[ Economic Development Authority on March 17, 2022]
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WE'RE JUST WAITING ON STEVEN AND WE ARE LIVE CAMERAS UP HERE.
UM, ISAAC RUSHING, DAVID KIDNEY, MARK, TAP, TAP.
UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 27TH.
I DID THIS VERY QUICKLY THIS MORNING.
WE WENT AHEAD AND DID ROLL CALL.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO SEE THOSE BEFORE I CAN GO OFF THE NEXT ITEM.
ANYBODY ELSE? I CAN GO RUN THEM OFF.
THE THREE OF THE BYLAWS, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR PACKET, THESE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS I'VE RECEIVED FROM MARK AND NICK PUT THEM ALL IN THERE OUT FOR YOU.
SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CHANGES I TOOK WHAT YOU GAVE ME AND SEGMENT YOUR NAME SHOULD BE OUT BESIDE NOW.
I DIDN'T DO ALL THE COMMENTS AND PERIODS AND CAPITALS.
I DIDN'T DO ALL THAT PROJECT, BUT I DID DO COMMENTS THAT I FELT LIKE, UM, THE REST OF THE GROUP SHOULD KNOW ABOUT MOTION TO APPROVE.
I THINK ONE OF YOURS, YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF COOPER NOT, UM, STEPHEN'S AWARE OF IT AS WELL.
SO FIRST BEFORE I TRY TO DEFINE WHAT THIS PARAGRAPH IS, UM, AND THEN WHEN IT'S DONE, WE WILL HAVE OUR TOWN ATTORNEY OR COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD VIEW THAT DOOR.
UM, IS YOUR QUESTION MORE, WHY WOULD TOWN COUNCIL BE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS OR DEFINING WHAT IT MEANS? WHERE ARE YOU BETTER? OH, I'M SORRY.
SO, SO FOR ARTICLE TAN, NO, SORRY.
SO FOR NUMBER TWO, WHEN I READ THAT, IT SEEMS, UM, RELYING ON MEDICAL CODES, WE'VE GOT THE STATE LAW.
I WOULD HAVE ASSUMED THAT OUR BYLAW, I WAS JUST REALLY HAVE TO STATE.
WE CAN ABIDE BY THAT STATE LAW THAT GIVES THE EDA OR QUESTIONING.
WHY DO WE NEED TO BRING IN, I GUESS IT COULD BE FOR A LEGAL REASON, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH.
AND WE'LL CHECK, BUT I DO LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION THREE WILL OPERATE UNDER THE GUIDELINES SET UNDER THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT REVENUE TO VAUGHN AT THE COURT.
AND UNDER CHAPTER SIX OF THE, YOU JUST LIE.
I DO LIKE THAT VERBIAGE, BUT THIS LETTER WILL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND THE REFERENDUM WOULD REQUIRE COUNSEL TO GET INVOLVED AND, OR REPRESENT THE BOND.
SHOULD IT GO THROUGH PER SE? THEY WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHATEVER THAT TAX RATE WOULD BE PAID FOR THAT BOND.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS VERSUS IF WE NEED TO GO TO THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT THAT WOULD JUST BE FACING TRADITIONAL LOAN, THAT THEY CAN SIGN OFF AND GO ON IT JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE CURIOUS, WHY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO REALLY BE ENGAGED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EVEN WHEN WE BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT OR REFERENDUM, THAT'S A LOT, BUT I WILL TAKE THAT BACK.
I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT COINS.
I LIKE HOW 150 WORDS, WELL, I START GETTING LOST UNDER 59.
I'M BEING VERY, UH, VERY, UH, SENSITIVE TO SENTENCES THAT HAVE A LOT OF COMMA WITH A LOT OF ANDS AND ORS BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PERMUTATIONS TO A GIVEN SENTENCE STARTS TO I'LL JUST GROW EXPONENTIALLY.
SO I JUST, GENERALLY I LIKE SHORTENING THAT KIND OF STUFF UP.
THAT'S NOT INSERTING THOSE PARAGRAPHS JUST TO SAY IF WE CAN JUST CONDENSE IT AND JUST REFERENCE THE TWO.
