[Town Council Work Session on June 22, 2022.]
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HEY, I'D LIKE TO CALL THAT JOINT EATING BETWEEN THE FRONT ROW, ADA AND TOWN COUNCIL, UH, TO ORDER FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE 22ND.
UM, DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL, MR. PRESLEY? NOPE, JUST WE'RE JUST STARTING.
SO NUMBER ONE IS THIS DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO THE FRONT ROW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, PREDA PROPOSED BYLAWS AND PER GOODS AMENDMENT TO TOWN CODE CHAPTER 16, AND THAT'S HER OWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
SO, UH, JUST TO RECAP AT OUR WORK SESSION LAST WEEK, UM, THE CHAIRMAN, THE VICE CHAIRMAN, THEY ATTENDED THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE BYLAWS.
AND THEN DURING THE DISCUSSION, THERE WERE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS AND, AND, AND OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE BYLAWS VERSUS OUR, OUR COUNT, OUR TOWN CODE.
AND SO AS A RESULT, COUNCIL REQUESTED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE FRONT ROYAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO GO THROUGH THE BYLAWS AND THEN TRY TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE OR AGREEMENT AMONG THE GROUP.
SO FRITO CAN, UH, APPROVE THE BYLAWS AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN COUNCIL TAKE ACTION IN JULY.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE VICE MAYOR AND PRESENT.
THERE WAS OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND I'M CALLING IN GEORGE AS WELL ON IT, OUR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE VIEW AND ALL THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT, BUT WOMEN ARE HERE.
THE OF BONE SOMETIMES WORKS BETTER.
SO I KNOW WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THAT IS THE DRAFT AND IT LOOKS LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S CHANGED.
UM, SINCE OUR WORK SESSION, IS IT YELLOW? IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
16 DASH TWO NEED TO REMOVE AND SECTION I TRAINING OF HEARING POINTED IT OUT.
NO, I TOLD TINA, DID SHE WANT ME TO TELL YOU THE COUPLE OF DAYS I SAID, OR SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL TONIGHT? SHE SAID, WELL, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE YOU GO TO MAIN STREET MILL.
THE FOOD MENU OF LIVED FOR PLANNING.
THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER ONE TOO, BUT WE CAN WAIT UNDER TOO.
UM, MUST HAVE WHAT ARTICLES IT'S ABOUT THE TRAINING ABOUT
I LET HER, I 16 WAS ASKING THE BACK PAGE OF THE FIRST ONE RIGHT HERE ON ME OR PAGE TWO 16 DASH TWO SECTIONS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS LOOKING AT THE CODE, THE ACTUAL THING HERE.
NICE MARRIAGE COUNSELING FOR FREE TO DIRECTORS.
GEORGE SAID IT, THAT MAY BE DIFFICULT.
GETTING IN TOUCH WITH HIM BECAUSE OF HIS LOCATION AND STUFF.
HE'S ABLE TO CALL US FOR SOMETHING.
UM, SO COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE'S ACTUALLY CALLED ME RIGHT NOW.
BUT SINCE YOU WERE CALLING, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WERE YOU, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE COMING THIS EVENING, WE'RE GONNA SEND SOMEBODY DOWN RIGHT SIDE, THE LEFT SIDE TO OPEN.
THEY'RE TELLING ME RIGHT SIDES BY THE RIGHT SIDE LEFT SIDE TO THE RIGHT SIDE'S
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LOCKED.AMBER IS GOING TO COME DOWN AND LET YOU, OKAY.
THERE WAS ANOTHER THING, TINA, IF YOU WANT ME TO JUST TELL YOU WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR AMBER AND IT WAS BLACK HOLES OR CAVES, RIGHT? IT'S ON 16 DASH THREE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT I'M ASSUMING THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TO SAY, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, WHAT ARTICLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING LIKE 16 AND THERE ISN'T AN ARTICLE 16.
NOW ON THE BOTTOM PAGE, IT SAYS 16 DASH THREE.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, WELL, OKAY, GOT IT.
BUT WE CAN STILL ONLY GET TO IT.
NOW THAT EVERYBODY'S HERE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
I WANTED TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
SO, AND GOING THROUGH THIS AND I WAS ON THE MEETING LAST, LAST WEEK, OR WHATEVER ON, YOU KNOW, STAY HOME OR WHATNOT, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THE CHANGES THAT WERE SUGGESTED HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE DOCUMENT.
I MEAN, IS THAT ACCURATE OR DID YOU GUYS FEEL YOU WERE NOT MADE SOME HAVE BEEN MADE AND WE DIDN'T ADAPT ANYTHING.
WE SHOULD COME HERE AND TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT.
WE DID HAVE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS ABOUT, WELL, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE BYLAWS.
SO PROBABLY OUT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'LL JUST TAKE IT FROM THE TOP WHERE WE SAW THE FIRST.
UM, YEAH, I'M ASSUMING THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE IN YELLOW, BUT ALSO THE AREA IN WHICH I KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IN GOING THROUGH IT, PAGE TWO, THEY ADDED DIRECTOR OF THE FRONT WALL, ADA, THAT DEFENDER SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY THERE'S KATE.
IMAGINE YOU MAY HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT.
SO WHEN WE GET DOWN TO PAGE THREE, UM, ARTICLE FOUR, OFFICER'S NUMBER ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ADDED THE MENTION OF, UM, ADDING THE TREASURER OR SECRETARY TREASURER.
RIGHT? SO I JUST WAS GOING TO ASK WHEN IT SAYS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MAY ELECT FROM ITS MEMBERSHIP CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN AND FROM ITS MEMBERSHIP OR NOT AS THEY DESIRE.
SO WAS THE IDEA THERE SO THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE EDA.
SO JUST LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE, THE EDA WE READ AND ACTUALLY VOTED ON HAVING A SECRETARY AND A TREASURER AS YOU GUYS REQUESTED.
UM, AND, BUT THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY STAFF, BUT THEY WILL HOLD THOSE OFFICES TWO SEPARATE OFFICES OR ONE, TWO SEPARATE OFFICES.
FROM THE MEMBERSHIP FROM THE BOARD.
SO THEN, SO THEN THAT'S WHY I GUESS I WAS ASKING IS FROM AN, FROM ITS MEMBERSHIP OR NOT.
AND THEN IT SAYS PER TOWN CODE CHAPTER 16.
SO IS THAT FROM ITS MEMBERSHIP OR NOT? THAT WAS ALREADY PART OF TOWN CODE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? SO WE CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT OUR CONSENSUS WAS.
I LEFT WHOEVER CLEANED UP THE LANGUAGE, I'LL LET THE ATTORNEYS, THAT WAS THE, WHAT WE CARRIED OUT IN THE MEETING WAS WE HAVE A SECRETARY AND A TREASURER FROM THE BOARD AND THEN THE STAFF WILL HELP, I THINK.
AND I THINK THAT WAS MR. SONNET BRINGING UP THAT, THAT IT HAS TO MATCH WHAT THE TOWN CODE WAS CORRECT.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M ASSUMING THAT THE TOWN CODE ADD THE, OR NOT, NOT, NOT THAT WE HAVE SECRETARY OF TREASURY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT SAYS, AND FROM ITS MEMBERSHIP OR NOT, IT'S IN THE TOWN CODE.
THAT'S WORD FOR WORD, WORD FOR IT.
I JUST FOUND IT ODD THAT IT SAID OR NOT.
SO NUMBER THREE, UH, IT WAS ADDED TO SIGN WITH THE SECRETARY OR ANY OTHER PROPER OFFICER.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST ADDING THAT CHECKS AND BALANCES, RIGHT? THAT WAS THE IDEA TO INCLUDE THAT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ON COUNCIL?
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ALL RIGHT.USING THE ONE TO, UM, PAGE FOUR, NUMBER FIVE.
IT SAID THAT, UM, UNTIL SUCH TIME RESEARCH INTERIOR, SECRETARY TREASURER IS ELECTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, NOW WHEN I READ THAT, I, MY QUESTION WAS SAYS, THE TOWN WILL PROVIDE THE SUPPORT STAFF OR THE PREPARATION OF THE MINUTES OF MEETINGS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS SECRETARY, SECRETARY TREASURER IS ELECTED.
