Jan 22, 2024 Town Council

WE'RE READY FOR OUR ROLL CALL.

YEAH, I KNOW I SAY THIS EVERY MONTH, BUT THAT REALLY IS MY FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING.

SO, UM, MS. PRESLEY,

[3. ROLL CALL ]

COUNCILMAN INGRAM? HERE.

COUNCILMAN MORRIS? HERE.

COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? HERE.

COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.

COUNCILMAN WILLIAM HERE.

FOUR IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

ITEM NUMBER

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR? I MOVE THAT.

COUNSEL, APPROVE THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 AND WORK SESSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 2ND AND JANUARY 8TH, 2024 AS PRESENTED.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION MS. PRESLEY? CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? VICE MAYOR LOC? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN

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D DEMON PAYNE? YES.

NEXT, UM, ITEM IS, ARE THERE ANY ADDITION OR DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA OR ANY REVISION TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS? UM, YOU CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION AND SEE MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD SUGGEST A REVISION TO THE CURRENT ORDER OF BUSINESS IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO OUR

[5. ADDITION/DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA OR REVISION TO ORDER OF BUSINESS ]

UM, I THINK MS. PRESLEY, MAYBE YOU CAN CONFIRM, BUT THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR.

SO PERHAPS IF WE COULD MOVE THOSE TO THE TOP OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THOSE APPLICANTS DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

MS. PRESLEY, WHICH ITEMS OR WHICH IT WOULD BE SEVEN C AND SEVEN D.

YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A SPECIFIC, UH, MOTION FOR THAT? I BELIEVE SO.

MR. UH, SONNET, DOES SHE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN FOR THE ORDER CHANGING THE ORDER BUSINESS? THAT'S CORRECT.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE REVISE THE ORDER OF BUSINESS IN REGARDS TO ITEM SEVEN C AND SEVEN D TO MAKE SEVEN C.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A AND SEVEN D, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I BELIEVE, UM, COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS MADE, MADE VERY CLEAR WHILE SHE WAS MAKING THAT SUGGESTION.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION.

MS. PRESLEY CAN, WHO WAS SECOND? I'M SORRY.

OH, MS. UH, VICE MAYOR LOC.

VICE MAYOR LOC? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS.

COUNCILWOMAN DEAMON PAYNE? YES.

SIX ON OUR AGENDA ARE RECOGNITIONS AWARDS, REPORTS, AND PRESENTATIONS.

SO WE WILL NOW, UM, HAVE, UH, THE REZONING REQUEST FOR SKYLINE REALTY INVESTMENTS AS SEVEN A AND THEN REZONING REQUESTS FROM COOK REALTY FOR SEVEN B AND OBVIOUSLY WELL MOVE THEM DOWN FROM THERE.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER

[6. RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/REPORTS/PRESENTATIONS ]

AND TONIGHT OUR FIRST ITEM, UM, OUR FIRST RECOGNITION IS, UH, THE RETIREMENT OF MAJOR JASON RYMAN.

SO, UM, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING FORWARD, YOU WOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS NOT IN THE UNIFORM, RIGHT? YES.

NO, I'M SURE YOU GETTING TO WEAR JEANS EVERY DAY WOULD BE SO EXCITING FOR ME TOO.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

SO I JUST WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, MAJOR RYMAN.

UH, HE STARTED WITH THE FRONT ROW PD IN MAY OF 2003, AND THEN, UH, ENDED WITH US ON JANUARY 1ST, 2024, UH, THREE YEARS PRIOR TO, SO THAT WAS 21 YEARS WITH THE FRONT ROW PD.

THREE YEARS PRIOR.

UM, HE WAS WITH THE STROUDSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THROUGH HIS, UH, CAREER IN THE FRONT ROW PD, HE STARTED OFF AS A POLICE OFFICER, THEN AN INVESTIGATOR, THEN CORPORAL, SERGEANT, UH, SERGEANT OF INVESTIGATIONS, AND THEN CAPTAIN, AND THEN MAJOR.

AND SO TONIGHT, UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAQUE FOR YOU, AND I'M GONNA READ THAT.

I JUST WANT, I'M GONNA SHARE IT TO EVERYBODY, BUT IT'S REALLY PRETTY.

I LOVE THOUGH.

UM, IT'S, WELL, YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU GET, BUT IT'S THIS, THIS IS JUST SO COOL.

MAJOR JASON ABRAM, AND IN RECOGNITION OF 21 YEARS OF LOYALTY, HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WELL DESERVED RETIREMENT WITH SINCERE GRATITUDE FROM FELLOW EMPLOYEES, TOWN MANAGER, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.

MAY 7TH, 2003 TO JANUARY 1ST, 2024.

YOUR LOYALTY AND LEADERSHIP WILL BE LONG REMEMBERED.

WE WISH YOU THE VERY BEST IN RETIREMENT.

SO WE'RE GONNA COME DOWN THERE.

SHOULD WE CENTER OURSELVES? NO, I KNOW.

WELL, LET'S THE HILLARY FIRST.

ALL 3, 2, 3.

BRENDA, YOU LIKE TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT.

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THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE, JASON.

THANKS, SIR.

SO NEXT UP IS SIX B AND CHIEF IS GONNA COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THE RECOGNITION, UH, PROMOTIONS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

CHIEF MCGILLIS, ARE YOU READY WITH ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR FINE FOLKS? YOU GOT AN OLD APARTMENT IN HERE.

I KNOW.

GOT A BUNCH OF THEM.

, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING.

UH, MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT ON THE STREET TO YOU GUYS.

UM, AND I DON'T WANT MAJOR RYMAN GETTING TOO BIG AHEAD THINKING THAT JUST BECAUSE HE'S LEAVING, IT'S GONNA TAKE ALL THESE PEOPLE TO REPLACE HIM.

, I MEAN, I LOVE YOU, .

SO, UH, FIRST OFF, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEWEST OFFICERS WHO COMPLETED THEIR, UH, BASIC TRAINING AND THEIR FIELD TRAINING LAST YEAR.

SO IF CASEY BURNER AND JARON MOORE COULD COME UP, BIG MAN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THIS IS CASEY BURNER.

HE STARTED WITH US AS, UH, COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, UH, AND HAS SERVED, UH, IN THAT CAPACITY.

AND LAST YEAR WE ENDED UP SENDING HIM, UH, TO THE BASIC LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY.

AND HE, UH, COMPLETED THAT AND HIS FTO AND IS NOW, UH, OUT ON THE STREET AND JARON MOORE.

UH, HE CAME IN, IT WAS ACTUALLY LAST YEAR BEFORE LA THE END OF YEAR BEFORE LAST JULY 22.

YEAH, WHEN HE CAME, CAME OUT OF, UM, THE POLICE ACADEMY, FINISHED UP HIS, HIS FIELD TRAINING AND, UH, HAS BEEN SERVING US FOR THE PAST, PAST YEAR AND A HALF NOW.

SO, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

UM, THESE GENTLEMEN, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE THAT'LL BE FOLLOWING THEM IN.

SHE'S STILL WORKING ON HER FTO, UH, TRAINING, FIELD TRAINING.

UM, AND WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE BRINGING HER IN FRONT OF YOU SO THAT WE CAN INTRODUCE HER TO YOU FOLKS AS WELL.

SO, UM, YOU GOT SOME FOLKS TO PIN YOUR BADGE ON? CASEY, YOU GOT NO BADGE TO KIDS? JUST GOT .

HE'S GOT THE LL CURVE FOR, HE JUST CAME OFF SHIP, SO, OKAY.

YOU BROUGHT HIM INTO THIS WALL.

YOU CAN TAKE, CAN TAKE 'EM OUT IF YOU NEED TO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU, THERE YOU GO.

AND JUST HOLD IT DOWN.

SO WE HAVE HAD SOME, SOME FOLKS LEAVING AS YOU, AS Y'ALL KNOW.

SO WE'RE, WE'VE HAD TO MOVE SOME FOLKS UP THE RANK.

UM, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CORPORALS THAT ARE, UH, JOINING THE RANKS TODAY.

WE'VE GOT, UH, CORPORAL BRADLEY PENNINGTON AND CORPORAL TYLER SMITH.

YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP? TYLER, AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S WORKING TONIGHT.

AND HE'S GOT THE, HE'S GOT THE, THE VELCRO BADGE GOING ON THIS EVENING.

UM, MS. BECCA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, DO THE HONORS ? VERY GOOD.

WELL DONE.

AND DON'T GO TOO FAR 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE YOU GUYS ALL LINE UP HERE TO TAKE A PICTURE AT THE END, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA LET 'EM GET AWAY.

NO.

SO, UH, WE'RE ALSO REPLACING TWO SERGEANTS.

SO IF I COULD HAVE, UH, SERGEANT KEVIN ORNDORFF AND SERGEANT MICHAEL GALLAGHER, PLEASE STEP UP.

UH, BOTH THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE BEEN SERVING IN THE, UH, IN THE ROLE OF CORPORAL, UH, FOR THE PAST, UH, YEAR AND A HALF, I GUESS.

UH, MICHAEL WAS IN, UH, INVESTIGATION, WAS IN INVESTIGATIONS, CAME OUT BACK OUT ONTO THE STREET AS A CORPORAL AND HAS NOW BEEN PROMOTED BACK TO CID AS A, AS THE SERGEANT IN CHARGE OF THAT UNIT.

AND CORPORAL KEVIN ORNDORFF WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT OF THE SAME SHIFT THAT HE WAS SERVING ON, UH, IN PATROL.

SO HIS GUYS WERE HAPPY TO KEEP HIM.

SO LADIES, WOULD YOU DO THE HONORS?

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THIS IS LIKE MORE PRESSURE THAN LIKE PINNING THE, UH, CORSAGE ON A PROM, ISN'T IT? I'M SORRY.

THAT PINS A LOT BIGGER THAN THE PRECISE PROM .

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, WE HAVE, UH, A NEW CAPTAIN THAT'S JOINED OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

SO, UH, CAPTAIN ZACH KING HAS, UH, SERVED, STARTED HIS CAREER WITH THE FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A POLICE OFFICER, UM, WAS PROMOTED TO CORPORAL A FEW YEARS BACK, UH, PROMOTED TO SERGEANT AND HE SERVED AS A SERGEANT ON BOTH PATROL AND IN INVESTIGATIONS.

AND, UH, NOW HE'S, HE'S STEPPED INTO THE CAPTAIN'S ROLE, UH, RUNNING THE LOGISTICS END OF THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, STAFF OF THE, OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'RE, WE CAN'T BE HAPPIER WITH THE SELECTION THAT WE'VE MADE.

SO, ZACH, JESS, STEADY HANDS, STEADY HAND.

THAT'S REALLY A LOT OF PRESSURE THERE.

, THANK Y'ALL FOR GIVING US A FEW MOMENTS TO, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, THIS EVENING.

WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

SO, AND THANK YOU FAMILY MEMBERS FOR, UH, SACRIFICING YOUR TIME WITH THESE, WITH THESE OFFICERS TO COME OUT AND DO THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

SO IF WE GET, CAN THEY JUST COME UP HERE SO WE CAN GET ONE BIG PICTURE THERE? ARE WE GONNA COME THERE? YEAH, WE'LL JUST STAND UP BEHIND YOU ALL THAT WILL MAKE YOUR LIVES LIVES MUCH EASIER.

THANK YOU ALL.

CASEY, DID YOU HAVE A SISTER NAMED BROOKE? DO.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

TO JOE? YEAH.

ARE, UM, GOING TO START OFF WITH, AND AGAIN, IT WAS SEVEN C, BUT IT'S NOW SEVEN A.

HEY, AS LONG AS WE GOT IT DONE RIGHT, I KNEW YOU WOULD.

[7.C. Rezoning Request from Skyline Realty Investments LLC to Rezone 29 W. Duck Street from C-1 to R-3 ]

THE REZONING REQUEST FROM SKYLINE REALTY INVESTMENTS LLC TO REZONE 29 WEST DUCK STREET FROM C ONE TO R THREE.

MS. PRESLEY, CAN YOU PLEASE READ, UH, THE SUMMARY? WAIT, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT MS. PRESLEY, I WAS, I'M, I'M GONNA READ MY COMMENTS PART FIRST AND THEN HAVE YOU READ THE SUMMARY.

BECAUSE IT'S THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE EASIER FOR, OKAY.

SO, UM, WE NOW COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, OR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO LEARN OF INFORMATION OF WHICH THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY AWARE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, THEN COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND INDICATE IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

IF THE COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, YOU MAY SIMPLY STATE THAT YOU AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.

THERE IS A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR SPEAKERS.

AFTER THREE MINUTES, THE MICROPHONE WILL CUT OFF.

PLEASE REMEMBER, YOU ARE TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND TO REFRAIN FROM WORDS OR STATEMENTS WHICH ARE DEFAMATORY TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS OR DISPLAY OTHER DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT INCLUDING OBSCENITY AND VULGARITY.

AND SO, UM, I, I ALREADY READ THE FIRST TITLE, MS. PRESLEY, YOU COULD READ THE SUMMARY FOR THAT ONE.

COUNSEL'S RECEIVED A REZONING REQUEST FROM SKYLINE REALTY INVESTMENTS TO REZONE 29 WEST DUCK STREET FROM C DASH ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT TO R THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REZONING STAFF NOTES THAT THE LOT SIZE IS UNABLE TO ACCOMMODATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

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UM, MS. PRESLEY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.

NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THIS MATTER? OKAY.

UM, THEN I GUESS, UM, I CAN, UH, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL .

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, TURN ON YOUR MIC.

OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, UH, IN FURTHERANCE OF THE PURPOSES AND OBJECTIVES CONTAINED IN TOWN CODE 1 75 DASH ONE B, I MOVE THAT COUNSEL, APPROVE THE REZONING REQUEST FROM SKYLINE REALTY INVESTMENTS LLC TO REZONE 29 WEST DUCK STREET TAX MAP NUMBER 20 A 12 DASH THREE DASH 25 AND 28 FROM C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT TO R THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND NOW WE'RE, UH, OPENING UP FOR DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SAY ANYTHING IN WITH REGARDS TO THIS, UM, APPLICATION? MADAM MAYOR? I WOULD JUST SAY I, I WENT OUT AND OBSERVED THE, UH, PROPERTY, UH, AND IT APPEARS TO ME, UH, THAT, UH, IT, IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION TO, TO MOVE ON THIS.

ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO THIS? NONE.

DID YOU, UH, NO.

I MEAN, I CAN KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SECTIONS OF THE TOWN THAT THE ZONING THAT CURRENTLY STOOD DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

I MEAN, THAT SECTION OF DUCK STREET IS A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, SO THIS JUST FALLS IN LINE WITH WHAT'S HISTORICALLY ALREADY THERE.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, MS. PRESLEY, I BELIEVE WE'RE READY FOR A ROLL CALL.

VICE MAYOR SEA LOCK? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YES.

COUNCILMAN D COUNCILWOMAN DEAMON PAYNE? YES.

UM, IS GOING TO BE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REZONING REQUESTS FROM COOK REALTY TO REZONE.

SO, NEXT,

[7.D. Rezoning Request from Cook Realty to Rezone 1121, 1125, 1135 John Marshall Hwy. from R-1 to C-1 ]

UH, 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 5.

1 1 3 5.

JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY FROM R ONE TO C ONE.

MS. PRESLEY, UH, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE SUMMARY? COUNSEL'S RECEIVED A RE A REZONING REQUEST FROM COOK REALTY LLC TO REZONE 11 21, 11 25, AND 1135.

JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR THIS AREA OF JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY TO BE ZONED MIXED USE.

THE INTENT IS FOR A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.

THIS REQUEST IS IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MS. PRESLEY, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.

WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.

SO NO ONE SIGNED UP.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS MATTER BEFORE COUNSEL? OKAY.

SINCE NO ONE IS, UH, WISHES TO SPEAK, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL IN FURTHERANCE OF THE PURPOSES AND OBJECTIVES CONTAINED IN TOWN CODE 1 75 DASH ONE BI MOVE THAT COUNSEL, APPROVE THE REZONING REQUEST FROM COOK REALTY LLC TO REZONE 11 21, 11 25, AND 1135.

JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY TAX MAP NUMBER 20 A 10 DASH THREE DASH EIGHT AND 20 A 10 DASH THREE DASH EIGHT A AND 20 A 10 DASH THREE DASH NINE A FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.

UM, WHEN THERE'S OVERFLOW PARKING OR, UM, MUSIC COMING FROM THE PAVILION OUTSIDE, UH, THERE IS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE MUSIC WITH CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, MS. PRESLEY, WE HAD TWO SECONDS, BUT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN DE DOGO PAYNE, I BELIEVE DID GET IT UNDER THE WIRE THERE.

SO, UM, , WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL.

FOR COUNCIL.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, MADAM MAYOR, I, I WOULD SPEAK TO THIS SIMPLY THAT, UM, IN VISITING THE AREA AND SPEAKING WITH CITIZENS IN THE AREA, THEY'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT, UH, MRS. COOK HAS DONE TO IMPROVE WHAT WAS A BLIGHTED AREA IN OUR TOWN.

UM, THEIR ONLY CONCERN AS AN EVENT CENTER, WHICH, UM, OF COURSE C3 ALLOWS, UM, IS THAT,

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AND IN SOME INSTANCES, THE MUSIC TO BE TOO LOUD.

THE OTHER COMPLAINT THAT I WITNESSED OR WAS TOLD OF WAS THE PARKING ON THE, UM, SURROUNDING STREETS AROUND THE PROPERTY AND THAT THERE WERE ISSUES AT TIME, PEOPLE PARKING BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS.

I KNOW THAT IT, UH, IT WAS A, UH, A COUPLE POLICE REPORTS PUT INTO THAT.

UM, I'M JUST EXPRESSING CITIZENS' CONCERNS WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK? UH, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS, UH, USED COMMERCIALLY, UH, WHEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE OLD MOTOR INN.

SO, UH, THIS WOULD JUST BE REALLY BRINGING IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT ESTABLISHMENT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MADAM MAYOR? UH, UM, MAY I ASK, UH, A QUESTION FOR STAFF? IF STAFF IS HERE TODAY? UH, YES.

UH, I GUESS THE, WE, WE KNOW THAT IT, THAT IT OR ORIGINALLY WAS ON, UH, SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTAL.

UH, IT'S AN R ONE WITH, WITH, UH, APPROVAL FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UH, MY QUESTION IS WITHIN THE, THE ZONING AND THE C ONE ZONING, DO, DO WE ALLOW FOR AN EVENT CENTER? WE DO NOT ALLOW FOR AN, SORRY, AN OUTDOOR RECREATION CENTER.

UM, WHAT WE ALLOW WOULD BE, UM, SORRY, WE DON'T ALLOW FOR THE INDOOR, WE ALLOW FOR THE OUTDOOR.

UM, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT A ZONING ORDINANCE, OR SORRY, AZO ZONING PERMIT, UM, AND START THAT PROCESS IF THIS REZONING WERE TO GO THROUGH.

SO DO WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR AN EVENT CENTER? NO, WE DO NOT.

UM, AS, UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD ALLUDED TO, DOES, UH, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE OUTDOOR? IF THERE'S GONNA BE OUTDOOR MUSIC? IS THERE GONNA BE OUTDOOR MUSIC? I, I MAY HAVE MISSED, MISSED THAT YOU HAVE A, WE HAVE AN A NOISE ORDINANCE WITHIN THE TOWN CODE, SO IT LIMITS THE DECIBEL RANGE.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THE LIMITATION STARTS AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

SO AS LONG AS THE NOISE DOES NOT EXCEED THAT RANGE AND IT'S BEFORE 10 O'CLOCK, UM, THERE'S, THAT'S NOT A ZONING VIOLATION.

THAT WOULD BE UP TO THEM TO CALL THE PD AND THE PD WOULD NEED TO CITE THEM IF IT'S AFTER 10:00 PM OKAY.

BUT WE HAVE NO, WE, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE A, A DECIMAL METER.

UH, TOWN DOES NOT HAVE A, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF METER, NO.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

SO, UM, AND WE'RE REGARD TO, UH, THE PARKING, UH, IS THERE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR AN, UH, A LARGE EVENT CENTER? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS I THINK 25 SPACES, AND THEY DID SUBMIT A LEASE AGREEMENT, BUT FOR TONIGHT, WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY FROM R ONE TO C ONE.

SO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE USE WILL BE THE NEXT STEP AND SHE'LL WORK THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THAT PORTION.

SO WOULD, WOULD THE FACT THAT, THAT, UH, THERE, THERE WAS LANGUAGE IN, IN THE, IN THE, UH, PACKET THAT SAID THE PRIMARY USE WAS GONNA BE FOR AN EVENT CENTER? UH, MY, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE, IT ABUTS R ONE PROPERTIES VERY CLOSE

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TO THE PROPERTIES.

MM-HMM.

AND THERE COULD BE SHIFT WORKERS WORKING IN THERE.

UH, I, I HAVE THE CONCERN FOR, YOU KNOW, LOUD MUSIC, UH, DURING, IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT IN VIOLATION OF OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, I DON'T HAVE ANY RECOURSE TO CITE HER FOR ANYTHING.

SHE'S NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE ZONING CODE.

BUT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE, WE DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITION FOR AN EVENT CENTER AND WE DON'T ALLOW C ONE AN EVENT CENTER IN C ONE ZONING.

HEY, ARE THERE QUESTION OTHER, UM, QUESTION, UH, CHIEF, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? IT UM, IT, IT BEGINS AT 10:00 PM CORRECT? RIGHT.

10:00 PM I'M JUST ASKING, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT A DECIBEL METER, BUT I MEAN, HAS THAT EVER, I MEAN, DO YOU ALL FEEL THAT YOU NEED LIKE A MACHINE TO LIKE TELL YOU THAT SOUNDS LOUD OR NOT? SO THERE ARE PARTS OF THE NOR NOISE ORDINANCE BEFORE 10:00 PM 10:00 PM IS, IS THE, UM, IT'S A MUCH LOWER EXPECTATION.

GEORGE.

UM, IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT WITH THE CODE, UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A, A CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE ORIGIN OF THE NOISE WHERE YOU, THAT'S SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, A REASONABLE, A REASONABLENESS STANDARD.

IT'S RIGHT.

IT'S BASED ON WHAT CAN BE HEARD ACROSS FROM A SPECIFIC DISTANCE.

DISTANCE.

THERE'S ALSO A DECIBEL STANDARD, RIGHT.

UH, THAT'S A SEPARATE PART OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

SO WE CURRENTLY CAN ONLY, WE COULD ONLY, UM, RESPOND TO THE, THE DISTANCE, BUT WE COULD NOT GET SPECIFIC WITH THAT.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SORT OF EVIDENCE IN COURT WITH THE DECIBEL.

I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK? I I, HOW ABOUT I JUST GO DOWN JUST TO MAKE SURE COUNCILWOMAN DE DOMINICA PAIN.

DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, PART OF DISCUSSION? I'M NOT GONNA GET HUNG UP ON THE, THE DECIBEL PART OTHER THAN I I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF THERE IS SOME WAY THAT THE, THE PD OR WHOEVER IS JUDGING THE DISTANCE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HELP THE APPLICANT, UM, KNOW WHAT THAT DISTANCE IS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEIR MUSIC CAN BE HEARD AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S OKAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, UP ON JAMESTOWN ROAD, IT WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S TANGIBLE.

'CAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A MACHINE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE NO WAY TO, TO JUDGE IT.

SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP THEM JUDGE THAT DISTANCE.

SO LIKE WHEN THE FOOTBALL GAME AT WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL CAN BE HEARD THROUGH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I'M PRETTY SURE NOBODY GOES THERE.

PARKING AVAILABLE THERE, I MEAN, 25 PARKING SPACES AT THIS VENUE IS MORE THAN THE PARKING SPACES ON MAIN STREET ALONE, WHICH HOUSES ALMOST ALL OF THE TOWNS COMMERCIAL, UM, SHOPPING CENTERS.

COUNCILMAN WOOD SPOKE VICE MAYORS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER? NO.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YEAH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THIS COUNCIL, FOR THE MOST PART, ALL I THINK IN LARGE PART WORKED ON THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'VE ADOPTED.

AND PRIOR TO ADOPTING THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE WISH AND DESIRE AND APPETITE OF COUNSEL WAS FOR THIS TO BE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT ABUTS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, BUT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT IS A MIXED USE AREA.

