[Town Council Special Meeting on September 12, 2022.]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER TOWN COUNCIL, SPECIAL MEETING MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, 2022.
UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO, UH, CALL FOR A RECESS FOR APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A QUORUM.
DO YOU HEARING ANY OBJECTIONS, LUKE? ALL RIGHT.
CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER, UH, EXPRESSLY, HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A AT SIX DIG WEST 11TH STREET.
ANNA, COULD YOU READ TO SUMMARY, PLEASE? COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FROM RAMSEY, BE FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
IT WAS LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF SIX 50 WEST 11TH STREET.
THE FIRST FLOOR OF THIS PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A BREWERY AND LAVANT FACILITY.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO DWELLING UNITS ON THE UPPER FLOOR.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS AUTHORIZED FOR GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNIT RELOCATED AT SIX 50 WEST 11TH STREET.
NUMBER TWO, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT SHALL BE RESURFACED PRIOR TO THE BUSINESS OPENING NUMBER THREE TOWN COUNCIL OR OTHER DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE MAY INSPECT THE PROPERTY AT ANY REASONABLE TIME TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CONDITIONS PLACED ON THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
NUMBER FOUR UPON INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.
IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CONDITIONS OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THE TOWN MAY REVOKE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AFTER NOTICE TO THE APPLICANT AND PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME, UH, LIKE TO OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE REMOVED A COME FLOOR APPROVE REQUEST FROM RAMSEY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS TO BE LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF SIX 50 WEST 11TH STREET TAX LAB 20 A 1 23 LOT 7 8 9 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, THE SPECIALTIES PERMIT IS AUTHORIZED FOR GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNITS TO BE LOCATED SIX 15 WEST 11 TWO.
THE EXISTING PARTS LODGE SHALL BE RESURFACED PRIOR TO THE BUSINESS OPENING THREE TOWN COUNCIL OR OTHER DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES MAY INSPECT THE PROPER HIT ANY REASONABLE TIME TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CONDITIONS PLACED ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOUR UPON INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.
IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THE TOWN MAY REVOKE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AFTER NOTICE TO THE APPLICANT AND PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND, WE HAVE DISCUSSION AFTER WE HAVE SIGNING NOTE.
I KNOW NOW, NOW WE HAVE A SECOND.
UM, LAUREN, UM, I'M ASSUMING THE APPLICANT KNOWS ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT I'VE SEEN, UM, IN MY DISTANCE WHERE THE PARKING LOT HAS TO BE RESURFACED.
WHAT WAS THE RIGHT NOW? UM, HE HAS SPACE FOR 11 PARKING SPACES.
UM, IT'S GRAVELED AND OVERGROWN NEEDS.
THIS WAS ON A PRIOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THAT WAS I'M SORRY, SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY AND IT WAS NEVER DONE.
WE CARRIED IT OVER TO THIS ONE.
UM, SO THE PERTINENT TO THE, SO THE IT'S NOT PERTINENT TO THIS.
IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA LIKE MAKE OR BREAK THE HE'S NOT IN VIOLATION OF ANYTHING IF HE DOESN'T.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE REMOVE THAT FROM THE MOTION OR AMENDS MOTION.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T HAVE TO FAVOR.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH REGULATION TO REQUIRE IT TO BE RESURFACED.
AND THEN ALSO MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, UM, NUMBER THREE, THE TOWN COUNSELOR REALLY DOESN'T NEED A REPRESENTATIVE ADVANCE, INSPECT THE PROPERTY ANY REASONABLE TIME.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT WRITTEN IN THE OTHER MOTIONS THAT WE'VE APPROVED FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL.
DO YOU KNOW WHY THE PLANNING, THIS THING IS FOR GROUND FLOOR FORKLIFT? YEAH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND PLANNING COMMISSIONS, LOGIC BEHIND THEIR CONDITIONS.
I DON'T, AND WE'RE NOT INSPECTOR.
I WOULD LIKE MAYBE I'M NOT GONNA GO.
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I BELIEVE THAT ITS PART OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THOUGH, DID HAVE SOME KIND OF THAT LANGUAGE IS IN IT.RIGHT? LANGUAGE IS SAYING THAT TOWN STAFF OR SOMEBODY COULD INSPECT IT.
SO IS IT, IT SEEMS LIKE A REDUNDANT.
IS IT REDUNDANT? BECAUSE THE UNDERSTANDING IS AT ANY TIME SOMEBODY COULD INSPECT IT OR IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT, I DIDN'T THINK THIS IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL ITS DWELLING, ITS DWELLING.
UM, BUT THAT'S STILL IN THE LANGUAGE FOR THE CODE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE IN REGULATION AT ANY TIME IT CAN BE INSPECTED OR, YOU KNOW, REPORTED.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SIMPLIFY, WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MAYBE DO THAT.
I MOVED TO REMOVE SERVICING AS WELL.
ANY OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS? UH, ADA FESTIVAL GROUND.
SO THAT WAS, WAS PROBABLY WHY THE AV WAS RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE NO, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ADA SPOTS.
AND MAYBE THEY HAVE UPSTAIRS APARTMENTS THERE UPSTAIRS.
SO THE PRIOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS FOR A KENNEL THAT WAS GONNA OPEN THERE, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THAT WAS THERE.
SO WHAT DO Y'ALL WANNA DO? I WOULD STILL LIKE TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE OF RESURFACING THE PARKING LOT AND TO INSPECT AND ENSURE THAT IT'S UP TO TOWN CODE.
I MEAN THAT CAN BE REPORTED TO THE ZONING DEPARTMENT AT TIME TO BE DONE.
THAT'S YOU HAVE MOTION, MOTION TO AMEND, TO AMEND.
THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS AUTHORIZED FOR GROUND FLOOR DWELLING UNITS TO BE LOCATED AT SIX 50 WEST 11TH STREET.
UM, AND UPON INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.
IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THE TOWN MAY REVOKE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AFTER NOTICE TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? CAN YOU HAVE ROLL CALL VICE MAYOR CORO? YES.
ALL RIGHT OF NEXT SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SURE.
SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 4 25 NORTH RURAL AVENUE FOR JOY ALLEN AND PATRICK MARCH.
UM, YOU COULD READ A SUMMARY PLEASE.
COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FROM JOY ALLEN AND PATRICK MASH FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 4 25 NORTH WORLD AVENUE, THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING TO RENT THREE BEDROOMS TO KNOW MORE THAN SIX PEOPLE AT A TIME.
THERE IS PARKING PROVIDED ON SITE FOR UP TO SIX VEHICLES.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
WHAT OPEN PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
THIS TIME, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVED THE COUNCIL APPROVE A REQUEST FROM JOY ALLEN AND PATRICK MASH.
ORMO I'M SORRY FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 4 25 NORTH ROYAL AVENUE TAX MAP, 20 A 5 6 1 3 LOT NINE AND TEN SECOND, A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANNA ASK.
SO THREE BEDROOMS TO KNOW MORE THAN SIX PEOPLE.
THAT'S THAT? DOESN'T THAT JUST MEANS AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THERE CAN ONLY BE UP TO SIX PEOPLE IN, IN THAT SHORT TERM.
UH, NEXT PUBLIC HEARING SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 18 EAST STONEWALL DRIVE FOR JERRY AND MARTHA BRITON.
SO PLEASE ON SECOND I'M OUTTA ORDER
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TWO.COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE A REQUEST FROM JERRY AND MARTHA BRI FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON 18 EAST STONEWALL DRIVE, THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING UP TO EIGHT OCCUPANTS IN FOUR ROOMS. THERE IS A PARKING ONSITE FOR THREE VEHICLES IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME, LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
THIS TIME CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. MAY I MOVED THAT COUNSEL APPROVE A REQUEST FROM JERRY AND MARK.
DOUG BRI FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 18 EAST STONEWALL DRIVE, TEXT MAP 28, 7 4 42 OR 4 42.
