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[I. CALL TO ORDER]
7:17 PM.I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.
AND, UM, UH, WE COULD DO A ROLL CALL, BUT I WOULD JUST ASSERT THAT WE HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT ATTENDANCE SO WE CAN FOREGO THE ROLL CALL.
UM, THE SECOND, UH, NEXT ITEM IS A CITIZEN COMMENTS, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE A COMMENTS ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, TONIGHT.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY COMMENTS.
[IV. PUBLIC HEARING]
A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FISCAL YEAR, 2023 TO 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE DRAFT CIP FOR CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THE CIP IS NOT A BUDGET, BUT RATHER IS A PLANNING AND FINANCE TOOL THAT IDENTIFIES NEEDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THE COMING FIVE FISCAL YEARS.
SO, UM, UH, AS
I CAN TRY TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS.
UM, SO THE GENERAL FUND AND SOME OF THE STREET PROJECTS ARE IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THESE ARE HERE SO THAT IF A REZONING IS APPLIED FOR THESE, UM, CAN BE INCLUDE MENTIONED IN THE PROFFER SO THAT, UM, WE CAN HAVE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT TAKE PLACE.
UM, AND I'VE GOT STAFF HERE ON HAND TO DISCUSS THE ELECTRIC AND THE WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS AS NEEDED.
WELL, THERE, THERE ARE MANY PAGES THERE.
I DID READ AT LEAST PARTS OF ALL OF THOSE PAGES.
AND, UH, I HAD LEARNED ABOUT AN AWFUL LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT I NEVER KNEW EXISTED, AND THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN AND MAYBE MANY OF THEM NEED REPLACEMENT, BUT I WAS, UH, I WAS A LITTLE BIT BLOWN AWAY BY THAT, UH, JUST THE SCOPE OF, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT AND THE USAGE FOR THEM.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS ARE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THIS ARE A MOTION? OH, NO.
I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND OFFER ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UH, HEARING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, WE ARE, WE CAN CONSIDER IF WE ARE READY TO, UM, WITHIN THE COMMISSION, IF WE ARE READY TO VOTE ON THIS, OR IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN COULD ASK A QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE IMPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACCEPTING THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN? I MEAN, ARE WE SAYING THAT WE AGREE THESE ARE ALL GREAT HIGH, EQUALLY HIGH PRIORITIES, AND WE APPROVE OF THE BUDGET PARAMETERS AND WE APPROVE OF THE SCHEDULING.
ARE WE SAYING THAT, ARE WE IMPLYING THAT TELLING TOWN COUNCIL, HEY, GO FOR IT FULL STEAM AHEAD.
YOU HAVE A BLESSING ON EVERY ONE OF THESE.
WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING WITH THIS? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
UM, MS. COOK, PESKY, AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT? UM, I WOULD TYPICALLY DEFER THIS TO LEGAL, BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE LEGAL HERE AT THE MOMENT, UM, CHAPTER 15.2 DASH 2 2 3 9, UH, BASICALLY STATES THAT IT IS THE LOCAL PLANNING COMMISSION STUDI TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT ANNUAL ANNUALLY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS TO GOVERNING BODIES OR OFFICIALS CHARGED WITH PREPARATION OF THE BUDGET.
UM, IT IS ESSENTIALLY YOUR JOB TO REVIEW THIS, UM, MAKE SURE IT IS IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, THAT IT SUITS THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEN FOR THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE TOWN COUNCIL.
BUT YOU JUST READ THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DUTY IS TO PREPARE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
ALL IT'S ALSO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DUTY TO TYPICALLY PREPARE AND REVISE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT IN MOST INSTANCES THEY DO NOT ACTUALLY PREPARE
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THE PLAN THEMSELVES.SO DID YOU PREPARE THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN? I DID NOT.
THIS WAS PREPARED ORIGINALLY, UM, BY JEREMY CAMP AND THEN HAS BEEN REVISED BY, UM, VJ WILSON, UM, KATHLEEN LADAKH, AND THEN DAVID AND ROBBIE HAVE ALSO TAKEN PART IN PREPARING THIS PLAN.
AND THEN WHAT IS TOWN COUNCIL GOING TO DO WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION? UH, THIS WILL BE INCORPORATED.
THIS WILL BE A PART OF, UM, THIS IS A PLANNING TOOL.
SO THIS GOES INTO, UM, THE ADOPTED BUDGET.
AND THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE SO THAT WE CAN AS NEEDED, START, TAKE UNDERTAKING THESE PROJECTS.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
TYPICALLY THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AFTER WE HAD THE CONFERENCE.
NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHERE THIS FITS INTO ANY, THIS IS BLUE SKY AT RANDOM.
AS LONG AS PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE ARE THINGS ON HERE THAT, UM, FIT WITH THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S A LOT OF THESE, UM, THE TRAILS, THE EXTENSIONS, THE SIDEWALK EXTENSIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE CALLED OUT IN THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
BUT, UH, SINCE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS BEING REVISED AND CHANGED, I DON'T KNOW THAT ALL OF THESE WILL CONTINUE TO BE NECESSARY, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THEM HERE AND THEY ARE, WE'D HAVE TO WRITE UNTIL THE NEXT NEXT YEAR TO INCLUDE IT.
