[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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ALL RIGHT.I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE FRONT RAIL PLANNING COMMISSION FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER THE 20TH, 2023.
WHEN YOU'RE READY, MS. POTTER WOULD BE THE ROLL CALL.
AND VICE CHAIRMAN MARNER IS ABSENT TONIGHT.
AND WITH THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[III. ADDITION/DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA]
OF BUSINESS.ITEM THREE WOULD BE THE ADDITION OR DELETION OF ANY ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR DELETE? HEARING NONE.
[IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023, REGULAR MEETING.WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MS. POTTER? CHAIRMAN WELLS? YES.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT OUR MINUTES ARE APPROVED FOR THE NOVEMBER 15TH MEETING.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS WOULD BE ITEM FIVE.
THIS WOULD BE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS RATHER NOT DISCUSS, UH, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANYTHING NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK FOR ANY OF THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS, THAT WOULD COME AT A LATER TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY.
[VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
SIX, PUBLIC HEARINGS.UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE RULES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, THE ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR EACH APPLICATION IS AS FOLLOWS.
THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AFTER COMPLETION OF THE STAFF REPORT TO APPLICANT'S ALLOWED OR ENCOURAGED TO SPEAK.
AFTER THE APPLICANT GIVES THEIR PRESENTATION, WE WILL THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENT SECTION.
AND ONCE ALL THOSE THAT WISH TO DO SO HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK, WE WILL THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THERE'LL BE A PERIOD FOR ANY APPLICANT REBUTTAL.
AT THAT POINT, THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO, UH, OF THE APPLICANT OR ANY OF THE SPEAKERS.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DIRECT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
PLEASE DO NOT ADDRESS THE APPLICANT STAFF OR OTHER SPEAKERS.
FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP AND WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
AND WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND ENSURE ALL COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF THE AGENDA.
SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS APPLICATION NUMBER 2 3 0 0 6 9 5.
THE WARREN COALITION REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A LODGING HOUSE LOCATED AT 5 0 1 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.
MR. WARE APPLICATION 2 3 0 0 6 9 5 IS REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A LODGING HOUSE AT 5 0 1 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.
IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP NUMBER 20 A SEVEN DASH EIGHT DASH ONE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
IT IS IN THE ENTRANCE CORRIDOR AND IT'S LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE AND AVIEW DRIVE, UH, WITH INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE STAFF REPORT, THE THE SUP APPLICATION AND A SURVEY PLAT WITH THE PROPOSED PARKING.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE A REVISED SURVEY PLAT WITH THE PROPOSED PARKING LAYOUT THAT YOU ASKED FOR AT THE WORK SESSION AND HAS BEEN HANDED OUT.
THAT SHOWS THE, UH, PARKING SPACES IN THE BACK, THE PROPOSED PARKING SPACES, SECTION 1 75 1 0 4.
THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES ALL NEW USES OR DEVELOPMENTS AND CHANGE OF USES SHALL COMPLY WITH THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 1 48.
THE PROPOSED USE BY THE TOWN CODE CHAPTER 1 48 8 70 A TWO REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE PER ROOM AND TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES.
THE APPLICATION HAS LISTED EIGHT ROOMS, THUS REQUIRING A, A TOTAL OF 10 PARKING SPACES AS DENOTED ON THE PLAT SHOWING THE PARKING SPACES.
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DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE LODGING HOUSE.UH, THERE'S A VIEW FROM THE INTERSECTION OF THE ROAD OF THE STRUCTURE, THE SIDE VIEW THAT IS AN ALLEY, A TOWN ALLEY THERE AT THE GRAVEL.
UH, THE BUILDING IN THE BACK, AGAIN, THAT IS A TOWN ALLEY THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE THAT IS NOT PARKING FOR THAT LOT.
UH, THAT THERE IS THE BACK LOT WHERE THE ALLEY PART OF THE GRAVEL, UH, INTERSECTS THE PARCEL.
THAT IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE PARKING LOT.
UH, ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT AND, UH, THE VIEW OF THE STREET, A VIEW STREET, UH, THOSE STAKES DENOTE THE, UH, PROPERTY CORNERS THERE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE A PORTION OF THOSE TREES WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE PARKING LOT IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIRES TO, UH, PUT CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICATION AS PER TOWN CODE 1 75 3.
A LODGING HOUSE IS DEFINED AS A BUILDING, A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OTHER THAN A HOTEL MOTEL OR BED AND BREAKFAST HOME WHERE LODGING IS PROVIDED FOR COMPENSATION ON A REGULAR BASIS PURSUANT TO PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENTS, BUT WHICH DO NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR TRANSIENT GUESTS.
MEALS MAY BE PROVIDED FOR THE RESIDENTS IN A CENTRAL LOCATION.
HOWEVER, NO PROVISIONS SHALL BE MADE FOR COOKING IN INDIVIDUAL, INDIVIDUAL ROOMS OR UNITS.
THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ROOMS OR UNITS SHALL BE CONTROLLED BY THE AREA REQUIREMENTS OF THE DISTRICT IN WHICH THE USE IS LOCATED.
BUT IN NO CASE SHALL THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS OR UNITS EXCEED 10.
THE LODGING HOUSE SHALL BE KNOWN AS A ROOMING HOUSE OR A BOARDING HOUSE.
TOWN CODE 1 75 39 B ALLOWS LODGING HOUSES TO BE PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE C ONE DISTRICT.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY AND LOOKED AT IT.
IS THAT A TOWN ALLEY THAT WE SEE CROSSING FROM A VIEW OVER TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY? YES, IT IS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM YOUR, UM, PLANT, UH, LET ME GET IT BACK UP HERE.
YEAH, THEY OWN, UH, GO BACK TO, YEAH, THERE WE GO.
SO THE, THE PROPERTY IS TECHNICALLY DIVIDED BY THE ALLEY AND THEN THE, I CAN'T SEE THEM VERY WELL, BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE PROPOSING THE 10 PARKING SPACES YES.
SO WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES, PERHAPS ALONG A VIEW, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT IN AND WHAT WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PARKING? DOES IT HAVE TO BE A GRAVEL SURFACE? DOES IT HAVE TO BE A PAVEMENT SERVICE? SURFACE TOWN CODE ALLOWS, UH, PARKING LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 4,500 SQUARE FEET CAN, UH, BE GRAVEL INSTEAD OF THE PAVEMENT.
UH, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR CAN ALLOW THOSE FOR, UH, PARKING LOTS UNDER THE 4,500 SQUARE FOOT OF AREA.
AND THIS SITE DOES MEET THAT THRESHOLD.
SO THEY COULD ASK FOR, UH, THE PARKING LOT TO BE GRAVEL INSTEAD OF, UH, ASPHALT OR PAVEMENT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF ACCESS EITHER THROUGH THE TOWN ALLEY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, THE, THE FIR UH, FIRST PARTIAL OR THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY.
IT CONNECTS AVIEW TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY INTO THAT.
THEY, THE ALLEY, UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS RIGHT, UH, THERE'S THE ALLEY THAT COMES OFF OF, UH, THE MAIN STREET THERE, GOES BY THE HOME OR THE STRUCTURE AND TURNS AROUND THE BACK AND GOES TO AVIEW.
THAT PROVIDED ACCESS TO THE PARKING LOT AND TO THE PARCEL.
MR. SWEAR WAS, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, WASN'T THAT BUILDING A WASN'T THAT A A BUSINESS BEFORE THIS BK HAYNES? RELATIVELY, YEAH.
HAS IT EVER BEEN USED IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE AS A RESIDENCE? I'M PROBABLY NOT THE BEST PERSON TO ASK THAT QUESTION TOO.
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AS NO, AS I REMEMBERED ALL AS A BUSINESS, BE CA HAINES REALTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, UPDATED, UH, WHAT DID WE JUST DO? UM, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WITH RESPECT TO THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOW HAS THIS AREA LOOKED AT? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THAT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, LET'S SEE IF IT'S NOTED IN OUR STAFF REPORT.
UM, IT DOES FALL IN LINE, UH, WITH THAT PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR DOES FALL IN LINE WITH THAT? WELL, IT'S AN, IT'S AN COMMERCIAL MIXED USE AREA, SO, SO THE LODGING HOUSE AS IT IS NOW REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO IF THE ZONING NOW REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THAT WOULD FALL IN LINE WITH THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY, GOOD EVENING TO YOU.
ADDRESS IS 3 0 5 HUNTERS RIDGE ROAD, WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA 2 2 6 0 2.
AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WARREN COALITION.
UM, WE ARE SEEKING THIS HOUSE AS WE ALREADY HAVE A STRUCTURE ON, UH, ROYAL FOR THE, WHAT WE CALL THE LANDING A MEN'S, UH, RECOVERY RESIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE MAY OF 2022.
AND WE FILLED THAT HOUSE VERY QUICKLY.
UM, THIS WILL ALLOW US MORE BEDS.
WE'RE THINKING WE'LL HAVE 15 BEDS WITH THAT, THAT NUMBER OF ROOMS AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FILL THAT.
BUT THE OTHER THING IT WILL GIVE US, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, IS ALSO A SPACE FOR FEMALES.
WE WILL USE THE LANDING, UM, AS A RESIDENCE FOR FEMALES.
AND, UM, I HAD, I WAS IN THE JAIL TODAY.
NO, ACTUALLY I WAS IN THE JAIL YESTERDAY AND I HAD TWO FEMALES IN THERE WHO WERE PART OF THE DRUG POT WHO SAID, HEY, WE HEAR YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OP A HOUSE OPEN FOR FEMALES.
WHEN IS THAT GONNA BE? AND YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET IN? UM, WE HAD TWO CALLS FROM THE COURT WHO SAID, HEY, HAVE YOU GUYS, ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT DOING ANYTHING IN DRUG COURT? WE ALREADY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP ON THE MEN'S SIDE AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY ENTER INTO THAT ON THE FEMALE SIDE.
UM, I WILL COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD QUESTIONS BEFORE.
WE DO NOT PROMI PROVIDE MEALS TO THE RESIDENTS OF, UM, THE LANDING.
WE WILL NOT PROVIDE MEALS IN THIS HOUSE, NOR AS WE MOVE THEM TO THE OTHER.
WE WILL HAVE AN ONSITE HOUSE MANAGER.
UM, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A, A PRETTY GOOD RAPPORT.
UM, AND GOOD REPORTS WITH THE TOWN POLICE, ALSO PROBATION.
ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE ARE CURRENTLY ON PROBATION.
UM, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH PROBATION SEARCHES, EVEN BRINGING IN DOGS.
THE HOUSE HAS BEEN KNOCK WOOD CLEAN.
THE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE TESTED NEGATIVE.
AND, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT WHO ACTUALLY HAVE LIVED IN THE LANDING FOR A WHILE, WHO CAN SPEAK TO YOU MORE ABOUT HOW THAT'S BENEFITED THEM.
BUT I HOPE YOU'LL LOOK FAVORABLY ON THIS REQUEST.
WE, THE NEED IS HUGE IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND WE DO BASICALLY PROVIDE MOST OF OUR HOUSING TO LOCAL PEOPLE.
UM, MOST OF OUR FOLKS COME FROM WARREN.
WE DO HAVE SOME FROM SHENANDOAH.
I DON'T, MAYBE WE'VE HAD ONE FROM OUT OF STATE AND ONE WHO IS FROM DOWN AT SOUTH BOSTON.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, THE PEOPLE ARE LOCAL PEOPLE SEEKING HOUSING.
THEY DID JUST SHUT AN OXFORD HOUSE IN WINCHESTER FOR MEN, TOOK OUT 15 BEDS UP THERE.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU'RE SEEING A DECREASE IN WHAT'S AVAILABLE THERE, WHICH IS WHERE WE WERE SENDING PEOPLE PREVIOUSLY AND STILL SENDING FEMALES.
IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU BEFORE I SIT? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE EXPERIENCE ON RURAL AVENUE WITH THE FIRST HOUSE THAT WAS APPROVED? HOW, HOW HAS IT GONE? UH, WHAT HAS BEEN THE, UH, RATE OF SUCCESS AND THE INTERACTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO I THINK THE HOUSE HAS GONE, AS WE WOULD PREDICT, WE HAVE, UM, TONIGHT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM ONE OF THE VERY ORIGINAL RESIDENTS WHO MOVED IN OPENING DAY, WHO'S STILL AT THE HOUSE.
UM, PEOPLE COME AND GO FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE HAD PEOPLE RELAPSE.
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SO THEY HAVE A CHOICE.THEY, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, WE HAVE A SEPARATE SORT OF ROOM THAT WE MOVE THEM TO AND THEY ARE GIVEN A CHOICE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO INPATIENT TREATMENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET INTO SOME SORT OF OUTPATIENT TREATMENT OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO PACK AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE GONE TOMORROW MORNING? AND THEY, THEY CAN CHOOSE THOSE AND THEN WE MAKE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.
UM, JAMES, WHO'S THE HOUSE MANAGER, IS VERY GOOD AT GETTING PEOPLE INTO TREATMENT AND WE SEND THEM ALL OVER THE STATE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
IF IT'S POSSIBLE WE'LL HOLD A BED IF THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GO AND THEY WANNA COME BACK, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE IT.
UM, BUT IF AS LONG AS THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES, WE WOULD WELCOME, WE WOULD WELCOME THEM BACK.
I'M GONNA LET, I WILL HOLD OFF AND HONOR THE GUYS WHO COME TO SPEAK, WHO CAN SPEAK MORE TO THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
UM, BUT AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE EVERYBODY ON PROBATION, IT'S SORT OF A FREE PROBATION CAN SHOW UP WHENEVER THEY WANT TO SEARCH TO DO WHATEVER THAT KNOCK WOOD HAS GONE WELL.
UM, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIRST HEARING WE HAD A COUPLE COME OUT AND WERE, UM, CONCERNED.
UH, THEY HAVE SINCE MADE FRIENDS WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE.
WE'VE HAD THEM, YOU KNOW, BRING MEALS OVER FOR THE GUYS.
AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, OVERALL THINGS HAVE BEEN GOOD AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD WELCOME IF YOU GUYS HAD MORE QUESTIONS TO TALK TO THE PROBATION OFFICERS WHO OVERSEE THE HOUSE OR, OR THE TOWN POLICE.
UM, BUT I, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT.
AND, AND I, I, I WON'T PUT WORDS IN THE, IN THE RESIDENT'S MOUTH 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I WILL RESPECT THEIRS.
WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, FIRST SPEAKER SIGNED UP TONIGHT WILL BE BARBARA SAMUELS.
I LIVE AT 400 EAST JACKSON STREET HERE IN FRONT ROYAL.
UM, I SEE THE VOTE TODAY OR THIS EVENING NOT AS A VOTE ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE BECAUSE WE SHOULD AS A PERSON, AS AN ORGANIZATION, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
I COULD SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL AREA, THE BUSINESSES AROUND THE, THIS POTENTIAL LOCATION, HOW THEY WOULD BE DEVALUED.
I COULD SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT HOW LANDLORDS MAY HAVE A MORE DIFFICULT PROBLEM KEEPING OR ATTRACTING NEW TENANTS, BUT I WON'T, I COULD SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT BUSINESSES, LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE THE HAIR SALON OR
BUT I WON'T, I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.
I PERSONALLY OWN THE PROPERTY ADJACENT.
AND, UH, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF PROBLEMS WITH PARKING, SUCH AS, WHERE'S THE LAWNMOWER GUY GONNA PARK? HE CURRENTLY PULLS IN WITH A BIG TRUCK AND A BIG TRAILER THING BEHIND IT.
HE CURRENTLY USES THAT 18 FOOT.
THE AREA THAT THE TOWN OWNS, HE PULLS IN AND HE PULLS INTO THE TRIANGLE AREA WHERE IT'S NOW GONNA BE PARKING.
SO WHERE IS HE GONNA PARK? I BELIEVE THE LADY SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE FOOD AT THIS LOCATION.
BUT IF THAT WERE TO CHANGE, WHERE IS SKANKS OR CISCO GONNA PARK? THEY COME WITH THEIR TRACTOR TRAILERS, AMBULANCE AND OR A POLICE CAR.
HOPEFULLY THERE WOULD NEVER BE A PROBLEM.
BUT IF THERE WOULD BE, AND UNFORTUNATELY HUMAN NATURE IS PEOPLE OR PEOPLE AT SOME TIME THERE MAY WELL BE A PROBLEM.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? THEN WE GET INTO, HEAVEN FORBID THEY WOULD EVER HAVE TO CALL THE FIRE TRUCK.
WHERE NOW OBVIOUSLY THE FIRER WILL HAVE TO PARK IN THE STREET, BUT THAT SITUATION HOPEFULLY WOULD ONLY OCCUR ON A SUNDAY OR IN THE EVENING.
BECAUSE TODAY AT NOON, ACTUALLY 1155, I TOOK A PICTURE OF A VIEW.
THERE WERE SIX VEHICLES AND ONE WHITE TRUCK ALL PARKED AT THE CURB.
THAT'S WHERE THEY FROM ACROSS THE STREET, THE HAIRSTYLIST AND CLIENTELE AND SOME FROM THE REAL ESTATE OFFICE, UH, FROM THE MORRIS MORRIS COMPANY.
THEY PARK THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND INCLUDING SATURDAY BECAUSE THE HAIR SALON OPENS AT 10.
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THEN WE GET INTO THE CATEGORY OF VISITORS.THERE MAY WELL BE A POTENTIALLY UP TO 16 GENTLEMEN AND OR LADIES LIVING IN THIS FACILITY.
IF IT'S APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT IT IS, PROBABLY THEY WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF A CONTROLLED VISITATION.
WHERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE GONNA PARK? NOT ANY, NOT ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE FOR THE PROGRAM WILL HAVE VISITORS, BUT SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE TWO.
SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA HAVE? 12, 14, 16 VEHICLES AGAIN, WHERE WILL THEY PARK? EVERYTHING'S TAKEN ON THE STREET.
I OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AND AT NO TIME, AT NO TIME.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S EVENING, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS, THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO PARK ON MY PROPERTY.
IT WILL BE PROPERLY POSTED AND I WILL HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AN AGENCY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THIS, IF YOU ALL DECIDE THAT YOU'RE VOTING YES TO ALLOW THIS FACILITY IN WHAT IS REALLY A COMMERCIAL AREA WITH HAIR SALONS, WITH REAL ESTATE OFFICES, RESTAURANTS, GAS STATIONS, AUTO REPAIR, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF EITHER LETTER TO OWNERSHIP OF THIS FACILITY OR MAYBE PART OF THE PROCESS FOR THE APPROVAL THAT THEY CANNOT PARK AND BLOCK THAT 18 FOOT, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT ALLEY OR EASEMENT AREA THAT THE TOWN OWNS.
BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THAT HOW THEIR CLIENTELE, THEIR VISITORS, POSSIBLY THEIR STAFF, WHERE ARE THEIR STAFF GONNA PARK? I HAVE THE OLD 12 AND THIS JUST DOESN'T WORK.
YOU'D HAVE TO AIRLIFT A COUPLE OF SPACES, CARS ON A SPOT, FOUR AND FIVE AND POSSIBLY SIX.
SO THE, THE, THE ISSUES OF PARKING ARE IMMENSE.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OTHER PROBLEMS. SO BASICALLY WITH THE PARKING PROBLEMS FOR THIS LOCATION ALONE, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD DENY THE APPLICANT.
BUT I HAVE ONE OTHER LITTLE THING TO SAY.
THIS LOCATION IS AT A MAJOR INTERSECTION WITH WHAT, 30,000 CARS A DAY GOING BY.
ANY TOURISTS COMING IN FROM SAY, SKYLINE DRIVE, LERAY AREA, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST THING THEY SAY WHEN THEY COME INTO TOWN.
IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT A GREAT LOOK IF YOU ARE A TOURIST, YOU'RE ON SOUTH STREET, IT'S A LONG LIGHT.
SO YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF LOOK AROUND DURING THE SPRING WHEN IT'S NICE OR SUMMER WHEN IT'S HOT FALL WHEN IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT, WILL WE HAVE THE CLIENTELE FROM THIS ESTABLISHMENT OR THIS HOT LODGING HOUSE? WILL THEY HAVE THEIR SEMINARS AND CLASSES, COUNSELING OUTSIDE? IF THEY DO, UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN WILL LOOK AT THIS AND WHAT WILL THEY THINK? OH, IT'S A HOMELESS SHELTER.
NOW THAT'S WRONG AND THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ASSUMPTION, BUT THAT'S A LOGICAL ASSUMPTION.
AND WHAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE THE NEXT LOGICAL ASSUMPTION THAT THEY HAVE? GOSH, IT'S A CUTE LITTLE TOWN, BUT BOY AM I GLAD I'M NOT, I'M JUST DRIVING THROUGH IT.
I'M NOT GONNA BUY ANYTHING HERE AND I'M CERTAINLY NOT GONNA SPEND A MILLION OR 1,000,003 TO OPEN A BUSINESS.
WHY WOULD LOOK WHAT THE TOWN WILL DO.
SO UNFORTUNATELY WE MAY HAVE LOST REVENUE, LOST BUSINESSES AND WE WON'T EVEN KNOW WE LOST THEM.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE DREW.
I'M DREW AND I LIVE AT 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE, THE LANDING, AND I JUST WROTE DOWN SOME STUFF.
SO, UM, WELL I'VE BEEN AT THE LANDING FOR, UH, SEVEN MONTHS NOW AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
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IS, UH, GREAT.I'VE BEEN ABLE TO STAY SOBER, WHICH HAS BEEN THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY LIFE RIGHT NOW.
UH, I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OTHER PLACES AND HAVEN'T HAD THE SAME, UM, UH, SUCCESS AS I HAVE AT THIS HOUSE.
UM, THEY, UH, PROVIDE A PLACE TO BUILD STRONG COPING MECHANISMS AND HAVE A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
UM, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN GREAT.
I'VE BECOME FRIENDS WITH SOME OF THE CLIENTS, UM, THE STAFF I CAN CALL FRIENDS AND THEY REGULARLY CHECK IN ON HOW I'M MOVING ALONG IN MY NEW LIFE WITHOUT DRUGS.
AND, UM, UH, I WAS ABLE TO GET A GREAT PAYING JOB, UH, THROUGH THEIR RESOURCES AND THEY ARE ABLE TO GET ME TO AND FROM THE JOB, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL TO ME.
UM, JUST BEING ABLE TO PAY RENT AND EVERYTHING.
UM, AND I, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM, SO THANK YOU.
FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS FOR CONTINUING THE TREATMENT AND, AND BEING THE MODEL.
UM, WHERE DO YOU WORK AT PRESENTLY? UM, EXALTA.
AND DO YOU HAVE A CAR? UM, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS IS LETTING ME, UM, BORROW A CAR, WHICH IS OKAY.
MY NAME'S HUNTER SIBERT AND I ALSO LIVE AT 200 NORTH ROW AVENUE.
BEING AT THE LANDING HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.
I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE I GOT OUT OF TREATMENT AROUND OCTOBER 10TH.
UM, THERE'S VERY GREAT RESOURCES AND I'VE ALSO, ON THE 22ND OF JANUARY, GOT A JOB AT CISCO THANKS TO RESOURCES THROUGH THE WARREN COUNTY COALITION.
AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SHARE.
ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE A CAR? NO, SIR.
I LIVE AT FOUR 13 WEST SPRING STREET IN WOODSTOCK, VIRGINIA.
UH, I AM A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST WITH THE WARREN COALITION.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO YOU ALL WHEN WE WERE OPENING THE OTHER HOUSE.
AND AS I SAID, WHEN WE WENT TO OPEN THE OTHER HOUSE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT THESE HOMES IS IT GIVES OUR CLIENTS A PLACE IN SAFETY AND SUPPORT THAT THEY MAY HAVE NEVER HAD IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES ANYWHERE ELSE.
LIKE, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH WHEN I WAS IN TREATMENT THAT I HAD A MOTHER THAT WOULD TAKE ME BACK, LIKE EVEN WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT I DID AND PROVIDE ME A SAFE AND STABLE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT NOT EVERYBODY GETS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WE HAVE, IF THEY GET OUTTA TREATMENT, THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAVE TO GO A LOT OF TIMES IS THE STREET AND ALL THEIR PROBLEMS THAT THEY WORK SO HARD TO HELP CURE WILL GO COME RIGHT BACK BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A SUPPORT SYSTEM.
THEY DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO LAY THEIR HEAD.
THEY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT CARE WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN FIND A JOB OR HAVE FOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW THE FOOD THING WAS BROUGHT UP, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL NEVER HAVE FOOD DELIVERED TO THE HOUSE.
THE GUYS, WE GET THEM JOBS AND WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE JOBS, WE TAKE 'EM TO THE LOCAL FOOD BANKS AND THEY COOK THEIR OWN MEALS OR WE COOK MEALS TOGETHER.
LIKE, SO THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
BUT, UH, NO, IT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT.
LIKE WE, WE HAVE GOOD TIMES WITH THESE GUYS.
WE LISTEN TO THEIR PROBLEMS. LIKE I SAID, WE HELP THEM FIND JOBS.
LIKE THEY HAVE A SAFETY THERE THAT GIVES, HELPS REBUILD THEIR CONFIDENCE IN THEMSELVES AND IN THE FACT THAT HUMANITY CARES ABOUT THEM AND ISN'T JUST LOOKING THROUGH THEM AND THROWING THEM AWAY.
LIKE AS A RECOVERING ADDICT MYSELF, LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT OVER TWO YEARS CLEAN FROM DRUGS NOW.
AND THE RELATIONSHIPS I'VE BUILT IN NOT ONLY RECOVERY BUT WITH MISS KRISTA AND THE COALITION, THEY WERE NICE ENOUGH TO PAY FOR MY PEER RECOVERY CLASS AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GAVE ME A JOB TO HELP OTHERS THE WAY THAT I WAS HELPED.
AND IT'S EMPOWERING AND WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN ADDICTION, LIKE WHAT WE NEED IS OTHER ADDICTS AND PEOPLE THAT CARE.
LIKE WE NEED PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND AND WE NEED PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT US LIKE NOT FROM OUR MISTAKES,
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BUT THE POTENTIAL THAT WE DO HAVE.BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE PEOPLE.
WE'RE NOT JUST A THROWAWAY, WE'RE NOT PEOPLE THAT ONLY HAVE DONE WRONG IN OUR LIVES LIKE WE HAVE DONE WRONG.
BUT THE BIG THING IS WE STEP UP AND ADMIT IT WHEN WE'RE IN PLACES LIKE THIS.
AND A PLACE LIKE THIS HELPS PEOPLE BECOME A PART OF A COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, IT HELPS US GROW AND BECOME SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN BE PROUD OF.
LIKE TO ME IT'S, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE A THOUGHT OF IMAGE PROBLEMS. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S NOT ANYTHING OFFENSIVE, BUT YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AT SOME OF THESE LOCAL HOTELS AND SEE MUCH WORSE THINGS STANDING ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET THAN YOU'LL EVER SEE COMING OUT OF OUR RECOVERY HOUSE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
AND I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST A SUPPORT SYSTEM.
AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE FIRST GETTING OUTTA RECOVERY, THE BIGGEST THING IS HAVING PEOPLE THAT CARE WHO CAN BE THERE AND HELP YOU ALONG THE WAY.
BECAUSE A LOT OF US HAVE TO RELEARN HOW TO BE AN ADULT.
WE HAVE TO RELEARN LIFE ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THE WAY WE WERE LIVING OUR LIVES WAS NOT PRODUCTIVE.
WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
AND WE HAVE TO BE TAUGHT HOW TO BE ADULTS.
AND I KNOW TO SOME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT SOUND SILLY THAT AN ADULT HAS TO LEARN HOW TO BE AN ADULT AGAIN.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS WE CAN LEARN AND WITH THE SUPPORT AND WE DO CLASSES WITH THE GUYS AND WE TAKE THEM TO MEETINGS AND LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, WE GET THEM JOBS.
