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WE ONE? MM-HMM.

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HEY,

[Town Council Work Session on November 14, 2022.]

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE, UH, TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR WORK SESSION MONDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH TO ORDER.

AND CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL? MAYOR HOLLOWAY.

ABSENT.

VICE MAYOR CORO? HERE.

HERE.

THANK YOU.

JACKSON? ABSENT.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? HERE.

COUNCILMAN ROGERS.

COUNCILWOMAN THOMPSON HERE.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA START, AND THE WAY WAY I'D LIKE TO DO THIS IS WE'RE GONNA LET STAFF SPEAK AND THEN I'LL CALL ON EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEN GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE FOR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF.

SO I GUESS, LAUREN, YOU ARE UP WITH THE FIRST THREE ITEMS. SO THESE FIRST THREE ITEMS ARE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS A SPECIAL USE PER A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, AT 200 EAST MAIN STREET.

SO THIS IS LOCATED DOWN HERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE RENTING OUT THE ENTIRE UPPER FLOOR OF THE, UM, IS IT OIL BLENDS OF THAT STRUCTURE? THERE ARE TWO APARTMENTS.

ONE HAS ONE BEDROOM.

IT'S LIKE AN EFFICIENCY.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS A, UM, THIS TWO BEDROOMS. UM, THIS WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 19TH.

THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

STAFF HAS INSPECTED IT, IT PASSED AND WE DON'T, I DON'T RECOMMEND ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE WITH THE OTHER TWO ITEMS OR DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, DOES THIS, DOES THIS NEED, UM, THE PARKING EXCEPTION AS WELL? THIS IS IN THAT EXEMPT PARKING AREA.

OKAY.

IT'S JUST THAT LITTLE CORNER.

IT'S JUST THAT ONE SECTION OF CHESTER.

OKAY.

DO ANY, SO MR. GLASSBY, MR. ROGERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT PARKING EXCEPTION TOO, SO I'M GOOD.

NO QUESTIONS.

BUT I DO SEE PARKING IN THE REAR.

MM-HMM.

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YEP.

OKAY.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT ONE.

SO WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE NOVEMBER 28TH, RIGHT? YEP.

AND THEN THE NEXT SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.

THIS IS AT 2 0 6 LEE STREET.

AND THIS IS THE, UM, THIS IS SUBMITTED BY THE MINUTE GROUP AND THIS IS FOR A, A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL BASICALLY.

UM, AND THIS WENT TO PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 19TH.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

WE INSPECTED IT AND FOUND NO ISSUES.

AND THIS ONE HAS SUFFICIENT PARKING AS WELL.

ANYBODY COUNSEL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M ASSUMING PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO FORWARDED IT, RIGHT? YEP.

ANYBODY SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DON'T THINK WE SPOKE FOR THIS ONE.

I WONDER TOO, CUZ IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT SEEMS TO HAVE DRAWN OUT MORE.

I DON'T THINK, UH, THE CHAIRMAN RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF IT, BUT I THINK HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T.

ANYBODY ELSE? DID ANYBODY SPEAK AT THE FIRST ONE IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED ON MAIN STREET? I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL.

I THINK WE'RE, I NOBODY HAS ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.

WE'LL MOVE THAT ONE FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THE LAST SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THIS IS FOR A DAYCARE LOCATED AT, UM, 1111 NORTH SHENANDOAH AVENUE.

THIS IS LIFE POINT CHURCH, I BELIEVE THEY'VE GOT A NEW PASTOR AND THEY'RE STARTING TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WANTED TO GET THE APPROVAL FOR IS A DAYCARE.

AND IT'S, UM, GOING TO BE LOCATED, I BELIEVE, ON THE LOWER FLOOR OF THE CHURCH.

THEY HAVE SINCE, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 19TH PROVIDED STAFF WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND A TRAFFIC FLOW DIAGRAM.

I WILL PROVIDE THAT TO COUNCIL.

UM, PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 28TH, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, CONTINGENT UPON, UH, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

AND THAT'S THAT THEY WOULD, UM, JUST SUBMIT A COPY TO, UH, STAFF WITH THEIR, UH, DECOR LICENSE AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ANY PERMITS FROM WARREN COUNTY PRIOR TO COMMANDING USE.

OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW THE PASTORS OF THE CHURCH THERE AND, UH, EVERYTHING WILL BE ABOVE BOARD.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE NO ISSUES, UH, AT ALL WITH THIS.

PRIOR IN

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HISTORY OF THIS CHURCH, THEY'VE HAD A DAYCARE.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD A SCHOOL, I ASSUME, I WAS SAY, BUT I GUESS EACH, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION THEN.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME OTHER STIPULATION.

I JUST WAS SURPRISED THAT IT WASN'T ENORMOUS, LIKE, GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE IT WAS A DAYCARE FOREVER AND EVER.

UM, SO ANYWAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ABOUT THIS ONE? SO WE'RE GOOD.

I THINK LAUREN IS DONE.

EJ I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR TURN THING.

LAUREN, I TURN MM-HMM.

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RIGHT.

UH, COURT COUNCIL BUDGET AMENDMENT TO CARRY FORWARD THE OUTSTANDING PURCHASE ORDERS AS OF JUNE 30TH, UH, 2022.

WE'RE CARRYING THEM FORWARD FROM FISCAL YEAR 22 TO FISCAL YEAR 23.

KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, MORE OR LESS.

UM, THE TOTAL IS 14.6 MILLION OF PROVIDED COUNSEL WITH A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE OUTSTANDING, UH, PURCHASE ORDERS AND KINDA WHAT THEY ARE.

A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, UH, REQUEST REAPPROPRIATION ON IS, UM, THE, UH, UH, THERE'S A P PURCHASE ORDER UNDER, UH, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE NO LONGER HAVE.

I WANT TO TRANSFER THAT OVER TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR, UH, $7,200 FOR THE STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATION BOOK.

UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT FOR $49,000.

UH, THOUGHT PROCESSES IS TO TRANSFER THAT OVER TO, UH, TO START A TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE TOWN.

UH, SO WE CAN HAVE MORE OF A PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

SIDEWALKS, UH, TRAILS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, THE $1 MILLION TO TRANSFER FROM PAVING OVER TO THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE FOR THE VDOT REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM.

SO WE CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY, UH, TO ALLOCATE FOR THE, UH, EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE.

SO WE'LL RECEIVE THE REVENUE SHARING 50% FROM VDOT.

UH, THAT WILL BRING US UP TO 1.5 MILLION FOR TOWN FUNDS FOR THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE.

AND THEN, UH, TO BE MATCHED 1.5 MILLION BY VDOT.

AND THEN, UH, A FEW VARIOUS, UH, PURCHASE ORDERS WE'D LIKE TO TRANSFER OVER FROM THE, UH, FROM I AND I ATE AND THE SEWER FUND OVER TOLU PUMPS.

UH, THE INSULIN PUMPS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED FOR SOME INFLUE PUMPS, UH, TO GET THOSE.

UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, SPECIFIC PURCHASE ORDERS, I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON ANY OF THEM OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT ALL? YES, SIR.

THE FLEET, THE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING MM-HMM.

, HAVE WE GOT ANY WORD ON WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE STARTING OR, UM, WE MONEY ASIDE FOR IT? YES, INDEED.

TO HAVE MONEY ASIDE.

UM, RIGHT NOW WHERE IT STANDS AT, UH, WE NEED A VIABLE, UH, BIT DOCUMENT TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT DOWN ON THE STREET.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER.

THE ENGINEER DID SEND SOMETHING OVER.

UM, BUT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THAT.

UM, THE, UH, MY, WHERE, WHAT MY CONCERN IS, AND, UH, TO BE UPFRONT WITH YOU IS, IS THAT WITH THE WAY INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SET ENOUGH ASIDE FOR IT AT THIS POINT.

UM, AND WHAT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE, THE PRICE OF MATERIAL AND LABOR, I'M KIND OF AFRAID OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA COME IN AT.

BUT WE DO HOPE TO GET THAT OUT ON, OUT ON THE STREET, UH, TO AT LEAST GET A, UM, TO GET BIDS ON IT AND HOPEFULLY, FINGERS CROSSED, WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

UM, BUT UNTIL I GET THOSE FIGURES, I, I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT OUT HERE ON THE STREET HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

HOPEFUL WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

MR. ROGERSON? NO QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING OR, UM, WHO HAVE ASKED ABOUT THE PAVING AND THE $1 MILLION AMENDMENT, UM, WE WERE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A THING WHERE WE USE IT OR LOSE IT.

WE HAVE TO MATCH.

SO THOSE FUNDS, BASICALLY, IF WE WANT EIGHTH STREET TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, WE HAVE TO JUMP ON THIS NOW WITH THE STATE'S HELP.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, EIGHTH STREET IS A BRIDGE THAT REALLY, REALLY DESPERATELY NEEDS IT AND FLOODS OFTEN.

SO YES MA'AM.

JUST REITERATING THAT THOMPSON, THE, UM, THE 49,000, UH, TRANSFERRING FOR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UM, I, THE ONLY THING I'VE HAD SOME THOUGHTS WERE, IS THE BLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE GONNA GET THIS LOCAL BUILDING CODE APPEAL KICKED OFF AND, AND REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN START MOVING TOWARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING SOME OF OUR BLIGHTED BUILDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANY THOUGHT THAT SOME EXPENSES IN THAT, THAT WE MAYBE DIDN'T SET US OUT ENOUGH MONEY FOR THAT IS THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, MORE, HAVE MORE PRIORITY THEN THE BLADE PLAN? WE CAN, UH, CERTAINLY.

I MEAN, IF YOU, IF THE PREFERENCE IS, WE CAN PUT IT UNDER BLIGHTED BUILDINGS AND AS THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN MOVES FORWARD, CUZ WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN NEXT

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BUDGET CYCLE FOR A TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE CAN, UH, PUT THOSE FUNDS UNDER BLIGHTED BUILDING TEMPORARILY.

AND THEN, UM, AS THAT TRANSPIRES, UM, WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER THERE, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WHEN WE, UH, ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WE CAN REVIEW WITH THEN, I MEAN, IT'S NOTHING, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE PLACE IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE CAN PUT IT TO BLIGHTED BUILDINGS IF THAT'S WHAT THE PREFERENCE IS.

WHEN WE DISCUSSED A TRANSPORTATION PLAN LAST TIME, I SEEM TO REMEMBER, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT ADDITIONAL, I THINK WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING IT EARLIER TODAY.