SO I KNOW BEFORE THE IDEA WAS THAT MS. PRESLEY WAS GOING TO SUPPORT THAT UVA BY TAKING THE MINUTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO DOES THAT LAN MEAN THAT ONCE A SECRETARY OR SECRETARY TREASURER IS ELECTED, THAT MS. PRESLEY WOULD NO LONGER BE REQUIRED FOR THAT? YEAH.
THAT'S HOW I TOOK IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU INTENDED.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THAT THAT'S WHY I'M SURPRISED.
SO THE INTENT IS, IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE A SECRETARY AND TREASURER.
SECRETARY IS ONLY GOING TO REVIEW MS. PRESLEY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE MINUTES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO NOTICES.
WE'VE GOT STAFF FOR THAT, YOUR STAFF.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE SUGGESTION, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT FOR YOUR
SO THE ROLE OF THE SECRETARY IS TO REVIEW WHAT TINA SYSTEM IN IT.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, HEY JIM, COULD YOU SAY THIS BETTER THAN I AM? YES.
IT, IN, IN SMALL LOCALITIES, IT IS NORMAL FOR THE STAFF TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE EDA, BOTH QUESTIONS AND DOING THE FINANCIAL WORK, THE SECRETARY, UH, REVIEWS THE MINUTES AND APPROVES THEM AND BRINGS THEM TO THE EDA BOARD APPROVAL.
AS FAR AS THE TREASURER IS CONCERNED, HE WOULD REVIEW THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS PREPARED BY THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE TOWN AND BRING THEM TO THE, UM, DDA ACTORS FOR APPROVAL.
THAT'S HOW IT NORMALLY WORKS IN A SMALL, LOW CAT OUT TO YOU THAT DOES NOT HAVE FULLY STAFF AT DDA.
SO AT THAT MADE THAT LAST SENTENCE.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT, THAT'S WHAT I, MY, MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT THOSE, THOSE ADDED WORDS WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY, I MEAN, YOU COULD ALWAYS PLAY SOME WORD GAMES AND SAY, UNLESS THERE IS SUCH A TIME THAT A SECRETARY OF TREASURY IS ELECTED BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHO WILL BE TAKING THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE THE LEGALITY ON PAGE FOUR, NUMBER FIVE.
IT ENDS WITH HIGHLIGHTED UNTIL SUCH TIME.
SO IT SEEMS THAT LANGUAGE SHOULD BE REMOVED BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A TIME AND THAT'S NOT THE ROLE, SO THAT LANGUAGE SHOULD BE REMOVED.
SO, SO THAT'LL BE REMOVED, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING DOWN TO SIX.
UM, AND AGAIN, I SAID HE REMOVED.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IN SIX.
THAT WAS WHAT RED FLAG DID TO ME, THAT I WAS LIKE, WELL, BUT WE'RE SAYING TOWNS, AFRICAN SHALL KEEP SUITABLE RECORDS.
SO ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH REMOVING THOSE LINES FOR BOTH OF THEM? OKAY.
UM, LET ME MAKE THIS ONE FISCAL, THE CALENDAR YEAR AND THE FIRST MEET UP MEETING THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH WAS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I SAID, WE'RE MOVING ON TO PAGE SEVEN AND YEAH.
NUMBER TWO, BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION.
SO NUMBER TWO, AND I'M ONLY READING THIS ALOUD FOR THE PUBLIC.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN ALL READ IT, BUT JUST IN CASE TO ME, IT'S THE NUMBER TWO, THE AUTHORITY OF THE FRONT ROW EDA IS LIMITED TO THE EXPRESS CONDITIONS.
THE TIME FRONT ROLL TOWN CODE, AND SPECIFICALLY LIMITED PURSUANT TO SECTION 16 DASH FIVE V AT THE TOWN ROYAL TOWN CODE, WHICH REQUIRES ADVANCED APPROVAL BY THE TOWN COUNCIL FRONT ROYAL TO EIGHT EDA FINANCING WOMAN'S OR OTHER AGREEMENT WITH ANY THIRD PARTY.
SO WE'RE UP FOR DISCUSSION WE'RE OF THE OPINION THAT NEEDS TO BE STRICKEN.
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MEANING TAKE THIS WHOLE PART OUT.NUMBER TWO, OR NUMBER TWO, NUMBER TWO, NUMBER TWO.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO BE, WE WANT OUR AUTONOMY.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT YOU APPROVED FOR US AND EXERCISE AGREEMENTS, SUBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, TOWN, PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO COME AND ASK YOU GUYS ABOUT EVERY LITTLE AGREEMENT IF IT WON'T WORK FOR MOST OF US.
SO YOU DON'T BE MICROMANAGED IS HOW IT SOUNDS TO ME.
IT'S AN APPROPRIATE THING TO SAY, HEY, THEY'RE HEARING ME LOUD AND CLEAR.
AND I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE SET UP A BOARD IS BECAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO BE THE EXPERTS AND TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO NUMBER THREE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO PAST SOMEBODY WITH LEGAL, TO APPROVE IT AS TO ITS LEGAL FORUM.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE TOWN CODE.
THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION WAS THAT BYLAWS TO MATCH THE TOWN CODE 16 FIVE B SAYS OTHERWISE.
AND THEN 16 FIVE B FROM THE PORTION WHERE IT SAYS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND REVENUE BOND ACT FROM THAT POINT ON COULD BE STRENGTHENED IN ORDER TO MAKE NUMBER TWO FROM OUR BYLAWS.
WHERE IS THAT AGAIN? UNDER THE, THE TOWN CODE 60.5 16 DASH FIVE B HEREBY EXERCISES.
HOW MANY LINES YOU KILLER LONG RUN ON ONE PARAGRAPH? IT WAS LIKE ABSOLUTELY THE POINT WHERE IT SAYS REVENUE BOND ACT, IT DIDN'T STRIKE THAT THAT'S CHANGING YOUR MINDSET AND THEN, AND THEN CHANGING THE CODE.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE WE COULD LEAVE NUMBER TWO AND LEAVE 60 DASH FIVE.
AND THAT WOULD STILL GIVE US OUR AUTONOMY WITHOUT HAVING THE ADDED LANGUAGE OF EDA NEEDS TO TAKE THIS THROUGH TOWN COUNCIL.
I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION AND PLEASE EVERYBODY KEEP IN MIND THESE QUESTIONS.
IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T TOUCHING ANYTHING ANYBODY'S DONE.
SO IS ALL OF THIS, LIKE LATASHA'S RIGHT.
WE CREATED A BOARD THAT WAS THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, AND TO TRUST AND, AND RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE HOPED AS WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE IN SETTING UP THE, THE, UM, THE, THE FREEDOM, THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA, YOU KNOW, ASK IS FOR EXAMPLE, ALONG THOSE LINES, SO WE WOULD BE, YOU ALL COULD SEEK FINANCING, RIGHT? BUT WITH THE FINANCING BE BASED ON OUR CREDIT, THE TOWN COUNTY TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL'S CREDIT.
I MEAN, I, THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT OF TOO.
UM, UM, THEY CAN'T SAY FINANCING, BUT THE FINANCING, OKAY.
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PROJECTS THERE THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
ONE IS A PRODUCT WHERE I SAY, DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING.
HE WANTS TO BUILD A PLANT TO OPERATE, OR HE WANTS TO ADD ON TO A PLAN TO OPERATE SO FORTH.
HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A LENDER WHO WILL LOAN HIM THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
HE WILL COME TO THE EDA AND THE EDA ISSUE, REVENUE, BONDS, SO THAT THE, UM, THEY CAN BE TAX EXEMPT AND THEY CAN GET A LOWER RATE OF INTEREST.
BUT THE CODE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT NEITHER THE TOWN NOR THE UGA SHALL BE LIABLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE LOANS.
IT IS BASED ON THE LENDER'S ABILITY TO BORROW MONEY.
AND ALSO THE LENDER WOULD PAY THE COST OF THE EXPENSES OF THAT BOND ISSUE LIKE YOU WOULD DO.
IF YOU DID A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION WHERE YOU WOULD PAY A, GIVE THE COST, THE EXPENSES OF THE CLOSING FOR THE, FOR THE BANK, UH, YOU WOULD PAY THE DGAS BOND COUNTS.