DISCUSSION IS THE PARKING AND ISSUE.
UM, CAUSE THERE'S I'M JUST ASKING.
I KNOW THAT CAME UP ONE OTHER TIME WITH A THERE'S STREET PARKING THREE VEHICLES.
THERE'S STREET PARKING PARKING.
I THOUGHT I JUST, ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
YOU THINK WE CALL PLEASE, PLEASE? MAYOR CORO.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPECIAL MEETING MEETING.
UP NEXT TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
UH, TINA, DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? MAYOR HOLLOWAY HERE.
COUNCILMAN JACKSON, ABSENT COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS HERE.
COURSE SHORT RENTAL APPLICATION.
SPECIAL'S FROM SHORT TERM RENTAL.
SO THIS APPLICATION HERE IS SUBMITTED BY WILL AND MELISSA GORDON.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TO RENT THE ENTIRE HOME.
I BELIEVE IT IS FIVE BEDROOMS. MM-HMM
THEY HAVE PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, AND UH, STAFF COMPLETED THE INSPECTION ON AUGUST 10TH.
UH, NEXT, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL, 1 24 LEE RAY.
SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR, UM, ON AIR.
UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR UP TO 10 OCCUPANTS AND PLAY ROOMS. UH, THERE'S PARKING ON SITE FOR SEVEN VEHICLES.
STAFF HAS INSPECTED THE PROPERTY, UM, AND IT'S IT'S COMPLIANCE.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UH, BELIEVE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I BELIEVE ALREADY HELD PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.
IT'S CAN I JUST ASK WHY IT SAYS ONE THING ON ONE PAGE, LIKE IT'S 10, FIVE BEDROOMS, BUT THE APPLICATION SAYS IS REQUESTING TO RENT THREE BEDROOMS. SO I BELIEVE ON THE APPLICATION, HE WROTE THREE, FOUR TO FIVE BEDROOMS. I THINK HE JUST WANTED SOME FLEXIBILITY AS TO HOW MANY BEDROOMS. OKAY.
BUT I THINK IF WE GO TO MAXIMUM IT LETS HIM DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO WHEN HE, IT JUST SAYS THIS.
WHEN YOU SEND US SAYS THREE, THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T A CONFLICT.
UP NEXT SHORT TERM RENTAL 12 CHESTER STREET.
SO IN CHESTER STREET, YOU'VE GOT A ONE BEDROOM, UM, APARTMENT IN THE UPSTAIRS OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S CURRENTLY RENTED OUT AS A LONG TERM RENTAL.
THEY ONE ARE YOUR SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THEY HAVE, UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING FOUR OCCUPANTS PER CODE.
WE STATE THAT IT'S TWO OCCUPANTS PER BEDROOM.
THEY HAVE A PULLOUT COUCH IN THE LIVING ROOM.
I THINK COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO ALLOW TWO PER THE ONE BEDROOM OR GO UP TO FOUR AND ALLOW THEM TO USE THE PULLOUT COUCH.
UM, PLANNING COMMISSION RAISED AN ISSUE WITH PARKING GEORGE AND I HAVE LOOKED INTO IT IN, IN LAST FEW DAYS.
UM, WE BELIEVE THEY NEED TO OBTAIN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR PARKING.
UM, THEY ARE IN THAT CHESTER STREET AREA.
SO THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT MAIN STREET EXEMPTION.
UM, BUT THE LANGUAGE IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE STATES THAT THEY MUST HAVE LIKE DESIGNATED PARKING SO THEY CAN LEASE IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE OR
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GET THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.I WAS WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE CHANGED FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE ONLY BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE TENANTS IN THERE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY PARKING SOMEWHERE.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS JUST FOR THE SAME PARKING SPACE THEY COULD PARK ON THE STREET OVER IN THE PUBLIC LOT.
THERE'S PUBLIC PARKING DOWNTOWN.
IS THAT GONNA CAUSE US TO NOT HAVE PARKING IN TOWN?
WE ALREADY HAVE PERMISSION PARKING PARKING THERE'S WE DON'T, WINCHESTER'S THERE'S THREE PARCELS THERE THAT I CAN'T GIVE THEM A PARKING EXEMPTION.
UM, UNDER 1 75, 1 24, 1 27, WHICH WAS MY INITIAL THOUGHT I COULD DO, UM, GEORGE AND I TALKED ABOUT IT.
UM, AND SO THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THE ONLY WAY UNLESS COUNCIL GRANTS.
I DON'T SEE WHY COUNCIL COULDN'T GRANT THAT PUBLIC PARKING ACCESSIBLE.
CAUSE DON'T WE OWN THE PARKING LOT.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
COULDN'T THAT JUST BE PART OF THE, WELL, I GUESS IT'S STILL SPECIAL EXCEPTION IF THAT'S WHAT WE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO ADD A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN PART OF THE MOTION, ANOTHER APP.
SO THIS COULD BE APPROVED WITH THE CONDITION THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT EITHER FIND THE REQUIRED PARKING SOMEWHERE WITHIN 300 FEET, CORRECT? MARK.
WITHIN 300 FEET OR APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FROM COUNCIL.
I WANT TO SEE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
AND I'M ALSO FINE WITH THEM USING A PULLOUT COUCH FOR TWO PEOPLE.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT WOULD LIKELY BE KIDS OR IF TWO ADULTS WANNA SLEEP ON A PULLOUT COUCH, THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE, THEN THE BEDDING IS THERE.
ALL SO SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE THANK LAUREN OF NEXT FOUR AMENDMENTS, CHAPTER 14.
THIS IS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JULY 11TH.
UM, SEPTEMBER ONE, THE FOYA WAS CHANGED.
AND I HAVE ADDED THAT INTO THE, UH, THE, UH, ORDINANCE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, I BELIEVE ALL THEY ADDED WAS AT, UH, I THINK ALL VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND WHAT THAT MEANS.
IT DOESN'T APPLY TO COUNCIL, BUT IT DOES APPLY TO SOME COMMITTEES AWARDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ABOUT THE SAME.
AND THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE WOULD BE TO, I THINK IT'S 37.
I REMOVE REFERENCES TO 1932
SO ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS AT THE END THAT JUST CAME OUT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
IT DOESN'T APPLY TO GOVERNING BODIES.
ONLY IT DOESN'T APPLY TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS, JUST COMMITTEES OF THE GOVERNING.
YOU CAN BE LIKE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
IT COULD BE ONE OF THE PUBLIC BODIES AS OPPOSED TO GOVERNING BODIES.
AND WHAT ABOUT FRIDA? IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THEM.
THEY, NO, I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER EBA THAT WAS MEETING VIRTUALLY FOREVER.
THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS IF THAT OKAY.
UH, UP NEXT, F Y 23 BUDGET AMENDMENT, VIRGINIA TOURISM GRANT BJ.
SO DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL HAD APPLIED FOR TOURISM GRANT.
UM, THEY RECEIVED THE, WELL, THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE IT.
UH, THE TOWN RECEIVED THE FUNDS BECAUSE WE WERE THE DMO.
UH, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE, BRING IN THAT MONEY AND THEN TURN THAT MONEY OVER TO THE STUDY FOR, I ALREADY HAVE TO CHECK IN HAND, LEAVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT APPROVED SO WE CAN REQU THOSE FUNDS TO DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL ONCE THERE'S SET UP.
UP NEXT, UH, HIGHWAY SAFETY PROGRAM.
UH, SO THIS IS ANOTHER BUDGET AMENDMENT, SO WE CAN BRING IN, UH, 93 90 $4, UM, UH, FROM ANY COMMONWEALTH, UH, THIS MONEY WILL BE USED TO OFFSET OVERTIME, UH, FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS USED TO, UH, CONDUCT TRAFFIC STOPS OR, UM, COORDINATION, PUT IT ALL OFFSET THE PATROL ALL THE TIME.
