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GOING TO CALL[Town Council Work Session on June 10, 2024.]
THE, UH, FRONT ONE TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR WORK SESSION FOR MONDAY, JUNE 10TH TO ORDER ESPECIALLY.CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? MAYOR COCKRELL HERE.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL FORM 'CAUSE WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS HERE.
SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO OF THE PRESENTATION BY LEE SLASH SCHWARTZ OF THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE OF FRONT ROYAL.
HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.
YEAH, WE WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, REFRESH PEOPLE'S MEMORY OF THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.
WE USED TO, I GUESS, BRIEF THE TOWN COUNCIL, UM, REGULARLY, BUT WHEN COVID HIT, WE, UM, HAD ELAPSE IN SOME OF THAT.
SO WE WANTED TO GET BACK ON, ON TRACK AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE, GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY, UM, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY AND WHAT HELP WE NEED FROM THE TOWN.
SO REALLY IT STARTED AS LOOKING AT, UH, OTHER COMMUNITIES AND, UH, THEIR TREE PLANTING PROGRAMS AND HOW THAT HAD, UH, INCREASED, UM, THE, THE CANOPY COVER IN TOWN.
AND ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO IT, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON HERE IN A MINUTE.
UM, SO REALLY OUR MISSION IS TO WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND WITH THE TOWN AND, AND WITH THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE, UH, THE BEAU, THE BEAUTIFICATION TO BEAUTIFY THE TOWN AND, UH, COMMUNITY PROPERTIES.
AND, UM, WE'VE, OUR PURPOSE IS TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR PUBLIC PROPERTY ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS.
AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THING WE DID, WAS LOOKING AT THE MAJOR CORRIDORS IN TOWN AND PLANTING TREES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S REALLY EVOLVED SINCE THEN.
UM, AND WE'VE WORKED REALLY CLOSE WITH THE TOWN AND YOUR HORTICULTURE PLAN AND ALSO WORKING WITH, UH, THE ROYAL SHENANDOAH GREENWAY AND INCREASING THE COUNTY COVER.
A BRIEF HISTORY, ABOUT 31 YEARS AGO, THE GARDA CLUB OF WARREN COUNTY, UM, SAW HOW, UH, NEW TREES AND AREAS IMPACTED THE COMMUNITIES, AND THEY WANTED TO DO THE SAME THING WITHIN FRONT ROYAL.
SO, UM, THEY ENLISTED THE HELP OF OTHER GARDEN CLUBS AND THERE WERE THREE IN THE AREA AT THE TIME, BESIDES THE GARDEN CLUB OF WARREN COUNTY, WHICH TODAY THERE'S ONLY THE ONE LEFT, THE GARDEN CLUB OF WARREN COUNTY.
AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF A SOCIAL GROUP NOW.
UM, AND THEN WE WORKED WITH THE TOWN AND GOT THE TOWN COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO DO MANY PROJECTS, WHICH, UH, I'LL TOUCH ON IN A MINUTE.
SO JUST, WE TALKED ABOUT BENEFITS OF TREES.
SO IT HELPS REMOVE POLLUTION FROM THE AIR AND WATERWAYS.
IT REDUCES ENERGY COSTS, IT HELPS WITH EROSION ON OUR STREAMS. AND LIKE WE WITNESSED THAT ON HAPPY CREEK JUST RECENTLY, WHERE WE WENT IN AND PLANTED MORE TREES.
UM, AGAIN, IT HELPS WITH REDUCING TEMPERATURES, UH, TOURISM, UH, PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY SEE ATTRACTIVE AREAS, UM, PRIDE IN PEOPLE'S COMMUNITIES.
AND ALSO WE HELPED WITH GETTING THE STATUS OF TREE CITY, USA.
SO WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED? SO OVER THE LAST 31 YEARS, WE INVESTED ABOUT $270,000 IN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
UM, WE GOT A NUMBER OF GRANTS FROM DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.
WE DID A, A LARGE TREE PLANTING ALONG VIRGINIA AVENUE, ROYAL AVENUE FROM FIRST STREET TO SIXTH STREET.
UH, WE PLANTED TREES ALONG COMMERCE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HELPED SET UP THE TREE STEWARDS FOR WARREN COUNTY TREE STEWARDS.
WE GOT A GRANT TO DO THAT, WORKING WITH THE TOWN AND MASTER GARDENS.
AND, UH, WE PLANTED WELL OVER A THOUSAND TREES AND LOT OF SHRUBS, FLOWERS, AND PLANTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THIS JUST IS A LIST OF, OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
UM, THE MAIN QUARTER IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE VIRGINIA TECH.
THE STUDENTS AT VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA TECH PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT WE UTILIZE TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH THE TYPES OF TREES AND WHERE TO PLANT THEM.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE TOWN, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE
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OF THE TREES AND, UH, FERTILIZING AND PRUNING, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.UH, WE PURCHASE THE, A LOT OF THE PARK BENCHES, THE KIOSKS.
AND, UM, WE WORKED WITH THE TOWN WITH THE HANGING BASKETS AND THE FLOWERS.
INITIALLY, UH, THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, UH, PURCHASED THE BASKETS AND THE FLOWERS.
AND THEN OVER TIME IT'S BECOME A VERY, UH, COST SHARING TYPE OF, UH, THE PROGRAM.
SO THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY COST SHARED ON THE FLOWERS.
NORMALLY WE FOOTED FOOT THE BILL FOR ALL THE FLOWERS.
I'M HOPING TO DO THAT, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
AND THIS JUST COVERS SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL PLANTING THAT WE HAVE DONE.
UM, WE FEEL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IN THE FUTURE.
THERE'S SOME OF THE TREES HAVE DIED AND THERE'S AREAS THAT PROBABLY COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, COVERAGE.
ALSO, THE AREA FROM, WHERE WAS IT? UH, WESTMINSTER DRIVE TO COMMERCE ALONG THAT STRETCH.
UH, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT PROBABLY NEEDS FOCUSING ON IN THE FUTURE.
WE ALSO WORK WITH THE HERITAGE SOCIETY AND WE DID A LAND LANDSCAPING PLAN A WHILE BACK.
AND, UM, WE STILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM.
UH, WE PROVIDE SOME FUNDING FOR THEM TO KEEP THEIR GARDENS.
AND THERE'S ALSO A MEMORIAL TREE PROGRAM WITHIN THE TOWN.
UH, IT'S, UH, ADMINISTERED BY THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.
UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, REMEMBER I THINK NOW THE TOWN'S, IT'S $250, I THINK, PER TREE.
IT WAS A HUNDRED WHEN WE STARTED.
I THINK WHEN I TALKED TO, UM, JIM OSBORNE.
UH, THE PRICE NOW IS GONNA BE ABOUT TWO 50.
AND WE RECEIVE THESE FROM CITIZENS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, AND, UH, BUSINESSES.
AND IT'S EITHER TO HONOR SOMEONE OR IF SOMEONE PASSED HONOR NOVEMBER.
AND CURRENTLY WE'VE BEEN KEEPING ALL THEIR CERTIFICATES AT THE, UH, UH, HERITAGE SOCIETY.
BUT WE HAVE A NEW WEBSITE, SO WE'RE GONNA START KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYTHING ON THE WEBSITE.
