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WAS BLOWN AWAY.[Economic Development Authority on July 14, 2022.]
ROLL CALL VICE CHAIRMAN, MARK TAFSA DIRECTOR, NICK BASS DIRECTOR.DAVID'S KIDNEY RUSHING, UH, ONTO THE MINUTES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR, OR NICK? YOU'RE THE SECRETARY, SINCE YOU JUST TOOK A BITE OF, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT THE ATTENDANCE.
I APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM MY FANDOM PRIOR MONTH AND I DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS, EDITS OR ADDITIONS MOVE TO A PRO.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT, A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI AND MOVE HIM UP.
UH, NOBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS.
UH, CHECK ROOM IS HERE FROM WARREN COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO TALK ABOUT HER REAL ESTATE, OUR REAL ESTATE, MAYBE INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE.
WELL, THERE'S A, WE HAVE A BUNCH IN THE TOWN FOR SURE.
RIGHT? SO YOU WANT TO STAND, DO YOU WANT TO GO ON THE PODIUM? WELL, I THINK IF I JUST SIT WITH YOU GUYS, YEAH, COME ON OUT.
UM, LAUREN, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP HERE WHILE WE'RE AT, SHE'S BEEN THERE.
SO WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT HANDOUTS OR WHAT'S DISCUSSION JEFF'S GOING TO DO, BUT THE LAST TIME HE PRESENTED SOMETHING TO CANCEL, WE HAD A SPREADSHEET THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW UP-TO-DATE THIS IS, BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE VALUE, THE DEBT SERVICES, UM, THE ZONING.
AND I THOUGHT IT'D BE BENEFICIAL NOW.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME DOODLING IN THERE, BUT WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST HELPS ME THROUGH MY THINKING PROCESS.
AND THERE'S SOME NOTES THERE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, BUT I COULDN'T FIND A CLEAN VERSION.
I FIGURE THIS WOULD BE, UH, UH, ADEQUATE FOR TODAY'S CONVERSATION.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID HAVE, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND IT'S CHANGED.
PROBABLY NOT VERY MUCH THOUGH.
RIGHT? SO YOU WANT US TO MAKE COPIES OF THAT? I WOULD THINK WE HAVE, WELL, THIS IS THE SAME.
THIS IS PROBABLY A LESSER VERSION OF THAT.
THIS IS A MORE OF A, JUST MY, MY SUMMATION OF IT.
YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL? SO WHILE YOU'RE GOING DOWN IT, I LIKED THE INFORMATION.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST FANTASTIC.
MINE IS SUPER TINY AND I WAS FRUSTRATED WITH IT.
SO IF I CAN, MAYBE AFTER THE MEETING, WE CAN GET A COPY OF THAT AND THAT'S FINE, BUT I THINK IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME THING.
THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT.
LIKE I CAN AT AN EMORY AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, UM, TWO EAST MAIN AT THE AFTERNOON HAS BEEN, SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, JOHN, UM, LET'S SEE.
I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITION.
WHAT ABOUT PROGRESS DRIVE? WELL, PROGRESS DRIVE IS WE STILL HAVE IT AND, AND BLAINE IS THE CURRENT, AND THIS IS SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO THE, I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT IS, I'M JUST TAKING A QUICK LOOK HERE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ON WOULD BE, UM, HOLD ON HERE.
WELL, IT W IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, HAPPY CREEK ROAD AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, HERE WE GO.
AND SENATE, THAT'S NOT THAT, UM, IT'S, UH, WE JUST GOT IT IN A LAWSUIT WITH, UM, JENNIFER MACDONALD AND IT'S, UM, ROUGHLY 40 ACRES, UH, RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF HAPPY CREEK, ALMOST AT THE INTERSECTION OF HAPPY CREEK ROAD AND LEECH LEACH RUN.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A SUBDIVISION THERE, AND THEN IT'D BE THE NEXT THING DOWN, UM, BEFORE IT, SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE I THINK ARE GOING TO BE THE ONLY TWO MAJOR CHANGES BETWEEN THESE TWO.
UM, VERY, VERY, UH, VERY FEW FEW CHANGES.
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AND NOW OF OUR PROPERTIES ARE IN TOWN AND 22% ARE TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE FOR ALL OF THEM IS.UM, AND HONESTLY, I THINK THESE NUMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO A LOT OF DEBATE, BUT 32 MILLION AND OF THAT 21 7 IS, UH, IS IN THE TOWN.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE WHAT WE'VE, UH, WHAT WE'VE GOT ARE, WHAT WE WORK WITH, UH, CLEARLY AS WE GO THROUGH.
AND, UM, UH, I'VE BEEN MARKETING, UM, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING CHANGES, UM, AND WE'RE IN A VOLATILE, REAL ESTATE MARKET WENT WAY UP NOW IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO IT'S HARD TO, IT'S HARD TO KNOW, AND ULTIMATELY IT'S WHAT ANYONE WILL PAY FOR IT.
UM, I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH, UM, UH, IN SOME OF THEM.
UM, SO 4 26, A BLOOD DRIVE WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR, AND, UM, WE, UH, ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE SOLD IN THE, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS COMPLETE THAT SALE.
SO 4 26, MY DRIVERS AND ON MACHINE.
I MEAN MAYBE SOME, SOME DON'T HAVE ADDRESSES ICE CREAM.
THEN THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT SHOULD BE ON, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE GONE HERE IN A FEW.
CAN WE MAKE SOME COPIES OF THAT SO I CAN FOLLOW, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SMALL PRINT, BUT SHE PROBABLY CAN'T ENLARGE IT.
IF IT'S ON TWO SHEETS, YOU BETTER.
SO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IS MY PIXELATION FROM MY PREDATOR IS I HAVEN'T APOLOGIZED.
SO WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, YOU SAID THERE'S $21 MILLION PROPERTY IN THE TOWN, RIGHT.
AND JUST ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I KNOW IT'S TOUGH, IT'S IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF TAX REVENUE FOR THE TOWN TO SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT W THAT OUR BOARD IS TRYING TO DO BECAUSE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS, IS, UH, INTERESTED IN GETTING, UH, UH, ITS DEBT REDUCED IS, IS TO SELL PROPERTIES, BUT NOT TO DO IT AT A FIRE SALE.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO BALANCE WHAT WE THINK ARE THE TWO MAIN OBJECTIVES OF AN ADA, UH, WANTED US TO BRING IN A GOOD JOBS, WHETHER IT'S TO A, UH, A NEW COMPANY COMING IN OR AN EXISTING ONE, EXPANDING, UH, AND THEN SECONDLY, UH, TO PROVIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, CAP EX, UH, OR, OR THE TAX BASE IN, IN DOING IT.
SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT PROPERTY THAT IS MARKETABLE ON THE CORRIDOR.
UM, VERY MUCH WE WANT TO, UM, UH, TO BE MANUFACTURING, WE WERE TOLD BY A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVER GET IT.
WELL, THE REALITY IS, IS WE ARE GOING TO GET IT.
UM, SO, UM, 4 26 BAR DRIVE IS, IS ONE WHERE IT'S THE ICE CREAM, UH, UH, UH, GROUP COMING IN, WE SAY ICE CREAM, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA ROLL VARIETY OF, UM, DIFFERENT FROZEN FOODS.
AND SO ICE CREAM IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.
UH, BUT, UM, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CURRENT PLAN, THAT'S PRETTY SMALL, UH, AND BOND, IT GIVES THEM A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO, TO EXPAND.
UM, THEY HAVE GOT, UM, THAT'S A, IT'S A VERY GOOD FIRM AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BRINGING SHOT HATE FOODS AND CURRENTLY MAKE ME ICE CREAM ICE CREAM IS THE PRIMARY THING I KNOW, BUT THEY, UM, THEY HAVE, UH, UM, WELL, 10, 2000 STORES JUST NONE RUN AROUND HERE WHEN I'VE HAD IT.
UM, UM, I GOT IT FROM THEM, RIGHT.
SO, BUT IT IS, IT'S VERY GOOD RIGHT NOW.
UH, THEY'RE DOING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ONES, BUT THE ONES THAT I GOT WERE ON A, UM, LIKE A POPSICLE, BUT IT'S UP, IT'S A HIGH-END ICE CREAM ON THAT.
VERY GOOD, VERY, VERY TASTY KIND OF BEN AND JERRY'S ICE CREAM OR NO, I MEAN, IT'S MORE, IT HAS MORE OF A, UM, IMPORTANT.
YEAH, I, CAN I, HANG ON CERTAIN, IF I KNOW YOUR NEXT MEETING, I CAN BRING YOU SOME, I CAN PROBABLY WAIT FOR A MEETING, BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, IS THAT I'LL GIVE IT, I'LL GIVE IT TO STEVE AND HE'LL GO, NO, HE DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING,
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BUT, UH, HAVING, HAVING TRIED IT AND TRIED IT WHEN I HAD COVID WITH A SORE THROAT, IT WAS ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD.SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, UM, THEN, UM, WE, UH, HAVE, UH, LYS ON 53 ACRES AT STEVENS.
IT SHOULD BE STAY STEVENS AND 53 ACRES.
I WONDER IF THIS IS JUST THE STUFF IN TOWN.
SO THEN I'LL JUST TELL YOU ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE IT ON IT.
UM, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT THE FIRM BECAUSE IT IS AN LOI AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A MANUFACTURING GROUP WITH A W WILL ALSO HAVE THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.
UM, THERE, THEY INTEND TO BUILD, UM, UM,
UM, SO THAT'S TWO, UM, THE THIRD ONE, UH, IT ALSO IS AN LOI AND THAT'S THE HAPPY CREEK ONE THAT WE STARTED WITH THAT WE CAN'T FIND.
UM, BUT THAT ISN'T IN TOWN AND, UM, UH, THAT, UH, ALSO IS, UH, IT WOULD, UH, IT WOULD BE FOR BUILDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UM, WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE USE.
AND WE THINK THAT THE INTENDED USE WOULD BE, UH, FOR, UH, FOR THAT.
UM, THEY WOULD BE CURRENTLY IT'S, UH, BY RIGHT HALF ACRE, LOTS, UH, RESIDENTIAL WE'LL BAKE THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S 48 BUCKS TO THE HAPPY RIDGED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
CAN YOU PULL IT UP? DON'T PUT ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT HE PROVIDED THAT
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, IF YOU GOT, IF YOU DO IT, WE'RE NOT FEARLESS.
UM, WE RECEIVED FROM PETTY THAT RECENTLY, THE LAST TIME IT WAS HERE.
WELL THEN IT SHOULD BE THERE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT NOW FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, GREAT GROWED.
RIGHT NEAR, UM, LEGION LEAD TRUCK.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT YOU SAID YOU GOT IN A SUIT? YES.
UM, IT'S GOT SOME TOPOGRAPHICAL CHALLENGES, BUT IT'S IN WARREN COUNTY.
DOES THAT WORD NOW THAT IS MORE SHE'S TOPOGRAPHICALLY WARRANT.