UH, NEXT ANOTHER BUDGET AMENDMENT.
UH, THIS IS, UH, FOR CRIME PREVENTION.
WE KIND OF RECEIVED THIS ONE ON THE ANNUAL BASIS.
UM, AGAIN, REQUESTING COUNCIL, UH, UH, BRINGING THE REVENUE THERE AND THEN WE CAN OFFSET THE, UH, ASSOCIATED EXPENSE WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT ALL OUR NEXT,
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UH, CONTRACT AMENDMENT.UH, FOR, UH, KEMAN GUT SIDEWALK, UH, ON, UH, COMMERCE AVENUE HERE, YOU, UH, INSTRUCTION, UH, CURRENTLY HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE TOWN FRONT OIL TO INSTALL CARBON GUTTER.
UH, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING HERE IS TO, UH, ALLOW CONSTRUCTION TO INSTALL CARBON GUTTER FROM PROSPECT STREET DOWN TO, UM, STREET, SOUTH SOUTH STREET.
UH, IT WOULD BE CARBON, GUTTER AND SIDEWALK.
IT WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING, UH, ASPHALT THAT'S THERE, UH, RIGHT ALONG COMMERCE.
AND WHAT WE WOULD DO, UH, WAS TRANSFER A PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS OVER FROM OUR, UH, PAVING PLAN, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT EQUAL
UM, IT'S A CLARIFIER AT A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT'S USED TO STIR UP THE SOLIDS OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
UH, CLARIFIER FOUR IS CURRENTLY DOWN.
UH, WE ARE FUNCTIONING WITH THE REMAINING CLARIFIERS, BUT, UH, IT IS A PAIR THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BE MADE SO WE CAN STAY IN COMPLIANCE, UH, WHICH IS THE SOLE SOURCE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, EQUIPMENT.
SO, UH, WE DID NOT ISSUE A, A BID ON IT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ALL SOURCE PHENOMEN.
WE TRANSFERRED MONEY OVER FROM OUR I, I, UH, PROGRAM SINCE WE'RE GONNA MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT MAJOR PROJECT, UH, THE FUNDS THAT WE HAD ASSOCIATED FOR OUR NORMAL I, AND I WE'RE MOVING THAT OVER TO ACCOM CLARIFY BACK PREVENTION.
YES, WATER BACKFLOW PREVENTION PROGRAM.
THIS IS, UH, A MANDATE FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, UH, THAT WE NEED TO ADHERE TO.
UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS BRING CHHA, UH, ENGINEERING ON BOARD AND HOPEFULLY, UH, COME UP WITH A PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT, IMPLEMENT OUR BACKFLOW PROGRAM.
UM, BACKFLOW BEING THE, UM, UH, WELL BACKFLOW WATER INTO THE, UH, SYSTEM.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IS MANING MANDATING THAT WE DO.
UM, AND IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL, UH, DUE TO THE AMOUNT $49,000.
WE DID HIRE CHHA ENGINEERING, UM, THAT ARE ON CONTRACT FOR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, AS WELL AS POTTO, UH, ENGINEERING, UH, FOR THE NEXT, UH, FOUR YEARS.
UM, AND WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS, UH, TO CHHA ENGINEER.
UM, WELL, I, I, I'M ASSUMING THAT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT CHHA HAS TO SAY, BUT, UM, WILL WE BE LOOKING AT HIRING SOMEBODY FOR THIS POSITION? CUZ THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE INSPECTIONS PROCESS AND THAT'S THING IT IS INDEED OR POSSIBLE OR, OR WILL IT BE, YOU KNOW, RUN THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORKS.
IT MAY BE ABLE TO BE DONE IN HOUSE.
WE REALLY NEED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION WE'RE LOOKING AT AND UM, HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO PAN OUT.
WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH, TO COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH CHHA THIS IS INDEED THE FIRST STEP.
THE ICING, UH, IT'S KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
UH, SAME WITH THE WASTEWATER, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT CHEMICALS, WHICH IS NEXT.
UM, UH, WE PUT OUT OUR BID, UH, FOR THE ICING MORTON SALT CAME IN AT THE LOWEST.
UH, IT, UH, WE 9.09 FOR TON UP ABOUT $10 A TON SINCE LAST YEAR.
UM, UH, THEY ARE INDEED THE LOWEST SALT, UH, THE CHEMICALS WASTE WATER AND WATER TREATMENT CHEMICALS.
IT'S ALONG THE LIST OF ITEMS. WE DO PUT THIS OUT ANNUALLY AS WELL, UM, UH, TO OBTAIN THOSE SERVICES.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S, UH, FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT VENDORS ON THERE FOR EIGHT CHEMICALS AND IT'S KIND OF HOUSEKEEPING LINE AS WELL.
UH, SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS, UH, UPDATE OR AMEND THE DOMINION ELECTRIC, UH, WATER SEWER SERVICE AGREEMENT, UH, ONLY, UM, PART THAT PERTAINS TO THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT, UH, DOMINION ENERGY IS GONNA PROVIDE TO THE TOWN THAT THE REDUNDANT WATER LINE.
UM, ON THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT, WE WOULD'VE THE TOWN WOULD'VE HAD TO AMORTIZE THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THE LOAN.
UH, SINCE WE'RE GOING, ANTICIPATING TO USE ARPA FUNDS, UH, FOR MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT, UH, DOMINION HAS AGREED TO, UH, EXPEDITE, UH, THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION COMING TO THE TOWN, UM, BASED ON THE SCHEDULE THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE.
UH, BUT WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO IS UP ONE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, THE TOWN WOULD HAVE, UH, THREE AND A HALF MILLION FROM DOIN.
SO IT'S IN OUR FAVOR TO DO THIS MM-HMM
UH, JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY, UH,
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WE PUT OUT A BID FOR THIS LOWEST BID, CAME BACK FROM BOWMAN BOWMAN, GRIFFIN CONTRACTING $229,550.THIS WAS IN THE BUDGETED ITEM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.
SO NOTHING OUTTA THE ORDINARY THERE.
REALLY SHORT, 1ST OF OCTOBER, PUBLIC POWER WEEK.
AND FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, COUNCIL HAS PASSED THE PROCLAMATION DURING THEIR SEPTEMBER MEETING TO RECOGNIZE IT AS SUCH.
SO WE FIGURED WE'D CONTINUE TO DO SO.
GRAIN ACHIEVEMENT, CHERRY STREET.
UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, UM, UH, UPGRADE A NEW STORM DRAIN FOR NEW CHERRY STREET, UM, LOCATION.
THE TOWN NEEDS OBTAINED THE EASEMENT FOR THE, UH, STORM.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A PROPOSED EASEMENT SOMEWHERE, SHOULD IT WASN'T READY FOR THE YET, BUT IT SHOULD BE BY THE 26TH.
UP NEXT DIVERTING ONE PART-TIME CUSTODIAN TWO FULL-TIME.
SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE WANTING TO OBVIOUSLY CONVERT A PART-TIME POSITION TO A FULL-TIME POSITION.
SO IT WOULD CHANGE THE, UH, UH, OUR, UM, CONTROL SHEET FOR THE TOWN.
WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE OBTAINING AND MAINTAINING JANITORIAL SERVICES.
WE HAVE TWO PART-TIME POSITIONS CURRENTLY.
UM, AND, UH, IT'S ITS I HATE TO SAY, BUT IT'S KINDA LIKE A REVOLVING DOOR.
UM, OTHER LOCALITIES ARE HIRING ON THE FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
WE'RE JUST HAVING A HARD TIME MAINTAINING, UM, OUTSOURCING WOULD BE, UM, MORE EXPENSIVE, UH, TO DO SO.
