Jan 24, 2022 Town Council

COUNCILMAN LOYD, COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN, COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS HERE.

COUNCILWOMAN THOMPSON HERE.

UP APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF DECEMBER 13TH, 2021.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE WORK SESSION AND REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF DECEMBER 13TH, 2021 AS PRESENTED.

SURE.

I HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? VICE MAYOR.

THAT'S WOMAN THOMPSON.

ADDITIONS AND DELICIOUS DELETIONS OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA.

UP NEXT

[5. ADDITION/DELETION OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA]

DO WE HAVE ANY, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT.

WE ADD ITEM NUMBER 12, A CLOSED MEETING.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? HAVE ROLLING VICE MAYOR COCKREL YES.

TOWNSMAN LLOYD COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

I BELIEVE THAT FAILS.

AM I CORRECT? IT FAILS? YES.

NEXT RECOGNITIONS WARS AND REPORTS.

UH,

[6. RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/REPORTS]

FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A SOLID WASTE EMPLOYEES.

UM, I LIKE TO READ WHAT THE, UH, LETTER HERE STATES AND I'LL READ OFF EACH NAME.

UM, IT SAYS THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, YOUR HARD WORK TO CLEAN UP.

THE REFUSE AT KENDRICK APARTMENTS MADE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF TOWN EMPLOYEES GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE FRONT ROLL A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE ON BEHALF OF THE GRATEFUL TOWN WE ARE.

WE WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR DEEP GRATITUDE FOR THE DEDICATED WORK THAT YOU DO DAY AFTER DAY AND ASSIGNED BY MYSELF AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE JAMES SWINDELL.

ERIC JURGENSON, JAMES WALKER, GEORGE GUERRERO, PAUL BREED, DANE CRAIG, IF YOU ALL WOULD COME ON UP HEY, MAYOR CAN Y'ALL CAN Y'ALL LINE UP AND TAKE A PICTURE SO WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR TOWN WEBSITE.

SORRY.

I WANT IT TO YOU, BUT I NEED YOU TO COME HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH YOU ALWAYS EARN THE OUT OR RUNNING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU LOOKING OUT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND

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THESE KIDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS, NONE OF THIS PROBABLY HAPPENS.

LET'S DO A LITTLE SCARY.

I'M TRYING TO THROW ME DOWN, TELLING ME TO BRING MY GUNS LOADED.

DAVID, DO YOU MIND IF I SAY A FEW WORDS, UH, AT FIRST PERSONALLY, ON BEHALF OF, UH, UH, OF STAFF AS WELL, UM, OUR FOLKS WHO PICK UP A TRASH EVERY DAY, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE JOBS WHERE IS PROBABLY WHERE WE GET MOST OF THE CALLS.

IF THE WORK IS NOT DONE AND IT'S, IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR STAFFING LEVEL AND WHAT THEY DO, UM, WE, WE GET VERY, WE VERY RARELY DO WE GET CALLS AND EVEN IT JUST, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TYPE OF WEATHER EVENT THEY'RE OUT THERE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT, UM, NOT ONLY DOES MYSELF AS THE TOWN MANAGER AND COUNCIL AND ALSO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ALL STAFF, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

WELL, GREAT RETIREMENT START WITH A GOOD SPEECH, RIGHT? I AIN'T GOT ONE, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK Y'ALL.

WE HAVE ONE MORE.

SO WE HAVE THIS GENTLEMEN, MR. DAVID JENKINS, THAT'S BEEN WITH THE TOWN FOR 30 YEARS.

IT'S GOING TO BE RETIRING HERE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

AND, UH, HE'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE NICEST GUYS YOU EVER WANT TO MEET AND HE'D DO ANYTHING IN THE WORLD HE CAN FOR YOU.

AND, UM, WHAT I'M MISSING.

I KNOW I WILL.

UM, SO LET ME JUST GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF DAVID'S HISTORY HERE.

HE, UH, STARTED JANUARY THE 27TH AS ELECTRIC.

NOW JANUARY 27TH, 1992 AS ELECTRIC LINE TECHNICIAN, THEN 2008 ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN, 2012, ASSISTANT OPERATIONS MANAGER, 2013 OPERATIONS MANAGER, 2016, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ENERGY SERVICES, AND THEN A 2017 DIRECTOR OF ENERGY SERVICES.

SO WE HAVE THIS PLAQUE HERE AND NOT LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ IT.

THIS IS PRESENTED TO DAVID W. JENKINS IN RECOGNITION OF 30 YEARS OF LOYALTY, HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WELL-DESERVED RETIREMENT WITH SINCERE GRATITUDE FROM FELLOW EMPLOYEES, TELL MANAGER, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL, JANUARY THE 27TH, 1992 TO FEBRUARY THE FIRST 2022.

YOUR LOYALTY AND FRIENDSHIP WILL BE LONG REMEMBERED.

WE WISH YOU THE VERY BEST IN RETIREMENT.

I WELCOME UPDATED.

VERY GOOD.

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I MEAN, THIS IS 30 YEARS.

IT'S JUST FLOATING BY, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF REMINISCE ON ALL THIS.

YOU THINK IT'S REALLY A EASY DECISION, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GET THAT 20 YEARS AND YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, THIS IS DOABLE.

THEN YOU GET TO 25 AND YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THEN WHEN IT GETS HERE AND YOU WORK AND FOR GOOD PEOPLE LIKE Y'ALL AND STEVEN, AND YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, THIS IS THIS GREAT.

I GREAT KNOW IF I WANT TO GO OR NOT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN I COME TO WORK FOR THE TOWN, OF COURSE I WAS THE YOUNG GUYS, YOU KNOW, 23 AND 53 NOW.

AND ANYHOW, IT WAS A BUNCH OF OLDER GENTLEMEN THAT WORKED THERE.

BUT MAN, WHEN I GOT THERE, THEY'RE LIKE, MAN, YOU NEED TO INVEST IN THIS.

YOU NEED TO INVEST IN THAT.

YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS.

I'M LIKE, MAN, I GOT TO FEED A FAMILY.

I WON'T HAVE NO MONEY LEFT AND ALL THIS STUFF, BUT I TOOK SOME OF THEIR ADVICE AND IT WORKED OUT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK Y'ALL TOWN HAS A LOT OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE EMPLOYED HERE OVER THE YEARS AND GOOD, HARD WORKING STAFF AND WITH Y'ALL MAKING GOOD DECISIONS FOR THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD.

