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[I. CALL TO ORDER]
IS 7:00 PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE FRONT ROYAL FAMILY PLANT FRONT ROYAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS ORDER.APRIL 17TH, 2024 7:00 PM ON THE DOT, UH, MS. POTTER, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? HERE.
MADAM CHAIR, WHEN? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE OUR MICS ARE ON, IF THAT'S IMPORTANT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? MAYBE THEY'RE ON.
[III. ADDITION/DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA]
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS WE HAVE AFTER THE ROLL CALL IS THE ADDITION OR DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA.IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT SHOULD BE ADDED OR SUBTRACTED? UH, VICE CHAIR NER.
I MOVE TO AMEND TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO ADD ELECTION OF OFFICERS DUE TO CHAIRMAN DANIEL WELL'S RESIGNATION FROM THIS COMMISSION.
UH, IS, UH, THIS, UH, UH, MOTION REQUIRES UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
IS THERE UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADD THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA? AND IT WILL BE NEW ITEM EIGHT.
I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE AN EIGHT BY THE TIME WE GET THERE.
NEED A SECOND? MADAM CHAIR? I SECOND THE MOTION.
MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? VICE CHAIRMAN MARNER? YES.
[IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR MARCH 20TH MEETING? MOVE TO APPROVE.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
MS. POTTER, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER WOOD? YES.
AT THIS POINT WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS AND THE GROUND RULES OF ENGAGEMENT FOR THE CITIZEN.
COMMENTS ARE THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA.
THE CITIZEN COMMENTS SHALL SIGN IN WITH THE CLERK PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING, AND SPEAKERS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE CHAIRMAN.
THIS PORTION OF THE, UH, MEETING IS ONLY FOR ITEMS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT EVEN SO, UH, PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AT THEM, UH, NEED TO FOLLOW CERTAIN RULES OF DECORUM AND, UH, UH, COURTESY AND, UH, SPEAK OF MATTERS PERTAINING TO PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CITIZEN COMMENT SECTION? HEARING NONE,
[VI. CONSENT AGENDA]
WE SHALL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, PROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
WE NEED A SECOND BEFORE WE CAN DISCUSS.
UH, MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES.
AND THIS IS CONSENT TO ADVISE, UH, FOR A, A PUBLIC HEARING.
[VII. PUBLIC HEARING]
WILL OPEN OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND THE RULES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.UM, THIS, THE ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE AS FOLLOWS, THE ON EACH ITEM FOR EACH APPLICATION, THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICANT IS INVITED TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT.
AFTER THE APPLICANT GIVES HIS OR HER PRESENTATION, WE WILL THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENT SECTION.
AND ONCE ALL THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO DO SO, THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE WILL BE A PERIOD FOR APPLICANT REBUTTAL.
AND AT THAT POINT, UH, THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE A QUESTION OF EITHER THE APPLICANT OR ANY SPEAKER.
AND AT THAT POINT, UM, IF THAT'S, IF WE COME TO THAT, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE DIRECT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT TO THE APPLICANTS OR THE STAFF OR THE OTHER SPEAKERS.
UM, UH, ASK THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO CONFINE THEIR
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COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.AND WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR COMMENTS ALL PERTAIN TO THE ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION.
SO THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM NUMBER 2 4 0 0 1 9 3.
UH, REQUEST BY KAREN RENOSO FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 1400 OLD WINCHESTER PIKE IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP AS TWO OH A 12 DASH EIGHT DASH THREE.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED ARE TWO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
UM, WHO ON THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION? MR. WARE? EXCUSE ME.
MADAM CHAIR, DID WE SKIP OVER A VOTE OF LIBERATION? THAT WAS THE CONSENT AGENDA, WASN'T IT? THAT WAS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DWAYNE, COULD YOU, UH, BRING THAT UP PLEASE? WE DON'T WANNA LOOK AT JOHN PLEASANT AS THAT MAY BE.
IT'S NOT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE.
APPLICATION 24 0 0 1 9 3 1400 OLD WINCHESTER PIKE IS FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R TWO.
IT'S LOCATED THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD WIND WINCHESTER PIKE IN QUEENS HIGHWAY.
IT IS FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR THREE BEDROOMS FOR SIX PEOPLE.
AND THE APPLICATION WAS AMENDED, UH, AFTER THE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE WORK SESSION.
UH, A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ON THE NUMBER OF ROOMS, UH, BUT THAT WAS AMENDED TO THREE BEDROOMS FOR SIX PEOPLE.
UH, SITE APPLICATION WAS CONDUCTED ON MARCH 27TH AND WAS FOUND IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
OFF STREET PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN THE DRIVEWAY TO ACCOMMODATE THREE VEHICLES IN THE CARPORT AREA AND ADDITIONAL PARKING NEXT TO THE CARPORT.
SO IT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, APPLICATION.
INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE APPLICATION, A MANAGEMENT PLAN AND A SURVEY PLA OF THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THE APPLICATION IS IN, IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH TOWN CODE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME TO THE MIC.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN REVIEWING, UM, THE APPLICATION.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I AND MY DAUGHTERS HAVE BEEN SPENDING ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND, UH, HERE RENOVATING THIS PROPERTY.
AND IT'S BEEN A, UM, AWESOME PROJECT, UH, ALLOWS US TO GET OUR CREATIVE JUICES GOING AND, UM, YEAH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
UH, WE ENDED UP NAMING THE PROPERTY IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
UH, PLACE OF GRACE, WHICH IS MY, UH, 5-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER'S NAME.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
UH, IN THAT CASE, IT IS TIME TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NONE.
PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WILL BE CLOSED AFTER WE HAVE DISCUSSION.
IS THERE DISCUSSION AMONG, OH, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES THE ANYBODY SIGNED UP LIKE TO SPEAK? WE'RE VERY GENEROUS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP EVEN THOUGH WE ASK YOU TO.
NOW, NOW I CLOSED THE HEARING.
OKAY, NOW WE ARE READY FOR DISCUSSION AMONG THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, MADAM VICE CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION
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TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 1400 OLD WINCHESTER PIKE IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO ZERO A 12 DASH A DASH THREE.DISCUSSION MR. MATTHEW MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST STATE THAT, UM, AFTER LOOKING AT THIS MYSELF, UH, I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, BUT FOR OUR TOWN AND FOR OUR VISITORS.
THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ACCORDING TO THE STAFF AND THE PARKING, PLEASE? YES.
THE REVISION TO THREE BEDROOMS AND THE PARKING IS THERE.
AND THE PARKING IS MET ON THIS.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.
MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? VICE CHAIRMAN NER? YES.
AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS NUMBER 24 0 0 0 1 94.
THE APPLICANT IS SHORT STREET PROPERTIES LLC.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT AT 5 1 9 SHORT STREET IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO OH A EIGHT DASH 19 DASH SIX DASH NINE AND 10.
THE PROPERTY IS OWNED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UM, WOULD THE STAFF LIKE TO PRESENT THE CASE PLEASE? DWAYNE, WE NEED TO GET THE, THERE WE GO.
APPLICATION 24 0 0 1 9 4 SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR FIVE 19 SHORT STREET.
UH, THERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE REASON, UH, THIS IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS TOWN CODE 1 7 5 1 26 FOR DISCONTINUANCE.
IF A LEGALLY NONCONFORMING USE IS DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD EXCEEDING TWO YEARS AFTER THE ENACTMENT OF THIS CHAPTER, IT SHALL BE DEEMED ABANDONED AND ANY USE THEREAFTER SHALL CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER.
SO THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE.
IT HAS A, UH, FORMER RES OR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, UH, IN THE FRONT OF THE LOT AND A COMMERCIAL USE IN THE REAR OF THE LOT, UH, UNDER 1 75 39 B.
