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RIGHT.I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER THIS
[Planning and Zoning Commission on November 16, 2022.]
NOVEMBER 16TH, 7:00 PM OF THE FRONT ROW PLANNING COMMISSION.UH, OUR MEETING SITE IS 1 0 2 EAST MAIN STREET AT THE TOWN HALL.
MS. POTTER, COULD YOU GIVE US A ROLL CALL FOR DETERMINATION OF QUM CHAIRMAN MERCHANT HERE.
DID HE HAVE COMMISSIONER INGRAM? HERE, LET THE RECORD SHOW WE'RE ALL HERE AND WE DO HAVE A QUO.
OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS ELECTION, UH, OF OUR VICE CHAIRMAN.
AS, UH, YOU ALL KNOW, MR. WILL GORDON, UH, MOVED HIS RESIDENCE TO THE COUNTY.
SO HE RESIGNED FROM OUR BOARD, AND HE WAS OUR VICE CHAIR.
SO AT THIS TIME, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS, UH, ON A VICE CHAIRMAN.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, THIS IS CONNIE MARSH AS VICE CHAIR.
WELL, FIRST, ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NONE? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO NOMINATE, UM, CONNIE MARNER AS VICE CHAIR.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTIONS? WELL, I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.
NO, IT'S TOO, YOU DON'T, THERE'S NO CHANCE TO GET OUTTA IT.
YOU ARE IT ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, CONNIE MARNER AS VICE CHAIR SIGNIFY THE SAYING HI.
I, I ALL THOSE OPPOSED I ACCUSED MYSELF.
YOU, YOU CAN IF YOU WISH, BUT IT'S GOOD TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF.
UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THERE WAS UNANIMOUS APPROVAL TO APPOINT CONNIE MARNER AS VICE CHAIR.
AND THERE'S A SIGNUP LIST SOMEWHERE THERE IF YOU'RE GONNA BE SPEAKING TONIGHT.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS, THE ADDITION OR DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA.
IF THERE ARE NO, UH, ITEMS TO BE ADDED, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MENACE FROM OCTOBER 19TH, 2022.
CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR SAYING, MR. CHAIR, I, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 29TH BE OCTOBER 19TH, UH, 2022.
A SECOND, MS. PALM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL ROLL ON THIS.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO ABSTAIN CUZ I WAS ABSENT FROM THAT MEETING.
UH, SO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES CARRIES.
AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A SPACE IN OUR AGENDA IF ANY PERSON WISHES TO SAY ANYTHING REGARDING BUSINESS, UH, NORMALLY TAKEN UP BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THIS IS NOT THE, THE TIME WHEN WE SPEAK ON OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED, UH, LATER IN OUR EVENT.
THIS IS JUST FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, UH, DURING THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD? I SEE NOBODY COMING FORWARD.
SO THERE WILL BE NO CITIZEN COMMENTS SECTION.
OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
THE CONSENT AGENDA IS COMPOSED OF ITEMS THAT WE WILL DISCUSS AT OUR DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION.
AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS TO AUTHORIZE, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS FOR OUR DECEMBER THE 21ST, UM, UH, MEETING, A REGULAR MEETING OR LAST ONE OR THE YEAR IN DECEMBER.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, IN ORDER TO PULL AN ITEM, YOU DO HAVE TO REQUEST IT AND IT WILL BE MOVED TO THE, UH, UNDER BUSINESS ITEMS AT THE END OF OUR, UH, AGENDA.
SO ANY COMMENTS ON MOTION? QUESTION? YES.
IF THIS LIST OF CONSENT AGENDA UNDERSTANDS, DOES THAT MEAN WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME? THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THEN FOR THE, YEAH.
ALL OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WE WILL LOOK AT ON THE DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION.
SO WE, WE DO GET A WORK SESSION TO LOOK AT THEM, BUT YES.
IS THAT, BUT IT IS TOO LATE AT THAT POINT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
TO WHAT? TO MAKE ANY CHANGES FOR THE MODIFIC.
THAT'S WHAT WE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PULL AND ITEM
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ALL, ESPECIALLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT.UH, GEORGE, CAN THE CHAIRMAN PULL OFF AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I THINK I CAN, RIGHT? UH, IT'S IN THE BYLAWS.
UM, DO YOU HAVE, CAN I'M, AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL, THE, THE PULLING IT OFF.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA TAKE ACTION ON IT.
I JUST WANT TO CLEARLY, UH, DEFINE WHAT THE STEPS ARE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT LIKE A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, ADVERTISEMENT.
THIS IS, THIS IS A 250 PAGE DOCUMENT TO DATE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE, WE STILL HAVE ITEM, BUT ANYWAY, IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, I WOULD REQUEST, I WOULD PULL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PUT IT IN, UM, PUT IT IN NEW BUSINESS, UH, UNDER THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR ITEM 10 TONIGHT.
AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THEIR CONSENT AGENDA, WE CAN DO THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR NEEDS A SECOND.
THAT'S TO, I THOUGHT YOU DID THIS MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE CONSENT AGENDA TO PULL THAT ITEM.
SO THAT'S A SEPARATE MOTION TO PULL.
WELL, ACTUALLY, TO PULL THE ITEM DOESN'T REQUIRE SECOND CHOICE.
BY OUR LAW OR BY THE WAY WE HANDLE IT, JUST, WE JUST PULL IT, PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT SPACE.
BUT I DO NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA TO MOVE FORWARD.
WELL, WITH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA UNLESS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UNLESS THE SECOND.
CONNIE, CAN YOU HAVE A, UH, ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT, PLEASE.
UH, CHAIRMAN MERCHANT? UH, YES.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE, SO THAT, THAT MOTION IS APPROVED, OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE ONE, TWO SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, REZONING FROM NVR RYAN HOLMES HETA, AMENDED PROMPTERS AND A LODGING HOUSE ON CHESTER STREET.
UH, THAT WILL, WE WILL WORK ON OUR DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION AND GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 21ST.
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL AT ONE 16 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE.
UM, JOHN, COULD YOU BRING US UP TO SPEED ON THIS APPLICATION PLEASE? APPLICATION 22 3 49 IS FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 1116 NORTH RURAL AVENUE.
UH, THAT APPLICATION WAS AMENDED FROM THE, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, NOW IT IS FOR A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL, UH, FOR FIVE BEDROOMS AND FOR, UH, FOR MAXIMUM OF 10 PEOPLE.
UH, THERE IS AMPLE PARKING ON SITE.
UH, THE INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED IN AUGUST 29TH, 2022 FOR THE ONE ROOM WHICH PASSED INSPECTION.
HOWEVER, THE OTHER FOUR ROOMS ARE NOT COMPLETED AND HAVE NOT COMPLETED AN INSPECTION ON THEM.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE ON IT? UH, SAY THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE OTHER THAN THE INSPECTION, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT IS CORRECT.