WE TEACH THE, LIKE THEY DO THEIR OWN LAUNDRY.
LIKE I SAID, THEY DO THEIR OWN COOKING, LIKE THEY LEARN MORE ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THEY GROW.
AND IT'S LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY THE LIFE COME BACK ON IN SOMEBODY'S EYES THAT FEELS LIKE A FAILURE, WHICH IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.
TO FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T MATTER AND THAT YOU FAILED TO SEE THE LIGHT COME BACK ON THEIR, IN THEIR EYES IS SO POWERFUL.
AND IF YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THE GUYS AND YOU SIT DOWN AND GET TO KNOW 'EM, LIKE YOU SEE THIS TRANSFORMATION FROM THE FIRST DAY THEY CAME IN, LIKE JUST HOW MUCH HAPPIER THEY ARE, JUST HOW MUCH MORE THEY BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES.
AND THAT'S A POWER THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T REALLY DESCRIBE IN WORDS TO THE RIGHT T LIKE YOU HAVE TO SEE IT ON YOUR OWN.
BUT A PLACE LIKE THIS PROVIDES THAT.
AND LIKE MS. KRISTA TOUCHED ON, LIKE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF THESE PLACES.
LIKE SOME OF THEM ARE CLOSING AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS TIME OF YEAR IS ONE OF THE WORST.
LIKE IN RECOVERY, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL RELAPSE SEASON BECAUSE ADDICTS GET VERY DEPRESSED AND WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND NOT HAVING FAMILY LIKE, BUT A PLACE LIKE THIS, THEY HAVE A FAMILY.
LIKE YOU BECOME PART OF A FAMILY IN A HOME LIKE THIS.
LIKE WE LOVE EACH OTHER, WE CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER.
WE CALL EACH OTHER ON THE THINGS WE ARE DOING WRONG WHEN WE ARE DOING THINGS WRONG.
OR IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH OR YOU KNOW, WE END UP NOTICING THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT BE OFF AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY GET TO TALK TO SOMEBODY WHICH THEY MIGHT NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYWHERE ELSE.
LIKE, AND IT'S JUST A PLACE LIKE THIS CHANGES LIVES.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL IT COMES DOWN TO IS YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT CAN CHANGE SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND POWERFUL THING IN LIFE EVER IS TO CHANGE, HELP CHANGE SOMEBODY ELSE'S LIVES.
LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THE GROWTH YOU JUST SEE IN SOME OF THESE GUYS FROM THE DAY THEY WALK IN IS MR. HALL, YOUR, YOUR TIME IS UP.
MICHAEL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? COUPLE QUESTIONS BECAUSE AS WE SENSE AND WE HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE AUDIENCE IS NOT ABLE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO PARROT PERHAPS SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, I KNOW YOUR TWO CLIENTS HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN.
TYPICALLY, HOW MANY OF YOUR FOLKS HAVE CARS? I MEAN OUR, OUR CODE WILL REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE PARKING, BUT REAL REALISTICALLY, SO MOST OF OUR CLIENTS, HONESTLY WHEN THEY GET THERE DO NOT HAVE CARS.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A LICENSE AT THAT POINT.
LIKE WE TEND TO HELP THEM GET TO COURT AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE HELP THEM GET THEIR LICENSES BACK AND LIKE I SAID, WE HELP THEM GET JOBS AND THEN THEY START SAVING FOR A CAR.
MOST PEOPLE THAT COME TO US DO NOT HAVE A LICENSE TO BEGIN WITH.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO OWN ONE AT THE TIME.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BEFORE AND AGAIN TONIGHT IS VISITORS AND HANGING OUT OUTSIDE THE HOUSE.
CAN YOU MAYBE ADDRESS THAT? SO WE HAVE VISITOR TIME, PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS EVERY DAY.
LIKE THERE'S CERTAIN DAYS AND TIMES THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS AND THEN THEY'RE NOT, THEY HAVE TO BE OUT BY A CERTAIN TIME AT NIGHT.
THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO STAY OVER OVERNIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND AS YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER, LIKE PARKING WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE LAST HOUSE.
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AND WE BUILT THE PARKING LOT AND HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THAT AND NEVER IN MY KNOWLEDGE HAS OUR PARKING LOT EVER BEEN FULL.
EVEN WHEN WE HAVE, UH, VISITORS TO THE HOUSE, WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH PARKING, WITH THE LITTLE PARKING LOT THAT WE DO HAVE NOW.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE WHAT, SEVEN MORE BEDS IN THIS HOUSE THAN THE ONE WE ALREADY HAVE.
BUT I MEAN, AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CHANCE TO GO TO THE HOUSE, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR US TO BUILD MORE PARKING AT THE ACTUAL HOUSE IF WE NEEDED TO.
I'M NOT SURE, LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY GOTTEN A CHANCE TO GO BY AND LOOK AT THE ACTUAL HOUSE YET.
BUT, UH, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE POLICE OR THE RESCUE SQUAD'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE HOUSE OPENED? I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD TWO PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE POLICE.
ONE WAS A GUY THAT THE POLICE WERE LOOKING FOR AND HE ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY REMOVED HIM FROM THE HOUSE OURSELVES.
LIKE HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE AND THEY THOUGHT HE WAS STILL THERE SO THEY CAME BY LOOKING FOR HIM.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER, I BELIEVE PROBATION CAME BY TO CHECK SOMEBODY'S ROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS AT ALL.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ANY RESCUE SQUAD CALLS.
I KNOW THAT UH, SOME NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS.
UH, FOLKS THERE ON VIRGINIA AVENUE, UH, DRUG DEALINGS ARE ALREADY GOING ON.
AND OF COURSE THEY SAW THIS AS A MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SAME THING.
UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW THE NEIGHBORS HAVE RESPONDED TO THE HOUSE THERE ON ROYAL AVENUE? I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE RESPONDED GREATLY TO IT.
LIKE I KNOW SOME OF OUR GUYS HAVE OFFERED TO HELP THEM WITH THINGS BEFORE, AS MS. CHRIS HAS STATED, WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS COME AND BRING MEALS FOR THE GUYS.
LIKE I KNOW PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN BEING A LITTLE ROWDY OR LOUD AT TIMES.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
LIKE THEY'LL SIT OUT ON THE SCREEN PORCH OR MAYBE SHOOT BASKETBALL AT OUR BASKETBALL HOOP THAT WE HAVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT LOUD, THEY'RE QUIET.
WE HAVE OUR LITTLE GROUP MEETINGS INSIDE MOST OF THE TIME 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST WHERE WE HOLD THEM AND I MEAN THEY GO TO WORK, THEY COME HOME, THEY GO GROCERY, THEY LIVE, UH, NORMAL EVERYDAY LIFE.
AND WE DO, WE HAVE GOOD TIMES.
LIKE THEY LAUGH, WE WATCH MOVIES AND THINGS LIKE, UH, NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SEEMED TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AT THE HOUSE.
UH, NEXT ON THE LIST IS KRISTA SHIFFLET.
YOU ALREADY HEARD YOU SPOKE TO.
HELLO, MY NAME IS KATIE BROME AND I LIVE AT 1154.
HAPPY RIDGE DRIVE HERE IN FRONT ROYAL.
UM, I WAS ASKED TO COME SPEAK HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I AM A WOMAN IN RECOVERY AND I'VE BEEN SOBER FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
AND DURING MY RECOVERY PROCESS I HAD TO ACTUALLY GO OUT TO ROANOKE TO GO TO TREATMENT AND LIVE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED SOMEWHERE HERE IN VIRGINIA OR IN, SORRY, IN FRONT ROYAL FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO.
I'M A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST WITH NORTHWESTERN AND FOR THEIR NEW DRUG COURT PROGRAM.
AND UM, THE GUYS IN THERE ARE ABLE TO GO TO THE LANDING, BUT THERE'S NO PLACE HERE IN FRONT ROYAL FOR THE FEMALES TO LIVE.
AND YOU HAVE TO BE, UM, A WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT IN ORDER TO GO TO DRUG COURT.
AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING APPROVED BECAUSE THERE'S NO HOUSING FOR THEM IN THIS AREA.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I GOT.
MOVING ON, WE HAVE CHRISTIE HARLOW.
UM, I WAS ASKED TO COME SPEAK TODAY, UM, ON HOW SOBER LIVING HAS AFFECTED MY LIFE.
I CAME HOME FROM PRISON, UM, AUGUST OF 2023 AND I WENT DIRECTLY TO A SOBER LIVING HOME IN WINCHESTER.
UM, LONG-TERM, SOBER LIVING PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT SERVES AS A BEACON OF HOPE AND SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS TRANSITIONING FROM ADDICTION TO A LIFE AND RECOVERY, PROVIDING A STRUCTURED AND NURTURING ENVIRONMENT THAT PROMOTES STABILITY, PERSONAL GROWTH, AND REIN REINTEGRATION INTO SOCIETY.
THE POSITIVE EFFECTS OF SOBER LIVING
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RIPPLE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, CREATING A SAFER, MORE COHESIVE AND HEALTHIER COMMUNITY FOR ALL.THROUGH MY OWN JOURNEY OF RECOVERY, I HAVE WITNESSED THE PROFOUND BENEFITS THAT SOBER LIVING OFFERS.
IT IS ACTED AS A FOUNDATION FOR MY SUCCESS, ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF TO REBUILD MY LIFE, REGAIN SELF-ESTEEM AND NURTURE HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS.
THE STRUCTURED LIVING ENVIRONMENT, COUPLED WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY, PEER SUPPORT AND COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES PROVIDED, HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING ME FIND MY FOOTING ON THE PATH OF RECOVERY.
AND TODAY, NOW I'VE, ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO I LEFT MY SOBER LIVING.
I HAVE A CAR, I HAVE A GREAT JOB.
I'VE LITERALLY, LIKE WITH ALL OF THAT PUT TOGETHER, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT HAD I NOT COME HOME AND HAD A PLACE TO GO.
I LIVE AT 200 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.
I AM A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST WITH THE WARREN COALITION AND ALSO THE HOUSE MANAGER OF THE LANDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH MY JOB AS A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST, I'VE SENT, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY PEOPLE TWO TREATMENT AS MS. KRISTA SPOKE ON.
YOU KNOW, AND THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS WHEN IS WHEN THEY COME HOME, WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR TREATMENT, THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GET HELP, THEY GET THE HELP.
WHEN WE BRING 'EM HOME, YOU KNOW, THE OPTIONS ARE YOU GO BACK TO THE SAME ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU CAME OUT OF AND YOUR SUCCESS IS MINIMAL.
OR WE SEND THEM OUT OF AREA TO DO, TO GO TO SOBER LIVING FOR THE FEMALES NOW, LIKE WE SEND ALL FEMALES TO, TO WINCHESTER, SOME TO ARLINGTON, HAVE SOME IN ROANOKE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HOME, REBUILD THEIR LIVES WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
UM, I KNOW SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE I CAN SPEAK ON, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I AM THERE 24 HOURS UNLESS I'M OUT WORKING.
I'M AT THE HOUSE ALL THE TIME WITH THE GUYS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED WITH VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ONE, ONE CLIENT COME INTO THE HOUSE FROM THE START WITH A, WITH A VEHICLE.
WE'VE ALSO, WE'VE HAD ONE SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO GAIN HIS LICENSE AND GAIN A VEHICLE.
YOU KNOW, UH, VISITORS, VISITORS IS, ARE, IS KIND OF SURPR SPORADIC.
WE MAY HAVE ONE PERSON, WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN ALSO HAS REGAINED, UH, PARTIAL CUSTODY OF HIS KID AND HIS, HIS SIGNIFICANT, OR THE BABY'S MOTHER WILL BRING THE KID TO THE HOUSE AND THEY WILL VISIT IN THE, IN THE LIVING AREA OR GO OUT SOMEWHERE.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHANCES OF US HAVING MULTIPLE VISITORS AT A TIME, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, IT'S VERY LIMITED.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAIN VEHICLES AT THE HOUSE ARE MINE AND I HAVE A SECOND VEHICLE, LIKE ONE OF THE GUYS MENTIONED THAT I DO LET THEM USE TO, TO GO TO WORK.
LIKE WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WORK.
WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH THEIR LIVES.
SO I DO ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT VEHICLE TO GO TO WORK.
UH, I THINK AT MOST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD FOUR VEHICLES IN THE DRIVEWAY AT ONE TIME AND THAT'S NOT, AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
THE PARKING WE HAVE NOW, LIKE WE ACTUALLY LENDED OUT TO THE CHURCH TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE PARKING SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR KIDS AND STUFF.
LIKE, WE HAD TO PARADE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
LIKE, WE HAD PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY COME UP AND ASK IF THEY COULD PARK IN OUR PARKING SPACES.
AND ALSO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES.
WE'VE HAD THREE GENTLEMEN THAT AT WORK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HOUSE AT LOCAL BUSINESSES, AUTOZONE, THERE'S A TIRE BATTERY PLACED UP THE STREET, YOU KNOW, AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GAIN LO GAIN EMPLOYMENT WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
YOU KNOW, AND THE GUYS ALSO VOLUNTEER AT COMMUNITY EVENTS.
LIKE THEY'RE HELPING WITH THE COMMUNITY EVENTS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IS HELPING THEM.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE GUYS VOLUNTEER WHEN WE DO COMMUNITY EVENTS TO HELP WITH THOSE AND GIVE BACK.
UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I GOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A BLESSING NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF, I'M A PERSON IN LONG RECOVERY, BUT FOR ALL THE GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE CAME TO THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD OUR ISSUES AND WE'VE HANDLED 'EM JUST LIKE WE TOLD Y'ALL BEFORE.
WE WOULD LIKE, WE WANT TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE GET HELP.
SOME OF THEM HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE ON, BUT SOME OF 'EM HAS HAD TO MOVE ON AND NOW HAVE THEIR LIVES TOGETHER.
UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE WORK? HOW MANY CLIENTS WORK RIGHT NOW? MM-HMM.
ALL BUT TWO ARE WORKING AND THEY'VE ONLY BEEN WITH US A WEEK.
AND WE HAVE ONE THAT HAS, WAS WORKING THROUGH A TEMP AGENCY.
HE'S, THEY ENDED THAT CONTRACT, BUT HE STARTS REWORKING JANUARY.
YOU MENTIONED ALSO THAT, UH, THEY WORK LOCALLY.
I KNOW THAT ONE GENTLEMAN SAID CISCO, EVERYBODY WORKS LOCALLY AND I BELIEVE, UH, THE YOUNG LADY I SPOKE TO US EARLIER, YOU HAD SAID IF YOU MOVE HERE, THEY'RE GONNA
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WORK AT MARTIN'S OR THEY WORK AT MARTIN'S NOW AND THE WALK WOULD BE SHORTER.DID I IMAGINE THAT? NO, I HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT WORKS.
I DO HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT WORKS AT MARTIN'S.
AND WE'VE HAD GENTLEMEN WORK AT AUTOZONE, LIKE I SAID, AND THE TIRE AND BATTERY PLACE UP THE STREET BY SEVEN 11.
WHAT DO THEY DO DURING THE DAY IF THEY DON'T WORK? SO MOST OF THE TIME DURING THE DAY, IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING, WE HAVE GUYS, WE GO TO MEETINGS DURING THE DAY.
UH, WE GO TO WINCHESTER FOR MEETINGS.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LOCAL MEETINGS EITHER.
IT'S ANOTHER THING WE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD UP, YOU KNOW, OR THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING OR THEY'RE DOING THINGS WITH THEIR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILIES WILL COME MAYBE GET THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
UM, WE HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN WHO WENT TO TREATMENT IN WHITE POST.
YOU KNOW, IF HE'S NOT WORKING DURING THE DAY, LIKE HE GOES TO THAT TREATMENT FACILITY AND GIVES BACK TO TRY TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING UP THROUGH BEHIND IT.
WHAT, WHAT HAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP BEEN WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I, I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE, WE ALL WERE ALL TOGETHER WITH THIS, UM, THE HOUSE ON 200 ROYAL AVENUE.
UM, THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE MM-HMM.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THEM SINCE THEN? OR DEVELOP ANY KIND OF RELATIONSHIP? I, THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS RIGHT BESIDE US THAT, THAT HAD ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, LIKE AT FIRST WE MOVED IN, THEY WERE VERY STANDOFFISH.
THEY DIDN'T WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH US.
YOU KNOW, THOSE SORT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEN IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.
THEY, THEY BROUGHT US, THEY HAD A COOKOUT OR SOMETHING.
WHEN WE HAVE GUYS THAT THE BREAD GOES BAD, THEY HAVE A LITTLE CHICKEN COOP.
WE TAKE THE CHICKEN, THE BREAD OVER FOR THEM TO FEED THEIR CHICKENS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE INTERACTIONS HAVE BEEN WELL.
UM, THERE'S A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET, UM, THAT WAS ALSO HERE.
LIKE, THEY HAD CONCERN OVER THEIR KIDS.
LIKE SINCE THEN, ALL THE GUYS, LIKE THE KIDS WAVE AT 'EM, THEY TALK TO 'EM.
THE PARENTS ARE VERY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NICE TO ALL THE GUYS.
LIKE THERE'S BEEN NO ISSUES WITH THEM WHATSOEVER.
UH, ALSO YOU BROUGHT UP VIRGINIA AVENUE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WAS BROUGHT UP.
MOST OF OUR CLIENTS ARE ON PROBATION AND WE HAVE MADE IT, I HAVE MADE IT WITH PROBATION.
I WORK HAND IN HAND WITH PROBATION QUITE REGULARLY.
IT IS A CONDITION PUT IN THE GUYS THAT COMES TO THE HOUSE THAT THEY'RE NOT TO GO TO THAT RESIDENCE ON TWO, I DON'T REMEMBER.
IT'S ON VIRGINIA AVENUE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT HOUSE IS A KNOWN PROBLEM.
AND IF I SEE THEM GO THERE, THEN I WILL, I DO REPORT IT TO PROBATION.
SINCE, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, UM, I'LL BRING THIS UP.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, AND I NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS LOCATION IS THE BP GAS STATION.
AND YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE HERE LONG TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS AT THAT STATION.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE WITH RESPECT TO THAT? AND SO LIKE I'VE ALREADY ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PROBATION ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THE INTERACTIONS THAT GO ON THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT, BECAUSE IT IS A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA FOR WHAT, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO VERY WELL WATCHED.
YOU KNOW, SO LIKE ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE OVER THERE, THAT WOULD BE REPORTED TO PROBATION, THAT THEY'RE OVER THERE SEEN TALKING TO.
SO-AND-SO, SO YOU TALKING TO HERE AND THERE? 'CAUSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO USE AND WHEN THEY GO AND USE, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT ANYBODY'S DEATH IN MY CONSCIENCE.
