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[Planning and Zoning Work Session on May 3, 2023.]
OF THE CURRENT ROYAL PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION THIS WEDNESDAY, MAY THE THIRD, 2023.UH, MS. POTTER, COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? JUROR MERCHANT HERE.
AND COMMISSIONER WOOD IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE MAY CONTINUE, UH, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT.
BEFORE WE GET TO OUR, UH, AGENDA ITEMS, UH, TOWN COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED THAT WE ADD, UH, TO OUR AGENDA DISCUSSION ON THE DYNAMIC LIFE CEMETERY, UH, APPLICATION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE APPROVE THE, UM, ORDINANCE ALLOWING, UH, FOR THE CEMETERY AT THE DYNAMIC LIFE BUILDING, AND NOW THE, THE, UH, CHURCH WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR THAT, UH, ENDEAVOR.
SO, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I WILL ADD IT TO THE AGENDA, UH, UNDER THE OTHER ITEMS AT THE END OF OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE, UH, SESSION TONIGHT.
UM, YOU, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
UH, THE ITEM AT THAT POINT, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, ANY OBJECTION? YES.
WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, DISCUSSION ON, UH, APPLICATION NUMBER 22 4 0 2, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL AT TWO 11 SOUTH ROYAL.
UH, WHO'S PRESENTING, JOHN, YOU PRESENTING TONIGHT? APPLICATION 22 0 4 0 2 IS FOR, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL, LOCATED AT TWO 11 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.
IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP AS 28 7 DASH 4 1 0 5.
UH, PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ALSO.
UH, THAT'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR APPLICATION.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THREE IN THE FRONT.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR SIX PEOPLE, UH, THREE BEDROOMS, UH, AND ON THE PATH THAT THEY SUBMITTED, UH, AT THE BACK OF THE 15 FOOT ALLEY, THERE'S ACTUALLY ROOM FOR SIX CARS IN THE REAR, AND ADDITIONAL THREE CARS COULD BE PARKED IN THE FRONT IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THEY HAVE AMPLE PARKING IN THE REAR FOR SIX CARS.
THE APPLICATION, AGAIN, IS FOR SIX PEOPLE, THREE BEDROOMS. ANY QUESTIONS? UH, WE DID DO AN INSPECTION LAST WEEK ON FRIDAY.
UH, THEY DID HAVE A MANAGEMENT PLAN ON SITE.
UH, THEY HAD ALL THEIR, UH, UH, EVACUATION PLANS POSTED IN THE BEDROOMS. UH, THEY HAD THE, UH, LOCATION FOR THE CRASH RECEPTACLES, UH, OUTLINED WITH THE PARKING.
UH, THEY HAD THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER AND ALL THE SMOKE ALARMS INSTALLED PER CODE.
SO IT DID PASS INSPECTION ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK.
SO THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE AND THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET MOVING FORWARD, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM, OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF REGARDING THIS? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ON MAY THE 17TH, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS NUMBER 23 180 4.
AN APPLICATION REQUESTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FROM THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR PROPERTY.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ADDRESS OF THAT PROPERTY? 15 CHESTER STREET.
SEE IT NOW? UH, MADAM DIRECTOR OR YOU WISH TO, UH, JOHN, WHAT I HAVE LISTED.
SO REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION 23 180 4.
UH, APPLICATION IS REQUESTING EXCEPTION FROM THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 1 48, 2 11 0.2, PURSUANT OF 1 48, 8 70 A 18, AND 1 48 2 11 A ONE FOR THE PROPERTY AT 15
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CHESTER STREET, IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 28 8 53.IT IS ZONE C2 DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT IS ALSO LOCATED IN HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF CHESTER STREET.
AND LAURA VIRGINIA HEALTH PLACE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION, A SURVEY FLAT PLAID OF THE PROPERTY AND THE APPLICANT'S LETTER STATING THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST.
UH, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, UH, THEY HAVE PARKING CURRENTLY CAN ACCOMMODATE FOUR PARKING SPACES.
THEY'RE ON THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SECTION 1 75 104.
THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES ALL NEW USES OR DEVELOPMENTS, AND CHANGE OF USE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 1 48.
WE RECEIVED A BUSINESS APPLICATION FOR 2301 21 FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICES TO BE ESTABLISHED AT THIS LOCATION.
SECTION 1 48, 8 78 2 REQUIRES FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICES ONE PARKING SPACE PER 300 GROSS SQUARE FEET.
THE BUILDING HAS A TOTAL OF SQUARE GROSS FOOTAGE OF 20, UH, 2,742, THUS RESULTING IN NINE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
CHAPTER 1 48, 8 78 18 STATES, WITH THE STANDARDS OF THIS CHAPTER, OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS MAY BE WAIVED BY A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 1 48, 2 11 OF THIS CHAPTER.
THERE IS A PLAT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, CHAPTER 1 48, 2 11 STATES.
THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO THE GENERAL REGULATIONS OF THIS CHAPTER MAY BE GRANTED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING CIRCUMSTANCES, WHEN THE STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE GENERAL REGULATIONS WOULD RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL INJUSTICE OR HARDSHIP, PROVIDED THAT THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION WOULD NOT DIMINISH PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR GENERAL WELFARE INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONSIDERATION THAT ADEQUATE PROVISIONS ARE PROVIDED TO ENSURE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC AND SHARED PRIVATE FACILITIES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
1 48 2 11 D PRIOR TO APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF ANY REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE 15 2 22 0 4 TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TOWN COUNCIL.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE IN, BUT IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? OKAY.
SO THEY ARE SEEKING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
THIS IS NOT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO THE PARKING.
PARKING IS REQUIRED WITH A CHANGE OF USE.
SO IS IS THE EXCEPTION FOR THAT THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO BUILD THE ADDITIONAL PARKING OR THAT THEY DON'T THINK THEY NEED THE ADDITIONAL PARKING? IF I, IF I UNDERSTOOD THE APPLICATION CORRECTLY, SIR, THEY WOULD, THEY DIDN'T WANNA DISTURB THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE AREA BEHIND IT.
UM, AND THE APPLICANTS HERE, IF YOU WERE ASK OKAY, QUESTIONS, HAS, HAS STAFF, HAVE YOU DEVELOPED A REPORT YET ON THIS, UH, APPROVAL OR WE'LL DEVELOPED A REPORT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO, SO, SO A SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT REQUIRES THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 17TH? YEAH.
AND THEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, WELL, MY QUESTION IS, UM, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A LAW PRACTICE QUESTION MARK THAT'S PROFESSIONAL OFFICES.
HOW MANY PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, IF, IF IT'S THE LAW PRACTICE THAT HAS TWO CORRECT TALKING PEOPLE THERE, I CAN SEE NO NEED FOR NINE SPACES.
PARK PARKING IS DETERMINED BY THE SQUARE, GROSS, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT.
REGARDLESS OF OFFICE SPACE OR NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.
UM, WHICH I WAS HOPING THAT, UH, SOME PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS WOULD'VE AT LEAST APPROACHED COUNSEL TO INCLUDE
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THESE AREAS IN THE PARKING EXEMPTION, UH, UMBRELLA.BUT, BUT THAT HASN'T OCCURRED.
SO, UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THE, THE PPLICANT IS HERE.
IF YOU WISH TO ASK HIM, UH, YOU KNOW, A QUESTION THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO YOU, SCOTT.
AM I, AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT YOU ALL DIDN'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE BACK? I MEAN, YOU BY, RIGHT.
I THINK YOU CAN PARK PEOPLE IN THE GRASS.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, EXCEPT THAT, UH, FUNCTIONALLY IT'S NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE HEDGES THAT THAT OKAY.
