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[Economic Development Authority on February 12, 2024. ]
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ALRIGHT.I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS, UH, WORK SESSION OF THE FRONT WALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO ORDER, UM, HILLARY.
SO TODAY WE SAID WE WERE GONNA, UH, HAVE A GOAL SETTING DISCUSSION AND, UH, GOT A LOT OF COOL STUFF ON THE WALLS HERE.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND THIS OVER TO STAFF.
THERE ARE THREE COLORS OF STICKY NOTES IN FRONT OF YOU.
GREEN MEANS THIS IS NUMBER ONE.
BLUE MEANS I'M SLIGHTLY LESS EXCITED THAN GREEN.
JUST DON'T PUT A STICKY ON IT.
SO THESE ARE THE COMP PLAN GOALS I PUT THEM IN.
THE FIVE BUCKETS, AS YOU WILL SEE, THERE'S ROOM ON THE PAPER SO THAT WE CAN WRITE ON OTHER GOALS AND OTHER BUCKETS.
BUT I THOUGHT WE COULD VERY SWIFTLY JUST PRIORITIZE THE ONES THAT EXIST.
AND AGAIN, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE A STICKY, IF IT DOESN'T FIT, THEN DON'T DO IT.
BLUE KIND OF MAS MAYOS ON, AND THEN PURPLE WOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR STACK RANKING.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A STICKY READY.
WE CAN PUT MANY STICKIES EVERY WANT.
PUT YOUR NAME ON THE STICKY BEFORE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP.
NO, THIS IS JUST LIKE A SURVEY.
SO JUST ONE COLOR OR ONE STICKY PER ITEM.
I WOULD NOT GIVE IT MULTIPLE STICKIES ON ONE ITEM.
I WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD BE VERY CONFUSING.
MORE CONFUSING THAN IT'S ALREADY THERE.
SO GREEN'S NUMBER ONE, BLUES NUMBER TWO.
FEEL LIKE THAT AIR IS REALLY ROLLING.
IT IS NOT PURPLE'S NOT EXCITED OR LESS EXCITED.
PURPLE IS ACTUALLY THE LEAST EXCITED.
IS COMMENT WITH NOTHING ON PURPLE IS LIKE, OKAY.
BUT AGAIN, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE A STICKY, JUST THE ONES THAT YOU ARE JAZZED ABOUT.
AND IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHICH BUCKET A GOAL WENT IN, WE CAN MOVE THEM.
THIS WAS JUST MY, UH, TAKE ON IT.
IS THAT LIKE FOR ALL THE GOALS ON THAT SHEET? THAT GREEN STICKY? UM, NO.
YOU, YOU MIGHT, I GUESS YOU WANT ME TO DO SPECIFIC PLEASE PASS AWAY.
GO RIGHT BESIDE THE SPECIFIC ONE.
YOU CAN STACK THEM ON TOP OF EACH OTHER OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO.
BUT YOU YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD ONE.
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BLESS, BLESS YOU.IF YOU NEED ANY MORE OF A COLOR, LET ME KNOW.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO NARROW THESE GOT FIVE SPECIFIC ONES? NOT NECESSARILY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOLES HERE TOO.
THIS IS JUST A STARTING TIME IN MY OPINION.
THESE ARE JUST THE ONES FROM THE COMP PLAN.
I THINK THESE ARE JUST THE ONES IN THE COMP PLAN THAT GOT LIFTED OFF AND PUT ON.
THERE WERE LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS.
IT WAS THE ASSIGNMENT, WASN'T IT? TO DO THAT.
NOT EVERY GOAL HAD FRIDA NEXT TO IT THOUGH, RIGHT? RIGHT.
ALL OF THESE HAD FRIDA RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN THERE.
A I FOR SOME SPECIAL EVENTS, LADY I AND GOT IS.
BUT SHE SHOULD DON'T THINK WE HAVE SOMEBODY DOING THIS ALREADY.
BUT YEAH, WE A BETTER LATE THAN NEVER
BUT I, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT I HEARD ABOUT THAT MEETS LIKE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
AND UHHUH
THE FRONT ROYAL BASE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MY MEETING AT FIVE 30, SIR.
THAT'S A TOWN, UH, APPOINTED COMMITTEE.
AND THEY DO, UM, PRIMARILY THINGS THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTAL IN THE TOWN LIMITS.
NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING THAT'S RIVER SPECIFIC, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIKE THE TOWN RUN KIND OF WATERSHED.
BUT YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO THAT SORT OF WORK, INCLUDING THE RIVERKEEPER.
LIKE SOMEBODY SAID, ALL RIGHT, WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT OUR CHOICES.
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I'LL JUMP IN AT ONCE.SO, ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND VOLUNTEERISM.
NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE FEEL IS OUR OKAY.
INITIATING A PROGRAM TO ORGANIZE VOLUNTEERS TO HELP SENIOR CITIZENS WITH HOME MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS.
UM, A BRUSH WITH KINDNESS WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY DOES THIS ACTUALLY.
SO, UM, IF SOMEONE HAD A PASSION FOR THAT, PERHAPS WE COULD HELP THEM AMPLIFY THEIRS.
IT'S LIKE A DAY OF CARING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK INITIATE WAS MY PROBLEM WITH THE PHRASING TOO, BUT YEAH, I AGREE.
THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS.
RIGHT? SO WE CAN JUST CUT THESE AND BE DONE WITH THEM.
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF THE INLAND PORT AS IT RELATES TO THE TOWN.
LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS A, A GOOD ONE TO KEEP.
UH, RECRUIT GROUPS THAT PROMOTE CLEAN RIVERS, SUCH AS THE POTOMAC WATERSHED LINE TO LOCATE IN FRONT.
ROYAL, I THINK THERE WERE SOME, THERE'S SOME PURPLE HERE, WHICH IS GOOD.
I THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, BUT NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON IS FRIDA, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
I MEAN THAT CAN BE SAID FOR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS TOO.
IT'S JUST A, I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS, IS IT IN OUR SCOPE, OR AT LEAST IN OUR INITIAL SCOPE, DO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S IN OUR SCOPE? NO.
IT'S JUST A NICE THING THAT EXISTS.
I DON'T, THAT IS IN OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES.
DO WE WANNA KEEP OUR PURPLE POST-ITS, I THINK IT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE CONTINUED MARKETING AND BRANDING EFFORTS AROUND PURPLE AS A GATEWAY TO THE OUTDOOR COMMUNITY.
LIKE THAT BEING THAT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR LANE, RIGHT? OF MARKETING OUR WEBSITE.
SO I PUT ONE OF THE PURPLE POST-ITS THERE.
UM, AND BUT TO DAVID'S POINT, AND ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING AT HOME OR WATCHES LATER, SO FRIDA, WE HAVE A SCOPE AND OUR SCOPE IS NARROWER THAN THE OVERALL TOWN SCOPE, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO THERE'S SO MUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE DONE.
