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WORLD PLANNING COMMISSION.[Planning and Zoning Work Session on February 7, 2024.]
FEBRUARY THE SEVENTH, 2024.AND WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MS. POTTER, WHEN YOU'RE READY.
VICE CHAIRMAN MARNER IS ABSENT.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM.
OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT.
APPLICATION 2 4 0 0 0 1 3, WHICH IS A REZONING APPLICATION, UH, SUBMITTED BY FERNANDO ARANA PERELL REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP.
RECLASSIFY 1724 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP 20 A TWO DASH TWO DASH 11 FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL TO R ONE A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ALL RIGHT, YOU BETTER GOING HOME BUDDY.
UH, THE APPLICATION FOR REVIEW IS REQUESTING AMENDMENT OF THE ZONING MAP TOWN FRONT ROYAL, UH, TO RECLASSIFY.
NORTH ROYAL AVENUE IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 28 2 TO 11 FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R ONE A RESIDENTIAL HISTORY.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 175 FEET SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST 18TH STREET AND NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.
I INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS A STAFF REPORT, A REZONING APPLICATION, THE STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, A BOUNDARY PLA SHOWING THE EXISTING PARCEL AND A SKETCH PLANT SHOWING THE PROPOSED DIVISION OF THE PARCEL.
THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PARCEL R ONE.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING IT TO BE REZONED R ONE A.
THERE IS R ONE A, UH, PARCELS, UH, ACROSS THE STREET HERE AND ON DOWN UH, NORTH RURAL AVENUE THERE.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR THIS AREA OF WARREN PARK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TWO FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES AND INFIELD DEVELOPMENT WILL MATCH THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, NO PROPERS WERE MADE BY THE APPLICANT.
WE CAN'T GET THE THING TO ADVANCE CONNIE.
AND ONCE YOU TURN THAT LITTLE LIGHT THING, SOMETIMES THAT'LL, LET ME SEE IF THIS'LL WORK NOW TRY IT AND SEE IF IT'LL KEEP IT.
SO THERE'S A VIEW OF THE HOME, THE PRESENT EXISTING HOUSE ON THE LOT, UH, BESIDE VIEW THERE.
UH, THIS PORTION HERE IS AN ALLEY THAT REACHES TO THE BACK LOTS FOR ONE LOT.
I THINK IT, UH, SERVES BACK THERE AND THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE REMAINING PART OF THE LOT WITH CURB AND GUTTER THAT THE TOWN PUT IN PLACE HERE SOME TIME AGO.
UH, THE R ONE ZONING REQUIRES MINIMUM LOT SIZES TO BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET WITH PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE.
THIS CURRENTLY, THIS LOT IS NEARLY ONE ACRE, 43,333 ODD SQUARE FEET.
SO THE HOUSE, THE CURRENT HOUSE SITS HERE WITH THE ALLEY HERE ON THE SIDE NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.
UH, BUT TOWN CODE ON A DEFINITION A LOT HAS TO FACE ON A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREET.
UM, THE MINIMUM WIDTH FOR THE SETBACK LINE FOR THE R ONE IS 75 FEET AND THE CURRENT LOT HAS ROAD FRONTAGE OF OVER 124, BUT IT'S A ONE ACRE LOT.
BASICALLY R ONE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IS 7,000
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SQUARE FEET.UH, TO PROPOSE NEW LOTS WOULD BE 13,258 FOR THE EXISTING HOME AND REMAINDER OF 30,076 SQUARE FEET FOR THE NEW LOCK, THE PROPOSED NEW LOCK WOULD BE BASICALLY 73 FOOT WIDE ON THE EXISTING, UH, HOUSE THERE AND 51 FEET WIDE ON THE PROPOSED LOT.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, THEY'RE ASKING FOR REZONING AND UH, IF IT IS ALLOWED TO BE REZONED, THEY WOULD COME AND DO A SUBDIVISION OF THAT LOT TO CREATE TWO LOTS.
ONE WITH EXISTING HOUSE ON IT AND ONE FOR A NEW LOT WITH ONE PROPOSED DWELLING ON IT.
UH, SO THEY HAVE ONE ACRE LAND THERE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO OPTIMIZE THE USE OF IT BEING ONE ACRE AND PUT IN ANOTHER HOUSE ON THAT, WHICH BASICALLY WE HAVE MORE OF.
THESE WILL BE COMING UP WITH INFIELD LOTS.