SO THE AREA ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE MIDDLE SECTION THAT'S PAVED, AND THEN THE AREA TO THE RIGHT.
WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE IS THAT THAT'S ALL, UH, ENCLOSED WITH HEDGES AND, AND OLD, LIKE ONE TREE OR SOMETHING IN THE CORNER THERE.
SO IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM THE STREET.
AND, UM, SO WE, WHEN WE FIRST, UH, JUST ADDRESS THE ISSUE, I MEAN, THE, THE STRICT ANSWER TO, TO FIXING THE PROBLEM OF CREATING FIVE NEW PARKING SPOTS IS, HAS PAVED THAT AREA OVER.
SO O OVER TO THE STREAM LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE BEGINNING OF THE HEDGES OVER THERE.
BUT, UM, SO WE'VE GOT THOSE FORD PARKING SPACES, AND, AND IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GONNA SOLVE IT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OUR OPTION UNLESS WE PAV OVER SOME OF THE, UM, OVER THE WALL IN THERE, OVER TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING MM-HMM.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, I MEAN, AND, AND THIS IS LIKE A COLLOQUIALLY UNDERSTANDING, NOT ONE THAT'S REALLY BEEN, UM, WELL, UH, RESEARCHED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THIS IS SORT OF AN ACCIDENT OF, OF HISTORY IN THE SENSE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BUILT IN 1882 AND WAS PROBABLY FROM THE 19 HUNDREDS OR SOMETHING OF A BUSINESS PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, PREDATED ANY OF THESE CODES IN IT AND SO ON, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT LEAST.
AND, UH, IT WASN'T UNTIL JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, I'M GONNA SAY IN THE 20 11, 20 12, MAYBE 2014 RANGE, THAT, UM, THE PREVIOUS OWNERS ASKED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO HAVE IT BE A RESIDENCE.
AND IN FACT, IT WAS NEVER USED AS A RESIDENCE.
AND IT WENT SIDEWAYS A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO THE REALLY, UM, I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTATE IT, BUT I, I THINK THE ONLY REASON WE'RE REALLY HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE OF THAT CHANGEOVER FROM, TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO USE AS RESIDENTIAL.
CAUSE IT'S COMMERCIAL BY, RIGHT.
AND NOW WE'RE SWITCHING IT BACK TO WHAT IT'S BEEN ALWAYS USED FOR ON PAPER AS COMMERCIAL.
AND WHICH BRINGS UP THE, I MEAN, LEGITIMATELY BRINGS UP THE QUESTION OF PARKING, BUT, UM, IT'S SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WELL, IT WAS NEVER ACTUALLY AN ISSUE BEFORE, OR, OR AT LEAST, UM, NOT ONE THAT THAT HAD TO BE ADDRESSED FOR THIS PRO THE COMMERCIAL USE OF THIS PROPERTY.
BUT NOW THAT BECAUSE OF A LITTLE BLIP IN THE, IN THE PROPERTY'S HISTORY, WE, WE'VE GOT THIS ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOTTA ADDRESS NOW.
WERE WERE, WERE YOU AWARE OF THE PARKING ISSUE WHEN YOU PURCHASED? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN IT DAWNED ON US
I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING.
WELL, WELL, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS AFTER WE, AFTER WE, UH, STRUCK THE AGREEMENT AND WE WERE FIRST CLEARING THINGS OUT, UM, I SAID, I SAID TO MY PARTNER, I WAS LIKE, I, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO FOR PARKING HERE? AND I, I WAS, LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO GET THAT CLEARED UP, YOU KNOW, AS, AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD, AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUSINESS LICENSE WAS MOVED OVER AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD JUST TO GET REGULAR AS, UM, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
HOW MANY, I MEAN, JUST FROM A NAKED EYE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU COULD GET FOUR CARS IN THERE IF YOU HAD TO.
AND HOW MANY OFFICES ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED? IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ONE.
AND, UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT, SO THAT'S A LI A LITTLE BIT DATED.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSONNEL THAT'S JOINED US SINCE THEN.
BUT APART FROM THAT, IT'S, IT'S ACCURATE.
IT'S SO CLOSE TO OTHER PARKING THAT EVEN IF, EVEN IF THEY GET MORE, IT'S NOT GOOD.
WELL, I SAY WE HAD AN ISSUE ACROSS THE STREET, AND, AND THE ISSUE IS NOT, YOU KNOW, KEEP MAKING THE EXCEPTIONS.
THE ISSUE SHOULD BE SHOULD WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE IF WE FEEL THAT THIS AREA IS, WELL, WE DO HAVE REVISION OF THE ORDINANCE COMING UP.
WELL, THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S TRUE.
AND WE'LL, BUT, BUT THIS WOULD REQUIRE MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, CERTAINLY A, A MAJOR ADDITION TO THAT.
BUT, UH, BUT WE'VE DENIED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARKING SITUATIONS BEFORE
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SIMILAR.BUT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT MAKING A DECISION, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT.
UM, I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO, TO PROVE STUFF IF, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BUYS SOMETHING WITHOUT CHECKING, NOT TO IMPUGN YOU, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUY SOMETHING AND THEN FIND OUT YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO CAUSE OF AN ORDINANCE, THAT'S NOT THE ORDINANCES FAULT.
UM, WELL, BUT REALISTICALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, NOBODY'S GONNA WANNA MAKE THAT A RESIDENCE.
WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE, I, I THINK PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT, BUT THE CODE IS CLEAR, GONNA HAVE BUSINESS BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU, THE PARKING, WE EITHER MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE, TO THAT PARKING REQUIREMENT, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IS, IS THERE ANY LEGAL THRESHOLD, GEORGE, WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT FOR AN EXCEPTION, OR JUST IF IT IS JUST IN OUR OPINION? I THINK, I THINK JOHN LAID OUT THE CRITERIA.
YEAH, I CAN'T ELABORATE ON THAT.
WITHOUT RESEARCH, I COULD RESEARCH THE ISSUE.
AND NOR WHETHER REGARDS, JOHN, IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE HISTORIC DISTRICT REGULATIONS, SO, OKAY.
LOOK FORWARD TO, DID, DID TAKE TO, IN TAKE AND TALK TO ME AHEAD OF TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D PURCHASED A COPY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT, WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM AHEAD OF TIME? HE NEEDED TO FILE A BUSINESS LICENSE AND THEN WE WOULD START REVIEWING EVERYTHING.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT HE'D JUMP THE GUN.
WELL, I, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT ASSUMING THAT I'M JUST, YEAH, I, I, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY IF YOU BUY A BUILDING, YOU, YOU FIRST MAKE SURE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT I WOULD SAY THE ZONING ALLOWS YOU TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE BUILDING, BUT WE ALSO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, LEASES WITHIN 300 FEET.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION.
BUT, BUT YOU WILL HAVE A STAFF REPORT AVAILABLE BY THE, UH, MAY 17TH MEETING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? YOU MAY HAVE NONE.
AND WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY THE 17TH.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.
WE HAVE, UH, APPLICATION NUMBER 23 0 213 COOK REALTY, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 1125 JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY.
IF YOU'LL MOVE THROUGH YOUR LITTLE SEAT IN THE 20, UH, THAT'S 1121.
I THINK I GOT THAT OUTTA ORDER.
1121 IS TWO 13, ISN'T IT? THAT MY CORNER? NO, UH, NO.
HOW COME MR. WILLIAMS IF HE RECUSES HIMSELF? HE DOESN'T HAVE TO 1 11 25.
YEAH, THAT'S THE NEXT, THAT'S PERMIT NUMBER TWO 13.
