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[Special Planning and Zoning Commission on November 30, 2022.]
GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.TONIGHT IS A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE FRONT ROYAL PLANNING COMMISSION, NOVEMBER 30TH, UH, 2022.
MS. POTTER, IF YOU COULD, UH, GIVE US A ROLE.
AND COMMISSIONER MARSH IS ABSENT.
UM, IS THERE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL? UM, THERE IS NO, LIKE SUPER MAJORITY VOTE FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION CORRECT.
WHERE I THAT IF ONLY THREE ARE PRESENT, ALL THREE HAVE TO AGREE.
WE WON'T, THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT.
TONIGHT'S, UH, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REZONING OF A 6.2 ACRE PARCEL, UH, LOCATED ON WEST MAIN UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF RANDOLPH MACON ACADEMY.
UM, JUST GO OVER REAL QUICKLY, THE PROCEDURE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL, UH, FIRST HEAR FROM STAFF ON THIS, UH, MATTER REGARDING THE STAFF REPORT THEY PREPARED.
UH, WE WILL THEN ASK THE APPLICANT OR THEIR AGENT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION, OR THEY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT FOR A SHORT PERIOD.
THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY PERSON WISHING TO COMMENT ON THE APPLICATION, UH, MAY THEN SPEAK.
WE ASK THAT ANYBODY SPEAKING, UH, TO PUBLIC AIR TONIGHT TO ADDRESS THEIR COMMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THIS IS NOT A CROSS EXAMINATION OF THE APPLICANT, UM, BUT WE WANT DO WANT TO HEAR YOUR INPUT AS TO WHETHER THIS, UH, REZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
SO, WITH THAT IN MIND, IF STAFF WILL, UH, BRIEF US ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, THE APPLICATION FOR REVIEW IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT OF THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECLASSIFY A PORTION OF TAX MAP 28 5 14 4.
FROM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R THREE WITH IDENTIFIED PROPERTY IS AN UNDEVELOPED 6.2539, A PROPORTION OF A PARCEL LOCATED ADJACENT TO WEST MAIN STREET AND NORTH OF SOUTH SHENDO AVENUE, GARRISON STREET AND VISCO AVENUE.
THE ORDINANCE IDENTIFIES R ONE DISTRICT AS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH THE R THREE DISTRICT BEING A MEDIUM TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE REZONING REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF FACULTY AND STUDENT HOUSING AND NO PROPERS WERE MADE BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE.
THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE AND PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
AND ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS THE, UM, SIX ACRE TRACKED IN QUESTION LOCATED OFF OF WEST MAIN.
UM, AND DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE BALL FIELDS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE GREENFIELD, WHATEVER THEY REFER TO.
AND THAT, AND THIS SKETCH SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE, UH, WHERE WE CALLING FACULTY HOUSING? YES.
STUDENT, STUDENT FACULTY HOUSING? YES.
UH, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION STAFF AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, MR. BROGAN EVENING CHAIRMAN, MERCHANT MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS, MY NAME'S JOE BROGAN.
UM, OUR OFFICE, BERGEN LAND SURVEY PREPARED THIS PLAN ON BEHALF OF THE TRUSTEES OF RANDOLPH MACON ACADEMY.
UH, THEY ASKED US TO PREPARE A, UM, A PLA FOR REZONING OF A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT, UM, FACULTY AND STUDENT HOUSING.
UM, ONE CLARIFICATION WHERE I'M, WE'RE NOTING IT AS A TOWNHOUSE, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE APPLIED FOR THROUGH THE TOWNHOUSE ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN.
IT'S JUST THE TYPE OF, OF STRUCTURE, UH, WHERE, UM, EACH UNIT IS SEPARATED BY A PARTY WALL AND EACH UNIT WILL HAVE ITS OWN SEPARATE INGRESS EGRESS FROM THE OUTSIDE.
IT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST THE STYLE OF THE UNIT.
UM, RANDOLPH MACON WOULD LIKE TO ACCESS THIS, THIS, UH, SIX UNIT, UM,
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HOUSING, HOUSING UNIT, UH, THROUGH THE EXISTING CAMPUS.SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW ACCESS, UH, FROM MAIN STREET OR ANY OTHER ENTRANCE.
THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS IT VIA ACADEMY DRIVE AND KENDRICK LANE.
AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THAT.
MS. ROBERT? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, SO THIS IS GONNA BE FOR FACULTY OR STUDENT HOUSING, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE LIKE, RENT IT TO THE PUBLIC OR SOLD AS INDIVIDUAL TOWN AS YOU JUST SAID, IS NOT A TOWNHOUSE.
THEY, THEY WON'T, WON'T BE, UH, SUBDIVIDED INTO SEPARATE UNITS.
THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A TOWNHOUSE STYLE, UM, HOUSING UNIT.
SO, SO BASICALLY IT'S GONNA BE A USE FOR THE SCHOOL.