THEY CANNOT SUBDIVIDE IT ON THE ALLEY TO MAKE ESSENTIALLY WITH 10,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GOT OF AN ACRE, YOU COULD GO, GOT FOUR LOTS THERE, BUT THE TOWN CODE DOES NOT ALLOW THAT TO BE ACCESSED BY THE ALLEY.
THEY NEED TO ACCESS IT FROM NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT PART? SO JUST TO CONFIRM THOUGH, IT'S, IT IS GONNA FACE NORTH ROYAL AND THAT DRIVE THAT NEW DRIVEWAY, THAT'S
UH, YES, WOULD BE HERE RIGHT ON UH, NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, UH, TO ACCESS IT.
THEY COULD ALSO ACCESS IT FROM THIS ALLEY IF THEY DESIRED.
SO, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE ACCESS OFF NORTH ROYAL AND JOHN, YOU SHOWED US A PICTURE EARLIER.
THE CURB AND GUTTERING ENDS PRIOR TO THE, OKAY, THERE IT IS.
UH, IT COMES UP A PORTION OF THAT, UM, THERE.
SO THE LOT, THE NEW LOT, THE ENTRANCE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN HERE, GONE TO THE BACK THERE WHERE THEY PUT THE DRIVEWAY IN FOR THAT LOT.
REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE REZONING PART.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL SUBDIVISION OF THE LOT.
JUST LOOKING AT WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO REZONE FROM R ONE TO R ONE K.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I MEAN A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, I'M ASSUMING THEY COULD, UH, ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.
THERE'S A REZONING OR THE REZONING AREAS AGAIN THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, YOU THINK HAD ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON.
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPLICATION 2 4 0 0 0 1 6.
A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
UH, LET'S SEE TO ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 3 22 CUR FOOT AVENUE.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, PERMIT 24 0 0 1 6 SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR TERM RENTAL IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 28 6 7 DASH 10 LOTS, 38, 39, 40, 41, AND 42.
THIS IS IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
UM, THE REQUEST IS FOR A PARTIAL HOUSE RENTAL OF THE SINGLE DWELLING, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FOR TWO BEDROOMS FOR FOUR PEOPLE.
THE HOUSE CURRENTLY HAS THREE BEDROOMS IN IT AND THE HOME WILL BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
UH, SITE INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED ON JANUARY 25TH AND WAS FOUND IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION.
OFF STREET PARKING IS AVAILABLE IN THE PAVED AREA NEXT TO THE HOME, WHICH OFFERS SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THE INTENDED USE, INCLUDING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AND THE PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE OF THE HOME OCCU OR THE O OWNER OCCUPIED DWELLING.
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AND, UH, THERE'S A FLAT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SHOWING THE HOUSE AND THE DRIVE, UH, PAVED DRIVEWAY THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE PLAT.UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THEY DID SUBMIT A COMPLETE PACKAGE WITH A MANAGEMENT PLAN, EVACUATION PLANS OF THE ROOMS. UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A PARTIAL RENTAL OWNER OCCUPIED.
THOSE ARE USUALLY A COUPLE QUESTIONS WE GET, SO I JUST WANTED TO STRESS THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT ONE, BUT I'M GONNA FIND IT.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS WELL DONE.
UH, AS FAR AS THE PACKAGE THAT THEY SUBMITTED AND, UH, THAT IT ACCENTS A LOT OF THE POSITIVES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BEAUTY OF THE COMMUNITY AND VISITING AND, YOU KNOW, SPENDING TOURIST MONEY HERE AND THINGS FOR THEM TO DO.
THE ONLY THING IT GIVES ME HEARTBURN, UM, IS IN THE HOUSE RULES SECTION.
I, IF YOU LOOK ON, I I'VE DONE AN ON ONSITE VISIT AS WELL AND, AND THERE'S UM, JOHN HAS TALKED ABOUT IT.
YES, THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING FOR THREE BEDROOM.
IT'S A NICE WIDE, UM, A FENCED IN BACKYARD.
WHAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN IS UNDER HOUSE RULES.
NO MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE SHALL BE IN THE HOME IN ANY ONE TIME.
UM, MAYBE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT.
WHY CAN THE APPLICANT CHAIR, OH, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, WE CAN, IF THEY WOULD WANNA SPEAK.