THIS IS AT STATION 2, 3, 2 13, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL.
UH, THE ADDRESS WOULD BE 1125 JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY.
UM, BUT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROPERTY? UH, THOSE ARE THE FOUR.
UH, WE HAVE THE PLAT IN THERE, CONNIE? NO.
IN YOUR PACKAGES OF THE PLAT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE THREE BUILDINGS LOCATED IN THE REAR ON LOT EIGHT A ACCORDING TO YOUR PACKET.
ACCORDING TO THE, YES, THE LATE EIGHT LOT EIGHT A, THE MIDDLE ONE WITH THE THREE STRUCTURES SHOWING ON THERE.
THAT IS WHAT'S DEPICTED HERE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS TAKEN TODAY.
UM, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT, UH, EVACUATION PLANS FOR THE, UH, STRUCTURE.
UH, NO INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.
UH, IF WE WENT OUT TODAY, UH, THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT COMPLETE TO DO A FINAL INSPECTION OF THE INTERIOR TO EVALUATE THE EVACUATION PLAN, TO SMOKE DETECTORS, UM, UH, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, ET CETERA, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR, UH, APPROVAL.
UH, SO NO INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THE, THE LOT DOES HAVE THREE STRUCTURES ON IT.
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PART OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE LOT, UH, SUBDIVISION, UH, BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2022, UM, HAD THE BUILDINGS TO BE CONNECTED TO MAKE ONE STRUCTURE, UH, SO TO HAVE A PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND ONE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE LOT.THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE NOT BEEN CONNECTED AT THIS POINT.
ARE THEY STILL PLANS TO CONNECT? YES.
I'LL, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO FINISH AND THEN I CAN, I'LL ADDRESS ALL YOUR CONCERNS.
SO NO INSPECTION ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE STATE TOWN CODE ALLOWS ONE PRIMARY AND ONE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PER LOT.
UH, AS OF NOW, AS TODAY, THEY HAVE THREE STRUCTURES, SEPARATE STRUCTURES ON THE LOT.
UM, THE, THE PARKING HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED FOR THOSE STRUCTURES AT THIS POINT, SO NO INSPECTION ON THE ACC TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? SO THE, THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE OTHER THAN, UH, NOT COMPLETING REQUIREMENTS OR REQUESTS OR, UH, ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU'VE RELAYED TO THE APPLICANT, CORRECT.
SO THE PAPERWORK PORTIONS OF THE APPLICATION ARE COMPLETE? YEAH, EVERYTHING'S BEEN SUBMITTED AS WE'RE REQUIRED.
SO WHAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IS BEING ABLE TO GET INTO THE STRUCTURES AND DO THE INSPECTIONS AND INSPECT THE PARKING AREAS AND LEAVE.
THE APPLICANTS GONNA BE GETTING THEIR FINAL INSPECTION FROM THE COUNTY AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK FOR THE ACCESSORY OR FOR THE SMALLER COTTAGES.
AND THEN THE MAIN, THE BIG HOUSE, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE NEXT MONTH, IF I STATED THAT CORRECTLY.
PART OF, PART OF, PARDON SIR? YOU WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLIC? YEAH, I'M, I AM PPLICANT.
AND I AM, SO THESE, THE WAY THAT THESE ARE GOING TO ATTACH IS THEY'LL ATTACH AT THE TOP, I'M A CLASS A CONTRACTOR, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL WE'RE ALMOST READY TO EXIT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS.
IN ORDER TO GET TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS WITH THE TALL MACHINERY, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN BETWEEN THEM TO FINISH THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL.
SO RIGHT BEFORE WE DO THIS, THERE WILL BE A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE TWO, A STRUCTURE, A WALKWAY THAT WILL CONNECT THEM, AND THAT'S THE CODE TO CONNECT THEM.
UM, WE COULDN'T LET THEM, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR FINAL, CUZ THERE'S NO FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, THE PLUMBING ISN'T FINISHED, AND ALL THOSE THINGS, THE TRADES ARE DOING THEIR FINALS, SO NOTHING WOULD'VE BEEN APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO DO THE INSPECTIONS.
SO, SO BASICALLY THESE THINGS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION? YES, SIR.
AND SO ONCE WE FINISH, AND IT'S A MUCKING MESS, AS I'M SURE ALL OF YOU COULD UNDERSTAND FROM ALL THE RAIN THAT WE'VE HAD, BUT THEY WILL BE JOINED AND THERE IS AMPLE PARKING.
IN FACT, WE, UH, ENLARGE THE PARKING AREA SO THAT THERE WOULD BE EXTRA PARKING.
DID YOU HAVE A MAP OR A DRAWING THAT SHOWS THE PARKING AREA? I THINK HE HAS PICTURES OF IT.
DO YOU, JOHN? I SHOWED IT ON ONE OF THE MAPS ORIGINALLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THAT HERE.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED, I BASICALLY TOOK THE WHOLE FRONT AND OKAY.
UH, GOT RID OF THE GRASS AND PUT GRAVEL DOWN SO THERE WOULD BE PARKING.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN, UH, ITEMS, JOHN, ENCLOSED WALL PLAYS INTO PARKING AND THEN THE INSPECTION OF PANEL.
INSIDE OF THE, THE STRUCTURES, SMOKE DETECTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE STRUCTURES TO BE CONNECTED TO MAKE ONE PRIMARY UNIT, ONE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A ROOF ATTACHED BY A ROOF.
THEY CAN'T HAVE ONE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PER LOT.
SO YOU HAVE TO CONNECT ONE OF THE CABINS TOGETHER.
THE OTHER ONE CAN BE THE ANCILLARY STRUCTURE.
SO THERE WILL BE, TWO OF THE BUILDINGS WILL BE COMBINED, WHICH WILL BE FOUR AND FIVE.
AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE THE, THE ANCILLARY STRUCTURE.
THESE WILL BE UP TO CURRENT CODE, WHICH WILL, UM, THAT WILL MEAN WE'LL GET A BUILDING PERMIT FROM THE LOCAL BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH MEANS THERE HAS TO BE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER, THERE HAS TO BE, UH, SMOKE DETECTORS.
SO ALL OF THESE WILL BE, UM, CURRENT CODE AND I'LL SUBMIT THAT TO.
SO STAFF WHAT WILL, WILL ADDRESS THOSE? YOU WON'T ISSUE THE FINAL FINAL.
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FINAL UNTIL THOSE ARE ITEMS ARE COMPLETE.SO THEN REALLY THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT TONIGHT IS WHETHER WE DEEM THIS APPROPRIATE AS A SPECIAL USE FOR THE, FOR THE LOCATION.
AND EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW I FEEL ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A R ONE ZONE.
BUT, UH, YOU, YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, STAFF? ARE THEY, ARE THEY APPLICANT SINCE SHE WAS HERE TONIGHT? WELL THEN REMEMBER TOO, IN OUR CONFERENCE PLAN, WE HAVE THE NEW ONE, UHHUH
WE'VE GOT LEASE MIXED USE, COMMERCIAL MIXED USE DOWN THE ROAD.
SO YEAH, I WOULD'VE MUST HAVE PREFERRED TO SEE IT'S BEEN REZONED.
UM, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, STRETCHING OUR CURRENT, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
YOU KNOW, IT COUNCIL, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY CREATED THE SHORT TERM ORDINANCE WAS TO ALLOW A PROPERTY OWNER TO RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTY, UH, WHEN THEY WERE ON VACATION OR, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM HOME OR A ROOM IN THEIR HOME.
AND NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO ALMOST A PURPOSE-BUILT, YOU KNOW, FACILITY.
ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO SEEN IT BEEN REZONED COMMERCIAL THEN, BECAUSE DO WE WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO OCCUR IN NEVADA STATES AND R ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A, IN A SUBDIVISION? YOU KNOW, LUCKILY HERE WE'RE ON JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY A COMMERCIAL WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE GET UP IN UH, UH, VIRGINIA AVENUE, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT SOMEBODY PUTTING THREE SMALL OR BUILDING PURPOSE BILL SHORT TERM RENTALS? WHEN I DON'T THINK THE INTENT OF OUR ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS PUT CONDITIONS ON THE PROJECT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IT NEEDS THE PARKING, IT NEEDS THE SMOKE DETECTORS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY'RE LISTENING.
UH, BLACK COMMISSION CAN ALSO PUT, UH, CONDITIONS ON THE PROJECT, UH, ONE CONDITION.
WE, WE COULD, UH, LIMIT THE DURATION OF THE PERMIT IF WE FEEL THAT, UM, THAT THE SPECIAL USE, UH, NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALMOST LIKE A BUSINESS PERMIT, A BUSINESS LICENSE WHERE YOU HAVE TO ANNUALLY RENEW IT.
I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
BUT, UH, BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.
UH, I JUST HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH, WITH THESE THREE APPLICATIONS BEING IN A, YOU KNOW, HIGH USE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, WHY THEY WERE EVER ZONE RESIDENTIAL.
BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A PRECEDENT FOR SOMEBODY TO, TO DO THIS IN A, IN A AND MAYBE WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THE ORDINANCE CUZ YOU KNOW, WHEN COUNCIL, UH, CREATED THE ORDINANCE, UH, THEY AGREE THERE WAS SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE, MAYBE THE, YOU KNOW, AFTER A YEAR OR SO, WE, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT.
UH, CERTAINLY LOOKS, YOU KNOW, NICE WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE.
UM, IT DEFINITELY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PROPERTY.
OF COURSE, THAT'S OLD TIMERS, REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, HALL'S MOTOR COURT, UH, WILSON YEARS AGO.
WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF OR AFTERNOON? SO, UH, THEY HAVE AS AWARE OF THE, OF THE, UH, ISSUES, UH, LISTED BY, UH, JOHN, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A MORE HANDLE ON, ON THE COMPLETION DATE OF THOSE BY THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE'RE AT OKAY.
IF WE, IF SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO GET HER SHOT.
THE NEXT ITEM, 2 3 0 2 1 4, UH, COOK REALTY 1121.
JOHN RUSSELL HIGHWAY SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR, UH, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL AT, UH, IN, AGAIN, IN THE R ONE ZONE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PART OF TOWN, THAT'S THE MAIN, UH, STRUCTURE ON THAT AREA.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR, UH, SIX PEOPLE, THREE BEDROOMS. UM, UH, IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR PLA YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE, THE, THE MAIN LOT.
THERE, UH, AGAIN, AS THE PREVIOUS ONE, NO INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED ON THE STRUCTURE.
UH, TO, UH, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE IT IS ISSUED.
NOW, UH, ALSO I UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM THE DIRECTOR THAT, UH, WE COULD, AT THE 17TH MEETING, IF WE DEEM THAT, THAT NON-COMPLIANCE UP TO THAT POINT COULD CAUSE A DELAY POSSIBLY IF WE SO CHOOSE.
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AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THE INSPECTIONS.UHHUH
ANY QUESTION? OTHER, AND YOU SAY IT'S GONNA BE THREE BEDROOMS, UH, THREE BEDROOMS, YES.
SIX PEOPLE IN THAT, UH, MAIN HOUSE.
IF ANYONE REFERRED TO IT AS THAT MS. COOK, WOULD THERE BE ANYBODY LIVING IN, IN THE BUILDING PERMANENTLY? NO.
AND THIS WAS THE OFFICE FOR THE MOTOR LODGE? YEAH, SO THAT WAS ORIGINALLY THE OFFICE AND THE CABINS ARE ORIGINALLY SIX.
THEY DELETED ONE ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OVER HERE WHEN BEFORE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
AND, UM, THE ONLY THING I DID WAS JUST REINSTATED IT THE WAY IT IS AND I ADDED TWO WINGS ON EITHER SIDE SO THAT WE WOULD, IT WASN'T A DINING ROOM.
SO WHEN YOU SAY AN OFFICE, I MEAN, PEOPLE WON'T BE PULLING IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THERE WAS AN OFFICER ORIGINALLY.
I'M NOT HAVING AN OFFICE THERE, SIR.
I MEAN, YOU WON'T HAVE LIKE A VACANCY SIGN OUT.
NO, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC FOR.
UM, AS FAR AS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD QUICKLY.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE RECEIVED OVER 55,000 COMMENTS ON THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA POST THANKING ME PERSONALLY FOR DOING THIS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, KNOWING THAT IN THE PAPER I HAD APPLIED FOR AN AIRBNB AND HAVING THE SUPPORT OF SURE.
THE COMMUNITY ON THIS, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IT'S BEEN AN EYESORE FOR YEARS.
AND TO CLEAN IT UP HAS BEEN AN UNDERTAKING AT BEST.
AND IT'S BEEN AN, A LABOR OF LOVE BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I'M WAY OVER BUDGET, BUT I LOVE MY COMMUNITY AND I LOVE MY TOWN, AND I HOPE I'LL GET THE SUPPORT HERE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S UNIQUE, BUT I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT ME IN ITS UNIQUENESS IN, IN TRYING TO BRING BACK THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THIS CORRIDOR INSTEAD OF A VAPE SHOP, UM, AND WORK WITH ME TO, TO MAKE THIS NICE SO THAT WHEN VISITORS COME TO OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY SEE THE BEAUTY THAT I SEE IN IT.
WELL, LUCKILY A VAPE SHOP WOULDN'T, COULDN'T GO IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE
BUT, UH, BUT I, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT OUT THERE.
I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE OUR EFFORT FOR TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS, IS, IS DONE CORRECTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
NO QUESTIONS ON THE APPLICATION.
TWO 14 APPLICATION, 20 3002 15, ANOTHER ONE FROM, UH, MS. COOK.
UH, NOW ARE THEY ALL THESE IN YOUR NAME? ARE THEY DIFFERENT CORPORATE NAMES OR IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL COOK REALTY.
UM, ANOTHER SPECIAL USE REQUEST FOR 1135 JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, UH, LEAVE TOWN FURTHER DOWN.
THERE'S KEY STRUCTURES ON THAT, UH, DEPICTED ON YOUR DRAWING.
UM, TWO STRUCTURES, AGAIN, UM, A PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE R ONE DISTRICT.
UH, LET'S SEE IF, I THINK WE GOT A, THAT'S A VIEW COMING DOWN THE STREET.
SO THAT'S THE, THE TWO UNITS, THERE ARE TWO DWELLING UNITS THERE.
UH, AGAIN, NO INSPECTION FOR THE INTERIOR WAS COMPLETED.
UH, THE, UH, STRUCTURES ARE NOT COMPLETED IN THE INSIDE.
SO, UH, SAME SCENARIO AS THE PREVIOUS TWO APPLICATIONS.
NO INSPECTION, UH, PARKING, OR THE, UH, OR THE REFUGE AREA DESIGNATED.
UH, MS. COOK, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING? YES, SIR.
UM, SO HOW MANY TOTAL SPACES WOULD WE NEED, JOHN? UH, LET'S SEE.
FOR THAT STRUCTURE THERE OR THAT LOT, LOT NUMBER NINE.
UH, HOW MANY BEDROOMS IS THAT? TWO.
