A 32 FEET TO ME.
SO, BUT FROM WHAT YOU SAID, WHEN YOU SAY THEY HAVE TO MATCH WHATEVER THEIR NEIGHBOR IS, THEY CAN MATCH WHAT THEY CAN MATCH.
BUT DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE IN ACROSS THE STREET OR IT ONLY INCLUDES SIDE BY SIDE ACROSS THE STREET.
WHEN YOU SAY NEIGHBORS, WHAT, WHAT INCLUDES THE, SO JUST DIRECTLY ADJACENT.
SO IT HAS TO BE TOUCHING THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
SO THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET AREN'T RELEVANT TO THIS AND THERE'S A STREET.
SO THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE AREN'T EITHER.
SO IT'S ONLY THE ONES THAT ARE TOUCHING THE TOUCHING PROPERTY LIGHTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT I WAS VOTED CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AGAINST MY WILL AND IN MY ABSENCE
I WROTE A BRIEF STATEMENT ABOUT THIS.
HOPEFULLY IT MIGHT CLEAR UP OUR THINKING A LITTLE BIT AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THIS.
THE BAR'S DECISION TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR TWO 40 BLUE RIDGE AVENUE WAS NOT MADE LIGHTLY IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
WE UNDERSTAND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS A SAFETY HAZARD AND A CONSTANT REMINDER OF THE TRAGEDY THAT OCCURRED.
IT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THE BAR ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT REBUILDING SUCH A HOME OR ANYTHING TO A SIMILAR STANDARD OF CRAFTSMANSHIP TODAY WOULD BE COSTLY, TIME CONSUMING, AND POTENTIALLY FINANCIALLY FRUITLESS.
THE BAR, THE BAR MEMBERS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO DENY THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THE PROPOSED DESIGN WAS CONCEIVED WITHOUT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN MIND.
WE CONCLUDED THAT THE COPY AND PASTE APPROACH THAT IS BUILDING WHAT SELLS RATHER THAN WHAT FITS, RUNS COUNTER TO THE BAR'S VISION FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WHILE THE APPLICANT OFFERED SEVERAL POTENTIAL CONCESSIONS AND ALTERATIONS, THESE AMOUNTED A LITTLE MORE THAN CAMOUFLAGE TO MASS THE DESIGN'S UN SUITABILITY FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
A POINT THAT THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS MADE CLEAR IS ONE TO AVOID.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN IS MEANT TO BE BUILT QUICKLY AND WITHIN A SPECIFIC BUDGET.
THE MATERIALS ARE SELECTED BASED ON COST, EASE OF INSTALLATION, AND FUTURE MAINTENANCE.
FROM A DEVELOPER'S PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN AGREE THAT THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
AS THE APPLICANT NOTED IN OUR MEETING, IT'S WHAT SELLS THE QUESTION THAT THE BARK IS CONFRONTED WITH IS HOW DOES THIS DESIGN ONE THAT WE CAN SEE MANY EXAMPLES OF ELSEWHERE CONTRIBUTE TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? DOES IT ADD TO OR SUBTRACT FROM THE CHARM AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THIS CHALLENGING AND SUBJECTIVE QUESTION IS, REPRESENTS THE BASIS OF ALL OF THE BAR'S DECISIONS.
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WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE SCALE AND SETBACK OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN.IN ADDITION TO THE DESIGN'S FRONT FACADE BEING WIDER THAN THE TYPICAL HOME ON THE STREET, THE FRONT FACADE WAS SETBACK SIGNIFICANTLY FARTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL HOME AND NEARLY ALL OTHER HOMES ALONG THE STREET.
THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY DISRUPTS THE FLOW AND CONTINUITY OF THE STREETSCAPE.
WE ACCEPT THAT THIS SETBACK ISSUE IS OUT OF THE APPLICANT'S CONTROL, AS THEY MUST MEET REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TOWN CODE, WHICH ENFORCE A MINIMUM SETBACK AND OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT DIRECTLY CONFLICT WITH THE COMPATIBILITY OF NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
PERSONALLY, I SEE OUR DECISION TO DENY THIS APPLICATION AS A FAILURE, NOT BECAUSE I THINK WE MADE THE WRONG JUDGMENT, BUT BECAUSE OUR PROCESS, OR MORE SPECIFICALLY LACK OF A PROCESS LED TO THIS OUTCOME.