SO, UM, THE EDA CAN IMPOSE AN ISSUANCE COST, WHICH, WHICH CONTINUES AS LONG AS THE BONDS ARE, DO HAVE A YEAR AND OTHER COSTS TO EXPENSIVE DDA.
THE ONLY TIME THE TOWN WOULD BE, COULD BE CONSIDERED IN ANY WAY, UM, IS THAT, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT REALLY
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ADEPT, BUT LET'S SAY THE EDA WANTS TO BUILD A FACILITY, UM, TO ATTRACT INDUSTRY.UM, THEY STILL WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE LOAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT THE COMES IN COOK.
BUT IF THE TOWN WISHED YOU HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT THAT FINANCING THAT IS NOT ON LEGAL OBLIGATION AND IT ONLY A MORAL OBLIGATION, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS, WE PROMISE THAT WE WILL CONSIDER EVERY YEAR IN OUR BUDGET HAMAN TO PAY THAT LOAN BACK, THAT WOULD TAKE INTERACTION.
I WAS LIVING BETWEEN YEA AND TOWN AS TO WHETHER THE TOWN
SO, UM, IF IT IS A NORMAL SITUATION WHERE HE COMING IN, WANTS TO EXPAND, OR COMPANY WANTS TO GO TO THE PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THE DA IS, IS GOING TO ISSUE BONDS FOR WHAT THE, THE LE THE, THE COMPANY HAS TO FIND ITS SOURCE OF FUNDING, AND IT HAS TO PAY THE LENDER BACK.
UM, I THINK WHERE SOMEBODY'S GOTTEN IN TROUBLE IS BUYING AND SELLING MY HAND AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH THEY CAN DO.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, THERE HAS TO BE A SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR YOU TO DO ANYTHING.
AND UNLESS THE TOWN IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT REVENUE, UH, FOR A PROJECT, UM, REED, HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO, UH, THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS.
AND I THINK WHAT HAD GOT OFF THE RAILS BEFORE IT WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF REMEDY, GRANTED, A LOT OF CLEANLINESS TO PAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE WARREN COUNTY SITUATION, ALL OF THAT IS IN THE CONTROL OF THE TITLE.
IF THE EDA COMES TO THE TOWN AND SAYS, WE'D LIKE TO BUY X, IF THE PROPERTY WAS A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL SITE, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE MONEY FROM WHEREVER WE WANT TO GO HARD WITH ALL WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GRADE OR SUPPORT THE FINANCING.
SO THE PROJECT, ONCE IT DOES GET REMEDY, IT DOES HAVE A SOURCE OF REVENUE.
UH, THEN THEY COULD THEN SAY THEY DO THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS, BUT THEY WILL BE EDA MONEY ONLY NOT OUTLINE.
IS THAT A SUFFICIENTLY CONFUSING? I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY NOW.
WHEN YOU SAY THE WORDS, MORAL OBLIGATION, I, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING IS, CAUSE WE WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE AND WHERE PEOPLE TOLD US WE WERE LEGALLY FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MORAL OBLIGATION.
SO MORAL OBLIGATION IS JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS MY ONLY THING IS, IS THAT, YEAH, IT'S A PROMISE TO PUT INTO YOUR BUDGET ON A YEARLY BASIS, SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PAY THE LOAN BACK, BUT YOU CAN NOT DO THAT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DO THAT.
AND THERE'S NO FINANCIAL REPERCUSSION TO THE TOWN FOR NOT DOING THAT.
NOW, THE REASON THAT MORAL OBLIGATION FINANCING WORKS IS IT MOST JURISDICTIONS? I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN A ONE DEFAULT OR A MORAL OBLIGATION IN VIRGINIA.
UM, LOCALITY IS ONCE THEY AGREED TO PUT THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET ONLY DOES IT.
SO JEN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO THAT MEANS IF WE LOOK AT THIS AS REQUESTED AND PUT THE PERIOD AFTER REVENUE BOND ACTS THAT WE'RE NOT EXPOSING THE TOWN TO ANY SORT OF LIABILITY, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME TO US.
IF THEY WANT FINANCING, THEY DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE CORRECT.
SO IT IS THE TOWN'S BUNDLING ALREADY AT THIS POINT.
INITIAL, I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I WAS ASKING AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO CLARIFY IS THAT IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE NO OVERSIGHT INTO WHAT, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT I WAS ASKING THEN DID THAT DIDN'T MEAN THAT WE WERE BASICALLY SAYING, OKAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORD IT.
DEBTS ARE GOING TO BE OURS TO INCUR IT'S BASED ON OUR CREDIT LINE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS NOT THE WAY THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS WOULD TIE US TO.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS WE'RE TALKING TO.
ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY OKAY WITH CHANGING 16 DASH
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FIVE, SECTION B WITH A PERIOD AFTER A REVENUE BOND THAT SORRY, STRIKE THE BOTTOM OF IT.SO AFTER INDUSTRIAL DEBT DEVELOPMENT REVENUE BOND, IT WOULD BE A PERIOD, PERIOD.
EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER IT, EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER IT.
BUT THEN SO THEN BACK IN THE, WAS BACK IN THE DAY BECAUSE NOW 16 DASH FIVE MATCHES WITH THE MATCH.
NOW ONLY THING IS, IS WITHIN OUR BYLAWS.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN STRIKE THE AUTHORITY OF THE FRONT ROW.
SO ON AND SO FORTH, 16, 16.55.
WE HAVE THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN CODE PERIOD, WHICH REQUIRES ADVANCED DESIGN AND STRIKING OUT, WHICH REQUIRES ADVANCE APPROVAL BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
ONLY THAT PORTION OF THE BYLAWS TO BE STRICKEN.
AND THEN THE TOWN CODE RIGHT AFTER A REVENUE BOND ACT.
SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT COMPETING WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO NUMBER THREE, WHICH WAS ANOTHER TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WE ASKED TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IS ALL AGREEMENTS, ARRANGEMENTS, AND INSTRUMENTS, WHICH PURPORTS TO BE LEGALLY BINDING INTO WHICH THE BRONCO ADA IS A PARTY SHALL BE REVIEWED BY A QUALIFIED LICENSED ATTORNEY AT LAW SELECTED OR APPROVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND SHALL HAVE A FIXED THERE TO THE SIGNATURE AND DATE, THE SUCH SIGNING MESSAGE ATTORNEY WITH THE NOTATION APPROVED DEATH TO LEGAL FORUM PRIOR TEXT
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THAT, THE LANGUAGE IS THAT THE ATTORNEY LAW SELECTED MY TOWN COUNCIL ATTORNEY LAW PERIOD, DISCUSS THAT AT OUR WORK SESSION LAST MONDAY NIGHT AS WELL.
I MEAN, KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THAT MICROMANAGEMENT COMMENT.
I MEAN, IF THE ATTORNEY IS GOING TO BE WORKING FOR THEM, WHY WOULD COUNSEL SELECTED? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH IT.
AND BACK TO THE SAME IDEA OF NUMBER TWO, JUST ASKING.
SO IF OUR ATTORNEY IS THE ONE THAT IS REVIEWING THIS AND BASICALLY SIGNING OFF ON IT TO BEING APPROVED AS TO LEGAL FORM, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T TIE THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL INTO ANY OBLIGATION.
IF THEY GIVE BAD ADVICE, RIGHT.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY WOULD GIVE TO THAT VICE JIM.
I'M JUST SAYING, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT.
BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOU CARRY MALPRACTICE, THE DRUGS AND THE ATTORNEY'S ADVICE.
HE GETS DEEP RECOVERY FROM YOU, YOU CARRY UP, BUT NOW HE WOULDN'T FIND COUNSEL AT ALL.
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE CODE REQUIRED ME TO SIGN OFF ON ANY DOCUMENTS, WHAT YOU, IF THEY DO A BOND FINANCING, THEY LIKE TO HAVE THAT BOND COUNSEL THAT THE TOWN HAS BOND COUNSEL, WHICH I THINK THE IDA EDA WILL USE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE FUTURE.
THAT'S WHY I THINK, UM, SELECTED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
SHE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE STRICKEN, UM, THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE, HAVE SOME ATTORNEYS SIGN OFF ON THE DOCUMENTS.