UH, YEAH, TWO BEDROOMS AND FOR FOUR PEOPLE FOR THAT ONE.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ONE? OR THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE LOT? THAT IS, YES.
SO I, I ASSUME YOU'LL HAVE A CENTRAL PARKING AREA? YES, I BE PARKING DIRECTLY IN FRONT.
THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT THEY, THEY COME UP TO OFF OF THE PARKING.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAPPEN TO SELL THE MIDDLE LOT YES, SIR.
THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO PUT THEIR OWN ENTRANCE IN.
NO, THERE'S PARKING RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE.
THE ENTRANCE IS TOGETHER WITH THE FIRST HOUSE, SIR.
SO IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO ENTRANCES.
TWO PAVED DRIVES, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE PAVED DRIVE IS ON LOT EIGHT.
YEAH, THE IT, THE WHAT? THE, IT'S WIDE ENOUGH.
THE ENTRANCE IS WIDE ENOUGH THAT THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES RIGHT THERE, SIR.
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OKAY.SO IF, IF LOT EIGHT WERE SOLD, YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN ACCESS, PART OF THAT ACCESS.
ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MS. COOK ON, UH, AND THERE'S MORE THAN AMPLE PARKING.
WHAT'S THAT? THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING SPACES.
I MADE SURE THERE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THERE.
ANY, NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
NEXT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING WE'LL HAVE ON THE 17TH WILL BE FOR COOK REALTY.
UH, JOHN, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO COME, OR I MEAN, MICHAEL, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO COME BACK FOR THIS ONE.
I DON'T KNOW, MISS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.
MAY 17TH ALLOW A 14, UH, OR 23 0 2 32, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW 14 ROOM NURSING HOME IN THE C1 DISTRICT.
OH, WAIT, YEAH, YOU MIGHT LOCATED FOUR 16 SOUTH ROW AVENUE.
IS THIS THE NURSING HOME? CAN YOU JUST STATE THAT YOU'RE COMING BACK IN? I'M COMING BACK IN.
THE APPLICATION SUPPOSED TO SAY IS 23 DOUBLE 0 2 32 IS FOR A 13 HOME.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE C ONE DISTRICT.
UH, IT IS LOCATED FOUR 16 SOUTH ROYAL AVENUE.
UH, WITHIN YOUR PACKETS, THERE ARE SEVERAL DRAWINGS, UH, LOCATED WITH THE SCHEMATICS.
WE CHOSE TO SHOW THIS FIRST FLOOR CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, THE UNITS WILL BE CONVERTED INTO, UH, NURSING HOME UNITS.
THIS IS JUST A DEPICTION, AGAIN, A CONCEPT PLAN, NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT CAN BE OR WILL BE THERE.
UH, THAT'LL BE APPLICABLE TO THE CURRENT BUILDING CODE, UH, FOR THE NURSING HOME.
SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE HOPING TO GET, UH, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND 14 HOMES OR NURSING, UH, ROOMS FOR THE NURSING HOME IN THIS STRUCTURE, UH, WITH A, AND, AND IT CAN BE GRANTED BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THEY WOULD RENOVATE THE STRUCTURE.
UH, A NEW ROOF PUT PUT ON, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, IT IS CAUGHT FIRE.
SO THAT'LL BE RENOVATED, A NEW ROOF PUT ON.
AND AGAIN, UH, INTERIOR RENOVATIONS TO THE, UH, WHOLE STRUCTURE.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THAT SHOWS 12 ENTRANCES.
THAT ONE I BELIEVE DOES, DOES, THERE'S TWO ON THE LOWER LEVEL, UM, ON THE BASEMENT UNITS OF THE YEAH, THE HIGHLIGHT.
YEAH, THEY DON'T NEED, UM, YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE INTERIOR BECAUSE IT WOULD CONSTITUTE A DEAD END CORRIDOR.
SO WHAT, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT, UM, A NURSING HOME? IS THAT REGULATED BY THE STATE? THAT IS REGULATED? SO, SO THE STATE CODE REGULATIONS THAT, SO HERE YOU'RE DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE NURSING HOME USE IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION.
THE STATE WILL COME IN AND REGULATE, UM, THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE NURSING HOME.
I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE STATE AS FAR AS LICENSING.
WELL, WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO IS, IS A 55 AND OLDER, AND IT'S MORE OF AN INDEPENDENT, LIKE ASSISTED LIVING.
BUT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN YOUR CODE FOR THAT.
SO IT'S NOT A NURSING HOME IS ON DEMAND.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC NEED IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE A NURSING, REGULAR NURSING HOME.
UM, WHAT A AL IS, IS YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
I RAN LOVING ARMS ASSISTANT LIVING FOR ALMOST 18 YEARS.
UM, WHAT I DON'T SEE IN THE COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON AN ASSISTED LEVEL SO THAT SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T NEED ALL OF THE HELP THAT A NURSING HOME BED WOULD NEED, WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND LOWER INCOME TYPE UNITS THAT THEY COULD HAVE THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO TOWN, HAVE LAUNDRY FACILITIES AND HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THAT CHECKS ON THEM DAILY.
AND THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE STATE WOULD ACTUALLY LICENSE THIS IS DEPENDENT ON THEM AND WHAT THEY FEEL THE NEED IS.
SO YOU CAN HAVE WHAT'S CONSIDERED A INDEPENDENT ASSISTED LIVING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE LICENSURE, BUT IT, THAT IS WHAT THE USE IS.
SO IT WOULD BE FOR 55 AND OLDER ASSISTED LIVING QUALITY ROOMS. SO, HA HA.
HAVE YOU, UH, APPLIED TO THE STATE YET, OR ARE YOU NOT GOING TO I DON'T NEED TO RE
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APPLY TO THE STATE UNTIL THE STRUCTURE'S DONE.THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR ME UNTIL AFTER I HAVE ALL MY CERTIFICATES.
AND AT THIS POINT, I CAN TELL YOU THEY DO NOT REQUIRE A LICENSE FOR A INDEPENDENT ASSISTED LIVING.
NOW THAT COULD CHANGE TOMORROW.
YOU ALL KNOW HOW ALS WORK? QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
THE RESIDENTS, EXCUSE ME, THE RESIDENTS IN THE S NURSING HOME, WHERE, WHERE WILL THEY EAT? I DON'T SEE IN THE ROOMS. SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHERE THE TABLES ARE.
IT'S, THERE'S GONNA BE JUST LITTLE MINI EFFICIENCY.
THERE IS A REFRIGERATOR AND THERE IS A MICROWAVE.
OKAY, BUT NO COMMUNAL KITCHEN? NO, MA'AM.
NO, THESE ARE EFFICIENCIES IN THE FACT OF AN AL JUST LIKE YOU WOULD DO IF YOU HAD A SENIOR LIVING APARTMENT BUILDING.
BUT THEY MAY REQUIRE HELP WITH LAUNDRY.
THEY MAY REQUIRE HELP WITH HOUSEKEEPING.
THEY NEED TO BE IN A EFFICIENCY BECAUSE THEY CAN NO LONGER MANAGE LIFE ON THEIR OWN INDEPENDENTLY.
IS THERE A LAUNDRY, LAUNDRY THERE OR, YES.
ON THE LOWER LEVEL, YES MA'AM.
AND, UH, LIKE ACTIVITIES OF, I'M HOPING TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE LIKE A BUS STOP NEAR THERE SO THEY CAN GET TO DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE, UM, THAT IS NOT JUST A GROUP HOME OR A TRADITIONAL NURSING HOME AND YOUR CODE DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO FIX THIS.