AND SO THIS YEAR, PROBABLY FROM OCTOBER TILL TODAY, WE RECEIVED ABOUT 15 MEMORIAL TREE REQUESTS.
SO WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS? SO, UM, IN 2022, WE PURCHASED THE CREPE MYRTLES THAT WERE PLANTED ALONG THE GREENWAY BY TRUIST BANK AND, UH, RURAL KING AND THE HANGING BASKETS, THE FLOWERS.
AND THEN IN 2023, AGAIN, WE PURCHASED THE FLOWERS AND WE PLANTED 20 TREES ALONG THE GREENWAY BY SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THEN THIS YEAR, LIKE I SAID, WE DID COST SHARING ON THE FLOWERS AND, UM, WE PLANTED PAID FOR 20 MORE TREES ALONG THE GREEN ONE.
AND THAT WAS A REAL NICE EFFORT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, UM, THE BEAUTIFICATION, THE TREE STEWARDS AND THE TOWN WORKING TOGETHER TO DO THAT.
SO NEW INITIATIVES THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY, UM, GOT SOME SPONSORS TO SPONSOR THE HANGING BASKETS.
SO THIS WAS THE WAY WE FUNDED THE FLOWERS.
AND WE HAD 15 BUSINESSES AND A COUPLE, UM, PRIVATE CITIZENS SPONSOR THE FLOWER BASKETS.
AND I'M GETTING MORE REQUESTS AS WE'RE STANDING HERE.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE COULD GET PEOPLE TO SPONSOR MOST OF THE BASKETS AND THAT SHOULD COVER ALL THE COSTS FOR THE FLOWERS NEXT YEAR.
UM, THIS YEAR WE'RE HAVING OUR FIRST ANNUAL GARDEN CHALLENGE AND TOUR.
AND ACTUALLY IT'S HA HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK.
UM, ON FRIDAY WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE JUDGING.
AND ON SATURDAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TOUR OF THE GARDENS.
WE HAD 13 PEOPLE SUBMIT APPLICATIONS, WHICH I WAS REALLY HAPPY BECAUSE AT FIRST WE ONLY HAD TWO.
SO I EXTENDED THE DUE DATE FOR THE APPLICATIONS.
AND NOW WE HAVE 13 AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE TOUR AND THE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SELECT THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE.
AND WE HAVE, UM, UH, MASTER GARDENERS AND ONE OF THE GARDEN CLUBS, WARREN GARDEN CLUB IN WARREN COUNTY.
THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THE JUDGING.
IS THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU ALL ARE SPONSORING? 'CAUSE THERE USED TO BE GARDEN CLUB TOURS, BUT THAT MUST BE WELL, THAT THE, WELL, THAT'S THE HISTORICAL GARDEN.
THAT'S THE GARDEN CLUB OF VIRGINIA.
AND THAT'S LIKE THESE REALLY, YOU KNOW.
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VOLUNTEERED TO OPEN UP THEIR GARDENS TO THE COMMUNITY.SO THIS IS THE SECRET GARDEN? YES.
UM, WE'RE GONNA MEET, UM, AT CLOUD STREET AT THE FIRST LOCATION.
AND AT MAPS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO AROUND, VIEW THE GARDENS AND VOTE FOR THEIR CHOICE.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA ALSO AWARD FOR SECOND AND THIRD PLACE.
AND INITIALLY WE WERE THINKING OF DOING IT AT, AT, UH, CHRISTMAS IN JULY, BUT WE MAY DO IT SOONER.
IT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE CAN KATHY COVER IN TOWN, UM, AND, UH, CONTINUE WITH THE HANGING BASKETS.
AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE AREAS LIKE COMMERCE AVENUE AND MAYBE ALONG, UM, WHAT'S THE ROAD THAT LEADS OUT TOWN BY RIGHT AID OR BY
THAT WAY I THINK THAT A LITTLE WORK ALSO.
SO OUR ANNUAL EVENTS, UM, WE HAVE A LUNCHEON IN THE FALL, AND THAT'S WHERE WE BRING IN SPEAKERS THAT ON TOPICS RELATED TO THE URBAN FOREST, TO, TO EDUCATE THE, THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE ALSO, UH, USE THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT TO AWARD SCHOLARSHIPS.
WE GIVE, UH, TWO SCHOLARSHIPS A YEAR TO EACH OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS, UM, FOR A SENIOR.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT, SO SHE'S GETTING 2000 AND WOW.
SO IT'S IN A ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, TYPE OF STUDY AREA.
AND THEN OUR BIGGEST FUNDRAISER IS THE, UM, GREEN CELEBRATION.
AND WE HAVE THAT, IT USED TO BE, UH, EVERY OTHER YEAR.
UH, RECENTLY WE STARTED HAVING IT EVERY YEAR.
AND LAST YEAR WE HAD IT AT TANGLEWOOD.
UM, THIS YEAR'S GONNA BE OUT IN BENTONVILLE IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THAT'S REALLY OUR BIGGEST FUNDRAISER.
AND UH, NORMALLY WE MAKE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15,000 DURING THAT, DURING THAT, UH, ACTIVITY.
SO WE'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO, TO DONATE.
SO WE WORK WITH THE TOWN MOSTLY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, TREE STEWARDS, THE NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, UH, THE MASTER GARDENERS AND THE GARDEN CLUB.
AND THEN WE REACH OUT TO OTHERS AS APPROPRIATE, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT WE'RE DOING.
UM, THIS IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UM, I'M THE PRESIDENT, BE ANDREA IS OUR VICE PRESIDENT.
DID YOU GET DRUG INTO THAT? HE GOT DRUG INTO THAT.
THE MEMORIAL TREE PROGRAM, I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE THE PERSON THAT WAS DOING IT, SHE, UH, SHE'S NO LONGER DOING IT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO, UH, FILL THAT POSITION.
BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, JOIN OUR COMMITTEE.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND, UH, WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME NEW PEOPLE TO COME JOIN US.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO CONTINUE TO GET THE SAME SUPPORT THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING OVER THE YEARS.
HELP WITH, UH, PLANTING, HELP WITH MAINTAINING, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT IN THE GROUND.
AND, UH, CONTINUE TO, UH, MAINTAIN OUR US UH, STATUS AS A TREE CITY, USA AND, UH, MAINTAIN THE CANADA COVER.
WHEN TREES ARE, ARE TAKEN DOWN, WE BASICALLY PLANT NEW ONES.
AND THEN BASICALLY THIS, WE SHOULD
JUST REMEMBER
ANY QUESTIONS? I, I WANTED TO ASK, UM, ABOUT TREES.
WHEN YOU GUYS ARE PLANTING TREES, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY PLANTING SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN THE LIKE 800 TREES WE'VE GIVEN AWAY THIS IN THE LAST YEAR.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONES ALONG BY TRUIST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONES OVER BY THE SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD SIZED TREES.
RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT THE LITTLE SAPLINGS.
AND THEY'RE ALL NATIVE SPECIES.
WELL, THE ONES, THE CRE MYRTLES ARE NOT NATIVE.
THAT WASN'T, BUT THEY WANTED FLOWERING TREES AND THE TOWN ARBORIST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AGREED.