HOPE YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

UP NEXT, WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 1 75 PERTAINING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND THAT WAS A GOOD SPEECH DAVID.

[7. A. Ordinance Amendment to Chapter 175 Pertaining to Short Term Rentals – Lauren Kopishke]

I HEAR A MOTION.

I'M SORRY.

TINA, COULD YOU READ THE, UH, SUMMARY? I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING DAILY.

WE USUALLY READ IT.

THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

THAT'S AN AIRBNB AND THERE'S DEFINITELY NOT A LANDLINE THERE.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP BY THE WAY WE WANT TO READ, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND READ PLEASE? TOWN COUNCIL MET IN NUMEROUS WORK SESSIONS IN 2021 AND ONE LIAISON COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE CORPORATE TOWN LIMITS OF FRONT ROYAL AT THEIR OCTOBER 12TH, 2021 WORK SESSION COUNCIL RECOMMENDED MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN CODE BY REFERRING THEM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AT THEIR NOVEMBER 22ND MEETING COUNCIL APPROVED, REFERRING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF SHORT-TERM TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN CODE PLANNING COMMISSION, HOW THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2021, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED STAFF TO MAKE ADDITIONAL REVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE AND BRING IT BACK TO THEIR JANUARY 19TH MEETING AND UPDATE AT THE JANUARY 19TH REGULAR MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO TABLE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE UNTIL FEBRUARY THE COMMISSION WISHES TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE AND SCHEDULED A WORK SESSION FOR FEBRUARY 2ND, STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PROPOSED SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES ARE RELATED TO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS USE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

STAFF ADVISED THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE PURPOSE OF REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND PERMITTING THE USE IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS IS TO ALLOW FOR A CASE-BY-CASE DETERMINATION OF APPROPRIATENESS.

SO MAYOR, UM, UH, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.

UH, SHOULD THERE BE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? AND THEN AT THAT TIME COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION, I LIKE TO ADD ONE SMALL EDIT TO THAT.

WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION OVER IT BEFORE, AND I HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, THERE WAS AN A LINE ITEM IN THERE ABOUT HAVING A LAND ALIGN AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY NECESSARY.

THEY MADE IT.

UM, SO IF THAT COULD BE REMOVED, IF YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S A TREE HOUSE,

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SO I SUCK AT THAT AND IT WAS JUST A SUBSTANTIAL COST TO MAINTAIN A LANDLINE.

AND IT'S KIND OF ARCHAIC IN THIS AGE AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT I MADE THAT NIGHT, THAT I QUESTIONED ABOUT A LANDLINE.

UM, SO I WOULD SUPPORT REMOVING THAT IF EVERYBODY ELSE WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR LAUREN LAUREN.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED BETWEEN WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS.

NOW IT SAYS PROVIDE DETAILS FOR SPECIAL AMENITIES IF AVAILABLE WAS THAT CHANGED? BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THE ORIGINAL ONE, I THINK IT SAID LANDLINE DETAILS.

IT WAS SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT WAS THAT MODIFIED BETWEEN WHICH LINE ARE YOU ON? UM, IT'S ON THE, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.

WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO WIFI FILM, ET CETERA, IT NOW SAYS PROVIDE DETAILS FOR SPECIAL AMENITIES IF AVAILABLE.

SO I READ THAT TO MEAN THAT WE, BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS IN THE SESSION THAT HAD BEEN MODIFIED BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL HAD TALKED ABOUT, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

WE NEED A MOTION.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO POSTPONE IT, POSTPONE ACTION.

CONTINUE THE PUBLIC AREAS TO HAVE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE THAT.

WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, SECOND.

HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR.

AND THAT'S THAT? WE'LL BE, UM, TINA, I DON'T KNOW IF WE MAY WANT TO DO IT, BUT THAT WILL BE FOR THE FEBRUARY 28TH.

REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING.

SO THAT MEANS THAT IF ANY CITIZENS HAVE COMMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT FROM NOW UNTIL THEN THEY COULD SHARE THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING ON FEBRUARY 2ND AS A WORK SESSION.

SO THAT ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A, UM, A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.

GOTCHA.

[8. PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS]

UP NEXT WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? YES, WE HAVE THREE.

FIRST ONE IS GEORGE KLEIN JR.

IS THERE A COST FOR THAT? IS THERE AN HOURLY RATE, AN HOURLY FEE AND WHO WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND THE WEBSITE? IT ALSO SAYS PLAN REVIEW WILL BE DONE BY THE HOUR FOR ALL US BUILDERS.

UM, JUST MALARIA BY NO THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ON, UM, YOU'RE SPEAKING AND AT THE END OF THREE MINUTES, UH, MIKE WILL BE SHUT OFF NOW.

LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ANYWAY TOWARDS YOU, GEORGE.

I STILL TRY TO KEEP IT GETTING TO MR. MAYOR TOWN, COUNCIL AND STAFF.

UM, I COME TO HERE TONIGHT ON THE BEHALF OF THE WARREN COUNTY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

UM, AND JUST LET ME SAY THAT WE REALLY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE SOONER, BUT WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THE NEW INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO GO THIS WAY.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE MEMBERS HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS OF OUR ORGANIZATION, UH, ABOUT THIS NEW BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST OF QUESTIONS.

WE KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER AND WE DON'T EXPECT THAT, BUT WE THOUGHT WE COULD GIVE YOU THE QUESTIONS YOU COULD THINK ABOUT THEM AND THEN POSSIBLY COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS OR SOMETHING.

AND MAYBE WE COULD, UH, WE COULD GO OVER THE PROCESS.

SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UM, I GUESS BECAUSE I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE BUILDER'S ASSOCIATION, I GET THEM ALL.

UM, MR. HICKS IS LISTED AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND WE KNOW IN ONE OF THE WORK SESSIONS, HE WAS DEEMED KNOWLEDGEABLE TO BE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.

UM, ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS WAS, ARE YOU CERTIFIED THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT.

THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS.

UM, SO THAT WAS ONE.

UM, WOULD YOU, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO ANSWER CODE QUESTIONS IF THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE THIRD-PARTY INSPECTOR AND THE PERMIT HOLDER? UH, AND IF, IF NOT, AND YOU REFER US TO THE THIRD PARTY COMPANY,

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THAT'S AN OPEN CHECKBOOK.

I'LL JUST FLAT OUT TELL YOU IT'S AN OPEN CHECKBOOK.