THIS IS THE CLOSEST THAT LAUREN COULD FIND TO WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
THERE CERTAINLY IS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK, LAUREN, WE WENT THROUGH YOUR CODE AND IT SAID IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE LICENSED IN ORDER TO FIT THE CRITERIA.
UM, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH IT, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE DEFINITION.
SO, AND I'LL PROVIDE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE DEFINITION AND ALL THE CODES AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL PUT IN THAT REPORT, I'LL DO ANALYSIS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU KNOW OF? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE PPLICANT OR THE STAFF ON NURSING HOME? OKAY.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
APPLICATION NUMBER 2 3 1 52 1 16 SOUTH STATE LLC.
DO YOU WANT THIS SO THAT THAT'S NOT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, THAT'S JUST, YOU WANT THE SITE PLAN UP FIRST? YEAH.
CAN YOU GET IT UP THERE? MM-HMM.
NOW WE DO NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS TO COUNSEL.
THIS GOES TO APPROVAL DIRECTLY TO YOU, CORRECT? YEAH.
UH, CAN YOU ADVANCE THE, NOT ADVANCE THE SLIDES OR YOU JUST SCROLL ON THAT? CONNIE, KIND OF SCROLL ON THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO IT WITH THAT OR NOT.
SCROLLING, SCROLLING, SCROLLING.
SO THAT'S PORT PALUKA'S RESTAURANT, UH, MAJOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ONE 16 SOUTH STREET.
IT'S FOR, UH, BASICALLY A PARKING LOT EXPANSION AND AN ADDITION TO THE CURRENT RESTAURANT.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT DEPICTED THERE.
SO THE, UH, CURRENT RESTAURANT SETS HERE, AND THEY'LL BE ADDING PARKING ACROSS THE STREET ON THESE TWO LOTS HERE TO ACCOMMODATE.
AND THEY WILL DO AN EXPANSION ON THE EXISTING BUILDING AND RENOVATE A LITTLE BIT OF THE EXISTING PARKING.
UH, THAT'S THE CONCEPT THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED THERE.
THEY'LL PUT IN AN ADDITION AGAIN HERE ON SPLUNK'S RESTAURANT, ADD A LITTLE BIT AND RECONFIGURE THE IN AND OUT OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH HERE AND ADD PARKING ON THE TWO LOTS ACROSS THE STREET TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT USES THE RESTAURANT.
UH, THAT'S THE REST OF THE SITE PLAN DRAWING, UH, KIND OF IRRELEVANT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW, UH, STORMWATER AND E N S AND, UH, THE LIKE, UH, THE TOWN PLAN.
UH, WE DID REVIEW, UH, THE SITE PLAN, UH, AND WE DID SEND 24 COMMENTS, UH, TO THE, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER WHO SUBMITTED THE DRAWINGS.
UH, PART OF THOSE COMMENTS IS INCLUDED,
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UH, HERE, IF YOU, UH, WE CAN REVIEW THOSE.UH, BASICALLY CAN YOU SCROLL WITH THAT? CONNIE, DID YOU INCLUDE THAT IN HER PACKET OR NOT? NO.
SO WE DO, WE DID DO COMMENTS ON THEM.
UH, BASICALLY A COUPLE OF ITEMS. WE PROVIDED CHECKLIST WITH 36 ITEMS. UH, ONE PART OF THE CHECKLIST.
WE MADE A COMMENT THAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE SPOT ELEVATIONS, UH, FOR THE RE RECONFIGURATION OF THE EXISTING PARKING.
THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 20 ON THE CHECKLIST.
ITEM 24, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE RADIUS RETURNS TO THE CURB AND GUTTER EDGE PAVEMENT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WE DID NOT SEE, UH, ON THE NEW PARKING LOT.
UH, THE LIGHT FIXTURES THEY INSTALLED DID NOT FALL IN THE CATEGORY FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, WE'D LIKE THE PARKING LOT SPACES BE DENOTED.
UH, THEY HAD A FEW GRAMMAR AREA ERRORS AS FAR AS, UH, REFERRING TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES INSTEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS.
AND, UM, THEY NEED TO ENCLOSE THE, UH, RELOCATED PROPANE TANKS WITH A FENCE.
PUBLIC WORKS DID FURNISH, UH, FOUR COMMENTS ADDRESSING, UH, THE EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER ON SOUTH SIDE OR SOUTH STREET.
UH, ALSO ON PINE STREET A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UH, ASKING FOR A DUMPSTER, A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AROUND A NEW LOCATION OF THE DUMPSTER.
UH, OUR TOWN, ARBORS DID HAVE TWO COMMENTS.
YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A DETAIL ON THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA AND FOR THEM TO REPLANT ANY TREES THAT ARE DAMAGED OR ARE DYING DURING FINAL INSPECTION.
DID HAVE, UH, SEVERAL COMMENTS, SEVEN COMMENTS, BASICALLY JUST RELATING TO DETAILS THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE SHOWN ON THE PLANS AS FAR AS THE DUMPSTER PAD, THE SIZE OF THE CONDUITS AND THE LIKE.
UH, WE DID GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEER THIS WEEK.
UH, HE HAS NOT RECEIVED COMMENTS BACK FROM WARREN COUNTY, BUT HE HOPES TO HAVE THESE COMMENTS THAT WE SENT THEM ADDRESSED BY MID TO LATE MAY.
BUT AS FAR AS, UH, THE COMMENTS ARE BASICALLY ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ISSUES WITH ENGINEERING PART OF IT THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE TOWN ORDINANCE IN THE CHECKLIST THAT'S IN THE CODE.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE CAN, SO FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THEY'RE ADDING ONTO THE BUILDING.
ARE THEY ADDING ON MORE SEATING? YES.
OR IS THIS FOR MORE SEATING? MORE SEATING.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HUGE TRAFFIC PROBLEM UP THERE.
AND YOU SAID THEY REDESIGNED THE, THE STACKING LANES? YES.
DID THEY INCREASE IT AT ALL? YES.
SO THEY ACCOMMODATED MORE PARKING ON SITE, RECONFIGURED ENTRANCE COMING THROUGH THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
THEN ADDED THE TWO PARKING LOTS IF, OR ONE PARKING LOT IF YOU WOULD ON THE TWO LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.
WELL, THE, THE PARKING LOT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.
THE STACKING LANE IS, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WHEN THEY BACK OUT ONTO SOUTH STREET? YEAH.
SO, BUT YOU SAY THEY LENGTHENED THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, THEY RECONFIGURED THAT AIRED, ACCOMMODATE THE, TO THE DRIVE THROUGH.
UM, SO THAT YOU, YOU STILL HAVE CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE BY THE 17TH, WE CANNOT APPROVE THE SITE PLAN, CORRECT? OR I, 'EM, THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.
I MEAN, WE, THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE CONDITION, BUT OKAY.
AND MAY SAY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM BY THE 17TH OR THE, THEY SAID MID TO LATE MAY.
SO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE 17TH.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR, OR THE DIRECTOR ON, ON THAT? OKAY, WE WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR MAY 17TH.
THIS BEEN BEFORE US BEFORE, HASN'T IT? UH, WE WERE REZONED IT, REMEMBER IT CUZ THAT WAS ON, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND WE TURNED IT INTO COMMERCIAL.
UH, WITH THE INTENT OF THEM DOING, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE INTENDED TO DOING.
I, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE, IF THEY EXPAND THE FOOD LINE, ADDING A COUPLE PARKING TO THE STACKING LANE IS NOT GONNA SOLVE THE ISSUE OF THE TRAFFIC.
WE'RE NOT ADDING PARKING TO THE STACKING, THE PARKING IS JUST FOR THE SEATING INSIDE.
