* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. I'D LIKE TO CALL [00:00:01] OUR, UH, WORK SESSION [Economic Development Authority on January 25, 2024.] OF JANUARY 25TH TO ORDER, UH, HILLARY, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? RICHARD HOAK. HERE. . NICK BASS? HERE. DAVID EDNEY. HERE. AIDEN MILLER? HERE. THOMAS ESMAN. HERE. ROBERT ELLIOT. OH, BETTER. UM, ALRIGHT, SO, UH, YOU GUYS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT WAS ON THAT WHITEBOARD AT OUR LAST MEETING, BUT IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER, IT'S ON THE BACK HERE. IT'S NOT AS PRETTY AND COLORFUL AS IT WAS, BUT, UH, WHAT DO YOU DO? BUT ANYWAY, SO I'M GONNA, UH, THROW THIS BACK TO LIZ AND, UH, WE'LL START THE DISCUSSION AGAIN. TRY AND REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE IN OUR MINDS. . ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THANKS, RICK. SO, I, I, YOU KNOW, PULLED EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THEY KIND OF FIT IN THESE THREE BUCKETS FROM WHERE WE WERE TALKING ON THE WHITEBOARD. UM, THE COMP PLAN WAS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WAS DRIVING MOST OF THESE, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL. AND I WILL SAY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SAID SHE WAS OVERJOYED TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS WERE EXCITED ABOUT FOLLOWING THOSE COMP PLAN GOALS. UM, SO I, I, I'M NOT CERTAIN IF YOU WANNA DIVE BACK INTO GOALS JUST YET, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO YOUR VISION? I KNOW SOME OF US HAD TALKED ABOUT DRAFTING SOME LANGUAGE AROUND A VISION OR A MISSION STATEMENT, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, BUT, UH, I, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE MAYBE THE DISCUSSION LAST TIME WAS VERY GOALS DRIVEN. UH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA GET TO, AND I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. SO, UM, DEAL, UM, I SHOULD HAVE READ THIS BEFORE WE STARTED, BUT, UM, ON HERE, LIZ, IS IT SAFE? I MEAN, I THINK MY IMPRESSION, RIGHT? UM, ONE OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS OF A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OR WHATEVER WE ULTIMATELY CALL OURSELVES MM-HMM. , IS TO CREATE TAX BASE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S IN OUR MISSION, YOU KNOW, STATEMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT, BUT WE NEED TO HELP THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BY CREATING TAX BASE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WITH THESE THINGS. SO I THINK WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT STUFF, DOES IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND 'CAUSE TIME, RIGHT? THAT'S A RESOURCE. SHOULD WE DEVOTE TIME TO THIS OR TIME TO THAT? AND NOT THAT THE, NOT THAT THE THING, THIS THING OVER HERE MAYBE IS A BAD IDEA, IT'S JUST NOT PART OF OUR PRIMARY MISSION. MAYBE WE CAN GET TO IT LATER. SURE. OR MAYBE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR US TO THINK ABOUT. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I THINK TO INCLUDE THE WORDS TAX BASE, AT LEAST IT, WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT IN OUR, IN OUR MISSION. IS THERE ANOTHER SAYING WE COULD, SOMETHING WE COULD SAY, OTHER THAN CREATE TAX BASE, WE DRIVE ECONOMIC IMPROVEMENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES. I MEAN, EVEN WHERE COMMERCE COULD BE. SO LET'S ASK JOE WHAT HE THINKS OF IT AS. SO, UM, WELL, HOW, HOW DOES THE TOWN LOOK AT IT? RIGHT. SO THIS IS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT OUR MISSION VISION GOALS, I MEAN, WE'RE HERE FOR ME, SIMPLY WE'RE HERE, WE NEED TO CREATE JOBS. WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HOUSING, UH, ISSUE. I FORGOT THAT LITTLE THING ABOUT JOBS. JOBS. AND I THINK OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON SUPPORTING AND GROWING OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES AND TRYING TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS HERE. AND I THINK THAT KIND OF IS AN UMBRELLA OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THAT KIND OF FITS IN. BUT I THINK THAT IN, IN MY OPINION, IF I WAS JUST TO, TO, TO SINGLE OUT SUPPORTING BUSINESSES EXISTING AND NEW. AND SO FOR ME, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY MISSION AND VISION IS. AND IN TALKING TO TOWN COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THEM, BUT IT'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT THE RIGHT WAY. YEAH. I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT JOBS. SO, TAXES, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T HAD A SECOND CUP OF COFFEE. SO , I MEAN, ARE WE LOOKING FOR, ARE YOU WANTING TO DRILL DOWN ON A MISSION STATEMENT RIGHT NOW? WOULD, WOULD THAT BE THE PRIORITY OF, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH A THREE OR FOUR LINE MISSION STATEMENT, INCORPORATING THE WORDS, WE'RE JUST NOW DISCUSSING WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE THE NEXT DRIVING FORCE? I MEAN, I MEAN, NICK, YOU, I THINK YOU WROTE ONE. YEAH. YEAH. DO YOU WANNA OFFER IT? YEAH. THE MISSION, MISSION IS PROVIDE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY FOR THE FRONT ROYAL COMMUNITY TO OPTIMIZE APPROPRIATE ECONOMIC AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. VISION THAT I, AT LEAST I CAME UP WITH, TO ACHIEVE AND [00:05:01] SUSTAIN A HEALTHY ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE AND PROTECT THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FRONT ROYAL A UNIQUE TOWN. AND I WOULD ADD GROWTH. THERE'S SOMETHING INTO THAT. OKAY. EXPANSION OF COMMERCE. WELL, AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO CHANNEL OUR OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE JUST A LIMITED AMOUNT OF REAL ESTATE. AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT. I KNOW THERE'S A TERM CALLED HIGHEST AND BEST USE, BUT, UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HOW WE WANT TO GO, BUT IT, IT MAY NOT AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE SAY IN THERE. YEAH. BUT, UM, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION TO ADD ON, TAKE OUT. I THINK THE, THE MAIN KEYWORD, WELL, MY OTHER OBSERVATION WAS, I, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LIKE APPROPRIATE MM-HMM. , I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT WORD . I THINK, UM, BECAUSE IT, I DON'T KNOW, IF YOU ASK AN ATTORNEY, YOU PUT THINGS LIKE MAY YEAH. MAY WOOD COULD CONSIDERED. RIGHT? THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WELL, I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE. WHY DO YOU, YOU KNOW? WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THE COMP PLAN WOULD SORT OF GUIDE IS WHAT IS APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT. WELL, I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY HERE THAT WE ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE COMP PLAN EITHER. THE COMP PLAN IS A SET OF GOALS THAT WE SHOULD TRY AND FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, AND INCORPORATE INTO OUR WORK. YEAH. BUT IF WE FIND AN OPPORTUNITY, IF AN OPPORTUNITY DROPS INTO OUR LAB MM-HMM. THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE JUST 'CAUSE THE COMP PLAN SAYS, WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THAT REAL ESTATE THERE. DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T EXPLORE IT. AND THEN PRESENT IT TO, YOU KNOW, JOE AND THE TOWN. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, OFFICIALS TO EXPLORE FURTHER. SURE. UM, AND, AND WHEN WE EXPLORE IT, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT ITS REAL BENEFIT IS. YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S GONNA CREATE 15 JOBS AND, YOU KNOW, $20,000 IN TAX BASE ANNUALLY, OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THOSE NUMBERS ARE. MAYBE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. MAYBE IT'S INTENTIONAL. WELL, THE THING I SEE SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BEING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CURRENT SITUATION IN FRONT ROYAL. MM-HMM. , UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GATEWAY ENTRANCE OR WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PARKING GARAGE, OR WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TURN SIGNAL, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF WE MAKE THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS, THE RESIDUAL EFFECT IS, IS PRETTY STRONG. I MEAN, YOU BUILD A PARKING GARAGE, YOU ATTRACT MORE BUSINESSES THAT MAY WANNA SAY, WELL, PARKING'S NOT AN ISSUE ANYMORE. MM-HMM. DOWN THERE. YEAH. UM, IF YOU IMPROVE YOUR GATEWAY, YOU'RE IMPROVING YOUR TOURISM. MM-HMM. , UM, ELEMENT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENT OF COMMUNITY, UH, OR, UH, SUGGESTIONS OF IMPROVEMENT, COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S INCORPORATED IN THERE. 'CAUSE I FORESEE QUITE A FEW OF OUR VISIONS. MAYBE NOT. WE WANT TO LOCATE BILLY BOB'S SUCH AND SUCH IN THIS BUILDING. WHILE THAT'S A GREAT THING, MAYBE THERE'S AN OVERALL IMPROVEMENT WHERE WE CAN ATTRACT BUSINESSES IN ALL THE BUILDINGS. SO, ALRIGHT. PART OF THE MISSION STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY FOR THE COMMUNITY. DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN CONSIDER OURSELVES IS LEADERSHIP OR ARE WE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY THE CORRECT WORD, BUT THAT WORD CAME UP MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE LAST CONVERSATION FOR SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A APPROPRIATE WORD. INAPPROPRIATE. WE'RE NOT ELECTED. ALL WE CAN DO IS PROVIDE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE, HOW WE'RE LEADING. UM, WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'RE MAKING SUGGESTIONS. WE'RE MM-HMM. WE'RE GIVING INPUT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AS TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. AND MAYBE THAT IS LEADERSHIP. I MEAN, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, TRANSPORTATION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THAT. BUT WE SEE THINGS AS, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS OF THE TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE TOWN. AND SO JUST SAYING, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, UH, BRINGING IT TO ATTENTION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF WE SEE IT, PROBABLY EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, AND WE'RE JUST IDENTIFYING IT AS A, AS A OBSTACLE. I, I LIKE THE WORD LEADERSHIP. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS TO GET WHAT WE WANT TO GET DONE. YEAH. AND SOMETIMES OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ARE GONNA TAKE THE LEAD, BUT THEN SOMETIMES THIS BOARD WILL HAVE TO TAKE THE LEAD. SO I, I WE'RE, I MEAN, WE'RE ASSEMBLED FOR THAT PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERYONE ELSE MIGHT HAVE IDEAS, BUT THERE'S NO COLLECTIVE, WE ARE THAT COLLECTIVE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TOGETHER TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, UNIFY THIS KIND [00:10:01] OF STUFF. OKAY. WE'RE NOT A SINGLE VOICE. WHETHER WE MISS WHETHER WE MISS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BILLY BOB MIGHT'VE THOUGHT OF. THAT'S POSSIBLE. BUT YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, I GUESS THE PROBLEM OR THE ACHILLES HEEL OF ANY LEADER IS THAT THEY MIGHT NOT ADDRESS EVERY, YOU KNOW, SO CAN WE GET THAT WRITTEN ON THE WHITEBOARD SO WE ALL CAN SEE IT? UM, AND MAYBE AMEND IT AS WE GO? YEAH, SURE. I'VE GOT DECENT HANDS ALL YEAH. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START. THANK YOU, NICK. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE. YOU'VE GOTTA GET THAT CORD AND THEN ONCE WE CAN, I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE? YOU LEARN NICK WITH THE LEFT? YEAH, LET'S DO SOMETHING. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU PUT SOME YELLOW IN THERE? I DIDN'T KNOW LEFT. LEFTIES ARE SPECIAL. THEY ARE. THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE LIKE ON THAT AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, COME ON AROUND. WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE MY HEAD ANYMORE AND HE'S GOT GOOD CURSIVE. I KNOW. I'M BLOWN AWAY. IT'S NOT PRINTING. IT'S CURSIVE. WHAT'S WILD TO ME IS THAT HE MADE ME COBBLE THROUGH ALL OF THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. AND YET HE'S UP THERE WITH THIS GREAT PENMANSHIP, . AND I LIKE THAT WORD IMPROVEMENT. TOM, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO READ THAT. OH NO. OH, THAT'S THE YOUNGER GENERATION . ARE THEY OR AREN'T THEY IS? I DON'T THINK SO. YEAH. LIKE HOW DO YOU SIGN A DOCUMENT? I'M NOT SURE. OH. IT'S JUST CRAZY. I, I, DOCUSIGN I HAVE WORKING FOR ME WHEN THEY WRITE SOMETHING DOWN ON MY ONE ARM FOR THE FRONT ROW COMMUNITY, IT LOOKS LIKE A 4-YEAR-OLD GRAB A PENCIL TO, I CAN'T, TIM, AND I REMEMBER YOU, MY SON WAS IN MONTESSORI WHEN DO ALL THIS LIKE TRACING. THERE WE GO. AND WE'VE GOT TWO AWFUL, HIS HANDWRITING. I STILL TAKE A PAPER PRESCRIPTION. THANK GOD THEY CALL CVS AND SEND IT INTO HIM. NO. YEAH. DON'T READ IT. WELL THAT'S A DOCTOR'S THING, MAN. THEY LIKE TO, THEY LIKE TO TRY TO MAKE IT A CHALLENGE TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY FOR THE FRONT ROW COMMUNITY TO OPTIMIZE. OOH. INTENTIONAL, APPROPRIATE. I MEAN, APPROPRIATE MIGHT BE ALL RIGHT. I JUST, I JUST, UM, NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK IT, IT HAS A, A BACK DOOR. IT HAS. YEAH. YEAH. SLASH WELL, THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. WHO'S THIS WE SHOULD IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UH, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A HANDOUT TODAY OF UPDATED THE PROPERTIES THAT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL OWNS? NOT TODAY. OKAY. WE STILL GOTTA WORK ON THAT. OKAY. I HAD AN IDEA FOR THAT. I WANNA TALK ABOUT LATER. OKAY. IT MIGHT BE DUMB. I DON'T KNOW YET. WE'LL TALK IT OUT. MY IDEA, I LOVE DUMB IDEAS. , I THINK ABOUT 'EM ALL THE TIME. AND DAN. I'M TRYING TO WRITE A LITTLE BIT FASTER. WE CAN KEEP TALKING ABOUT STUFF. YEAH. YEAH. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT SHIRT THAT NICK'S WEARING? . NOT ABOUT NICK . OH, I'M SORRY. MY FOCUS WAS UP THERE. . OH. UM, I HAVE, SO FRANK'S WIFE HAS A BABY. EVERYBODY. OH. WAY TO GO. MY FRANK IS NOT HERE TODAY. UM, SO I GRABBED A CARD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SIGN. YEAH. WELL IMAGINE PUTTING THE BABY IN FRONT OF US. YEAH. HE'S HE'S NOT HERE COOKING. I KNOW. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? OH MY GOODNESS. SO RUDE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. SO, WHILE THAT'S FLOATING AROUND, LIZZIE, DO YOU ENVISION THIS EVEN BEING NARROWED DOWN MORE? OR IS THIS WHERE WE WANT TO BE? UM, I THINK THIS IS A, UH, TOP OF THE FUNNEL. LOOK AT THE MOMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD NARROW, UH, IN A DREAM WORLD. I'D LOVE TO NARROW THIS DOWN TO OUR FIRST GOAL, OUR FIRST PROJECT, OUR FIRST, LIKE, I, I WANNA GET THIS DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER. 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA, IT'S GONNA GROW AS, AS THE ORGANIZATION DEVELOPS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE STUFF THAT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO DO. SO THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET US A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED BY THE END OF OUR MEETING TODAY TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA TACKLE FIRST, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE UNDER THE, THE FIRST SECTION OF THE COMP PROGRAM. YEAH. I MEAN, RECRUITING RESTAURANTS WITH DIVERSE CUISINES. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DOING THAT. I'M A FRONT ROYAL BUSINESSMAN. I, I CONSIDER MY AMBASSADOR A FRONT ROYAL. I'M RECRUITING 24 7 MM-HMM. . I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE IN OUR REPERTOIRE A FOCUSED GROUP. UM, TO ME, IF BILLY BOB WANTS TO COME, I'M GONNA RECRUIT BILLY BOB AS BEST AS I CAN. WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I, IT'S A GREAT THING TO RECRUIT DIVERSE CUISINES, BUT TO ME IT'S A LITTLE TOO FOCUSED TO ME. WE SHOULD BE MORE, UM, OPEN. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS [00:15:01] ABOUT IT. I MEAN, YOU GET MY WAY, MY DIVERSE CUISINE IS I WANT A WAFFLE HOUSE. BUT, UM, I ASK YOU ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, BEEN ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. I'VE BEEN BOTHERING EVERY TIME I SEE A REGIONAL MANAGER, I BOTHER THEM. UM, I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS. SO, UH, I JUST, I DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD BE WORDING OUR GOALS AND OUR VISION TO ONE TYPE OF AN INDUSTRY. BUT I COULD BE WRONG THERE. I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN, TOM, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT I THINK THAT IS LIKE ALMOST A DIRECT QUOTE FROM A COMP PLAN NOTE. OKAY. SO NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE GENERATED FROM THIS TABLE. MM-HMM. , BUT WAS SOMETHING THAT FOLKS HAD WE PUT A CHECK MARK BY. THAT'S ALL. UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. THAT THAT IS A BIT OF A NARROW FOCUS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK WE'RE GETTING PRETTY DIVERSE WITH OUR CUISINE OPTION. YEAH. FAR MORE THAN IT WAS WHEN I MOVED HERE YEARS AGO. BUT FAR MORE THAN WE ENCOUNTER IN OUR TRAVELS. YOU MEAN WHAT? ONE TIME WE HAD THREE THAI RESTAURANTS. I MISSED THE KMART RESTAURANT. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. YEAH. UM, GREAT PLACE. CAN YOU GO IN RURAL KING AND ASK THEM FOR ANYTHING? WHEN THEY DID THAT, I WAS LIKE, WHAT ON EARTH YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THEIR SHOE DEPARTMENT? THEN I GUESS , WHAT SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT? LIKE MAYBE DIVIDE OUR WORK INTO AREAS OF FOCUS OR COMMITTEES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN START THROWING SOME OF THIS STUFF INTO THAT BUCKET AND, AND THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN RANK THEM. YOU KNOW? OKAY. I, I THINK COMMITTEES AND, AND BUCKETS ARE GREAT. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT WE CALL THE BUCKETS YET. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN 'EM. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. WELL, I, I, I MEAN, COMING AWAY FROM THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS PLUS WHERE WE ALL STARTED, OR MOST OF US STARTED, I, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO IDENTIFY, I THINK WHAT OUR INVENTORY IS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. MM-HMM. , UM, YOU KNOW, I, I BREAK THIS DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, BASIC BUSINESS OR SALES. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRODUCT. UM, I MEAN, IF WE'RE TRYING, IF, IF, IF WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE OR LURE ANY BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRODUCT. YEAH. UM, SO THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE TO SELL IT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF IDEA. SO, I MEAN, I, I'VE, I'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY STARTED ON, ON NUMBER ONE IN THE COMP PLAN DIALOGUE WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES BY, I'VE GONE TO THE CHAMBER WEBSITE, THE YELLOW PAGES, AND I HAVE A DATABASE OF EVERY BUSINESS IN FRONT ROYALS SO FAR. UM, AND, AND IN WITH THE CHAMBER'S WEBSITE, I WAS ABLE TO GATHER SOME SORT OF CONTACT INFORMATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, THE CHAMBER'S COLLECTION IS, IS STRANGE BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE ON THERE THAT ARE ON THERE LIKE SEVEN TIMES YEAH. FOR ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING. THEY'RE JUST CALLED THEMSELVES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT'S SORT OF THAT WHOLE YELLOW PAGE THING. IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT YOURSELF IN EIGHT TIMES, THE LIKELIHOOD WHEN SOMEBODY OPENS IT, THEY'LL SEE. UM, BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE. UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE RESTAURANTS, IT'S LIKE, I COME AWAY FROM THAT EVERY TIME I HEAR IT. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT? LIKE, WE HAVE THAI, WE HAVE INDIAN, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. AND OF COURSE, IT'S MY INDUSTRY TOO. YEAH. UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING? I, I DON'T DISAGREE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S A TOWN OF 14,000 PEOPLE, 15,000 PEOPLE. WHAT, WHAT REALLY ARE YOU EXPECTING TO BE HERE? UM, YOU KNOW, AND PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE FROM HERE OR PUT HERE WHATEVER KIND OF ATTITUDE, BUT IT IS THAT THING. IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT, WHAT IS IT SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WANT? I MEAN, THIS IS VERY, YOU KNOW, AND THIS COULD BE SAID IN EVERY INDUSTRY. THEY MIGHT BE LIKE, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A MULTIPLEX WELL, THEY WANT AN EIGHT SCREEN THEATER, I'M SURE OF IT. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THEY COST, I MEAN, EIGHT OR $10 MILLION TO BUILD, AND WE'RE 15,000. RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE HAVE AN ALAMO HERE, YOU KNOW, WORK WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF OUR POPULATION. RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT, THAT, I MEAN, HAVE AN INDOOR WATER PARK. NOT THAT IT'S UNREALISTIC, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW I KEEP, YOU KNOW, IN MY INDUSTRY YEAH. PARTICULARLY, I'M LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE, THERE'S A LOT OF RESTAURANTS IN FRONT ROYAL. I MEAN, AT ONE TIME THERE WAS 11 CHINESE RESTAURANTS HERE. YEAH. WOW. THAT'S AMAZING. HOLY COW. SO, SO, SO WHILE WE'RE ON THAT LINE, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE TALKING. SO IN THIS ROOM, WHAT IS IT WE DON'T HAVE, WHAT DIVERSE CUISINE DOES THIS PEOPLE AROUND THIS ROOM THINK THAT WE'RE MISSING? I DON'T THINK IT'S SO MUCH DIVERSE CUISINE AS IT IS NAME BRAND. LIKE, THERE'S ONE IN THREE PEOPLE, ONE IN CHICK-FIL-A I MEAN, YOU'LL HEAR THAT. AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CUISINE, THAT'S JUST WHAT [00:20:01] YOU'LL HEAR. MM-HMM. . AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS, ONE'S GOTTA HAVE FOUR LINES GOING AROUND IT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CRAZY. BUT I DON'T HEAR PEOPLE, I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, OH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS TYPE THAT, THAT RESTAURANT, IT'S NOT CUISINE. IT'S ABOUT BRAND NAME. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. I DON'T HEAR PEOPLE SAY, OH, WOW, I'D REALLY LOVE TO HAVE A VIETNAMESE, YOU KNOW, BUFFET HERE. I, I DON'T HEAR THAT KIND OF STUFF. WHAT I HEAR IS A NAME BRAND. UM, I HEAR MORE RESTAURANTS LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE THOUGH. YEAH. IN A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT, WHEN I GO TO OTHER TOWNS, I CAN WALK DOWN THE STREET AND THERE ARE SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT MENUS THAT I CAN LOOK AT IN THE WINDOW. YEAH. WITH FRONT ROYAL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS ARE, I MEAN, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA GO INTO WHAT ALL WE DO HAVE, BUT MORE, MORE RESTAURANTS LIKE ELEMENT, MORE SLIGHTLY UPSCALE RESTAURANTS. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT, I'VE CERTAINLY SEEN IT GROW IN MY TIME HERE. I MEAN, WHEN I STARTED IT WAS, IT WAS, THE LANDSCAPE WASN'T VERY, UH, BROAD AT ALL. I MEAN, I, I HONESTLY, I I, I'VE SEEN IT GROW IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS, UM, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN I DID THE ELEMENT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN BETWEEN FAST FOOD. AND AT THE TIME WE HAD APARTMENT TWO G, SO THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE. NOW THAT CATEGORY IS PACKED, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT MY PERSPECTIVE IS. AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF FAST FOOD. I WOULD AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT THAT WE NEED A CHICK-FIL-A IT'S AN AMAZING FRANCHISE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I KEEP SAY, KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS GOVERNMENT CAN'T, WE CAN'T CREATE THEIR EXCITEMENT, CREATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT HA THAT HAS TO HAPPEN AND HASN'T HAPPENED FOR A REASON. I MEAN, THERE WA THEY WERE CLEARLY ON THE LIST WHEN THE SHOPPING CENTERS WERE BUILT. OH. THEY WANTED TO BE HERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN I HEARD IN RECENT YEARS THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND A SITE. WELL, THEN I WAS, YOU KNOW, I SAW THAT TRUCK AND I'M LIKE, HOLY COW, I WOULD DO THAT A MILLION TIMES OVER IF I COULD, YOU KNOW? UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, AGAIN, THEY COULD PUT THAT TRUCK ANYWHERE. AND THERE'S A LINE TRUCK. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I'M JUST, I MEAN, THEY COULD HIDE THEY YEAH. BUT THAT PARTICULAR CHICK-FIL-A TRUCK, THEY COULD HIDE THAT CHICK-FIL-A TRUCK DOWN OVER BY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAREHOUSES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND PEOPLE WOULD FIND IT. SOCIAL MEDIA WOULD IN A HEARTBEAT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'D BE A LINE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE NATURE OF, YOU KNOW, ANY CHICK-FIL-A IS, IT'S LIKE, I WONDER WHY THEY EVEN PUT IT ON A PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A BUSY SPOT. IT'S LIKE YOU COULD BE ANYWHERE. BUT THAT SAID, NOT TO STOP YOUR FLOW, BUT TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT WITH JOE, ARE THERE INCENTIVES OUT THERE FROM A, A TAX-BASED STANDPOINT, WATER, SEWER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, TO LURE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT TO, TO MAKE SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE? I KNOW IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU HAVE THOSE TOOLS? I THINK WE DO, I THINK, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, UM, COMPLICATED. I WOULDN'T SAY COMPLICATED. IT IS JUST THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CREATE THAT PATH. I THINK THAT THERE ARE, WE DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY AND SOME PARAMETERS TO BE ABLE TO ENTICE SOME MINISTRY HERE. UH, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEVELOP THAT PATH FORWARD BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING SET UP FOR THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE TROUBLE DOING THAT BEFORE TOO. WELL, AND HOW FAR DO WE GO OUT, WHERE DOES, WHERE IS THE ACTUAL TOWN LIMIT? IN THE, IN THE, THE CORRIDOR OUT TOWARDS 66. SO THE CORPORATE LIMITS ARE RIGHT BY 66. HAMPTON INN. THE HAMPTON INN. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE. NO. GOTCHA. SO THAT'S A COUNTY FUNCTION, LORING FOLKS OUT THAT WAY. OKAY. WE HELP FACILITATE THAT WITH THE WATER AND SEWER OUT THERE. AND WE DO PROVIDE THAT UTILITY. OKAY. AND WE DO PROVIDE THAT UTILITY, WHICH FACILITATES THAT DEVELOPMENT OFFICE. I MEAN, WE HAD THE OLD HARDY'S PAD FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS THAT NOBODY EVER USED OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY FINALLY BULLDOZED IT. UM, BUT THE PAD'S STILL THERE. RIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING OVER, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE JOE STEAKHOUSE AREA, BUT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THAT PAD OFF TO THE SIDE. NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR A CHICK-FIL-A I'M SURE. UM, THERE'S SEVERAL LITTLE TOPICS. WELL, AND THEN THERE, THERE, THERE'RE I WANT, WE SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE'LL BE ON IT ALL DAY. YEAH. MM-HMM. . BUT I'LL SAY, BUT IS FOCUSING ME A LITTLE BIT THOUGH. YEAH, A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, LIKE CHICK-FIL-A WANTED TO BE HERE, COULDN'T FIND A PAD SITE. THERE ARE PAD SITES, BUT THEN THERE ARE EXCLUSIVES THAT DEVELOPERS PUT IN. CORRECT. TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, A BRAND THAT COMES IN LIKE ROY ROGERS, AND NOBODY CAN SELL CHICKEN IN THERE. UM, AND, AND ANYWAY, LIKE WHERE I, THE CHICK-FIL-A WAS GONNA GO TO THE OLD BANK ON THE CORNER. 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE, IT WAS HANDLED DIFFERENTLY FROM THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THAT FELL APART FOR SOME REASON. I DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT NOW WE, NOW WE HAVE CHIPOTLE. SO, BUT AGAIN, KNOWING THAT WE REALLY WANNA [00:25:01] FOCUS ON THE PAD SITES ON THIS SIDE OF 66 MM-HMM. WAS VERY HELPFUL. . MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH. RIGHT. UH, I MEAN, I MEAN, WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE MAPS, I THINK, TOO, HERE WHEN WE MEET, BECAUSE IT, IT IS HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT STUFF. I MEAN, YEAH. I MEAN, THE FIRST TIME WE SAW THOSE, THAT WAS WHEN WE WENT UP TO, UM, WHAT WAS IT, MARION? WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE HOTEL IS, UP, UP BY, UH, GOLF COURSE. YEAH. I MEAN, IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO SEE THAT AND TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW THOSE ZONING OVERLAYS AND, AND THINGS ARE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THING TOO. WE ALL MIGHT SAY THIS WOULD BE PERFECT HERE OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CONSTRUCTS THERE THAT WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW. WELL, AND THERE ARE DEFINITIONS FOR DOWNTOWN. SOME PEOPLE SAY DOWNTOWN HERE WHERE WE ARE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, OUR FOCUS IS THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL BUSINESS AREA. AND, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN SAY, WELL, WHEN, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSING ON DOWNTOWN, THEY, THEY IMMEDIATELY THINK THIS GENERAL GEOGRAPHICAL AREA, WHICH TO ME, THIS IS ATTRACTIVE. IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE TO A PAD SITE TO CHICK-FIL-A BUT IT'S ATTRACTIVE TO A RESTAURANT LIKE THE ELEMENT OR SOMAN OR SOME, SOME RESTAURANTS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM. . UM, WHEREAS WE'VE GOT SOME OUTLYING AREAS. THE KEY IS DOES THE TRAVEL AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEMOGRAPHIC SUPPORT WHAT IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR? IT'S ALL GONNA BE IN THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE PASS BY. AND I, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THAT I, NOT ARGUMENT, BUT MY, UH, CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH LIKE A RETAIL STRATEGIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S LIKE, I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE FRANCHISES ARE ALREADY ACTIVELY LOOKING. I MEAN, IF, YOU KNOW, IF IF I HAD THE MONEY AND THE ABILITY TO OPEN UP A CHICK-FIL-A I WOULD BE LOOKING ALREADY, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T NEED SOMEONE TO COME SAY, HEY, LOOK AT FRONT ROYAL. I MEAN, I'D BE LOOKING AT FRONT ROYAL, LIKE, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE IN MY, YOU KNOW, IT IS SORT OF LIKE A STOCK SCREENER. YOU'D SAY, OKAY, I NEED, I NEED 15,000 PEOPLE. OKAY, HERE'S MY LIST. NOW I NEED THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS. OKAY. YOU KNOW, AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD SCREAM DOWN TO A, TO A, I'M SURE THESE FRANCHISES HAVE THAT IN THEIR TOOLKIT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? THEY, THEY'VE, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE GO INTO A FRANCHISEES BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN THOUGHT OUT FOR THEM. MM-HMM. , THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT VERY MANY MCDONALD'S THAT FAIL. UM, THAT KIND OF IDEA. A KILLER LOCATION THAT IS ON OUR MAP IS ON OUR FOCUS, IS AFTER YOU COME ACROSS THE TWIN BRIDGES, THE FIRST PLACE ON THE RIGHT. UM, WHICH HAS BEEN FOR SALE OVER AND OVER AND OVER. NOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY SAID PENDING CONTRACT OR SOMETHING. YEAH. I MEAN, I, YOU, IT IS LONG. I DON'T KNOW. IT IS THE OLD VETERINARIAN PLACE WHEN I WAS A KID. BUT, UM, SO I CAN SEE OUR FOCUS ON TRYING TO HELP THE OWNER OF THAT, THAT SITE. YEAH. THAT'S OF WHAT I WAS, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CONTRACT THERE NOW, BUT I COULD SEE US BEING, WHO COULD WE RECRUIT? WHO CAN, WHO CAN WE REACH OUT TO TO HELP THAT OWNER LOCATE SOMETHING? AND THAT IS MY IDEA WITH THE INVENTORY IS, IS WHAT, WHO OWNS WHAT, WHAT DO THEY WANT? YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE'S, I I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE HOLDING REAL ESTATE THAT ARE KIND OF LOST. THEY DON'T HAVE A, YOU KNOW, HELPING HAND. THERE MIGHT BE A REAL ESTATE AGENT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE, WE'RE KIND OF IN THAT SAME REALM OF, OF, OF CORP OR COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IN, IN A WAY. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF HELPING HELPING THIS PERSON AND THIS PERSON COME TOGETHER. AND, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE CREATING THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THAT GROWTH FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL. GOTCHA. YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH. UM, SO I, I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT ALL COMES BACK TO THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESSES, EXISTING COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S AVAILABLE, WHAT'S COMING AVAILABLE, WHO'S THINKING ABOUT DOING WHAT. AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNLESS WE'RE FACILITATING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. YEAH. UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT REAL QUICK, SINCE NICK WORKED REALLY HARD TO WRITE THAT MISSION AND VISION UP THERE, WE SHOULD CIRCLE BACK TO THAT BEFORE WE LOSE TRACK OF THAT. AND I, I MEAN, I EVEN PUT TOGETHER STARTED TO PUT TOGETHER, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME TODAY, KIND OF A QUESTIONNAIRE IN TERMS OF HOW YOU'D REACH OUT TO THESE BUSINESSES AND SAY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT DO YOU IDENTIFY AS YOUR KEY DRIVER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THING. WHAT DO YOU, AND, AND ALSO HOW IS YOUR BUSINESS? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE? OR WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW DOWN ON MAIN STREET THERE'S A COMPLAINT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE GONE TO THOSE MEETINGS ABOUT THE FESTIVALS AND THE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE, I MEAN, IT, IT'S PAINFUL. UM, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, ANY WORDS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED, YOU WANNA GO WITH INTENTIONAL OR APPROPRIATE? I THINK YOU COULD CROSS IT OUT [00:30:01] AND JUST SAY OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC AND IMPROVEMENT IN OPPORTUNITIES. I AGREE. ALRIGHT. CAN I USE A COLORED ONE? YEAH, GO FOR IT. . I LIKE GREEN. LET'S ALL MY FRIEND'S DAUGHTER GOT INTO JMU LAST NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. GOOD. DUKES, SHE'S STILL WAITING ON ONE MORE, BUT IT'S A GREAT OPTION YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE. I'M NOT SURE ON TO ACHIEVE AND SUSTAIN IS MORE, IS TO SUSTAIN AND GROW. UM, NOW I, I JUST WANT, SHE SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET. YEAH, YEAH. I, I WOULD ALMOST GO WITH TO SUSTAIN AND, AND GROW A HEALTHY ECONOMY VERSUS TO ACHIEVE, I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE A CHARMING TOWN. I THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT FOUNDATION. UM, AND YEAH, I THINK WE'RE TO IMPROVE UPON IT AND ADD TO IT AND, UM, TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER. THAT'S MY, THAT'S ONE OPINION ON ECONOMY WORKS FOR EVERYONE AND PROTECT. ARE YOU TAKING HEALTHY OUT AND GROW? I DON'T THINK ON ECONOMY OUT OR YOU, YOU DON'T NEED HEALTHY . YEAH. I GUESS DON'T NEED HEALTHY ONE. OKAY. TO SUSTAIN AND GROW AN ECONOMY. AND GROW AN ECONOMY. I LIKE HEALTHY, BETTER ECONOMY OR YOU SUSTAIN AND GROW A HEALTHY ECONOMY, HEALTHY ECONOMY. I LIKE HEALTHY BETTER. OH, VERSUS AND GROW. YEAH. UH, NO. I LIKE NO. AND GROW A HEALTHY AND GROW A HEALTHY ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE AND PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FRONT ROYAL A UNIQUE TOWN. THAT IS A PLEASANT WAY TO PHRASE THAT. NO WORKS FOR EVERYONE. SOUNDS NICE. BUT I THINK TWO THINGS. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PIN IT DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER. AND ALSO I THINK IT COULD BE A BIT OF A BACK DOOR AS WELL. LIKE, OH, WELL IT DOESN'T, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION THERE. I'M JUST, I DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATE IDEA, BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ACTIONS THAT WE MAY FEEL ARE BEST THAT OTHERS MAY NOT BE. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S, YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE. THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. SO UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S THAT 80 20 RULE. MM-HMM. SO I THINK EVERYONE IS FRAUGHT WITH DANGER USING THAT WORD WORKS FOR ONLY SOME , . I, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, I JUST THOUGHT THERE'S ANOTHER WORD. WHAT GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY SUPPORTS. HOW ABOUT SUPPORTS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SUPPORTS LOCAL COMMERCE. GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY WORKS FOR EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE PART IN QUESTION WORKS FOR EVERYONE. WHAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO PHRASE IT? THAT'S THE ONE THING I'M HUNG UP ON. THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT. YEAH. WE WANT IT TO BE FOR EVERYONE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A 50 50 WORLD. I, I WISH YOU WERE IN 80 20 . SO I MEAN, WHAT IF YOU DROPPED THAT AND JUST TO SUSTAIN. TO SUSTAIN AND GROW HEALTHY ECONOMY THAT PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS. YEAH. BECAUSE HEALTHY ECONOMY WOULD HAVE THAT CONNOTATION, PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FRONT ROYAL A UNIQUE TOWN. CAN WE CHANGE TOWN AND COMMUNITY? YEAH. IS THAT BAD? NO. TOWN IS, THAT'S JUST THE LEGAL TERM REALLY. TOWN FEELS WEIRD. COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE WE'RE SO SMALL STRUCTURES BUSINESS, WE'RE SO SMALL. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT ANYTHING THAT WE DO HERE PRODUCTIVE WELL, IT WILL. BECAUSE AS PEOPLE FORGET THE TOWN IS THE COUNTY . YEAH. SO WHATEVER WE DO WILL HELP THE COUNTY ABSOLUTELY. AS WELL. AS LONG AS IT'S POSITIVE. ABSOLUTELY. STAY AND GROW HEALTHY ECONOMY THAT PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FRONT ROYAL A UNIQUE COMMUNITY. SO I WANNA, SO, SO I WOULD LIKE, I STILL WANNA CIRCLE BACK TO JOBS AND TAX BASE. AND DID WHAT DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ELSE, JEFF? NO, I THINK THAT WAS IT. YEAH. I, I, I, I MEAN, I THINK JOBS AND TAX BASE NEED TO BE CORE PRINCIPLES. HOW ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? HOW ABOUT PRO PROVIDES EMPLOYMENT AND GROWTH, BUT PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FRONT ROYAL UNIQUE COMMUNITIES? WELL, I WAS GONNA POP IT OR SAY OPPORTUNITIES THERE. 'CAUSE AGAIN, OPPORTUNITY KIND OF ENCOMPASSES THAT. VAGUELY. I MEAN, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY, COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT, IT'S, BUT THEN I DIDN'T WANT TO REUSE THE MISSION. RIGHT? SAME OPPORTUNITY. PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY. AND THE OPPORTUNITY [00:35:01] COULD BE ANY OF THOSE THINGS, AS DAVID SAID. MM. OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT WANT IT. MISSION STATEMENT. SO I, SO ON THE MISSION STATEMENT, YOU GUYS, SO IF WE GO WITH THAT MISSION STATEMENT, BUT AT THE END OF IT, TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT GROW TAX BASED AND JOBS OR SOME OTHER WAY TO SAY THAT. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST HUNG UP ON THAT. YEAH. TAX BASE IS WEIRD FOR ME. CAN WE GO LIKE WORKFORCE OR FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITIES? THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING OPPORTUNITY. IT'S, THAT'S THE THING. WELL, IT COMES TO THAT TOO. YEAH. FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION. UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT A, WHAT'S ANOTHER GROUP? THERE'S NOT A GOOD WORD FOR THE WORD TAX. YEAH. TAX, IT PROVIDES, PROVIDES FINANCIAL INCENTIVE. NO. PROVIDES FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. I WELL, I, AND I JUST THINK THAT SOMETIMES WE'RE, WE MAY GET DOWN IN THE WEEDS AND GO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO WAIT, HAVE A WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE SOMETIMES. LIKE, I DON'T, WHO KNOWS? UM, ARE WE GOING TO, LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABT TECH'S PROPERTY AND WE ARE IN CHARGE OF IT ALL. RIGHT? WHICH WE'RE NOT, BUT ALL RIGHT. SO, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO, OR SOME SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE NEED TO LEAN ON, HEY, WE HAVE THIS COMPANY THAT WILL BRING IN, UM, 20 JOBS AND, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TAX BASE. OR WE GOT THIS COMPANY, IT'S GONNA BRING IN, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED JOBS AND $50,000 IN TAX BASE. AND THEN SOMEHOW WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WELL, WHICH, WHICH ONE'S BETTER? OR, OR, OR, OR MAYBE IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. NOT EXPLAINING MYSELF. I THINK THE WORD TO ME, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THE TAX BASE, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE TAX BASE CREATE, ENDS UP CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITY AND JOBS FOR EVERYONE. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO MENTION IT SOMEHOW. YEAH. I'D RATHER SEE IT IN THE VISION AND THE MISSION BECAUSE SOME OF OUR VISIONS AND SOME OF OUR ECONOMIC IMPROVEMENTS AREN'T GONNA IMPROVE THE TAX BASE. CURRENTLY. IT'S FUTURE. IT'S, IF WE DO THIS, THEY WILL COME. IT'S KINDA LIKE BUILDING A BALL FIELD WAITING FOR THE PEOPLE TO COME AND ATTEND THE BALLGAME. RIGHT. WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT. SO SOME OF OUR ACTIONS ARE ACTUALLY MAY COST THE TAX BASE, BUT WE SEE THE END RESULT DOWN THE ROAD BEING BETTER. AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN WITH THE VISION AND THE HOPES AND THE LEADERSHIP. SO I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU. I MEAN, MAYBE WE JUST USE THE WORD TAX BASE, PUT IT IN OUR VISION TO SUSTAIN AND GROW A HEALTHY ECONOMY THAT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY, GROWS THE TAX BASE AND PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FOR ROYAL UNIQUE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, PUTS A SOUR TASTE IN, CAN WE USE CONTRIBUTIONS? WELL CONTRIBUTION, GOOD FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION OR START OFF BASE CONTRIBUTIONS IS WORTH I'M HUNG UP ON TAX BASE, BUT DON'T, YEAH, I JUST WANNA FIND A, I DON'T LIKE THE WORD, I WANT A MORE BENIGN WORD. I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT. I MEAN, WE ALL PAY TAXES, TAX, IT NEEDS FLOWERS ON IT. YEAH. , IT DOES TAX BASED SOUNDS SO DRESSED UP AND FORMAL. WHEREAS CONTRIBU ECONOMIC OR, UH, NOT EVEN MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS, JUST CONTRIBUTIONS, RIGHT. BUT ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTION IS, YOU KNOW, YEAH. THAT'S JOBS, THAT'S TAXES, THAT'S OPTIMIZING, GIVING BACK ECONOMIC, IT'S ALSO HONEST ECONOMIC , I MEAN, QUITE HONEST. I MEAN, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. IT'S LIKE WHEN, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTION ELSE, I JUST WROTE A LETTER TO RICHMOND TALKING ABOUT THE MINIMUM WAGE THING, AND IT'S JUST SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEA THAT A POLITICIAN CAN, CAN, YOU KNOW, USE MINIMUM WAGE AS THIS, YOU KNOW, FLOAT OR WONDERFUL IDEA. AND IT'S LIKE REALLY ALL YOU'RE DOING IS, IS INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF TAX THAT'S COMING INTO, YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE. I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY NOT LOOKING AFTER PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING MINIMUM WAGE. BECAUSE, BECAUSE HONESTLY, YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FIX IS FOR THAT. BY RAISING IT, YOU'RE SIMPLY, YOU'RE NOT HELPING, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CAUSING MORE, ALMOST HARM THAN GOOD. UM, IN MY PERSPECTIVE. BUT I'M, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU DO IT? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO? SO I MEAN, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT'S, IT, IT, IT SUGARCOATS, IT SOUNDS GOOD, IT'S GREAT ON PRESS, BUT REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S, IT'S GROWING TAX BASED. AND, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I MEAN USING IT, IT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD, BUT AT LEAST IT'S HONEST. I MEAN, REALLY, YOU KNOW, ANYONE THAT, THAT LIVES IN FRONT ROYAL THAT YOU KNOW, DOESN'T UNDER, YOU [00:40:01] KNOW, AND SADLY PEOPLE DON'T GET IT. BUT IT'S JUST LIKE THIS IS A NECESSARY, IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL. ALL OF THE TAXES. MAYBE NOT, BUT, BUT I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN NEEDS MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IT DOES. YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT THE, DO YOU WANT THE ROAD PLOWED OR DO YOU WANNA LIVE, YOU KNOW, A SIX FEET OF S SNOW IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE? YOU KNOW, JOE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? IT, UNFORTUNATELY THAT TAKES DOLLARS. AND SO YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT 'EM. SO RICK LIKES TAX BASE. DAVID'S LEANING LIKE TAX BASE. YEAH, I THINK TAX BASE, WE'RE ON TARGET THERE. 'CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN TOWN, I LOOK AT SALES TAX, MEALS, TAX, LODGING, TAX. THAT TELLS YOU WHAT'S COMING IN. AND, AND, AND I, LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, OUR MEALS, SALES AND, AND, AND LODGING TAX ARE RIGHT ON TARGET WITH OUR PROJECTIONS THIS YEAR, WHICH I THINK ARE GREAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL COMING OUTTA THE PANDEMIC. WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL SEEING THIS ECONOMY START BACK UP. SO I, I THINK TAX BASE IS RIGHT ON TARGET. I JUST CAN'T THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD RIGHT NOW, BUT I, UNLESS IT IS THE WORDS TAX BASE, JUST DROP OUR TAX. I LOOK AT IT AS GENERAL FUND REVENUE. YOU WRITE IT UP THERE AND CIRCLE BACK TO IT LATER ON. IT'S A PILLAR. I MEAN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE THINGS FLOWERY, BUT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING GETS BETTER. OPTIMIZE, PROVIDE GOVERNMENT USES IT, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY AND DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, UH, SO WHAT IF, I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M HUNG UP ON, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE TAX BASE UP THERE AS A PLACEHOLDER UNTIL WE CAN THINK OF A BETTER WORD. UM, BUT, UM, TAKE CON YOU CAN TAKE CONTRIBUTIONS BACK OUT. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, JUST LEAVE IT UP THERE FOR RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT CAN WE INSERT JOBS UP THERE SOMEWHERE? I MEAN, LIKE CON HOW, HOW ABOUT AFTER THE, AND JOB IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. HOW ABOUT THAT ECONOMIC IMPROVEMENT OR IN INCREASE JOBS? YOU SAYING? IN FRONT OF IMPROVEMENTS? OH, AND OH, WELL, I MEAN, NOW DON'T WRITE IT YET. OKAY. BUT I, ANYWAY, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO CREATE JOBS OR, OR IN FOOT. I WOULD CERTAINLY, HOW ABOUT WORKFORCE TALENT, WORKFORCE AND YOU KNOW, CREATING A, THAT TIES THE SCHOOLS INTO ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS, WHICH WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT CAME UP MULTIPLE TIMES. FRANK WAS BIG ON THAT. SO THAT WOULD INCORPORATE GREAT, UM, FRANK'S HOT BUTTON TO OPTIMIZE THE ECONOMIC, UH, OR TO OPTIMIZE, UH, TAX BASE WORKFORCE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES. WELL THEN THAT, WELL, WE GOT OPPORTUNITIES TWICE. YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH, FOR US TO ATTRACT BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY HERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE WORKFORCE THAT CAN MEET THEIR DEMAND. AND SO YEAH, THAT'S AN INTEGRAL PART IN, BUT WHAT IF AFTER ECONOMIC, YOU JUST PARENT, YOU KNOW, IN PUT JOB TAX THROUGH, THROUGH INCREASING JOBS AND TAX BACKS? WELL, I MEAN, SPELL OUT WHAT WE MEAN BY ECONOMIC. ECONOMIC IS, IS, IS WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE THROUGH OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACTS FROM WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND THEN IN TAX BASED, YOU KNOW, JOB OPPORTUNITIES, TAX BASED, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. AND THEN IT, IT WORKFORCE. I'M JUST SPITBALLING. HOW ABOUT ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS FROM WORKFORCE TAX BASE AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES? TAX BASE. CHIME IN. AIDEN, ANYTIME. ERIC AIDEN'S STARING AT IT, MA'AM. SO TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY FOR FRONT, FOR THE FRONT ROYAL COMMUNITY TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH WORKFORCE TAX BASE AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. WELL, I CAN'T, AM I CLOSE? THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. BUT YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT FLOWS. I WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THAT RIGHT. YEAH, NO, I, IT'S GETTING US CLOSE. ABSOLUTELY. INCORPORATE YOUR JOBS. INCORPORATE THE WORD TAX BASE. OXFORD CONTRIBUTION OR ASSESSMENT AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. YEAH. LEADERSHIP OPTIMIZES ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH WORKFORCE, THROUGH WORKFORCE TAX BASE. TAX BASE. NOT TOO MANY WORDS IN THERE. IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. LET'S LIVE WITH IT FOR A SECOND. LET'S SEE. DIGESTIVE, SPIT OUT THE GOOD PARTS, THE CONTRIBUTIONS, ECONOMIC IMPACT. UM, ECONOMIC FORCE GROWTH. GET RID OF THE WORD THROUGH. I LIKE THAT. [00:45:01] IMPACT INTERCHANGE BETWEEN THESE TWO. OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT OR ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS? ECONOMIC IMPACT. UH, I THINK I LIKE THAT BETTER. I LIKE A THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD, I LIKE IMPACT. I LIKE IT THROUGH WORKFORCE. INCREASED TAX BASE OR JUST, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE WORKFORCE BROADEN. TAX BASE INCREASE TAX. PUTTING THE TWO TOGETHER ISN'T A GOOD IDEA. MM-HMM. . . YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. NOT IN THE SAME SENTENCE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE WORD THROUGH ALTOGETHER INSTEAD COMMUNITY TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT. UH, WORKFORCE GROWTH AND, UH, TAX-BASED IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITY. WELL, I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULD, I WOULD WOULDN'T PUT IMPROVEMENT OR ANY OTHER ADJECTIVE OR WHATEVER ON THERE. I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT. TAX BASE WORKFORCE. YEAH. I KIND OF WORKFORCE GROWTH THROUGH WORKFORCE GROWTH MAKES, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS IF WE GROW THE WORKFORCE. WE WANNA OPTIMIZE OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT AND WE WANT TO HAVE WORKFORCE GROWTH. WE DON'T INCREASE OUR TAX BASE TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT. TAKE CONTRIBUTION. I'M TAKING IT, I'M GONNA TAKE IT OFF TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT. IF WE'RE DOING A RULE OF THREE HERE, LIKE WHAT IS THE, WHAT ECONOMIC IMPACT ARE WE SEEING SEPARATELY FROM WORKFORCE GROWTH AND TAX BASE? WE ARE, IF WE ARE OPTIMIZING THESE THREE THINGS, ECONOMIC IMPACT, WORKFORCE GROWTH AND TAX BASE, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY ECONOMIC IMPACT? THAT'S INCREASING THE TAX BASE. IT'S ANOTHER WORD TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH ECONOMIC IMPACT MEANS MORE BUSINESS, THAT'S TAX BASE. MORE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. YEAH. SORT OF CREATING INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT, IF I WERE TO SAY OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT, IT'S LIKE, SEE WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT HALF OF OUR COMMUNITY COMMUTES OUTSIDE OF HERE. MM-HMM. . AND, AND SO WE ACTUALLY HELP THEM WITH THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IF WE COULD GET THEM OFF THE ROAD AND, AND HAVE A BUSINESS HERE THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, FEED THEIR FAMILY WITH. UM, SO I MEAN THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT UP THERE, BUT IT, IT MAYBE IT'S A RULE OF THREE. YEAH. WELL, AND THE OTHER, I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S ON A DIFFERENT GENUS. LIKE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS UP HERE, 30,000 FEET AND WORKFORCE GROWTH AND TAX BASE TO ME ARE LIKE MUCH MORE IN THE WEEDS, MORE GROUND LEVEL. SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO THREE THINGS, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ACROSS THE SAME LEVEL OF OVERVIEW. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO STRUCTURE IT LIKE THAT EITHER. BUT THROUGH TAKING OUT THE THROUGH I THINK IS IMPORTANT IN SO FAR AS WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THOSE TWO THINGS. YEAH. BUT TAKING IT OUT ALSO MEANS NOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS BIG OVERARCHING THING. AND THEN TOO MUCH MORE. I, FOR ME, I WANTED TO BRING US BACK TO THE VISION. AND VISION SHOULD BE BROAD ENOUGH THAT I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE GOALS OR MISSION OR, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVES THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE TO SUPPORT THIS. SO JUST MY THOUGHT ON THAT. YOU THINKING MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE TOO FOCUSED. YEAH. 'CAUSE WHAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE INCORPORATING THINGS WE WANT TO DO, SUCH AS GROW THE WORKFORCE, RIGHT? WHAT THE END RESULT IS, WHICH IS INCREASE OUR TAX BASE, WHICH THEN CAN CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES. SO JUST SAY COMMUNITY TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. PERSONALLY BE I AGREE WITH JOE. YEAH. I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IF YOU, IF YOU GET TOO FINITE IN YOUR MISSION, I MEAN MISSION STATEMENT IS KIND OF A BROAD, A BROAD THING. IT'S UM, AND, AND IF IT'S TOO FOCUSED, YOU DON'T WANNA LIMIT YOURSELF. NOT, I MEAN, I, AND AGAIN, TO ME, ECONOMIC MEANS ALL OF THESE THINGS. YEAH. AN ECONOMY IS ALL OF THESE THINGS, WELL, ECONOMIC IMPACT INCLUDE TAXES, YOU KNOW. YEAH. THE ECONOMIC TAX BASE COULD FALL UNDER ECONOMIC IMPACT. IF WE WANTED TO ADD FLOWERS TO THE WORD TAX BASE, ECONOMIC IMPACT COULD FALL WITHIN THAT REALM. I THINK. I THINK YOU GO BACK TO WHAT YOU HAD, I THINK TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP NECESSARY FOR THE FRONT ROYAL COMMUNITY TO OPTIMIZE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND ON YOUR LANDING PAGE, ON THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN INCLUDE THINGS [00:50:01] OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, OVERARCHING GOALS ARE DEVELOPING A STRONGER WORKFORCE, INCREASING OUR TAX BASE, WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE. AND IT COULD BE BULLET POINTS YOU CAN CLICK ON AND IN MY OPINION, YEAH. YOU KNOW, FLOWER IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE HONESTY IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD WHERE YOU'RE SAYING TAX IT IS WHAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT IS A THING THAT WE ALMOST, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME TAXES. I'M TELLING IF WE BROUGHT CHICK-FIL-A IN HERE, THE MEAL TAX REVENUE WOULD JUMP . SO WHAT DEPENDS UPON WHICH THAT 66 IT'S ON, IT PROBABLY WOULD. I MEAN I, SAME THING WITH THE CHIPOTLE. I MEAN ANY IDEA WHERE YOU WANNA PUT IT AT FOR YEARS, I THOUGHT THEY WOULD NEVER CONTACT HERE. THEY'RE SEE WHAT THEY WANNA SAY. WELL, IDEALLY RIGHT BY THE INTERSTATE OF COURSE. BUT UM, IT SHOULD TAKE OVER MCDONALD'S THAT CLOSED MCDONALD'S. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR CHICK-FIL-A IT'S NOWHERE NEAR BIG. THAT WOULD MAKE NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE. TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC SITUATION. WHERE, WHERE WILL IT NOT BE? CHICK-FIL-A WHERE MCDONALD'S WAS? YEAH. GOING BACK TO CHICK-FIL-A WHERE WILL IT NOT BE A NIGHTMARE? I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK. WELL, I MEAN WE, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. TRUE. I'M NARROWING THIS DOWN. I MEAN THAT'S A FUN DISCUSSION. IT IS TO HAVE. AND, AND I'VE BEEN THAT GUY THAT'S DRIVEN OFF THE INTERSTATE AND THEN DRIVEN FOUR OR FIVE MILES INTO A TOWN BECAUSE THERE WAS A SIGN THAT SAID THERE'S A CHICK-FIL-A RIGHT HERE. WORTH IT. THERE'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT. I'M NOT TOO HAPPY THOUGH. I LIKE IT WHEN THEY'RE RIGHT BY THE RIGHT AFTER YOU PASS MASS CHICK-FIL-A I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU GOTTA GO DOWN, TURN LEFT, GO UP ACROSS THE ROAD. IT'S A NIGHTMARE COLLEGE. THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. I MEAN IT IS. IT'S RIDICULOUS. THEY HAVE THREE LANES AND ONE OF THEM IS ALMOST ON, ON A HIGHWAY. THERE'S THREE LANES AND ONE OF THEM IS ALMOST ENTIRELY CHICKO. SO ARE WE HERE? IT'S RIDICULOUS. I THINK WE'RE HERE HERE. YEAH. IT'S, AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE VISION NOW THAT WE FINALIZED, QUOTE UNQUOTE FINALIZED THE MISSION, SUSTAIN AND GROW AND GROW HEALTHY ECONOMY THAT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY AND PROTECTS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE FRONT WORLD UNIQUE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I LIKE IT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS NOW, BUT I THINK IN A SIMILAR WAY WE COULD DO OVERARCHING GOALS FOR THE VISION. LIKE WHAT DO WE MEAN BY PROTECTING CHARACTERS? YOU GOT A GOOD START THERE. MM-HMM. COMMUNITY. I SAY WE LEAVE IT UP THERE AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, BUT I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. CUT TO NICE JOB. OKAY. THAT'S BIG. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REALIZE HOW BIG THAT IS, BUT TO HAVE ALL OF YOU AT THE TABLE AND BE ABLE TO BE ON A CONSISTENT MESSAGE, THAT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL. YEAH. WE DIDN'T BLEED TOO MUCH ALL OVER THE BOARD EITHER. NOT BAD AT ALL. ALRIGHT. SO GOOD STRONG NICK HEAD WORK. YEAH. YEAH. NICELY DONE. YOU'RE THE FOUNDATION OF MOST OF IT. YEAH. THANK YOU NICK. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO YOU'VE GOT THIS WHOLE PAGE OF GOALS AND THINGS THAT YOU WANT. MM-HMM. , WHERE DO WE START? I HAVE AN IDEA, BUT IT'S NOT MY RODEO, SO I WANNA HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS THINK. WELL, YOUR IDEAS GET US MOTIVATED TO TALK . IT IS. THROW IT OUT THERE. LIZ AND I. WELL, AND I, I WANT YOU GUYS TO TALK NOT JUST TO YOU GUYS, BUT I, I ACTUALLY WANNA FOCUS MORE ON, AT LEAST AT THE BEGINNING, ON PLANTING SOME SEEDS OF THINGS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON OTHER PROJECTS. 'CAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA WORK ON MORE THAN ONE THING AT ONCE. I'M QUITE CERTAIN. MM-HMM. . UH, BUT THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT UPDATED REAL ESTATE INVENTORY. AGAIN, I WANNA START THAT CONVERSATION WITH COMMERCIAL AGENTS AND, AND BUILDING OWNERS RIGHT HERE. STUFF WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE CONNECTIONS WE ALREADY CAN FORGE. UM, AND I ALSO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CREATING THAT NEW BUSINESS NAVIGATION. MM-HMM. . UM, I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE EXISTING AND THE NEW BUSINESS SUPPORT HERE, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. UM, SO I MEAN, DAVID'S ALREADY DONE LIKE 86% OF THE WORK. WELL, I'VE DONE, YEAH. I WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR. , BUT, BUT HONESTLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EMAIL SITTING IN OUTLOOK AT THE TOP WHERE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAMES, BUT IT'S LIKE MY CLIENT IS LOOKING FOR X, Y, Z MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. IT'S, IT'S LIKE THE SECOND, FIRST OR SECOND EMAIL IN, IN OUR COLLECTIVE EMAIL, UH, ON OUTLOOK. AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S LIKE NO ONE'S ANSWERED IT. UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT AS WELL IN TERMS OF [00:55:01] WHO'S GONNA TAKE THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER IT 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA SPEAK, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T WANNA SPEAK COUNTY INSURANCE. I DUNNO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DAVID. IF THERE'S AN INQUIRY WE COULD AT LEAST SAY, YOU KNOW, AT, AT, AT THIS MOMENT. WE ARE STILL ABSOLUTELY. I, I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS MESSAGE. I'M SORRY. UM, ARE YOU ON THE I AM NOT. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. HAS ANYONE ELSE SEEN IT OR NO? YEAH. OH YEAH. SOMEBODY ASKING ABOUT DATA CENTER. SOMEBODY ASKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT OTHER SITES ARE THERE? I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. IT'S ON THE, YEAH, THERE WAS, YOU SEND OUT FREEDOM, THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT A DATA CENTER.COM. YEAH, THERE'S PARCEL QUESTION. I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING LOTS OF, WE'RE GETTING SOME STUFF THAT'S JUST, WE'RE GETTING SOME INPUT. OKAY. WELL WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE ALSO GETTING SOME KIND OF ODD QUESTIONS. THERE WAS ONE ON HERE WHERE THEY WERE CLEARLY JUST IN THE WRONG PLACE AND I WANTED TO REDIRECT THEM, BUT AGAIN, I'M LIKE, MAYBE THIS ISN'T MY PLACE. YEAH, EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THROUGH ANY OF, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AND, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, MY BANDWIDTH THIS LAST FEW WEEKS HAS BEEN PRETTY FULL, SO. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, I HAVE THE SAME ISSUE, BUT I, I DO, I DO LOOK AT IT AND, AND THEN I'M LIKE, SOMEBODY SHOULD ANSWER THIS AND I'M NOT SEEING IT. MAYBE IT IS GETTING ANSWERED, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SOMEHOW THEY'RE GETTING TO US. SURE. AND IF, IF IT'S A DEAD LETTER OFFICE, WE CAN FIX THAT. THAT'S FIXABLE. THAT'S EASILY FIXABLE. ABSOLUTELY. I WAS UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS, I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? I, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A LIST I WASN'T ON. RIGHT. BUT, BUT AGAIN, MY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS THIS IDEA, IT'S POINT OF CONTACT AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO INVENTORY, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S HERE. YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF TOM HAS THE MIDDLE OF MAIN BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BOTTOM FLOOR SAY, AND IT, IT IS JUST SITTING VACANT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING 8,000 SQUARE FEET? NINE FOR THE FIRST FLOOR? YEAH. OKAY. 9,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR. OKAY. TOM'S GOT OTHER STUFF. HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE IS GOT KIDS IN COLLEGE, HE'S DOING ALL THAT. YOU KNOW, HE IS GOT A JOB AND, AND YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S 9,000 SQUARE FEET. AND SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE, OKAY, IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT THE, WE GOT THIS, WE GOT THIS. OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, AND SO NOW WE CAN KIND OF AT LEAST PUT YOU IN, IN A, IN AN AVENUE OR A DISCUSSION WITH TOM, NICK AND RICK. THEY'RE THE ONLY THREE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN THAT HAVE 9,000 SQUARE FEET AVAILABLE. I GET THOSE QUESTIONS IN TOURISM TOO. WHAT WHAT'S THAT? I GET THOSE QUESTIONS IN TOURISM TOO. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, PEOPLE WILL BE ON THE TOURISM SIDE AND WE'LL SEND US A, A CONTACT FORM OF, HEY, I WANNA BRING A RESTAURANT TO YOUR DOWNTOWN. WHAT DO YOU GOT? SO I I WHAT'S YOUR EMAIL? E LEWIS. L-E-W-I-S. MM-HMM. AT FRONT ROYAL VA DO COM. SO I'LL GIVE YOU A BACKWARDS. THANK YOU. YOU CAN TELL ME IF YOU WANT TO EMBRACE THIS IDEA OR NOT, BUT I WAS THINKING UNDER THE CONFLICT AND DESIRE GOALS. SOME OF THOSE AREN'T REALLY GOALS, THEY'RE JUST WAYS WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS UTILIZING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. MM-HMM. , I MEAN, WE JUST KIND OF WANNA ALIGN WITH IT. WE WANT, WE WANT TO, IT WAS PAID FOR, IT WAS UTILIZED. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A GOAL FOR US TO DO THAT. I'M, AGAIN, ONE PERSON MAINTAINING AND VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE ON OUR LIST. OKAY. WE'RE HERE. AND OUR, OUR MISSION VISION, JUST TO FIND, THIS IS WHAT WE WROTE ON THE BOARD. RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT'S, IT'S ALLOWING ME TO SHAPE THIS A LITTLE BIT. RECRUITING RESTAURANTS, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S TOO FOCUSED. SO UNDER THE FIRST ONE, I LIKE DIALOGUE WITH ZUI BUSINESSES. I LIKE IDENTIFY TARGET SECTORS. AND I LIKE FACILITATING EDUCATION FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING LOCALLY. MM-HMM. . AND MY, MY NEXT THOUGHT ON THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHETHER THIS IS A THOUGHT I WOULD ASSUME WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THE VO-TECH CENTER, AND I COULD BE WRONG HERE. MAYBE IT'S GONNA BE SOMEBODY AT LAUREL RIDGE. THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT'S COLLECTED THE DATA OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF OUR TOWN AND THE COMPANIES THAT ARE OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT OUR FOCUS, THE SCHOOLS ARE IN OUR TOWN SYSTEM. UM, ARE YOU WANTING TO FOCUS MORE ON THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE NEED HERE IN DOWNTOWN FRONT ROYAL? BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY GETTING TOO BIG OUT THAT WAY FOR US. WELL, THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, THESE ARE ALL ENCOMPASSING IDEAS. I, I, YEARS AGO I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, OKAY, IF YOU WANT X, Y, Z IF, SAY YOU WANT GOOGLE TO COME TO FRONT ROYAL, OKAY. AND, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN, YOU KNOW, OR, OR I, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT GUY AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT ANYWAY, IF YOU'RE GONNA BRING SOMETHING INTO FRONT ROYAL AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, 15, 20, YOU KNOW, HIGHER END MANAGEMENT POSITIONS, [01:00:01] OKAY. THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING ALONG ARE GONNA START CLICKING IN FRONT ROYAL REAL ESTATE. THEY'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT THE SCHOOLS. THEY'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT WHAT IS HERE. TOTALLY AGREE. AND THEN THEY MIGHT PUSH BACK AND SAY, NO, YOU KNOW, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE ME FROM, YOU KNOW, THIS LOVELY PLACE IN SEATTLE TO, OR, OR SAN FRANCISCO, WHEREVER IT IS. AND, AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA PUT ME IN, IN FRONT ROYAL. WHAT, WHY? YOU KNOW, AND, AND LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS. I CAN'T MOVE MY KIDS THERE. 'CAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS, AND I DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THE SCHOOLS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT, IT, IT'S, UM, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE INTERTWINED. IT, IT'S, WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA ATTRACT SOMETHING, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GO FOR A BIG FISH, YOU BETTER HAVE A BIG RULE. OH, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. YOU, I'M JUST WONDERING WHO'S THAT PERSON THAT CAN ADVISE US OUR NEEDS. EXACTLY. AND, AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOLS HAVE, I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SEEING, SEEING THE KIDS THAT I EMPLOY AND, AND THEY ALL GET EXCITED ABOUT GOING OVER TO THE, THE, UM, OUT OF SKYLINE SCHOOL AND OVER TO THAT AREA. YOU KNOW, UH, I CAN'T, WHAT, WHAT'S IT CALLED AGAIN? THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE TECH CENTER, THIS WORKFORCE KIND OF STUFF. GO TECH CENTER. GO TECH CENTER. YEAH. I MEAN, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CALLED. I'VE ALWAYS NOTICED THE GO TECH CENTER MEAN THESE KIDS GET EXCITED ABOUT IT. I MEAN, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER THERE AND LEARNING TO WELD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY GET EXCITED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, THE GUY FROM DIRTY JOBS, YOU KNOW, HE MADE A BIG PUSH ABOUT THE TRADES, THE TRADES, THE TRADES. FRANK IS A EXAMPLE OF THAT. IT'S, IT'S SORT OF LIKE, IT'S THIS, IT'S THIS THING THAT'S BEING IGNORED. BECAUSE FOR SO LONG WE WERE TAUGHT DR. LAWYER. WELL, I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN ONE OF OUR BULLETS. I I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, NO, I AGREE TOO. UH, I, I THINK WE CAN GET ANSWERS FROM BOTH OF THOSE PLACES, ACTUALLY. SO I, I THINK JAMISON, UM, WHO'S KIND OF THEIR JOB DEVELOPER OVER AT BLUE RIDGE TECH CENTER, UH, SHE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US. AND I THINK CHRISTINE FROM, UM, SBBC AND WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AT LAUREL, LAUREL RIDGE, I THINK SHE'D BE HELPFUL AS WELL. OKAY. GO AHEAD, JUDGE. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS. I'D BE SURPRISED THESE FOLKS HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION. I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF, IF, IF YOU'RE AT THE VO-TECH CENTER, THERE'S KIDS THAT ARE GONNA GO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOW AND GO GET THEIR, THEIR, UH, CERTIFICATE OR WHATEVER. AND, AND STEP ONE AND TWO IS LITTLE RICH, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT. UM, AND SO THESE KIDS, I WOULD THINK THERE'S GOTTA BE A PAMPHLET OR SOMETHING SITTING THERE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SEE THAT RIGHT IN AS THEY ENTER THE BUILDING OR WHATEVER. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I'M, I THINK WE MENTIONED THE LAST TIME, A ROADMAP. AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS. IT'S LIKE, THERE ARE SEVERAL ROADMAPS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF EITHER FIND OR DRAW UP OURSELVES IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE GET THERE? YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT, IF WE WANT A BUSINESS, HOW DO WE GET THERE? IF A BUSINESS COMES IN HERE, HOW DO THEY GET THERE? YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME WHAT'S UNDER THEIR, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO FRONT ROYAL AND SAID IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO BUSINESS THERE. I MEAN, IT WAS IN THE PAPER YEARS AGO. MM-HMM. . AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE EASIEST, I WAS JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT WITH SOMEBODY AND THEY WERE LIKE, THIS IS THE GREATEST. IT'S LIKE, THERE'S NOWHERE WHERE YOU GET ALMOST A PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE THAT CAN DIRECT YOU AND WANTS TO DIRECT YOU IN THE RIGHT WAY. MM-HMM. . UM, YOU KNOW, AND I LIKE HEARING THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED. AND, AND YOU KNOW, BUT I'VE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE SAY, WELL, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOO MUCH REGULATION AND WHATEVER. AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RULES EVERYWHERE. YOU KNOW, . MM-HMM. . RIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO I, I THINK WHERE WE'RE REALLY HEADING RIGHT NOW, AND IT SOUNDS GOOD, IS, IS WHAT I CALL THEMES. SO, AND THAT YOU DEVELOP THESE THEMES TO GET YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. AND SO I'M HERE IN WORKFORCE, SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE IN ITSELF IS A THEME, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS DOING AN INVENTORY OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT THERE NOW LOCALLY AT THE BLUE TECH, UH, THE BLUE RIDGE TECH CENTER, AS WELL AS, UH, LAUREL RIDGE. AND THEN, UH, PART OF THAT REACHING OUT TO THE EXISTING BUSINESSES, SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. THEY'RE NOT BEING ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW. AND SO THEREFORE THEN WE CAN EXPAND ON THAT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. SO I, I THINK WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS A GREAT, UH, THEME OR BUCKET TO START DEVELOPING GOALS. AND THEN WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT THOSE OTHER THEMES AND THEN WE CAN START WORKING OURSELVES DOWN TO ACTUALLY HAVING SOME DIRECT GOALS, ACHIEVABLE, MEASURABLE THINGS THAT WE CAN GET ACCOMPLISHED. MM-HMM. . [01:05:06] SO THE THEMES. SO DO, I MEAN, I, I, CAN WE DECIDE WHAT OUR THEMES ARE TODAY? YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S THAT FIRST STEP, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA MOLD EVERYTHING ELSE. RIGHT. AND, AND LIKE I SAID, WORKFORCE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT HERE JUST IN THE LAST 15 MINUTES. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE THEME. MM-HMM. . SO, I MEAN, YOU SAID WORKFORCE, RIGHT? AND SO I'LL SAY BUSINESS AND DO WE BREAK THAT INTO EXISTING BUSINESS AND NEW BUSINESS? WHAT DO YOU GOT? WHAT DO YOU GUYS, I MEAN YES. YEAH. EXIST. I MEAN, THEY'RE DIFFERENT. THESE ARE DIFFERENT. YEAH. THE NEEDS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. OKAY. WHAT'S AN, WHAT'S ANOTHER THEME? INFRASTRUCTURE. IT, IS THAT A THEME? YEAH. I, I, I THINK THAT IS, YEAH. IT'S BIG ON MY PLUG BUCKET LIST. YEAH. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT AN INDUSTRY OR BUSINESS, THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK OTHER PLACES. SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. DO I HAVE ANYTHING IN MY OLD NOTES? AND WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN. SO THESE BEING THE ONLY THEMES WE EVER HAVE EVER. YEAH. THESE FOUR ARE A GOOD START. IF THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. WELL, IT'S KIND OF, AGAIN, IT'S ECONOMY. IT'S WHAT'S IN, WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY. RIGHT? SO YOU WANNA START WITH THOSE FOUR THEN? YEAH. OKAY. REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR REAL ESTATE INVENTORY IN SOME, IN SOME WAYS IT'S TRYING TO TAKE WHAT WE CURRENTLY OWN OR WHATEVER. WELL, THAT'S GONNA GO UNDER NEW BUSINESS THOUGH. WELL, NOT NECESSARILY CONSIDER EXPANSIONS EXPANSION, SOME THINGS. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. THERE ARE THESE MAYBE REAL AVAILABLE NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN. I WON'T ARGUE WITH THAT. IT'S GONNA, THAT'S A, THAT'S GONNA BE A REAL TOUGH ONE. YEAH. I MEAN, AGAIN, IT IT, I WAS ASKING BJ ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, IT IS LIKE, I PAY SALES TAX, RIGHT? SO IN INSTANTLY, IF I'M DOING IT, OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING, OR MEALS TAX, YOU KNOW, LODGING, TAX, WHATEVER. SO THE DATABASE IS THERE. I MEAN, HE ALREADY KNOWS, HE KNOWS OR HAS ACCESS TO ALL OF THE EXISTING BUSINESSES IN FRONT ROYAL THAT ARE OPERATING IN A LEGAL FASHION AND PAYING THEIR, YOU KNOW, BPO IS THE SAME IDEA. MM-HMM. , YOU'VE GOT A LIST. UM, NOW OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GET INTO REAL ESTATE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S THE LIST, YOU KNOW, IT'S PUTTING THIS PARCEL WITH THIS PERSON, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHETHER WE'RE NOT, WE CAN ACCESS THAT IS ANOTHER, IS ANOTHER THING. BUT CLEARLY IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S OUT THERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK ON THE GIS AND FIND OUT WHO, AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN UPDATED, IT, SOMETIMES IT TAKES LIKE TWO MONTHS TO GET UPDATED WHEN IT'S, WHEN THE PARCEL SELLS. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK ON GIS AND FIND EVERY PARCEL WITHIN FRONT ROYAL AND WHO OWNS IT. MM-HMM. . SO I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE ASSET MANAGEMENT OR ASSET DEVELOPMENT. MM-HMM. . WHICH IS KIND OF TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THE OTHER ONES, BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. I THINK THAT'S YOUR FIFTH BUCKET. SO INSTEAD OF REAL ESTATE, CALL IT ASSET ASSET DEVELOPMENT, OR I LIKE DEVELOPMENT. UM, YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THEN EVERYTHING WOULD TIE INTO WHAT OUR INVENTORY IS, WHAT'S AVAILABLE, WHAT'S ZONED. YEAH. I GOTCHA. YEAH. I GUESS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE NO DESIRE TO SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY JUST WANNA SIT ON IT AND THAT'S YEAH. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I DO THAT, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT. RIGHT. YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE VERY, VERY EARLY ON WE LEARNED THAT, I MEAN, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, UM, ITSELF OWNS AND, AND CAN CONTROL IS VERY LITTLE IN TERMS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. VERY LITTLE. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT OTHER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM OF THE, THE, UH, THE TWO JOINTLY OWNED EDA PROPERTY, OR NOT TWO, BUT THE, THE SEVERAL PARCELS THAT, THAT ARE OWNED BY THE EDA THAT WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE TOWN OF ROYAL. YEAH. SO, I MEAN THERE, WE STILL HAVE STOCK IN THAT SOME, SOME, WHETHER OR NOT IT EVER GETS REALIZED BECAUSE OF THE DEBT AND ALL OF THAT [01:10:01] OTHER STUFF THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE, IN THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING WE ALL WENT TO. MM-HMM. . UM, THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, AN EVER, BUT, BUT AT THE SAME THINK MINIMAL THOUGH. HUH? I THINK IT'S PRETTY MINIMAL ANYMORE. THIS IS A, I'M NOT READY TO UNTANGLE THAT. JUST, YEAH. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO FIX THIS. RIGHT. AND THERE SOME LITIGATION PROCESS STUFF. I MEAN, BUT THEY HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT, THOSE, THOSE PARCELS OF LAND. THE ONES, WE HAVE A LIST OF IT. SO, I MEAN, I HAVE IT IN MY TRUCK, I'M SURE. RIGHT. UM, HYPOTHETICALLY IF ONE OF THOSE CELLS, IS ALL OF THAT SALES MONEY GOING TOWARD, UH, THE LAWSUIT? YES. OKAY. I THINK THE LAWYERS ARE ALL TRYING TO SORT THAT OUT AND WE ARE WASTING OUR TIME DISCUSSING IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT. OKAY. WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON, AND I'LL KEEP THAT. I WANT REBRANDING EFFORT. . YEAH. I HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF AGAIN TWO TIMES THIS WEEK. WHY WOULD YOU WANNA BE ON THAT? I, I HEAR IT. I MEAN, I HAD A DISCUSSION RIGHT NEXT DOOR WITH SOMEBODY WHO THOUGHT THAT I WAS ON THE OTHER ONE. YEAH. AND, AND, AND I WAS LIKE, NO. AND, AND, BUT EVEN THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, ISN'T AN EVIL ENTITY. THOSE GUYS, THOSE GUYS ARE DOING THE SAME THING. THEY'RE TRYING TO OPERATE IN A CLEAN, AND, AND, WELL, THEY'RE NOT EVIL. IT'S JUST THE NAME RECOGNITION, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S TERRIBLE. AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, THAT'S WHERE YOU SAY THAT PERSON IS CURRENTLY IN, YOU KNOW, WELL, NOT, PROBABLY NOT. WHEN WE SWITCHED TO EDAI WAS VERY PROUD OF THAT SWITCH. YEAH. UM, 'CAUSE I WAS, YOU KNOW, HONEST WE WERE AN IDA. RIGHT, RIGHT. SAT IN A BEAUTY SALON THE OTHER DAY WITH MY WIFE AND HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF FOR HALF AN HOUR OR SOMETHING. YOU WORKING ON YOUR HAIR TOO? YEAH. I LOVE THAT HERE. . THAT WAS NICE. HER TO GO WITH YOU. . THAT'S MY LITTLE TREAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. YOU WANNA GO? GOOD PEDIC MY DAUGHTER AND MY WIFE. GOD, IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE I'VE VISITED THIS. GOTTA REMIND MYSELF OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. WE COME FRONT ROW BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, TOWN DEVELOPMENT BOARD SLASH COUNCIL, FRONT ROW DEVELOPMENT BOARD SLASH COUNCIL. AND THESE ARE JUST, OH MAN, SUGGESTIONS. I'VE GOT A FUNNY, NOT FUNNY STORY. UH, BEFORE WE, UH, START DOWN THIS ROAD, I JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE A FEW THINGS REAL QUICK AND GET A CONSENSUS FROM THIS. BUT, UM, THOSE KIND OF THEMES THAT WE DEVELOPED, THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE AREAS. MY THOUGHT WOULD BE IS THAT MAYBE, AND JUST I WANTED Y'ALL TO TAKE THIS BACK AS FOOD FOR THOUGHT THAT WE COULD DEVELOP FIVE COMMITTEES IN THOSE AREAS AND WE COULD GET SOME SUBCOMMITTEES GOING TO START REALLY WORKING BULLETING DOWN ON THOSE THEMES, WHAT OUR GOALS SHOULD BE SO THAT THEY COULD BRING THEM BACK TO THE GROUP. JUST GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES ALREADY. NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT IT'S JUST A WAY TO TRY TO ACCELERATE IT AND GET SOME IDEAS IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE GROUP. BUT GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT THAT COULD BE, UH, A BUSINESS ITEM, UH, AT THE FEBRUARY 5TH, FIFTH MEETING. UM, SO JUST KIND OF GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT. SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE ON DOWN THIS PATH AS YOU JUST SUGGESTED. AND I'M, I'M, AND I'M ONLY ONE OF SEVEN OR WHATEVER. UM, BUT THAT'S A DIRECTION AHEAD UNTIL WE FIND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, NEED TO CHANGE DIRECTION OR MODIFY OR, OR WHATEVER. WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA GO IN A DIRECTION. YEP. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, LET'S DO THAT AT THE, AT THE, LET'S, LET'S AT LEAST HAVE THESE THINGS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. RIGHT. AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER THERE. OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. SO, SO, SO THAT WE CAN GAUGE HOW MUCH FURTHER TO GO TODAY? ARE WE HERE TILL 10 30 OR 11? I'M NOT GOING PAST 11. UH, IT'S 10 30. I'M, I'M UP FOR 10 30. 10 30 WORKS FOR ME. 10 30. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 15 MINUTES TO, UM, DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE HERE? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO, I MEAN, DO YOU WANNA START THROWING THINGS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS LEFT OUT AND MM-HMM. , WE GET LEGAL. YOU, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW A NAME CHANGE. I MEAN, ARE WE ALWAYS FRIDA AND OPERATING AS, HAS GEORGE GIVEN YOU ANY OPINION ON THAT? NO, I HAVE NOT GOT AN OPINION ON THAT. BUT MY THOUGHT IS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. EVEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK OF A DBA, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE GET A NEW, IF WE CREATE A NEW NAME, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE TOWN CODE. WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME REFERENCE TO THAT. MM-HMM. . BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN OBSTACLE. WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO [01:15:01] WORK THROUGH THAT. UH, BUT I WILL GET THAT FINAL DETERMINATION. I STILL THINK IT'S JUST YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OFFICIALLY DO YOU. WE ARE OFFICIALLY FRIDA. WE LEAVE IT AT THAT AND THEN WE JUST START PUTTING IT OUT THERE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE BEAUTY PARLOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST TOUCHES 17 MORE PEOPLE THROUGH SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION OR WHATEVER. YEAH. BUT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY, SORRY, NICK, GO AHEAD. I WAS GONNA SAY, AS LONG AS EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE AGREES WHAT WE ARE CALLED AND THAT IS TOLD TO THE PAPERS OR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO INTERVIEW US OR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO REACH OUT TO US RIGHT. TO TRY AND APPROACH US ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN FRONT ROYAL, THEN NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GONE BACK AS ADVISORY BOARD OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD OR WHATEVER IT WE'LL, WE WILL WRITE A PRESS RELEASE. YEAH. MM-HMM. THAT OUTLINES OUR DISCUSSION AND OUR DECISION. STATUTORILY WE OPERATE AS FREEDA. MM-HMM. . BUT TO THE PUBLIC WE ARE MM-HMM. WHATEVER. YEP. ARE THERE ANYTHING IS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT AREN'T ON HERE RIGHT NOW? UM, ON THIS LIST? I KNOW NICK DOES. YEAH, I HEARD HIM READ . UM, SO, SO NUMBER 10. NUMBER 10, UH, FRONT ROYAL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, FRBD. UM, I'VE GOT ONE TO INCLUDE ON THERE AND ONLY 'CAUSE IT'S A KIND OF DARK HUMOR, FUNNY STORY. UH, , UH, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO, THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON THE WINCHESTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. UM, AND HE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT LIKE ROYAL OAK BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT? I SAID, YEAH, YEAH. WAIT, THE ACRONYM IS ROBBED . NO, YOU THAT, SO ROYAL OAK BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IS OFF THE TABLE. GOOD ONE THOUGH. WELL, AND QUITE FRANKLY, FRONT ROW CAN BE ADDED TO ANY OF THE NAMES UP ABOVE. YEAH, EXACTLY. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. IT'S, YEAH, IT'S BOARD OR COUNCIL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S REALLY ALL I, THAT'S THOSE ARE THE, THE HANGUPS. IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS INTERCHANGEABLE IN HERE? IT'S JUST LIKE PLAYING A BIG GAME OF TWISTERS. LIKE JUST WHY JUST REARRANGE THE BLOCKS? MM-HMM. AND LIKE A PRICE IS RIGHT GAME. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE, WHICH NAMES BETWEEN FRONT ROYAL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD COUNCIL IMPROVEMENT ECONOMIC, DID YOU HAVE ANY THROW 'EM IN THERE. LIKE, I REALLY LIKED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. MM-HMM. BD DP NUMBER THREE. NICK. YEAH. I LIKE THREE TOO. THAT WAS PROBABLY OUT OF ALL OF 'EM. THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS. YEAH. I GIVE THAT THE NUMBER ONE. THE ONLY REASON Y'ALL KEPT USING THE WORD COMMUNITY AND MISSION AND, AND, UM, I, I JUST, BUT I LIKED NUMBER THREE THE BEST. SO, UM, I, I LIKE THAT ONE A LOT AS WELL. I THINK WE'RE A BOARD, NOT A COUNCIL. MM-HMM. . YEAH. DON'T WANT ANY CONFUSION OR STEP ON ANYBODY'S TOES. SO, AND, AND TO ME, I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE FRONT ROYAL OUT OF IT. OKAY. JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT. IT'S JUST A MOUTHFUL. . YEAH. I MEAN WE'RE, IF WE'RE STATUTORILY THE FRONT ROYAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MM-HMM. , CAN WE JUST BE THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD? I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE AND PUSH BACK IF I'M WRONG, IF THERE IS A SORT, SOME SORT OF A NEWS RELEASE OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA DISTINGUISH WHETHER IT'S COUNTY OR THAT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PAPER, UNLESS YOU WANNA SAY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD UP FRONT ROYAL. THEY COULD SAY THAT IF THEY WANTED TO. JUST, WHEN I'M HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH JOE DOS ON THE SIDEWALK, I WANNA SAY I'M ON THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THERE YOU GO. AND, AND, AND, AND I COULD SAY UPFRONT ROYAL, BUT HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT ANY OF THESE? I YOUR, YOUR OPINION'S IMPORTANT AS WELL. LIZZIE, UM, AND JOE, I, I LIKE THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I, MYSELF, I'VE BEEN RACKING MY HEAD OF TRYING TO FIND A GOOD ACRONYM THAT WOULD CARRY SOME WEIGHT AND BE ABLE TO MARKET AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I I IT DOESN'T SINK. YEAH. IT JUST DOESN'T SINK. AND THEN HONESTLY, WHEN I THINK OF FRIDA, THAT WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, THAT IN ITSELF STANDS ALONE. SO I'M TRYING TO FRIDA, DON'T LET HIM FOOL YOU. HE LIKES THE ACRONYM. I LIKE FRIDA TOO. I LOVE FRIDA. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE ATTACHMENT, THE SOCIAL ATTACHMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH IT. IT, IT IS, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS WAS A CONVERSATION IN A DINER THIS PAST TUESDAY, A NEIGHBORING TA TABLE, AND YOU KNOW, SITTING THERE JUST DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. I DON'T WANT TAKE TOO MUCH TIME, BUT THE OTHER TABLE, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA BE A PART OF THAT? I, I GET [01:20:01] ASKED THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING. I WOULD BE LIKE, WHY WOULDN'T I, I MEAN, WHAT, YOU KNOW, I TELL THEM, I SAID, I'M TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT. YEAH. YEAH. HEY, I LIKE FRIDA, BUT WOULD YOU RATHER, WOULD YOU RATHER JUST, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD ALWAYS GO BACK TO FRIDA. COULD YOU BE THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF FRIDA? NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT I'M ON THE DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR FREE. IT'S REALLY EASY TO SAY. BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I, I AGREE WITH RICK. IT'S VERY REALLY, THAT DOES ROLL. YEAH. AND I THINK, YEAH, I AGREE. THAT DOES. AND IF WE COME OUT UNITED ON THAT, WHATEVER NAME WE PICK, WE JUST CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT OUT THERE. AND IT WILL BE, OH, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL DISTINCTIVELY KNOW. SO I DON'T THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE TO HAVE FRONT ROLL IN THERE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY OURSELVES SO THAT WHEN THEY HEAR THAT THEY KNOW WHO THEY'RE DEALING WITH. SO I AGREE WITH YOU. I LIKE FRIDA. IT ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE. UM, THE SOCIAL ATTACHMENT TO IT, I DON'T, IT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS. THERE MAY BE A GENERATION TO GET OVER THAT. SO COMING UP WITH WHAT TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, ON MY TAX FORMS ON NICHOLAS BASS, EVERYBODY CALLS ME NICK. SO, SO IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN I, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE BE, ALTHOUGH WHILE WE ARE STILL FRIDA, IBDB SOUNDS FINE TO ME. BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I AGREE. YOU WANNA MOTION? SOUNDS GOOD. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALL, WE CAN'T MAKE, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION HERE. OH, OKAY. JUST A SESSION DISCUSS. WE CAN PUT IT ON. OH, IT'S A WORK SESSION. IT COULD BE THE NAME CHANGE CAN BE ON THE AGENDA FOR, YEAH. SO WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE, AND HOW DO WE FOR THAT, WE, I THINK WE NEED TO PHRASE IT. SO WOULD IT BE THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF FRIDA? I THINK YOU'RE SAYING JUST BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. WE'RE GOING TRADE AS DOING BUSINESS AS YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND WE'LL WRITE A PRESS RELEASE. WE CAN SHARE THE PRESS RELEASE WITH EVERYBODY, UM, BEFORE IT GOES OUT. AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, HEARTBURN ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE SAY IN IT. AND I THINK IF IT'S UTILIZED AS A REBRANDING EFFORT, WHICH WAS OUR FULL INTENTION, UM, THERE ARE NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS TO IT. I, AND I'VE BROUGHT THOSE UP. BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR THAT, IT'S JUST BASICALLY A REBRANDING EFFORT OF THIS COMMITTEE'S TOGETHER TO HELP DEVELOP BUSINESS. YEAH. YEP. YEP. OKAY. SO WE WILL COME ON FEBRUARY 5TH WITH A DRAFT PRESS RELEASE. UH, AND WE WILL TAKE SOME ACTION ON THE NAME, UM, PUT THAT TO A VOTE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE BOARD, UH, A DRAFT PRESS RELEASE TO GET YOUR INPUT, BECAUSE I THINK IF ANYTHING, WE'VE GOTTA BE CONSISTENT. THE MESSAGE HAS TO BE CONSISTENT AND, UM, AND SYNC. SO. PERFECT. MM-HMM. . SO, AND WHILE I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY IN HERE THAT WE'RE A TEAM. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN HAVE DISAGREEMENTS IN HERE, BUT IN MY OPINION, TEAMS SUPPORT EACH OTHER OUT IN PUBLIC NO MATTER HOW. I'M JUST SAYING AS WE MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . SO YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY IF SOMEBODY QUESTIONS A DECISION WE MAKE AT SOME POINT WE, YOU CAN SAY, I DIDN'T, I VOTED IT DOWN, BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING. AND DON'T UNDERMINE THE DECISION THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CO THE BOARD, THE DEVELOPMENT BOARD MAKES. MM-HMM. . ANYWAY, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS THAT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN FRANK AND ROBERT ARE HOPEFULLY HERE? WE WILL HAVE TO, YES. OKAY. SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE THOUGHT. THAT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM ON FEBRUARY. DISCUSS THOSE COMMITTEE. I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD IN. RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE FOUR COMMITTEES. 5, 5, 5, 5. ASSET DEVELOPMENT WAS THE 15. OKAY. AND WE CAN FINE TUNE THOSE TITLES AND, AND, AND THAT. SO KIND OF GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT TOO BECAUSE THESE ARE JUST, THESE WERE THROWN OUT THERE TODAY SO WE CAN RIGHT. WE CAN MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND CHANGE SOME THINGS. I THINK THEY'RE IN A GOOD SPOT. BUT I AGREE IF YOU HAVE SECOND THOUGHTS ON IT, BRING IT UP TO THE NEXT ONE. GREAT. AND WE'LL SEE THIS IN TYPE I GUESS, AND CORRECT. OKAY. 'CAUSE ROBERT AND FRANK MAY HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT IT AS WELL. YES. MM-HMM. . ALRIGHT. SO, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY? I JUST WANNA THANK ALL THE BOARD. I THINK THIS WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION AND I THINK IT'S JUST THE NEXT STEP WE'RE TAKING. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT, ENTHUSIASM. I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT START IN MY OPINION. SO THANK YOU. I BE THE SCHOOL TEACHER FOR A SECOND. IF YOU HAVE NOT FILLED OUT YOUR ECONOMIC, UM, INTEREST, ECONOMIC, WHATEVER, HONOR DISCLOSURE, YES. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BY FEBRUARY 1ST, I BELIEVE. WHICH MEANS WE NEED THEM PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 1ST. UM, IF YOU HAVE NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT UP TO DATE ON YOUR FOIA TRAINING AND YOUR FOIA TRAINING, PLEASE BE [01:25:01] SURE AND DO THAT. I KNOW HILLARY HAS SENT OUT THOSE LINKS, BUT I'M CONFIDENT SHE'D BE HAPPY TO SEND THEM OUT AGAIN IF YOU NEED THAT. DOES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE ANNUALLY OR IS IT JUST ONE TIME? I BELIEVE THOSE TRAININGS ARE EVERY TWO YEARS. CORRECT. BUT THE ECONOMIC DISCLOSURE IS EVERY YEAR. EVERY YEAR. AND THAT'S JUST DOWNLOADABLE ONLINE. YES. YES. SO THERE, THERE'S A FILLABLE PDF, UM, THAT WE GOT VIA EMAIL YESTERDAY. TODAY. THEY CAN, THEY CAN EMAIL YOU THE ONE YOU FILLED OUT LAST YEAR TOO. MM-HMM. . OH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. CAN I ASK FOR THAT, HILLARY? SURE. THE ONE THAT I FILLED OUT AND TURNED IN BECAUSE I JUST DID IT. I THINK TINA WOULD HAVE THAT 90 DAYS AGO. YEAH. YEAH. TINA WOULD HAVE THAT. WE'LL GET IT FOR YOU. NO PROBLEM. HE DID TOO. YEAH, WE BOTH DID. YEAH. IT SHOULD LOOK REAL SIMILAR. YEAH. IT WOULD BE VERY NICE TO DO THAT. BUT I, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY ECHO JOE'S SENTIMENT. I'M, I'M SUPER EXCITED. THIS WAS A LOT OF PROGRESS IN 90 MINUTES. I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD BE PROUD AND I THINK YOU SHOULD EAT SOME LOW CAKES ON OUR SMALL BACK. I'VE HAD MY EYE ON THAT ONE FOR OVER AN HOUR. YEAH, YOU EARNED IT, GUYS EARNED IT. YEAH. BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL YOUR WORK THERE. AND WE'LL HAVE AN ASSET. DO YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE AN ASSET LIST BY FEBRUARY 5TH TOO? THAT I CAN'T GUARANTEE. OKAY. BUT WE'LL TRY TO START WORKING ON IT. WE ARE. IS THERE AN OLD ONE? IS THERE AN OLD ONE THAT EXISTS? THERE IS AN OLD ONE. YEAH. WE DO HAVE, I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE I WON'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN EXTENSIVE LIST ON FEBRUARY 5TH, BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU A DRAFT. WE DID SOMETHING. WE CAN GIVE YOU SOMETHING AND THAT'LL BE OUR GOAL. OKAY. OKAY. I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF LAUREN DOESN'T HAVE WELL I HAVE SOMETHING. I MEAN NICK, NICK HAS SOMETHING. YEAH, I HAVE SOMETHING THAT NICK GAVE ME. IT'S JUST OLDER. I HAVE SOMETHING IN, IN MY FOLDERS. I JUST DON'T BRING THEM 'CAUSE IT ENDS UP BEING TOO THICK. BUT, BUT ANYWAY, I HAVE THAT LIST. YEAH. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ALL FRONT ROYAL? NAH, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE JOINTLY OWNED STUFF. OKAY. YEAH. WELL I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THIS ONE. YEAH. AND I THINK TWO OF THOSE ARE OFF. THE TWO OF 'EM ARE OFF THE LIST. YEAH. HUH? WHICH TWO ARE OFF THE LIST? THE BALL DRIVE. I THINK THE ONE WAS LISTED AS THE, THE ICE. YEAH, THERE'S THE ICE CREAM FACILITY ON BALL AND, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE. I'LL JUST LOOK IT OVER. WELL, ANYWAY, THEY, THEY'LL, THEY'LL COME WITH IT NEXT MEETING, SO. YEAH, EXACTLY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU GUYS. THAT WAS AN AWESOME MEETING. YEAH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.