UM, YEAH, SO WE COULD RE WE COULD, WE COULD JUST BASICALLY
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REFERENCE THE MUNICIPAL CODE RIGHT.FOR THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE REFERENDUM AT THE STATE LEVEL, WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO SAY WHAT THOSE ARE RIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, UH, YOU ALL CAN GO AHEAD TO SAY A MOTION WITH THE CHANGES, UM, PART DISCUSSION, WHATEVER WE'LL IDENTIFY, HOWEVER, SHOULD THE ATTORNEYS THAT WE CAN THEN WOULD, Y'ALL BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THIS WITH THE, YEAH.
SO QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, LIKE, UM, YOU REFERENCED GOING TO THE TOWN FOR APPROVAL ON A REFERENDUM OR SOMETHING, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, BUT, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS BEING ABLE TO MOVE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO REFERENDUMS. CORRECT? YEAH.
THAT'S WHY I SAID WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT TO TRADITION.
THAT IS JUST SOMETHING LIKE, IF I RECALL, AND I WASN'T HERE LIKE VALLEY HEALTH, WHEN THEY DID THE, I TAKE, THEY WENT THROUGH A REFERENDUM PROCESS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT WAS SUPPORTED BAILEY FROM A STANDPOINT OF A TAX INCREASE.
I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S SUPER PREMATURE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHEN WE'LL BE DOING ANY OF THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF OPERATING WITHIN THE V D P RIGHT.
OR WHATEVER THE VIRGINIA W W YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY POWERS MORE THAN ARE NUMERATED RIGHT HERE.
SO I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, SO, UH, SO, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, EACH SO ON PAGE THREE.
NOPE, I HAVE, SO I HAVE, WELL, THERE'S THIS ONE HERE.
AND THEN I HAVE THE ONE THAT WAS EMAILED.
LIKE, I, I PRINTED IT OFF ON THE 14TH FOR PREPARATION FOR THE MEETING.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE OLD, AND THERE WAS ONE.
UM, AND I, AND I HAD A REFERENDUM QUESTION ON HERE.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS THAT SEEM REDUNDANT IN HERE, AND I'M IN, THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
AND I'M TRYING TO THINK WHERE THEY ARE HERE.
UH, UM, NO NUMBER SEVEN IN ARTICLE THREE, I SHOULD LET SOMEBODY ELSE TALK WHILE I GET MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
IT TALKS ABOUT BRIEFLY ABOUT, UM, THE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE 12 ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF BOARD MEMBERS ON PAGE THREE, AND THEN, BUT THAT'S UNDER THE GOVERNANCE UP FRONT, ROYAL BY BOARD DIRECTORS, AND THEN IT REFERENCED THE MEETINGS UNDER PAGE FIVE OR THOSE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT AT EACH MEETING.
THE NAMES OF EACH RIVER BOARD OF DIRECTORS SHALL BE INSURED.
I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING I ALSO PICKED UP BEFORE THAT MANAGES IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ONE ALSO, YOU MAY THINK.
SO NUMBER SEVEN IN ARTICLE THREE, UM, IS A LESS DESCRIPTIVE SECTION THEN NUMBER THREE ARTICLES.
I REMEMBER NUMBER SEVEN IN ARTICLE SIX IS A BRIEF VERSION OF NUMBER THREE ARTICLES.
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NUMBER THREE, ARTICLE THREE.IT'S ALMOST THE SAME, EXCEPT THERE'S A NATURAL SENTENCE HERE.
THAT'S THE ONE WE SHOULD KEEP.
AND THEN THIS ONE, UM, OUR ARTICLE NEXT PAGE.
THE SAME SENTENCE, ORIGINAL SENTENCE.
AND THE OTHER ONES BASICALLY IN REFERENCE TO MEETINGS.
I MEAN, IT HAS TAUGHT ME, I MEAN, I GUESS YOU COULD STATE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY IT'S SAYING WHAT THE CORNER AND THEN THE GOVERNANCE, AND THEN WHAT THE CORUM IS AT A MEETING, THEY HAVE TO STAY IN THE MEETING.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT STAYS IN OUR MEETING.
ALSO, THAT ONE ALSO WANTS TO ELABORATE.