I THINK IT'S MORE THE TUNE OF 150.

OH WOW.

AND THEN SECONDLY, THE BLIGHTED BUILDINGS.

WE HAVE 40,000 IN THAT, WHAT WAS THAT, 92? YEAH.

YES.

92 FOR BLIGHTED BUILDINGS, UM, FOR, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

WE HAD 40 SOME ODD THOUSAND LEFT OVER THERE.

I SAID THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO MR. GILLESPIE WHEN WE HAD OUR RETREAT FOR COUNCIL.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT'S NOT, AND IT'S GOOD FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSE OF IT.

AND SO IF IT'S GONNA BE LIKE 150,000 AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO START RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOTHING.

OKAY.

SO REALLY THIS WOULD ONLY TAKE THE THIRD OF WHAT WE DIDN'T MOST LIKELY ALLOTTED FOR IT ANYWAY.

SO, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDS ASIDE FOR IT'S WOMAN IN CO I'D BE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF, OF MOVING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS INTO, INTO THEIL BUILDING.

I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THIS YEAR.

AND WE CAN DO THAT AND WE'LL READDRESS IT WHEN WE, WHEN IT COMES BACK UP NEXT YEAR BECAUSE, UM, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, UH, WON'T BE ABLE TO START UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR EITHER WAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, I JUST, WAS THERE GONNA REITERATE, WE DID FUND THE BLIGHTED BUILDING, RIGHT? YES.

ONLY, I ONLY BROUGHT THAT UP OVER, IS THAT A CARRY OVER TO, UH, 23, THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT, UM, THAT AMBER'S TALKING ABOUT.

IS THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ALLOCATED? THAT WILL BE MOVED OVER TO 20? YES.

IT'S INCLUDED IN THE, IN IN, YES.

SO THEN WE WOULD STILL BE GETTING BOTH OF 'EM STARTED YEP.

AND MOVING BOTH PROJECTS FORWARD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, SO ARE WE, I WANNA KEEP, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO WHEN WE HAD OUR RETREAT, UM, SKIP THE GARY, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO GARY.

I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

UM, WE WANTED TO TRY TO WORK, ESPECIALLY WITH EMPLOYERS IN THE CORRIDOR TO HELP EXPAND AND, UM, ADD STOPS AND ROUTES TO ACCOUNT TRANSPORTATION CURRENTLY.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING.

UM, LIKE TRACKS OVER IN WINCHESTER, THEY, THEY BRING PEOPLE FROM MARTINSBURG AND THEY HAVE A, THEY WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE HAVE 92,000 IN THE BLIGHTED BUILDINGS.

THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME.

EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THAT.

BUT JUST TO GET THAT STARTED, CUZ AS YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO REALLOCATE MONEY ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU DON'T HAVE IT THERE.

THE BLIGHTED BUILDINGS BEEN FOUR YEARS COMING.

REASON FOR AND, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ATTRACTED TOURISTS.

YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE BE TO GET AROUND IN THEIR TOWN.

ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S NOT JUST THE JURORS, IT'S PEOPLE WHO WORK TOGETHER.

ABSOLUTELY.

TRYING TO A LIVING WAGE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND GARY, THIS IS ALL CONSISTENT WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

YES SIR.

UH, YES SIR.

ALL OF THIS IS VERY CONSISTENT.

CLAY SEEMED THE REAL PRETTY BUST UPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

.

OH YEAH.

WE PUT A COVERED ONE ACROSS FROM WENDY'S LAST YEAR.

THIS PAST THIS YEAR.

FREE'S ALL WE GOTTA DO I'S SAY FREE.

NOTHING'S FREE.

WE DID THE PET, BUT WE, WE HAD TO DO THE PADS.

OKAY.

AND THEN, OH, IT'S REVENUE SHARING, RIGHT? WE INSTALL WHAT'S THAT? WE, WE MM-HMM.

.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE BUY THOSE TO US, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO IT'S LIKE PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF MAYBE LEAVING IT IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR NOW AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'VE SET ASIDE ENOUGH MONEY FOR BLIGHTED BUILDING.

CUZ THAT'S, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BLOW THROUGH THE 92,000 HOPE I HAVE SOMETHING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

YOU'RE FINE.

SO WITH THAT TRANSPORTATION THING, I WAS WONDERING, ARE WE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE EMPLOYERS IN THE CORRIDOR AND ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THAT FINANCIAL BURDEN IF WE CAN HELP THEM GET EMPLOYEES OUT THERE? CERTAINLY, UM, BECAUSE I, THE WAY I SEE IT IS THE MORE LIVABLE WAGES ARE OUT THERE IN THE CORRIDOR, RIGHT.

AND SO THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT JUST NEED HELP GETTING THERE A COUPLE WEEKS, COUPLE MONTHS, RIGHT.

SO YOU GET YOUR OWN CAR OR SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO TO TRY TO SHARE THE EXPENSE VERSUS SHOULDERING ARE OF IT.

PROBABLY BE A GOOD ONE TO THAT'S EXACTLY PERFECT.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

CAUSE IF THEY'RE HURTING FOR EMPLOYEES AND MAYBE TRANSPORTATIONS AND OBSTACLES, FAMILY DOLLARS GOT HUGE SIGNS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

BIG DEAL.

YEAH.

I WOULDN'T WALK TO FERGUSON FROM MY HOUSE.

MR. BIKI, I THINK YOU ARE NEXT WITH, UH, REQUEST

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BY GARY'S HOUSE.

AND ACTUALLY I THINK THAT'S YOUR LAST ONE ON HERE TONIGHT.

LOVE YOU.

YEAH.

YOU, YEAH.

YOU, UM, EVERY YEAR HABITAT HAS SUBMITTED THIS ONE YEAR EXTENSION JUST SUBMIT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER, NO, JANUARY, THEIR UM, UM, OFFER AMENDMENTS WILL BE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL.

SO THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AND I THINK THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO SELL IT.

SO STAFF HAS NO ISSUES OR HESITATIONS ABOUT YOU GRANTING THIS EXTENSION WHILE THEY COMPLETE THIS DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.

MM-HMM.

, HOW MANY YEARS IN IS THIS? I KNOW LIKE TWICE.

I KNOW IT CAME, I KNOW IT'S, IT BEFORE NEVER CAME TO, I KNOW IT'S BEEN SIX.

YOU WERE RIGHT.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN SIX MY ENTIRE FOUR YEAR EXISTENCE HERE.

YEP.

SO, BUT ONCE, ONCE YOU SEE THE NEW, UM, PROFFERS, I THINK YOU'LL THEY'LL A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.

I THINK LIKE 335 HOME.

YEAH.

SO STAFF HAS THIS PLAN ALREADY.

LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE OKAY.

CAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY CALLED ME AND TOLD ME ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

3 35 HOME.

PART OF THE PROCESS IS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD THEY, UM, REVIEW ALL PROFFERS FOR THE TOWN? THEY COMPUTE A, UM, THEY DO A FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS MM-HMM.

, RIGHT? RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON FOR AN MOU WITH THEM FROM LIKE 2003 FOR THIS.

SO, UM, THEY LOOK AT IT FIRST.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET THE APPLICATION IN, WE GET IT INTO OUR SYSTEM.

I ROUTE IT OUT TO THE WHOLE COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S THREE THAT HAS BEEN UP.

YOU THINK IT'S, YOU THINK IT'S THREE 80 FIVE'S A PROJECT THAT'S GROWN FROM MAYBE TWO AND A QUARTER TO 50 TO THREE? WELL, THE INITIAL, THE INITIAL SET OF PROFFERS, AT LEAST THE COPY THAT I HAVE MM-HMM.

WAS TALKING ABOUT OVER 400 PLUS UNITS.

SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY SCALED DOWN THE GEOLOGY OF THAT SITE.

AND THE SLOPES I THINK MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING TO DEVELOP AS MANY UNITS AS THEY WANT IT TO.

I THINK IN THIS ITERATION YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY UNITS ARE A LOT LESS SINGLE FAMILY.

YES.

SO WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE THE NUMBER IS FAIRLY SECURE OR FAIRLY, FAIRLY STABLE AND YES.

AND I BELIEVE THEY ANTICIPATE PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL 38 CHILDREN INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

81 ONLY THE NEW ONE STUDENTS WERE GREAT.

MAXIMUM CAPACITY.

I THINK ONE THAT ORIGINAL PROFFER, I MEAN I, I THINK IT SHOWED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STREETS, UM, THERE WAS A PARK I THINK WAS ON THERE FOR THE CHILDREN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE SUBSTANTIAL.

I THINK THAT'S THE OKAY.

CAN YOU I THINK IT'S BEING DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S LIKE A PARK SOME OUTSIDE.

CAN YOU SAY AGAIN, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION HERE BETWEEN HOW THE NUMBER OF HOUSES YOU SAID I HEARD 3 35.

DID YOU SAY 3 85? NO, 3 35 ROOMMATE.

AND IT'S SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWN.

SINGLE FAMILY AND, AND TOWN HOMES.

YEP.

OKAY.

AND SO ALSO, UM, MS. KAKI WAS, SHE JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND I KNOW AMBER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A SCHOOL.

UM, SHE HAS BEEN IN, UM, CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOLS CUZ WE'RE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT AND THAT WAS PART OF THE IMPACT STATEMENT.

SO, AND I MET WITH, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK, MONDAY.

AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OVER THERE, IT'S, I THINK EIGHT CHILDREN OVER CAPACITY.

THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE CAPACITIES.

THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL AND A MAXIMUM.

WE ARE OVER THE EDUCATIONAL CAPACITY.

WE ARE NOT AT THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY.

YOU SAID ONCE THAT IS REACHED, THAT'S WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE MODEL.

UM, BUT, AND WE AREN'T THERE YET WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND JUST SO THE PEOPLE WATCHING AND ARE HERE ATTENDING KNOW THAT SCHOOL IS THE SCHOOL THAT'S UNDER 10 MILLION RENOVATION.

RIGHT? SO WE COULD HAVE THIS 10 MILLION RENOVATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEN THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED AND WE NEED ANOTHER RENOVATION.

AND THIS CLASSES IN ADDITION PACKED LAST YEAR WHEN CHRIS WAS THERE WAS 20 SOMETHING KIDS IN A CLASSROOM AND YOU BARELY COULD MOVE AROUND AS AN ADULT.

