[Economic Development Authority on August 5, 2024. ]
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UM, MEETING AT FRONT ROW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? FRANK NOVA HERE.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF LAST MEETING? JULY 1ST, 2024.
CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? ALRIGHT, UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY, UH, ANY MORE RESPONDENTS ON THE BUSINESS? WELL, WE'LL GET TO THAT.
LET'S APPROVE THIS MINUTES FIRST.
UM, SO, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THESE MINUTES.
ANYONE OPPOSED? SO THOSE PASSED.
UM, WE'LL GET TO THAT DOWN ON ITEM FOUR.
WELL, UM, AS PROMISED, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE THIS PRESENTATION FOR YOU LAST MONTH, BUT I, UH, ONCE I STARTED DOWN THIS ROAD, I REALIZED THAT I HAD A LOT MORE INFORMATION TO GATHER.
SO TODAY, JUST GONNA TAKE YOU A QUICK, GIVE YOU A QUICK HIGHLIGHT OF SOME ACTIVE PROJECTS.
KIND OF PUT 'EM IN TWO BUCKETS, WATER AND SEWER, WHICH ARE BASICALLY ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND IN STREETS, BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS, WHICH ARE GENERAL FUNDS.
AND THEN I GOT A FEW OTHER, UH, HIGH LEVEL PROJECTS THAT I WANTED TO, TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UH, FIRST WATER AND SEWER IS OUR REDUNDANT WATER LINE.
UH, THIS PROJECT, UH, STARTED BACK IN JANUARY OF 23.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS PROJECT STARTED IN MY FIRST TENURE, UH, IN, UH, MAYBE 20 15, 20 16 IS WHEN THIS REALLY STARTED.
UM, WHAT THIS WILL DO, WE'LL PROVIDE A REDUNDANT LINE OUT TO THE CORRIDOR.
UH, AS ALSO PART OF THAT PROJECT, WE ARE CREATING LOOPS IN THE CORRIDOR.
SO THIS WILL PROVIDE REDUNDANCY AS WELL AS IMPROVE OUR SERVICEABILITY IF WE DO HAVE A BREAK.
UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES ON THIS PROJECT WAS GOING UNDER THE, UH, SHADO RIVER.
WE MICRO TUNNELED UNDER THAT, ABOUT 60 SOME FEET UNDER THE RIVER.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES.
WE, WHEN WE MICRO TUNNELED, WE WERE DOING MAYBE NO MORE THAN 10 FEET A DAY.
UH, BUT WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CROSSED THAT, UH, LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TARGETED COMPLETION OF DECEMBER OF 24.
ALRIGHT, UM, NORTH ROYAL AVENUE WATERLINE PROJECT.
THIS IS ONE WE'RE JUST STARTING TO WORK ON.
THIS WILL BE FROM NORTH COMMERCE TO WEST SIXTH STREET.
IT'S A REPLACEMENT OF A 12 INCH WATER LINE, BIG WATER LINE.
ESTIMATED COST OF THIS REPLACEMENT.
IT'S A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, ALRIGHT, ARE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT INFLUENCE PUMPS? UH, THIS IS ALMOST ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.
UH, THESE PUMPS WERE ORIGINALLY INSTALLED IN 1976.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE IS THAT THE TOWN DOES MAINTAIN THEIR EQUIPMENT VERY WELL.
WE NORMALLY GET EXTENDED LIFE OUT OF THIS.
ALL FOUR OF THOSE PUMPS ARE BEING REPLACED RIGHT NOW.
UH, THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER.
OUR SANITARY SEWER, I AND I PROJECTS, WHICH IS INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, UH, WE ARE WORKING OFF OF $202.7 MILLION.
THIS INCLUDES PIPE REPLACEMENT, UH, PIPE REHAB AND LINING.
AND THIS RIGHT HERE IS JUST A QUICK PIT, UH, PICTURE OF LINING WHERE THEY PUT THE ADDITIONAL NEW LINING IN, IN THE PIPES, AND ALSO MAN REHAB.
UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THIS, BECAUSE OF THIS INVESTMENT AND THE WAY WE OPERATE OUR PLANT, UH, FOR 2024, OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE PLAN OF THE YEAR.
BECAUSE OF THESE INVESTMENTS AND BECAUSE OF HOW WE OPERATE OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.
THE STATE, YES, ON TAPE, UH, MCKAY SPRINGS WATER SOURCE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE I CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 22.
UM, THIS BECAME A GOAL OUT OF COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF, UH, THIS YEAR.
UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A NATIONAL SPRING ON THIS PARCEL.
IT PRODUCES ABOUT 700,000 GALLONS PER DAY.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS WE USE AROUND 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
WE PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR TO DO SOME SITE EVALUATIONS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PRELIMINARY SITE DEVELOPMENT.
WELL SITE, UH, IDENTIFICATIONS, TEST WELLS, AND COST ESTIMATES.
UH, THIS WILL BE THE NEXT STEP TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS FEASIBILITY OF PUTTING GROUND WELLS AND BEING, UH, UH, ANOTHER WATER SOURCE.