SO THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

UM, I TOO RECEIVED, UM, ONE SINGLE NOISE COMPLAINT FROM A RESIDENT, AND THAT WAS ALSO SUBMITTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS PRIOR TO THE NOISE VIOLATION TIME OF 10:00 PM I ALSO, UM, JUST RECEIVED A, UM, MESSAGE FROM A CONSTITUENT WHO IS VOLUNTEERING TO DONATE A DECIBEL READER.

THEY'RE $30 ONLINE FOR THE PD TO HAVE.

UM, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THIS COUNCIL, IN THIS DAIS, UM, WHEN IT WAS ZONED R ONE AND WAS USED AS UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THERE WERE MANY COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS.

THE APPLICANT'S NOW CONVERTING IT TO A COMMERCIAL ZONE, AND THERE ARE COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS.

AND THIS IS THE SAME COMMUNITY AND THE SAME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO CAME TOGETHER FOR REAL VITALIZE OR DIE.

AND THIS WAS A BLIGHTED PROPERTY FOR MY ENTIRE EXISTENCE.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GRATEFUL THAT IT'S NO LONGER A BLIGHTED PROPERTY.

UM, THE STREET PARKING ISSUE IS A NON-ISSUE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARKING FOR YEARS.

AND, UM, 25 PARKING SPACES IS AMPLE AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT FROM THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET.

AND STREET PARKING IS BY RIGHT? IT'S PUBLIC PARKING.

I MEAN, ANYBODY CAN PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ON THE STREET.

I CAN POLITELY ASK THEM TO MOVE, BUT I DON'T OWN THE STREET.

AND IF THERE'S

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SO TO HAVE 25 AT ONE VENUE, AND I THINK ABOUT 13 ON MAIN STREET WHERE ALL OF THIS COUNCIL MEETS AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SHOPS AND EATS.

SO I KNOW PEOPLE THAT GO TO MAIN STREET CAN'T FIND A PARKING SPACE.

SO THEY PARK IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN FRONT OF A HOUSE OR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR ANOTHER BUSINESS.

I THINK IT'S A NON-ISSUE.

AND, UM, THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO THAT IS WHAT I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS UP.

UM, COUNCILMAN INGRAM? I NO PRESSURE.

I'M JUST SAYING I GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE.

UH, NOTHING MORE TO ADD MADAM MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT, MS. PRESLEY.

UM, WE'RE READY FOR A ROLL CALL.

VICE MAYOR LOC? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YES.

COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT? NO.

COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.

NOW, UM, BECAUSE WE DID CHANGE OUR AGENDA.

AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO SEVEN, WHICH ACTUALLY IS SEVEN C

[7.A. Ordinance Text Amendment Request by Magdalen Capital, LLLP to Amend Zoning Ordinance Pertaining to Minimum Acreage Requirement for Planned Neighborhood Development District (PND]

UM, THE, UH, THIS IS FOR THE ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST BY MAGDALENE CAPITAL LLLP TO AMEND ZONING ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT FOR PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT P AND D.

MS. PRESLEY, CAN YOU READ THE SUMMARY? COUNCIL'S RECEIVED AN ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST FROM MAGDALENE CAPITAL LLLP TO AMEND THE TOWN'S CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY SECTIONS 1 75 DASH 37.3 C 1 75 DASH 37.4 A AND 1 75 DASH 37 DASH 17 A PERTAINING TO THE MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PLAN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR P AND D FROM THE EXISTING 20 AND 50 ACRE MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENTS TO A TWO ACRE MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A FIVE ACRE MINIMUM TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR DEVELOPMENT STAFF SPOKE WITH THE CONSULTANT WHO IS CURRENTLY REVISING THE TOWN'S ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE CONSULTANT AGREES THAT REDUCING THE ACREAGE REQUIREMENT WOULD PERMIT FLEXIBILITY AND ALLOW ADDITIONAL PARCELS WITHIN TOWN LIMITS TO APPLY FOR REZONING TO P AND D DISTRICTS.

THE P AND D DISTRICT CAN SUPPORT A WIDER VARIATION OF HOUSING AND POTENTIALLY PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.

THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ESPECIALLY THE CREATION OF NEW AND MORE ATTAINABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 72 PARCELS IN TOWN, WHICH ARE UNDEVELOPED AND LARGER THAN FIVE ACRES.

OF THOSE 37 ACRES ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH STAFF IS GONNA PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION JUST REMINDING EVERYONE, THIS IS ACTUALLY ABOUT A TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO, MS. KAKI, THANK YOU.

CAN YOU ADVANCE THE SLIDE PLEASE? CAN OH, GO BACK ONE.

THERE WE GO.

SO AS STATED, THIS REQUEST IS WAS SUBMITTED BY MAGDALENE CAPITAL ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023 TO AMEND SECTIONS 1 75 37 3 C 1 75, 37 4 A, AND 1 75 37 17 A OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THIS TAKES THE MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS FROM 20 ACRES FOR THE P AND D DISTRICT DOWN TO, UM, FIVE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD TWO WORK SESSIONS.

THE FIRST WORK SESSION WAS ON OCTOBER 4TH.

THE SECOND WAS ON NOVEMBER 1ST, AND THEIR PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON NOVEMBER 15TH.

UH, THEY, THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO, UM, THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FROM 20 ACRES TO FIVE.

UH, AND THEN THE TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION WAS HELD ON JANUARY 2ND.

CAN YOU PLEASE ADVANCE THE SLIDE? OKAY.

SO THE PND UM, SECTION OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 2005.

UM, 1 75, 31 0.1 OUTLINES THE INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT.

AND IT'S BASICALLY, UM, SO THAT LARGE, UH, TRACKS OF LAND CAN ACCOMMODATE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.

UM, OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION AND IF APPROPRIATE, MIXED USE.

UM, AND THEN CAN YOU NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OR THE USES TOGETHER, AND THEN YOU IN THEORY HAVE LESS, UM, COSTS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOWER LINEAR FEET OF STREETS AND UTILITY LINES AS OPPOSED TO RECAL LINEAR OR CURVE LINEAR, UM, SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH IS YOUR TYPICAL STANDARD SUBDIVISION IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR PROVISIONS OF CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH OUR CODE DOESN'T HAVE WITHOUT THE P AND D ZONE.

AND WHAT THE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS IS ON THE SAME PARCEL OF PROPERTY, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU GROUP THE HOMES TOGETHER

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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO FOR OUR PND DISTRICT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, A SECTION.

SO 37.3 OUTLINES THE PERMITTED USES.

SO A P AND D ZONE SHALL, WHICH MEANS IT IS REQUIRED, UM, ALLOW THE FOLLOWING RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO THAT'S DETACHED.

SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS, YOUR TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNITS, MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS AND TOWNHOUSES.

EACH CLUSTER OF TOWN HOMES IS PERMITTED TO HAVE UP TO EIGHT TOWN HOMES.

UM, WE ALSO ALLOW FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS AND ACCESSORY USES, INCLUDING THE RECREATION OR PARK FACILITIES, WHICH MEETS THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONE.

AND THEN RETIREMENT LIVING FACILITIES, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THAT THE ZONE PERMITS.

UM, THE RETIREMENT IS JUST YOUR TYPICAL 55 AND UP COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES BY RIGHT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, IN OUR CURRENT ZONE, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT IF THERE ARE 50 OR MORE ACRES THAT YOU CAN THEN START TO BRING IN THE COMMERCIAL USES.

SO WITH, AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS BE TAKEN DOWN TO TWO.

AGAIN, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED FIVE, BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU GET YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

SO THESE ARE YOUR SMALL MARKETS, YOUR PERSONAL SERVICES, UM, A SMALL RESTAURANT, UM, OFFICE SPACE, UM, AND BANK BRANCHES, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, THOSE ARE PERMITTED IF THERE ARE, IF THE LOT SIZE IS LARGER.

AND THEN WE HAVE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER SEPARATE PROCESS FOR THE P AND D ZONE.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE POTENTIALLY ALLOWED BED AND BREAKFAST.

UM, THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES OR FUEL FACILITIES, GAS STATIONS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT IS WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THAT IS A SEPARATE PROCESS ON TOP OF THE REZONING.

AND COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THESE USES THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROHIBITED USES IN THE P AND D.

SO THESE ARE YOUR JUNKYARDS, YOUR OFFSITE SIGNAGE USED, AUTOMOBILE, TRUCK TRAILER SALES, MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOMES, OUTDOOR STORAGE YARDS.

AND ANY TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL USE IS PROHIBITED IN THE P AND D DISTRICT.

AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE ALSO HAS AN EXCLUDED USES SECTION, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT IF IT IS NOT LISTED AS PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED.

UM, AND THAT, THAT WOULD, ANY USE THAT IS NOT PERMITTED WOULD CONSUL CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 72 UNDEVELOPED PARCELS IN TOWN LIMITS THAT ARE FIVE ACRES OR LARGER.

38 OF THOSE 72 ARE LARGER THAN 10 ACRES.

AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO VACANT PARCELS THAT ARE ZONED P AND D.

WE DO HAVE ONE PARCEL THAT IS ZONED P AND D.

IT IS NOT CONSIDERED VACANT BECAUSE THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON IT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

IS THAT THE ONE THAT, IS IT 50 THAT HAS A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE? UM, IT WOULD BE THE SWAN FARM PROPERTY HEPT HABITAT.

SO IT'S, UM, ROUGHLY 90 ACRES TOTAL.

THEN YOU GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, WHICH IS ALSO A PUBLIC PROCESS THAT ALSO GOES THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL.

SO HEPT HABITAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED P AND D? YES.

THAT IS THE ONLY P AND D ZONE PARCEL IN TOWN RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE A P AND D REZONING, UM, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE TOWN CODE.

SO THAT'S SECTION 37.2 AND THEN 37, UH, 0.5 THROUGH 18.

SO 37.2 GIVES COUNSEL BASICALLY LIKE A, A CHECKLIST OR A GUIDE.

THESE A THROUGH I CRITERIA ARE THE CRITERIA THAT YOU WOULD USE TO DETERMINE IF A PND REZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR A PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN FIVE THROUGH 18 KIND OF OUTLINE THE ADDITIONAL STEPS.

SORRY, THIS MAY BE HARD TO SEE.

SO THE FIRST STEP FOR P AND D REZONING WOULD BE THE REZONING APPLICATION.

THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO SUBMIT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, A CONCEPT PLAN, A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, AND A STATEMENT OF CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT GOES THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL, THEY WOULD THEN NEED TO SUBMIT A MASTER LAND USE PLAN THAT ALSO GETS REVIEWED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONVEY OPEN SPACE.

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AND THEN THERE'S AN APPEARANCE REVIEW BY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO IN ALL, YOU WOULD HAVE APPROXIMATELY, OR A MINIMUM OF SEVEN WORK SESSIONS AND SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS PRIOR TO, UH, THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF A ZONING OR BUILDING PERMIT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO BASICALLY TONIGHT WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT A TEXT AMENDMENT.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT ANY PARTICULAR REZONING APPLICATION.

UM, ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT DOES WISH TO GET REZONED TO P AND D NEEDS TO MEET THAT FIRST, THAT MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT, UM, BUT ALSO WOULD NEED TO START THE PROCESS.

UM, THERE ARE NO DEFAULT P AND D ZONED PARCELS IN TOWN.

ANYTHING THAT GETS ANNEXED IN, UM, STARTS OUT AS AGRICULTURE ZONED A ONE.

UM, AND THE REST OF THE, THE PARCELS WOULD AGAIN, NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND NOT EVERY PARCEL OF LAND IS GONNA BE SUITABLE FOR A P AND D REZONE REGARDLESS OF THE ACREAGE.

AND THAT'S IT.

WHAT TIME IS THAT? THE APPROPRIATENESS? YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED DURING THE SITE PLAN.

PROCESS.

AND THAT'S WHERE TOWN, COUNTY, AND STATE WOULD REVIEW THE PLAN.

MM-HMM.

, ARE ALL THESE LANDS APPROPRIATE FOR DEVELOPMENT? THE VACANT ONES? CURRENTLY WITHOUT AN APPLICATION OR A SITE PLAN? I CAN'T TELL THAT I CAN, UM, LET, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

SOME OF THE LAND IN FLOODPLAIN OR THE TRAIN WOULD NOT, THE TERRAIN WOULD NOT BE, UH, CONDUCIVE TO IT.

IF IT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN, IN THE FLOODWAY, UM, THEY WOULD NEED TO BUILD, UH, AT LEAST ONE FOOT ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION THAT WOULD INCREASE COSTS ON DEVELOPING THE SITE.

AND WE DO HAVE IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE STEEP SLOPE PROVISIONS, WHICH COULD ALSO PREVENT DEVELOPMENT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MANY PROPERTIES ARE POSSIBLY LIKE 13 ACRES OR LARGER? I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A SPREADSHEET, UM, BUT I CHECKED AT THE 10 LEVEL AND THAT WAS 38.

MS. KISH, WE MAY ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES TOO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO AT THIS TIME, UM, THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO, UM, I, UH, WE WERE GONNA GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.

I BELIEVE THEY WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING.

GRADUATE AND COME BACK? HOW DO, HOW DO WE CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO WORK AND LIVE HERE? THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UM, MY NAME'S JOHN FIERO.

I LIVE IN THE COUNTY OFF STOKES AIRPORT ROAD.

UH, ALEX AND I ARE PARTNERS AT, UH, MAGDALENE CAPITAL.

AND THIS EVENING HE HAS A COUPLE SLIDES THAT HE'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH TO KIND OF JUST GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ON WHAT LAUREN, UM, JUST PRESENTED.

UH, JUST TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE CURRENT P AND D SITUATION.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW, JUST A FEW BRIEF MINUTES TO FILL YOU IN.

I DON'T, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS INCLUDED IN THE MASSIVE PACKET OF INFORMATION WE SENT YOU, BUT I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO DIGEST.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND, UM, UH, WHAT WE REPRESENT.

SO I'M, I MOVED HERE ABOUT 18 YEARS AGO.

MY FAMILY AND I, WELL AT THE TIME, MY WIFE AND I, AND, UM, WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS AREA AND WE'VE DECIDED TO MAKE IT OUR HOME.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE PLANT, WE'VE PLANTED ROOTS AND WHERE WE WANT TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN AND HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE GENERATIONS OF, OF OUR FAMILY.

AND I, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THE SAME I CAN BE SAID FOR ALEX AS WELL.

WE ARE, WE BOTH LOVE THIS, UH, THIS TOWN AND THIS COUNTY.

AND, UM, I'M, I'M EXCITED TONIGHT BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BUZZ GOING ON AROUND THIS.

UM, FORTUNATELY WE WERE MADE AWARE OF IT.

WE, WE WEREN'T REALLY EVEN AWARE THAT IT WAS A, AN ISSUE.

UM, BUT WE WERE MADE AWARE OF IT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

SO WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND WHAT'S EXCITING IS, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT IS, IS ALL KIND OF SEEKING THE SAME, THE SAME, UM, THE SAME THINGS.

UH, WE ALL VERY MUCH WANNA PROTECT THIS TOWN.

UH, SO I JUST WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAGDALENE CAPITAL 'CAUSE IT'S JUST INTERESTING LITTLE TIDBITS THEY MIGHT, UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH YOU.

SO WE, WE WERE ACTUALLY ON MAIN STREET.

THERE WERE A FEW OF US THAT GOT STARTED WITH THIS.

AND, UM, WE WERE BASICALLY BREAKING BREAD AND, AND SHARING AND DRINK OVER.

HOW DO, HOW DO WE CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CHILDREN TO STAY HERE, UH, WHEN OUR KIDS

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WE WANT OUR KIDS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY HERE IF THEY CHOOSE TO.

WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO GO TO OTHER, OTHER PLACES FOR, FOR WORK AND FOR HOMES.

SO WE ALL KIND OF START TALKING ABOUT THAT.

THIS WAS RIGHT AROUND THE TIME OF LIKE THE REVITALIZER DIE MOVEMENT, WHICH WE'RE, YOU KNOW, VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

IT WAS DROVE A LOT OF THE PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH WE WERE FOUNDED AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH AND, AND, AND, UH, ACHIEVE MOVING FORWARD.

UM, BUT THE MAIN THING WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATING JOB OPPORTUNITIES.

I'M A BUSINESS OWNER IN TOWN.

UH, ALEX IS A BUSINESS OWNER IN TOWN.

WE EMPLOY ABOUT 30 PEOPLE HERE.

AND WE'RE GROWING, UH, GROWING BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE GROWING BUSINESSES HERE.

AND WE'RE ALL KIND OF, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET TOGETHER AT EVENTS AND WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE ALL, MANY TIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THIS QUESTION OF HOW, HOW DO WE MAKE FRONT ROYAL ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR YOUNG, FOR YOUNG FOLKS AND ALSO FOR OUR TEACHERS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MIDDLE CLASS WHO, WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE TRYING TO STAY HERE, LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, PLAY HERE.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY PRINCIPLES THAT WE WERE, THAT WE WERE FOUNDED ON.

UM, WE, WE WANT, WE'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT THAT BRINGS REVENUE BACK TO THE TOWN.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THE BIG THINGS.

OF COURSE, COMING OFF OF RECENT EVENTS AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACING AS A COMMUNITY WITH THIS HUGE DEFICIT IN THE LOSS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN RECENT YEARS, HOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THIS? WELL, WE NEED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TOWN AS WELL AS WHAT'S BEST FOR, FOR US.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEST FOR THOSE BUILDING AND THE PROFIT THAT CAN BE MADE.

THE FIRST CONSIDERATION HAS TO BE, IS THIS GONNA BE GOOD FOR THE TOWN LONG TERM? SO THAT WAS A, IT'S A NUMBER ONE DRIVING FACTOR OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH.

UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO THINGS, OF COURSE, THE HOME, HOME BUILDING THAT'S AFFORDABLE, UH, WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER DENSITY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T RIGHT NOW.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR, UH, A SMALL BUILDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE LAND NECESSARY TO BUILD A MULTIFAMILY OR CONDO STRUCTURE.

ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LIKE, LESS, LESS PRICED, UH, REAL ESTATE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW IS TRUE, AND I'VE, AND I'VE TALKED WITH SOME FOLKS, THEY'RE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE, THAT ARE GONNA COME OUT TONIGHT TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.

WE AGREE THAT, THAT THE YOUNG, THE YOUNG FOLKS HERE, THE HUMAN CAPITAL THAT WE HAVE HERE IN FRONT ROYAL IS, IT'S TOO, IT'S TOO PRECIOUS TO LOSE.

WE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HAVE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE GOING, HAVING TO GO TO WINCHESTER AND OTHER TOWNS TO FIND HOUSING BECAUSE THESE FOLKS ARE SMART.

LIKE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE STARTING BUSINESSES, THEY'RE SMART AND THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO RENT FOREVER.

THEY WANT TO CREATE WEALTH AND THEY WANNA HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION TO PROVIDE THAT.

UM, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF BIG THINGS.

AND, AND, UH, SO ALEX IS GONNA GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF JUST THE P AND D, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE WANT.

WE, WE WANT, UM, WE WANT TO OPEN THE DOORS FOR SMALLER LOCAL DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AND, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THE LARGER NATIONAL BUILDERS COMING IN AND PLOPPING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOMES HERE AND TURNING US INTO SOMETHING LIKE, UH, MIDDLETOWN OR ONE OF THESE OTHER AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THEY'RE NOT SITE, THEY'RE NOT SIGHTLY, THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DESTROY, UM, THE, THE, THE CHARM THAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC DRAIN, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE VERY MUCH, UH, IN LINE WITH MOST OF THE FOLKS HERE TONIGHT IN THAT REGARD.

WE, WE SHARE THAT.

AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT THOUGH IS A SOLUTION RATHER THAN JUST CONSTANTLY FIGHTING AGAINST THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WITHSTAND A NUMBER OF THOSE RECENTLY, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

SO UNLESS WE LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR THE SMALL GUY TO COME IN AND BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING GREAT, I THINK THAT WE'RE JUST SORT OF SEALING OUR FATE, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

YOU GUYS HAVE A DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE TONIGHT.

UM, BUT WE ENTRUST YOU WITH IT.

WE KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS TOWN.

YOU, YOU, THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE RUN ON.

IT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO DO.

YOU'RE SERVING THIS COMMUNITY TO DO THAT.

SO WE TRUST YOUR DECISION.

UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF BUZZ THIS CAUSE BECAUSE IT MEANS PEOPLE CARE AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, SO MS. ALEX IS GONNA SHARE SOME INFORMATION.

ALEX'S GONNA SHARE A, A FEW SLIDES.

SO, ALEX, BE READY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UM, SO YEAH, KIND OF THE CORE INTENTION, I WON'T READ THAT OFF YOU FOLKS AND READ YOURSELF, BUT THE, THE CORE INTENTION, LIKE JOHN ECHOED THERE IS A GAPING HOLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, YEAH, THANK YOU COUNCIL.

UH, UM, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE OF MINE, IF YOU GOOD.

UH, GREAT.

SO, UM, JUST A COUPLE VERY QUICK LITTLE THINGS.

UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT VERY SHORT AND SWEET FROM A FACTUAL BASIS.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE REQUESTING THE ND TEXT AMENDMENT.

JOHN TOLD YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OURSELVES.

UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF REITERATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTENTION, THE RESEARCH AND THE IMPACT.

TRY TO SUMMARIZE THIS AS BEST I COULD FOR YOU FOLKS.

UH, UH, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME.

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UH, IF YOU LOOK AND READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A SECTION THAT I PULLED FROM IT LATER ON IN ONE OF THE OTHER SLIDES.

UH, THERE IS A GAPING HOLE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING CALLED FOR IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WHICH IS NEO-TRADITIONAL OR OTHER MIXED USE TYPE DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, AS WELL AS ALSO HAVING MORE LIKE AFFORDABLE BASED HOUSING FOR, UH, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER LIKE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING OR FOR GENERAL WORKING CLASS FOLKS.

UH, THERE'S NOT REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE KIND OF IN THE GRAY OUT AREAS, UH, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE PRETTY MUCH POSSIBLE IS YOU CAN GO TO, UH, LARGER SCALE OR YOU CAN GO TO DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY.

SO OBVIOUSLY LARGER SCALE, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE BIG DEVELOPERS COME IN.

UH, WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA HAVE THAT HERE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF LEFT WITH IS THE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

UH, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF ALL THERE.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, UH, THINGS THERE IN THE MIDDLE, SUCH AS THE, UH, MULTIPLEXES, DUPLEXES, FOURPLEXES COURTYARDS, COTTAGES AS YOU CAN SEE THERE.

SO IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THERE FOR ME.

UH, SO THIS IS WHERE WE SAY, UH, SEGMENTATION VERSUS INTEGRATION.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE MOST OF THOSE PARCELS THAT WOULD BE IN QUESTION.

I'VE LOOKED AT THEM, I'VE CONSIDERED THEM.

AS FAR AS FROM A BUILDING PERSPECTIVE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF 'EM FALL UNDER WHAT WE WOULD CALL LIKE A DEFAULT OR BY RIGHT ZONING, UH, WHICH ARE MORE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES LIKE YOU SEE ON THERE.

UH, THEY WOULD BE MORE TRACK STYLE HOUSES MOST OF THE TIME.

THEY'RE OFTEN BUILT IN TRACK STYLE TO KEEP THAT EFFICIENCY RATE, UH, TO MAKE THEM AT LEAST SOMEWHAT ATTAINABLE.

UH, OBVIOUSLY OBTAINABLE IS BECOMING A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR BUILDING, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY DEMAND FACTOR WE FACED IN RECENT YEARS.

UM, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH, UH, WITH THE CURRENT PATH AND TRAJECTORY, UH, BY, RIGHT ON A LOT OF THESE ZONING PROPERTIES.

UH, WHAT IS POSSIBLE WITH P AND D, UH, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE A DOWNTOWN OR MAIN STREET, WHICH IS THOSE MIXED USE WHERE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CAN COEXIST AND THEY'RE DONE IN A METHODICAL PASSION, UH, FASHION, UH, THAT MAKES SURE THAT THEY'RE WELL INTEGRATED WITH THE, UH, THE TOWN AND ITS TRA UH, TRAJECTORY AND THEIR, THE VISION.

UH, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO I DIDN'T JUST PULL OUT TWO ACRES OUTTA MY HAT WHEN I SUBMITTED THAT TO ALL FOLKS.

UH, SO I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH, READ A LOT OF ZONING.

UH, AS FAR AS FOR THEIR TAX AMENDMENTS, MOST OF THE TOWNS AROUND HERE, UH, EVEN IN WELL, UH, WELL-PRESERVED AREAS SUCH AS COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG, UH, THEY ONLY HAVE A THREE ACRE MINIMUM WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR VERSION OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH EVEN HISTORICAL AREAS THAT ARE VERY, VERY WELL PRESERVED.

