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ALRIGHT,[Board of Architectural Review on January 10, 2023.]
SEVEN O'CLOCK.I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
AND HE IS ABSENT AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UH, MOVING ON TO, UH, THE PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES.
I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THEM OVER.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE THOUGHT ANYTHING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 13TH MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE CAN OPEN UP THE, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO A, UH, A PRESENTATION.
JOHN, TONIGHT'S BUSINESS, UH, TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR APPLICATION 22 0 5 44.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO DEMOLISH AND REMOVE A PORTION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT FOUR 15 EAST MAIN STREET, THE PROPERTY ZONE C2.
IT IS, IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND IS IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 28 8, SECTION EIGHT PARCEL SIX.
UH, INCLUDED IN WITH YOUR PACKET WITH THE STAFF REPORT, UH, DEMOLITION REVIEW GUIDELINES, UH, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION, AND THE PRESERVATION ASSOCIATES OF VIRGINIA REPORT FROM 1994.
UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST INTACT LATE 19TH CENTURY FACADES ON MAIN STREET.
UH, THE ESTIMATED DATE OF CONSTRUCTION OCCURRED BETWEEN 1870 TO 1880, UH, FOR THAT PORTION ALONG BLUE RIDGE AVENUE.
THIS HERE ON EAST MAIN STREET.
UH, PART OF THE, UH, PROCESS IS THIS SECTION HERE, WHICH HAS MASONITE SIDING, UH, THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND EXPOSED, UH, DOOR AND WINDOWS THAT WERE CLOSED UP AT SOME POINT.
THIS IS A SECTION ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE.
UH, THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING ON BLUE RIDGE WAS FILLED IN, UH, TWO DIFFERENT TIMEFRAMES, UH, WHEN THAT AREA WAS COMPLETED ON BLUE RIDGE AVENUE, UH, BY 9 18 91, THE, THE REMAINING THREE BASE SECTION, WHICH WAS LOCATED HERE ON THE FRONT, WAS ADDED ON.
UH, WHILE THESE BUILDINGS ARE UNIFIED IN DESIGN, THERE ARE STILL A CLEAR DEFINITION OF THREE SEPARATE BUILDING UNITS DUE TO SPACING SIZE IN THE BUILDING HEIGHTS.
UH, THE BUILDING WAS PRIMARILY USED AS A GENERAL MERCHANDISE AND GENERAL STORE.
AND, UH, THE AREA IN THE BACK, WE HAVE NO, UH, EVIDENCE OF THE TIME WHEN THAT WAS COMPLETED.
THE EXTERIOR OF THE WALLS IS WOOD FRAME, WAS STUCCO APPLIED OVER THE, UH, WOOD FRAME.
UH, THE STUCCO IS ROUGH IN THE EXTERIOR.
UH, THE BUILDING HAS A STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF AND THE REAR SECTION OF THE BUILDING THAT IS CONSIDERATION OF BEING DEMOLISHED HAS SIGNS OF FIRE AND WATER DAMAGE.
UH, THIS IS A SECTION OF THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AND TO THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE RIGHT WHERE THE PARAPET WALLS GO UP.
THIS WAS THE SECOND ADDITION TO THE BUILDING UNDER THE REAR.
IN THIS THIRD PIECE, OVER TO THE LEFT HERE WAS, UH, NO DATE ON THAT COMPLETION.
UH, THAT WAS BASICALLY LIKE AN LEAN TWO ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, UH, AND FURTHER TIME, UH, GOING INSIDE YOU, WE CAN CLEARLY SEE AN INSIDE OF THIS BUILDING WHERE THESE TWO BUILDINGS, UH, ARE, WOULD BE SEPARATED.
THIS WAS ADDED TO AND THE EXTERIOR SIDING INSIDE IS STILL INTACT.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND WITH THE STAFF FINDINGS THAT THE BUILDING INTERIOR HAS SUFFERED AT LEAST THREE FIRES DURING ITS TIME.
IT HAS COMPROMISED THE INTEGRITY OF THE RAFTERS, THE WALL STUDS IN THE FLOOR.
JOICE, UH, THE BUILDING IS LOCATED WITHIN THE FEMA SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA ZONE AE
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AND IS OBJECTED TO THE 1% CHANCE OF ANNUAL FLOODING.UH, THE BUILDING CURRENTLY HAS VALID PERMITS FOR THE RENOVATION OF THREE SECOND FLOOR DWELLING UNITS, AND SOME WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR FOR STRUCTURAL SUPPORT OF THE WORK BEING DONE ON THE UPPER FLOOR.