IN RESIDENTIAL FOR THE C ONE DISTRICT, THE FOLLOWING USES ARE PERMITTED WITH THE C ONE DISTRICT ONLY BY APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, APARTMENTS OR DWELLING UNITS WITH FOUR OR MORE OR WHERE LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
UH, SO ESSENTIALLY THE APPLICANT, THERE'S THE PLAT OF THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO RESTORE THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE AND USE THAT AS DWELLING UNITS ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.
OFF STREET PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN THE PAVED DRIVEWAY AND THE GRAVEL PARKING IN THE AREA IN THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, WHICH IS SUFFICIENT.
INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET ALSO IS THE APPLICATION, THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE RENOVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE SURVEY PLAT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE GIS UH, LINES IS A LITTLE BIT OFF.
I THINK YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT ACCORDING TO THE PLAT, THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE IN QUESTION OVER THE APPLICATION IS ON THOSE LOTS.
SO, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE APPLICATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. WILLIAMS? MR. WOOD, NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT WITH THE APPLICANT? LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE COME FORWARD.
UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY BUYING THE PROPERTY AND WE JUST WANT TO PUT IT BACK TO A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE FOR DWELLING ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.
UM, ME AND MY WIFE WANNA REMODEL
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IT AND FIX IT BACK UP.UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GRADY? I I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. GRADY OR A QUESTION FOR MR. WARE AND MS. KAKI, BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY I, I LOOK AT THE, THE DESIGN, BUT I ALSO LOOK AT WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT, THAT ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED BEFORE THE FINAL PERMIT TO, UM, TO ALLOW RENTERS IN THERE OCCURS.
AM I MAKING ANY, AM I NOT MAKING SENSE? SO WE HAVE STAFF IS ADDED A CONDITION THAT HE WOULD NEED TO GET ALL OF HIS ZONING AND BUILDING PERMITS.
PRIOR TO US ISSUING THE FINAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THIS GOES TO COUNSEL.
IF THEY APPROVE IT, HE STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND THEN I DON'T SIGN THAT PIECE OF PAPER STATING HERE IS YOUR SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNTIL HE'S HAD HIS FINAL CO AND, AND GONE THROUGH ALL THOSE STEPS.
I I HOPE YOU RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION.
BUT MY THING IS FOR HER, I GUESS IF I GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND SPEND THE MONEY TO BUY IT AND DO IT AND I DO IT AS A DWELLING, CAN Y'ALL STILL DENY ME AS HAVING IT AS A DWELLING ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR? NO.
SO THE REASON WE HAD YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS NOW IS SO THAT YOU HAD THE APPROVAL OKAY.
IN HAND WHILE YOU, BEFORE YOU COMPLETED THE RENOVATIONS.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO DO THE RENOVATIONS IF YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE PROPERTY IN THAT WAY.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
WITH THE, UH, AND JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD GET THE, UH, PLAT BACKUP, PERHAPS YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL GARAGE IN THE VERY BACK? YES.
IT'S A COMMERCIAL GARAGE THERE NOW.
THEY RUN IT AS DEAL BUILD AUTOMOTIVE.
NOTICE WHEN I WENT BY AND LOOKED THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A, THERE WERE, I HAVEN'T BEEN BY THIS WEEK.
THERE WERE A LOT OF VEHICLES, A BOAT AND SUCH STORED BACK THERE.
I, THE GUY I'M BUYING IT FROM IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET THEM TO CLEAN IT UP BEFORE WE GO TO CLOSING.
WELL YOU KNEW WHERE I WAS COMING FROM.
UH, JUST THINK ABOUT A FAMILY AND CHILDREN AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S VEHICLES BACK THERE.
THE HEALTH CONCERN, THE SAFETY CONCERN.
I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. GRADY, ARE YOU PLANNING TO OCCUPY THIS YOURSELF OR RENT IT OUT OR MAKE IT INTO A SHORT, USE IT AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
SO YOU MAY BE MAKING IT INTO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ONCE YOU GET IT FINISHED.
NO, IT'LL BE LONG-TERM RENTAL.
WE'RE ACTUALLY BUYING THE APARTMENT BUILDING BESIDE IT, THAT HOUSE AND THE GARAGE ALL IN TOGETHER.
AND THEY'LL ALL BE LONG TERM RENTALS? YES.
IT'LL ALL BE YEAR LEASES LONG TERM.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER? I HEARING NONE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO PROCEED FROM THE COMMISSION.
I MOTION WE PROCEED TO APPROVE IT.
DO YOU HAVE THE LANGUAGE OF THE DRAFT MOTION IN YOUR NOTES? SO I'M MOVED THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROW OF TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 0 0 1 9 4 FOR A GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT LOCATED AT FIVE 19 SHORT STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, THE APPLICANT MUST OBTAIN UNNECESSARY ZONING AND BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE ALTERATION REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE APPLICANT MUST ESTABLISH THE USE PURSUANT TO OBTAINING AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT WITH WARREN COUNTY.
SECOND, IS THERE A DISCUSSION? I AM ALL FOR QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FRONT ROYAL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S QUALITY AND IT'S NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ANYBODY.
I JUST, I I WORK WITH FIVE TO 11 YEAR OLDS AT E WILSON MORRISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A LOT OF THEM LIVE IN DWELLINGS THAT ARE NOT QUALITY.
AND SO I HOPE YOU CAN RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND.
NO, I UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THAT.
I JUST, THAT'S NOTHING AGAINST YOU.
AND IF, IF, IF STAFF IS FINE WITH THAT, THEN, THEN I'M FINE.
ARE WE READY TO VOTE? MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER
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WILLIAMS? YES.UH, NEXT ITEM IS 24 0 0 0 1 99, UH, FROM MR. EDWIN WRIGHT.
A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT AT FIVE 14 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP 20 A SEVEN DASH NINE DASH B DASH 11 A 12 AND 13.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
JOHN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT THE CASE PLEASE? APPLICATION 24 0 0 1 99 SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR FIVE 14 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.
UM, THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT, UH, AG, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
THIS IS A DISCONTINUANCE 1 75 1 26.
IF A LEGALLY NONCONFORMING USE IS DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD EXCEEDING TWO YEARS AFTER THE ENACTMENT OF THIS CHAPTER, IT SHALL BE DEEMED ABANDONED AND ANY USE THEREAFTER SHALL CONFORM TO THE USE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER 1 75.
THE FOLLOWING USES ARE PERMITTED WITH THE C ONE DISTRICT ONLY BY APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, APARTMENTS OR DWELLING UNITS WITH FOUR OR MORE OR WHERE LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
OFF STREET PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN THE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE ONE VEHICLE.
THAT'S THE VIEW, UH, FROM SOUTH ROYAL STREET OF THE TWO STORY BRICK STRUCTURE.
AND A VIEW OF THE REAR INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE APPLICATION, THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE STRUCTURE, A SURVEY PLAT OF THE PROPERTY, AND, UH, THERE'S THE LAYOUT OF THE, UH, OF UNIT A OF THE BUILDING ALSO OF THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR GOES IN ONE DWELLING UNIT AND THEN THE BASEMENT FLOOR IS THE SECOND DWELLING UNIT.
UH, TOWN CODE REQUIRES TWO PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT.
UH, THERE'S A PLAT OF THE PROPERTY, FIVE 14 THERE ON THE LEFT, UH, ON THE PLAT.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED, UH, A PARKING PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIRED PARKING WITH, UH, TO MEET THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF TOWN CO.
THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A PARKING PLAN SINCE THE WORK SESSION, UH, THAT YOU REQUESTED.