THE OTHER WETLANDS, WHAT'S THE, OH, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST UP AND DOWN SORT OF THE START OF WEST VIRGINIA PHRASE IT.
UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE, WE, UH, WE THINK, UM, IS, IS AGAIN SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THAT'S, UH, UH, AND THEN THE FOURTH, ONE OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHICH IS TRY CIRCLE AND THAT'S A VARIETY OF PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO GO INTO THAT IN ANY DETAIL.
SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN BUSY, UM, OH, WELL, WELL, UH, DOING THAT, BUT AGAIN, BEING PRUDENT, TRYING TO BRING IN THE KINDS OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD GET REALLY GRANTED BENEFIT MORE IN THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN OUR FOCUS ON, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL ONES WHENEVER I GET BACK THAT PIECE OF PAPER THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HIGH AND WHAT ARE OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES ARE QUESTION FOR YOU? UM, IT, CAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED, BUT YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS INVOLVED, UH, THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY SHARED FINANCIAL INTERESTS IN SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, IT'S STILL THE CASE IN SOME CASES, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS ARE SURE, BUT I KNOW THAT SOME ARE LOCATED IN THE COUNTY, BUT IN THE TOWN LIMITS.
BUT, BUT FINANCIALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY YOU SOLD IT RIGHT.
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RIGHT.YOU KNOW, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
IT'S ONE THAT FRANKLY I HAVE NOT ADDRESSED YET.
UM, AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, IS IF YOU HAVE AGREEMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, LET US LOOK AT THEM.
MY VIEW IS, IS IF WE HAVE A VALID AGREEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO HONOR THAT.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY SURE.
I HAVE NOT SEEN, I'VE SEEN DOCUMENTS THAT THEY GIVE ME A SENSE OF WHAT, UM, MAYBE YOU, AGAIN, BEFORE THE BROOD, THERE ARE AREAS UNDER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHERE IT SHOWS, SEND IT TO REIMBURSEMENT.
AND I, I JUST HAVEN'T, I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.
SO, UM, I'M NOT AS AWARE OF THE ONE THAT, UM, JOE MIGHT'VE GIVEN YOU OR WHERE YOU GOT IT FROM.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
IF YOU LOOK AT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT THAT SAYS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, I GUESS FROM AN EDA STANDPOINT, ARE YOU GETTING IT? IF YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET, IT WILL WAKE YOU UP.
SO MINE DOESN'T HAVE THAT IN IT.
I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAD A DIFFERENT, I THOUGHT YOU HAD SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
NO, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, UH, IN FEBRUARY OF 2021.
AND FOR THE GROUP, THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SHOWS THE PERCENTAGE OF TOWNS, AT LEAST ON THIS.
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND.
AS YOU SAID, AS IN, AS IN VERIFICATION BUBBLE, IT'S JUST ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THAT TALKS ABOUT 34% OF TOWN REIMBURSEMENT.
AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE OWN A THIRD AND YOU MAY, WELL, YEAH, I JUST HAVE IT.
I CAN'T, THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND I WANT TO SEE IT.
AND WELL, HOW DO YOU THINK, UM, YOU ALL ARRIVED TO THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW? I MEAN, I'M GOING TO SPECULATE IT'S THE ORIGINAL FUNDING FORMULA.
PROBABLY WHAT I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY COULD BE, COULD WELL BE THAT.
CAUSE WHEN, WHEN WE SAY W I CAN'T SPEAK TO THOSE PROPERTIES SPECIFICALLY, BUT WHEN WE WERE FUNDING SAY OPERATIONS AT THE EDA WAY BACK WHEN, WHEN WE WERE FUNDING, LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND BUY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBLE FOR X PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE FUNDING FORMULA.
IT'S JUST LIKE WE HAD, UH, I THINK WE HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARD FIVE BACK IN THE DAY.
AND THAT'S, IT'S NOT UNLIKE WHAT WE DID AT MACKAY SPRINGS, WHICH WAS THAT SAME FORMULA.
SO IT'S JUST VERIFYING THAT AND, AND, UH, UNDERSTANDING IF THERE WERE, UH, OBLIGATIONS, UM, AND, AND VERIFYING IT.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS, ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I'VE, UM, THAT I'VE HAD TO FOCUS ON.
SO I WOULD SAY IS, AS YOU AND I HAVE TALKED THAT, UM, AND I'LL STILL SAY THIS GROUP, IF IT'S OWED, THEN WE WOULD GET PAID.
NOW ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES, UM, MOSTLY ARE, UH, ALL OF THEM IN FACT ARE, UM, BANKS HAVE LANES ON THEM, SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK IS THAT, UM, I BELIEVE YOU WOULD GET PAID AND THEN, UH, THE BALANCE WOULD GO TO RESOLVING A BANK LOANS.
SO, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR EACH PROPERTY.
UH, AND THEN LOOKING ALSO IMPORTANTLY, DOWN THE ROAD, JOBS AND TAXES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN OUR, OUR FOCUS PRIMARILY ON, ON THOSE.
UM, THERE ARE, UM, SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE BEGUN TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO DEVELOP.
UM, UM, SO, UM, THE, UM, NOT THE AVTEX BUILDING, BUT IF YOU LOOK DOWN, IT SAYS KENDRICK LANE TRUCK LOT.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, PUTTING, UM, UH, TOWNHOUSES IN THAT AREA AND, UM, EXPANDING, UM, AND AGAIN, BRINGING IN SOMEBODY TO DO IT.
ISN'T WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
UM, BUT LOTS OF THINGS, UH, DEALING WITH OUR ADA AND WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
SO, UH, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE TO, UM, EXPAND, UM, UM, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES HERE AND TO MAKE THEM MORE AFFORDABLE, UH, THAN TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT FOUR HOUSES ON THERE IF YOU HAD A NICE, UM, LOT AND SO ON, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU DO, UH, TOWNHOUSES, I THINK WE THOUGHT
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WE COULD GET SOMEWHERE IN THERE, THERE, UH, IN THE RANGE OF 40 INTO THAT SPACE.UM, BUT IT WAS NOT UNDERSTANDING AT THAT MOMENT THAT THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT GOES ACROSS FOR DRAINAGE.
SO THERE'S NOT AN EASEMENT, THERE'S A DRAIN IT'S PIONEERS AND YOU NEED TO USE, BUT IF HE IS WILLING TO, RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT AT THAT PARTICULAR.
SO IT KIND OF CUTS, RIGHT? NOT QUITE THROUGH THE METAL A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S AN AWKWARD SPOT TO DO IT.
SO PIPE SECTION, BUT THERE IS A PIPE THERE, OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE OUR UNDERSTANDING IS IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE FLOODING.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY, UM, UH, UH, APPROVE THAT I'M HOPEFUL, UH, NEXT FRIDAY.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL, UM, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST HAVE TO, ULTIMATELY A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, FOCUS ON HOW TO DO THAT.
SO YOU WANT TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS HAVEN'T BEEN PARTY TO, BUT SEE, YOU WANT TO CONVERT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AT THE KENDRICK TRUCK LINES? YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE, IT ISN'T SET IN STONE, BUT IT CERTAINLY THE, THE, WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR IT.
I'M JUST LIKE, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT DECISION? CAUSE TO ME, LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SCARCE RESOURCES OF INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT.
AND SO YEAH, YOUR, YOUR PROBLEM, YOUR PROBLEM AT THE TRUCK LINE, IT'S NARROW AND IT ABUTS, UH, HOUSES.
AND, UH, WE, WE LOOKED AT, UH, PUTTING IN YOU, YOU COULD PUT IN OFFICE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SPACE AND THE LIKE, UM, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY MAYBE COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD SERVICE THE APP TECH SITE COULD GET THAT THING OFF THE GROUND.
THEN LOTS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO AFTER TEXAS, ANOTHER THING I'LL, I CAN, I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS A SENSE OF WHAT OUR THINKING IS ON IT, WHERE THERE'S A LONG WAYS TO GO.
AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE I'M, HOPEFULLY THAT WE BRING IN, UH, FREEDOM AND GET YOUR IDEAS AS WELL.
IT'S A COMPLEX SITE AND THERE'S, THERE'S GOOD OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
UM, UH, ONE, ONE CONCERN THAT WE HAD IF WE, UH, AT THE, UH, UH, AT THE TRUCK LOT IS IF YOU PUT IN, UM, UH, ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER BASE KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A MINI VERSION OF MAIN STREET, IF YOU WILL, UM, IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A MARKETPLACE FOR THAT.
WE KNOW THERE'S A MARKETPLACE FOR HOUSING HERE BECAUSE THERE'S A PHENOMENAL SHORTY CHAIR.
AND, UM, UH, SO THAT, IT'S, IT'S JUST A PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT.
IT HASN'T GONE FURTHER THAN THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT PA AT THIS POINT, UM, I HAVE HER NAME.
I CAN JUST SHARE THAT WITH US.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD SINCE IT'S IN TOWN LIMITS TO MAYBE GET THE EPA PERSPECTIVE.
THAT'S MINE, WHERE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF TALKING WITH THEM.
AND I, AND I, OH, YES, SHE WAS THERE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
I JUST REMEMBER BEING HONEST ABOUT IT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK WHAT SOME OF THESE SITE LOCATIONS AND CONSIDERATION OF CHANGING ADASTRAL RESIDENTIAL AND STUFF.
WE JUST HAD A RETREAT AND IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS THREE CRITERIA IS, AND IT WAS JOBS TAX AND QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT ALSO WHERE WE FEEL MAYBE GROWTH SHOULD HAPPEN FOR THE TOWN AND, AND THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
SO WHAT IS THE, THE COORDINATION AND COMMON GOAL? IN OTHER WORDS, THERE SHOULD BE SOME DISCUSSION THAT WHILE LAUREN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, WHILE THEY'RE GOING OUT RECRUITING, AND THEY MAY SAY, WE TAKE THIS AS THE BEST POSSIBLE USE FOR THE LAND, HOW DOES BORN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY KNOW OR, OR, OR CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL THINKS YOU WANT TO TRY AND SAY? AND THE PLANNING PROCESS, I GUESS, AT WHAT POINT DOES PLANNING GET INVOLVED AND SAY, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IS GOOD FOR THE TOWN.
WELL, AGAIN, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO DO DUE DILIGENCE NOW, AND THEN IT WOULD BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL AND BRINGING IT TO THE FREEDOM AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE, WAS THERE ANY INTEREST, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL PROPERTIES, RIGHT? SURE.
IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN BUYING, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES AND HAVING THEM FREE AND CLEAR OR TO DO WITH WHAT YOU WANT, IS THERE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER.
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I MEAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PRICE THEM UP AND, YOU KNOW, AND TELL THEM, OKAY.I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S STEPPING BACK AND MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
I THINK FROM THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE CLIMATE IS THAT, UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER A HUNDRED PERCENT, THAT, THAT, THAT IT'S IN FLUX.