BUT, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, OR NOT WE GOT
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A COPY, BUT I JUST, I JUST DO, DO WE HAVE STACKING PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR A DRIVE THROUGH AS TO HOW MANY SPACES? NO.PLACES? I DON'T THINK THAT WE DO.
WE, WE JUST HAVE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THE, UH, SEATING.
THE SEATING OR THE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE RESTAURANT.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE DRIVE-THROUGH THE NUMBER OF, UH, STACKING UNITS.
JUST THE PARKING IS RELATED TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING OR THE NUMBER OF SEATS.
I SUPPOSE THEY'D BE WILLING TO ADD A THIRD LANE ON SOUTH STREET, WOULDN'T IT? THEY NEED TO.
CHICK-FIL-A IS DOUBLE STACKED.
THE HAVE THE DOUBLE DRIVETHROUGH? YEAH, LIKE MCDONALD'S.
JUST LIKE MCDONALD'S DID DOUBLE.
THEY PROBABLY JUST NEED TO BIGGER LOT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN, UH, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT THIS LOCATION.
WHAT'S THAT? THEY'VE ALWAYS, SPLUNKERS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
WELL IT USED TO BE ARTHUR WAS ARTHUR S WHAT WAS SIMON PETS HAD A, HAD A TWO STORY BUILDING THERE.
WHAT WAS THE CAT? UH, CAT CAFE.
COMPTON BUILT IT AS ORIGINALLY LONG JOHN SILVERS, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
OKAY, SO THIS IS BACK TO, HEY, WITHDRAW THIS EARLIER.
SO THEN YOU, YOU PUT THE ZONING IN.
ALL, ALL WE'RE DOING IS JUST CONFIRMING THE SITE PLAN.
UM, THERE, THERE IS NO REZONING REQUEST.
I JUST HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE, THAT THEIR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STACKING LANE WILL HELP THE TRAFFIC SITUATION THERE.
THAT'S IS PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY DIRE AT LUNCHTIME AND ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM, UH, APPLICATION 2300 208 RANDOLPH MACON ACADEMY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE TO THE PENALTY BOX.
RIGHT? THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE BACK TO AGAIN.
APPLICATION 23 DOUBLE 0 2 0 8 IS FOR FACULTY HOUSING LOCATED AT, UH, RANDOLPH LINCOLN ACADEMY, UH, SCHOOL.
UM, UH, YOU HEARD, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT WAS CONSIDERED AND REZONING, UH, IN DECEMBER.
UH, BUT THEN, UH, DECIDED TO DO A, UH, WAY THE LOT WAS TO, UH, ESTABLISH A PRIMARY USE ON THE LOT WHERE THEY COULD DO THE FACULTY HOUSING ON THIS LOT.
UH, THE ENGINEER DID SUBMIT AN ENGINEERING DRAWING.
UH, THEY WERE PROVIDED A, UH, OUR SITE DEVELOPMENT CHECKLIST, WHICH IS 36 ITEMS THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CHECKLIST.
WE DID NOT DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW OF THIS 36 ITEMS THAT'S REQUIRED ON THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
18 OF THEM WERE NOT COMPLETED, SO IT WAS VERY HARD FOR, TO MAKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW WITH 18 OTHER REQUIREMENTS MISSING FROM THE DRAWING.
UH, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE A LANDSCAPING PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, THERE IS A, CONNIE, DID YOU CHECK, UH, INCLUDE THE CHECKLIST IN THIS? I DID NOT.
SO, UH, PART OF THE CHECKLIST ITEMS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED ON THEIR SITE PLAN REVIEW OR ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, UM, I CAN GO OVER THOSE, UH, WITH YOU.
UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE PROFILES, UH, UH, ON THE SHEETS AS REQUIRED.
UH, THEY ALSO DID NOT, UH, INCLUDE, UH, THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY WITH THE, UH, BASED ON N A V A DA DATUM 88.
UH, WERE YOU DARL VERTICAL DATO? YEAH.
THEY DID NOT PROVIDE WHERE THEY OBTAINED THAT FROM, UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE, UH, UH, PROPOSED WATER SUPPLY AND DISTRIBUTION TO THE BUILDING.
THE FIRE FLOW DATA WAS NOT THERE FOR REVIEW.
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UH, THEY ALSO DID NOT PROVIDE THE LOCATION AND THE GRADE OF EXISTING, UH, SANITARY, UH, MANHOLES THAT'S ON THE STREET.UH, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE A SANITARY SEWER OR LATERAL SCHEDULE FOR THE TOWN.
THEY DID NOT PROVIDE DESIGN COMPUTATIONS FOR CONFIRMING ADEQUATE CHANNEL FOR THE STORM WATER.
THEY DID NOT PROVIDE COMPUTATIONS FOR STORM WATER, UH, DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.
UH, DID, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE PROPOSED SANITARY STORM SEWER, WATERLINE AND DRAINAGE, OUTFALL ADEQUACY.
MAYBE IT'D BE EASIER IF YOU JUST TOLD US WHAT THEY DID DO.
UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE PROFILES ON THE STATIONS.
UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE A PROPOSED STREET IMPROVEMENT, UH, TYPICAL SECTION.
UM, SPEAKING OF THE STREETS, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, JOHN? YES.
ARE THEY GONNA ACCESS, UH, WEST MAIN? NO.
BUT THEY SHOW A CONNECTION HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S EXISTING.
OKAY, SO THAT'S EXISTING SO THAT, SO, SO THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THAT BUT NOT USE IT AS CORRECT AS THAT.
CAUSE THERE IS SITE DISTANCE ISSUE THERE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S A GATE THERE, ISN'T THERE? YEAH.
THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ANY, UH, BENCHMARK REFERENCE MARKS.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO FOR THAT, UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE THE WIDTH AND THE USE OF, OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS THAT STATED ON THE DRAWING, WHICH, UM, I CAN, THERE'S A RIGHT OF WAY THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLANS ON YOUR DRAWING.
UM, WE GOING DOWN, UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE THE RADIUS WHEN THE CURB RETURNS FOR THE, UH, PARKING.
UH, THEY ALSO DID NOT PROVIDE, UH, LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY CORNERS AND, UH, DID NOT LABEL THE EXISTING STREETS AND THEY DID NOT, UH, UH, ADD THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS DEED REFERENCE IS ON THE OTHER SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, SO THEY DID NOT INCLUDE A LANDSCAPING PLAN.
THEY DID NOT TAKE AN ACCOUNT RETAINING WALL IN THE BACK.
THAT IS, UH, DEPICTED HERE WITH THIS LINE HERE? YEAH.
THE HEIGHT OF THAT I BELIEVE IS OVER SIX FEET, WHICH TAKES, UH, PERMISSION OR GRANTED BY TOWN COUNCIL FOR A RETAINING WALL OF THAT HEIGHT.
UH, THEY DID NOT TAKE AN ACCOUNT, ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND THE STEEP SLOPES ON THAT BACK OF THE LOCKED, THAT WAS BASICALLY THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW THAT WE COULD DO AS STAFF WITH THIS PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE DIRECTOR? ALL WE'RE EARLY IN THE PHASE ON THIS, RIGHT? YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE NEED TO, WE, WE, WE'VE ALL KIND OF APPROVED THE CONCEPT OF, OF DORMITORY HOUSING OR AUXILIARY HOUSING FOR THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND I SPOKE, I SPOKE WITH THE ENGINEER EARLIER TODAY.
HE IS GONNA GET A REVISED SET OF PLANS IN NEXT WEEK.
I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO PLAN OR NOT.