SO LIKE, IF I SEE 'EM OVER THERE DOING THINGS THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, I WILL REPORT IT AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE VIOLATED OR WHATEVER.
I'D RATHER SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE TODAY THAN, YOU KNOW, TRY TO HAVE 'EM RUN AROUND AT A GAS STATION OR A HOUSE ON VIRGINIA AVENUE AND, AND SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED.
PHILLIP VAUGHT 10 42 HARMONY HALL ROAD.
UM, I WAS PART OF THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING THE LOT, UH, THE LANDING AT 200 ROYAL AVENUE, WHICH HAS BEEN A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR THE COMMUNITY AS CONCERNED CITIZENS.
WE SPEAK A LOT AND DISCUSS A LOT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT FRONT OIL NEEDS.
WELL, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WE NEED MORE THAN THE SECOND RESIDENTIAL RECOVERY PROGRAM IN FRONT ROYAL.
BEFORE THE LANDING, WE HAD ZERO LOCATIONS IN COMPARISON TO WINCHESTER, WHICH HAS NUMEROUS LOCATIONS, THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE THAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AS KNOW SUBSTANCE MISUSE IS ONE OF THISS COMMUNITY'S BIGGEST CHALLENGES.
IT WREAKS HAVOC IN OUR SCHOOLS, OUR WORKFORCE, OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, OUR FAMILIES, AND IN OUR HOMES.
THIS PROPERTY WILL PROVIDE A SAFE REGULATED HOME FOR 15 PARTICIPANTS WHO'VE, WHOSE LIVES CAN BE FOREVER CHANGED BY
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THIS RECOVERY PROGRAM.THAT'S 15 FAMILIES WHOSE LIVES WILL CHANGE.
THAT'S 15 JOBS THAT WILL BE FILLED IF YOU SEEK TO CHANGE FRONT ROYAL'S FUTURE FOR THE BETTER.
YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE WARREN COALITION.
AND THIS PROGRAM IS A WAY TO DO JUST THAT.
TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, UH, WITH REGARD TO PARKING, IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT WE HAVE MET THE OBJECTIVE STANDARD ESTABLISHED BY ZONING, WHICH IS WHY YOUR STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
THIS IS NOT A SUBJECTIVE ISSUE, THIS IS OBJECTIVE.
YOU, YOU HAVE CREATED STANDARDS IN YOUR CODE AND WE HAVE MET THOSE.
I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION.
I THINK IT'S A DANGEROUS MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL NOT BE MAINTAINED.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF UNFAIR STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH THE WRONG ATTITUDE ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE IN RECOVERY.
AS FOR THE LOCATION, I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, IF NOT HERE THEN WHERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CORRIDOR OR ON ROYAL AVENUE, OR AT ANY OF THE LOCATIONS OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK IN GENERAL, YOU SEE ACTIVE SUBSTANCE MISUSE THAT IS RAMPANT AND THAT INCLUDES THE BP.
THIS LOCATION, HOWEVER, IS PERFECT BECAUSE IT WILL STAND IN STARK CONTRAST TO WHAT'S ALREADY AROUND IT.
AND THAT IS AN UNREGULATED AREA WHERE LOTS OF SUBSTANCE MISUSE IS UNREGULATED.
THIS WILL BE A BEACON OF HOPE THAT PROVIDES A CLEAN, WELL-MANAGED AND REGULATED PROPERTY AND PROGRAM.
THIS IS NOT SOME DARK, SOME DARK PLACE WHERE NEGATIVE IMAGES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SUBSTANCE MISUSE OCCURS.
IT IS A PLACE THAT I CAN SEE AS AT THE LANDING IS A PLACE OF HELP AND HEALING.
NOW, BACK TO MY POINT OF WHAT FRONT ROYAL NEEDS, A COMMUNITY OF THIS SIZE SHOULD HAVE MORE LOCATIONS LIKE THIS PROGRAM.
IN THE ABSENCE THEREOF, THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE REAL SADNESS MATERIALIZE.
THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE REAL HOMELESSNESS MATERIALIZE.
THIS IS NOT A HOMELESS SHELTER, BUT IF WE DO NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT UNDERLIE THIS COMMUNITY, YOU WILL SEE THE NEED FOR JUST THAT.
SINCE OUR ESTABLISHMENT AT THE LANDING, IT HAS SERVED AS A MODEL FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR PROPERTY, MAKE IT FINANCIALLY VIABLE, AND ALSO TO HELP PEOPLE.
AT THE SAME TIME, I SUSPECT THAT THIS LOCATION WILL SERVE AS ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN A NONPROFIT THAT'S WELL ESTABLISHED HAS BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND PROPERTY OWNERS WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT FRONT ROYAL AS ITS PARTICIPANTS HAVE A SAFE, CLEAN, AND REGULATED HOME, OR SUBSTANCE MISUSE IS ADDRESSED.
JOB TRAINING AND PERMANENT HOUSING ARE SOUGHT, SOUGHT AFTER THE LANDING HAS BEEN A SUCCESS AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THIS WILL BE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE LAST PERSON WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT? OKAY, HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ANY APPLICANT REBUTTAL OR OR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS A MOTION, BUT IT WASN'T A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
THE, I'M, I'M THRILLED TO HEAR THAT THE FACILITY ON 200 ROYAL AVENUE IS DOING WELL.
UM, I WAS VERY EXCITED TO, TO VOTE FOR THAT.
I'M TORN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR THE COMMENT, IF NOT HEAR WHERE, AND WE NEED MORE PLACES LIKE THIS.
I'M WRONG IF I DON'T ALSO LOOK AT THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE WRITTEN US ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO I I I I'M VERY TORN ON THAT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, YES, WE, WE NEED A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION.
UH, CHAIRMAN WELLS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE
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TO, UH, PROVE THIS SUP WITH THE PROVISIONS OF OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS, SPECIFICALLY THE PARKING LOT.THAT WAS THE ONLY THING, UH, JOHN THAT I BELIEVE WAS CAPTURED, WASN'T IT? WAS THERE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS? IT'S NOTED ON THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR STAFF REPORT.
ALL RIGHT, MAYBE I DIDN'T SEE THAT UNDER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'LL REMOVE MY MOTION WHILE I CATCH UP.
SO LET ME, UH, AMEND MY MOTION.
UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, GIVEN, UH, THAT WE ENFORCE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LODGING ROOMS OR UNITS SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT AND TWO, THAT THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE 10 SPACES.
OKAY, NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE WANNA DISCUSS.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING, MR. WARE, THE COMMENT WAS MADE, UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT AND, AND I'M, I MAY HAVE JUST MISSED IT.
WHERE PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS ACCURATE WITH THE CONDITION THAT IS ACCURATE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WE LISTED THERE.
THERE'S TWO CONDITIONS THAT WE LISTED THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.
ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND WITH THAT IT IS PASSED AND WILL BE, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPLICATION 2 3 0 0 700.
A REZONING APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY SKYLINE REALTY INVESTMENTS, LLC TO REZONE 29 WEST DUCK STREET, MR. WHERE REZONING APPLICATION 2 3 0 0 700.
THE APPLICATION FOR REVIEW REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECLASSIFY 29 WEST DUCK STREET, IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP NUMBER 28 12 3 DASH 25 IN THE ADJOINING PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP NUMBER 28 12 3 DASH 28 FROM C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UH, THAT AREA IS OUTLINED RIGHT HERE.
THOSE TWO PARCELS, UH, TO THE R THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IN RED ON THE MAP, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY C ONE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 450 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST DUCK STREET IN NORTH SHENANDOAH AVENUE, US THREE 40.
INCLUDED WITHIN THE PACKET IS THE STAFF REPORT, THE REZONING APPLICATION, AND A SURVEY PLAN SHOWING THE TWO PARCELS.
THAT'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE LOT.
THE ONE, UH, LOT CURRENTLY HAS A STRUCTURE ON IT.
THE LARGER PARCEL TO THE LEFT DOES NOT
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HAVE ANY STRUCTURES ON IT.UH, AS OF NOW, THERE IS THE PLA THAT WAS SUPPLIED WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE THERE AND THE VACANT PARCEL HERE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAUSED FOR THIS AREA TO BE COMMERCIAL WITH MIXED USE IN THE ADJACENT AREAS AND NO PROFFERS WERE MADE BY THE APPLICANT.
ANY QUESTIONS? YES, JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IT FROM COMMERCIAL TO R THREE.
UM, PROBABLY WITH THE INTENT OF, UM, TOWNHOUSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT AGAIN, NEEDED, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY NO, PROFFERS, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT DUCK STREET IS AS WIDE AS IT CAN BE, UH, DUE TO THE TOWN.
SO I, AND MAYBE I SHOULD BE ASKING THE APPLICANT, BUT DO WE REQUIRE, UH, CURB, GUTTER AND SIDEWALK AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPAL OR IS THAT A, IS THAT A PROFFER? I'M, I'M UNCLEAR ON THAT AND MAYBE WHEN MR. HOLLOWAY SPEAKS, HE COULD ANSWER THAT.
WELL, SITE DEVELOPMENT DOES REQUIRE CURB AND GUTTER.
IF THERE'S ABSENCE OF CURB AND GUTTER DEVELOPMENT DOES REQUIRE CURB AND GUTTER.
UH, ALSO, UH, THEY CAN ASK FOR A WAIVER FROM TOWN COUNCIL NOT TO INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER, BUT WITH DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE PROCESS, YES, UH, CURB AND GUTTER WOULD BE REQUIRED ON THAT PARCEL.
SORRY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE ABOUT, UH, WHEN WE SAY NO PROFFERS, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE THROUGH THE FUTURE TO EVER GET A SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE, BUT I'VE NOTICED OTHER TOWN HOME COMMUNITIES FURTHER WEST ON DUCK STREET HAVE IN FACT SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF 'EM ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH THIS IS THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DUCK STREET.
SO MAY WE, WE CAN BRING IT UP WITH THE APPLICANT.
UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? UH, I, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
CHRIS HOLLOWAY FOR ROYAL VIRGINIA.
MR. HOLLOWAY, UM, BESIDE THE SIDEWALK ISSUE MM-HMM.
THERE'S NO BUILDINGS, BUT THERE'S SLABS, THERE'S, YEAH, IT, IT, IT LOOKS AS IF MAYBE YEARS AGO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FOUNDATION FOR SOMETHING.
UM, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY MOVED OUT, UM, WHATEVER THEY LEFT WHATEVER WAS THERE, IT'S THERE NOW.
UM, AND THE EXISTING HOUSE IS, IF ANYONE'S, Y'ALL ARE MORE WELCOME TO COME OUT AND GO IN, BUT IT'S FALLING APART.
AND TO DO ANYTHING COMMERCIAL THERE, THE PROPERTY IS TOO NARROW FOR ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT, ANY TYPE OF PARKING.
UM, SO WITH THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF 66 SHOPPING, UH, WE WERE HOPING TO GET THIS REZONED TO R THREE, TO, UH, BUILD TOWNHOMES THROUGH THERE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TO ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, UM, HOME BUYERS AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, UM, LIKE I SAID, AFFORD SOME, UH, I MEAN, PROVIDE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR, UH, PEOPLE.
SO, AND YEAH, CURB AND GUTTER IS REQUIRED.
UM, AND I, I THINK THERE'S CURB THERE.
NOW I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE I THINK IT IS.
UM, BUT, UH, SIDEWALKS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR SIDEWALKS WITH, UH, THE PARKING OFF STREET PARKING AND EVERYTHING.
UH, IF, IF WE DID EIGHT, EIGHT TOWN HOMES, IT WOULD ALMOST BE LIKE YOU'D HAVE A SIDEWALK ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE, THE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT DRIVEWAYS.
I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME FURTHER WEST THAT ARE, ARE JUST AS YOU TALKED ABOUT FARTHER DOWN.
UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE, WHAT'S THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT DOWN FARTHER? UH, IS IT HENSEL? IS IT, NO, IT'S, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS STILL IN THE TOWN LIMITS, NOT AT HENSEL STONE.
UM, I MEAN, IF YOU DRIVE THE LENGTH OF DUCK STREET TO FOREST HILL, RIGHT? THERE ARE SECTIONS OF NEWER HOUSES DOWN THERE.
AND, AND THEY ARE ALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
IF, IF THE TOWN WAS EVER GOING TO COMPLETE A SIDEWALK.
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I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS ON THE COMP PLAN TO BE HONEST, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CONSIDERATION OF PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK ON, ON YOUR FRONTAGE.
ARE YOU GONNA, IF YOU DO TOWNHOUSES, IS IT GONNA BE OFF STREET PARKING? 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE OH YES.
YEAH, IT WILL BE RIGHT OFF STREET.
PARKING'S REQUIRED FOR ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? LOOKS LIKE NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ADDITIONAL? NO.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD MOTION FOR TO MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR REZONING APPLICATION NUMBER 2 3 0 0 7 0 0 TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECLASSIFY 29 WEST DUCK STREET, IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO ZERO A ONE DASH THREE DASH 25, AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO ZERO A 12 DASH THREE DASH 28 FROM C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT TO R THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, MS. POTTER? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES.
WE'LL MOVE THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
ITEM OF BUSINESS IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IS APPLICATION NUMBER 2 3 0 0 7 3 6.
REZONING APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY COOK REALTY.
MR. WHERE, UH, APPLICATION PERMIT 23.
7 36 IS, UH, FOR APPLICATION REVIEW, THE REQUEST AMENDMENT OF ZONING MAP, TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECLASSIFY 11 21, 11 25, AND 1135.
JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP NUMBER 20 A 10 DASH THREE DASH EIGHT 20 A 10 DASH THREE DASH EIGHT A AND 20 A 10 DASH THREE DASH NINE A FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THESE LOTS HERE, UH, TO COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HILLVIEW STREET AND JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY.
SO THOSE AREAS OUTLINED IN RED IS CURRENTLY C ONE.
THE OTHER ONES THERE ADJACENT TO IT IS R ONE, UH, INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR PACKET, UH, IS YOUR STAFF REPORT THE REZONING APPLICATION? UH, THE PLATT SHOWING THE THREE PARCELS.
OTHER PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT YOU PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, IF YOU'RE AWARE, WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS TO OPERATE A SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THE THREE PARCELS, BUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAUSED FOR THIS AREA TO BE ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED USE, WHICH ALLOWS OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND HOTELS.
UH, THERE'S A PLAT OF THE, UH, THREE PARCELS WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURES AND THE PARKING THAT'S THERE.
UH, THE USES PERMITTED UNDER THE C ONE.
UH, THERE'S NUMEROUS, UH, USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE C ONE DISTRICT, UH, THAT YOU, UH, SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED DURING THE WORK SESSION.
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UP ON THE SCREEN IN CASE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REVIEW THOSE.BUT THOSE ARE THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, FOR THE C ONE TO OPERATE IN THE C ONE DISTRICT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
HAS THE APPLICANT MET THE CONDITIONS OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION? NO, THEY HAVE NOT.
THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED.
WILL THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY MAKE THOSE CONDITIONS GO AWAY OR WOULD THEY STILL BE APPLICABLE? YES.
THAT, THAT, THAT IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
NOW WHETHER THE OWNER DESIRES TO USE THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IT IS STILL VALID FOR THE PROPERTY.
IT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT WITH THE OWNER.
I'M NOT SURE THEN THAT I ASKED THE QUESTION CORRECTLY.
UM, IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED COMMERCIAL, THE CONDITIONS THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WILL THEY, ARE THEY STILL A VALID CONCERN OR BECAUSE REZONING A COMMERCIAL, WOULD THAT MAKE THOSE, UM, UH, THINGS GO AWAY? THE SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENTS, IF THEY ARE OPERATING THIS WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THEN THAT IS REQUIRED.
SO THEY, I GUESS, POTENTIALLY COULD CHANGE THE USE OF THE ONES THAT WERE LISTED, BUT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS FOR THE PROPERTY.
MAYBE I SHOULD JUMP IN HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS FOR TOURIST HOMES, ISN'T IT? UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS, YES.
SO IF IT'S REZONED TO C ONE, THAT WOULD BECOME BY RIGHT? WOULDN'T IT? ISN'T THAT THE LIST? YOU SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE REQUIRED, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE SPECIAL USE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE, ARE NOT A MATTER OF RIGHT.
THEY HAVE TO REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.
I'M SHELLY COOK AND I RESIDE AT 65 LEE BURKE ROAD FRONT.
I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.
SO THERE, THE ONE CONDITION THAT HASN'T BEEN MET, LET ME JUST SAY THIS IS A ROOF ON TOP OF THE GAZEBO THAT TIES THE TWO, PUT TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER ON THE SECOND PARCEL.
SO IT'S A LITTLE RIDICULOUS TO ME BECAUSE WHEN YOU TIE A BUILDING TOGETHER, THE GAZEBO JOINS 'EM, IT MAKES IT ONE BUILDING, BUT THEY WANT ME TO PUT A ROOF ON IT AND I WILL.
BUT WE HAD A ROOF, WE HAD A WINDSTORM AND IT'S BEEN VERY COLD, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT WE HAVE MET ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS.
UM, SO I WILL BE PUTTING THAT ON AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE BEFORE ANY OF THIS WOULD GO ANY FURTHER.
UM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER USES THAT I COULD APPLY FOR ONCE THIS IS DONE THAT WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO KEEP IT A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
I COULD USE THE PROPERTY IN ANOTHER WAY AND STILL RENT IT OUT.
AND THAT IS MY INTENTION, UM, GOING FORWARD.
AND I THINK IT'S A BETTER AND A HIGHER AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY RATHER THAN SHORT TERM RENTALS.
UM, I BELIEVE IF YOU ASK MR. WARE, THERE IS HOTEL MOTEL IN THAT DISTRICT IF I, IF I STAND FOR REMEMBERING.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. WARE? YES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE PERMITTED USES.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER USE FOR THIS PROPERTY THAN A, AND I WOULD STILL PUT THE ROOF ON THE STRUCTURE.
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CLEAR.IT'S JUST I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, UH, WITH THE WIND AND, BUT I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, INSPECTIONS WITH MR. WARE ON THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS JUST THAT HAD TO BE DONE AND WE HAD TO GET SOMEONE THAT WOULD COME AND DO THAT.
IT'S KIND OF A SPECIAL THING TO PUT THAT ON TOP.
UM, BUT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN REALLY SOUGHT AFTER BY THE PUBLIC.
WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW OPEN HOUSES AND I'VE SHARED IT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S DONE EVERYTHING THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF BABY SHOWERS.
UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE EVENINGS, GROUPS THAT HAVE HAD FUNDRAISERS THERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S WORKED VERY WELL.
BUT I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT I HOPE THAT SOLIDIFIED THAT ANSWER.