BUT I, IF WE DON'T NARROW OUR SCOPE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, AND ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THAT POSSIBLY IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE, BE JUST BECAUSE, WELL, BECAUSE LIKE GEO TISM OR WHAT IS IT? NO, NOT GEO AGRITOURISM.
BUT ANYWAY, NATURE TOURISM, I'M GONNA CALL IT, WE JUST CALL THAT USUALLY TOURISM, BUT YEAH, YEAH.
UM, I, I THINK THAT WE ARE THAT.
AND, AND AS A COMMUNITY THAT IS ONE OF OUR STRENGTHS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
NOW, WHETHER THAT PARTICULAR COMMENT IS PART OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
MY STATEMENT ON THAT IS THAT I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO RECRUIT THE GROUPS.
'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY HERE.
SO I THINK THE PERSON WHO GAVE THIS COMMENT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, PROBABLY JUST DIDN'T KNOW RIGHT.
THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY EXIST.
WELL, AND, AND THAT, SO THAT WOULD, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF MY OBSERVATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
I MEAN, THE FIRST ONE'S A GREAT ONE TOO.
AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS SORT OF, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, WELL, AGAIN, YEAH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT WITHIN OUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I THINK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, TOM WAS TALKING ABOUT PARKING GARAGES OR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE LANES WHEN WE ARE OVERLOADED, YOU KNOW, DURING LEAF SEASON AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF LIKE, HOW DO WE GET AROUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT KIND OF FIT MORE INTO, I, I THINK THE DISCUSSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YEAH.
I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT FALLS MORE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAN, I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL YEAH.
AS FAR AS CONCRETE SOILS, BUILDING ROADS, UTILITIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE TOWN
SO THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA ADD WHEN I READ THAT LAST STATEMENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK OF THE EAC OR ACES COMMITTEE, THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY WHERE THEY ARE THERE TO PROMOTE THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
SO I, THEY SHOULD WORK ON THAT, RIGHT? WELL, I'LL TELL 'EM.
NO, I, I'M SURE, I'M SURE THAT MEETING AT FIVE 30, I'LL TELL 'EM.
I'M SURE THAT THEY ALREADY ARE.
SO ESTABLISH A BUY LOCAL CAMPAIGN THAT ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO SHOP AT LOCALLY OWNED RESTAURANTS AND STORES.
SO NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY ON THIS ONE.
ANYBODY WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS ONE? WHY
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YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD FIT OR NOT A GOOD FIT? IT'S A, IT'S MORE OF A MARKETING CAMPAIGN AS OPPOSED TO A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.I MEAN, I, I GET THE TIES TO IT, BUT AS FAR AS FALLING ON OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES, IT FALLS LOWER.
AS FAR AS ORGANIZING, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US HERE ARE MARKETING OR MEDIA PEOPLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW I COULD DO IT OTHER THAN, UH, WORD OF MOUTH OFF HOW, MY OPINION.
WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? THAT'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FUNCTION, NOT NECESSARILY FRIDA, IN MY OPINION.
AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESS ALLIANCES LIKE FRONT ROYAL INDEPENDENT BUSINESS ALLIANCE AND DOWNTOWN FRONT ROYAL INC.
AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER GROUPS PROMOTIONS.
I FEEL LIKE PERHAPS THOSE COULD FIT BETTER UNDER THEM THAN YOU GUYS.
ANYBODY WHO'S IN FAVOR? WHO IS MY GREEN POST-IT.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
ANYONE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT, ABOUT PRIORITIZING IT? I WOULD RATHER PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY THAN, OKAY.
SO MAYBE WOULDN'T IT BE FUNNY IF I'M WRITING THROUGH ON THE PAINT ANYWAY AND HAVE TO REPAINT
UM, START A DIALOGUE AND CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES ABOUT HOW TO GROW THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
THIS GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE GREEN, SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT.
ANYTHING ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO THROW OUT ABOUT EXISTING BUSINESS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WE WILL COME BACK TO ALL OF THEM.
BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME BURNING DESIRE TO ADD TO THE PAPER, WE CAN DO THAT.
I MEAN, PERHAPS THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION WE'LL FIND OUT THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES THAT, UM, WANT, MAYBE WANT TO EXPAND, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW, UH, OR DEDP LOANS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT HELP WITH TOOLS, STOREFRONT ENHANCEMENT LOANS, SOMETHING TO, I MEAN, PLACE UP A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAD MADE A COMMENT ALSO ABOUT, UM, COMING UP WITH A, UH, UH, UH, A SURVEY, WELL, NOT A SURVEY.
UH, UH, WHETHER IT'S, UH, WE WANT TO FACILITATE MAKING IT EASY TO DO BUSINESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, AND I, I MEAN, I DON'T, I I HAVE ONE FOR THAT TOO.
SO, UM, WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE, IT'S, IT'S A NEW BIZ AND A, IT, IT, IT, IT CROSSES INTO BOTH BIZ AREAS, I THINK.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD TO THIS BEFORE WE ROLL ON? IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN'T COME BACK, SO DON'T PANIC.
I JUST THINK I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT DIALOGUE OR AN INTERVIEWER OF SOME SORT, I, I, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE, UM, THAT MAYBE DON'T GET INVOLVED OR DON'T, I MEAN, VOICE THEIR OPINION OUT LOUD, BUT THEY CERTAIN, I KNOW FOR SURE THEY HAVE THEM.
UM, AND WELL, NO, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY OVERLOOK.
I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON A PROBLEM.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE IN A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY FRANK AND HE'S SAYING, WELL, I JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH WORKFORCE KIND OF ISSUES AND, AND IT, IT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M NOT IN HIS BUSINESS, I JUST OVERLOOK IT OR DON'T FIND IT TO BE IMPORTANT.
AND, AND SO SORT OF GETTING AN IDEA OF WHAT COULD HELP PROMOTE OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I THINK ASKING FOR THESE OPINIONS IS GONNA BE COSTLY,
UM, YOU KNOW, OR HOW THEY'RE DOING AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, IT, IT'S, UM, WE HAD TALKED LAST MEETING ABOUT BUILDING A DIRECTORY OF INCENTIVE RESOURCES THAT, I FORGET WHERE, WHERE THE DISCUSSION LED, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE WERE LOANS THAT WERE ONCE AVAILABLE.
I MEAN, THERE'S STILL, THERE'S LIKE THE, THE WARREN COUNTY EDA HAS A MICRO LOAN PROGRAM YEAH.
AND IT'S USUALLY FOR GAP FINANCING IF THEY HAVE A PROJECT GOING ON.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO, UM, LIKE SOMEBODY, LIZ, I CAN'T REMEMBER, I THINK YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
MAYBE SOMEBODY HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT, UM, HEY, THERE'S SOME WAYS FOR ME TO NOT HAVE TO PAY SOME OF MY TOWN TAXES IF I YEAH, THERE WAS AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
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YEAH.BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY 'CAUSE IT WAS CREATED AND UNDERUTILIZED.