I KNOW ONE MADE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE OTHER ONE, BUT THIS ONE PRETTY MUCH SAYS IF THERE'S VACANCIES, WE CAN'T MEET EITHER BECAUSE SOMETIMES ONE MAY THINK, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, WELL, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT.
I GUESS I'LL HAVE A JILL CORNWELL DOES REVIEW.
UM, SO NO WORRIES, LIKE 11 AND 12 AND SECTION FOUR.
WAS THERE ANY AMENDMENT TO BYLAWS, RIGHT? IS THAT HOW 11 STARTS SECTION PORT OR OFFICERS? YEAH.
NUMBERED SECTION THREE, NUMBER 12.
SO, SO SOME OF THOSE, GIVE ME A LITTLE HEARTBURN.
I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL WANTS TO KEEP CONTROL OF THIS POTTY, BUT DOESN'T IT OPEN COUNCIL UP TO SOME LITIGATION? UM, YOU KNOW, FOR STUFF WE DO.
I MEAN, WELL, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS EVERY TIME ASSUMING WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND EVERY TIME WE GET SOME, WE START TO HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH A CLIENT.
WE CAN'T REALLY NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH UNTIL WE GO BACK AND CHECK WITH THE TOWN.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S SAYING? 12 IS BUD ABSENCE NOW? UM, WELL KNOWN AS WELL.
WHICH ONE WAS THE STROKE? WHAT WAS IT? YOU MISSED YOU MEET 11.
ANY AMENDMENT TO THE BYLAWS? THE BYLAWS.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE MYSELF PREPARED HERE.
ANYWAY, I'LL BE QUIET, BUT I I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WHAT THE TOWN WANTS US TO DO, BUT IN MY OPINION, BUT I DON'T WANT TO WORK ON A DEAL AND HAVE THE TOWN SCREW IT UP.
LET'S PUT IT SO WELL, DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF EFFORTS AND A LOT OF TIME, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
I MEAN, ULTIMATELY THEY TO CHECK OFF ON IT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON US TO BRING THEM.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE IN THE LOOP.
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UM, LET'S CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION.UM, BUT THE BYLAWS, I DON'T RECALL REFERENCING ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME JUST TO SEE IF YOU'RE, IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
AND THEN, UM, I DO THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED CLARIFICATION.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS.
WELL, THAT PART, I THINK WHAT, WHAT, UM, BOARD MEMBER GO BACK TO SAYING IS ONCE WE'RE WORKING WITH A POTENTIAL CLIENT AND A NONDISCLOSURE, AND I DON'T PUT IN YOUR WORDS, AT WHAT POINT DOES COUNCIL GET INVOLVED OR DO THEY NOT GET INVOLVED? UH, BECAUSE OF CONFIDENTIALITY.
UH, AND SO WE'LL NEED TO CLARIFY.
WE, WE, I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE MAY START IT AND HAVE SOMETHING REALLY GREAT GOING ON AND IT MIGHT NOT WORK, YOU KNOW? CAUSE I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE TIMETABLES, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I WILL DISCUSS WITH JIM AND THEN, UH, WE WILL, UH, DISCUSS WITH COUNSEL AND I'LL GET UP WITH YOU ALL.
UM, WHEN AND HOW, BUT IT WILL BE REAL.
I WOULD FRAME RICK'S QUESTION.
WELL, NOT QUESTION, BUT JUST TO GIVE THE CONCERN THAT YOU'RE RAISING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
IF, IF WE ARE ALL BOUND BY A NON-DISCLOSURE, WHO'S THE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO'S, WHO'S MAKING AN INQUIRY OR WE'RE WORKING ON A PROPOSAL FOR THEM, WHERE, WHERE DOES THE LINE CROSS TO COUNCIL? THEY'RE NOT PART OF THAT NON-DISCLOSURE THEN RIGHT.
WHAT IT WOULD BE IS EACH INDIVIDUAL WHO SIGNS A NON-DISCLOSURE AND THIS BODY HAS AGREED THAT YOU WILL NOT SHARE WITH ANYONE ELSE.
AND THE DEVELOPER EXPECTATION IS NO ONE ELSE WILL KNOW ABOUT IT.
WELL, TINA AND MYSELF, THE APPROPRIATE ATTORNEY OR FINANCE DIRECTOR, BUT THAT CONFIDENTIALITY BINDS US.