I MEAN, IT IS A USE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO, I THINK OUR, OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES 1 75, 1 12 IS THE TOWNHOUSE.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE TO, TO THIS.
I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION WHEN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GET BACK TO STAFF.
SO, SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE PUBLIC UNITS.
IT'S GONNA BE COMPLETELY USED FOR PURPOSES OF THE SCHOOL? YES.
THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE AUXILIARY USED TO SITE THEIR OTHER, UM, THEY HAVE ONSITE, UM, FACULTY HOUSING, UM, EXISTING AND THEY HAVE ON AND OFFSITE, THEY HAVE SOME ACTUAL TOWNHOUSE UNITS OFFSITE ON BILL AVENUE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A, UH, ON CAMPUS OF ALL THAT USE.
AND I BELIEVE TO THE EAST OF THIS, THERE'S MULTIPLE, UH, FACULTY HOUSING IN THE FORM OF EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR SOME MULTI-FAMILY HOUSES IT LOOKS LIKE, OR, OR, YES.
THEY, YEAH, THAT, BECAUSE THIS CAMPUS HAS BEEN HERE FOR, I THINK FOR OVER 130 YEARS I BELIEVE.
SO THEY'VE BUILT ONSITE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING UNITS AND DORM TOUR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE, UM, EXPANDING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BRO? WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WISH.
JUST TO CONFIRM, THE ONLY ACCESS TO AND FROM THE TOWNHOUSES WOULD BE THROUGH THE CAMPUS? YES.
THAT'S, THEY DON'T, I THINK FOR SECURITY REASONS, THEY DON'T WANT ANY NEW, YOU KNOW, EXTRA ENTRANCES.
THE WAY THEY, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN THROUGH ACADEMY DRIVE OR PARKING ALSO WOULD BE ON CAMPUS ONLY.
YEAH, THAT WAS THE SAME QUESTION I HAD MR. CHAIRMAN.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, DO WE HAVE A, YOU, YOU CAN NOW SPEAK WELL, MS. TAMMY SHELL, UM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND AT THE PODIUM AND ADDRESS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE, THE, UH, VERBAL RECORD.
UM, MY NAME IS TAMMY SHELL AND I LIVE AT FOUR 14 WEST MAIN STREET, WHICH WHICH IS DOWN FROM THE PROPOSED.
AND PART OF THIS IS PART OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.
BY LOOKING AT THE PLOT AND FOR MR. BROGAN'S COMMENTS THAT HE MADE.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M ALLOWED TO ASK AT THIS TIME CUZ IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, IT'S ABOUT THE RE-ZONING.
SO, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PROBABLY REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S, UH, USED TO GET WITH OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR.
THAT'S MAINLY WHAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
JUST BRIEFLY, JUST EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
WHAT, WELL, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, FACULTY, STUDENT HOUSING.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STUDENTS BEING HOUSED THERE.
AND WHAT THAT MAY, HOW THAT MAY CONCERN US ON MAIN STREET WITH MM-HMM.
UM, I WORKED AT RMA FOR OVER 16 YEARS.
I, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, BUT, UM, I DID WORK THERE AND, UM, I LIKE RMA, YOU KNOW, I, SO I DON'T, I SEE THE NEED.
I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE UP THERE.
AND I DO SEE THE NEED AND THIS DOESN'T POSE AS MUCH AN ISSUE FOR ME AS IF IT WERE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE
SO THIS IS, UM, THEY'RE GONNA REZONE, THIS IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR ME PROBABLY.
SO, SO YOUR CONCERN IS YOU JUST HEAR, WELL, I HAVE THAT CONCERN.
AND I HAVE, I MEAN, I HAVE A FEW OTHER CONCERNS.
CONSTRUCTION CONCERNS ME WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION, HOW THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE WILL BE ACCESSING
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THIS.AND TIMES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, AND I'M, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHEN ALL THIS WAS GONNA BEGIN.
UM, I HAVE A, I HAVE A TERMINALLY ILL GRANDSON WHO CANNOT WHO COMES TO VISIT ME.
BUT HE IS, HE WILL BE COMING TO VISIT ME PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE NEXT YEAR.
HE'LL, IT'LL BE IN THE NEXT YEAR.
AND WHEN THERE'S CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA, HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR, HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE NEAR ANY CONSTRUCTION OF ANY TYPE CUZ OF HIS LUNG.
AND HE'S BEEN THROUGH A BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT AND A LIVER TRANSPLANT AND NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE LUNGS.
SO I'M CONCERNED AS TO TIMING AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I STILL JUST WANTED TO GET THE INFORMATION SO I WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE OTHER PLANS.