AND AS I SAID, WILLIAMSBURG, THE REASON I USE THAT TOWN OF FAIR ROYAL HAS ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE GIVE OR TAKE.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 16,000 PEOPLE FOR WILLIAMSBURG.

SO I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPARABLE, IT HAS A LOT OF HISTORICAL ELEMENTS, UH, THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO USE THAT.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN THE, UH, LOWER RIGHT HAND SECTION, IT'S ONLY 2.5 ACRES, UH, ON AVERAGE FOR THIS SMALL SAMPLING.

SO, AND THIS OBVIOUSLY CAN BE MUCH FURTHER EXPANDED.

UH, IF YOU WANNA GO NEXT SLIDE FOR ME.

UM, YEAH, SO RESEARCH, A LOT OF THIS WAS ALREADY GONNA REITERATE, SO I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE AGAIN, UH, BUT JUST WANTED TO SAY EXCLUDED.

IT'S NOT ESPECIALLY, UH, DEEMED IN THERE, UH, CAN'T BUILD IT, YOU KNOW, JUST OUT OF WHIMSICAL.

UH, IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE CODE SO IT IS EXCLUDED AND WE GOTTA MAKE SURE IT'S ENHANCING THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE.

SO, UH, WE'RE NOT, CAN'T, CAN'T JUST TAKE P AND D, BUILD A BUNCH OF UGLY BUILDINGS AND YOU ALL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.

SO, UH, THERE IS AN APPROVAL PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THINGS WELL, UH, AND KEEP GOING.

UM, SAME THING PERMITTED USES.

JUST WANNA REITERATE GOING INTO THAT.

UH, SO I'LL SKIP SINCE, UH, THAT WAS ALREADY COVERED.

UH, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF JUST SUM UP THE IMPACT OF THIS.

UH, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST MINIMAL IMPACT THAT I COULD COME UP WITH.

AS I SAID, I'VE READ, UM, WELL OVER 30 DIFFERENT ZONING ORDINANCES FOR DIFFERENT TOWNS, UH, COUNTIES.

UH, SO I VERY CAREFULLY CONSIDER THIS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MINIMAL TAX AMENDMENTS.

SO THERE'S NO DIRECT IMPACT WHEN IT COMES TO BUY RIGHT OR DEFAULT TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, UH, IN THE TOWN THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.

SO ALL THOSE PLAN, ALL THOSE, UH, CURRENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE MENTIONED, UH, BY LAUREN, UH, THEY'LL STILL REMAIN EXACTLY AS THEY ARE ZONED TOMORROW, EVEN IF YOU PASS IT, UH, UH, THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO THERE'S A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS.

ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT.

I PROBABLY, UH, SUBMITTED A THOUSAND PLUS PAGES OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, MAKING SURE THAT TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE WELL ACCOUNTED FOR, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ARCHITECTURAL LAYOUT REVIEWS, UH, VERY, VERY WELL HAVING TO BE THOUGHT OUT THERE.

SO THE FRAMEWORK IS STILL DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, UH, THAT REMAINS THE SAME.

THERE'S NO CHANGES THERE.

AND THEN, UH, ANCHORAGE REQUIREMENTS, AGAIN, BRINGING, UH, STANDARDS WITH A LOT OF OTHER PLACES, INCLUDING, UH, COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG.

AND THEN AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE GAPING HOLE, UH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THIS IS FROM THE HAPPY CREEK SECTION, SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT,

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ENCOURAGE AND PROMOTE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NEOTRADITIONAL PRACTICES, UH, LOW IMPACT AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

THERE IS NO GOOD BEST PRACTICES IN IT'S CURRENT, UH, WITH A LOT OF THE CURRENT ZONING THAT ARE THERE.

SO IF YOU'RE USING LIKE RS OR R ONE, UH, THOSE AGAIN ARE JUST SINGLE TO PATCH FAMILIES.

UH, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE EFFICIENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF REITERATE THAT PART.

THAT, UH, GET EFFICIENCY RATE, YOU HAVE TO GET, UH, MORE COMPACT DENSITY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO FINALIZE HERE THAT NOT APPROVING THIS, UH, WILL SOLIDIFY THE DEFAULT PATH THE TOWN IS MOVING TOWARDS, WHICH IS SUBURBANIZATION OF HOUSING AND SUBURBAN GENTRIFICATION.

UH, SO THOSE ARE JUST THE CURRENT PATH THAT IT'S GOING BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NO OTHER OPTION, UH, THAT I'VE SEEN, UH, AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THERE AND, UH, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, ALEX.

OKAY, I AM GOING TO, UM, SORRY GUYS.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MS. PRESLEY.

UM, I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

DO YOU WANNA JUST START FROM THE TOP? SURE.

WE HAVE 10 SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS MEGAN MARRAZZO.

HI, MY NAME IS MEGAN MORSO.

I LIVE AT 3 1 6 VIRGINIA AVENUE, WHICH IS HERE IN TOWN.

UM, FIRST WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, GO INTO THE REST OF WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR THE RECORD ON SOMETHING.

I, AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, I SPOKE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING BACK IN NOVEMBER, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THE SUGGESTION FOR FIVE ACRES DID NOT COME FROM ME.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE WHO WAS LISTENING COULD HAVE MADE THAT CONCLUSION.

THIS BEING SAID, THERE IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, WHICH CAUSES ME GREAT CONCERN THERE.

THE EFFECT OF THIS CHANGE WILL HAVE A, A DRASTIC IMPACT ON FRONT ROYAL.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS, LIKE I SAID, IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS IN OTHER TOWNS.

I'VE SEEN THIS IN MY OWN HISTORY IN, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUILDING TOWN HOMES AND THE LIKE, AND WHAT THAT DOES TO A COMMUNITY.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT THIS WON'T CHANGE THINGS.

AND THE IDEA THAT THE LARGER DEVELOPERS WON'T COME IN IS ALSO NOT, NOT REALISTIC ULTIMATELY, IF WE'RE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

BUT AS FOR THIS PROCESS ITSELF, IT IS IMPROPER AT BEST FOR SOMEBODY TO ADVISE THEMSELVES.

IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO SITS ON TWO PLACES CASTING TWO VOTES IN EVERY OTHER SITUATION.

IT IS NOT OKAY FOR SOMEBODY TO CAST TWO VOTES.

AND IT, THE ORDINANCE OF THIS AMENDMENT WILL DAMAGE THE TOWN.

AND HAVING ONE PERSON VOTING TWICE ON THIS ISSUE IS DAMAGING TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO POLITELY REQUEST THAT GLEN WOULD RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THIS VOTE AS HE HAS ALREADY CAST IT BACK IN THE PLANNING COMM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

I HEARD ABOUT THIS FROM HIM WHEN HE WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHEN I MET HIM AT THE FESTIVAL OF LEAVES BACK IN OCTOBER.

THIS WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME, UH, IN CONVERSATION OF WHAT WAS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.

SO THIS WAS PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN TO BE ELECTED.

AND THEN HE'S SITTING ON BOTH SIDES MAKING THE VOTE.

UM, I WANT THE BEST FOR THIS TOWN.

I LIVE HERE.

I LOVE IT.

AND I THINK THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE NEED TO HAVE THE INTEGRITY THAT IS PRESENT.

WHEN I SAW HIM IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I ASSUMED THAT MEANT THAT HE WAS JUST STILL WAITING FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL SEATS TO BE MADE AVAILABLE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND , I'M GONNA, UM, SO THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

YES, MA'AM.

AND I UNDERSTAND.

AND, UM, UH, SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE TOPIC.

AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I'LL ADDRESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT GO AHEAD.

NO, I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS VERY DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THE PLANNING, UH, TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

WHEN I HEAR SOMETHING BEING PART OF SOMEONE'S CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND THEY VOTE OR POTENTIALLY VOTING TWICE ON IT, I THINK THAT'S A VERY APPLICABLE SITUATION.

UM, I EVEN APPLIED FOR THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION MYSELF, ASSUMING THAT THAT SEAT WOULD BECOME OPEN.

BUT IN SEEING THAT IT IS NOT, I THINK THAT THERE IS JUST SOMETHING, UH, VERY IMPROPER ABOUT HOW THIS WHOLE THING CAME DONE.

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IT HAS, YES.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. SONNET.

I CAN CONTINUE.

I, I I CAN CONTINUE.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD THIS BE AN, AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK TO, UH, THAT OR WOULD YOU RATHER ME WAIT UNTIL LATER? JUST, IT WOULD BE NOT APPROPRIATE.

TO RESPOND TO THE VARIOUS SPEAKERS.

I UNDERSTAND.

SHOULD'VE HAD YOU SPEAK TO IT BEFORE, BUT GO AHEAD.

OF COURSE, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE FREE TO SPEAK, UM, RIGHT.

DURING THE DISCUSSION OR, GOTCHA.

WHO ARE LOOKING TO GROW OUR COMMUNITY IN A HEALTHY WAY, WHICH DOESN'T INHIBIT OUR LOCAL VALUES AND WAYS OF LIFE.

OTHER POINTS DURING TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I JUST DIDN'T WANNA, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT LEGALITY AND STUFF.

SO, ALL RIGHT, MS. PRESLEY, WE, YOU CAN BE UP WITH THE NEXT QUESTION.

MELANIE SALAN.

HI, MELANIE SALAN NINE FIVE MURRAY DRIVE.

UM, I'VE HEARD THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT PRESENTED.

I'M SORRY, YOU'RE NOT A COUNTY.

UH, NO, I'M A COUNT.

I'M A COUNTY RESIDENT, BUT THIS WILL AFFECT ALL OF US.

UM, SO I'VE HEARD THE WAY THIS THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND THE WAY IT'S BEING SOLD TO YOU SOUNDS GREAT.

UM, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK DEEPER AND YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR RESEARCH.

I WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOME FACTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SHARED WITH YOU.

FRONT ROYAL HAS NEVER HAD A P AND D DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMPLETED BEFORE.

FRONT ROYAL, AS STATED, HAS ONE PROPERTY'S OWN P AND D, AND THAT IS HEPT A I DON'T THINK I NEED TO REMIND ANY OF YOU RIGHT NOW HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN.

CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING 72 HEPT TABS ON YOUR HANDS? YOU SEE P AND D ZONING DESIGNATIONS HAND OVER THE POWER TO THE DEVELOPER AS HETA IS YOUR EXAMPLE.

YOU CAN THINK YOU ARE APPROVING ONE SITE PLAN AND THEN HAVE THEM CHANGE THEIR MINDS TIME AND TIME AGAIN FOR DECADES.

IT ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO HOLD THE LOCALITY HOSTAGE, AND AS YOU'VE SEEN, OPENS THE DOORS FOR LAWSUITS.

WHILE YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THAT SIMILAR CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE IN OTHER NEARBY TOWNS, WHAT I HAVE NEVER HEARD PRESENTED ARE THE PAGES AND PAGES OF PROTECTIONS THAT THESE OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE IN PLACE.

TO GO ALONG WITH THOSE LOWER RESTRICTIONS, OUR P AND D CODE REQUIRES OPEN A OPEN RECREATION SPACE, BUT YOU HAVE NOT COPIED LEES BURG'S REQUIREMENT TO ENSURE THE TAXPAYER ISN'T THE ONE STUCK FOOTING THE BILL FOR MAINTAINING THOSE SPACES.

AGAIN, REFERENCE HEP HABITAT.

OUR CODE BANS USE CARD LOTS AND JUNKYARDS, BUT FAILS TO DO MUCH MORE.

WE MAY WANNA COPY SOME OF THEIR CODE THAT DEFINES EXPECTATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND PLACES SPECIFIC BANDS ON SPECIFIC ITEMS AS THEY'VE DONE WITH THE CARS AND THE JUNKYARDS.

YOU WANNA COPY THEIR ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS, BUT NOT THEIR WAY OF ENSURING DEVELOPERS ARE HELD TO HONORING THEIR COMMITMENTS MADE TO THE COMMUNITY SITE HEPT HABITAT, NOT THEIR REQUIREMENTS TO LIMIT TRAFFIC CONGE CONGESTION, NOT THEIR REQUIREMENTS TO PRE TO PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS.

I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT IT'S THREE MINUTES THAT I HAVE.

LEESBURG OPENED THE FLOODGATES FOR DEVELOPMENT AND LEARNED THEIR LESSONS.

THE HARD WAY THAT IS NOT DRAMATIC AS I'VE BEEN CALLED, THAT IS A HISTORICAL FACT.

WE SHOULD LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES AND NOT REPEAT THEM.

DOES A SEATBELT OR A HELMET PROTECT YOU IF YOU PUT IT ON AFTER THE CRASH? OF COURSE NOT.

SAFETY PRO PROTECTIONS MUST BE PUT IN PLACE FOR THIS COMMUNITY BEFORE YOU TAKE THIS RISK.

AN ACREAGE REDUCTION TO P AND D CODE WITHOUT FIRST PUTTING PROTECTIONS IN PLACE IS UNWISE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DISASTROUS.

YOU WILL CREATE THE NEXT LOUDOUN COUNTY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ARE CODE CHANGES THAT ALLOW FOR STRUCTURED VARIANCE CODE TO PROMOTE REVITALIZATION AND PRESERVE THE SMALL TOWN CHARM AND CHARACTER WHILE MAKING COMMUNITY NEEDED PROJECTS MORE ACHIEVABLE FOR LOCAL SMALL DEVELOPERS.

SPOT ZONING HAS BEEN USED AS THE EXCUSE AGAINST THIS, BUT I WOULD URGE YOU TO READ SPOT ZONING CASE LAW.

IF A REZONING IS DONE SOLELY TO SERVE THE PRIVATE INTERESTS OF A LANDOWNER, THIS IS AN ABUSE OF LEGISLATIVE POWER AND WOULD BE ILLEGAL SPOT ZONING.

BUT IF THE REZONING IS DONE WITH THE CLEARLY DEFINED PURPOSE, TO FURTHER THANK YOU, MIKE SALAN, MIKE OWENS 95 MES DRIVE.

UH, YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN UNELECTED POSITIONS OF POWER APPEARING TO OPERATE UNDER SELF-INTEREST AND NOT UNDER THE INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE DO NOT WANT 15 MINUTE CITIES.

WE DON'T WANT EXISTENTIAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY FROM NOVA DEVELOPERS.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF LOCAL DEVELOPERS

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WE DO NOT WANT DATA CENTERS DESTROYING OUR RESOURCES, CREATING EYESORE.

SOME DATA CENTERS CAN EVEN QUALIFY TO BE BUILT UNDER COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, NOT INDUSTRIAL.

SO WITHOUT A P AND D CODE THAT SPECIFICALLY BANS DATA CENTERS, WE COULD BE STUCK WITH ONE.

THE FACT THAT THESE TYPES OF CHANGES TO THE COMMUNITY CAN BE PROPOSED THROUGH A PLANNING COMMISSION, ONE IN WHICH A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER IS ALSO ON AND THEN PUT FORTH TO THE BOARD WITHOUT A COMMUNITY TOWN HALL IS JUST RIDICULOUS WHEN THESE PROJECTS ARE BEING PROPOSED.

THERE DON'T SEEM TO BE ANY CONS TO THE PROPOSAL.

UH, IF THIS KIND OF ATTENTION AND FORETHOUGHT WE'RE GETTING ON THE PROJECT, UH, IF THIS IS THE KIND OF ATTENTION AND FORETHOUGHT WE'RE GETTING ON THE PROJECT, THEN IT APPEARS WE HAVE SOME INCOMPETENCE AT HAND.

IT'S EITHER INCOMPETENCE OR CORRUPTION.

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WITH ENOUGH POWER TO PUSH AND AUTHORIZE THIS TYPE OF CHANGE HAS GOTTEN TO THEIR POSITION WITH INCOMPETENCE.

I SHOULD BE HOME WITH MY FAMILY, BUT INSTEAD I'M WASTING TIME HERE FIGHTING SO THAT OUR YOUTH CAN ENJOY FRONT ROYAL THE WAY WE ALL HAVE GROWN TO LOVE IT, TO KEEP IT FROM BEING THE NEXT DISGRACEFUL LOUDOUN COUNTY.

IF THE EDA SCANDAL TAUGHT US NOTHING ELSE, IT SHOULD SERVE AS PROOF TO QUESTION EVERYTHING THAT IS PRESENTED TO A BOARD.

IT FEDERAL SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT DEAL AT THAT TIME TOO, AND THAT HASN'T BEEN AN EASY ONE TO FIX.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, MS. PRESLEY.

IT'S THE NEXT PERSON.

MATTHEW PURDY.

PURDY.

WE DID, BUT OURS IS BROKEN.

SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE.

HEY GUYS.

MATTHEW PURDY LIVE HIGH NOOB 1 38, TURN TRAIL COURT.

UH, SO NOT IN TOWN, RIGHT? JUST SO YOU GET THAT DETAIL DOWN.

UH, HOW YOU GUYS DOING? I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED FOR OUR TOWN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IF, UH, THIS UNNECESSARY RISK GOES THROUGH, WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH A LOT OF PROBLEMS. UM, I WORK FOR BREITBART NEWS, SO I COVER A LOT OF THE TRANSFORMATIONS OF TOWNS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND, UH, I GET TO SEE THE NUMBERS FOR MYSELF.

YOU LOOK AT OHIO RIGHT NOW AND HALF A MILLION ACRES ARE OWNED BY FOREIGN INVESTORS.

HALF A MILLION ACRES IN OHIO.

IF YOU DO, YOU TAKE A RISK LIKE THIS AND YOU OPEN THESE FLOODGATES, YOU'RE TAKING A VERY UNNECESSARY RISK.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T JUST MAKE THESE PROPOSALS ON A PER PROJECT BASIS, GO OVER EACH PROJECT ONE AT A TIME, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TOWN, WEIGH IN ON IT.

IT'S A MUCH SAFER DEAL WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IN THE FALL, I MEAN, YOU EVER TRY DRIVING AROUND TOWN IN THE FALL? IT'S LIKE .

IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I MEAN, I JUST MOVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND ED, IT WAS LIKE PRETTY WILD.

BUT, UH, THE TRAFFIC, YEAH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT, UM, IT WAS ABOUT 10 PEOPLE A DAY BEING RESURRECTED WITH NARCAN BY POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS COUNTY.

AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN WHEN WE OPEN THE FLOODGATES AND ALLOW ALL THESE MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN AT THIS RATE? SO MY, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU GUYS IS YOU ALLOW FOR THINGS TO BE DONE ON A PER PROJECT BASIS.

THIS PROPOSAL IS AN UNNECESSARY RISK.

LET'S TAKE IT ONE STEP, ONE PROJECT AT A TIME.

AND, UM, YEAH, IF, IF THEIR CONCERN IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT NATIONAL BUILDERS TO COME IN AS WELL, WHY NOT DO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANKS GUYS.

AND DO AS OTHER TOWNS SUCH AS LEESBURG AND SURROUNDING LOCALITIES HAVE DONE LOWER THESE TENFOLD FROM 50 TO FIVE, INCREASE THE LOTS FROM SIX TO ABOUT 72, BRINGING IN THESE, YOU KNOW, INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND NEW AMENITIES.

AIDEN MILLER.

AIDEN AIDEN'S, A ID, RIGHT? UH, AIDEN MILLER, SIX 30 BELLER AVENUE.

I AM A TOWN RESIDENT.

UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, THERE'S AN OLD THOUGHT EXPERIMENT FROM A BRITISH WRITER, GK CHESTERTON, ABOUT A FENCE.

UM, IT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

UH, THERE EXISTS IN SUCH A CASE, A CERTAIN INSTITUTION OR LAW, LET US SAY FOR THE SAKE OF SIMPLICITY, OFFENSE OR A GATE ERECTED ACROSS A ROAD.

THE MORE MODERN TYPE OF REFORMER GOES GALY UP TO IT AND SAYS, I DON'T SEE THE USE OF THIS.

LET US CLEAR IT AWAY TO WHICH THE MORE INTELLIGENT TYPE OF REFORMER WOULD DO WELL TO ANSWER.

IF YOU DON'T SEE THE USE OF IT, I CERTAINLY WON'T LET YOU CLEAR IT AWAY.

GO AWAY AND THINK.

THEN WHEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND TELL ME THAT YOU DO SEE THE USE OF IT, I MAY ALLOW YOU TO DESTROY IT.

IN MY OPINION, THE CURRENT, UH, P AND D ZONING RULES FROM 2005 ARE MUCH LIKE THIS PROVERBIAL OFFENSE.

UM, YOU KNOW, MANY WILL SAY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE POINT OF THESE LAWS NOW IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NEED TO INCREASE OUR FLEXIBILITY.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SO 50 ACRE LOTS THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED IN THE TOWN.

UM, WE SHOULD GET WITH THE TIMES

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UM, AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AFTERMATH OF PLACES THAT HAVE DONE THIS, OVERDEVELOPMENT RUNS RAMPANT AND ALL THE PROTECTIVE RULES COME IN A LITTLE TOO LATE.

UH, WHEN LOUDOUN COUNTY STARTED KNOCKING DOWN THEIR FENCE, THIS PROVERBIAL FENCE, NOT SEEING THE NEED FOR IT, UNDERTAKING SIMILAR EFFORTS TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH IN THE NINETIES, ITS POPULATION DOUBLED WITHIN A FEW YEARS AND THEIR TAXES QUADRUPLED IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME.

LENIENT ZONING PRACTICES MAKE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PAY THE COST WHEN THEY FRONT LOAD, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN LOUDOUN.

AS A RESULT OF THIS DOUBLING OF POPULATION, THE STRAIN ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ALONE LED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF 23 NEW SCHOOLS COSTING $600 MILLION IN NINETIES MONEY.

AND, UH, ATTEMPTING TO HIRE 300 NEW TEACHERS A YEAR OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

THIS IS IN PART BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES END UP COSTING MORE MONEY THAN THEY BRING IN IN TAX REVENUE.

STUDIES HAVE SHOWN FOR EVERY DOLLAR IT COSTS $1 55 CENTS IN ROAD SEWERS AND, UH, AND SCHOOL INFRASTRUCTURE.

THESE LAWS CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN PART TO PREVENT OUT OF CONTROL GROWTH, UNDERSTANDING WHY THESE LAWS EXISTS, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN, HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP WITH, YOU KNOW, SMART GROWTH.

I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO AMEND THE CODE, WE SHOULD DO IT IN A WAY THAT HAS COMMON SENSE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE.

CHANGING THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR VARIANCE WOULD DO THIS.

UM, ALLOWING PROJECTS THAT WILL BE BENEFIT OUR GREAT TOWN, RATHER THAN CREATING A FREE FOR ALL SCENARIO.

UM, THIS VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW BETTER PROTECTION FOR RESIDENTS AND CREATE A PATH FOR SMART GROWTH VARIANCE IN VIRGINIA DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY LEAD TO SPOT ZONING.

THERE'S A LOT, THEY'RE VERY STRICT IN VIRGINIA.

UM, REASONABLE DEVIATION FROM PROVISIONS, REGULATING SHAPE, SIZE, OR AREA OF A LOT SIZE, HEIGHT, AREA, BULK OR LOCATION OF A BUILDING.

AND THEY MUST NOT BE CONTRARY TO THE, UH, PURPOSE OF THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

AIDEN.

I FEEL LIKE YOU PRACTICED JUST 'CAUSE YOU WERE RIGHT DOWN TO THE THREE MINUTES.

YOU MUST, YOU MUST HAVE DONE FORENSICS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I DID.

I SORT, I THINK YOU HAD IT RIGHT DOWN.

CAMERON WILLIAMS .

UH, CAMERON WILLIAMS, 1 1 1 7 KESSLER ROAD.

UH, I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR BY NOW THAT WE HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GENERATIONAL RESIDENTS OF FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY, OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST MOVED HERE.

UM, YET THEY ALL LOVE THIS TOWN.

UH, NOT BECAUSE IT'S SOME SORT OF THRIVING METROPOLIS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SMALL TOWN WITH A CHARM UNLIKE ANY OTHER.

THIS PROPOSAL SEEKS TO CHANGE THE FUNDAMENTAL IDENTITY OF FRONT ROYAL.

IT SEEKS TO THROW OUT THAT CHARM AND TRANSFORM THIS BEAUTIFUL SMALL TOWN INTO A SUBURBAN BEDROOM COMMUNITY THAT CATERS TO THE INTERESTS OF ONLY A VERY FEW.