OKAY, WE'LL PLANT THE CREPE MYRTLES.
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UH, THE ONES WE DID ALONG SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, THE GREENWAY, THEY'RE ALL NATIVES.SO WE TRIED TO DO NATIVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
EVEN THE, EVEN THE SHRUBS THAT WE PLANT AND THE PERENNIALS THAT WE PLANT, WE TRY TO DO NATIVES.
IF YOU NEED ANY WALNUTS, UH,
SO AGAIN, UH, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR SUPPORTING US.
UH, IT'S BEEN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES.
I KNOW THE HANGING FLOWER BASKETS, WHEN WE HAD OUR DROUGHT LAST YEAR, I WAS GETTING PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME ASKING THEY WOULD DRIVE THROUGH TOWN AND REALIZE THEY WEREN'T THERE.
SO THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S APPRECIATED, NOT JUST BY LOCALS, BUT WELL HOPE, HOPEFULLY WITH THESE NEW BASKETS.
I KNOW THEY'RE SELF WATERING AND, AND I KNOW JOHN WAS OUT THERE LIKE EVERY DAY WATERING THE OLD ONES.
AND I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE COULD, DOES IT THREE TIMES.
SO YEAH, WITH THE NEW, UH, SELF WATERING BASKETS, THEY'RE GONNA REDUCE OUR MANPOWER BY HALF.
SO IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
SO WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT, UM, FUNDING OR, OR, I'M JUST CURIOUS, I DON'T HAVE THE A NUMBER MEMORIZED, BUT DO WE HAVE A PARTICULAR ITEM IN THE BUDGET THAT'S ABOUT SUPPORTING THAT? OR IS IT THROUGH OUR HORTICULTURE BUDGET? IT'S THROUGH A HORTICULTURE IN KIND HELP DOING THE BASKETS, GETTING THEM INSTALLED.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE MORE OF A FACILITATOR LABOR.
YEAH, WE, I MEAN THEY'VE BEEN WONDERFUL AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HELPING US OUT.
I MEAN, EVEN WITH THE PLANTINGS, THE TOWN WENT OUT THERE, DUG THE HOLES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILY COULD JUST GO IN THERE, FLOP 'EM IN, PUT THE DIRT IN AND ALL.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING IS, UM, I THINK I, I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE COUNTY WE HAD, UH, A LOT OF BULBS WERE GIVEN TO US BY THE GARDEN CLUB OF VIRGINIA.
IT WAS, IT WAS THE COLDEST DAY IN LIKE MARCH.
AND THEY CAME OUT AND DUG THE HOLES AND WE PLANTED THE BULBS.
AND UH, SO WE WORK WITH BOTH THE TOWN AND, AND THE COUNTY.
I KNOW OUR ENTRANCE WAY, THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT.
SO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.
IT IS BEEN AROUND FOR, LIKE I SAID, OVER 30 YEARS.
AND, UH, THERE'S STILL SOME MEMBERS, UH, THAT STARTED ORIGINALS THAT STILL ARE SUPPORTING US.
I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, WHEN ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS SERVED ON COUNCIL.
AND I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THAT LIKE THEY COULD, THAT YOU ALL COULD TAKE A REALLY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TURN IT INTO LIKE, YOU KNOW, A WONDERFUL, UH, DISPLAY.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING TOO, BECAUSE I, THIS IS MY, I'VE BEEN ON HERE SINCE 2020 AND THIS IS THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT I'VE SEEN.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT.
'CAUSE IT ALSO GIVES THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT WONDERFUL THINGS YOU'RE DOING.
AND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO JOIN, I KNOW WE STRUGGLE TO GET PEOPLE TO JOIN, JOIN OUR COMMITTEES, BUT MAYBE YOURS IS, MAYBE YOURS IS MORE INTERESTING TO SOME FOLKS
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE AN, AN INTEREST IN THIS.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A FEW NEW MEMBERS, BUT WE STILL NEED MORE.
UM, THE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE, UH, LORRAINE
SHE WAS AT HER BIRTHDAY PARTY.
AND SHE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
WILL WE, WILL WE USE LA BARCA? SHE ACTUALLY MOVED UP NORTH OF WINCHESTER.
SHE STARTED THIS AND UH, SHE STILL HELPS OUT.
AND FRED'S BEEN INVOLVED A LONG TIME.
I DON'T, THAT WAS BEFORE ME MAYBE TREE STEWARD.
IT LOOKED BEAUTIFUL TONIGHT WHEN I WAS DRIVING UP.
DO YOU, UM, DO YOU ALL PARTICIPATE IN THE, UM, THE EARTH DAY? WE DO.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I WALKED AROUND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT IT'S A VERY BUSY, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT'S ANOTHER, SO WE PLACE FOR, SO WE WERE AT EARTH DAY, WE WERE AT YEAH.
THAT LONG PINE DAY PINE, THAT'S THE SAME THING I THINK.
I, AND I THINK, UH, WE'RE SHARING A TABLE WITH THE TREE STEWARDS, ACES AND, AND BEAUTIFICATION FOR JUNETEENTH.
AND, UH, BUT UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER, SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
THE THREE OF US, I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON ACES ARE ALSO VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY THE, UH, START OF THE GARDEN TOUR IS AT JUSTIN PROCTOR'S HOUSE.
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HANDING OUT THE MAPS AND THEN GOING TO THE OTHER, OTHER GARDENS.YOU SAID I WILL NOT BE IN TOWN ON SATURDAY TO BE ABLE TO, GOOCH'S NAME WAS LUKE.
YOU GOT A WIRE WRAP AROUND CHAIR.
SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS THREE A AND IT'S NEW BUSINESS.
IT'S A REQUEST OF VACATE A PORTION IN ALLEY BEHIND, UM, 125 WEST EIGHTH STREET.
UM, AND THIS IS MR. MCCOOL'S, UH, REQUEST AND I BELIEVE JOE IS GONNA YEAH.
SO, MR. UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE A PORTION OF 2000 SQUARE FEET OF ALLEY BEHIND THEIR RESIDENCE AT 1 25 WEST H STREET.
UH, BASICALLY TO BE USED AS ADDITIONAL BUFFER DUE TO SOME RECENT CONSTRUCTIONISTS IN TOWN HOMES.
UH, WHAT I WANTED TO FOCUS THE CONVERSATION ON WAS THIS GIS PLAT I HAVE OF THE ALLEYWAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING A COUPLE THINGS UP FOR REFERENCE.
UH, SO, UM, MR. MCCOOL IS RIGHT HERE AT 1 25 WEST EIGHTH STREET.
AND WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS THIS 20 FOOT ALLEYWAY, WHICH IS ABOUT 2000 FEET RIGHT HERE TO BE VACATED.
UH, WHEN YOU GO OUT TO LOOK AT THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU LOOK.
SO WE HAVE AN THIS ALLEY THAT TRANSCENDS BETWEEN EIGHTH AND NINTH STREET.
AND THEN WE HAVE THIS ALLEY THAT GOES, UM, ACROSS THIS WAY BEFORE YOU GET TO VIRGINIA.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ALLEYWAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE SOME ENCROACHMENT BY A DRIVEWAY.