CURRENTLY, THE BAR LACKS A STRAIGHTFORWARD, PROACTIVE PROCESS TO GUIDE APPLICANTS AND IN TURN OUR DECISIONS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS WAS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS FOR ALL PRESENT AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH RESULTED IN LITTLE MORE THAN A FRUSTRATING CIRCULAR ARGUMENT.
RESOLVING THIS ISSUE AND CRAFTING UPDATED GUIDELINES ARE TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE BAR MOVING FORWARD.
IF THIS COUNCIL DECIDES TO OVERTURN THE BAR'S DECISION, WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE A MOMENT TO CONSIDER THE FACTORS THAT WE HAVE.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, DOES THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE FALL IN LINE WITH THE SURROUNDING HOMES? WHEN LOOKING DOWN THE STREET, DOES THE ROOF LINE FAR EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS? DOES THE DESIGNS WITH DEPTH AND OVERALL SCALE NOT FIT WITH SURROUNDING HOMES? DO THE MATERIALS USED AT LEAST COMPARE TO THOSE USED MOST PROMINENTLY THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? HAS THE APPLICANT APPROACHED THE DESIGN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF CONTINUITY AND HAR FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF CONTINUITY AND HARMONY, OR FROM A COST BENEFIT VIEWPOINT? DOES THE DESIGN ADD ANYTHING UNIQUE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT SHOULD THE HISTORIC DISTRICT LOOK LIKE, LOOK AND FEEL LIKE IN 10, 20 OR 50 YEARS? WHY SHOULD WE CARE? DO WE SETTLE FOR CHEAP IMITATIONS OR STRIVE TO SET A NEW HIGHER STANDARD? THESE DIFFICULT QUESTIONS REQUIRE MORE IDEAS, DESIGNS, AND INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
IN CONCLUSION, OUR DECISION PRIORITIZE COMPATIBILITY OVER POTENTIAL RESALE VALUE.
WE SEE THIS AS A POSITIVE MOVE TOWARDS SERVING THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTERESTS AND SAFEGUARDING OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE BAR AND TOWN COUNCIL TO BETTER ALIGN OUR VISION FOR PRESERVING OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND TO ADDRESS SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN IT.
COLIN, WOULD YOU MIND, UM, JUST SO, 'CAUSE YOU SAID SOME THINGS THERE YOU, UH, THAT DO YOU WANNA SEND, CAN YOU SEND THAT AS AN EMAIL TO COUNSEL SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT SURE.
AT THIS TIME, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BAR? EVEN THE CALL MADE IT CLEAR.
DIDN'T WANNA BE THE ONE TO ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? WERE YOU GETTING READY TO ASK ONE OR WERE YOU JUST SIGNING? I COULDN'T, UH, WELL, I FEEL THE FRUSTRATION.
SO, UH, WELL, I WAS OUT THERE YESTERDAY, I WALKED THE STREET AND I, I WAS LOOKING AROUND, UH, AT, AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, HOUSES ON, I THINK I WALKED ALL THE WAY UP TO SOUTH STREET AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT OCCURRED IN, IN, IN THIS AREA DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT HAPPENED, UH, IN MAYBE BEFORE, UM, BEFORE THE, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS CREATED.
UM, SO YOU, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE LIKE A, I'M GONNA USE THE TERMINOLOGY, UH, A MISHMASH OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, UH, THE, IIII UNDERSTAND IT'S A, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HISTORIC DISTRICT TO TRY AND KEEP THE STANDARDS, UH, HIGH, UH, OTHERWISE WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING A HISTORIC DISTRICT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.
MADAM MAYOR, I, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT A COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, BUT THIS IS TO AM AM I OUTTA LINE? THIS IS TO HEAR THE CASE.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION IS WHAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
SO DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M NO SEQUESTERED.