SO OUR APPROVAL BASICALLY SAYS, OKAY, YOU CAN PUT THIS ON THE SHELF AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO TAKE IT DOWN AND POLISH IT OFF.
I, I FOUGHT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, KIND OF LIKE A COMMENT PLEASE.
UM, ACTUALLY THE, THE CIP OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AS FAR AS PLANNING COMMISSION IS CONCERNED, OUR PRIMARY ROLE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CIP CONTAINS ITEMS THAT ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, OUTLINES THAT, UH, IT'S BASICALLY A TOOL USE TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS SET IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, WE DON'T LOOK AT AT THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT OR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT NEED FOR TRUCKS OR TRAILERS.
WE'RE NOT APPROVING THAT ALL WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT OUR PORTION OF IT WAS DEALS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT, UH, I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THE 156 PAGE DOCUMENT COMPARING IT WITH OUR PREVIOUS WORK.
UH, I KNOW ON THE SCHEDULE, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE SOME ISSUE WITH SOME TRAILS AND MAYBE SOME TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
I KNOW IN OUR 2024 PLAN, UM, WE'VE COMPLETED SOME PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THAT, UH, CIP.
DOUBLE-CHECKED THE NEW DOCUMENT VERSUS THE OLD NOW, WHEN WE MET AT THE WORK SESSION, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS DID NOT HAVE TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY WAIT UNTIL DECEMBER TO, TO HAVE THAT.
SO I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE TABLE ANY ACTION ON THIS.
WE HA WE'VE CONDUCTED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT THERE WERE SOME, UM, DIFFERENCES.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVERLOOKING ANYTHING, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER IN OUR 20 TO 24 PLAN, WE WERE VERY CAREFUL TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, MOVE UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOME COMMENTS ON IT, UH, THAT WE JUST TABLE IT, TELL THEM, TELL OUR DECEMBER REGULAR MEETING.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PACKET THAT WE WERE SENT.
UM, I GUESS WHERE, WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? BECAUSE WHAT TWO WEEKS AGO, THIS DIDN'T EXIST.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE, THE PROJECTS INCLUDED IN HERE VERSUS WHAT'S ON THE, UM, DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
SOME OF THEM DON'T ALIGN FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THE FIRST SHEET IN HERE IS FOR ENVISION 2.0, IT'S NOT ON OUR DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UM, ALSO THE COMCAST BUILDING REMODELED FOR OFFICE SPACE FOR EXAMPLE, IS NOT IN, UH, THIS BACKUP DOCUMENT.
UM, WE ALSO STILL IN HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THIS WAS JUST TAKEN FROM PREVIOUS WORK AND THE YEARS WERE CHANGED, REFERS TO A PREVIOUS DIRECTOR.
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SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW ACCURATE ARE THE COSTS THAT WE ARE PROJECTING? AND IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS ON A MONTH, THEN HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES SOME MORE TIME FOR, UM, FURTHER REFINEMENT.THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ORDER TO TRY TO HAVE WHAT WE CAN, UH, REALLY RELY ON AND ANTICIPATE OUR BEST UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO MR. MARCHANT IN THE PAST, IN THIS PROCESS, EXCUSE ME, PROVEN THE CIP.
WAS IT TYPICALLY ON SUCH A FAST TRACK THAT IT WOULD BE GIVEN TO US ONE MONTH BEFORE WE HAD TO ACT ON IT IN THE PAST? HOW HAS THAT TIMEFRAME WORKED? WELL IN THE PAST, WE NEVER HAD A TURNOVER OF PLANNING DIRECTOR.
SO, UM, NORMALLY IT HAPPENS PRETTY QUICK WITH, WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT A MONTH IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE.
UM, AND I WITH COMMISSIONER GORDON, UM, I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PROJECTS AND THIS, AND THE 156 PAGE REPORT MATCHES THE SPREADSHEET.
CAUSE I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT ALL SOUNDS CORRECT.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT RESOLVED BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING.
WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON IT.
I THINK ANOTHER WORK SESSION IS PROBABLY AN ORDER.
SO I'LL JUST MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS, TELL HER NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST RECOMMEND THEIR WORK SESSION? WELL, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
WHATEVER YOU SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT HERE.
I GOING TO SAY, PUT IT IN YOUR MOTION TO REQUEST ANYONE TO REQUEST THE WORK SESSION.
WE TABLE THIS, UH, UH, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 TO 2027 ON TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULED WORK SESSION.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND AND MOVED AND SECOND, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT? UM, THAT WE TABLE IT UNTIL OUR NEXT, UH, TILL OUR DECEMBER PUBLIC HEARING OR OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND THAT WE HOLD A PUBLIC HERE, WORKSTATION ON IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO TABLE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2022 TO 2027 UNTIL OUR DECEMBER MEETING HOLDING A WORK SESSION BEFOREHAND.
UM, MS. POTTER, CAN YOU, UH, A SECOND, A SECOND? YEAH, I BELIEVE FIRST WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT BEFORE WE CAN VOTE ON THE MAIN VERSION.
WELL, I CAN ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT WITHOUT YEAH, YEAH.
WE WON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT IF I DON'T ACCEPT IT.
THE WHOLE MOTION MADE BY MR. MERCHANT AS AMENDED BY LIKE, OKAY.
YES, IT WAS ACTUALLY YES, ACTUALLY.
AS PART OF OUR DO POLAR AIR CONDITIONER, COMMISSIONER INGRAM.
VICE CHAIRMAN MARSH, NER COMMISSIONER GORDON, COMMISSIONER MERCHANT.
HEY, THE, UM, THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED, UM, AND WE'RE MOVING ON.
UM, WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IT'S NOT NOTHING THERE, UH, OLD BUSINESS PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT AND THAT'S, UM, THAT REPORT, UM, IS, UH, BEFORE US.
AND, UM, THERE HAD BEEN QUESTIONS, EXTENSIVE QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT THE DATE DATES OF THE COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DATES ON THESE, ON THESE THIS REPORT.
SO ARE THERE, UM, ARE WE IN A CONSENSUS NOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO? I'VE HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES, UH, UH, DISCUSSED.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION.
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NAPIER GO TO RETRIEVE THE CORRECT REPORT? IS THAT WHERE HE WENT? YES.HE WENT BACK TO HIS OFFICE TO RETRIEVE THE REPORT.
WELL PERHAPS WE CAN PUT THIS, HOLD THIS IN ADVANCE AND I CAN FINISH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TABLE REVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT UNTIL THE RETURN OF MR. NAPIER LATER.
ALL RIGHT, MR. INGRAM, AND AGAIN, YOU, MS. POTTER, COULD YOU COMMISSIONER GORDON, VICE CHAIRMAN MARSH NER COMMISSIONER INGRAM.
MISSIONER MERCHANT CHAIRMAN JOE, YES.
UH, UNDER NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE NONE.
[VIII. DIRECTORS REPORT]
ITEM IS, UM, DIRECTOR'S REPORT, UM, F O R D A M 2 7 2 9 7 6 DASH 2021 DRAFT A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.SO WE HAD THAT IN OUR, OUR PACKET.
AND, UM, SO PERHAPS, UH, THIS CAPACITY, YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT THAT.
I HAVE INCLUDED THE DRAFT OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND JUST PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.
I INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER, AND THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ALSO IN DECEMBER AND THEN TAKE IT TO TOWN COUNCIL.
SO TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, THIS WAS ADOPTED, UM, ESSENTIALLY FROM THE COUNTY'S SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
UM, AND WHAT I'VE DONE HERE IS, IS JUST TRIED TO, UM, SIMPLIFY IT.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UM, BY RIDE IN SOME ZONES OR SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND OTHERS, I THOUGHT THAT THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE IT AT, BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND ALSO ZONES THROUGHOUT TOWN, UM, AND THEN HAVE A ONE-TIME APPLICATION FEE.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE INSPECTIONS AND TYPICALLY LIMIT THE OCCUPANCY TO, UM, 10 OCCUPANTS UNLESS COUNSEL STATES OTHERWISE.
AND THEN, UM, PROVIDE, UH, I GUESS, GUIDANCE, UH, PART OF THE UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE, UH, JUST FOR SAFETY MEASURES.
AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE IN HERE THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU THINK I NEED TO ADD OR A DRESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET OUT OF TONIGHT.
SO AGAIN, IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING THIS TO BE A TENTATIVE DOCUMENT AND, UH, UH, ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER CHANGES OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN CONSIDERATION IN DECEMBER.
WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY, WELL, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, IF NO ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OBJECT, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO.
YOU GOT A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE FOR THIS.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, GIVEN IT'S GOT SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT SOME VERBIAGE IN HERE THAT DEALS WITH, UH, BUILDING CODE.
I WOULD JUST STRONGLY, STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THIS IS, IS THE MOST UP-TO-DATE, UH, INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE THIS, UH, JUST REALLY GOES BEYOND, I THINK OUR ROOM FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STANDPOINT, BUT THIS CAN GET THE TOWN IN A LOT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS LIFE SAFETY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING WITH BUILDING CODE.
SO I WOULD MAKE SURE I WOULD, I WOULD TRIPLE CHECK THIS WITH THE LATEST AND GREATEST CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THIS COVERED.
SO THAT'S MY SMILE AND THE COMMENT.
I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO ADD JUST A, UH, AN ADDITIONAL THING FOR US TO CONSIDER AS THIS.
HOW, UH, HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS TO HAVE SUCH A, UM, SHORT TERM RENTAL POSSIBILITY? IS THERE A STRONG DEMAND FOR IT OR IS IT JUST THE ANTICIPATION OF,
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UH, AB UH, HOPEFUL DEMAND? AS OF RIGHT NOW? UM, THERE ARE WEBSITES LIKE AIRBNB AND VRBO AND THEY HAVE ORDINANCES.HAVEN'T QUITE CAUGHT UP TO TECHNOLOGY IN THIS INSTANCE.
SO THERE'S NOW A NEW WAY TO VACATION THAT'S THROUGH THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM TO ALLOW THEM, BUT THEY ARE PERMITTED IN THE STATE CODE AND THE STATE ACTUALLY COLLECTS A TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ON THEM AND THEN SENDS THAT TO THE JURISDICTION.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THESE OPERATING IN THE TOWN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO COLLECT THE TOT TAX ON THEM.
SO THEY ARE, THERE ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN TOWN, BUT AT THIS POINT THEY'RE TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL.
SO WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BROUGHT INTO CONFORMANCE.
LET'S CHANGE THIS, EVERYTHING.
AND PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT THAT, YOU KNOW, I, WE HAVE NO REGULATION OVER IT.
WELL, IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT WE NEED DEFINITELY TO HAVE SOMETHING APPROVED.
UM, MR. CHAIR, SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND DECEMBER WORK SESSION HE'S HAD.
UM, IF WE DO THAT IN DECEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON, UH, SURROUNDING LOCALITIES.
AND IF THEY OFFER SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHAT THEIR PROGRAMS ARE, IF THE DIRECTOR COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THE PACKET FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE TOWN OF STRASBURG, THEIR COUNSELED JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS APPROVED A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I'LL PULL, UM, I CAN PULL COLEPEPPER.
HISTORICALLY, WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THESE MR. CHAIR, WE'VE KIND OF COMPARED WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, COLEPEPPER IS CONSIDERED OUR SISTER, RIGHT.
UM, WORLD SINCE OUR VERY CLOSE IN POPULATION AND, AND DEMOGRAPHICS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT, WHAT, HOW THEY DO IT IF THEY HAVEN'T AND SO FORTH.
I'VE GOT SOME CONTACT INFORMATION FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
NOW CALL PEPPER APP WENT TO ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS EARLIER THIS SPRING.
UM, I NEED A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT IS TO TRUE.
WELL, I WILL MOVE TO TABLE THE, UH, UH, FRO THERE'S NO TABLE.
WE DON'T NEED A MOTION TO TABLE.
[VI. OLD BUSINESS]
SO I THINK WE ARE BACK TO NOW, UH, UH, TO THE, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.NO, UM, NO PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT AND, UH, OUR ATTORNEY OF THIS NAPIER IS BACK AND HOPEFULLY HAS INFORMATION FOR US.
UM, I THINK YOU DO HAVE THE CORRECT, UM, REPORT IN, IN FRONT OF YOU.
I THOUGHT I HAD REDATED, UH, THE REPORT, BUT I, WHEN I WENT BACK TO MY OFFICE, I SAW WHAT IT IS RATHER THAN, UH, CORRECTING THE DATE ON THE REPORT ITSELF.
OR I SENT AN EMAIL, UH, WITH A, UH, UM, CORRECTED, UM, WHEN I CORRECTED THE REPORT AND ADDED SOME INFORMATION, I, UM, UH, CORRECTED THE DATE ON THE COVER EMAIL, BUT I DIDN'T, UH, CORRECT THE DATE ON THE REPORT AND I JUST LEFT IT TO OCTOBER THE SEVENTH.
AND THEN I PUT A CORRECTION ON PAGE FIVE OF THE REPORT.
SO THE REPORT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, UH, DOES APPEAR TO BE THE CORRECT REPORT.
SO, UM, I APOLOGIZE, UH, I HAVE EGG ON MY FACE AND YOU DO HAVE THE CORRECT REPORT.
WE HAD, WE HAD MY, I HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE THAT'S, UH, OCTOBER 7TH, 2021.
AND IN PRINCESS UPDATED OCTOBER 21ST, 2021, THAT SEEMS TO BE DIFFERENT FROM EITHER ONES YOU'VE MENTIONED.
I, I DON'T HAVE THAT REPORT AT ALL.
IT'S NOT ON, IN, NOT IN MY COMPUTER.
UM, I, THAT ONE I DO NOT HAVE NOW I DO HAVE A CORRECTED ONE, UM, THAT WAS DATED OCTOBER THE 18TH.
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THEN ON THE COVER EMAIL, IT SAYS, UH, UH, DIRECTED, UM, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UH, TO, UH, UM, LAUREN COVID SCHEME.AND IT SAYS, PLEASE LOOK AT PAGE FIVE OF THIS REPORT FOR A CORRECTION.
AND, UH, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T NOT HAVE ONE ANYWHERE ON MY COMPUTER, UH, AT LEAST ANYMORE DATED OCTOBER THE 21ST.
AND IT'S NOT IN MY, UM, DOCUMENTS, FOLDERS.
UH, IT'S NOT IN MY, UM, SENT, UM, UH, FOLDERS, UM, UM, IN, UM, MY COMPUTER.