UH, AS I'VE TOLD, UH, NUMEROUS, UH, INDIVIDUALS, THIS IS A LONG TERM PLAY.
THIS IS PROBABLY 10 YEARS BEFORE DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DEVELOP IT, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GET IT READY.
AND IF, IF COUNCIL DOES CHOOSE TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, THEN WE WOULD PUT MONEY.
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TREATMENT, CLEARWELL REHAB PROJECTS.CLEAR WELLS ARE WHERE WE STORE FINISH WATER THAT COMES OUT OF THE PLANT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE TOWN.
THERE'S TWO OF THEM AT THE PLANT.
THEY HOLD ABOUT 750,000 GALLONS.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE, RIGHT NOW COUNSEL PUT MONEY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN AND BID SPEC OF THIS, AND WE HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.
NOW, THOSE WERE ALL PROJECTS THAT WERE SUPPORTED BY WATER AND SEWER, THOSE BY USER FEES.
THESE HERE ARE BY TAX DOLLARS.
ALRIGHT, WE GOT TWO BRIDGE PROJECTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS EAST PROSPECT STREET BRIDGE.
THIS BRIDGE WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1937.
THE TOTAL COST FOR REPLACEMENT IS A LITTLE OVER $1.6 MILLION.
THIS PROJECT WAS PART OF THE VDOT REVENUE SHARING 50 50 PROGRAM.
WE SUBMITTED THAT IN THE FALL OF 24.
I HAVE GOTTEN PRELIMINARY NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE DID RECEIVE THE ADDITIONAL AWARDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
I HAVEN'T DID ALL THE FINAL PAPERWORK YET, BUT WE HOPE, BEING THAT THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE, WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR FOR EAST CROSS.
GOING TO OUR NEXT BRIDGE, EAST EIGHTH STREET.
UH, THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1965, OBVIOUSLY WITH A LOT OF FLOODING ISSUES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE DESIGN OF THAT BRIDGE, WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF FLOODING ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S THE FLOW, UH, TOTAL COST TO THIS REPLACEMENT IS JUST NORTH OF 2.7 MILLION.
WE ARE IN, WE'VE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THE FINAL DESIGN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING READY THIS NEXT MONTH TO GO OUT FOR BIDS FOR THIS.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION AS WELL NEXT YEAR.
SOUTH STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY BORN DURING MY FIRST TENURE DUE TO ALL THE PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAD ON SOUTH STREET.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA START TO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DESIGN THIS FALL.
THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED FOR THIS PROJECT.
A LOT OF THIS PROJECT IS ROAD DIETING, PROVIDING A MEDIUM AND PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BASICALLY BE PREVENTING A LOT OF LEFT TURNS.
IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT TURN IN ONLY.
THERE'S ACTUALLY ALSO, THEY'RE ADVOCATING ANOTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT ON THE BACK END OF WHERE MARTIN'S IS.
AND SO THEY WILL BE IN SYNC FOR TRAFFIC FLOW.
WE SHOULD, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGNS TO REVIEW WITH, WITH STAFF COUNCIL AND, AND FRIDA, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS FALL.
BUT THIS PROJECT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED, UM, THROUGH VIDO.
ALRIGHT, UH, WEST CRIER SIDEWALK PROJECT, UH, WE GOT FINAL NOTIFICATION THAT WE'VE GOT THE AWARD, UH, ALREADY WE FINISHED THE PAPERWORK LAST WEEK, SO THIS IS OFFICIALLY DONE.
WE'RE GONNA BE AWARDED TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO CONSTRUCT THIS, UH, WEST CRIER SIDEWALK PROJECT.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS ALSO FUNDED 80 BY 80 20 PROGRAMS. SO WE ARE GONNA GET TWO AND A HALF MILLION AND WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE OTHER, I THINK IT'S, UM, $648,000.
UH, THIS IS A FEDERAL PROJECT THROUGH VDOT.
UH, AND SO VDOT WILL ADMINISTER THIS PROJECT.
THEY WILL DO ALL THE LEGWORK ON THIS.
UM, AND WE ARE BASICALLY, BECAUSE IT IS A VDO PROJECT, WE ARE THREE YEARS FROM CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS NORTH SHADO AVENUE STREETLIGHT PROJECT.
THIS WAS ALSO BORN DURING MY FIRST TENURE BECAUSE OF THE PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES AND ACCIDENTS ON NORTH SHENANDOAH.
THAT WAS BEFORE SHEETS WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET TO GET THE SPEEDWAY.
UH, THIS IS A COST OF LITTLE OVER 1.5 MILLION.
WHAT IT IS, IS TO IMPROVE THE LIGHTING ON NORTH SHENANDOAH TO CONTINUE THE LIGHTING AS IT IS ON THE BRIDGE.
THAT BIG ONE RIGHT THERE IS GONNA CONTINUE ALL THE WAY DOWN NORTH SHENANDOAH.
WHAT THIS IS GONNA DO, BECAUSE OF THE OLD INCANDESCENT, UH, I CAN'T THINK OF THE THE NAME OF IT, BUT THE OLDER LIGHTS, THEY'RE NOT NOT DARK SKY COMPLIANT.