FOR SOME RULES FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, WE WILL NOW ALLOW THE APPLICANT, IF YOU SO WISHES TO SPEAK, TO GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION ON IT.
I WILL THEN OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, THE PUBLIC THEN IS ENCOURAGED TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS MATTER.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANET COMMISSION WILL, UH, ASK, UH, QUESTIONS IF THEY, IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
UH, WE DO ASK WHEN YOU, UH, GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, WRITE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, UH, ON THE LIST AND ANNOUNCE IT OUT LOUD.
UH, WE ASK THAT YOUR COMMENTS BE DIRECTED AT THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT.
UH, THIS IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SPEAKERS TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON WHETHER THIS PARTICULAR USE IS
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APPROPRIATE FOR THAT LOCATION.SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS THE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, CORRECT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, SIR? YEAH.
AARON H LOCATED AT, UH, 1516 NORTH ROYAL, UH, OWNER OF HEIGHT PROPERTIES, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THAT PARCEL.
UM, ORIGINALLY I PLANNED ON, SO THE ANALYSIS SYSTEM POSED OF, UH, THREE SEPARATE DWELLING UNITS.
UM, ORIGINALLY WHAT I WAS GONNA DO WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN THE ONE READY.
IT WAS INFORMED BY THE TIM ATTORNEY THAT, UM, THE, UH, C ONE DISTRICT ONLY ALLOWS, UH, DOESN'T ALLOW DWELLING UNITS ON, ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
SO THEY ADVISED THAT, UM, WE TRACK FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, SINCE WE'VE GOT THAT ONE UNIT APPROVED, GO AHEAD AND GET THAT LAUNCHED WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON, ON THE UNITS.
UM, OR WE GET SOME COMING IN ON, ON THAT, THAT BUILDING WHILE WE, WE WORK ON THE REST OF IT.
I MEAN, TODAY SO FAR, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF A RUNDOWN.
I MEAN, WE'VE, OUR PROPERTIES AND REHAB 'EM AND KIND OF REVITALIZE 'EM DOING THE SAME THING HERE.
WE'VE PRETTY MUCH FINISHED WITH THE EXTERIOR OF IT.
LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT THAT ONE UNIT READY.
SO, I MEAN, IDEALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GET THAT ONE GOING AND I'D BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND SOME STIPULATION THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET THE REST OF THE, THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, DONE ON A LOT OF TIME THAT, AND YOU GUYS COULD THROUGH MINUTE OR SOMETHING, BUT REALLY LOOKING JUST TO, JUST TO GET THAT ONE UNIT UP AND RUNNING AND, AND GET SOME COME, COMING IN ON IT.
UM, WE'LL PLEASE TAKE A ROUND, WE'LL PROBABLY BRING YOU BACK UP AFTER WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I ACTUALLY OWN THE BUSINESS, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT PERFORMANCE SPORTS FINE.
UM, THE MAIN, MAIN CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT IN MARCH.
SINCE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEGUN, THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH DEBRIS LEFT ALONGSIDE THAT BUILDING.
WHEN WE MODIFIED OUR BUILDING AND REHABBED OUR BUILDING.
OUR ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TIE INTO THE TOWN, HOW WE STARTED DOING ALL THE MURALS DOWNTOWN AND KIND OF BRINGING IN SOME OF THAT ENTRANCE CORRIDOR APPEAL.
UM, AND SINCE MAY I HAVE CAMPERS, TRAILERS, VANS, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, FRONT LOADERS, TRUCKS WITH PIPES, LADDERS, CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, MISCELLANEOUS COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, SIDING, DEBRIS RANGING FROM ANYWHERE OF TOUCHING MY BUILDING TO FOUR INCHES.
I COULD SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THAT.
I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOU AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
I'D SERIOUS ABOUT CLEANUP DEBRIS BECAUSE THAT'S MY CONCERN.
IT IT'S NOT JUST THE BEAUTY OF IT.
MY BUSINESS, UM, WHEN WE OPENED, WE MOVED INTO THAT SPACE IN 2021 AMIDST COVID.
WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL SIGN PUT UP AND THEN WHEN THE TOWN WAS DOING CONSTRUCTION ON THEIR MAINS, ONE OF THE TO, OR ONE OF THE DUMP TRUCKS PLOWED OUR SIGN OVER.
AND SO WE WERE THERE COMBINED WITH THE DEBRIS NEXT DOOR.
I HAD PATIENTS THAT'S ALL CLOSED DOWN WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS MESS.
WE'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE MOWING YOUR LAWN.
WE'VE NOT, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO GO NEXT DOOR AND KNOCK AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALSO A PROFESSIONAL IN TOWN.
YOU'RE PROBABLY WORKING, I GET IT.
BUT WE'VE TRIED EVERY OUNCE OF CONTACT, INCLUDING TWO TIMES CALLING THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO MAKE A REACH OUT AND TOUCH POINT WITH HIM.
I JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY FOLLOW UP ON WHAT'S OCCURRED WITH THOSE BECAUSE AS OF TODAY, FROM ONE EDGE OF MY BUILDING TO THE OTHER EDGE, I'VE GOT NOTHING BUT CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND, AND WE'VE GOT A QUARTER ACRE OF LAND THAT BEHIND THE HOUSE HAS JUST HAD DEBRIS.
NOT EVEN IN THE, THE DUMPSTERS.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE DUMPSTERS MOVE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS WHAT IT'S DOING WITH MY PATIENT BASE, WITH THEM THINKING THAT IT'S CLOSED, US NOT BEING ABLE TO FINISH TYING IN.
I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO HAVE MY LAWN MO CREW GO DOWN AND WEED WITH THE BACKSIDE OF OUR BUILDING CUZ YOU LITERALLY CAN'T WALK IT WITHOUT WALKING ON LADDERS ON TWO BY SIXES ON SIDING.
THAT'S MY HEAVY CONCERN THAT IF IT'S NOT MAINTAINED RIGHT NOW IN A CONSTRUCTION CREW, IN A CONSTRUCTION SITE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN IT'S SHORT TERM RENTS OR WHEN IT'S ANOTHER RENTER COMING IN AND NOW, YOU KNOW, AM I JUST EXPECTING THAT THAT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED TO BE POTENTIAL LOSS OF REVENUE ON MY SIDE, NOT ABLE TO TIE IN THAT I WANTED TO, TO DO THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THAT ENTRANCE CORRIDOR ON THE BUILDING.
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YOU KNOW, SO I, I'D LIKE THAT ADDRESS.I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND WHY IT'S NOT CLEANED UP BECAUSE IT'S JUST A CONSTANT ISO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? SECOND CALL FOR ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM BEFORE IS TONIGHT THIRD AND FINAL CALL.