IF THERE'S A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO SAYS THEY WANT FRONT ROYAL TO BECOME THE NEXT MANASAS OR LEESBURG OR WINCHESTER, THEY'RE EITHER CLUELESS, THEY OR THEY'RE MALICIOUS.

MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN WARREN COUNTY FOR OVER SEVEN GENERATIONS, AND THE IDEA THAT I MAY BE THE LAST GENERATION TO SEE THIS GORGEOUS TOWN FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS, FRIGHTENS ME THE IDEA THAT MY CHILDREN WILL BE DEPRIVED OF THE TOWN, MY GRANDFATHER, AND MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER WORKED SO HARD TO PRESERVE IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING.

I HOPE, I PRAY THAT THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A BUNCH OF GOOD OLD BOYS OPPOSING ANY LITTLE CHANGE.

THIS IS THE RESIDENCE OF FRONT ROYAL GENERATIONAL AND NEW PLEADING WITH YOU, BEGGING YOU TO NOT LOUD IN OUR VALLEY.

PLEASE DON'T LOUD.

IN OUR VALLEY, WE SAW HOW THAT TURNED OUT.

FRONT ROYAL IS AT A POINT WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE PROUD OF OUR LITTLE TOWN.

WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE STAY HERE TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.

WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE FINALLY SPEAKING HIGHLY OF THIS GEM WE HAVE IN THE ANO VALLEY.

DO WE REALLY WANT TO SQUANDER THIS FOR SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND SHOPPING CLAUSES? THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENCY WANTS.

IF YOU WANT OUR VOTES, IF YOU WANT YOUR SEATS VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.

A SMALL BUSINESS IN TOWN, AND WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN TOWN.

THANK YOU, MS. PRESLEY, LUKE MILLER.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL.

UH, MY NAME'S LUKE MILLEN.

I LIVE UP IN THE SHORES, SO NOT IN TOWN, BUT I DO, UH, OWN

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UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT, UM, A LOT LIKE MY, THE PEOPLE WE HEARD BEFORE ME, UH, THE, THE YOUTH OF FRONT ROYAL.

UM, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM TWO FOLKS THAT MENTIONED THEY WANTED TO SEE THEIR YOUTH GROW UP IN FRONT ROYAL, AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM, BUT I THINK THE YOUTH OF FRONT ROYAL WOULD HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME AT AFFORDING HOUSING.

RIGHT NOW, STARTER HOMES ARE NORTH OF $400,000, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR , OUR OUR MEDIAN INCOME IS VERY LOW.

IT'S VERY HARD TO ATTAIN THAT 30 TO 40% OF MEDIAN INCOME TO AFFORD HOUSING.

AND SO I, I GUESS I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SMART GROWTH.

YOU KNOW, I, I LOVE THIS AREA AS MUCH AS, UM, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME, UM, BUT I'M ALSO HERE REALIZING THAT THERE'S A NEED.

UM, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE FACEBOOK GROUP THAT WE'RE PROBABLY ALL A PART OF.

AND EVERY OTHER POST IS SOMEONE SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE TO RENT AND SAY, AND A HUNDRED COMMENTS BELOW IT SAYING, GOOD LUCK.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE TYPE OF DENSITY THAT, UH, WE NEED.

WE NEED AFFORDABLE DENSITY IN THIS AND THIS AMENDMENT, THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, AND IT'S JUST A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S ALL THAT WE'RE ASKING TO PRESENT.

AND SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROJECT IN MIND FOR THIS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF HAVING A PROJECT IN MIND FOR THIS, BUT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL GIVE PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO SHOW WHAT'S POSSIBLE, SHOW WHAT'S POSSIBLE WITH SMART DEVELOPMENT, SMART GROWTH, AND THERE IS GUARDRAILS IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

SO, UM, I ASK FOR, UH, YOUR SUPPORT IN, IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SMART GROWTH.

AND THANK YOU, MS. PRESLEY.

BEN FERRY, ALL GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS BEN FERRY, UH, 300 SKY MEADOW LANE.

I'M A COUNTY RESIDENT, AUTO TOWN RESIDENT.

UM, I RECOGNIZE THIS TOPIC IS, UH, SIGNIFICANT CONCERN TO MANY OF US.

UM, I SUPPORT THE CHANGE, AND I'M FULLY AWARE, UH, THAT THIS IS A SENSITIVE ISSUE.

AND MY INTENTION IS NOT TO PROVOKE CONTROVERSY, UH, BUT OFFER A PERSPECTIVE BASED ON FACTS AND A SHARED DESIRE FOR WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M A BUSINESS OWNER, A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER.

I HAVE AN OFFICE HERE IN TOWN.

UM, UH, LET'S SEE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE PRO PROPOSAL TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT IS NOT A CATALYST FOR MAJOR UNCHECKED DEVELOPMENT.

RATHER, IT IS A MEASURED ADJUSTMENT IN LINE WITH WHAT MANY SURROUNDING TOWNS AND SMALL CITIES HAVE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED.

LIKE ALEX, UH, HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT SEEN AN ONSLAUGHT OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPERS, BUT INSTEAD HAVE BENEFITED FROM THOUGHTFUL, LOCALLY DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT THAT RESPECTS THE ESSENCE OF SMALL TOWN LIVING.

UH, THE CONCERN ABOUT ATTRACTING LARGE SCALE DEVELOPERS LIKE RYAN HOMES, UH, AND NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THAT ARE, UH, IN RISK OF COOKIE CUTTER DEVELOPMENTS, UH, IS DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDABLE.

NONE OF US WANT THAT.

UM, HOWEVER, IT'S CRUCIAL TO NOTE THAT THESE LARGE DEVELOPERS TYPICALLY FOCUS ON LARGE SUBURBAN LARGE PARCEL DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, NOT SMALL TOWN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT ALIGNS, UH, MORE WITH THE INTERESTS OF LOCAL BUILDERS AND SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE INVESTED IN THE CHARACTER AND HISTORY OF OUR TOWN.

UM, BY CONSIDERING THIS ADJUSTMENT, WE ARE NOT REALLY INVITING RAMPANT DEVELOPMENT.

INSTEAD, WE ARE CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOUGHTFUL COMMUNITY-CENTRIC GROWTH.

UH, THIS IS ALL ABOUT ALLOWING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN SCALE WITH OUR TOWN'S CHARACTER, NOT ABOUT CHANGING THE CHARACTER ITSELF.

UH, IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT, REGARDLESS OF SCALE, INTEGRATES UH, SEAMLESSLY INTO OUR COMMUNITY'S FABRIC.

I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE ROLE OF OUR CURRENT ZONING LAWS AND DESIGN GUIDELINES.

THESE REGULATIONS ARE OUR BEST TOOLS TO ENSURE, UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT MAINTAINS THE AESTHETIC AND HISTORICAL INTEGRITY THAT DEFINES OUR TOWN.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE RE RELINQUISHING CONTROL OVER, UH, OUR TOWN.

UH, WE ARE SIMPLY ALLOWING FOR A BROADER RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES UNDER STRICT GUIDELINES.

UH, IT'S NOT A STEP TOWARDS URBANIZATION, BUT A STEP TOWARDS FLEXIBLE, RESPONSIVE GROWTH.

UM, IT'S ABOUT MAKING ROOM FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST RIGHT THERE.

UM, I'M IN REAL ESTATE.

I KNOW THAT.

UH, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TREPIDATION THAT COMES WITH CHANGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO A PLACE THAT WE CALL HOME.

BUT THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT ABOUT ERADICATING WHAT WE CHERISH ABOUT OUR TOWN.

IT'S ABOUT PRESERVING AND ENHANCING, UH, SUSTAINABLE CONTROLLED MANNER.

UM, SO I ENCOURAGE, I CAN ENCOURAGE THIS CHANGE.

I DON'T, I THINK, WELL, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE ZONING LAWS ARE ALREADY, UH, PUT UP GUARDRAILS FOR, UM, FOR GROWTH.

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I ALSO WANT TO JUST QUICK SHOUT OUT TO THE PLANNING STAFF, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.

I THINK THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB, JOB ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THOMAS HEN.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

SO WE WERE JUST TOLD THAT THIS IS JUST A TEXT.

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, NAME, NAME, ADDRESS, OH, SORRY.

THOMAS HENNE, FIVE 10 EAST STONEWALL, UH, IN TOWN.

TOWN.

UM, SO WE WERE JUST TOLD THAT THIS IS SIMPLY A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT IS REALLY, UH, A, AN OFFENSIVE THING TO HEAR BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A TEXT AMENDMENT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD RADICALLY CHANGE THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH OF THIS TOWN IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

THERE IS A SOLUTION, THOUGH, THAT WHEREIN EVERYONE CAN WIN.

I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT LOCAL, SMALL DEVELOPERS AND CREATIVE AND IMAGINATIVE DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT BEING SAID, THIS PROPOSAL WILL OPEN UP THE FLOODGATES.

THE IDEA THAT, UH, LARGE DEVELOPERS DON'T DO THIS KIND OF THING IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.

I WORKED FOR A VERY LARGE DEVELOPER AND DID THIS KIND OF THING ALL THE TIME, LIKE A NATIONAL DEVELOPER.

SO THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT ARE JUST, JUST FLAT OUT WRONG, MAYBE THEY, THEY ARE MISINFORMED, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

BUT THERE IS A SOLUTION HERE.

PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO SAY THAT SPOT ZONING IS WHAT WE WOULD BE UP AGAINST IF WE TRIED TO, UH, GIVE A VARIANCE CHANGE.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BECAUSE IF IT IS DONE FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT FOR THE, UH, GOOD OF A PRIVATE COMPANY, IT IS NOT SPOT ZONING.

AND THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WOULD BE USED BY, UH, UH, A COMPANY TO DEVELOP A LOCAL COMPANY, HOPEFULLY OF, OF, OF SMALL COMPANY.

SO I THINK THAT THIS, THIS PLAN OF A, A ENTIRE, UH, CODE CHANGE IS JUST LUDICROUS, BUT WE CAN HAVE A CHANGE IN THE VARIANCE, AND THAT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN.

SO THE PRESERVATIONISTS WIN AND, UH, THE DEVELOPERS WIN MAGDALENE.

AND, AND TO BE VERY CLEAR, UM, THIS HAS, THE PEOPLE SPEAKING HERE, I DON'T THINK HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH MAGDALENE CAPITAL AND THEIR PROJECT, RIGHT? THAT IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUE FROM A CODE CHANGE.

WHAT THE CONCERN IS THAT YOU CAN JUST BASICALLY HAVE THESE RE ZONES AND THAT'S NOT, NOT A GOOD THING.

THE, UH, WAY THAT IT WOULD WORK WITH, UH, WITH, UH, VARIANCE IS BASICALLY, I THINK IT WOULD GO TO, UH, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED, AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION TOWN COUNCIL, AND IT WOULD WORK GREAT, RIGHT? AND THEN THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD VOTE ON IT.

UH, MAYBE CURRENTLY THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THIS FIX, BUT IT COULD EASILY BE A COUPLE WORDS OVER HERE.

CHANGE A COUPLE WORDS OVER HERE.

BAAB BINGING BA A BOOM.

WE'VE GOT A SOLUTION FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I JUST ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO HEEDED THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO KEEP THINGS LOCAL, SMALL DEVELOPERS, AND WE WANNA WIN-WIN.

WE WANT PRESERVATIONISTS TO WIN.

WE WANT TO KEEP THE, UH, CHARACTERS, SMALL TOWN CHARM OF THE AREA, BUT WE ALSO WANT OUR SMALL DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO THRIVE.

BUT ONE THING I WILL ADD, NO, UNDER ANY CIRCUM CIRCUMSTANCES, SHOULD THERE BE AGRICULTURAL REZONED IN TOWN TO, TO HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, THAT IF THAT IS SOME, AND THAT IS A ACTUAL SOMETHING THAT COULD, WOULD BE ON THE TABLE IF THIS HAPPENED, A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AGRICULTURAL WOULD BE UP FOR, UH, P AND D.

AND THAT IS JUST NOT A GOOD IDEA, IN MY OPINION.

UH, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, MRS. PRESLEY.

DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON SIGNED? OUR LAST SPEAKER THAT SIGNED UP IS RICK NOVAK.

RICK, WHEN DID MY TIME START? .

HI, I'M RICK NOVAK.

UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

I OWN ADDRESS TOWN.

UH, LIVING HERE AND SERVING ON VARIOUS COMMITTEES.

I OWN TWO BUSINESSES IN TOWN.

UH, THE THEATER AT ONE 17 EAST MAIN STREET, THE BOWLING CENTER AT FOUR 30 REMOUNT ROAD.

I OWN SEVERAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN TOWN, UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES.

UH, I'VE SERVED AND VOLUNTEERED ON VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

UH, I MOVED HERE IN 1990.

MADAM MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS.

I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE TONIGHT 'CAUSE WE LOVE FRONT ROYAL.

I THINK WE, WE CAN AGREE ON THAT AND, AND SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, BUT I HOPE TO OFFER SOME PERSPECTIVE, MAN.

IT CAN'T BE, KEEP GOING.

KEEP GOING.

, YOU DONE? YOU GOT AN EXTRA 15 SECONDS.

KEEP GOING.

I HOPE TO OFFER SOME PERSPECTIVES ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT BEING CONSIDERED HERE TONIGHT, BASED ON MY 34 PLUS YEARS, I MOVED HERE WHEN I WAS, UH, 27,

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I I CAME HERE AND I STARTED VOLUNTEERING, VOLUNTEERED FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, VOLUNTEERED FOR THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTION COMMITTEE, WARREN COUNTY STRATEGIC PLANNING PARTNERSHIP.

I I WAS A MEMBER OF THE EDA BEFORE THE SCANDAL.

UH, THE YEARS WERE 1994 THROUGH 2007, IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, IS CURIOUS.

UH, AND FINALLY I PARTICIPATED IN MANY, UH, PLANNING CHARETTES.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT NAME MEANT WHEN I FIRST WENT, BUT NOW I DO.

AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY A FOCUS GROUP.

ANYWAY, THIS STACK OF STUDIES REPRESENTS A LITTLE BIT OF THE STUFF THAT I PARTICIPATED IN.

AND I JUST BROUGHT IT TO ILLUSTRATE, UM, MY POINTS.

IN EVERY FOCUS GROUP THAT I PARTICIPATED IN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW, THERE WERE TWO LEADING ISSUES.

THE FIRST AND MOST FREQUENT THING THAT FOLKS SAY IS THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE, WE ENJOY HERE IN FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY.

I AGREE AND HAVE STATED THAT MYSELF IN THOSE GROUPS, WHAT FOLKS DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IS EVENTUALLY PROPERTIES GET DEVELOPED BY RIGHT, WHICH IS NOT INNOVATIVE AT ALL.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

BUT OUR OPPORTUNITIES COME ALONG THAT LEND THEMSELVES TO HIGHER USE FOR PROPERTY.

TONIGHT'S AMENDMENT IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

THE SECOND THING THAT IS SAID IS THAT WE NEED HOUSING.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY MEETINGS I'VE SAT IN AND WE'RE LIKE, WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR TEACHERS AND, AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO FITS IN THAT AREA.

SO LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE.

THE CODE IN QUESTION IS 19 YEARS OLD AND IT NEEDS A REVISION.

BUT THIS IS A SIMPLE TEXT AMENDMENT TONIGHT FOR PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT, REDUCING IT FROM 50 OR 20 ACRES DOWN TO POTENTIALLY TWO.

UH, LAUREN, UH, COMISH KAKIS OFFERED UP FIVE AS HER RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T THINK MOST OF US HAD CELL PHONES WHEN THIS CODE WAS WRITTEN.

SO THINK ABOUT THAT.

HOW MUCH THE WORLD'S CHANGED.

I HOPE THAT'S NOT ME.

SO, LET'S SUPO UNFORTUNATELY IS, BUT IT'S 20 SECONDS.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO LET'S SUPPORT THE LOCAL DEVELOPERS WITH VISION.

WHAT I SEE HERE TONIGHT AND READ ONLINE IS PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID OF CHANGE.

PEOPLE THAT MOVED HERE LIKE ME 34 YEARS AGO, THAT NOW THINK FRONT ROYAL IS PERFECT JUST THE WAY IT IS.

THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT CHANGE OF SOME SORT IS COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE.

COUNSEL, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS SIMPLE TEXT CHANGE AMENDMENT.

YOU RAN FOR OFFICE, HOPEFULLY TO LEAD.

AND I'M ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAD, MAKE SMART DECISIONS FOR OUR TOWN.

OF COURSE, YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT REMEMBER THAT A FEW PEOPLE CALLING YOU DO NOT REPRESENT THE 15,000 OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT HERE IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

BE VISIONARY, HAVE COURAGE.

DON'T BE AFRAID.

I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO TO THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT PEOPLE KEEP SAYING IT'S JUST A TINY TEXT CHANGE.

TAKE, TAKE YOUR, TAKE YOUR VISUAL AIDS .

THANKS RICK.

AND, AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.

THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE, UH, MS. PRESLEY.

NOBODY ELSE HAS SIGNED UP.

NO ONE ELSE.

BUT I HAVE THOUGHTS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD STILL LIKE TO SPEAK.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND, UM, THIS YOUNG LADY, SHE ACTUALLY HAD HER HAND UP FIRST.

SO GO AHEAD.

YOU WERE, YOU WERE QUICK ON THE DRAW.

WE'LL JUST GO ACROSS THE ROOM AND I SAID YOUNG LADY, BUT IT'S MARIA, RIGHT? YEAH.

MY NAME IS MARIA O'BRIEN.

I LIVE ON MESSANT AND FARMS ROAD OUT IN WARREN COUNTY OFF SIX 19.

FRONT ROYAL HAS BEEN MY HOME SINCE JANUARY OF 1999.

SO 25 YEARS THIS WEEK.

ACTUALLY, DURING THAT TIME, I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF CHANGE AND TRAFFIC IS ONE OF THEM.

UM, FRONT ROYAL IS MY HOME.

I PLAN TO LIVE AND HOPEFULLY DIE HERE.

UM, I TOO DESIRE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A GOOD COMMUNITY FOR MY CHILDREN.

I HAVE A 20-YEAR-OLD SON.

I HAVE A 19-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO STAY HERE.

I'D LIVE HERE AND WORK HERE.

THAT'S THEIR DESIRE TOO.

UM, RIGHT NOW MY SON IS RENTING BECAUSE HE CAN'T AFFORD A HOME, YOU KNOW, AT 20, THAT'S NOT TOO ABNORMAL.

BUT AT 22 OR 21, I WAS ABLE TO BUY MY FIRST PROPERTY HERE, MAKING A LOT LESS MONEY THAN HE'S MAKING NOW.

SO THINGS HAVE DEFINITELY CHANGED.

AND I DO SUPPORT, UM, THE KIND OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL HELP OUR YOUNG CHILDREN TO STAY HERE.

UM, I, I TONIGHT'S VOTE, HOWEVER, AS YOU NOTED, IS NOT ABOUT THIS MAGDALENE CAPITAL PROJECT OR ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AS GREAT AS THIS MAGDALENE CAPITAL PROJECT MAY SOUND TO ANY OF US TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY NOT ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC P AND D PROPOSAL.

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IF IT'S A TINY TEXT CHANGE.

WELL, WHY DON'T WE WORK ON SOMETHING THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY IN THE LONG RUN? WHY DON'T WE WRITE INTO OUR CODE THE ALLOWANCE FOR A VARIANCE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THESE PROJECTS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? AND THIS IDEA THAT, UM, LARGE DEVELOPERS WON'T LOOK AT SOMETHING UNDER FIVE ACRES IS BLATANTLY FALSE.

YOU CAN FIND WHERE RYAN HOLMES HAS WORKED ON PROPERTIES IN MIDDLETOWN THAT ARE FOR SOMETHING ACRES.

IT'S A, IT DOES APPEAL TO THEM.

SO I THINK IN ORDER TO KEEP IT TO OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO ALLOW FOR A VARIANCE CHANGE LIKE THOMAS HINTON SPOKE ABOUT.

UM, I THINK MELANIE, AS WELL AS OTHERS, LET'S SUPPORT THESE PROJECTS IN A WAY THAT SUPPORTS GROWTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, UM, ONE THING THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE, FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING HERE, FOR PEOPLE IN THAT MIDDLE CLASS.

BUT ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IS THE TAX INCREASES, THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.

THAT, THAT COME WITH OVERDEVELOPING AN AREA, BECAUSE THEN AS SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED, YOU HAVE, THEY SAID A DOLLAR 55, I'VE SEEN AS MUCH AS $2 THAT IN COST PER DOLLAR THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN, IN TAX REVENUE IN A RESIDENTIAL ONLY AREA.

GRANTED, THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH P AND D 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT MIXED USE AND YOU'VE GOT SOME DIFFERENT, YOU'VE GOT MORE TAX REVENUE COMING IN.

BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND NOT JUST, UM, MAKE THIS SWEEPING CHANGE, UM, THAT'S PROPOSED TONIGHT.

SO I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO.

UM, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS, UM, WITH SOMEONE BEING BOTH ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND VOTING TONIGHT.

MAYBE THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, BUT I, IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I HOPE SOMEBODY WILL RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THE VOTE TONIGHT, IF THAT IS, UM, AT ALL CONFLICT.

UM, BUT IN GENERAL, I'LL JUST ASK YOU TO VOTE NO TO THE SWEEPING CHANGE TONIGHT AND, UM, ALLOW FOR A VARIANCE, UM, THAT WOULD THEN BE THIS MAGDALENE CAPITAL PROJECT AND OTHERS COULD COME FOR, COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR VARIANCE, UM, UNDER THE P AND D CODE.

AND THAT COULD BE UNDER FIVE, FIVE ACRES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UNTIL YOU MEMBERS ON THE TOWN COUNCIL HAVE WIDELY DISTRIBUTED ANSWERS TO MY FIVE QUESTIONS IN AMERICA, IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS SAY IT'S TRUE IN AMERICA.

WE'LL JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM.

MR. LEMBERG, I NEED EXTRA PAPER.

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME IS JOHN LUNDBERG.

I LIVE AT 2 0 3 PEACHTREE COURT IN FRONT ROYAL.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL DELAY A VOTE ON THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE UNTIL THE AVERAGE VOTER IN FRONT ROYAL IS AWARE OF THE IMPACT OF THIS COMPLICATED AND CONTROVERSIAL CHANGE ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

TWO LENGTHY LETTERS TO THE ROYAL EXAMINER LAST WEEK BY TWO VERY BRIGHT PEOPLE, TOM HENNE, WHO YOU JUST HEARD SPEAK.

AND CONNIE MARSH, A RESPECTED MEMBER OF OUR TOWN TOWN PLANNING COMMISSION, ILLUSTRATE HOW COMPLICATED THIS ISSUE IS UNTIL THE TOWN COUNCIL, EACH ONE OF YOU HAS PROVIDED ORDINARY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH ANSWERS TO THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF QUESTIONS, CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY SO THEY CAN ONLY BE UNDERSTOOD, BUT CAN'T BE MISUNDERSTOOD.

DON'T VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL.

QUESTION NUMBER ONE, WHAT WILL REALLY BE THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE ON FRONT ROYALS SMALL TOWN CHARM? QUESTION TWO, WHAT LOCAL BUILDERS OR BIG NATIONAL BUILDERS WILL BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THE PROPOSED CHANGE? IN FACT, WHAT SIZE BUILDERS ARE FOR THIS CHANGE AND WHAT SIZE BUILDERS ARE AGAINST THIS CHANGE? AND WHY I REPEAT AND WHY QUESTION NUMBER THREE.

IF FIVE ACRE PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PARCELS ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE TO BIG DEVELOPERS, AS MRS. MARSH STATES IN HER LETTER TO THE EDITOR LAST WEEK, IS THERE SOME WAY BIG DEVELOPERS CAN GET AROUND THE LAW AND OBLITERATE FRONT ROYALS, SMALL TOWN CHARM? QUESTION FOUR, WHAT DOES THE PND PLAN DEVELOP PLAN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS ONE OF 18 CODES THAT GOVERNS OUR DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY REALLY MEAN? I THINK VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

AND MY LAST QUESTION, AND MAYBE MY MOST IMPORTANT ONE, I DON'T KNOW, MR. HEITZ STATED IN HIS LETTER TO THE ROYAL EXAMINER LAST WEEK QUOTE, LIKE MOST THINGS IN MODERN AMERICA, THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY IS RIGGED AGAINST THE LITTLE GUY.