YOU KNOW, SO IT FELL INTO A CRACK AND, AND NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMING BACK TO THOSE INCENTIVE RESOURCES.
I THINK EXISTING BUSINESS IS GONNA BE ONE WE HIT A LOT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT NEW BUSINESS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSE CUISINE THING.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT, THE OVERALL SENTIMENT THAT I'VE PICKED UP ON WAS THAT IT WAS JUST VERY NARROW AND, YOU KNOW, IN ITS SCOPE.
SO SOMEONE GAVE IT, UH, A TWO OUT OF THREE.
SO DO YOU HAVE A PASSION ABOUT KEEPING IT? NO.
DO YOU HAVE A PASSION ABOUT REWORKING IT TO WHERE IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO DIVERSE CUISINES? NAH.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEBODY DECIDE TO MOVE TO A TOWN JUST BECAUSE YOU CANNOT.
BUT EDA SAID, HEY, GUESS WHAT? WE EXIST.
UH, A LOT OF RESTAURANTS ALREADY HAVE THEIR DECISIONS BASED ON A LOT OF OTHER METRICS THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
DO YOU WANNA KEEP EVERY POSTED? I THINK THAT DOES GROUP OF FALL INTO ANY OTHER BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, ATTRACTION CATEGORY, IN MY OPINION.
UM, ATTRACTING A GROCERY STORE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, OR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN? DO WE HAVE A GROCERY STORE? ALDI'S ALREADY OVER THERE ISN'T.
AND WE HAVE ALDI AND WALMART AND TARGET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.
DO THEY MEAN THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN? THEY MEAN THE SOUTH SIDE.
I SWEAR I'LL JUST COPY AND PASTE.
NO, IT SAID NORTH SIDE AND I WAS CONFUSED WHEN I READ IT.
I THINK MAYBE THEY MEANT THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO IN ANY CASE, IS THERE AN APPETITE TO ATTRACT A GROCERY STORE TO ANY GEOGRAPHIC AREA IN FRONT ROYAL AT THIS TIME, AT THIS MOMENT? SOME OF WHAT, OKAY.
NOT AN APPETITE AROUND THE TABLE, I SHOULD SAY.
THE HARD TIME LOCATING ONE AS WELL.
I MEAN, GIVEN, I MEAN THE, THE SPACE THAT THAT USED TO BE GROCERY STORE HAS ALL BEEN, YOU KNOW, GOBBLED UP BY OTHER STUFF.
UM, ALTHOUGH I GUESS THERE'S, BUT I DON'T THINK A GROCERY STORE COULD FIT OVER THERE ANYWAY IN THE, IN THE FOOD LION AREA, SHOPPING CENTER OR WHATEVER.
SO I'LL BE, MY ARGUMENT IS WHY DID FOOD LION LEAVE? YOU KNOW, WHEN ALDI CAME IN, I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING WITH RESTAURANTS OR ANY BUSINESS, IT'S, IT IS SORT OF LIKE YOU REACH A SATURATION POINT WHERE, UM, YOU, IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, UH, JUST A WHOLE SET OF EXPENSES AND, AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE FOOD LION THING, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THEY BECAME OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE AS MARTINS.
AND SO MOST COMMUNITIES THAT HAD BOTH ONLY GOT TO KEEP THE MARTINS AS OPPOSED.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, YOUR, YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE FOR SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GENERALLY A PRECIPITATING EVENT THAT CAUSES THOSE FOLKS TO MOVE.
UM, I KNOW STEVEN CITY HAD THE SAME SITUATION OF FOOD LION AND MARTINS ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU KNOW, THEY GOT TO KEEP GOING.
SO, UM, SO, UH, MY COMMENT ABOUT THAT, AND, AND I AGREE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A WEGMANS OR, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF GREAT GROCERY STORES, BUT WE'RE NOT ON THEIR RADAR BECAUSE OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS.
UM, AND I CAN BRING IN SOME SUPPORTING ARTICLES FROM WINCHESTER WHO IS A LOT BIGGER THAN US, AND THEY'RE FASTER GROWING AND, AND THEY HAVE TRIED TO BRING IN GROCERY STORES AND, UH, IT'S, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ALL THAT SUCCESSFUL, OR WHEN THEY HAVE, THEY BROUGHT ONE IN AND THEN IT LEFT, BUT THE FRESH MARKET, I THINK SO.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF A SPECIALTY GROCERY.
SO I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING, LOOK, I'M, I'M ALWAYS A POWER POSITIVE THINKING GUY OR WHATEVER, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT THAT IS A LOW SLOW BURN ON THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH, I AGREE.
SO MAYBE LIKE, I PUT A STICKY UP THERE, BUT, WELL, I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HEY EVERYBODY.
I MEAN, WE ALL GO OTHER PLACES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
WE GO, MAN, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO HAVE A TRADER JOE'S OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A BOTTOM OF OUR LIST.
NOT THAT WE TAKE IT OFF FOREVER AND EVER TRYING TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PERIOD.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE, OR THAT WE CAN SAY, OH, LET'S, I WOULD SCRATCH OUT THE DOWNTOWN WORD AFTER A GROCERY STORE.
I MEAN, REALLY, WE SHOULD BE, AND, AND, AND EVEN THE NORTH SIDE WORD, I MEAN, ATTRACT ANOTHER GROCERY STORE TO ME IF, KEEP IT SIMPLE, RIGHT?
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I MEAN, DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.MEAN, I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHAT GROCERY STORE I WOULD, EVEN IF ONE DID COME IN, WHAT WOULD IT BE? THAT I WOULD GO TO IT INSTEAD OF MARTIN'S LY WIGGLY LY WIGGLY
I LIKE MARTIN'S, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A KROGER NEXT TO A MARTIN'S, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 50 50 IT OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOTH NICE STORES.
I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT GROCERY STORE CHAINS.
I KNOW IT JUST, WHEN I GO OUT OF TOWN, I, YEAH.
BUT I, I STILL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MAYBE A NICE TO HAVE, BUT NOT A MUST HAVE GOAL.
ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES TO REMAIN OPEN AFTER 5:00 PM IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANNA TACKLE? WELL, THAT TO ME SHOULD BE OVER THERE UNDER EXISTING BUSINESSES.
BUT IS THAT AN INITIATIVE YOU WANNA TAKE ON? I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AND I'M, I DON'T KNOW.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE IT ON AGAIN, RICK? HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT?
I SAID, I SAID A FEW MEETINGS AGO, I MEAN, I, I SAID IN THE SUMMER, BACK WHEN THERE WAS THE DBA AND TOM AND RICK BOTH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TOM EVEN HAD SUPPORTING DOCUMENT, OR NOT TOM, EXCUSE ME, RICK HAD, YOU KNOW, RECEIPTS AND HE COULD SAY, LOOK, I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, I'M, THERE'S PEOPLE, THERE'S A HUNDRED PEOPLE OUT ON MAIN STREET RIGHT NOW, AND NO ONE'S OPEN.