I'M ONE OF THE APPLICANTS CAN YOU COME UP FRONT PLEASE? AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE DO THAT IS, OH, THIS IS VIDEO RECORDED AND THE HOME PEOPLE AT HOME CAN ABSOLUTELY.
SO SPECIFIC TO, UM, THE, UH, UNDER HOUSE RULES, YES.
NO MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE SHALL BE IN THE HOME AT ANY ONE TIME, RIGHT? UM, THAT WAS, UH, KIND OF A NUMBER WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IN TERMS OF PEOPLE VISITING THE OCCUPANTS.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD EVER BE MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE, AS WE UNDERSTAND THE, UH, ESPECIALLY IT WAS PERMIT LIMITS SET TO FOUR PEOPLE, TWO PEOPLE PER BEDROOMS, AND WE HAVE TWO, RIGHT? SO, UM, 20 PEOPLE WAS KIND OF AN ARBITRARY NUMBER THAT WE FELT COMFORT, WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.
UM, MY MY CONCERN WOULD BE, OKAY, UH, WIFE AND I COME IN TOWN, WE RENT YOUR PLACE, WE'RE GONNA ATTEND A WEDDING, AND WELL Y'ALL COME ON BACK TO THE PLACE AND WE'RE GONNA HANG OUT IN THE BACKYARD.
AND NOW THERE'S 22 PEOPLE, PROBABLY 10 CARS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES CONSENT.
RIGHT? UM, I MEAN, FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DOING, I COULDN'T FIND ANY, ANY REAL FAULT.
I, I THINK IT'S A WELL DONE PLAN, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT IT DOES, IF I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR AND, YOU KNOW, YOU COME BACK AT A WEDDING AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND 20 PEOPLE FOLLOW YOU, I, I I CAN'T ENVISION WHAT THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE IS LIKE, BUT I'M IMAGINING IT'S GONNA FLOW OUT IN THE BACKYARD.
NOW YOU COULD HAVE 20 OVER AS AND NOBODY COULD SAY ANYTHING, BUT AGAIN, UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND WE DO HAVE TO THINK HOW THIS DOES FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, NOT MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A LOT OF CARS.
SO THAT MY ONLY QUESTION, MY ONLY CONCERN, OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S A WELL DONE APPLICATION.
WOULD WOULD YOU ALL BE, UM, I, YOU ALL ARE LIVING ON SITE CORRECTLY.
DO YOU, YOU HAVE A SEPARATE LIVING QUARTER, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY SEPARATE CORRECT PEOPLE, CORRECT.
I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE SEPARATE, UM, DI YOU'RE ON SEPARATE DINING AND ALL THAT STUFF AS WELL? OR? UH, SO IT WOULD BE SHARED, IT WOULD BE SHARED, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO WE WOULD BE HIS OWNER OCCUPIED, SO WE WOULD BE THERE AS WELL.
SO THE, THE HOME WOULD BE SHARED WITH THE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTERS.
WOULD YOU ENVISION YOU ALL BEING THERE WHEN THE SHORT-TERM RENTERS ARE THERE? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND I, I RESPECT YOUR CONCERNS.
MY ONLY THING IS WE HAVE TOWN CODES THAT THEY'RE NOISE ORDINANCES.
AS LONG AS THEY'RE BEING ENFORCED RIGHT THEN, I MEAN, I'D
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BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 10 THAN 20 I AND MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORS, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF, OF, OF ADDITIONAL VISITS.UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO AMEND IT WITH WHAT'S IN MIND THERE.
IS THERE A OCCUPANCY MATCHING OR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS WITHIN THE CAP TOWN CLOSED? THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THERE CAN BE MORE THAN TWO OCCUPANTS PER BEDROOM.
WITH THEM HAVING TWO BEDROOMS THAT THEY'RE OFFERING, THEY'RE CAPTIVE FOR OVERNIGHT GUESTS.
SO, AND, AND THAT'S FOR THAT MM-HMM
SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S STILL CONSIDERED A RESIDENTIAL USE.
SO THERE IS NO, YEAH, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN HERE FOR LIKE, THAT'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE HERE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, LIKE WITH THEIR APPLICATION, IF THEY PERMIT PEOPLE TO COME TO THEIR HOME, RIGHT.
IF THEY VIOLATE THE NOISE ORDINANCE THEN OR SOME OTHER ASPECT OF TOWN CODE CORRECT AND THE POLICE GET CALLED, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, THAT'S GONNA BE OKAY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WE HAD TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
UM, I'M SAYING I'M A, I'M A CO-APPLICANT, BUT I THINK I MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, EDUCATED TO ADDRESS YOUR NOISE ORDINANCE CONCERNS.
UM, AS PART OF OUR HOUSE RULES, THERE IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE LISTED.
UM, QUIET HOURS ARE FROM 10:00 PM TO 7:00 AM WE ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THE NOISE, THE TOWN CODE FOR NOISE ORDINANCE IN THE HANDBOOK IN OUR APPLICATION AND IT'S IN THE HOME.
AND WE SAY THAT WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO, THERE'S PENALTY FEES IF YOU DISTURB NEIGHBORS OR IF YOU EXTEND THE QUIET HOURS.
SO EVEN IF PEOPLE DO BRING PEOPLE OVER, IF THERE'S AN OCCASION AND IT'S LATE AT NIGHT, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO BE ABIDING BY THOSE RULES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE HOUSE LAWS.
BUT WE ARE NOT PASSIONATE ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE OVER.
WE JUST KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PREVIOUSLY HAVE TRIED TO LOOK FOR AIRBNBS TO HAVE PEOPLE OVER BUT NOT SPEND THE NIGHT HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH THAT.
SO WE ARE WANTING TO ACCOMMODATE WITH OUR OWN SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATION, WE'RE NOT SUPER TIED TO IT.
IF IT IS AN ISSUE, THEN WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CHANGE IT TO NO MORE THAN JUST THE GUESTS THAT WOULD BE STAYING OVERNIGHT.
THE, THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU ALL PRESENTED THIS IS OUTSTANDING.
THIS IS VERY, THIS IS VERY, A LOT OF TIME ON THIS TOGETHER.
A LOT OF PASSION INTO IT AS WELL.
LIKE I SAID, MORE PEOPLE WOULD, AND I SAW WHERE YOU QUOTE IT ALL THE ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING.
THAT'S THE ONLY HANGUP THAT I HAVE ON IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE TOO MANY PEOPLE, BUT THANK YOU.
YEAH, WE REALLY LOVE THE TOWN AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HELP MORE PEOPLE LEARN TO LOVE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU'ALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION? NO.
APPLICATION 2 4 0 0 0 1 8, WHICH IS A REONE.
YEAH, THAT'S THE APPLICATION FOR REVIEW IS REQUESTING AMENDMENT OF THE ZONING MAP THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECLASSIFY 1324 OLD WINCHESTER PI IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 28 1 24 UH DASH SIX, UH, FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF EAST STRASBURG ROAD AND ON WINCHESTER PIKE, UH, THERE YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING OF R ONE.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED R THREE.
INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS A STAFF REPORT, THE REZONING APPLICATION, A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION AND A BOUNDARY SURVEY OF THE EXISTING PARCEL.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAUSED FOR THIS AREA OF RIVERTON TO BE MIXED USE, INTENDED FOR THE MIXTURE OF USES THAT EMULATE A SMALL HISTORIC VILLAGE WITH A PRIMARY USE FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL AND LODGING.
NO PROMPTERS WERE MADE BY THE APPLICANT.
THERE'S A VIEW, A STREET VIEW OF THE CURRENT HOUSE WITH PARKING THERE
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ON THE ROAD.OLD WINCHESTER PIKE, UH, USES PERMITTED IN THE R ONE BASICALLY ARE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, DETACHED CHURCHES, PUBLIC LIBRARIES, SCHOOLS, OPEN SPACE AND PUBLIC PARKS, ET CETERA.
SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT USE IS ALLOWED IN THE R ONE WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
OUR BED AND BREAKFASTS AND THAT HAS ITS OWN SECTION OF TOWN CODE, A DAYCARE, WHICH HAS ITS OWN SECTION OF TOWN CODE.
THEY NEED TO ABIDE BY COMMUNITY CENTERS, FIRE AND RESCUE SQUADS AND POLICE STATIONS.
SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY USES WITH THE, AND ALSO THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE R ONE.
SO WHAT THE R THREE, SOME OTHER PICTURES OF THE LOT, UH, DOWN AT THE RIGHT FRONT PROPERTY LINE HAD, THEY HAVE A, A BRICK WALL ON THE FRONT.
THE ENTIRE LOT IS, UH, FENCED IN, UH, WITH WOODEN AND WIRE FENCING.
THEY HAVE A THREE CAR GARAGE IN THE BACK PLUS AMPLE GRAVEL PARKING IN THE REAR.
UH, USES PERMITTED BY RIDE IN THE R THREE DISTRICT DUPLEXES, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED TOWN HOMES ON SITES OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS, HOSPITALS, PHARMACEUTICAL CENTERS, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, NURSING HOMES, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS OPEN SPACE AND PUBLIC PARKS, UH, PERMIT, UH, USES PERMITTED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
APARTMENTS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CODE ALSO 1 7 5 1 13 TOWN HOMES ON SITES OVER ONE ACRE, WHICH IS PROPERTY IS NOT, UH, BED AND BREAKFAST WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND THAT, UH, HAS ITS OWN SECTION.
ALSO COMMUNITY CENTERS, DAYCARE, NURSING HOMES, ART GALLERIES, FIRE AND RESCUE SQUADS, POLICE STATIONS AND PUBLIC LIBRARIES.
ALSO WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS LODGING HOUSES, ROOMING HOUSES AND BOARDING HOUSES.
I BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THE, UH, PREVIOUS OWNER OPERATED A BED AND BREAKFAST OUT OF THIS HOME WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, WE DID NOT FIND ONE OF RECORD, UH, WHICH PROBABLY, UH, LEADS TO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE REASON.
UH, THEY HAD A BIGGER PARKING LOT THERE IN THE BACK.
UH, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, THEY, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE HOME AS A BED AND BREAKFAST, ASSUMED THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE A BED AND BREAKFAST AS THE USE.
UH, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AND THE REASON THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REZONING, IF YOU READ THE STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH TOWN CODE.
SO THIS PART OF THE APPLICATION IS REZONING OF IT FROM R ONE TO R THREE.
AND THAT'S HOW THE, UH, AND WITH THE R THREE, IT DOES ALLOW, AGAIN, WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, ONLY THE LODGING HOUSES OR A BED AND BREAKFAST, A SEPARATE APPLICATION, UH, WILL COME, UH, POTENTIALLY WITH THAT IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING THIS HOUSE AND THE USE INTO COMPLIANCE.
UH, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERLAY MAP FOR A MOMENT PLEASE? YES.
I BELIEVE IT WAS POINTED OUT, JOHN, THAT, UM, THE ORANGE AREA ALREADY OR THREE? CORRECT.
AND THAT WAS A BED AND BREAKFAST OR IS A I'VE SEEN A SIGN THERE THAT WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE IT WAS A BED AND BREAKFAST.
AND IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST THERE'S A, A STREET THAT RUNS UP THERE AND I CAN'T IT 2 1 2 3 6 2 1 6, I CAN'T READ IT.
THAT'S LACK OF ONE BED AND BREAKFAST.
AND THEN AT THE CORNER OF, UM, EAST SALSBURG ROAD AND OLD WINCHESTER PIKE IS A, WAS AT ONE TIME AT A LOING HOUSE.
I BELIEVE IT'S NOW ON APARTMENT HOUSE, CORRECT? YEAH.
NOW WHETHER THOSE ARE NONCONFORMING USES, I'M ASSUMING.
AND THAT IS, THAT'S UH, PUT THAT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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ASSUMPTION THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE TO USE AS A BED AND BREAKFAST AND ACTUALLY I THINK CAME IN FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE.AND THAT'S WHEN WE DISCOVERED, UH, THE PROPERTY DID NOT HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THEY, WE DISCUSSED THEIR OPTIONS AND THOUGHT THAT POTENTIAL REZONING WOULD WORK IN THIS MANNER HERE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FOR TOWN STAFF? NO.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THEY DID INCLUDE A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION IN THAT, CORRECT? YES SIR.
THAT CONCLUDES THE, UH, WORK SESSION BUSINESS WITH THE APPLICATIONS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS.
SO, UM, RECENTLY, UH, TOWN STAFF HAS CREATED, UM, A GENERAL PLANNING COMMISSION EMAIL.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, DEPARTMENT PAGE.
ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE THERE'S A TAB FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF, UH, THAT'S CLICKED ON, UH, IT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO JUST CLICK THAT LINK AND THEY WILL, IF THEY WANT TO SEND PUBLIC COMMENT OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, THAT IS AUTOMATICALLY SENT OUT TO ALL OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THEN IT IS ALSO SENT TO MYSELF AND TO THE CLERK CONNIE.
AND THE REASON STAFF NEEDS TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT IS JUST FOR THE RECORDS.
UM, AND THIS ALSO PREVENTS ONE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER FROM GETTING COMMENTARY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS ARE NOT GETTING.
SO WE JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT IT'S THERE.
AND THAT IS GOING TO YOUR TOWN EMAIL, NOT YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL.
I'D LIKE TO STOP SENDING OUT EMAILS TO BOTH YOUR PRIVATE AND TOWN OR IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR TOWN EMAIL? I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
WHY ARE YOU STARING? IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES GETTING INTO YOUR EMAIL, LET LET US KNOW.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY.
AND FOR THE PUBLIC, I THINK THE PUBLIC TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY, UH, THAT THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY SEND IT THERE, WE'RE ALL GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
MIKE'S NOT GONNA FIND OUT SOMETHING THAT BRIAN DOESN'T KNOW OR YOU DON'T KNOW, OR I DON'T DUNNO.
AGAIN, THE WHOLE REASON STAFF NEEDS TO HAVE IT IS JUST FOR THE RECORD.
THE CLERK NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A COPY OF IT.
AND I'D, I'D ASK MR. SONNET IF YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR THE COMMISSION, IF THEY GET AN EMAIL, UH, AS FAR AS RESPONDING TO IT, ANY ADVICE? UM, WELL CERTAINLY IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UH, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD NOT INDEPENDENTLY RESPOND TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I MEAN THERE, THERE, THAT'S WHAT PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE FOR, FOR INSTANCE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE FORUM FOR HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.
IT'S THE FORUM FOR HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT, UM, NOR WOULD YOU WANT TO PREVENT NECESSARILY ACCESS, UM, BY THE PUBLIC TO THE COMMISSION.
BUT THIS, THIS, UH, PROCESS KEEPS IT UNIFORM.
UM, I I THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, YOU KNOW.
UM, WOULD THEY ACKNOWLEDGED, RECEIVED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR JUST, I THINK YOU WOULD JUST, IT, IT IS A ONE-WAY TRANSMISSION.
RECEIVE IT, I THINK RECEIVE IT AND READ IT.
JUST SAYING IT BE NO DIFFERENT THAN IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD WOULD SAY IS WE DON'T RESPOND TO, I GUESS IF IT, I GUESS MY ANSWER WOULD BE IF IT'S A, NOT A, AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT A COMMISSIONER FEELS COMPELLED TO RESPOND, MAYBE DO THAT IN PUBLIC.
MAYBE DO RESPOND DURING THE COMMENT SECTION OF PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT, MOVING ALONG.
SO ANNUALLY, UH, TYPICALLY IT'S FEBRUARY.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO KIND OF READ BACK THROUGH YOUR BYLAWS.
LET US, AT THIS POINT WHAT WE WANNA KNOW IS DO YOU LIKE
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THEM THE WAY THEY ARE, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT MADE HAPPY WITH IT? UM, AND IF SO, THEN WE WON'T, WE WON'T MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS TO IT, BUT THIS IS THE MONTH OF THE YEAR WHERE WE KIND OF LOOK AT THIS AND SO, AND THEY WERE LAST APPROVED, UM, IN APRIL OF 2022.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS, THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS TO THE BYLAWS? I, I DID NOT HAVE ANY.
I THOUGHT I'M, I'M FINE WITH THEM.
I'M ASSUMING STAFF HAS NO RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
NO, I, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO MAKE.
WE DO MOVING FORWARD, UH, 2023 ANNUAL REPORT.
STATE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FURNISH THEIR ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, THIS GIVES YOU THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL PLANNING AND ZONING ACTIVITIES FROM THE 2023 YEAR.
AND I BELIEVE THIS ALSO INCLUDES THIS INCLUDE THE BZA AND THE OTHER BOARDS.
THE STAFF, EVERYTHING OUR DEPARTMENT DOES, IT'S IN THIS REPORT.
UM, AND TONIGHT WE JUST NEED YOU TO BASICALLY GIVE IT THIS BLESSING AND THEN WE WILL GET THIS, UM, ON THE INTERNET OR ON THE DEPARTMENT PAGE.
BUT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE TOTALS.
WE HAD 407 CODE CASES FOR LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE, BETWEEN MONICA, UH, AND JOHN AC COMPANY.
HER, WE HAD 1,228 INSPECTIONS.