DOES THAT NEED TO THEN, SO THEN IN THE MUNICIPAL KIND OF SEE, WE HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP THERE TOO.
SO ALL AGREEMENTS, THREE TIMES IT'S COLLECTED BY A QUALIFIED AND LICENSED ATTORNEY AT LAW.
SO WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE SELECTED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THE WORDING TO, I MEAN, LET ME SAY ONE MORE THING.
I KNOW THAT THE WARREN COUNTY DOWN IN FRONT ROYAL EDA, UM, TO USE THE VERNACULAR WITH THE HELMETS AND BASKET, UM, THERE ARE PROBABLY, UM, MAYBE MORE EDA IS ACROSS VIRGINIA, WHICH FUNCTIONS VERY WELL, THE INDEPENDENT ENTITIES, UM, THEY STAY IN CONTACT WITH THEIR APPOINTING.
I THINK I TOLD YOU ONCE BEFORE, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL IT IS EITHER IS BY PUTTING ALONG THERE THAT YOU TRUST TO DO A JOB.
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FINANCIALLY CONTROLLING THEM.UM, THERE THE OVER A HUNDRED, EIGHT DAYS ACROSS VIRGINIA THAT WORKED VERY WELL FOR THE PUBLIC PERIOD.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERN AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT BY PUTTING GOOD PEOPLE IN EDA, UM, YOU WILL HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE EDA IS GOING TO, UM, AND YOU'VE ALREADY SET IT UP.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO ACT CLOSELY WITH TOWNS TO DOWN ON THEIR MINUTES AND ON THEIR OWN FINANCES.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE AUDITED BY THE TOWN'S AUDITOR.
UM, SO, UM, THERE ARE LOTS OF GOOD EXAMPLES OUT.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WORK, BUT I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO GUNSHOT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
THANK YOU, JIM, FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
CAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE SAME THING, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
WE DO ANSWER TO OUR CITIZENS AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, ARE GUNSHOT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS I MIGHT ADD.
I'LL JUST SPEAK THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM FOR REASONS.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT EDA THAT WERE BELIEVED OR PERCEIVED TO BE GOOD PEOPLE WHEN THEY WERE APPOINTED AS WELL.
SO WE, SO WE GOT THROUGH PAGE SEVEN, MOVING ON TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH WE ADDED ANYTHING.
WE ADDED ANYTHING WE ADDED HERE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND DO AGAIN.
SO HERE'S, THAT IS, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT LANGUAGE WAS CLEANED UP.
AND ONLY BECAUSE WHEN I READ IT, I ASKED THIS AND I, IT, IT WAS ALREADY IN OUR RESOLUTION THAT SAID, UM, THAT IT WAS UP TO UP TO $200 PER MONTH IN MEETING ATTENDANCE.
SO EVEN IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE MEETING, IT'S STILL OKAY.
AND IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IN THERE.
DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT? AND THE REASON YOU PUT RESOLUTION IS IF THIS AMOUNT CHANGES, YOU WON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE TOWN CODE ALL THE TIME.
YOU JUST GOT YOUR RESOLUTION HAPPENS ARE ALL IN ONE RESOLUTION.
I UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, ECONOMIC DISCLOSURE, IT'S ALSO BEEN ADDED THAT THE MEMBERS OF FRIEDA, WE COMPLETE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT AND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, IT SAYS THAT DIRECTORS MAY ALSO RECEIVE THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
WHEN YOU SAY THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT, DO YOU MEAN BOTH OF THOSE? OKAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, IF WE NEED TO STATE THAT, BUT IT COULD BE THAT IT'S BOTH OF THEM.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THERE THAT NEED TO BE THERE.
WE'VE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THAT ON ONE OF THESE, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT ONE OF THEM, WE, THE TOWN ATTORNEY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THAT TRAINING.
SO YOU'RE SAYING STRIKE THE END OF I WHERE IT SAYS THE DIRECTORS MAY ALSO RECEIVE A TRAINING REQUIREMENT FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
UM, WELL, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT IF WE COULD DO IT, I MEAN, THEY MAY ALSO, I WOULD, YEAH.
I PREFER THEY GO TO THE CLASS AND GET
I WASN'T OFFERED A ROUNDABOUT WAY OF DOING THAT TRAINING.
DID YOU DO THE REGULAR ONE? LIKE ONLINE OR IN PERSON? OKAY.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I PREFER BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE TOWN ATTORNEY MAY FORGET TO SAY SOMETHING AND THAT LOOK IT'S PRETTY FAST.
SO FIRST MY FIRST ONE, IT WAS THROUGH THE TOWN AND STARTING THAT THE SECOND ONE SECOND TIME, I DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS
SO DOES THAT LANGUAGE JUST LEAVE IT AS AN OPTION EVEN THOUGH OPTION BE AVAILABLE? I THINK YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE DISCUSSION HERE IS WHETHER OR NOT THAT OPTION SHOULD EVEN BE AVAILABLE.
I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD GET THE SAME OFFICIAL TRAINING IN THE SAME FORMAT WITH ALL THE SAME DETAILS ON ATTORNEYS.
SO THE WAY THAT SOME PEOPLE INTERPRET THE FOYER REQUESTS AND THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER PEOPLE AND WHAT A TOWN ATTORNEY, FOR INSTANCE MIGHT TELL YOU MIGHT NOT LINE UP WITH WHAT THE STATE ACTUALLY REQUIRES.
SO IT WOULD BE BETTER TO GET DIRECTLY BASICALLY FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH ESSENTIALLY, AND GET THE EXACT PERFECT TRAINING.
AND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME THING, THE SAME THING, JIM,
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THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AND I HAD EMAILED WITHIN ONE MONTH OF BEING ON COUNCIL.I WAS TOLD ONE THING IN ONE AREA, I CALLED RICHMOND DIRECTLY AND SPOKE TO THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND WAS TOLD SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH.
SO THAT'S WHY FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT'S ALL UP TO INTERPRETATION WHEN YOU'RE GETTING IT STRAIGHT FROM RICHMOND, WHAT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE STATE GETS ITS BLANKET AND THE SAME INFORMATION CLEAR AND CONCISE.
AND WHAT I MIGHT OFFER, BECAUSE YOU ARE ALREADY DID THEN.
SO WHAT WAS SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO DO ONLINE? YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AND ATTEND.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF PEOPLE MIGHT BE THINKING THAT HE CAN DO, YOU CAN DO EITHER WAY.
THEY JUST HAVE ONE OF, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I'M GOING TO LOOK DUMB ATTORNEYS AND WE HAVE FOUR OR 500 ATTORNEYS IN THAT ORGANIZATION.
WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THAT.
THE BEST THING IS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S THE BOY OFFICER FOR VDA, UH, UH, THEY NEED TO BE THE EXECUTIVE.
I MEAN, SORRY, MY BAD GIVING YOU MORE WORK.
SO I MEAN, YOU CAN AGREE, YOU COULD AGREE THAT THE TOWNS WHERE YOU AT, WHERE YOU OFFICE WILL ALSO, SIR, DOES THIS NEED TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE OR IS IT JUST A GIVEN I'M SORRY, IS IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE, NO, IT SHOULDN'T BE, UH, OKAY.
ARE WE GOOD ON IF, IF WE'RE TO ASSUME JIM, THAT THE FOIL OFFICER IS THE SUPPORT STAFF, SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOIL OFFICERS, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, WASN'T THERE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAID THAT THEY COULD CHANGE IT.
LIKE, SO MY QUESTION IS AT THE FOIL OFFICER FOR THE TOWN CHANGES OR THE EDA BECOMES THIS UP AND RUNNING WELL OILED MACHINE ON THEIR OWN.
AND THEY WANT TO APPOINT A FOIL OFFICER, JUST LIKE A SECRETARY OF TREASURE, WHAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE WRITTEN IN SOMEWHERE THAT THEY CAN APPOINT A FOIL OFFICER.
I MEAN, CAN'T, YOU JUST MAKE IT BE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THEN WHOEVER, I MEAN AT SOC AND THAT GETS THAT GOOD.
BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE LISTED IN HERE.
RIGHT? THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SHALL SERVE AS THE FOIL OFFICER.