SEEING NOBODY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR, UH, THE APPLICANT, OFFICER? CHAIRMAN? I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, THE APPLICATION IS SHOWING, UH, REQUEST FOR 10 PEOPLE FOR FIVE BEDROOMS AND IT'S TYPED IN OVER SOME, SOME OTHER TYPE.
WELL, WHATEVER IT SCRATCH, I THINK.
SO IS THIS APPLICATION TRULY FOR 10 PEOPLE IN FIVE BEDROOMS OR JUST AS THE APPLICANT SAID? IS IT JUST FOR ONE BEDROOM? UH, WHAT FOUR? UM, CAUSE IT SEEMS FROM WHAT HE DESCRIBED IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR APPLICATION.
OR AM I MISINTERPRETING THAT? OKAY.
JOHN, CAN YOU LIKELY THE BUILDING HAS FIVE BEDROOMS ON IT RIGHT IN THE BED IN THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
WHICH ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 10 PEOPLE.
WELL, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION TO THAT.
I DON'T SEE FIVE BEDROOMS ON THIS PLA RIGHT.
AND THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR WITH THE EVACUATION PLAN, I SEE ONE FIRST FLOOR AND I SEE.
BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UP TO A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL NOW.
AND THE MAXIMUM WE ALLOW AND A WHOLE HOUSE, NO MATTER HOW MANY BEDROOMS THEY HAVE IS 10.
ALL THE EFFICIENCY COUNTING IS ONE.
THAT'S WHAT I, THE ONE THAT'S LABELED IN EFFICIENCY IS THE ONE THAT PASSED INSPECTION.
THE OTHER FLOOR ROOMS HAVE NOT PASSED INSPECTION OR NOT BEEN COMPLETED.
SO IS THIS APPLICATION JUST FOR THE EFFICIENCY PART THEN FOR TODAY? FOR, FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION.
SO IF THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION IN FOR OUR D FIVE BEDROOMS, WHICH I DIDN'T COUNT THE EFFICIENCY AS ONE IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
BUT SECOND QUESTION IS, SO IS THIS APPLICATION FOR JUST THE ONE EFFICIENCY THEN THE APPLICATION IS FOR ALL THE BEDROOMS. OKAY.
BUT THEY'RE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THEY ARE STILL UNDER RENOVATION AND HE IS ASKING FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, TO BE ISSUED EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENT? WELL, YES, HE'S ASKING TO BE ISSUED AND BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ONE ROOM ON THE CONTINGENCY THAT HE WILL COMPLETE THE OTHER FOUR.
DOES THAT CLARIFY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR COMPLETION? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I WISH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HEARD SOMETHING FROM HIM.
I MEAN, IT IS, YOU KNOW, I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS, UM, I'M, I DON'T THINK THIS IS BAD AS MAKING SOUND, BUT WE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, ALLEVIATE CONCERNS AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YEAH, I CAN, I CAN REACH OUT AND GET YOU CONTACT AND YOU KNOW, I I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE UNHAPPY WITH, UH, WITH WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON THERE.
BUT I WOULD SAY, UH, WE'RE PROBABLY FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, WE'VE JUST BEEN SO BUSY WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER PROJECTS.
I, WE'VE ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL IS ON MAIN STREET WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND, BUT, UH, WE'RE STARTING TO EASE UP ON THOSE, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START HAMMERING ON IT AND GET THAT THING DONE WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
UM, PART OF THE APPLICATION YOU SUBMITTED A PLA LABELED WORKING DRAWING AND A BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT.
IS THAT YOUR INTENTION TO ULTIMATELY DO A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT TO CUT THESE FIVE LOTS INTO TWO? ORIGINALLY THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS A WHILE AGO.
NOW, NOW I THINK I MIGHT JUST OKAY.
GO FOR WITH WHAT WE GOT ORIGINALLY, I THOUGHT ABOUT TURNING THE HOUSE DOWN AND MAYBE DOING SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL PROJECT OR, UH, LIKE A MULTI, MULTI LIKE MIX USE COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH LIKE DOING SOME APARTMENTS ABOUT IT.
BUT, UM, I THINK LIKE WITH THE MARKET WHERE IT'S AT, WE MIGHT JUST KIND OF REVITALIZE THE HOUSE AND GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE GOT.
HOW DO YOU PLAN TO ACCESS THE PARKING THAT'S SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING? YOU COMING FROM THE ALLEY SIDE OR ARE YOU COMING ROYAL AVENUE SIDE? THERE'S ENTRANCE ON ROYAL.
THERE'S ALSO AN EXIT OUT ONTO THE ALLEYS.
SO I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME IF, YOU KNOW THE TOWN PREFERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
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ACTUALLY LIVE NEAR THIS, SO WHAT, YOU KNOW.IS THERE ANOTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR CONTRACTORS BUT THE YEAH, FOR SURE.
BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, QUITE A BIT MORE IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
I MEAN THAT'S, UH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU, IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE COULD, THERE IS ALSO SOME EXTRA STUFF THAT WE NEED OTHER, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY AND WELL NORMALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT RANS PRETTY QUICKLY TO COMPLAINTS.
I'M SURPRISED THIS ONE WASN'T.
WE, WE HAD, WE, WE TURNED IT OVER TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THEY'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND GAVE THEM THE GENTLEMAN HERE YES, SIR.
TO GIVE THEM THE DEADLINE TO CLEAN IT UP.
IF IT'S NOT PAST THAT DEADLINE, THEN THE, UH, NOTICE WILL GO WITH A VIOLATION LETTER.
AND, UH, ABOVE THE CODE, I'M SURE WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS IF WE GOT A POSSIBLE VIOLATION ON THE SITE, BUT REGARDLESS, WE, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE MOTION.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, IF, IF THINGS ARE PROVED, THEN YOU RUN OUT THE EFFICIENCY MM-HMM.
YOU'VE ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED THAT THERE'S A PARKING PROBLEM AND AN ABUNDANCE OF THINGS THERE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THEN WHAT AS THERE'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE AND NOW IT'S AN ACTIVE RENTAL PROPERTY OF WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR PARKING AND ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT KIND? SO BEFORE WE GO LIVE WITH THE UNIT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO LIVE WITH, WITH THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO IT, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA ADVERTISE IT WITH, WITH THIS STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, CLEANED UP AND THERE IS, THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.
I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OVER A QUARTER ACRE OF, OF PARKING THERE.
SO THE PARKING, THERE'S DEFINITELY PLENTY OF PARKING, BUT YEAH, I WOULD AGREE TO THAT.
I THINK THE PARKING'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
WE'LL DEFINITELY, I I GOT QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UM, SO, SO WHAT WAS YOUR TIMEFRAME AGAIN FOR GETTING THIS DONE? FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT THAT'S THERE NOW IS DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE, SO, OKAY.
AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN REMOVE THOSE OF THAT STUFF.