UH, PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT THE FRONT WILL BE REFURBISHED AND, UH, THE EXTERIOR PAINTED THOSE DOORS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WILL BE EXPOSED THAT WERE COVERED IN MAITE SIDING.
UH, THE DOOR AND THE WINDOWS WILL BE ADDED.
UH, SO THAT SECTION IN THE FRONT, UH, THIS SIDE ON BLUE RIDGE, THEY'LL REFURBISH, UH, THE SIDE OF THE STUCCO AND PAINT THE EXTERIOR.
UH, THERE ON THE BACK PART WE CAN SEE, UH, THE NEW ADDITION WE PUT ON, UH, THE DOOR.
THERE WILL BE A NEW METAL DOOR, TWO HOUR, UH, FIRE RATING ON THAT AND STAIRS WILL BE ADDED TO THE BACK HERE, UH, METAL OR WOODEN STAIRS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, WILL, UM, RELY ON THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE.
UH, THIS IS A SECTION OF THE BUILDING, AGAIN, THE RENDERING.
THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING HERE AT THE BACK.
THEY WILL ADD A, UH, NEW METAL DOORS HERE IN THE BACK FOR THE FIRST LEVEL.
A NEW METAL DOOR HERE TO GO TO THE SECOND LEVEL.
EXISTING WINDOWS HERE AND HERE WILL BE, UH, REPURPOSED.
AND A NEW WINDOW WITH THE WOOD TRIM WILL BE ADDED THERE.
UH, THE NEXT SECTION HERE, UH, THAT'S THE METAL STAIRCASE GOING UP.
NEW WOOD EXTERIOR SIDING, VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST EDITION OF THE BUILDING THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE INSIDE.
A NEW METAL DOOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND WINDOWS.
UH, WHAT WOOD TRIM WILL BE ADDED TO THAT SECTION OF THE ADDITION.
UH, THE METAL ROOF WILL BE STANDING SCENE METAL ROOF.
UH, THIS IS THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING.
THE TWO AREAS MARKED WITH THE XS ARE THE AREAS OF THEY'RE NEEDING TO, UH, DEMOLISH AND TO RENOVATE.
UH, SO THIS WAS THE FIRST SECTION OF THE BUILDING.
THEN THIS PART WAS ADDED BY 1891 ON BLUE RIDGE.
AND THEN THIS SECTION WAS ADDED HERE ON EAST MAIN STREET.
UH, THE TWO SECTIONS WITH THE XS ARE, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONFIRMATION OF WHAT TIME THE LEANN TWOS WERE ADDED TO THAT BUILDING.
UH, THAT IS THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED, UH, BUILDING WITH THE EXTENSION AND THE ADDITION HERE IN THE BACK HERE.
AND THE LAYOUT OF THE, UH, THE FIRST, UH, FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THAT'S A RENDERING OF THE, UH, SECOND FLOOR IN THE DARK SHADED AREA THAT IS RENOVATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GONE ON TO THE, UH, THREE EXISTING UPSTAIRS DWELLING UNITS.
UH, THIS AREA HERE IN THE MIDDLE WILL BE OPEN TO B UH, BELOW.
AND THIS IS AN UPPER LEVEL ADDED TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE NEW EDITION.
THAT'S THE SCHEMATIC OF THE FRONT VIEW OF IT WITH THE WINDOWS, WHICH WILL BE REPURPOSED, REFURBISHED OF THE STUCCO.
UH, NEW PAINT ON THE EXTERIOR.
AND AGAIN, THE DOORS HERE WILL BE EXPOSED THAT HAVE BEEN COVERED WITH MASONITE SIDING.
THAT'S THE SIDE OF BLUE RIDGE AVENUE.
UH, AGAIN SHOWING THE ADDITION TO THE BACK ONLY ON THAT ONE SECTION, UH, WITH THE STAIRS IN THE DOOR, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING DOOR THAT IS HERE ON BLUE RIDGE OF THE MEADOW MEADOW DOOR WITH A TWO HOUR FIRE RATING.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, THE BOARD FOR THE STAFF REPORT? UH, WE HAD A FIELD VISIT ON FRIDAY AS A REMINDER, UH, TO VIEW THE BUILDING FROM THE, UH, OUTSIDE AND AS WELL AS THE BACK PORTION THAT THE REQUESTING DO BE DEMOLISHED.