THEY DON'T RADIATE LIGHT ON THE PAVEMENT ONLY, THEY'RE JUST ILLUMINATE.
SO THIS IS GONNA PROVIDE, UM, A LOT MORE BENEFIT.
UH, BUT THE IDEA IS TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW AS WELL.
UH, WE ALSO GOT FINAL NOTIFICATION THROUGH VDOT.
WE HAVEN'T DID THE FINAL PAPERWORK, BUT WE ARE GONNA GET 50% OF THIS FUNDING, UH, TO START THIS PROJECT HOPEFULLY IN JANUARY.
NORTH COMMERCE AVENUE PAVING PROJECT.
THEY'RE GONNA FINISH THIS WEEK DOING THE STRIKING.
THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP IS THIS IS ANOTHER GRANT PROGRAM THAT STAFF WENT AFTER.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS AN 80 20 PROGRAM.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET NORTH COMMERCE PAVED FROM NORTH ROYAL TO FOURTH FOR 570 AND 80% OF THAT CAME FROM VDOT.
SO THIS IS UTILIZATION OF USING GRANT FUND MONEY TO HELP OUR CITIZENS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT, UH, AND THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER STREET PAVING PROJECTS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF.
THEY'RE SMALL SEGMENTS, BUT THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT IN SMALL SEGMENTS.
UH, BUT THIS IS JUST A LIST OF THOSE THAT ARE ON
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OUR RADAR RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PHYSICAL YEAR.AND THESE ARE A FEW OTHER SECONDARY PAVINGS AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE SOME NEW SIDEWALKS PLANNED ON VIRGINIA AVENUE, AS LONG AS, AS WELL AS SOME CURB AND GUTTER.
SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE TRY TO COORDINATE OUR PAVING WITH OUR STREETS, WITH OUR OTHER STREET PROJECTS AS WELL AS OUR WATER AND SEWER.
SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE GO DOWN AND DIG UP THE ROAD AND PUT NEW WATER PIPE IN, WE TRY TO CORRELATE WITH PAVING AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE'RE NOT DOING DOUBLE WORK.
ALRIGHT, THEN I WANNA TALK ABOUT JUST A FEW OTHER PROJECTS.
FIRST IS OUR NEW FLEET BUILDING.
UH, THIS IS ALSO UNDER GENERAL FUND.
UH, THIS PROJECT WAS ALSO BORN DURING MY FIRST TENURE, BUT NOW WE'RE IN CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 2.4 MILLION.
THE SECOND PHASE SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER OF 24TH.
THIS PROJECT WOULD'VE BEEN COMPLETED IN MAY IF WE WEREN'T WAITING, WAITING ON ELECTRICAL PANELS OUT OF THE ODDEST THING.
WE'RE WAITING ON SOME HIGH LEVEL, UH, HIGH END, NOT HIGH END, BUT HIGH VOLTAGE, UH, ELECTRIC PANELS THAT'S HOLDING ITS WHOLE PROJECT.
HUH UH, MCKAY SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT.
NOW I JUST TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE EXPLORING, UH, THE MCKAY SPRINGS.
UH, LET'S SEE HERE IF THIS WORKS.
THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW OWNS THIS, THIS PARCEL HERE.
THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY OWN THESE TWO JOINTLY.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS THE CORNER OF WINCHESTER AND RELIANCE ROAD.
SO HERE IS THE THREE ACRES THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO UTILIZE FOR MCKAY SPRINGS WATER SOURCE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE STILL HAVE THOSE THREE OTHER PARCELS.
UM, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY OF TRYING TO JOINTLY MARKET THIS PROPERTY.
WE HAVE NOT HAD MUCH PROGRESS ON IT YET, BUT STILL, UH, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY TO DEVELOP THOSE OTHER THREE PARCELS.
UH, THIS CAME OUT OF, UM, WHEN SADDLE CREST WAS IN DISCUSSION WITH COUNSEL AT, UM, LAST YEAR ONHAND SHORES ROAD.
AND DURING THAT TIME, THE TRANSPORTATION SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WORKS WITH COUNSEL IN THE COUNTY, UH, GOT WITH VDOT AND VDOT DID THIS TECHNICAL MEMO IN OCTOBER OF 23 WITH THE CONCEPT OF BUILDING EAST WEST CONNECTOR.
UM, IN THAT TECHNICAL MEMO, THEY GAVE A ESTIMATED COST OF CONSTRUCTION OF 30 MILLION TO BUILD THAT EAST WEST CONNECTOR.
SO, UH, JUST KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND.
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, 30 MILLION IS NOT A LOT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE NEXT PROJECT, A HAPPY CREEK ROAD, PHASE TWO PROJECT, THIS IS WHERE THE, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP ON MARSHALL GLEN 104 HOMES.
BUT JUST THAT HAPPY CREEK PHASE TWO, WHICH HAS BEEN ON THE RADAR EVEN SINCE MY FIRST TENURE.
