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WE'RE GOING.SO WE'RE GONNA CALL THE TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR WORK SESSION FOR MONDAY, MAY 13TH TO ORDER.
MS. PRESLEY, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? MAYOR RO HERE.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL, ADD THE TOWN MANAGER TO THE CLOSED MEETING MOTION AND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER TAKING ACTION REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS FOLLOWING THE CLOSED MEETING.
COUNCILMAN WITH YOU? DEMON KANE? YES.
SO THIS WEEK THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY IN IS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK.
AND WE, YOU ALL KNOW THAT AT OUR APRIL MEETING, WE READ, LET'S SEE, FIVE DIFFERENT PROCLAMATIONS.
SOMEHOW THIS ONE, UM, MISSED US.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE UP FOR THAT RIGHT NOW BY, UM, READING THAT PROCLAMATION AT THIS TIME.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL, UM, ARE AWARE THAT WHEN WE DID THE BRIDGE DEDICATION ON SATURDAY, THIS WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT THIS WEEK WAS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK.
SO THIS IS A PRO PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL POLICE WEEK MAY 12TH THROUGH THE 18TH, 2024.
WHEREAS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK IS A TIME TO HONOR THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE WHO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND OFFERS HONOR, REMEMBRANCE, AND PEER SUPPORT, WHILE ALLOWING LAW ENFORCEMENT SURVIVORS AND CITIZENS TO GATHER AND PAY RESPECT TO THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
AND WHEREAS IN 1962, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY SIGNED A PROCLAMATION, WHICH DESIGNATED MAY 15TH AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY, KNOWN TODAY AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK, AND NOW THEREFORE THE MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL PROCLAIM MAY 12TH THROUGH THE 18TH 2024 AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, RECOGNIZING OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND REMEMBER WITH SOLEMN RESPECT THOSE OFFICERS WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, NEVER FORGETTING THEIR COURAGE AND SERVICE.
AND THAT'LL BE SIGNED BY ME AND, AND PRESENTED.
SO, UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, AS, AS I SAID EARLIER, UH, THIS PAST SATURDAY, FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T AWARE, UM, I KNOW IT HASN'T HIT THE PAPER YET OR IN THE MEDIA, BUT IT WILL BE THAT WE DEDICATED THE BRIDGE ON SOUTH STREET TO LIEUTENANT PAT.
UM, I KNEW IT WAS PAT, IT'S ACTUALLY PATRICK, BUT IT WAS, I WAS TRYING TO GIVE HIS OFFICIAL NAME, BUT MOST PEOPLE KNEW HIM AS, AS PAT FERRELL.
AND SO, UM, HIS FAMILY WAS THERE WITH US.
AND, UM, AND THEN LAST FALL WE DEDICATED, UM, THE BRIDGE ON COMMERCE AVENUE TO SERGEANT DENNIS SMEDLEY.
DENNIS SMEDLEY, I, I WANNA SAY SERGEANT, I WANNA MAKE THAT.
UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE LAST YEAR AND I'M SO PROUD OF THIS COUNCIL IN OUR TOWN TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
I KNOW THAT ON SATURDAY WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH, UM, PAT FERRELL'S BROTHER, HE SAID, THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING AND HE WAS VERY TOUCHED BY, UM, BY THAT, UM, UH, BY THE BRIDGE DEDICATION.
SO NEXT UP COUNCIL, AND IT IS, UM, SUPPOSED TO BE FOR CLOSED MEETING.
SO DO I HEAR A MOTION MADAM MAYOR? I MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE ENCLO MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 2 OF CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSE.
ONE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2371 A, ONE OF THE
SO, OKAY, MS. LEY, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? MAYOR
COUNCILMAN DE MONICA HAYES? YES.
SO I'M GONNA CALL THE, WELL, WE'LL, WE'RE FINISH UP CLOSED.
DO YOU READ THIS SOUND CLOSE? I MOVE THAT COUNCIL CERTIFIED THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE AS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S AFFIRMATIVE VOTE THAT ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED OR HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNSEL.
AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY A ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL SECOND.
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MS. MAYOR SEELO? YES.DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE THAT.
COUNSEL FOR THE DURATION OF THE CURRENT ABSENCE OF THE TOWN MANAGER DESIGNATE BJ WILSON, FINANCE DIRECTOR TO PERFORM THE DUTIES OF THE TOWN MANAGER EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.
MR. WILSON, YOU WILL BE UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
SO THIS IS SY 24 BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECEIVE FUNDS FOR ELECTRIC POLES.
UH, SO THE, UM, UH, BASICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE RECEIVING MONEY FROM BRIGHT SPEED TO, UH, PAY FOR THE EXPENSE OF US, UM, PURCHASING 22 ELECTRIC POLES.
AND WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE BUDGET, INCREASE OUR REVENUE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS, AND INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE TO OFFSET, UH, THE AMOUNT EXPENDED, UH, FOR THEM.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED THE POLLS AND JUST LOOKING TO BRING THIS BACK INTO THE BUDGET.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IT SAID IN THE MEMO THAT, UM, IT'S NOT CONFIDENTIAL EITHER, BUT, UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S STIPULATED THEN IN, IN THE EVENT OF THE TOWN REPLACING ONE OF BRIGHTS SPEED'S POLES WITH THE TOWN, STOCK POLE OWNERSHIP OF THE POLE TRANSFERS TO BRIGHTS SPEEDED.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT STRUCK ME.
SO BASICALLY THIS POLE WILL NOW BELONG TO BRIGHT SPEEDED AND NO LONGER US, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE, UM, WE HAVE A, UM, AN AGREEMENT, UH, FOR POLE ATTACHMENTS WITH BRIGHT SPEEDED AS WE DO WITH OTHERS.
AND IF THE POLE ONLY HAS, UH, THEIR SERVICES ON IT, IT IS CONSIDERED THEIR POLE.
UM, NOW WE DO HAVE SOME POLES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE ELECTRICAL IN THEM THAT ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT THESE POLES ARE, ARE INDEED BRIGHT SPEEDS THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ELECTRIC SERVICE ON.
SO IF FOR SOME REASON IN THE FUTURE WE NO LONGER, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S ALL PART OF A CONTRACT AND AN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS FORMALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, ANYWAY, UH, UH, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT IF WE WERE TO NO LONGER ALLOW THEM TO USE THE, OR TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TOWNER, WHATEVER, THE POLLS WOULD JUST BE THEIRS.
RIGHT? I WOULD REVERT OVER TO THE NEW COMPANY OR THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF LEGAL THINGS INVOLVED WITH THAT, RIGHT? NO, NO, NO.
I JUST KNOW BEFORE WHEN CITIZENS THAT HAD BEEN UPSET WHEN LIKE COMCAST WENT UP IN, UH, WENT UP IN FEES AND THINGS, AND COMCAST WAS SAYING, WELL, YOUR TOWN COUNCIL ALLOWS, YOU KNOW THAT.
SO IF THERE'S ELECTRIC AND BRIGHT SPEED ON THE POLE, IT STAYS UNDER OUR OWNERSHIP.
NORMALLY THERE ARE SOME THAT WE'VE ATTACHED LATER ON DOWN THE LINE.
UM, BUT FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEM, THEY'RE OUT.
SORRY, I I JUST, THAT STRUCK ME ODD WHEN IT SAID THAT THEY WOULD, THE OWNERSHIP WOULD TRANSFER TO THEM, BUT IT WAS STILL, AND I'M ASSUMING THE TOWN'S, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES, BUT IS WHEREVER THEY WOULD BE, RIGHT? YES.
THEY ARE IN THE EASEMENT OF, YES.
BUT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
UH, JUST AS IF ANYTHING, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS WITH THE POLE, IT'S ENTIRELY ON THEM ON IT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY OXLEY TO CHANGE OUT A POLE? UM, IN, IN SOME INSTANCES, YES.
UM, THERE'S, IT IS, UH, THERE'S, AND I'D HAVE TO REVIEW ALL THE AGREEMENTS.
THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, AGREEMENTS THAT COME THAT COME BEFORE COUNCIL EVERY PROBABLY FIVE YEARS FOR RENEWALS.
UM, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES, YES, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO CHANGE OUT A POLICY.
I, I'M JUST THINKING IF WE HAVE AN ACCIDENT, SO WELL, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE COME INTO PLAY AND THEN, AND THEN WE WOULD, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT, UH, STILL AND THEN CHARGE THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
SO THAT WILL BE ON MAY 28TH, ITEM THREE B.
IT'S THE FY 2324 WRITE OFF FOR BAD DEBT.
SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING I'LL BRING TO COUNCIL, UH, ANNUALLY TO WRITE OFF THE BAD DEBT FOR UTILITY BILLING.
UM, THE, UH, AMOUNT FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 IS, UH, $48,897 84 CENTS.
UH, THIS DOES REPRESENT, UH, THE, UH, ACCOUNTS
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THAT HAVE GONE BEYOND 151 ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE GONE BEYOND THE COLLECTION, UH, POLICY THAT, UH, WAS ADOPTED, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.UM, THIS DOES REPRESENT LESS THAN 1% OF THE UTILITY BILLING FOR A YEAR.
UH, SO WE ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, IN MY OPINION, COLLECTING, UH, WE'RE COLLECTING ROUGHLY 99% OF THE BILLS THAT GO OUT OF OUR OFFICE.
UM, IT DOES SEEM LIKE A, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT.
UH, SOME OF THESE ACCOUNTS, UM, MAY HAVE, UH, UH, BEEN FALLING UNDER THE, UM, UH, THE SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION, UH, WHERE WE, UH, ARE UNABLE TO DISCONNECT SERVICES.
SOME OF THEM ARE, FOR INSTANCE, THEY MAY HAVE HAD A LARGE LEAK AND JUST STUCK US WITH THE BILL.
UM, BUT WE GO THROUGH OUR DEBT SET OFF, UH, COLLECTION WHERE WE COLLECT FROM THE, UH, STATE INCOME TAXES, LOTTERY, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND WE HAVE A WHOLE PROCEDURE THAT WE GO THROUGH, UH, BEFORE THEY'RE, UH, DEEMED INACTIVE FOR THE, UH, PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.
UH, BUT WE DO BRING THESE TO COUNCIL EACH YEAR TO, UH, APPROVE.
UH, SO IT'S NOT ANY, UH, IT'S NOT HITTING OUR REVENUE DIRECTLY.
IT, IT SOME, UH, THROUGH THE BALANCE SHEET THERE AS UNCOLLECTABLE BILLS.
UH, BUT WE DO RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL APPROVE THESE AS WE HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST, UH, FEW YEARS THERE.
AS YOU SEE, IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN LINE EVEN WITH OUR RATE INCREASES, UH, WITH THE PRIOR, UH, FEW YEARS.
FIRST ONE IS, UM, HAVE YOU LIKE LOOKED INTO THESE? I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU GO THROUGH ALL THE AVENUES TO TRY TO COLLECT, BUT HAVE YOU EVER LIKE, ASSESSED HOW WELL YOUR, UM, DEPOSIT SYSTEM IS WORKING OUT? RIGHT.
SO LIKE ALL THESE PEOPLE, THEIR DEPOSIT WAS USED UP LONG AGO, I GUESS, OR HOW DOES THAT GO? SO, UM, UH, SEVERAL YEARS OR THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE LOOKED INTO, WE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE DEPOSITS, UM, AND WE, UH, DID INCREASE THE DEPOSITS.
WE HAD A, UM, A LOT OF, UH, UH, NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THAT OBVIOUSLY, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD INCREASED THE DEPOSITS AND WE ENDED UP COMING BACK AND, AND REVERTING, UH, TO A LOWER DEPOSIT.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AVENUES WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND GET A GOOD CREDIT LETTER AND HAVE THE DEPOSIT WAIVED.
UM, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CHARGING EVERYONE A DEPOSIT.
UH, BUT ALONG WITH THAT THERE'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT LEGISLATION COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
I I SAY THAT POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION COMING DOWN THE PIPE WHERE WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, UH, AS A WHOLE AND SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS US.
UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES WE HAVE, AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT IT AGAIN IN UPCOMING MONTHS HERE.
AND ALL THE ONES THAT ARE CHARGING OFF THIS TIME ARE FROM MORE THAN THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
LIKE THE MOST RECENT WE HAVE IS 2019.
WELL, ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK YOU.
THERE'S LIKE A 2011 ON THERE OR 2015 WERE THOSE ONES BECAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE KIND OF HOLDING ON TO THOSE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
SO IT'S BASED ON THE LAST ACTIVITY ON THE ACCOUNT.
SO IF WE WERE COLLECTING, SAY, YOU KNOW, FIVE BUCKS FROM DEBT SET OFF, THAT FIVE YEARS STARTS FROM THAT, WHEN THAT LAST LAST ACTIVITY WAS.
AND WE ARE ADAMANT THAT WE'RE GOING ON THE LAST ACTIVITY FORWARD.
SO IT MAY HAVE SAID 2011, BUT THE LAST PAYMENT MAY HAVE BEEN 2018.
AND, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS FOR SOME OF THESE ADDRESSES THAT ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES HAVE, DO YOU THINK IT COULD BE POSSIBLY FEASIBLE TO WORK WITH THE LANDLORD TO HAVE THE LANDLORD UP THE RENT IF THERE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE SOME, THERE'S SOME ADDRESSES AND SOME LOCATIONS RIGHT.
UM, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF, IF YOU COULD BROKER A DEAL WITH THE LANDLORD TO ADD UTILITIES AND LET THE LANDLORD PAY.
YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF THAT COULD BE A, A POSSIBILITY.
DO WHAT? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ASK.
WELL, I MEAN, NO, IF IT WAS MEANT TO BE PART OF A UTIL IF IT WAS UTIL I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE PROBABLY RENTING THERE ANYMORE.
YEAH, I DON'T EITHER, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ASK, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY, OH, YOU, SO YOU GOTTA UP YOUR RENT SO YOU CAN PAY.
SO YOU, YOU NEED TO PAY THE UTILITIES.
SOME OF THE, WELL, I KNOW SOME PLACES, BUT JUST NOT, I'VE NEVER RENTED IN MY LIFE, BUT MY CHILDREN THROUGHOUT COLLEGE, WE WERE ALWAYS IN SOMETHING.
UM, SOME PLACES DID, SOME PLACES THE LANDLORD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UTILITY AND, AND WE PAID THEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT.
BUT THEN IF THEY WERE, IF IT DIDN'T, IF IF IT DIDN'T GET PAID, THE LANDLORD HAD TO PAY IT.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU SAID, THEY WOULD EVICTED.
I MEAN, WE NEVER GOT EVICTED, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE, I KNOW WHEN THERE WAS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE, FIVE ROOMMATES IN THE APARTMENT AND THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS ALWAYS LIKE, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE PAYING IT? BUT YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY OVER HERE IS INSIDE.
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NOT, WE CAN'T MAKE THE LANDLORD CHOOSE THAT.WELL, YEAH, WE CAN'T MAKE THE LANDLORD.
BUT, UM, WHAT'S, AND WELL WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE IN SOME ASPECTS IS IS THAT, UM, WE OFFER ELECTRIC WATER, SEWER, AND GARBAGE FOR WATER.
YOU CAN, UH, THE LOCALITY CAN ACTUALLY LIEN THE PROPERTIES FOR THE WATER PORTION OF THE BILL.
WATER PORTION OF THE BILL IS INSIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, 'CAUSE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ELECTRIC.
WE CAN'T PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO, UH, BUT THAT'S HOW, UH, IF YOU GO TO OTHER LOCALITIES, THAT'S HOW THEY GET THE LANDLORD PROPERTY OWNERS TO PAY THIS BILLS IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE WATER.
OH, SO IT'S NOT A STATE MANDATED THING THEN IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE COULD DO IF IT WAS WORTHWHILE AT, AT OUR LEVEL.
WE CAN DO IT AT NO, THE STATE, THE STATE ONLY ALLOWS WATER TO BE DONE.
WELL, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IF OTHER LOCALITIES, YOU CAN DO THE WATER PORTION, BUT UM, YEAH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, THAT'S PROBABLY 10% OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
LOT OF THESE WILL PROBABLY DUE TO LIKE DISCONNECTION.
WHEN WAS THAT DONE? WELL, I GUARANTEE THEY DISCONNECTED AT SOME POINT.
BUT SOME OF THESE ARE, I JUST, THIS IS LIKE HOW MANY, FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS.
THE FIRST TIME I SAW IT I WAS LIKE, WELL, UM, BUT I KIND OF GOT, I'VE KIND OF GOTTEN USED TO IT NOW.
BUT, BUT I WILL SAY WHEN YOU SEE THESE BIG AMOUNTS, LIKE IN YOUR MIND, LIKE IN MY MIND, I THINK HOW IN THE WORLD COULD YOU GET $30,000 BEHIND? LIKE, LIKE I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF, IN MY ELECTRICITY, THAT'D BE QUITE A FEW MONTHS.
THAT COULD BE SOMEBODY THE MEDICAL CONDITION TOO.
WELL THAT'S THE THING IS THAT BJ HAS EXPLAINED BEFORE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.
IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION, RIGHT.
WE CAN'T, WHICH WE SHOULDN'T, BUT WE CAN'T, UH, DISCONNECT SERVICE SO THEY CONTINUE TO USE IT AND THAT'S WHERE THE BILL CAN BE.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNEW THAT.
I'VE GOT EDUCATED ON THAT A FEW YEARS AGO.
THAT'S HOW SOME OF THESE GOT TO BE HIGHER, RIGHT? SOME OF THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT EJ IF YOU KNEW OFF YOUR HEAD.
I MEAN THAT, I KNOW THEY'RE RIGHT HERE, BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE COMMERCIAL.
SOME OF THESE ARE HAVE BE COMMERCIAL.
LIKE ONE YEAR WE HAD A RECURRING COMMERCIAL ONE.
THAT ALSO WAS FILLED WITH MEDICAL PEOPLE.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THOSE THAT ARE COMMERCIAL, IS THERE A DIFFERENT MITIGATION PROCESS? THEY'RE NOT OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER ANYMORE.
WE THAT SET OFF, WE GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR AVENUES FOR COLLECTION, BUT UM, YEAH, THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE AVENUE, UH, COMMERCIAL.
THE COMMERCIAL, THE COMMERCIAL, UH, ACCOUNTS DO HAVE HIGHER DEPOSITS OBVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT, UH, AND AGAIN, THAT IS A, IT'S A HARD, IT'S A HARD LINE TO, TO WALK WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING ON DEPOSITS.
WE COLLECT DEPOSITS ON ALL COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS.
UM, BUT AT WHAT POINT DO YOU RAISE THAT UP? AND IT AFFECTS THE BUSINESS FROM OPENING.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ENCOUNTERING BEFORE HAVING SUCH A HIGH DEPOSIT THAT IT WAS HARD FOR THE BUSINESS TO ESTABLISH THE ACCOUNT.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY, I'M SURE YOU GUYS COULD DO THE MATH YOURSELF, BUT SO IN FOUR YEARS, IF THIS PASSES, WE'RE LOOKING AT 160, $170,000 WORTH OF DEBT THAT THE TOWN IS WRITING OFF OVER UTILITY ACCOUNTS NOT BEING PAID.
ON $30 MILLION OF THEIR ON A 30.
NO, BUT, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT THOUGH, $130,000 COULD, YOU KNOW, COULD DO QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, ON OUR BUDGET TOO, BUT, UM, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULD BE ENTERPRISE LINES ANYWAY.
ENTERPRISE, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN THE LEGISLATURES EVEN MAKING SOME MORE CHANGES THAT COULD MAKE THIS EVEN BE WORSE IF YOU ASK ME.
ANYBODY ELSE? WE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT ON ANOTHER DAY.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? ALRIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THREE C, UM, WHICH IS THE FY 24 BUDGET AMENDMENT AND TRANSFER FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
SO I'LL START OFF BY SAYING THAT I DID MAKE A MISTAKE ON THIS.
I PROCEED, UH, MR. TO MAKE CAMPAIGN FINDING THAT FOR ME THERE, THE, UH, ON THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS TO STREET FUND, UH, THAT AMOUNT SHOULD BE $505,000, SAYS 515,000, UH, SHOULD BE $505,000.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING HERE IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT COME IN, I DO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REQUEST THAT THOSE, UH, FUNDS BE DIVERTED OVER.
UM, RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS TO DIVERT THOSE FUNDS, UH, FOR $30,000, UH, TOWARDS, UH, GENERAL PROPERTIES BUILDING AND STRUCTURES FOR SECURITY, UM, WORK DONE HERE FOR TOWN HALL OF THIS BUILDING, AND THEN THE REMAINING $505,000 TO BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE STREET FUND FOR PAVING.
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THOSE REVENUES ARE COMING FROM, UH, IS $140,000, UH, FROM PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, WHICH IS A, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, UH, THE BUSINESS, UH, PROFESSIONAL OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING, $70,000.UH, WE DID HAVE, UM, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A PUSH ON SOME, UH, PAST DUE BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COLLECT ON, UH, FOR THERE.
AND THEN MEALS TAX REVENUE IS COMING IN $60,000 OVER AND THEN FINES AND FORFEITURES, UH, FROM, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, $85,000.
AND THEN INTEREST ON BANK DEPOSITS, IT BEING A BIG ONE FOR $180,000.
EVERYONE'S SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE INTEREST RATES.
UH, WERE REAPING THE BENEFITS, UH, FROM THAT.
UH, SO, UM, THE, UH, $535,000, UH, IN TOTAL, UH, SAY $30,000 GOING TO BUILDING AND STRUCTURES AND THEN A BUDGET TRANSFER TO SEND, UH, $505,000 OVER TO A I TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.
AND I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE IT BACK THIS YEAR.
I KNOW IT'S, WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE WITHOUT JOE HERE TO REALLY SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I, I THINK BACK TO OUR BUDGET AND WELL, I THINK BACK TO OUR PLANNING SESSION, OUR GOAL SETTING AND WHAT THIS COUNCIL SAID THEY WANTED TO SEE ACCOMPLISHED.
AND WE DID TALK ABOUT A TAX INCREASE AND THE LACK OF A TAX INCREASE WOULD, UH, PROHIBIT US FROM DOING SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO.
NOW WE FIND, UM, 500 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EXTRA MONEY.
UM, I WOULD SUBMIT TO COUNSEL THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER 175,000 GOING TOWARDS SIDEWALKS, STARTING AT THE CENTER OF THE TOWN AND PUTTING TOGETHER A SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER 200,000 FOR BLIGHT DERELICT BUILDINGS THAT COULD BE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT IF WE GET RID OF SOME OF THIS BLIGHT AND THEN WE REDEVELOP THE LOTS OR HAVE A, NOT WE DEVELOP 'EM, BUT WE SELL THEM TO DEVELOPERS TO PUT HOUSING ON IT OR USE IT FOR TOWN INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I THINK IN LIGHT OF EVERYTHING GOING ON RIGHT NOW, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WAS AN ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT WE COULD PUT OUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT IS, BUT UP TO 125,000 FOR AN ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER WOULD BE SKILLED, UH, HAVE A SKILL SET DIFFERENT THAN OUR CURRENT ONE.
BECAUSE THAT WAY WE WOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STRENGTH.
FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HIRED A, A CIVIL ENGINEER, WE DON'T HAVE ONE ON STAFF, NOW WE HAVE ONE.
AS WE DEVELOP, WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JOE'S NO SPRING CHICKEN AND EVENTUALLY HE WANTS TO RETIRE.
WHEN DO YOU START GROOMING THAT PERSON? WE ARE A $50 MILLION A YEAR, UM, ENTERPRISE HERE COMPANY AND, UM, NOT TO HAVE A SECOND IN COMMAND TRAINING AND TO HAVE SOME ASSET BACKING THERE, I THINK, UH, LEAVES IT'S VULNERABLE.
UM, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY SUBMIT TO COUNSEL THAT WE CAN CONSIDER, UM, TAKING THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF DOING ADDITIONAL PAVING, PERHAPS, UH, TRY TO SUCCEED IN SOME OF OUR GOALS THAT WE CAME OUT OF OUR GOAL SETTING WITH.
SO COUNSEL, I KNOW HOW, UM, I, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS.
THE, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION.
I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER BETTER ONE.
SO THIS MONEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED BEFORE JUNE 30TH, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.
AND SO I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, SO THIS 'CAUSE ORIGINALLY, WELL ANYWAY, WHAT THE, GO AHEAD.
THE OTHER OPTION IS, IS IF NOTHING HAPPENS, THAT OBVIOUSLY ROLLS UNDER THE FUND BALANCE, THEN WE'RE JUST TAKING IT OUT FUND BALANCE.
WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT COUNSEL COULD HAVE SOME TIME TO, YOU KNOW, TO PERCOLATE WHAT COUNCILMAN WOOD SAID.
BUT IN JANUARY, BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY AND REALLY EVEN IN MARCH, WE WERE STILL PUTTING TOGETHER OUR GOALS, VISION, MISSION, AND OUR ACTION PLAN, UM, ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND I KNOW THAT EVEN IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AS WE WERE DISCUSSING THEM, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF THOSE THINGS WERE GONNA TAKE MONEY.
UM, AND WHEN WE WERE, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET AND TAX INCREASES, NO TAX INCREASES.
WE ALL, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE WAS A
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CONSENSUS TO NOT RAISE TAXES IN, IN, IN THIS TIME WITH INFLATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.BUT THIS, THIS MONEY COULD POSSIBLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE GOALS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT PAY FOR ALL OF IT OBVIOUSLY, OR MAYBE EVEN NOT PAY FOR ALL OF ONE PARTICULAR THING, BUT IT WOULD BE MY, THAT COULD BE SET ASIDE TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THESE GOALS.
SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF IT.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GONNA HARP BUT NOT HARP ABOUT IT, BUT SAY SOMETHING, WE STILL NEED MORE.
UH, WE'RE SHORT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE STILL NEED MORE OFFICERS.
I THINK SOME OF THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO SOME OF THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE SHORT CAPTAIN, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE SHORT NOW, UH, WE SAY EIGHT, NINE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THOSE IN AND THEY, THEY STILL NEED MORE AT.
WE REALLY HAVE AN ADDED OF WHAT THREE THAT RIGHT BJ SOUNDS THAT SOUNDS CORRECT.
I MEAN, KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE TOWN'S GROWING AND YOU KNOW, THEY NEED MORE OFFICERS ON EACH SHIFT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE SOME OF THAT FOR THAT.
WELL, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID.
I WILL SAY THIS, AND THIS WAS THE ONLY THING WHEN, UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD, UM, IS THE ONLY PART ABOUT THAT PART IS, IS THAT IF WE TAKE THIS MONEY AND SET IT ASIDE FOR SALARIES, THE ONLY PART, THE, THE TRICKY PART OF THAT IS THEN YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND WE WOULDN'T, WE DON'T NECESSARILY WON'T HAVE IT.
SO THAT'S WHY US, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I KNOW IT'S ONLY EXTRA.
I UNDERSTAND THIS YEAR IT'S ONLY EXTRA THIS YEAR.
AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY, UM, OBSTACLE WITH TAKING ANY MONEY THAT THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, EXTRA REVENUES THAT WE WEREN'T ACCOUNTED FOR.
IF WE TURN THOSE INTO SALARIES, THEN THE SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS ARE COMMITTED AND, AND IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING WHERE WE SAY, BUT NEXT YEAR IF IN MAY WE DON'T HAVE IT, THEN WE WOULDN'T.
IF IT JUST STARTS BACK DOWN, IF WE, BUT IF WE USED IT FOR THINGS THAT ARE EITHER A ONE TIME PURCHASE OR A FUND THAT STARTS YOU SOMETHING GOING, THEN THE NEXT YEAR YOU EITHER ADD TO IT OR YOU DON'T ADD TO IT.
SO I, I DON'T WANNA DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE OFFICERS AND I ALSO DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT POSSIBLY MORE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, BUT LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY PART ABOUT THAT IS, IS THAT IF YOU COMMIT THOSE TWO POSITIONS THAT HAVE BENEFITS, THEN YOU THEN YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO COMMIT TO THAT IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY SET OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR AND IT WOULDN'T INCLUDE THOSE.
SO YOU'D, YOU'D BE, YOU'D BE CROSSING YOUR FINGERS THAT THAT NEXT MAY WE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO, TO COVER THOSE POSITIONS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I EXPLAINING IT CORRECTLY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WAS SO OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THAT? WELL, WHO SAID, UH, COUNCILMAN WOODS COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE ASSISTANT TO OUR MANAGER SLASH ENGINEER, I MEAN, WOULD BE A VERY VALUABLE AS WE HAVE FOUND OUT, UH, UH, WITH CERTAIN SITUATIONS, UH, HAVING THAT EXPERTISE, UH, AND UH, PROJECTS, UM, WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE KEEPING ON THE WATCH LIST.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THOUGHTS THOUGH? WHAT ABOUT, UM, SETTING AND ASIDE FOR SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, GOALS THAT WE HAD THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, INFRASTRUCTURE WALKABILITY OR THE, THE OTHER, WE, WE PUT IT ALL UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT MR.
UM, AND THAT IS ON THE HORIZON FOR HIM.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'S BEEN KEEPING IN MIND AND WORKING TOWARDS.
JOSH AND I ACTUALLY GOT TO ATTEND AND ACTUALLY, OR SORRY, COUNCILMAN INGRAM AND COUNCILMAN, HE DO PAY WITH WHO WE SURVEY ENGINEERING, OUR CONTRACT SURVEYING AND ENGINEERING TO NOW THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY, BUT I KNOW THAT'S ON HIS HORIZON.
I ALSO KNOW 125,000 IS NOT GOING TO FUND THAT FOR MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER FORMALLY AND MY TIME COUNSEL, UM, IT'S A COMPETITIVE MARKET OUT THERE FOR ENGINEERS.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF UM, SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMAN WOOD SAID WITH THE BLIGHT AND DERELICT BUILDINGS, BUT INSTEAD OF ALLOCATING THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLES THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT THE WAY THAT WE DO THAT, SINCE WE ARE NOT PROPERTY MANAGERS AND WE ARE NOT DEVELOPERS AND THAT'S
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NOT THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN, WE ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO FRIDA, I THINK THAT WE'VE LOOKED FOR A LONG TIME SINCE FRIDA WAS PROPPED UP IN 2019 OR WHENEVER IT STARTED TO BEGIN.AND THE LEGISLATION HAD TO CHANGE FOR IT TO BECOME A THING.
WE HAVEN'T HAD FUNDS TO FUND FRIDA AND I THINK A ONE TIME FUNDING MECHANISM TO FRIDA WOULD GENERATE, UM, YEAR OVER YEAR REVENUE BACK TO THE TOWN AND DIVIDENDS IF WE DID IT APPROPRIATELY.
SO INSTEAD OF THROWING MONEY TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED ONE TIME AND DONE, I THINK IF WE FUND FRIDA AND YOU KNOW, LET THEM LOOSEN THE REINS AND GO TO WORK, THAT COULD CREATE, GENERATE REVENUE IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR AND ALL THE YEARS TO COME, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO FOR YOUR RIGHT.
WELL AND FOR THE TOWN, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS, THE, YOU KNOW, PURPOSE AND PREMISE BEHIND THAT IS THAT WILL REMISS BEHIND THAT IS THAT WE'LL GENERATE SALES TAX, MEALS, TAX, LODGING TAX, WHATEVER.
UM, SO THE TOWN WOULD GET MONEY BACK FROM THAT AS WELL.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID THAT IT WOULD BE A ONE TIME THING.
IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS YEAR MONEY THAT'S WHERE WE COULD THE MONEY FUND SOMETHING ONE TIME WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND THEN GET MONEY BACK FOR YEAH.
EVERY YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SPEND MONEY YEAR OVER YEAR.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A CONSENSUS OF THIS COUNCIL TO FUND FRIDA, UM, DURING OUR GOAL SETTING AS WELL.
WE ALL WANTED TO SEE THEM GET TO WORK AND YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY FITTING THAT THIS IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I MADE A COMMENT LAST MONDAY NIGHT THAT I THINK WAS MISCONSTRUED THAT WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF PRESERVATION, BUT PRESERVATION EQUALS REVITALIZATION.
SO IF WE PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO REVITALIZE IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, A END BESIDE US IS A GREAT, UM, OBJECT TO POINT TO FOR THAT.
UM, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO FULL FRUITION, IT'S GONNA BE A FANTASTIC PROJECT, BUT, UM, WE PRESERVED THE ADEN, I WAS A PART OF THAT SAVE THE ADEN CREW WITH THE BUMPER STICKERS AND ALL OF THAT, AND AS A RESULT WE'RE REVITALIZING IT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
SO I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO HONE IN ON THAT REVITALIZE OR DIE THAT I KNOW I ATTENDED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK AND WE HAVE SOME CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE DOING REALLY GREAT THINGS WITH REVITALIZATION.
SO I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO FUND FRIDA.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA GIVE ANY COMMENTS? BECAUSE MY OTHER THOUGHT IS, 'CAUSE WE KIND OF TOLD EVERYBODY THIS WOULD NOT BE A LONG ONE TONIGHT.
UM, AND THIS WAS KIND OF THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT, UM, TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME TIME TO THINK.
SO WE CAN KEEP DISCUSSING IT NOW OR WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO THE FIRST JUNE WORK SESSION TO SAY IF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD PEOPLE LIKE TO DO WITH THESE FUNDS TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I WOULD APPRECIATE JOE'S, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IF EVERYBODY, AND I'M, THAT DOESN'T MESS YOU UP, RIGHT? WE JUST NEED TO, WE EITHER NEED TO MAKE A DECISION BY JUNE 30TH IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE, OR IT CAN, WE CAN MOVE IT OVER INTO THE, WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE WITH THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO, WE'LL TRY TO GET OUR HEADS ON STRAIGHT BY THE, THE JUNE ONE.
SO ANYWAY, UM, BUT I I, I APPRECIATE, I THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY DISCUSSION AND, AND LIKE, UH, COUNCILMAN WOODS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OH, I AGREE.
TALKING ABOUT, UM, OUR GOALS AND, AND WE ALL WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE GOALS AND THEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT MONEY AND WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE THAT HAPPEN? SO THIS IS, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY AND THESE THINGS WOULDN'T COMMIT YOU TO SOME OF 'EM.
YEAH, WELL, YEAH, I GUESS IT DEPENDS.
WELL, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY WE SAY WE'RE GONNA PUT $200 TO FRIDA, $200,000 TO FRIDA, WE WOULDN'T BE COMMITTED TO THEN ALSO DOING IT NEXT YEAR.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IF WE HAD EXTRA MONEY AND WE WOULD CARRY IT FORWARD, IT WOULD BE, UH, RIGHT, THAT'S PURCHASE ORDER'S IS THAT WE'RE NOT TYING IT INTO THE BUDGET YET.
THIS WOULD BE TAKING THE MONEY AND DOING ONE TIME PER ONE TIME TYPES OF THINGS, OR ONE TIME FUNDING.
SO, WELL, THEY'RE A DEVELOPMENT GROUP, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, THEY HAVE THE BEST USE FOR SUSTAINABILITY RIGHT.
SO TH ITEM 3D IS THE FY 24 BUDGET AMENDMENT FINANCING AND PURCHASE FOR SINGLE AXLE VAC TRUCK, THE PLUS TRUCK, BACK TRUCK, THE, UH, SO IT'S, UM, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON HERE.
UH, WE HAVE A VML VACO, THEY'VE PUT A, UM, UH, THEY'VE HELPING US WITH THE PROCUREMENT, UH, FOR FINANCING FOR, UH, THIS VEHICLE.
WE DO HAVE FUNDS, UH, SET ASIDE IN, UH, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, UH, FOR PAYMENTS, UH,
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FOR THE FIRST PAYMENT ON THIS.MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SHORT, UH, MAKE UP A LITTLE GROUND ON THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, THIS, UH, WE'RE REPLACING A 1993, UH, FORD L 8,000, UH, UH, FLUSH BACK TRUCK.
IT'S MUCH BIGGER, UH, BUT THAT TRUCK CANNOT GET INTO PLACES THAT THIS LITTLE ONE CAN.
UM, WHEN THIS ONE BREAKS DOWN, WE, UH, DO HAVE TO RENT ONE.
UH, IT'S ABOUT $18,000 TO GO TO MARYLAND TO GET IT.
UM, AND UH, AS YOU SEE IT BEING IN 1993, THEY'RE STILL USING IT.
SO IT HAS, UH, UH, QUITE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY.
UM, SO I DO FEEL THAT THE $450,000, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT, WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF OVER THE TIME THAT WE'RE USING THE, UH, THE, UH, THE EQUIPMENT THERE.
UH, BUT IT WOULD CAUSE FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BRING IN THE LOAN FUNDS, UM, TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE EXPEND EXPENDITURE TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE, UH, THE VEHICLE, UH, APPROVING THE FINANCING.
LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, BIDS BACK ON THAT LATER THIS WEEK.
I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL INTEREST RATES.
BANKS DON'T WANNA HOLD THE RATES THAT LONG, SO THIS IS THE MOST THAT I, UH, CLOSEST THAT I COULD GET IT, UH, FOR THERE.
WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, ESTIMATES, UH, FROM VML VACO INCLUDED WITH THE PACKET HERE, UH, FOR THE FINANCING ON THAT AND THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, TO BRING IN THOSE FUNDS.
UM, EJ, WOULD THIS BE ON THE MAY 28TH, UH, AGENDA? I MEAN TO TAKE ACTION ON IT? YES, CORRECT.
SO BETWEEN NOW AND MAY 28TH, YOU'D BE ABLE TO TELL US THE YEAH, ONCE I INTEREST RATE, I CAN EMAIL OUT THE INTEREST RATES AS SOON AS I GET 'EM.
IT SHOULD BE, LIKE I SAY, LATER THIS WEEK.
I THINK ACTUALLY TOMORROW, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, TOMORROW IT SAID THE 14TH, WHICH IS TOMORROW, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW.
YEAH, IT CLOSES, BUT I PROBABLY WON'T RECEIVE IT FROM VACO UNTIL WEDNESDAY.
UM, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FORWARD THAT ON, UM, AND IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET AS WELL.
UM, SOMETHING I DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT THE SINGLE AXLE VAC TRUCK IS ON COOPERATIVE CONTRACTING, UH, WITH THE, UH, ATLANTIC MACHINERY AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN STOCK, WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE IN ALL HONESTY,
SO, SO WE REALLY, WE NEED TO MM-HMM,
YES, IT, IT'S, UH, UH, ALL THE STARS SEEM TO BE ALIGNING IF THIS PROCUREMENT OF THE FINANCING COMES BACK WITHIN REASON.
UM, SOMEBODY ELSE HAS PROBABLY TRIED TO GET IT TOO, BUT ANYWAY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA STILL KEEP THE, UM, THE 6 68? NO, WE WILL AUCTION THAT.
UH, THE 6 64, UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE NO, THAT YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE THERE.
UM, AND THE LARGER FLUSH TRUCK BREAKS DOWN.
UH, THE, UM, UH, WE WOULD, UH, UH, THE 1993 FLUSH TRUCK, WE WOULD SELL, UH, WE, UH, PUT ON ON GOV DEALS AND, AND SELL THAT FOR WHATEVER WE WOULD GET OUT OF IT.
YOU USE A SMALL TRUCK ALL THE TIME? UH, NO.
THE, THE LARGER TRUCK WE'RE GONNA KEEP, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LARGE ONE AND A SMALL ONE.
UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU GOTTA FORGIVE ME ON THIS.
UM, THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO USE THE BIGGER ONE.
THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO USE THE SMALLER ONE.
UM, SMALLER ONE CAN GET INTO AREAS THE BIGGER ONE CANNOT, UH, THE BIGGER ONE CAN OBVIOUSLY HANDLE THE BIGGER SITUATIONS.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT, UH, DON ACTUALLY MENTIONED LIKE ONE PARTICULAR PLACE, UM, THAT, THAT THE BIG TRUCK WON'T GO IN.
HE SAID IT IN THERE, I THINK IT WAS TO BE NEAR, DOWN NEAR WHERE THE VFW WAS.
HE SAID, UH, SOME AREAS IN THE, I KNOW THERE'S A, A COUPLE OF OTHER AREAS, BUT I'M, BUT HE NAMED, BUT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IT.
I DO KNOW THERE'S A NEED FOR THE BIGGER ONES AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO HOOK BOTH TRUCKS UP AT THE SAME TIME.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR THING? I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY INTEREST RATES.
UH, CAN YOU GIMME A TIMEFRAME OF WHEN, WHEN THEY, ARE THEY CURRENT? YES.
THIS, UH, I JUST RECEIVED THIS, UH, INFORMATION, THE PRELIMINARY INTEREST RATES JUST HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS RIGHT BEFORE THE AGENDA WENT OUT.
UM, SO THIS, UH, THAT'S THE, UH, THE BEST ESTIMATE, UH, PROVIDED BY VML VACO.
UM, SO FINGERS CROSSED THIS AND IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT I'D LIKE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN
WE COULD SAVE LIKE $31,000 OVER THE LIFE OF ONE.
SO WE TOOK A FIVE YEAR WE COULD.
SO, UM, MR. WILSON'S GONNA SEND OUT INFORMATION BETWEEN NOW AND THE 28TH C MEETING, SO THAT WE HAVE, YES, I'LL CERTAINLY SEND OUT THE, UH, THE ACTUAL FIGURES, UH, ONCE WE GET THE, THE BIDS BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
ALRIGHT, SO COUNCIL FOUR A IS THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO TOWN CODE CHAPTER 1 58 DASH SIX FOR ADOPTION BY REFERENCE OF THE STATE VEHICULAR LAWS, UH, AFFECTED JULY 1ST, 2024.
AND MR. SONO WAS GONNA PRESENT THAT AND HE'S NOT HERE.
SO I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE READ THROUGH THE SUMMARY AND I, AND I WILL JUST SAY, HAVING BEEN ON COUNCIL ENOUGH YEARS FOR US TO DO THIS, SO WHAT
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GENERALLY, I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, BUT WHEN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CHANGES THINGS, UM, THEN EVERY YEAR ON JULY ONE, WE HAVE TO, UH, BASICALLY ADOPT WHATEVER THEIR, UM, THEIR LAWS WE NEED TO YEAH.RE YOU KNOW, UM, AND REALLY THIS HAPPENS EVERY YEAR, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BE IN LINE WITH THE STATE.
SO, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I THINK IT'S PRETTY, I MEAN, WE JUST BASICALLY HAVE TO, SO IT'S NOT A, YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT AND WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT.
SO, AND WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T ADVERTISE IT FOR THE MAY 28TH, SO WE WILL GET THAT THING RIGHT UNDER THE WIRE ON JUNE 22ND BEFORE JULY ONE, RIGHT? MM-HMM,
SO IF NOBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, MEDIA ADJOURN.