* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALL. [Board of Architectural Review on September 12, 2023.] SO WE CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR TUESDAY THE 12TH, THE BOARD REVIEW. UM, GET A ROLL CALL REAL QUICK. CHAIRMAN WATERS PRESENT. UH, VICE CHAIRMAN RODIN HEISER IS ABSENT. MS. SNYDER? YES. MS. TOLER? YES. MR. VAUGHN IS ABSENT. OKAY. WE'VE GOTTA APPROVE SOME MINUTES FROM MAY 16TH IN THE WORK SECTION. UM, I FOR MEETING EVERYTHING SEEM TO BE IN THERE. DID YOU GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT? YEAH, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ALRIGHT. ON THE, I GUESS MAY 16TH. ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE AUGUST 8TH MINUTES. UM, I WAS HERE FOR MAY I HAVE THE, WERE YOU HERE FOR MAY? YES. OKAY, YOU'RE RIGHT. SORRY. I'M SORRY. SORRY. YEAH, I GUESS WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT DO, CAN WE? UM, NO. OKAY. WELL, SO WE'LL CAN, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT ONE TO THE NEXT ONE UNLESS HE SHOWS UP. OKAY. SO NOW ON TO TODAY'S BUSINESS. WE HAD, UM, THE RIGHT PAGE HERE. OKAY. 2 37 CHURCH STREETS. UM, JOHN, IF YOU COULD GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW FOR KATIE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, THE APPLICATION IS 2 3 0 0 4 1 8. IT'S A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2 37 CHURCH STREET, NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CHURCH AND FOR EAST PROSPECT. UH, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION IS FOR THE REMOVAL OF EXISTING ROOF COMPONENTS, THE METAL ROOF, RAPTORS, ROOF DECK, THE PURLINS, ET CETERA, AT THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE. THEN ADD A SECOND STORY TO INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA, BUT NOT INCREASING THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING. INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS A STAFF REPORT, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION, HISTORIC DISTRICT SURVEY, THE FRONT SIDE AND REAR LAYOUT DRAWINGS. UH, THE BRIEF HISTORY OF THE BUILDING PRESENT FROM THE PRESERVATION ASSOCIATIONS OF VIRGINIA DATED 1996. UH, THE ESTIMATED DATE OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE WAS 1910. IT'S A TYPICAL EARLY 20TH CENTURY DWELLING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE FOREMAN SCALE OF THIS HOUSE DOES ADD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER. UM, WE'LL HAVE A FEW SLIDES HERE THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. UM, FOR SOME REASON, CALLING NOT BORN, OH, IT WENT TO THE BOTTOM FOR SOME REASON. UH, CAN YOU JUST ROLL IT DOWN? YEAH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. THAT'S THE HOUSE, UH, PICTURE TAKEN, UH, 1996 OF THE HOME, UH, WHEN THEY DID THE SURVEY. UH, THAT'S A, A VIEW OF THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. UH, THE AREA IN QUESTION IS THIS SECTION HERE THAT'S ON THE ONE STORY SECTION HERE. IF YOU COULD ADVANCE THAT SLIDE, YOU WOULD. AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS. THERE'S WHERE IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, NEAR, UH, CHURCH STREET AND EAST PROSPECT INTERSECTION. A LITTLE BIT OF THE REVIEW INFORMATION THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET WITH HISTORICAL INFORMATION. PART OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE REVIEWED, UH, THE LAST MEETING, A LITTLE BIT OF SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION, THE INFORMATION ON YOUR ATTACHMENTS. AND WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS. UH, AERIAL VIEW. AERIAL VIEW OF IT. SO THE REAR, THE PORTION OF THE REAR IS WHERE THIS OLDER ROOF IS. UH, THAT'S THE ONE STORY, UH, PLACE. UH, ON THE, ON THE HOUSE, [00:05:02] UH, THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE BACKYARD, AGAIN, THE PALOR TYPE OF ROOF. UH, A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER. RED IS FOR THE ADDITION. THIS WOULD BE REMOVED AND A SECOND STORY ADDED TO THE BUILDING. AND THERE'S A VIEW OF THE CHIMNEY, UH, AND THE ROOF LINE, DIFFERENT SIZE OF THE ROOF. ANOTHER VIEW OF THE, UH, HOUSE, UH, SHOWING THE REAR PORTION, UH, THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME. UH, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE FRONT AERIAL VIEW. AND AGAIN, TO THE BACK AGAIN THAT THE PORTION IN THE LIGHTER RED IS THE ADDITION. UH, THE AREA WHERE THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AND A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION WOULD BE ADDED TO THE BUILDING, UH, WITH THESE ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO, I DON'T. AND THERE IS, UH, SOME SCHEMATICS IN YOUR, UH, PACKET. PACKET