THE NEW COST ESTIMATE IS $19.3 MILLION.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT STRETCH OF IMPROVEMENT FROM HAPPY CREEK PHASE TWO VERSUS THE EAST WEST CONNECTOR, 30 MILLION IS NOT THAT BAD OF A DEAL, I DON'T THINK.
BUT IN ANY CASE, THESE ARE JUST NUMBERS NOT TO LIVE BY, BUT NUMBERS TO MOVE FORWARD AND PLAN ON.
AND SO THERE'S A HAPPY CREEK PHASE TWO PROJECT.
WE'VE SUBMITTED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE SMART SCALE FUNDING PROGRAM.
WE SUBMITTED IT AGAIN ON AUGUST 1ST.
WE WILL FIND OUT IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR IF THIS PROJECT WILL BE A GO.
EVEN IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED THROUGH SMART SCALE, IT'S STILL CONSTRUCTION IS 20 30, 20 31.
MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.
SO WE TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH STREET PROJECT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN 15 AND NOW WE'RE JUST GETTING INTO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DESIGNS.
AND I KNOW THAT WAS FAST, BUT I, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THIS BOARD TO SEE SOME OF THE PROJECTS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE WILLING TO ANSWER.
UH, FIRST, UH, MCKAY SPRINGS, WHERE THAT WATER SOURCE, WHERE IS THAT? IS THAT UNDERGROUND? WELL, THE NATURAL SPRING ITSELF BUBBLES RIGHT UP THERE TO SPRING HOUSE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE THE SPRING ONLY PRODUCES 770,000 GALLONS, AND THERE'S SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS UTILIZING GROUND WALLS THERE AS A POTENTIAL TO, TO, TO TAP WHATEVER WE WANT.
IF WE WANT TO DO 2 MILLION, LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PRODUCING.
SO THAT IS THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, YOU MENTIONED HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE BEING FUNDED.
SO COULD YOU BREAK DOWN EXACTLY HOW THE TOWN, I GUESS KIND OF DIVS THAT UP? YOU SAID THERE'S A GENERAL AND THEN AN ENTERPRISE, AND THEN THE DIFFERENCES BECAUSE YOU, IN, IN ONE OF THEM, YOU, YOU SAID THAT THESE WERE, YOU KNOW, TAX FUNDED OR, OR, OR COMMUNITY FUNDED AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WASN'T.
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HAS $50 MILLION BUDGET, AND IN THAT BUDGET THERE'S TWO BUCKETS.THERE ARE USER FEES AND THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT BUCKETS IN THAT USER FEE, ELECTRIC WATER, SEWER, AND TRASH.
SO WATER AND SEWER, LIKE THOSE WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS ARE FUNDED BY THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE FOR WATER AND SEWER.
THE, THE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S 38 MILLION.
THE 12 MILLION ARE GENERAL TAX DOLLARS.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE YOUR STREETS, ROSE AND BRIDGES.
SO WHEN WE GO AFTER THESE GRANTS THAT ARE PROJECT SPECIFICS, SO LIKE THE BRIDGE PROJECTS WE GO OVER THAT WE, WE, WE SUBMIT IT, WE HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR, SEE IF WE GET THE 80 20.
BUT AS PART OF THAT SUBMITTAL COUNCIL HAS TO BE WILLING TO FRONT UP THAT 20% OR THAT 50%.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE COUNCIL GETS ENGAGED AND SAYS YES, IF WE WIN THAT, WE'RE GOING TO JUST LIKE THE, THE UM, WEST CHRYSLER SIDEWALK PROJECT, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US TWO AND A HALF, BUT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE 650 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS.
DID ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA? WE WERE DOING THAT MANY PROJECTS ALL AT ONCE, BUT I DID NOT JUST NOW I SHOULD PROBABLY BE LISTENING BETTER IN THE STAFF MEETINGS, BUT HOLY COW, THAT'S AMAZING.
I HAVE I ONE OR TWO ON THE SOUTH STREET PROJECT.
DID ANYBODY LOOK AT PUTTING, UM, ANOTHER ENTRANCE WAY INTO THERE? WAS THAT EVER RESEARCHED BY VO WAS EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING A BRIDGE GO ACROSS HAPPY CREEK ROAD THAT WE, YOU KNOW, EMPTY OUT ON REMOUNT ROAD, HOW PROBABLY REDIRECT 30 OR 40% OF THE TRAFFIC INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
SO, YOU KNOW, BDOT DID THE ANALYSIS.
THEY DID, UH, AS PART OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THE PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES.
THERE WERE FATALITIES ON THAT ROAD.
UH, THEY WERE LOOKING AT, AT, I THINK THEIR FIRST FOCUS WAS PEDESTRIAN AND THEN TRAFFIC FLOOD.
UH, I DON'T REMEMBER IF THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
I JUST KNOW THAT THIS WAS A VDOT INITIATED PROJECT.