THAT, UH, YOU MAY WANNA ELABORATE WITH YOURSELVES AND WITHIN THE PUBLIC OF THE, UH, FIRE DAMAGE AND THE WATER DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE TO THE RAFTERS AND THE STUDS AND THE SUNKEN IN FLOOR.
UH, WE DID NOTE THAT, UH, WE BELIEVE THE BUILDING HAD THREE FIRES INSIDE IT AT ONE TIME DURING ITS LIFE.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL BUILDING REMAINS INTACT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE OLDEST ONES THERE ON EAST MAIN STREET.
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NOPE.I THINK WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS MEETING.
OUR LIST IS WILLIAM, I COME UP.
HELLO, MY NAME IS WILLIAM HUCK, 4 0 9 EAST MAIN STREET HERE IN FORT WALL.
UH, I'VE BEEN HERE GOING ON EIGHT YEARS NOW.
AND THIS BUILDING AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE HAS BEEN BEEN A TALK OF THE TOWN TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE WITH IT.
I, I WANT, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
WE, WE WITH, WITH OWNING 4 0 9 AND FOUR 13, UH, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT, THAT, THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING THIS AND WHATNOT, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WHERE WE HAVE A SUB PUMP AND THEN OUR ELECTRICAL METER WAS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
WELL, THIS YEAR WE UPGRADED OUR ELECTRICAL SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO OCCUR THAT COST DOWN THE LINE.
SO WE MOVED OUR METER FROM THE SIDE.
SO THE LITTLE METER ON THE SIDE, IT SHOWS ELECTRICAL ON OUR BUILDING IS NO LONGER THERE.
WE ARE 100% IN FAVOR OF THEM BRINGING LIFE BACK TO MAIN STREET IN THIS LOCATION.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE WATER FLOW, THAT THE, THE WATER FLOW MAY ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THE WATER FLOW AND THE SUB PUMP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO AND SAY THAT YES, WE NEED, WE NEED TO ALLOW THIS TO TAKE PLACE SO THAT WE CAN BETTER GROW HERE IN FRONT.
SO I AM NINA HUCK, UH, 4 0 9 EAST MAIN STREET, CO-OWNER OF CNC FROZEN TREATS IN FAVOR OF, UH, THAT PORTION BEING DEMOLISHED.
AGAIN, OUR ISSUE AND CONCERN IS THE SUB PUMP THAT, THAT WE, THAT, THAT SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS SO THAT WATER DOESN'T COME BACK INTO OUR BUILDING.
THAT, THAT SUB PUMP SAY DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GO OFF VERY OFTEN, BUT IT DOES SAVE WATER FROM COMING INTO FOUR 13.
WE DID NOT PUT THE SUB PUMP THERE.
ALL WE DID WAS REPLACE IT WITH A NEW ONE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THAT SUB PUMP IS ON THE PROPERTY OF ZONCA.
SO, OR WHOMEVER OWNS AND I DON'T NEED.
SO, BUT, BUT THAT, THAT IS OUR ONLY CONCERN AT ALL IS JUST THAT WE DON'T GET WATER BACK IN OUR BUILDING.
BUT LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE AND, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING NEW NEIGHBORS.
UM, JOE GILLETTE, I'M THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, PARKED ON A LOT OF BUILDINGS ON MAIN STREET.
THEY HAD TWIST MY ARM TO GET ME TO DO THIS ONE, BUT, UM, YEAH, THERE WAS TALKING ABOUT TEARING THE BUILDING DOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T THE FIRST CHOICE, OBVIOUSLY FOR HISTORIC REASONS.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE SAVING THE BUILDING NOW THE SINGLE STORY ADDITIONS THAT THERE'S REALLY NO RECORD OF.
THEY HAVE TO BE REBUILT ANYWAY AND IF WE WANT TO GO UP THE SECOND FLOOR, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO TAKE 'EM OUT OF THERE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SORT OF, BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE SMARTEST THING TO DO.
UM, FROM MY STANDPOINT AS A BUILDER AND DESIGNER, UH, AS FAR AS THE WATER GOES, I'VE NOTICED THE GRADING IS BETTER BEHIND THERE CUZ I'VE HAD TO MESS WITH THAT SALT POPE IN THE PAST FOR MR. ZKO.
UM, AND WE'LL ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE DO THE, UH, FOUNDATION WORK BACK THERE.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT PLAN IS BY THAT? THAT UM, WELL THERE WOULD, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'D BE A FOUNDATION WALL ON THE BUILDING AND THEN WE'D BRING IT UP CONCRETE ENOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE DRAIN TILE AROUND THAT.
SO ANY WATER'S NOT GONNA CONTINUE.