THAT SHOWS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED, UH, THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS. DO WE HAVE THOSE CONNIE OR NOT? UM, JUST I GUESS IN THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY. AND SO I THOUGHT, YEAH, I DIDN'T DO, I DON'T HAVE THE ATTACHMENTS. I JUST HAVE THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY. BUT PART OF YOUR BE ABLE TO BRING IT, GET IT UP HERE IF YOU WANT ME TO. MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE IT JUST A SEC. YOU GO ON AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET THEM UP. OKAY. YEAH, LET'S TRY TO GET THOSE UP IF YOU DON'T MIND. UH, SO THEY CAN BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. AND WE DID HAVE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MONTHLY MEETING. YOU DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, FOR THAT. YOU WOULD YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE, UH, DRAWINGS THAT THEY SUBMITTED FIRST? WELL, I THINK WE CAN JUST DO IT. OR YOU, YOU'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE ROOF LINE. YEAH, WE CAN JUST DISCUSS IT. I MEAN OKAY. WE CAN START. YEAH. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. I GUESS THE MAIN QUESTION I HAD WAS SINCE THE, YOU'VE GOT SUCH A KIND OF A COMPLICATED ROOF AT THE BACK. YOU GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT PITCHES. HOW EXACTLY, I MEAN, THIS IS COMING OFF MM-HMM. AND IT'S GONNA GET A FLOOR DECK. ESSENTIALLY. YOU GONNA BUILD WALLS UP AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS FUNKY WALL HERE. MM-HMM. . SO IS THAT GETTING DEMOED OUT? NO, THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO CONTINUE THE SAME, UH, THE SAME. OH, VERY MUCH. THIS SAME. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A WALL UP HERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. HERE, HERE AND HERE. AND THEN IT'S GONNA COME OUT, THE ROOF IS GONNA COME OUT FROM THE LINE OF THE GUTTER. THAT'S OKAY. IT'LL COME DOWN. NOW WHEN YOU TIE IN, IS IT GONNA COME STRAIGHT ACROSS LIKE THIS? YEAH. UH, NO. I GONNA, I GONNA EXTEND THE THING RIGHT HERE. OKAY. THAT'S GONNA EXTEND OUT. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED. 'CAUSE THAT IT'S NOT CLEAR IN YOUR DRAWING. GOTCHA. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S GONNA COME OUT AND THERE'S GONNA BE THIS PITCH MATCHED. YEAH. AND THEN THAT ROOF IS GONNA COME DOWN LIKE THAT. SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YEAH. FORGIVE MY UPSIDE DOWN. TERRIBLE. I CAN READ IT. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE. SO THIS WALL HERE OR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS WALL? THIS IN YOUR DEMO PROCESS? YEAH, IT'S GONNA COME OUT. SO YEAH, ALL THAT IS COMING OUT. OKAY. I NEED TO CHANGE INSIDE THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW THIS FOR ONE. OKAY. I GOT, I'M NOT SURE YET EXACTLY WHERE HAS BEEN GONNA PUT THE BUTTON, THE WEBSITE FORWARD. I'M NOT SURE YET. HERE. PROFILE. MM-HMM. . YOU GONNA REUSE THEM 'EM OUT, BUMP HIM OUT HERE? PRETTY MUCH. YEAH. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THE DOOR'S GONNA GO FOR THE NEW BEDROOM OR THE NEW BATHROOM WHERE THE S ROLL, YOU KNOW. EXACTLY. WILL GO. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S COOL FIRST BEFORE WE START WORKING ON IT WITH THE ENGINEER OR THE ARCHITECT. RIGHT. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT CLEARS UP A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. UM, ANOTHER ONE. I HAD THIS, YOU SAID THIS CHIMNEY'S GOING, THAT'S NOT A CHIMNEY. ACTUALLY THAT'S A VENTILATION THAT THEY HAD BEFORE. THAT'S COMING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CRAWL SPACE. AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY BUILD THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT A CHIMNEY, IT'S A VENTILATION. HMM. EVERYWHERE. YEAH, BUT IT'S GOING, STAYING. YEAH. NO, I SEEN RIGHT NOW IT'S POSSIBLE. YEAH, THAT'S GOING NOW. OKAY. UM, THIS STUCCO FINISH THAT KIND OF LIKE COARSE PEBBLE DASH FINISH. YEAH. THE SAME. YEAH, THE SAME. YOU DO THE SAME FINISH? YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SAME STANDING SCENE, METAL ROOF, . OKAY. I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE PITCH OF THAT COMING STRAIGHT OUT [00:10:01] FOLLOW, FOLLOWING THE WINDOWS. RIGHT? ESSENTIALLY TAKING THE WINDOWS AND PULLING FLOOR, PUMPING EVERYTHING OUT. YEAH. THEY'RE JUST SIDE WINDOWS. I'M NOT SURE YET. PROBABLY. YEAH. BECAUSE OF THE BATHROOM, WHATEVER THE BATHROOM'S GONNA GO MAYBE. YEAH. BUT WE'RE NOT SURE YET THE WINDOWS. SOME OF THE WINDOWS HAVE SHUTTERS AND SOME OF 'EM DON'T. ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING SHUTTERS BACK ON THE, IF YOU ADD NEW WINDOWS TO THE SIDES, WOULD THEY HAVE SHUTTERS? EH, ON THE SIDES? THEY NO, DON'T HAVE ANY SHUTTERS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK IT'S ONLY FOR THE BACK AND FORTH. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. HE HAS SOME PICTURES FROM THE SIDE. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SOME OF 'EM DO, SOME OF 'EM DON'T. LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. YEAH. WATER SIDE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THERE'S A, I'M GETTING THERE. , I'M HOPING I'M GETTING THERE. WHERE THE HECK, THERE WE GO. THAT'S HIS SKETCH OF RON. THAT'S RON, RIGHT? YEAH. LET GO TO LIKE THE LAST TWO. HAVE THE OKAY, SO THE BACK END. YEAH. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. THEY'RE PROPOSED THERE. YEAH, THERE IT IS THERE. SO POSSIBLY A WINDOW THERE. POSSIBLY NOT. THAT'S WHAT, OKAY. CAN YOU GO DOWN ONE MORE? MM-HMM. , I CAN GET THE MOUSE THERE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WAS THROWING ME OFF THAT. YEAH, . GOTCHA. SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO, THAT'S FINE. UM, YOU USING LIKE, FOR LIKE MATERIALS? I STUCCO FINISH IN THE MIDDLE ROOF. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. THIS PORTION STAY IN THERE. I THINK THAT, OH, THAT LITTLE SHED THING. IS THAT A CRAWL SPACE ENTRANCE OR WHAT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S A CRAWL SPACE THAT'S STAYING. YEAH, THAT'S THE, OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? APPROXIMATELY? SAY EXTENSION MAYBE EIGHT FEET FEET. EIGHT FEET. EXTENS? NO, NO, NO. THE ADDITION FROM THE TOP. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S FINE. IT'S JUST SAYING THAT PROBABLY IT'S LIKE AROUND EIGHT FEET WHAT WE HAVE FROM THE EXTERIOR WALL TO WHERE WE OKAY. SO THAT IT WOULD COME ALL THE WAY OUT. FLUSH. IT. WOULD WAY FLUSH. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE NOT GONNA EXTEND. MAKES SENSE TO ME? NO, NO. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. ALRIGHT. UM, ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S SUBMITTED. , LEMME LOOK BECAUSE THAT'S TRICKY. WE GOTTA SAY THIS, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. SO THE MOTION TO, OKAY ME TO CRACK OUT , I JUST WANNA GET ALL MY NOTES LIKE IN ORDER. SO WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THE ROOF, RIGHT? WE'RE KEEPING THE METAL ROOF KEEPING LIKE FOR LIKE WINDOWS, KEEPING THE STUCCO, PEBBLE DASH STUCCO FINISH. UM, AND THE WINDOWS THAT HAVE, I THINK THOSE WINDOWS AT THE REAR THAT HAVE THE SHUTTERS. IF YOU'RE GONNA PUSH THOSE OUT, KEEP THE SHUTTERS. YES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S DOABLE. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED TO RE AH, TO ADD A SECOND STORY ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE HOME, REMOVE THE EXISTING CHIMNEY AND WITH THIS APPROVAL THEY WILL REMOVE THE CHIMNEY, MAINTAIN THE MATERIAL OF THE EXISTING METAL ROOF ONTO THE NEW ADDITION, CONTINUE LIKE STUCCO MATERIALS ON THE NEW EDITION AND MATCH THE SHUTTER CONFIGURATION ON THE NEW EDITION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. VERY NICE. THAT ALL IT? WELL, GOOD LUCK. THE ROOF LOOKS GREAT. [00:15:01] PERFECT. SO WHAT'S THE SPRAY THE NEXT STEP HERE? PRETTY MUCH. SO THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR JOHN. BILL GRANT, THE, WITH THEIR MOTION, WE WILL GRANT YOU TWO APPROVALS. ONE FOR THE, UH, ZONING PERMIT AND ONE FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. UH, BASICALLY THAT STATES THAT YOUR PERMITTED TO DO THAT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THAT'LL BE A ZONING, UH, WHICH I THINK YOU, UH, LET'S SEE WITH YOUR APPLICATION. I, RIGHT, SO YOU SUBMITTED THE RA UH, SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, UH, WITH THOSE. SO WE WILL APPROVE THOSE. YOU PAID THE FEES FOR 'EM. UM, WE WILL ISSUE ZONING APPROVAL. THOSE WILL COME IN TWO LETTER TYPE FORMS. YOU WILL THEN HAVE TO SUBMIT TO WARREN COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY GET YOUR BUILDING PERMIT. THEY WILL NOT ISSUE THE BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THEY HAVE ZONING APPROVAL. UH, THEY MAY REQUIRE A MORE DRAWINGS THAN YOU HAVE HERE. UH, RIGHT. WITH THE LAYOUT OF YOUR FLOORS AND THE, THE TYPE OF WORK YOU'RE DOING THERE WITH THE LAYOUT, YOU'LL NEED TO PUT A BETTER DRAWING TOGETHER FOR THEM SHOWING YOUR FLOOR JOISTS AND RAFTERS AND EVERYTHING, UH, FOR US, WE CAN APPROVE IT AS IS. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AND YOU'RE NOT, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING CLOSER TO ANY PROPERTY LINES. YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY GONE UP. SO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE IT, BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY LACKING INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY TO APPROVE YOUR BUILDING PERMIT. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE DO YOUR OWN DRAWINGS OR YOU GOING TO GET, UH, WELL WE WHAT WHATEVER'S NEEDED ACTUALLY, RIGHT. SO THAT, YEAH, YOU, YOU PROBABLY, ONCE YOU GET THOSE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU SUBMIT THOSE IN ADDITIONAL FORM TO THE TOWN. SO WE JUST HAVE IT IN RECORD WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO WHEN THEY APPROVED IT THAT THEY, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT THEY'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THERE. SO WE WON'T GET AN APPROVAL FOR YOU GUYS WHEN WE GET YES, YOU'LL GET APPROVAL FROM US. I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO GIVE US A DIGITAL COPY OF YOUR ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS SO WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT. BUT YOU'LL NEED THAT FOR THE COUNTY TO GET YOUR BUILDING APPROVAL AND YOUR BUILDING PERMIT FROM THEM TO DO THE ACTUAL WORK. MM-HMM. DOES THAT KIND OF NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. AS LONG AS YOU HAVE, UH, AN ARCHITECT OR AN ENGINEER TO DO YOUR DRAWING OR YOU DO 'EM YOURSELVES. I I MEAN THAT'S UP TO THE COUNTY. WHAT THEY'LL ACCEPT THERE. HAVE YOU SUBMITTED TO THEM BEFORE? UM, NOT FROM THIS, UH, COMPANY, BUT YEAH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. OKAY. OKAY. IF YOU HAVE SOME ARCHITECT THAT'LL, YOU KNOW, OR SOMEONE TO PUT THE DRAWINGS TOGETHER, UH, AND YOU GO TO THE COUNTY AND TO GET YOUR BUILDING PERMIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TURNAROUND TIME THERE IS. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST YOU WANNA GET STARTED. WE DON'T, ARE NOT IN A RUSH ACTUALLY, BUT OKAY. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT IN OUR CP. OKAY. OKAY. WE'LL EMAIL YOU THE ZONING APPROVAL AND THEN WE'LL ALSO SEND THAT TO WARREN COUNTY AND LET THEM KNOW WE'VE APPROVED IT. CORRECT. WHAT WAS, DO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE EMAIL YOU HAVE FOR, UM, I THINK I EMAILED YOU LIKE I, I VERIFIED IT WITH YOU ON THE PHONE. DO YOU WANNA GIVE IT TO ME AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE? NO, I THINK YOU, YOU GOT MY BROTHER'S NAME. OH, OKAY. I THINK EMAIL. THAT'S FINE. AS LONG AS YOU HAVE, IF YOU CAN HAVE ME, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. SURE. WHAT IS YOUR EMAIL YOU WANT J A V I E R. ANNA AS NICHOLAS. AND DO WHAT? I'M SORRY. J A V I E R N AS NICHOLAS DO NOGALES LAST NAME AND NO VILLA LOST. MA'AM, HAVE YOU WRITE IT? ? I'M SORRY. OKAY. SEE YOU TOMORROW. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANKS FOR COMING, JENNIFER. THANK YOU. SO WE'LL CONCLUDE YOU IN THE EMAIL. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. YOU, YOU, YOU APPLY AS THE APPLICANT. IT'LL COME, BUT I THINK CAESAR WAS SAYING MAYBE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T CHECK YOUR EMAIL. YEAH. OKAY. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL SEND THE EMAIL TO ALL THREE OF YOU. SO IT'S J A V I E R N CORRECT. DOT N O G A L E S? THAT'S CORRECT. PERFECT. OKAY. WE'LL JUST SEND YOU THE ELECTRONIC COPY AND ALSO SEND THAT TO THE COUNTY. THEY'LL HAVE A RECORD OF IT. PERFECT. SO YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE IT TO THEM. THEY'LL HAVE A RECORD WITH THAT. SO WHENEVER YOU SUBMIT YOUR BUILDING PERMIT FOR THAT, THEY ALREADY HAVE A RECORD THAT YOU HAVE MET ZONING APPROVAL FROM THE TOWN. OKAY. AND THAT KIND OF SPEEDS UP THE PROCESS. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT IN A HURRY, [00:20:01] I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOU PROBABLY YOU NEED TO GET APPROVAL HERE BEFORE YOU SPENT TIME AND EFFORT CORRECT. DOING THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS. YES. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. WE'LL GET IT OUT, UH, DAYS, TUESDAY, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK FOR SURE. AND WE'LL GET AN EMAIL OUT TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEP. ALRIGHT THEN. GOOD LUCK. YEP. THANK YOU FOR COMING. . ALRIGHT, HAVE ALRIGHT. OTHER BUSINESS. WE GOT, YOU WANNA GO BACK AND DO THE MINUTES SINCE HE'S HERE? YES. ALRIGHT. YEAH, LET'S BACK UP. SO WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE AUGUST 8TH MINUTES. THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH APPROVERS. THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH APPROVERS WASN'T THERE? I CAN'T APPROVE IT. I THINK YOU READ OVER THOSE MR. SO FOR THE AUGUST, AUGUST 8TH MEETING