THEY DID THE ANALYSIS, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
WHAT MOTIVATES THEM TO INITIATE IT? WHAT'S THE THE WELL, WE SUBMITTED IT, WE SUBMITTED AS A PROJECT BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME, AND I THINK IT WAS DURING, UM, MR. BILL SEA LOCK'S TIME, WE WERE HAVING SO MANY PEDESTRIAN INCIDENTS ON SOUTH STREET AS WELL AS NORTH, UH, NORTH SHENANDOAH.
SO, UM, THAT IS WHEN WE ENGAGED VDOT AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED HELP.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY CAME IN AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PERFECT, THIS IS WHAT SMART SCALE'S ALL ABOUT TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
AND SO, UM, SO YOU HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT PROJECT AND WE'RE GONNA KNOW MORE ONCE WE GET THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DESIGN AND THEN MAYBE WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON SOME OF THOSE VARIABLES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT.
AND ON THE EAST WEST CORRIDOR, UM, CONNECTOR.
THEY LOOKED AT WHAT'S THERE, THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS THIS THREE LANE, TWO DRIVE LANES.
WHAT THE CENTER LANE, WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, THEY SAID THIS WOULD BE ADEQUATELY TO HANDLE THAT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS EAST WEST CONNECTOR IS TO PROVIDE ANOTHER ACCESS FOR THOSE CITIZENS OUT THERE ON CHAND SHORES ROAD.
AND SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN IF THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T COME, BUT WE KNOW IT'S COMING, WE STILL NEED TO PROVIDE ANOTHER ACCESS.
NOW I WANT TO BE CANDID WITH EVERYBODY, THIS IS STILL CROSSING A RAILROAD TRACK.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS EAST WEST CONNECTOR IS NOT GONNA GET US AWAY FROM THE RAILROAD TRACK.
SO THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT A FLYOVER OUT THERE? NO, I KNOW THE FLYOVER WAS ON OUR OLD CIPS AND HONESTLY I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST ESTIMATE.
IS THE FLYOVER THE REASON PEOPLE SAY THE LEACH RUN PARKWAY IS NOT COMPLETED YET? NO.
I, I THOUGHT WHEN I WENT, UH, LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION ALL LAST MONTH AND THEN WHEN I STARTED DOWN THE ROAD AND LIKE, I GOTTA GET THIS INFORMATION.
AND SO IT WAS A GOOD, IT WAS A GOOD, UH, UH, JOURNEY FOR ME AS WELL.
SO, AND ACTUALLY I'M GONNA BE GIVING IT AGAIN TONIGHT, SO GLEN GETS TO HEAR IT TWICE.
I KNOW I SAW THE LIAISON COMMITTEE WHERE THE TOWN WANT, UH, THE COUNTY WANTED TO PURCHASE THE CO LOT RIGHT FROM US FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, FROM THE WELLS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN THE, UH, FOR MCKAY SPRINGS.
WE CO-OWN BEHIND IT WITH THE COUNTY.
WE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW I'M PUTTING A STAKE IN THE GROUND FOR THAT ONE.
NOW I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT BUYING EACH OTHER OUT.
AND I THINK THE LAST DISCUSSION WE HAD WAS
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WE WERE GOING PUT, UM, WE WERE WORK COLLABORATIVE AND TRYING TO GET THIS OFF.SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE WENT FROM 27 RESPONDENTS TO 31
UM, I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I, I'VE, I'VE GRABBED THE LONG FORM RESPONSES BECAUSE MOST OF THE SURVEY WAS QUALITATIVE, NOT QUANTITATIVE.
UM, AND I, I, I WANNA COMPILE THEM AND, AND GIVE THEM TO YOU TO BE ABLE TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT AND READ ON YOUR OWN.
UM, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THAT READY FOR YOU TODAY.
I CAN GO OVER SOME OF THE, UM, QUANTITATIVE QUESTIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHERE, WHERE DO FOLKS LIVE IF THIS REALLY 50 50 ON IN THE TOWN VERSUS IN THE COUNTY, UM, OWNING YOUR LOCATION.
AGAIN, IT WAS 50 50 ON WHETHER THEY DID OR THEY RENTED, UM, 60% OF THE RESPONDENTS OWNED MORE THAN ONE BUSINESS.
UM, UH, LOOKS LIKE A GOOD CHUNK OF FOLKS SKIPPED OVER THE QUESTION ON DO YOU OWN VACANT PROPERTY? UM, VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? UM, THERE WAS, THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT REALLY BUBBLED UP TO ME.
UM, WHEN WE ASKED THE QUESTION OF WHY THEY CHOSE FRONT ROYAL, UM, I THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT HELD A LOT OF VALUE BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THE ANSWER WAS 'CAUSE THEY LIKED IT HERE.
NOT JUST BECAUSE, WELL, I LANDED HERE AND THIS IS WHERE I PUT MY BUSINESS.
UM, SO AS A, YOU KNOW, TEAM TOWN THAT MADE ME FEEL GOOD.
UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THEY REALLY KIND OF RAN THE GAMBIT FROM MORE SIDEWALKS AND OF COURSE PARKING SUGGESTIONS, UM, TO THINGS LIKE, UM, WHAT ELSE? SHOOT, LOOKING FOR INCREASING OUR BRAND RECOGNITION, WHICH, OKAY.