UM, I COULD SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GONE TO THE WALKING WALL IN WINCHESTER.
YOU LEAVE A RESTAURANT AND ALL THE, ALL THE SHOPS ARE CLOSED.
YOU CAN LOOK IN THE WINDOWS AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT BUSINESS IS HARD TO FIGURE OUT.
AND IN A TOWN LIKE THIS, IT'S EVEN HARDER.
I MEAN, THERE'S JUST EVEN LESS PEOPLE THAN THERE ARE IN WINCHESTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT SAME COULD BE SAID PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE.
IT'S JUST THAT IT, UM, I MEAN, I THINK IF PEOPLE SAW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON DOWNTOWN OR THAT THERE WERE A HUNDRED PEOPLE LEAVING THE MOVIE THEATER, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE, I MEAN, THERE ARE BUSINESSES.
THEY'RE JUST A DIFF THEY'RE NOT SHOPS.
AND DON'T YOU THINK THAT APPLIES TO THE MAIN STREET MORE THAN THE OTHER AREAS OF TOWN? THAT COMMENT? YES.
BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU HAVE A DRAW OF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THAT TIME.
YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS, OBVIOUSLY AROUND DINNER TIME BUSINESSES TO REMAIN OPEN.
BUT, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I GO OVER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RURAL KING SHOPPING CENTER, EVERYONE'S OPEN.
YOU KNOW, MOST EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT THE CHURCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THE, THE HOSPICE THING ISN'T THE STORE.
I THINK ALL OF YOUR POINTS ARE VALID.
BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD COME BACK TO, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU ALL WANT TO TRY TO TACKLE? AND HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? IT FEELS STICKY BECAUSE HOW DO YOU TELL THINK IT BELONGS OVER THERE? AND IT COULD BE IN THAT PART OF THE DIALOGUE.
SOUNDS LIKE PERHAPS COMMERCE THING.
UM, COULD, COULD BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED FOR 30 YEARS.
AND, AND, AND LISTEN, THERE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES RUN BY THE OWNERS AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY HOURS IN THE DAY.
AND THEY MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS.
AND IT'S THEIR DECISION TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THEY BE OPEN ON A MONDAY HOLIDAY WHEN THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WALKING UP AND DOWN MAIN STREET? PROBABLY.
BUT IF THEY DECIDE TO TAKE THE DAY OFF, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, THEY'RE CALL, THEY'RE CALL.
SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A GOAL.
ATTRACTING BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT USES, THAT ARE, ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT USES THAT ARE LIMITED IN TOWN, SUCH AS CLOTHING STORES OR OTHER SHOPS THAT ARE NOT PRESENTLY FOUND IN THE MARKET.
WELL, AND I, SO I WOULD JUST MOVE THE, THE TOP ONE, RIGHT? AND JUST IN INSERT IT INTO THERE, THE TRACK BUSINESS.
THE, THE TOP ONE REALLY IS JUST PART OF THAT ONE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A CLOTHING STORE AT FARM ROYAL, I GUESS THAT COULD ALSO FALL UNDER IDENTIFYING TARGET SECTORS.
RIGHT? THOSE TWO KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND.
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WE KNOW WHAT TO, WHAT WE, I MEAN, I'M TOLD THAT THE WOMEN'S SHOP DOWN THE STREET IS TEARING IT UP.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.
THAT'S ANECDOTAL INFORMATION, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, THAT SHE IS DOING REALLY WELL DOWN THERE.
BUT SHE IS A MOTIVATED OWNER WHO, YOU KNOW, MUST HAVE HOURS THAT WORK FOR HER CUSTOMERS.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE TWO ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, JUST IN A DIFFERENT HAT.
SO, UM, STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF A TOWN SPONSORED BUSINESS INCUBATOR SPACE.
SO, DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHO WAS AT PURPLE STICK? I THINK THAT WAS ME.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS MORE LIKE, DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT IT.
SO, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE, LIKE THAT WAS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT NOW POST COVID, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST WORKING FROM THEIR HOMES NOW.
MAYBE THAT MEANS WE DO NEED TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, A PLACE OTHER THAN THEIR HOME TO WORK.
'CAUSE MAYBE THEY'LL GET TIRED OF WORKING FROM THEIR HOME THREE DAYS A WEEK OR TWO DAYS A WEEK, OR ONE DAY A WEEK OR WHATEVER.
I JUST, I LIKE, I DIDN'T GIVE IT ANYTHING.
WELL, I, I MEAN, I READ THAT, I MEAN, BUSINESS INCUBATOR WOULD BE STARTING UP A BUSINESS OR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, A SPOT TO, I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED WHAT IT EVEN MEANT, I GUESS.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK OVER YOU.
I WAS JUST KIND OF AGREEING WITH YOU.
LIKE, I WAS CONFUSED BY THE MEANING OF THE, THE STATEMENT.
I MEAN, I, I, I LOOKED AT IT AS THAT NOT SOMEWHERE, NOT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO AND, YOU KNOW, SAY PLUG IN THEIR LAPTOPS AS A, AS A WORKSPACE.
KIND OF A GOTCHA, GOTCHA THING.
BUT I WAS THINKING OF IT MORE AS, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE WHERE A NEW BUSINESS OR, OR PEOPLE COULD MEET TO, UM, POSSIBLY CREATE THAT.
AND, AND, UM, TO ME IT'S JUST A HEAD SCRATCHING THING.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT LIKE MINDS, YOU'VE GOT, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT THING.
AND I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, IT COULD BE SOMETHING INTERESTING IF THAT WERE, IF IF THAT'S THE INCUBATOR THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AS FAR AS ON MAIN STREET WHERE CERTAIN CRAFTS, CERTAIN PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT CRAFTS VERSUS BASKETS, CLAY AND ARTS, POTTERY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
DON'T, DIDN'T THEY ALL BRING THAT TO THAT ONE SHOP THAT'S ON MAIN STREET THAT IS NO LONGER? YES.
YEAH, THEY'RE NO LONGER AROUND.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT KIND OF SEEMED LIKE TO ME.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW, A BUSINESS INCUBATOR SPACE, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE SOME SMALL OFFICE BUILDING THAT WHERE THE LEASE IS CHEAP FOR A BRAND NEW STARTING BUSINESS.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER THAT, UNLESS IT'S A FREE TO OWNED PROPERTY THAT WE SET UP TO BE THAT.
AND I DON'T SEE US TACKLING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE WAY I VISUALIZED IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A REALITY TV SHOW, BUT LIKE, JUST IN REALITY WHERE LIKE YOU CAN GET ALL THESE APPLICATIONS AND YOU PICK ONE AND THE TOWN HELPS 'EM FOR A YEAR OR SO.