SO WE REVIEWED IT IN THE FIELD THAT, UH, MOVING THIS OVER TO A FULL-TIME POSITION, UH, WOULD INCUR THE ACCOUNT AN ADDITIONAL $30,995 APPROXIMATE, UM, OR BENEFITS INSURANCE.
UH, THIS, THE $30,000 CAN BE COVERED IN MAKING POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE OPEN CURRENTLY THE CURRENT, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET IT FOR ON THE, FOR FUTURE.
HEY BJ DOES, UM, THAT INCLUDE CLEANING THE TOWN PAVILION BATHROOM.
UM, IF WE GET A FULLTIME POSITION, THE FELL PROCESSES IS THAT WE WOULD TRY TO, UH, WORK THAT OUT BECAUSE CURRENTLY OUR MAINTENANCE, UH, PERSON IS CLEANING RIGHT BATHROOM ON THE WEEKENDS.
WHAT WE'RE HOPING IF WE BRING A FULL-TIME PERSON ON, WE CAN MAYBE ALLEVIATE OR, UM, BREAK UP THE DUTY BETWEEN THIS FULL-TIME PERSON AND A PART-TIME PERSON EITHER WAY THOUGH, WOULD BE EITHER WAY IT'S GONNA BE OVERTIME UP IT'S ON THE WEEKENDS, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY IF WE MAKE IT PART OF THE PART-TIME RIGHT.
UM, OR, I MEAN, YOU COULD ALSO SCHEDULE FULL TIME FOR A WEEKEND.
BUT WE WOULD, UH, SO THAT'S, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T LOOK AT THAT.
SO YOU HAVE A FULL TIME, YOU HAVE A PART-TIME BUT YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME ALSO, SO YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME AT A PART-TIME YES.
SO IT'S BASICALLY 12 MORE HOURS, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE 9,007 OR SOMETHING I CALCULATED, BUT IT'S LIKE 30,000 MORE.
IS THAT LITERALLY $20,000 WORTH OF INSURANCE, INSURANCE BENEFITS AND RETIREMENT.
THE, UH, INSURANCE ALONE, THAT COULD BE A $14,000 SWING BASED ON THE FAMILY.
DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY CHOOSE OR, OR IF THEY CHOOSE.
IF IT'S NOT INSURANCE, THEN IT DOESN'T BE, THEY DON'T CHOOSE IT.
BUT THAT MIGHT BE WHY THEY CHOOSE.
UH THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU'LL GET FULL-TIME PEOPLE IS FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
NEXT, UH, COMMITTING SECTION 1 42 DASH FOUR, ONE A OF THE TOWN CODE, SNOW ICE REMOVAL SILOS.
UH, BASICALLY WE WOULD BE ADDING THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO THE TOWN ORDINANCE.
IT ONLY REPRESENTS, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BUT THIS WOULD INCLUDE 20 HOUR, UH, FOR SNOW REVIEW REMOVE IN FRONT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SEE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALREADY IN THERE.
IT WASN'T BECAUSE REMEMBER LAST YEAR, UM, THE RESIDENT CAME IN, SPOKE ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHEN WE REALIZED IT WASN'T IN THERE.
UM, BUT ONE THING, YEAH, I WAS FOR BUSINESS IS ONLY, YEAH, IT WAS FOR BUSINESS, BUT SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT ONE IS, UM, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE IT SAID, LIKE IT HAPPENED ON SATURDAY OR LIKE THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
WELL, I'M JUST THINKING IT'S A LOT OF, UH, IT'S A LOT OF, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR OLDER FOLKS THAT, WELL, NOT, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT FOR THE TOWN TO GO AROUND AND LIKE, WELL THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU'RE, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE JUST CUZ THIS FIRST OFF THE WHOLE 24 HOURS THING DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT FIRST, CUZ IT SAYS SHALL, UH, WHICH PROPERTY IS USED FOR COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL SHALL OR CALLS BE REMOVED THE
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SNOW AND ICE FROM THE SIDEWALKS UC WITHIN 24 HOURS.BUT SAYS IF THE ICE OR SNOW WORMS OR FALLS DURING THE NIGHT OR ON A SUNDAY, IT SHALL BE REMOVED BY NOON THE FOLLOWING DAY.
SO LIKE I'M JUST SAYING IT STARTS SNOW.
IT STARTS AT 2:00 AM MONDAY NIGHT.
THEY'RE SAYING YOU GOTTA BE UP AND HAVE IT GONE BY NOON OF THAT DAY.
LIKE TO ME IT WOULD BE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE ALMOST OR DO Y'ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT I LIKE? YOU GOTTA GO LIKE MAYBE TRYING FOR IT, LIKE MAYBE IF IT FALLS DURING THE NIGHT YOU HAVE TIL THE NEXT DAY AT NOON.
AM I DO YOU DON'T HAVE LIKE, I'M THINKING IF IT FALLS AT 2:00 AM ON A MONDAY, YOU GOTTA HAVE IT OFF BY NOON ON TUESDAY.
OKAY'S NOT GONNA BE UP BY NOON.
I'M SAYING GUESS I GET EXCUSED SUNDAY BECAUSE SORRY I WAS MISREADING THAT, BUT THE NEXT THING IS CHRIS SAID, WHO WILL REMOVE IT? AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS WE'RE CURRENTLY, WE'RE CURRENTLY STRUGGLING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW WITH GRASS.
WE DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE BE LIKE REPORT ONLY BASIS.
RIGHT? KINDA LIKE THAT'S VIOLATION IS VIOLATION BASED JUST LIKE GRASS.
BUT UM, YEAH, BUT I MEAN I'M, WE DON'T ENOUGH STAFF RIGHT NOW.
IT'S TO EVERYBODY'S WANT TO HAVE SNOW IN THEIR SIDEWALKS.
JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT, WHEN THE GRASS GROWS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S YEAH.
UM, PEOPLE, YEAH, THAT THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING IS, IS THAT I'M I'M THE GRASS THING IS A DIFFERENT TOPIC, BUT IT'S A SIMILAR, IT'S A SIMILAR TOPIC.
IF WE ARE HAVING ISSUES NOW WITH TALK LIKE COMPLAINTS WITH TALL GRASS AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF OUR GUYS TO GO OUT AND MOW IT BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF IS SHORT AND WE CAN'T DO IT.
THEN NOW WE'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, WE WON'T BE MO WE WON'T BE MO AGGRESS AT THAT TIME.
BUT LIKE, ARE WE SAYING WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND SHOVEL A SIDEWALK? I DON'T KNOW.
I I'M JUST THINKING THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF, WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PRIVAT, LIKE SOMEBODY LIKE A CONTRACTOR, YOU GO AND MO BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS HOW WOULD THEY GET PAID? LIKE RIGHT IN THIS SITUATION WHEN YOU'VE ASKED, WHAT DOES, I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
NO, THEY HAVE TO REMOVE, THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR THEY'RE THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THEIR OWN SNOW.
YOU CAN PAY SOMEBODY TO COMING TO DO IT FOR YOU.
YOU CAN PAY SOMEBODY TO DO IT, OR YOU DO IT YOURSELF.
BUT AFTER THAT, I MEAN, IT SAYS, AND SEE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS HAPPENS.
IT SAYS THE TOWN MANAGER MAY CALL SUCH SNOW AIR MAY AND OR ICE TO BE REMOVED.
AND THE EXPENSE THEREOF SHALL BE CHARGED TO SUCH OWNER MAY IF WE HAVE THE MAN UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME SITUATION AS THE GRASS.
I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE IF WE CAN'T.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T BACK IT UP, OUTSOURCE IT.
I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUTSOURCING THE GRASS, BUT WE HAVE TROUBLE CURRENTLY.
LIKE YOU SAID, GETTING A CONTRACTOR DUE THE GRASS.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T, IT COULDN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
UM, IT'S JUST ALL BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFF OR CONTRACTORS, RIGHT.
I'M NOT THE FAVOR OF IT AT ALL.