YOU COULD, THEY'RE NOT EVEN, THEY'RE NOT EVEN SWITCHING CLASSES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS AWARE OF IT AND THIS BECAUSE SHE'S MET WITH THEM.

AND I KNOW, LIKE WHEN HE SAID ABOUT, UM, IF IT REACHED THAT LEVEL, I WOULD THIS, THIS IS ALL THEIR, THIS IS ALL THEIR BABY AND WHAT THEY WOULD DECIDE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT COULD, COULD ALWAYS BE THAT THEY MOVED SOME LINES.

I KNOW THEY'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO MOVE SOME LINES AND SHIFT KIDS.

THAT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

IT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE TWO OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE OVER EDUCATIONAL CAPACITY AS WELL.

YEAH.

YEP.

YEP.

BUT THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED DISCUSSING THE POTENTIAL MODEL CHANGE.

COULD, YOU COULD SEE SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, KINDERGARTEN TO THIRD GRADE WOULD BE AT ONE SCHOOL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FOURTH MAYBE THEY'LL BUILD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THEY'LL HAVE LOT TO THINK ABOUT THERE.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY

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PROBLEMS WITH GIVING THEM ANOTHER? QUITE HONESTLY, THIS IS THE CLOSEST THING .

SO I WOULD SAY END OF SIGHT MAYBE I ASKED LAST YEAR, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T EXTEND THEIR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT? THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO THAT WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL PROBABLY NINE TO 12 MONTHS ONTO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND I HAVE A FEELING IT'S PROBABLY ALREADY GONNA TAKE THEM ANOTHER PROBABLY YEAR AND A HALF START BREAKING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU WARREN.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEXT UP IS THAT WHILE 23 BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR COMMUNITY FLOOD PREPAREDNESS BY GRANT, AGAIN, BJ JUST HANG OUT.

UM, SO THE, UH, UH, THE TOWN WAS APPROVED, UH, TO RECEIVE A, UH, A GRANT, UH, FOR $90,000 WITH A $10,000 MATCH FROM THE TOWN.

UH, SO WHAT WE'RE, UH, FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY FLOOD, UH, FLOOD PREPAREDNESS FUND, UH, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL TO DO IS, UH, APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ALLOW US TO ACCEPT THOSE FUNDS AND THEN ALSO RAISE OUR EXPENDITURES UP SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UM, OUR FLOOD AGREEMENTS PROGRAM.

OKAY.

SAME STRAIGHTFORWARD.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND MOVING ON TO NUTRIENT REDUCTION PERFORMANCE MONETARY ASSESSMENT.

YEP.

SO THE, UH, THE TOWN RECEIVED, UM, LET'S SEE HERE, APPROXIMATELY WHAT A 15 MILLION GRANT, UH, FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UH, WE EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT OF PHOSPHORUS, UM, UH, THAT WERE ABLE TO PUT BACK, UH, INTO THE RIVER, UH, IN 2019 AT THAT.

UH, SO THIS GOES BACK TO 2019.

AND, UH, SO WE HAVE TO PAY BACK A PORTION OF THOSE GRANT FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, TO THE TUNE OF $82,000 BECAUSE WE EXCEED THO EXCEEDED THOSE.

UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UH, MR. BOYER HAS SOME MORE INFORMATION IF YOU WANNA HEAR ALL THE LOGISTICS ON IT, BUT I THINK IT'S MAINLY CUZ OF OUR IN I PROGRAM AND THE PLANT GETTING BACKED UP WHEN WE HAD TOO MUCH.

YEAH, YEAH.

ITS PART OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY WATERSHED.

IT'S ONE OF THE NUTRIENTS.

PHOSPHORUS AND NITROGEN WERE THE TWO MAIN, UH, NUTRIENTS IN THAT AGREEMENT.

AND SO IN 2019 IT WAS OVER AND IT BREAKS IT DOWN.

UM, GIVE THE THING, BUT YEAH, SO, AND ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY IT WAS $210,000.

UM, THE LAB HAD MESSED UP.

SO ONCE THAT ALL GOT STRAIGHTENED OUT, IT TOOK IT FROM THE 210,000 DOWN.

I THINK IT'S 82,000 NOW.

OKAY.

PAY BACK A PORTION OF THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE ON A PATH TO HOPEFULLY PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH.

.

YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.

JUST PUT THE THING WITH THE, I I, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RAIN WATER, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY THERE TO SEWER TREATMENT.

SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT GETS ABOVE THEY NITROGEN WAS, NITROGEN WAS.

SO IS THIS A FINE OF SORT IT'S GRANT MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO PAY OUT? WE, WE'VE, YES.

OF SORTS.

IT IS.

UM, UM, SO WE EXCEEDED ESTABLISHED LIMITS, WE EXCEED THAT AND THEN BASED ON A VOLUME OF SOME SORT, IT HAS A FORMULA IF YOU YEAH.

AND WE EXCEEDED IT SO WE HAVE TO PAY IT BACK.

BUT POSITIVE IS WITH ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE MAKING THIS.

SO WE AREN'T IN THIS SITUATION.

SO STRIVING TO GET THERE WITH THE SILVER LINING IN THIS CLOUD IS WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS, RIGHT? YES.

THIS WAS FROM 2019, SO YEAH, WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET THERE.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

YOU RIGHT.

THANKS ROBIN.

LOWER FOR THE HORTICULTURE DEPARTMENT.

YES.

THIS IS COMING BEFORE COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED ROLLING STOCK.

ANY ROLLING STOCK BASED ON OUR PROCUREMENT POLICY HAS TO COME TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL.

UM, THE, UM, UH, $15,175 IS BEING PURCHASED OFF OF A, UH, SOURCEFUL CONTRACT.

SO IT IS COOPERATIVE CONTRACTING.

UM, AND IT'S TO REPLACING THE QUESTIONS ON THAT NO IMPORTANT ANY CHOICE, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

THERE YOU GO.

GOT A BOAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

CAN I SUGGEST SOME YARDS THAT WE BUILD LIKE YOU TO? SO BJ, YOU HAVE A REVISED BUDGET CALENDAR IN OUR PACKET AS WELL.

CORRECT? THE UM, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, IS, UH, PAST, UH, FOR A FEW YEARS NOW SINCE I'VE BEEN DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, WE'VE HAD A PROPOSED BUDGETS TO COUNCIL BY FEBRUARY 1ST OF EACH YEAR.

UM, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS TO MOVE THAT OUT TO MARCH 1ST.

UH, MAIN REASON BEING, UH, IS BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG IMPACT FROM OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, PROVIDER.

UM, AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT FIGURE IS SO I CAN GIVE COUNCIL A BETTER

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BUDGET AND FIGURE THAT IN THERE AS, AS WELL AS THE COMPENSATION STUDY.

BUT THE INSURANCE BEING THE MAIN FIGURE, WE'LL WE SHOULD HAVE ANY, UH, COMPENSATION STUDY FIGURES BACK BY JANUARY, BUT THE INSURANCE FIGURES WE WON'T HAVE UNTIL MID-FEBRUARY.

AND I DON'T WANNA PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AS ACCURATE.

UH, THE BAD, THE DOWNSIDE TO DOING IT THIS WAY, HIS IS THAT IF I GIVE, UH, WE GIVE COUNSEL A PROPOSED BUDGET ON MARCH 1ST, UH, THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE WORK SESSION BEFORE WE'RE VOTING ON A TAX RATE.

UM, SO THAT IS THE DOWNSIDE TO IT.

NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T SCHEDULE ADDITIONAL WORK SESSIONS IN THERE.

A SPECIAL MEETING.

YEAH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT.

WE WON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

IF WE NEED IT, WE'LL DO IT.

BUT, UM, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE.

SO WE'RE NOT BLIND SIDING YOU AND THE ONLY WENT BACK DRAGGING OUR FEET ON PREPARING A BUDGET.

IT'S JUST THAT IF WHATEVER I PREPARE YOU, FEBRUARY IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.

.

LAST YEAR WE RUSHED TO GET OUR NUMBERS AND JUST DID A BIG ONE.

YEAH, YEAH.

MID BUDGET LIKE FOUR TIMES ANYWAY.

YEAH.

SO YOU RECKON A BIG INCREASE THIS YEAR TOO, HUH? THAT'S WHAT THE UM, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE UH, UH, OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANT IS TELLING US.

WHY DO THEY THINK THAT THOUGH? EVERYBODY DURING COVID, NO ONE WENT TO THE DOCTOR.

NOW THAT C'S OVER, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND HAVING THESE SURGERIES THAT THEY PUT OFF AND, UH, THE, UH, TO PUT IT IN, TO GIVE YOU A HORRIFIC STORY.

ONE, THERE'S ONE LOCALITY.

THEY HAD A 51% INCREASE.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INCREASE INTERESTING.

IN OUR INSURANCE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT APPRECIATION AND INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD ANYWAY.

AND SO IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A FIVE, 10%, YOU'RE ACTUALLY, I I, I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU THROW OUT BJ'S FACE IS MORE THAN 10, I WOULD HOPE IT'S 10.

IF IT'S 10, I CAN DEAL WITH THAT.

FIVE TO 10 IS IS BUT WE WON'T HAVE THOSE, THOSE FIGURES UNTIL FEBRUARY WHEN THE INSURANCE RENEWAL COMES IN.

SO THAT'S THE, THE BIGGEST REASON WELL POINT SCAN OURSELVES JUST QUITE YET.

YEAH.

I SUPPORT MOVING IT TO MARCH.

WE JUST HAD OUR AUDIT, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

OBVIOUSLY BJ KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO THROW FAKE NUMBERS AT US.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

AND WE'LL HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS IF NEED BE IN BETWEEN MARCH AND APRIL.

SOUNDS GOOD.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

PEOPLE JUST NEED, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR TAX QUESTION AND REASSESSMENTS WILL BE COMING IN, HOPEFULLY, DON'T WORRY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THE BID FOR THE SEWER REHABILITATION PROJECT, UH, 4.9 MILLION, UH, SEWER REHABILITATION.

THIS IS PART OF THE $9.5 MILLION, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WE DID JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.

UH, IT'S BEING AWARDED TO, UH, WELL RECOMMENDING IT BE AWARDED TO SNYDER ENVIRONMENTAL, THE SAME ORGANIZATION THAT GOT THE REDUNDANT WATERLINE.

UM, THEY'VE DONE WORKFORCE IN THE PAST.

THEY'VE BEEN GREAT.