UH, SO PARKING WILL BE ADDED TO THE REAR AND TO THE FRONT THERE FOR SIX TOTAL PARKING SPACES ON THEIR PROPOSED PLAN.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM TOWN STAFF? F IF, IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE.
BUT DID THEY, DID THEY SUBMIT A PLAN TO RENOVATE THAT BUILDING TO TURN IT INTO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR? THAT'S WITH THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WE'VE SHOWN THERE PREVIOUSLY.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY STEP, UH, MR. WARE AS I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE HAVE TO GET THE USAGE SET UP FIRST AND THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD COME BACK WITH THE FINAL PLAN YEAH.
FOR IF THEY'RE DOING RENOVATIONS TO THE INTERIOR.
AND ANY APPROVAL OF US WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON THEM FOLLOWING THROUGH ON WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED US WITH THE PARKING, THE USE YOU, YOU NEED TO ESTABLISH THE USE BEFORE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED.
AND THE OTHER, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT STUCK IF WE APPROVE THIS, THAT THERE'S A WAY FOR THE APPLICANT, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY WOULD, BUT FOR THEM TO BACK OUT OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PARKING FOR THAT TO BECOME A FINALIZED, THERE'S A, IT'S A CONDITION THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT A CONDITION IN OUR RECOMMENDATION.
YOU CAN REVIEW THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT IF YOU'D LIKE.
THERE ARE THREE CONDITIONS THAT TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
YOU PROBABLY NEED TO REVIEW THOSE.
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YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? HI, I'M EDWIN WRIGHT AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THESE APPLICATIONS.
IT'S, UH, BEEN A JOY TO WORK ON RENOVATING THESE PROPERTIES AND HELPING BEAUTIFY, UH, FRONT RAIL.
UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WRIGHT? I COULD NOT BE MORE GRATEFUL THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF PLACES THAT DESPERATELY NEED IT AND TURN 'EM INTO THE QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
OKAY, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND.
TO MOVE FORWARD, I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD, A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT RURAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 0 0 1 9 9 FOR A GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT LOCATED AT 5 1 4 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, THE APPLICANT MUST OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY ZONING AND BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE ALTERATION SLASH REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE APPLICANT MUST ESTABLISH THE USE PURSUANT TO OBTAINING AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT WITH WARREN COUNTY.
THREE, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE ADEQUATE OFF STREET PARKING TO BE INSPECTED BY STAFF PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
I WOULD ECHO WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS SAID ABOUT TAKING THESE DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS AND EYESORE OUR SOUTHERN ENTRANCE OF THE TOWN LOOKS SO, SO MUCH BETTER THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR FOLKS.
AND I WILL THIRD YOUR COMMENTS AND ASK MS. POTTER FOR A ROLL CALL.
AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS 2 4 0 0 0 200, ALSO BY MR. WRIGHT.
A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT AT FIVE 12 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE, EXCUSE ME, IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP 20 A SEVEN DASH NINE DASH B DASH NINE 10 AND 11.
THIS PROPERTY ALSO IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UM, MR. WARE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT THIS CASE APPLICATION 24 0 0 200 SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR FIVE 12 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.
IT IS IN THE C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY AGAIN IS A DISCONTINUANCE 1 75 1 26.
SO IT WAS A, IF A LEGALLY NONCONFORMING USE IS DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD OF SEEDING TWO YEARS AFTER THE ENACTMENT OF THIS CHAPTER, IT SHALL BE DEEMED ABANDONED AND THE USE THEREAFTER SHALL CONFORM TO USE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER.
AND AGAIN, 1 75 39 B FOR RESIDENTIAL.
AND THE C ONE CAN ONLY BE APPROVED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, APARTMENTS OR DWELLING UNITS WITH FOUR OR MORE, OR WERE LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
OFF STREET PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN FRONT OF THE DRIVEWAY OR IN FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE ONE VEHICLE.
A PARKING PLAN WAS SUBMITTED AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION ON APRIL 3RD.
INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE APPLICATION, THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE STRUCTURE AND A SURVEY PLA OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE'RE ON SOUTH ROYAL AND THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S THE, UH, THE ONE DWELLING UNIT, UNIT A AND UNIT B.
SO THEY WOULD ESTABLISH TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UH, THE SURVEY PLAN THAT'S FIVE 12, THE ONE ON THE CORNER AND THE PARKING PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED AFTER THE WORK SESSION.
UH, THE PARKING PLAN HAS SHOWING FIVE PARKING SPACES, UH, ON THEIR PARKING PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THAT, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL DURING THIS PROCESS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? CAN YOU SHOW US
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THE, UM, SLIDES AGAIN OF THE FRONT AND THE BACK? I JUST HAD A QUESTION.THAT'S THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
AND FOR CLARIFICATION, WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT THE GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT FOR THIS IS UNIT B ON THE BOTTOM THERE.
AND IS THAT THE ONLY, ARE WE APPROVING ONLY THE GROUND FLOOR OR ARE WE UNIT, OR ARE WE APPROVING BOTH UNITS? WELL, TECHNICALLY YOU'RE APPROVING BOTH, BUT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS TO ESTABLISH A DWELLING UNIT ON THE GROUND FLOOR LEVEL.
SO YEAH, WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? JUST TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN,
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE IS ANYBODY HERE IN THE, IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN.
HEARING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
AND A SECOND, I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 0 0 2 0 0 FOR A GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT LOCATED AT FIVE 12 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE CONTINGENT UPON THE FOLLOWING.
ONE, THE APPLICANT MUST OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY ZONING AND BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE ALTERATION SLASH REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE APPLICANT MUST ESTABLISH THE USE PURSUANT TO OBTAINING AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT WITH WARREN COUNTY.
AND THREE, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE ADEQUATE OFF STREET PARKING TO BE INSPECTED BY STAFF PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SECOND DISCUSSION, THE END TO MORE BLIGHT
I THINK MR. WRIGHT IS THE MOST POPULAR MAN AROUND THIS TABLE RIGHT NOW.
MS. POTTER, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER WOOD? YES.
APPLICATION BY CHRIS KING ARCHER.
A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 3 31 KERR FOOT AVENUE.
AND THIS IS ON THE TAX MAP, EXCUSE ME, 20 A SIX DASH SEVEN DASH NINE DASH ONE AND TWO.
NOW THIS PROPERTY IS IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONED R ONE.
APPLICATION 24 0 0 2 0 1 SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR 3 3 1 CURWOOD AVENUE.
IT IS IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL OF A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WITH FOUR BEDROOMS FOR EIGHT PEOPLE.
OFF STREET PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN THE DRIVEWAY TO ACCOMMODATE THREE VEHICLES.
CONDUCTED A SITE INSPECTION ON APRIL 15TH, AND THE STRUCTURE WAS FOUND IN COMPLIANCE.
INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE APPLICATION, THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND A SKETCH DRAWING AND THE PLAT OF THE PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? OF COURSE.
DOES THIS MEET OUR CURRENT, UH, PARKING ORDINANCE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS? SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER BEDROOM ON SITE.
THEY ON ONSITE OFF STREET PARKING.
THEY HAVE FOUR BEDROOMS WITH THE APPLICATION AND THREE AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES OFF SITE.
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THANK YOU.THE APPLICANT PRESENT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COME AND SPEAK.
PLEASE, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
UM, MY NAME IS CHRIS ARCHER, 3 3 1 KER FOOT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE APPLICATION.
UH, OUR PLAN FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL IS TO RENT IT TO A FAMILY, UM, SORT OF JUST A EITHER ONE FAMILY OR, UH, MAYBE, UM, WITH GRANDPARENTS.