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QUESTION.IF YOU COULD WAVE A MAGIC WAND, LIKE HOW, HOW IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU'RE, OH, SORRY.
I GUESS THAT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.
SORRY, MY QUESTION WAS AT, AT, UM, YEAH, NEVERMIND.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL ARE, YOU RAISED THE POINT THAT YOU FELT LIKE THEY NEEDED TO BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS AND THAT THE BAR WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, TO EXPLORE THAT A DIFFERENT PROCESS? WE NEED A PROCESS PERIOD.
WE NEED TO SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN THAT GUIDES APPLICANTS AND OUR DECISION MAKING IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
IT, IT, IT CAN'T BE, HEY, HERE'S THIS IDEA WE HAVE.
LET'S THROW IT ON THE TABLE AND TRY AND MAKE A DECISION IN AN HOUR AND A HALF IN A MEETING IN ONE NIGHT.
IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, A BACK AND FORTH.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION.
AND THE APPLICANTS NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BUILDING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT MEANS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ANY PART OF TOWN.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND HOLD TO A CERTAIN STANDARD.
SO I HAVE A KIND OF A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BUT IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST NOT IN PLACE YET AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE, SO, OKAY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT NOW.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO WHAT, UM, MR. WATERS JUST SUGGESTS OR WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD GUIDE ABOUT A PROCESS OR LIKE TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS? I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY MORE HERE'S NO, NO, NO.
I WAIT ON STAFF, BUT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE A PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE GUIDELINES THAT THE BAR USES THAT ARE ENABLED BY WHAT, 1 75, RIGHT? 84 B FIVE OF TOWN CODE.
SO THE APPLICANT GETS THIS, THE BAR GETS THIS, THIS EXPLAINS HISTORIC MATERIALS, HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, MASS.
AND DOES IT REFERENCE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND REFERENCES NEW CONSTRUCTION, NOT JUST RENOVATIONS? CORRECT.
THERE'S A SECTION IN HERE FOR NEW, UM, CONSTRUCTION, BUT I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS 10 YEARS OLD.
THAT'S KIND OF THE OTHER HALF OF THAT POINT IS THE GUIDELINES DO EXIST AND PORTIONS OF THEM ARE OUTDATED.
OTHER PORTIONS ARE VERY RELEVANT AND GOOD, BUT OKAY.
WE JUST, WE'VE BEEN CIRCLING AROUND THE IDEA OF REVISING THE GUIDELINES FOR A YEAR AND WE JUST, I CAN'T GET ENOUGH MOMENTUM TO GET 'EM RIGHT.
WHIPPED INTO SHAPE, BUT, OKAY.
BUT THIS, THIS APPLICATION HAS, UM, MAGNIFIED THAT NEED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF FOR, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE BAR? THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND THANK YOU GUYS EXPLAINING IT.
AND SEND, SEND AN EMAIL TO, OR YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME.
AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, RIGHT? IS THAT, THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PATH.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS OR IF YOU JUST WANT ME TO TALK AND I ASK QUESTIONS.
NO, UM, DO, HOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO,
IF YOU WANNA I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF HIS COMMENTS THAT HE HAD DONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WENT BACK AND ACTUALLY WATCHED THE HOUR AND 45 MINUTE MEETING THAT WE HAD AT THE LAST ONE.
WE DID NOT GET VERY FAR AT ALL.
THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT.
HE IS VERY CORRECT IN SAYING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AS THOSE BUILDINGS GET OLDER AND SOME OF 'EM ARE DILAPIDATED, THEIR CONDITIONS ARE NOT VERY GOOD.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEELING PAINT ON SOME OF 'EM.
PEOPLE, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT MAINTAINING 'EM.
UM, AND IT PACIFICALLY ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE, THERE'S A MIX.
ABOUT 50% OF THE HOUSES ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE ARE VINYL SIDED.
50% OF THEM HAVE METAL ROOFS, 50% OF THEM HAVE SHINGLED ROOFS.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE COMING IN AND SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE ONLY GONNA GIVE YOU THIS.