UM, HARD TO TRANSVERSE DOWN THROUGH THAT WAY.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE SOUTH PORTION, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ALSO HAVE SOME ENCROACHMENT AND IMPEDIMENTS TO GET TO THE ALLEYWAY AS WELL.
UH, THE ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VACATION, IS THAT WITH MR. MC, NICOLE'S REQUESTED VACATION, THAT WOULD LEAVE A PORTION OF THE ALLEYWAY WITH NO ACCESS FOR US.
SO IF WE WERE TO ENTERTAIN THIS VACATION RIGHT HERE, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AT LEAST A VACATE THE REMAIN PORTION OF THAT ALLEYWAY BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE NO, UH, ACCESS TO THAT AT THAT POINT.
ACTUALLY, AFTER I'VE REVIEWED THIS WHOLE THING, I THINK COUNCIL OUGHT TO CONSIDER VACATING ALL OF THIS ALLEYWAY.
UH, BUT THAT IS FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
SO TONIGHT WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF, DO YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH NOTIFYING YOU ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS? UH, THIS WOULD GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY, AND THEN AT THAT POINT COUNSEL CAN DECIDE IN JULY TO VACATE, UH, NOT VACATE OR APPOINT OF VIEWING COMMITTEE, WHICH THEN WOULD BE COMING BACK TO AUGUST.
SO BASICALLY TONIGHT LOOKING TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS ON THIS ALLEY VACATION CAN, UM, IT'S NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION, IT'S FOR THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY DOWN HERE? NO, THIS, THIS, THEY BUILT, UH, FIVE NEW ONES.
FIVE NEW ONES, AND I THINK IT'S RIGHT HERE.
I FORGOT WHO USED TO OWN THAT HOUSE.
SO THEY CONSTRUCTED FIVE TOWN HOMES RIGHT HERE ON NINTH STREET.
JOE, IF WE VACATE, UM, ALL THE SPOTS THAT YOU SAID ARE DEFINITELY AT LEAST THE YELLOW, I'M JUST ASKING THIS.
SO BY US VACATING IT, IT MEANS WE ARE NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ALLEY.
CORRECT? WELL, THERE'S A TWO PART PROCESS YOU GOTTA VACATE AND THEN YOU'VE GOTTA SELL THAT PROPERTY.
'CAUSE IF ONCE YOU VACATE IT, IF YOU DO NOT SELL IT, THEN IT BASICALLY GOES BACK TO BE UN VACATED.
TO AVOID, TO AVOID TOWN OWNING A NON-CONFORMING LOT.
SO THAT, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT IF WE WERE TO, LET'S SAY WE WERE TO, WE KNOW THAT THE GREEN AREA IS, IS IS WANTED, RIGHT? IT'S DESIRED BY, BY SOMEBODY WITH ADJOINING PROPERTY.
BUT THE YELLOW PART, UH, UNTIL WE WOULD HEAR FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS, WE COULD VACATE THAT AND THEY COULD BE LIKE, WE DON'T WANT IT.
YOU KNOW, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO, RIGHT.
SO STAFF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS IF WE CANNOT VACATE THAT ENTIRE ALLEY, THEN WE DO NOT VACATE.
BECAUSE WE WOULD CREATE A SITUATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE A NON-CONFORMING LOT HERE WITH NO ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN.
WHILE STAFF HAS EVALUATED THIS, WE HAVE NO UTILITIES OR NO FUTURE PLANS FOR THIS RIGHT AWAY.
SO, UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, SOME OF THE, THE NEARBY RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZING THIS ALREADY.
SO STAFF, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ENTERTAIN MEDICAID, NOT JUST THIS, BUT THIS AS WELL.
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GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A NIGHTMARE TO GET THIS NEGOTIATED AND PRICING AND ALL THAT.AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE CONDITIONED UPON ALL OF IT GOING.
SO IT WOULD BE AN ALL OR NOTHING.
IT WOULD, EVERYBODY'S GOT A AND UH, JUST OUTTA I'M JUST ASKING.
SO JUST LIKE THE GREEN SQUARE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE GREEN SQUARE COULDN'T, IF WE VACATED THE YELLOW, THEY COULDN'T OFFER TO BUY ALL THE YELLOW, COULD THEY? NO, THEY COULDN'T.
IT TO BE, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE AN ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER.
SO, SO IT WOULD BE TO, IT WOULD BE TO, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT'S.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK INTO HERE, ADVANTAGES TO TRY TO RALLY THE REST OF EVERYBODY TO WANT TO, TO WANNA TO PURCHASE WHATEVER ADJOINS WITH THEIRS, MAYBE SPLIT IT OR WHATEVER.
SO WE WOULD, IF COUNSEL WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD SEND THE LETTER TO ALL THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE ALLEYS THAT WE WANT TO VACATE, AND WE WOULD GIVE THEM NOTICE THAT WE'RE GONNA VACATE AND SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO START GAUGING WHO'S INTERESTED IN PURCHASING AND WHO'S NOT.
JUST ANY, UH, ANY, UH, FRUSTRATION FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ENCROACHING APPROACHING.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
NORMALLY ON THESE ALLEY VACATIONS, WE WILL FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY NEIGHBORHOOD DISPUTES OR ANY OTHER DISPUTES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I HONESTLY, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THE LETTERS OUT.
I HAVE A FEELING SOMEBODY'S BEEN USING THAT PROPERTY IF THEY, THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEIR PROPERTY IS IN PERSON.
I, I WOULD SOMETHING OF THAT SIGNIFICANCE, I WOULD SAY IF I WAS PROPERTY OWNER, I, I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD KNOW, BUT PROBABLY JUST WELL LIVED WITH IT.
BUT IF IT'S A RENTER, YOU KNOW, THE CORNER LOT, THEY DON'T HAVE OFF STREET PARKING YEAH.
TECHNICALLY, WHICH IS AN ONGOING ISSUE.
SO, SO I DARE SAY THAT THAT WAS, THAT ALLEY'S BEEN THERE FOR, WAS THERE LONGER? YEAH, I DISAPPEARED TO SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT THIS FOLKS ARE GONNA SAY.
BUT I MEAN, I MEAN YEAH, I AGREE THAT JOE, I THINK I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I MEAN, UH, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THAT, I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING.
I WAS LIKE, WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE JUST TO GO IN AND SEE IF WE DOING THE REST OF IT AT THAT POINT? THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
BUT, UM, AND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT PEOPLE ENCROACHING OR BEING FRUSTRATED, WHICH I GET THAT, BUT ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE BEEN USING IT AND THEY HAVEN'T PAID FOR ANYTHING THAT THEY MAY NOT WANT TO PAY FOR IT, BUT MAYBE IF THEY KNOW THAT TECHNICALLY THEY CAN'T HAVE THEIR, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE A DRIVEWAY DRIVEWAY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY DRIVEWAY AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DRIVEWAY, DRIVEWAY GRAVEL ON IT BUILDING ON THE BACK.
THERE'S A SHED SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAH.
AND AS AMBER SAID, OR JOSH TOO MAYBE THAT THEY DON'T EVEN REALIZE THAT.
UH, AN ALLEY OCCUPIED, IT'S GOT GOOD.
UM, YEAH, I, JOE, ON THE, ON, JUST SO THAT I'VE GOT MY BEARINGS MM-HMM.
AND THEN OVER HERE, RIGHT PAST THIS HOUSE LINE HERE IS VIRGINIA AVENUE.
AND THEN I GOT IT, I GOT IT MIXED UP.
IT'S THE, THERE'S A SHED SITTING IN, IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VIRGINIA AVENUE SIGN.
AND, AND ACTUALLY, I, I QUESTIONED THE, WHEN THIS GIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN, BECAUSE I WAS THERE YESTERDAY AND YOU CANNOT GAIN ACCESS.
UH, YOU, YOU CAN'T GET DOWN THERE.
SO YEAH, THIS GI S FROM NINTH, FROM NINTH STREET DOWN, YOU, YOU CAN'T GET ACROSS.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT DISCLAIMER OUT.
THIS PHOTO IS FROM A 2022 SATELLITE.
SO, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD VISUAL TO SHOW YOU THE ENCROACHMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTED.
EVEN SO IT'S ONLY TWO YEARS OLD.
AND I I'M SURE THOSE THINGS DIDN'T JUST SAY
I'M SAYING, I'M SURE THAT SHED'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN TWO YEARS.
SO COUNSEL, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU ALL, UM, 'CAUSE I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE THIS TO ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS, OR WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLAN TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN
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JULY.AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, AS MR. WALTZ SAID, THEY WOULD, UM, SEND NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE.
I, I WILL TELL YOU I DID, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS, SO I'M MAYBE YOU ALL KNEW AND I DIDN'T.
BUT WHEN THOSE LETTERS GO OUT, THEY'RE CERTIFIED.
SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW.
WELL, IF THEY'VE SIGNED FOR IT, THEN WE ASSUME THEY KNOW.
SO EVERYBODY WOULD GET A NOTICE OF IT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE.
SO, UM, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM PUTTING, WE NEED TO ADVERTISE SO THEY CAN PUT THEIR LETTERS.
I WOULD HOPE THAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SHOW UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THERE AND SPEAK THEIR, SPEAK THEIR MIND ON IT.
THAT'S A LOT OF THOUGH, I'M JUST LOOKING 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ON THAT ONE THAT YOU, THAT'S THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NOTIFICATIONS.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT, AND WE MAY, WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY WE ALWAYS HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE PRICES, BUT MAYBE
I DO HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR US ONCE WE GET DOWN AND SEE WHO'S INTERESTED.
I DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE LETTERS WILL GO TO THE ENTIRE T RIGHT? EXACTLY.
IT'S GONNA BE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, BUT I THINK IT'S THE ONLY WAY FOR WE CAN GET ENOUGH INTEREST TO SEE IF, IF THIS IS EVEN FEASIBLE.
YEAH, BECAUSE I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH LIKE THE YELLOW THERE.
I MEAN, YOU WOULD, YOU COULDN'T, I MEAN, YOU COULDN'T JUST LEAVE THAT HANGING.
'CAUSE THEN, I MEAN, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN HOURS THE INSIDE OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE HAD INTEREST, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S OPTIONS, THERE ARE OPTIONS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A CONSENSUS TO, UH, ADVERTISE THIS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 22ND.
UM, AND THEN EVERYBODY WILL GET THEIR, UM, NOTIFICATIONS.
AND SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THREE B.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOUND IS, BUT OH,
OH, I'M, IT CAN'T YOUR IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT WAS STILL ON THERE.
I WAS LIKE, UM, SO THREE B IS THE BLANKET RESOLUTION FOR PROJECT FUNDING COMMITMENT PROJECTS UNDER AGREEMENT WITH BDOT.
AND STEVE CHUAN IS HERE TO TALK WITH US ABOUT THAT.
OR, OR NOT
I CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
WELL, YOU GOTTA TELL, TELL US FROM HERE.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY, SO THAT THE PUBLIC GETS TO, UH, GET TO NEAR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, IT'S A BLANKET RESOLUTION FOR THE, UM, HAPPY CREEK PHASE TWO APPLICATION THAT WE PUT IN THROUGH SMART SCALE PROGRAM.
UM, WE APPLIED IN APRIL AND UH, WE HAD A PRE, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH.
UH, IT CLOSED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, VOT UH, HAS COMMENTED ON A FEW THINGS THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON.
UM, THEY ARE WORKING ON A REVISED COST ESTIMATE AND UM, THEY, UH, THERE'S A FEW OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM THAT IS, UM, THAT THEY ARE TOUCHING ON AS WELL.
UM, THE FINAL APPLICATION, UH, IT OPENED JUNE 1ST.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS TO HAVE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM THE GOVERNING BODY AND FEED DOT, UM, THEY, THEIR PREFERRED METHOD FOR A RESOLUTION IS WHAT THEY CALL BLANKET RESOLUTION.
SO YOU WILL NOT SEE A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THERE.
THEY DO NOT ADVISE PUTTING A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR ANY OF THEIR PROJECTS THROUGH THEIR FUNDING, UM, PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT COMMITS YOU TO THAT AMOUNT AND THEN YOU'RE HELD TO IT.
SO, UH, IN THIS CASE, UM, THE TOWN HAD TO, UM, ADD AN IDEA OF THE COST THROUGH A PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
UM, BUT IN THIS REAL VDOT IS GOING TO REVISE THE COST ESTIMATE FOR US.
SO I'M SURE IT'S NOT GOING DOWN EITHER.
NO, I'M PROBABLY, SO THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED TO VDOT EARLIER THIS SPRING, THEY ADVISED US TO PUT BACK THE HE
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CREEK PHASE TWO IN THE SMART SCALE MM-HMM.SO THIS IS A GREAT THING AND, AND VDOT WANTS US TO PASS THIS BLANKET RESOLUTION.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, SO THAT'S WHY, UM, STEVE IS JOINING US TONIGHT WHILE ROBBIE'S ON VACATION.
SO IT'S VERY PROMISING TO HEAR BECAUSE IN THE TRANSPORTATION SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING LAST YEAR, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATE.
VDOT TOLD THE TRANSPORTATION SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HAPPY CREEK PHASE TWO WAS OUT OF THE QUESTION.
SO THAT WAS JUST LAST YEAR YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON SITE.
SO I'M GLAD THAT IT'S BACK BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME, THIS HAD BEEN PREDATING MY TIME FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WHEN I WENT TO RICHMOND TO A LEGISLATOR'S DAY, THAT WAS NOT LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WAS, WE WERE WAITING OUTSIDE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO TRY TO TALK TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE ABOUT GETTING MONEY.
AND UH, THIS IS PROBABLY, I'M JUST, WHEN YOU I'M WANNA ASK A QUESTION AND I'M GO, BUT I'M SURE COUNSEL'S GOOD WITH THIS, BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT PASSING A BLANKET RESOLUTION WOULD TIE US INTO A DOLLAR AMOUNT RIGHT.
THAT, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SAYING NOT TO DO IT THAT WAY.
A BLANKET RESOLUTION WOULD NOT TIE.
NO, I KNOW THAT I'M SAYING, UM, BUT SO COULD THAT, THAT WOULDN'T WORK AGAINST US EITHER, RIGHT? THAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH A, A MUCH LARGER NO, NO.
I JUST HAD TO, THAT WAS IN MY HEAD.
NO, I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, BUT I WAS LIKE, I WAS LIKE, WELL, HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM NOT AGREEING TO SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT WE COULD AFFORD OR, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY WHEN THE TIME COMES.
IF OUR APPLICATIONS ACCEPTED, WE JUST DON'T GET THE FUNDING THAT THEY MATCH.
DOESN'T STREET BRIDGE, SO, MM-HMM.
SAME THING WITH THE SIDEWALK WITH THE REVENUE SHARING.
IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE JUST DON'T GET IT.
COUNSEL, WHAT IS AND DO MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVE? I'M GOOD.
I MEAN, STEVE, YOU MAY HAVE, STEVE PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THIS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE.
I MEAN, FOR WHAT VDOT, YOU KNOW, WAS, UH, WHAT MADE THEM CHANGE THEIR MIND BETWEEN THE, THIS YEAR AND THIS ISSUE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT SURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE HAD MENTIONED LAST YEAR WAS THAT THEY HAD SO MANY APPLICANTS LAST YEAR THAT BY RANKING, IT FELL SO LOW ON THE LIST.
SO MAYBE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS EITHER GOT COMPLETED OR DIDN'T APPLY AGAIN.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY CHANGED SOME OF THE METRICS FOR THE EVALUATION OF THE PROJECTS.
AND THAT IS WHEN THEY TOLD US THAT WITH THAT CHANGE IN EVALUATION, WE MAY SCORE BETTER.
SO THEY ADVISED US TO PUT IN FOR IT.
AND I KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN WE, I MET WITH, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHO WE, I WAS IN A MEETING WITH AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR APPLICATION.
WELL, I KNOW BEFORE THEY MADE IT SOUND LIKE TOO, LIKE IF THERE WEREN'T FATALITIES.
UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE FACTORS IN SCORING THE APPLICATION.
AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACCIDENTS OUT THERE.
THERE'S HASN'T BEEN ANY FATALITIES, THANK GOD.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT REALLY DRIVES THE SCORE.
UH, WE GOT SOUTH STREET IN SMART SCALE.
UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS FOR HIM.
SO THIS INCLUDES THE, LIKE WHAT THEY CALL IT, THE SCUR, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
IT, IT GOES UM, UH, RIGHT ABOUT, UH, MEADOW, MEADOW COURT, I THINK IT IS, TO YIELD STREET.
JUST HAVE ONE MORE PHASE AFTER THAT.
AND THESE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN EVERY NIGHT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, 'CAUSE THE SMART SCALE ON SOUTH STREET THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL.
SO I KNOW IT TAKES A LITTLE WAYS, BUT IT'S BETTER.
IT'S JUST BEING ACCEPTED GETS THE BALL ROLLING.
SO ANYWAY, WELL, THE FACT THAT THEY CAME BACK TO US AND TOLD US TO AFTER TELLING US TO GIVE IT UP, BASICALLY I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I DIDN'T QUALIFY ECONOMIC, BECAUSE THE SAFETY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT ADAM GAVE US.
AND THERE IS NOTHING, THE HOSPITAL DOESN'T COUNT AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE INDUSTRIAL PARK ISN'T USED AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING DOES NOT COUNT.
SO EVEN IF 600 HOUSES WERE TO GO IN BACK THERE, IT DOES NOT COUNT FOR THE APPLICATION.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE FACTORS.
MAYBE THEY REMOVED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTION BECAUSE THAT REALLY EXCLUDED US EVERYWHERE IN THE TOWN LIMITS FROM QUALIFYING.
BASED ON THAT, THERE'S NOWHERE THAT WE CAN HAVE SUBSTANTIAL NEW, IT HAS TO BE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT CAN'T BE REVITALIZED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT HAS TO BE IN PLAN PLANNING.
UM, AND IT HAS TO BE ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND, AND BY THAT I MEAN LIKE LITERALLY CONNECTED
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TO THE STREET, RIGHT OFF THE STREET.UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THEY, THEY WANT TO SEE, UM, PLANS AND OUR ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION.
THERE WAS A PROJECT GOING ON AT THE TIME OUT THERE THAT, UH, HELPED US WITH THAT APPLICATION.
UM, OUT HERE, THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON.
AND THE BUSINESS PARK OUT THERE IS, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY ADJACENT.
UM, ADAM HAS TRIED TO CONNECT IT AND, AND WORK IT IN THERE, BUT WE EVEN ASKED LIKE IF WE HAD A GROCERY STORE ON LEE TR PARKWAY.
'CAUSE AT ONE POINT I THINK THEY HAD A CONTRACT ON LAND OUT THERE THAT FELL THROUGH AND THAT DIDN'T COUNT.
NOTHING ON LE TR COUNTS IF THAT WHOLE THING WERE DEVELOPED.
IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR HAPPY CREEK PHASE TWO.
ALL THE RESIDENTIAL STUFF IS, EVEN THOUGH IT DUMPS OUT THERE,
BECAUSE IT'S A MAJOR THIRD AFFAIR.
EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH, WE'LL WITH, WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ON THE JUNE 24TH MEETING.
UM, OKAY, SO NEXT UP IS OLD BUSINESS AND MS. CAPRI'S GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT THIS.
LOCAL BOARD AND BUILDING CODE MEMBERSHIP.
SO, UM, BASICALLY THIS BOARD, UH, IS SET IN PLACE.
THIS WOULD BE FIRST STEP IN THE APPEALS PROCESS WHEN STAFF ISSUES A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATION.
UM, SO VIRGINIA CODE CHAPTER 36 MANDATES THE CREATION OF THE L-B-B-C-A.
IT REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST FIVE MEMBERS.
UM, AND ACTUALLY IN THE CODE, THERE'S NO RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT THAT THEY LIVE WITHIN THE JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS.
UM, BUT THERE ARE STIPULATIONS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE A REGISTERED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, A BUILDER, A PROPERTY MANAGER, A TRADE CONTRACTOR, OR LIKE A, JUST YOUR TYPICAL CONSUMER.
UM, DO THEY, DO WE HAVE TO, I'M SORRY.
'CAUSE I WAS PART WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THIS BACK WITH THE, UM, FLIGHT PROPERTIES, THEY, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF EACH.
THEY JUST HAVE TO, I JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF IT.
EACH PERSON THAT'S ON THERE SHOULD FIT ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
WHETHER IT'S A BUILDER, A PROPERTY MANAGER, A TRADE CONTRACTOR, OR A CONSUMER, YOU NEED TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO JUST REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR AND THEN TWO ALTERNATE TWO ALTERNATES ARE POSSIBLE.
SO FOR US RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A FULL BOARD, STAFF CANNOT ISSUE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CITATIONS AT THE MOMENT.
I KNOW THAT, UM, FORWARD COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE TENDERED HIS RESIGNATION DUE TO HIS RECENT APPOINTMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, MR. SON, I THOUGHT WE WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE MEMBER REPRESENT TWO.
IT WAS ONLY PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL WHEN GLEN WAS ABLE, I THOUGHT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE COMES TO THESE APPELLATE BODIES NOW.
SO THEY, THEY CAN ONLY BE ON THIS BOARD AND NOTHING ELSE.
THEY CAN ONLY BE ON THIS BOARD AND NOTHING ELSE.
THESE, THESE APPELLATE BOARDS AND, AND WE HAVE A CHAIRMAN AND DO WE HAVE A VICE CHAIR? WAS THE PERSON THAT RECENTLY RESIGNED.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT.
BUT FOR US, IF ONE PERSON MISSES A MEETING, WE CAN'T HOLD, LIKE WE CAN'T HAVE THE MEETING.
UM, 'CAUSE ALL FIVE, IT TAKES ALL FIVE TO HAVE TO PRESENT.
SO THAT'S WHY THE BIG PUSH TONIGHT IS TO ASK FOR ALTERNATES.
WELL, UM, SO I BELIEVE WE NEED TWO MEMBERS AND THEN I WOULD LIKE, OR WE WOULD LIKE IF YOU WOULD GET A SMALL TENANT.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HAD TO MEET, WE HAVE NOT HAD AN APPEAL FILED YET.
UM, IF THIS BOARD IS MEETING EVERY MONTH, THERE'S A PROBLEM.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION IS IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE ISSUING PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS.
IT JUST MEANS THAT WHOEVER'S GETTING IT IS NOT APPEALING IT.
SO THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE EITHER WILLING TO, TO ADDRESS THE COMPLAINT OR RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A COMPLAINT.
SO, AND YOU DO HAVE TO PAY MONEY TO APPEAL IT.
I WILL STATE THAT THAT FEE DOES NOT COVER THE COST OF THAT ONE MEETING.
BUT IT DETERS, I THINK IT DETERS SOME OF THE APPEALS.
WELL 'CAUSE IF YOU HAVE $400, WHAT MAYBE WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA FIX, YOU'D BE MORE WILLING TO PUT YOUR $400 TOWARDS THE REPAIR.
OR WE HAVE STAFF HAS ISSUED OVER 30, UH, PROPERTY BEING IN TIONS.
UM, SO THEY ARE, UH, WHEN HE FIRST ENACTED THAT, UM, APPEALS BOARD, SO THAT IS GOING OUT TRYING.
GARY'S BEEN OFF FOR TWO YEARS AND HE NO, IT WAS RIGHT.
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THE BOARD BEFORE THEY CAME.IT WAS RIGHT AT THE END OF THEM GETTING OFF LAST YEAR.
AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR'S WHEN WE GOT THAT BOARD FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT'S ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
WE'VE ISSUED, I THINK IT'S LIKE SOMEWHERE AROUND 33 PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CITATIONS.
WE'VE DONE THE FOLLOW UP INSPECTIONS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY BROUGHT A FEW PROPERTIES IN COMPLIANCE.
OF THE THREE MEMBERS THAT THAT NEED, NEED TO HAVE NO LESS THAN FIVE YEARS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
DO WE HAVE THOSE THREE MEMBERS?
SO, SO COUNSEL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY AT A CROSSROADS HERE.
AND I, AND I SAY THAT LIKE AS IF WE ALL AREN'T TRYING BECAUSE I KNOW IF YOU ALL, I MEAN I FEEL LIKE HOW MANY MEETINGS DURING MY MAYOR'S REPORT OR EVEN THE, I'M ASKING PEOPLE AT THE GROCERY STORE.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK I EVEN SAID SOMETHING AT THE INTERVIEW WITH MR. MCCOOL ON THURSDAY.
I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED PEOPLE.
IT'S A BIT FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE HAD A PUBLIC OUTCRY TO INITIATE THIS BOARD AND YOU KNOW, SO MANY PEOPLE CAME AND SPOKE BEFORE COUNSELOR EMAILED COUNSELOR CALLED THE TOWN PLANNING AND ZONING AND TOWN MANAGER.
AND THEN YOU INITIATE IT AND YOU LAUNCH IT AND IMPLEMENT IT AND NOBODY'S WILLING TO SERVE.
AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO MEET SHOULD BE ENTICING TO SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS BOARD TO PUT THEIR HAT IN FOR IT.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THE TOWN LIMITS.
LIKE THE BUSINESS OWNERS ON MAIN STREET WHO OFTEN COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT HAVING A STAY IN TOWN ELECTIONS, THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE TOWN.
SO WE, WE MAKE ONE CORRECTION.
UH, WHILE IT SAYS NO RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS PER CODE, OUR TOWN CODE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE.
I BELIEVE IT REQUIRES THREE TO BE IN TOWN AND TWO AND TO BE IN THE COUNTY.
YEAH, I WAS JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY WHEN I SAW THAT, I WAS THINKING, I REMEMBER WHEN WE THREE CODE.
I KNOW WHEN WE SET IT UP IT WAS, WE WANTED TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE FROM, BUT I BELIEVE THE CHAIR IS NOT IN THE COUNTY.
I MEAN THE CHAIR IS IN THE COUNTY, NOT IN THE TOWN.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED.
WHO LIVES IN THE COUNTY? SO THE QUESTION I HAD, LAUREN, WAS CAN THE ALTERNATE TO IN THE COUNTY, THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR GEORGE.
AND I DON'T HAVE THE MAINTENANCE CODE IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'M I THOUGHT PACKET I NO.
SO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE CODE AND WHAT THOSE ALTERNATE MEETING THOSE MEAN THAT THEY ARE GONNA, IF SOMEBODY ONE OF THOSE FIVE CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING, THAT THEN IT'S OKAY TO BRING IN THIS ONE WHO'S YES, THEIR CALLED, THEY'RE JUST CALLED FOR THAT.
TIME FOR LOCAL COUNTY CHAPTER NINE.
IS IT WORTH PULLING PAST THE RESUMES, UH, ON FILE? TAKE A LOOK TO REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE.
WELL HE DIDN'T QUALIFY 'CAUSE HE'S IN THE COUNTY, BUT THEN THEY NEED ALTERNATES.
SO WOULD HE QUALIFY FOR THAT? I'M LOOKING OUT THAT IS GEORGE LOOKING TOO? I DON'T SEE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE VCC.
LOCAL BUILDING CODE APPEALS BOARD, BYLAWS.
SO WE, WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THE MORE DETAILS ON THE MEMBERSHIP 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT.
I THINK WHAT BRUCE WAS, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT TO GO BACK TO THE OLD, THE RESUMES THAT WE HAVE ON FILE, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IS IT WORTH, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THIS GUY IS WELL TINA, HE'S TALKING ABOUT, I'M HE'S TALKING ABOUT ANY RESUME RESUMES OF ANYBODY WHO'S APPLIED FOR ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, RIGHT? DON'T, NOT ALL.
SO I MEAN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IS WHAT I HAVE.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ANY DIFFERENT.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME OUTREACH AT THE, UM, AT THE OPEN HOUSE OR THE UM MM-HMM.
AND UH, SO MAYBE SOMETHING WILL COME OUT OF THAT AS WELL.
AND THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT THE APPLICATION WITH L-B-B-C-A, BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK TOO, AT THE OPEN HOUSE, 'CAUSE IT'LL BE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING IF WE COULD HAVE
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BLANK APPLICATIONS, APPLICATIONS AT THE TOWN COUNCIL TABLE FOR ANY THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE'RE MISSING RIGHT NOW.NO, WE GOT A PLAN COMMISSION OPENING.
SO WE, AND SO WE PLAN, I PLAN TO, AT THE OPEN HOUSE, HAVE A FLYER THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE BOARDS AND WHAT IT TAKES AND WHAT'S TO BE ON.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QR CODES WHERE THEY CAN JUST DO A QR CODE AND, AND IT'LL TAKE, TAKE 'EM RIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I DO BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DOUBLE DOWN AND TRY TO RECRUIT AS MANY CITIZENS AS WE CAN ON THE 22ND.
AND I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE A STRETCH, BUT I'M GONNA THROW IT OUT THERE ANYWAY.
I WONDER IF LIKE SOMEBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO COME TO OPEN HOUSE AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WELL YOU'LL BE THERE AS STAFF, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW SOMETIMES SOMEBODY IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL I MIGHT, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT ALL ENTAILS AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO VOLUNTEER.
I'M WELL, JOSH, ARE YOU GONNA BE THERE? JOSH? JOHN'S PLANNING QUESTION.
YOU COULD, WELL I WAS JUST SAYING LIKE, AS PEOPLE DO ASK QUESTIONS, LIKE WE CAN BE SITTING THERE BEING LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE L-B-B-C-A AND IF, IF THEY ASK A QUESTION LIKE, WELL WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN THEY MEET, I'LL BE THERE IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE OFFICIAL, HE'LL BE THERE.
SO HE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT'S GOOD.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS AND HE WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND HE WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION.
THANK, I JUST WAS THINKING THEN WHEN PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS, YOU'D HAVE SOMEBODY RIGHT THERE TO LIKE ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR FEARS OR THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT SEND TO OUR TABLE.
BUT, BUT ONCE AGAIN, PUBLIC
WE ARE REALLY, UM, WE ARE REALLY IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR THESE, FOR, UH, WELL THEY GET A STIPEND, SO IT'S NOT EVEN TECHNICALLY VOLUNTEER.
PLANNING COMMISSION DOES, I KNOW PLANNING LBCA DOES WHEN THEY MEET LBCA.
UM, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY HAVEN'T MET.
SO THEY, EVERYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON IT, IT'S NEVER EVEN GOTTEN STIPEND.
THEY HAVE TO MEET ONCE A YEAR TO SET THE BYLAWS AND GO FOR TRAINING.
SO I HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE STATE COME AND GIVE THEM TRAINING EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO THEY DO GET PAID FOR THAT MEETING.
SO THEY, SO THE L-B-B-C-A, THERE IS A TRAINING AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIKE GO TO RICHMOND.
LIKE NO, THIS ONE IS JUST, HE COMES HERE AND THEY WILL DO THE ANNUAL TRAINING HERE EVERY YEAR.
BUT TYPICALLY FEBRUARY IS THE MONTH THAT WE HOLD ALL THE, THE BOARDS, UH, WE HAVE ALL THE TRAINING AND THE BYLAW DISCUSSIONS.
MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THE BUSINESSES AROUND HERE THAT ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION FIELD, YOU KNOW, HVAC OR ELECTRICAL OR WHATEVER.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO LEND THEIR EXPERTISE.
SO ANYWAY, BUT BASICALLY WHAT KAKI IS SAYING IS THEY CAN'T EVEN ISSUE BUILDING VIOLATIONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN APPEALS BOARD.
SO AS COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS SAID, IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WANNA SEE THAT HAPPEN, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE IN PLACE.
SO, AND I'M LIKE YOU, WHEN WE WERE STARTING THIS, I THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD JUST BE BEATING DOWN THE DOORS FOR THIS 'CAUSE THEY'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DELIC STRUCTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AROUND THE TOWN.
AND, AND HERE WE ARE TRYING TO BEG PEOPLE TO COME AND JOIN US.
WE ARE ON TO NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS OUR CLOSED MEETING.
AND SO IF ANYBODY, UM, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO READ, ATTEND CLOSE MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11 AND 2.2 DASH 37 12 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES.
AND THAT COUNSEL CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON THESE MA MATTERS IN OPEN SESSION.
ONE PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH SEVEN 11 A EIGHT OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR OBTAINED BY PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL, MORE SPECIFICALLY A AND OFFICER TO PURCHASE A CONDITIONALLY VACATED PORTION OF SEVENTH STREET, 3,390 SQUARE FEET LOCATED AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH KIBBLER STREET AND B, A REQUEST FROM HEPT A LLC.
AND SECOND, MS. LEY ROLL CALL VICE MAYOR
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YES.OKAY, MS. PASS, WE ARE GONNA GO INTO CLOSE.
MAD MAYOR, MOVE THAT COUNCIL CERTIFIED IT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZED EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S PERMANENT VOTE THAT ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSE MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNCIL.
AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNSEL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL.
SECOND PRESSLEY ROLL CALL CASE.
COUNCILMAN REPPORT CLOSED? YES.
COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
OKAY, WE ARE NOW OUT OF CLOSE AND BACK IN OPEN SESSION.
UM, IS THERE ANY MATTERS TO WHICH COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ACTION? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL DENIED EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF A PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PLAN PURSUANT TO TOWN CODE TOWN CODE 1 75 DASH 37.18 AS REQUESTED BY HEP TED LLC BY LETTER DATED MAY 31ST, 2024.
ANY DISCUSSION MADAM MAYOR, THE REASON BEHIND THE MOTION THAT I MADE IS BECAUSE THIS REQUEST WAS NOT SUBMITTED IN A TIMELY MANNER AS REQUIRED BY THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN CODE 1 75 DASH 37.18, WHICH REQUIRES THE REQUEST TO BE SUBMITTED AT LESS AT LEAST 20 DAYS PRIOR TO EXPIRATION.
FURTHERMORE, THE REQUESTING PARTY ASKED US TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION AND LASTLY, THE LEACH RUN RIGHT AWAY HAS NOT BEEN CONVEYED TO THE TOWN AS REQUIRED BY THE 2012 PROFFERS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WISH THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE AT A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, WITH PLENTY OF PUBLIC NOTICE.
HOWEVER, UM, WITH SUCH NOTE SHORT NOTICE, THE TOWN STAFF NOR THE COUNCIL WERE ABLE TO, UM, PREPARE TO HAVE THIS ON MORE THAN ONE WORK SESSION OR TAKE ACTION AT ANY OTHER MEETING.
I ALSO SECOND THOSE SAME SENTIMENTS.
UH, REQUEST WASN'T IN SUBMITTED TIMELY AND AS WELL, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE CONVEYANCE OF, OF THE, UH,
SO, AND THAT WAS NOTED IN A PREVIOUS, UH, PUBLIC SESSION AS WELL.
SO, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
MS. PARSLEY, YOU'RE READY TO DO A ROLL CALL? WAIT, MAYOR SAB, ABSENT.
COUNCILWOMAN D DAMON PAYNE? YES.
COUNCILMAN IS ABSENT A MOTION PASSES, UH, SINCE THERE IS NO OTHER BUSINESS TONIGHT, I'M GONNA ADJOURN THE MEETING.