* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. STILL [00:00:01] TRYING TO MM-HMM [I. CALL TO ORDER] I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER THIS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2022 OF THE FRONT ROYAL PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, MS. PONDER, COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL TO DETERMINE QUORUM CHAIRMAN MERCHANT HERE? VICE CHAIRMAN GORDON HERE, COMMISSIONER WELLS HERE. COMMISSIONER NER HERE, COMMISSIONER INGRAM. HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM, UH, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST MEMBER, MR. DANIEL WELLS. WELCOME, AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS FOR, UH, ANY ITEM FROM THE AGENDA HEARING? [IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] NONE WILL MOVE TO ITEM FOUR. THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR AUGUST 17TH, 2022, REGULAR MEETING. MR. CHAIRMAN. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 17TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING. DIAL SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. OUR NEXT, UH, ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS THAT, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, I, I NEED TO BACK UP HERE. WE, UH, CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PODIUM TO ANY CITIZEN THAT DESIRES TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC BEFORE THE FRONT ROW PLANNING COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE [VI. CONSENT AGENDA] WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS, UH, THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IN DEPTH AT OUR OCTOBER 5TH WORK SESSION. THIS CONSENT IS MERELY TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE ADVERTISING, UH, OF THESE ITEMS OF WHICH WILL GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER THE 19TH, UH, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IMPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MS. PONDER, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE FOR THIS VOTE PLEASE? VICE CHAIRMAN GORDON. YES. COMMISSIONER NER. YEAH. CHAIRMAN MERCHANT. YES. COMMISSIONER WELLS. YES. COMMISSIONER INGRAM. YES. MOTION CARRIES. THE, UM, STAFF ARE, HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THESE ITEMS. NEXT ORDER OF [VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS] BUSINESS TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 2, 2 0 0 2 8 7, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO ALLOW A SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 30 FAIRVIEW AVENUE, UH, STAFF. UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, GIVE US A STAFF REPORT ON THIS? THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO RENT THE ENTIRE HOME. UH, THE INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED IN AUGUST 25TH, 2022. UH, THE APPLICANT PASSED THE INSPECTION. IT IS ZONED R ONE. UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR, UH, FOUR BEDROOM, SIX PEOPLE. THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND CORRECT. YES. AND, AND THEY HAVE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL, UM, UH, MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OR THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, UM, OR EXCUSE ME FIRST. LET ME, UH, ASK THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT IS HERE, CORRECT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING PRIOR TO THE AGREEMENT? OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE'S ANYBODY, CONNIE, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS OR LETTERS OR ANYTHING RECEIVED ON THIS, NO PARTICULAR DOCUMENT. DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REQUEST AT 30 FAIRVIEW AVENUE, SECOND CALL THIRD [00:05:01] CALL. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT REGARDING, UH, THIS, UM, APPLICATION BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT I'D LIKE TO GET ON THE REC RECORD, HAVE TROUBLE PUSHING THE BUTTON HERE. IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, PLEASE, TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU CAN ALSO SIGN IN THERE. YEAH, PLEASE. UH, THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, REGARDING, UH, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY, APPARENTLY THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY A CORPORATION. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. SO THERE WILL NOT BE A OWNER OCCUPIED, UH, USE WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, MR. CHAIR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THE WORK SESSION. I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD A, UH, AN EVACUATION PLAN JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THEY DID SUBMIT THAT. YEAH, WE DO HAVE AN AC EVACUATION PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED. YEAH. I, I THINK IT'S MISSING FROM OUR PACKET. UM, IF WE JUST MAKE SURE IT GETS IN THERE FOR COUNCIL. THANKS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, PARKING. YES. IF THE, FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, WILL THE PROPERTY BE SUFFICIENT FOR PARKING FOR ONE BEDROOM, ONE PARKING SPOT FOR BEDROOM OR SO THE DWELLING ACTUALLY CAN HOLD EIGHT PEOPLE. I APPLIED FOR SIX PEOPLE BECAUSE EIGHT PEOPLE SEEMS LIKE A LOT FOR THAT HOUSE. THE PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY HOLDS TWO PEOPLE ON THE ROAD FRONT THOUGH, THERE CAN PARK UP TO TWO TO THREE VEHICLES. MY GOAL IS WE WILL NOT RENT ANY MULTI-FAMILY IT'S STRICTLY ONE GUEST, ONE FAMILY AT A TIME. THERE WOULD NOT BE MULTIPLE FAMILIES THERE AT ONCE. UM, JOHN, UH, CAN YOU ANSWER MR. WILL'S QUESTION REGARDING REQUIRED PARKING, HOW MUCH PARKING IS REQUIRED? UH, I WANT LIKE TO DIVERT AT THE COUNCIL OR DIRECT COMPLAIN OR SORRY. OKAY. DIRECTOR. ALL RIGHT. SO PER 1 48, 8 78 2, UM, WE WOULD REQUIRE ONE PARKING SPACE PER ROOM AND AN ADDITIONAL TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES. THERE WILL NOT BE EMPLOYEES HERE. UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT, UH, YOU WOULD EITHER FORWARD THE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL STATING THAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL TWO PARKING SPACES WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE RESIDENTS, OR WE NEED TO BRING IT DOWN TO RENTING OUT TWO BEDROOMS, NO MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE. AND THEN SHE HAS SUFFICIENT PARKING. IT'S TECHNICALLY ONLY THREE BEDROOMS BEING RENTED. IT'S SIX PEOPLE. SO THERE'S FOUR BEDROOMS. THE DOWNSTAIRS BEDROOM IS NOW AN OFFICE THERE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED FOR GUESTS TO STAY THERE. SO TECHNICALLY I HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE DRIVEWAY AND ROAD FRONTAGE WHERE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE ROAD, BUT PER SO PER OUR CODE, THIS IS GONNA HAVE, WE CAN'T, UM, HAVE THE ON STREET PARKING. IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE OFF STREET PARKING. OKAY. AND I APOLOGIZE, THERE IS SOME AMBIGUITY, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. UM, BUT SHE HAS PARKING FOR TWO BEDROOMS. OKAY. SO SHE HAS PARKING TO ACCOMPLISH A REQUIREMENTS OF THIS APPLICATION. OKAY. YEAH. MR. WELL, FOR TWO, FOR TWO ROOMS, SHE CAN RENT. SHE'S ASKING FOR THREE, I'M SAYING MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU ALLOW TWO ROOMS TO BE RENTED UNLESS SHE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU PUT ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. SHE, I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT ARE YOUR [00:10:01] THOUGHTS COMMISSIONERS? WELL, MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA BE SEEING APPLICATIONS WITH PARKING RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS LIMITED PARKING, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK WHEN WE FIRST APPROVED DIS ORDINANCE FOR, FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS IT, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT, MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE. I MEAN, IT GIVES AGAIN AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT, YOU KNOW, PUT A, PUT A CONDITION HERE FOR PARKING ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE APPROVED FOR JUST TWO, TWO BEDROOMS OR TWO, YOU KNOW, TWO PARKING SPOTS, UM, FOR TWO BEDROOMS OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP WITH ANOTHER PARKING SPACE MAYBE IN BEHIND THE HOUSE. I'M NOT FOR SURE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY IN YOUR SHORT TERM ORDINANCE, I'M SORRY, THE PARKING ISN'T IN YOUR SHORT TERM ORDINANCE. AND IT WAS STATED THAT NO ONE HAD SAID FROM THIS COUNCIL OR PLANNING THAT THERE WAS ANY ISSUES WITH PARKING PRIOR TO BEING HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM SO DOES THIS APPLICATION MEET OUR CODE OR NOT? IF SHE AMENDS THE TWO BEDROOMS, IT MEETS THE CODE. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY CONDITIONS. I THINK YOU CAN STILL FORWARD THIS TO COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THAT THIS CAN BE APPROVED. IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING PER OUR CODE. AND OUR CODE IS AMBIGUOUS HERE. SO, UM, COUNCIL CAN STILL CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT. WELL, SHE'S SHE, HER, THE APPLICATION IS FOR HER RENTING THE ENTIRE HOUSE OUT. CORRECT. THIS DOESN'T STOP HER FROM RENTING THE ENTIRE HOUSE OUT. RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, TO USE THE, IN THE LIVING ROOM, THAT TYPE OF THING. RIGHT, RIGHT. I WOULD PRETTY MUCH JUST HAVE TO LIMIT TO TWO VEHICLES. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. OKAY. DOES SHE? YEAH, JUST, I MEAN, THIS IS COURSE THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, SO WE, WE CAN PUT CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, UH, FOR, SHOULD WE SEND IT UP TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR APPROVAL. SO YEAH. I'M AWARE OF THE PROCESS. YEAH. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. YOU CAN BE SEATED PLEASE. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE. PEOPLE TURN AROUND THE APPLICATION HAS LIMITED TO TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY. SO WE'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. UH, WHERE DOES THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR BEDROOMS COME FROM? OKAY. SO IN WHERE ARE WE AT HERE? OKAY. SO IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE OR NO, SORRY. OKAY. IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE NUMBER, UM, THIS IS NOT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. IT'S 1 75, 1 51, 1 75, 1 E RIGHT HERE. PARKING FOR THE USE SHALL BE LOCATED IN DRIVEWAYS OR OTHER DESIGNATED AND APPROVED PARKING AREAS. UM, HERE, DO YOU WANNA LET, LET ME, UH, CHIME IN ON THAT POINT, IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. YES. CLEARLY THERE'S A PARKING REQUIREMENT IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. UH, IF ON STREET PARKING WAS ALLOWED, YOU, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT CONDITION IN THE ORDINANCE. SO, SO I WANT TO AMEND, UH, THE DIRECTOR'S COMMENT EARLIER COMMENT ABOUT AMBIGUITY. MM-HMM UM, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN INTERPRET THAT CONDITION IS THAT IT REQUIRES OFF STREET PARKING. AGAIN. IF, IF ON STREET PARKING WAS ALLOWED, YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE CONDITION AT ALL. SO UNDER CHAPTER 1 48, [00:15:02] UM, ONE 50, UM, IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT, UH, AS TO SHORT, AS TO SPECIAL USE PERMITS, ONE CHAPTER, 1 48 IS BROUGHT INTO PLAY. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN 1 48. AND, UM, AND THAT IS SECTION ONE. UM, WHAT IS IT? TWO, OH, SORRY, 8 1 48, 8 78, 71 48, 8 70 HAS VARIOUS, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND GO TO THREE. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER THREE, UH, IT STATES IF THE SPECIFIC USE IS NOT MENTIONED, THEN THE DIRECTOR DETERMINES, SHALL DETERMINE THE NEAREST CATEGORY TO THE PROPOSED USE IN DETERMINING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. SO FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, UM, UH, I BELIEVE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IS IN AGREEMENT THAT LODGING BOARDING, UH, AND BED IN BREAKFAST CATEGORY IS THE CLOSEST FIT. AND UNDER THAT CATEGORY, IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE PER ROOM. AND SO THAT'S HOW YOU ARRIVE AT THE, UH, REQUIREMENT IN THE, IN THE CASE OF THIS APPLICATION, IT'S STATES FOUR BEDROOMS, BUT ONLY TWO, UM, TWO SPOTS ARE APPARENTLY PROVIDED. SO THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION, I GUESS IN, I FEEL THAT A RESIDENTIAL USE WOULD BE MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED TO THIS THAN A, A HOTEL MOTEL. BECAUSE IF YOU TELL, IF I GO AND RENT A SHORT TERM RENTAL WITH MY FAMILY, IT MIGHT BE, WE'LL JUST SAY IT'S A TWO BEDROOM. DO I NEED TWO CARS? EVEN THOUGH THE SECOND BEDROOM IS GONNA BE MY KIDS. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT COMING IN A SECOND CAR. AND I THINK WHILE IT IS POSSIBLE, IT, I THINK THE, WHEN RENTING A WHOLE HOUSE, IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT YOU'LL HAVE FAMILIES, UM, COMING IN FEWER CARS THAN THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. UM, I WILL, I I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS WITHOUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. UM, BUT INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT MY OTHER, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS THINK. ANY THOUGHTS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? WELL, SINCE ON STREET, PARKING IS ALLOWED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND TWO SPACES ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO BEDROOMS. UM, WHY WOULD ANYBODY NEED MORE THAN TWO CARS? I MEAN, I COULD SEE YOU MIGHT NEED MORE CARS, BUT THERE'S SPACE ON THE STREET. SO I DON'T SEE WHY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS A PROBLEM. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I, I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE STREET, UH, BUT THE WAY, AT LEAST THAT I READ IT, THAT, THAT WE'VE WRITTEN 1 75 REQUIRES OFF STREET PARKING, BUT IT DOESN'T STATE HOW MANY. AND THEN, UH, COUNCIL IS RIGHT IN THAT, UM, 1 48, 1 50 COMES INTO PLAY IN A SPECIAL USE. UH, WE WOULD RELY ON THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF 1 48, BUT FOR A RESIDENTIAL USE, THAT'S TWO PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT, UM, WHICH THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE IN THE DRIVEWAY. IT IS HOW I INTERPRET IT. RIGHT. BUT IT'S CLEAR FROM THE, THE PHOTO THAT WE'RE GIVEN THAT PLENTY OF PEOPLE LIVING LOCALLY ARE PARKING ON THE STREET. I MEAN, RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PARK ON THE STREET, SO THAT'S NOT, AND THIS IS NOT A COLLECTOR ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS A, A QUIET ROAD. WELL, BUT IN, IN 1 75, WE DO REQUIRE, UM, OFF STREET PARKING AND, AND THE APPLICANT HAS OFF STREET PARKING. CORRECT. AND, AND I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE OFF. I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THE PARKING AS IT IS, UH, PRESENTED. I'M JUST STATING FOR THE RECORD THAT 1 75 DOES REQUIRE OFF STREET PARKING. AND SO YOU THEN HAVE TO HAVE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING REQUIRED BY 1 48. WELL, WELL, P SECTION E SAYS, PARKING FOR THE USE SHALL BE LOCATED IN DRIVEWAYS OR OTHER DESIGNATED AND IMPROVED PARKING AREAS. SO I DON'T, I [00:20:01] READ THAT TO WHERE OTHER DESIGNATED OR APPROVED PARKING AREAS, IF IT'S MENTIONED AT, TO PARK IN THE STREET, AND IF IT'S APPROVED TO PARK IN THE STREET ALREADY, THEN THAT'S AN APPROVED PLACE TO PARK. THAT'S HOW I READ THAT. SO, I MEAN, IF, UNLESS IT SAID, UH, TO ME, IF THIS WAS GONNA REFER TO ANOTHER CODE SECTION, I THINK IT SHOULD SAY IT IN HERE, I SHOULD SAY PARKING FOR THE U SHALL BE LOCATED. AND AN APPROVED PARKING AREA IS AS STATED IN SECTION, YOU KNOW, CODE SECTION 1 48, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I, I THINK IT'S, IF, IF THAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA BE ALLUDED TO, BUT, UM, I READ THIS, I MEAN, CAUSE I, WE LEFT THIS VAGUE. I REMEMBER WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, WE LEFT THIS VAGUE FOR THIS VERY REASON SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS IT CASE BY CASE FOR THIS VERY REASON. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO THE, THE WEEDS WITH IT. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE LEFT ONCE SECTION 1 48 OF IT OUT WHEN WE INITIALLY DISCUSSED IT. SO WE LEFT THIS, WE PURPOSELY LEFT THIS VAGUE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION LIKE THIS CASE BY CASE HENCE FORTH. THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT CASE BY CASE. UM, THAT'S HOW I INTERPRET IT. YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH. SO CORRECT. I THINK THAT WHAT WILL'S SAYING, UM, AS FAR AS READING IT, UM, FOR WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS, I, I THINK THAT THIS, THE PARKING'S FINE BY INTERPRETING NOW WILL, MIGHT BE INTERPRETING IT DIFFERENTLY WITH THE OTHER CODE SECTION, BUT THE END RESULT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I I'M AGREEING WITH HIM AND SENSE THAT I THINK THAT IT'S WRITTEN THE WAY, THE WAY THAT APP APPLICATION IS, IS, IS WRITTEN IS, IS, UH, IS OKAY. SO IT'S ONE, ONE FAMILY PER TIME. YEAH'S ONE COMMON AT A TIME HERE. I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. COULD YOU COME BACK TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? I UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, UM, COMMISSION MEMBER, UH, WILL GORDON IS TALKING ABOUT. YOU, YOU SAY HERE, IT'S GOING BE, YOU'RE GONNA RENT THE ENTIRE HOME. SO THAT MEANS YOU WON'T HAVE FOUR SEPARATE FAMILIES AND FOUR SEPARATE BEDROOMS WHO ARE UNRELATED OR DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. NO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HOTEL. THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THERE'S ONLY ONE KITCHEN IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE HOUSE. OKAY. THE WHOLE DWELLING. I MEAN, I CAN'T HOUSE FOUR DIFFERENT FAMILIES, RIGHT. WITH NO KITCHEN, BUT, BUT A GROUP OF WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE, EIGHT PEOPLE COULD, COULD STAY THERE AT ANY ONE TIME, SIX PEOPLE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOTICE THAT SHE SAID SIX. I'M SORRY. SHE SAID SIX PEOPLE. YOU, YOU SAID EIGHT AND SHE SAID SIX. OKAY. SIX. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY? UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 22, 2 87 FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED AT 30 FAIRVIEW AVENUE. SECOND SECOND, MS. POTTER, WOULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER INGRAM? YES. COMMISSIONER NER. YES. VICE CHAIRMAN. GORDON. YES. CHAIRMAN MERCHANT, NO COMMISSIONER WELLS. YES. THE MOTION CARRIES. UH, WE WILL FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO COUNSEL, UH, MADAM DIRECTOR. WHAT, WHAT WILL THEIR PUBLIC HEARING DATE BE? I BELIEVE THEIR PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE THE 24TH. YEP. OCTOBER 24TH. OKAY. ON THE 24TH. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL THE COUNCIL WILL, UH, TAKE UP THE MATTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPLICATION AND THANKS STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THE PROJECT. UM, MADAM DIRECTOR, I WAS WONDERING, COULD WE INCLUDE THE PARKING, UH, PARKING STATEMENT WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICATION FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS? SO, UH, THE APPLICANTS, AREN'T CONFUSED OVER, OVER WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON PARKING. YES. WE CAN WORK ON AMENDING THAT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT AMENDING 1, 1 75, 1 51. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHANGING THAT PARKING STATEMENT. OKAY. UH, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE OLD BUSINESS, WHICH WE HAVE NONE. WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS, [X. COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS] UH, COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS. UM, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEW NEWEST MEMBER, MR. WELLS. AND I, I HAVE TALKED WITH MR. JONES, UM, REGARDING HIS 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. IT CERTAINLY IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, EXEMPLARY CITIZEN TO SERVE ON THESE COMMISSIONS, UH, [00:25:01] FOR THE, AS MANY YEARS AS, AS HE HAS DONE. UM, I AM GOING TO INVITE HIM TO OUR WORK SESSION ON THE FIFTH FOR JUST A SHORT, UM, UH, GET TOGETHER OF, OF STAFF AND, AND MEMBERS TO, UH, WISH HIM WELL, CUZ BECAUSE OF SCHEDULES, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, UM, HONOR HIM THE WAY HE SHOULD. AND UH, YOU KNOW, HE GOT HIS PLAQUE FROM COUNCIL, WHICH WAS VERY NICE AND UH, I'M GONNA HAVE HIM AT THE WORK SESSION FOR, FOR JUST, UH, A QUICK CHAT AND A, AND A GOODBYE. ANY OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS HEARING [XI. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT] NONE? UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. STAFF HAS PROVIDED A REPORT FOR THE PAST MONTH. I BELIEVE THIS SHOWS AUGUST'S DATA. SO WE HAD 26 ZING PERMITS, 31 CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES, SEVEN LAND USE APPLICATIONS, UH, FOR SIGNED PERMITS AND 22 BUSINESS LICENSES. UM, THE, I WILL SAY THE, UM, TEXT AMENDMENT FOR DATA CENTERS THAT IS CURRENTLY ON HOLD. UH THAT'S AS SOON AS I KNOW IF WE'LL BE TAKING THAT UP AGAIN, I WILL LET YOU KNOW. UM, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SUMMIT ON THE CHAPTER 1 75 AND 1 48 REWRITE. WE ALMOST HAVE A TABLE OF CONTENTS. I'M HOPING TO GET THAT OUT TO PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, NEXT MONTH, LIKE AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH, HOPEFULLY READY IN TIME FOR THE WORK SESSION, BUT I DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY PROMISES THERE. UM, WE DID NOT HAVE A BZA MEETING IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE HAD A BAR MEETING LAST NIGHT. UM, TWO COAS WERE APPROVED AND THEN THE LAST ITEM I'VE GOT HERE, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 27TH. SO THAT'S NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY AT 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AT THE ROYAL CINEMAS, THERE'S GONNA BE A CIVIC PRIDE WORKSHOP IT'S CALLED REVITALIZE OR DIE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO ATTEND. UM, THE SPEAKER JEFF SIEGLER, HE'S A PLANNER AND A CITY MANAGER AND HE'S, HE'S, HE'S A GREAT SPEAKER. I THINK IT'LL BE A REALLY GOOD WORKSHOP, BUT IT, UM, WE HAVE TICKETS AVAILABLE AND JUST LET ME KNOW AND CAN GET YOU YOUR TICKET TO GO. COULD YOU REPEAT THE TIME ON THAT PLEASE? IT IS 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY AND IT'S AT ROYAL CINEMAS. AND SO THIS GUY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN KIND OF REVITALIZE FROM ORAL. I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD. IT'LL KIND OF COINCIDE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS WE'RE HOPEFULLY ALMOST DONE WITH. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME YOUR COMMENTS. UM, I WILL GET THESE TO SUMMIT BY NEXT WEEK AND THEN I SHOULD BE GETTING YOU THE FINAL DRAFT BY THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER. AND THEN WE WILL HOLD OUR ADDITIONAL, UM, OPEN HOUSE SESSIONS AND UM, HOPEFULLY GET THIS APPROVED BY DECEMBER. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE AT THE WORK SESSION THEN ON, ON WHERE EVERYTHING REALLY STANDS AND THE DATES FOR THE NEXT MEETINGS. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MONTHLY REPORT? MR. CHAIR? I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND, SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNMENT SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7 28. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.