THE, THE PROCESS AFTER THIS, OF COURSE THEY WILL HAVE TO FILE FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND OTHER, OTHER, UH, POSSIBLE, UH, CONDITION USE OR SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENTS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BASICALLY THE DIRECTOR, IF YOU WORK WITH, UH, LONGKI, SHE'LL GIVE YOU A CARD AND THEN SHE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
YOU, UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, I MEAN I WOULD, I'M READING A LOT OF THIS AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED BY THIS PAPER THAT MR. BURG GRACIOUSLY GAVE ME.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYONE ELSE PROCEEDING? NONE.
WELL CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? JOSH, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT THE LADY SAID, I MEAN, ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION ACCIDENT, I MEAN, BUT JOE, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY GUESS IS, MA'AM, JUST COMING A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK CONSTRUCTION BACKGROUND MYSELF, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR JOE, BUT IF JOE KNOWS RIGHT.
DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA BE USING THIS FOR ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR, FOR THAT PROPOSED ROAD? OH, THAT EXISTING GATE.
I, THEY'RE GONNA BE, IS A CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, I I'M JUST ASKING A PERIPHERAL.
I KNOW IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, BUT IF THERE'S, IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING OFF YOUR HEAD ABOUT IT, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY, UM, PLANS TO, TO ACCESS OFF OF MAIN STREET FOR CONSTRUCTION.
I DO KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME UTILITY TOWN UTILITY EXTENSIONS FROM WEST MAIN.
UM, SO THERE THERE'LL BE SOME CONSTRUCTION YEAH.
LIKE I SAID, I, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM, MY GUESS WOULD BE THERE MAY BE DOWN THE ROAD SOME PERIPHERAL IN, YOU KNOW, WORK DONE THERE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FOR SLOPE REPAIR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EVERY THAT'S GOTTA BE DONE OR SOMETHING OR YEAH.
THEY'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE GRADING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH THAT'LL PROBABLY COME LATER.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WAS REALLY ASKING.
SO I WAS JUST, I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE MAN.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR THANK YOU.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO END IT UP.
UH, LAUREN, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, SO IT APPEARS THAT THESE ARE NOT TOWNHOUSE MM-HMM.
FACULTY HOUSING IS THAT PERMITTED? AND THE R THREE ZONE, IT WOULD BE PERMITTED AS A, AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE SCHOOL.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THIS IS A SEPARATE LOT.
AND YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ACCESSORY USE WITHOUT THE PRIMARY USE.
SO UNLESS THEY CONSOLIDATE ALL THE BOUNDARIES, THERE'S NO WAY TO JUST PERMIT THAT OTHER THAN, BUT IF THEY WERE TO DO A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT WITH THIS LOT AND THE ADJACENT THE SCHOOL LOT, THEN THEY COULD DO IT JUST WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE IT, IN ORDER TO BUILD A SIX UNIT ON THERE, WOULD THEY HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? IT STILL HAS TO COMPLY ONE THREE WITH 1 75 12.
RIGHT? NO, NOT IN THE R CREEK, THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE.
UM, I MEAN, TOWN HOMES ARE PERMITTED, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN ACCESSORY.
ONE OVER ONE ACRE WOULD FIRE SPECIAL USE.
SO IF WERE TO BE, OF COURSE THE REZONING ITSELF, I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH, UH, BEING EVERYTHING IS R ONE AROUND IT.
IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO SPOT ZONING IN MY OPINION, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO, IT, IT COULD HAPPEN.
BUT, BUT THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE, THE RMA SCHOOL IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE R ONE ZONE.
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IN THE R ONE ZONE.THE USE BEING THE SCHOOL, IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL USE, IT'S A SCHOOL USE MM-HMM.
SO IF, SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO REZONE IT IF THEY WERE TO BOUNDARY ADJUST THIS SIX ACRE PARCEL WITH THE ADJACENT, BECAUSE NOW THAT STRUCTURE BECOMES AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WHICH IS PERMITTED IN THE R ONE ZONE.
UM, BUT I'M AFRAID IF WE REZONE IT TO R THREE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT CURB AND GUTTER STREETS, EVEN IF THEY'RE GONNA USE THE, THE INTERIOR ACCESS, WHICH IS, I WOULD PREFER THAT CUZ I DON'T WANNA SEE ANY MORE ACCESS OFF OF THIS SECTION OF MAINE.
BUT, UM, BUT IF WE ARE, IF IT IS, IF IT'S A STANDALONE SEPARATE LOT THAN IT'S GONNA, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME IT'S GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY WITH 1 75, 1 12, WHICH AGAIN REQUIRES THE SAME THINGS BASICALLY FOR A TOWNHOUSE.
CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TWO LEVELS OF, OF, UH, OF, OF LIVING SPACE IN AN APARTMENT.
YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE IT ON ONE FLOOR.
SO WHETHER WE CALL IT FACULTY HOUSING OR NOT, IF THIS IS REZONED AND THIS IS A SEPARATE PARCEL, THE PRIMARY USE WOULD BE, UM, BASICALLY A TOWNHOUSE.