WELL, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN BYLAWS, BUT HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH DEPTH DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE TO THESE BYLAWS THAT THE DA MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, EMPLOY, UH, A RESEARCH PERSON? WHO'S THAT GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THE BYLAWS? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
WELL, HOW DO WE GIVE THEM THE AUTONOMY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT ALSO THE TRANSPARENCY TO SHOW WHO THE FOIL OFFICERS STAYED.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE STATE IS? PERFECT.
ADA HAS THE RIGHT TO EMPLOY AND PAY COMPENSATION TO SUCH EMPLOYEES AND AGENTS, INCLUDING ATTORNEY ISN'T REAL ESTATE BROKERS, WHETHER THEY ENGAGED BY THE AUTHORITY OR OTHERWISE AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS SHALL BE NECESSARY CARRYING OUT.
THE HOME PAGE OF THE HAPPENING STATE CODE THERE.
SAY SO LET HER, I, WE ALL AGREED.
WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THAT LAST LINE AND NOT ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO CORRECT.
MOVING ON TO J IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME, JAY, IT WAS THIS CURRENT, NOTHING WRONG WITH JUST WHAT WE DID OR WHAT WAS SUGGESTED, RIGHT.
I FEEL LIKE WE ALREADY MADE THAT MATCH.
AND WE DID SEE AS WELL, AND WE'RE DONE, THAT'S IT? RIGHT.
WAIT, SEE, ONLY THING I HAVE IS THAT WE STRUCK, SO I JUST GOT OUT.
AND I THINK THAT'S, AND WE CALL IT THE FRONT ROYAL EDA VERSUS COUNTY AND THAT MATCHES WHAT WE JUST CROSSED OFF.
SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT, ANYTHING
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ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS OR WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? ARE WE ALL GOOD? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.UM, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST, UM, A FUTURE MEETING WITH YOU GUYS FOR BOTH BOARDS TOGETHER AND SO THAT WE CAN GET KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR VISION FOR, FOR US.
UM, AND SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT YOU'D WANT US TO DO.
SO WE'RE ALL IN LINE, NOT IN LINE, BUT VISION, VISION AND GOALS.
AS I SAID, IN OUR LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WERE REALLY EFFECTIVE AT THE MORGAN COUNTY EDA WHEN WE ALL WERE DOING WHAT EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY INVOLVED OR 90% OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, WANTED TO BE DONE.
UM, BUT THEN IF LIKE, IF WE DON'T MEET WITH YOU GUYS AND WE GO OFF IN A DIRECTION THAT WE HAVEN'T ENVISIONED TOGETHER, UH, YOU MAY GO, I ARE DOING THAT.
BUT IF WE TALK, THEN WE HOPEFULLY SHARE A VISION, RIGHT.
SOME TYPE OF DIALOGUE, EXACTLY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A MEETING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS FAR AS WHAT THE DRAFT HAS TO OFFER IS JUST TO PRESENT.
HERE'S THE TO GO OVER WHAT? YEAH.
I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ATTRACT.
AND AS A COUNCIL, I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD A CONSENSUS ON THAT.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MEET WITH YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS THAT.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY TOTALLY ON BOARD BOARD, I JUST, I WOULD SAY WE OUGHT TO TRY TO PICK A DATE WHERE WE CAN GET EVERYBODY IS.
CAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST MISSING TWO PEOPLE TONIGHT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET EVERYBODY THERE.
I THINK PROBABLY CAUSE SUMMER IT'S TOUGHER, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE BY AUGUST, PEOPLE WILL BE, THINGS WILL BE SLOWING DOWN.
I'M ALSO THINKING IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE DATE, RIGHT.
LIKE WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THE DATES AND YOU'VE SEEN US DO THIS BEFORE WE WENT OUT LIKE MONTHS AND WE WERE JUST LIKE, FORGET IT.
IF THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T MAKE IT AT LEAST HAVE THEIR IDEAS ORGANIZED AND THEY CAN PASS THEM ONTO SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO COME.
I THINK THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING INPUT THERE.
THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GO IN THE BACK AND FORTH, BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HELP EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD THIS UP TILL DECEMBER, POSSIBLY.
WE JUST WANT TO PULL IT UP UNTIL DECEMBER.
AND THIS SPACE WOULD WORK THOUGH.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS PLACE WOULD WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE, YEAH.
WE PUT PAPER UP AND RIGHT THERE.
I THINK WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DID OUR COUNCIL VERSION, WHEN WE WENT TO, WHERE DID WE TRADE IT FOR YOU? NO, THAT IS NOT WE'RE IN A CONFERENCE ROOM THERE AND IT PROVIDED THE QUIET THAT WE NEEDED AND PLENTY OF SPACE.
LAURIE DOESN'T WANT US TO FEED OR WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO LAURIE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUDGET FOR THAT.
BUT THAT BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
WE HAD A REALLY LONG CONVERSATION AT THE WORK SESSION REGARDING THE ATTORNEY AND THE, UM, NO LEGAL BACKING OF THE EDA, WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE FUNDING.
AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHARE ATTORNEY.
THAT'S THE IDEA, RIGHT? THAT'S LIKE, NO, I DON'T FEEL LIKE EVENTUALLY I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO START TAKING PLACE SOONER OR LATER.
I MEAN, I THINK THE EDA HAS ALREADY HAD, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT CONVERSATIONS, SO.
I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FROM INCEPTION.
WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ABOUT SHARING AN ATTORNEY? OH, I KNOW JIM'S OPINION ON IT.
I LIKE THE ROOM TO HEAR, UM, THE FIRST PLACE.
WHAT YOU HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS THE BUDGET.
I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO PLAY INTO WHAT MONEY THEY HAVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY, UM, AND OTHER DO OTHER, OTHER THINGS, OTHER DUTIES.
ONCE YOU SET THEIR BUDGET, THEN YOU'LL LIVE.
UM, I HAVE SIR 14 DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS FOR NUMEROUS YEARS.
UH, THERE ARE ONLY ONE JURISDICTION HAD A SEPARATE DDA COUNCIL DOES.
MOST OF THE FINANCING WORK IS DONE BY BOND COUNCIL.
AND IT GIVES INFORMATION ON ALL THE ISSUES OF GOVERNANCE.
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NOT NECESSARILY ISSUE ON TRANSACTIONS, BUT IT'S TOTALLY WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF BOTH ENTITIES AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO HERE.I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW, UH, SO JIM, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THIS? SO WHAT TYPES OF THINGS, SO IF YOU WEREN'T SERVING AS THE BOND COUNCIL, RIGHT? SO WHAT TYPES OF THINGS THEN THERE'S 13 OTHER AND THERE'S 13 OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
WHAT, WHAT ROLE DID YOU PLAY WITH THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT YOUR GRASS? UM, GENERAL REQUEST AS TO INTERPRETATION SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH FOR A WHILE.
UM, BUT THAT BOND ACT NATURAL FINANCE ACT, ACT, UM, AUTHORITY OF THE IDEA TO DO THIS OR THAT, UM, GENERAL QUESTIONS OF WALL ART RELATED TO 15 1, 2, AND OTHER REVISIONS OF THE GOAT.
SOME THINGS USUALLY NOT ELEMENTAL.
UM, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THE UDA IS ALL AND YOU'LL CALL ON IS WHETHER TO DO THIS ONE OR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GET OUT AN ATTORNEY, SHOULDN'T HAVE, UH, A PLACE OF THAT UNLESS HE SAYS IT'S ILLEGAL TO DO IT.
I MEAN, UH, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF MY, MOST OF MY WORK WITH IS I'VE SAID I SELL THEM, ATTENDED THE DDA 11.
SO THEY HAD AN INTERPRETATION OF THE IDA ACT OR A INTERPRETATION OF, UH, PREPARATION WITH IMPROVED OR DEEDS LIKE THAT.
WHAT SHOULD IT CONCERN THAT I HAVE JUST TO REFRESH THE ROOMS AS THE EDA WASN'T THERE, YOU ATTENDED GYM OR WORK SESSION AT THE FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
AND WE WERE INFORMED THAT AT SOME POINTS WITH OUR TOWN MANAGER ACTING AS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ADA, HE WOULD BE UNDER A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.
SO THINGS WOULD BE BECOMING BEFORE COUNCIL THAT THE TOWN MANAGER COULDN'T DISCUSS WITH US.