WE HAVE NO, THERE YOU'RE ALL IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE HAVE NO WAY TO BUDGET THAT NUMBER.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE.

UM, AND, AND OUR QUESTION IS, IS WHAT IS THE RATE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING BY THE HOUR? SECOND OF ALL, UM, ARE THEY GOING TO BE REVIEWING PLANS HERE IN TOWN? I DON'T EVEN, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE COMPANY IS THAT I'M AWARE OF.

UM, BUT IF IT'S OUT OF TOWN, HOW ARE WE GETTING THE PLANS TO THEM? OR WE SCAN IT A MAN AND SEND IT OVER.

DO WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR PLANS TO BE SCANNABLE? OR ARE THEY COMING TO, UH, IS THERE AN HOURLY FEE FOR THAT? HAVE YOU COME UP WITH ANY PROJECTED COSTS? WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE TO START.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S A BUDGET ITEM FOR US WHILE WE'RE ON A BUDGET RIGHT NOW, THERE IS, UH, IT ALSO STATES THAT YOU INSPECTIONS ARE DONE.

YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CONGENITAL.

WHAT IS THE RIGHT? IS, ARE, ARE THE, IS THE ENGINEERING FIRM, OUR ENGINEERS, OR BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THAT, RIGHT? AND IT COULD BE RATHER EXPENSIVE.

ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING IN TRAVEL TIME FROM WHERE THEY DID THE FIRST INSPECTION TO WHERE THEY'RE COMING TO? WHO THINKS THAT? AND THEN ON THE EMS, IT SAYS IT'S GOING TO BE REVIEWED AND INSPECTED BY THE CASE.

I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON IT, TRYING TO GET YOUR LICENSE AND EVERYTHING, BUT AGAIN, IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR THIS AS THE COUNTY ASKED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY? AND THEY TYPICALLY, BECAUSE THE COUNTIES CAN BE A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR HERE.

UM, THERE'S USUALLY ALWAYS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.

AND ONE REQUIREMENT THAT OUR ASSOCIATION HAS CAME UP WITH IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF THE VMS PLAN.

IS IT GOING TO BE A FULL BODY BECAUSE OF VIDEOS? THAT'S A GAME CHANGER.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT STARTING AT ABOUT $500.

THAT'S A REALLY BIG CLASS.

UM, LAST, LAST QUESTION.

UM, GRANDMA, THIS ONE JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT IS THERE AN APPEALS BOARD? DO WE HAVE IN THE FIELDS AND BECAUSE I CHAIR THE BOARD AND KILL YOUR BILLS MORE, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO SEND ME A BILL.

I WANT TO SAY THAT IN SECTION 1, 19 1 2, AND IT SAYS THERE'S FIVE.

IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE FILE NUMBERS AND THEY'LL NEED TO BE APPOINTED BY LOCALE.

IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF LOCALITY, THAT'S A CITY, TOWN OR COUNTY IN THE COMMONWEALTH, AND I CAN'T STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT TO BE SET UP RIGHT UP INTO THE STATE APPEALS FOR, FOR MEETINGS, THEY DON'T APPLY.

YOU CAN DO IT.

SO MY QUESTION IS, HAVE THEY BEEN APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL OR HAS MR. HICKSON? BECAUSE TO ME, UM, IN A NUTSHELL WHERE WE'RE STRUGGLING AT THIS POINT TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF THIS BLOCK, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR PLAN REVIEW, WE'RE PAYING FOR BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR A BUILDING OFFICIAL.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THESE SERVICES ON TOP OF, I MEAN, THE ADDITIONAL FOR THE TENANT, SAY THAT BASED OFF THE RESEARCH IDEA

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IN THE WORST YEAR OF THE COUNTY, ONLY 40% COVERED BY 40% OF THE BUDGET, A PERMANENT PIECE THAT THE CITIZEN SUBSIDIZE TO THE OTHER 60% IN THE AVERAGE YEAR, 60% WAS COVERED BY THE PERMIT.

40% OF THE CITIZENS.

THAT'S AN AVERAGE YEAR.

I THINK WE ONLY HAD ONE YEAR WHERE IT ACTUALLY BROKE, EVEN THAT IT COVERED.

I'M THINKING THAT WAS UNDER THREE, BUT I CAN'T PUT MY FINGER ON EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING TO THAT IS WE'RE ALL TAXPAYERS AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO PAY THESE TAXES AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE SERVICES OFFERED TO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE BENEFIT IS FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

AT THIS POINT, UM, IN CLOSING, UH, THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION MEETS THE FOURTH, WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

EVERYBODY IS INVITED SEVEN O'CLOCK.

WHY ARE YOU HERE? EVERYBODY'S WELCOME.

OUR ASSOCIATION HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DEPTH AND KNOWLEDGE AND COULD PROBABLY PRESENT SOME GREAT IDEAS OR SOME SUGGESTIONS.

AND WE'VE BEEN NEXT.

WE WEREN'T ASKED, UH, THE ASSOCIATION BELIEVE ME IS NOT AGAINST HAVING OUR OWN INSPECTIONS.

NOT AT ALL, PROVIDING MANY PAYING DOUBLE FEEDS, HOURLY FEEDS, ALL INSPECTIONS PLAN REVIEWS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO US.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN OTHER THINGS PUT IN MOTION BEFORE JUMPING INTO THIS BOX, BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU, YOUR SNUFF IS WORSE THAN AN ANGRY CONTRACT, BUT, UM, JUST, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE IN SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE TIMES AND AN ALREADY OVERINFLATED BUSINESS, WE'RE JUST ADDING COST.

AND I GOT ONE MORE THING AND IT'S A PERSONAL, UM, WHEN YOU'RE OUT DOING YOUR BUDGET, I WORKED FOR A MAN BACK IN THOSE SIX, BUILT THREE, $2.6 MILLION HOUSE FOR YOU TRAVELED ALL OVER THE WORLD AND DID CONFERENCES ON HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.

I GOT THE PLEASURE OF SITTING AND WATCHING THE VIDEOS OF THEIR SITES AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE 18 MONTHS OF BUILDING THIS HOUSE, BECAUSE HE ALWAYS TELLS ME TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE.

YOU WILL BE AMAZED OF WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR YOU.

SO JUST TAKE CARE.

THANK YOU, MR. KLEIN.

YOU SAID THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

WHAT TIME? THANK YOU.

YOU GOT GEORGE.

YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE, THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE OR OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? JEAN KELBY.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF AND MAYOR HOLLOWAY.

TODAY.