MS. KOCH, UH, I'M GONNA ASK JOHN A QUESTION, BUT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO STAY UP THERE BECAUSE MAYBE YOU HAVE A COMMENT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE POLICE REPORTS IN OUR PACKET.
AND ARE, ARE THEY SOMEHOW TIED TO THIS PROPERTY? UH, UH, THE ONE LOOKED LIKE A TRAFFIC STOP.
THE OTHER ONE, UM, I'M REALLY UNABLE TO TELL WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS YES.
THAT WERE ADDED THAT ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND SOME CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS FROM EMAILS AND LETTERS, UH, THAT THE DIRECTOR THOUGHT WAS PERTINENT FOR YOU TO REVIEW FOR THIS REZONING.
SO SPEAKING TO THAT, THE SECOND EVENT WE HAD WAS A WEDDING AND THEY MADE A CALL.
UM, THE CALL WAS NOT, UM, THEY WERE, WE WERE NOT ISSUED ANY CITATION.
OKAY? SO THE POLICE REPORT SHOWED THAT THEY WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING WRONG.
THERE WAS A ONE CONCERNED CITIZEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE PROPERTY, AND HE SAID THAT THEY HAD TOO MUCH BASS IN THE MUSIC.
SO I HAVE A LETTER IN THERE FROM THE CHURCH, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT WROTE THAT THEY HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS. UM, I HAVE TWO OTHER OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE THAT HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS. BUT MY POINT AND MY CONTENTION TO THIS IS NO MATTER IF IT IS WHAT I'M USING IT FOR, OR IF IT'S A LONG-TERM RENTAL, THERE'S GONNA BE MUSIC, THERE'S GONNA BE COOKOUTS, THERE'S, THERE COULD BE LOUD MUSIC AT ANYTHING.
BUT I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO, IN FACT, I THINK YOU HAVE MORE CONTROL WHEN YOU'RE AN A HOTEL MOTEL OR AIRBNB, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY CAN SAY TO THEM, YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THIS, OR YOU CAN'T STAY IN MY PROPERTY.
IF YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM RENTAL AND THEY, THERE IS NO NOTHING GOVERNING THAT.
BUT I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH MY NEIGHBORS TO TRY SINCE THAT SECOND EVENT.
THERE'S BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OTHER THAN WHEN WE HAD THE PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE WITH SANTA.
SOMEBODY PARKED IN FRONT OF A GENTLEMAN'S DRIVEWAY THAT WAS TWO STREETS OVER.
AND, UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAPPENED, BUT I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING THAT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE OVERFLOW PARKING.
FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVE NOT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, OTHER THAN THE TWO EVENTS THAT I HAD WHERE I OPENED IT TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO USE ANY OVERFLOW PARKING.
THE ONLY OVERFLOW PARKING WE'VE HAD TO USE IS WHEN WE HAD THE TWO PUBLIC EVENTS WHERE I WAS ASKED BY THE COMMUNITY TO PLEASE OPEN IT UP AND THEY WENT OVER TO THE CHURCH.
SO THE CHURCH LETS US USE THE PARKING OVER THERE, BUT WE HAVE 20, I THINK IT'S 27 SPOTS, UM, FOR PARKING, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN MORE THAN AMPLE.
NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A, SOMEBODY AT THE VENUE.
WHAT DOES THE VENUE STIPULATE WHEN THERE'S SOMEONE THERE? HOW LONG THE MUSIC IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND WHAT, IT'S A PACKET INSIDE EACH ROOM THAT STATES THAT IT HAS TO GO BY THE, THE ORDINANCE.
AND WE PROVIDE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE.
MR. WARE HAS SAW THAT CO COPY AS WELL.
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I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS THAT IN OUR CONTRACT WE STIPULATE THAT THEY HAVE TO, AND THEY CAN ONLY BE, THEY CAN'T GO ABOVE SO MANY DECIBELS.I DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THERE PRIOR TO THAT GENTLEMAN CALLING THE POLICE.
SO I WENT BACK, IT'S A LIVE AND LEARN.
I, I'M OLDER
AND SO IT WASN'T THE LOUDNESS OF THE MUSIC, IT WAS THE BASS THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, UPSETTING THEM.
SO I HAD THEM GO BACK AND TELL 'EM THAT THEY HAD TO TWEAK.
SO NOW THEY HAVE TO SIGN A DOCUMENT SAYING IT CAN'T GO ABOVE THIS MANY DECIBELS AND IT HAS TO BE OFF, HAS TO GO LOWER AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, LOWER AT NINE O'CLOCK AND OFF BY 10 O'CLOCK.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A PERSON THAT HAS TO BE A CONTACT PERSON WITHIN THE GROUP THAT IF WE GET A COMPLAINT, WE HAVE A POINT OF CONTRACT CONTACT THAT WE CAN CALL THAT'S IN THE VENUE.
BUT WE'VE ONLY HAD THREE WEDDINGS.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN EVENTS.
LIKE WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED FROM, UM, FEBRUARY THE 22ND TILL APRIL THE 22ND.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS RENTING IT AND THEY'RE HAVING A SYMPOSIUM ON THE HOLY SPIRIT THERE.
UM, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE STAYING THERE LONG TERM IN THE CABINS FROM THE CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT OVER THE WINTER MONTHS.
SO THERE'S REALLY, IT'S MOSTLY THE SUMMER MONTHS AND CONTRACTUALLY WE'RE SEEING MORE, UH, FAMILY REUNIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAN WE ARE WEDDINGS, SMALL GATHERINGS.
BUT I REALLY HAVEN'T MADE A FORMAL DECISION ON WHAT I'M GONNA DO OR HOW I'M GONNA, ONCE I GET THE REZONING, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND REALLY GO THROUGH IT AND DECIDE WITH MY TEAM WHAT'S THE BEST APPROACH FOR AND THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
SO I DON'T WANNA SAY I'M GONNA DO ONE THING AND THEN NOT DO IT, BUT I WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS WITH THAT OTHER.
ALRIGHT, I'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APPLICATION NUMBER 2 3 0 0 7 3 6.
I HAVE NO SPEAKER SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION HEARING AND SEEING NONE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR REZONING APPLICATION NUMBER 2 3 0 0 7 3 6.
TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECLASSIFY 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 5 AND 1 1 3 5.
JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP TWO ZERO A ONE ZERO DASH THREE DASH EIGHT EIGHT A AND NINE A FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MS. POTTER? CHAIRMAN WELLS? YES.
AND WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE THIS, UH, OR FORWARD THIS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL.
[VII. COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS]
OF BUSINESS.WE HAVE, UH, ITEM SIX, SEVEN, UH, COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS.
ARE THERE ANY MOVING TO THE NEXT
[VIII. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT]
ITEM OF BUSINESS? WE HAVE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT.MR. WARE, ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT? YES.
UH, CONTAIN IN YOUR PACKET IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, UH, REPORT FOR NOVEMBER OF 2023.
A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS WITH THAT.
UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT ISSUED 25 ZONING PERMITS THAT GIVES US, UH, WITH THAT AND THE YEAR TO DATE NUMBER IS AT 385.
THAT IS, UH, BASICALLY, UH, OVER A HUNDRED MORE THAN WE DID IN 2022.
AND WE WILL APPROACH PROBABLY OVER A HUNDRED MORE THAN WHAT WE DID IN 2021.
UH, SO WE'VE BEEN QUITE BUSY IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'VE ISSUED, UH, 19 CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES IN NOVEMBER.
BRING THE YEAR TO DATE TOTAL TO 3 39.
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UH, PROBABLY ON SCHEDULE, UH, A LITTLE LESS THAN FROM 2022.THAT MAY BE IN ATTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, LACK OF RAIN THIS SUMMER FOR HIGH GRASS, WHICH IS SOMETIMES, UH, HAPPENS, UH, FOR CODE VIOLATIONS.
UM, WE'VE HAD 62, UH, SIGN PERMITS YEAR TO DATE THAT FAR EXCEEDS THE PREVIOUS, UH, NUMBERS FOR THE PREVIOUS FOUR YEARS FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS, UH, ANNUALLY.
AND, UH, BUSINESS LICENSES IS RIGHT ON YEAR TO DATE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN AS A TREND FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
UH, THERE'S OTHER, UH, CATEGORIES THERE THAT WE HAVEN'T TRACKED IN THE PAST.
UH, BUT OUR YEAR TO DATE RIGHT OF AWAY UTILIZATION PERMITS IS UP TO 42.
SO, UH, STAFF HAS BEEN, UH, SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, ISSUING PERMITS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES.
UH, A COUPLE THINGS TO TAKE NOTE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THE REWRITE OF CHAPTER 1 75 AND 1 48.
UH, WE'VE HAD THAT, UH, WEEKLY, UH, MEETINGS WITH SUMMIT REGARDING THE REWRITE OF THOSE.
UH, WE WAS HOPING TO HAVE A DRAFT DOCUMENT HERE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN DECEMBER.
UH, BUT, UH, TIME'S KIND OF GOT AWAY FROM US.
WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN JANUARY FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
WE ALSO ARE WORKING ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2025 TO 2029.
UH, THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS DID NOT MEET IN NOVEMBER, BUT THEY DID MEET IN DECEMBER.
UH, SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE REPORT FROM, UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT.
MS. POTTER WAS THE SECOND WOOD.
MR. WOOD COMMISSIONER WOOD CHAIRMAN WELLS? YES.
AND WITH THAT MEETING, ADJOURN.