UM, SO I, THAT THE WAY I WAS THINKING OF IT MADE IT SOMEWHAT INTRIGUING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A PRIORITY.
BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, IN A WAY WE ARE, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON YOUR DEFINITION, I MEAN, WE ARE THAT BUSINESS INCUBATOR SPACE, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TRYING TO FIGURE, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT SOME POINT WE ARE HERE TO HELP DIRECT OR, YOU KNOW, FACILITATE, UM, MM-HMM.
AIDEN, I AM FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE LERAY HAS AN INNOVATOR HUB.
THAT THEY DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR.
UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'S LERAY.
UM, I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND AND GET IT OVER TO YOU.
BUT IT, IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE THE WAY THEY DO THAT.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A PRIORITY FOR US.
SO ENCOURAGE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO FACILITATE APPRENTICESHIPS, TO BUILD COMMUNITY TIES AND SHARE BUSINESS ACUMEN THAT GOT NO STICKIES.
IT NEEDS NO DISCUSSION, IT GOT NO STICKIES.
UH, PARTNER WITH LOCAL EDUCATION AND VOCATIONAL RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR A SKILLED LABOR FORCE THAT GOT SOME, SOME BLUE STICKIES.
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UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO HOLD ONTO.ANYONE ELSE WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? NO, I AG I AGREE, BUT, AND, UM, BUT EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO FIND WORKERS AND SOME HAVE TO BE TRAINED TO BE AIR CONDITIONER TECHNICIANS AND SOME, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE TRAINED IN OTHER AREAS.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT REQUIRES WORKFORCE TRAINING OR, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, OR IF WE ARE INTERESTED IN, BUT IT'D BE GREAT IF SOMEHOW WE COULD SOLVE THE
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, ISN'T IT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UH, I MEAN, DAVID'S CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FILL A POSITION.
I'M CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FILL A POSITION, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS.
BUT, UM, ANYWAY, NO, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, I GUESS MAYBE SPEAKING ON FRANK'S BEHALF, IT'S, IT, I THINK THERE'S DOTS THAT NEED CONNECTED SOMEHOW.
I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT THEY WEREN'T.
LIKE, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THESE PROGRAMS WHERE KIDS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING THEIR FEET WET, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THERE IS SOME RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LAUREL RIDGE AND, AND, AND THERE THING.
AND THEN, NOT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, UNION STUFF OUT HERE, BUT FOR INSTANCE, THE HVAC, I KNOW THAT LAUREL RIDGE HAS HVAC, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS COVERED IN, IN THE, UM, THE VOTE OUT OTHER THAN VO TECH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL THAT BUILDING, BUT THE VO-TECH CENTER THAT, THAT IS WITH WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
SO I, I THINK THAT, UM, IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, IT IS, IT, IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO EXPLORE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S KIND OF AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE KIDS THAT GROW UP HERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF THEY COULD BE SHOWN BY A GUY LIKE FRANK, YOU KNOW, WHO USED TO WORK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE AND NOW WAS OFF DOING IT HIS OWN WAY.
AND SO THESE GUYS, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD ALL BE LOOPED IN TOGETHER, UH, FAIRLY WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, I, I DON'T KNOW A LOCAL BUSINESS THAT WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE ON AN APPRENTICE IF, IF SAY FOR INSTANCE LAUREL RIDGE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
LIKE, I THINK A GUY IS, IS TRYING TO GET INTO AN HVAC JOB.
HE HAS, YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK BEFORE HE CAN GET HIS JOURNEYMAN AND THEN HE HAS TO THEN, YOU KNOW, CAN TAKE SOME TRAINING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, UM, BUT FRANK UNFORTUNATELY COULD SPEAK PROBABLY WAY BETTER TO THAT THAN I CAN.
UM, MY TRADE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, APPRENTICESHIPS LIKE THAT SO MUCH.
AND LET'S TALK ABOUT ASSET DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ONE GOT A LOT OF STICKIES, SO NO, NO TRACTION ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY BUILDING DOWNTOWN FOR DANCES OR GATHERINGS.
UH, CREATE A VIBRANT ARTS AND MUSIC SCENE AND BUILD NEW OUTDOOR AMENITIES TO MAKE TOWN ATTRACTIVE TO NEW BUSINESSES AND THEIR EMPLOYEES.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
WELL, I MEAN, LIKE, I'M WONDERING THE, THAT COMMENT GET WRITTEN BEFORE THE PAVILION WAS CONSTRUCTED DOWN THERE, MAYBE ISH.
TO BE CANDID, I THINK THE PAVILION WAS THERE FOR A YEAR BEFORE ANYBODY NOTICED IT.
SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN AFTER IT WAS BUILT, BUT BEFORE IT WAS NOTICED.
WE ALL NOTICED IT AFTER THE LADY RAN INTO IT.
WE, UM, AND I, AND THIS, I MEAN, AND IN FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMENT WAS ALSO WRITTEN BEFORE THERE WERE 10 MURALS ON MAIN STREET.
AND BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT MORE RESTAURANTS AND STOREFRONTS THAT ARE HAVING MUSIC AND OF COURSE GAZEBO GATHERINGS EVERY SUMMER.
AND SO, WELL THESE WERE COMMENTS OUT OF THE COMP PLAN, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S ONLY, I I THINK EV ALL THOSE THINGS WERE ALREADY IN PLACE BEFORE.
UM, BUT I, I, I MEAN, I MEAN, THERE COULD ALWAYS BE MORE, I WOULD STILL ARGUE THAT IF A, IF A, IF A BIG FISH WERE TRYING TO COME HERE AND BRING IN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND, AND THEY WERE HAVING TO RELOCATE, FOR INSTANCE, THERE, THERE IS AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THE TOWN NEEDS TO BE ATTRACTIVE FOR
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WHATEVER REASON FOR THOSE FOLKS.WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT IN THIS ROOM, I DON'T KNOW.
WE MAY ALL LIKE IT, OR MOST OF US THINK IT'S INTERESTING OR, YOU KNOW.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AFFECT IT OR IF WE SHOULD.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE OTHER THAN WE WANNA KEEP CONTINUING TO CULTIVATE THAT TYPE OF POSITIVE SCENE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? BECAUSE I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE HOW BRITA CAN DIRECTLY IMPACT THAT.
UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN KEEP CHEERING, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M CON I'M CONFUSED BY THE BUILD NEW OUTDOOR AMENITIES THING AS WELL.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THOSE AREN'T NECESSARILY RELATED.
I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE MOST OF THESE SO FAR WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE IF YOU PUT IN ON MAIN STREET INTO THEM.
I MEAN, YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT IN A CONCERT EVERY WEEKEND, THERE WOULD BE MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN EVERY WEEKEND.
I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, NO DOUBT, RIGHT? WHETHER THEY'RE GOING UP AND DOWN AND SHOPPING, THAT'S ANOTHER THING ENTIRELY.