UM, AND, AND HOW ARE WE DOING IT? AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE LAWSUITS GOING BOTH WAYS.
SO, UH, THERE IS THAT, THAT ISSUE THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
THERE ARE, UM, THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, UH, THE PERCENTAGES OF THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED AND, AND FIGURE IT OUT, UH, AND, AND TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY AT ODDS WITH ONE ANOTHER TO REALLY WORK EFFECTIVELY TOGETHER.
AND ONE REASON, UH, THAT WAY, UM, HOW ABOUT, UM, SERVE THE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE IS, IS TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET THOSE BEHIND US, THEN I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE, THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED AND WANT TO DO ARE, ARE VERY DOABLE AND REASONABLE.
NOW WE'LL PROBABLY CHARGE YOU A DECENT SUM FOR IT, BUT NOTHING, NOTHING MORE THAN WE CHARGE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WOULD BRING THAT OR WHATEVER THE FAIR MARKET VALUE IS.
SO IT ISN'T, WE DON'T WANT TO DOUBLE IT BECAUSE OF THE TOWN TRIPLE, MAYBE, BUT NOT DOUBLE.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE, CAN YOU COME UP, CAN YOU COME UP WITH A LIST OF, CAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAWSUITS OR ANY OF THAT.
AND NOT THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION, BUT I THINK FOR US AS A BOARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR OBSTACLES ARE.
SO IF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WRITE WHETHER YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO IT TODAY OR AT SOME FUTURE DATE.
I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE OBSTACLES ARE.
WELL, LET ME JUST, IF I JUST GAVE YOU A 50 FOOT, 50 FOOT THOUSAND LEVEL, IS THAT, UM, SO THE, UM, IF YOU RECALL, THE POLICE STATION WAS, WAS BUILT.
AND, UM, NOW IT'S BEEN, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO THAT, UM, THE PRINCIPAL WAS PAID OFF ON THE, ON THE POLICE STATION, NOT THE ENTRANCE, BUT THE, UH, AT THE PRINCIPAL AND THE MECHANISM WE USED WAS TO GET, UM, AN ACCOUNTANT FROM OUR SIDE AND AN ACCOUNTANT FROM THE TOWN.
AND THEY WALKED THROUGH ALL THE INVOICES AND THEY AGREED ON THEM, UH, AS TO WHICH ONES WERE VALID.
AND THEN THAT WAS THE SUM THAT WAS PAID.
IT STRIKES ME THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S A MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS US WITHOUT HAVING A LOT OF, UM, UH, THE, THE, UH, EMOTIONAL, UH, ISSUES THAT THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY SOMETIMES HAVE, UH, UH, AND PUT IT DOWN IN A FACTUAL HERE'S WHAT'S, HERE'S WHAT'S, UH, AND, UH, IF WE CAN, UM, DO THAT, UM, THE, THE TOWN HAS SUED US, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE ON THAT, BUT, UH, THERE THERE'S BEEN NO MOVEMENT ON IT AT THIS POINT.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, UH, TWO SUITS.
ONE IS FOR THE INTEREST ON THE POLICE STATION, WHICH IS UNRESOLVED.
AND THEN THERE'S A VARIETY OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, THE BIGGEST BEAM, UH, WE'LL MEET YOU RUN OF THAT.
UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH, AND WE WE'D HAVE, UH, AN ACCOUNTING FIRM THAT'S WORKING ON THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.
THE TOWN NEEDS TO DO THE SAME THING, UM, AND, UH, ON THEIR SIDE AND SAY, HERE'S, HERE'S OUR THINGS TO WORK WITH, WORK WITH US TO AGREE ON WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, THE NET, IF THERE ARE DISPUTES ON, WELL, WE COMPLETELY DISAGREE.
MAYBE YOU GO TO ARBITRATION, MAYBE YOU GO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A NEGOTIATION FROM YOU ON, OR, OR IT GETS IT EXISTS, BUT THE COUNTY, RIGHT.
WHAT WOULD MAKE IT BEFORE ANYTHING? WHAT, IN YOUR OPINION MAKES THE COUNTY HOLE.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF WHAT WE THINK MAKES RIGHT.
I'M WORRIED THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A FREE TO ISSUE.
IT'S IT IS SHUT UP, BUT IT'S NOISE.
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THIS IS CLEARLY 50,000 FOOT IN THE AIR.SO AS A GROUP IDLE, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS TO STILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
SO THE NEXT STEP, SO I WOULD, I WOULD SAY WE'RE PROBABLY IT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
I'M SURE I'M OVERSTEPPING, BUT THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO USE OUR TIME AT THIS POINT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK, A QUICK, A QUICK VIEW ON IF THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE YEAH.
IT'S, LET'S JUST SAY IT IS THE WAR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITIES VIEW, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING WITH THE COUNTY THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE, I CAN'T RESOLVE.
AND, AND, AND COUNCIL WILL BE PROVIDING GUIDANCE OR DISCUSSION TO, TO LET IT, YOU KNOW, TO BE TRANSPARENT.
IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED COUNCIL AS THAT THE ATTITUDE THAT LIAISON MEETING TO, TO KINDA CREATE A PATH OF GETTING TO THAT POINT WHERE THE NEGOTIATIONS WILL BE BETWEEN COUNCIL, THE COUNTY AND, AND MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
SO, UM, BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, IF THE GOAL IS STILL AS TO HAVE THE TWO ADA'S WORK TOGETHER, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT AT LEAST AT THE COUNTY AND AT THE HORA UDA PROBABLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, BUT I DO THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY AS PART OF THE FACT-FINDING AND DATA AND STUFF IS TOO.
UM, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DRILL DOWN ON ANY DOCUMENTATION OR ANYTHING THAT IS NEEDED TO IDENTIFY THE THIRD OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN.
AND IT JUST DIDN'T GET ON HERE SOMEHOW.
SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SOMETHING OUT THERE AND FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE, WE NEED TO SOLIDIFY THAT, UM, HOW'S, THAT CAN PLAY A BIG ROLE, HOW FREE TO WHATEVER THE ME AND MY RECOLLECTION, THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE WAS THE ISSUE WITH A SALES TAX AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SHOPPING CENTERS, AND AS SOMETHING IN MY HEAD TELLS ME AROUND THAT TIMEFRAME IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SETTLEMENTS AROUND WORK, THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE EDA KIND OF DOING, BECOMING MORE OR SOLELY MORGAN COUNTY, UM, SUPPORTED AND NO LONGER THERE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THAT TOO, WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A WRITE OFF, SO TO SPEAK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO KIND OF MAKE THAT I'VE ASKED THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE IT.
UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE THREE YEARS OF THAT GUNS, ADA, I GET TO DIG INTO THE FILES ALL THE TIME.
AND NOW THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF, HAVEN'T HAD IT FOR NINE MONTHS.
UM, IT FALLS ON, ON ME TO LOOK FOR THOSE THINGS, BUT I'VE ASKED THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY'VE GOT THAT.
AND I WOULD ASK YOU, I USED TO LOOK, UH, I ASSUME THAT, THAT AT LEAST THAT THOSE TWO WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE IT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN NECESSARILY LAY MY HANDS ON IT.
AND SO JUST BEING REALISTIC, I THINK WE CAN ASK BJ, I MEAN, WE'LL TAKE COUNSEL'S GUIDANCE.
WE REPORT ON THIS TOPIC, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO, WE'RE HAPPY TO, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED IN ANYTHING THAT'S THERE.
AND, UM, UH, SINCE, SINCE THERE A LONG TIME HAS PASSED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYONE IS IN, UH, THE AGREEMENT IS, IS UPHELD AND IN THE SPIRIT OF WHICH IT WAS WRITTEN.
SO THAT'S ALL, SO THIS ISN'T A NEGATIVE.
I JUST WANT IT BECAUSE I DID LEAN OVER TO, UM, THE CHAIRMAN.
I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT BJ WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO COME TO KNOW, SO YOU, FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE AND STUFF, CAN I INTERJECT A LITTLE BIT OF A FOOD FOR THOUGHT? SO THIS ISN'T A SPECIFIC ABOUT ANY, ANY ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE'D HAVE TO KIND OF COME TO GRIPS WITH IS NO CONSOLE STOOD US UP AS, AS AN ENTITY.
UM, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR WHICH WE CAN WORK OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS.
YOU CAN WORK WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS, YOU HAVE PROPERTY WITHIN THE LIMITS.
SO W WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? EVEN FIVE TO 10 YEARS, RIGHT? W WHAT, HOW, HOW ARE THOSE GOALS GETTING ALIGNED FOR, IF YOU OWN A PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING
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TO A POTENTIAL AND THEY SEE THAT PROPERTY, BUT IT'S YOURS OR VICE VERSA, RIGHT.THESE ARE, THESE ARE WHAT I CALL RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
AND, UM, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, THAT WE DO THAT, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY DRAWN UP WHY, AND I HAVEN'T SHARED IT WITH STEVEN YET, BUT, UH, PSEUDO LET'S START WITH THAT, UH, OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, THAT WE, WE OUGHT TO DO, WE SHOULD BE IN MY VIEW, IN THE BUSINESS OF WORKING TOGETHER.
I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES GREAT MAKES SENSE.
AND IF WE, IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, MAYBE WE WOULD GET COUNCIL ON THE BOARD OF, TO WORK TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, I WEAR ROSE COLORED GLASSES.
SO, WELL, FUNDAMENTALLY THE HIGH LEVEL OBJECTIVES ARE THE SAME FOR BOTH ENTITIES, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO OR THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE TAKING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE SAME STEPS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, BUT, BUT WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE A PROPERTY YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE OUGHT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF SITTING DOWN AND TALKING ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, IT'S PART OF MY, MY BELIEF THAT IS WE HAVE THINGS IN THE TOWN, UM, THAT, UM, WE WE'D BE IN THE BUSINESS OF, UH, COMING, UH, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY TO TOWN MANAGER, BUT, UH, ULTIMATELY TO, TO HERE, AND THEN YOU'D WORK IT THROUGH YOUR PROCESS ON THINGS, UM, TO DO IT.
AND LIKEWISE, UH, IF, IF SOMETHING LIKE, UM, UH, THAT'D BE GREAT TECHNOLOGY PART, WHICH IS DOWN IN COUNTY, THAT WE WORKED THERE, THAT WE WORKED TOGETHER AT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'D WANT TO DO WHEN, WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, NO POACHING KIND OF, UH, A THING MAKES COMPLETE SENSE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE AREN'T, UH, HEY, UH, WE CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER DEAL, YOU KNOW? WELL, THAT ONLY HELPS ONE GROUP AND A DATE, AND EVEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE COMPANY COMING IN AND TRUST ME, THEY WOULD PLAY THOSE GAMES.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEGUN TO, TO THINK ABOUT AS WHAT, WHAT WOULD IT BE WOOD SOLID WASTE TO WORK TOGETHER? IS THAT, TO ME, THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LITIGIOUS AND, UH, BEING FEARFUL OF EACH OTHER AND THINK THE WORST OF EACH OTHER, WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN A PLANTS.