ONCE YOU ERODE THAT, BUT THIS GROUP, YOU CAN KILL A PROJECT.
SO I FOUND, WE'LL HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S UNDER, UH, POWERS DUTIES, LIMITATIONS ON AUTHORITY.
AND THERE'S GIGANTIC PARAGRAPH NUMBER TWO, IS THAT NUMBER WHAT'S THE ROOM 10.
AND IS THAT THE SAME ONE YOU HAD ISSUES WITH THAT LONG? YEAH.
SO LIKE THE BOTTOM HALF OF IT, THIS IS KIND OF WHOA.
YOU KNOW? UM, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST, THE NOTE I HAD NEXT TO IT IS POLITICS NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH, YOU KNOW, PROCESS QUESTION, MARK.
JUST, I, I JUST THINK WE ALL SHOULD UNDERSTAND HOW WE FIT IN TO THE TOWN'S VISION.
WE NEED CLARIFICATION THAT THERE'S THAT ONE SENTENCE, SECOND SENTENCE, OR ALMOST LAST SENTENCE.
IT ALSO SAYS A TOWN COUNCIL PRIOR TO FRONT ROW EDA ENTERING INTO ANY AGREEMENT AND A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT UNDER ENDING WOULD BE THAT OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR SIMILAR TYPE OF AGREEMENT ARRANGEMENT.
WHETHER THE THIRD PARTY TOWN COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE A POOL AND PRIOR, AND SO LET'S GET THAT CLARIFIED.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, TINA, COULD WE REFER TO, UM, THE I INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND REVENUE BOND ACT CODE OF VIRGINIA IN 1950, CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT ATTACHED TO THIS AND EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO LOOK FOR IT.
I WANT, AND THE SAME THING DOWN AT THE BAR DOWN IN, UM, WHERE IT SAYS SET FORTH IN THIS CHAPTER, THE ED, THE TOWN, RIGHT? THE TOWN CODE, RIGHT.
UH, ANYWAY, NUMBER FOUR IN THE SAME SECTION REFERS TO PARTICULARLY 16 DASH SIX, KNOW THE C A AND B THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE BYLAWS WOULD JUST BE EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.
SO MIND IF WE PUT JOE, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND I'M SURE YOU'RE YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T, UH, YOU DIDN'T GET TO SEE THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION OF MAYBE WHAT WARREN
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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS DOING OR HAS DONE.I THINK THEIR MODEL HAS CHANGED.
SO PROBABLY THE BYLAWS HAD CHANGED.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS WE TOOK THESE BYLAWS FROM WARD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WERE CRAFTED TO MEET OUR NEEDS, THE QUESTION, UH, AND CLARIFY A PIE IF I'M NOT STATING IT RIGHT WHEN WARREN COUNTY OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, IF THEY HAVE A PROSPECT AND THEY SIGNED UP AND HONEST DISCLOSURE PRIOR TO THEM SIGNED IT WELL, WHEN THEY GET READY TO SIGN A NONDISCLOSURE PRIOR TO THAT, DOES THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, ARE THEY AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IN YOUR BYLAWS THAT SAYS ANY AGREEMENT AND THEN THE SEC THAT'S.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS ONCE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY SIGNS A NON-DISCLOSURE OR ANY CLOSED SESSION, CONFIDENTIALITY, WHAT INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH YOUR BOARD? SO THE PERSON ONE IS PRIOR TO A NON-DISCLOSURE, DOES THE BOARD AUTHORIZE IT? SECOND QUESTION IS IF NOT IN A CLOSED SESSION, AT WHAT POINT DO YOU ALL SHARE WITH THE BOARD? I WILL SAY I WAS JUST NOT FOOD WITH THEIR BYLAWS TO EVERY LINE IN THERE AS OF YET.
UM, AND HE THINKS THEY ARE KIND OF A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM MY DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT FROM WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THE BOARD DOESN'T, THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT I KNOW OBVIOUSLY WITH STAFF CHANGES AND LEADERSHIP CHANGES, THEY'VE HAD TO BEEN ACTING, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OVER THERE WITHOUT A PERMANENT POSITION WHO DID A LOT OF THAT NEGOTIATING.