SO JUST REALLY A NOT MULTIPLE PARTIES, JUST A SINGULAR SORT OF, UM, UH, RENTAL FOR THE SHORT TERM.
AND SO THAT WOULD MEAN I, WE WOULDN'T EXPECT MULTIPLE VEHICLES TYPICALLY ONE OR TWO.
IS IT SAFE TO PRESUME YOU HAVE A OCCUPANT IN MIND? I'M SORRY YOU HAVE AN OCCUPANT IN MIND? UM, NO.
SO WITH REGARDS TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THERE'S A, UM, THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SCREEN YOUR, UM, GUESTS AND THERE'S, THERE'S OPTIONS OF HAVING INSTANT BOOKING AND THEN THERE'S OPTIONS OF REQUESTING BOOKING.
SO YEAH, WE DO HAVE A APPLICANT IN MIND AND IT'S TYPICALLY THIS, THIS HOME OR THIS, UH, RENTAL IS, UM, SORT OF GEARED TOWARDS, UH, FAMILIES, UM, VISITING THE AREA FOR WEDDINGS, UM, UH, FAMILY EVENTS, GRADUATIONS FOR THE COLLEGE AND ALSO FOR THE LEAF SEASON.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. KING ARCHER? OKAY, THANK YOU MR. ARCHER.
UM, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS POINT.
HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON AND, UH, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION PLEASE AND A SECOND SO WE MAY DISCUSS IT.
WOULD A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY.
I, UH, MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2 4 0 0 2 0 1 FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 3 31 FER AVENUE DUE TO INSUFFICIENT OFF STREET PARKING.
IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND DISCUSSION.
AND IN LOOKING AT, UNLESS I'M LOOKING AT NO, I'M LOOKING AT IT YET.
UM, IS THERE A WAY TO, AND THIS WOULD INVOLVE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE, BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT THE PARKING THAT IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, TO ADD PARKING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT VEHICLE THERE? WOULD THEY, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO DO THAT? DO YOU WANNA GET THAT PICTURE UP ON SCREEN? CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK AND ASK IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE? CAN THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME BACK? YES, PLEASE.
JOHN, CAN YOU GET THE PHOTO UP SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE WHAT, UH, SO LET, MY QUESTION IS, AS I'M LOOKING AT THE VEHICLE THAT'S IN THE PARKING LOT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE THERE IS TO THE LE WELL, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT TO THE LEFT FROM THE CAR WOULD LOOKING AT WOULD BE THE RIGHT, BUT IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE THERE FOR YOU TO CREATE TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES OR AT LEAST ONE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT TOWN HAS REQUIRED? I BELIEVE IT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.
I'M JUST, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO, UM, THERE, THERE IS A PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US THAT HAS NO PARKING ON SITE AND, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT, UM, THE, I GUESS THE CONSISTENCY AND APPROVALS.
YEAH, SO I, I I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THE PROPERTY ACROSS.
I DON'T, SO I CAN, I CAN EXPLAIN THAT.
SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS EACH APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND APPLY.
IF YOU DON'T MEET TOWN OR OUR CODE STAFF CAN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
HOWEVER, THIS BODY, THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL.
TOWN COUNCIL THEN MAKES THE FINAL DECISION AS TO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THEY WOULD LIKE TO REQUIRE.
SO IN THAT INSTANCE, THIS BODY MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, BUT COUNSEL DECIDED TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT
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ADEQUATE PARKING.ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR EXPLAINING.
WELL, COUNSEL HAS THE ABILITY TO OVERRULE THEIR OWN ORDINANCE.
WE'RE WE ARE APPOINTED BODY, WE LOOK AT THE RULES, REGULATIONS, AND THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN BASED ON THAT, UM, HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES IN A SIMILAR SITUATION BEEN APPROVED? YES.
SO I, I APOLOGIZE FOR IT, BUT IT'S HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS SOMETIME UNTIL COLLECTIVELY COUNCIL, UM, CAN COME TO, UM, A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION ON PARKING ORDINANCES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I FEEL LIKE OUR HANDS ARE TIED, BUT COUNCIL'S VERY WILLING, OR AT LEAST THEY SEEM TO BE, UM, TO ACCEPT THE FACT YOU HAVE ON STREET PARKING.
SO THE DENIAL FROM US, AND I'M SPEAKING COLLECTIVELY, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOD OR BAD.
IT'S A WORD IN THE ORDINANCE HOW MUCH PARKING PER BEDROOMS YOU HAVE.
I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T READ LIPS VERY WELL.
YOU CAN, WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THIS.
THE PROBLEM IS, I, I HAVE A PROBLEM RULING AGAINST OUR TOWN STAFF, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE OFF STREET PARKING AND, AND AGAIN, TOWN COUNCIL MAY, MAY SAY IT'S OKAY.
MY, MY MY, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAS HOW DO, HOW DO WE HELP YOU BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH YOUR PROPERTY? AND IF IT MEANS YOU GETTING SOMEBODY TO PUT A CONCRETE PAD OVER THERE TO ADD ONE MORE, ONE MORE PARKING SPACE, THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE WOULD YOU HAVE THE MEANS AND BE WILLING TO DO THAT? AND IF SO, YOU KNOW, I, I STILL WOULD HAVE TO VOTE TO FOR DENIAL RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THERE WOULD BE A WAY OUT FOR THAT.
WELL, IF I MAY PLEASE ON IT, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, YOU COULD OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND IF YOU GET A SECOND, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IN THE NATURE OF APPROVAL ON THE CONDITION THAT AN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE BE PROVIDED.
MAY I DO THAT NOW? WELL, WHEN WHEN THE DISCUSSION IS COMPLETE AND, OH, SORRY.
I MEAN, I SUPPOSE YOU COULD, BUT THANK YOU.
LET'S PUT EVERYBODY MR. SUMMIT.
WELL, THE AMENDMENT, EVERYBODY WOULD BE BEFORE A VOTE ON THE CURRENT MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.
BUT THE AMENDMENT, OR IF IT'S OFFERED, WHICH WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND.
ANY OTHER, ANY DISCUSSION BE BEFORE WE, WE AMEND IT WITH ONE THING.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE DON'T NEED TO AMEND IT WITH OTHER THINGS.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS CASE? I THINK THE PARKING IS THE MAJOR ISSUE DEFINITELY.
YEAH, THAT I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE.
ALTHOUGH WE, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CODE AS, AS MR. WOOD JUST EXPLAINED, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CODE, THE LETTER OF THE LAW, THE SPIRIT, THE TOWN COUNCIL GETS TO DO THE SPIRIT.
BUT YOU WISH TO PLAY A SUB SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 0 0 2 0 1 FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 3 31 CUR FOOT AVENUE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OFF STREET PARKING.
SECOND, UH, MR. SONNET, DOES THIS REPLACE OUR PREVIOUS MOTION? RIGHT, THIS, THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION'S NOW ON THE FLOOR.
SO BY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SONNET.
IF THIS MOTION PASSES, ARE WE REQUIRING THE APPLICANT AND THE TOWN COUNCIL ACCEPTS IT? IS THE APPLICANT THEN REQUIRED TO PUT IN A CONCRETE PAD FOR A THIRD PARKING SPACE, WHEREAS IF WE DON'T PASS THIS MOTION BUT PASS THE PREVIOUS MOTION, THE TOWN COUNCIL COULD OVERRIDE US AND APPROVE IT AS IT IS.