UM, AS A, AS A MARKETER, I CAN SEE THE VALUE IN THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS A WIDE VARIETY FOR SURE.
SO I, I WANTED TO, INSTEAD OF FLUBBING IT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO PUT ALL OF THOSE DETAILED RESPONSES INTO A REPORT, GIVE IT TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE GROUP FEELS LIKE ABOUT CONTINUING TO KEEP THE SURVEY OPEN.
DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S VALUE IN CONTINUING TO KEEP THE SURVEY OPEN? AND IF SO, WHAT'S A GOOD, WHAT'S A GOOD METRIC FOR SUCCESS ON CONTINUING TO KEEP IT OPEN? DAVID, YOU'VE NODDED YOUR HEAD SINCE.
I JUST THINK THAT, I MEAN, WE JUST SHOULD CONTINUE TO, TO COLLECT THE DATA.
I, I MISSED THE LAST MEETING AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION IN READING THE MINUTES IN SORT OF, UH, WAYS TO BROADEN THE EFFORT OR WHATEVER.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I DIDN'T RECALL SEEING, BUT I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.
IN THE NEWSLETTER THAT COMES OUT IN THE UTILITY BILLS, IS THE SURVEY MENTIONED IN THAT NO, THAT ONLY COMES OUT ONCE A QUARTER.
UM, WE DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE MOST RECENT ONE, SO IT WOULDN'T GO OUT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER TWO MONTHS.
UM, WE DID NOT, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY.
I MEAN, I, I THINK THE DATA IS IMPORTANT AND I DON'T, I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY COSTING US ANYTHING RIGHT.
ON SURVEY MON MONKEY TO KEEP IT OPEN.
UM, I'M STILL HANDING OUT THE CARTS, TELLS ME THAT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING.
UM, SO I NEED TO KIND OF EGG 'EM ON.
UH, SO MAYBE IT'S WORTH A SECOND VISIT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT TAKES TIME, BUT WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED YOUR FEEDBACK.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT OPEN IF WE CAN.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY GETS THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE LITTLE MAIL, I MEAN, I READ, I READ THEM BECAUSE I, I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT GIVES ME KIND OF THE UPCOMING EVENTS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE TOWN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THAT I, I WOULD NORMALLY JUST MISS.
SO, UH, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY ALSO INCLUDING THAT QR CODE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT I THOUGHT OF, UM, JUST, JUST AS I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
AND HILLARY'S THE ONE WHO MAKES THAT.
SO KUDOS TO HILLARY FOR DOING THAT.
UM, YOUR QR CODE HAS BEEN SCANNED 16 TIMES SINCE WE CREATED IT, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TELLS YOU, BUT
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THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE AT.UM, WE COULD, WE MAY BE ABLE TO MEASURE THE CLICK THROUGHS ON OUR TOWN WEBSITE TO THE SURVEY.
IT'S EASIER TO FILL THE SURVEY OUT ON THE WEBSITE THAN ON THE PHONE.
SO YEAH, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT NO MATTER WHAT NEXT MONTH WE REVIEW WHAT WE HAVE.
JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LOOK DOWN MAIN STREET FOR A WEEK AND SAY, OH, WELL IT DIDN'T GIVE US A RESULT ON SURVEY.
WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF YOUR RESPONDENTS ARE MAIN STREET VISIT OWNERS.
HIGH PERCENTAGE, VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE.
SO THIS, THIS SECTION'S BEEN COVERED.
WELL, IT'S SOME OF THE OTHER SHOPPING CLASSES THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING FROM AS MUCH.
SO, UM, AND VERY FEW SERVICE BASED BUSINESSES, WHICH IS NOT TERRIBLY SURPRISING.
UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, I'M, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO, WE'RE CERTAINLY, IT'S NO TROUBLE TO KEEP IT OPEN AND CONTINUE TO, TO CULTIVATE RESPONSES.
UM, I'LL COMPILE ALL OF THE FEEDBACK, COMMENT RESPONSES, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS AGAIN, THAT 31 AND, AND GET THAT OUT TO YOU.
UM, I PROMISE TO HAVE THAT TO YOU BY THE END OF THIS WEEK AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE AND I'LL JUST KEEP YOU UPDATED ON WHAT ELSE COMES IN.
IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH.
UM, I WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND TALK ABOUT OUR GOALS AND POSSIBLY FUTURE DIRECTION.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST THREE MONTHS OR SO WORKING ON EXISTING BUSINESSES WITH THE SURVEY, TRYING TO GET SOME INPUT, UH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
WE DID THE TOURS OF BOTH FACILITIES.
I THINK THAT REALLY OPENED OUR EYES AND, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE DO WITH THAT RIGHT YET.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT AS WE REVIEW THE GOALS, UM, I'VE HAD, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS I'VE HAD AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH A VENDOR, UM, THAT COULD HELP US IN OUR, UM, ASSET DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE BUSINESSES.
UM, THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP HELP US DEVELOP A RETAIL STRATEGY PLAN.