SO THEIR BOARDS HAVE BEEN KIND OF JEFF BROWN.
AND THEN ALSO OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATOR WAS ALSO ON THAT BOARD AT ONE TIME, SOON AS THE VA'S MAYBE TRANSFERRED, BUT HE SIGNED WHEN HE WAS STILL ON THE BOARD THERE.
SO I CAN GET YOU A CLARIFICATION, UM, ON HOW THEY HANDLE THAT AND GET THAT OVER TO YOU GUYS WHEN THEY DO IT.
THAT'D BE HELPFUL JUST TO SEE HOW THEIR PRACTICES, UH, BUT THE BEST THAT YOU CAN SHARE RIGHT NOW, THE EDA HAS NOT WENT INTO A NON-DISCLOSURE, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON BOARD.
NO, WITHOUT THE BOARD, NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, THEN PART OF ANYTHING AT THAT, AT THIS POINT WITH NON ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THAT CLARIFY.
SO WHAT THAT TELLS ME AS OF NOW, RICK, WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE A MOTION UNTIL WE CLARIFY IT, WHICH Y'ALLS SHE ALWAYS BYLAWS.
SO THE FISCAL YEAR WE'RE JULY ONE TO JUNE 30.
SO DO OUR TERMS SYNCOPE WITH THAT.
TINA, QUESTION ON HOW WE DO MAYBE A MUSIC QUESTION.
I WOULD, I CAN ONLY ASSUME IT.
I THINK IT'S BASICALLY ON THE ANNIVERSARY DATE.
DOESN'T IT? ARE YOU READING THIS? LIKE THEIR TERMS? OH, THEIR TERMS. OH, IT'S IT'S, IT'S NOT IT'S BASED ON, UM, ANNIVERSARY, DECEMBER APPOINTED.
SO EVERY DECEMBER WILL BE YOUR ANNIVERSARY DATE.
I WAS THINKING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MONEY.
WELL, A COUPLE OF YOU WILL BE COMING UP IN DECEMBER.
UM, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU TO SEE IF YOU STILL WANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
HOW ARE YOU BEING AROUND OCTOBER? SO I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU FOR THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE YEAR TERM.
CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION IS AT WHAT POINT DOES THE TOWN COUNCIL NEED TO KNOW WHAT CLIENTS WE MIGHT BE BRINGING IN TO START TO TRY TO SELL LAND OR, OR RIGHT.
I MEAN, WE CAN CARRY THIS BALL, I'LL GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY BRING THE TYPE OF BUSINESS WE WANT, BUT AT WHAT POINT, THE TOWN COUNCIL, HOW TO SAY LIKE, HEY, NOW WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE.
SO GO AHEAD AND DROP IT WELL FOR NOW.
UH, AND I'M SURE WARREN COUNTY IS IN THE SAME SITUATION, JUST BECAUSE OF JUST THE FORTUNATE THING THAT HAPPENED.
UM, AND WITH THE EDA, WE WILL HAVE TO FIND THAT OUT.
THAT'S NOT SO MUCH A LEGAL QUESTION AS A COORDINATION COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE IF WE GO DOWN THIS PATH AND WE'RE WORKING ON A SIX MONTHS DEAL, CAUSE SOME OF THESE TAKEN AWHILE, UH, AND WE'RE WORKING ON HOW WE WANT TO STRUCTURE OUR UTILITY RATES.
AND THEN FOR NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOLLARS.
AND SO WE'D HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL
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TO SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO FUND WHATEVER OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE.I WOULD HATE TO GO DOWN THIS PATH.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THROUGH A NON-DISCLOSURE ACT AND FIND OUT THAT COUNCIL OR, OR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS COME ON BOARD AND THEY, OR MAY NOT BE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
AND THEN DEVELOPERS THROUGH ALL THIS, DO ALL THIS DUE DILIGENCE BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND IT'S DEAD IN THE WATER.
BUT I THINK MOST DEVELOPERS KNOW THERE'S NOT ANYTHING GUARANTEED WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, I DO THINK FOR ANY DEVELOPER, THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO SOMEWHAT UNCOMFORT LEVEL, UH, ARE WE SERIOUS ABOUT IT? SO I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT ANSWER TO, I THINK, UM, YES, I'LL COMMUNICATE.
WE ALSO IDENTIFY A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR HERE REAL SOON.
CAUSE SOME DISCUSSIONS NOT NECESSARILY THIS PER SE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE A CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL AND YOUR RE YOUR CHAIR, UH, OR VICE CHAIR, OR HE COULD DESIGNATE ANYONE ELSE TO ATTEND, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WOULD REPRESENT THE GROUP AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF YOU PROBABLY COULD BE PART OF THAT CLOSED SESSION, BUT IN GENERAL, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME IN YOUR SCHEDULE, WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS, WHICH WOULD CARRY THAT WATER.
AND I'M HOPING WE, IT SOUNDS LIKE AS SOON AS YOU ALL CAN APPOINT A CHAIRMAN OR VICE CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SOME CLOSED SESSIONS DISCUSSION.
HERE'S A SIMPLE ONE PAGE NUMBERS ARE INTERRUPTED.
I THINK NOW IT MAKES THE DOCUMENT APPEAR TO BE MISSING A PAGE.
THE ACCURATE FIVE THERE'S NO SIX.
ARE THERE THE FIRST PAGE THAT THE ARTICLES ARE THERE? YEAH.
AND SO ARTICLE SIX, NUMBER FOUR.
SO THAT COULDN'T BE REGULAR MEETINGS MEETINGS IN 30, CORRECT.
I'LL WAIT TILL IT GETS CORRECTED RIGHT HERE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ON ARTICLES SIX.
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE A FAX MACHINE? SO WE CONSIDERED THAT WAY.
I HAVE THE DATE FOR THIS DOCUMENT.
YES, I CAN SEND IT, BUT IT'S GONNA COME THROUGH YOUR EMAIL.
WE DON'T HAVE A FAX MACHINE ANYMORE.
WELL, FOR THE SAKE OF IT, I SOMETIMES I LIKE TO, JUST TO GET WHAT THE TRUTH WAS.
DO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THERE? WAS IT ARTICLE SIX? UM, NUMBER FOUR, IF WE CAN JUST SAY NOTICE SHOULD BE BY EMAIL OR WRITTEN OUT.
NOW WE HAVE A TYPEWRITER TO, IF Y'ALL WANT US TO TYPE IT, BRING THAT UP.
THEY'LL REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS IN THE FUTURE AND THEY'LL CREDIT.
BESIDES WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY.
I THINK THE BYLAWS ARE JUST HANDLING ME PERSONALLY.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COVID THROUGH THIS.
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HAVE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL, UH, ONE OR TWO, I THINK MORE THAN TWO CALL AND JOIN MEETING OUT.AM I CORRECT ON THAT, TINA? SO YOU CAN HAVE TWO OF YOUR MEMBERS TO DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL, GET CLARIFICATION, AND THEN, THEN WE CHANGE WHAT WE NEED AND THEY GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEYS TO REVIEW MY PRACTICES.
PLUS WE PUT WHAT WE THINK WE NEED AND THEN HAVE THE ATTORNEYS, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY COULD GO BACK BEFORE YOU DID INCREMENT CHARGES BY ATTORNEYS.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE DOING THE MOA FOR BOTH THE TOURISM AND BUILDING CODE STATION WHERE THEY DID, THEY LOOK AT IT AND THEN FINALIZE IT AND THEN WE'D BRING IT BACK.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY THERE TO CLARIFY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS, UH, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
NOW WE CAN ALWAYS INFER MY PREFERENCES.
WE GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING HERE SOON, BECAUSE ARE YOU OPPOSED TO A NOMINATION? NO, NO.
I JUST, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION TOO, THAT I FORGOT.
IS IT, IS IT ANNUAL? THEY APPOINTED A CHAIRMAN OR IS IT HEARD THE DURATION THERE? I'M NOT SURE THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS THE ANNUAL ELECTIONS.
ARE YOU LIKE, USUALLY WE MAKE UP OUR POINT, WHETHER IT BE JANUARY ONE, FEBRUARY, YOU SHOULD HAVE A TIMEFRAME YOUR DECEMBER.