FORMER MAYOR GEORGIE BANKS WAS LAID TO REST.

IF THE VETERANS CEMETERY AND COLD PEPPER, VIRGINIA, I WAS HERE ALMOST A YEAR AGO, ASKING THE COUNCIL TO NAME A STREET AFTER GEORGE EUBANKS, THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAYOR, HE WAS THE PERSON WHO, WHO SUCCEEDED IN BRINGING THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER WHILE MAKING CONSIDERABLE IMPROVEMENTS.

MANY OF YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, MANY OF YOU MAY

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NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WITNESS HOW ACTIVE GEORGE WAS ON TOWN COUNCIL, HOW ALPHA HE WAS A MAJOR PLAYER.

GEORGE WAS A PIONEER OF GROWTH AND SERVICE.

HE WAS AN ICONIC FIGURE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HIS LEGACY MUST LIVE ON ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I EMPLOY YOU TO RENAME A MAJOR STREET AT THE GEORGIE BANKS.

OUR SUGGESTION TONIGHT IS TO RENAME THE FIRST PORTION OF EDGEMONT AVENUE, WHERE IT TURNS RIGHT AND RENAMED SCRANTON AVENUE MAKING ONE STRAIGHT GEORGIE BANKS, APP AVENUE, GOING PAST HIS PROPERTY ON 18TH STREET.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN'T RENAME A NUMBER OF STREET, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A VALID PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE SIGNATURES FOR, FOR ALMOST ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ON EDGEMONT AVENUE.

AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO GET THE SIGNATURES FOR THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT FACE SCRANTON AVENUE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I ASKED THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER NAMING THE STREET AT THE GEORGIE BANKS.

I HAVE A FOLDER WITH GEORGE'S FILE.

UM, IT'S NOT STAPLE, BUT IT WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GEORGE.

CHILDREN AND SPECIAL NEEDS CITIZENS AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER, I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW WHAT RESOURCES ARE THE TOWN'S DISPOSAL, BUT I ASSUME THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN THE AVERAGE STREET SIDE BUSINESS OR HOMEOWNER CAN MUSTER EVEN IN THE SCENARIO THAT EVERY BUSINESS AND HOMEOWNER DOES, THERE DOES ATTEMPT TO DO TO QUICKLY CLEAR SIDEWALKS AFTER WINTER SCENARIOS WITH ICIC, UH, SCENARIOS WHERE THIS ICE ACCUMULATION SUCH AS IT'S OFTEN THE CASE MAY BE POSSIBLE FOR A PRIVATE CITIZEN TO OVERCOME, WHICH MAY AGAIN, DIRECTLY IN DATE, WHICH AGAIN, DIRECTLY IN DANGEROUS, NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY'S MOST VULNERABLE, WHATEVER FOR OIL CAN DO BETTER.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

SHUT-IN I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

UM, UH, THIS MORNING, UM, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY IN A, IN A BUSINESS OWNER AS WELL.

UH, THIS MORNING, UH, I HAD JUST DROPPED OFF MY KIDS.

IT'S SKYLINE, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND WAS HEADING NORTH ON ROUTE THREE 40 AVENUE TO RUN AN ERRAND.

AS I APPROACHED THE INTERSECTION OF THREE 40 AND SOUTH STREET, I SAW A MIDDLE-AGED MALE CONFINED TO A WHEELCHAIR ON THE ROAD, NOT ON THE SIDEWALK SLOWLY ATTEMPTING TO WORK HIS WAY SOUTHBOUND ON ROUTE THREE 40.

FROM THAT SAME INTERSECTION, HE WAS HAVING CONSIDERABLE DIFF DIFFICULTY MOVING.

DESPITE WHAT APPEARED TO BE HIS BEST EFFORTS.

IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT HE WAS BEING FORCED INTO THE UNSAFE SITUATION DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE STILL COVERED WITH SNOW AND ICE.

FROM THE REMNANTS OF THE STORM.

WE HAD A FULL WEEK AGO.

I PULLED OVER AND I ACTUALLY HAD TO PARK IN A PRIVATE BUSINESSES PARKING LOT WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION NECESSARILY, UM, SO THAT I COULD QUICKLY OFFER TO HELP GET HIM TO HIS DESTINATION AND OUT OF THE BAD SITUATION THAT HE WAS FORCED INTO THE DANGEROUS SITUATION HE WAS FORCED INTO.

I ENDED UP PUSHING HIM ALL THE WAY TO ITS DESTINATION, TO THE BUILDING NEXT TO THE NORTH, TO THE NEXT TO THE NORTHWESTERN BUILDING AT THE SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL ENTRANCE ON KAISER ROAD DURING THE ENTIRE TREK, WE WERE FORCED TO STAY ON THE ROAD BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS AND SHOULDERS OR COVERED IN ICE ALL THE WAY TO HIS DESTINATION.

I ALSO NOTICED YOUNG KIDS, I WOULD HAVE GUESSED PROBABLY ABOUT 11 OR 12 YEARS OLD WITH BACKPACKS WALKING THEIR WAY, PRESUMABLY TO SKY SKYLINE, MIDDLE SCHOOL AGAIN IN THE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO TRAFFIC WAS IN BY PRETTY MUCH KIND OF RUSH HOUR BECAUSE IT WAS A TWO HOUR DELAY.

THIS TODAY, THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME I NOTICED CHILDREN WALKING IN THE ROAD ON THEIR WAY TO, OR FROM BOTH HIGHLAND SCHOOLS DUE TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE SIDEWALK AND THE SHOULDERS AFTERWARDS I CALLED THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING WITH WERE VERY HELPFUL.

A GENTLEMAN THAT I SPOKE WITH THERE WAS PATIENT WITH ME, CAUSE I WAS PRETTY HOT ABOUT THE SITUATION I HAD JUST LEFT A PATIENT AND HELPFUL.

UM, AND HE SAID, UH, I WAS CALLING TO FIND OUT WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING THE SIDEWALKS CLEAR.

AND IT'S NOW MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS, UM, THAT FRONT, THE SIDEWALK, IF A VIOLATION IS REPORTED, IF A VIOLATION IS REPORTED, THE TOWN MANAGER, THEN MAILS A LETTER OF WARNING TO THE PERSON OR BUSINESS RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEARING THE AREA.