AND IT'S JUST NOT HELPING US CREATE A PLAN.
THEY WILL HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR ASSETS ARE HERE IN TOWN AND WHAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE.
THEY WILL FIND OUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE IN THE RETAIL SIDE, BE IT A HOTEL, UM, GROCERY STORE, AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND MARKET THIS STUFF FOR US.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY OUR NEXT STEP IS TO GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE WORKING FOR US TO ATTRACT THESE INDUSTRIES WE WANNA BRING TO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO I'VE HAD THERE, THERE'S MULTIPLE FIRMS OUT THERE.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A FIRM THAT, THAT Y'ALL MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE INTERACTED WITH A COUPLE YEARS AGO CALLED RETAIL STRATEGIES.
THERE ARE OTHER FIRMS OUT THERE, BUT THEY PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF SERVICE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY OUR NEXT STEP FORWARD, HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN HERE AND HELP US PROFESSIONALLY LOOK AT WHAT OUR ASSETS ARE, WHAT WE CAN GO AFTER, FIND OUT WHAT OUR APPETITE IS, AND THEN SEND 'EM ON THE CHARGE.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MAYBE THAT COMPANY THAT Y'ALL HAVE INTERACTED WITH, OR ANOTHER COMPANY, I'D LIKE TO GET THEM IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT YOU CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY CAN PROVIDE AND WHAT VALUE THEY BRING TO THE TOWN AND HOW THAT COULD MOVE US FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
I BELIEVE THIS IS THE KEY, THE NEXT STEP, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT OUR OTHER GOALS, I, I THINK THAT NO END, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH LIZZIE ABOUT IS POTENTIALLY HAVING A, UH, A WEB PRESENCE, A WEBPAGE FOR FREEDOM.
YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF GOES IN WITH MARKETING WHAT WE HAVE.
SO THESE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT, THAT, UNLESS I HEAR DIFFERENT FROM THE BOARD, THESE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT QUARTER.
UM, BUT I WILL BE QUIET AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS OF WHAT I SAID.
ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP MOVE US FORWARD.
I MEAN, UM, I WOULD ASSUME SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD REQUIRE FUNDING.
WE, WE STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE HAVE FUNDING WISE.
WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR ALMOST 10 MONTHS.
WE DON'T HAVE AT, AT THIS POINT FRIDA DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY MONEY ALLOCATED, BUT THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE FOR FRIDA.
SO I THINK THAT, AND AND AT THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, UNTIL WE GET A BANK ACCOUNT, IF THERE ARE PROJECTS LIKE THIS, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A RETAIL STRATEGY PLAN, THERE'S MONEY THAT WE CAN GET ALLOCATED, WE CAN GET MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET THE BOARD ALL ON BOARD WITH IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
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THE, I HAVE ONE PRELIMINARY QUOTE.I MEAN, RETAIL STRATEGIES GAVE US A QUOTE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND IT'S ABOUT 15% HIGHER THAN THE LAST ONE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, IT'S MANAGEABLE.
WASN'T THERE AN ORGANIZATION ALREADY PUT IN PLACE WHEN WE WERE DOING THE, THE 30 YEAR PLAN THAT WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND THEY, IT WAS OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT PRESENTATION.
AND WE HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE COMPARABLE, THAT WE ALREADY HAD SOMEBODY HERE WORKING ON THE TOURISM AND THAT, THAT THAT ORGANIZATION WAS COMPARABLE TO THE RETAIL STRATEGIES AND THAT WE WERE, WE WERE, AT THAT TIME, WE WERE CONCERNED OF OVERLAP.
BECAUSE WE WERE, WE'D BE PAYING FOR THE SAME THING TWICE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT ORGANIZATION.
WELL, THERE WAS THAT AND THEN, I MEAN, I, I WASN'T A FAN OF, OF THAT GROUP, UH, SOLELY BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLY GONNA INVEST ONE DAY HERE, ONE PERSON AND ONE DAY.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SIX OF US, FIVE OF US, AND WE CAN'T DO IT IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN 10 MONTHS.
SO HOW CAN THEY DO THAT ONE DAY? UM, THAT WAS SORT OF ONE OF MY BIGGEST ISSUES WITH THAT GROUP.
AND THE OTHER WAS THE PORTFOLIO THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH.
WE ALREADY HAVE PROBABLY 80 OR 90% OF THOSE BUSINESSES HERE.
SO, UM, AND THEN I, I JUST HAVING BEEN AN, YOU KNOW, OR BEING AN ENTREPRENEUR MYSELF, IT'S SORT OF LIKE, I THINK THIS KIND OF, A LOT OF IT COMES ORGANICALLY.
I MEAN I I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE OR WHAT IS OUT THERE.
UM, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, AGAIN THROUGH THE SURVEY AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE WEBSITE TOO, IT, IT, I'M, I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE AREN'T ANXIOUS.
LIKE IF I WERE SITTING ON A, I MEAN, I AM SITTING ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT IF I WERE SITTING ON, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OR, OR SOMETHING THAT WAS YEAH.