SO IT WOULD BE IF WE CAN GET, CHOOSE THE CHAIR, IT'S ARTICLE FOUR, THE BOARD OF TRACTORS ROYAL MAY ELECT ITS MEMBERSHIP CHAIRMAN, THE VICE CHAIRMAN, DOESN'T SAY THE TERMINAL OFFICE SHALL BE TO WHICH THEY ARE ELECTED.
SO THIS IS BASED ON JULY, JULY TO JUNE 30TH.
CALENDAR YEAR, BECAUSE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A GERMAN, IT EXPIRES PRIOR TO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TERM.
THAT'S THE ATTEMPT THAT 10 IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU'RE POINTING NOW I FORGOT WHO HAS A ONE-YEAR TERM.
YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU WERE CHAIRMAN THE EXPIRED.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO WITH THAT QUESTION EARLIER.
CAUSE IT WAS LIKE, SO I WAS THINKING MAYBE WHOEVER HAS A ONE-YEAR TERM, THEY ACTUALLY ENDED UP BECAUSE OF HOW WE STARTED WITH A, YOU KNOW, 18 MONTHS TIME.
AND THEY'RE THEY'RE BUSINESS ORDER OR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS PLACES.
WHEN'S THAT DONE? THIS PRESLEY.
IS THIS THE BUSINESS OF ORDER WHERE THEY IDENTIFY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WHAT DOES THAT DONE JANUARY? SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS APPOINT OR HAVE YOU ALL VOTE? YEAH.
THIS COULD EASILY SAY THE TERMS OF OFFICE OR THE OFFICERS SHALL BE JANUARY ONE.
IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? YES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU ALSO IDENTIFY, HOW DO YOU WANT TO BE? AND THAT MEANS PHONE HAS TO BE, AND I THINK YOU CAN DO IT ON JANUARY 1ST.
JUST YOU DO IT ON THE FIRST OR DO THEY HAVE TO DO IT ON DECEMBER? WELL, IT WOULD BE IN A REGULAR MEETING AND HERE'S MEETING FOLLOWING THE FIRST.
IT WOULD BE DURING THE REGULAR MEETING.
IT'D BE YOUR THIRD, THURSDAY IN JANUARY.
THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH OR SO.
TIE THAT TO THE BYLAWS FOR CLARIFICATION.
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HERE? THAT'S ALL WE WERE DOING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.HE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DEFER THAT FOR AWHILE.
DOING ANYTHING FURTHER DOWN, FURTHER CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TODAY.
I THOUGHT WE WERE, IT WAS INTERESTING.
AND WALTER IN THERE ON THE TABLE, THERE'S ONE NOMINATION.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN GO THROUGH THERE.
SO NOMINATION IS FOR CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN, RICK OUT THERE, MY, IN THE HAT FOR CHAIRMAN.
SO YOUR SECOND AND THIRD BRIANNA NOMINATIONS FOR JEREMY.
SO WE NEED A MOTION TO MOVE RICK AS CHAIRMAN.
I, YOU MOVED IT AND I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
CAN I MAKE A QUICK POINT? ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER MOTION, FIRST DISCUSSION NEXT, RIGHT.
I OPENED THE FLOOR UP TO, DOES ANYONE HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? YES.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AND THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR? I WOULD BE HONORED TO BE YOUR CHAIRMAN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
YES, YES OR NO, BUT RICK IS AS CHAIRMAN.
BUT ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? NOMINATE DAVID.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE TOO.
I NEED A MOTION TO, UM, MOVE THAT MARK.
ANYBODY WANNA MOVE? I'M NOT AGAINST ANY DISCUSSION ON MARK AS VICE CHAIR.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BEING VICE CHAIR? YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO, I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH EXPERIENCE MAYBE WITH SOME OF THE, THE TOWN, THE ACTIVITIES, THE PLAYERS, BUT YEAH.
I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN KIND OF, UH, ORGANIZING GROUPS, ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.
I MEAN THAT STUFF I'VE DONE A LOT.
ISAAC RUSHING, MARK, AS VICE-CHAIR SAYS, DAVID KIDNEYS, RICHARD NEAR THAT MARK TYPES ACT.
FIRST THING WE GOT DONE THE QUICK, THE NEXT MEETING, TENTATIVELY THE VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP.
UM, WE'LL BE, UH, GIVING THEM THEIR PRESENTATION AGAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THEIR SERVICE.
LAST TIME WE HAD THEM PROVIDE YOU A PRESENTATION ON YOU KNOW, WHO, WHAT FREEDOM ONE-ON-ONE I GUESS.
UM, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO FORWARD YOU.
YOU'D MEAN, UM, THERE IS A CONFERENCE ON THE 23RD,
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24TH.I THINK I SHARED YOU IF ONE OF YOU WANT TO 10, EVEN IF YOU DRIVE DOWN TO RICHMOND AND COME BACK OR IF YOU WANT TO STAY THE NIGHT, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, BECAUSE THURSDAY, FRIDAY.
BUT IF YOU GO DOWN WEDNESDAY NIGHT, YOU'LL BE THERE THURSDAY, THE NEXT WEEK OF MARCH.
SO YOUR THURSDAY, FRIDAY GOING TO BE 24, 25, 24, 25.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THE INVITATION IS A GREAT ONE AND I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYONE WHO COULD AFFORD THE TIME AWAY ALREADY BE AWARE I'LL BE COUGHING IN MYRTLE BEACH.
HER COACHING WAS SO LAST MINUTE, BUT IT'S GREAT.
UM, I ACTUALLY JUST REGISTERED MYSELF WHEN I GO DOWN THERE.
I JUST, BECAUSE THERE HAD AN INTRODUCTION FOR FOUR MEMBERS AND THEN THERE IS A WORK SESSION ON AUTHORITIES AND I CAN REMEMBER, SO JOE, ARE YOU GOING? I'M ACTUALLY OUT OF TOWN THAT WEEK TOO.
SO IT WAS JUST, THAT JUST CAME UP.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN IF I COULD GET THE INFO.
I'LL TAKE THE INFO AND SEE HOW, SEE HOW IT WORKS.
I'LL FORWARD IT TO JUST LET US KNOW, REGISTER YOU UP.
UH, AND WHEN DO YOU LOOK AT IT? IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE NIGHT BEFORE OR DROP UP OR STAY, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'LL MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.
THIS BOARD GETS WITH ANY SORT OF THING.
LIKE THAT IS GOOD FOR THE TOWN, OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, AND ALSO I'M GOING TO TRY TO SEE IF, UH, SINCE THE TOWNS OF MEMBERSHIP, I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULDN'T, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU ALL, I MEAN, HAVE THEM PUT YOU ON THEIR DISTRIBUTION LIST, BUT IT WOULD BE YOUR FRONT ROYAL ACCOUNT.
SO THAT WAY YOU SEE STUFF, THAT'S YOUR INTEREST OF DOING FOLLOW MEANS? NO, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE SOME TRAINING.
UM, SOUNDS ALL MY SON'S NOT, BUT UH, DEFINITELY.
OPEN DISCUSSION, JOEY, WHEN'S YOUR NEXT MEETING? OUR NEXT MEETING IS NEXT FRIDAY.
I'LL BE BACK FOR THAT AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
SO I HAD A FEW MEETINGS, BUT YEAH.
THEY MIGHT BE AT EIGHT OR NINE.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL TIME AT EIGHT.
UM, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE THE AGENDA POSTED, I'LL SEND IT, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF YOU SEND IT TO TINA? SHE IS THE, YEAH, WE CAN SEND IT TO BOTH OF YOU.
SO, SO YOU BOTH HAVE IT, BUT WE CAN SEND IT TO BOTH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND.
I ASKED FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THE CHAIRMAN COULD MAKE A MOTION, NOT THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR THE MOTION.
I THINK EVERYBODY WAS IN AGREEMENT YESTERDAY.
SO ONE OF THOSE THAT WE DO LIKE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT KIND OF STUFF, OR IS THAT JUST ONE? I THINK WE'LL HAVE BETTER.
YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST LIKE COUNCIL DROP, YOU KNOW, EMAIL TO ME.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO ADD TO THE LIST, DID YOU GUYS SEE THE WAYFINDING SIGNS AS YOU LEFT? THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU GUYS WERE ASKING ME WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
LIKE FIRST I ASKED WHAT THEY WERE.