I MEAN, I'M, I SIT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THOSE CONCERTS AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE STAY ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THE BATHROOMS ARE AVAILABLE, IT USED TO BE, WE WERE THE, YOU KNOW, WELL, I MEAN, HONESTLY IT WAS A THING AND, AND I HAD PEOPLE KIND OF POLICING THE DOOR FOR THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW? AND, UM, SO IT, IT'S, IT DOES, I MEAN, MUSIC OR ANY SORT OF EVENT LIKE THAT DEFINITELY DOES BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.
UM, I KNOW FOR OTHER ARTS, I MEAN, THEY HAD THE, UM, GOSH, WHAT WAS IT, WHAT'S THE THEATER UP IN? IT RELOCATED TO THE, IN THE OLD EDA BUILDING FOR A SHORT PERIOD SO LONG NO, IT, NO, IT WAS, UH, THE ONE THAT'S IN THE ONE FROM MIDDLETOWN? YES.
SO, I MEAN, THEY HAD, THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PUTTING ON PLAYS AND SHOWS HERE AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY, I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I HEARD WERE THAT THEY WEREN'T GETTING, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A KIND OF A DISCONNECT.
THE, THE FOLKS FROM WINCHESTER WEREN'T REALLY WILLING TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY TO FRONT ROYAL, UM, TO COME TO THE SHOWS.
IT WASN'T QUITE, IT WAS A NEAT SPACE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY NEAT SPACE THAT WHAT THEY DID WITH IT.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY, IT WAS ALWAYS, IT WAS ALWAYS A TEMPORARY SPACE.
I'M SORRY? IT WAS A TEMPORARY SPACE.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THEM TRYING TO PUT ON LIKE, WHEN ONE SHOW WENT DARK, THEY WERE GONNA, NO.
BUT AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE, I MEAN, THE ARTS DEFINITELY ARE A DRAW.
UM, IT, IT CREATES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, WE ALSO HAVE THE, THE CARDINALS.
THERE'S, I MEAN I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A BASEBALL GAME, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE CROWD, BUT DEPENDS ON THE NIGHT.
YEAH, SOMETIMES A COUPLE THOUSAND.
IT'S DO IT, SOMETIMES IT'S FULL, SOMETIMES IT'S TO HUNDRED 50 OR WHATEVER THEIR CAPACITY.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T GET IN FIREWORKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MIGHT DRAW MORE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THOSE THINGS, THOSE, THOSE THINGS DO DRAW, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT, YOU KNOW, UH, GOES BACK OUT INTO THE ACTUAL BUSINESSES AND DOLLARS AND CENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO NOT A, NOT A BAD THING, BUT NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT FRIDA CAN DIRECTLY I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE IT, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, YES, IT COULD BE BOLSTERED, BUT OKAY.
UH, CONTINUE MARKETING AND BRANDY EFFORTS AROUND FRONT ROYAL OF THE GATEWAY TO THE OUTDOORS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC, I, I SEE HAPPY POST-ITS, THAT'S GOOD.
ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU FEEL FRIDA CAN DO TO CONTINUE THOSE BRANDING EFFORTS? BECAUSE THAT FEELS LIKE A TOURISM MARKET, TOWN MARKETING, COUNTY MARKETING THING.
NOT NECESSARILY A FRIDA THING AGREED TO ME.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE.
LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR IT.
NOT, I WOULD LIKE SUPPORT ABOVE US.
UTILIZING THE COMP PLAN, WE'VE AGREED WITH THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT WE WANT CONTINUE TO HELP TO UTILIZE THE, HELP THE COMP PLAN TO SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE DECISION MAKING.
AND THEN STUDY THE VARIOUS CHAINS OF ACTIVITY FOR
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HOW RESIDENTS AND VISITORS MIGHT SPEND AN ENTIRE DAY IN A TOWN AND IDENTIFY GAPS FOR ATTRACTIONS AND NEW LAND USES.THIS FEELS LIKE THESE ARE FUN.
THIS FEELS LIKE TARGET SECTORS IN A HAT.
AND AS FAR AS LIKE DAY ITINERARIES, THAT'S TOURISM.
NOW I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE A WISHLIST OF BUSINESSES.
I NEED Y'ALL TO OPEN SOMEBODY TO OPEN.
AND I GOT SOME STUFF I CAN SEND YOU.
BUT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASED ON STUDYING THE CHAINS OF ACTIVITY.
I'M NOT, I MEAN, THAT ZIP LINE GUY HAD, HE SEEMED TO HAVE A GOOD CROWD.
AND THEN I THINK COVID JUST HIT HIM IN.
BUT IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS A UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE PARK.
HAVE AN OUTSIDE VENDOR LIKE THAT.
UM, THAT WAS COOL, BUT GOOD IDEA.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ONES FOR THE COMP PLAN, ARE ANY OF THEM JUMPING OUT AT YOU AS THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT WE MUST DO? I HAVE ONE, BUT IT'S NOT MY RODEO.
HOW YOU GONNA DO THAT? I HAVE TO GIVE A STUDY.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO THAT'S MAYBE A LOWER HANGING FRUIT? THAT PHRASE ALWAYS FELT WEIRD TO ME, BUT, UM, THAT MAYBE WOULDN'T COST US AS MUCH DOLLAR CAPITAL, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE TIME CAPITAL DIALOGUE.
THAT'S FREE TO DO TALKING WITH PEOPLE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ANY OTHER ONES OF 'EM? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THOSE TARGET SECTORS, THE STUDY PIECE, I FEEL LIKE I AGREE WITH NICK.
THAT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I HEAR OVER AND OVER.
I STILL THINK OVER HERE IN ASSET DEVELOPMENT.
I, I, I MEAN, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S A TOURISM THING, BUT I THINK THAT CHAIN OF ACTIVITY IS A, IT WOULD BE, UH, AN EYE-OPENER.
I THINK IN TERMS OF, AND AGAIN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD KIND OF FALL INTO THIS HERE WHERE THERE'S GAPS.
AND ALSO OVER THERE, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S, UM, TO ME UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO THE PARKS? WHAT ARE OUR, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS OF FRONT ROYAL DOING OR SAYING OR WHAT THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY FELT LIKE THERE NEEDED TO BE MORE DIVERSE CUISINES OR WHATEVER.
NO, THOSE COMMENTS ARE ALL MADE.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M, BUT I MEAN, THEY WERE, WEREN'T THEY KIND OF RANKED OR VOTED IN, OR NOT REALLY? I'M NOT, IT WAS JUST A, I'M NOT, IT COULD BE ONE PERSON.
MY, MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT IT, IT SORT OF TOOK, IT GOT VETTED IN A WAY.
I MEAN, WE COULD PROBABLY FIND TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WHO WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.