UM, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL MOVE US FORWARD TO GETTING OUT OF THIS DEQ CONSENT ORDER.

UM, NOT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I'M GONNA MAKE A REALLY FUNNY JOKE HERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOOD.

THEY WOULDN'T LIKE CONSIDER GIVING US A DISCOUNT CUZ WE'RE USING 'EM FOR THE PRESENTED WATERLINE.

I THINK THEY ALREADY HAVE GIVEN US A DISCOUNT CONSIDERING WHAT THE OTHER WATERLINE BIDS COME IN AT.

I THINK THIS IS A DISCOUNT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

DON'T CALL EM .

CAN THEY RUN? UM, I JUST GOT, AND THIS TOTALLY OFF BASE FROM WHERE WE ARE HERE, BUT NOT REALLY.

UM, THE, UH, THE LINES AND SIGNAGE ON THE STREETS, UM, AS FAR THE TURN LANES AND, AND THE OH YEAH.

WHERE, WHERE ARE WE STANDING ON AT? BECAUSE IT'S STILL NOTHING'S OH, I KNOW CAN SAY ON THAT , I COULDN'T THAT UM, ACTUALLY GARY, WHAT WE DID WITH THE THERMOPLASTIC, UM, THE PREVIOUS, UM, OPERATOR OR THE PREVIOUS, UM, CONTRACT THAT DID IT, BASICALLY WE TERMINATED THEIR CONTRACT.

I BORROWED THEM FROM DOING FUTURE WORK WITH THE TOWN, UM, AND KIND OF TO HELP WITH THE LEAF TRAFFIC.

UM, CHIEF, YOU KNOW, REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT DOWN SOME TEMPORARY MARKINGS JUST TO REALLY KIND OF HELP GET US THROUGH THE LEAF SEASON.

BUT EVERYTHING, UM, ALL THE IMPACTED INTERSECTIONS WILL BE CORRECTED AND THE THERMOPLASTIC WILL BE CORRECTLY APPLIED, UM, BASED ON OUR PAVING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING THAT WRAPPED UP BY MID-DECEMBER, I THINK.

OH, NICE.

IF NOT, OKAY, AWESOME.

IF NOT SOONER, BUT MID, DEPENDING ON WEATHER.

YEAH.

WEATHER PERMITTING.

SO, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME FOLKS.

I'VE ANSWERED SOME EMAILS ON THAT, THAT, AND IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THE CONTRACTOR WAS A LITTLE OVERLY AGGRESSIVE WITH THE WAY THEY, UM, MILLED UP THE, UM, LIKE I MAILED IT .

WELL, AND THEN WHEN THEY APPLIED, WHATEVER, THEY DID APPLY ANYWAY.

IT DIDN'T MEET

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VIDOT STANDARDS TO SAY THE LIST.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE MAKING THE ACTIVELY WORKING THROUGH THAT AND SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP BY SHOULD THINK ABOUT.

WELL, YOU AND ME BOTH.

WE'VE BEEN, UH, THEY WERE MAKING TURN STRIPS.

YOU HOLY, THANK YOU.

BECAUSE I THINK, UM, COUNCILMAN GILL IS ACCURATE.

KATHY KNOWS I'VE BEEN GETTING QUESTIONS AND I'VE BEEN YEAH, SHE JUST ANSWERED ONE 40 TODAY TO A CITIZEN, SO IT'S PROBABLY GOOD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.

SO OTHER PEOPLE WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE CROSS LAW.

YEAH, WELL, IN THE WAY THEY MILLED IT, IT, IT CREATED TRO HAZARDS.

SO YOU, WELL, IT'S A RUMBLE STRIP TO MAKE YOU SLOW DOWN FOR THE LIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

G THREE A PAD MOUNTED TRANSFORMER 23.

OH BROUGHT THIS, OH, YOU SAID, OH, WE BROUGHT THIS BACK TO THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BACK AGAIN.

UH, WE HAD IT ON THE AGENDA THERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

UM, WE'RE PURCHASING A TRANSFORMER, UM, AND ALSO DOING A BUDGET AND BRINGING THE FUNDS.

UH, THIS IS FOR THE CAR WASH THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, GOING IN UP THERE ON 14TH STREET.

UM, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'LL BE PAYING THE TOWN BACK FOR THIS TRANSFORMER.

UM, UH, WE WERE REALLY HAPPY TO EVEN GET THIS ONE BID ON IT.

UM, YOU HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE THE TRANSFORMERS ARE SO HARD TO GET RIGHT NOW, BUT 45,000, UH, $238 THERE.

UH, SO WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AND ALSO THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS BRINGING THOSE FUNDS.

SO THEY'RE PAYING, THEY'RE THIS IS, THEY'RE PAY FOR IT.

A, A FLOW THROUGH.

WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.

THEY'RE PAYING, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE INSTALL.

SO WE HAVE PURCHASES.

DO WE, UH, IS THAT GONNA BE COMING? YOU KNOW HOW LIKE WE'RE WE ORDERED THINGS, BUT IT'S LIKE A LONG WAIT.

IS THIS ONE A LONG WAIT TO, UM, IT WAS, IT WASN'T AS, IT WASN'T TWO YEARS.

I WANNA SAY IT WAS THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS I THINK.

OH, OKAY.

IT WAS, YEAH.

MICHELLE, YOU REMEMBER BY CHANCE IN COMPARISON? NO, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS .

OKAY.

BUT YEAH, I KNOW IT WASN'T AS LONG AS THE TWO YEARS WE'RE FRONT THE MONEY AND THEN, THEN ONCE IT COMES IN, THEY'RE GONNA PAY US BACK.

SHE'LL ALLOW IT.

I'M THINKING, IS THERE INTEREST INVOLVED? JUST KIDDING.

RIGHT.

NEXT UP, H I KNOW IS FRIENDLY, UH, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION FOR THE I I REHABILITATION PROJECT.

UM, $172,000 IN TOTAL.

UM, THIS IS FOR ACTUALLY THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION OF THE I I WORK THAT'S BEING PERFORMED FOR THE 5 MILLION OR THE 4.9 MILLION.

UM, THE UM, UH, AND A PORTION OF THAT IS ALSO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT IS GOING TO BE BE FOR THE RESIDENT LIAISON.

WE'RE GONNA BE GOING ON A LOT OF, WELL THE SNYDER ENVIRONMENTALS GONNA BE GOING ON, UM, SOME PROPERTIES OF SOME CITIZENS AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT AND PROBABLY CONVEY EVERYTHING.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY HICCUPS, THEY WILL BE OUR LIAISON AND IN POINT OF CONTACT.

SO THERE'S AN EMPTY LINE HERE.

IS THAT, THAT'S IT'S BECAUSE, UM, I HAD DONE THIS WHEN I WAS GOING TO THE DOCTOR .

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT FIGURE WAS.

I KNOW AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW? YEAH.

172,000.

I'M SORRY.

RIGHT.

GOTCHA.

UM, THE MONEY'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

IT WAS PART OF THE 9.5 MILLION THAT WE SET ASIDE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? H WE GOOD MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO I INSULIN PUMPS.

WE NEED THESE DESPERATELY IMPORTANT.

THE UM, UH, SO BASICALLY THE ENGINEERING IS STILL BEING FINISHED UP ON THESE PUMPS.

WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND PUT THE, UH, UH, OBTAIN THESE PUMPS, UH, SO WE CAN HAVE THEM ON SITE AND READY TO INSTALL, UM, BECAUSE OF THE LEAD TIME.

AND, UH, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING THESE THINGS.

UM, THE PUMPS WERE INSTALLED IN THE 1970S.

WE CAN'T GET PARTS FOR WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE ARE ON BORROWED TIME.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO WE WANT COUNCIL TO GO AND APPROVE US TO PURCHASE THE PUMPS.

WE HAVE 'EM SITTING HERE WAITING.

WE'LL PUT OUT A BID AT A LATER TIME FOR THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION OF THE PUMPS.

THE FACT THAT THOSE PUMPS ARE STILL OPERABLE.

AMAZING.

SERIOUSLY.

UM, THAT GOES OUT TO THE ROBBIE'S CREW THERE.

CAUSE THEY HAVE, I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE.

I'VE SEEN IT.

I'VE BEEN IN THE WINCHESTER PLANT, THE COMPARISON, AND I'M LIKE, HOW DO THESE THINGS WORK? ROBBIE SAYS THEY GOTTA THROW WATER ON IT EVERY HALF HOUR.

COOL.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NO, I'M REALLY GOOD.

BJ'S ALREADY SAT DOWN.

IT'S A GOOD THING.

YOU LIKE, I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

THE NEXT ONE SAYS LAURA AND BJ, BUT I FEEL LIKE LAURA'S, I FEEL LIKE LAURA'S A BETTER ONE FOR THAT.

I THINK LAURA, LAURA, BJ JUST HAD A BUNCH.

SO THE RESOLUTION TO UPDATE THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK TO ADD JUNETEENTH HOLIDAYS.

YES.

THAT'S IT.

, ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU WANT ME TO READ WHAT JUNETEENTH IS? NO, NO, NO, WE DON'T.

WE KNOW .

.

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THAT WAS EASY, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THE ONLY WAS 5,000 IS ALL SO MOWER.

YEAH, WE DISCUSSED THE MOW.

YEAH MO I SAID I HAD SOME YARDS.

I WANTED TO BILL THEM FOR IT.

YOU GOT QUESTIONS? I .

YOU ASK QUESTIONS.

I'M NO, NO I DON'T I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEEDED ADDITION.

SORRY.

ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER FIVE, KATHLEEN.

I THINK, UM, THAT ONE'S YOU REQUEST TO DONATE THE RETIRED BUCKET TRUCK TO WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, YES.

IT'S A 99 A, UH, BUCKET TRUCK, UM, THAT WE PRIMARILY USE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF ELECTRIC, UH, ELECTRIC LINES.

IT'S A 20 YEAR OLD TRUCK.

THERE'S EXCESSIVE WEAR AND TEAR ON IT.

UM, IT'S GETTING EXCEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND UM, THERE'S REALLY, THERE'S NO OPPOSITION ON STAFF'S PART TO DONATING IT TO WARREN COUNTY WHERE IT MAY REALLY, IT MAY RECEIVE A NEW LIFE.

IT'S VERY NICE OF US.

I WAS GONNA SAY, I JUST, I WOULD LIKE PAYER, I WOULD LIKE, WELL FOR ONE ALL TOWN CITIZENS OR COUNTY CITIZEN.