AND I KIND OF TOOK OFFENSE TO HIM SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA COME IN HERE AND SLAP SOMETHING UP JUST BECAUSE OF THE THING.
IF YOU LOOK AT, I DIDN'T COME IN HERE AND PROPOSE THIS.
I CAME IN AND PROPOSED GIVING YOU THE SCALLOPS, GIVING YOU SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT LOOK ARCHITECTURAL.
IT WAS A TRAGIC THING THAT THE FIRE HAPPENED.
PEOPLE DON'T BUILD 19 30, 19 40 VICTORIAN HOUSES ANYMORE.
IT JUST, WE'RE NOT IN THOSE THAT ERA ANYMORE.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE LAST ONE.
ONE WAS BUILT EVEN IN FRONT ROYAL PERIOD.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE HISTORICAL
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DISTRICT, WE TOOK RESPECT TO THAT AND SAID, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO RESPECT THE, CAN YOU TURN BACK TO OUR TOWNHOUSE TO, TO THE FRONT OF IT? WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS BLEND IN WITH THE, WITH THE SUBDIVISION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE? SO WE WENT BACK TO THE OLD HOUSE.THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT WITH THE FIRE, YOU RIGHT ON THE TOP LEFT.
IT HAD THE SCALLOPS, A BIG NICE BAY WINDOW THERE.
TEDDY AND I CAME UP WITH, OKAY, ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE'LL PUT THE SCALLOPS ON IT.
HOW MANY BUILDERS PUT METAL ROOFS AS ACCENT PIECES? NONE.
TEDDY'S BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS.
WE'RE NOT A NATIONAL BUILDER THAT COMES IN AND JUST PUTS PASTE AND STICK UP CHEAP BUILD.
WE'RE NOT IN IT FOR THE ONLY LAST DIME THAT MAN JUST PUT HIS HEART AND SOUL ON FIVE PROJECTS.
I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO RIDE BY ON NINTH STREET AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE JOB THAT HE DID.
THAT'S THE FINISHED PRODUCT THERE.
WE OFFERED LIMESTONE FOUNDATION TO TRY TO MATCH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WE COULD'VE COME IN AND DID VINYL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.
WE CAME IN, WE PUT THE STONE IN THERE TO TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK HISTORIC.
WE'RE GONNA GO WITH A LIMESTONE COLOR THAT'S A BROWN COLOR.
WE WANTED TO GO WITH MORE OF A LIMESTONE, BUT SOMETHING TO MAKE IT LOOK HISTORIC UP IN THE TOP OF THE GABLE.
WE ALSO SAID, OKAY, WELL WE'LL DO YOU THE SCALLOPS UP THERE.
WE'LL DO THE FANCY LITTLE CUSTOM ARCHITECTURAL PACE.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, THEY SAID, WELL, ALONGSIDE PROSPECT, WE DID LITERALLY EVERYTHING WE COULD FOR AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES TO MAKE THESE PEOPLE HAPPY.
SOME OF IT'S BECAUSE OF LACK OF, THEY HAVE NO GUIDELINES TO GO BY THAT HONESTLY, THEY REALLY HAVE NO GUIDELINES TO GO BY.
THE SECOND WAS THEY WANTED AN ARCHITECTURAL TYPE HOUSE.
NO, IF ANDS AND BUTS NO IN BETWEEN, WE WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
WE EVEN COME BACK TO THEM AND EVEN OFFER THEM OVER AND ABOVE AND SAID, OKAY, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VINYL, WE'LL GIVE YOU LP SIDING.
WE SAID, OKAY, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE ASPHALT ROOF, WHICH THERE AGAIN, IT'S 50% ASPHALT ROOFS ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A METAL ROOF ON THE THING.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO APPROVE US? NOTHING.
IF WE WEREN'T GONNA BUILD A HISTORICAL HOUSE ON THAT CORNER OF PROSPECT IN BLUE RIDGE, THEY WEREN'T GONNA APPROVE IT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
TO ADDRESS ONE THING THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT, CAN YOU SWITCH BACK TO THAT PLAT? ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAD TO OFFSET THE TOWNHOUSES IS BECAUSE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, WE CANNOT DO PER TOWN CODE NOW.