WEALTHY AND POWERFUL NATIONAL CORPORATIONS CURRENTLY HAVE VAST ADVANTAGES OVER LOCAL BUILDERS.

IS MR. HEN WRIGHT, HOW DO YOU MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL PROPOSE TO ANSWER HIM IN CLOSING? DON'T, AGAIN, DON'T VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL.

AND

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YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE ORDINARY PEOPLE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE TONIGHT BY MR. FEDRA.

AND MR. STEVE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

I BELIEVE, YEP.

YES, GOOD EVENING.

UM, MY NAME IS SLOAN CASEY.

I LIVE AT 41 0 3 REMOUNT ROAD.

SO IT'S, UH, IT IS NOT WITHIN THE TOWN.

IT IS THE COUNTY, UM, OF OTHERS HAVE COME UP AND SAID IT BETTER AND MORE CONVINCING THAN I CAN.

SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

I LOVE THE SMALL TOWN CHARM OF FRONT ROYAL.

IT'S AFFORDABLE, DOESN'T HAVE CRAZY TRAFFIC AND MAINTAINS HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND AREAS.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT GO THE WAY OF MOST OF THE REST OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA PACKED WITH COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES AND STRIP MALLS AND BLOCKED UP WITH A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND BEING OVERPOPULATED.

THE MAGDALENE PROJECT SOUNDS WONDERFUL, BUT LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, IT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING VOTED ON TONIGHT, IT IS JUST THE REZONING ISSUE.

UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO AND ALLOW FOR VARIANCES ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

LIKE MELANIE AND THOMAS AND OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED COMPLETELY CHANGING THE REZONING LAWS IN OUR COUNTY MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR BIGGER CORPORATIONS TO COME IN AND DEMOLISH OUR QUAINT LITTLE TOWN.

IT MAKES IT A LOT HARDER FOR US TO HOLD ONTO THE THINGS WE LOVE ABOUT FRONT ROYAL UPDATING TO ALLOW FOR VARIANCES, OPENS IT UP TO GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT SO THAT OUR CHILDREN CAN STAY IN THIS AREA.

ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL MENTIONED THAT WE WANT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN AN APPRE AND WE LOVE THIS AREA, UM, BUT WITHOUT THE LOSS OF, UH, THE SMALL TOWN CHARMAN FEEL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

NO, I'M HAVE TO GO OVER.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME'S EVAN CASEY.

I'M 4 1 0 3 REMOUNT ROAD.

SO ALSO NOT IN TOWN LIMITS, BUT WE'RE IN COUNTY.

UM, SO AGAIN, EVERYONE'S, EVERYONE'S SAID PRETTY MUCH, UH, EVERYTHING TO BE SAID HERE TONIGHT.

UM, BUT THOMAS KIND OF MADE MENTION THIS.

MR. H HAD MENTIONED THIS IN HIS SPEECH, UM, A SIMPLE TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO WE ALL KNOW WORDS HAVE POWER, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE WRITTEN DOWN.

UM, SO A SIMPLE TEXT AMENDMENT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A ONE WORD CHANGE, CAN HAVE A REALLY BIG IMPACT.

SO THERE WAS ALSO, UM, UH, AN EARLIER SPEECH DURING THE EARLIER SPEAKING SECTION ABOUT A GATE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ANALOGY.

SO, UM, RATHER THAN DESTROYING THE GATE BY, BY CHANGING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT ON A, ON A BLANKET IN A BLANKET WAY, UM, OPENING THE GATE TO ALLOW MAGDALENE THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AND THEN CLOSING IT TO MAINTAIN GREATER PRUDENCE IN MAKING LATER CHANGES, UM, I THINK IS A, IS A REALLY WISE COURSE OF ACTION.

UM, AND AGAIN, NO ONE I THINK IN, IN EITHER SIDE DISAGREES THAT WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE, WE WANNA MAKE THIS A PLACE WHERE OUR FAMILIES CAN STAY AND LIVE.

UM, AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE I'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT SUPPORTS WHAT MADELEINE PROJECT IS TRYING TO DO.

UM, IT'S NOT THAT THAT'S THAT ISSUE, IT'S THIS BLANKET CHANGE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION REALLY SEEM TO BE OPPOSED TO.

UM, AND I'M, I'M FULLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM ON THAT.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT HOW THIS ONE SMALL WORD CHANGE CAN HAVE A, A GREATER IMPACT THAN PASSING JUST A VARIANCE.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

SAID, PASSING THIS WILL, I'VE SEEN WHAT TOWNHOUSES DO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, TO A TOWN.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES JUST TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? YES.

COME ON DOWN NEXT CONTEST.

SORRY.

CONNIE MARSH OF FORT RODNEY AVENUE INTOWN.

UM, I'M THE AUTHOR OF ONE OF THOSE ARTICLES IN THE ROYAL EXAMINER.

AND AS I WAS LISTENING, I JUST HAVE TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, THE QUOTE ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR FIVE ACRES, I GOT THAT FROM WATCHING THE VIDEO OF THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, BACK IN NOVEMBER WHENEVER IT WAS.

UH, BUT WHAT HAS STRUCK ME WAS HOW LISTENING TO THESE DIFFERENT SPEAKERS WAS HOW PEOPLE ARE TALKING AT DIFFERENT LEVELS AT CROSS PURPOSES.

I MEAN, THE, THE PRESENTATION FROM MAGDALENE CAPITAL MADE IT CLEAR THAT THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE BRO HOUSES.

THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE A TOWNHOUSE SUBDIVISION.

AND YET SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO SPOKE

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OKAY? BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TOWNHOUSES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAIN STREET REPLICATED IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN.

UM, UH, PEOPLE TALK AS IF THIS IS A CHANGE THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO VOTE TONIGHT ON A CHANGE OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE ZONING CODE.

NO, THIS IS NOT A CHANGE IN THE WHOLE ZONING CODE.

THIS IS A CHANGE OF ONE WORD IN SECTION.

I DON'T HAVE IT EXACTLY IN FRONT OF ME.

1 75 0.35, WHATEVER.

IT'S ONE CHANGE IN ONE PARTICULAR SECTION.

UM, SO THIS IS NOT ARMAGEDDON.

UM, AND IF, IF, IF FIVE ACRES CAN BE MADE, CHARMING, USEFUL, CONVENIENT, AND AFFORDABLE, UM, WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING FIVE ACRES THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE? AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LINE, THIS ISN'T ABOUT MAG JONES CAPITAL.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE PROPOSAL.

EVERY SINGLE P AND D THAT ANYBODY EVER WANTS TO DO WILL BE A SEPARATE PROPOSAL THAT WILL GO THROUGH A THOUSAND PAGES OF LEGAL WORK AND PREPARATION AND HASSLE, AND SEVEN DIFFERENT HEARINGS AND SEVEN DIFFERENT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS.

SO IT IS ABOUT MAGDALENE CAPITAL, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME UP WITH THE IDEA, WHO HAVE INVESTED THE MONEY TO DO THE DESIGN AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO THEIR IDEAS ARE WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, AND THEIR IDEAS ARE MULTI-USE DENSE AREA.

LIKE IT WOULD BE LIKE MAIN STREET MOVED A COUPLE MILES AWAY, UM, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND WITH MORE HOUSING, MAYBE EVEN CONDOS.

CAN YOU SAY THE WORD CONDO IN FRONT? ROYAL, WOULDN'T THAT BE EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WORD? I MEAN WITH MAYBE EVEN CONDOS WITH OFFICES, NEW CLEAN OFFICES THAT ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY BUILT FOR PROFICIENCY, BASEMENT PARKING.

COME ON.

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? ANYHOW, JUST, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO KEEP CUTTING IT OFF? SORRY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, THIS PUBLIC HEARING? AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? NO.

GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE? NOBODY.

I'M GONNA CLOSE.

UH, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA CLOSE THE HEARING.

DID YOU, MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, I'M GONNA BUT YOUR, OKAY, I'M GONNA, BUT YOUR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DID NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL, CONTINUE THE HEARING UNTIL THE NEXT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE IS.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

WHEN'S THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? FEBRUARY 26TH.

THE FEBRUARY 26TH.

UM, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

OKAY, THERE'S A SECOND.

UM, SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO FEBRUARY 26TH.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? FEBRUARY 26TH.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATE, UH, MOTION.

THIS IS WHERE IT ALWAYS GETS INTERESTING.

MR. SONNET, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION VERSE OR CAN WE, CAN WE AMEND THE MOTION? UM, RIGHT, THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

HOWEVER, UM, A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION.

IN THIS CASE, I SUSPECT IT'S GONNA BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REALLY AMEND.

WELL, UNLESS IT'S JUST THE DATE.

YEAH, MADAM MAYOR, I CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I HAVE DISCUSSION IF NOBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE DISCUSSION'S.

UM, IN FURTHERMENT, IN FURTHERANCE OF THE PURPOSES AND OBJECTIVES CONTAINED IN TOWN CODE SECTION 1 75 DASH ONE B, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL DENY AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE SECTIONS 1 75 DASH 37 3 C, SECTION 1 75, 37 0.4 A AND SECTION 1 75 37 0.17.

UH, A PERTAINING TO PLAN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT DISTRICT MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT.

SECOND, I'M GONNA ASK MR. SONNET TO, TO ADVISE ME.

SO AT THIS POINT, THAT IS NOW THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

THAT IS NOW THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SO, UH, THAT MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.

AND LET'S OPEN THAT ONE UP TO DISCUSSION.

THAT MOTION JUST DIES.

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? YEAH.

HOLD ON ONE SEC.

I I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS NOW THAT ONE, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND THEN SOMEBODY, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

VICE MAYOR OG HAD JUST QUESTIONED, DID THAT MEAN THAT HIS MOTION DIES? SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, UM, THIS MOTION OF DENIAL.

ANYBODY JUMP? YOU WANNA GO FIRST? NO, YOU COULD GO FIRST.

UH, WHEN YOU, WHEN, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN, THE COMP PLAN, UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, MADAM MAYOR, MAY I SPEAK? YES.

OUT OF ORDER? IT'S OKAY.

UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN, THE PLAN, THE COMP PLAN ADDRESSES SMALL TOWN CHARM, AND WE HAVE LIKE MAYBE 10.2 SQUARE MILES.

UH, WE'RE TIGHT, WE'RE TIGHT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, UH, I WOR I WORRY, I WORRY ABOUT, UH, THE FACT THAT, UH, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE SIZE OF ALL THESE 72 PROPERTIES.

UH, I THINK 38 OF 'EM WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

AND MY CONCERN IS, IS WHAT YOU, ONCE, ONCE YOU GO DOWN, DOWN THIS ROAD AND YOU REDUCE THE SIZE OF A P AND D, WHICH TRADITIONALLY P AND DS, MY UNDERSTANDING, P AND DS, AND I'VE LIVED OTHER PLACES WHERE 2020 ACRES CONTIGUOUS IS BASICALLY THE GENERAL THING THAT YOU LOOK AT BECAUSE YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING, AND YOU ALSO GET THE OPPORTUNITIES OF GETTING A GROCERY STORE AND OTHER THINGS, UH, LIKE THAT IN YOUR, IN YOUR LITTLE COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, I, I HAVE, I HAVE, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

IF WE WERE, WERE TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION, JUST DO THE MATH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES YOU CAN PUT IN ON OR DWELLINGS IN A FIVE ACRE, EIGHT ACRES, BUT YOU, IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 22.

UH, AND YOU START MULTIPLYING TIMES TWO AND A HALF, UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET A LOT OF CONGESTION.

AND I'M WORRIED, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE ROAD IMPACT, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ARE ALREADY STRESSED.

UH, UM, WE, OUR WATER IS STRESSED.

UH, I JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY, I CAN'T REALLY COME TO SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME.

UM, I, UH, I'M QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 20 CONTIGUOUS P AND D UH, CODE RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.

MADAM MAYOR.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS, YOU WANNA, YOU WISH TO SPEAK OR, I MEAN, I CAN GO DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU JUST GO AHEAD.

COUNCILMAN INGRAM? UH, YES, MADAM MAYOR.

UM, I, I TOO ECHO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, RAPPAPORT JUST STATED.

BUT, UH, AGAIN, AS, AS IT'S BEEN SAID THROUGHOUT THE EVENING, AND I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS REALLY WHAT'S THE, UM, OVERWHELMING CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT IT'S, THIS DOES HAVE AN IMPACT, UH, FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR TOWN.

AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THE IDEA OF WHAT THEIR, WHAT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO DO, BUT, UH, TO USE THIS AS A LITMUS TEST FOR, FOR, UM, ZONING, IT'S GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN IMPACT FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

UH, I JUST, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

UH, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT P AND D, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN DEPTH, BUT I JUST, I, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF USING, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, APPLICATION LIKE THIS TO DETERMINE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TOWN'S, UM, OUR TOWN'S POTENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE, FOR YEARS TO COME.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT

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THAT.

TOWN ATTORNEY TO WRITE A VARIANCE CODE.

ALRIGHT, YOU READY? THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

UM, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WE ALL DO OUR RESEARCH AND WE ALL CARE ABOUT LOVE FRONT.

ROYAL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S SITTING UP HERE LACKADAISICALLY VOTING ON THESE THINGS AT HAND.

UM, I HAVE PUT, UM, A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT ACTUALLY.

UM, A FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER AND COLLEAGUE WHO I HIGHLY RESPECT, UH, LEFT THE COUNCIL ABRUPTLY TO WORK ON DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THESE.

UM, AND HIM AND I HAD SPOKEN 18 PLUS MONTHS AGO ABOUT P AND D AND HOW MUCH I ADORE THE WAY THAT SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE ADOPTED AND USED P AND D TO BEAUTIFY THEIR COMMUNITIES TO INCREASE REVENUE, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE DO AND CAN SAY CONDO, I'VE SAID IT SITTING ON THIS DICE MANY TIMES, WE NEED A DIVERSE OPTION OF HOUSING IN FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY.

UM, I'M OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, P AND D MEGA HOMES THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT HAVE HELD US UP FOR 20 YEARS AND ONLY SET PROGRESS BACK IN THIS COMMUNITY LIKE HEP TED THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED HERE MULTIPLE TIMES TONIGHT.

SO, A COUPLE OF POINTS I'D LIKE TO ADD.

I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE FIRST MOTION MADE TONIGHT THAT WAS TO DELAY THIS UNTIL FEBRUARY 26TH.

I DON'T SEE A REASON IN DELAYING THIS MOTION WHEN IN ONE MONTH WE'LL ONLY MEET TWO MORE TIMES FOR A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS IT.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, AN OVERWORKED, UNDERSTAFFED PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT IN A LOT OF WAYS.

UH, WE ACTUALLY JUST HEARD FROM A CONSTITUENT TODAY ABOUT HOW WE NOW HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR BLIGHTED PROPERTIES AND SLUMLORDS AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO ENFORCE IT.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW IN TWO MEETINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ANSWER AND THE SAME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTE TO DENY SOMETHING CAN BRING THAT BACK.

SO FOR ME, IT'S JUST KICKING THE CAN, WHICH FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY WERE NOTORIOUS FOR, FOR MANY DECADES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE.

SO IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD END HERE.

WE SHOULD REVISIT IT.

WE HAD A WORK SESSION.

THIS HAS HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK, WHAT TO EXPECT.

UM, SPEAKING FOR EVERYBODY BROADLY IN THAT REGARD, I HAVE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND RESEARCH INTO THIS.

UM, MOST PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT MY GREAT AUNT REBECCA POE WAS A HISTORIAN HERE.

SHE WAS A LOCAL WRITER.

SHE CONTRIBUTED MUCH TO THE WAR AND HERITAGE SOCIETY AND SHE WAS A PRESERVATIONIST.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT AND BEEN INVOLVED IN FOR DECADES, UM, AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO P AND D.

UM, I ACTUALLY TALKED TO SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS ABOUT P AND D BEFORE IT EVER BECAME A THING.

UM, AND LOUDOUN COUNTY HAS BEEN REFERENCED MANY TIMES BY STAFF, BY THE CONSTITUENTS, BY PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING HERE TONIGHT.

SO SINCE SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED RUNNING INTO ONE OF US ON A CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I'LL ADD TO THAT.

I LITERALLY RAN WITH A CAMPAIGN SLOGAN ON MY PALM CARDS.

DON'T LOUD IN OUR VALLEY.

UM, COMING FROM A FAMILY OF PRESERVATIONISTS, WHAT YOU DO, UH, WHEN YOU TRY TO COMBAT SOME HOUSING CRISIS IS THAT YOU PRICE THE LOCALS OUT.

THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD THEIR REAL ESTATE TAXES ONCE YOU'VE OVERDEVELOPED A COMMUNITY.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO RAN IN FAVOR OF HAVING A VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY, WHICH I THOUGHT LACKED FOR MANY YEARS FROM SEVERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND A STRATEGY FOR GROWTH.

IF YOU LOOK AT 66 AND YOU KNOW, THE WASHINGTON METROPOLITAN AREA, IT'S COMING, IT'S BEEN COMING FOR DECADES.

AND HOW WE APPROACH THAT WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE REAL CRISIS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FACING TONIGHT.

UM, I'M JUST GOING TO ALSO SAY THE VILLAGE AT MIDDLETOWN.

I THINK SOMEBODY DID BRING THAT UP.

IT'S ONLY FIVE ACRES, LESS THAN FIVE ACRES.

THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS OUT THERE THAT RYAN HOLMES AND VAN METER ARE DOING RIGHT NOW FOR LESS THAN FIVE ACRES.

SO THAT ARGUMENT IS NULL AND VOID.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY A NATIONAL DEVELOPER WOULDN'T WANNA SPEND LESS MONEY AND MAKE MORE MONEY STILL.

UM, THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO 50 ACRES CERTAINLY, BUT THEY'LL TAKE WHAT THEY CAN GET.

AND ESPECIALLY IN A PLACE LIKE FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY WHERE WE HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST REAL ESTATE TAXES IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.

THEY LOVE OUR LAND AND WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VALLEY.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE GATEWAY TO THE SKYLINE DRIVE WHERE THE CANOE CAPITAL OF VIRGINIA.

WHY WOULDN'T A DEVELOPER WANNA COME HERE AND BUILD BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND DO THAT? IT IS NOT PERSONAL AGAINST MAGDALENE.

I KNOW THAT SOMEONE SAID, WELL IF YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS, IT KIND OF IS 'CAUSE THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

WELL, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE OPENING THE GATE TO CHANGE THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW ANY REZONING APPLICATION TO APPLY FOR THIS.

AND WHAT I'M AFRAID OF SEEING IS 38 HEP TABS, WHERE 1520 COUNCILS HAVE TO SIT THROUGH MULTIPLE CHANGES.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THE ARGUABLE ONE OR TWO WORD CHANGE IN THE ENTIRE PROJECTION OF OUR ZONING CODE, UM, IT CHANGES THE PROJECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH ONE OR TWO WORDS.

ONCE THE ACREAGE IS DROPPED FROM 50 TO TWO, ANYONE CAN REZONE IT.

UM, MY WISH WOULD BE TO DIRECT PLANNING AND ZONING AND STAFF AND THE TOWN MANAGER AND THE

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I KNOW IT'S BEEN MENTIONED LOOSELY TONIGHT, BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS VARIANCE IS EVEN FOR MOVING YOUR SHED, WHICH CURRENTLY CALLS A LOT OF ISSUES FOR PEOPLE IN THE TOWN WHO ARE UNAWARE OF PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS DON'T UNDERSTAND BY RIGHT.

A PLANNING COMMISSIONER DID MENTION THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, AND THAT IT WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND THAT WE HAD ZONING ORDINANCES IN PLACE.

IF WE ONLY CHANGED THESE TWO WORDS.

WE'VE SEEN HERE REPEATEDLY ON SLIDESHOW FROM BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE APPLICANT TONIGHT, THAT THERE ARE MANY BUYRIGHT ALLOWANCES.

UM, YOU ADD COMMERCIAL ZONING, UM, THAT ALLOWS MEDICAL OFFICES, WHICH CAN BRING IN ABORTION CLINICS.

IT ALLOWS COMMERCIAL ZONING, WHICH WITHOUT BANS COULD BRING IN COMMERCIAL DATA CENTERS.

THEY'RE SMALLER SCALE, BUT THEY'RE A DATA CENTER.

NONETHELESS, THEY'RE THE SAME STRAIN ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.

AND THAT COULD ALL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN BY ONLY CHANGING ONE OR TWO WORDS.

SO THE GUARDRAILS THAT ARE MENTIONED THAT ARE IN PLACE ARE NOT GUARDRAILS TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY FOR WHAT YOU ALL KNOW AND LOVE.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MANY OF YOU, BUT I THINK A LOT OF YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT AS WELL.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE POVERTY LEVEL IN FRONT ROYAL, WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE HOUSING CRISIS IN FRONT ROYAL.

UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE END ALL TO THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT FRONT ROYAL'S FACING, AND IT'S A NATIONAL CRISIS.

VIRGINIA IS IN THE TOP FIVE OF THAT.

UM, BUT THERE IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THIS WITHOUT IT BEING TWO ACRES.

UH, A PLANNING COMMISSIONER ALSO SPOKE TONIGHT AND MENTIONED FIVE ACRES.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.

SO IF FIVE ACRES WAS GOOD FOR YOU GUYS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED HERE AT COUNCIL TONIGHT, IT'S TWO ACRES THAT WE'RE VOTING ON FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

I THINK THAT FRONT ROYAL CAN AND SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR NEIGHBORING NORTHERN VIRGINIA COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GRAPPLING TO PULL BACK THEIR LACKADAISICAL ZONING REQUIREMENTS TO ENTICE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT THEY FACED.

BECAUSE NOW THOSE WHO LIVE THERE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

I RECENTLY TALKED TO THE NEIGHBOR OR MAYOR I BELIEVE OF PURCIVILLE OR LEESBURG AT VML CONFERENCE IN NORFOLK AND SHE SAID THAT NO DEVELOPER CAN EVEN AFFORD TO BUY ONE ACRE OF LAND IN LEESBURG RIGHT NOW FOR ANY PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE REAL ESTATE TAX ON IT, WHICH IS CONSEQUENTLY ALMOST EQUAL TO THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THE LOAN PAYMENT FOR THAT LOAN.

UM, THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED THERE, I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

UH, SO I JUST, I DON'T THINK THAT DELAYING IT IS GONNA BE ANY HELP TO MAGDALENE THE APPLICANT OR COUNSEL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IN FOUR WEEKS TO BRING BACK HERE FEBRUARY 22ND.

OF COURSE, WE COULD LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR AN UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME AND JUST CONTINUE TO KICK THE CAN.

BUT I THINK IT'S A MUCH LARGER ISSUE THAN JUST DELAYING THIS WHILE WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN IN ANOTHER WORK SESSION.

UM, AND THERE ARE CONDOS AND TOWNHOUSES THAT WERE IN THOSE RENDERINGS.

SO I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE MAYBE A TOWN HALL IS WHAT WE NEED.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED WITH BOTH THE DEVELOPER SLASH APPLICANT CONSTITUENTS.

A LOT OF 'EM DIDN'T SHOW UP HERE TONIGHT.

I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS AND CALLS FOR WEEKS ABOUT THIS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS SURROUNDING THIS, BUT, UH, I DO NOT SUPPORT KICKING THE CAN RATHER THAN ADDRESSING IT AND BRINGING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR SILA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? COMMISSIONER? UM, COUNCILMAN WOOD? I'D LIKE YES, YOU'RE RIGHT ON BOTH CASES.

WOULD, I BELIEVE THE THOUGHT WAS APARTMENTS OVER TOP OF THE, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SORRY.

YES, WE ALL RAN ON CERTAIN PLATFORMS AND, UH, ONE FOR ME WAS LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE.

AND I CAN REMEMBER THE EXCITEMENT WHEN, UH, THIS DEVELOPER BROUGHT THIS PROJECT TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE WORK SESSION MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO.

AND I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE DEVELOPER BROUGHT IT TO OUR WORK SESSION AND I REALLY FELT LIKE IF YOU HAVEN'T READ UP ON THIS, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU PROBABLY OUGHT TO SEE THE RENDERING TO UNDERSTAND THAT HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MIXED USE COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW THAT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, FOR THE MOST PART, EXCEPT FOR 55 AND OLDER, IS A LOST LEADER.

BUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DOES GENERATE TAX REVENUE AND THEY DON'T USE SERVICES.

SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND IT WAS STUDIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PRESENTATIONS MADE, AND THEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL, IT SEEMED LIKE A VERY GOOD WAY TO DIP HER TOE IN THE WATER USING A LOCAL DEVELOPER, LOCAL LABOR, NOT RYAN HOLMES COMING IN HERE WITH THEIR TRAILERS AND BUILDING THESE THINGS AND LEAVING WITH A MIXED USE OF HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEXES, CONDOMINIUMS, POSSIBLY APARTMENTS.

AND OF COURSE THERE

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AGAIN USING, UH, REFERENCE TO MAIN STREET.

IT WAS ENVISIONED TO BE A SMALL WALKING COMMUNITY WHERE YOU COULD GO OUT AND GET YOUR DRY CLEANING, GET A CUP OF COFFEE, NOT EVER HAVE TO GET IN THE CAR.

WHATEVER WE DO, WHATEVER WE DO, WE'RE GONNA SEE INCREASED TRAFFIC.

I ASKED THE QUESTIONS DURING THAT OF STAFF AND OF THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ON A ROAD LIKE A CREEK WOULD REQUIRE SIGNALIZATION.

BUT IT'S COMING.

IT'S DEFINITELY COMING.

WE HAVE THE HET TAB SITUATION HOPEFULLY TO UH, RESOLVE.

THERE ARE 330 HOUSES THAT COULD BE BUILT TOMORROW OFF OF SHANAN OR SHORES ROAD.

IT'S COMING AND WE WILL KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD IN WAYS OF NOT MAKING A DECISION AND TRYING SOMETHING NEW, TRYING SOMETHING THAT COULD PROVIDE A LITTLE RELIEF IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, I FULLY SUPPORTED IT.

I STAY WITH THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN A STUDY THIS AND RATHER THAN DENY IT, THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN DEMAN CAMPAIGN.

NOT MUCH OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT YES, MY PURPOSE IN DENIAL WAS NOT TO KICK DOWN THE ROAD, BUT TO, TO TRY TO DO SOME ACTIVE ADDRESSING OF IN PARTICULAR WHAT, HOW THE CODE COULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT VARIANCES, BUT FOLKS, UH, QUOTED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT VARIANCES, WHICH WAS NOT THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING, SO I, UM, JUST WANTED MORE TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, IF, IF PEOPLE CAN BRING IT BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE AROUND 10 ACRES.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE LESS, UM, LESS HOUSING TO START WITH, UM, AND A MORE REASONABLE STEP FOR US.

SHOPS ON SOUTH STREET ALONE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I HAVE TWO MORE POINTS I'D LIKE TO ADD.

UM, MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT ARE WATCHING FROM HOME.

NO.

THAT THIS, UH, SORRY.

I HAVE A LOT TO SAY.

I LOVE FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY AND I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO LOVE IT FOR MANY GENERATIONS.

UM, TALKING ABOUT KICKING THE KEY IN, IT WASN'T POINTED AT ANY OF MY COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING ON THIS DAIS.

HOWEVER, I FEEL THAT THE OBVIOUS DECISION HERE IS A CHANGE TO CODE.

IT'S A CHANGE TO, UM, THE WAY THAT THE TOWN CODE AND THE ZONING ORDINANCES, UH, WORK.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE JUST KNOW THAT IT'S NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN WITHIN 30 DAYS.

EVEN IF WE GET THE INFORMATION, THE CODE'S NOT GONNA CHANGE BY THE FEBRUARY 26TH.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO, THAT'S WHERE WE'D TAKE ACTION, WHICH IS A STRETCH.

AND THEN LASTLY TO MR. COUNCILMAN WOODS' POINT, UM, I DO LOVE THAT IT'S A LOCAL DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER.

IT'S LOCAL LABOR.

I KNOW BOTH OF THEM.

I, I RESPECT BOTH OF THEM.

I'VE SEEN THE WORK THAT THEY DO IN OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THEY OWN AND OPERATE AND THEY DO FANTASTIC WORK AND THEY HAVE GREAT REPUTATIONS.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THAT DEVELOPER TONIGHT.

WE'RE VOTING ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH ONCE THAT GOES THROUGH, WE CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THE DEVELOPER IS.

SO IF HEP IF, SORRY, THAT'S A SOURCE SUBJECT, NOT HEPT HABITAT.

IF RYAN HOLMES OR VAN METER, OR, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ANY OF THE OTHER LARGE ONES INTERESTED IN OUR AREA AT THIS MOMENT ARE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE WAITING AT THE DOOR.

THEY'VE BEEN PAWING AT IT FOR TWO YEARS AT LEAST.

NOW, UM, IF THEY OWN ANY PIECE OF LAND OR CAN QUICKLY BUY IT, WHICH THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY LOTS OF TWO ACRE LAND, UM, THEY WILL BE HERE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY WITH THEIR MANPOWER AND THEIR COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES AND THEIR FACTORIES SET UP IN TRAILERS, THEIRS WOULD PROBABLY BE FINISHED BEFORE THE LOCAL LABOR AND LOCAL DEVELOPERS WOULD BE, BECAUSE THEIR HOUSES ARE PUT TOGETHER IN ABOUT FIVE DAYS.

UM, SO ANYWAYS, NONETHELESS, I DON'T, IT'S NOT PERSONAL, IT'S NOT AGAINST MAGDALENE.

I SUPPORT P AND D.

I ALSO RAN ON WALKABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND HAVING SIDEWALKS AND HANDICAP RAMPS.

AND TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SELF-SUFFICIENT AREAS.

6 0 6 IS AN ISSUE.

SHENANDOAH SHORES, YOU HAVE THE TRAIN THAT BLOCKS IT.

HAVING AN OPTION OUT IN THAT AREA OF HAPPY CREEK WOULD BE NICE FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE.

UM, BUT I, I JUST DO NOT THINK THAT WE HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE FOR THIS TO NOT BE USED AND ABUSED FOR PURPOSES OF COMMERCIAL ITEMS THAT WE DO NOT WANT IN FRONT ROYAL.

AND I THINK WE'VE LEARNED THAT HERE AS A COUNCIL AND A PLANNING COMMISSION.

IF YOU LOOK AT VAPE SHOPS, WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT VAPE SHOPS WERE GONNA BRING TO FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY.

AND WE ALLOWED THEM.

WE HAD NO RESTRICTIONS.

AND NOW WE'VE PUT RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, BUT THERE ARE MORE THAN SEVEN VAPE

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AND NOW WE CAN'T ROLL IT BACK AND TAKE 'EM AWAY.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS IF WE CHANGE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT TONIGHT, AND ANOTHER COMPANY OR CORPORATION APPLIES FOR A ZONING CHANGE FOR P AND D AT TWO ACRES, THEN WE ARE EXPOSING OURSELVES TO A LAWSUIT BY BEING ARBITRARY BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAND PICK UNDER THIS TYPE OF ZONING UNDER A VARIANCE.

WE CAN CHOOSE WHAT WE DO AND DON'T WANT.

A VARIANCE ALLOWS THAT CHANGING THE TEXT AMENDMENT GIVES US NO CONTROL OR POWER.

WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE ARREST MY CASE.

THANK YOU .

UM, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY, SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ASK, UH, MR. SONNETT, AT THIS TIME, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION AS TO, UH, UM, THE ABILITY FOR MR. WOOD TO VOTE TONIGHT.

AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU PLEASE, IF YOU WILL, UM, SHARE YOUR ANALYSIS, OR NOT YOUR ANALYSIS, BUT THE CODE.

UM, I, I JUST WANT YOU, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT YOU HAVE THE NUMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT, UM, THERE IS ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF SOMEBODY BEING ON COUNCIL AND ALSO SITTING ON ANOTHER BOARD.

I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS IT TONIGHT BECAUSE AS FAR AS I THINK I SHOULD GO TONIGHT, IT'S FINE IN PUBLIC IS STATE LAW CLEARLY ALLOWS ONE MEMBER OF A GOVERNING BODY TO ALSO SERVE ON THAT GOVERNING BODY'S PLANNING COMMISSION.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'M GONNA ASK MS. PRESLEY LET'S, UM, DO A ROLL CALL.

CAN I, SHOULD I, MADAM MAYOR.

OH, I'M SO SORRY.

AND YOU HAVE ATTORNEY ON IT.

EXPLAIN HOW ONE MOTION TOOK OVER THE OTHER MOTION.

WHICH MOTION AND SECOND AND AMEND IT.

SO, UM, BUT, UM, COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD, IF YOU'LL, UH, SO COUNCILMAN WOULD ASK THAT MR. SONNET EXPLAIN, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC'S, UM, KNOWLEDGE, HOW ONE MOTION WAS ON THE FLOOR AND THAT AN AMENDMENT HAPPENED, AND WHY THAT ONE, UH, WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WE'D BE VOTING ON.

THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

SO, UM, COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AS ITS RULES OF PROCEDURE.

ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER ALLOWS AMENDMENTS TO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR.

AND IF THE NATURE OF THE AMENDMENT IS SUCH THAT IT'S BASICALLY A NEW MOTION, IT, I THINK IT'S REFERRED TO AS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

AND SO IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR THAT, WHICH IS SHOWN BY A SECOND, THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS, BECOMES THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

AND, AND THEN DISCUSSION OCCURS ON THAT MOTION.

AND IF IT, IF IT, UH, IF IT IS ADOPTED OR PASSED, THAT IS THE ACTION OF THIS BODY.

IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S DEFEATED, YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS ON THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, PARTS FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY.

NOW, MS. PRESLEY.

SO MS. PRESLEY, UM, FOR CO UH, FOR COUNCIL AND PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, UH, THE PROPOSED MOTION, UH, WAS IN SHORT TO DENY THE AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE SECTIONS.

FACE.

MAYOR LOC? YES.

COUNCILMAN DE DAMON PAYNE? YES.

COUNCILMAN WOOD? NO.

AND SO OUR NEXT, UM, MADAM MAYOR, OH, I'M SO SORRY.

SHOULD WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OH GOSH, I'M, I'M SORRY.

BECAUSE THERE WAS THE MOTION.

UM, 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY IS THAT NOW? I DIDN'T CLOSE IT BECAUSE THE, THE, THE MOTION WAS ON THE FLOOR TO LEAVE IT OPEN.

THEN THERE WAS A SECOND AMENDMENT.

I'M SO SORRY THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

UP IS THE, UM, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FROM THE WARREN COALITION FOR A LODGING HOUSE AT 5 0 1 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.

SO THERE'S, THERE, THERE'S REALLY, SO I DIDN'T, NO EFFECT OF NOT FORMALLY CLOSING IT.

[7.B. Special Use Permit Request from the Warren Coalition for a Lodging House at 501 S. Royal Avenue ]

MS. PRESLEY, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE, UM, SUMMARY? SORRY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

COUNSEL'S RECEIVED A SPECIAL, UH, REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE WARREN AND COALITION FOR A LODGING HOUSE AT 5 0 1 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT AND LOCATED IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR,

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NUMBER ONE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS OR UNITS SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT.

AND NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE 10 SPACES PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE USE.

THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BEHIND THE HOUSE DOES HAVE AN APARTMENT AND IS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

THE PARKING FOR THIS STRUCTURE HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ABOVE CALCULATION FOR NUMBER TWO, CONDITION ABOVE.

I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MS. PRESLEY? YES.

WE HAVE NINE SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS ANDREA WRIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

UM, I'M PUTTING MY OWN TIMER ON.

THAT WAS OVER 19,000 DAYS AGO.

AND IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR YES.

MY NAME IS ANDREA WRIGHT.

I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA.

I LIVE AT 2 1 6 8 HARVEST DRIVE.

AND I'M, UH, HERE TO SUPPORT THE, UH, LODGING HOUSE IN FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA.

I WANT, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE RECOVERY COMMUNITY.

I, MYSELF AM IN RECOVERY.

I'VE BEEN IN RECOVERY NEARLY 24 YEARS, UM, THIS FEBRUARY, AND I MOVED TO THE AREA SHENANDOAH VALLEY AREA IN FEBRUARY OF 2000 TO GET INTO RECOVERY.

UM, I'M IN RECOVERY FROM THE OVERUSE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND HAVE BEEN IN LONG-TERM RECOVERY SINCE THAT TIME.

I ALSO WORK WITH THE ADDICTIVE POPULATION WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER, MR. THOMPSON, HERE.

UM, WE WORK WITH ASPIRIN SPRINGS RECOVERY CONSULTANTS IN WINCHESTER.

WE WORK ALL OVER THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT STIGMA.

UM, I HAVE MY MASTER'S DEGREE IN INTERNATIONAL CRIMINOLOGY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SHEFFIELD SCHOOL OF LAW IN ENGLAND.

AND I DID MOST OF MY RESEARCH, UM, AND WRITING ON STIGMA, ADDICTION, UM, CRIMINALIZING DRUG ADDICTION, ET CETERA.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT STIGMA BECAUSE A LOT OF, UM, I THINK CONCERN AND WORRY SOMETIMES THAT I HEAR FROM EVERYBODY IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN HAVING A HELM LIKE THIS.

WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE HOME LIKE THIS? ON A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE? WILL IT CAUSE DEVALUING OF MY PROPERTY? UM, DEVALUING OF A PROPERTY HAS NEVER BEEN, UH, HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

IN AN INSTANCE OF A HALFWAY HOUSE FOR AN OXFORD HOUSE IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, STIGMA IS DEFINED, UH, AS A MARK OF DISGRACE ASSOCIATED WITH A PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, QUALITY OR PERSON, AND A SYNONYMOUS WITH SHAME, DISGRACE, DISHONOR, STAIN BLEMISH, ET CETERA.

UM, IRVING GOFFMAN FIRST, FIRST, UH, TALKED ABOUT STIGMA IN 1963.

HE WAS A PIONEER OF IT.

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE STIGMATIZED, LIKE I HAVE BEEN STIGMATIZED FOR MANY YEARS, AND I REMAIN STIGMATIZED BY MANY PEOPLE IN MY LIFE.

UM, IT CAN AFFECT YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL, UM, STATE, IT CAN AFFECT PSYCHOLOGICAL REPERCUSSIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE STIGMATIZED, BEING STIGMATIZED IN SOCIETY, CAN AND HAS PRODUCED GREAT HARM TO BOTH INDIVIDUALS AND THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM.

UM, HAVING A RECOVERY HOME, UH, FOR MANY PEOPLE WOULD HELP TO, UM, SUSTAIN THEM IN RECOVERY.

IT HELPS SOCIAL INCLUSION AND SOCIAL HELPS WITH THE SOCIAL IDENTITY THEORY.

AND SO I WOULD, I'M A PROPONENT FOR THAT.

UM, I'M SPEAKING A LITTLE ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT MY MAIN POINT IS THAT FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME, A FEMALE IN RECOVERY WITH THREE CHILDREN WHO BORN AND RAISED IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, LIVE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, NOW WORK HERE, PAY TAXES HERE, UM, I'VE NEVER SEEN WHERE THIS IS HARMFUL TO ANYBODY.

SO I'M, I'M A PROPONENT OF THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL HEAR, HEAR MY STRONG VOICE TONIGHT.

AND I'M SORRY IF I'M A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER.

I'M A LITTLE TIRED ACTUALLY AT THIS.

THERE YOU GO.

SO THAT'S IT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU MS. WRIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. PRESLEY.

WHO'S NEXT? HUGH MCGEE.

HUGH, WANT SOME HOT TO COLD? HUGH MCGEE, 96 MARSH LANE, WHITE POST VIRGINIA.

I'M IN CLARK COUNTY AND I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR.

UM, I AM A PERSON IN LONG-TERM RECOVERY.

I'M ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA.

I'M IN OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY SUBSTANCE ABUSE COALITION.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF RIVERDALE RECOVERY CENTER.

IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR 17 YEARS, UH, IN WHITE POST.

UH, I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THAT I, I GOT TRICKED INTO TRYING RECOVERY JUNE 10TH, 1970.

AND

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I HAVEN'T FOUND IT NECESSARY TO USE A DRUG OR DRINK.

I GOT TRICKED INTO IT WHEN I WAS 19 YEARS OLD AND DAMN IF IT DIDN'T WORK, YOU KNOW? AND SO, AGAIN, I'M AN ABSOLUTE, I THINK THIS IS SO NECESSARY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE THIS BIG GAP.

ONE IN EVERY 10 PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS AN ALCOHOLIC OR AN ADDICT.

YOU, EVERYBODY HERE HAS ONE IN THE FAMILY.

WE MIGHT NOT TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALL GOT ONE.

AND SO THE PATH OUT OF THIS ARE THESE TRANSITIONAL HOMES.

'CAUSE ONCE THEY HIT THE BOTTOM AND THEY GO THROUGH THE RECOVERY SYSTEM AND THEY GO INTO THESE HOMES, THEY ARE LONG-TERM RECOVERY.

THEY ARE THE ASSET IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE HAVE HELPED HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO HAVE THESE IN THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE 10 NARCAN PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

SHE LEFT TO LEAVE MICHAEL HALL.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

I'M MICHAEL HALL.

I LIVE AT FOUR 13 WEST SPRING STREET IN WOODSTOCK, VIRGINIA.

UH, I'M A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST WITH THE WARREN COALITION.

THEY ACTUALLY PAID FOR MY PEER RECOVERY CLASSES, AND THEY GAVE ME MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OTHERS IN RECOVERY BECAUSE I TOO AM IN LONG-TERM RECOVERY FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW.

AND I HELPING WITH THE HOUSE AND OTHERS THAT ARE IN RECOVERY.

I HAVE SEEN JUST HOW IMPORTANT.

IT'S BECAUSE I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH WHEN I WENT TO REHAB, I HAD A SAFE PLACE TO GO HOME.

AND I GOT TO GO BACK TO MY HOME IN WOODSTOCK BECAUSE I HAD A PARENT THAT WAS WILLING TO TAKE ME BACK IN AFTER ALL THE HARM I HAD CAUSED.

AND THE THING ABOUT THESE HOMES ARE IS IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE PROVIDE STRUCTURE.

IT'S BECAUSE WE DO, WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE HELP THEM GET GOOD JOBS, WHERE THEY'RE HELPING OUT IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY BECOME SUCCESSFUL MEMBERS OF LIFE.

AND AGAIN, AND, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE PROVIDE IS HOPE.

LIKE ONE OF THE WORST THINGS WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ACTIVE ADDICTION IS YOU HAVE NO HOPE.

YOU FEEL EMPTY, YOU LOST.

AND WHAT THESE HOMES DO, ESPECIALLY ONCE WE GET THE PEOPLE FROM REHAB AGAIN, THEY GET THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AGAIN.

THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE THEM WITH HOPE.

THEY LOVE, LIKE IN OUR RECOVERY COMMUNITY, WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO KNOW EACH OTHER.

BUT IT'S BECAUSE WE KNOW THE DEPTHS OF WHAT ADDICTION DOES.

AND WITH THESE HOMES, MAN, LIKE IT BRINGS US ALL TOGETHER.

WE TAKE PEOPLE TO MEETINGS.

WE TAKE PEOPLE AND GET THEM JOBS.

LIKE I'VE SAID, WE TAKE THEM TO THEIR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS.

WE GET THEM ONE MEDICATION THAT THEY NEED AND HELP THEM GET MEDICAID OR ANYTHING ELSE THEY MIGHT NEED.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WILL DO THAT FOR 'EM.

AND A LOT OF THEM DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.

LIKE WE AS ADDICTS, LOTS OF TIMES HAVE TO RELEARN HOW TO DO EVERYTHING.

BECAUSE FOR SO LONG WE DID EVERYTHING WRONG.

AND WE'LL ADMIT IT TO YOU, LIKE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM ADMITTING TO YOU FOR 20 YEARS OF MY LIFE, AND I'M ONLY 37, I DID EVERYTHING WRONG.

I HAD TO BE TAUGHT BY SOME OF THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND ME HOW TO BE AN ADULT, HOW TO LIVE AGAIN BECAUSE I LOST MY WAY.

BUT IT WAS RECOVERY THAT BROUGHT ME BACK.

AND I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I CHOOSE TO DO WITH MY LIFE.

SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT OVERDOSES.

I WAS AN OVERDOSE.

I GREW UP IN THE VALLEY MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I HAVE SEEN THE DRUGS GO UP IN NOT ONLY WOODSTOCK, WHERE I LIVE IN ALL OF SHEAH VALLEY AND COUNTY AND WARREN COUNTY AND EVERYWHERE.

LIKE I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED OF OVERDOSE.

YOU WANNA KNOW HOW YOU CLEAN UP YOUR DRUG PROBLEMS. YOU OPEN RECOVERY HOUSES, YOU OPEN REHABS.

YOU GIVE THE ADDICT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THEIR LIFE AROUND.

WHEN YOU REJECT THESE THINGS, YOUR PROBLEMS DON'T GO AWAY.

THEY MULTIPLY.

THEY GET WORSE BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.

LIKE IWI WAS TOLD NOT TO COME BACK TO WOODSTOCK, BUT I WANTED TO COME BACK TO MY HOMETOWN AND HELP AND GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE.

AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M HEATHER AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT RECOVERY HOUSING AND THE COALITION.

HEATHER, CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND WHERE YOU LIVE? I'M NOT A TOWN RESIDENT.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CLARK COUNTY.

CLARK.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, SO I'M HERE AND

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TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, UM, I WAS AN ADDICT, AM AN ADDICT FOR 20 YEARS.

UM, I WAS MORALLY BANKRUPT, SPIRITUALLY EMPTY.

I DIDN'T HAVE HOPE AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND I WAS THE PROBLEM.

I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS AN ADDICT, BUT YET I COULDN'T STOP DOING DRUGS.

AND IT WASN'T UNTIL COMING INTO RECOVERY AND RECOVERY HOUSING THAT I LEARNED THAT I WAS THE PROBLEM.

UM, AND I LEARNED THAT I'M AN ADDICT AND I LEARNED HOW TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

AND RECOVERY HOUSING DID THAT FOR ME.

AND FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN RECOVERY HOUSING AND I'VE SEEN MANY, MANY YOUNG LIVES CHANGED AND IT'S A BIG DEAL.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING MS. PRESLEY.

I THINK I STARTED THE RIGHT.

JOHN FOR SOME REASON .

SO IS IT JOHN OR JAMES? IT'S JAMES.

JAMES.

SORRY.

I SO MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY CALL ME DUCK.

YOU CAN CALL ME THAT TOO.

IT'S OKAY.

MY NAME IS JAMES FUNK.

I LIVE AT 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE IN FRONT ROYAL, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY WE WERE HERE FOR LAST YEAR.

I AM A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST FOR THE WARREN COALITION.

AND I ALSO AM THE HOUSE MANAGER OF THE LANDING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT 200 NORTH ROYAL.

YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THESE, I'M ALSO A PERSON IN LONG-TERM RECOVERY.

UM, AND I HAVE DEDICATED MY LIFE TO HELPING OTHER ADDICTS.

UM, WE WERE JUST GOING OVER SOME NUMBERS THE OTHER DAY FROM AUGUST TILL DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE, IN THIS AREA, 45 PEOPLE HAVE WENT TO TREATMENT.

SO THEY GO TO TREATMENT AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING THEM BACK.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE WE DON'T HAVE PLACES FOR THEM TO GO.

MALES AND FEMALES, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE NINE ROOMS AT THE LANDING, BUT THOSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.

SO THEY'RE GOING RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME LIVING SITUATIONS, NO SUPPORT, NOTHING OF THAT NATURE.

AND THEIR SUCCESS IS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDENT UPON THAT LIVING SITUATION.

AND IT'S, IT'S NOT VERY, IT'S NOT WORKING OUT VERY WELL.

THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO OPEN THESE, THIS OTHER HOUSE.

SO WE'LL HAVE MORE ROOM FOR THE MEN THAT ARE COMING BACK AND HAVE A PLACE FOR THE WOMEN THAT ARE COMING.

YOU KNOW, SINCE OPENING THE LANDING, LIKE WE'VE ALSO STARTED WORKING WITH DRUG COURT THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AND SUPPORTING DRUG COURT AND THEIR RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE STIGMATIZING THINGS.

PEOPLE WON'T BE SAFE THAT THE HOUSE IS GONNA LOOK BAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS DROVE BY THE 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.

THESE GENTLEMEN ARE WITH ME THAT LIVE THERE.

LIKE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THAT PROPERTY, BE IN THEIR HOME, BE IN THEIR HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY RESPECTFUL.

WE HAD NEIGHBORS THE LAST TIME THAT HAD PROBLEMS. THOSE NEIGHBORS HAVE SINCE, YOU KNOW, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LIKE, I MEAN, THEY HAVE BROUGHT US FOOD.