SO WE'RE BENEFITING EVERYBODY.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I THINK AS AMBER SAID'S VERY NICE OF US.

UM, I, I LOVE WHEN WE CAN SHOW HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THE TOWN AND COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER.

CUZ THIS, WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING THEM A $15,000.

ONE FINAL POINT IS, UM, THERE'S NO VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH DRUG BECAUSE IT'S FULLY DEPRECIATED.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY AN IMPORTANT POINT.

WE CHECK IT.

APPRECIATED.

AND DON SAID IT WAS VAL DON VEST WAY WORKED WAS 15,000.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

THAT, THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT.

I JUST DID YOU WANNA COMMENT? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID RECEIVE A DONATION FROM, FROM THEM AS WELL.

SO I WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WORKING TOGETHER, WAS THAT AN AMBULANCE OR SOMETHING OR A TRUCK? YES.

GOOD.

TWO RETIRED.

WE'LL JUST KEEP SWAPING VEHICLES SINCE THEY'RE APPRECIATING FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN THE HISTORY.

, THANK YOU.

UH, NUMBER SIX, UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

UH, YES.

UM, AND VICE MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

UM, AS WE APPROVE THE C I P BACK IN APRIL, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO, SINCE WE'RE HITTING THE MIDWAY POINT OF THE FISCAL YEAR, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE EVERYONE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE FISCAL 23 BUDGET.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE SPREADSHEET HERE, EVERYTHING THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE WERE JUST ACCUMULATING FUNDS FOR, BUT ALL THE ACTIVE PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PRIMARY PAVING PLAN, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT GETTING THAT COMPLETED.

YOU KNOW, WITH THIS FINAL MOBILIZATION OF THE PAVING, UM, PROGRAM, THE SECONDARY STREETS THAT WERE INCLUDED, UM, HAVE BEEN COMPLETED UP TO THIS POINT.

UM, WE DISCUSSED THE EIGHTH STREET, UM, BRIDGE REPLACEMENT.

WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH VDOT, SO THAT'S UNDERWAY.

UM, AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH THE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING, UM, UJA AND I ARE GONNA BE MEETING WITH THE ARCHITECT, UM, HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE TO NAIL DOWN THE BID, UM, BID DOCUMENTS AND GETTING THAT OUT TO BID, UM, WITH A RAW WATER PUMP.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE JUST ACCUMULATING, UM, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR THAT PROJECT.

UH, THE CLEARWELL, UH, ONE AND TWO UPGRADE.

WE'VE ISSUED THE TASK ORDER TO THE CONSULTANT AND WE ARE EXPECTING A PROPOSAL FOR EARLY DECEMBER TO START THAT PROJECT.

UH, THE JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

UM, AS YOU RECALL, COUNCIL APPROVED, UH, THE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND THE CONTRACTOR IS CURRENTLY ORDERING MATERIALS TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.

UH, THE WATER LINE UPGRADES ON BRAXTON MANASSAS AVENUE.

UM, COUNCIL APPROVED THIS CONTRACT BACK IN AUGUST OF AUGUST 29TH.

AND THE MATERIAL IS CURRENTLY BEING ORDERED.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING A START DATE IN, UH, JANUARY OF 2023.

UH, THE IN I, UM, MID OPENING, UM, WAS UM, OCTOBER 26TH AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED INI THE ONGOING PROJECTS THERE.

UH, THE HAPPY CREEK SUBSTATION EXPANSION.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FUNDS OVER THE NEXT CHILD THREE YEARS.

UH, THE KENDRICK SUBSTATION, UH, TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENTS, UH, THE ORDER HAD BEEN PLACED AND WE'RE EXPECTING DELIVERY, I BELIEVE IN AUGUST OF 2023.

UH, THE MANASAS AVENUE SUBSTATION TRANSFER, UM, TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENTS, UM, WE'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FUNDING, UM, FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADVERTISE THAT IN JULY OF 2023.

AND THEN

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WRAPPING UP WITH THE AUTOMATED, UM, AUTOMATED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, WE'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FUNDING AND ANTICIPATING UH, BE FULLY FUNDED ON THAT PROJECT IN 2025.

UM, WHAT I ALSO INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IS THE PROJECT DISCUSSION, WHICH SHOULD BE VERY FAMILIAR.

COUNCIL AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PREVIOUSLY.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO, TO KIND OF GO OVER AND MAKE SURE YOU ALL WERE AWARE OF IS, IS OUR PAVING MOBILIZATION SCHEDULE.

I THINK, UM, THE PAVING CONTRACTOR AND, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS CREW HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, OF KEEPING THE CONTRACTOR MOVING AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY, YOU KNOW, MOST OF YOU KNOW, ALL 23 STREETS IN THE PAVING PROGRAM.

WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN LEFT, I THINK, RIGHT ROBBIE SOMEWHERE THERE ABOUT ABOUT 5 7, 5 TO SEVEN.

AND SO WE'RE MAKING, UM, THEY'RE MAKING VERY GOOD PROGRESS AND LIKE I SAID, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LUCK, WE'RE HOPING TO WRAP EVERYTHING UP, UM, INCLUDING THE STRIPING AT THE INTERSECTIONS BY MID-DECEMBER.

SO, BUT THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE ME IF I SAID THIS, BUT WHEN, WHEN DO I GET MY BRIDGE ON PROSPECT STREET? UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE TO REBID THAT.

UM, THE BIDS CAME IN, I, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BJ, AT TWO OR THREE TIMES WHAT WE THOUGHT.

YEAH.

CURRENTLY AND THE FUNDS WERE EXPENDED ELSEWHERE.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO FUNDS FOR PROSPECT STREET BRIDGE.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW FUNDS, IT'S PART OF OUR BUDGET MEETINGS COMING UP HERE ACTUALLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THAT ONE.

AND THE BIDS WERE TWO TIMES THE ORIGINAL BID, CORRECT? UM, THE LOWEST WAS THE SECOND LOWEST WAS MORE THAN THREE TIMES.

YEAH, IT WAS LIKE TWO.

IT WAS LIKE 1.2 MILLION WASN'T IT? ONLY CRAZY THAT LITTLE AND IT'S GONNA REMAIN A ONE WAY.

IT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY BIGGER.

SHE'S GONNA GET BETTER.

THEY WERE GONNA WIDEN.

WERE THEY GONNA WIDEN IT? IT WAS STILL GONNA BE A ONE LANE.

I THOUGHT IT'S GONNA BE A PRECAST DECK, BUT I MEAN IT'S STILL GONNA BE ONE WAY.

OH WELL I GET TWO GOING BEHIND EACH OTHER COURSE I GET EVIL LOOK WHEN I DO IT.

CAUSE ACTUALLY THE STATE INSPECTION WAS JUST DONE LIKE A MONTH OR SO AGO.

SO WE'LL BEGIN THAT BACK.

YEAH, WELL IT WAS YOU.

IT'S A GO PATH.

DIDN'T LET PEOPLE A ANYBODY EMERGENCY TRUCKS CAN NO LONGER USE THAT BRIDGE BECAUSE THEY COULD FAIL.

YEAH, THEY HAD LITERAL RATING.

THAT ONE.

THE NEW COUNCIL.

THAT'S YEARS YEARS SINCE YOU OR DRAWN STUFF.

THAT'S A GOAT PACK.

ALRIGHTY.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY I HOLD MY BREATH EVERY TIME I DRIVE ACROSS IT.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CAST IMPROVEMENT PLAN? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

LIKE NO HAVE DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YEP.

SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO OPEN DISCUSSION.

I'LL JUST GO AROUND THE CIRCLE.

YOU WANNA START MS? YES.

SO I'M JUST GONNA BRING IT UP AND THEN IT CAN JUST BE MOVED TO DIFFERENT TIME OR WHATEVER.

BUT I HAD BROUGHT UP AN EMAIL.

UM, WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC, UH, SPEEDING ON JAMESTOWN ROAD AND THAT AREA THERE AND THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS.

UM, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I LIVE ON JAMESTOWN ROAD.

AMBER WAS AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME.

OUR KIDS ARE AT THE SAME BUS STOP.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALK REALLY.

AND THEY'RE AT A STOP SIGN ESSENTIALLY.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST STAND THERE.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEEDING GOING ON THERE.

SO WE WERE GOING TO BRAINSTORM WAYS OF MAYBE FINDING A WAY TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, MAKING PEOPLE MORE CONSCIOUS OF THAT AND UM, POSSIBLY DISCUSSING HOW WE GO ABOUT GETTING SIDEWALKS FOR ALL OF OUR STRAIGHT ACTUALLY ABSOLUTELY.

KIDS ARE USING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I KNOW CHRIS HAS BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE TIMES, UM, UP AT AS ROADS THERE'S A PORTION THAT THERE'S NO SIDEWALK AND THE KIDS WALK FROM THAT STREET TO THE SCHOOL.

UM, JAMESTOWN, THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS.

I THINK IT FILLS THE BUS IN THOSE THREE BUS STOPS FROM JAMESTOWN.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REMEDY IS, BUT I MEAN I WISH WE HAD THE MONEY TO PUT IN RAISED CROSSWALKS EVERYWHERE THAT THERE'S A BUS STOP, A RUMBLE STRIP.

YEAH.

CAN WE JUST THE MILLING COMPANY COME BACK WHERE GET A STOP SIGN.

RIGHT.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STOP SIDE THERE.

SO, UM, TALKING ABOUT THAT, GEEZ, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY ONE OF THE, UM, I CALL 'EM, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? SPEED TRAILERS.

WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? WELL SPEED TRAILERS DOWN AT THE MOMENT.

BUT WE HAVE ONE OF THE SPEED SIGNS THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO, TRYING TO MOVE, UH, TO JAMESTOWN WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH WHERE IT'S AT AT THE MOMENT.

THE MOMENT.

OKAY.

ALL GOOD.

YEAH.

SO AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, DO THOSE, I'M SURE THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT ANYWAY.

DO THOSE EVER COLLECT DATA? YES.

YEAH.

ASK THEM FOR ISSUE, BUT SHE WANTS TO KNOW IF IT'S GONNA ISSUE A TICKET.

LIKE DOES THEY HAVE THAT KINDA DATA? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.

DON'T SPEAK FOR ME.

I WAS SAYING DO THEY COLLECT? I DIDN'T.

NEXT THING EVERYBODY SAY I'M TRYING TO GET THE TICKETS.

NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS LIKE

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US SAYING, CUZ HONESTLY I DROVE DRIVE JAMESTOWN EVERY DAY TO TAKE MY NIECES HOME AND YOU'RE NOT LYING.

IT'S, IT'S CRAZY.

AND, AND I GET BEHIND THE BUS EVERY STOP.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I MEANT IS WOULD IT COLLECT DATA SO THAT WE COULD SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT IS A PROBLEM THERE JUST SO WE CAN GET IT.

IT'S TYPICALLY THE WAY WE DO IT.

WE'LL WE'LL UTILIZE THE, EITHER THE SPEED SIGN OR THE SPEED TRAILER GATHER, COLLECT DATA FOR A TIMEFRAME AND THEN DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ENFORCEMENT ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S PERCEPTION OR IF THERE ACTUALLY IS A PROBLEM AND WHAT KIND OF, WHERE THE HOTSPOT TIMES ARE SO WE KNOW WHEN TO BEST UTILIZE, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICER AT THAT LOCATION.

SO.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCILMAN GLAD VICE MAYOR.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I SAY IT AGAIN.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLACES IN IT TOWN THAT WE COULD USE A NICE SPEED CAMERA.

OH YEAH, YEAH.

WE DISCUSSED THAT AT OUR RETREAT.

WE, WE, THERE'S QUITE A FEW, UM, NORTH RURAL AVENUE FOR ONE.

YEAH.

OKAY, SO NEXT UP.

NO, THIS WAS, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, MY ONLY CONCERN WITH IT ON JAMESTOWN AND SEEING IT, IT'S BECOMING, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT A CALL FOR IT OR NOT.

THE BUS DRIVER HAS BEEN UM, BASICALLY MEDIATING SOMEBODY FLEW THROUGH, ALMOST HIT THE KIDS TWO WEEKS AGO, ANOTHER CAR STOPPING AND NOT SPEEDING THROUGH, LAID ON THE HORN, SAID A FEW COLORFUL WORDS AND IT TURNED INTO AN ISSUE RIGHT AT THE BUS STOP IN FRONT OF THE KIDS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING, LIKE THEY DIDN'T HIT THE KIDS, BUT THEN THEY HAD A, YOU KNOW, FIGHT IN FRONT OF THE KIDS.

SO ANYWAY, IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE, BUT I, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

THE SPEED THING WILL BE HELPFUL.

MAYBE THIS FEED TRAILER WILL GIVE US SOME DATA AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR OPEN? YEAH, I HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION THAT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME, UM, FEEDBACK.

MAYBE WE CAN GET IT ADDED TO A FUTURE WORK SESSION.

UM, AND LAUREN, WE MIGHT NEED YOU FOR THIS ONE.

AND UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST LAUNCHED THIS L L B C A B C A FOR THE BUILDING CODE FOR THE BLIGHTED BUILDINGS.

YEP.

UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT.

I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL WAS, WE HAD AN APPETITE TO GET IT DONE, MOVE IT FAST.

THE ISSUE IS GETTING PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD NOW AND THERE SHOULD BE NO ISSUE.

I ATTENDED THE REVITALIZE DIE ABOUT A MONTH AGO AT THE ROYAL CINEMAS AND IT WAS FILLED WITH STAKEHOLDERS, PEOPLE THAT OWN BUSINESSES AND BUILDINGS ON MAIN STREET THAT WANTED TO BE ON THE BOARD BUT CAN'T BE ON THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

I THINK THAT IT'S ONLY FAIR IF YOU'RE GONNA BE WILLING TO OPEN, OPERATE, RUN, OR OWN A BUSINESS BUILDING IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE TOWN CODE.

GEORGE JUST IS YOU TWO.

OKAY.

UM, SO I'M GONNA GIVE BOTH OF YOU GUYS SOME HOMEWORK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATE CODE SAYS, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE TO HAVE A SEAT ON THE BOARDS AND POTENTIALLY EVEN A VOTE IN THE TOWN ELECTIONS.

I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO OWN A BUILDING ON MAIN STREET IF I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SAY IN THE GOVERNING BODY.

AND WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME THE TOWN'S PART OF THE COUNTY.

AND SO WE LAUNCHED FRIDA, THE FRONT ROYAL ED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE TOWN TO BE ON THE FRONT.

ROYAL EDA.

IF YOU OWN A BUSINESS IN THE TOWN, YOU CAN BE ON FRIDA.

UM, SO I JUST, I THINK THAT BOARD WOULD'VE BEEN FILLED BY NOW AND OFF THE GROUND AND RUNNING IF WE WOULD'VE LET THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT.

AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA COME WITH A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, READING AND HOMEWORK FOR COUNCIL GEORGE LAUREN POTENTIALLY.

UM, BUT BY DISTRICT THOUGH EMBER, I DON'T THINK IT'S ALLOWED.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST FROM ELECTION POINT OF VIEW.

I DON'T, I MEAN I DON'T DISAGREE FOR THE BOARDS, THE VOTING, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THE BOARDS.

YEAH.

BUT FOR THE, FOR THE VOTING, I THINK IT'S A STATE THING FOR THE BOARDS.

I THINK WE, WE COULD CHANGE SOMETHING WITHIN THE TOWN CODE.

AMBER, BY STATE LAW, I MEAN LAUREN, WHEN AMBER MENTIONED THIS BEFORE HAS SAID THAT YOU, YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE, UM, BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

IS THERE A CODE? IS THERE STATE CODE CODE AS ACTUALLY JUST LOOKING FOR IT IN MY PHONE? UM, I KNOW THAT IT SAYS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST A, UM, THEY WANT AN ENGINEER, THEY WANT BUILDERS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF EXPERIENCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY THAT WAY WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING A DETERMINATION IS THIS HOW UNSAFE OR UNFIT? IT'S NOT JUST ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

THERE WERE BUILDERS THERE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF.

AND I HAVE PERSONALLY STARTED REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY JUST TO SEE IF I CAN GET APPLICANTS.

YEAH.

THEY'RE ALL CALLING ME, TELLING ME THAT THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE TOWN LIMIT .

AND I THINK WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S THREE, BUT THREE AND TWO, I BELIEVE, AS I RECALL, A FAMILY.

AM I ALLOWED TO APPLY

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NOW? I JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO START UNTIL DECEMBER.

THIS BOARD IS FOR THE TOWN AND COUNTY RESIDENCE.

IT'S IN OUR TOWN CODE.

YEAH.

I WOULD ASSUME, I WOULD ASSUME TOWN CODE FACEBOOK AND ON THE WEBSITE FROM COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO OWN BUSINESSES IN TOWN.

AND I, I EVEN REACHED OUT AT THE COMP PLAN SESSION THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK.

YES, I'M AWARE OF THOSE FOUR.

I TOOK THREE CALLS ABOUT THIS ISSUE TODAY.

NO, THEY CAN, THEY CAN LIVE IN THE COUNTY, THEY JUST, BUT IT'S ON THE WEBSITE QUALIFICATIONS OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO OWN A BUSINESS IN THE TOWN.

NOPE.

NOPE.

IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

IT'S ON OUR BOARDS AND, UH, COMMISSION'S OPENING.

AND THEN WE'VE DONE A FACEBOOK PUSH.

I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT LI CALLED ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY.

SO I, I THINK AT THIS POINT, BUT YOU ARE ACCURATE THAT IT DOES HAVE SOME PREREQUISITES OR QUALIFICATIONS AND THAT MIGHT BE DISCOURAGING AND I CAN SEND THE STATE CODE OUT TO EVERYBODY IF YOU GUYS YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

SHORT SECTION.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

CALL OUT ON THE WAY HERE TONIGHT.

UM, SO, AND, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT, WE HAD SOMEBODY COME INTO OUR OFFICE JUST LAST WEEK AND THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIVING IN A PLACE WITH NO HEAT.

THERE'S RAT.

THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT VIDEO.

THEY SHARED A VIDEO OF LIKE RATS CRAWLING IN THE APARTMENT.

SO WE GET THIS PROBABLY THE SAME PERSON.

YEAH.

MY GOD, THAT'S AWFUL.

SEE, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BE OFF TASK HERE, BUT SEE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT DOESN'T, HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA HELP THE SAFETY ISSUE? I MEAN, I'M, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US ADDRESS IT, BUT TO ME LIKE THAT'S THAT'S A, THAT THAT'D BE LIKE AT A RESTAURANT, IF A RESTAURANT HAS ROACHES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WAIT FOR US TO COME AND SAY, HEY, YOU FAMILY WITH A LOT OF CHILDREN AND, AND THEY'RE LIVING THEIR APARTMENTS AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.

YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

THERE'S NO KEY.

I MEAN IT'S, IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION.

NO, NO.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT GOOD.

BUT, SO MS. MORRIS SPOKE, UH, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN ROGERS, IS THERE SOMETHING DURING THE OPEN DISCUSSION YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER, ADD, DISCUSS? UH, MAYBE A COUPLE THINGS.

JUST, UH, I, I'VE GOT MAYBE 11 MONTHS LEFT AND I'M, I'M KIND OF THINKING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON COUNT AND I'VE BEEN PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME AND I'M THINKING WHAT HAVE, WHAT HAVE BEEN SEVERAL THINGS THAT HAVE REALLY KIND OF STOKED ME THAT PEOPLE HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT AND ENCOURAGED ME ABOUT.

AND SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO BRING UP TO COUNCIL AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO ME.

ONE OF 'EM I'M TALKING TO GARY ABOUT NOW, UM, AND I'VE MENTIONED IT A COUNCIL BEFORE AND IT HAS TO DO WITH FRIDA AND THE FRONT ROYAL ED, FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY ED.

I REALLY DO WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO OPEN UP A COMMUNICATION LINE TO SIT DOWN AND JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THINGS, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

OKAY.

AND I, I HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH GARY.

IN FACT, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH GARY AND I, I WOULD LIKE GARY TO JOIN ME IN, UH, IN KIND OF SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO, AND IT MAY GO NOWHERE, BUT JUST FOR ME, IN, IN MY TIME ON THIS COUNCIL AS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I WANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS, UM, HIS EXPECTATIONS LOW AND THAT AHEAD, I TOLD YOU TO KEEP YOUR EXPECTATIONS LOW.

YEAH, WE'LL SEE, I, YOU KNOW, UH, SO THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'M MOVING FORWARD.

UM, I REALLY DO LIKE THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING ON BLIGHTED BUILDINGS.

OKAY.

I LIKE THE DISCUSSION AND I WANNA MOVE IT FURTHER THAN JUST BLIGHTED BUILDINGS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS, I BELIEVE IN A LOT OF THESE BLIGHTED PROPERTIES IS A LOT OF ISSUES RELATED TO, UH, SOME OF THE ILLEGAL STUFF THAT GOES ON IN THIS, IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT INCLUDES DRUGS.

I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE CHIEF AND I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SHERIFF AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO KIND OF APPROACH SOME OF THE AREAS THAT, UH, UH, MAY BE PROBLEM AREAS AND IF THEY ARE PROBLEM AREAS, LET'S SEE WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO.

AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING, BUT I WANNA MAKE A REAL EFFORT TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS THAT SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH, UH, DRUG USE, UH, DRUG ARRESTS, UH, OVERDOSES.

UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SECOND ONE.

OKAY.

THE OTHER ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY TOUCH SOME, TOUCH SOME NERVES.

REMEMBER YOU HAVE 11 MONTHS LEAST I WANNA START OPEN CONVERSATION.

I WAS TOTALLY BEING BY.

OKAY.

SO THE THIRD THING IS, AND LET ME, AND, AND BEFORE I TAKE ANY COMMENTS, UH, LET ME SAY THE THIRD THING.

THIRD THING, UM, THIRD THING IS I WOULD, UH,

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I WOULD REALLY LIKE US TO ADDRESS, UM, THE TOWN CHARTER, THE NONPARTISAN ELECTIONS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE REALLY FOLLOWING OUR GUIDELINES IN THIS TOWN AS IT RELATES TO IDENTIFYING NONPARTISAN ELECTIONS, UH, AS IT RELATES TO ENGAGING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND NOT MAYBE ISOLATING SOME OF THEM BECAUSE OF HATCH ACT AND OTHER OTHER THINGS.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THREE AREAS.

I BRING IT UP NOW PUBLICLY.

MM-HMM.

, I BRING IT UP FOR THE COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THESE ARE THREE THINGS THAT I AT LEAST WANNA OPEN A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH, NOT ONLY WITH WITH COUNCIL, BUT ALSO WITH THE COMMUNITY.

GOTCHA.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

UM, SO DO DOES IN ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I'LL GIVE OTHER PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY, THE DRUG USE THING YEAH.

ABOUT THE BLIGHTED BUILDINGS.

YEAH.

DOES THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, BROUGHT UP BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT, AND EVEN BEFORE, UM, YOU GOT HERE, WE HAD SOME PRESENTATIONS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I KNOW ONE THING THAT OTHER AREAS HAVE DONE, AND MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD CONVERSATION TO START, IS THEY GOT STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED.

LIKE, SO NOT JUST UH, THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNING BODIES, BUT HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, BUILDING DEPARTMENTS.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND, UM, SO, SO CUZ I I HEAR YOU.

AND HONESTLY, I WAS SOMETHING VERY, I WAS, YOU KNOW, I WAS HOT ON THERE FOR A WHILE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

HOWEVER, YES, SIR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IS, IS THAT IN SOME AREAS, IN OTHER AREAS IN THE STATE WHERE THIS BECAME AN ISSUE AND THEY WORKED ON TRYING TO CLEAN UP CERTAIN HOTELS AND PLACES WHERE THERE WAS ISSUES, UM, AND THEN IT CAN SOMETIMES CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM BECAUSE IT DISPLACED THIS FAMILIES AND STUFF.

IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE PUTTING PRESSURE ON CERTAIN PLACES, WHETHER IT'S LANDLORDS OR HOTEL, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T, I'M JUST SAYING TO YOU BECAUSE THANK YOU.

BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT'S A MULTIFACETED THING.

IT ABSOLUTELY IS.

I THINK THAT MAYBE I MEAN, MAYBE THE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE STARTED WITH, LET'S GET SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

YOU SAID YOU SPOKE WITH THE SHERIFF, YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CHIEF.

AND MAYBE, MAYBE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY AND OTHERS.

YEAH.

MAYBE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.

YEAH.

AND THEN FORM, YOU KNOW, FORM LIKE A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL IN, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF EVALUATING OR INVESTIGATING ANYTHING, WE NEED METRICS.

WE NEED REAL HARD DATA.

AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M BEGINNING TO ASK FOR.

AND I HAVE NOT ASKED CHIEF AS YET HE HAS.

CAUSE HE, HE ACTUALLY SHARED WITH US WHEN WE DID THE PRESENTATION A FEW MONTHS BACK.

AND IF I CAN THINK OF, IF TINA CAN FIND OUT THE DATE, YOU COULD PROBABLY WATCH THE VIDEO.

I MEAN YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY ASK HIM AGAIN.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, UM, A GREAT INITIAL, UH, INITIAL PART FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THANK YOU.

AND WHERE THE OTHER GROUPS WERE.

SO, TASHA, DID YOU WANNA YEAH, AND I DON'T WANNA BE A DEBBIE DOWNER, RATHER CONSIDER MYSELF REALISTIC RUTH AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOTELS, CUZ THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS AT SOME HOTELS.

WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF FAMILIES.

I JUST SAW A KID CATCH A BUS FROM BAYMONT MOTEL THE OTHER DAY, WHICH I DID NOT KNOW YOU COULD DO, BY THE WAY.

BUT THEY CAUGHT A BUS.

97 STUDENTS.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO USE THE HOTELS AS A, UH, A SOLUTION TO A HOME PROBLEM, RIGHT? YES.

BECAUSE MAYBE THEY CAN'T, THEIR CREDIT'S NOT GOOD.

THEY CAN'T SAVE UP THE MONEY.

ONCE YOU'RE IN THE HOTEL, YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT SAVING UP THE MONEY.

SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THE FALLOUT WITH THAT, BECAUSE ALSO WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT SOUNDS AWFUL TO SAY, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.

SO I'M JUST GONNA SAY IT.

WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT A HOMELESS SHELTER, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S FOR WOMEN, MEN COMBINATION.

DON'T PUT IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

DON'T PUT IT HERE.

DON'T PUT IT THERE.

DON'T PUT IT HERE, DON'T PUT IT THERE.

AND EVEN AT THIS TABLE, THERE ARE SOME, SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN WANT HOMELESS PEOPLE TO BE SEENED.

SO WE HAVE TO REALLY DISCUSS THIS AND LOOK AT IT FROM A PEOPLE PERSPECTIVE AND NOT JUST THE OVERDOSES.

AND TRUST ME, I GET IT.

I I TOTALLY GET IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN.

EXACTLY.

IT IS, YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE PROBABLY USING DRUGS.

I'M REAL SORRY TO TELL YOU , IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU, BUT ABSOLUTELY.

I HAD A DRUG BUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

YES.

I MEAN WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE A MAJOR DRUG BUST.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE FAMILIES.

LIKE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FAMILIES WHO GENUINELY DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO.

AND IF WE SHUT DOWN THIS HOTEL, THAT HOTEL DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL TO US.

BUT THEN WE HAVE A FAMILY WHO DOESN'T HAVE A HOME.

THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A CAR, SO THEY ARE NOT EVEN LIVING IN

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THEIR CAR AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO THAT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE HOTELS.

YES.

IS THAT SPECIFIC? I'M NOT SPEAKING, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TALKING EXCLUSIVELY THAT.

YEAH.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE OVERDOSES AND THERE ARE HIGHER SOME PLACES THAN OTHERS.

BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE LOUD AND CLEAR ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE KIDS.

THAT'S NO, AND I HEAR YOU.

AND IN FACT, I TAKE CARE OF THOSE FAMILIES IN THESE HOTELS.

RIGHT.

I PAY FOR THROUGH MY FOUNDATION.

SO I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.

AND IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

RIGHT.

IT'S LIKE OUR DRUG COURT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THERE IS NO, YOU DON'T SHUT THAT.

JUST SHUT IT DOWN AND THAT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

RIGHT THERE.

THERE NEEDS TO BE AN APPROACH THAT IS UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S CARING, THAT'S SENSITIVE.

RIGHT.

IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I REALLY WANT SOMEBODY TO COME IN, HOLD ON.

I'D REALLY LIKE SOMEBODY, AN ORGANIZATION TO COME IN.

SO I VOLUNTEERED BEFORE AT THE SALVATION ARMY IN WINCHESTER.

CAUSE I DO A LOT OF UNITED WAY STUFF OVER THERE.

CAUSE I WORK THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS IF YOU COME INTO THEM AND YOU'RE IN A POSITION, YOU'RE HOMELESS, THEY ACTUALLY, YOU GET ASSIGNED A PERSON TO WORK WITH YOU AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY HELP YOU GET TO JOB INTERVIEWS, DO YOUR RESUMES ONCE YOU GET YOUR JOB, HELP YOU DO THINGS LIKE SET UP YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.

BUT SOMETIMES I THINK PEOPLE NEED LIKE THAT MENTORING RELATIONSHIPS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF, I BELIEVE.

AND THEN WE, I DON'T, YEAH, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING ON IT, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE BUY IN AND I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE COMMUNITY EDUCATION AROUND THEN LET'S DO IT.

THE LESS FORTUNATE AND THE, AND THE HOMELESS PLAYING OUT HOMELESS PEOPLE.

YEAH.

SO LATASHA, ONE THING YOU SAID ABOUT THIS, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD YOU THAT'S ANOTHER STAKEHOLDER.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IS THAT THE, THE SCHOOL'S GETTING THE SCHOOL'S INVOLVED? YEAH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SCHOOLS HEALTH, YOU KNOW, HOSPITAL.

THERE'S, THERE'S, SO PROBABLY IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO, UM, PUT THIS ON, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DISCUSS IT OR WE COULD DISCUSS IT.

A LIAISON OR JUST US COME BRAINSTORM ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.

SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PEOPLE INVOLVED.

WE NEED, WE NEED, I KNOW GARY'S A MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE.

OH, HOLD ON.

I'M SORRY LAUREN.

YOU HAD AN EMAIL LIST FROM WHEN WE WERE DOING THE COMP PLAN AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS, UM, HOW WOULD YOU CATEGORIZE, UNLESS IT WAS A BUNCH OF NON-PROFITS WHO CAME TOGETHER AND SAID WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDED.

DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT EMAIL GROUPING BY CHANCE? I, I CAN FIND IT SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

OKAY.

CAUSE I THINK THOSE WOULD BE GOOD CONTACTS.

I WAS GONNA SAY THE COMMITTEE THAT GARY'S THE ONE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START TOO.

I GOT, I GOT TWO THINGS.

UM, ONE, THE FIRST, UH, JUST PIGGYBACKING OFF WHAT TASHA AND AMBER WERE SAYING, WE HAD TALKED AND GEORGE, I DON'T KNOW, UM, THE LEGALITY OF THIS, BUT I KNOW THIS COUNCIL HAD TALKED ABOUT FINDING THE MOTEL OWNERS FOR CALLS, EXCESSIVE CALLS.

THANK YOU GARY.

TO THERE.

MM-HMM.

.

YEP.

WE CAN CERTAINLY PULL TOGETHER A MEMO ON IT.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO TO SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO IN THAT ASPECT.

UM, THE SECOND THING THAT I HAVE IS, IS REAL QUICK, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE IS GONNA BE HAPPY ON THE 16TH OF NOVEMBER.

MM-HMM.

, THERE IS TRAINING FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THE DRUG COURT PROGRAM.

UH, WE HAVE TO GET THIS TRAINING DONE BEFORE WE'RE APPROVED BY THE SUPREME COURT.

AND I THINK KALE WOULD FIRST DOCKET PROBABLY JUNE.

OR IS THAT BEING UNREALISTIC? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, UM, OPTIMISTIC.

THAT'S ARE MOVING ALONG ALONG RAPIDLY.

WE'VE GOT, ONE OF OUR PERSONNEL HAS BEEN ASSIGNED, UH, TO THE TRAINING THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MANAGED IN SOME OF THE MONITORING.

UM, AND THAT THE COUNTY HAS SOME FOLKS INVOLVED IN THAT AS, AS WELL.

SO THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S AWESOME.

THANK YOU GARY.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT I WAS JUST GONNA, I DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK.

SORRY.

GO AROUND THE CIRCLE.

YEAH.

UH, WELL NONETHELESS, UM, TO THOSE THREE POINTS, SKIP ONE WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING, I THINK IT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO, AND KALE AND MONICA AND LAUREN AND EVERYBODY ELSE PROVIDED US THE FEEDBACK.

IF YOU FIND THE VIDEO FROM THAT AND THEY CAN SEND YOU THOSE.

WE BROKE IT DOWN BETWEEN DRUG CALLS, TRAFFICKING CALLS, DOMESTIC ASSAULTS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IT IS VERY SENSITIVE SINCE 97 WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN LIVE IN THEM.

UM, BUT WE DID TELL THEM WHEN WE, WHEN WE REOPENED THIS INITIATIVE TWO MONTHS AGO, I THINK IT WAS THAT WE WANTED TO TRY TO PUSH TO HAVE THIS BOARD UP AND RUNNING BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

MM-HMM.

.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS A BIG APPETITE FOR.

WE'RE EAGER TO PUSH, PUSH FORWARD AND IT IS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND PART, UM, THE PART IS SENT IN THE TOWN CHARTER.

I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR GEORGIA'S FEEDBACK.

UM,

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THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN DEFINITION BETWEEN NOMINATION OR ENDORSEMENT AND THAT'S HOW JOE MCFADDEN, DESPITE THE HATCH ACT INVESTIGATION, WAS ABLE TO SERVE ON TOWN COUNCIL WITH US.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THAT'S MOVING FORWARD CURRENTLY.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE BOARD AND WHO COULD SIT ON THAT.

UM, AND I THINK BY THE TIME WE SEE THESE TWO FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS GO DECEMBER 31ST, A LOT OF THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ROLLING DOWNHILL LIKE A SNOWBALL AND MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING PUSH FORWARD ON THAT.

I'LL SHOW UP AT EVERY MEETING AND SAY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

.

OKAY.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA ADD? YOU HAVEN'T, GARY? NO.

NO.

YOU DID.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY GOOD NEWS.

I WROTE IT DOWN.

GARY.

NOVEMBER 16TH TRAINING.

YES.

NOVEMBER 16TH.

WE'RE MOVING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT GARY'S THE COMMITTEE THAT GARY'S THE ONE THAT HAS LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT, IT'S NOT, BELIEVE ME, IT'S, IT IS COUNTLESS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR, FOR TWO YEARS.

BUT I'M, BUT I'M SAYING MAYBE ONCE THE DRUG COURT IS MOVING FORWARD, THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT AND THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S TOO, IT IS GOING INTO THE SCHOOLS AND EDUCATING AND, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING AROUND TO TRY AND, AND GET THIS PROBLEM.

WELL WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT'S NOT A SINGLE PROBLEM.

NO SIR.

USE, IT'S NOT A SINGLE RIGHT? IT HAS A NO SIR.

PIECES, YEAH.

DOMINO EFFECT.

YOU GOT, YOU GOT PROBLEMS AND YOU GOT SOME, SOME THAT'S JUST, YOU GOT ABUSE AND, AND I GOT TRAUMA AND SOME TRAUMA.

YOU'RE TALKING PHYSICAL ABUSE, MENTAL ISSUES, MENTAL ISSUE.

ABSOLUTELY SIR.

TREAT THE WHOLE PERSON.

THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

RIGHT? WELL THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR OPEN.

UM, JUST CUZ I IN MY HAND, I CAN GO AHEAD AND READ THE MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE.

UM, HAVE WITH MAKE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, BUT I SEE REAL QUICK.

YEAH.

MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING WE NEED TO ADD TO IT.

OH, GEORGE, THIS IS ACTUALLY YOU.

BUT I THINK WE CAN REMOVE THREE CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD THERE.

I AGREE.

UH, I I LIKE TO LEAVE QUESTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO LEAVE.

I'D LIKE TO LEAVE NUMBER THREE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE READY? YES.

I MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL CAN MEET AND GO INTO CLOSED MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING.

FOR THE FOLLOWING.

OKAY.

THEN I READ IT.

NO, I CAN READ.

I PROMISE I CAN'T STUMBLE OVER A MOVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL COULD BE AND GO TO CLOSE MEETINGS FOR THE, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS UP FOLLOWING PURPOSES.

THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAID.

COUNCIL MAY TAKE FURTHER ACTION AND OPEN SESSION ONE, THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, RESIGNATIONS, US SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY.

SPECIFICALLY TOWN MANAGER, PLANNING COMMISSION, LOCAL BOARD OF BUILDING CODE APPEALS AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE PURSUANT TO 2.2 3 7 11 A ONE, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

AND TWO, THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

WHERE THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY, WHERE DISCUSSION AND OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY, SPECIFICALLY OFFERED TO LEASE TOWN PROPER PROPERTY PURSUANT TO 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 A THREE OF THE CODE VIRGINIA.

AND THREE, THE CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED TO RETAIN BY PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL SPECIFICALLY AND AGREEMENT WITH DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL.

IT'S REQUIRED BY VIRGINIA CODE 2 24 0.2 DASH 2 26 PURSUANT TO 2.2 3 7 11 A EIGHT OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOLLOWING THE CLOSED MEETING.

I FURTHER MOVE THAT COUNSEL MAY TAKE FURTHER ACTION IN OPEN SESSION.

THANK MAYOR CORO.

YES.

COUNSELMAN GLOVE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN JACKSON'S ABSENT.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YES.

COUNCILMAN NARS? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN THOMPSON? YES.

OKAY.

WE ARE ENCLOSED.

CAN WE TAKE A THERE .

OKAY.

RECORDING.

I'M THAT COUNCIL, CERTIFIED IT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE IS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S AFFIRMATIVE VOTE THAT ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.

LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED WERE CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNSEL.

ANNETTE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNSEL BE TAKEN BY ROLE AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL SECOND.

I AM MAYOR CORO.

YES.

COUNSELMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNSELMAN JACKSONS ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN MORRIS? YES.

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COUNCILMAN ROGERS? YES.

COUNCIL THOMPSON? YES.

OKAY.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? YES.

VICE MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL RATIFY AND APPROVE THE TOWN MANAGER AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED BEFORE.

COUNSEL THIS 14TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2022 WITH THE MAYOR AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.

SECOND, HAVING A, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MR. VICE MAYOR.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M SUPER EXCITED, UM, GRATIFICATION OF THIS, THIS CONTRACT, UH, FOR JOE.

UM, HE'S, HE'S A GREAT ASSET TO OUR TOWN AND HE'S A PROVEN LEADER AND, UM, HE, HE WORKS VERY HARD WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND, UM, JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME BACK.

I'D LIKE TO ADD DISCUSSION TO THAT.

I THINK THIS WAS MOST LIKELY ONE OF THE EASIEST CONSENSUS THIS COUNCIL THAT I'VE SERVED ON HAS EVER HAD.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO WELCOME JOE BACK TO THE TOWN OF FORT ROYAL.

UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT STABILITY FOR THE TOWN, THE EMPLOYEES, CITIZENS OF FRONT ROYAL, UM, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO BRING JOE IN AND GET TO WORK.

UM, I TOO WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM VERY EXCITED TO HAVE JOE BACK.

UH, WHEN I STARTED ON COUNCIL, JOE WAS HERE.

HE SET UP THE ORIENTATION, UM, THAT WE DID TOGETHER AND, UM, JUST REALLY GLAD TO HAVE HIM BACK ON THE TEAM.

I'LL CLOSE, UH, CLOSE THIS OFF WITH ALSO, UH, ECHOING THE COUNCIL.

UH, MY WIFE AND I HAD A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JOE WHERE HE ASSISTED OUR FAMILY, UH, JUST AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER.

AND I NOW LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM, UH, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

I KNOW HE WILL BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET, ASSET TO THIS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT IN THE TIME FROM LAST WEEK TO TODAY, SINCE THE COMMUNITY, UM, HAS BEEN FINDING OUT ABOUT US BRINGING, UH, MR. WALTZ BACK ON BOARD, THAT I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY MANY PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT WORKED WITH AND FOR JOE AND EVERYONE HAS COMPLIMENTED THIS DECISION AND SAID WAS A GREAT DECISION ON THE COUNCIL'S PART.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU ALL FOR, UH, WORKING TOWARDS MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

MS. PRESLEY, ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? VICE MAYOR CORO? YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE? YES.

COUNSEL JACKSON'S WEBSITE.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YES.

MR. ROGERS? YES.

COUNCILWOMAN.

MS. THOMPSON? YES.

OKAY.

MEETING ADJOURNED.