AND THEN IF WE'RE SHARING OUR ATTORNEY, YOU WOULD BE UNDER THAT SAME NDA.
AND THE THING THAT I'M SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO, I WISH WE SAW SCOTT LLOYD HERE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INTERPRETATIONS AND AUTHORITY, UH, WE'RE ALREADY FACING THIS.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE, UH, SOME BI-RITE USES AND SOME TOWN CODES, UM, TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN DEVELOPMENTALLY.
AND SO WOULD THAT, OR WOULD THAT NOT BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IF YOU WERE ANYBODY, NOT JUST, YOU WERE WORKING FOR THE EDA AND THEN WE CAME TO CONSULT WITH YOU TO SEE OUR LEGAL LIABILITY FOR CHANGING SUCH CODES.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS, BUT I'M TELLING YOU IF YOU HAVE, IF THE DA AND THE DA HAS HER OWN ATTORNEY, UM, THAT'S FINE.
I MEAN THAT IN THE TOWN ATTORNEY, BUT THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
AND THEN JUST TO ECHO OFF OF THAT ARE TO LEAD INTO, I MEAN, BY USING THE TOWN ATTORNEY, IT'S NOT A LESSER COST OR FREE TO THE EDA.
I MEAN, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONTRACTING FOR THINGS AND WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A PECULIAR SITUATION LIKE THAT AS WELL.
SO IN SOME WAY, THE TOWN IS STILL PAYING FOR THAT.
WE'RE FUNDING IT JUST IN A DIFFERENT METHOD.
SO WE'RE FUNDING IT, NO MATTER IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN OR WE USE OURS.
PERSON'S IF IT'S PART OF THE SOUTH, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE ATTENDING EXTRA MEETINGS.
THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST TIME.
I MUST'VE MISSED THAT PARTICULAR.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO GO TO A COUPLE EXTRA MEETINGS.
WELL, EVEN IF THEY'RE DURING THE DAY, IT'S TAKING GEORGE OR ANYBODY ELSE AWAY FROM TRAFFIC COURT.
SO THE WORKLOAD IS INCREASING NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT IT IS, THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO INTERPRET MORE LAW AND SOME PROJECTS, AS WE KNOW, REQUIRE MANY HOURS AND SOME GEM CAN CITE THE STATE CODE OFF THE BACK OF HIS HAND.
BUT IF IT'S A COMPLEX THING, WHICH I ENVISION HAPPENING, JIM, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER? UM, AS FAR AS THE COST OF THESE OFFENSES, UM, MANY JURISDICTIONS PUT, UM, THAT IN THE BUDGET UGA AND THEREFORE PAID THE ATTORNEYS OR WHOEVER THE ATTORNEY IS, THE ATTORNEY SERVICES COMING OUT OF EGA, EGA BUDGET.
SO HE WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, EVEN THEN THEY USE THE TOWN MANAGER ON HIS TIME
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LIKE THAT.UM, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TOTALLY WITH YOU ON Y'ALL DISCRETION.
I, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE ROOM, NO MATTER IF THE 80 HALF EDA HAD THEIR OWN OR THE EDU'S THE TOWNS IT'S STILL BEING PAID FOR.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SAVING MONEY BY USING THE SAME ATTORNEY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE RECORD AND CLARIFY THAT.
THAT'S WHY I, MY PERSONAL IS IF WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT, WHY NOT HAVE REPRESENTATION FOR EACH.
AND I THINK, I THINK I HEAR YOU.
OBVIOUSLY I BROUGHT IT UP LAST WEEK.
I JUST, AGAIN, BEING THE TIGHTWAD THAT I AM, UH, I, IT W THAT'S MY ONLY THING HAS BEEN, WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY, BUT WE'RE PAYING NO MATTER WHAT, RIGHT.
BUT IF WE HAVE DIVERSITY, I KIND OF DON'T BECAUSE IF YOUR SALARY, YOUR SALARY, IT'S NOT LIKE AN HOURLY EMPLOYEE.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING CONFUSED CURRENTLY.
IT'S NOT IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO GO BE THE LEGAL ADVISEMENT AT THESE EDA MEETINGS, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING NEW.
BUT YOU COULD ALSO, AND I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
YOU COULD ALSO ADJUST A JOB DESCRIPTION AS WELL, ESPECIALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF ADDING RESPONSIBILITY WITH NO EXTRA SALARY IS THE THING TO DO.
UM, I, THIS IS A NIGHTTIME MEETING WITH THEIR ATTORNEY.
HEY, I ASKED YOU, UM, YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE, UM, BECAUSE YOU'D BEEN ON AN EDA BEFORE, AND YOU'VE BEEN IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY HAD THIS, UM, HOW, W WHAT DID THAT EDA DO BEFORE IT, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE, WHEN IT WAS, WHEN THINGS ARE GOING WELL, SPOKE TO THIS LAST.
I MEAN, I BELIEVE WE SHARED, UH, THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T.
I THOUGHT DOUG REPRESENTED ONE, MR. NAPIER AND THE COUNTY HAD A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY DURING THAT TIME.
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
UM, THE LAST ONE, WHEN BLAIR MITCHELL WAS BLAIR MITCHELL, AND HE WORKED FOR BOTH.
UM, BUT, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T REMEMBER BLAIR CAME ON WHILE I WAS THERE OR NOT.
UM, I KNOW DOUG WORKED FOR, I FEEL LIKE DOUG WORKED FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL.
HE'S WORKED FOR OTHER BUDDIES.
AND THEN WHEN THE TOWN DECIDED THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH NEED TO HAVE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON THEIR OWN, THEN MR. NAPIER CAME TO WORK FOR THE TOWN EXCLUSIVELY CORRECTING, BECAUSE TINA'S BEEN HERE LONGER THAN THAT.
I, I, MY RECOLLECTION WAS, I MEAN, I W I WORKED, LIKE, IF I, IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME WHO WAS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE COUNTY EDA OR LIST, WHEN I WAS ON, IT WAS A TOWN COUNTY EDA, UM, IT, IT WAS DOUG NAPIER.
AND, AND SO DO I DEFINITELY REMEMBER THAT HE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.
I, I COULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT NOW THAT YOU WOULD REFRESH MY MEMORY, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATION.
SO I THINK YOU'D BEEN WITH THE TOWN 17 YEARS WHEN, WHEN HE RETIRED DECEMBER 31ST, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
DOESN'T THAT SOUND RIGHT? LIKE 17 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU WERE INVOLVED MORE THAN 17 YEARS AGO, RIGHT? I DON'T REMEMBER.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN I RETIRED FROM EDA WORK, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT WAS LIKE A, I DON'T KNOW, CERTAINLY AT LEAST 15 YEARS AGO.
I'M FINE WITH BEING THE LONE PERSON AGAINST IT.
ALSO JUST ADD, UH, RICK DID SAY THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS AN ATTORNEY PRESENT AT THEIR MEETINGS.
AGAIN, THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION, BUT WE WERE DOING A LOT OF STUFF FOR YOU GUYS FOR ME.
AND AS YOU GUYS JUST SAW, I OFTEN TURN TO JIM OR GEORGE AND PUT THEM ON THE SPOT.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS DESERVE TO HAVE THAT SAME LAYER OF PROTECTION AND CONFIDENCE.
SO ANYWAYS, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE SHARING, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH SHARING, YOU KNOW, TELL ME ANDREW, AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR EITHER.
SO I RESTED, I THINK, IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THEY COULD BE SEPARATE ENTITIES WITH SEPARATE RESOURCES,
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EVEN AS THEY ARE FOR PERSONS.UM, I JUST, LIKE I SAID, I, I, I JUST THINK WE HAD, WE THEN WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH MORE FUNDING.
JIM'S WORKING BY CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.
SO EVEN WHEN HE SITS IN FOR A MEETING FOR THE EDA, WE'RE PAYING HIM.
NO MATTER WE SAY THE TOWN IS FUNDING AS THE TOWN ATTORNEY, OR WE'RE FUNDING IT AS THE, IF THEY'RE HOURLY, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IF THEY'RE HOURLY, THAT'S CORRECT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY WITH JIM.
WE'RE NOT WITH OUR OTHER, WE'VE BEATEN DOWN THE DOOR TO RIGHT.
AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST, YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY.
I THINK THAT THINGS SHOULD BE DONE.
AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE TUMULTUOUS SITUATION THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PUT THROUGH, AND THAT THERE WASN'T SUCH A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, MAYBE I WOULD SAY OTHER ADA'S DO IT.
BUT I FEEL LIKE WE OWE IT TO THIS COMMUNITY TO DO IT TRANSPARENTLY AND RIGHT.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE RIGHT IS BY EACH ENTITY, THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY GETTING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE SAME PERSON.
AND THAT'S WITH NO DISRESPECT TO JENNIFER DOORS.
CAN WE COME VISIT RIGHT FROM THE JUMP YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT OUT AND WE'RE THROWING, RIGHT? I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU WITH WHAT REVENUE WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH.
SO UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE DO NEED SEPARATE COUNSEL, I THINK RELYING ON JIM AND GEORGE IS KIND OF WHAT WE, AND I ALSO SAID THIS AT THE LAST THING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WATCHED THAT MEETING VIDEO.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT IS WHEN IT COMES TO A TIME OF CONFLICT.
AND THEN YOU IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO FIND LEGAL COUNSEL BECAUSE JIM AND GEORGE ARE OURS.
SO MY ISSUE WITH THAT IS IT'S KIND OF LIKE WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO ARISE TO NEED THEM.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BRING SOMEBODY IN, BRIEF THEM ON THE CONFLICT, GET THEM UP TO SPEED.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN THE SAME POSITION, SO WHY DON'T WE WORK ON A BUDGET? I AGREE.
I THINK THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HAS BEEN THE CASE IN A LOT OF CASES AND I, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT A BUDGET AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS A VISION AND A VISION AND A BUDGET.
THERE MIGHT BE MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
I'M SAYING, EVEN IF IT'S JUST MY TELEPHONE, I'M NOT WORKING.
WELL, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS I THINK WHAT THE SOLID FOUNDATION FOR A BUDGET AND A VISION AND A GOAL IN PLACE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LONG BEFORE YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT.
WE HAVE REVENUE COMING IN AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED US ANYMORE.
SO WHEN THE ADA WINS, EVERYBODY WINS.
SO WHEN DO YOU ALL, DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A NEXT MEETING OR DO WE WANT TO DO WITH, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE, BASICALLY LIKE EVERYBODY'S FINN, TINA THERE CAN'T DO THIS DAY.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
CAUSE LIKE, LIKE I KNOW I'M NOT TAKING A VACATION THIS SUMMER.
CAUSE IT FEELS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SUMMERS OR JULY.
I MEAN, I KNOW OUR JULY MEETING THERE, SOME OF US THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO PUSH IT OFF IF WE NEED TO DO THIS SOONER, RATHER THAN LATER, DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS? I WAS THINKING YOU SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
THAT WAS JUST MY THOUGHT PROCESS THERE.
I WAS LIKE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW, NEAR THE END OF JUNE, THEN WE NEED TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE WITHIN 30 DAYS.
I THINK WE LOSE A LOT OF THE MOTIVATION AND WHAT WAS SAID AND WHAT WAS DONE.
IF NOT CONTINUOUSLY MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE JUST STALLING.
IT'S LIKE, I WANT TO TAKE TWO YEARS TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND.
SO I TO HAVE IN JULY, PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE IT.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T WANT TO COME TONIGHT, BUT HERE I AM.
AND IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT IN, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S SOME, SOMETHING OFFICIAL THING WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN THE ROOM.
YOU CAN BE ON THE PHONE, YOU COULD BE A TEAMS MEETING.
SO I THINK IF YOU'RE ON VACATION, RIGHT.
AND YOU'RE REALLY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.
YOU'RE LIKE, GUYS, I'M GOING TO GO IN HERE
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AND YOU SPEND THE TIME, THE HOUR TO TWO, WHATEVER IT IS.THAT'S HOW I'VE DONE IT FROM WORK TRIPS.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW? WHAT ARE YOUR ALL NEXT JULY 14TH AT 12.
O'CLOCK JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, UM, OUR MEETING AFTER MONDAY, JULY 11TH, WITH TASHA, WE HAVE A JULY 11TH AND A JULY 25TH AND THE EDA MEETS JULY 14TH.
DO WE WANT TO TRY TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS ARE OUR MEETINGS FOR AFTER.
THIS IS NOT AN HOUR LONG MEETING.
THIS IS LIKE A HALF A DAY, BUT WE NEED TO TO BE CLEAR.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS MEET ON THE 14TH AT 12 TO ONE 30.
SO IT CAN EITHER BE A FIRST HALF OF THE DAY OR A SECOND HALF OF THE DAY OR WHEN I WAS JUST SAYING, I CAN'T GIVE UP THAT MUCH TIME DURING THAT
NOW, SATURDAY, I MADE THEM FOR A HALF A DAY.
THESE GUYS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY WORK DAY, BUT IT'S OKAY.
MAN IN THE ROOM I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS, IS, YOU KNOW, 7:00 AM TO I'LL SEND MY NOTES.
I CAN DO ANYTHING THAT I HAVE TO DO.
I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT THE 30TH OF JULY? THAT'S A SATURDAY GOT WORK ON SHORE.
I WOULD DO MY, CAN WE NOT? LIKE MAYBE AFTER THEIR MEETING, OUR SECOND MEETING, WE COULDN'T MAKE ANY BUDGET.
IF YOU CAN EVEN MAKE ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS THOSE COULD HAVE.
AND OUR 11 SESSION BETWEEN THE 11TH AND THE 25, WE DECIDED TO TAKE ACTION AND MAKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
LIKE, IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO ACT ON THAT.
SO AS NOT TO SPILL A MEETING WITHOUT CALLING AND SPECIAL, SO IF WE COULD MEET BEFORE THE 25TH WOULD BE PREFERABLE IN MY OPINION.
UM, AND THEN IF WE NEEDED TO DO A BRIEF WORK SESSION, MAYBE I'M THINKING WE CAN HASH EVERYTHING OUT IN FOUR TO FIVE HOURS OR HOWEVER LONG WE'RE GOING TO BE TOGETHER.
WE WOULDN'T NEED TO ALSO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON IT.
WHAT'S THE 16, IT'S A WEEKEND.
I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL WHOEVER'S WELL, YEAH, WE WANT TO PACK EVERYTHING IN THE SUMMER BEFORE YOU GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE THOUGH.
RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO BE NICE.
AND THEN WE WON'T BE, WE WOULD HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE 25TH FOR THE TICKET THAT WORKS FOR ME.
I CAN TRY TO COME UP WITH TO SKIP SOME OF YOUR VACATION.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT INTO BACHELOR PARTY HOURS.
YOU HAVE MANY TIMES I'VE TOLD Y'ALL JUST PICK A DATE.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THAT WELL, WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO, IF THERE'S AN ACTION THAT COMES OUT OF THERE, WE CAN TAKE THAT ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THE 23RD THAT YOU KNOW, FOR SURE YOU CAN'T MAKE IT AND YOU WANT TO BE EARLY MORNING CONFLICT.
I'LL STILL BE ON MY WAY BACK FROM.
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OKAY.SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE 23RD, IT SOUNDS LIKE AFTER NOON, YOU'RE THINKING LITERALLY AFTER 12, ANYTIME OF WORK, I CAN, I CAN MOVE.
HOWEVER, ARE YOU THINKING LIKE 12 ONE OR YOU'RE THINKING SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE A PRACTICE IN THERE.
I DON'T NEED YOUR WHOLE ITINERARY.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS A TIME, TURN YOUR VIDEO ON A COUPLE OF HOURS IN THE MORNING OR BREAK SOME BREAD AND HAVE LUNCH AND THEN A COUPLE HOURS IN THE AFTERNOON.
IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MYRTLE.
BUT DON'T LEAVE A VACATION NIGHT BECAUSE OF VACATIONS ON THESE BOARDS.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TENTATIVE OF THE 23RD AND I'M A MIDDLE OF THE DAY.
SO DO, ARE WE THINKING 12 OR ONE? O'CLOCK I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL STEVEN SOMETHING LIKE, CAN YOU SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS ROOM AT SUCH AND SUCH A PLACE FOR THIS AMOUNT OF HOURS AND PLEASE INCLUDE THIS MUCH FOOD, FEEDING EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IN THE BUDGET TO GIVE THEM A BUDGET.