THAT PROCESS TAKES A MINIMUM OF TWO DAYS JUST TO DELIVER THE WARNING CITATION, TO SAY THE LEAST THE BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS IS INEFFICIENT AND OBVIOUSLY DANGEROUS TO OUR COMMUNITIES,

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I REALIZE THIS ISN'T THE FIRST, THIS ISN'T THE KIND OF THING THAT SAT IN THE FRONT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS YOU'RE AROUND.

SO PERHAPS THE COUNCIL CAN TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO IMPLEMENT A BETTER SOLUTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THOMAS SAYRE, 8 35 SHENANDOAH SHORES ROAD, FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA.

I WAS WANTING TO SPEAK ABOUT, I'VE HEARD THAT YOU ALL HAD A CLOSED SESSION OR MAYBE AN OPEN SESSION, A WORK SESSION REGARDING ADVERTISING FOR A TOWN ATTORNEY.

AND, UH, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT I READ AND HEARD THAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING OF SPENDING $24,000 IS SOMETHING YOU ALL COULD DO IN HOUSE.

SAVE THAT MONEY.

AND, UH, WHEN, WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNTY BOARD, WE ADVERTISED AND HOUSE AND WE RECEIVED A GOOD NUMBER OF RESUMES AND QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.

IT WAS A GOOD NUMBER, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT IT WAS A LARGE NUMBER.

AND, UM, ALSO YOU GOT GEORGE SAUNA HERE.

WHO'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE THAT I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD GIVE HIM A HARD, GOOD LOOK.

UM, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING SOME LOCAL PERSONS DIP THEIR HANDS IN, EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, I THINK GEORGE MIGHT LIVE IN RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY OR USED TO.

AND, UH, SO, AND I DON'T THINK HE GETS AS INVOLVED IN LOCAL STUFF.

I THINK HE'D BE A GOOD CHOICE.

TO THE TOWN MANAGER, STEVEN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.

MOVING ON REPORT

[9. a. Report of Town Manager]

THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO, IS TO, UM, AGAIN, ELABORATE THAT BOTH, UH, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REMOVING, UH, SNOW AS WELL AS, UH, APPLYING ANY TYPE OF ABRASIVES AND STUFF, UM, FOLLOWING A STORM EVENT.

AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT AND WE ARE TAKING ACTIONS, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THOSE WHEN WE'RE NOTIFIED.

SO I WANT TO SHARE THAT.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE COMING, BUT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AS PART OF MY COMMENT PERIOD.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, I'M REQUESTING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HAVING A, A SPECIAL WORK SESSION ON FEBRUARY 1ST OR, UH, THE SECOND AT SIX 30, WE HAVE A SERIES OF, UM, BUDGET INFORMATION.

WE NEED TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED HERE QUICKLY.

WELL AS OUR WATER ATTACKS RATE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD SINCE, UM, THE PAST, UH, WORK SESSION WE HAD.

WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, AND I REALLY NEED TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED.

ALSO.

I WILL PROBABLY BE ALSO RE UH, REQUESTING A CLOSED SESSION DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.

UM, SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TRY TO DECIDE, UH, WEDNESDAY IS, IS OUR PREFERENCE FOR STAFF.

UH, AND, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

UM, WE CAN DISCUSS THIS, UH, WHEN IT GETS NOW OR, OR WHERE YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE.

ALSO.

I WANT TO, UM, UH, UH, MENTOR A GREAT PERSON, JASON I BUYER, HE WAS, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

HE'S BEEN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR YEARS.

UM, AND HE'S JUST ONE OF THOSE LEADERS THAT, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT JACK WELCH AND OTHER CEOS IN FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, HE'S ONE OF THOSE WHEN IT COMES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, HE PASSED AWAY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, AND I JUST WANT ON BEHALF OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, I LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY MENTORS AND OTHERS WHO'VE HELPED ME THROUGH MY CAREER.

THANK YOU, STEVEN.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

UM, THE CLOSE MEETING FOR THE FIRST IS THAT ITEM NUMBER 12, THAT WAS

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GOING TO BE FOR TONIGHT.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD CONTINUE THE ONES THAT, UM, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION ON, UM, AND AS WELL AS, UH, AS WELL AS OTHER BUDGET RELATED ITEMS. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UP NEXT REPORT OF COUNCIL.

[9. b. Report of Councilmembers]

YEP.

I'LL JUMP IN THERE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT BACK TO MR. KLEIN.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND ALL THE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU EMAIL THOSE TO TINA PRESLEY SO YOU CAN GET APPROPRIATE ANSWERS.

AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW WHEN THOSE MEETINGS TAKE PLACE.

THAT'S APPRECIATE IT.

UM, THE SECOND PERSON MR. KILBY, UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

UM, ABOUT GEORGE BANKS IS A STRAIGHT, I ALSO RECEIVED, WELL FIRST, UM, HIS FUNERAL WAS FRIDAY AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK THERE.

AND, UH, HE WAS BURIED TODAY AS MR. KELBY SAID, I ALSO RECEIVED A MESSAGE TODAY FROM A CHELSEA MORAN.

SHE'S A PHYSICAL THERAPIST AT WARREN REHABILITATION, AND SHE ASKED IF SHE COULD SEND A LIST OF NAMES OF THOSE WHO SUPPORT AND, UM, THEIR SENTIMENTS.

AND IF I WOULD READ THEM FOR HER, SHE WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING A SITTER FOR TONIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THAT QUICKLY BECAUSE IT PIGGYBACKS ON WHAT YOU SAID AS WELL.

IT SAYS, PLEASE ACCEPT THESE NAMES AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT COMMEMORATING THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF MR. GEORGE E. BANKS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY BY RENAMING A STREET IN FRONT ROYAL AFTER HIM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND CELEBRATING MAYOR BANKS AND ALL HE DID FOR OUR TOWN AND COMMUNITY, THE STAFF AND FAMILY OF WAR MEMORIAL, OUTPATIENT REHAB AND FITNESS.

CHELSEA MORAN, JONATHAN MORAN, MICHELLE DAVIES, SHERRY WILLIAMS, JOANIE JODY BARNETT, SIERRA CALVERT, TAYLOR WALTON, ABIGAIL GALLAGHER, JENNA PITT PITKIN, ANDREA BRUNCH.

OH, SORRY.

BUNCH.

STACY DEARING, SUSAN FOSTER, SARAH MORI, REBECCA GRAYSON, MARY MARY MEN, JERRY ANNA, DENNIS, BROOKE SIMPSON, CAITLIN PAINTER.

TAMRA HELPS IN MEGAN.

, I'M SORRY.

I'M BUTCHERING THESE NAMES.