AND I HAVE A QUESTIONS FOR THAT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAY UP ON THE PARKING.
YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE STARTED SHORT TERM RENTALS, PARKING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
REGARDLESS, THEY SEEM LIKE WHATEVER WE DO, WE RUN INTO ISSUES.
I HOPE WE CAN GET COUNSELED SOON NOW THAT WE HAVE A ONE OF OUR VERY OWN ON COUNCIL TO, TO LOOK AT PARKING WITH THIS.
BECAUSE HERE WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THIS, THESE PARKING SPACES DON'T EXIST RIGHT NOW.
AND THE WAY I READ THE CODE THAT, THAT THE PARKING HAS TO EXIST IS NOT CURRENTLY BUILT.
THE PARK END PARKING STATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN STRIKED ON THE GRAVEL.
WE ALSO HAVE A CAVEAT THAT PARKING IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAVED UNLESS WAIVED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
UH, HAVE, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE, WITH THE DIRECTOR AS TO, UH, IF THIS IS GONNA BE WAIVED FOR GRAVEL? UH, I MEAN IT, THE, THE MAP WE HAVE JUST SHOWS FLOOR SPACES KIND OF LOOKS LIKE UNLOCKED, UH, FOUR, IT DOESN'T SHOW WHETHER THEY'RE COMING OFF OF THE ALLEY OR, OR, OR BEING ADDRESSED WITH THE ENTRANCE OFF OF ROYAL AVENUE.
I WOULD MUST PREFER THE TRAFFIC COME OFF THE ALLEY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON RURAL AVENUE AND, UH, IT'S ALMOST IN A, IN A SITE DISTANCE SITUATION THERE.
BUT, UH, BUT I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SHOW THE SIZE OF THE SPACES HOW THEY'RE ACCESSING THE SPACES.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER, IF THERE'S A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT, THIS PARKING IS NOT EVEN ON THE LOTS WHERE THE HOUSE IS.
UM, HOW, HOW DO WE PROTECT THE PARKING SPACES? DO WE NEED AN EASEMENT? UM, I MEAN, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW IS ON A SEPARATE LOT FROM THE HOUSE.
SO, SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? IS IT, IS THERE AN ISSUE, GEORGE? WELL, I THINK UNDER THE, UH, UNDER ONE CHAPTER 1 48 UHHUH EIGHT 70.
UH, PARKING CAN BE DESIGNATED WITHIN 300 FEET CORRECT.
SO DESIGNATED TO ME KIND OF INDICATES, I MEAN, WHAT IF HE SELLS THAT LOT, DOESN'T IT? WOULDN'T IT NEED AN EASEMENT THAT WE CREATE THE EASEMENT AT THIS TIME? OR, OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE DO LATER? WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONDITION THAT PARKING IS DESIGNATED WHERE IT'S
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BEING DESIGNATED.AND THAT WOULD GO WITH THE U RIGHT? BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A PERMIT TO BUILD IT CORRECT.
TO BUILD A, A DRIVEWAY AND ENTRANCE.
PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HAVE TO ISSUE THAT.
BUT WHAT WE HAD TO ENTER A ZONING CLEARANCE THOUGH, WOULDN'T WE FOR, FOR THAT? IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A MINOR SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, NO DURANS OR NO ISSUES LIKE THAT.
UM, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT SAID IT MAY BE SIX MONTHS BEFORE THESE THINGS ARE READY TO INSPECT.
UM, GEORGE, HOW, HOW LONG CAN WE POSTPONE ACTION? UH, I THINK IT'S 90 DAYS.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHY I ASKED HOW LONG IT WAS GOING TO TAKE.
CAUSE WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE EITHER APPROVE IT OR DENY IT OR MOVE IT DISCUSSION TO ANOTHER MEETING.
BUT, UH, IF, IF, IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS, JOHN, IS I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO GIVE APPROVAL, CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PROBLEM WITH THE LAST CONDITIONAL APPROVAL WE GAVE THAT, THAT WE HIT A, A BUMP IN THE ROAD.
AND I DON'T WANT TO UNDULY, UH, YOU KNOW, DELAY THE APPLICANT, BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE WE GOT ALL THE DUCKS IN THE ROW BEFORE WE SEND IT TO COUNCIL.
UM, I MEAN, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF DO REQUIRING HIM TO DO A LOT CONSOLIDATION WITH THOSE OF THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING ON THAT, UH, LOT WITH THE HOUSE WOULD BE COMBINED UNDER ONE LOT AND THE PARKING WOULD BE SATISFACTORY WITH THAT DWELLING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IF THERE ARE GONNA BE ADDITIONAL LOTS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EASEMENT FROM ONE OF THE ENTRANCES, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROYAL AVENUE ENTRANCES, YOU KNOW, PARTLY ON THREE AND FOUR.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A SHARE.
OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANNA PUT ANOTHER DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE THERE.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH ON THIS LOT ANYWAY TO PUT A DRIVEWAY, UH, ENTRANCE ON THE SAME LOT AS THE HOUSE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY A 10 FOOT SIDE YARD AND YOU GOTTA BE THREE FEET AND 10 FEET FROM THE HOUSE AND THREE FEET FROM, FROM, UH, FROM A PROPERTY LINE.
SO, UM, SO A QUESTION OF FACT, DOES THE APPLICANT OWN ALL THESE LOTS AT THIS POINT? YES, THEY DO.
SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
JUST THAT THE PARKING DESIGNATED ON THE DRAWING IS NOT ON THE SAME LOT AS THE HOUSE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT HE HAS PARKING WITHIN 300 FOOT.
AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO A CONSOLIDATION OF LOTS? IS THAT A, IT WOULD'VE TO HAVE A LICENSE.
LAND SURVEYOR, UH, DO THE LOT CONSOLIDATION PLA SUBMITTED TO ZONING FOR APPROVAL AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CONTINGENCE ON WHOEVER HE HAS TO DO THE PLATFORM.
IT TAKES LESS THAN TWO WEEKS FOR THE TOWN TO APPROVE THE LOT CONSOLIDATION.
AM I CORRECT IN HEARING THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE, WILL NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARKING UNTIL THERE IS A LOT CONSOLIDATION? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT, UH, WE NEED TO PROTECT THE PARKING IN SOME WAY SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE SAME LOT AS THE HOUSE.
EITHER AN EASEMENT OR, OR AN AGREEMENT.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE GEORGE WOULD, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY A PLANT IN EASEMENT IS THE BEST WAY TO GO, BUT, WELL, I UNDER, I HAVEN'T SEEN A TITLE REPORT, BUT BASED ON STAFF, UH, APPARENTLY THE APPLICANT OWNS ALL FIVE LOTS.
AND SO THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THIS USE ON THIS LOT CORRECT.
CAN DESIGNATE ANOTHER LOT FOR THE PARKING? CORRECT.