UM, WE ISSUED 393 ZONING PERMITS.
WE HAD 36 LAND USE APPLICATIONS.
SO THOSE ARE APPLICATIONS THAT GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL.
WE HAD FIVE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I BELIEVE WE'RE AT 19 SHORT TERM RENTALS TOTAL SINCE WE ADOPTED THAT SECTION OF THE CODE.
WE HAD FOUR PROPOSED TAX AMENDMENTS.
WE ISSUED 62 SIGNED PERMITS, 148 BUSINESS LICENSES, AND WE HAD 32 NEW DWELLING UNITS.
UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE THE BAR HAD 11.
THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW HAD 11 APPROPRIATENESS THAT THEY HEARD, AND WE HAD 18 URBAN AGRICULTURE PERMITS.
AND THEN IN 2023, UM, THEY RIGHT AWAY UTILIZATION PERMITS CAME INTO THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
THEY INITIALLY WERE IN PUBLIC WORKS AND WE ISSUED 46 OF THOSE.
YEAH, THAT WAS, WE RECEIVED 80 YESTERDAY, 88 O SO THERE MAY BE A BIT OF A BACKLOG AND PERMITS WHILE WE GET THOSE 81 PERSON.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
ARE WE GOOD TO PUT THIS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE AND PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC? OFFICIALLY? YEAH.
AND CHAIRMAN WELLS WILL BE PRESENTING THIS TO TOM COUNCIL, I THINK AT THE FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING.
UNLESS ANYBODY WANTS TO GO FOR ME.
SO YOU WERE REQUESTED SPECIFICALLY? MM-HMM.
THAT WAS THE DAY I HAD OVERTIME.
GET IT POSTED AND, AND PUBLIC.
UH, SO THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, AS STAFF IS WORKING WITH SUMMIT ON THIS, UM, ON REWRITING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND, AND EDITING THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF FORM KIND OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS IN THE TOWN TO JUST KIND OF GIVE SOME, GIVE STAFF SOME INPUT AS TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST START THE CONVERSATION AND THEN BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN EVENTUALLY TO THE ON COUNCIL AS WELL.
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WITH THE COMP PLAN, GATHERING PUBLIC INPUT AND SUGGESTIONS OR QUESTION.AND THIS ISN'T GONNA BE A, LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES WITH THIS PROCESS, BUT I THINK IF WE PULL CITIZENS IN FROM DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT INTERACT WITH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE ON A REGULAR BASIS, I THINK THAT IT'LL PROVIDE SOME VALUABLE INSIGHT.
LIKE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, LIKE FREEDOM OR SMALL BUSINESSES.
YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY PLACES WHERE THE ZONING ORDINANCE COULD BE HINDERING A BUSINESS OR WHAT'S MAKING IT DIFFICULT THAT IF IT'S LEGAL TO CHANGE IT, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT REDUCING SOME SETBACKS OR SOME LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS TO ENCOURAGE INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, GET INPUT ON, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, IN INSTITUTING LIKE MAXIMUM PARKING STANDARDS INSTEAD OF MINIMUM PARKING STANDARDS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE MENTIONED REPEATEDLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT BEFORE WE JUST PUT IT IN A BRAND NEW ORDINANCE, I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DISCUSSION.
HOW, HOW SOON WOULD YOU WANNA I'D LIKE TO START SENDING OUT EMAILS OR JUST PUTTING OUT FEELERS TO CITIZENS AND OKAY.
YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO AND KIND OF JUST GET GROUP TOGETHER.
I'M TO THE POINT NOW WITH SUMMIT WHERE, UM, WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT CHANGES TO SPECIFIC ZONES AND STARTING TO CREATE SOME OF THE ZONES THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE COMP PLAN, BUT THAT DON'T CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND I THINK NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO START BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO IT.
I DON'T WANNA WRITE SOMETHING IN ITS ENTIRETY AND IT'S OFF BASE WITH THE PUBLIC
DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER IN MIND OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS? NO.
BUT I WILL TAKE ANY THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS YOU WOULD INCLUDE, LIKE THE BUILDER ASSOCIATION, SOMEBODY FROM THERE.
ISN'T THAT REACHING OUT TO THEM? MAYBE SOME SURVEYORS IN TOWN.
UM, SOME OF THE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST WHAT I NEED SOMETHING ELSE TO DO, RIGHT? YEAH.