YOU WANNA TAKE IT TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION? IF THEY DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING READY BY THE 17TH, WE'LL JUST PUSH IT ON TO THE NEXT AND YOU CAN JUST TAKE IT TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION.
YOU THINK WE'LL NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH.
YEAH, I'M GLAD THESE FOLKS IN THE BUILDING AIRPLANES TODAY.
THE, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT ACCESS ON WEST MAIN, SINCE WE'RE NOT MAKING 'EM DO CURB AND GUTTER OR ANYTHING IMPROVEMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOMETHING ON THE SITE PLAN THAT SAYS THEY WILL NOT BE USING THAT AS, AS ACCESS OTHER THAN FOR THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES OR WHATEVER THEY, THE, THE FIELD FACILITIES THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO STAFF? I JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION TO OKAY.
SO WE'LL TENTATIVELY SET IT FOR THE 17TH.
IF THEY GET ALL THE STUFF BACK IN, WE WILL.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY DO RESUBMIT.
UH, TOWN STAFF WOULD HAVE TWO WEEKS CORRECT.
FOR ALL AGENCIES, ENERGY SERVICES AND PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE COMMENTS TO RESPOND.
AND THEN SEND THOSE COMMENTS BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS.
WELL, WHO KNOWS? MAYBE TOMORROW THEY'LL COM SUBMIT A COMPLETE PLAN IF THEY, SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE TIME, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUSH IT TO JUNE.
YOU THINK WE SHOULD PUSH IT TO JUNE? ANYTHING? I THINK THAT'S THE SAFE BACK.
I I THINK IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE.
WHAT'S THAT? I THINK WE SHOULD JUST PUT IT, PUSH IT TO JUNE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, WELL I WON'T GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE OWE THEM THAT, THAT IF, IF THEY CAN WORK A MIRACLE AND GET EVERYTHING HERE, WE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE AS QUICKLY AS THEY WANT.
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THEY WAS INFORMED.YOU KNOW, THEY WAS INFORMED APRIL 20TH.
WELL HOPEFULLY, UM, WE, WE'VE LAID DOWN THE GAUNTLET FOR, OKAY, MR. MICHAEL, YOU MAY COME AND RETURN SHERIFF'S SEAT NOW RETURN WELCOME BACK TO THE TABLE WHEN WE LAY SOMETHING ON THE TABLE.
NO, DON'T, DON'T CLOSE YOUR BOOK HERE.
UH, UNDER OTHER, THE FIRST ITEM WE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AND THE OPENING STATEMENT WAS THE AUTHORIZATION, UH, TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
LAUREN, IF YOU DO BRING US UP TO SPEED ON THIS, UM, THIS PAST, SO MAY 1ST, COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE, UM, TO 1 75 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO, UM, ALLOW CEMETERIES IN THE R THREE DISTRICT.
UH, WE HAD AN APPLICATION COME IN ON TUESDAY, SO MAY 2ND.
WE HAVE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING WITH BETWEEN PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL TO HEAR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND COUNCIL IS REQUESTING THIS, COUNSEL IS REQUESTING THAT WE TAKE THIS UP.
UM, SO I'M JUST PULLING UP THE ORDINANCE HERE.
THEY'RE REQUESTING THE PERMISSION FOR, UH, ONE, UH, GRAVE SITE.
SO IN A CEMETERY TO BE LOCATED AT DYNAMIC LIFE CHURCH.
UM, SO IT IS THE APPLICATION COMPLETE.
SO THIS IS FOR 1600, UH, JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY.
UM, OH, WE, THEY HIRED THEIR, UM, THEY GOT THE SURVEYOR TODAY.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ACTUAL PLAT SHOWING WHERE THE GRAVE SITE WILL BE.
UH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF BY NEXT WEDNESDAY.
YOU HAVE THREE DRAWINGS SHOWING THE LOCATION WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE SURVEYED, INCLUDING THAT, THAT GRAVE IN THERE.
SO THE ONE MAP SHOWS A BLUE DOT, UH, THE OTHER ONE HAS THE PLAT OF THE PROPERTY ACCORDING TO THAT LOCATION.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER HAND DRAWING THAT GIVES DIMENSIONS OF THE GRAVE SITE TO THE PARKING AREA INTO I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
SO, BUT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SURVEY PLAT YET? NO.
THEY HIRED THE SURVEYOR YESTERDAY.
BUT WE NEED THAT TO, WE NEED THAT AS PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT.
SO FOR 1 0 7 0.4, UM, THE, THE FIRST CONDITION IS THAT OUR PROVISION IS THAT THE CEMETERY USAGE SHALL BE LOCATED WITHIN A CHURCHYARD AND DESIGNATED ON A PLAT TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT PLAT, UH, WE'LL HAVE IT IN TIME FOR THE 22ND.
I'M SORRY YOU TO HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON TO VERIFY THAT WE HAD THE PLAT.
I WAS JUST WHEN ASK THAT SHOULD WE 17TH HAVE A WORK SESSION ON OUR MEETING ON THE 17TH TO REVIEW THE PLA TO REVIEW THE PLAT? DO Y'ALL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? MAYBE DIRECTLY AFTER THE REGULAR MEETING AND HAVE A SHORT WORK SESSION IF NEEDED? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
THAT WAY YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PLAT, VERIFY THAT EVERYTHING IS THERE AND THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN FORWARD MOVE RIGHT AHEAD WITH IT.
BUT TONIGHT WE JUST NEED A CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, OUR ADVERTISING.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE ADVERTISEMENT.
UM, MARTIN, ARE YOU OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD ADVERTISING? ABSOLUTELY.
AND ALL OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND ON THE 22ND MONDAY.
UM, I THINK THE ESSENTIAL PURPOSE OF THE PLATH IS TO DESIGNATE THE CHURCHYARD.
I'M NOT, I DON'T, I HOPE THAT'S BEEN CONVEYED WELL, THAT IT'S NOT SUBMITTED YET, BUT IT WILL BE HOPE.
WE, WE REALLY NEED THAT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT RIGHT THEN.
AND THAT CHURCHYARD IS TO BE NO MORE THAN IT THEN NO MORE THAN TWO ACRES.
AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR REVIEWING IT.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE A CHECKLIST FOR A CHURCHYARD SURVEY ANNUITY YET.
WE'RE CONSIDERING IT AS LIKE AN, I MEAN, DOES THE PLAN HAVE TO BE SIGNED BY COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION OR, OH, I DON'T THINK SO.
IT'S JUST PART OF THE APPLICATION.
AND THEN THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE PLAT, I THINK IT'S IN, IN TOWNS STATE RECORDS.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE RECORDED.
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APPLICANT IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT SURVEY.SO IT NEEDS TO SHOW THE LOCATION YEAH.
OF THE SITE IN PROPORTION OR WITH ITS RELATIONS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCES.
Y'ALL APPROVED AT THE MEETING? YEP.
UH, ONE LAST ITEM ON OTHER COMP PLAN.
SO SUMMIT HAS RECEIVED THE, UM, FINAL CONTRACT AND THEY STARTED MAKING REVISIONS TODAY.
UM, SO I WILL HAVE A, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FINAL DOCUMENT IN YOUR PACKETS NEXT WEEK.
SO, CAUSE WE HAVE POSTPONED THE, THE MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT MOTION AT THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU WILL HAVE THAT FINAL CO PLAN.
ANY OTHER ITEM NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THIS DELIBERATIVE BODY TODAY, MR. THIS CHAIRMAN WILL MOVE TO ADJOURN.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND EVERYBODY THAT STANDS UP AND LEAVES WILL APPROVE THAT MOTION.