SO IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, UM, WHY DON'T WE SCHEDULE A RETREAT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO, WE DID ONE YESTERDAY WITH COUNCIL.
I THINK IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE BOTH EXPRESSED BOTH BODIES HAD EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN WORKING TOGETHER, SO MAYBE WE CAN TRY AND GET OUR CALENDARS TOGETHER AND IT'D BE FINE.
I'D RATHER DO IT SOON, BUT TALK ADMIN TO DO IT IN THE FALL, BUT A LOT OF IT, WELL, BY THE TIME YOU GET IT ON THE CALENDAR, I THOUGHT, BUT ANYWAY, UM, YEAH, BUT, BUT THAT'S FINE, BUT LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT FRIDAY, AND IF YOU WOULD WANT TO GIVE US SOME POTENTIAL DATES AND IT JUST WOULDN'T EVEN BE LIKE A DRAFT OF WHAT THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
I MEAN, YOU'VE RUN THROUGH THEM.
AND, AND I THINK OUR FACILITY, LIKE THE FACILITATOR THAT WE USED FROM JMU LAST NIGHT, HE CALLED, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF US TO GET OUR CONCERNS.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONCERNS, OUR CONCERNS, I THINK ARE PROBABLY MOSTLY THEY'RE GOING TO OVERLAP, BUT, UH, THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AND IT WOULD BE GOOD.
AND THEN, UM, I CAN, UM, I CAN GET A SENSE OF, UH, UH, WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE IT.
I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.
WE WERE VERY EAGER TO DO THAT.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK DID EVENING WORK PRETTY WELL.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATION.
SO JUST, JUST JASCHA, SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE WHAT I CALL IT, TEMPLATE, YOU KNOW, LOCATION.
SO, HEY, THERE, WOULD YOU ALL JUST, YOU, WEREN'T PART OF IT.
DO YOU WANT US TO JUST GO AHEAD AND COORDINATE IT WITH DOUBLETREE AND JUST THAT'S HOW YOU REINVENT THE WHEEL? THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THESE GUYS AGREE, SAME PROCESS, SAME MENU, SAME TYPE OF SET UP.
I MEAN, WE, WE STARTED AT FOUR, WE WORKED HOURS, THEN WE BROKE FOR DINNER.
THEN WE CAME BACK AND FINISHED UP.
UH, OBVIOUSLY I'VE GOT A, IF THERE'S CHARGES AND SO ON, I'VE GOTTA GET THOSE APPROVED AND SO ON, BUT NOT PUT THIS LIKE THAT.
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I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A FINE PROCESS.SHE DIDN'T GET IT APPROVED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF OUR HALF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL BUY YOUR DINNER.
HOW ABOUT THAT? I'M CARE OF THE REST OF THE BOARD.
SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO IT AND THEN WE'LL ASK FOR THE WDA REIMBURSEMENT THAT WAY.
IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY.
BUT YES, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UH, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MULTIPLE TIMES THAT ARE HAPPY TO WAIT.
WE THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING.
PART OF WHAT OUR ISSUE WAS IS THAT THIS GROUP HAD THE, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF GET YOUR SEA LEGS UNDER YOU.
AND, UM, IT DIDN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, AND, AND WE HAD TRICYCLES FOOD, SO IT WAS LIKE A, A DOUBLE WHAMMY OF THINGS THAT ARE GONNA SLOW THE PROCESS OF OUR ABILITY TO DO THIS.
SO, UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS YOU ARE SO GREAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? UH, WE WILL BE BACK IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME WHERE DURING THE RETREAT I WOULD PREFER.
I MEAN, NOT AUGUST, OCTOBER, POTENTIALLY SEPTEMBER IN THAT TIMEFRAME, AUGUST, THIS, THIS WE'RE WRAPPING UP A LOT OF STUFF WE'LL SHOOT FOR SEPTEMBER, THEN HOW'S THAT? I'D RATHER DO IT SOONER THAN LATER, LOOKING AT POSSIBLE DATES.
NOW THAT WAY I REMEMBER THAT FACILITATOR, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST FIGURE IT OUT AND GIVE US SOME COLLEGE PROFESSOR? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING IS THAT HE'D BE STARTING HIS SEMESTER.
YOU'RE GOING TO THE GENTLEMEN.
THAT WAS THE FACILITATOR LAST NIGHT.
AND I WAS JUST SAYING, HE'LL BE STARTING BACK TO HIS SCHOOL YEAR, SIDE, BET.
AUGUST WOULD BE TRICKY, OR MAYBE SEPTEMBER WEEKS.
WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE CONSULT WITH HIM? AND YOU DID IT AS AN OPEN SESSION.
I SAID, WHEN WE WENT TO, BUT THE KEY HERE IS A GOOD AGENDA.
HAVING DONE A LOT OF THIS KIND OF THING.
OH, LISTEN, I THINK WE GOT A LOT ACCOMPLISHED YESTERDAY AND WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT WE MADE GOOD PROGRESS.
SO, WELL, DO YOU ALL WANT TO TRY TO GET SOME POSSIBLE DAYS SEPTEMBER OR JUST SEND THEM TO ME? I DON'T.
I JUST NEED THEM BY NEXT FRIDAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS YOU WANT ME TO, TO, UM, YOU GO THROUGH, UH, ONE THING I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT IS AT LEAST SOME GENERAL SENSE OF AZTECS.
UM, ONE, WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT TOWN SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN.
THE PROCESS IS NOW THE LARGEST REMAINING PARCEL IN TOWN.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION OTHER THAN IT'S A BROWNFIELD.
UM, IT'S A WONDERFUL LOCATION.
SO THERE ARE THERE REALLY FIVE PARTS TO AVTEX.
SO THERE'S THE TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, THERE IS MAYBE IT'S SIX PURCHASES.
SO THEN THERE'S THE 400 KENDRICK LANE, WHICH IS THE EDA CURRENTLY THE EDA BUILDING, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY MOVING CLOSER TO, UM, UM, THE, UH, COMMERCE NEAR THE, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.
UM, THERE IS THE IT FEDERAL BUILDING, WHICH IS 30 ACRES AND HAS A BUILDING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN USED ON IT, BRAND NEW.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
UM, UH, CAUSE WE ARE BUSILY SUING THEM.
I JUST CAME FROM, UM, YOU'RE IN THE FINAL ARGUMENT SIDE.
UH, SO, UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, GO TO COURT AND, UH, AND IT IS THE BEST SHOW ON TOWN.
IF YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE TIME, COME ON OVER AND THAN, CAUSE IT IS TERRIFIC.
IT'S BEEN VERY, UH, ENTERTAINING, STOP TO WORRY, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY ILLUMINATING AND, UM, WE'VE, THE COUNTY HAS SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET TO THESE DAYS.
SO THAT'S THREE, FOUR WOULD BE THE 117 ACRES, WHICH IS THE, REALLY THE, THE PROPERTY THAT YOU COULD, UM, UH, UH, THAT YOU COULD DEVELOP AND DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF LIMITATIONS ON IT.
UH, YOU CAN'T, IT CAN'T SELL FOOD, YOU CAN'T HAVE OVERNIGHT STAYS.
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HAVE KIDS UNDER A CERTAIN AGE.THEY'RE LIKE GOING TO SCHOOL AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
SO IT LIMITS AND NARROWS WHAT YOU COULD DO THERE, BUT THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF THINGS YOU COULD DO, BUT A FOURTH OF A FIFTH PLACE WE DO HAVE SEX, UM, IS, UH, THEN THERE'S A CONSERVANCY AREA ACROSS THE RAILWAY TRACKS.
IF YOU, YOU CAN VISUALIZE THAT THAT'S 240 ACRES, YOU CAN DO ALMOST NOTHING THERE.
UM, SO, UM, WE, WE CONSIDERED, UH, DOING, UH, PUTTING SOLAR PANELS OVER THERE AND, UH, EPA WAS SAID THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE USE FOR IT.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, ALMOST ALL THE ONLY THINGS YOU CAN DO CAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE, UM, ALL THE ACID PONDS.
SO IT'S A LOT OF THE WORST THINGS THAT HAPPENED HAPPENED IN THE 240 ACRES IS IT'S, YOU KNOW, WALKING TRAILS AND, UH, YOU, YOU CAN'T DIG DOWN.
THERE IS AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF RESTRICTIONS, THE SO SENSE, ALMOST NOTHING.
SO, UM, ON THAT SIDE, WE'VE, WE, WE ARE AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE THINGS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.
THERE MIGHT BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD DO WOULD BE TO, UM, UH, UH, GET APPROVED WALKING TRAILS SO THAT YOU'RE COMBINING, UH, THE RAIL TRAIL PROJECT WITH ALL THE WAY TO THE CAMPGROUND.
SO IT LINKS UP THOSE, THOSE PIECES TO IT.
UM, AND, UM, UH, WE'VE KIND OF SOURED.
THAT'S HOW WE AREN'T AS INCLINED TO GO WITH THE SOLAR PANELS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, A LOT OF IT'S ABUSE YET, UH, ISSUES.
IF YOU GO UP TO THE FIRST, UH, VIEW SITE, THE OVERLAP AND YOU LOOK IN AND YOU LOOK TO WHERE FRONT ROYALE IS, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THAT I THINK, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SENT YOU THE PICTURE OF IT, BUT THERE'S THERE'S MOUNTAINS AND TREES THAT KIND OF FRAME IT.
AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIRECTLY IS THAT 240 ACRES WHERE THEN YOU'D HAVE, UM, SOLAR PANELS, IT WOULD, UH, IT PERHAPS IS NOT THE BEST INITIAL VIEWING OF FRONT ROYAL AND IN THAT CASE, SO WE WE'VE GOT TO COOLED ON THAT IDEA OR, UH, UH, THE POTENTIAL EXISTS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT LOOK VERY NICE THERE, BUT IT IS ON A, UH, IT'S NOT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, HAVING SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, VIABLE, UM, UH, PEOPLE VISITING TO BE ABLE TO WALK AND, AND, UH, UH, FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE TO DO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS SET IN STONE.
THESE ARE JUST IDEAS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, TALKED ABOUT ON THE 117 ACRES.
UM, WE ARE AT LEAST REVIEWING A STANFORD STUDY THAT WAS DONE THAT PUT, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRY AND OFFICE BUILDINGS INTO THAT AREA.
WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS, UM, INTEREST, UH, IN, UH, UH, UH, UH, FOLKS INTERESTED IN COMING INTO SOME PIECE OF, OF THAT.
THE FINAL, THE SIXTH THING IS THERE ARE, UH, UH, THERE ARE 88 LOTS ACROSS THE RIVER THAT, UM, AVTEX HAD, AND THEY'RE ALL POTTER OF, UH, I THINK IT'S RIVERMONT ACRES.
UM, AND, UM, MOST OF THEM ARE, ARE TINY.
YOU REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH, AND THEN SOME OF THEM HAVE REAL ISSUES WITH THEM.
THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS OVER THERE THAT ARE VERY PLIABLE AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY GIVEN ANY SERIOUS THOUGHT TO THAT.
BUT, UM, IF A, UM, IF A, UH, UH, A RIVER OUTFITTER WE'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING, UM, PLACES FOR PUT IN, OR, OR PICNICKING OR SOMETHING, OR IF THE TOWN COUNTY AND BEING COUNTY PROPERTY, BUT IN THE COUNTY, BUT, UH, THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE, UH, WE WE'VE DISCUSSED, BUT NO GREAT DETAIL.
UM, OTHER OTHER ONES I CAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES, UH, RAIL LANE, UM, THIS WAS THE CONTROVERSY OF WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT.
AND, UH, WE, WE GOT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BACK.
UM, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO DEVELOP THAT IT'S VERY STEEP.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A GREAT, A GREAT USE FOR IT, BUT POTENTIALLY SOME KIND OF HOUSE IN MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE THERE, YOU COULD ALSO JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHERE OUR LANE IS.
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THE BOWLING CENTER.KIND OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, AT THE END OF IT NEXT TO RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE DAYCARE.
UM, BUT YOU COULD, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY PUT SOMEBODY THERE, BUT WE, AGAIN, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON, UM, UH, UH, UNCERTAIN PROPERTIES AND, UH, WITH A FIVE MEMBER BOARD, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING IDEAS AND WE'D APPRECIATE HAVING INPUT.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WENT FORWARD TO WORK.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATING WITH YOU AS WELL.
SO, SO THE TAKEAWAY IS IN SEPTEMBER, I'M GONNA WORK WITH, UH, DR.
ALEXANDER, UM, TO FIND OUT WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE, THEN BASED ON THAT, SHARE SOME DATES AMONG THE GROUP AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
SO LET'S JUST, LET'S KEEP AT IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH, WHO YOU COULD.
WELL, I, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET A CLEAN COPY TO A MASS DISTRIBUTED.
NO, I, YOU KNOW, YOUR ART'S PRETTY GOOD.
IT'S BETTER THAN A MUG, UH, WHO PRESENTED THIS DOPE? UM, NO, UM, UH, DOUG PARSONS.
DOUG, YOU WERE PART OF THAT MEETING.
WELL, I PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN TO, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE, TINA, THAT YOU MAY HAVE THIS AS PART OF THE MINUTES.
I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WERE BOTH LOOKING AT THE SAME THING AND WHERE THIS WAS HANDED OUT.
UM, I PROBABLY, UH, LET ME GO BACK AND I'LL GO LOOK FOR THIS, WHATEVER, RIGHT.
AND A BACK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THERE WAS LIKE A FRONT AND A BACK WITH THE PROPERTIES LISTED NUMBERS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE MINUTES.
I, I FEEL LIKE MR. BROWN WAS THE ONE THAT HANDED IT TO US, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY GAVE IT TO YOU TO GIVE TO US.
I JUST DON'T, UH, IT WASN'T WHAT I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT ONE OR I WOULDN'T HAVE GONE TO LOOK FOR IT.
AND THE, UH, AN EDA THAT'S LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, SEVEN YEARS OF NORMAL HUMAN RIGHTS.
SO YOU GUYS WILL UNDERSTAND THAT SNOWED.
SO WE STAYED BUSY AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPENING.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH YOU AND COORDINATING WE'RE HERE AT MORROW.
SO IT WAS JUST, HOW DO WE MAKE IT WORK? SO THERE WERE, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THE TAKEAWAY IS THE PROPERTY YOU HAVE WORKING WITH HORN AND COUNSEL IS WE, WE, WE WANT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE ZONE.
AND SO WHEN WE DO THE COMP PLAN, THE ZONE IS THERE AND THERE'S PREDICTABILITY AND BALANCING THE PYRITE VERSUS ANY SUP THAT NEEDS TO BE ATTACHED WITH THAT ZONING.
YOU ALL, AND COUNCIL AND PLANNING REALLY NAILED DOWN WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE TOWN THAT RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET INSTEAD OF AFTERWARDS, THEN GOING TO COUNCIL REZONING.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, HOW DID THIS RIGHT? SO WE NAIL THAT TO HIM.
SO HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO START WORKING ON IT.
IT'S GOOD TO, GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS GET UP AND RUN IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.
WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT AT MY HOUSE.
WE'RE DOWN IN BENTONVILLE BECAUSE I NEED TO PRINT SOMETHING.
HE SAID, HE SAID, I SECOND HIS EYE
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OKAY.I JUST NOTICED WHAT, LIKE WE SKIPPED AND THREE AND FOUR, IT WENT TO FIVE.
ACTUALLY I SAW IN THE PARKING LOT, WALKING OUT THE BACK PARKING LOT OF MARIANO, IT'S GOING TO BE JUST EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WORKING IN GOOGLE, LIVE HERE BETWEEN AUSTIN SPOTS, THE RAIL LINE.
SHE'S SHOWING YOU RIGHT THERE.
BUT WHAT'S IT DO HERE? IT JUST STOPPED.
IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A TURNAROUND HERE AT THE VFW.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS YOU NEED TO GET THOSE PEOPLE DOWN HERE DRINKING, RIGHT? SO REMAIN A COMMERCIAL.
RIGHT? SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS BE ABLE TO CONNECT THIS TRAIL DOWN HERE, BRING IT DOWN.
I WAS LIKE,
I REMEMBER SOMEBODY CALLS IN AND THEY'RE LIKE, CAN I DO BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
OH, THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHERE'S THE GREEN WAY WHERE OUR TRAILS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE MAYBE ABSOLUTELY
SO ANYTHING IN THE FLOODWAY HAS TO BE BUILT ABOVE BASE, FLOOD ELEVATION.
THAT'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND TRICKY TO BUILD.
AND THEN YOU NEED EXTRA APPROVALS INSURANCE, ALL THAT CRAP.
SO IF YOU CAN BRING THE TRAILS RAIL TRAIL, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON DOING A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THROUGH HERE, RIGHT? FRED OR ANDREW PROPERTY.
THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED TO PEANUT.
THEY TALKED TO PO, AND THEN THIS IS WHERE THE COUNTY IS TALKING ABOUT DOING THEIR TRAIL.
THIS IS THE AREA RIGHT HERE THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, IF YOU COULD CREATE A LOOP THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND, LOOPS DOWN, WE BRING THEM THROUGH KRIZER CONNECT BACK SAFELY TO THE DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN THEY CAN RIDE RIGHT BACK
YOU CAN LITERALLY CREATE A LITTLE RAIL TRAIL THAT BASICALLY FOLLOWS OUR FLOODWAY.
YOU JUST KIND OF CROSS KRIZER IF WE CAN GET THE GREEN, THE GREENWAY IN HERE.
UM, SO ON THE COMP PLAN, I TOLD THEM JAMES, THE MAP, I WANT TO PUT CONSERVATION IN THE LOVE WAYS.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE IT CURIOSITY.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY MILES WOULD THAT BE? 15 MILES.
AT LEAST SOMETIMES I THOUGHT HE HAD TO GO IN THE FIRST TIME, AROUND 70% OF THE INFORMATION AND THEN
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7.1.WHAT DOES THAT TRAIL THAT YOU'RE BUILDING THOSE AROUND THE TOWN CONSERVATION.
IF WE CAN GET IT WALKING OR BIKING AND BIKING, NOT RAIL
THESE ARE HARD PLACES, TOO EXPENSIVE.
SOUTH STREET, COUNCIL MARSHALL, ALONG THE WATERWAY.
IF YOU LOOK HERE, THIS IS WHERE I THINK THIS IS WHERE IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE.
THAT CAN BE REAL SCARED ABOUT HEIGHTS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
UM, SO, UH, I GUESS WHERE WE ARE AS THE, UH, WELL, LET ME ADD, I TOLD HER SHE DOES IT.
THIS IS AN ITEM YOU'LL HAVE TO PUT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE MARKETING REPORT.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED HAS TWO MONTHS, SO I'LL RELY ON THE CHAIRMAN TO FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL THAT SAYS ELIZABETH LEWIS.
WELL, WHAT HAPPENED? SHE WOULD JUST GIVE YOU THE RUNDOWN BECAUSE BETHANY, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND SHE WOULD JUST, BUT THE POINT OF IT IS TO GET A RE REPORT.
SO THEN, UH, I GUESS WE'RE IN THE BYLAWS.
YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THE BYLAWS, UM, BY AND LARGE, EVERYTHING IS, UH, IS FINALIZED, UH, WITH, UM, DJ ONE OF THE LAST MINUTE, BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL LAST NIGHT AND SOMEWHERE IN HERE, YOU JUST GOTTA TRUST DJ.
AND I WILL ADD THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THE TOWN'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT WAS NOT IN HERE.
AND SO SINCE WE'RE GOING THAT ROUTE, THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
BUT THESE HAVE BEEN EDITED BASED ON OUR JOINT MEETING.
THE REVISIONS ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND CROSSED OUT.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE WILL NEED TO ADD TO THE MOTION TO ADD THE PROCUREMENT POLICY THAT'S NOT IN HERE.
SO YOUR MOTION WILL BE TO APPROVE THE BYLAWS AS PRESENTED WITH THE AMENDMENT.
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THE BYLAWS? I MEAN, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSION THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT THEN I'M HAPPY.ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, WE'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 25TH AMENDMENT.
UH, IT TAKES US TO RETAIL STRATEGIES AS CHAIRMAN.
UM, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD AND ALSO TREATS AND JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION BOARD ASKED ME TO BRING THIS BACK, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL TO HIRE RETAIL STRATEGIES, TO, TO DO SOME ANALYSIS AND CONSULTANT SERVICES, TO TARGET, UH, WHAT TYPE OF RETAIL, UM, BRITA PILLS THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING ON.
PAGE 10, IS THERE ON THE GREEN SHEET FOR EVERYONE? PAGE 10, IS THERE ULTIMATELY THE PAYMENT? THE GOOD NEWS IS WE REALLY GOT A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE HONOR THIS STATE PROCURED IT FALL IN OUR PAWS WHO WERE ALLOWED TO RIDE AND OTHER LOCALITIES, YOUR COUNTY ALREADY HAD A CONTRACT WITH THEM THAT THEY DIDN'T NEGOTIATE NEGOTIATIONS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND SO WE WERE, HEY, WE'RE WILLING TO HONOR FAIR RIGHTS.
UM, SO WE FOLLOWED ALL THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, UH, CHAIRMAN AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO, UM, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A FEW WEEKS SINCE WE SAW THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, AND WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSION THEN, UH, I, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO ASSESS WHERE WE ARE.
I REALIZED THAT THIS SUMMER, SOME OF THESE FOLKS ARE ALREADY HERE AND THEN THIS COMPANY ROUTINE WITH, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS NO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I'M IN FAVOR WASTED LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT FIRST, YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST YEAR IS CRUCIAL KNOW, KNOWING, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT MORE IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE.