AND THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UM, I IT DOESN'T REQUIRE LOT CONSOLIDATION NO.
IF I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION, UM, OKAY.
UH, YOU SAY AGREEMENT, IT WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SAME, I MEAN THERE, THE APPLICANT OWNS ALL FIVE LOTS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A SIDE AGREEMENT, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY A DESIGNATION OF ONE OF THE OTHER LOTS TO SATISFY THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.
SO THAT COULD BE A CONDITION IN THE U YEAH.
IF, IF WE WISH TO APPROVE IT TO FORWARD IT TO COUNCIL, WE COULD CON WITH THE CONDITION THAT ONE, THAT IT FINISHES THE BUILDINGS TO GET THE INSPECTION.
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AGAIN, I HATE TO SEND SOMETHING TO COUNCIL THAT IS CONDITIONAL THAT MAY TAKE SIX MONTHS TO, TO TAKE CARE OF.UM, BUT REGARDLESS, SAYING WHATEVER YOU PEOPLE WISH TO DO, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND CONDITION WOULD BE THAT THE DESIGNATED PARKING BE WHAT BE YOU NOTED AS TO EXACTLY WHERE, WHERE IT'S AT AN EASEMENT FOR THE DESIGNATED PARKING.
I DON'T THINK AN EASEMENT IS, IS REQUIRED.
JUST, JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IN ADDITION, IT'S NOT JUST A PARKING, BUT DRIVING TO THE PARK, THE TRAVEL LANE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THAT AT? UH, IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING OTHER THAN JUST THAT EXISTING, UH, GRAVEL THAT'S OUT THERE.
HOW CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO PROTECT THAT, THAT THE DESIGNATED PARKING BE INDICATED AND, AND PROTECT US IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF HE SELLS THAT OTHER LOT, UM, HOW, HOW DOES THE PARKING SITUATION WORK IF IT'S DESIGNATED, BUT NOT UNDER HIS OWNERSHIP? HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? I, I KNOW THE PROPERTY WELL ENOUGH TO WHERE IF THIS WAS WERE TO TAKE PLACE.
THE LOTS, THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM FOR THOSE LOTS THERE FROM, JUST FROM WHAT I KNOW OF THE LOTS DOWN STREET I KNOW, BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS APPROVING SOMETHING'S NOT EVEN BUILT YET.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN OVERALL BECAUSE THIS SETS A PRECEDENCE FOR, IN MY OPINION, SETS PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE APPROVALS.
AND WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE FOR NEXT TIME SOMETHING COMES IN? PERSONALLY, I THINK WE HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING TO, TO PHYSICALLY INSPECT, TO PHYSIC, YOU KNOW, TO PHYSICALLY APPROVE, TO BE, WELL ONE, ONE OPTION, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, IS WE COULD TABLE IT MM-HMM.
AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE IT DONE BY THEN, THEN WE DENIED THE APPLICATION.
AND, BUT WITH THAT, IN CASE HE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND, AND REAPPLY ONCE HE GETS IT, BILL.
UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY, I DON'T WANNA CROSS ANY HARDSHIP FOR IN THAT REGARD.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT DESIGNATING THAT PARKING AREA THAT IT, IT DOESN'T SHOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET TO THIS PARKING AREA'S.
SO, AND I CAN RECITE, IT'S NOT BUILT YET, I CAN RECITE THE 300, BUT REQUIREMENT IT'S 1 48 DASH EIGHT 70 A THREE MM-HMM.
A FOUR OFF STREET PARKING AREAS SHALL BE ORIENTED TO THE BUILDING.
THEY ARE DESIGNED TO SERVE AND SHALL BE WITHIN 300 FEET.
A WRITTEN AGREEMENT THERE TO ASSURING THEIR RETENTION FOR SUCH PURPOSES SHALL BE PROPERLY DRAWN AND EXECUTED BY THE PARTIES CONCERNED AND APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER BY THE DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
SO, SO BASICALLY WE GOT FIVE BLOCKS RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT A HOUSE AND THE PARKING AND WHAT'S IN NORMAL CONDITIONS WOULD APPLY IF IT COMES BACK IN TO DO A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT, THEN WE COULD GET THIS AGREEMENT ON THAT DOCUMENT OF THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT IF THE PARKING IS NOT ON THE SAME LOT AS THE HOUSE.
SO, UH, BUT IT STILL, JOSH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT THE, THE BUILDINGS NOT, OR THE, WELL, THAT'S CONSTRUCTION.
THE CONSTRUCTION'S NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN DONE YET, YOU KNOW.
DO YOU WANNA FORWARD IT ON COUNCIL APPRECIATION OF APPROVAL? I'M HESITANT TO, TO DO THAT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THESE, WE ONLY GOT 90 DAYS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW.
THAT SETTING A PRECEDENCE FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NOT HAVING TO, SOMETHING TO INSPECT.
CAUSE PERSONALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WELL ANYWAYS, ONE OF OUR GOALS THIS YEAR WAS TO TRY TO GET THINGS IN THE FORM OF A CHECKLIST, YOU KNOW, AND, AND FOLLOWING THAT CHECKLIST FOR OUR APPLICANTS SO THAT THEY HAVE REALLY GOTTA LOOK AT THE PARKING.
CAUSE THE PARKING HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ASSUMED WHEN WE DID SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOUSES THAT HAD DRIVEWAYS AND YOU WOULD PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY.
BUT APPARENTLY WE'RE A VERY UNIQUE
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COMMUNITY AND THAT PARKING IS HALTER SKELTER,AND, UH, I MEAN, IT'S A PERFECT USE FOR THAT BUILDING UP THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S ON OUR ENTRANCE CORRIDORS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
UH, I, I'M JUST, I JUST THINK WE'RE A LITTLE AS, ALMOST AS AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION IN A WAY.
SAME TAKE JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT BUILT YET.
INSPECTION'S NOT BEEN COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I, I KEEP SAYING THAT'S WORD.
UH, I JUST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE WAITED UNTIL THE, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION WAS, WE, WE CAN POSTPONE IT UNTIL OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE AND POSTPONE IT AGAIN.
I MEAN, UH, IF I, IF, IF WE VOTE TO POSTPONE THIS TILL DECEMBER THE 21ST MM-HMM.
IF YOU STAY WITHIN THE TIME, YOU HAVE TO ACT, AND I WOULD INSTRUCT STAFF TO GET WITH THE APPLICANT TO SEE HOW WE CAN, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT THAT PARKING AND TO MAYBE HURRY UP GETTING THOSE BUILDINGS, THOSE UNITS, UH, CONSTRUCTED MAY BE A GOOD THING.
I, I WOULD NOT APPROVE IT IF, IF, IF A NEIGHBOR HAS A PROBLEM WITH OR IF IT'S UNDER AN ACTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
UH, I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT CLEARED UP BEFORE WE, WE MOVE FORWARD, WOULD BE MY OPINION.
SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S UP TO YOU.
IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO, TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS UNTIL THE 21ST.
IT WILL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND IN VOTE MOTIONS
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS, UH, PUBLIC PORTION FOR THIS APPLICATION TOWARD DECEMBER 21ST.
THE PUBLIC HEARING'S BEEN CLOSED.
THE, UM, LET ME STRIKE MY MOTION.
I, I MAKE A, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, POSTPONE ANY ACTION ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION FOR UNTIL OUR SUBJECTS REGULAR MEETING WITH SER DECEMBER.
UM, MS. POND, COULD YOU CALL A ROLL CALL ON THIS, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER MARSH.
SO WE WILL POSTPONE ANY ACTION ON, UH, SPECIAL REQUEST, A SPECIAL PERMIT REQUEST, 22 3 49 UNTIL DECEMBER THE 21ST AND THE APPLICANT PRIZE AND RETURN TO, TO THE DECEMBER 21ST MEETING WITH ANY GOOD NEWS AND UP TO DATE PHOTOS.
AND YOU, YOU CAN SHARE WITH US, THAT WILL HELP.
THERE IS NO OLD BUSINESS UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
UM, KATHLEEN LOGIC, OUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER, WILL GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE CIP, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UM, AS WE'RE KIND OF HEADING INTO THE HALFWAY POINT HERE FOR THE, UM, THE FISCAL YEAR, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
UM, THAT, UH, WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, UH, LAST YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS IN APRIL.
UM, THE PRIMARY PAVING PLAN, UM, WILL BE COMPLETED, UH, THIS MID-DECEMBER.
UH, THE SECONDARY PAVING PLAN HAS ALREADY COMPLETED.
I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN HARD WORK THAT OUR, UM, PAVING CONTRACTORS BEEN DOING THROUGHOUT TOWN.
UH, THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, WE'VE SIGNED THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH VIDO, SO THAT SHOULD BE UNDERWEAR SHORTLY.
UH, THE REHABILITATION OF THE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING, WE ARE CURRENTLY FINALIZING THE BID PACKET.
HOPE TO HAVE THAT OUT PROBABLY THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS, UM, FOR BID.
UM, SOME OF THE PROJECTS, AS YOU'LL NOTICE, ARE WHERE JUST ACCUMULATING FUNDS.
SO I TOLD THE TOTAL AMOUNT, LIKE FOR THE SWITCH GEAR, UM, RAW WATER PUMP.
UM, WE'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FUNDS FOR THAT AND WON'T START UNTIL WE ADD THE TOTAL AMOUNT ACCUMULATED, UM, THE CLEARWELL, UM, FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, WE'VE ISSUED THE TASK ORDER TO THE CONSULTANT, AND WE'RE EXPECTING A PROPOSAL BACK IN EARLY DECEMBER.
OUR JOHN MARSHALL, UH, HIGHWAY WATER IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE'RE SWITCHING OUT THE EIGHT INCH LINE FOR THE 12 INCH LINE.
UH, COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THAT PROJECT IN SEPTEMBER.
AND WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR CURRENTLY ORDERING THE MATERIALS FOR THAT.
UH, THE WATER LINE UPGRADE, UH, PROJECTS FOR BRAXTON ROAD, MANASAS AVENUE, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN A, IN AUGUST.
AND, UH, THE MATERIALS ON ORDER, WE EXPECT AN
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EARLY JANUARY, 2023 START ON THAT.UM, THE I AND I INFLOW AND INFRASTRUCTURE ABATEMENT PROGRAM IS ONGOING.
WE HAD OUR LATEST BUILD BID OPENING, UM, OCTOBER 26TH.
AND THAT, UM, THE APPROVAL FOR THAT WORK WAS GIVEN BY COUNSEL IN DECEMBER.
UM, IN REGARDS TO OUR ENERGY SERVICES, UH, DEPARTMENT, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY STILL ING FUNDS FOR THE HAPPY CREEK SUBSTATION EXPANSION.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE
UH, THE MANASAS AVENUE SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENTS, UM, WE'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT.
UM, HOWEVER WE DO, UM, ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO ADVERTISE THAT, UM, PROJECT IN JULY OF 2023.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE AUTOMATED METER METERING INFRASTRUCTURE AMI, WE'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FUNDING.
UM, HOWEVER WE EXPECT TO HAVE THE FULLY FUND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FUNDS ACCUMULATED, ACCUMULATED BY 2025, UM, ON THE BACK PORTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE, SINCE PREVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD THE KIND OF THE OVERVIEW OF EACH PROJECT, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
BUT THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO KIND OF CALL EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TO IS OUR, UM, PAVING PROGRAM THIS YEAR.
UM, WE HAD OVER, UH, 24 STREETS IN OUR PAVING PROGRAM AT THIS POINT, UH, WHICH STARTED BACK IN, UM, BACK IN AUGUST.
AND WE HAVE ALL BUT MAYBE SEVEN COMPLETED AT THIS POINT, AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN.
OUR CREWS ON SIXTH STREET, UM, ROYAL AVENUE AND OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT TOWN.
SO, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE ENTIRE, UM, PAVING PROGRAM TO BE COMPLETED MID-DECEMBER.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR, UM, TO PLASTIC APPLICATION THAT KIND OF WENT A LITTLE BIT AWRY.
UM, THIS, THIS YEAR, UM, WE HAD, OUR CONTRACTOR AT THE TIME WAS A LITTLE BIT OVERLY AGGRESSIVE WITH THE WAY THEY REMOVED THE, THE, THE OLD THERMOPLASTIC AND THEN IMPROPERLY APPRO APPLIED THE NEW MARKINGS.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO STOP THAT CONTRACT AND BASICALLY ARE WORKING WITH OUR PAVING CONTRACTOR TO CORRECT THOSE, THOSE, UM, IMPACTING INTERSECTIONS.
SO, UM, WE DID HAVE, UH, TEMPORARY MARKINGS IN PLACE TO HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MANAGE THE TRAFFIC FOR, YOU KNOW, THE LEAF VISITORS.
UM, BUT THOSE WILL ALL BE REPLACED WITH PROPERLY, UM, INSTALLED THERMOPLASTIC BY THE END OF, UH, BY MID-DECEMBER OR SO.
SO WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME YOU'RE LOOKING TO GIVE THIS TO COUNSEL? OH, THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE.
THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL BE WORKING ON THE, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE CIP STILL HAS ALL OF THE PROJECTS.
THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH ARE MAINLY STREETS AND TRAILS AND PARKS.
WE DON'T DO MUCH WITH PARKS, BUT BASICALLY THE THREE AREAS THAT, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT I HOPE ARE STILL ON THE CIP.