NO, I JUST, I, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY, UH, KIND OF AN INTERESTING THING IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING WHAT IT IS WE DO NEED, OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE THAT WISHLIST OF, OF THINGS.
UM, I REALLY WANT A PUMPKIN PATCH.
IF ANYBODY'S REALLY EXCITED TO WANNA START A PUMPKIN PATCH OR PICK YOUR OWN STRAWBERRY OR WHAT, I WOULD BE ALL OVER IT.
'CAUSE WE GET, WE GET THOSE QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, I, AND I CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS WE'RE GETTING IN THE VISITOR CENTER THINGS.
WE GET CALLS ABOUT EMAILS, PEOPLE JUST WALK.
I MEAN, WE HAD 21,000 PEOPLE COME THROUGH LAST YEAR.
YOU KNOW, WE IN THE VISITOR CENTER, LIKE WE CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO SOME OF THOSE CHAIN OF ACTIVITY PIECES AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT, I MEAN, I'M ALREADY HERE, SO I CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR FREE.
UM, BUT I, I AGREE THAT HAVING THOSE ACTIVITY PATTERNS, I MEAN, GREAT.
I MEAN, KNOW, I KNOW THAT IN, AGAIN, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO MY TRADE, BUT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE THINGS, A LOT OF BUSINESS NOW IT'S MORE ABOUT EXPERIENCE.
UM, AND, AND MAYBE NOT SO MUCH ABOUT A PURCHASE.
AND I THINK THAT PERHAPS FRONT ROYAL MIGHT NEED SOME OF THAT.
UM, I MEAN, I, I, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A THEATER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO THE THEATER, BOWLING ALLEY'S BUSY TOO.
UM, I THINK PEOPLE LIKE DOING STUFF AND, UM, NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS THAT KEEPS THE RESIDENTS BUSY AND OUT THERE SPENDING MONEY AND, AND, AND INVOLVED.
BUT IT ALSO, WHEN PEOPLE ARE HERE, THEY DON'T HIT THIS,
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UH, YOU KNOW, THAT MONDAY, THAT DARK MONDAY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.SO, BUT I THINK IT TIES INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOOSE END PIECES THERE.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MIGHT BE AREAS THAT, UM, COULD START GENERATING A LITTLE BIT OF EXCITEMENT FOR FRONT ROYAL.
FROM WHERE I STAND, IT SOUNDS LIKE FIGURING OUT WHAT WE HAVE AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE MISSING ARE THE, I MEAN, TO PUT A RUG BRUSH ON IT.
SO FIGURING OUT WHAT WE HAVE IS COST EFFECTIVE.
WE CAN DO THAT IN A PRETTY, UM, TIDY MANNER.
TRYING TO THINK OF A PRETTY WAY TO SAY CHEAP, BUT YES.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER ON OUR OWN WITHOUT ANY SORT OF OTHER STUDY PARTNERS.
I, I THINK, YEAH, I WAS ON A LIST.
I THINK WE'RE HEADED ON THIS ON, ON, ON THE RIGHT PATH, BECAUSE I THINK ONCE YOU DO AN INVENTORY OF YOUR EXISTING BUSINESSES, THAT'LL SHED LIGHT ON WHAT THEIR WORKFORCE CHALLENGES ARE, INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES FOR THEM TO EXPAND OR WHY THEY CAME HERE.
AND THEN TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT OUR INVENTORY IS AND ASSETS AND FINDING OUT HOW WE MIRROR THOSE, I THINK ARE REALLY THE TWO PILLARS THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BUILD UPON.
AND WHAT I, WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY.
OKAY, RICK, WHERE DO YOU THINK WE GO FROM HERE? I THOUGHT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU WHERE YOU SAID YOU COULD GO AROUND AND FIGURE ALL THAT OUT, BUT YEAH, I TOLD YOU I WAS HAPPY TO DRIVE AROUND AND MAKE AN INVENTORY OF EMPTY BUILDINGS AND FOR SALES SOUNDS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
I COULDN'T DO IT FROM THE TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT TO NOW.
THAT'S, THAT, THAT WE CAN, WE CAN TOTALLY FACILITATE ON OUR OWN.
UM, HOW DO WE WANNA, DO WE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW WE WANNA START DIALOGUE WITH BUSINESSES THAT EXIST? WELL, SO HOW DO WE MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE? WELL, SO I, WELL, WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE'RE GONNA MEET TODAY, BUT, UM, YEAH.
SO, SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, SO WE USE THESE AS A STARTING PLACE, IN MY OPINION, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT I DON'T THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS UP THERE THAT SOME OF US WANT TO WORK ON.
AND SO PERHAPS WE COULD DISTILL THIS DOWN, YOU KNOW, TO THE ONES THAT WE DECIDED TO KEEP TODAY AND THEN COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AT A REGULAR MEETING WITH SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS, AND WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT DIDN'T MAKE THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, THIS RIGHT.
OR IT WASN'T ON THERE, DIDN'T ON COMP PLAN.
WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THAT, WHAT WASN'T ON COMP PLAN.
BUT, BUT WE CAN FIRM UP, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE ON THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND I THINK YOU DID THAT WITH THE X'S AND THE CHECKS WE TRIED.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? SOUNDS GOOD, MAN.
I GUESS ON THE DIALOGUE WITH THIS WEEK, BUSINESS IS JUST, IT'S PROBABLY JUST CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER MEETING, ITEMIZE EXACTLY WHAT QUESTIONS WE WANT TO ASK THEM.
WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO FIND OUT? THAT'S A GOOD NOTE.
AND WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF DATA OR WHAT KIND OF, UH, INSIGHT WOULD THE CHAMBER HAVE ON THIS KIND OF STUFF? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY PARTNERED WITH THE CHAMBER.
I WOULD THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME DEGREE OF DIALOGUE.
UM, SEEMS, I MEAN, YEARS AGO I USED TO THINK THAT IT WAS, IT WAS, WHEN I CAME TO FRONT ROYAL, THERE WERE SO MANY GROUPS THAT WERE KIND OF CREATED BECAUSE THIS PERSON DIDN'T GET ALONG WITH THAT PERSON.
SO THEY TOOK THEIR BALL AND WENT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I LOOKED AT IT AS, OKAY, WELL THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I MEAN, THE, SAY THE SHOPPING CENTER, MARTIN SHOPPING CENTER VERSUS THE TARGET SHOP, THEY, THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN, UM, UNIQUE PROBLEMS AND, AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
BUT IT, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THE MORE YOU DIVIDE IT UP, THE LESS PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND, AND SO IT SEEMED TO ME AS THOUGH THAT SHOULD BE AN UMBRELLA.
MAYBE WE COULD BE THAT UMBRELLA.
I DON'T KNOW, UM, TO TIE TO, TO TRY NOT NECESSARILY TIE THEM ALL TOGETHER, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, TO SAY, OKAY, THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE COMMON.