UH, SO I, THAT ONE, I DO NOT HAVE THE LATEST ONE I HAVE, UH, WAS DATED OCTOBER THE 18TH.
I HAVE ONE OCTOBER THE SEVENTH.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ADD, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD THAT RIGHT.
THE ONE THAT WE HAVE THAT SAYS OCTOBER 21ST, THAT IS FROM DOUGLAS W AND APPEAR YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT.
AND I THOUGHT, I REMEMBER SENDING ONE OCTOBER THE 21ST, BUT THE LATEST ONE I HAVE IS OCTOBER THE 18TH.
AND I DO NOT HAVE THE ONE DATED OCTOBER 21ST.
IT'S NOT ON MY PHONE, MY SMARTPHONE, AND IT'S NOT ON MY COMPUTER AT WORK.
AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ONE THAT'S DATED OCTOBER 18TH.
IT'S THE DATE NOT CHANGED ON THE REPORT? IT WAS JUST CHANGED ON THE COVER EMAIL.
AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UH, THIS IS FROM MY MEMORY, THE ONE ON OCTOBER, THE 21ST HAD JUST VERY SUBTLE CHANGES, UM, UM, MINOR.
BUT, UM, I DON'T RECALL PRECISELY WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE IN, WHY IT'S NOT IN MY COMPUTER.
WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS? I ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN OCTOBER 18TH AND OCTOBER 7TH, OCTOBER 18TH, OCTOBER 21ST AND NOVEMBER 17TH VERSION OF THIS REPORT NOW? NO, I, I DON'T HAVE A NOVEMBER 17TH VERSION OF THE REPORT I HAVE TODAY WAS SET OUT TODAY.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT ONE AND I DID NOT, UH, DRAFT 1ST OF NOVEMBER 17TH, BUT YOU DID ONE ON OCTOBER THE 18TH, OCTOBER 18TH.
AND APPARENTLY I DID ONE ON OCTOBER THE 21ST, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE.
SO MY FELLOW COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE THE OCTOBER 18TH ONE.
LIE AN EMAIL FROM OCTOBER 18TH, FROM DOUG, UM, WITH THE COPY OF THE REPORT.
BUT THIS ONE IS DATED OCTOBER 7TH AND, AND IT ADDS IN THE CORRECTION ON PAGE FIVE.
IT HAS A CORRECTION ON PAGE FIVE.
THAT'S THE CHANGE, WHICH IS VERSION, WHICH IS THE SAME, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT.
THAT'S THE ONE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IN YOUR PACKET.
IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE OCTOBER 7TH A REPORT.
UM, SO THAT IT'S, UH, UM, A LITTLE, UH, IT'S MORE CLARIFIED FROM THE SEVENTH.
THE, THE ISSUE THAT I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.
THE, THIS WAS THE OCTOBER 7TH.
IS THAT ON PAGE FIVE? WELL, I THINK I'VE GOT AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.
I'VE GOT AN EMAIL HERE FROM OCTOBER 27TH FROM THAT SAYS, UH, FROM CONNIE, FROM COURTNEY POTTER, SAYS AT THE REQUEST OF DOUG NAPIER, THE EMAIL BELOW IS BEING FORWARDED TO YOU AS AN FYI.
AND THERE'S AN EMAIL DATED OCTOBER 27TH AT 4 23.
IT SAYS ALEX, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
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LET ME SEE RIGHT HERE.I BELIEVE THIS ONE HAS THE DATE OF OCTOBER 7TH, 2021 UPDATED OCTOBER 21ST, 2021, OCTOBER 27TH.
MAYBE I JUST DIDN'T LOOK FAR ENOUGH.
SO THIS IS WHEN YOU SENT THAT RESPONSE TO ALEX RELEASE THAT WE DON'T NEED THEM ANYMORE.
THEY PROBABLY BE ENJOYING THIS.
IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE COULD RELEASE OUR, OUR TOWN REPRESENTATIVES.
AND I SAID, WELL, MAYBE YOU'RE ENJOYING IT.
SO YOU MAY LEAVE OR YOU CAN STAY RIGHT.
UM, ONE CLARIFICATION, I'M LOOKING AT MY EMAILS.
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT DOCUMENTS ACTUALLY ATTACHED IN THE EMAIL.
UM, THE TITLE BLOCK WAS COPIED BY DOUG OR EXCUSE ME BY MR. NAPIER INTO THE BODY OF THE TEXT.
SO, SO THAT, UM, UPDATED OCTOBER 21ST IS NOT ACTUALLY ATTACHED TO THAT EMAIL.
YEAH, NO, UH, JUST THE HEADER BLOCK.
SO JUST, JUST THE SECTION HERE, MR. CHAIR.
IF I MAY SAY SOMETHING, UH, THIS IS MR. NAPIER'S REPORT.
UH, CAN I ASK HIM TO TELL US WHICH ONE IS THE REAL REPORT? UH, THE LAST ONE I GAVE YOU WOULD BE THE ONE THAT I GAVE YOU IN IT, IT MADE, UM, LAUREN JUST MADE IT A GOOD POINT.
UM, APPARENTLY, UH, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I MAY HAVE MADE AN ADDITION TO THE REPORT AND CLOSED MEETING AND PERHAPS I DIDN'T EVEN SAVE IT BECAUSE WE WERE IN A HURRY IN CLOSED MEETINGS.
SO IT MAY BE, I DIDN'T DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE IT, BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY, UM, MOST LIKELY, UH, 20 THE REPORT AND THE 21ST WOULD BE THAT THE PROPER REPORT, BECAUSE DIDN'T, I GIVE YOU ONE IN THE CLOSED MEETING AND THAT'S PROBABLY YES, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENED.
I WOULD, UM, I WOULD GO WITH THE REPORT OF THE 21ST.
AND PERHAPS IF SOMEBODY GETS A CHANCE, THEY CAN SEND ME A COPY OF IT AND I'LL MY OWN RECORDS WILL BE UPDATED.
I CAN'T, HERE'S THE EMAIL THAT FORWARD TO YOU.
THIS HAS THE BODY AND IT JUST HAD RIGHT.
BUT THIS WILL NEED TO SELL THE REPORT HERE.
THAT'S THE ONE WE HAD AT THE MEETING, RIGHT.
AND I'D NEVER HAVE HAD A COPY OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK YOU WERE AT THAT MEETING.
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ONE DAY THAT HERE ON THE 21ST
TH THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES ON THE 21ST REPORT, CORRECT? SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE 21ST REPORTS.
NO, THERE'S ONE, YOUR FIRST REPORT IS DIFFERENT.
BUT THE CHANGES, THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING.
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WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT ON THE 21ST I WILL SAY THIS IF MEMORY SERVES ME, RIGHT.THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THE ONES BETWEEN THE, UH, UH, ONE THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AND THE ONE ON THE, UH, 21ST.
I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NUANCES THAT ARE DIFFERENT.
THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
WELL, CHAIRMAN CAN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OFFER AN IDEA HERE.
UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING HOW YOU'VE DONE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK FOR 45 YEARS OR SO.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE TO THE COMMISSION'S ADVANTAGE TO GETTING VERSION THE MOST UP-TO-DATE VERSION FROM MR. HERE.
AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU ALL OUGHT TO CONSIDER BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE IN A NIGHTMARE IN BETWEEN MAYBE DISPERSION THE NUANCES BETWEEN THAT VERSION AND THE OTHER.
AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT VINYL TO COUNCIL FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR YOUR OWN, FOR YOUR OWN SMELLS, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE WITH ALL OF THE DIRECTIONS, TO THE FINAL DATES AND THE MATCHES AND EVERYTHING ON IT, THAT'S ALL.
I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE THAT CONCLUSION, THE VERSION I EMAILED YOU TONIGHT IS WHAT WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC RELEASE TO COUNSEL AND TO EVERYONE.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT HAS THE RED ENCOUNTERED? YES.
SO THAT ONE IS DATED TODAY, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS OCTOBER 7TH, IT'S ACTUALLY MEANT TO BE TODAY.
UH, ONE DAY, OCTOBER 7TH IS WHAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT WENT PUBLIC.
IT WAS ACCOMPANIED WITH THE PRESS RELEASE THAT HE PUT OUT TODAY.
UH, AGAIN, UH, WE HAD A MEETING ON THIS ON OCTOBER THE 21ST, THE VERSION THAT WE DISCUSSED AND ACCEPTED AT THAT MEETING WAS DATED.
UH, OCTOBER TWO ARE REVISED THE 21ST.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THAT ONE AND WHAT THE TOWN MANAGER HAS RELEASED.
UH, HE MAY OBVIOUSLY NOT HAD THE LATEST VERSION, UM, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT.
UM, WE, WE NEED A FINAL DOCUMENT OF WHICH I BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE ONE WE LOOKED AT ON THE 21ST, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE RECOMMENDATION OR AN IDEA, COULD WE VOTE ON THE REVISED 21ST DATE AND SUBMIT THE REPORT THAT WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT, UH, TO, UM, MS. POTTER TO GO INTO THE MINUTES, THAT WAY THAT IS THE REPORT.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT, THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT COMMISSIONER GORDON IS WE HAVE, UH, THE REPORT ISSUED BY THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE TONIGHT.
THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE WHERE OUR PROVEN, WELL, I WOULD, IF I MAY SAY, I THINK THAT WAS, THAT'S NOT OUR FAULT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE.
I THINK THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION OF IT, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK, I THINK I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GORDON.
I THINK WE SHOULD JUST, SINCE WE DO HAVE ONE HARD COPY OF IT, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT DOUG HAS SAID, IT'S THE MOST UP-TO-DATE VERSION.
I SAID, WE VOTED ON THAT ONE AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS ONE IT'S ALREADY BEEN RELEASED.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, OKAY.
OH, I GUESS ALTERNATIVELY, IF, UM, MR. MAY BE, WE'RE SAYING THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, KURT, DOES IT HURT TO APPROVE THE ONE FROM THE SEVENTH IT'S ALREADY BEEN RELEASED? YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
I MEAN, IT'S, THIS IS HIS REPORT, SO, OKAY.
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AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKUP ON THIS, UM, COURSE, AND THE 15TH OF SEPTEMBER, WE MADE THE MOTION FOR THIS REPORT TO BE MADE.UH, I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE EFFORT THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS.
I KNOW THIS IS QUITE AN UNDERTAKING.
UH, IT IT'S VERY CONFUSING, BUT IT WAS A VERY DETAILED REPORT AND A VERY FACTUAL REPORT.
UH, I CERTAINLY LIKED THAT DOUG, I THINK HE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON IT.
UH, ON, ON THE 21ST OF OCTOBER, WE DID HAVE A CLOSED WORK SESSION WHERE WE DID DISCUSS THAT DOCUMENT DATED OCTOBER THE SEVENTH, UH, REVISED THE 21 OCTOBER.
UM, AND THAT'S THE REPORT THAT, THAT WE, AS WE LEFT THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE, UM, UH, TONIGHT I WOULD MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXCEPT THE INFORMATIONAL REPORT TITLED THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTERNAL INQUIRY REPORT CONTAINING 20 PAGES DATED OCTOBER THE SEVENTH, 2021, REVISED 21 OCTOBER OF 21 AS PREPARED BY DOUGLAS W NAPIER TOWN ATTORNEY.
THIS REPORT WAS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING MINOR SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, F R S U B DASH 2 8 5 2 DASH 2 0 2 1 BY MOTION APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021.
AND CONNIE, I HAVE A COPY FOR YOU.
UH, I FURTHER MOVED THAT THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS OUTLINED AND SAID REPORT BEFORE WE GET TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR IMPLEMENTATION AS POLICY OR AS PART OF THE TOWN CODE IN THE SUBDIVISION AND ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I CAN READ IT AGAIN FOR A SECOND HAS BEEN SECONDED.
UNLESS THERE IS A MOTION TO AMEND IN ANY WAY.
I WOULD, I WOULDN'T SAY LESS A EMOTION TO A MAN.
I SAY I'D SAY F UNLESS THERE IS A MOTION TO AMEND.
I PROPOSE THAT WE VOTE ON THAT, ON THAT MOTION.
IT IS A BLATANT GRAMMAR MISTAKE, SOMETHING THAT DESERVED TO BE AMENDED TO WIT I WOULD SAY NOW.
SO IF SOMETHING IS MARKED INCOMPLETED, IF SOMETHING IS MARKED COMPLETE, IT MEANS THAT SOMETHING NEEDS MORE TO BE SUBMITTED.
THAT IS THE PAGE FOR THE COMMISSIONER MARSH NER, EXCUSE ME, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THEY MARKET IN, IN THAT, THAT THEY MARK IT COMPLETE WHEN THEY MEAN IT'S NOT COMPLETE, THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO IT.
HERE'S YOUR KEY ASK THAT QUESTION MATCH THE WAY THEY DO IT IN THE SYSTEM.
SOME THE PERMIT SYSTEM ENTER GOV.
THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY CHOICES YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ASSIGN INCOMPLETE IS NOT A CHOICE.
I'M NOT I WHO WROTE THE THEATER PROGRAM NOW.
UM, I HAVE TO LOOK UNBELIEVABLE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT LABELS THAT WE COULD ASSIGN.
THERE'S A DROPDOWN MENU AND SHE'S KIND OF PICK THE CLUB.
THAT'S PERFECT FITTING FOR THE DAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THAT'S INVALUABLE TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE.
AND I, UH, THE, UH, THE STATEMENT OF THERE'S A STATEMENT OF FACT ON PAGE SIX OF THE OCTOBER 7TH REPORT, AND GIVEN THE CONFUSION, THIS, THIS PHRASE WAS DROPPED FROM THE OCTOBER 21ST VERSION.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THE FINAL VERSION, AND THAT IS THE PHRASE NEXT TO THE BOTTOM LINE ON PAGE SIX, QUOTE, AND THAT PLAT WAS RECORDED IN ZONING PERMITS, ISSUED PERIOD.
AND THAT WAS DROPPED FROM THE REPORT OF THE 21ST.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS ON THE ONE TODAY THAT NEEDS TO BE SET SOMEWHERE.
NO, THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND.
SO, UM, IS THERE A SECOND? WELL, I TELL HIM, WE CAN'T IMAGINE, CAUSE IT'S NOT A REPORT, BUT WE CAN HAVE A MINORITY REPORT MAYBE, OR YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE, THE COMMISSION NOTED THAT THIS IN CONSISTENCY, UH, NOTED THIS INCONSISTENCY PERIOD, COLON QUOTE.
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WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE AS HERE'S YOUR MARSHA RIGHT NOW.I REMEMBER TO EXPLAIN THAT ON THE 21ST REPORT, UH, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT AFTER THIS, UH, OCTOBER 7TH REPORT WAS WRITTEN, UH, UM, MR. HOLLOWAY, UH, SIGNED A DOCUMENT, A, UM, UH, AN INSTRUMENT THAT, UM, APPLIED FOR THE, UM, UH, PLAT THAT, UM, VACATION PLAT, UH, TO BE VACATED AND A STATE CODE ALLOWS THE PLAT AND ZONING PERMITS TO BE, UH, UH, RELEASED.
AND, UH, SO THE RECORDED PLAT WAS, UH, UNRECORDED.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT, UH, PHRASE, UH, WAS DELETED FROM THE OCTOBER 21ST REPORT.
AND THAT, THAT WAS THE, UH, CORRECTION.
AND THEN THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UM, CHANGES ON THE OCTOBER 21ST, UH, REPORT.
SO THE OCTOBER 7TH REPORT WAS CORRECT AS WRITTEN, BUT IN THE INTERIM, BY OCTOBER 21ST, THE PLAT WAS UNRECORDED AND THE ZONING PERMIT WAS ON ISSUED.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE REPORT SAYS OF THE 21ST, IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, THAT'S WHEN WE THAT'S WHEN WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THE MAYOR VACATED THE SUBDIVISION PLOT THAT WAS RECORDED ON WHEN DID HE RECORD THAT? JULY 6TH OR SEVENTH? YEP.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS SIGNED ON JUNE 29TH.
HE RECORDED IT ON JULY 7TH, I THINK.
AND THEN THE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED JULY 29TH AND APPROVED JULY 30TH.
SO THEN HE VOLUNTARILY VACATED THE PLAT OR, SORRY.
WHAT WAS IT? THE 13TH OR 14TH OF SEPTEMBER.
AND THAT, THAT IS, UH, I BELIEVE THAT IS MENTIONED, BUT THE SEQUENCE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M POINTING OUT IS THAT THIS FIRST STEP, WHICH WAS THAT THE, UH, UH, THE PLOT WAS RECORDED IN THE ZONING PERMIT ISSUE THAT ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN.
AND THAT HAS THE ZONING MUSCLE, BUT HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM THE REPORT.
THE ZONING PERMITS, THOSE WERE ISSUED ON THE 30TH, AND THEN THEY WERE REVOKED THE WEEK OF THE WORK SESSION.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND SEPTEMBER 9TH OR 10TH, AND THEN HE VACATED THAT PLOT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND THE DATES AND THE SEQUENCE, WHICH IS NOT CLEAR IN THIS REPORT.
WHY DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO MAKE, JUST TO MAKE THE CLARIFICATION? I MEAN, THE EXPLANATION HAS BEEN GIVEN, BUT FOR THE RECORD, DO MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO MAKE THIS MR. CHAIR, I WITHDRAW MY NOMINATION OR MY EMOTION TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK AND DIRECT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO GET US THE FINAL COPY, THE VINYL VERSION OF, UH, MR. NEIGHBOR'S REPORT, UH, FOR US TO REVIEW AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING TABLE, THIS ACTION UNTIL THAT POINT, ACTUALLY THERE IS NO TABLING.
I'M JUST WITHDRAWING ON, ON MY, UM, MY MOTION.
AND, UH, I ASKED THAT THIS BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, UH, DECEMBER MEETING, UH, THAT DOES NOT AFFECT AT ALL THE RELEASE OF THE REPORT THAT THE TOWN MANAGER DID THIS AFTERNOON.
UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE CORRECT VERSION TO APPROVE FOR OUR MINUTES.
YOU JUST MENTIONED, I WOULD TRY MY SECOND SESSION OR A, IT HAS TO HAPPEN AT A REGULAR WEIGHT IF IT'S AVAILABLE FOR, FOR PERUSAL AT THE, UH, AT OUR WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER, THAT WILL BE FINE.
UH, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE IF WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR TWO MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, CHRISTMAS DOES OCCUR DURING, UH, DECEMBER.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT, BUT WE COULD
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HAVE A WORK SESSION AND A MEETING AT THE SAME TIME, A WORK SESSION EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER, BUT, BUT AS LONG AS WE GET THE DOCUMENT BY EMAIL, THAT IS THE FINAL CERTIFIED WHATEVER WATERMARKED, UH, COPY VERSION, WHICH, UH, TO ME IS THE OCTOBER 7TH REVISED THE 21ST.UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO COMPARE THE DOCUMENT TO, UH, THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT IN OUR REGULAR DECEMBER MEETING.
UM, BUT IF IT'S AVAILABLE EARLIER, OBVIOUSLY EMAIL US WITH IT.
SO YOU YOU'RE TO MAKE THAT AS BRIEF AS WE CAN, THAT YOU HAVE WITHDRAWN YOUR MOTION.
I'M WITHDRAWN WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE AND UP-TO-DATE COPY FOR OUR DECEMBER MEETING.
ARE WE PROBABLY READY TO ADJOURN? UM, I THINK WE ARE.
ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION REPORTS ITEM NINE? NOPE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN.