* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] WE [Town Council Work Session on October 11, 2022.] ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL TOWN COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR HOLLOWAY. DEAR VICE MAYOR C**K HERE. COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE? HERE. COUNCILMAN JACKSON? HERE. COUNCIL ABSENT. COUNCIL? YES. HERE. MS. MORRIS IS ON HER WAY. SHE WAS CAUGHT IN TRAFFIC AND, UM, SHE IS ON HER WAY AND WILL PROBABLY BE JOINING DURING THE CLOSED. I'LL MAKE NOTE OF IT. OKAY. OUR FIRST RESOLUTION, COMMITMENT TWO FUND SHARE PROJECTS. WOULD BEK GRANT SIGNATURE AUTHORITY CAPTAIN? UH, YES. UM, THIS WILL ENABLE US, UH, ENABLE ME TO SIGN ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN FOR, UH, PLUMBING FROM, FOR THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE AND ALSO THE STREETLIGHT PROJECT. MOTION. MAYOR, I MOVE. THE COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION COMMITTING TO FUND SHARE OF PROJECTS IN VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND GRANT SIGNATURE AUTHORITY, AUTHORITY FOR ALL V DOT PROJECTS IN THE TOWN FRONT ROYAL TO THE INTERIM TOWN MANAGER, KATHLEEN LA ONE THE TENS BEHALF AS DEFENDANT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I, I SAID SOME QUESTIONS, SO I GUESS A BETTER SECOND BEFORE WE DISCUSS. PUT IT ON THE FLOOR. ALL SECOND. HAVE A SECOND DISCUSSION. I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS. SO THE PART ABOUT, UM, UH, THAT THE DESIGNEE BE AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE ALL AGREEMENTS OR WHATEVER, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA COME BEFORE US, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FOR AN OFFICIAL, LIKE, VOTE ON IT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULDN'T BE AWARE OF BEFORE IT HAPPENED, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND DISCUSSED THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE AND THE STREET LIFE PROJECT ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. RIGHT. AND THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE IS THE ONE WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE, UM, WE HAD TO PULL THE MONEY AWAY FROM PAVING TO FUND THAT BECAUSE OF THE COST SHARING RATE. REVENUE SHARING. REVENUE SHARING, SORRY, NOT COST SHARING. UM, AND IF WE DIDN'T DO IT NOW, WE DID POSITIVELY ORGO THE MONEY THE STATE WAS GOING TO GIVE TO US. RIGHT, RIGHT. I'M JUST, I'M JUST REVIEWING THAT FOR, UH, PEOPLE IN LAND, UH, FRONT ROYAL. UM, SO, BUT THAT THE IDEA WOULD BE ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD COME BEFORE US BEFORE THERE WOULD BE ANY SIGNING FOR RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR SHARE OF PROJECTS. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY TOWN MANAGER OR INTERIM TOWN MANAGER HAS HAD TO, HAD TO DO. OKAY. PROJECT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. NOW WE HAVE A ROLL CALL. MS. MAYOR CORO. YES. COUNCIL? YES. COUNCIL JACKSON? YES. COUNCIL, YES. PASSES ABOUT NEXT CLOSED MEETING. COUNCIL MAY INTERVIEW. MR. I MOVE THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. AND DYLAN THE CLOSED MEETING FOR THE DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION ASSIGNMENTS, APPOINTMENT PROMOTIONS, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINE FOR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY. SPECIFICALLY THE COUNCIL VACANCY PERSUADED TO 2.2 37 11 A ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA. SECOND. SECOND, MS. MAYOR CORO. YES. GILL? YES. COUNCIL JACKSON? YES. COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS ABSON. COUNCILWOMAN THOMPSON. YES. ALL RIGHT. CONCLUDE. AND YOU TOO CAN, UNTIL WE HAVE TO GET THE CAMERA, READ US BACK IN ALL I'M I MOVE THAT COUNCIL CERTIFIED TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE AS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S FIRM TO VOTE THAT ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM THE OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS GONNA BE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNCIL. AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTE THE TOWN COUNCIL. SECOND. A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? , PLEASE, PLEASE. MAYOR CORO. YES. COUNCILMAN GILLI? YES. COUNCILMAN JACKSON? YES. COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? YES. COUNSEL? YES. OKAY. NEXT COUNCIL APPOINTMENT. MR. MAYOR, I MOVED THAT COUNSEL, ACTING ENT TO VIRGINIA CODE 15.2 [00:05:01] DASH 2 28 POINT SKIN ROGERS, A QUALIFIED VOTER OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL TO FILL THE VACANCY CREATED BY THE RESIGNATION OF FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER JOSEPH MCFADDEN, WITH THE TERM OF OFFICE, BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY UPON QUALIFICATION AND EXPIRING UPON QUALIFICATION OF THE PERSON ELECTED TO FILL THE REMAINDER OF THE ORIGINAL TERM OF OFFICE AT THE SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023. SECOND, OBVIOUSLY. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. UM, SO, MR. MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, I THINK THAT WE WERE PUT IN AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION, UH, WITH THE RESIGNATION OF COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, JOSEPH MCFADDEN, AS I STATED BEFORE, AND, AND STILL FEEL THAT THERE IS SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER MR. MCFADDEN IS STILL ON COUNCIL OR IF HIS RESIGNATION WAS EFFECTIVE BECAUSE IT WAS ACCEPTED LATER. AND SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THIS, I, I, I WILL NOT BE VOTING THIS. I WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE MR. ROGERS, UM, IS, UH, QUALIFIED. I THINK THAT I'LL WORK WELL WITH HIM. UM, THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON HIM AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AT ALL, BUT RATHER BECAUSE OF THIS SITUATION THAT WE WERE IN, UM, MR. MCFADDEN WAS VOTED FOR BY THE PEOPLE OF FRONT ROYAL OVER 2000 VOTES. AND BECAUSE HE, UM, BECAUSE HE WAS, UH, IN A DEMOCRAT PROCESS, WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, I FELT, FEEL AS THOUGH I SHOULD, UM, SUPPORT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED. SO, THAT'S ALL. ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD VERY STRONG CANDIDATES WHO APPLIED FOR THE APPOINTMENT, AND IT VERY WELL COULD BE CONSIDERED THE HARDEST VOTE THAT I'LL MAKE TO DATE ON COUNCIL. UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO SERVE WITH ANY OF THE CANDIDATES THAT WE'VE INTERVIEWED OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS. UM, I ADMIRE SKIP'S WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT JOSEPH MCFADDEN WAS DUALLY ELECTED BY MORE THAN 2000 PEOPLE IN HIS ELECTION. THAT WAS A HIGHLY CONTESTED ELECTION, AND IT'S HUMBLE, HUMBLING TO APOLOGIZE TO THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HE LET DOWN WHEN HE RESIGNED. UM, JOE AND I HAVE HAD OUR DIFFERENCES, BUT I APPRECIATE HIS OBJECTIVE APPROACH TO THINGS ON COUNCIL. AND FOR THIS REASON, JOE WAS THE LOGICAL CHOICE FOR AN APPOINTMENT TO ME. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH ANYBODY WHO COUNSEL APPOINTS. ANYBODY ELSE? MS. PRES, BASED ON YOUR CON NO. COUNSEL? YES. JACKSON? YES. COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS? NO. JOHN THOMPSON? YES. OKAY. MR. ROGERS NAME'S MEMBER BE IN THERE. FURTHER BUSINESS UNDER SPECIAL MEETING. WE ADJOURNED. AND NOW WE BEGIN OUR TAIL COUNSELOR IN THE WORK SESSION AT ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR HOLLOWAY. HERE. VICE MAYOR CORO. HERE. COUNCILMAN GILLES? HERE. COUNCILMAN JACKSON? HERE. COUNCIL HERE. COUNCILWOMAN THOMPSON. HERE. THANK YOU ALL. BJ, REDUNDANT WATERLINE UPDATE. ALL RIGHT. GET THERE FOR YOU. YEP. MM-HMM. , PAT UP HERE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE THINGS. HANG OUT UP THERE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST UP ON THE LIST WE HAVE THE, UH, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, UH, WITH CHHA FOR ENGINEERING FIRM. UH, BACK WHEN WE AWARDED THE ENGINEERING FOR THE REDUNDANT WATERLINE PROJECT, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, OPTIONS WAS TO HAVE CHHA DO THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION GO OUT AND CHECK OVER THINGS, MAKE THINGS, MAKE SURE THINGS ARE BEING INSTALLED ACCORDING TO PLAN. UH, NOW WE'RE REQUESTING FOR COUNSEL TO AWARD THAT CONTRACT, UH, UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF $380,000. UM, IT'S KIND OF A EASIER LESSER ONE HERE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION? THAT, THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , OR, YES. YEAH. YES. THAT WAS ALREADY INCLUDED. THE, UM, UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE, UH, UH, GOOD TO GO ON THAT ONE. THE, UH, NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA HERE, WE HAD THE AWARD, AWARD BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, SO BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. WE DID, UH, PUT THIS OUT, UH, AND WE HAD, UH, TWO RESPONDENTS AND THE LOWEST RESPOND, UH, BEING TO THE TOTAL OF 18 $18,294,904, UH, FOR SNYDER, UM, AND A SNYDER ENVIRONMENTAL. WE WORKED WITH SNYDER ENVIRONMENTAL IN THE PAST. UH, THEY DID THE, UM, PROJECT FOR THE, I I ABATEMENT HERE ON COMMERCE AVENUE JUST LAST YEAR AND DID A GREAT JOB FOR US. UH, THE, UH, ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BID FOR SNYDER ENVIRONMENTAL. UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, ESTIMATE FOR ENGINEERING, UH, WAS ROUGHLY 2 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT. UH, SO GOING THROUGH A LOT OF INFLATION HERE RECENTLY. SO IT WAS COMING IN AT 18.2 MILLION. [00:10:02] UM, THE, UH, KIND ABOUT ALL I GOT TO SAY ON THAT ONE. I MEAN, THERE IS ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT. UM, WE'RE RECOMMEND TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THE ALTERNATIVES. ALTERNATIVES BEING, UH, THE OPTIONS TO INSTALL SOME REDUNDANCY BEHIND, LIKE RSW REGIONAL JAIL AND TORE, AND ALL THOSE THAT WOULD MAKE FULL REDUNDANCY FOR THE COURT GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE ALL THE WAY TO THE WATER TOWER. EJ, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN GET COUNSEL? UM, THE, UM, FIGURES ON WHAT, UM, OUR WATER RATES WERE GONNA BE FOR THAT? CUZ ORIGINALLY THEY WERE, THEY WERE ESTIMATED AT 12 MILLION, UM, WITH THE INCREASED FEES FROM THE WATER USAGE FROM, SO WHEN WE DID THE CORRIDOR, WE DID A WATER, THE WATER RATE STUDY WE DID, UM, THREE YEARS AGO. YEAH, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. UM, IT WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, WANNA SAY IT WAS AROUND 3% INCREASE, I BELIEVE. DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE BECAUSE, UH, WE WERE GOING TO, UH, FUND THE, UM, FUND THIS PROJECT, UH, THROUGH THE APA FUNDS. WE WERE ABLE TO STABILIZE THE WATER RATES FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS. OKAY. SO THIS WON'T AFFECT, YEAH, THIS WILL NOT AFFECT IT. WE'VE, EVERYTHING'S WORKED OUT TO WHERE THE, UH, THE STABILIZATION WILL REMAIN INTO EFFECT, YOU KNOW, PARRING, SOME OTHER, SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE WATER RATES WILL REMAIN THE SAME FOR THE PERIOD OF, AFTER THE FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE TO RE, UM, RE, UH, REEVALUATE. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND, UH, BY DOING, BY USING THE, UM, UH, THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE INNI ABATEMENT, WE REDUCED IT FROM, AND THAT ONE, THAT ONE IS IN HERE. IT WAS LIKE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT TO TWO AND A HALF PERCENT, I BELIEVE. UM, BUT THAT'S NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. UM, BUT, UH, BUT YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT INCREASE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW THERE WASN'T EVEN AN INCREASE HAD WE GONE A ROUTE OF USING A, UM, OUTSIDE FUNDING FOR A LOAN. THANK YOU. BJ. BJ? YES, MA'AM. UM, AM I REMEMBERING THE NUMBERS INCORRECTLY? THIS IS, IS, IS THIS WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING? WE'RE EXPECTING 12 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. YEAH. THAT WAS THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. 18. I WENT, THAT WAS THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE IN MAY OF 2020 THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US. MM-HMM. . YEAH. UH, WAS 12 MILLION. UM, SO IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE 12 MILLION, OBVIOUSLY. LITERALLY, LIKE HERE'S, HERE'S AN EXTRA 6 MILLION. RIGHT? HERE'S, SO HERE'S THE KICKER THOUGH. IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO, IT WOULD'VE COSTED US ABOUT NINE. I THINK IT WAS SEVEN ACTUALLY. I WAS GONNA, SORRY, BJ , I COULDN'T QUITE NUMBER, BUT I KNEW IT WAS, DIDN'T REALLY WANNA, YEAH. BUT YES. THAT IS GREAT. IT WOULD'VE COST US SEVEN, UH, CUZ UH, THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE, I JUST WANT TO ADD THOUGH, THAT THIS, THIS IS NEEDED, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW EVERYBODY IN THE, IN ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AGAINST IT IN THE MEDIA AND THAT SORT OF THING, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL IT THE DOMINION WATERLINE, BUT IT'S NOT THE DOMINION ALONE. YOU KNOW, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, IT'S THE TARGET WATER LINE. IT'S THE WALMART WATER LINE, IT'S THE RSW WATER LINE, AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO'VE INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY OUT ON THAT CORRIDOR. SO IT'S WELLS RIVERTON, I MEAN, SO YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT AGAINST IT. I, I JUST, JUST REMEMBER, I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND AT THAT TIME, THAT SEEMED LIKE A LOT. I'M, I'M GUESSING THE COST OF MATERIALS AND JUST EVERYTHING. HOW DID THE RIVER PART IS WHAT, UH, BORING UNDER THE RIVER IS WHAT COME IN? UH, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. HIGHER. I, I'M SORRY. HAVE SO SAY. WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. ORIGINALLY, THE, THE RIVER CROSSING WAS FIGURED FOR 2 MILLION AND IT WAS OVER SIX AND A HALF MILLION. YEAH. THE RIVER CROSSING, THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY CROSSING WAS. THE, WAS THE BIG COMPONENT FOR THIS WASN'T TOO BAD. YEAH. THE RIVER CROSSING IS WHAT KILLED US. BJ, ONE MORE QUESTION THEN. THAT IS BEFORE, WITH THE 3 MILLION THAT DOMINION IS THREE AND HALF MILLION, THREE AND A HALF MILLION, THAT DOME IS GOING THROUGH, WE GOTTA BRING THE TOTAL COST DOWN TO, NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THAT'S ALL PART OF IT. WELL, FOR, UH, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ON THE NEXT PAGE, UH, COVERS, UH, HOW PROPOSING TO PAY FOR IT. BUT, UM, BUT 18, 18 MILLION, UH, WELL 18.3 MILLION ROUGHLY IS WHAT, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO MOVE FORWARD OR FORWARD WITH SNYDER. UM, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GET INTO THE COST OR IS THERE, I THINK IF WE, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT. WELL, I MEAN, TOO BAD THEY KICKED THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD TRANSPARENT. I THINK WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO BJ I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION TOO. I'LL MOVE RIGHT IN HERE TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT HERE. SO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, THAT, UH, PROPOSING IS FOR 28 20 $8,174,904. [00:15:03] UM, AND THAT'S GOING TO COVER THE REDUNDANT WATER LINE AND THE I I, UH, INFO AND INFILTRATION OF STORM WATER ABATEMENT PROJECTS. UM, THE REASON WHY I'M PROPOSING TO DO ALL THIS AT ONCE IS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AND DOING MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS, CUZ UH, WE'RE GONNA BE BIDDING OUT THE IN I PROJECTS IN, IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS. AND RATHER THAN COMING BACK TO COUNCIL EVERY TIME, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, I WAS, UH, WANTING TO KNOCK IT ALL OUT AT ONCE. AND WHAT, UH, I'M PROPOSING THERE, UH, AND IT'S ON THE, UH, KIND OF THE BACK PAGE LITTLE GRAPH THAT I HAVE THERE IN THE AGENDA, UM, FOR THE REDUNDANT WATER LINE OF THE 18 MILLION, UM, UH, 18.6 MILLION TOTAL, WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE, UH, UH, PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CONTRACT, THE, UM, YOU SEE DOMINIONS THREE AND A HALF, UH, MILLION THERE AT THE TOP AND THEN USING, UH, 9.9 MILLION ROUGHLY OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLANT ACT FUNDS. AND THEN 5.2 MILLION OF OUR RESERVE BALANCES FOR WATER FUND. UM, AND THEN ON THE I AND I SIDE, UH, TOTAL OF THE I AND I PROJECTS IS 11.5 MILLION. UM, THAT'S WITH, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BID OUT HERE IN THE FUTURE. YOU SEE THE ESTIMATES FOR THE SEWER LINING, THE MANHOLE AND THE MANHOLE MANHOLE REHABILITATION. AND THEN THE $2 MILLION THAT WE'VE ALWAYS ALREADY USED FOR THE URGENT, UH, SANITARY SEWER POINT REPAIRS THAT WAS DONE, UH, JUST THIS, UH, UH, LAST OCTOBER OH, THAT WE AWARDED LAST OCTOBER. ANYWAY, THE, FOR THE IN I PLAN ON USING 5.9 MILLION OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE ACT PLAN FUNDS AND THEN 5.6 MILLION OF SEWER FUND BALANCE FUNDS. UM, USING THAT FUND BALANCE WOULD TAKE US DOWN TO ROUGHLY, UH, LITTLE OVER SIX MONTHS, UH, RESERVE BALANCE. UH, BASED ON OUR LAST YEAR'S FIGURES, WE HAVEN'T CLOSED OUT THIS CURRENT FISCAL, WELL, I SAY CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVEN'T CLOSED OUT THE JUNE 30, 20, UH, 22, UH, YEAR YET. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. UM, WE'LL HAVE UPDATED FIGURES FOR THE RESERVE BALANCES TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH. BUT, UM, OUR FISCAL POLICY STATES THAT WE NEED TO KEEP AT LEAST THREE MONTHS IN OUR RESERVE. THIS WOULD KEEP ROUGHLY SIX MONTHS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, BUT RIGHT AROUND THAT FIGURE. UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER BIGGER PROJECT WE'RE GONNA BE NEEDING TO FUND FOR OUR ILU PUMPS OF A MILLION DOLLARS AND HAVE LEFT THAT IN THERE AS WELL. BUT, UH, HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT, IT SHOWS THERE THAT THE RECOMMENDED, UH, 2019, 2020, UH, WATER RATE STUDY RECOMMENDED A 2% YEAR OVER YEAR. WHAT RATE INCREASE, UH, USING THE AVA FUNDS. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO STABILIZE THAT UNTIL AT LEAST FISCAL YEAR 2027, UH, BEARING ANYTHING UNFORTUNATE HAPPENING, OF COURSE. AND THEN THE SEWER RATES WERE EXPECTED TO BE 3.5% OF RATE INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR BY YOU. BY USING THESE ARA FUNDS FOR THESE PROJECTS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO THE TWO AND A QUARTER PERCENT YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE, WHICH WE'VE, UH, FUNDED. UH, SO THIS DOES TAKE OUR RESERVE LEVELS DOWN, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT COMING OUT, LEASE RUN PARKWAY, HAPPY CREEK ROAD. SO I'M HOPING THAT THOSE WILL BOUNCE BACK, UH, SOMEWHAT, UH, SOMEWHAT. BUT, UM, IT WILL TAKE US DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT I, I STILL THINK IT'S, UH, WITH THIS BANK, SO THE URGENT SANITARY SEWER REPAIRS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T, WE, THAT WE HADN'T PAID FOR THOSE. WE HAD PAID FOR 'EM USING THE ARPA FUNDS. OKAY. AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO SHOW, YOU'RE JUST SHOWING, SO THEY'RE SHOWING HOW WE ALLOCATED THE 15.8 MILLION OF RPA FINES. I WANNA SHOW EVERYTHING 11.5 IN THE 18.6 IS WHERE I'M ASSUMING THE 28 1 74 YES. THOSE TWO PROJECTS, UH, UH, IN CONJUNCTION. UM, AND THE BREAKDOWN IS, IS THE, THE APA FUND RESERVE AND THEN THE, UH, 3.5 MILLION FROM DOMINION. ANY QUESTIONS THERE? NO. WENT OVER A LOT AND I THINK ANYBODY'S STUNNED NOT AS MUCH AS ME WHEN THESE THINGS ROLLED IN. WE WERE REALLY STUNNED. UM, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE, UH, THE I I PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING, UH, WILL, UH, GET US OUT OF THE DEQ CONSENT ORDER. WELL, AND I MEAN, REALISTICALLY PUSHING THE SOFTWARE, KICKING THE CAN, IT'S INFLATION'S NOT DECREASING RIGHT NOW. SO LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, THIS COULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, LITERALLY TWO YEARS AGO IT STARTED COMING UP ALMOST 12 MILLION. YEAH. SO WHEN 6 MILLION IN TWO YEARS, HOLY. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE OPTIONS FOR THE ALTERNATIVES BE INCLUDED BECAUSE THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THEY'RE GONNA GET. AND THOSE, AND THOSE OPTIONS ARE INDEED NEEDED. OKAY. THANKS PETER. THANK YOU. WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY. , THIS IS THE BIGGEST ONE I FOUND. HE'S GOT A TREAT, DON'T, HE'S UNDER THE MONEY TREE. OKAY. SPECIAL HEARINGS OCTOBER THE 24TH, [00:20:02] SHORT TERM RENTALS AND, ALL RIGHT, SO THE FIRST APPLICATION YOU HAVE IS FOR S PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. SO THIS IS LOCATED AT 30 FAIRVIEW AVENUE. UM, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO RENT THE ENTIRE HOME. STAFF COMPLETED THE INSPECTION ON AUGUST 25TH AT CAST. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 21ST. AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS NO, UM, ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT WHAT HE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THAT'S WITH FAIRVIEW. YEP. DO YOU KNOW IF ANYBODY SPOKE AT THAT PUBLIC AREA? I DON'T THINK ANYONE DID NOT. SO, UH, VISTA PROPERTIES, THERE'S GONNA BE THE ONE MANAGING THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES. WE GOT THAT NAME BEFORE MANAGER. I JUST WANNA SAY LAUREN, THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. UM, I KNEW A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN FROM THIS HOUSE AND THIS HOUSE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A, A LONG TERM RENTAL. AND, UM, WITH THE, SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STUFF, I, I THINK IT'S GOING BE A LOT QUIETER TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WELL, UM, LET ME THROW MY 2 CENTS IN. UM, THE SAME COMPANY MANAGES, UH, PROPERTY BESIDE MY HOME APARTMENTS AND NOT VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR MANAGING SKILLS OVER THERE. YEAH, THERE'S THE APARTMENTS. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES OVER THERE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY MANAGED THE APARTMENTS TOO. THEY DID SOME TOWNHOUSES DOWN THERE. WELL, THEY LOOK LIKE TOWN HOUSES, BUT THEIR APARTMENTS APARTMENT. SO, BUT HAS, THEY'RE REVOCABLE, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY'RE REVOCABLE. I WAS WONDERING IF VESTA MANAGEMENT, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT ANYWAYS. WAS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO RENTED IT OUT LONG TERM, LIKE WERE THE SAME MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT DID THAT, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME COMPANY. OKAY. SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE LONG TERM RENTAL THAT'S THERE AND THAT HOUSE STILL LOOKS OKAY. WELL, THAT, THAT PICTURE IS EIGHT YEARS OLD, BUT IT'S JUST THE ONE UP. THE GIS ONE DID JUST SELL FAIRVIEW, BUT IT WASN'T THAT HOUSE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE. SO THE NEXT ONE IS IN RELATION TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATION. THAT WAS AT 12 CHESTER STREET. SO IT'S BEAUTIFUL. THAT WAS DOWN. UM, YEAH. UM, SO THIS JUST PROVIDES AN AVENUE FOR THEM TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING ON SITE FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. THE APPLICANT WAS NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN PARKING WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROPERTY THAT SATISFIES THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. AND THIS, THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. THERE'S PUBLIC PARKING ALL AWAY WITHIN 300 FEET. YES. THAT'S, THAT'S THE DUMBEST THING I EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE. I DON'T MEAN TO SEE THE OBVIOUS HERE, BUT WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS MOTION THAT SAME DAY AND GOT THIS DONE. LIKE I DON'T BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE US. RIGHT. YEAH. IT WAS THE SOMETHING LIKE, SO VERY OBVIOUS, LIKE WE OVERRIDE PLANNING COMMISSION ALL THE TIME. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS AWFUL THAT SHE HAD TO LEAVE. IT IS, AND IT'S, IT'S EMBARRASSING. AND NOW SHE CAN'T USE IT UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER 24TH MEETING. RIGHT? RIGHT. CAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS, THAT'S BETTER THAN DECEMBER, WHICH IS OCTOBER 9TH TONIGHT. YES. BUT AS WE YOU SAID PARKING ON SITE, YOU REALLY MEAN PARKING IN THE PUBLIC PARKING, NOT PARKING HERE. NO. SHE'S LIKE, WE CAN'T, SO EVERY USE IN TOWN HAS TO HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT, WHAT IS IT, 1, 1 51 E IN THERE THAT STATES THAT PARKING SHALL BE IN, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATED AND APPROVED PARKING AREAS. IT'S THE LANGUAGE. SO WHEN WE REWRITE OR AMEND THE CODE, WE CAN TWEAK IT SO THAT, UM, WE DON'T KEEP RUNNING INTO THESE ISSUES AND WE NEED TO ADJUST 1 48 AS WELL AND, AND PUT SHORT TERM RENTAL AND PUT A PARKING REQUIREMENT OF THE PER ROOM PER WELL. HOWEVER WE WANNA DO IT IN THERE, BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, YEAH. I JUST HAVE TO PICK THE CLOSEST USE TO WHAT I THINK A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS AND THEN YEAH. HOLD THEM TO THAT PARKING. OKAY. WELL, I DO APPRECIATE YOU IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO ALL OF US AND WE JUST ROLLED IT OUT AND WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST. WE KNEW THAT THINGS WEREN'T GONNA GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH ENTIRELY, BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING THAT WE OVERLOOKED IT. BUT NONETHELESS, THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. KATHY, SNOW AND ICE. SURE. UM, AS WE'RE HEADING INTO THAT TIME OF YEAR, UM, AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING THIS YEAR, UM, YOU HEARD, YOU ALL HEARD FROM A LOCAL RESIDENT WHO, UM, HAD NOTICED DURING, UM, A SNOW AND ICE EVENT, UM, THAT, UH, BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS HADN'T BEEN CLEARED, FOLKS WERE HAVING TO WALK IN THE, IN [00:25:01] THE DRIVE IN THE STREET AND THE ROADWAY AND, AND ESPECIALLY, UM, THAT INDIVIDUAL REFLECTED, YOU KNOW, THAT HANDICAPPED INDIVIDUAL HAD RUN INTO THAT SAME SITUATION. AND SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM STARTING WITH THE TOWN, REVIEWED THE, UM, REVIEWED THE TOWN CODE AND REALIZED THAT RESIDENTIAL WAS NOT COVERED IN THE, UM, IN SECTION 1 42 DASH 4.1, WHICH TALKS ABOUT CLEARING SIDEWALKS DURING SOS. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND, AND, UH, ULTIMATELY TAKE ACTION ON, ON THE 24TH, IS REALLY JUST ADDING THE WORD RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO THE EXISTING CODE. I'LL BE ANXIOUS TO SEE IS THAT'S GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. MM-HMM. , I, I, I, IT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I THINK THAT, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING, YOU KNOW, I I I, I TOTALLY EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT, UM, HAD MOBILITY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I ALSO WORRY, I ALSO WORRY ABOUT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OF PEOPLE THAT IT IS CHALLENGING. I PERFECT EXAMPLE, MY FATHER HAS PASSED AWAY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER LIVED NEXT DOOR AND SO HE ALWAYS MADE SURE EVERYTHING WAS CLEARED IN FRONT OF MY FATHER'S HOUSE OR WHATEVER. BUT NOT EVERYBODY HAS THAT. UM, I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY ELSE I AGREE. GONNA BE HARD, BUT OUR CHILDREN YEAH. IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES. THE KIDS WERE WALKING TO AND FROM THE SCHOOLS ON THE STREETS, UM, HAVE TO CLEAR IN FRONT OF THEM. WELL, THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL. THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, POINT ISSUE THAT I'VE HAD IS WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS BETWEEN SKYLINE MIDDLE AND SKYLINE HIGH, AND WE LITERALLY HAVE THEM RUN THAT FOR GYM CLASS. RIGHT. UM, BUT THROUGH THERE THEY WALK ON THE ROAD. SO NOT ONLY ARE THEY ON THE CAR WITH ARE THE ROAD WITH CARS DRIVING THROUGH THE SLUSH AND THE ICE AND THE SNOW, BUT THEY'RE WALKING IN IT. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY, IT'S THE YOUTH. UM, AND I DON'T WANNA STATE LIKE THE ABSOLUTE PROPERTY, I THINK, I THINK TO PROPERTY. WE ALSO JUST DISCUSS HOW CAN YOU MAKE SOMEBODY DO THAT THIS TOWN PROPERTY. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S MY LEGALLY ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT? I, I DO HAVE THAT COVERED. IT'S ACTUALLY ENABLED IN STATE LAW. I HAVE TO KNOW WHEN WE NEED THAT PORTION UNDER A NUISANCE THEORY. ALL RIGHT, LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN. GEORGE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION MAY COMPEL REMOVAL OF ALL NUISANCES AND THERE'S A LIST AND IT INCLUDES SNOW FROM SIDEWALKS. WELL, AND THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE MOWED. AND WE NEEDED, IT'S A, IF YOU CALL IN A COMPLAINT AND SOMEBODY DIDN'T MOW WE IN BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THEIR CURB. YEAH. WEEDS ARE IN HERE AS WEEDS ARE MENTIONED AS WELL. THAT'S A BIG THING. SO IT ISN'T ENABLED TO SAY, WHEN I MOVED TO TOWN, I WASN'T MOWING AND WEED IT AND I GOT COMPLAINT ALL THIS . IT'S AN ONCO. YEAH. BUT I THINK WITH THE SNOW TOO, LAURIE, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THE TOWN'S GONNA GO AROUND LIKE TAKING ON OLD PEOPLE. YEAH. BY TIME WE SEND THE LETTERS OUT TO SNOW. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE AND TO BRING AWARENESS, BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME WHEN I MOVED TO TOWN FROM THE COUNTY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS A THING. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE WE CAN SEND A NOTICE OF THIS OUT WITH THE, UM, BILLS. LIKE WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE OTHER NOTICES. SO PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET THEIR UTILITY BILL WILL KNOW COMING UP. AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE, IT WON'T, IT, IT'S STILL LIKE SOME PEOPLE WON'T BE AFFECTED. SOME THINGS Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUS STOPS AND STUFF, LIKE THAT'S STILL NOT GONNA HELP. YEAH. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE SCHOOLS WERE A BIG THING AND I, YOU KNOW, ARO DID ALL THAT RENOVATION UP THERE. YEAH. AND THERE'S KIDS THAT WALK FROM AS ROADS DOWN TO FOUR TILL DRIVE AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SIDEWALK SIDEWALKS FOR SURE THROUGH THERE. AND IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT RENOVATIONS TYPE OF WORK, LIKE THAT NEW SCHOOL, IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO, REQUIRED TO ADD SIDEWALKS. I ONE OTHER COMMENT, UM, THERE IS A SENTENCE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE STRICKEN. I THINK VICE MAYOR HAS RAISED THIS. IT'S, IF SNOW AND I, IF THE SNOW AND ICE FORMS OR FALLS DURING THE NIGHT OR ON A SUNDAY, IT SHALL BE REMOVED BY NOON THE FOLLOWING DAY. WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY LESS TIME, UH, THAN THE 24 HOUR PERIOD. SO YEAH, I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH YEAH. LORI DOESN'T, IT'S, IT'S INCONSISTENT. RIGHT? SO IF WE'RE SAYING 24 HOURS, AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY A REALLY SILLY QUESTION, BUT LET'S SAY IT STARTS KNOWING AT TWO , BUT THIS DOESN'T STICK TO THREE THINGS. ARE WE GONNA BE LIKE AT 2 0 2 IT STARTED AND IT'S NOW 2 0 3 THE NEXT DAY AND NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S WHEN IT STOPS, IT'S WHEN IT STOPS, IT STOPS. SHOOT. I TOLD YOU IT PROBABLY . WHAT, WHAT? OH, YOU DON'T REALLY, WHAT THE PROPOSED THING SAYS THAT FROM THE SOUTH ADJACENT TO SUCH PROPERTY WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER ICE HAS FORMED, OR SNOW HAS CEASED TO FALL 24 HOURS FROM WHEN IT STOPS. SO IF IT STOPS AT 2:00 AM YOU'RE [00:30:01] RIGHT. IF THEY DON'T GET IT THE NEXT DAY, LOOK, I, I, I KNOW WHEN IT STOPPED. LIKE, I, I THINK THAT I STOP AT TWO. I THINK IT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT. ENCOURAGING IT IS A GREAT THING. I I I WORRY ABOUT HOW THEM FORCE THIS IF WE WOULD. YEAH. ARE WE GOOD? I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINT BASIS, SO IF WE HAVE LIKE A HOUSE BY A SCHOOL THAT'S CONSISTENTLY HABITUALLY NOT DOING IT, THEN WE'LL JUST SEND THEM A NOTICE. BUT LIKE CHRIS SAID, BY THE TIME THEY GET IT, IT'S GONNA BE MELTED. I DO, CAN WE, AND THEN THEY CAN FILE AN APPEAL THAT'S 30 DAYS , JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, YOU KNOW HOW SOME OF OUR STUFF IS ON A COMPLAINT BASIS. YEAH. IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD ADD IN THERE? LIKE TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT THEN, OR HOW, YOU KNOW, I SAY AN ACTUAL PRO, AN ACTUAL PRACTICE, TO BE HONEST, GIVEN THE LOW STAFFING LEVELS THAT WE HAVE, GENERALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GONNA BE COMPLAINT BASED. OKAY, GOOD. JUST, YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WANTED, SO AS THE PROCEDURE STATES, UM, IT WOULD THEN GO TO THE TOWN MANAGER TO PUT, SEND NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND IF THERE'S A FAILURE AFTER THAT, THEN THE TOWN CAN REMOVE AND CHARGE THE PROPERTY OWNER. IT'S GONNA BE MELTED HOPE SO QUICK, THE THREE FOOTER, LIKE WE DID THAT ONE YEAR. YEAH. WE HAVE A THREE FOOT. WE'RE THIS THING, WE'RE NOT, Y'ALL GONNA BE COMING IN SNOWBALL SIDEWALK. OKAY. UP NEXT, UH, UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE OF, UH, RIGHT AWAY VACATION POLICIES. UM, WE HAVE A TOWN RIGHTS AND WAY POLICY, UM, FOR VACATION OF ALLEY'S, RIGHT. AWAYS WASHINGTON STREET, SO FORTH. UM, GEORGE AND I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK THROUGH IT. IT NEEDED UPDATING BY PLACING THE STATE CODE IN IT AND THAT WE FOLLOW THE STATE CODE A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY THAN THEY HAVE BEEN. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT ALL THIS IS. I'VE LISTED OUT WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN CHANGED. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST ONE OF US. A BIG CHANGE IS THAT, UH, THE POLICY DIDN'T ADDRESS, UM, WHERE STREETS WERE DEDICATED AS PART OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND STATE LAW LAYS OUT THE PROCEDURE IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE VACATING A STREET, A SUBDIVISION STREET AS TO THE DISPOSITION OF THE PLAN. IT, IT, IT, IT'S, IT GOES TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. WHAT ABOUT ALLIE'S? UM, WELL, IF, IF THOSE AREN'T DEDICATED PURSUANT TO A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THEN IT'S THE OTHER PROCEDURE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. RIGHT. OKAY. ANYBODY? WE WERE UPDATING THE POLICY TO INCLUDE THE STATE CODE LANGUAGE. YES. THE MAJORITY OF THAT. YES. OKAY. AND THE PROCESS OF HOW IT'S HANDLED WILL START IN PLANNING AND DONING INSTEAD OF AT THE TOWN MANAGER OFFICE WHERE IT SHOULD BE STARTED. OKAY. COUNCIL WILL EVENTUALLY GET IT IF IT'S A VACATION THAT WE FEEL NEEDS TO COME THROUGH AND ANYTHING TO AMENDMENT TO THIS POLICY MOVING FORWARD CAN BE MADE ADMINISTRATIVE BY THE TOWN MANAGER. BUT COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT BEFORE THEY CAN MAKE IT. BUT IT JUST MAKES, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS AFTER INITIALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. RIGHT. THIS WILL BE YOUR INITIAL APPROVAL ON THE TIME FOURTH AND AMENDMENTS AFTER THAT, THE TOWN MANAGER WILL, OKAY. THAT'S NOT HOW THAT READS TO ME. IT SAYS AMENDMENTS TO THE POLICY SHALL BE MADE ADMINISTRATIVELY BY THE TOWN MANAGER AFTER INITIALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. RIGHT. YOU WILL APPROVE IT AT THE TIME. RIGHT. I GET FOR THIS TIME. BUT I TAKE THAT AS ANY TIME MOVING FORWARD, LIKE TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR WHATEVER. DID YOU READ IT IN THE POLICY? IT SAYS, AS CHANGES IN STATE CODE BECOME AVAILABLE, THIS MAKES THE CHANGES MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. THIS STAFF CAMERA REVISES ADMINISTRATIVELY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, DID YOU READ IT IN THE YEAH. POLICY, THE LAST SENTENCE AND THE POLICY ITSELF. ALL RIGHT. WELL SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. CAUSE THAT'S, I WAS GONNA SAY THE BULLET IS WHAT I WAS YEAH, WELL THE BULLET COULD POSSIBLY SAY, MAKE SURE THE POLICY READS WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO READ. YEAH. THE POLICY SHOULD PROOF BY TOWN COUNCIL INITIALLY AND AMENDMENTS MAY ADMINISTRATOR WITH PRELIM. THAT SENTENCE IS ON SOME OTHER POLICIES THAT WE HAVE APPROVED THAT WE JUST THERE. YEAH. YEAH. THAT BULLET DOESN'T SAY WHAT THIS SAYS. YEAH. SHE SAID SHE THINKS FOR THAT. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST POLICY THE POLICY'S. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE APPROVING THIS. SO BASICALLY ANY CHANGES WOULD, AGAIN, JUST LIKE THAT OTHER THING WE SAID, I'M ASSUMING, LET US KNOW IF YOU WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING. MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S GONNA BE STATE CODE CHANGES. YEAH. THE LAW IS THE LAW ON THIS. RIGHT. THIS IS JUST A RESTATEMENT OF THE LAW. YEP. OKAY. [00:35:04] OKAY. WHAT NEXT RV? UM, THIS MONEY WAS BUDGETED, BUDGETED IN THE FIFTH FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET. I'M SORRY. THIS IS FOR THE VAULT PURCHASE FOR THE RICHMOND ROAD RV FRESH REDUCING VALVE. UH, WE DID BUDGET THE MONEY IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR THIS. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, FOR THE, UH, PURCHASE OF THE ACTUAL VAULT. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS FOR THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION VAULT, UH, PURCHASE OF THE VAULT. UM, RECOMMENDED TO AWARD A BID TO THE FORT LINE, FORT LINE FOR THE PURCHASE. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, BUSHONG IS THE, UH, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION FORT LINE PURCHASE OF $30,246, UH, BUSHONG FOR THE INSTALLATION. $32,950. UH, IT'S BEEN BUDGETED. IT'S, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO, UM, SEPTEMBER 30TH, I SUBMITTED ALL OF, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC PLANNING OR COMMENTS FROM THIS BODY TO SUMMIT. THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THE FIRST INITIAL ROUNDS OF, UM, REVISIONS. UM, BUT THE BULK OF IT KIND OF CENTERS ON WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE BOARD. UM, SO WE HAVE A VISION STATEMENT THAT IS RIGHT NOW VISION STATEMENT FOR THE COMP PLAN THAT THE TOWN FRONT ROW WILL BE A PLACE RESIDENTS ARE PROUD TO CALL HOME. IT WILL SERVE THE NEEDS OF ALL RESIDENTS, WILL PROMOTE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY, ENCOURAGING AND ENCOURAGING HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL BE AN ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY THAT PROTECTS ITS NATURAL RESOURCES AND PRESERVES A SMALL TOWN CHARM. THE, UM, THE VISION STATEMENT, IT'S HARD. MIGHT BE HARD TO SEE, BUT IT KIND OF CREATES A HIERARCHY, RIGHT? SO THIS IS OUR GOAL. THIS IS WHERE FRONT ROW'S GOING FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS. THEN WE HAVE THESE KIND OF BIG IDEAS, THESE THEMES, UM, AND WE KIND OF STAFF KIND OF STARTED TWEAKING THEM A LITTLE BIT. UM, SO WE STARTED TO FOCUS ON PRESERVING OUR HISTORY AND CHARM BEING A LIFELONG COMMUNITY, UM, CREATING, UH, AVENUES OR VENUES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN, UM, INCREASING ENVIRONMENTAL ACCESS, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY. UM, AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT SO THAT, THAT THE, THE VISION STATEMENT, THE BIG THEMES, AND THEN THE CORE TOPICS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH ARE TOURISM, SMALL TOWN CHARACTER, UM, HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, RELIABLE UTILITIES, ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY, TRANSPORTATION RESPONSIVE AND ACCOUNT ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNANCE, FEDERAL SUSTAINABILITY, AND HOUSING SUSTAINABILITY, THAT ALL OF THOSE WERE ENCOMPASSED PROPERLY. UM, AND LIZZY KIND OF HELPED ME WITH THIS. UM, WE STARTED TALKING WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIND OF A LACK OF PRIDE HERE. AND SINCE THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST, UM, SENTENCE OF THE VISION STATEMENT, SHE OR WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH THIS ACRONYM WHERE IT'S LIKE WE'RE PRESERVING OUR HISTORY AND CHARM BY ENCOURAGING RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT TO CREATE AN IDEAL LIFELONG COMMUNITY THAT IS A DESTINATION AND SHOWCASES OUR ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, RESOURCES. SO FROM THERE, WHAT WE'VE FOR, WHAT I'VE DONE IS TAKE EACH OF THESE CORE TOPICS. THEY'RE GETTING BROKEN DOWN INTO GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR EACH TOPIC. AND THEN FROM THERE, I BREAK THAT DOWN INTO ACTION ITEMS AND POLICIES. UM, AND THAT WILL BASICALLY CREATE A, BASICALLY A GIANT SPREADSHEET OUT OF THE COMP PLAN. AND THESE WILL BE ACTION ITEMS THAT I CAN IN THE FUTURE BRING TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, OKAY, THIS YEAR, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, OR THESE ARE THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ENACTING IN OUR DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF GET US TO THAT ULTIMATE VISION. UM, BUT A LOT OF THESE TOPICS HERE, THESE ARE IN LINE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED. SO WE HAD OVER 350 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COMPLETE SURVEYS AND GIVE US INPUT. AND A LOT OF THE THEMES ARE WHAT WE PULLED OUT OF THAT INFORMATION. UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? KINDA JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT. I LIKE THAT THOUGH. IT WAS HERE LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS IN THE ROOM [00:40:01] AND I WAS WONDERING, FIGURE IT OUT. LIKE WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? YOU ALMOST ERASED RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING . GOOD BIT OF WORK. IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE LAUREN. I'LL BE IN TOUCH TOO. CUZ WHILE WAS AT VML THIS WEEK, UM, WE DISCUSSED THINGS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND HOW THEY'VE DONE LIKE TEACHER HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE CERTAIN PERCENTAGE IS MADE FOR CERTAIN INCOME BRACKETS AND THEN THE OTHER IS WHATEVER. RIGHT? LIKE AN 80 20 SPLIT. YEAH. AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I JUST WANNA REITERATE, STATE CODE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE CHAPTER DEDICATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND SO, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW, AMBER WAS THERE. WE WENT TO THAT REVITALIZE OR DIE. WE DO HAVE A, A HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM HERE. YEAH. WE, YOU KNOW, ALICE FAMILIES. THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF YOUR STAFF THAT YOU HAVE WORKING HERE THIS TOWN FALL INTO THAT ALICE, UM, I GUESS BRACKET. UM, BUT I THINK, AND THAT TOO, I THINK WAS WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF TALK TO STAFF THAT HAVE A LOT OF THEM THAT HAVE GROWN UP HERE, LIVED HERE, THEY WORK HERE, AND KIND OF WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE THEMES? AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WASN'T QUITE MATCHING UP, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND, AND I THINK WHERE WE NEED TO GO. SO THE CHANGE IN THE LIFELONG COMMUNITY TO AN IDEAL LIFELONG COMMUNITY TO GET THE EYE IN THERE. YEAH. WE CAN. YEAH. YEAH. THE EYES. UNDERLINE EYES. YEAH. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT THAT IDEA YEAH. BUT I MEAN, LIFELONG COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT FOR ROYAL TO BE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT IT TO BE A PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T TELL YOUR KIDS, HEY, WHEN YOU TURN 18, GET OUTTA HERE. ABSOLUTELY. YOU WANT IT TO BE A PLACE THAT THEY, THEY CAN COME BACK TO COME BACK HOME OR STAY. YEAH. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT, IF WE HAVE GOOD TRANSPORTATION WITH SOME GOOD SCHOOLS, WE HAVE JOBS. THIS IS A PLACE THAT YOU CAN ALL, ALL IS HERE. THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. THAT'S NICE. VERY GOOD. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . OKAY. NEXT. FREEDOM, KATHY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AUGUST 8TH, UH, 2022, WORK SESSION COUNCIL REQUESTED A FUTURE WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS, UH, KIND OF THE SETUP AND THE SUPPORT OF THE FRONT ROYAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FRIDA, UH, AT SEC AT THE SEPTEMBER 12TH WORK SESSION, UH, COUNCIL DESIGNATED THIS EVENING, UM, FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO TAKE PLACE. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE TOWN, UM, AS IT'S ENABLED BY THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AND GOVERNED BY THE TOWN CODE, HAS CONTROL OF ITS LAND USE WATER, SEWER, AND ELECTRIC UTILITIES. AS SUCH, IT HAS THE MEANS TO GUIDE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING ECONO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES AND WITHIN THE, UM, THE 5 22 CORRIDOR AS WELL. UH, WITH THE UTILITIES, UH, THE TOWN'S ABILITY TO GUIDE, CONTROL OR ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES IS NOT RELIANT ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. UM, HOWEVER, IN 2021, THE TOWN BEGAN THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING, UH, IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AS A RESULT, UH, RITA, UM, WAS ESTABLISHED AND BEGAN MEETING BACK IN JANUARY OF 2022. UM, CURRENT CONCERNS, UM, THAT HAVE, UM, ARISEN IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE TOWN'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE SETUP IS CURRENTLY INCOMPLETE. UM, THERE'S NO FEDERAL IDEA ESTABLISHED. THERE ARE RESULTING IN REQUIRED ACCOUNTS AND SO FORTH HAVE NOT BEEN SET UP. UH, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BYLAWS IN CHAPTER 16 OF THE TOWN CODE. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROLE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WAS NOT ESTABLISHED OR DEFINED, UM, IN EITHER, UH, STAFF SUPPORT, UM, FOR THE MEETINGS HAS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE ED BYLAWS, HOWEVER, NOT BACKED UP, UM, BEEN SUPPORTED BY TOWN CODE. AND THE QUESTION, UM, THAT WAS RACE, UM, BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE LEGAL REVIEW WAS, WAS, AS YOU KNOW, UH, FRIDA WAS CREATED, GOING AND GOING FORWARD. UM, FINALLY, UM, THE ISSUE OF STAFF SUPPORT BEING DESIGNATED AND REQUIRED TO SUPPORT FRIDA. UM, CURRENTLY TOWN STAFF IS SUPPORTING SIX OTHER BOARDS, UM, WITH FRIDA. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, THAT'S SEVEN BOARDS, UM, WHERE STAFF IS, IS PREPARING AGENDA PACKETS, ADVERTISING MEETINGS, PROVIDING MINUTES VIDEO FOR EACH MEETING, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIRED WORK PRODUCTS THAT THAT RESULT. AND SO, I MEAN, FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT, UM, UM, AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME OTHER BOARDS. SO I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, TASKING, PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THAT, OR YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING STAFF WITH THAT OR THE TOWN CLERK, WE NEED TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE SUPPORT LEVEL OR DESIRED SUPPORT LEVEL IS, IS FROM COUNCIL. UM, RECENT EVENTS, UM, AS I STAYED IN THE COVER SHEET, HAVE I THINK KIND OF GIVEN [00:45:01] COUNSEL THE ABILITY OR THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REVIEW, UM, THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED PREVIOUSLY. UM, AND ESTABLISHED CONSENSUS ON HOW COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FREEDOM IN THE, IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I GUESS, AND STATEMENTS. UM, I WENT THROUGH AND SENT AN EMAIL TO THE FREEDOM MEMBERS SO THEY WERE AWARE THAT THIS WAS ON OUR AGENDA AND THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, WATCH IT ONLINE OR, OR COME IN. WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE BOX THAT CAME IN. UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION? YEAH, MARK LEAVE. OH, COMING BACK BED TEMPERS KIDS. I'M, YEAH. SO, UM, I WANTED TO KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, HAS ANY DISCUSSION HAPPENED WITH THEM SURROUNDING ANY OF THESE CONCERNS? MY OTHER QUESTION IS WERE THEY LOOPED IN THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS SO THEY COULD BE AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN REAL TIME VERSUS CATCHING UP LATER? AND, UM, I THINK THAT IT FOR A RAISE MOMENT. OKAY. UM, YES, UH, CHAIRMAN, UM, THE CHAIRMAN WAS, WAS AWARE AND HE INDICATED HE WASN'T GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING, BUT HE SAID OTHER MEMBERS MAY I, I'D LIKE TO TAKE IN, GET TOGETHER, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH FRIDA AND WITH LEGAL WITH US ALSO. UM, I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR US ALL TO GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS OUR OPTIONS. UM, I MEAN, IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET THIS SET UP, SO I HATE TO SORT OF LIKE TO DO AWAY WITH IT. I WOULD WOULD AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ON THIS. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR PER SE TO HAVE THIS WORK SESSION DISCUSSION AND NOT HAVE IT WHERE THEY, THEY CAN RESPOND AND ANSWER THINGS EITHER. SO A JOINT MEETING I THINK IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST TRANSPARENT WAY TO DO THIS AND HAVE ALL PARTIES SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS. I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THIS FORMAT IS WHAT I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AT THE, AT THE LAST, UM, TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. NOK WAS SAYING THEY'RE KIND OF STALLED THEN THEY WANNA KNOW WHERE TO MOVE FORWARD. IT DEFINITELY HARD CAUSE THEY ABLE TO MEET. HE SAID WE WERE GONNA BE DISCUSSING IT AT THE NEXT WORK. YEAH. WE HAD TO, WE HAD DISCUSSED HAVING A CONVERSATION IN CLOSE THE LAST, I WAS AWARE WITH FRIDA MEMBERS TO UPDATE THEM ON THIS. SO I FEEL LIKE NOW THAT IT'S BECOME PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT. AND IN THE, IN THE CASE OF TRANSPARENCY, UM, IT'S OUT THERE, SET UP OF FRIDA IS INCOMPLETE OR WASN'T COMPLETED. UM, AND WE BEGAN OPERATING AND YOU KNOW, FRIA PREDATES MY TIME ON COUNCIL. I AM EXCITED FOR THEM. I WAS EXCITED FOR THEM. AND I THINK THEY'LL BRING FORWARD GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWN THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, NOT DEVELOPED FOR OVER A DECADE. ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOES TO THE COUNTY. SO I JUST, I WANNA REITERATE FOR THE PRESS, FOR ANY FREEDOM MEMBERS THAT ARE WATCHING THAT THE SETUP OF FREEDOM WAS NOT ESTABLISHED AND COMPLETED, UH, THERE'S NO FEDERAL TAX ID. AND THE HUGE CONCERN AND RED FLAG THAT, THAT RAISES IS WE VOTED TO ALLOCATE MONEY TO FRIDA AND FUND A BUDGET. WE, WE, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS. IT'S YES, IT'S, BUT WE CAN'T. YES. CORRECT. CORRECT, CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT. WE LITERALLY CANNOT FUND THEM TO LET THEM RUN. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE ANOTHER, WHEN I CAME ON WITH THE TOURISM, WE HIRED THEM AND THEN HELD 'EM HOSTAGE. RIGHT. UM, WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR DISAGREE WITH HOW IT'S GONE SINCE. UM, SO, AND THEN TO REITERATE WHAT KATHLEEN READ, THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED OR DEFINED ROLE OF AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. SO THEREFORE, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS AN ACTING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT? RIGHT. YES. AND THERE IS NO POSITION OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. SO THERE CURRENTLY IS NO POSITION TO HAVE A LIAISON REPRESENTATIVE OR A TOWN EMPLOYEE SET ON THE FRONT ROYAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD. SO, UM, I HATE THAT FREEDOM MEMBERS HAVE TO FIND OUT IS THIS YES, THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION. WERE THEY ADVISED ABOUT ANY OF THIS? LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE FEDERAL TAX ID, I HAD A CONVERSATION PERSONALLY WITH THE CHAIRMAN, MR. NOVA ABOUT A WEEK AGO. UM, BUT THAT WAS INFORMAL. WELL WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THIS THAT ARE JOINT MEETING. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. AND WE NEED TO DECIDE WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A JOINT MEETING THOUGH. YEAH. UM, I'M PRETTY FLEXIBLE. LIKE HOW SOON DO WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN? IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER. YEAH. I CAN'T DO IT THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER. TRY TO TAKE CARE OF IT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M, I'M WHERE OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE THE 24TH OF OCTOBER, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WEEKS DO NEXT. YESTERDAY THEY TRY TO DO SOMETHING NEXT [00:50:01] WEEK, MONDAY NEXT WEEK, BE THERE. YEAH. TRY FOR MONDAYS NEXT WEEK. YEAH. WE'RE SAYING WE THINK WE CAN DO RIGHT? YEAH. WE HAVE TO GO TO THEM. WE HAVE TO TAKE NOTIFY HIM. WELL, LET'S SET TWO DATES TO NOTIFY THEM TO SEE WHICH WORKS BEST. WHAT ABOUT MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY? BUT TINA'S GOT, WE'VE GOTTA ADVERTISE IT, RIGHT? HOW MANY DAYS DO WE NEED? THREE DAYS? THREE. WE HAVE TIME. MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY THE 17TH AND NIGHT. HOW ABOUT MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY? OKAY, I'LL DO IT. BUT THE 19TH I'LL PLEDGE. THE 19TH IS BIRTHDAY. THE 19TH LAST YEAR. I, MONDAY. I THOUGHT THE 20TH IS 20TH IS THE IT'S THURSDAY, RIGHT? YEAH, HE'S REPRESENTING ON THE LEAVE. HER BIRTHDAY IS THE 19TH. I HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 19TH AS WELL. OKAY. WHAT'S WHAT DAY'S THE 19TH ON WEDNESDAY. WEDNESDAY. 18. 17TH. TUESDAY. HEY, JUST 18TH. YOU GUYS USUALLY YOU THURSDAY ON THURSDAY, THURSDAYS DAY, RIGHT? YOU DO. SO AND WE, WE KNOW WE COULDN'T DO IT ON THE 20TH. GONNA SHOOT FOR NEXT MONDAY OR TUESDAY THE 17TH OR 18TH. I'M 17TH, 18TH. JUST LET ME KNOW. WE CAN DISTRIBUTE. DONE. YEAH. SEE WHAT Y'ALL 18TH. WE'VE GOT BZA IN HERE. WELL WE CAN MEET DOWNSTAIRS. THERE. ENOUGH SPACE ON THAT THINK SO. ENOUGH SPACE WE PROPOSING, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN. . TAKE A SHERIFF. WHERE THEY GO IS THERE ANYWAY. I GUESS BZA CAN'T MEET DOWN THERE CAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE CAMERA, RIGHT? BGA NEEDS TO RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SCARED. WHAT NOW? ONLY COULDN'T NEED. YEAH, BUT YOUR MEANS ARE LIKE HOW LONG? LIKE 15 MINUTES. I MEAN, WHAT TIME DO THEY MEET? SEVEN CONFERENCE ROOM. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY MEET AT SEVEN 30 WITHOUT A PROBLEM. POTENTIALLY. I DON'T WANT CAN YOU, CAN YOU CHECK? CAN CAN WE CHANGE THAT THEIR MEETING TO SIX 30? IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED ALREADY, BUT YEAH. THEY HAVE TO DO. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT MONDAY THE 17TH? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISN'T NO, SHE STILL HAD EIGHT. WE SAID BOTH. WE SAID WE'D PRESENT BOTH. LET'S STAY IS WHEN EZA AT THE CONFERENCE ROOM. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SHOOT FOR NEXT MONDAY. COULD WE MEET BEFORE BZA? TUESDAY AT SIX? SHOOT FOR NEXTS MONDAY. SHOOT FOR NEXTS. MONDAY AT SEVEN. AT SEVEN. YEAH'S. MONDAY AT SEVEN'S. BEEN DISCUSSION. ANYBODY WANNA TALK ABOUT ANYTHING? SORRY. SORRY. GONNA HAPPEN. I DO. GOOD. SO, UM, LAST WEEK I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND VML MONDAY AND TUESDAY I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE OPIOID FUNDS THAT OUR COUNTY GETS, UM, IN THE LAWSUITS AND HOW THOSE ARE GONNA BE DISTRIBUTED. ALSO GOT TO SPEAK TO THE CANNABIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE DIRECTOR ABOUT HOW SOME THINGS ARE GOING THAT DIRECTION. SOME OF THE EDUCATION THEY'RE DOING, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, HOW THEY'RE DOING SOME DIFFERENT UH, THINGS AND COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS TO GET WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, FOR LIKE THE TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, ET CETERA. UM, SO I'M GONNA BE BRINGING A LOT OF STUFF BACK TO COUNCIL FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW AND SEE. UM, BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD USE OF MY TIME. I TOOK VACATION DAYS FROM WORK AND THAT'S WHAT I DID. I WENT DOWN THERE AT A CONFERENCES ALL DAY AND SAT AT DIFFERENT ROUND TABLES TO DISCUSS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON THAT COULD HELP US MAYBE. AND FOR AMBER, GUESS WHAT? I FOUND A CHRISTMAS VENDOR. I WAS, SHE CALLED ME. I HEARD ABOUT THAT. . SO THERE'S A GENERAL, WELL IT'S A COMPANY, BUT HE ALSO WENT TO CHRIS AND I'M HERE AND I MET WITH HIM. AND UM, YOU GO THROUGH, YOU PICK OUT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT IN YOUR CHRISTMAS WALK OR YOUR CHRISTMAS DRIVE AND THEY BRING IT AND THEY FIND ALL THE SPONSORS. WE WOULD DO THE LABOR. IT'S A COST SET ABOUT 16,000 THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY SPLIT WITH TOURISM COUNTY, WHATEVER. TOURISMS GOT A MILLION DOLLARS WE COULD YEAH. WE COULD FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, UM, TO GET THAT THROUGH. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SOMETHING GOOD TO DO. YEAH. AND IF WE COULD AT THE END, IF WE DID IT AT BEING HAPPY RIGHT AT THE END, WE COULD DO A LITTLE FERRIS DEAL. I SHOUTED IT SINCE I CAME HOME TO COUNCIL, ME AND MY FAMILY DRIVE TO BULL RUN OR FREDERICK COUNTY AND LAST YEAR WE, WE PAID $35 TO GET IN BULL RUN. YEAH, THAT'S EXPENSIVE. WE PAID 35 AND THEN THE CARNIVAL WAS $20. THE KID TO RIDE THE RIDES, WHICH I DON'T MIND, IT'S CHRISTMAS, BUT YOU GO TO MIDDLETOWN, THEY HAVE THIS HUGE EXTRA AT 4TH OF JULY SHOW I WANNA START HAVING LOCAL CHRISTMAS AND THEY, BUT AT THE COUNTY OUTS ALL THE PARKS. UM, SO WE NEED TO WORK WITH THEM RIGHT. TO DO THAT. UM, SO ANYWAY, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO MATTHEW, THINGS ONE IS NEXT THURSDAY I'M GONNA GET A PERMIT. CHRISTMAS LIGHT UP IS WALKING TRAILS. IF YOU'ALL DON'T NEXT, NEXT THURSDAY, UH, ALL OF US ARE, YOU KNOW, INVITED TO THE LIAISON MEETING. IT IS AT 6:00 PM UM, WAIT, NO NOT LIED. IT'S YEAH, 6:00 PM NEXT THURSDAY AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. I THINK WE GOT SKIPPED THE, IT SAYS THE COUNCIL ONE'S GONNA BE IN JANUARY, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE HERE IN A WHILE. BUT ANYWAY, WE DID. WE'RE REGARDLESS, [00:55:01] UM, THERE'S EIGHT THINGS ON THE AGENDA. USUALLY WE DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THE AGENDA. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE TOURISM MARKETING PLAN, WATER CAPACITY, UPDATE TOWN AND COUNTY COMP PLAN, UPDATE FRONT ROW, WARREN COUNTY EDA NEGOTIATIONS, PARKS AND RECREATION YOUTH PROGRAMS, ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO SHE SHORES ROAD AND MARY SHADY LANE BLIGHT PROPERTIES AND FUNDING OF THE FRONT ROW FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M, I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ABOUT, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING UH, WE HAVE TIME TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT ADDED TO THIS AGENDA? I FEEL LIKE SOME THINGS ARE ON THERE THAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT. MAYBE THIS CHRISTMAS THING SHOW WE'RE GONNA ADD THE CHRISTMAS THING, BUT I DO CHRISTMAS THING. I DO REALLY WANNA STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF PARKS AND REC. PUT THIS ON RECORD. OUR COUNTY CURRENTLY CHARGES THE MIDGET FOOTBALL LEAGUE $600 EACH GAME AT A FIELD THAT IS NOT USED. UM, AND IN DOING THINGS LIKE THAT AND CHARGING US TO USE THE CONCESSION STAND, THAT ALSO OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE USED, THAT WE FULLY STOCK WITH THE, THE SNACKS. AND I SAY WE CUZ MY SON'S ON MIDGET FOOTBALL, WHICH IS HOW I KNOW ALL THESE THINGS. UM, AND IN THE EFFORT TO PREVENT DRUG USE IN OUR KIDS, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU DO THAT IS GETTING THEM INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE SPORTS. THEY GET INTERACTION WITH THOSE GOOD COACHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE INTO THE PUBLIC FIELD. SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE PAYING BKU BUCKS FOR FIELD. THAT'S NOT BEING WELL WELL WHAT I MEAN THAT CAUSES ALSO WHAT'S THE UH, UH, THE FEE FOR SIGN UP FEES OR SIGN UP FEES ARE $139. AND WE ALSO MAN THAT CONCESSION STAND BY THE WAY, WHICH I THINK THEY CHARGE US $190 TO RENT THE CONCESSION STANDS FOR EACH GAME. I WANNA SAY EACH GAME YOU HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR UNIFORMS OR STUFF. UM, NO, YOU DO HAVE TO BUY YOUR OWN CLEATS THOUGH. UM, THEY DO PROVIDE THE PADS AND THE OTHER STUFF WHICH HAVE TO BE RECONDITIONED. YEAH, THEY HAVE TO BE. AND THE HELMETS HAVE TO BE PRECONDITIONED, WHICH IS LIKE $3,500. YEAH, NO LA YOU SAID MID, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT THURSDAY, BUT YOU SAID THE MID FOOTBALL LEAGUE, IS IT THE WAR? BECAUSE THERE USED TO BE A MID OF FOOTBALL LEAGUE THREE, WARREN COUNTY PARK. RIGHT. BUT THEN I THOUGHT THAT, I THOUGHT THAT WENT AWAY. AND THIS WAS A TRAVEL FOOTBALL. THIS IS ROYAL MIDGET FOOTBALL LEAGUE. THE FURTHEST WE CHA WE TRAVEL IS HYDE PARK IN WEST VIRGINIA. IT'S LOCAL, LIKE LAST FAMILY TO PLAY OTHER COUNTY. AND BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT FOOTBALL FIELD OUT THERE THAT NO ONE IS USING IS SO EXPENSIVE. OUR BOYS CAN EVEN PRACTICE ON THE FACT, ON THE, ON THAT FIELD. WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH WHOEVER OWNS THE OLD VFW BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FIELD TO PRACTICE BECAUSE IT'S SO OUT OF BUDGET, YOU HAVE TO HELP. I MEAN YOU HAVE TO. WELL, AND EVEN THE LIKE STANDS WITH THAT HELPING THE BUDGET. IT'S NOT JUST MID FOOTBALL. IT'S ALL OF THEM. YEAH, IT'S ALL OF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO STRESS THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY A FIELD THAT NO ONE USES, BUT THEY HAVE TO ENSURE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY INSURANCE. YEAH, THEY DO. SO THAT'S NUMBER FIVE. WELL DEFINITELY THAT'LL BE A GREAT TOPIC. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE YEAH. YOUTH CENTER. UM, I THINK AS NUMBER FIVE WHERE IT SAYS YOUTH PROGRAMS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO TALK ABOUT YOU CENTER TOO. YES. I HAVE ANY MAYBE GO AHEAD AND ADD ON THERE HOLIDAY, HOLIDAY BEST FOR HOLIDAY SOMETHING AND WE'LL KNOW WHAT TO SAY ONCE WE GET THERE ABOUT WHAT IT'S ABOUT AND NOT HAPPEN THIS YEAR. BUT MAYBE IT, NO, IT WON'T HAPPEN THIS YEAR. RIGHT. BUT I'M TOO LATE IN THE GAME. BUT I THINK TALK ABOUT IT NOW. YEAH. OH YEAH, IT IS. I ASKED THE GUY IF WE SWING IT IN LAST WORLD, I CAN PUT UP LIGHTS. BUT, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I'LL SAY TO ASK THEM ABOUT, UM, TO INCLUDE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. CAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BRINGS OUR CARNIVAL EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? LIKE WE, ONE OF THEM IS AND HAVE LIKE A COUPLE LITTLE RIDES AND SOME FIRE PITS AND WE CHARGE FOR STORES. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S A GREAT COMMITTEE. FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NUMBER EIGHT. YEAH. BUT THAT PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS, THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. ALL YOU HAVE ONE THING. YEAH. THE OTHER THING IS, UM, AND THIS IS REALLY FOR STAFF. UM, I, I WOULD LIKE AT THE NEXT, UM, TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TO, FOR THERE TO BE A REPORT ABOUT, UM, JUST SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL, THE POWER OUTAGES? UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE ANYBODY'S WATCHING, EVERYBODY'S SITTING HERE. UM, WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW. I KNOW SOME WERE RELATED TO STORMS. I KNOW I'VE BEEN TOLD SOME OF IT'S SQUIRRELS, WHICH BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AFTER RESEARCHING IT, SQUIRRELS DO CAUSE ISSUES WITH IT. BUT THE SQUIRRELS ARE, IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE A SQUI. MM-HMM. APPARENTLY. WELL, TOO, THE SQUIRRELS ARE USUALLY LIKE A GLITCH, SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS OR THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT BLINKS IN THE POWER. IT'S BEEN ALL, [01:00:01] SO I KNOW THERE ARE REASONS. I KNOW WE THERE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW PEOPLE, THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL THAT STUFF FROM THE TOWN. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE, WE ARE ASSUMING THAT EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD, UM, GETS THE, UM, GETS THOSE COMMUNICATIONS OR GETS ONE SOCIAL MEDIA. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE, UM, A BREAK. WE NEED TELL THE PEOPLE MEAN. ARE YOU KNOCKING ON DOORS? UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE COMMUNICATION OF IT. I, NO, I'M SAYING YOU'RE HOP THIS MEETING WILL HELP PEOPLE. NO, NO, NO. I'M JUST SAYING WE DID THIS BEFORE WHEN, UM, DAVID JENKINS, UH, STOOD UP AND TOLD, YOU KNOW, JUST GAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHY WE WERE HAVING SOME OF THE POWER OUTAGES. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT A LOT. UM, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, UM, WE HAVE ON OUR, UM, ENTRY MACHINE THAT IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING POWER OUTAGE TO CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. MM-HMM. , BUT THE LAST MM-HMM. . YEAH. BUT THE LAST TWO POWER OUTAGES, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA BASICALLY DON'T CALL US. WE KNOW IT'S OUT. AND, AND ALL THOSE PHONE CALLS COMING TO THEM ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO ANSWER POSSIBLE E EMERGENCY. SO I'M LIKE, YEAH, THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S THE EMERGENCY. I KNOW THAT. I KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS SAID. THAT WAS NOT WHAT WAS SAID TO THE PUBLIC. UM, ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING MAY WE, MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. IS THERE ANOTHER NUMBER THAT THEY CAN CAUSE THERE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE UPDATED. JUST LIKE WHEN I HAD CONVERSATION WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO BE UPDATED ON THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE GET CALLED, WE CALLS, EVERYBODY HERE HAD CALLS AND NO ONE COULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. CAUSE NO ONE DID. WE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I GOT HOME AND SAW THE CLOCK ON MY OVEN. PLEASURE. YEAH. YEAH. MY CLOCK WASN'T FLASH. BUT I'M SAYING THOUGH, MAYBE STAFF COULD REVIEW IF THAT'S THE, BE LIKE MAYBE PD AND FINANCE AND AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF CAN DISCUSS, DISCUSS THE PROCESS AND IS IT STILL THE BEST WAY TO, IS THE BEST WAY STILL TO CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY PHONE LINE? I MEAN MAYBE THERE'S LIKE A GOOGLE FORM OR SOME OTHER WAY TO POWERS OUT OR MAYBE WE UPDATE THE, THE VOICEMAIL, RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU'RE CALLING REGARDING THE POWER OUTAGE, WE'RE AWARE AND WE'RE WORKING. YEAH, THAT'S MY THING. CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT PD SAID ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA WAS, WE'RE AWARE, WE KNOW IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO CALL US ANYMORE. WE'RE AWARE THERE, BUT THEY WERE CALLING THE PD ACTUALLY FOR ANSWERS. THEY WEREN'T CALLING TO SAY, HEY, MY POWER'S OUT. THEY WERE CALLING. THEY'RE LIKE, SURE, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS IS GONNA LAST? YEAH. SO, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYBE JUST IF SOMEBODY HAS THE ABILITY TO UPDATE THE VOICEMAIL TO SAY, IF YOU'RE CALLING ABOUT A POWER OUTAGE ON BLAH BLAH, BLAH, WE'RE AWARE, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I DON'T WANNA KNOW. I GOT BJ YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS, BUT WASN'T THERE, TALK ABOUT THE KINDER LANE, UM, SUBSTATION WHEN DAVID WAS HERE. SOMETHING ABOUT REPLACING A TRANSFORMER OR SOMETHING. YES. THERE'S, UH, A TRANSFORMER COUNCIL APPROVED IT AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, TO, UH, WE WANNA LIKE TWO YEARS OUT I THINK. YEAH. THE EXACTLY THE, THE PURPOSE OF IT, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A YEAR OUT, UH, FOR US TO GET IT. IT WAS $650,000. IT WAS APPROVED. WHERE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OUTAGES OR NOT THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING. WELL, I WAS TOLD THE LAST ONE WAS A SQUIRREL ISSUE AT THAT SUBSTATION. BUT THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE, CAUSE I THINK THE ONE BEFORE THAT, MOST OF THE TOWN WAS OUT IN MY LIFE. ONE OF 'EM, UH, WRAP HANDED, I THINK DROPPED THE LINE TO THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS THE TRANSMISSION ISSUE THAT NOW, SO THAT WAS RIGHTHAND. SO BASICALLY, I MEAN THE TRANSMISSION LINES, GETTING THE POWER TO THE TOWN SUBSTATION WAS WHAT DISRUPTED, IT WASN'T OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WITHIN THE TOWN. IT WAS THE FACT THAT THE POWER COMING TO US WAS OKAY. AND I GATHERED THAT INFORMATION. ALL I'M SAYING IS NOT EVERYBODY'S GETTING THAT INFORMATION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE'S PEOPLE SAYING WE SHOULD GET A REFUND FOR OUR ELECTRIC. AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, IF IT'S OUT, YOU'RE NOT USING IT. SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING CHARGED. YOU'RE NOT GETTING CHARGED FOR IT. BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. IT'S A GOOD THING FOR, DO YOU WANT THAT AT THE 24TH OR THE NEXT WORK SESSION? WELL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT WE YEAH. WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR REPORT, TALK ABOUT THAT OR HAVE YOU AND MARY ELLEN, WHOEVER TAGGED TEAM IT, BUT DEFINITELY SHARE. I MEAN, JUST SINCE IT'S REALLY ON EVERYBODY'S MIND RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW, WINTER HASN'T EVEN GOTTEN HERE, SO. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. ANYBODY ELSE? NOPE. I'VE GOT A MOTION. YOU GOT A MOTION? DO WHAT? WE HAVE ONE THING. UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE CANDIDATES TO SERVE ON THE L B B C [01:05:01] A. YAY. AND SO WE WERE HOPING, UM, THAT MAYBE YOU ALL COULD DISCUSS THOSE CANDIDATES AT ENCLOSED AT YOUR 24TH MEETING. YES. UM, WELL WE HAVE ANOTHER THING WE GOTTA TO DO TOO. YEAH. I THINK WE MIGHT WANNA DO THAT ON THE NOVEMBER WORK SESSION. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. IS WE GOT STUFF? WELL WE CAN REVIEW THEIR APPLICATIONS. YEAH. CAN WE, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE, HAVE THE APPLICATIONS? I CAN PUT 'EM ON BO OR GIVE YOU PAPER COPY AND HOW MANY DO WE NEED IN TOTAL TO GET THE FIVE? SO MAYBE BY THE 24TH WE'LL HAVE FIVE AND THEN WE CAN INTERVIEW 'EM AT NOVEMBER'S WORK SESSION. JUST DON'T WANNA TAKE IN JUST CAUSE WE HAVE THREE APPLICATIONS, SO WE GONNA PUT ALL THREE PEOPLE IN WE KNOW. YEAH. YOU CAN PUT MY APPLICATION IN. YES. THANK YOU. HARD. AMBER? AMBER. OH YES. I MOVED THE TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE AND GO INTO CLOSE MEETING FOR ONE, THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE DE MOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINE OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC LINE. SPECIFICALLY TOWN MANAGER, TOWN ATTORNEY AND CLERK OF COUNSEL, PURSUANT TO 2.2 3 7 11 A, ONE OF DAKOTA, VIRGINIA. AND ONE CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL, SPECIFICALLY THE ESTABLISHMENT POWERS, DUTIES AND LIMITATIONS OF THE FRONT ROYAL ED PURSUANT TO 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 A EIGHT OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA COUNSEL MAY TAKE FURTHER ACTION AND OPEN SESSION ROLL TONE. THANKS. MAYOR CORO. YES. COUNCILMAN GILL? YES. COUNCILMAN JACK? YES. COUNCILWOMAN? YES. COUNCILWOMAN THOMPSON? YES. OKAY. WHERE CLOSE YOU ON GARY? READY? YEAH. I MOVE A COUNCIL CERTIFIED THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE IS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S AFFIRMATIVE VOTE AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS. LAW LEAGUES EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS COMMITTEE WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNCIL. AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL. SO HAVE A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL. YES. YES. GARY? YES. ZACH? YES. AMBER? YES. YES. CHRIS? YES. OKAY. MEETING AURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.