NO, THIS IS NOT THE ENTIRE CIP THESE ARE THE PROJECTS BASED ON THE CIP THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR FISCAL 23, CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN.
UM, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET A COPY OF THE CURRENT CIP TOTAL? UH, IT'S IN THE BUDGET ON THE WHAT ON THE WEBSITE HAS BEEN, IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST YEAR WHEN IT WAS APPROVED AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE APPROVAL IN APRIL.
SO, WELL, I JUST, SOME OF THEM MAY WANT TO HAVE A COPY OF IT, BUT JUST, UM, I'D BE HAVING A COPY OF THAT BROWN SHEET THAT SHE'S READING FROM, BECAUSE SOMEHOW I SEEM TO, OH, NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF YOUR PACKET.
THAT'S PART OF YOUR PACKAGE TODAY.
IT SHOULD BE ALL THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THE ONE SUGGESTION I WAS GONNA MAKE TO THE COMMISSION AS YOU HEAD INTO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL 24 IS NOW THAT YOU'RE WRAPPING UP, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GETTING THAT DONE, WHICH HAS BEEN A GREAT PROJECT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TOWN, UM, POSSIBLY FOLLOWING THAT WITH A TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, LOOKING AT WHERE YOU WANT TRAILS, UM, AND SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, BIKE PAD, UM, CONNECTIVITY.
AND THEN THAT WAY ONCE WE HAVE A PLAN LIKE THAT IN PLACE, AND THEN WE CAN POPULATE THE C I P BASED ON CORRECT, COMPREHENSIVE.
AND SO MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS ONCE YOU HAVE THAT PLAN IN PLACE, THEN WE CAN IDENTIFY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT CAN BE DEDICATED FOR FUTURE C I P, UM, PROGRAMS, UH, FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS, SO THAT WE CAN START TO, UM, OF COURSE, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE C I P IS A, IS A TOOL WE USE AND PROPERS OR REZONINGS THAT, UM, UH, ITEMS HAVE TO BE ON OUR C I P IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR, FOR PROPER, UH, REMARKS.
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UH, GREAT, GREAT.LOOKS LIKE YOU DID A LOT OF HARD WORK ON THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF KATHLEEN REGARDING C P? RIGHT.
I REMEMBER HAVING, OKAY, NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.
NOW THE ACTION THAT I WANT US TO CONSIDER TONIGHT IS NOT REALLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA START THE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF IT AT THIS POINT.
ALL WE'RE DOING, I JUST WANT EVERYONE HERE TO BE AWARE OF THE, THE STATUS AND, AND THE MOTION TONIGHT WILL BE THE WHETHER TO FORM THIS ON THE ADVERTISEMENT TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING, JUST LIKE IT AS IF IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, THE, THE, THE, THE TWO ISSUES THAT I HAVE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, UM, BEFORE WE, WE MOVE IT FORWARD IS IT'S A HUGE DOCUMENT AND IT'S EVOLVING ALL THE TIME.
APPARENTLY I TALKED WITH COMMISSIONER MARSH, SHE HAD MADE SOME COMMENTS TO, OR AT THE PUBLIC INPUT SESSION THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, OR WAS IT LAST WEEK? YEAH, LAST WEEK.
UM, THAT THE, THE CONTRACTOR SUMMIT INDICATED THAT SHE WAS GONNA MAKE CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT.
BUT I AM VERY RELUCTANT TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING WITH A DOCUMENT THAT ISN'T FINALIZED OR AT LEAST THE FINAL DRAFT.
UH, I KNOW I HAVE ISSUES WITH THE, UM, UH, MAPS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAPS COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON 'EM, SUCH AS NORTH ARROWS, STREET NAMES, UM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SOME LOCAL IDENTIFIER TO BE HELP IDENTIFYING THE MAPS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THE MARSHALL AREA PLANNING AREA 15, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL, UH, PRELIMINARY DRAFT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE, WE HAD SHOWN ALL OF THAT AS, AS MIXED USE, LIKE THE VOLUNTARY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE COUNTY, AND THE TOWN.
UM, UH, AND I THINK JUST LEAVING IT A VERY BLANK MIXED USE, UH, CAN, CAN GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY, GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE BOTH A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS VARIOUS STAGES OF RESIDENTIAL, BE IT R ONE, R TWO OR R THREE.
UH, BUT IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE.
IT APPEARS, JOSH, IT'S, UH, OUR, IT'S, IT'S OUR ONE OR OUR SINGLE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
UH, BUT AGAIN, TONIGHT ALL I WANT US TO DO IS, UH, CONNIE ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE FACT THAT THEY PROMISED YOU CHANGES TO THIS TO MOVE FORWARD TO? THIS DOES NOT TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE THIS, SO SHE WAS DOING SOMETHING ON AT A DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION WITH THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS WE GOT, AND WE GOT A LOT OF THEM COMING UP, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON, OR HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 150 ACRES FOR RYAN HOLMES LOOK AT REZONING.
WE HAVE THE HETA, UH, PROPER UPDATES, UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE FRONT ROYAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND AGAIN, IF WE, IF WE VOTE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, WHICH IS FINE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I'M JUST EXPLAINING MY CONCERNS OVER HOW DO WE REPRESENT THE CHANGES THAT THEY, THAT PEOPLE SAY ARE BEING MADE.
UM, CAUSE THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO, ONCE WE ADVERTISE IT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, COME IN AND GET THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE ACTION ON.
IF THESE CHANGES AREN'T MADE YET, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GIVE THEM A DOCUMENT AND JUST SAY, OH, YEAH, CHANGES ARE COMING, DON'T WORRY.
UM, I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE COMPLETE DOCUMENT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BETWEEN NOW AND THE WORK SESSION ON THE SEVENTH.
UM, AS LONG AS WE LET YOU KNOW, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WELL, I KNOW ONE OF THE POINTS DISCUSSION THAT I WAS THERE WHEN CONNIE WAS THERE THIS PAST THURSDAY.
UM, THIS THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK, I SHOULD SAY.
AND, UH, AND CONNIE, IF I'M TALKING OUT OF ORDER FOR YOU, PLEASE CHIME IN.
AND WE, WE WERE TALKING WITH THE WRITERS AND, AND, AND AS YOU JUST MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THIS, THIS, UM, AREA OF MARSHALL PLANNING AREA 15.
PLANNING 15 ABOUT BEING MIXED USE.
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IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS BEING RESIDENTIAL WITH THE IDEA OF THIS CORRIDOR BEING HERE FOR MIXED USE.HOWEVER, THERE'S NO, UH, DEFINITIVE ANSWER FOR THAT QUARTER YET.
SO I WOULD HAVE, HAVING TALKED WITH CONNIE ABOUT IT AND HAVING TALKED WITH LAUREN AND JOHN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL THERE AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE CURRENT LANDOWNER WAS THERE AT THE TIME.
BUT, UH, ANYWAYS, UH, I WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH CHANGING HIS TO FULL MIXED USE, UH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD GET MY SUPPORT.
IF, IF THE, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO THIS WORK SESSION ON THE SEVENTH YEAH.
AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IN DECEMBER YEAH.
FOR IT, I MEAN, WE, WE CAN HAVE ALL THESE CONTINGENCIES ON IT, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT LIKE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
WE, WE ARE GONNA RECOMMEND A FINAL PRODUCT TO COUNCIL MM-HMM.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PUBLIC INPUT BECAUSE WE COULD MAKE, POSSIBLY MAKE SOME CHANGES AFTER THE PUBLIC INPUT.
ME, THAT'S, WELL THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DEFINITION PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT.
WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT IN DECEMBER.
WE THE PUBLIC, IF THIS IS GONNA BE THE, THE FINAL DOCUMENT BY THE 21ST RIGHT.
THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
YOU KNOW, AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO, I PERSONALLY THINK WE CAN DO A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSION WITH THIS FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY ON OUR, AT OUR DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION.
BUT HOWEVER, I, I DO AGREE WITH, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN IN THAT TO MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A FINAL PRODUCT.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT FINAL PRODUCT.
I MEAN, IF THE PUBLIC'S GONNA GET THAT ON THE 21ST, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, A QUESTION OF LOGISTICS HERE, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING COUNTY THAT YOU'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH SUMMIT, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF LAUREN OR SOMEBODY'S IN COMMUNICATION WITH SUMMIT.
SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE LOGISTICS ARE GONNA WORK, BECAUSE THE LAST PUBLIC INPUT SESSION WAS ABOUT NINTH, RIGHT? LAST THURSDAY.
AND SO THAT'S THE PUBLIC INPUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER PUBLIC CAME, BUT TO THEM ON NOVEMBER 9TH, THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA INCLUDE IT.
BUT I, BEFORE WE GO TO OUR WORK SESSION ON DECEMBER 7TH, WILL WE BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE CHANGED IN THIS BY OUR, BY OUR WORK SESSION? WE SHOULD.
WE CAN, WE CAN'T TELL LAUREN TO DO THAT.
THAT'S A THEN IF IT'S NOT READY.
AND THEN, SO, SO THEN WE HAVE OUR SESSION, OUR WORK SESSION ON DECEMBER 7TH.
AND THEN IF WE WANT MORE CHANGES, THEN THAT HAS TO GO BACK TO SOME, OUR INPUT THEN HAS TO GO BACK TO SOME OR TO US.
I MEAN, WELL IF THEN SUMMIT HAS TO GET IT INTO A FINAL FORM SO WE CAN BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC ON DECEMBER 21ST.
AND I THINK THE BIG RUSH HERE IS TIME FOR SUMMIT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR APPARENTLY.
SEE, THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT, I LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AS BEING JUST THAT IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THE PUBLIC SHOWS UP AND THEY SIT.
AND IF WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN THE PUBLIC HAS A, HAS A RIGHT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THEN IF ANY CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE AFTER THAT, I WOULD THINK WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO PLACE.
BECAUSE CERTAINLY, AGAIN, I JUST WANT YOU TO, EVERYBODY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING THIS TO A PUBLIC HEARING STAGE.
BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IF WE DON'T AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT NOW, WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL DECEMBER 7TH TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT.
I HAVE TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT THE, THE AD, UM, BY THE, BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
AND OF COURSE, WE CAN HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IF WE DON'T THINK IT'S READY TO GO TO COUNCIL, THEN WE JUST TABLE IT UNTIL WE ARE READY TO DO IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT HAS TO GO.
ALTHOUGH, OKAY, SO, SO IF THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF NEWS ON YEAH.
THE AD IS DUE ACTUALLY THE LAST WEEK OF NOVEMBER TO, TO THE DAILY.
SO IT'S HONESTLY BEFORE DECEMBER 7TH, YEAH, THE 29TH THAT ADD IN, WE AUTHORIZE AND GO.
SO IF, BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO NOT DISCUSS THE PARTICULARS OF IT, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HERE IS ON PAGE WITH GOING AHEAD AND HAVING IT ON OUR DECEMBER 7TH WORK SESSION.
I HAVE EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH.
WE SHOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT, AND AND IF IT ISN'T
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UPDATED BY, BY THE 21ST, THEN, THEN, THEN WE DON'T, WE BE TABLED UNTIL WE GET DONE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF THIS, WHICH IS TO, UH, APPROVE THE FRONT ROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR AUTHORIZE IT FOR ADVERTISEMENT.
I WILL TO AUTHORIZE MARSH MADE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE FRONT ROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ADVERTISEMENT, FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MS. POTTER, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL CALL ON THIS, PLEASE? MM-HMM.
COMMISSIONER WELLS, MAY THE SECOND COMMISSIONER MERCHANT? YES.
CHAIRMAN MERCHANT COMMISSIONER MARSH.
I'VE BEEN CALLED VICE CHAIRMAN MARSH.
AND CONNIE, DID YOU GET YOUR VOTE? YEAH.
SO THE MOTION, CARRIE, SO WE WILL REVIEW THE, UH, NOVEMBER 7TH DRAFT, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S BE UPDATED BY DECEMBER THE SEVENTH.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 21ST ON THE DOCUMENT.
AND, AND, AND LET'S SUMMIT KNOW THAT EVEN IF THEY JUST GIVE US TYPE SHEETS OF THE CHANGES THEY MAKE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO REPRODUCE ALL THESE PAPERS AND CREATE YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
IF THEY JUST GIVE US, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
LIKE AMENDMENTS OR DOCUMENT, JUST GIVE US A, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE ON PAGE 22, LINE SIX IS, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR THEM AND ACCOMPLISH OUR GOAL OF KNOWING THAT THINGS GOT IN.
NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE, UH, PLANNING DIRECTION REPORT.
HOW IS THE PLAN BACK DOING? HAVE WE HEARD FROM HER TO, SO FAR IS SO GOOD.
SO HOPEFULLY SHE'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, YOU HAVE THE OCTOBER 20 OR 2 0 2 22 REPORT, UM, WHICH, UH, DOES CONTAIN A LOT OF INTERESTING INFORMATION.
UM, AND THEN OUR ANNUAL REPORT WILL BE PREPARED POST HASTE.
IS THERE ANY, UH, ITEMS, UM, FROM COMMISSION MEMBER, UH, AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OR STATE OR SAY CARRY NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THIS MEETING.
I WOULDN'T POINT OUT, WE DO HAVE A WORK SESSION AFTER THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS A PROJECT.
UH, SO SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MAKING A MOTION ADJOURN.
JOSH MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SITTING IN FRONT OF US SAYING, AYE.
AND WE WILL TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND GET BACK HERE AT EIGHT 10 TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HERE.