UH, NOW WE DO HAVE AN ENCROACHMENT UP AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING UP THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT BUILDING IS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE RMA UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE, UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THEIR DORMITORIES OR WHETHER THAT'S A, A, UH, LABORATORY FOR, UH, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE MYSELF.
I IT MIGHT BE THE GYMNASIUM OR, OR, OR A CLASSROOM.
BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS ENCROACHING ON THIS LOT.
UM, JUST, JUST AS MR. BROGAN WILL TELL YOU THE HISTORY OF THIS THING, RMA AS THEY GREW OVER THE YEARS, KEPT ACQUIRING PARCELS, UH, AND EXPANDED WITHOUT ANY BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS.
SO MOST OF THE BUILDINGS OUT THERE, PROPERTY LINES GO THROUGH THEM AT SOME POINT.
UM, HAVE, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF A, OF A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT WITH, UH, WITH, WITH RMA? I DID, UH, THROUGH THE, THE, UH, BUILDING CONTRACTOR AND UH, HE EXPRESSED THAT IT WAS THERE PREFERENCE NOT TO CONSOLIDATE PARCELS AT THIS TIME.
UH, SO CAN THEY DO THIS IF THIS IS ZONED R THREE? I BELIEVE THEY CAN, YEAH.
WE WOULD USE IT IF THEY'RE DOING A TOWNHOUSE STYLE, UH, WHEN SITES OVER ONE ACRE, WE WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND, UH, I WOULD, WE WOULD ACCEPT SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH A CONCEPTIONAL PLAN ON FULL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR EACH BLOCK OF TOWNHOUSE IF YOU WOULD CALL THE TOWNHOUSE STYLE AS A DEVELOPER.
UH, THE ISSUE I WOULD SEE WITH, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE LEAVING IT A SEPARATE PARCEL WOULD BE, UH, LEGAL ACCESS TO THAT PARCEL.
EVEN THOUGH THEY DO OWN THE PROPERTY, UH, BELIEVE WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A ACCESS EASEMENT FROM THE STATE OR TOWN STREET TO THAT PARCEL THROUGH THEIR CAMPUS.
CAUSE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS OF PROPERTY, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, TAX IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS ON THAT.
EVEN THOUGH THEY OWN THOSE PARCELS, THAT WOULD SOMETHING THEY'D NEED TO CONSIDER HOW THEY WOULD'VE TO HAVE GRANT LEGAL AS ACCESS TO THAT PARCEL.
AND, AND, AND, AND THE BASIS IS IF, IF IT IS GONNA BE A STANDALONE LOT, THEN, THEN WE HAVE TO REALLY BE PREPARED FOR A FUTURE SUBDIVISION OF IT INTO INDIVIDUAL LINES.
EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ON SELLING INDIVIDUAL LOT.
THIS STRUCTURE STILL HAS TO BE IN A POSITION TO MEET THAT EITHER THROUGH A PRIVATE STREET, UH, AND, AND SIMPLY LABELING IT AS PRIVATE DOESN'T MAKE IT PRIVATE.
THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THAT ALL THE WAY TO WHERE PUBLIC ACCESS IS GRANTED TO GET TO THE BUILDING.
IN FRONT OF THE TOWNHOUSES FROM THE PAV AREA WITH WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, A PRIVATE STREET ON THAT PORTION AND BUILT TO TOWN STANDARDS AS A PRIVATE STREET.
IF THEY SO DESIRE IT WOULD NOT BE A PUBLIC STREET.
IT LOOKS LIKE, TO ME THE, THE QUICKEST WAY TO DO THIS IS TO A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT AND APPROVE IT UNDER THE R ONE ZONE AS A, UH, CONDITION USE.
CAUSE ONCE IT GOES RS THREE, IT'S NO LONGER OR, OR ACCESSORY USE.
UH, BECAUSE NOW IT'S, IT'S ITS OWN BUILDING ON ITS OWN
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SEPARATE LOT.SO, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S PART OF THE, THE, THE BIGGER LOT PART OF OR HAS A PRIMARY USE OF THE SCHOOL ON IT, THEN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT, PUT IT WHEREVER THEY WANT, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE SETBACKS ON THE PERIMETER AND THE ACCESS IS COMPLETELY UP TO THEM BECAUSE, UM, UH, OTHERWISE IF WE DO REZONE IT, THEN IT'S GONNA HAVE TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, ACCESS REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS.
AND ALSO PART OF THE REZONING WE NORMALLY LOOK AT RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES, UH, AND CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALK ALONG IN THIS CASE, WEST MAIN, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY'RE GONNA ACCESS IT, THE LEGAL, UH, FRONTAGE ON THIS LOT IS WEST MAIN.
SO DO, DO THEY HAVE TO PUT CURB AND GUTTER ALONG WEST MAIN? IF, IF THIS IS ITS OWN STANDALONE LOT, OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT'S THAT? OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND CARBON GUTTER.