ALL THE EVENTS I ATTEND INCLUDE FOOD, ANGRY PEOPLE, UM, TENDED TO, OR WHAT? THE FIVE OR 12 TO 12 TO CORE.
AND THEN WE ALL BEAT NI WITH 12, BE MORE REASONABLE OR WOULD ONE TO FIVE BE BETTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS.
REALLY? THAT'S YOUR WEDDINGS IN THE EVENING NEXT DOOR.
HE HAS A WHOLE ITINERARY INTIMIDATING.
THEY'VE MADE IT UP ON, I WOULD SUGGEST 12 TO FIVE.
BUT THE FIVE, JUST IN CASE, JUST IN CASE WE GO AN HOUR PAST THAT WE'D HAVE TO FIND, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? YEAH.
WITH LUNCH OR SOMETHING, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
WE'LL BRING A STEP AWAY OR SOMETHING.
NO, WE PREFER TO HAVE SUBWAY
GOT US OUT OF THE NORMAL STUFF.
YOU BROUGHT LOTS OF MATERIALS THAT WERE PERFECT FOR US TO BRAINSTORM ON AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND UM, WHAT ELSE I'M GOING TO BEHIND ME.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WAS HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS THAT DAY.
PRETTY SURE I ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT BUDGET.
IT WASN'T ANY LIKE, IT WASN'T EVEN A HUNDRED DOLLAR LUNCH IN THERE.
SO SORRY, WHAT WE HAVE TO DOING ANY OF THESE RETREATS ARE MEETING.
WE FIND THAT PEOPLE HAVE A FRIDAY OPTION, THE LESS HEADACHE, AND ACTUALLY IT'S MORE COST-EFFECTIVE YOU PURCHASE? WHAT'S YOUR GOING TO ACT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING MCALLISTER BOXES AND YOU GOT ME AND JOE WAS CELIAC.
I MEAN MAYOR, BUT I'M TO A DOLL.
SO DO WE WANT TO GO TO 12 TO FOUR? THAT WAY, YOU KNOW,
AND THEN ALSO, UM, AND YOU GUYS CAN PICK THIS UP.
I'M JUST, NO, I'M GOING TO FORGET LIKE HAVE LIKE SOME LITTLE SNACKS ON HAND TO, FOR IN BETWEEN THAT 12 TO FIVE, YOU KNOW, AFTER LUNCH FIVE LOOK, WHEN WE GO TO TRAINING, I JUST CAME FROM A TRAINING.
I HAD TO STAY AT THE GEORGE WASHINGTON AND THEY MADE SURE THAT WE HAD BREAKFAST.
WE HAD A SNACK BAR COME OUT AND THEN WE HAD LUNCH.
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WORK ON AN AGENDA.UM, AND UH, WOULD YOU WORK WITH STEVEN MAYBE ON THE, SOME SUGGESTED AGENDA, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR AN ORGANIZATION LIKE OURS, IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE SEEN.
I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY HAVE DONE THEM BEFORE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND UH, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE ROOM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO GET YOUR INPUT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BOUNCE IT AROUND FOR THE NEXT MONTH, UM, AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING TO THEM.
SO DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE VISION ALONG WITH THIS BUDGET OR JUST, I MEAN, SO NO PLAN YET.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE, UM, LAUREN, FOR SOME OF MAYBE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BACKGROUND THAT MIGHT BE COMING FORWARD AS WELL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BALANCE OUT THE CONVERSATION AND SHE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION BJ AND DV, OF COURSE.
CAUSE HE'S OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.
HE'S THE ONE WHO HAS TO FIND THIS MONEY.
I THINK THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD MAKE IT ON SATURDAY.
I, YEAH, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THIS TOO, SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE A CHANCE.
IT'D BE GREAT IF WE, IT WAS WONDERFUL.
WE HAD AN AGENDA BEFORE YOU ALL MET SO THAT YOU ALL COULD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? JUST HAVE IT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS COVERED OR WHATEVER SOUNDS GOOD.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WEEKDAY MEETING.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE MEET THE, YOU ALL MEET THE 11, WE MEET 14.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WEEKDAY EVENINGS FOR YOU ALL.
SATURDAYS, EVERYBODY, A SUCKER FOR SATURDAYS.
IF HE SEND ME ABOUT THE EVENING MEETINGS IS THAT YOU AND I THERE, LIKE WE COME IN HERE SOMETIMES AT SIX AND WE MIGHT NOT LEAVE TILL 1130.
WE'VE BEEN IN HERE PAST MIDNIGHT BEFORE.
SO, UM, 15 LAST MONDAY, UM, DEPENDS ON THE GIFT.
SOMEBODY RATHER GIVE UP THEIR WEEKDAY.
WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE WORK IN THE DAY, I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE NORMAL WORK HOURS.
THAT'S REALLY THE THING IS IF WE GO TO WEEKNIGHT, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE IN A HURRY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE.
AM I THEN YET FOUR TO EIGHT OR FOUR TO NINE TO BE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS WITH DINNER.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT HERE.
EVEN WE COULD STILL DO IT SOMEWHERE, BUT FOUR TO EIGHT OR FOUR TO NINE.
I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THAT TOO.
CAUSE I ONLY, I THINK WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
I KIND OF TWEAKED THINGS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO GIVE UP A SATURDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER.
UM, WHEN WE DID ONE IN DECEMBER COUNCIL, DID WE DID TWO NIGHTS BACK TO BACK, UM, THE ONLY PRO AND NOW WE'LL TELL YOU THAT.
TWO NIGHTS BACK TO BACK, IT DOES GET PACKED.
BUT I STILL THINK THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO GO INSTEAD OF A SATURDAY.
THAT WAY IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.
IT DOESN'T THE FACT ASKING OUR STAFF TO COME IN AND DOESN'T TAKE PEOPLE'S TIME.
WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS APPOINTED FOUR TO EIGHT OR FOUR TO NINE.
WE COULD HAVE BJ AND LAUREN THERE FOR THE FIRST HOUR OR TWO.
WE CAN HAVE WINTER AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE THAT'S, WHAT WE DID WITH THE RETREAT AND THE STAFF.
SOME STAFF CAME AND MADE, CAME, REPORTED AND LEFT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT AND I'LL MAKE IT, I'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, HOW ABOUT THE 12TH? THEY WON'T BE THAT'S WELL, WE HAVE THE DRUG COURT LUNCHEON IN THE DAYTIME.
SO I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE A WHOLE DAY AND NIGHT.
I MEAN, I USUALLY SAY ANYTHING, BUT UM, WHAT ELSE? WHAT ELSE? WHAT DAY IS WEDNESDAY? AND WHAT ABOUT THE 13TH? THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT I'M THROWING THESE DATES ON.
ARE WE SAYING LIKE, WHERE ARE WE SAYING? I HEARD
I MEAN, I WAS VERY DIRECT, ALWAYS APPRECIATED
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WEDNESDAY.I THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT ME AND RICK WERE GONNA FIGHT LAST NIGHT.
I'M LIKE, NO, THIS IS JUST HOW I COMMUNICATE.
SO WE SAID THE 13TH OR NO, 8, 8, 4 TO EIGHT.
AND SO WE WOULD JUST ASK STAFF TO BE THERE FOR THE FIRST, AT LEAST TWO HOURS, ONE HOUR, NO LATER THAN SIX, WE WOULD LET THEM GO AND THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR DINNER.
AND NOW I WANT TO SAY, SHE'S GONNA SAY SOMETHING.
I WOULD LIKE THEM TO GET A DINNER AS WELL.
YOU'LL APPRECIATE THAT I'M GOING TO BE ADVERTISED BECAUSE WE'LL ALL BE IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE, I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE 13TH FOR YOU TO SHOW UP.
SO YOU GOT TO SCRATCH ALL THIS OUT.
IT'S NOW THE THIRD Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD FOUR TO EIGHT, RIGHT? OKAY.
WELL WILLIAM NEEDS TO GET AN URGENT CARE BY EIGHT.
HE'S GOT AN INFECTED TICK BITES, PRETTY NASTY.
I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AND WE JUST NEED TO GET GRANTS.