MINUTES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. UH, GIMME ONE SECOND AND I'LL SECOND YOU THAT. THAT WAS THE GUY. YEAH. ONE MOMENT. YEAH. UH, I'LL MAKE A MO I'LL SECOND THAT, UH, ON HERE. OKAY. OTHER BUSINESS WE'VE GOT, WHERE ARE MY NOTES FROM? KATIE AND I HAD A CALL WITH, UM, THE FOLKS FROM, UM, WHAT'S THEIR GROUP? THE, THE DIOCESE OF ARLINGTON. IT WAS THE THANK YOU. THE WORK CAMP. UH, THE WORK CAMP PEOPLE. YEAH. AND IT WAS AWESOME. UM, THEY'VE GOT, UH, AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM WHERE THEY GO AROUND, THEY SET UP THIS CAMP EVERY YEAR AND THEY, THEY KIND OF MOVE TO DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY BRING IN LIKE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, ALL THESE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THEN HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS TO KIND OF CHAPERONE THEM. AND LOCAL CONTRACTORS THAT ARE AFFILIATED WITH THE DIOCESE TO CHAPERONE CHAPERONES. THEY ALL GET TOGETHER FOR A WEEK AND GO OUT AND DO ALL THESE PROJECTS. THEY DO DECKS AND PAINTING AND I NEED THEM . YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN GET 'EM, THEY DO WINDOWS, THEY DO ROOFS. YEAH. BUT THEY DO SHINGLE ROOFS. RIGHT. YEAH. AND IT'S, UM, IT'S REALLY SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY WELL ORGANIZED AND THEY'RE VERY EAGER TO TALK TO US AND WORK WITH US. AND YOU CAN, THERE'S A WINDOW TO GET APPLICATIONS IN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEIR WORKLOAD FILLS UP PRETTY FAST BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE A WEEK'S WORTH OF TIME. UM, BUT I THINK IT'D BE, THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO PROPERTIES IN TOWN THAT WE KNOW MAY NEED ASSISTANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGALITY IS OF THAT, BUT I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S AS SIMPLE AS A DOOR FLYER THAT SAYS, HEY, MAYBE YOU SHOULD APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM. THEY COME ONCE A YEAR AND FIX YOUR HOUSE FOR FREE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE TALKING EXCLUSIVELY IN HISTORIC DISTRICT? WELL, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO I MEAN, DO WE KNOW NUMBER OF PROJECTS THEY CAN DO IN A WEEK OR, IT'S BASED ON THE, UM, IT'S A LOT THIS SUMMER. I THINK THIS, THIS PAST SUMMER THEY DID IT IN JUNE AND I THINK THEY SERVED LIKE 80 HOMES. YEAH. YEAH. IN WHAT AREA? IN WINCHESTER AREA. WINCHESTER, ANYWHERE WITHIN 45 MINUTES OF LIKE THE, THE AREA THAT THEY ARE BASED OUT OF, THEY BASE THEMSELVES AT LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL GYMNASIUMS. SO THEY'LL SET UP SHOP AT A GYMNASIUM AND IT'S LITERALLY 600 KIDS ON COTS. YEAH. NO CELL PHONES. IT'S LIKE, IT'S A, IT'S A TRUE WORK CAMP. I MEAN THEY SH COLD SHOWERS. ARE THESE KIDS THAT ARE BAD ? NO. . ARE THEY GETTING VOLUNTEER OR JUST TO VOLUNTEER? IT'S EXTREME VOLUNTEERING. IT'S A WEEK OF SACRIFICE FOR THE CHURCH AND YOUR COMMUNITY. AND THESE, IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, LIKE, MAN, I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD [00:25:01] DO THAT. MORE STUFF THEY DID IN THE THIRTIES. YEAH, IT'S LIKE C C C. YEAH. EXCEPT YOU DON'T GET PAID . I DIDN'T GET MUCH THEN. YEAH. UM, YEAH, 600 TEENS, HUNDRED 50 ADULTS. A HUNDRED CONTRACTORS, 200 SUPPORT STAFF BASE CAMP AT A LOCAL SCHOOL. THEY DO 130 OR SO PROJECTS A YEAR. UM, APPLICATION CUTOFFS JANUARY 15TH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK YOU. SO THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION CUTOFF JANUARY 15TH, SO YEAH. UM, ONLY SO THEY WOULD ORGANIZE AND THEN DO THEM THE FOLLOWING JANUARY SUMMER. RIGHT. SO THEY KEEP ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND THEN THEY REVIEW 'EM AND THEN THEY PRIORITIZE 'EM. THEY HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS OF PRIORITIZING BASED ON NEED AND MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, IF, IF ONE PERSON IS A MORE, I GUESS MORE AFFILIATED WITH THE CHURCH, THEY MIGHT KIND OF SURE. LEAN THAT WAY, BUT IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE YOU, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MEET ANY REAL REQUIREMENTS. YOU JUST HAVE TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T GET YOU THIS YEAR, THEY'LL GET YOU THE NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. AND THE AREA THAT THEY SERVE, THEY ARE, THEY STAY FOR THREE SUMMERS AND THEN THEY MOVE TO ANOTHER AREA. YEAH. SO THIS, SO I THINK THEY JUST FINISHED THEIR SECOND YEAR YEAH. UP IN WINCHESTER. EXACTLY. SO THIS FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND THEN THIS 2024 JUNE, 2024 WILL BE WITHIN THEIR KIND OF RADIUS OF WHERE THEY'RE BASED NOW. SO IF WE CAN GET TO A COUPLE APPLICATIONS, THEN EVEN IF WE JUST SUBMIT THEM OUR, SO ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN, WELL, WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER SIGNATURE AND STUFF. I'M SURE THEY HAVE TO SIGN IT. THE APPLICATION, DO THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION? THEY DO. IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE. SO WILL WE JUST PROVIDE THE LINK? I, YEAH. I DON'T, WE GOTTA DECIDE HOW WE WOULD GET ALL THAT OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE STORAGE DISTRICT. UNLESS, I MEAN, WE COULD PUT IT IN THE, IN THE NEWSLETTER THAT THAT'S GONNA GO OUT FOR LIKE, UM, OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, DECEMBER MM-HMM. THAT NEWSLETTER WILL, WILL GO OUT. THAT'S AN IDEA. . IT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. EVERYONE. AND THEN WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO GET THAT SOON BECAUSE WE'RE HERE, WE'RE HERE WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER IN THAT NEW NEWSLETTER. WE GOTTA GET THAT INFORMATION TO UM, OKAY. MARY LYNN. YEAH. WE'LL NEED A LITTLE WRITE UP BLURB ABOUT IT. OKAY. AND MAY, UH, THE FOLKS WE TALKED TO, UM, WHAT WAS HER, WHAT WAS HER NAME? JAMIE. JAMIE AND AND GENTLEMAN. UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE OTHER, OTHER MAN'S NAME WAS, REMEMBER CARL FOR SOME REASON, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN. SHE, THEY WERE BOTH VERY NICE AND THEY WERE BOTH VERY WILLING TO COME AND MEET WITH US AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS TO, TO, TO TALK WITH EVERYBODY ABOUT IT IN PERSON. GO IN THE NEWSLETTER AND THEN LIKE THAT THIRD MONTH, THE INFO SESSION COULD BE HERE FOR APPLICANT. YEAH. YEAH. GOOD. I JUST THINK, YEAH, THE SOONER WE GET IT IN THE THE NEWSLETTER, THE BETTER. UM, PEOPLE CAN CHECK IT OUT. THAT'S, YEAH, THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE FOR THE YEAR. THAT'LL COME OUT NEXT MONTH. SO THAT'S WHY WE GOTTA GET THIS INFORMATION. SHE'S PROBABLY WORKING ON IT NOW. OKAY. HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO, HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT TOO LATE. I I, I'LL SEND HER AN EMAIL TOMORROW AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT. AND THEN IF YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION AND A LITTLE WRITEUP OR WHATEVER. OKAY. I, I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEADLINE IS FOR THE NEWSLETTER TOMORROW WHEN I TALK TO HER. OKAY. UM, AS A BACKUP TO THAT, I KNOW LAUREN HAS A, AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE KIND OF AT RISK, IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING 'EM THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY OF THE POTENTIALLY GATED WELL, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY WANT TO EVALUATE OR YOU WANT TO YEAH. THOSE THAT MAY BE IN LADDER DISREPAIR OR YOU WANT TO TACKLE SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDS SOME REPAIR. RIGHT. I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY TO IMPROVE. WELL, I THINK MANY, AS MANY PROJECTS AS POSSIBLE WITH THE LIMITED FUNDS AND THE MANPOWER FOR THAT TIME INSTEAD OF, I THINK THE IDEAL, YOU GOTTA FIND THE IDEAL APPLICANT AND THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT RIGHT. LIVES WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS MOTIVATED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT JUST A HOME THAT'S FALLING APART, JUST FALLING APART AND THEY'RE JUST LETTING IT GO AND THEY DON'T CARE. RIGHT. YEAH. SOMEBODY THAT'S KIND OF WANTS TO DO, YOU KNOW RIGHT. AND MAY NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO EXACTLY. SOME OF THE STUFF. EXACTLY. THAT'S WHO WE NEED FOR. YEAH. WELL I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT ON CLOUD AND BLUE RIDGE, THERE'S SOME OLDER, OLDER HOMEOWNERS THAT MIGHT NEED THAT 'CAUSE THEY WOULD [00:30:01] DO IT THEMSELVES WITH THE CAN ANYMORE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. I THINK THE HOMEOWNERS, THE, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY WANNA LOOK AND NOT HOMEOWNERS VERSUS JUST PROPERTY OWNERS UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, YEAH. AS FAR AS BUSINESSES. RIGHT. UM, PRIVATE OWNERS, THEY'D PROBABLY MAKE A MORE POSITIVE IMPACT I WOULD THINK. YEAH, YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, UM, WE WERE ON THE PHONE WITH THEM FOR, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR, FIVE MINUTES OR SO AND IT WAS WOW. IT WAS VERY, THAT'S AWESOME. UH, ENCOURAGING AND EXCITING. MM-HMM. , THEY SEEMED TO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, STEAM BEHIND THEIR, BEHIND THEIR PROJECT. SO WE, IF WE CAN TACK OURSELVES ONTO THAT, UH, IN ANY WAY, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. SO THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS COMING YEAR OR NOT, OR 20 IF THEY GET THEIR APPLICATIONS IN. THAT'S THE THING. IT'S, I, OKAY. WELL THEY HAVEN'T SELECTED WHERE THEIR NEXT BASE IS GONNA BE FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE YEARS FOR 25. YEAH. SO WE DON'T SO YOU MAY GET, POTENTIALLY YOU COULD GET SOME WORK IN 2024 BECAUSE WE'RE WITHIN 45 MILES OF THE BASE. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT THEIR NEXT BASE COULD BE, WE MIGHT BE WITHIN 45 MILES OF THAT. WE COULD YEP. WE VERY WELL. OKAY. I SEE. YEAH. OR THEY COULD BASE HERE RIGHT IN FRONT ROYAL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEFORE. UM, SO I THINK I DID RECEIVE AN APPLICATION IN 2022 FOR, UH, I BELIEVE A DECK. I THINK THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. UM, I REMEMBER 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT WAS TALKING ABOUT YEAH. SHE WAS TRYING TO GET THE BUILDING PERMITS AND DIDN'T REALIZE SHE NEEDED TO GET BUILDING PERMITS TO DO A DECK REPAIR PER SE. I THINK THAT WAS I ED, SHE DIDN'T MENTION THIS. YEAH. AND THEY, UM, THEY HELP 'EM WITH GETTING PERMITS AND THEY DO EVERYTHING BY A BOOK. OKAY. WHICH WAS REFRESHING TO HEAR. ANY WHO, WE'LL GET YOU A, A BLURB FOR THE NEWSLETTER. HOPEFULLY WE CAN SQUEEZE THAT IN. RIGHT. AND, UM, AND WE JUST WANNA PUT IT IN THE, YOU THINK JUST IN THE NEWSLETTER OR YOU WANT A THAT GOES OUT IN THEIR UTILITY BILLS. YEAH. RIGHT. PUT IT ON FACEBOOK AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU YEAH. FACEBOOK AND WEBSITE ON THEIR ADDRESS AND I'LL SPEAK TO 'EM. RIGHT. THEN WE CAN YOU WANT TO HELP, WE CAN PRINT OUT THE APPLICATION AND AND HAND IT TO 'EM. YEAH. BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM AREN'T, I GUARANTEE THEY ON FIXED INCOME. SURE. OR WAS HE ONE, DID WE EVER THINK ABOUT DOING A MAILING FOR JUST THOSE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT? I MEAN I'VE GOT ALL, EVERYTHING UPDATED AS OF, I MEAN IT COULD HAVE CHANGED BY NOW. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO BUYS AND SELLS, BUT I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO UPDATE THAT EVERY DAY. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE THE LATEST WHEN I DID THAT YEAH. A MONTH OR TWO AGO. BUT YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ANYTHING BEING DISCUSSED FURTHER, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU WERE GONNA DO POSTCARDS. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS, BUT IT STILL HASN'T BEEN DONE YET IN THE WORKS. I'VE BEEN SLACKING. OKAY. EVERY MEETING. YEAH. WELL THIS, THIS IS BIG. THIS IS THE MOST PROMISING THING BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY STUFF CAN GET DONE. YEAH. UM, NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, BUT, OR YOU CAN, IS THE BOARD CONSIDERING, AND I MEAN YOU CAN DO IT IN THE NEWSLETTER WITH UTILITY DEALS, THAT GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. BUT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT JUST TARGETING THOSE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH A MAILING? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT TO DO, BUT HONESTLY, I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT MAY NEED HELP OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, AND IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY REGARDLESS. YEAH. YEAH. WHERE THEY LIVE. I MEAN, I THINK WE WOULD DO BOTH. UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD, IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WOULD GET THE NEWSLETTER AND WE COULD DO A TARGETED MAILING ON TOP OF THAT RATHER THAN JUST DOING ONE OR THE OTHER. YOU MEAN JUST IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? YEAH. SEPARATELY FROM THE NEW, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITY NEWSLETTER. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY OFF LABOR, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT WE PROBABLY WANNA YOU MEAN IN THE NEWSLETTER? IT'S NOT GONNA BE EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE HISTORIC DOES ANYBODY CAN APPLY YEAH. THE NEWSLETTER. BUT, UM, I MEAN I THINK BUT TARGETED MAJORITY, LIKE THE POSTCARD THING ABOUT HISTORIC DISTRICT, MAYBE NOT, BUT MAJORITY TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES ARE PROBABLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM. . YEAH. UM, I'M NOT SAYING THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T NEED HELP, BUT JUST IF YOU LOOK IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THERE'S, THAT'S WHERE THE, OBVIOUSLY [00:35:01] THE OLDER HOMES ARE MM-HMM. , UH, THAT NEED SOME MAINTENANCE WORK DONE. I'M JUST THINKING OF ONE PARTICULAR LANDLORD ON ROYAL AVENUE OUT HERE. WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT. I MEAN RIGHT. IT JUST, YOU KNOW. YEAH. THAT, I MEAN I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE TARGET AREAS FOR HOME OWNERS THAT ARE OCCUPYING THEIR HOME. MM-HMM. . YEAH. DON'T THINK PEOPLE, I DON'T THINK THEY, THEY AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD, HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD WEEDED OUT SOME APPLICATIONS. YEAH. THIS IS STRICTLY FOR HOMEOWNERS. GOOD. OKAY. THAT RESIDE THERE OR AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT, IT COULD BE ATTENTION HOMEOWNERS. YES. YEAH. NOT PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT HOMEOWNERS. YEAH. SEE THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. I KNOW HOMEOWNERS ON LIKE BLUE RIDGE CLOUD CHURCH THAT ARE GETTING UP THERE AND MM-HMM. . MM-HMM , LIKE OUTBUILDINGS ARE FALLING DOWN, THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. BIG OFFENSES. WELL, YOUR FIXED INCOME. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S IT. WHERE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING REPAIRS ARE GETTING VERY COSTLY. GUYS THAT USED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO IT THEMSELVES, THEY CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. THEY'RE JUST TOO OLD. HE'S SO CUTE. LOOKS LIKE YOU THAT PARTIAL. HE'S GREAT, MAN. YEAH, HE'S ADORABLE. SHUT. IT'S GOOD. LIKE THE LAST BABY YOU BROUGHT TO THE MEETINGS. OH YEAH. QUIET. HE GOOD TOO. HE WAS GOOD. SHE SAID HE IS AS QUIET AS A LOT TO ME AND MINE USED TO BE QUIET TOO. TELL HIM. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE WANNA CHAT ABOUT BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS OUT? WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK WITH THE, WHEN THE DEADLINE IS TO SUBMIT FOR THE NEWSLETTER. IF YOU CAN WORK ON A, UH, SINCE YOU TALKED TO 'EM. UH, YEAH. AND WE CAN GET IT ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND OUR WEBSITE PAGE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THAT ON THERE AS WELL. INFORMATION. I'LL, I MEAN WE MAY NEED TO CLEAR THAT PROBABLY THROUGH, I CAN SEND IT OVER TO THE AUTHORITIES. JENNIFER TOWN COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR UP WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL ON THIS, SO WE'LL NEED TO ACT ON THAT QUICKLY AS WELL. ALRIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TOWN COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE. REALLY? YEAH. THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL IS ADVERTISING IT. YEAH. YEAH. JUST GRAB CITIZENS, SPREADING THE WORD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. YEAH. IF IT'S BEING POSTED BY THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT ACCOUNT. OH BOY. , THAT'S A, NOW IS THAT, THAT'S AFFILIATED THROUGH YOUR CHURCH, I'M ASSUMING, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S THE CATHOLIC DIOCESE OF ARLINGTON HAVE A WEEK. . ALL RIGHT. WELL LET'S, UH, AND THEN ALSO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. MAYBE YOU CAN ADVERTISE FOR LOCAL COMMUNITY HELP. YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, PARTNERSHIP. YEAH. WE'LL, STAFF WILL CHECK WITH, YOU KNOW YEAH. WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND EVERYTHING. MAKE SURE WHAT WE CAN DO. AND THEN I MENTIONED IN THE EMAIL, UM, THAT, UH, THE B A R APPEAL FOR THE ONE Y'ALL DENIED IN AUGUST, GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL ON THE 25TH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ATTEND, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND. IT'S AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. BUT THAT'S WHEN WE WERE GONNA HEAR THAT APPEAL. I THOUGHT THEY WAS ON POSTPONE THEN UNTIL OCTOBER. IF THAT'S HAPPENED, NO ONE HAS TOLD ME. OKAY. SO I'M SORRY, I, IF THAT'S HAPPENED, I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW. KNOW, I, I, I'VE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT. I THINK WHAT THEY SAID IN THE WORK SESSION. OKAY. WHAT'D THEY SAY? THAT THEY, THAT THEY WERE GONNA POSTPONE IT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT NEEDED MORE TIME. OH, OKAY. TO GET MORE INFORMATION. OKAY. SOMETHING THAT, FORGET WHAT I JUST SAID. FORGET EVERYTHING I JUST SAID. . HE SEEMED TO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION WHEN HE WAS HERE. I WONDER WHAT HE'S MISSING. ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. ANY MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. JUST A SECOND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.