THAT'S MY OPINION ON HOW THE VOTE.
IT MAYBE SHOCK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT, UH, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS OUT IN THE STREET WHEN THERE'S SNOW OUT.
AND, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FIND THIS TO BE LESS ARDUOUS FOR PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE ELDERLY AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T EXPECT SOMEBODY LY TO GET OUT THERE AND, AND DO IT.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HELP THESE PEOPLE.
WELL, MAYBE A VOLUNTEER COMMITTEE, MAYBE A COUPLE TEENAGERS WHO WANT SOMETHING TO DO.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
I PAID THEM TO MAKE NO MISTAKE.
MY WHOLE DEFINITELY NEED, BUT I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO FALL INTO THE THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING, WE'RE SEEING UGLY PEOPLE GETTING FINED OR NOTICED AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I THINK THE INTENT BEHIND IT IS GOOD.
AND I THINK THAT IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO ENCOURAGE IT.
UM, BUT WITH THE SAME NOTE, THE ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET THROUGH WHO HAVE NO OTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THEM TOO.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S A NECESS IT'S WE HAVE KIDS WALKING IN THE ROAD TO, AND FROM SCHOOL.
PEOPLE AREN'T CLEARING THEIR CYCLE.
I MEAN, I SEE IT AS AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO IMPLEMENT IT.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME DISCRETION AS WELL ABOUT IF YOU FIND OUT SOMEBODY'S ELIGIBLE, IT'S REALLY A GOOD CITIZEN TYPE ORDINANCE.
I MEAN, LIKE ALL THE OTHER ORDINANCES WE DON'T ENFORCE, THERE'S NO PENALTY, PROVISION, UH, SIDEWALKS ARE ON TOWN, PROPERTY, SIDEWALKS ARE
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IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW.
AND I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS IS AWARENESS BECAUSE WHEN I MOVED TO TOWN, I DIDN'T KNOW.
AND SOMEBODY WALKED BY AND I WASN'T EVEN MOWING THE LITTLE STRIP OUT THERE, YOU KNOW? AND THEY WERE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I WAS LIKE, THAT'S THE TOWN I KNOW, STRIP.
AND THEN THE LITTLE FAIR BE, YEAH, NOT ME THE BARE MINIMUM.
SO I HAD NO IDEA THAT I HAD TO CLEAR IT AND WE HAD AN ICE STORM AS SOON AS I MOVED TO TOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO.
SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF CODES THAT I WAS OPPOSED TO HAVING WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL THAT AREN'T ENFORCED.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHY DO WE HAVE CODES THAT WE DON'T ENFORCE? BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST MAYBE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC OF THEIR DUTIES.
AND IF YOU CAN DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT.
IF YOU CAN'T, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT COMING TO TAKE YOUR HOUSE.
THERE'S NO FINE OR ANYTHING INVOLVED IN THAT'S ON A LOT OF THE CODES THOUGH.
IT'S FOR AWARENESS OR I SEE, I WOULD'VE MOVED IT FORWARD, LIKE MY VOTE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LIKE, OKAY, GO BEAT UP THE OLD PEOPLE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK THOUGH? I'M SORRY.
I THOUGHT OF THAT, LIKE THE WHOLE GRASS, LIKE THE WHOLE GRASPING CHARGE PEOPLE.
HOW DOES IT WORK? DOES IT ELECTRIC BILL? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
DOES IT GO TO THEIR ELECTRIC BILL? GO TO THEIR TAXES BILL? WE PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
OH, THE, UM, WE SENT PLENTY OF NOTIFICATION BEFORE GETS TO THAT POINT.
THERE'S A LIEN PLACED ON THE PROPERTY AND SOME PROPERTIES THERE'S, IT'S LEANED YEAR AFTER YEAR.
UM, AND UH, AFTER TIME AFTER TIME, UM, AND IT REMAINS ON THERE.
OTHERS WILL PAY THE BILL AS SOON AS WE SEND THIS.
AND I, I ONLY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LONGER IN PORT.
LAUREN KNOWS PEOPLE BE REACHING OUT TO ME ABOUT PEOPLE, NOT THIS, YOU KNOW, FOOT, TALL GRASS BESIDE OF THEIR HOUSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I WASN'T SURE HOW THE GRASS WORKS ANYWAY.
SO MOVING FORWARD, UM, UPDATE ON EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE, SHARON.
SO WE GOT NOTIFIED TWO WEEKS AGO THAT BNOT HAS MOVED UP A REVENUE SHARING FOR EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE, WHICH IS A GOOD AND A BAD THING.
GOOD THING IS, IS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, UH, WILLING TO PONY UP A 1.5 MILLION 1.5 MILLION.
AND IS, IS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE THREE, FOUR YEARS TO, UH, START ACCRUING THIS MONEY ASIDE.
WE STARTED SENDING MONEY ASIDE AND THE CURRENT HERE IS BUDGET OF $500,000, UH, HOPE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR HERE IN THE FUTURE BUDGETS, UH, LEADING UP TO FISCAL YEAR 27, 28, UM, NOTIFIED, LIKE I SAY, TWO WEEKS AGO THAT VIDO, UH, RECEIVED FUNDS FROM, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, THAT THEY'RE DISPERSING AND RAMPING UP SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS.
UH, THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE WAS MOVED TO THE TOP OF THE LIST, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DONE ON IT ALREADY.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS TAKE, UH, BASICALLY THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE SET ASIDE FOR PAVING BACK IN MAY OR JUNE TO ADVANCE THE PAVING PROGRAM, UH, PUT THAT MONEY OVER FOR, UH, UM, GETTING THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE DONE ALONG WITH THE $500,000 THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
UM, AND THEN THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD BUDGET FOR THE EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WE WOULD PUT THAT BACK TOWARD PAVING, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, UH, IF COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH THIS.
SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD ASK COUNSEL TO APPROVE NEXT MONTH.
UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT AGREEMENT HERE IN JUST A COUPLE WEEKS FROM, UH, VDI, BUT, UH, WE WOULDN'T APPROVE IT IN OCTOBER, UM, TO ACCEPT THE REVENUE SHARING.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY, AND BJ ALREADY KNOWS THIS.
MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS NO KICKING AND SCREAMING.
NO, BECAUSE OF THE PAVING, BECAUSE THAT'S HUGE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE'RE A ROCK HARD PLACE.
SO WE CAN'T LIKE TURN DOWN 1.5 MILLION, BUT RIGHT.
WHY WOULD YOU, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT THEY PAID, BUT I HATE THAT WE'VE TOLD CITIZENS IN JUNE THAT WE ARE GONNA, BUT THEY FIXED ROYAL AVENUE AND I ZERO COMPLAINING ABOUT THE, I DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE MY BALL JOINT PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING WILL STILL MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ADVANCE IT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADVANCE IT ONCE WE GET TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, BECAUSE THE MONEY WE WOULD'VE SET ASIDE FOR, UM, A STREET BRIDGE WOULD GO TOWARD PAVING.
UM, SO WE'RE KIND OF PUSHING THAT OFF A YEAR.
UNFORTUNATELY, I LIKED A LOT OF THE SIDE STREETS THAT ARE BEING DONE WITH THE CURB AND THE PAVING.
EVERYTHING LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER.
THE, UH, AND, UM, WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT OUR CONTRACTORS NOW HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE GETTING CONCRETE, SO THEY'RE A LITTLE DELAYED, BUT THEY'RE GONNA GET BACK ON
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AS YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE SHARING FROM THE STATE, UM, IS THERE HELP ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GO ON THE BOND MARKET FOR THAT? OR IS THIS MONEY WE HAVE TO HAVE UPFRONT RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE TO HAVE IT FRONT RIGHT NOW? OF COURSE.SO YEAH, I MEAN, IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY ALLOCATED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE, IN ORDER TO HAVE THE, THE REVENUE SHARING.