THERE'S HOLES THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH OR TARGETED.
I THINK THAT FIRST, HE WILL GAIN A LOT OF INSIGHT THOUGH, WHERE WE'D OKAY.
THIS IS A YEAR BY YEAR CONTRACT, RIGHT? FOR A WRITTEN GLOBAL STYLE, RIGHT.
WELL, THEY'RE REQUESTING THEY ARE, THERE WOULD, I DON'T KNOW, OH, THIS PROPOSAL.
AND IF I NEED TO GO BACK,
SO IT WOULD BE A TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE OF A HUNDRED, $15,000.
AND THAT LOCKS US UP TO A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.
UM, THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WERE INITIALLY THIS MEETING WAS THAT IT WOULD BE $60,000.
AND I WOULD POINT OUT, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT THAT WAS, I GUESS, OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS COMING AWAY FROM THAT, THAT FIRST PRESENTATION.
AND THEN IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE WAY IT WAS COMMUNICATED.
UH, DIDN'T REFLECT ON HOW THE, YOUR COUNTY'S CONTRACTS ARE STRUCTURED.
SO IF IT, OR WOULD LIKE TO PAUSE ON THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO BACK, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN THE PAST, RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO TO SOME EXTENT, UM, AND IT WOULD BE PAID EACH FISCAL YEAR.
UH, SO AGAIN, THIS AGREEMENT IS THE AGREEMENT.
WE BILL THAT THREE YEARS, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT.
UM, I WILL, I WILL GO BACK AND SEE WHAT WE DO.
I MEAN, WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THEIR PRESENTATION WAS THAT, THAT IT WAS THREE YEARS AND RENEWED ANNUALLY.
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IT WAS STRONGLY URGE THAT WE WOULD RENEW, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT SECOND AND THIRD SEGMENT, BUT WE COULD BACK OUT OF IT.I, I, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD IN THAT PRESENTATION.
THAT IS ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE SERVICES INSIDE THE CONTRACT UP TO ONE 15 WITH THE FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD YEAR, AS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU HAVE A BASE IN TWO, ACTUALLY WE'RE LOCKING INTO CONTRACT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FINALIZE THAT CONTRACT.
THIS IS MORE OF A PROPOSAL, BUT THERE COULD BE TERMS, OKAY, I'M ALL FOR DOING IT, BUT THREE YEARS.
AND THEN THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE WORK PRODUCT.
AND THEN I DON'T WANT TO BE DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO IF YOU HAVE TO PAUSE IT TO DO THAT, I THINK, I THINK, WELL, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT THE BOARD GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE US TO PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE YEAR TO HERE AND THE ABILITY TO PULL UP.
UM, BUT WE'LL, UH, WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, THE 25TH, AUGUST 25TH, RIGHT.
AND OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, ALL TALKING ABOUT IT ALL NAILED IT.
SO KEVIN, WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY TRANSFERRED OVER.
SO JUST GIVE ME TWO SECONDS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO OUR MEETING IS OCTOBER 18 OR NEXT ONE, AUGUST 18TH.
AND THE COUNCIL MEETING IS THE ACTUAL REGULAR SCHOOL AUGUST 22ND.
SO WE COULD BRING IT BACK AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT THIS MONTH, GET APPROVAL.
I SUGGEST I BRING IT BACK, FINALIZE THE TERMS, ACTUALLY GET A CONTRACT, BUT GRAB CONTRACT, AND THEN YOU WILL APPROVE IT ON THE 18TH.
UH, I'LL ALSO SHARE IT WITH COUNCIL ON AUGUST 8TH, YOU ALL APPROVE IT ON AUGUST 18 AND THEN PRESENTED AT THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING AUGUST 22ND.
WELL THEN THAT WAY YOU AND CANCELED EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT, SO WE DON'T NEED ANY, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION TO THAT.
UH, OTHER THAN DIRECT TO ME TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH, YES.
SO I I'LL READ THE MOTION, READ THE MOTION.
SO I, I MOVED THAT DIRECTORS HAVE TO DO THE MOTION.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY MOVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NEGOTIATING WITH THE BASED ON THE PROPOSAL AND PRESENTED AT THE NEXT COUNCIL, BUT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL WORK SESSION FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION AND SIMPLIFY AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO NEGOTIATE WITH RETAIL STRATEGY, WITH RETAIL STRATEGIES AND BRING TO THE NEXT INDEPENDENT TO THIS WAR.
FIRST, THEY'LL GO TO THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION AND TO TAKE THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON AUGUST EIGHT FOR APPROVAL OF FUNDING.
SO YOU'RE AUTHORIZED IN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO NEGOTIATE WITH RETAIL STRATEGIES AND TAKE THAT TO TOWN COUNCIL ON AUGUST 8TH.
FOR FUNNY, HOW ABOUT JUST SAY, TAKE THE, TAKE THE COUNCIL.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO DID YOU VOTE, DID YOU VOTE IT EITHER? I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME AND I THINK IT'S OKAY TO OPPOSE STUFF.
I MEAN, I MEAN, NOT THAT I, NOT THAT I HAVE ANY SAY SO, BUT I HAVE, I HOPE THAT EVERYONE CAN GO ON RECORD AS THE SAME POSE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL YOU GUYS.
WE NEED TO PUSH BACK ON STUFF.
AND, AND IT'LL MAKE US BETTER.
WE'RE STILL IN THE, WE JUST, WE JUST SAID I TO THE NEGOTIATION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, CLARITY, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE SAID.
I TOO, WE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING FURTHER THAN THAT.
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I STILL LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE TERMS ARE.THAT'S ALL I SAID FURTHER TO KNOW THE TERM I, WE SHARE THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEGOTIATION.
WELL, THEY CAN APPROVE THE CONTENT.
WE STILL HAVE TO SAY WE WOULDN'T DO IT.
THEY JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT USING IT YET.
THEY'RE JUST SAYING, OKAY, NOW YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO WRITE, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL ONE MORE VOTE TO THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS A MOVE FORWARD.
YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE 18TH FORMAL APPROVAL BEYOND THE 22ND.
SO IF HAD ONLY 18 CAN DO NOT WANT IT AND IT WON'T GO TO COUNSELING, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT.
BUT ALSO IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE BOARD'S DIRECTIVE.
DO YOU WANT IT WHERE MAYBE JUST THE INITIAL ONE YEAR, IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT TO SHOW.
CAUSE WHEN I GO BACK THAT THAT WILL MATTER.
AND YOU KNOW, IF I WENT TO NO, AND IT BREAKS DOWN, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
I'M LOOKING AT THEIR PROPOSAL.
I'M NOT SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF, BUT WHAT'S YOUR DELIVERABLE.
WHAT IS GOING TO BE NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF US, I'VE GOT QUESTIONS.
HEARING THEM FROM WHAT THEY SAID DURING THE PRESENTATION.
BUT NOW THAT THE PROPOSAL WAS ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF US AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? REALLY? THERE'S THERE'S NO RUSH ON THIS RIGHT NOW.
CAN WE HAVE THEM COME BACK, ZOOM IN AND YOU ALL REALLY AT, I, I THINK TODAY I THINK HANDING IT OUT TODAY IS GREAT, BUT DOING, HAVING ANY REAL ACTION ON IT.
RIGHT? SO ALL, BUT THE MOTION ONLY SAID NEGOTIATE IT AND SAY, WHAT IS RIGHT.
AND TAKE THE COUNCIL FOR FUNDING.
BUT AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 18TH EVER ZOOM IN AND YOU WON'T BECAUSE IT'S IT'S Y'ALL'S PROPOSAL.
SO YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
IS THAT FAIR? I, I THINK THAT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE TO DO TWO THINGS.
ONE, WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR MONEY UP TO THIS.
EVEN TWO, WE CAN NEGOTIATE POTENTIALLY A GOOD DEAL.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE COST PROPOSAL, BUT THEN THE DELIVERABLES ARE IN THAT OTHER DOCUMENT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE REPORTS THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THIS.
I'M LOOKING AT SCREENS AND THEN THE RIGHT SCOPE OF SERVICES IS RIGHT HERE.
WE CAN ALL TAKE TIME TO GO THROUGH THOSE ON THE RETAIL STRATEGIES AT THAT, AND THEN COME TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH IDEAS TO POST TO THEM, IDEAS AND QUESTIONS FOR THEM TO SUPPORT THE VALUE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THROUGH US.
I MEAN, I JUST, I, YEAH, I GUESS YOU ALL HEARD MY VOICE.
NO, WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A BAD COP.
SO WE'RE PASSING AROUND SOME NOTES FROM LAST NIGHT.
THE NEXT ITEM CHAIRMAN AND YOU TAKE AWAY AND JUST IN GENERAL DISCUSSION, WE'RE FORTUNATE DR.
ALEXANDER WENT AHEAD AND SUMMARIZED EVERYTHING.
SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D PUT IT ON THERE.
MORE DEBRIEFING, GET A SENSE FROM THE BOARD TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE STAFF ON NEXT STEPS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NEXT STEPS, BUT THIS IS I'M OPENING THE BOARD.
I JUST GOT THIS HOT OFF THE PRESS AND I KNOW Y'ALL, HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW.
SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO READ IT RIGHT NOW AND JUST TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, KNOW, WHAT WAS GOOD ABOUT IT, WHAT, WHAT WE DIDN'T GET TO MAYBE, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I REALLY WANTED IS WHAT WE GOT TO
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IN LIKE THE LAST, THE SECOND HALF OR 30 MINUTES.RIGHT? I MEAN THE BEGINNING AND NOT TO SAY THAT WE COULD'VE JUMPED RIGHT TO THAT.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT WE GET TOGETHER FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER INHIBITIONS GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, EAT SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOOD.
WE GOT A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS WITH THE PLANNING MAPS RIGHT AWAY.
AND I'M LOOKING AT YOU, NOT BECAUSE IT WAS YOUR FAULT, BUT I COUNSEL, COUNSEL, AND EVEN SOME OF US WERE KIND OF LATCHED ON TO VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THEN THAT KIND OF DISTRACTED FROM KIND OF GETTING TO THAT GOAL SETTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK FOR US? BUT WE GOT TO THAT POINT PROBABLY ALIVE FACILITATORS.
WELL, AND I WOULD, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, LAUREN, WE HAD A DISCUSSION, BUT I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I LOVE THE STUFF THAT'S ON THE COMPUTER THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DREW THAT LINE WITH THE SEVEN MILE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE HIKE OR WHATEVER.
BUT I STILL THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME STATIC DISPLAYS, JUST SO IT'S EASY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS NOT HERE TO WALK OVER TO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT AERIAL MAP AND WHATNOT, JUST HAVING THEM IN THE ROOM ANYTIME WE MEET, I MEAN, WE SHOULD JUST, THEY SHOULD JUST BE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE OR WHEREVER WE MEET, UM, TO REFER TO JUST SO WE ALL HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEEP GOING AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND IS INVENTORY, INVENTORY, INVENTORY.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KNOW.