JENNA HAS MEYER, UM, MARISSA HEIGHTENED BRECHT AND LACY NIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, THERE'S A THREE QUOTES ON THE BACK.

I'LL READ THOSE.

IT SAYS, I AM WRITING IN SUPPORT OF NAMING A STREET.

AFTER MR. GEORGE BANKS.

HE WAS A TWO-TIME MAYOR OF FRONT ROYAL, WHO SELFLESSLY SERVED HIS COMMUNITY.

HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAYOR, FRONT ROYAL, AND AS SUCH ADVANCED THE CAUSE OF EQUALITY IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

AND WHILE HIS PUBLIC SERVICE WAS A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.

THE MOST NOTABLE THING ABOUT MR. BANKS WAS HIS WARM, CARING, HEART AND FRIENDLY DEMEANOR.

HE NEVER MET A STRANGER AND DEMONSTRATED LOVE AND KINDNESS TO THOSE.

HE MET.

HE REPRESENTS THE BEST OF WHAT FRONT ROYAL HAS TO OFFER.

I CAN THINK OF NO BETTER PERSON TO HAVE A STREET NAMED FOR IN OUR TOWN.

SARAH MORI, GEORGE BANKS WAS A MAN WHO LIVED BY THE GOLDEN RULE.

HE TREATED ALL BEINGS AS HE WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED.

HE WAS A KIND AND JUST MAN WITH A SMILE THAT MADE ANYONE AND EVERYONE FEEL WELCOME.

HE UNDOUBTEDLY REPRESENTED THE BEST PARTS OF BEING PART OF A COMMUNITY AND BUILDING A COMMUNITY.

STACY DEERING.

THERE'S FOUR, SORRY, WORKING WITH MR. BANKS WAS TRULY A PLEASURE.

HIS POSITIVE ATTITUDE WAS CONTAGIOUS.

HE WAS A HARD WORKER AND READY TO FACE.

ANY OBSTACLE HAS KIND SMILE AND BIG HEART WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED BY THOSE WHO ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO MEET HIM.

AND I HOPE WE ARE ABLE TO COMMEMORATE THE LEGACY HE LEFT BEHIND IN THE TOWN.

HE LOVED CAITLIN PA PAINTER.

I ONLY KNEW MR. BANKS FOR A SHORT TIME, BUT I COULD TELL HE WAS SOMEONE WHO LOVED BRINGING JOY TO OTHERS.

HE ALWAYS HAD A SMILE ON HIS FACE AND GAVE 100% ALWAYS STRIVING TO DO A LITTLE MORE.

HE WILL BE GREATLY MISSED IN THIS COMMUNITY, TAMARA HILTON.

UM, I ALSO LIKED THAT, UM, MR. KILBY AND THEM WENT OUT AND GOT SIGNATURES FROM EVERYBODY ON EDGE MONTH.

THEY'RE ONLY MISSING THE FOUR SIGNATURES FROM THOSE ON SCREEN WHERE THE STREET TURNS OR WHATNOT.

UM, SO THAT WAS GOOD.

AND THEN MR. SUTTON IS THAT I SAY YOUR NAME RIGHT.

SHY AND OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CAN'T JUST CALL THESE BUSINESSES IF WE'RE ALERTED TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE TWO DAYS THE SNOW COULD VERY WELL MELT.

LIKE WHAT, WHY IS THE PROCESS TO SEND A WARNING LETTER INSTEAD OF A WARNING PHONE CALL? WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT.

I MEAN, WE WILL, WE'RE FALLING OUT, OH, THERE'S THIS PARTICULAR SNOW STORM EVENT.

THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND STAFF IS DOING THE BEST WE CAN, BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY, UM, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE US TO REVISIT THE PROCESS.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY, COUNCILMAN TOM, THAT'S PERFECT.

AND THAT'S FINE BY ME.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH MAKING THE PROCESS A BIT SMOOTHER AND EASIER TO REPORT AND TO, UM, CONTACT THOSE OWNERS.

AND I THINK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION AND THANK YOU FOR CARING ENOUGH FOR A CITIZEN TO PULL OVER AND LIKE PUSH THEM IN A WHEELCHAIR.

THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ABOUT.

THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING WELL,

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ANYONE ELSE? OH, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T ADDRESS TOM'S COMMENT.

SORRY.

UM, SO TOM, WE PICKED THIS COMPANY, THE SAME COMPANY WE USE TO GET MR. HICKS.

THEY ALSO GUARANTEE THEIR PICKS.

THEY'RE VERY, VERY THOROUGH IN HOW THEY DO THIS.

WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM THEM ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

UM, WE GET THE DISC, YOU KNOW, THE PERSONALITY THING THERE'S SO MUCH BUILT IN.

WE HAVE OUR HAND IN THE PROCESS AND WE'RE GETTING THE CREAM OF THE CROP WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS.

AND IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN US TRYING TO, TO JUGGLE THIS IN-HOUSE IT REALLY IS A PERFECT COMPANY TO, TO DEAL WITH THIS.

AND WE'VE GOT STEVEN.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE A GOOD REFERENCE WITH US.

I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON THAT EXPENSE AND IT'S WELL WORTH IT WHEN WE'RE ESPECIALLY TRYING TO FIND AN ATTORNEY WHO UNDERSTANDS, UM, PARTICULAR LAWS AND CODES AND THAT THING IN A VERY SPECIALIZED SORT OF THING THAT WE'RE DOING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GO OUT AND FIND THE ABSOLUTE BEST PROFESSIONAL SO THAT WHEN WE'RE ASKING THEM QUESTIONS FROM HERE, THEY HAVE ANSWERS, THEY'RE READY.

UM, AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD USE OF OUR MONEY.

ANYONE ELSE? YES.

MR. MAYOR, UM, MR. SUTTON, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALWAYS A PROBLEM WHEN, WHEN THERE'S HEAVY SNOWS LIKE THAT.

AND, AND AGAIN, MY, MY WIFE IS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, BUDDY.

I MEAN, SHE, UM, SHE, SHE, SHE DEALS WITH, WITH, WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME PHYSICAL ABILITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND, AND I I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, WITH A WHEELCHAIR IN THE ROAD.

UM, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU.

WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE A REAL GOOD, HARD LOOK AT THAT.

AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD, WE WILL.

UM, MR. KILBY, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING IN.

UM, I SPOKEN, UM, LAST WEEK, I THINK IT WAS, UH, WAS, UH, STEVEN, UM, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT HONORING MR. BANKS, UM, SOMEHOW, AND, AND ME AND STEVEN WERE, WERE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY INSTEAD OF CHANGING THE NAME OF THE STREET TO PUT IT LIKE A MEMORIAL, THE THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE MR. BANKS, THE WILLIAM BANKS, UM, MEMORIAL, UM, WHETHER IT BE BYPASS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MEMORIAL AVENUE, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PUT A PLAQUE DOWNTOWN IN THE COMMON AREA WITH MR. KILBY'S, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND, UM, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANYONE ELSE WE'LL BE REAL QUICK.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS AGAIN TO OUR TOWN EMPLOYEES THAT WENT OUT AND TACKLED THAT KENDRICK LANE, UM, TRASH PROBLEM.

IT, IT IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF THAT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

SO I JUST, UM, MANY PEOPLE, THEY, THEY CAME IN ON THEIR OWN TIME AND SO RIGHT AROUND THE HOLIDAYS, THAT'S VERY, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS AGAIN TO MR. JENKINS, UM, FOR YOUR RETIREMENT, YOU DID HAVE SOME NICE WORDS AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THE MEN THAT WORK FOR YOU AND WITH YOU, UH, WILL BE SAD TO SEE YOU GO LIKE, LIKE WE WILL, UM, THE SNOW REMOVAL.

AND IS IT SUTTON OR I THINK I WROTE IT WRONG SHOTGUN.

BUT YOU CAN GRAB ME AFTERWARDS, BUT, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

UM, ANYBODY WHO'S SPENT ANY TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA OVER THE LAST WEEK HAS BEEN READING, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND STUFF.

AND I, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES THAT AREN'T AWARE THAT IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN THEIR SIDEWALK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE EVEN SUGGESTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE CLEANING OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR MAILBOXES AND THINGS.

AND I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S OUR ROLE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WE WOULD ALL, ANYBODY WHO LIFTED A SHOVEL LAST MONDAY AND TUESDAY, LIKE WE DID AT OUR HOUSE, THAT STUFF WAS HEAVY.

UM, AND IT WAS, IT, THERE WAS SO MUCH OF IT.

IT'S JUST HARD TO FIND A PLACE FOR IT TO GO.

SO, UM, FORTUNATELY WE DON'T, IT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE.

I'M SURE MR. BOYER WOULD AGREE, RIGHT.

THAT WE'RE ALL GLAD IT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE, BUT, BUT WE STILL DO NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS SEASON.

SO, UM, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING AT THEM.

I'M SORRY, PUBLIC COMMENTS IS OVER,

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UM, OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IS, UH, IS REALLY HURTING THIS PAST WEEKEND.

UM, THERE WAS, UH, A TRAGIC ACCIDENT AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT, UH, EVERYBODY TRY TO REMEMBER, UM, THE, ANYONE WHO'S GOING THROUGH A ROUGH TIME RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT'S THIS, SOME OTHER, UM, SOME OTHER LOSS IN THEIR LIVES OR BATTLE THAT THEY'RE FACING AND JUST KEEP, JUST KEEP OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR THOUGHTS.

ANYONE ELSE?

[9. c. Report of the Mayor]

UP NEXT, A REPORT TO THE MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, TOWN STAFF, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR, UH, DOING A GREAT JOB DURING THE SNOW.

UM, I'M TELLING YOU THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ICE ON TOP, IT'S STILL OUT THERE.

IT'S JUST LIKE WALKING ON A SHEET OF ICE, BUT LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN SNOW REMOVAL, UM, DAY AND NIGHT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, AND THEN DAVID, YOU KNOW, I POURED YOUR PLAQUE OUT AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE SHOWED TASHA, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GIFT CARD FOR ROYAL KING IN HERE.

YEAH.

SO I GUESS I GOT TO GIVE IT TO YOU NOW CAUSE SHE ALREADY SEEN IT.

SO REMIND ME TO GIVE THAT TO YOU YET.

OH, NO, THANKS AGAIN.

TODAY.

BEFORE HIS 30 YEARS OF SERVICE, WE REALLY WANT TO MISS HIM.

UM, AND THAT'S UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SO UP NEXT, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. DO I HEAR A MOTION? OH, I'M SORRY.

I'VE BEEN ASKED IF WE COULD TAKE A SHORT RECESS A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I THINK.

UH, COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN BROUGHT UP LAST TIME TO, TO ROLL CALL.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT GILLESPIE.

COUNSELOR WOMAN MAREZ.

[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

UP NEXT.

WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TO A HAIR EMOTION.

I MOVED THE COUNCIL APPROVED THING.

CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

THAT WAS SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE A SECTION A FOR THE JOIN, THE VIRGINIA HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.

THAT'S PART OF LOOKING OUT FOR PEOPLE AND, UH, TRYING TO FIND THE BEST RATES ON INSURANCE AND KEEPING THEIR PREMIUMS LOW.

UH, THAT'S IT THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

ANYONE ELSE? UM, I WANTED TO COMMENT ON WE'VE HAD IT BEFORE US IN THE PAST ABOUT CHANGING LAST YEAR, ABOUT CHANGING AROUND THE AGENDA AND HOW WE DO THAT.

AND THIS TIME, JUST TO POINT OUT HOW WE'RE CHANGING IT.

UM, IT'S JUST MOVING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION TO AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

OFTEN WE GET COMMENTS ABOUT PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, BEFOREHAND.

SO NOW JUST KIND OF PUTS THINGS BETTER IN LINE.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD, UH, I THINK A GOOD MOVE IN THE AGENDA.

CHANGING ANYONE ELSE.

WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD, COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

IT'S AN AGENDA IS PASSED

[11. A. Refer to Planning Commission Signs/Lights for Vape-Oriented Businesses – Lauren Kopishke]

UP NEXT.

REFER TO PLANNING, COMMISSION SIGNS, LIGHTS FOR VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

MS. PRESLEY, COULD YOU READ THE SUMMARY PLEASE? COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE REFERRING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE REVIEW OF SIGN AND LIGHT REGULATIONS FOR VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES LOCATED IN THE TOWN CORPORATE LIMITS AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO TOWN COUNCIL ON A WORK SESSION, YOUR EMOTION.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL REFERRED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE REVIEW OF SIGN AND LIGHT REGULATIONS FOR VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES LOCATED IN THE TOWN CORPORATE LIMITS AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO TOWN COUNCIL.

AND IT WORKS SESSION SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES, THAT'S MY DISCUSSION NIGHT APPARENTLY.