SO ARE WE IN FACT, MAKING LIFE EASIER OR MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE APPLICANT IF WE PASS THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION? CAN I ADD SOMETHING ON A PREVIOUS SUP UM, SHORT TERM RENTAL? I BELIEVE ALONG THE SAME STREET, THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE ADDITION OF A PRIVACY FENCE THAT THE NEIGHBOR HAD RECOMMENDED THE COUNCIL AND THEIR INFINITE WISDOM DECIDED THAT WASN'T NEEDED, SO THEY APPROVED IT.
I I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IF IT'S OKAY.
SO PRIVACY FE FENCE IS NOT A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR AN SUP.
IT, IT THAT WAS GENERATED BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
I, IF I'M AT LIBERTY IN THAT FOUR SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS APPLICATION BY
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CODE, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THREE, BUT THE POSSIBILITY IS THERE FOR A FOURTH AND SO YES, THAT COULD BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT A, A FOURTH ONSITE SPOT BE PROVIDED.AND AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT COUNCIL, I'LL, UH, ALL BETS ARE ALL I'LL LEAVE THE, YEAH.
HEARING NONE MS. POTTER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL VICE CHAIRMAN MARNER? YES, I THINK WE'RE HELPING THE APPLICANT.
IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY, OUR NEXT ONE IS 2 4 0 0 2 0 7 A REQUEST BY CCC ENTERPRISES, LLC OF VIRGINIA.
A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO CONVERT A THREE STORY MOTEL INTO A THREE NINE UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING LOCATED AT 10 SOUTH COMMERCE AVENUE.
THIS IS IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP 20 A EIGHT DASH 22 DASH SIX, AND THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
MR. WARE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT PLEASE? APPLICATION 24 0 0 2 0 7 SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR 10 SOUTH COMMERCE AVENUE.
IT IS LOCATED IN THE C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT, UH, TOWN CODE 1 75 39 B RESIDENTIAL.
THE FOLLOWING USES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE C ONE DISTRICT ONLY BY APPROVAL WITH SPECIAL USE PERMIT, APARTMENT OR DWELLING UNITS WITH FOUR MORE UNITS OR WHERE LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 1 7 5 1 13 APARTMENTS.
A COUPLE VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY, THE BAYMONT, UH, MOTEL THREE STORY UNIT, UM, ESSENTIALLY 34 ROOMS PER FLOOR CURRENTLY.
AND THE APPLICATION WISHES TO CONVERT THESE INTO 39 DWELLING UNITS OR APARTMENTS.
UH, SO THOSE ARE DWELLING UNITS AGAIN.
SO THEY HAVE, UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR 39 DWELLING UNITS WOULD REQUIRE TWO PER DWELLING UNIT, 78 PARKING SPACES INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
IS THE APPLICATION A FLOOR PLAN OF THE STRUCTURE AND A SURVEY PLAT OF THE PROPERTY? KEEP IN MIND TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICATION IS, IS THE USE APPROPRIATE? UH, THEY DID SUBMIT SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR THEIR GOAL OF THE PROJECT FOR INTERIOR RENOVATIONS, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.
UH, WE CAN GO OVER WHAT THEIR GOAL IS FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT TONIGHT'S APPLICATION IS THIS USE APPROPRIATE A CONVERSION OF THE HOTEL INTO APARTMENT BUILDING.
THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICATION IS BEFORE YOU, UH, A LITTLE RENDERING THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THESE APARTMENTS MAY LOOK LIKE.
UH, THE COMMON SPACE AREA THERE PREVIOUSLY IS THE TYPICAL APARTMENT ROOM.
YOUR PACKET IS, UH, TWO OPTIONS FOR THE CONVERSION.
EACH FLOOR WOULD HAVE 13 APARTMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 39.
THEY WOULD DO A CONVERSION ALONG WITH APARTMENTS WITH THE CONVERSION.
AGAIN, ANOTHER PROCESS IS THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, BUT THAT IS NOT BEFORE YOU WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UH, THERE'S A FLOOR PLAN OF THE, UH, OPTION THAT THEY COULD, COULD, COULD CONSIDER FOR THE LAYOUT, UH, WITH A 30, UH, FOUR, UH, APARTMENT OR THE 39 TOTAL, UH, 13 PER FLOOR.
ONE RENDERING MAY HAVE, UH, NINE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS AND FOUR TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS PER FLOOR, OR THEY HAVE ANOTHER OPTION OF DOING A SEVEN ONE BEDROOM AND SIX TWO BEDROOMS. SO, UH, THEIR DESIGN HERE TYPICALLY IS NOT FOR, UM, TYPICALLY IS FOR, AGAIN, ONE BEDROOM, NOT FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS,
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YOU KNOW, NOT DESIGNED FOR HUSBAND AND WIFE AND THREE AND FOUR KIDS.THESE ARE BASICALLY FOR ONE BEDROOM OR TWO BEDROOM, UH, APARTMENTS.
UH, ESSENTIALLY FOR, UH, TYPICALLY LIKE WORKFORCE, YOUNG PROFESSIONAL HOUSING, UH, WHAT THEIR GOAL IS.
SO NOT FOR MULTIPLE MEMBERS IN ONE FAMILY LIVING IN THESE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
UH, THERE'S THE OTHER RENDERING OF THAT.
AND THERE IS A PLAT SINCE YOUR THE WORK SESSION.
THEY DID SUBMIT A PARKING PLAN, UH, TO, UH, ADD SOME PARKING, UH, TO THAT.
SO, BUT THEY'RE, UH, THEY HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARKING SPACES THERE.
SO TONIGHT'S APPLICATION IS JUST FOR THE CONVERSION OF THE STRUCTURE, NOT FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE STRUCTURE, CONVERSION OF AN A APART, UH, THE, UH, MOTEL TO, UH, APARTMENT GOING FROM THE, UH, 34 PER FLOOR TO 13 PER FLOOR FOR THE APARTMENTS.
BUT THEY DID SUBMIT THE RENDERINGS THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET FOR THEIR GOAL FOR THE PROJECT, TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THAT.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? TONIGHT'S IS FOR, IS THIS USE APPROPRIATE DURING NONE? THANK YOU.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, AND WOULD HE LIKE TO SPEAK OR THEY AS THE CASE MAY BE
I AM KYLE HOPKINS WITH FOURSQUARE ARCHITECTS.
I'M ONE OF, HI, I AM SAM SHARMA, ONE OF THE OWNERS.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, BASICALLY LOCAL OWNERS ARE TRYING TO TAKE AN OLD BUILDING THAT NEEDS SOME LOVE AND TURNING IN, TURN IT INTO AN ASSET FOR THE TOWN.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN 39 UNITS, UH, AIMED TO BE APPROACHABLE TO NORMAL WORKING FRONT ROYAL PEOPLE.
PRICES THAT ARE NOT TOO HIGH, BUT ALSO NOT TOO LOW.
UH, IT'S A GREAT LOCATION TO DOWNTOWN.
IT'S CREATING A MORE WALKABLE LIFESTYLE AND BUILDING IN ADDITIONAL CLIENTS FOR THE GREAT, UH, BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, WHICH I THINK IS AWESOME.
UH, THESE ARE DECENT SIZED UNITS.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SQUEEZE TOO MANY IN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY BIG, UH, WE ARE ELIMINATING TO ONE TO TWO BEDROOM OR ONE IN TWO BEDROOM UNITS, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE TAXING ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UH, AND WE ALSO HAVE LOTS OF AMENITIES INCLUDING A POOL, AMPLE GREEN SPACE, LAUNDRY, COWORKING, LOUNGE AREAS, STORAGE LOCKERS, AND AN ELEVATOR FOR A DA ACCESS OR ANYONE ELSE WITH MOVEMENT DIFFICULTIES.
UH, AND THEN FINALLY, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FOR THIS ONE, UH, BUT WE LOOKED AT PARKING AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE, I THINK THE, THE COMEBACKS FROM LAST TIME.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO PARK TWO SPOTS PER UNIT.
SO WE ARE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THAT WORK.
THEY'RE NINE BY 18 VERSUS THE 10 BY 20, UH, WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE I THINK, EVERYWHERE ELSE.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLAN AND, AND, UH, THE COMMISSION'S CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, WE TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NEVER REALLY BEEN DELINEATED, WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, I, I WILL SUBMIT TO YOU, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST IN YOUR PROJECT FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, BUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW IS THE TYPE OF TENANTS THAT YOU WILL HAVE THERE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE KNOW THAT THE TEACHERS COME HERE MAKING $50,000 A YEAR AND YOU GOT A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT, THAT'S GREAT.
YOUR FIREFIGHTERS, YOUR MT, YOUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE TOWNS TRYING TO HIRE SIX OF THOSE.
NOW, WHAT THEY DO NOT WANT IS THIS TO BECOME, UM, LOW RENTAL INCOME PROPERTY.
AND I, MY SENSE IS FROM YOUR RENDERING IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU, YOU DON'T DESIRE THAT EITHER, I BELIEVE.
BUT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU AS YOU MOVE FORTH IN THIS PROCESS, BE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IS THIS APPROPRIATE USE OR NOT? BUT I'M GIVING YOU HEADS UP AS FAR AS PEOPLE'S INTEREST IN THIS.
AND, UM, OF COURSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE MOVE FORWARD.
IS IT APPROPRIATE USE? I THINK IT IS, BUT I THINK THE SUPPORT TO PUSH YOU ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WILL DEPEND ON THE TYPE OF TENANTS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, NOT TRYING TO SAY ANY MORE THAN THAT, I CAN'T SUGGEST ANY MORE THAN THAT, BUT, UM, MOST DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES REALLY WOULD BE EXCITED TO HAVE POTENTIAL 78 MORE CUSTOMERS WALKING WITHIN A C DISTANCE.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR LOCAL TENANTS ONLY.
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THE WORKFORCE BEING THE KEY WORD THAT'S BEING USED FOR TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE, UM, AND EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESTAURANTS ON THE MAIN STREET, SHOULD THEY WANT TO LIVE ACROSS, YOU KNOW, SHORT COMMUTE TO WORK, NO PARKING NEEDED, NO CAR DRIVING NEEDED.WE ARE TRYING, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO REACH BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL SURROUNDING CITIES OR TO THE BIG CITIES, YOU KNOW, DOWN TOWARDS THE NOVA AREA.
WE'RE NOT ADVERTISING OVER THERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS LOCAL AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE FEEL FOR 39 UNITS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET 39 TENANTS.
UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN TOWN, SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AREAS.
SO HERE YOU LIVE AND YOU WALK ACROSS TO ALL THE AMENITIES, BE THEM, THE BANKS, THE RESTAURANTS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE HOSPITAL, WARREN, WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO US.
UM, A LOT OF THE PHYSICIANS ARE, UM, THERE.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, AS CLOSE FOR EVERYONE AS POSSIBLE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DOUBTS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING REALLY POSITIVE TO OCCUR THERE.
THE CONCERN, BECAUSE WE ARE WHO WE ARE AND WE ALL LOVE OUR TOWN TOO, IS THE POTENTIAL FOR WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN.
AND SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD SHARE THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNER'S CONCERN IN THAT AS WELL.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING REALLY AWESOME IS AS A SCHOOL TEACHER RIGHT.
I WOULD SAY TOO, JUST, I MEAN APPROACHABLE, UH, WE'RE USING APPROACHABLE, UH, FOR, FOR RENTAL, UH, AFFORDABLE HAS A VERY CHALLENGING, UH, MEANING DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO, YOU SAY ONE THING, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT SOMEONE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC COULD HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH.
AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE SAYING APPROACHABLE AGAIN, KIND OF RIGHT IN THAT MIDDLE LEVEL THERE.
UM, AND THESE ARE FOR PEOPLE WORKING RIGHT? AND ACTUALLY BRINGING INCOME IN.
UM, IS IT YOUR INTENTION, LEMME TRY TO WORD THIS DIPLOMATICALLY.
IS IT YOUR INTENTION THAT YOU WILL HAVE TENANTS BY LEASE AND THAT THE TENANTS WILL PAY THEIR OWN RENT? YES.
UM, SO YEAH, WE ARE LOOKING FOR YEARLY LEASES.
UM, SO THEY WOULD BE THE ONE PAYING THEIR OWN.
SO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT HAPPEN, IT'LL BE A FORMAL PROCESS.
THE APPLICATION, THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, YOU KNOW, SECURITY DEPOSITS, THE STANDARD APARTMENT PROCESS WILL BE FOLLOWED.
SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, LESS TAXING ON TOWN, UH, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS FOR US.
SO YOU ARE NOT ANTICIPATING THIRD PARTY PAYMENTS OF RENT? NO, WE'RE NOT.
THAT'S GOOD TO GET, GET THAT CLEAR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, VERY GOOD.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? HEARING AND SEE? NONE.
AND IS THERE A MOTION FROM A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION? 92ND.
I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 0 0 2 0 7 FOR A 39 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING LOCATED AT 10 SOUTH COMMERCE AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE ADEQUATE OFF STREET PARKING PER 1 4 8 DASH EIGHT SEVEN PARKING AND LOADING AREAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND DISCUSSION CALL EVENT.
AND MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES.
AND NOW WE MOVE TO THE SECOND SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR CCC ENTERPRISES.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10 SOUTH COMMERCE IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP 20 A EIGHT DASH 22 DASH SIX TO REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FROM TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES PER UNIT TO ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE PER UNIT, A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACE SIZE FROM 10 BY 20 TO NINE BY 18, AND A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED PARKING AREA SETBACK OF 30 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINES.
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THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.MR. WARE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN PLEASE? SO APPLICATION 24 0 0 2 0 8.
THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION FOR 10 SOUTH COMMERCE AVENUE.
UH, THE PROPERTY THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, ESSENTIALLY WITH THE CONVERSION OF THE LOT, UH, THE MOTEL INTO APARTMENTS THAT KICKS IN 1 75, 1 13 FOR APARTMENTS.
SO APARTMENTS DO REQUIRE PARKING SPACES 10 BY 20 IN SIZE.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO REDUCE THAT TO NINE BY 18, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN ALL OTHER USES.
SO WITH THE, UH, CONFIGURATION, UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING PARKING LOT THERE NOW, UH, WITH THE PARKING SPACES AND THOSE SIZE CURRENTLY, OR NINE BY 18 ONLY, THE APARTMENT PART OF THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES PARKING SPACES 10 BY 20.
SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE SIZE OF THE PARKING SPACES.
ALSO, IN THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, UH, THE REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE APARTMENT PART OF THE CODE REQUIRES THE PARKING SPACES BE 30 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT'S THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED WITH THE OFFSET OF 30 FEET.
SO THOSE PARKING SPACES BETWEEN THE RED LINE AND THE PROPERTY LINE, IF THIS WAS A NEW APARTMENT BUILDING, WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.
SO THIS IS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, UM, USED THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.
AND THERE THE, AS THE APPLICATION IS FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THAT THE PARKING CAN BE CLOSER THAN THE 30 FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR REDUCTION OF THE 10 BY 20 SPACES THAT'S REQUIRED BY APARTMENTS TO THE STANDARD PARKING SPACES OF NINE BY 18.
THAT'S REQUIRED FOR ALL OTHER USES.
UH, THEY DID SUBMIT AN UPDATED PARKING PLAN AFTER THE, UH, WORK SESSION.
THEY HAVE ADDED PARKING THERE, UH, WHERE THE GREEN SPACE AREA IN THE POOL WOULD BE BE A CONVERSION OF THE OPEN SPACE.
SO THEY HAVE CONVERTED THAT PART OF THE PARKING, UH, LOT WITH THE, UH, PARKING SPACES AND THAT WOULD ESTABLISH SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR TWO PER DWELLING UNIT.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE REDUCTION IN SIZE FROM APARTMENTS OF THE 10 BY 20 AND THE SETBACK OF 30 FEET THAT THEY COULD UTILIZE THE EXISTING PARKING AREA AS IT IS STRIKED TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO THE PARKING TWO CONDITIONS OF THAT.
WELL, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE JOHN, THAT UM, WE HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, APARTMENTS AND NOTHING ELSE.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS NINE 18.
IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THAT THE, THE SETBACK, OR I'M NOT SURE I'M USING THE RIGHT TERM, IT'S A FUNCTIONAL PARKING LOT AS IS RIGHT NOW FOR THE BUILDING.
I MEAN, IT SERVES THE PURPOSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO USE THE PARKING OUTSIDE OF THAT 30 FOOT BOUNDARY.
UM, I, I KNOW YOU TOLD ME, BUT PLEASE TELL ME AGAIN, THE REVISED PARKING, HOW MANY SPOTS DO THEY HAVE? THE REVISED PARKING? UH, THEY HAVE ENOUGH WITH THE REVISED PARKING LAYOUT, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE 78 REQUIRED WITH A FEW EXTRA.
SO THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE TWO PER DWELLING UNIT.
UH, THEY HAVE A FEW EXTRA PUT IN THERE.
SO THEY WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE RIGHT, OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THEN IF, IF WE ACCEPTED THAT, UH, REVISED PLAN, THEN WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PARKING AND THEN THE SETBACK, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
THAT WAS THE PLACED ON THE CON THE CONDITION YOU PLACED ON THE APPROVAL FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IT, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME IT MAY NOT BE CORRECT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT PROBABLY THAT PART OF THE CODE WAS WRITTEN WITH RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN MIND WHERE THE SETBACK MADE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE.
BUT HERE YOU'VE GOT STREETS ON TWO SIDES, SORRY, STREETS ON THREE SIDES AND A CONCRETE SLAB, UH, ON THE FOURTH SIDE.
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SO THAT SETBACK DOESN'T MAKE SO MUCH SENSE AS IT WOULD IF YOU WERE STARTING DE NOVO BUILDING IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND HAD TO KEEP EVERYTHING, UH, PRETTY AND SPACIOUS.SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, THAT, UH, GOING WITH REALITY INSTEAD OF THE HYPOTHETICAL MAKES SENSE HERE.
FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THE PARKING PLAN YOU HAVE UP THERE, THE PART THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARKING THAT BORDERS THE LOT NEXT DOOR, IS THERE SPACE? HOW MUCH IS THERE ADEQUATE SPACING FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, SO THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE THERE EXISTING, THOSE WILL BE ELIMINATED.
SO THEN THEY WOULD INSTALL THE PARKING CLOSER TO THE BUILDING SO THAT THAT WOULD ENABLE A TRAVEL WAY BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT IT, THEY HAVE, THERE'S ANOTHER PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THAT AND TO THE, THE OTHER SIDE BESIDE THE PROPERTY CORNERS ON THREE STREETS, BASICALLY WITH THE PAR, UH, EXISTING PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT, UH, UH, LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING WE SPOKE BEFORE, BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
THIS IS SPECIAL EXCEPTION ON PARKING.
UM, YEAH, SO I THINK FROM LAST TIME THE BIG, I THINK THE BIG, UH, COMEBACK WAS THE TWO SPOTS PER UNIT.
UM, AND SO I DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO IT, BUT WE, WE DID.
UM, AND UH, SO WE ARE JUST ASKING BASICALLY TO REUSE A LOT OF THE EXISTING PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE THERE.
UH, THAT DON'T SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR, FOR SAM AND HIS TEAM.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE SPOTS THERE WE'RE JUST BASICALLY ASKING FOR NINE BY 18.
AND, UH, THEN, UH, ALSO THE 30 FOOT STEP BACK, WHICH I MEAN, WE COULD BARELY PARK ANYTHING IF WE HAD TO
YOU COULDN'T EVEN BE A HOTEL IF YOU HAD TO FOLLOW THE 30.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE REVISED PLAN, WHAT YOU DID, YOU BRINGING THE GREEN SPACE OUT FROM THE POOL THAT ELIMINATED PARKING.
YOU PUT IN PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER MATTHEW WAS TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'VE ELIMINATED THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT OTHER PARKING WHERE YOUR PROPERTY LINE IS.
AND THAT GIVES YOU THE ACCESS.
AND OF COURSE, I BELIEVE IN THE DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'D BE A ONE-WAY AROUND THERE.
FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW WOULD HAVE TO BE ONE WAY BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS THAT'S CREATED BY CREATING YOUR CONDITIONAL PARKING.
SO YEAH, IT'LL, IT'LL BE ONE WAY AND THEN, UM, EVEN THE LARGER TRUCKS CURRENTLY ARE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THEIR WAY THROUGH ALL THE WAY AROUND.
SO IN CASE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET TO THE APPROVAL AND THE APARTMENTS ARE TURNED INTO, UM, SORRY.
IT, IT, IT IS TURNED INTO APARTMENTS, THEN, YOU KNOW, ANY MOVING TRUCKS WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND AND THERE ARE TWO, UH, ENTRANCE ON BOTH SIDES.
SO THEY SHOULD BE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO EXIT ON THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY ENTERED FROM TO GET TO COMMERCE AVENUE.
THERE ARE TWO, UH, ENTRANCE AND EXITS AT THE MOMENT.
FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS QUESTION.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING? NONE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR DISCUSSION.
WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THEN A DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES.
I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FLORIDA, A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION NUMBER 2 4 0 0 2 0 8 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10 SOUTH COMMERCE AVENUE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACE SIZE FROM 10 FEET BY 20 FEET TO NINE FEET BY 18 FEET, AND A REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED PARKING AREA SETBACK OF 30 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINES PER THE SUBMITTED CONCEPT PLAN.
MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? VICE CHAIRMAN MARNER? YES.
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THEN THE MOTION PASSES.UM, I, I, I JUST WANNA SAY TO THE, TO THE APPLICANT, I, I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I GO BY THAT HOTEL.
ANYTIME I GO OUT OF HOME, I HAVE TO PASS THAT HOTEL.
AND I AM, I HAVE WORRIED ABOUT THAT HOTEL.
SO I AM QUITE EXCITED AND VERY HOPEFUL TO SEE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE TURNING THAT INTO A REAL ASSET TO A TOWN.
UH, WE'RE NOW AT, UH, UH, MR. WOODS, UH, PROPOSED A NEW ITEM FOR THE AGENDA.
UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS NOT ON THE PREVIOUS AGENDA, WHICH IS TO, UH, HANDLE THE ISSUE OF THE FACT THAT OUR CHAIRMAN, UH, RESIGNED, UH, LAST WEEK.
UM, I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO NOMINATE A CHAIRMAN, MADAM, UH, VICE CHAIR.
I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO NOMINATE YOU, UH, COUNTY MARSH AS THE CHAIRPERSON OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE A SECOND TERM? I SECOND THAT.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION? STATE THAT IT'S FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM, PLEASE.
PARDON? FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM.
SO IT STATES FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF, UH, PREDECESSOR.
UH, MS. POTTER, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER MATTHEW? YES.
IF IT ISN'T UNSEEMLY, DEVOTE FOR MYSELF, I WILL VOTE.