YOU COULDN'T TALK RMA INTO JUST DOING A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT OF THIS SIX ACRE PIECE WITH THE ADJACENT.
UM, WELL THIS WAS THE KIND OF THE PATH I THINK WE CAME UP WITH OKAY.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WELL UNDERSTAND.
BUT AT THAT TIME I THINK IT, WE WERE TOLD IT WAS GONNA BE TOWNHOUSES WHEN OUR, IN OUR ORIGINAL CONCEPT.
BUT I MEAN, CLEARLY THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE TOWNHOUSES PER SE IN THE PUBLIC USE.
UH, THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PARCELS IS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ONLY REASON YOU CREATE A TOWNHOUSE UNIT FOR OUR STANDARDS IS TO RUN A PROMPTING LINE IN THE PARTY WALL.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR DEFINITION.
WE, WE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A, UM, A CAMPUS ZONE, WHICH I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US DEVELOP IN THE, MAYBE THE NEW ORDINANCE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE NEW ORDINANCE WE, CAUSE IN THE COMP PLAN, THIS IS CALLED OUT AS INSTITUTIONAL.
WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM, AS LONG AS IT'S ON THE SAME PARCEL AS THE MAIN USE THEY CAN HAVE ACCESSORY USES, SUCH AS AS THIS HOUSING WITHOUT HAVING TO REZONE, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO A SPECIAL USE.
CAUSE YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, AND HAVE ALL THESE QUESTION ANSWERED IN OUR, IN OUR ORDINANCE.
EVEN IF YOU, EVEN IF YOU DON'T CALL IT A TOWNHOUSE OR CREATE TOWNHOUSE PROPERTY LINES, IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE TO MEET THAT CRITERIA.
AS FAR AS CURB AND GUTTER ACCESS AND, AND SO FORTH.
AND THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS IN THE FUTURE FOR RMA TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THIS CAMPUS.
BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTED INTO ONE PARCEL ZONE IT INTO THE INSTITUTIONAL ZONE.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE TOO.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE INITIALLY DISCUSSED THE PROJECT, WE, I THINK WE PULLED THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PREVIOUS, IT WAS A DORMITORY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR SOMETHING.
THERE'S UM, UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS FROM 1990.
SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THAT WASN'T REZONED.
AND ACTUALLY BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WAS CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE SCHOOL.
THE ONLY CAVEAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT AN ACCESSORY USE HAS TO BE ON THE SAME LOT AS THE PRIMARY USE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ACCESSORY USE BY ITSELF ON A SEPARATE BLOCK.
AND I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE FOUND WASN'T THE CASE BECAUSE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DID YEARS AGO, BUT NOW WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
BUT
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT TRANSPIRED BACK THEN.
DOES THAT ENCROACHMENT OF THAT BUILDING IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER, DOES THAT, WOULD THAT ALLOW THIS LOT TO BE CONSIDERED THAT ENCROACHMENT TO BE THE PRIMARY USE? OKAY.
AND THAT THIS IS IN THE ACCESSORY TO THAT PRIMARY.
WHAT'S THAT? I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE.
FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW SOME OTHER SAID SOMETHING OVER HERE.
NO, I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN IF THAT BUILDING IS ENCROACHING, BUT, UH, IN THAT CASE, IF THAT'S THE CASE THOUGH, THEN EVERY OTHER BUILDING WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, HAD A MEETING LAST, LAST MONTH ABOUT A PROPERTY LINE ADJUSTMENT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THOSE ALREADY IN TOWN THAT ARE NON-CONFORMING.
SO, WELL, I I'M JUST TRYING TO CREATE A PRESIDENT HERE FOR RMA TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT AS A SCHOOL.
AND TO REZONE THIS AND HAVE IT SEPARATE FROM THE REST OF THE
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LAND, TO ME KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.CAUSE THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO DEVELOP TOWNHOUSES FOR SALE TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT AT THE TIME THAT WE STAFF MET WITH THE APPLICANT, UHHUH, IT WAS STATED THAT RMA WASN'T INTERESTED IN DOING THE BOUNDARIES.
SO THIS WAS THE COURSE OF ACTION.
I'M JUST TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM OTHERWISE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, NOT BEING TOWNHOUSES, UM, CAN WE DO THIS? WHAT, WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED THERE.
I MEAN, THERE IS NO PUBLIC ACCESS THAT MEETS THE TOWN REQUIREMENT AS FAR AS ACCESS TO THE UNITS AND TO THE STREET, UH, CURB AND GUTTER ALONG WEST MAIN.
I MEAN IF, IF IT STAYS PART OF RMA AND THE R ONE NO REZONING, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ACCESSORY ACCESSORY USE GIVES THEM WHAT THEY WANT.
UH, THIS IS NO WILL NO LONGER BE AN ACCESSORY USE IF THEY REZONE IT.
YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT THEY, THAT THEY LOSE A LOT OF RIGHTS IF THEY REZONE IT.
CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY CAN, THEY CAN SOMEHOW TRY TO FIGURE OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW TO KEEP IT AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SINCE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY IS CALLING IT.
EXCEPT, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, ACCESSORY USES AREN'T PERMITTED ON A, ON A SEPARATE LOT IN, IN ANY ZONE.
SO IT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT.
IT'S GONNA BE A PRIMARY STRUCTURE UNLESS THEY VACATE THAT PROPERTY LINE.
WELL CHAIRMAN, I SAID YOU DO BRING UP A GOOD POINT THOUGH ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS BUILDING ENCROACHMENT THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT BUILDING ENCROACHMENT OBVIOUSLY IS CLEARLY MORE ON THE OTHER OTHER LOT, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT DO WE TIE BUT IT IS THERE A LITTLE BIT THERE.
SO THERE'S A PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON, SO THERE'S A PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON VERY LITTLE.
BUT AGAIN, DO WE DO, IS THAT, DO WE USE THAT AS A, AS A, AS A FACTOR FOR MAKING A DECISION THAT WOULD BE UP TO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I JUST LOOK AT THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE YOU SAID, IF THE STAYS ARE RO ONE AND IT'S JUST A ACCESSORY USE, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER COUNCIL WOULDN'T HAVE A HAVE ANY REVIEW AUTHORITY OVER.
IF IT'S JUST AN ACCESSORY USE, YOU DETERMINE WHAT MAKES THE ACCESSORY USE APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE TO ASK SOME LANGUAGE LIKE THERE'D BE NO ACCESS OFF OF WEST MAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE FACILITIES.
AND IF THEY WERE EVER TO BE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBDIVIDED.
BUT, UM, BUT I, I'M AFRAID REZONING IT MAY NOT GET RMA WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AT THIS POINT.
CAUSE AGAIN, ORIGINALLY WHEN I WAS TOLD THIS, I THOUGHT THE TOWNHOUSES WERE GONNA BE PARALLEL WITH WEST MAIN FRONTING ON WEST MAIN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHEAPEST WAY FOR THEM TO GET THROUGH IT, I THINK WOULD BE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO EXCESSIVE USE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT WHAT WE HAD BEFORE US RIGHT NOW, IT JUST, IS THIS REZONING APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR THIS SITE WITH NO, CAUSE AGAIN, IF WE REZONE IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA PUT DUPLEX LOTS OUT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE REZONE IT THEN THAT THEY CAN, BUT IF WE KEEP IT R ONE THEN ALL THEY CAN ADD ON IS FOR ACCESSORY USES FOR THE SCHOOL.
WELL THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE, THE, UM, ESPECIALLY USEFUL TO BE APPLIED FOR.
SO THERE'S ALREADY BE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, ANOTHER LAYER OF PERMITTING.
I MEAN, IF IT IS REZONED, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD ACCORDING ORDINANCE OF, OF R THREE.
AND I AGREE WITH WHAT DARRELL'S SAYING.
I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE, IT COULD BE QUITE, IT COULD BE QUITE A BIT OF A COST, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY HAVE, IF THERE IS CURB, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
I MEAN MR. BRON HERE SAID HE'S ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS WITH HIM AND WE'VE GOT A LETTER RIGHT HERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM RMA.
CUZ THAT WAS MY CONCERN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT ANSWER, I JUST R MAY
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NOTE THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF BY DOING A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT.BUT THIS LETTER RIGHT HERE CLEARLY SAYS THAT HEY, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR IT TO BE R THREE.
I'M, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO GO WITH THE R THREE.
YOU KNOW, THEY, I MEAN THEY CONTINUE TO NEED HOUSING ON SITE FOR STAFF AND FACULTY.
IF THEY, I MEAN IT'S THEIR PROPERTY IF THEY NEED TO USE THIS LOT FOR IT, THE R THREE ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE IT IN A MORE CLUSTERED, I GUESS HIGHER DENSITY SO THAT YOU'RE NOT TAKING THAT AND BUILDING OUT, YOU KNOW, 20 SINGLE WELL, UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEY DO 1 75, 1 12 MM-HMM.
SO, AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE APPLICANTS, I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE APPLICANTS KNEW THAT THAT LITTLE SLIVER OF THAT BUILDING WAS ON PARCEL.
JOE, DID THEY KNOW? NO, WE, IT WAS QUITE A TEST TO FIGURE THE MEETS AND BOUNDS OF THAT PARCEL.
THIS PART, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE, THEY DON'T SHOW THIS PARCEL TAX MAP IS CORRECT.
IT'S JUST INCLUDED WITH, WITH ANOTHER PARCEL.
AND SO WHEN WE MAPPED OUT THIS WAY FORWARD YEAH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS AND WE WERE LOOKING AT GIS THAT SHOWED A 15 ACRE CHUNK.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS ANOTHER, THERE IS A, THERE'S A, UH, FACULTY HOUSING UNIT ON THAT SMALL PARCEL TO THE EAST WHERE THE L TWO L THREE.
THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THERE, RIGHT? YES.
UM, WOULD, WOULD THAT HELP JUST TO CONSOLIDATE THAT PARCEL WITH THE SIX ACRES TO TO, SINCE THAT'S, OR IS THAT ALREADY JUST CONSIDERED A SINGLE FAMILY A LOT? I, IT, IT, IT REALLY IS GONNA HAVE A PRIMARY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SINGLE FAMILY IS STILL AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE SCHOOL.
AND I THINK THAT BUILDING UP THERE WOULD QUALIFY FOR PRIMARY USE, I WOULD BELIEVE.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE, THE SCHOOL ITSELF IS ON FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PARCELS.
AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THAT GO THROUGH, RUN THROUGH THE BUILDING.
SO MERELY ATTACHING THIS ONE WITH THE ADJACENT ONE STILL DOESN'T CONSOLIDATE THE WHOLE SCHOOL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO ASK THEM THAT, BUT I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST THEY COULD COMBINE THIS LOT WITH THE ADJACENT ONE, WHICH I THINK IS A FIVE OR SIX ACRE LOT TO THE NORTH OF IT.
UM, AND I KNOW PART OF THE, UM, THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE, ARE AT LEAST ON THERE.
THERE'S ENOUGH OF THEM TO, TO ME IN MY OPINION, QUALIFY AS PRIMARY USE ON THIS LOT, NEGATING THIS AS, AS, UH, A A, UH, WE ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT INTO AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO DO.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY THEY CAN'T DO IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN BUILD IT AS AN ACCESSORY.
AND, AND THE BEST WAY IS TO KEEP IT R ONE AND COMBINE IT WITH THE ADJOINING LINE.
AND THAT'S ALSO THE GOAL OF RMA IS TO, YOU KNOW, THE LEAST PATH, THE LEAST RESISTANCE.
WELL WE COULD TABLE THIS ACTION TONIGHT TO, TO GET BACK WITH RMA AND GET WITH LAUREN AND SEE IF, IF A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT COULD, COULD BE THE QUICKEST WAY TO DO IT.
I MEAN, CUZ AGAIN, IF, IF THAT IS CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY USE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE SCHOOL, THEN THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE AND YOU CAN APPROVE.
YOU KNOW, THEN ALL YOU NEED IS, IS A PROPOSED HOUSE LOCATION TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE UTILITIES, WATER AND SEWER.
AND IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON WEST MAIN, BUT IF WE REZONE IT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HANDLE THE CURB AND GUTTER, YOU KNOW, ALONG WEST MAIN, UH, I, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD POSSIBLY NEED IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST TAKING A LITTLE BREAK AND SEE IF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE WITH YOUR CLIENT.
AND, AND UH, CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF WE REZONE IT NOW OR IF WE APPROVE IT TONIGHT OR MOVING ON, WHETHER WE APPROVE IT OR NOT, IT GOES TO COUNCIL FOR, UH, FINAL, ALL WE DO IS RECOMMEND, UH, COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY.
AND THEN IF IT NEEDS A SPECIAL USE, IT'S GOTTA COME BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION ON OUR SPECIAL USE AND BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO TO ME, THE QUICKEST WAY, AND LAUREN STOP ME IF I'M WRONG, WOULD BE JUST TO DECLARE IT A, UM, YOU KNOW, ACCESSORY USE, UH, WITH, WITH A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT AT LEAST TO THE NORTH PARCEL.
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I WOULDN'T MAKE 'EM ADJUST THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT AT LEAST ENOUGH TO WHERE WE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS NOT A STANDALONE SITUATION.HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM.
I MEAN, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE OR YOU THINK OR MAYBE FINE WITH THAT JOE OR, OR, UM, YEAH, I THINK YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, UNDER SAYING, YOU KNOW THAT WITH THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, STRUGGLE WITH, WITH THE PRIVATE STREET.
UM, AND, AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENED INITIALLY, THE TERM TOWNHOUSE WAS USED BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE TOWNHOUSES MM-HMM.
BUT WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE SET OF REGULATIONS FOR TOWNHOUSES AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OTHER THAN THE USE OF THEM HAS TO BE, UH, BE ABLE TO BE ASSOCIATIVE WITH THE PRIMARY USE.
SO, UH, THAT, AND AGAIN, I THINK THE WORD TOWNHOUSE WAS THROWING EVERYBODY OFF IN THE BEGINNING.
AND NOW THAT WE'VE DETERMINED THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A TOWNHOUSE, BUT HOUSING FOR FACULTY, UH, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT, THAT MAY WORK AND THEN, THEN THEY CAN PUT WHATEVER ACCESS THEY WANT TO, TO IT AND MERELY USE THAT WEST MAIN.