WE'VE TAKEN THEM BREAD FOR THEIR CHICKENS.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S NO, THERE'S BEEN NO RIFT WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE ALSO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH PROBATION.

I KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS, HAD ISSUES WITH PROBATION COMING AND BEING, DOING A SEARCH OF OUR HOUSE.

IT'S A COMMON THING.

THEY ARE ON PROBATION THAT THEY DON'T HAVE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

PROBATION CAN COME IN AND SEARCH THEIR LIVING AREA.

I WILL SAY THAT NOTHING WAS FOUND, NO DRUGS WERE FOUND.

NOBODY LEFT TO GO TO JAIL.

THEY FOUND EXACTLY WHAT WE KNEW THEY WOULD FIND.

WE ALSO SET RULES IN PLACE THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE FOR THE OTHER HOUSE, YOU KNOW, TO HELP PEOPLE, TO HELP SUPPORT THEM.

I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT.

PEOPLE HAVE USED AND DIDN'T WANT TO GO GET HELP AND THEN COME BACK.

THEY'VE HAD TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY AND, AND NOT COME BACK.

AND WE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HELD UP FOR OUR WORD ON ALL THOSE THINGS.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.

YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS HOUSE IS TO HELP PEOPLE.

IT'S TO HELP BETTER THEIR COMMUNITY, UM, NOT DAMAGE IT IN ANY WAY.

THEY'RE HELPING ME THINK IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

JAMES OR DOUG, OR JOHN, OR E DOC, DOC ELIJAH, ALEXANDER.

SORRY, I JUST GOT A LITTLE HUMOR WHEN IT GETS THIS LATE.

ELIJAH.

HELLO, MY NAME'S ELIJAH ALEXANDER.

I LIVE ON 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, ALONG WITH JAMES, JOHN DUCK, UH, WHATEVER HIS NAME IS.

THE BEST THING.

THIS PLACE QUITE LITERALLY SAVED MY LIFE.

UM, I'VE BEEN TO TREATMENT TWICE.

THE FIRST TIME I CAME OUTTA TREATMENT, I WENT BACK TO WHERE I WAS LIVING BEFORE, AROUND THE SAME PEOPLE.

AND I WAS ALSO ONE OF THE 10 OVERDOSES.

I WAS FOUND PURPLE.

I WAS NARCAN THREE TIMES.

I HAVE FIVE CHILDREN AND I LOVE MY KIDS DEARLY MORE THAN ANYTHING ON THIS PLANET.

AND, UM, THEY'RE HELPING ME BE WHATEVER NORMAL IS.

I'M FINDING IT.

THEY'RE HELPING ME FIND WORK.

THEY'RE HELPING ME GET BACK TO THE STUFF THAT I USED TO DO AND BE PRODUCTIVE AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T,

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I'M LOOKING AT SITUATIONS IN A WAY WHERE, WITH A PERSPECTIVE THAT I'VE NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE.

AND YOU COULD LITERALLY GOOGLE THIS.

THE OPPOSITE OF ADDICTION IS CONNECTION.

YOU ARE GOING TO BE WHO YOU PUT YOURSELF AROUND.

AND I'M AROUND PEOPLE THAT DO REGULAR.

WE GO BOWLING, WE DON'T BOTHER ANYBODY LIKE, I LOVE IT THERE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AWESOME.

YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK TO MY NORMAL FAMILY THING, I WOULDN'T WANNA BE ANYWHERE ELSE.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR HEARING ME OUT.

MY NAME IS TARA CRAWFORD.

I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF, UM, FRONT ROYAL.

I AM A RESIDENT OF CLARK COUNTY.

UM, I AM ACTUALLY THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DALE RECOVERY CENTER, WHICH IS IN CLARK COUNTY.

AND WE ARE A LONG-TERM TREATMENT CENTER.

UM, I HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS THAT HAVE CAME FROM WARREN COUNTY AND CAME FROM FRONT ROYAL.

UM, MANY CLIENTS WHO I HAVE SENT TO THE LANDING, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WHEN THEY COMPLETE OUR 90 DAY PART OF OUR POR UH, PORTION OF OUR PROGRAM, THEN THEY GO TO A RECOVERY HOUSE LIKE THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

AND, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS.

UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA AT ALL, INCLUDING WINCHESTER.

AND THERE'S FIVE, UM, OXFORD HOUSES IN THE CITY OF WINCHESTER FOR WOMEN.

UM, BUT YOU THINK FIVE HOUSES THAT HOUSE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EIGHT FEMALES, LIKE, IT'S NOT A LOT.

YOU KNOW, AND I HEARD SOMEONE ELSE SAY THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF US, I HAVEN'T MET VERY MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED BY SOMEONE WHO IS IN, UM, IN ADDICTION OR HAS A SUBSTANCE USE, UM, ISSUE OF SOME TYPE.

UM, OR AS AN ALCOHOLIC, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THIS LIFESTYLE.

AND I'M A PERSON OF LONG-TERM RECOVERY AS WELL.

UM, BECAUSE EVERY TIME I MEET SOMEONE, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL, MY FAMILY MEMBER.

OH, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, MY MY FRIEND OR A FRIEND OF A FRIEND OR WHAT, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS DOES, YOU KNOW, TOUCH US ALL IN SOME WAY IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT HAVING THESE HOMES IS A SENSE OF A COMMUNITY.

THAT RECOVERY HAS SAVED MY LIFE, YOU KNOW? AND I NEEDED TO BE SURROUNDED BY THE PEOPLE IN RECOVERY WHO COULD TEACH ME HOW TO THE LIFE SKILLS THAT I NEEDED TO GO FORWARD SO THAT I CAN BE STANDING HERE TODAY TALKING TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT I GOT THAT BY LIVING WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING THROUGH THE SAME ISSUES AS ME BEING TAUGHT BY PEOPLE WHO HAD DONE THIS BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, THEY LAID THE ROAD OUT AND WE FOLLOW.

UM, AND SO I DO THINK THAT THIS IS JUST FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.

I I HOPE THAT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY HOUSE THAT GETS OPENED IN THIS COMMUNITY, IF IT IS.

UM, BUT THE NEED FOR IT IS VERY HIGH.

SO I, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. PRESLEY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? WE, UH, OUR LAST SPEAKER IS KRISTA SHIFFLETT.

GOOD EVENING, DEDICATED PEOPLE.

UM, I'M KRISTA SHIFFLETT AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE WARREN COALITION.

AND THE FIRST THING I WANNA SAY IS, THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT HERE WHO HAD THE COURAGE TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND BE RECORDED AND TELL YOU THEY'RE IN RECOVERY.

BECAUSE PEOPLE JUDGE SO HARD.

I HAVE BEEN PROMISING FOR EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED AT RSW THAT I WOULD DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY GO BACK TO NOTHING.

THAT HOPELESSNESS IS REAL.

YOU BREATHE IT IN.

WHEN YOU WALK IN THAT JAIL, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE, TO SAY, WE SEE YOU WARREN COUNTY, AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE SEEN THIS HOUSE.

WE DRUG TEST PEOPLE.

WE AREN'T PLAYING.

WHEN I CAME BEFORE YOU, BEFORE I RUN A DRUG PREVENTION AGENCY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BRINGING DRUGS INTO WARREN COUNTY.

I'VE DONE THIS WORK FOR 25 YEARS.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE I'VE SEEN DIE.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PARENTS I'VE HAD TO COMFORT AS THEIR KIDS HAVE DIED.

WE NEED TO STAND UP AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE HAD CALLS AT THE OFFICE THAT HAVE SAID, DO YOU KNOW WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS YOU'RE MOVING THIS INTO? ARE YOU AWARE OF THE DRUG TRAFFICKING THAT TAKES PLACE IN THIS AREA, FOLKS? I HAD AN OFFICE IN THE GREENHOUSE THAT IS NOW A SPA.

YES, I'M AWARE.

IT WAS BROKEN INTO OUR OFFICE WAS BROKEN INTO CAMEL GALLES ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED THE PERPETRATOR, UM, BUT WAS NEVER CAUGHT.

WE HAD SYRINGES LAYING ACROSS OUR WALK, POINTING TO THE DRIVEWAY AT THE ROYAL INN BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING A CEREMONY FOR AN OVERDOSE DEATH IN THAT PARKING LOT.

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AM AWARE.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE DEDICATED AND COMMITTED TO THE PEOPLE IN OUR HOUSE.

WE WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO TRY TO HELP THEM STAY WELL.

AND IF THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO SEND THEM AWAY TO KEEP THE REST OF THEM, WELL, WE WILL.

I ADORE JAMES DUNK DUCK FUNKHOUSER.

HE IS SPECTACULAR.

THE COUNTY COULD NOT BE BLESSED WITH BETTER, AND THAT IS THE HONEST TRUTH.

I HAVE TO BEG HIM NOT TO WORK 24 HOURS A DAY.

WE ARE IN GOOD HANDS AND WE WILL BE EQUALLY IN GOOD HANDS.

IF THIS HOUSE IS PASSED, WE WILL MOVE THE MEN'S HOUSE TO IT SO WE HAVE MORE ROOMS. AND THE LANDING WILL BECOME A SPACE FOR FEMALES THAT I HAVE.

FEMALES, EVERY TIME I GO INTO THERE, THEY'LL SAY, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET A HOUSE OPEN? WE REALLY NEED A PLACE TO GO.

WE NEED SOME PLACE SAFE.

WE'RE FROM WARREN COUNTY AND WE DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GO.

I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

IT'S NOT OKAY TO THROW PEOPLE AWAY.

SO I ASK YOU, PLEASE APPROVE THIS HOUSING SHOW THAT YOU ACTUALLY DO.

IN FACT, SEE EVERYONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MS. SCHIFFLI.

MS. PRESLEY, I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT WAS THE LAST PERSON SIGNED UP.

LAST ONE SIGNED UP.

SO NOW AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? YES.

MY NAME IS PHILIP VAUGHT.

I LIVE ON HARMONY HOLLOW ROAD, UH, WHICH IS IN THE COUNTY.

BUT THOSE THAT KNOW ME KNOW THAT I CARE ABOUT THIS TOWN, THAT I CARE ABOUT IT DEEPLY, THAT I CARE ABOUT ITS PEOPLE, ITS BUILDINGS.

AND I CARE ABOUT OUR GATEWAY.

LIKE MOST OF US HERE THIS EVENING.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE WARREN COALITION'S APPLICATION, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY TOWN PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND UNANIMOUSLY BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE PROGRAM KNOWN AS THE LANDING AT 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, AND ALSO REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS.

THE PROGRAM AT THE LANDING HAS BEEN A SUCCESS, HAVING ESTABLISHED A RECORD OF RESPONSIBLE TENANTS WHO ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES.

AND IN DOING SO, THEIR COMMUNITY ACROSS THE BOARD, THE LANDING PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN REGARDED AS GOOD NEIGHBORS, AS NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS WILL ATTEST.

THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN SUCH A SUCCESS STORY THAT IS NOW EXPANDING.

IT IS NOW EXPANDING TO OFFER THESE SERVICES FOR WOMEN.

WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT FRONT ROYAL NEEDS.

I CAN THINK OF NOTHING THAT WE NEED MORE THAN THE RESOURCES FOR THE RECOVERY FROM SUBSTANCE MISUSE.

THESE PARTICIPANTS ARE ALSO WORKING ON PERMANENT HOUSING AND JOB PLACEMENT.

OTHER COMMUNITIES OUR SIZE HAVE SEVERAL SUCH FACILITIES.

AND SO THIS IS LONGER OVERDUE AND MUCH NEEDED, ESPECIALLY AS NORTHWESTERN COMMUNITY SERVICES IS NO LONGER TO OPERATE AT 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, WHICH IS WHEN THE WARREN COALITION PICKED UP THE TORCH TO CARRY ON THIS PROGRAM.

SO SINCE NORTHWESTERN CLOSED ITS FACILITY, THE COALITION IS THE ONLY SAFETY NET IN THE COMMUNITY OFFERING A RESIDENTIAL RECOVERY HOUSING FACILITY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK TO A FEW OF THE NEGATIVE FEARS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD FROM IN LETTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY UNFOUNDED.

THERE ARE NO FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS, THAT THIS WILL HAVE A DELETERIOUS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ON OUR GATEWAY, OR ON PROPERTY VALUES.

SO FAR, THE ONLY NAYSAYERS I HAVE HEARD FROM ARE THE ONES DOING SO OUT OF SELF-SERVING INTEREST, NOT A GENUINE CONCERN FOR BUILDING THIS COMMUNITY.

LET'S INSTEAD CONCENTRATE ON FACTS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BUILDING COMMUNITY AND FRONT ROYAL FOR THE BETTER.

THANK YOU, PHIL.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TONIGHT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? NO.

AND TWO, APPLICANT TO PROVIDE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE 10 SPACES PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE USE.

UM, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM MAYOR.

YES, GO AHEAD.

I WAS GONNA DO A MOTION, BUT I'VE I'VE BARELY PUT THE CAPITAL DOWN.

GO AHEAD.

NO, I WAS GONNA NOT CONTINUING THOUGH.

SO DO YOU NEED TO ASK FOR A MOTION? UH, YES.

AND FURTHERANCE OF THE PURPOSES AND OBJECTIVES CONTAINED IN TOWN CODE 1 75 DASH ONE BI MOVE THAT COUNSEL APPROVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO THE WARREN COALITION FOR A LODGING HOUSE APARTMENT AT 5 0 1 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE TAX MAP, TWO 20 A SEVEN DASH EIGHT DASH ONE CONTINGENT UPON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS ARE UNITS SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT

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OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO NOW WE'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I DO.

MR. OH, I WANTED TO MAYOR, OH, GO AHEAD.

UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD, AND I I BELIEVE THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, UH, IN THE BACK, UH, UH, IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, WILL BE USED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION AS AS WELL.

UH, STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT, WILL STAFF BE CORRECT? CAN STAFF CONFIRM WHAT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR? SO THE APARTMENT IN THE BACK IN THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS PART OF THE APPLICATION AND THE CURRENT PARKING CALCULATION HAS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT, THAT STRUCTURE A, A RESIDENCE GOING TO LIVE THERE, OR WILL THAT BE MY UNDERSTANDING IS A RESIDENT WILL NOT BE LIVING IN THAT.

IT'S, UH, SO, UM, STAFF, OKAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

SO, MS. CAPISH? MM-HMM.

, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.

JUST, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH OTHERS IN THE BACK OR SUGGESTING AS NO.

SO COULD WE, SINCE THAT'S A QUESTION, COULD WE, THE RESIDENT WON'T LIVE THERE.

IT'LL BE THE DUCK HOUSE.

I'LL LIVE.

THAT'S, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT SOME, I DIDN'T WANNA DISCLOSE HIS PERSONAL INFORMATION.

OH, NO, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT WAS, THAT'S, UH, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD THAT QUESTION TOO.

SO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULD ACTUALLY BE FOR A SUPERVISOR OR A DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSE? YES.

THAT, THAT WAS A QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING, THATAM.

I'M SORRY YOU HAVE TO CLARIFY.

BUT ANYWAY, COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM.

COUNCILMAN INGRAM, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE NONE AT THIS POINT.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST COMMENTS.

I SAW A LOT OF YOU GUYS WHEN WE VOTED FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE LANDING.

UM, AND, UH, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR SO BOLDLY COMING AND STANDING BEFORE US AND SHARING THE MOST VULNERABLE MOMENT MOMENTS OF YOUR LIFE WITH US TO MAKE A POINT.

AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR ANY OF THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE, BUT NOT IN THEIR BACKYARD.

AND, UM, YOU GUYS, WE SEE YOU AND YOU HAVE A HOME HERE, AND YOU'RE LOVED AND VALUED, UM, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PAST TRIALS OR TRIBULATIONS OR CURRENT ARE.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN REGARDS TO SOME CONCERNS THAT I'VE RECEIVED ABOUT THE GATEWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO'S EVER WATCHED A COUNCIL MEETING OR SAT ON THIS D WITH ME, KNOWS THAT I BELIEVE IN PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS.

UM, WHO AM I TO SAY WHAT THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD OR LOCATION FOR, UH, HOUSING IS? UM, FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T WATCH THE WORK SESSION, I ADDRESSED THIS IN GREAT DEPTH.

I COULD OPEN MY HOUSE UP TO RECOVERING INDIVIDUALS WITH NO PERMIT NECESSARY AND NOBODY WOULD EVEN KNOW, AND THERE WOULD BE NO JURISDICTION OVER IT.

SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE ENTRY CORRIDOR OR THE GATEWAYS, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO LIVES IN THE HOUSES BESIDE YOU OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.

IF THEY'RE NOT CAUSING US HARM AND THEY'RE NOT AN ISSUE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND HAZARD OF THE COMMUNITY, THEN THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

AND I HAVE BEEN BY THE LANDING AND IT LOOKS FANTASTIC.

IT'S VERY WELL MAINTAINED.

AND, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THIS INITIATIVE.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE THROUGH THOSE REALLY LONG PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE YOURS TO SHOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS TO YOU.

, VICE MAYOR SILAC? NO.

NOPE.

COUNCILMAN WOOD.

I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY COULD SAY IT BETTER THAN COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS.

COUNCILWOMAN DEE DOMINICAN PAIN.

NOW YOU REALLY PUT, YOU'RE ON THE SPOT.

OH, I KNOW.

I, UM, I WANTED TO REITERATE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME FORWARD AND SHARE.

I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A HARD AND A BRAVE THING TO DO.

UM, I DID WANNA SAY THAT IN A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION I HAD ASKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY YOU WERE GOING INTO, AND THEN PART OF IT WAS BECAUSE I KNEW ABOUT THAT BREAK IN AND I WAS WONDERING HOW SAFE YOU WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GOING THERE AT THIS TIME.

SO, UM, BUT I DO, I WANNA REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC THAT AS WE GO AROUND OUR TOWN, YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THAT THAT'S ON THE GATEWAY TO THE, THE SHENANDOAH NATIONAL PARK AND THAT SORT OF THING.

NOBODY'S GONNA KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT HOUSE OR ANY OTHER HOUSE THAT'S THERE.

IT'S A BIG, BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPURPOSED FOR A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY CAUSE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE WANT TO DO IN THIS COMMUNITY, RATHER THAN SEE PEOPLE OUT HOMELESS OR ON DRUGS IN

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OUR STREETS.

UM, THAT MAKES, UH, UM, I, I GUESS THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO SAY, WE TALK SO MUCH ABOUT, UM, OUR COMMUNITY CHARM, SMALL TOWN CHARM.

OUR SMALL TOWN CHARM IS NOT ABOUT THE LITTLE NICE LITTLE HOUSES THAT WE MAKE OR THE, UM, THE LITTLE SHOPKEEPERS WHO COME OUT AND BE FRIENDLY.

IT'S HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER.

AND THAT'S THE CHARM.

THE CHARM IS BUILDING EACH OTHER UP.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS.

ANYONE ELSE? I JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.

UH, MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, YOU MAY, I'M JUST GONNA GET ON BOARD WITH EVERYONE ELSE HERE.

IT'S NEEDED, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MR. MCGEE'S POINT ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE, THEY JUST WANT TO GET ON THE GOOD FOOT.

AND, UH, WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE SITUATION INSTEAD OF EXASPERATING THE SITUATION.

AND, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, A GREAT IDEA.

THANK, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

UM, BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I ACTUALLY, UH, SERVE ON THE, UM, I REPRESENT THE TOWN ON, UH, THE WARREN COUNTY DRUG COURT, THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE.

UM, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED.

I THINK MS. SHIFFLET SPOKE ABOUT THAT AND SOMEBODY ELSE DID TOO, ABOUT, UM, HOW THIS PLAYS A ROLE IN, IN, IN THAT PROCESS.

UM, AND I CAN'T SAY IT ANY BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE DID.

I, I WILL SAY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OUT OF 10 PEOPLE, UH, IN YOUR FAMILY, OR, OR, OR PEOPLE YOU KNOW.

AND, AND SADLY I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, THAT I, I KNOW MORE THAN ONE THAT NOT ONLY HAVE SUFFERED WITH ADDICTION, BUT SOME WHO'VE LOST THE, LOST THE, LOST THE FIGHT.

UM, AND I, I, ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT'S ON MY HEART THAT I REALLY WISH THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD'VE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR HIM.

UM, SO ANYWAY, MS. PRESLEY ON A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

VICE MAYOR LOC.

COUNCILWOMAN D DEMON PAYNE? YES.

UM, WE ARE NOW MOVING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND, UM, I CAN GIVE MY WHOLE LIKE, DIRECTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT HONESTLY, IF NOBODY'S SIGNED UP, FORSAKE, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP? WE HAVE ONE SIGNED UP, BUT I DON'T SEE HER.

MELANIE SALAND.

MELANIE LEFT.

IT'S THE ONLY ONE I HAD SIGNED UP.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? BECAUSE I'M GONNA SAVE THIS LONG THING I HAVE TO SAY.

IF NOT, GOOD DEAL.

NO.

YEAH, I'M NOT, NO, I'M JUST SAYING WE NO NEED TO.

I DON'T WANNA DISCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE MOVING ON THEN.

REPORTS

[9.A. Report of Town Manager]

OF THE TOWN MANAGER.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO FOREGO MY REPORT TONIGHT IN RESPECT TO TIME.

SORRY THAT THE REST OF US MAY NOT, BUT ANYWAY, REPORT

[9.B. Report of Councilmembers]

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I THINK I HAVE OUTTA MAYOR IS I WANNA THANK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE JOB THEY DID WITH THE ICE AND THE SNOW.

UM, I THINK THEY DID A, PROBABLY A BETTER JOB THIS TIME.

IT LOOKS LOOKING THE CAMERAS AND THINGS AROUND.

I, I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE ROW HERE.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN D DOMENICO PAY, UM, I'LL BE QUICK.

I, UM, ATTENDED OF COURSE THE LIAISON COMMITTEE, UM, THE VML ELECTED OFFICIALS CONFERENCE VIRTUALLY AND MET AND TALKED WITH VARIOUS CONSTITUENTS REGARDING COMMUNITY ISSUES.

AND, UM, I CONTINUE TO BE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AND BE ABLE TO SERVE AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ALL CONTINUING TO BRING FEEDBACK TO US.

AFTER DISCUSSING THIS WITH ALL FELLOW COMMISSIONERS EXCEPT MR. MATTHEW, WHO'S ONLY BEEN THERE TWO MONTHS AND RECEIVING THEIR SUPPORT, I DECIDED TO OFFER MY 10 YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE BY SERVING OUT THIS TERM AND GIVING THE TOWN A BETTER RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IN ME AS THE COMMISSIONER, I PROMISED TO STUDY ALL CONCERNS BROUGHT BEFORE US, PERFORM SITE VISITS, RESEARCH, LISTEN TO STAFF, APPLICANT REPORTS, ASK QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC INPUT AND MAKING DECISIONS.

COUNCILMAN WOOD.

YES, TINA, PLEASE READ THIS INTO THE RECORD FOR TONIGHT.

MADAM MAYOR, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE RECENT INTEREST SEEMS TO BE CONTINUED IN ME SERVING OUT MY TERM ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER BEING ELECTED TO COUNT COUNCIL AS WE KNOW OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, MR. SO STATED, VIRGINIA CODE 15.22212 ALLOWS ONE MEMBER TO SERVE ON BOTH BOARDS.

LAST SUMMER, I COMPLETED CERTIFICATION CLASS FOR COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE COST WELL OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THE TOWN EXPENSE, AS WELL AS FOUR DAYS OF MY LIFE.

MY TERM ON THE COMMISSION EXPIRES THIS AUGUST.

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AND AS WE'VE LEARNED THIS WEEK, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE TO SERVING DUAL CAPACITIES PER THE ARTICLE IN THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY THE OTHER DAY.

SO THIS IS NOT ALL THAT UNUSUAL.

I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, SINCE THE REZONING REQUEST BY MR. SER, THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON ALL ISSUES BROUGHT BEFORE IT OTHER THAN ONE ABSTENTION ON A VOTE FOR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.

TO THINK THAT I EXERT ANY INFLUENCE OVER THE COMMISSION IS JUST NOT TRUE.

AS A TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER, I AM AWARE THAT MORE INFORMATION IS USUALLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THAN WAS TO THE PC.

AND THE PUBLIC INPUT PUT CAN BE GREATLY, UH, UH, GREAT, ESPECIALLY AND CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES.

ONCE AGAIN, I'LL LISTEN ALL INPUT INFORMATION PROVIDED BEFORE REACHING MY DECISION.