NOW WE NEED A MOTION, UH, SINCE I HAVE JUST BECOME CHAIRMAN, UH, WE NOW NEED A VICE CHAIRMAN.
MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, MICHAEL WILLIAMS, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AS OUR NEW, UH, VICE CHAIR FOR THE REST OF THIS TERM.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION? MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS EPSTEIN.
WELCOME MR. WILLIAMS AS VICE CHAIRMAN.
[VIII. COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS]
COMMISSION REPORTS ARE THERE.MR. MATTHEW, MR. WILLIAMS, MR. WOOD COMMISSION REPORTS? YES.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, IT'S WITH MIXED EMOTIONS.
TONIGHT THAT I SUBMIT MY LETTER OF RESIGNATION FROM THE FRONT ROYAL PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY RESIGNATION AT THIS TIME WILL ENABLE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO ADVERTISE ONE TIME INTERVIEW AND HOPEFULLY APPOINT TWO COMMISSIONERS ON THEIR MAY 28TH MEETING DUE OF COURSE TO DANIEL WELLS RESIGNATION AS WELL.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT HONOR TO SERVE ON THE, FOR THE FRONT ROYAL COMMUNITY FOR OVER 10 YEARS ON THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AND WORK ALONGSIDE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
AND I WISH THE COMMISSIONERS CONTINUED SUCCESS IN THEIR EFFORTS TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT IT ON WHAT MADAM CHAIR DO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT RESIGNATION.
UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO REGRETFULLY, I MOVE TO REGRETFULLY ACCEPT COMMISSIONER WOODS, UM, RESIGNATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HIS SERVICE TO THIS TOWN HAS BEEN GREATLY APPRECIATED AND IT'S EFFECTIVE MAY 16TH.
I REGRETFULLY SECOND THAT, AND I REGRETFULLY ASK MS. POTTER TO CALL THE VOTE THE, THE VOTE OR THE ROLE.
UM, VICE CHAIRMAN OR CHAIRMAN MARSH REGRETFULLY.
WE WILL, YOUR LEG WILL NOT BE SEEN AGAIN.
APRO APROPOS OF COMMISSIONER REPORTS AFTER THAT.
MINE IS MINOR AND IT DOESN'T PERTAIN TO PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS, BUT IT'S JUST YOUR CHAIRMAN'S CHAIRMAN'S
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BUSINESS.I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCED THAT YESTERDAY A BOOK WAS PUBLISHED, WHICH IS THE FRUIT OF FOUR YEARS OF MY LABOR, AND I JUST MARRIED FIRST THERE.
[IX. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT]
YOU HAVE A PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT, PLEASE? OKAY.FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, PLANNING AND ZONING HAD 267 WALK-INS.
WE ARE AT 727 WALK-INS FOR 2024.
WE HAD, UM, FIVE NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, CASES DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
UM, WE HAD, UH, 10 RE-INSPECTIONS.
WE HAD 23, UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE INSPECTIONS, BUT THAT NUMBER SEEMS ALL.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD SEVEN LAND USE APPLICATIONS, UM, AND EIGHT SIGNED PERMITS, AND WE ISSUED 15 BUSINESS LICENSES.
UM, AND THEN ON THE, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE, I'VE SPOKEN WITH OUR CONSULTANT AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE A DRAFT TO THIS BODY BY, UH, END OF JUNE IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.
SO I THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO START DIGGING IN THIS SUMMER SO WE CAN TAKE IT WITH US WHEN WE GO ON VACATION.
I DID HIRE A NEW AND A NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE OFFICIAL AND, AND THE NAME OF THAT PERSON,
UM, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO KNOW FROM BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OR ZONING, UH, UH, ZONING APPEALS? NO.
WE DID NOT HAVE A BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING THIS PAST MONTH.
I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE ONE IN ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO AS I BELIEVE THEY'VE JUST APPOINTED ANOTHER, ANOTHER MEMBER.
ONCE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO MEET AND GO OVER OUR BYLAWS AGAIN.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE BAR, WE JUST HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS FOR THE NEXT MONTH.
SO MAKING A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT RIGHT NOW.
HOW MANY OPENINGS DO WE HAVE ON OUR BOARDS? OF COURSE, WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS IMMEDIATELY.
WE HAVE TWO ON PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE ON OUR L-B-B-C-A.
WELL, I WANT TO PUT A PITCH IN, IF I MAY, SINCE I'M LEAVING, UM, THE COMMISSION.
UH, IT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUR FEET WET, UH, WORKING WITH THE GREAT STAFF, UH, ATTORNEY CLERK, UH, THE WHOLE PLANNING, THE ZONING PEOPLE, UH, THE WORK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UH, WE WORK ACCORDING, UH, WITH OUR COLLEAGUES HERE.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS, UM, I THINK SINCE PAST CHAIRMAN MERCHANT, UH, WAS NOT REAPPOINTED, HE ELECTED NOT TO BE REAPPOINTED.
THIS BOARD, UH, THIS COMMISSION HAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON ALL ISSUES.
AND AGAIN, UH, WE GO OUT, WE STUDY THE ISSUE, WE TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, WE TALK TO OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, TO COME IN HERE AND BE PREPARED TO LISTEN, UH, TO THE CITIZENS AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
I, I HAVE ENJOYED THIS TREMENDOUSLY AND, UH, WITH COLLEAGUES LIKE THIS AND, AND, AND PAST MEMBERS, UH, AND COLLEAGUES WHO SOME OF 'EM ARE NO LONGER WITH US, UH, IT, BUT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND YOU HAVE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE THE BEST FOR FRONT ROYAL.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE PUT YOUR RESUME IN, UH, GET A HOLD OF OUR, UH, UH, CLERK.
I BELIEVE SHE'S ACCEPTING THE APPLICATIONS.
I DID TRY TO TIME MY RESIGNATION WITH THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE COUNCIL COULD GO AHEAD AND INTERVIEW CANDIDATES AND PERHAPS AT THE END OF NEXT MONTH AT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING, UM, APPOINT TO, AND THEN THERE'S TRAINING THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH YOU.
YOU SPEND THE BETTER PART OF FOUR DAYS, UH, GO.
BUT I DID YOU DO ZOOM? DID YOU DO? NO.
I I WENT WITH YOU TO RICHMOND.
WELL, I, I'M TALKING OH, SORRY.
I WAS NODDING TO COMMISSIONER, I THINK NOT VICE CHAIR WILLIAMS. UH, YOU GOTTA PUT SOME WORK IN.
YOU'RE NOT JUST GONNA COME UP HERE AND SET AND GO.
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YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO BE PREPARED, UH, TO STUDY THE ISSUES.AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN TONIGHT ABOUT THE PARKING, BUT YOU PLAY THE HAND THAT YOU'RE DEALT AND THAT'S WHY TOWN COUNCIL HAS A FINAL SAY.
BUT, UH, IT'S BEEN MY HONEST TO GOD PLEASURE AND HOPEFULLY SOME FUTURE IN MY LIFE.
I HOPE THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND PONDERED BY MANY MR. SONNET.
THE, UH, IF, IF THE TOWN COUNCIL DOES NOT APPOINT TWO MORE PE PEOPLE TO THIS COMMISSION, BY THE TIME MR. WOODS' RESIGNATION TAKES EFFECT AND WE HAVE ONLY THE THREE OF US HERE, WE CAN STILL FUNCTION.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY HERE, MEANING PRESENT,
EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENT, BUT NO VACANCIES, NO ABSENCES ALLOWED.
OH, YOU DID STAY LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE THE MOTION.
UH, AND, UH, UM, I, THAT IS A NON DEBATABLE MOTION, BUT WE MAY TAKE A VOTE ON IT.