I I DO THINK THEY USE THAT WEST MAIN FOR WHEN THEY HAVE FOOTBALL GAMES AND, AND EVENTS ON THEIR PARADE, GROUND GRADUATION AND SO FORTH.
I KNOW THEY PARK 'EM ALL OVER THE PLACE THERE, USE THAT, BUT IT'S NORMALLY LOCKED MOST OF THE TIME.
SO, BUT, UH, BUT I WOULD, UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPENS.
SO, SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I PRESS ASK YOU A QUESTION? NO.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT TO THE NORTH YES.
HOW WOULD YOU ENVISION THAT BEING? WOULD YOU MOVE THE BOUNDARY UP TO THE NORTH SO THAT IT WOULD CLOSE? NO, YOU WOULD JUST VACATE THAT COMMON LINE ALSO BECOME ONE BIG LOT THEN? YES.
OH MY, YOU WOULD JUST VACATE FROM HERE TO HERE.
BASICALLY VACATE THIS PROPERTY LINE, THAT COMMON PROMPTING LINE, AND THEN THE TWO PARCELS WOULD BE ONE.
AND I'M SURE YOU'VE DONE ENOUGH FIELD WORK TO ACCOMPLISH THAT TASK.
THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A, I THINK IT'S A SIX ACRE PARCEL THAT'S INCLUDED TAX WITH THE 34 ACRE.
PARCEL THAT, BUT IT IS, ITS ITS OWN STANDALONE.
I HAVE A SEPARATE MEANS AND BALANCE OF S DESCRIPTION, BUT, BUT, BUT WE HAVE TO GET AT LEAST SOME PART OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE ON THE SAME LINE SO IT CAN RIGHT.
LEGALLY BE CONSIDERED AN, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
SO IF WE, YOU OUR HONEST TO MAYBE TABLE THIS FOR OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING, WE CAN GET MORE AND YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR PEOPLE AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PURSUE IT FURTHER AND GO WITH THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT, THEN THAT SHOULDN'T TAKE VERY LONG AT ALL.
CAUSE ALL THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, I THINK.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TABLE IT AND, AND TAKE ANOTHER, CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KILL IT NOW.
ALL THE OPTIONS SEND A BAD MESSAGE TO COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH JOSH IS GONNA BE SITTING IN THE OTHER SEAT COME JANUARY.
IT'S NOT A NO, I THINK IT'S JUST A BETTER SOLUTION.
AND CAN ANYTHING GOOD POINT POST AND NOT POSTPONE TO THE NEXT POSTPONE? I DON'T WANNA SAY SO WHO, IF ONE OF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO POST YOUR FRAUD WITH YES.
I MEAN, I'M, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, THIS MAY WORK OUT TO BE A LESS, YOU KNOW, WILL IT BE LESS, I THINK IT WOULD BE LESS EFFORT FOR, FOR FOR THEM AS WELL.
I MEAN WE, WE STILL MAINTAIN THAT R ONE FLAVOR MM-HMM.
LIKE DAR IF WE, IF WE APPROVE IT, THEN WE GOTTA GO TO A SPECIAL USE AND THEN I DON'T WANT HAVE TO, I CAN'T, I CAN'T CONTROL DARRY AFTER JANUARY.
SO, WELL ACTUALLY I CAN, BUT
BUT YOU GOTTA DO YOUR SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THIS WOULD ELIMINATE YOUR SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
MOST OF YOUR, IF YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT.
YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, THINK THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE IS THE, IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR RMA.
SO I THINK, I THINK THIS, YOU KNOW, BE A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE OPTIONS.
SO WE'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION.
MR. COMMISSIONER, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION POSTPONE.
UH, PUT ON THIS MOTION POSTPONE.
ON THIS MOTION UNTIL THE DECEMBER 21ST MEETING, MEETING.
YOU HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS REZONING APPLICATION
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UNTIL THE 21ST.WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MS. POTTER, IF YOU COULD, UH, KINDLY GIVE US A ROLL CALL.
SO THE POSTPONEMENT IS APPROVED.
WE WILL TAKE THIS UP AT OUR DECEMBER 21ST, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE 10,000 ITEMS ON.
BRING YOUR, BRING YOUR EARLY LUNCH BACK.
SO ANY OTHER BUSINESS NEEDS WILL COME BEFORE THIS, BONNIE? WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY, UH, JUST AS YOU JUST MENTIONED MOMENTS AGO MM-HMM.
AND OF COURSE, TAKING OFFICE WITH THE GENERAL COUNCIL.
BUT WE'LL MISS YOU, MY FRIEND.
SO THIS IS MY VERBAL ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT I WILL OF COURSE SUBMIT A, A FORMAL ROOM.
BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK ANYTIME
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE MEETING? SITTING I THE SAME, AYE, RIGHT, RIGHT.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED, HEARING NONE.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7 41.
AND THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND, UH, AND, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS HOW WE WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD A.