I DON'T WANNA SEE THE PAVING GO TO THE BACK BURN THOUGH.
I MEAN, I, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT FALL BEHIND QUESTION.
WE'RE MAKING SUCH DON'T WE LOSE THAT ONE AND HALF MILLION DOLLARS IF WE DON'T USE IT AND THEY PRESENT IT TO US.
AND MY OTHER THING IS LIKE, KNOWING THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT OF THAT BRIDGE, RIGHT? LIKE YOUR CITIZENS ARE A LOT SAFER DRIVING ON THOSE, NOT NEWLY PAID ROADS AND THEIR RIGHT STREET BRIDGE.
SO FOR SAFETY AND THAT'S CAUSING, THAT'S CAUSING ALL A LOT HIGHER THAT'S CAUSING ALL MY NEXT QUESTION WAS RICH.
SPEAKING OF THE PAVING IMPLEMENTATION, MOVING FORWARD, I PASSED ANOTHER SPOT TODAY.
MADE ME WONDER, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON LIKE THE SPOTS WHERE THE LINES GOT SCRAPED DOWN FROM YES.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A, WE'RE ON TOP OF THAT.
UM, I PASSED THE STOPLIGHT TODAY, YOU KNOW, THAT HAD LIKE NO WHITE STOP MARK.
SO IT'S THAT FOR? I KNOW, BUT I WANTED MAKE SURE THAT WAS PART OF THE PAVING PROGRAM.
THAT'S STILL GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE NOT GONNA THAT'S THEM THAT'S BECAUSE THAT COMPANY MESSED UP, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO FIX IT.
AND THAT COMPANY'S NO LONGER WORKING.
UNTIL WE UNW OR THE COMPANY WAS FIRED AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIX IT OURSELVES.
WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, A NEW BID ON THE STREET HERE.
FINGERS CROSSED MAYBE WITHIN A MONTH.
AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT IS A LONG PROCESS AND IT HASN'T, WE HAVEN'T DROPPED THE BALL.
SO THE BRIDGE, WHY THEY KNEELED THAT UP THE BRIDGE.
I JUST WANNA SAY, BECAUSE I ALREADY ASKED BJ THIS QUESTION, BUT CHRIS ASKED IT TO JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER.
WELL, BECAUSE THEN REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE HAVING ALL THAT TROUBLE BEFORE THEY TOOK US DOWN THERE AND SHOWED US HOW EVERYTHING WAS.
BUT BJ SAYS IT WILL BE LIKE, UH, OVER BY CER ROAD.
SO IT'LL BE RAISED, IT'LL BE RAISED UP.
LOOK, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL REPAYING STILL FINISH.
TAKE US A BREAK ALL UP NEXT RESOLUTION, UH, ENERGY SCHEDULE FOR LOCUS RIDGE WIND FARM POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
UM, ON AUGUST 15TH, THE POWER SUPPLY TEAM FROM AM REACHED OUT AND OFFERED US TO, TO SIGN ON FOR THIS PPA, FOR THE, UM, LOCUS RIDGE WIND FARM PROJECT.
THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE COMMIT TO A TWO MEGAWATT PURCHASE OF THAT WOULD COST $47 AND 50 CENTS PER MEGAWATT, WHICH IS VERY LOW COMPARED TO THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY.
RIGHT NOW, TWO MEGAWATTS ISN'T A WHOLE LOT, BUT THERE IS A PLANNED OUTAGE AT THE PRAIRIE STATE, COAL FIRE PLANT COMING UP IN THE FALL.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER TOO, IS THAT, UM, WIND COMPLEMENT SOLAR REALLY WELL.
SO IT'S GONNA FIT INTO OUR PORTFOLIO PERFECTLY AND CAUSE US TO NOT HAVE TO GO OUT ONTO THE OPEN MARKET FOR THAT TWO MEGAWATTS.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WE DO HAVE TO HAVE IT TURNED BACK INTO AMP BY SEPTEMBER 27TH.
SO, UM, HAVING A MEETING ON THE 26TH WORKED OUT PERFECTLY AND IT'LL HIT OUR PORTFOLIO ON OCTOBER 1ST.
SOME GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE POWER.
UPDATE LITTLE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE FORM.
UM, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK, UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE, WE'VE GOT THE ADVERTISE OUT FOR THE LCA AND I BELIEVE THAT WENT ON THE WEBSITE LAST WEEK.
STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A COMPLAINT SUBMISSION FORM FOR PEOPLE TO FILL OUT, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO KIND OF OUTLINING WHAT THE WEBSITE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SUBMISSION PORTAL.
PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT ONLINE ANONYMOUSLY, OR THEY CAN FILL OUT THE FORM.
I'M TRYING TO DO IT MOSTLY ELECTRONICALLY.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON PUBLISHING AND UPDATING THIS RENTER'S GUIDE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG EDUCATION FOR PUBLIC, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY CALL US IN, YES, THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SIGNING THE LANDLORD FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE DONE THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
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IF THEY JUST NEED TO BE AWARE, THERE COULD BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM AS WELL.COULD WE JUST INCLUDE THE LINK THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE, I THINK THERE'S A STATE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WHAT THE TENANT'S RIGHTS ARE.
UM, UH, RENTERS, TENANTS, SOMETHING.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO I'M THINKING IF WE CAN JUST GET ALL THAT UP THERE, UM, THAT WAY WE CAN AT LEAST SAY, HEY, WE'VE TRIED PUT INFORMATION, UM, HERE'S A LANDLORD TENANT ACT.
AND SO THAT THE RENTER RESPONSIBILITY WILL BE ON THERE.
AND ALSO THE LANDLORD RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE ON THERE TOO.
SO THEY, AND SO, AND LIKE RIGHT NOW, I THINK MONICAS, AND MOST OF MONICA SHE'S DRAFTED LIKE NINE PAGES OF POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IT.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, SHE COMPLETES HER, UM, LAST PROPERTY MAINTENANCE OFFICIAL CLASS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO THIS WEEK WE'RE GOING THE
AND SO I THINK HOPE WE'RE SHOOTING FOR NOVEMBER 1ST.
IF WE CAN GET THAT BOARD LINED UP, START SHOOT CITATIONS.
AND I THINK THE THOUGHT IS JUST, WE WILL JUST BE COMPLAINT BASED ONLY FOR NOW.
WHEN IS THAT DATE ON THOSE APPLICATIONS DUE? DO YOU REMEMBER FOR THIS BOARD? DO YOU HAVE DATE OR WHEN A IT'S JUST OPEN UNTIL, OKAY.
GOOD AND COUNCIL, RIGHT? OR JUST THE MANAGER I THINK YOU HAVE ON THEIR COUNCIL.
UH, NEXT FREDA, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT, UH, KATHY WAS JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF, UH, THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, UH, COUNCIL WANTED US TO COVER ON THE OCTOBER 10TH OR
UH, RITA, WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK SOME INFORMATION, PROVIDING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO STAND UP FORA AND ON FUTURE.
SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN ADD.
I, I HOPE EVERYBODY NOTICES AS OCTOBER 11TH.
NO, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S A TUESDAY.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MANY, LIKE, HONESTLY, I, THAT WHEN I SAW IT, BECAUSE OCTOBER 10TH IS WHEN IT SHOULD BE MM-HMM
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ELSE IS AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
HUH? WILL THAT BE IN THIS ROOM? THE 11.
I NEED TO MOVE THE, I THINK WE'VE GOT A BAR MEETING THAT NIGHT.
I THINK CONNIE'S ALREADY MOVED.
YOU SHE'S MOVED IN MM-HMM
UH, STAFF RECOMMEND TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR FREE TOWAR.
I THOUGHT IT WAS AT ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS.
WELL, SO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
IT SAYS, DO DO WE WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT, THAT TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT DISCUSSION ON THE 11TH? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR NOW? IS THERE, CAN WE SEND YOU YEAH.