SO THE IDEA WAS ESSENTIALLY ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING TO DIG A FRENCH DRAIN THAT WOULD THEN TIE INTO LIKE, TOWARDS THE SIDEWALK.
AND THEN FROM, I THINK THERE'S OUTLETS UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK FOR, UM, THE GUTTERS RIGHT NOW.
SO ESSENTIALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT FROM COMING IN THE BACK DOOR.
ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SITTING, SITTING RIGHT HERE OF THE SITE VISIT AND THE PLAN, YOU READ PLANS ALL THE TIME, BUT THE NEW ADDITION IS NOT COMING PERPENDICULAR OFF THE STRUCTURE.
IT, THE PLANS HAVE IT COMING AT AN ANGLE AND THE ANGLE KIND OF ALLOWED A VERY SIMILAR FOOTPRINT.
IT'S NOT LIKE A HUGE EXPANSION OF MAYBE 10 FEET.
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WAY I NOTICED IT, THERE WAS AN ANGLE, SO THAT SUMP PUMP REGION WAS STILL FAIRLY OPEN.WELL THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA BE PINCHED DOWN.
UM, AND THEN IT JUST FURTHER, FURTHER TOWARDS JACKSON STREET WHERE THE WATER FLOWS, IT WOULD HIT THIS FRENCH DRAIN.
IT WOULDN'T EVEN GET TO THEIR BACK DOOR, WHICH SOME PUMPS PAST THAT.
BUT, UM, IT'S ONLY IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, THE OLD COOZER SHOE STORE AND THEIR SPACE.
IT, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY WATER IN Z'S SPACE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THROUGH THE ROOF
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JOE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, I WAS FOR, I'M CURRENTLY RETIRED AS FORMERLY ABLE BUILDING INSPECTION, INSPECTED A LOT OF PROPERTIES THROUGH, UH, ONE MAIN STREET AND TOWN AND COUNTY.
UH, WHILE I'M GENERALLY OPPOSED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT TO DEMOLITION OF EXISTING STRUCTURES, THE ADDITION THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO PART OF THE, THE BUILDING IS, UH, BEING PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED IS JUST REALLY NOT CONTRIBUTING.
IT'S VIRTUALLY INVISIBLE, UH, FROM MAIN STREET AT BLUE RIDGE AVENUE AND, AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO AROUND THE BACK TO EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, TYPICALLY I WOULD NOT, OR I WOULD OBJECT TO DEMOLITION OF A PART OF A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
THE SMALL AREA THAT IS, UH, BEING PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED IS JUST NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE AESTHETICS, UH, FUNCTION OF, OF THE, UH, BUILDING.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY CONTRIBUTES WHATSOEVER TO THE AESTHETICS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THE TOWN.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? NOT WE'LL CLOSE UP THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS MEETING.
UM, WANTED TO ASK YOU, YOU BEEN AROUND THE LONGEST.
UM, WHEN I WENT IN THERE, I COULD TELL THAT EVEN THE PARTS THAT THEY TALKING ABOUT JUST DEMOLISHING MM-HMM.
LIKE, LIKE WOOD SHOP PART, PROBABLY IN THE BACK, VERY BACK.
PROBABLY PUT IN THE, I'M GOING TO GUESS THE LATE FORTIES OR YEAH.
IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT WHEN IT WAS ADDED AND THEN LIKE YOU'RE SAYING AND LIKE JOHN ELABORATED ON IT WAS JUST KIND OF TACKED ON.
IT LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF IT HAS BEEN TACKED ON.
INSTEAD OF PARTS, BOTH THE SIDE AND THE TWO SIDES.
THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE MM-HMM.
SO IT, IT DOES LOOK LIKE A SHED WAS PUT ON THE, YOU KNOW.
ONE JILL, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, WHAT'S THE PLAN? I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SOME BRACING IN THERE RIGHT NOW, KIND OF SUPPORTING THE OLDER STRUCTURE.
IS THERE ANOTHER PLAN? I HADN'T SEEN IT HIGHLIGHTED AND I HAVEN'T TAKEN A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT YOUR DRAWINGS YET, BUT I HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING MENTIONING STABILIZING WHAT'S THERE DURING THE DEMOLITION PROCESS.
SO DON'T LET THE RISK OF USING ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY.
AND OBVIOUSLY WELL IT WON'T FALL IN OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF BLUE RIDGE AVENUE, WHICH I GOT A
UM, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ALL STABLE.