UM, I'VE STILL EARLIER, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WANT TO PUSH ALL THE TIME TO COME UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN, I THINK MAYBE IT'S NOT OUR GROUP, BUT I DO THINK IT IS OUR GROUP THAT WE SHOULD BE REACHING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, DRIVE THE PEOPLE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AND SAYING, LOOK, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO BE THE PLACE THAT THIS GROUP IS COMING, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THIS AREA.
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EITHER THE PROPERTY, THE BUILDING OR THE RESOURCE OF SOME SORT, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND BE A PART OF IT.
I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SORT OF LIKE WHAT THIS GROUP IS KIND OF SOME OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS MAP IS GREAT.
ALSO UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PLAYERS SAY ON MAIN STREET, YOU KNOW, EARLIER IN THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE VACANCIES IN TOWN AND YOU KNOW, WHO OWNS IT, WHAT DO THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT? WHY ARE THEY VACANT? UM, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT.
TO, YOU KNOW, GET THIS GUY ELEVATED? SURE.
UM, YOUR TAKEAWAY FROM LAST NIGHT, JUST TO BE, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T THERE, BUT THAT SEEMED TO BE THE COMMON, COMMON THEME THROUGHOUT THE COUNCIL WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO UTILIZE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND TRY AND BUILD THAT WITHIN, BECAUSE THAT QUESTION CAME OUT, YOU KNOW, OUT OR IN WHICH ONE DO WE WANT TO DO.
AND, AND THEY WERE REALLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN I, MY TAKEAWAY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING HERE IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT ON THESE PROPERTIES.
WE'RE NOT IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT ON A WHOLE LOT.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TOWN IS ALREADY PRIVATELY OWNED, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TOWN HAS AT ITS DISPOSAL TO DO WITH MY IMPRESSION WAS NOT HUGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO REALLY I KEEP LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL THEN WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I SAW HERE THERE'S CROWN AND RUTHERFORD AND PIZZA HUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER ALMOST EVEN MIGHT EVEN SHARE A CORNER, YOU KNOW, IS IT, IS IT WORTH US BRINGING THESE FOUR BUSINESS OWNERS INTO, YOU KNOW, AND SAYING, WELL, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE? THIS IS WHAT WE SEE, WHAT DID YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM WERE THE SHAPERS OF THE FUTURE FRONT ROYAL, JUST LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE ZONING IS RIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE BRINGING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND TRYING TO SHAPE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT, THAT IS MY DETRACTOR HERE IS I DON'T WANT A POPEYE'S ON EVERY CORNER.
I DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE FAIRFAX.
I'M HAPPY THAT FAIRFAX IS RIGHT WHERE IT IS.
UM, QUITE HONESTLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THIS SMALL TOWN, BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF SINCE, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN AND YOU KNOW, THAT ITS HIGHS AND ITS LOWS, BUT I MEAN, AT THE HEART OF IT ARE SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO REALIZE THEIR DREAMS AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, I HAVE TO JUMP ONTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I'LL SAY THAT THERE WAS DEFINITELY, I MEAN, YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY, EVERY MEETING I'VE EVER BEEN IN FOR 30 YEARS, EVERYBODY SAYS, WE WANT
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TO KEEP THE BEST OF WHAT WE HAVE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, MORE QUALITY OF LIFE SORT OF ISSUES, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP OUR, KEEP OUR SMALL TOWN CHARM WAS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT, YOU KNOW, WATCH WORDS OF LAST NIGHT.AND, AND SO THAT, THAT WILL BE OUR CHALLENGE GOING FORWARD IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BALANCING ACT, RIGHT? SO CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE WALK THROUGH A CERTAIN SET OF STREETS AND JUST GET SOME ADDRESSES AND SIGNS AND KNOW WHAT PROPERTIES ARE VACANT? I, I, TO ME, WE'RE, WE ARE ALL AMBASSADORS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE OUT AND YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
ONE OF THE GUYS GOING INTO THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONE OF THE FIRST PHONE CALLS THAT GETS MADE, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, IT'S TRUE.
I, IS THERE ANY, ANYWAY, I MEAN, DON'T BE BASHFUL, DON'T BE BASHFUL SAY, HEY, I'M ON THAT BOARD AND WE ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP AN INVENTORY OF AVAILABLE AND WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION WITH THIS PROPERTY, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND, AND THEN I KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN WE NEED TO PUT IT INTO A DATABASE, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S GOTTA BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY OWNING PROPERTIES THAT DON'T, THEY'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THEIR OWN INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE NOT SEEING, WE'LL BE THRILLED IF WE CONTACTED THEM AND SAID, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, IF WE MAKE AN INTRODUCTION, IT'S SOMETHING THEY MIGHT NOT EVER, THEY MIGHT SIT ON THE FENCE FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE THEY EVER GET THAT.
MAYBE IN FIVE YEARS, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS A COMPANY AND I WANTED, YOU KNOW, SOME QUICK, SIMPLE WORK, AND I KNEW THAT WE WERE HERE AND I COULD SAY, WELL, IF I'M LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, 27,000 SQUARE FEET AND I NEED, YOU KNOW, X, X, Y, AND Z, RIGHT.
AND WE KIND OF HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, BUILT INTO THAT, BUILT INTO WHAT WE KNOW, AND I CAN SAY, NO, THIS IS IT.
YOU KNOW? AND, AND THEN I THINK WE'VE DONE OUR JOB.
WE'RE BRINGING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GETTING THAT, THOSE TWO THINGS DONE, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO BRINGING HOPEFULLY SOME ECONOMIC, YOU KNOW, BE AT SMALLER, LARGE.
UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT IT FROM THE GET GO, I DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF LARGE STUFF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.
I THINK THAT'S FAIR, UM, WITHIN THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEW BIG THINGS THAT WE CAN DO INITIALLY THAT THAT'LL LOOK GREAT AND BE GREAT.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, NOT BEING ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS IS SORT OF LIKE, IT MAKES WHAT HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER, UM, YOU, ME AND JEFF.
I THINK YOU NEED SOME SORT OF WEB PRESENCE.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT AND START WORKING TOWARDS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK OUR WAY TO COMPANIES THAT ARE FROM OUT OF HERE AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, I FIND THINGS BY SEARCHING AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF PEOPLE, EVEN KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK IF I WAS A COMMERCIAL REALTOR AND I HAD ONE OTHER PERSON THAT WAS GOING TO HELP ME FIND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT SALE, I I'D BE SAYING, OKAY, HERE ARE, HERE'S A LIST OF 15 PROPERTIES THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU KNOW? UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL DRIVE AROUND AND YOU'D SEE LOTS OF VACANT STUFF THAT'S SITTING THERE.
YOU KNOW, I JUST SAW THIS PIZZA HUT ON THE FRONT COVER OF THIS.
AND I WAS LIKE, I DRIVE BY THAT ALL THE TIME.
WHAT ON EARTH? YOU KNOW HOW, UM, IT'S JUST WEIRD THAT IT'S STILL SITTING ANYWAY.
NO, IT'S BEEN LEASED LAST NIGHT, MAYBE MORE BABY, TOO MUCH ON MY PROPERTY.
NO, I JUST, I I'M JUST SAYING THESE THINGS WHERE I STILL THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S THIS GROUP THAT TELLS US THAT MAYBE IT'S JUST AROUND EYEBALLS THAT SAY WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
YOU KNOW? UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS IMPRESSED WALKING DOWN MAIN STREET THE ONE DAY WE WENT TO THE RETREAT AT THE, AT THE MILL.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING IN ALL, I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE GONE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
IT WAS, UM, I DON'T GET OUT MUCH.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE
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A PART OF A, ANY OTHER COMMENTS.JUST THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WALKING TALKED ABOUT TALKING TO BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, ON THE INITIAL, YOU KNOW, JUST AS A THOUGHT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW DID, HOW DO WE BRING THOSE BUSINESSES TO THIS BOARD? YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND START DOING THAT RIGHT AWAY WITH, WITH WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW? UM, CAUSE I I'M A BILLBOARD PUT ME OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, I CAN BRING US PEOPLE JUST BASED OFF OF MY, WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.
UM, BUT HOW WOULD I, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD APPROACH TO THAT? I'VE BEEN QUESTIONED THAT HAPPENED.
I MEAN, I MEAN THEIR STUDY WOULD LET YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU NEED, BUT SOMEBODY THAT ALREADY HAS A BUSINESS THAT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T KNOW THERE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEIR OPPORTUNITIES MAY BE BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR WHAT THEIR VISION IS, YOU KNOW? UM, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, ISAAC, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU STARTED YOUR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW COULD WE HAVE SUPPORTED THAT BUSINESS TO GROW, YOU KNOW, OR HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITIES TO STAY, YOU KNOW, IN THIS COMMUNITY OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, I, I KNOW THAT, I MEAN, AGAIN, MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S ISAAC'S JOB.
I MEAN, HE HAD TO DO HIS OWN MARKET RESEARCH.
HE HAD TO DO, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF AND SAY, IS THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WAS MY JOB, YOU KNOW, IS IT VIABLE IN THIS COMMUNITY? WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I GOT PHONE CALLS WERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU DOING? UM, YOU KNOW, I'D NEVER PAID $40 FOR DINNER.
WHY DID YOU BOTHER CALLING ME? YOU, YOU KNOW, THANKS.
BUT IT WAS JUST, IT'S ODD, YOU KNOW? AND, AND, UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK THOUGH THE IDEA IS THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S VACANCY AND THAT BUSINESS KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AND SO REALLY ALL WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO FILL THE VACANCY.
AND THEN, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A PLUS PLUS FOR THE TOWN, IF IT'S A JOB AND, AND SOME TAX REVENUE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK ULTIMATELY THE JOB, AND I THINK JEFF SAID, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING, NO JOBS IN TEXAS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT ANYTHING THAT THEY, THEY OWN IS NOT GENERATING TAXES, TAX EXEMPT, PAY TAXES.
BUT IN THE FUTURE, IN THE FUTURE SOONER, IF SOMETHING GOES IN THERE AND THEN YOU PUT, THEY PUT MACHINERY AND ALL THAT, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT DOES THIS, THERE'S SO MUCH PROPERTY.
THAT'S NOT ON THE TAX ROLLS RIGHT NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW, NO, I AGREE WITH ERIC, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, NOT THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GETTING, NOT FROM THEM, BUT YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THESE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE PROPERTY OR MAYBE THEY HAVE SEVEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING SOME TAX REVENUE THERE, BUT IF IT'S VACANT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE OTHER STUFF.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE OLD SALES TAX.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE PROPERTY TAX OTHER OUTSIDE FROM AN ACTUAL, RIGHT.
SO, UM, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO SOME POINT IN TERMS OF, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PROMISE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DELIVER, UM, PROSPERITY.
THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THAT THEMSELVES.
THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR JOB AS A, AS AN INDEPENDENT, I, AS AN ENTREPRENEUR.
BUT AS A, UM, AS AN ENTITY HERE WE ARE, WE GOT A GREAT SPOT FOR YOU.
WE'RE ALMOST NOT REAL ESTATE AGENTS, BUT IN A WAY, UM, LOWER SOME OF THOSE HURDLES THAT IT TAKES.
ALL RIGHT, ISAAC, HOW'D YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO MOVE INTO THE PLACE THAT YOU MOVED INTO.
I'M A, WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WAS THE BIGGEST PART OF IT.
DID YOU JUST WALK DOWN MAIN STREET AND SEE A, I'VE BEEN BROWSING FOR AWHILE? JUST FINDING SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANTED TO WALK ME TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, AND TO GLEAN OFF OF RESTAURANT AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE THEIRS.
WHEN MY WIFE WAS LOOKING AT ME, SHE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE CLOSE TO THE COFFEE SHOPS ON MAIN STREET.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE NIGHT LAST, LAST DECEMBER I HAD, YOU KNOW, FRANK HAD A CHRISTMAS PARTY AND HE WAS GOING TO SEE ISAAC FIRST THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE MADE IT A WHOLE COMMUNITY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY PERSON DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT LEAVE, YOU KNOW,
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ISAACS AND COME TO ME FOR A MEAL OR VICE VERSA OR MOVIE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS, I'VE SAT THROUGH IT.THAT WAS THE WAY YOU WENT OVER AND HAD A FEW, UH, WHO'S 80 PEOPLE THAT AT 7:00 PM LAST MILE ESTABLISHED, RIGHT.
IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM HERE IF THEY'RE GETTING IN THE CAR SCENE GOING ON.
UM, SO, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OR MAYBE A PROPOSAL, BUT IT CAN TAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, FLAVORS.
WE, WE, SO MY WIFE'S BUSINESS MOUNTAIN, MOUNTAIN MUSIC, TWO 17 EAST MAIN STREET.
WE HOPE THAT A CHAMBER EVENT, I FORGET WHAT IT WAS CALLED AFTER HOURS AFTER HOURS, BUSINESS EFFORT, HOURS.
UM, WE HAD WINE AND CHEESE AND WE HAD ACTUALLY THREE TEACHERS PLAYING CHAMBER MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST CAME AND CHATTED AND THEN A COUPLE OF QUICK LITTLE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN WE'VE BROKEN, CONTINUED TO JUST CHAT.
IT WAS NICE BRINGING BUSINESS OWNERS TOGETHER IN THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD MAYBE THINK OF WHO, WHO COULD WE INVITE TO AN EVENT LIKE THAT? WOULD IT BE BUSINESS OWNERS? WOULD IT BE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUILDINGS, BUT HAVE VACANCY IS LIKE, WE COULD DO THIS A FEW TIMES, RIGHT.
AND HAVE A NICE KIND OF SOCIAL SETTING, AGAIN, WALKING AROUND WITH A LITTLE ORDER AND SOMETHING TO DRINK, KIND OF OPENS PEOPLE UP A BIT AND IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE TWO PEOPLE, NOT QUITE TALKING AND WALK OVER AND JUST KIND OF STRIKE UP THESE CONVERSATIONS AND MAYBE IN AN INFORMAL WAY, YOU KNOW, TAKE, TAKE, UH, FRANK'S PHENOMENAL SOCIAL SKILLS AND LET'S, LET'S GET PEOPLE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT.
CAUSE I I'D LOVE TO LEARN WHAT PEOPLE THINK THAT WELL, I MEAN, SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF WE ATTENDED THE CHAMBER MIXERS, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING OURSELVES AND THE EDA.
I MEAN IT'S ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? IT'S YES.
I MEAN, IF WE THINK MONTHLY, GENERALLY MONTHLY, YES.
I SAW THE THING THAT YOU SENT OUT.
I WENT TO A WHOLE HOST ONE AT THE THEATER AT CHRISTMAS AGAIN, BUT AGAIN, THE THING THAT, I'M THE THING THAT I MAY BE CHALLENGING AND I PROBABLY DIDN'T ARTICULATE IT THOUGH AS WELL.
WHAT I WANT TO INVITE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE VACANT BUILDINGS THAT THE OWNERS TO KIND OF GET TO THERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS CLASS? RIGHT.
ONCE AGAIN, AS AMBASSADORS, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE AND INVITE THEM TO THAT THING.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OR SOMETHING ELSE, SOMETHING MORE, SOMETHING THAT WE HOST FOR, IF WE GET THAT'S, THE STUFF IS FREE TO ALL, ALWAYS HAVE A EVENT OF THEIR OWN.
YOU CAN CALL IT A CEO ROUND TABLE MEETING.
YOU CAN HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY OWNER, MEANING COMMERCIAL AND DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
AND JUST, IT'S VERY INFORMAL PEOPLE COME, THEY MEET AND GREET.
I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY LEARN A LOT MORE BY TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE PEOPLE IN A TWO PERSON, THREE PERSON CLUSTER, AND THEN POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'D COME BACK TOGETHER AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, ALMOST LIKE A DEBRIEFING.
WHAT, WHAT DID YOU LEARN? LIKE, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING THAT WAS, THAT WAS BEING YOUR INTEREST THERE? PEOPLE RECEPTIVE TO THE MESSAGE? WHAT IS OUR MESSAGE? LIKE, DO WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WE CAN POINT THEM TO AND SAY, OKAY, FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, OH, HERE, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH THE, UH, THE TOWN? IT EXA I HAVE TO, I'M SURE THERE IS.
IT'S JUST KEEPING THE DATA UP AND ACCURATE AND STUFF.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR S WE'RE A VERY LEAN ORGANIZATION AND I'M NOT SAYING MAKE AN EXCUSE, BUT THEN IT WILL BE SOMETHING, UH, TIME TO CHALLENGE FOR EVERYBODY'S,
AND SO WE WOULD HAVE AN ONGOING LIST OF STUFF JUST IN THE TOWN.
AND THEN THAT WAY, IF SOMEONE COULD COME TO IT AND THEN SEE WHAT'S GOING ALSO FORECLOSURE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT PLAYS A BIG ROLE TOO, OF COURSE, PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING FREE TO MAYBE ONE TO BE INTERESTED IN AND STUFF, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT LIST, BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT PROPERTY THERE, I DON'T WANT TO WHILE WE'RE ALIVE, BUT THERE THERE'S PROPERTY AROUND THE TOWN, AGAIN, THAT WE WANT TO CONTROL.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THE STEAK HOUSE ACROSS FROM SEVEN 11.
YOU KNOW, I WISHED SOMEONE THAT WAS ABLE TO CONTROL ABOUT THAT THREE YEARS AGO, INSTEAD OF A GAS STATION THAT WAS RIGHT IN THE ENTRYWAY, UH, SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS ALSO,
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YOU ALL NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT, WE LIKED THAT PROPERTY.WE THINK WE SHOULD CONTROL IT AND THEN GO FROM THERE TOO.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT, I'LL WORK WITH LAUREN IN IT TO SEE WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE.
WE'RE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF SOLVE IT TODAY, BUT I MAY GET BACK AND GO THROUGH THERE.
AND HE THOUGHT THAT, UM, FIVE TO OPENING UP WITH BUSINESS AND STUFF, NONE OF IT'S BEEN UPDATED.
WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION, AT LEAST ON OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO NICKY ABOUT LINKING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SITE, OUR PLANNING PIPE.
SO PEOPLE CAN JUST EASILY NAVIGATE BACK TO SOME OF THE BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I, I, AND I LISTENED TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SAY THEY, OH, IT'S SO HARD TO DO BUSINESS IN FRONT ROYAL, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST SIT THERE AND I SCRATCH MY HEAD.
AND LIKE, WHERE ELSE HAVE YOU DONE BUSINESS WHERE IT'S EASIER THAN? YEAH.
I MEAN, WELL, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN SPECIFICALLY IN, IN, YOU KNOW, UM, FOOD, THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING SORT OF, UH, HATS YOU CAN GO DOWN AND ENDED UP IN THE WRONG PLACE.
UM, AND YEARS AGO THERE WAS SOMEONE HERE THAT WAS TRYING TO DO, THEY JUST WANTED TO BAKE COOKIES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST WEREN'T SET UP FOR IT AND THEY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY.
AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THEIR ROOM THAT COULD TELL THEM WHY, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS, IT WAS JUST ONE OF THESE INTERESTING THINGS.
AND, BUT OUT OF THAT, UM, AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS WITH THE, THE OLD DDA WHEN IT WAS STILL, UM, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A MAP KIND OF PUT IT IN PLACE.
YOU KNOW, YOU ARE HERE, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THESE 12, UH, I THINK THEY EVEN HAD IT ON A THUMB DRIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE HERE DO THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOUR TAKEAWAY CAN BE, OH, IT'S FRONT ROYAL'S FATHER OR WHATEVER, BUT REALLY IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO BE A BUSINESS OWNER, IT'S TOUGH WORK.
SO JUST CHEESE SANDWICH DOESN'T MEAN, I MEAN, NOT EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DESIRE DOESN'T MEAN THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS ALLOWING I CAN GET THROUGH THIS FIRST FEW HURDLES, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HIGH HURDLES.
I MEAN, I LIKE ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS IN THE PAPER, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE CONTRACTORS, CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I PUT UP A PATIO OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW, THEY WERE LIKE, OH, LOOK AT HIM.
AND IT'S LIKE, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I DID WRONG AND I'M MAKING THE NAMES AND I, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THIS GROUP WHERE YOU KNOW, THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO BUSINESS IN TOWN OR COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE NOT PART OF THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS EASY.
I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE AND YOU KNOW, THE, WE, WE STUMBLED AND I COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE PERSON THAT WASN'T HELPFUL.
SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER? I DON'T KNOW.
OF COURSE THERE, WE WERE IN AN OPEN DISCUSSION AND I THINK, NO, I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, FROM THE MEETING LAST NIGHT THOUGH, WELL, WE KIND OF ROLLED OVER AND ALL THAT.
SO, UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU NEEDED TO HAVE TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSIONS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT TODAY.
UM, SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANT TO, I THINK IT WOULD JUST NEEDS TO READ THROUGH IT BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS THERE.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 18TH RIGHT HERE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WHEN WE DO ABOUT THE, FOR THE JOINT, UM, WITH THE ORANGE COUNTY, DID WE ALREADY SET A DATE FOR THAT? NOW WE'RE GOING TO, I'M GOING TO TYPE, IT'S A COMBINATION, GETTING THE FACILITY, GET THE MULTIPLE DAYS FOR THE FACILITY FACILITATOR AND THEN, OKAY.
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT SOME DATES, YOU SEE HOW MANY OF US WERE RESPOND, AFFIRMATIVELY FACILITATOR.
THAT THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A FACILITY WE CAN.
BUT MOTION TO ADJOURN, MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.