UM, SO I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE WORDED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY AS TO NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A PARTICULAR BUSINESS GROUP.

SO VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

I WANT THE LIGHTS AND SIGNS TO BE, UH, NOT NEON AND FLASHING ON ALL BUSINESSES.

SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, I DON'T KNOW, THE CHRISTMAS STORE THAT OPENS UP ANNUALLY AND IT HAS FLASHING NEON LIGHTS.

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SO I THINK IT COULD RIDE WITHOUT THE VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESS SECTION, JUST LIGHTS IN GENERAL THAT ARE FLASHING NEON LIGHTS.

SO WHAT'S YOUR AMENDMENT.

ARE YOU PROPOSING I'M PROPOSING TO, UM, MEND OR TO CHANGE? OKAY.

YEAH.

SO I WOULD JUST TAKE OUT VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

SO I WOULD SAY REVIEW OF SIGN AND LIGHT REGULATIONS FOR BUSINESSES LOCATED IN TOWN CORPORATE LIMITS VERSUS VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

SO THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO VISIT IT AGAIN.

I THINK THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE CHANGE.

I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD JUST COVER ANYBODY THAT, THAT ALL, ALL BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT HAVE LIGHT ISSUES.

SINCE IT WAS ALREADY EMOTIONAL FOR A SECOND.

AND SO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

AM I RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

I NEED A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT, THE AMENDMENT STILL GOOD.

AND NOW DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT.

IF THERE IS ANY DISCUSSION NOW VOTE ON THE IMAGE, WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER.

HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR COCKROACH ON THE AMENDMENT TO REMOVE VAPE ORIENTED BUSINESSES AND THE MOTION AND THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

VICE MAYOR.

SOUNDS MEAN GILLESPIE.

AND NOW EMOTION FOR OR ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT.

YOU NEED TO VOTE ON YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION WITH, WITH THE AMENDMENT.

YOU HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL EMOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL WITH.

YES, I THINK SO.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE THE NEW AMENDMENT THAT WHICH INCLUDES TAKING IT OUT.

YES, EXACTLY.

MIRROR, BEFORE YOU MOVE, UH, STAFF OFF ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT WE ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING CONCURRENTLY FOR ITEM 11, A WHILE PLANNING, COMMISSIONS ADVERTISE IN THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.

WE JUST LIKE COUNCIL'S CONCURRENCE ON THAT.

WOULD THERE BE GOOD? YEAH.

I'M GOOD.

OF NEXT, REFER TO PLANNING COMMISSION, TEXT AMENDMENTS TO TELCO CHAPTER 1 48.

MOVING ON TO B

[11. B. Refer to Planning Commission Text Amendments to Town Code Chapter 148 – Lauren Kopishke]

READ THE SUMMARY, PLEASE.

COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TEXT AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1 48, THE SUBDIVISION LAND DEVELOPMENT TO REMOVE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM ANY PLAN REVIEW BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE STATE CODE AS PRESENTED MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL REFERRED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TEXT AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1 48 SUBDIVISION LAND DEVELOPMENT TO REMOVE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM ANY PLAN REVIEW BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE STATE CODE AS PRESENTED.

THAT WAS SECOND SECOND IN DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE A ROLL CALL.

OH, JUST, UH, AS DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION.

UM, WHEN WE WENT BACK AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, ACTUALLY BRINGS OUR CODE, UM, MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE STATE INTENDED FOR, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONS, ACCORDING TO THE STATE, UM, STATUTES.

AND THAT I THINK IS, IS AT LEAST ONE REASON WHY I THINK THIS IS A GOOD MOVE.

AND IT ALSO CUTS DOWN ON THE CONFLICT AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I, I AGREE.

WHAT ELSE? UM, I'LL JUST SAY IT'S IN LINE WITH ALSO, UH, FIXING SOME OF OUR PROCESSES AND STREAMLINING THINGS.

SO MAKING IT EASIER FOR FOLKS TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

SO I THINK IT'S GOOD.

THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR COCKREL YES.

UM, NEXT APPOINTMENT OF INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY, THIS PRESLEY COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPOINT JAMES E CORNWELL JR.

UP NEXT TO, UH, THIS TWO LIGHT ITEM, BUSINESS ITEM 11 B STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE ADVERTISE AS CONCURRENTLY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC CARING.

[11. C. Appointment of Interim Town Attorney]

ESQUIRE AS THE INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL UNTIL SUCH TIME.

COUNCIL APPOINTS A FULL-TIME ATTORNEY.

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MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPOINT JAMESY CORNWELL JR.

ESQUIRE AS THE INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL UNTIL SUCH TIME, A FULL TIME A TOWN ATTORNEY IS APPOINTED.

SECOND, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CAN WE HAVE A NICE MAYOR? COCKREL YES.

NOMINATIONS TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, THAT'S PERFECTLY, COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO NOMINATE MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TO THE JUDGE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR UNEXPIRED TERMS. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL NOMINATE THE FOLLOWING TWO MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TO THE JUDGE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT.

[11. D. Nominations to Board of Zoning Appeals]

CHRISTINE, AARON TO NICK UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING MAY 1ST, 2025 AND MICHAEL L S WILLIAMS TO AN UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING MAY 1ST, 2024.

SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION BEING NONE.

WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR.

IS THIS BEING THERE? NO OTHER BUSINESS.

HANG ADJOURN.

I'M SORRY, MARIJUANA.

UH, HAVE WE, UH, DO WE AGREE ON A FEBRUARY 1ST OR SECOND? OR DO WE NEED MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE LEAVE MIRROR? I CAN DO EITHER IF WE'RE TRYING TO PICK A TIME TONIGHT, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 2ND, I CAN ACCOMMODATE A STAFF REQUESTED.

IS THAT RJ? I THINK SO.

THE SECOND THIRD WAS THE ONE, THE THIRD LOOKED AT THAT.

I THINK IT'S THE SECOND.

ISN'T IT? OH, IT'S SECOND AND THIRD OR SOMETHING.

IT'S A THIRD.

YEP.

WE MIGHT AS WELL DO IT.

IF STAFF WANTS WEDNESDAY, I CAN WORK WITH WEDNESDAY.

AND HOW LONG, HOW LONG SHOULD WE BLOCK FOR THAT? YOU'RE SAYING IT'S SIX 30 TO APPROXIMATELY WHAT TIME? I WOULD SAY UNTIL EIGHT 30.