CAUSE I DON'T WANNA, WE HAVEN'T YEAH.
DISCUSSED THIS IN OPEN WORK SESSION.
SO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO JUST TELL YOU WHAT WE WANNA KNOW? NOW YOU CAN DO IT NOW OR YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME.
UM, I CAN'T, WE SHOULD SEND IT TO HER.
JUST, JUST
CAUSE THEN ON THE 11TH WE'LL BE DISCUSSING DISCUSSION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? GRASS? OH, MOU.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS THE ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE AN MOU.
SO WE HAD AN MOU BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY.
NOW THE TOWN HAS TO GO INTO AN MOU, WELL, SORRY.
UM, THE TOWN AND THE FRONT DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL NEED TO CREATE THEIR MOU.
THEY'LL ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE ONE BETWEEN COUNTY AND UM, DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S SO HARD RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY MODELED IT AFTER THE MOU BETWEEN TOWN AND COUNTY.
THERE'S NO SURPRISES OR ANYTHING IN THAT.
UM, I THINK THEY SENT IT OVER.
I THINK THE COUNTY SENT TO, THEY SENT US ONE.
IT WAS TOO LATE TO GET IT ON THIS WORK SESSION.
SO, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE SOONER
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WE GET THE, YEAH, THEY THEY'RE HIRING STAFF OR, YOU KNOW, THE TOURISM DIRECTOR THE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT.
CUZ IT'S THE, I THINK THE WAY THE COUNTY IS DOING IT, THEY'RE BASICALLY JUST PULLING OUT THE SECTION THAT SAID WHAT, UM, THE MOU WAS JUST WHAT WE KIND OF ALREADY AGREED TO WITH.
BUT THAT SAME MOU THAT WE AGREED TO WITH THE COUNTY HAD A PART IN THERE OF WHAT WOULD BE GOING ON WITH THE 5 0 1 C3 BUT, OR C6.
DID YOU FORWARD THAT TO ALL THE COUNCIL? CAUSE I DIDN'T GET A WISH FORWARD IT, YOU HAVEN'T FORWARDED IT YET FORWARD.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT HASN'T BEEN VETTED BY THEIR OWN ATTORNEY.
IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING WE ALREADY DID THAT.
I THINK THAT WAS THE CASE A WHILE BACK, I THINK.
THAT'S BEEN MORE, THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED THEIR ATTORNEY HASN'T WELL, WHAT I SAW IS A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT, RIGHT.
UH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE WAS WHAT YOU COULD CALL AN MOU OR MOA BETWEEN THE TWO GOVERNING BODIES.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HASN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT.
SO THAT'S ALL, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HASN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT THE, THE TOWN ATTORNEY CAN LOOK AT IT.
LIKE WE NEED TO LIKE KEEP THE BALL MOVING MM-HMM
WE'RE GONNA FORM THAT 5 0 1 C OR WHATEVER.
IF WE PULLED OUT, CAUSE IT'S NOT APPLICABLE ANYMORE.
AND WE MOVED PAST THAT STEP, VIRGINIA TOURISM COM COMMITTEE, THAT MONEY THAT WE JUST RECEIVED, WE NEVER RECEIVED THAT BEFORE BECAUSE OF TOWN COUNTY WERE COMPETING TOURISM THINGS.
AND NOW WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT MONEY.
SO YEAH, WE GOTTA MOVE IT ALONG.
CUZ THEY ARE HIRING A DIRECTOR AND THEY WANNA TAKE OVER OUR EMPLOYEES DOWNTOWN, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
SOONER THAT THE BETTER AND HELP YOUR PAID ROLE.
WE JUST HAD, WELL, I TRYING TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT TODAY ACTUALLY, BUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT, GEORGE, YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT ABOUT THEIR ATTORNEY, NOT LOOKING AT IT, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THIS FEELS LIKE A DEJA BOOTH BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE ONE WITH THEM, WE'D SAY WE TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING THAT WE ALREADY SEEN.
I'M LIKE, SO AM I SENDING IT OUT? CAN YOU SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY? YEAH.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 26TH OR NOT? WELL, WE CAN ADD THAT.
I, I WANT GEORGE JUST REVIEWED FOR I, WELL, YEAH, HE SHOULD REVIEW IT.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED A ACCOUNTING REVIEW BEFORE WE HAVE A SUGGESTED WE HAVE A CLOSED AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL ON THE 26TH.
BEFORE THE ACTUAL MEETING OR AFTER THE MEETING, HOWEVER IT'S SET UP.
ACTUALLY THE AGENDA RULES REQUIRES CLOSED AT THE END.
DOESN'T NO, CAUSE WE'VE HAD 'EM BEFORE.
AND THEN IF WE DECIDE ON ACTION, WE TAKE ACTION RIGHT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? LIKE I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT EFFICIENTLY.
ANYWAY, YOU WOULD DO A SPECIAL MEETING THEN I GUESS JUST FOR THE CLOSED PIECE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE MEAN? YEAH.
THE WHAT I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY IT.
I FIND IT ODD THAT WE WOULD GET A DRAFT AGREEMENT THAT HASN'T GONE TO THEIR OWN ATTORNEY.
MM-HMM
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE JOINT TOURISM COMMITTEES? UM, ATTORNEY.
CAUSE IT HAS GONE TO THEIRS, THE THREE PARTY AGREEMENT THAT CAME IN LAST WEEK DIDN'T IT WENT ON FRIDAY AND THEN WE LEARNED THAT IT WAS GONNA BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SOMETIME AFTER THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE CARE ABOUT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REVIEW AND NOT JUST YOUR REVIEW.
LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT FOR THE TOWN EVEN WHEN THE DRAFT, WELL, WELL IT'S RP, THEY DIDN'T DRAFT, THEY DIDN'T DRAFT IT.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BASICALLY LIKE WHAT WE HAD SAID BEFORE TEMPER IT'S DIFFERENT AND THEY JUST TOOK THAT LANGUAGE OUT TO SAY, OKAY, NOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA AGREE TO.
AND THEY KEPT IT THE SAME TO TRY TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS.
LIKE NOT REWORDING A BUNCH OF THINGS, NOT DOING A LOT OF THINGS.
SO IT'S, IT'S FAMILIAR TO EVERYBODY, I GUESS.
THAT'S BEEN VOICED, WHICH IS TO AVOID THIS PING PONGING.
IT SEEMS TO ME THEY WOULD VET THEIR OWN DOCUMENT BEFORE THEY SEND IT TO US.
BUT YEAH, THE, THE JOINT TOURISM COMMITTEE THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY.
WE'RE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE JOINT BETWEEN DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL AND THE TOWN.
WE'RE NOT ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY ANYMORE.
THAT'S A POINT AT THIS JUNCTURE.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, DO YOU AGREE AS THE ATTORNEY THAT THIS IS PROPER FORM OR WHATEVER, UNLESS YOU NEED ANOTHER ATTORNEY'S OPINION BEFORE YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION.
WELL, ISN'T THE TOURISM AND THE COUNTY
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IN THE SAME.I MEAN THE COUNTY'S A THREE PART.
WELL, YEAH, THE COUNTY'S GONNA TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR PIECE, BUT IT'S ALL BASICALLY THE SAME THING WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED.
THEY JUST TOOK OUT THE PART ABOUT FORMING THE 5 0 1 C THREE, CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY MOVED FORWARD.
SO WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS BEFORE, THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US.
LIKE WE, WE NEEDED FIRST TO DO ONE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY THAT AGREED ABOUT OUR FUNDING AND OUR BUDGETS.
AND THAT THEY WOULD FORM IN 5 0 1 C.
SO WE NEEDED TO DO COUNTY AND TOWN TOGETHER AS AN MOU.