UM,
YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? UH, MAKE THAT CONNECTION AND, AND SO I'M, I'M, UH, I GUESS A LITTLE SURPRISE AT AT AT THAT AND, AND YOU KNOW, UM, PART OF IT MAY JUST BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ISSUES OR, OR COMPLICATIONS THAT I'M UNAWARE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVING, UM, SO LET ME BE CLEAR THAT MY IDEA WOULD BE TO GET A VENDOR HERE NEXT MONTH FOR THAT WE COULD START THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT SCOPE IS.
NOW RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE PROCUREMENT RULES, WHICH MEANS THAT ONCE WE DECIDE OUR SCOPE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO FOR AN RFV.
AND SO THAT IS WHERE THESE, THAT IS WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE OUR SCOPE DOWN.
AND, BUT I THINK IT, IT IS THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP OF LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN BRING TO THIS COMMUNITY.
I THINK IT SOUNDS EXCITING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, I I, THEM COME, I MEAN THE, THEY ALREADY DID A PRESENTATION.
WE WERE REALLY CLOSE TO TRYING TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND THEN THINGS KIND OF, THE WHEELS FELL OFF, BUT SO I, THEY'RE THE LOGICAL GROUP TO AT LEAST BRING BACK AND, AND RIGHT.
RESTART THE CONVERSATION AND THEN MAYBE WE END UP WITH TWO OR THREE OTHER, YOU KNOW, OFFERS.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, FROM AN RFP, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AN RFP OUT ON THE STREET UNLESS SOMEBODY'S ALREADY DID AN RFP IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO THAT HAS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD, HAS BENEFITED THE TOWN IN OTHER AREAS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN, UH, AVAILABLE, BUT, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT NEXT MONTH WOULD BE THE START OF THE CONVERSATION IF WE HAD TO GO OUT FOR RFPS.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY 60 DAYS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE START THAT CONVERSATION AS SOON AS WE CAN.
THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE ORGANIZATION THAT COMPARED US TO YORK.
WHEN WE DID THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO, FRANK.
I CAN ONLY GO THIS WAY WITH MY LIFE.
SO I'M LIKE, I'M SORRY, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I WANNA, I WANNA, YOU'RE LIKE MY ONLY VALIDATING PERSON RIGHT NOW.
I WANNA AFFIRM YOUR STATEMENT, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE DOING.
UM, BUT UH, ANYWAY, I, I, WHAT'S THE BOARD'S I I THINK NEVER HURTS TO, TO BE EDUCATED.
AND I THINK THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.
I, UM, I WAS, I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I'VE HEARD.
UH, NOW CAN THEY BACK THOSE WORDS UP? I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'LL SEE.
UM, I THINK THAT WHAT, FOR ME, I NEED TO SEE SOME CASE STUDIES.
I NEED TO SEE WHERE THEY'VE, WHERE PEOPLE PUT THIS INTO ACTION, WHAT THE RESULTS WERE.
'CAUSE IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD, BUT UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN ACTUALLY PUT IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.
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BETH, GOOD ONE.IT WAS THE ORIGINAL CAME LADY.
WE CAN'T REMEMBER HER, SO YOU BETTER PRETEND TO REMEMBER HER.
I'M SURE I WAS THE WHITE HAIRED GENTLEMAN.
UM, SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS OPEN DISCUSSION.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT? I WAS GONNA ASK JOE, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE TOWN BUDGET, AND I MEAN, I MAY BE LOOKING AT THINGS WRONG, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A FRIDA ALLOCATION LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT NEVER GOT USED.
CAN YOU CHECK INTO THAT? BECAUSE YEAH, I CAN.
UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SUM OF $50,000 JUST KIND OF SITTING THERE AND RIGHT.
I, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ROLLED 'EM OVER, SO LET ME CHECK.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE LOST THAT MONEY AT ALL.
THAT'S WHY I SAY THERE'S MONEY TO BE AVAILABLE.
WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR PLAN OF ACTION IS AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
UH, I GUESS OUR NEXT MEETING, IT FALLS ON A HOLIDAY AND, UH, SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE DATE.
UM, JOE, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH, SO, UM, OUR NORMAL MEET DATE IS FIRST MONDAY OF THE MONTH, WHICH, UH, SEPTEMBER 2ND IS LABOR DAY.
SO WE BASICALLY HAVE TWO CHOICES.
WE CAN HAVE IT THE FOLLOWING DAY, WHICH WOULD BE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD, OR WE CAN ROLL IT TO THE SECOND MONDAY.
IT'S AT THE BOARD'S PLEASURE, UH, ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
RECOGNIZING THAT I'M GONNA TRY TO GET SOMEBODY HERE AT THIS MEETING, UM, TO, TO START THE PROCESS OF TALKING ABOUT A RETAIL STRATEGY PLAN.
I WON'T, I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE, UH, TUESDAY.
TUESDAY I'M NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT EITHER.
SO MAYBE MONDAY THE NIGHT I'M OPEN.
SIMPLE WORK BETTER, HUH? I CAN DO THE NIGHT THAT WORK.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT.
UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY TO SAYING AYE.