WE CANNOT DO OFF STREET PARKING.
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TWO PARKING SPOTS.
ONE ON FACING BLUE RIDGE, WE SAID THE OTHER ONE.
WE WOULD COME IN AND DO THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY OFF PROSPECT FOR THAT UNIT.
SO THE, THE PARKING HAS TO BE NINE BY 1818, SO WE HAVE TO BE IN 18 FEET OFF THE SIDEWALK.
THAT'S WHY THOSE TOWNHOUSES GOT PUSHED BACK.
HOWEVER, JOHN HAS FOUND A LITTLE THING THAT, AND LAUREN HAD SPOKE ABOUT IT, THAT WE COULD PUSH HIM UP.
WE OFFERED THAT NO BIG DEAL AGAIN, THAT WE GOT NOWHERE.
WE WERE SPINNING OUR WHEELS THE WHOLE NIGHT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHY, AND I, I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO RIDE DOWN BLUE RIDGE AVENUE AND JUST SEE THE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE AS FAR AS THE 50% OF 'EM IS VINYL, 50% OF 'EM IS ASPHALT.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA GO IN AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS ON BLUE RIDGE AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA RIDE BY AND GO, OOH, WHAT'S THAT? I MEAN, SO YOU ALL WERE WILLING TO PUT THE METAL ROOF ON? YES, SIR.
WE GAVE THEM $40,000 WORTH OF UPGRADES THAT NIGHT.
THEY, WE CAME IN AND WE SAID WE WOULD DO, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY WANTED WOOD IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WE DID NOT WANNA DO WOOD DECKS.
WE WANTED TO DORES, WE WANTED TO DO VINYL ON THE BACK.
WE WANTED TO DO WHITE VINYL FENCING IN THE BACK.
THEY WANTED WOOD BECAUSE IT'S IN THE TORICAL DISTRICT.
WOULD IT LOOK LIKE CRAP IN 10 YEARS? ABSOLUTELY.
LAUREN, I GUESS MAY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU? WHAT'S THE, I MEAN, THE TREX, THE TREX LOOKS JUST LIKE LUMBER.
UH, EVENTUALLY, LET ME GET BACK TO THAT.
THEY WERE KIND OF OKAY, OR I SPEAK FOR SOME OF, THEY WERE, THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE TREX OR THEY WASN'T AB ABSTAINED.
SO I DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT UP ON THAT.
IT WASN'T SO MUCH THE PARKING THAT CAUGHT 'EM UP OR THE TREKS OR WHATEVER.
THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE WERE DOING ENOUGH FOR THE OUTSIDE DOING THE STONE, THE SCALLOPS AND, AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
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ABOUT, UH, I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME KIND OF MENTION.I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE VIDEO, BUT I READ THE NOTES.
SOMETIMES NOTES AREN'T WHAT THEY ARE, BUT, UH, THE WRAP THERE WAS MENTION ABOUT A, A, A WRAPAROUND PORCH.
WE WERE THROWING ALL KINDS OF IDEAS AT 'EM AND SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU WANT US TO DO THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN A WRAPAROUND PORCH TO KIND OF GIVE IT THE FEEL.
WE WERE AT THE END OF THE MEETING OF JUST TELL ME, GOD FORBID, WHAT DO YOU WANT THERE? AND THERE WAS NO, THERE'S NO ANSWERS TO THE REMEDY.
I, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANTED.
ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S NOT ENOUGH GUIDELINES IN PLACE, OR LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY ARE HUNG UP ON THE FACT THAT IT'S A BIG VICTORIAN HOME, UNFORTUNATELY BURNED DOWN AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN.
GOD FORBID IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MOTHER NATURE'S GONNA HAPPEN AND YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF, SOMETHING'S GONNA GO BACK THERE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE, NOT LOOK LIKE THE PLAIN JANE.
I GUESS THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS.
LIKE I GUESS WHAT I'M, OH, WE DO TRYING TO SAY IS IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS.
THE BAR MAKE SUGGESTIONS THEM COME BACK AND FORTH.
IS IT NOT LIKE THAT? UM, I'M JUST ASKING.
THEY, THEY COULD HAVE MADE, UM, A DIFFERENT MOTION.
THEY COULD HAVE MADE A MOTION TO, TO HOLD IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
AT THIS MEETING, THEY, THEY CHOSE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT, BUT MAKING THE MOTION DOESN'T ALLOW THE CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH.
I, I'M GONNA USE THE WRONG WORD, BUT NEGOTIATING IS REALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.
WE DID IT FOR AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS, WE JUST, WE WE HIT AHEAD AND WE FELT LIKE WE WERE GOING NOWHERE.
THAT'S, I WAS JUST ASKING, THAT'S WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE PROCESS OF THE BAR, IS IT? IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE THAT WHERE IT DOES JUST TO PROVE IT'S NOT AESTHETICS.
I I JUST, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR STAFF OR FOR THE BAR? JUST GOT ONE.
UM, THE ONE PICTURE SAYS NO GRILLS AND WINDOWS, THAT'S JUST TO CROSS BARS AND THE WINDOWS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS WHISPERING
I JUST ASKED SAM THE SAME THING BEFORE.
NO, I WAS WHISPERING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME DOWN THERE, IF YOU'LL PAY ATTENTION, SOME OF 'EM HAVE LIKE REAL BIG FOUR, SOME OF 'EM HAVE NONE.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE HISTORIC INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE GIRLS IN BETWEEN AND A LITTLE BIT CLEANER.
LOOK, I HATE ONE BORN, THAT'S WHY I WENT TO KINDERGARTEN.
THAT'S, THAT IS A LITTLE MORE HISTORIC, I THINK WITH NO, WITH NO GRILLS.
YEAH, THE GRILLS IN BETWEEN ARE KIND OF, YEAH.
ANOTHER QUESTION, THIS IS MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
SO IF COUNSEL WERE TO UPHOLD THE BAR DECISION, UM, THAT'S NOT THE END OF THIS, RIGHT? LIKE, THEY CAN COME BACK.
IT'S, I, THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WHERE LIKE WE HAVE BUSINESS ITEMS OR ITEMS WE TAKE ACTION ON AND IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR A YEAR OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS.
I, MADAM, MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS, YES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS YOU.
THIS IS JUST AN APPEAL, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND.
I, I KNOW WHAT THE APPEAL MEANS.
I JUST KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THERE ARE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT APPLIES TO LEGISLATIVE ACTS.
I JUST REMEMBER THE MURPHY BUILDING.
THAT WAS A SITUATION WHERE A YEAR LATER SOMETHING THEY HAD HAD TO YEAH.
SO THAT WAS FOR A DEMOLITION THAT REQUIRED A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S, I WAS JUST CLARIFYING FOR ALL OF US, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THEIR DEMOLITION PERMIT.
BUT YOU GOTTA COINCIDE IT WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT WITH WARREN COUNTY.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE TOWN PROCESS.
SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PART OF IT.
TOWN'S PROCESS FOR THE COUNTY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOW KEEP IN MIND, DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND A MONTH FROM NOW.
IF STAFF ASK QUESTIONS, I'M ASSUMING IF WE HAVE QUESTION, IF COUNSEL HAS QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH YOU TO, TO CORRECT.
MAKE SURE YOU WOULD ASK STAFF AND THE, UM, BOARD, WE WOULD BOARD STAFF.
AND YOU WOULD CONTACT BARR AND YOU WOULD CONTACT THE APPLICANT? YES.
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ALL RIGHT.[12. CLOSED MEETING]
IS ITEM NUMBER 12.DO I HEAR MOTION? MADAM MAYOR? I MOVE THAT A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 2 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSE.
AND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDERED TAKING ACTION ON THESE MATTERS IN AN OPEN SESSION.
ONE PURSUANT TO 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A, ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
SECOND WAS GLENN VICE MAYOR LOC.
COUNCILWOMAN DE DE PAYNE? YES.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO INTO CLOSE AT THIS TIME.