I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.

THE ONLY PROPERTY I OWN TOWN OR IN THE COUNTY IS OUR HOME.

I PLAN TO COMPLETE MY TERM BY SERVING ALL CITIZENS FAITHFULLY AND HONESTLY AS YOUR PUBLIC SERVANT.

RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT IT TODAY.

1 22 23.

THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS.

I WILL MAKE EVERYBODY HERE VERY HAPPY AND FOREGO MY COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT TONIGHT.

COUNCILMAN INGRAM.

UH, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, AS COUNCIL, OR AS VICE MAYOR LOC SAID ABOUT THE, UH, SNOW REMOVAL, UH, HATS OFF TO THOSE GUYS, UH, FOR ALL THE EFFORT THEY PUT IN THIS PAST WEEKEND.

UH, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD A NOTE REAL QUICK THAT I DID ATTEND THE FIREMAN'S BANQUET DINNER, UH, THIS PAST, UH, THIS PAST WEEKEND, ALONG WITH, UH, MAD MAYOR AND ALSO, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCILMAN NOW WOOD, UM, THE, UH, DESPITE THE FRIGID, UH, TEMPERATURES AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND IT WAS GOOD TO, UH, SEE THOSE GUYS GET RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR EFFORTS THAT THEY KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

AND, UH, I REALLY ENJOYED THE COMRADERY.

SO I JUST MORNING, SAY THANKS TO, UH, EVERYONE WHO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

CA COUNCILMAN RAPPAPORT.

I'LL BE REALLY SHORT TONIGHT.

I WON'T BE, BUT GO AHEAD.

UH, BUT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I DID ATTEND THE VIRTUAL VML CONFERENCES, WELL AS, UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD, UH, INGRAM AND DEMON PAYNE, UH, VIRTUALLY.

UH, THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO, UH, UH, TELL EVERYBODY THAT THE, UH, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, OUR OFFICERS ARE WELL TRAINED.

AND I CAN TELL YOU BY EXPERIENCE, UM, SATURDAY NIGHT I WAS DRIVING DOWN, UH, MAIN STREET AND I PULLED OVER AND I, UH, I, I HAD TO GET SOMETHING OUTTA MY TRUNK.

SO I GOT, I GOT, I GOT IT OUTTA OUTTA MY, UH, HATCHBACK TRUNK, BROUGHT IT UP TO THE FRONT OF THE CAR, AND I'M DRIVING DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, COMMERCE AVENUE.

AND I LOOK BOTH WAYS.

I MAKE MY RIGHT GO DOWN TO GET SOME GAS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BLUE LIGHTS COME ON, .

I SAID, WELL, I WAS COMING FROM MY HOUSE.

IT SHOULD NOT THAT, THAT HARD.

YEAH, I THINK MR. ACH KNOWS THE STORY HERE.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY, SO THE BLUE LIGHTS COME ON.

I GET PULLED OVER AT, UH, PROSPECT, PROSPECT AND, UH, I'M GOING LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD DID I DO WRONG? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IN A HONDA FIT, YOU KNOW, HOW FAST CAN YOU DROP ? SO ANYWAY, THE OFFICER, THE OFFICER COMES UP TO ME AND HE, I HAVE MY WINDOW UP 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE FREEZING OUTSIDE, KNOCKS ON THE, ON THE WINDOW.

I GO LIKE, OKAY, ROLL IT DOWN.

MY HANDS ARE ON THE WHEEL.

ALRIGHT, ROLLING DOWN.

AND, UH, HE SAYS, UM, WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU FROM? ? AND, UH,

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AND HE SAYS, UM, WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHY I STOPPED YOU TONIGHT? I SAID, NO, OFFICER.

HE SAYS, WELL, YOUR HEADLIGHTS WEREN'T ON.

UH, THE SNOW AND THE BRIGHT LIGHTS ON MAIN STREET CAUSED ME NOT TO HAVE MY LIGHTS ON.

I GOT RUNNING LIGHTS ON, BUT DON'T, DON'T HAVE LIGHTS.

SO ANYWAY, HE ASKED ME, HE, HE, YOU KNOW, HE TREATS ME JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

HE ASKED ME, HE SAYS, UH, I GO TO HIM.

I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, OH, BY THE WAY, MY DRIVER'S LICENSE, UH, SAYS THAT, UH, I LIVE IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, BUT I HAVE PROOF THAT I'M A, A TOWN RESIDENT BECAUSE THEY, THEY GIVE YOU, THEY GIVE YOU, UH, JUST A CHANGE OF ADDRESS WHEN YOU, YOU COME BACK.

AND, UH, I SAID, I RAN FOR COUNCIL.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE KNEW I WAS ON THE COUNCIL .

SO, SO ANYWAY, TO MAKE, TO MAKE, TO MAKE THIS THING REALLY SHORTER, UM, IS HE ASKED FOR MY DRIVER'S LICENSE.

I GAVE HIM EVERYTHING, MY REGISTRATION, AND HE SAYS, IF EVERYTHING'S CHECKED, CHECKS OUT, I'LL COME BACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU A WARNING.

AND EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT.

AND HE GAVE ME A WARNING.

WOULD YOU BE GRATEFUL IF IT WAS MORE THAN THE WARNING ? SO, OH, I THINK I SAID TO HIM BEFORE HE WENT BACK, I SAID, OFFICER, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA GIVE ME A TICKET, ARE YOU? ? BUT YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

UH, CHIEF , UH, YOU GOT 'EM WELL TRAINED.

, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

I'M WARNING TO CITIZENS IF IT'S BRIGHT LIGHTS AND SNOW, MAKE SURE YOUR LIGHTS ARE ON.

THE REPORT OF THE MAYOR, AND IT'S LONG, SORRY.

HEY, HEY, I, I, IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, 'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I GOT PULLED OVER FOR THE SAME THING.

I THOUGHT MY LIGHTS WERE ON.

THE BYPASS WAS SO BRIGHT, I DIDN'T EVER ALRIGHT, VICE MAYOR .

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, BUT THERE YOU GO.

I DO WANNA SAY, SINCE JOSH BROUGHT IT UP, I DIDN'T, DIDN'T MAKE THE FARMER'S BANQUET, BUT, UM, THEY GIVE OUT THE, UH, EVERY YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'ALL REALIZE THEY RECOGNIZE, UH, A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEERS AND A LOT OF THE CAREER STAFF, UH, THAT ARE OUT THERE.

UM, IF YOU SEE THESE GUYS OUT ON THE SCENE OR SOMETHING, PLEASE STOP AND TELL 'EM THANK YOU.

UH, I KNOW.

AND YES, I'LL, I'LL BRAG FOR ONE SECOND.

UH, MY GREAT NEPHEW JUST STARTED THE FIRE SERVICE AS A CAREER PERSON, BUT NOW HE IS A, HE WAS A VOLUNTEER BEFORE AND HE WAS GIVEN THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR AT THE FRONT ROYAL FIREMAN'S BANKER, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY NICE THAT THEY'RE RECOGNIZING THE YOUNG PEOPLE NOW.

SO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[9.C. Report of the Mayor]

UM, I GUESS THAT'S JUST SO BUSY HERE.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN SIX WEEKS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

I, I THINK ALL OF US HERE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY SOME FAMILY TIME OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND LOOK FORWARD TO A NEW YEAR TOGETHER, REPRESENTING OUR CITIZENS AND WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE FRONT ROW A GREAT, GREAT PLACE TO WORK, LIVE AND RAISE OUR FAMILIES.

DECEMBER 20TH, I ACTUALLY WAS INVITED TO ATTEND A CHRISTMAS PARTY AT COMMONWEALTH ASSISTED LIVING.

UH, AND TO READ TOWARDS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, I, I WAS ACCOMPANIED, OR MAYBE I REALLY SHOULD SAY THAT I ACCOMPANIED, UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN READING THE STORY.

SHE HAD MEMORIZED IT.

AND SO, UH, SHE ASKED THAT.

THEY ASKED IF SHE COULD HELP ME.

UM, I ACTUALLY JUST HELD THE BOOK AND TURNED THE PAGES.

UH, SHE DID ALL THE HARD WORK.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT FACILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO CARE FOR OUR SENIOR POPULATION.

UM, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THOSE CAREGIVERS WHO LOVE THEIR RESIDENTS AND GIVE THEM THE SECURITY AND COMFORT THEY NEED AT THAT STAGE OF THEIR LIFE.

'CAUSE EVENTUALLY, WE, WELL, NOT EVENTUALLY, WE ALL HOPE WE MAKE IT TO THAT STAGE OF OUR LIFE.

I GUESS JANUARY 10TH, UH, ATTENDED THE WARREN COUNTY DRUG COURT MEETING.

UM, IT DOES SOUND LIKE FROM THE REPORTS THAT I HEARD, THAT THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL PROCESS TO HELP THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM ADDICTION.

UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S IT BEING, UH, PART OF THE DRUG COURT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A PASS ON A DRUG OR A SUBSTANCE USE RELATED CHARGE.

THE PARTICIPANTS ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT PHASES OF TREATMENT AND PROOF OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE COURTS TO LIVE A DRUG FREE LIFE.

UM, AND I, I ANTICIPATE THAT AS THEY HAVE FOLKS WHO GRADUATE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM THAT WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT IN, UM, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO JANUARY 11TH, UH,

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I, ALONG WITH ACTUALLY COUNCILMAN BRUCE RAPPAPORT ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE NORTHERN SHINDO VALLEY'S STARS EVENT.

UH, JOYCE AND JOHN MARLOWE WERE THE RECIPIENTS OF THIS YEAR'S AWARD.

UM, IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENING IN CELEBRATING TWO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE DEDICATION AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT THEY'VE MADE.

JOHN, ALTHOUGH I ACTUALLY CALL HIM MR. MARLOWE, WAS A FORMER MAYOR FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

AND HE ACTUALLY SERVED WHEN THE AVTEX PLANT CLOSED, WHICH FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CHALLENGING TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

MR. MARLOW, UM, SHARED DURING HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEECH THAT HE FRAMED ALL OF HIS DECISIONS WHILE SERVING WITH IS THIS WHAT'S GOOD FOR FRONT ROYAL? AND THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME THAT I ACTUALLY GARNERED ADVICE FOR MR. MARLOW.

WHEN I WAS FIRST APPOINTED TO COUNSEL, I RAN INTO HIM IN THE GROCERY STORE AND HE CONGRATULATED ME AND HE SHARED WITH ME THAT WHEN VOTING ON ISSUES BEFORE COUNSEL, THE NEXT MORNING WHEN HE WOKE UP, HE WANTED TO LOOK AT HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR AND KNOW HE COULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE DECISION HE MADE.

AND I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN THAT.

AND, UM, HIS IS THIS, WHAT'S GOOD FOR FRONT ROYAL WILL, UH, GUIDE ME AS I CONTINUE TO SERVE.

JANUARY 14TH, I ATTENDED THE SWEARING IN OF VIRGINIA HOUSE OF DELEGATES, DOLORES OATS, WHO'S REPRESENTING THE 31ST DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND MOST OF WARREN COUNTY.

UM, I BELIEVE DELEGATE OATS WILL FIGHT FOR OUR CITIZENS IN THE VALLEY AS WELL AS ALL VIRGINIANS.

SOMETIMES WE GET CAUGHT UP IN WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SEE ON THE TV OR WE SEE CLOSELY WHAT'S GOING ON AT OUR LOCAL LEVEL.

BUT REMEMBER THERE ARE 132 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN RICHMOND AFFECTS OUR DAILY LIVES AS WELL.

UH, JANUARY 15TH, I STOPPED BY THE OPEN HOUSE AT THE RAYMOND E ST.

MEYERS STUDENT UNION ACTIVITY CENTER.

I WAS GIVEN A TOUR OF THE BUILDING AND WAS ABLE TO SEE WHAT RENOVATIONS HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED AND HEARD ABOUT THOSE PLANNED.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN AMAZING SPACE FOR THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE STILL SEEKING DONATIONS AND NOT JUST IN THE FORM OF CASH OR CHECK, WHICH I'M SURE THEY WOULD ALSO WELCOME.

BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A WISHLIST THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE BOARD GAMES, ART SUPPLIES, BIG TICKET ITEMS, LIKE A PING PONG TABLE, VIDEO GAMING SYSTEMS. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALL AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE THROUGH AMAZON.

UM, THEY HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE WITH THE AMAZON WISHLIST LINKED.

IF YOU FEEL THIS PROJECT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO JANUARY 20TH, COUNCILMAN INGRAM, UH, WOOD AND MYSELF ATTENDED THE FRONT ROW VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT.

I'VE ACTUALLY ATTENDED SEVERAL TIMES AND I'M ALWAYS IN AWE OF THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE AMOUNT OF HOURS AND YEARS.

UM, 'CAUSE THEY, THEY GIVE AWARDS BY THE YEARS AND I'M PRETTY SURE SOMEBODY WAS 45 YEARS.

WASN'T IT LIKE 45? 45, 45 60 YEARS.

THERE WAS A 60 YEAR, 60 YEAR OF UH, PAUSE ONE SECOND.

MAKE A NOTE THAT LAST YEAR OUR VICE MAYOR WAS RECOGNIZED FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

YOU TELLING THE OLD MEN.

IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION THERE? THERE ARE FIVE ITEMS THERE, BUT MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

SO, UH, THANK YOU TO THE MEN AND WOMEN AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE AS YOU MENTIONED, WHO ACTUALLY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT.

I CANNOT FINISH THIS REPORT WITHOUT THANKING ALL OF OUR TOWN STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK OVER THE LAST WEEK DURING THE SNOW AND ICE EVENTS THAT ALSO LEFT US WITH THESE FRIGID TEMPERATURES.

UH, NOT ONLY DID THEY SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS CLEARING ROADS TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE AS THEY TRAVELED, BUT THEN THE WATER MAIN BREAKS STARTED, WHICH I THINK, I THINK AS OF TODAY THERE WERE SIX, RIGHT? MR. WALTZ, I BELIEVE IT WAS THIS SIX TOTAL OR CORRECT? WE HAD SIX YESTERDAY.

I THINK WE HAVE THREE.

ONE CURRENT STILL RIGHT NOW.

AH, OKAY.

UH, SO THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY TAKE FOR GRANTED, LIKE CLEAR AND SAFE ROADS AND TURNING ON A FAUCET FOR WATER AND FLIPPING A SWITCH FOR ELECTRICITY TAKES ALL OF THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK TIRE TIRELESSLY FOR OUR TOWN CITIZENS.

AND WHILE, UH, WE MIGHT BE HOME UNDER OUR BLANKETS, THEY ARE OUT THERE BRAVING THE SNOW AND COLD.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR TOWN STAFF WHO HELPED US WEATHER THE LAST WEEK.

SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.

I ACTUALLY ROLLED UP INTO SEVEN 11 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT I HAVE TO HAVE THIS ON A DAILY BASIS AND I, I HAD JUST SHOVELED EVERYTHING AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ALLEN PACK WAS THERE AT SEVEN 11 GETTING A COFFEE.

AND I HAD SAID, I WISH I HAD, I WISH I'D GOTTEN HERE BEFORE HE WAS LEAVING.

I WOULD'VE BOUGHT HIM A COFFEE.

AND I SAID, I BET YOU'VE HAD A BUSY DAY.

AND THIS WAS LITERALLY LIKE FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.

HE SAID, I STARTED AT MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE DEVOTION WE HAVE OF OUR TOWN STAFF.

UM, NEXT UP

[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM]

EXACTLY.

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ANY DISCUSSION, AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY ON HERE WOULD SAY THERE'S LOTS OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE COULD DISCUSS, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE'RE WE'RE, UM, GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL MS. PRESS.

VICE MAYOR SLO? YES.

COUNCILMAN MORRIS.

COUNCILMAN DE DAMON PAYNE? YES.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS ONE BUSINESS ITEM, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR REACHING OUT NOW FOR THE OPERATION OF THE ST.

ALRIGHT,

[11.A. Resolution of Financial Support for Reaching Out Now, Inc. (“Resolution”) for the Operation of the Santmyers Student Union and Leadership Center, a Revitalization of the Former Raymond E. Santmyers Youth Center, Located at 200 E. 8th Street. ]

MYERS STUDENT UNION AND LEADERSHIP CENTER.

NOW, UM, I, I KNOW EARLIER TODAY WE, UM, GOT AN EMAIL.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE STUDENT UNION AND ACTIVITIES CENTER, CORRECT? MM-HMM.

THAT'S, I I THOUGHT THAT I, I TOOK LEADERSHIP FROM, UH, THE COUNTY LEASE WITH RON.

UM, I UNDERSTAND.

I GOT YOU.

AND, AND THEN CLEARED THAT UP.

BUT, BUT IT, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

IT IS THE RAYMOND E ST.

MY STUDENT UNION AND ACTIVITY CENTER.

UM, UH, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE SIGN OUTSIDE.

THAT WAS CONFIRMED BY MRS. BARBER.

I'M SORRY, MS. BARBER CONFIRMED RIGHT.

IT'S, UM, ACTIVITY CENTER.

SO I'LL GO REAL QUICK HERE.

THE SUMMARY IS COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATED 5 0 1 C3 TAX EXEMPT NONPROFIT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDING TO REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATED TO APPROPRIATE AND DONATE FUNDING TO REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATE EXCLUSIVELY IN SUPPORT OF REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATES UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, WHICH BOTH ADVANCES REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATED ITS MISSION AND ACHIEVES THE STATED PURPOSE ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESUMING OPERATIONS OF A RECREATIONAL USE CENTER AT THE COUNTY OWNED BUILDING LOCATED AT 200 EAST EIGHTH STREET, AND FOR THE COUNTY'S RECOMMITMENT TO OPERATE A RECREATIONAL FACILITY AT THE PROPERTY COUNSEL RECEIVED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC DURING A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 28TH REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM REACHING OUT NOW.

UM, SO I, UM, I LET ME, I JUST WANNA, YEAH.

I, UNLESS ANYBODY IS ABSOLUTELY FORCEFUL, I I WILL, I'M NOT GONNA READ THE RESOLUTION.

IT WAS IN OUR PACKET.

I MEAN, ALL OF COUNCIL YEARS AWARE PUBLIC COULD SEE IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, DOES ANYBODY OBJECT TO ME NOT READING THE RESOLUTION OUT LOUD? EVERYBODY HERE IS AWARE OF IT.

UM, WOULD ANYBODY, UM, LIKE TO, DOES ANYBODY I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAD MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATED, HAS PRESENTED WITH THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE RESOLUTION ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ARE WE GONNA DO OKAY, THE RESOLUTION? UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED, I I I CAN, UM, I COULD READ THAT PARAGRAPH NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL DOES HEREBY APPROPRIATE AND DONATE $25,000 TO REACHING OUT NOW INCORPORATED EXCLUSIVELY AND SUPPORTING OUT, REACHING OUT NOW IS UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND BOTH.

AND I CAN GO ON AND, UM, THE MM-HMM, THE RESOLUTION ALSO TALKS ABOUT, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, THE RESOLUTION TALKS ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE VOLUNTARY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, ABOUT THE DEED, UM, AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, THE PUBLIC IS AWARE.

AND SO, UM, YEAH, SO I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS? I'M SORRY.

IS THIS IS, UM, THIS IS NOT OUR ROUTINE TO PROVIDE OR ALLOCATE MONEY FOR, UH, NONPROFITS.

YEAH, SURE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WHILE I THINK, UH, THE CONSENSUS ENTIRELY AND UNANIMOUSLY OF THE COUNCIL IS IN SUPPORT OF SUPPORTING REACHING OUT NOW AND THE YOUTH IN FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY, UM, AS I AM AS WELL, WE DON'T TYPICALLY MAKE, UM, FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO NONPROFITS.

THIS IS A UNIQUE, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE COUNTY IS IN CONTROL OF THE YOUTH AND THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH REACHING OUT NOW.

SO, UM, THE TOWN DOESN'T TYPICALLY ALLOCATE FUNDS TO NONPROFITS.

UM, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO FOR ANYBODY WISH TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION? I, I FEEL LIKE WE CERTAINLY HAVE DISCUSSED ENOUGH.

I THINK COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS, UM, REALLY KINDA SUMMARIZED IT PERFECTLY THAT EVERYBODY UP HERE CERTAINLY SEES THE VALUE OF PROVIDING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH.

UM, BUT AS, AS SHE STATED, WE GENERALLY

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SO, UH, ANYBODY ELSE? YES, MADAM MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE IT'S A COMMUNITY, IT'S A COMM, A COMMUNITY, UH, PROJECT.

AND, UH, IN THE LONG RUN, THE, THE, THE PLAN, THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS TO, TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP THESE KIDS STRAIGHT AND THEY FOLLOW A PATH OF, OF BECOMING GOOD CITIZENS.

AND I THINK THAT THIS, THIS WILL HELP RESOLVE MAYBE THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE JUST DEALT WITH EARLIER TONIGHT.

UH, THAT IT MAY, UM, PREVENT, PREVENT SOME OF THAT, UH, THOSE PROBLEMS, UH, REGARDING, UH, REHAB AND DRUG USE AND WHATNOT.

SO, UH, I JUST, UH, UH, I HAVE A PASSION FOR, FOR THIS AND, UH, AND I THINK ALL OF COUNCIL DOES IN GENERAL, AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, GOOD THINGS HAPPENING.

SO, I, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I REALIZE IT'S GETTING LATE AND SO WE ARE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA NOT TAKE THE TIME TO SAY THAT THE GROUP, UM, ALL THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE PART OF THE REACHING OUT NOW BOARD AND THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WORKING TOWARDS FUNDRAISING, AND THERE HAVE BEEN EVENTS, AND AS I SAID, I ACTUALLY, UH, VISITED, UM, THE BUILDING ON JANUARY 15TH, AND I SEE WHAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE.

AND THEY WERE SHARING WITH ME LIKE THIS IDEA, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY VISUALS OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

THERE IS A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE, UM, THAT ARE, THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S AN ORGANIZATION AS A NONPROFIT, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE PEOPLE WORKING, UM, ON THIS PROJECT FOR OUR KIDS.

UM, AND SO I, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO, UM, NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR SAMANTHA BARBER AND HER GROUP.

UM, AND THERE'S ENA AND, UH, MARLENA AND, AND I, I, I DON'T WANNA NAME THEM ALL BECAUSE I'M GONNA INEVITABLY LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT, BUT THEY'RE WORKING VERY HARD.

UM, AND UH, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID EARLIER, IF ANYBODY, UM, WANTS TO DONATE OR, UH, I'M SURE THEY WOULD EVEN BE WILLING, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TOO, LIKE, LIKE THEY HAD LIKE A PINGING PONG TABLE AND GAMING SYSTEMS AND THINGS ON THEIR AMAZON WISHLIST.

AND THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, WELL, I, I, I DON'T HAVE $400 TO BUY A FOOSBALL TABLE, BUT I COULD DONATE AN AMAZON GIFT CARD.

I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THOSE THINGS, PUT 'EM TOGETHER AND, AND, UM, AND, AND GET SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR OUR KIDS.

BUT THERE'S SOME GREAT THINGS GOING ON DOWN THERE.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GREAT FOR OUR KIDS.

SO, AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT KIDS, SO.

YOU READY? ROLL CALL.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, DO WE NEED TO PUT IN THE MOTION ABOUT CHANGING THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION? I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR DURING DISCUSSION.

THAT THE, UM, THAT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED, UH, THE TITLE CONTAINS, THE TITLE IS THE SAM MEYER STUDENT UNION AND ACTIVITY CENTER.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE WE, BEFORE I SIGN IT AND EXECUTE IT, IT'S ALREADY BEEN CHANGED.

COUNCILWOMAN MEDIDA.

MONICA PAYNE? YES.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CLOSED MEETING.

UH, AT THIS POINT,

[12. CLOSED MEETING ]

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE READ US IN THE CLOSE? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 2 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES.

ONE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A SEVEN OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND BRIEFINGS BY STAFF MEMBERS OR CONSULTANTS PERTAINING TO ACTUAL OR PROBABLE LITIGATION WHERE SUCH CONSULTATION OR BRIEFING AND OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NEGOTIATING OR LITIGATING POSTURE OF THE PUBLIC BODY.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, FIRST BANK AND TRUST AND THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VERSUS FRONT ROYAL LIMITED PARTNERSHIP.

MOTION AND SECOND ROLL CALL.

OH, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.

JUST ROLL CALL VICE MAYOR .

COUNCILMAN DEAMON PAYNE? YES.