WE TAKE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME, BUT AT THIS POINT, I MEAN IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1861 ORIGINALLY IN THE FIRST SECTION AND IT, IT IS PRETTY STOUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S BALLOON FRAMING.
BUT WE'VE REINFORCED ALL THE FRAMING UPSTAIRS AND I'VE HAD ENGINEER IN THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND HE'S JUST WAITING FOR US TO FINALIZE THE PLAN.
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YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA GO ON THE ADDITION, BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA FALL OVER.I MEAN, ALTHOUGH IT COULD, YOU KNOW, FALL BY ITSELF REALLY, UM, IT'S, IT'LL BE STABILIZED.
CHAIRMAN, UH, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO, WE WOULD REQUIRE A DEMO PERMIT.
ITD EXPLAIN EXACTLY HOW ANY DEMOTION THAT SIGN PLACE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY BEFORE THAT'S ISSUED.
THERE WOULD BE REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT OVER THE DEMOLITION PROCESS.
THIS IS JUST THE FIRST AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT REGARDLESS OF MM-HMM.
WELL THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? OKAY.
OUT OF THE OPINION THAT, LIKE, UM, DAVID SAID THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE ALL THAT MUCH TO THE BUILDING.
IT WAS OBVIOUSLY ADDED ON AS A, TO AN AFTERTHOUGHT AS FAIR PARTS.
WE CAN SEE THE OLD OUTSIDE HERE FROM INSIDE THE SWING TO, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM REMOVING THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DUE DILIGENCE ON YOUR ALL'S PART TO STABILIZE THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WHATSOEVER.
I THINK WE'VE, IT CERTAINLY NEEDED THE REQUIREMENT.
MAKING SURE OF THAT AND THE SEEING THE INTERIOR, UM, REALLY HELPED.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF THE PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING INDICATED ON THE PLANS SECOND PROVIDED, UH, WELL I DON'T HAVE TO MENTION THAT CAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO IT ALREADY.
THE, THE DEMO PLAN THING? YEAH.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE DEMOLITION AS NOTED ON THE PLAN.
WHAT ELSE WE, ANYTHING ELSE? QUESTION? COME BACK TO THOSE DAYS.
THE NEW PLANS, ARE THOSE GONNA COME BACK BEFORE US AGAIN? BACK GOTCHA.
APPLICATION CHAIRS NOT SUPPOSED DOES THIS DOES IT'S FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION PRESIDE THAT'S NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
WELL, THE DEMO, JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS FOR DEMOLITION.
THIS LITTLE, IT'S ALL GROUPED TOGETHER BUT WE'RE THE APARTMENT, I MEAN YOU GUYS WANT TO PULL IT AS A SEPARATE ITEM ON IT TONIGHT? I MEAN WE DIDN'T DID YOU BRING THAT COLOR CHIP? I COULDN'T PAGE, I MAY NOT HAVE, IF THEY'RE NOT READY YOU DOING IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO WAIT A SEPARATE APPLICATION.
THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO CAN'T SEE.
CONCEPT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE, BRING IT BACK.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON HAVING, YOU SAID YOU'RE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO YOUR PLANS? UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REVISIONS, BUT WE'LL SUBMIT, UM, A REVISED SET OF PLANS, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO WHAT IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MUCH.
I I DON'T REALLY KNOW TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
IT'S SORT OF BEEN, YOU KNOW, I, MY EXPENSE IS I CAN BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT YOU GOTTA CLEAR OUT WHAT IT'S YOU WANT.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA THINK YOU HAVE THAT RESTAURANT SLASH FEBRUARY MEETING BEFORE THEN OR REVISED FEBRUARY I GROCERY STORE.
JOHN, WAS THAT WHAT THAT IS WHAT YOU SENT ME YESTERDAY.
THAT'S, IS IT CHANGING FROM THAT? IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT IT SHOULD STAY JUST LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD ADD IS SOME, I'M GONNA TALK TO THE ENGINEER ABOUT FOUNDATION AND
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WHERE ARE YOU FROM? DRAINFIELD GREEN TILE.JUST MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S OKAY AND THEN WE GET THE SURVEY BACK OVER THERE TO GET ELEVATIONS ON THAT.
AND THEN THAT'S ALL, WE'VE BEEN PROJECT FOR TWO YEARS.
I THINK WE SHOULD GET THAT TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT MEETING AT IT RATHER THAN TRY RUSH TONIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THE INTERIOR, THE HAS THIS, YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL SIGN IN THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE? WE DON'T HAVE OLD OWNER BUSINESS GOING.