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MM-HMM.AND THEN, UM, SO THAT WAS SORT OF SOMETHING WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, BUT I, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION IF MAYBE THE CHAMBER MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THIS, UM, A ABILITY CAPABILITY WHERE IT'S ONE PHONE CALL AND WE GET AN ANSWER TO SOME DEGREE, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THEM ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT POINT, DAVID, THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH SOME OF THESE, LIKE THE CHAMBER, THEY ALREADY BROADLY HAVE SOME, THEY'VE ALREADY CAPTURED SOME OF THAT INFORMATION FOR THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S AN ACTUAL GREAT IDEA TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE, I I KNOW THAT THE, WHAT'S IT CALLED, ROYAL PLAZA HAS THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S FRIDA OR FREE FREE REBA.
UM, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE TOO.
THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S, ISN'T THAT WHAT, WHAT IT'S CALLED NOW THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO START AGAIN? LIKE WITH ALLEN? YEAH.
THAT'S DOWNTOWN FRONT ROYAL DOWNTOWN.
AND, AND WE WON'T, AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY TALK TO
THE ONLY TIME THAT I REALLY SEE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH PARKING IS WHEN THERE'S A FESTIVAL ON MAIN STREET.
AND, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACES STILL AVAILABLE, I DON'T, I I DON'T KNOW.
YOU'RE USUALLY IN YOUR KITCHEN WHEN ANY OF THAT HAPPENS.
AND I MEAN, I, I LOOK OUT THE WINDOWS, WE SEE THINGS GOING ON BECAUSE IT, IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT, IT CORRELATES TO US BEING BUSY OR SLOW.
I MEAN, THERE ARE TIMES, THERE ARE TIMES OF DAY WHERE THERE'S NOT A PARKING SPACE TO BE FOUND THESE DAYS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE DOWNTOWN IS BUSY.
BUT, UM, AND, BUT IT'S, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, BUT THEN IS IT TURNING OTHER PEOPLE OFF AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE, TRYING TO FIND A SPOT.
I, I THINK THERE IS MORE CAPACITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAN THERE ARE PARKING SPACES.
YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, IF YOU SAID YOU HAVE YOUR RESTAURANT AND SOME OF THE OTHER RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, ON CUE THE MOVIE THEATER, I MEAN, I CAN FIT 500 PEOPLE IN THE MOVIE THEATER AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO IF IF, IF I HAD A REALLY POPULAR MOVIE AND IT STARTED AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THERE WOULDN'T BE PARKING FOR PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GO OUT AT SIX O'CLOCK WHEN THEY CAME TO TOWN.
YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD A REALLY POPULAR MOVIE LIKE THAT IN A WHILE.
SAW THE, SAW THE TRAILER FOR THAT YESTERDAY DURING THE SUPER BOWL.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT AVENUES TO GATHER SOME OF THIS INFORMATION THAT MIGHT ALREADY EXIST.
AND WE WON'T LIMIT OR NARROW IT TO JUST THOSE MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATIONS, RIGHT.
YOU GOTTA PAY TO BE A MEMBER OF THE CHAMBER OR, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PUBLICLY GATHERING THAT INFORMATION TOO, IN CASE SO WE CATCH ANY STRAGGLERS.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANNA ASK IN THIS DIALOGUE.
UM, I WILL DISTILL ALL OF THIS DOWN TO THE ONES THAT HAVE SEEMED RELEVANT TODAY, UM, OR IMPERATIVE TODAY.
AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE CURRENT PLAN DIDN'T NECESSARILY GRAB.
CAN YOU, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DECIDED THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING, RIGHT? CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE A DRAFT OF SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE ADDRESSED BY EXISTING BUSINESSES? RIGHT.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY THAT COME TO YOU RIGHT.
PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME SO THAT I CAN INCLUDE ALL YOU GUYS ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT MONITOR THERE,
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, UH, REACH OUT TO US AND, UM SURE.
BECAUSE I'VE DEFINITELY GIVEN THAT ONE SOME THOUGHT.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT, AGAIN, I THINK A LOT OF, I THINK A LOT OF EXISTING BUSINESSES MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT WE MAY NOT DIRECTLY THINK OF.
UM, AND I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WHETHER IT, WHETHER IT BE A WEBSITE OR A FORM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT JUST GETS FILLED OUT ONLINE AND,
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AND COMPILED SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.TRY TO, TRY TO MEET THEM AS EASILY AND EXCESSIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDING ME SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
YEAH, I, I'VE WRITTEN SOME STUFF DOWN THAT WAY I CAN PUT IT IN THE DRAFT.
AND IT CAN LIVE ON THE TOWN WEBSITE VERY EASILY.
IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE A COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS.
HONESTLY, I THINK THE BEST QUALITY OF INFORMATION IS GONNA COME FROM TALKING FACE TO FACE, WORKING TO PERSON, PERSON TO PERSON.
I MEAN, I MEAN, AND THAT'S VERY LABOR INTENSIVE, BUT WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS.
WE CAN INVITE SURVEYS, BUT TOTALLY.
I THINK THAT WE MAY WANT TO SCHEDULE SOME IN-PERSON VISITS WITH SOME FOLKS AND, YOU KNOW, GET THEIR INPUT.
SO SHE WANTS TO MAKE THINGS MORE CLEAR FOR FOLKS, UM, SO THAT THE PATH IS CLEAR AND EASIER.
AND I SAID, WELL, THAT'S FUNNY.
'CAUSE EDA WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING, SO EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE SINGING FROM THE SAME SONGBOOK.
SO I HAVE MY MARCHING ORDERS FOR NEXT MEETING.
ANYTHING ELSE, JOE, THAT I'M FORGETTING? NO, YOU SAID, UM, JUST REMEMBER THESE FIVE BUCKETS.
SO IF YOU THINK OF SOME GOALS YOU WANT US TO START WORKING ON YEAH.
JUST KINDA LAY 'EM OUT IN THOSE BUCKETS.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA START FILLING THOSE BUCKETS UP WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT TODAY AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL SPUR MORE OUR GOALS.
IF YOU'VE GOT MORE, THEN SEND 'EM MY WAY WITH WHAT BUCKET YOU THINK THEY FIT IN AND WE WILL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE OUR BUCKETS.
HOW MANY TIMES CAN WE USE THE WORD BUCKET IN ONE SENTENCE? AREAS OF INTEREST?
FOR THE COMMITTEES, FOR THE QUESTIONS FOR EXISTING BUSINESS.
WE CAN THROW THE, UH, ENCOURAGING BUSINESS TO REMAIN OPEN AT 5:00 PM WE CAN THROW THAT INTO THE PART OF THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT ARE, THAT'S A GOOD FOR YOUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE HOURS YOU'VE FOUND OR RIGHT.
OR WHAT MIGHT BE LIMITING AND WHY.
WHAT DO WE HAVE? WHAT DO WE NEED? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.