BUT THEN THE TOWN NEEDED TO AGREE WITH THE 5 0 1 C WHATEVER NUMBER IT IS AND THE COUNTY NEEDED TO AGREE WITH IT.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW IS WHAT HOURS WITH THEM IS THEY? AND THEY'VE GOTTA DO THEIRS.
SO ANYWAY, BUT GEORGE IS RIGHT.
JUST ANYTHING THAT WON'T, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IF HE CAN REVIEW IT, IF THEY DON'T REVIEW IT, IT DOES MATTER.
DOESN'T MATTER BETWEEN US, BETWEEN US AND THE 5 0 1 C THREE, BUT BETWEEN IT'S A THREE, PARTY'S A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT.
THEY ALL HAVE TO, THEY ALL HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.
WHAT WAS, THIS IS A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT.
SO IF THE COUNTY DOES, HAS TO BE, IF IT WAS JUST BETWEEN US TWO, THEN IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
I JUST, I WAS JUST SAYING, I THINK WE WERE, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS JUST CONCERNING THAT WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO TAKE SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR.
CAUSE WE'RE IN TOURISTS, BUT WE CAN AGREE WITH THE DISCOVERY.
IT WAS THE TOWN AND COUNTY AND NOW IT'S THE TOWN AND THE 5 0 1 C SIX AND THE COUNTY AND THE 5 0 1 66.
BUT IF WE AGREE WITH THE 5 0 1 C SIX AND THE COUNTY DOESN'T, THAT'S NOT A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT.
SO ARE WE DOING A SPECIAL MEETING AT SIX O'CLOCK ON THE 26TH? I THINK SIX 30 IS PLENTY, 6 30, 30.
CAUSE WE DID IT SIX 30 AND THEN WE JUST ROLL INTO THE SEVEN O'CLOCK OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT A MINUTE? WHY CAN'T WE DO IT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND STILL DO THE ROLL CALL AND EVERYTHING AND THEN GO RIGHT TO A CLOSE, CLOSE MEETING AMOUNT.
COME, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.
I THOUGHT THE, UH, I THOUGHT THE, UH, AGENDA APPROVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
THE ORDER, THE ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ALREADY SET FOR THIS YEAR AND, AND CLOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE END.
MM-HMM
YOU COME OUT OF CLOSE AND TAKE ACTION.
IF YOU DON'T WANNA START AT SIX 30.
SO I WAS GONNA SAY YOU, I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU WERE STARTED AT EIGHT, UM, ADD INTO THE CLOSE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? UM, I GOT ONE THING.
UM, I WAS, WELL, I ACTUALLY GOT A CALL FROM, UH, UM, PROPERTY OWNER ON NORTH SHEOR AVENUE ABOUT THE PARKING, UM, THE LITTLE ISLAND THINGS OUT ON THE SIDE THERE.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE LIVED THERE FOR YEARS AND, AND EVEN THEIR NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, ABOUT THEIR PARKING.
IT'S LIKE THOSE LITTLE ISLANDS ARE SO CLOSE.
YOU GOTTA HAVE A SMART CAR TO GET IN, YOU KNOW, IN THERE, ACROSS THE HOSPITAL, ACROSS FROM THE HOSPITAL AND ONE DOWN TO GO TOWARD 11 STREET, THEY PUT EM, THEY PUT 'EM IN, IN FRONT OF THE HO.
I THINK THEY PUT 'EM FRONT OF THE HOSPITAL TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, JUST SLOW PEOPLE DOWN CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENTS THEY HAD TO SLOWED PEOPLE DOWN.
BUT THE THING IS THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT HAVING THOSE TAKEN UP AND PUT THE WHITE STRIPES UP THROUGH THERE.
INSTEAD THAT WAY IT WAS GIVE THEM MORE PARKING YEAH.
CAUSE THEY EVEN SAID WITH THE TREES AND EVERYTHING, THEY COMING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
IF THERE'S A CAR PARKED RIGHT IN BETWEEN HIS TWO ISLANDS, IT'S DANGEROUS AND IT'S ALMOST CALLED SEVERAL ACCIDENTS, THEY SAY SURE.
SO I REALLY NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF THOSE THINGS ANYWAY, BUT I WASN'T COUNCIL AT THE TIME, SO OH YES.
THEY REPLACED IN, UH, AFTER SEVERAL PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS THERE.
SO THEY USED THAT TO TRY TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO PREVENT THE PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS.
DO YOU THINK THAT WAS MORE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE LEAVING THE HOSPITAL TO GO ACROSS THE STREET OR DO YOU THINK THAT YEAH, THAT THERE WAS A PRETTY PARKING BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL STAFF HAD LIMITED PARKING THROUGH THERE.
AND THERE WAS TWO INCIDENCES WHERE POLICE, UH, HAD BEEN STRUCK BY VEHICLES AND IT HAD TO DO A LOT WITH THE CLEARANCE, UH, LACK OF VISUAL OF THEM BEING ABLE TO SEE THE PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THE THEORY WAS WHEN THEY BROUGHT VDO INTO PLAY AND BROUGHT TOWN OFFICIALS INTO PLAY, THAT THAT COULD HELP, UM, REDUCE THE AMOUNT AND, AND, UH, THE SPEED AND TRAFFIC IS THEY WERE TRYING TO REDUCE PARKING INTENTIONALLY, IF IT SOUNDS LIKE, OKAY, SO SINCE THE HOSPITAL'S GONE, DO WE NEED TO, THE HOSPITAL'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLUS WE HAVE THE LIGHTS THERE FOR THE CROSS WALL, RIGHT? I WAS GONNA SAY, IS THERE A SPEED BUMP THROUGH THERE? IS IT RUMBLE STRIP SOMEWHERE THERE? IT'S JUST A LITTLE RUMBLE THING, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT SPEED BUMPS OUT.
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RAISE CROSSWALKS, BUT RIGHT.WE CAN LOOK INTO, I THINK, I THINK THOSE CAN BE REMOVED IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WISHES EITHER AT THE HOSPITAL'S EXPENSE.
IF I REMEMBER THE AGREEMENT CORRECTLY OR TOWN EXPENSE.
OH, WELL NOW IF IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE TO PAY THE WELL, WELL WE CAN LOOK INTO, COME BACK.
IF YOU DO THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.
SHOULD IT? I I'D RATHER THE HOSPITAL PICK FOR WAS A DOLLAR, WHOEVER TO PAVE IT.
AND THEN WHEN, WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO GET PAVED TIME WITH THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BAD HAVE TO RUN.
CAUSE THEY'RE DOING ALL THE SIDE STREETS THROUGH THEIR, YEAH.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY CUZ HE SAID BOC WAS INVOLVED.
THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE HAVE TO RUN BY THEM THOUGH, BECAUSE DID THEY PAY FOR ANY PORTION OF THAT? I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE DO BOC DID NOT PAY FOR ANY.
IF YOU COULD GET SOMETHING, THAT'D BE GREAT, JAY.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT.
BY THOSE MEETINGS, SOMEBODY WANT I MOVE THE TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE AND GO INTO CLOSE MEETING FOR THE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ASSIGNMENT APPOINTMENT FOR MOTION, PERFORMANCE TO MOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLIN OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS AVOID OR EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY SPECIFIC PLEASE MANAGEMENT, DENTAL ATTORNEY AND THE CLERK ACCOUNTS PURSUANT TO 2.2, 3 7 11 A ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
ANYBODY NEED TO TAKE A BREAK? YES.
I WASN'T GONNA ASK AND THEN I GET Y'ALL DONE.
I'LL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT AFTER WE COME OUT.
CAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY YOUR FLASHLIGHT ON IT'S TRUE.
ROBBIE DON'T CARE, BUT I COULD READ IT OUT, BUT FOR READ IT IN.
I MOVED THE COUNCIL CERTIFIED THAT'S THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE AS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S AFFIRMING TO VOTE THAT ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING BY COUNCIL AND THAT THE WROTE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN.