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[Town Council Work Session on November 8, 2021.]

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OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH, 2021.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME AMBER MORRIS TO THE TABLE AND IT JUST BREAKS RELATIONS.

WON'T THE ELECTION I HAD TO BE HERE.

WELCOME TO THE HOT SEAT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND IT.

UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DOUG CALL IN OR STILL GOING LINE CALLED IN.

I DON'T BELIEVE DOUG HAS CALLED HIM.

SORRY.

IS THAT GARY? YES.

YUP.

YUP.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL READY.

OKAY.

UH, FIRST UP, UH, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS, UH, BJ FIRST ONE ON THE AMENDMENT FROM THE GRANT WANTS TO RECEIVE $2,090 MILLER PARK AND AWARDED IT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BRING THOSE FUNDS IN HOUSE AND BE ABLE TO EXTEND THIS STRANGE QUESTION.

GERTRUDE MILLER PARK.

WE THAT'S THE ONE PART, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE COUNTY IS UNDER PARKS AND REC, BUT RICHARD MILLER PARK ACROSS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGHOUT THE CHURCH, GET CONFUSED.

MILLER PARK IS BEING ACROSS , WHICH , BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THERE'S NO FANCY LAND.

SO THERE'S LIKE A RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE NEXT TO THE BASEBALL STADIUM.

THERE'S A FEW ITEMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THERE.

AND THEN THERE'S AN HONOR TO BE ON THE AWNING TOO, IS THAT THE ONLY THE GERTRUDE IS NOT OURS AT BOWMAN PARK IS OUR PARK IS NOT THE .

I WAS THINKING, MAN, WE OWN SOME SPACE.

SO IN THIS AMENDMENT, IN THIS, IT SHOULD SAY BOWMAN PARK OR THEY'RE GOING TO VIRTUE PART.

OKAY.

YES, THEY ARE WONDERING, LET'S MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT UP AT THE LATEST, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT Y'ALL Y'ALL FOR TREES AND THE TREES IS ALL I'M SO SORRY.

SO THEY GO TO THE COUNTY IT GOES TOWARDS OUR TREE CITY USA AT THIS POINT.

SO IT'S MORE IN THE COMMUNITY.

GOTCHA.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? QUICK ENOUGH.

HOW MANY TREES CAN I BUY? I HAVE NO IDEA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT ENTER INTERFUND TRANSFER FOR BONUSES, UM, REQUESTING COUNCIL TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TWO HUNDRED FORTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FORTY THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED TWO DOLLARS.

UM, AND TO ALLOCATE A HUNDRED, 4,957 FUNDS.

SO OUTBOUND THIS THE AMOUNT OF $1,500, THAT'D BE GIVEN THE BOYS TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR THEIR HARD WORK EFFORTS AND DEDICATION AND SUPPORTING US DURING THE COVID 19.

AND BEFORE WE GO THERE, YOU WANT TO GIVE A BACKGROUND INFORMATION ALSO WHAT THE STATE'S DOING WITH POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND THEN WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING AND STUFF OFFSET IT.

THAT'S WHY.

AND IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, YOU ALL DID

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SOMETHING COMPARABLE, BUT, UM, JUST AGAIN, THIS IS TRYING TO STAY IN LINE WITH WHAT SOME OF THE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT COUNTY IS DOING.

UM, BUT THE, UH, THE STATES WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS GIVEN A $3,000, UH, FOR ALL LEO'S OFFICERS, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE STATE POLICE, UM, ALSO THE JAIL, UH, RSW REGIONAL GAMING.

UM, AND THEN THAT MONEY IS GOING FROM THE STATE, UH, TO THE LOCALITIES TO DISTRIBUTE TO THOSE LEOS WE'RE RECOMMENDING 1500.

LAST YEAR, WE DID A $1,200 AND THEN $1,500 FOR, UH, THIS GO ROUND IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, COVID MONEY.

OR THIS IS A SAVINGS WE REALIZED FROM, UH, NOT HAVING TO FRONT MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE USED FOR CARES, AND ALSO KEEP THEM UNDER COVER FUNDS, DID COVER PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES.

THAT IS A PART OF THE OFFSET, BUT I JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WILL TELL YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATES, THE CHALLENGES AND HOW PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS YEAR SEEMS TO BE REALLY TOUGH FOR EMPLOYEES ON DOING A LOT MORE STUFF.

SO WHILE $1,500 IS, IS, IS THIS SOMETHING IT'S, IT'S STILL, AGAIN, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DO, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONTLINE POSSIBLY DO 2000.

YES.

YOU CERTAINLY CAN.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

I THINK SO, BECAUSE UNCLE SAM TAKES 40% OFF THE TOP.

IT'S A LUXURY BAG.

SO, I MEAN, IF I BE IN AGREEMENT WITH HER, WHEN YOU HAVE TO LINE OUT OF HERE WITH FICA, IS THAT THE TAX INCLUDED ON HIM, CONSIDERING THAT IT LOOKS THAT THE TOWN'S PORTION OF THE TAX.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S COUNTED INTO THAT 240,000 ALREADY.

SO WE WERE ALREADY COUNTING FOR THE TAXES FOR THE TOWN'S PORTION, NOT THE EMPLOYEE'S PORTION.

EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE THEIR DEDUCTION TO BE DETERMINED WITH THAT.

UM, IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EACH EMPLOYEE, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ROUGHLY, I MEAN, A GOOD, GOOD NUMBER TO USE IT AS MUCH SLEEP PERCENT.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY UP IT TO MAYBE 2200, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS, AND THEN MATCH THAT INSTEAD OF JUST RUNNING IT UP TO 3000, WE WOULD HAVE TO, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ESTIMATE AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

THAT'S WHY WE GAVE $1,200 NOW.

SO THAT WAY THAT STORES WOULD ROUGHLY TAKE HOME A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UM, SO WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT THAT, CALCULATE IT TO FIGURE OUT SO THAT WE DO GIVE THEM THE AMOUNT VERSUS JUST ROUNDING OUT.

WELL, IT WOULD BE $2,100 CAUSE 40%.

WELL, I DO THIS RIGHT? HOLD ON.

I'VE PUT 1500 TIMES CLICK BARN GOT $600, BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD TAKE OUT.

SO THEY'D GET 900 AND 1500.

SO WE'D STILL HAVE TO GIVE THEM MORE.

WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM 2100 ACCOUNTING FOR 40%.

JUST GOING OFF OF THE IDEA, COVERING THE TAXES.

IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EACH EMPLOYEES.

I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ON THEIR MIND.

I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH THAT IF YOU GUYS ARE, I THINK IT EVEN OUT TO ABOUT $2,000 AVERAGE, BUT IT WILL BE HIGHER FOR SOME BECAUSE OF TAX BRACKETS AND STRAIGHT 40% OFF.

I MEAN, I KNOW WHEN I USED THAT OUTSIDE OF SALARIES, LIKE SALARIES ARE DIFFERENT WITHIN BRAT MOUNTAIN 40% ARE SOME JURORS.

I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WHEN THAT WAS GOING ON, THAT, UM, SOME OF MY FRIENDS WERE SAYING LIKE THEIR SPOUSES, THEIR COMPANY OR GOVERNMENT OR WHATEVER, THEY WORKED FOR SET AN AMOUNT, BUT THAT WAS THE AMOUNT THEY WERE GOING TO DEFINITELY TAKE HOME VERSUS NOT TAKE HOME.

AND I'M TRYING TO THINK WE GOT I, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WE GOT A BONUS LAST YEAR, FEDERAL WITHHOLDING IS A 22% FLAT RATE FOR BONUSES.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, I CAN LOSE 40% OF IT LAST YEAR.

I DIDN'T.

BUT WHAT DO TO GET TO THE NUMBERS GUY TO FIGURE IT OUT? YEAH.

I MEAN, UM, SO, UH, DO WE WANT THEM TO TAKE HOME 1500, TAKE 2000, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THIS IS ESSENTIALLY CARE'S MONEY THAT WENT TO OFFSET OTHER SALARIES THAT WE HAD ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THE CARRIERS MONEY WAS USED FOR OTHER THINGS THAT IT WAS ALLOWED TO BE ALLOCATED FOR.

NOW WE HAVE THIS MONEY ALLOCATE THIS, ESSENTIALLY.

YEAH.

AND IT'S A ONE-TIME THING.

IT'S NOT THESE TWO AMOUNTS HERE.

WE J SO THIS AMOUNT, THIS AMOUNT, THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

IT'S THE, THE TOTAL COST OF IT IS $240,000.

BUT WE HAVE TO, IF IT WAS 1500, THAT IS, UM, BUT WE HAVE TO TRANSFER

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A HUNDRED, $4,000 OVER TO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

WHAT THEY INTERNSHIP INTRO FUND TRANSFER.

IF IT ISN'T, THEN THE COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THAT.

SO THESE TWO AMOUNTS ARE GOING TO CHANGE ONCE YOU CALCULATE.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE BACK TO US BEFORE THE MEETING.

SO YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT TO WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR HIM TO BRING HOME.

SOME THAT WILL BE 2000.

YEP.

OKAY.

SO THAT MAKES SURE THEY KNOW THAT DECEMBER EIGHT IS OUR CHRISTMAS LUNCH, ANNUAL CHRISTMAS LUNCH, AND WE'LL HIT UP THE CHECKS.

IF YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO COME, WE'LL SEND OUT THAT SO WE CAN SHOW THEM, GET OUR CHECKS.

ALL RIGHT.

YUP.

UH, EXCEPT LAST YEAR ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BLOCK GRANTS, SOMETHING WE DO ANNUALLY.

UM, BUT UH, WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE A $2,690 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

UH, JUST AMAZING CRIME PREVENTION.

UM, I CAN SAY IT'S SOMETHING WE, WE PRETTY WELL DO ANNUALLY.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

DO YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE USING? UH, AT THIS POINT WE HAD LINED UP A MEETING WITH APPROVAL THAT WALGREENS WE NORMALLY GIVE, BUT WE'LL SIT DOWN ADMINISTRATION OR CHEEK.

WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.

SO SIT UP HERE WHERE THAT THERE'S ONE THERE.

THIS IS A BLOCKER IN THE 26 90 OR IS IT A BLOCK GROUND? THAT IS, THERE'S TWO LINES HERE.

UM, IT'S A BLOCK GRANT OF 26, 9 TO, WE HAVE TO BRING IN THE REVENUE AND THEN WE HAVE TO SHOW THE EXPENDITURE.

OKAY, PLEASE, PLEASE SUPPLIES IN GENERAL CHRIS EAT.

SO, YEAH.

SO WE'RE BRINGING IN THE MONEY UNDER THE, UH, GENERAL FRAME GENERAL FUND GRANT PER SEATS AT YOUR REVENUE LINE ITEM.

AND THEN WE'RE ALL SITTING WITH EXPENSIVE EMERGENCY SERVICES.

POLICE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE EXPENDITURE AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE ALLOCATED.

SO MAYOR THE WAY TINA, WHICH, WHICH I LIKED THIS, IT REACHED THE FLOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SHE'S BREAKING OUT IN CATEGORIES THAT YOU ALL NOTICED COMPARED TO OTHER TIMES.

SO THE F NUMBER ONE, THE F 22 BUDGET AMENDMENTS, WE AGREE.

THAT'S ALL CONSENT ITEMS, PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, STILL PUBLIC HEARING CHECK REPORT, RETAINING FILINGS OF DISCLOSURES.

I'M PROPOSING TO CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OUTDATED FOR ONE.

UM, I'M MARRYING IT TO REFLECT THE STATE CODE, WHICH MEANS WE'RE TAKING OUT.

SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES REALLY ARE DOWN CODE, SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED BY STATE TO BE FILED.

THESE, UM, I BELIEVE IT MADE THE TOWN ATTORNEY, THE CLERK OF COUNCIL, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR IN THE BAR THAT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE TOWN.

I CHECKED WITH NINE LOCALITIES.

THEY DO NOT REQUIRE IT.

THEY GO STRICTLY BY THE STATE CODE.

ALSO WE'LL BE ADDING FREEDOM.

THEY WILL HAVE TO FILE THE STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC, JUST LIKE COUNCIL HAS TO, THEY'LL HAVE TO ADD THAT AND ADDING YOUR TRAINING.

THAT'S REQUIRED NOW TOO IN THE STATE CODE.

WE'RE IN THE STATE CODE.

SORRY.

UM, IF YOU LOOK IN THE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE ATTACHED TO, AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'VE TAKEN OUT AND WHAT I PUT IN IT ALSO REFLECT THE NORMS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

THAT WAS NEVER IN THE STATE CODE.

IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR THE CLERK TO KNOW WHO FILES AND WHEN THEY FILE, WOULD YOU SAY THE TRAINING? I FELT LIKE WE HAD TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE YOUR TRAINING, EVERYONE HERE, BUT AMBER HAS, I'M GOING TO GET WITH HER NEXT FEW MONTHS YEARLY TRAINING OR JUST NO, IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS, BUT I KEEP TRACK OF THAT FOR YOU.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN TIME WAS UP TO TRAIN THE GUYS, I LOOKED AT IT AND I'M LIKE, SOME THINGS WERE MARKED OUT AND, BUT THE MAIN REAPPEARED LATER, SO LIKE UP HERE, IT SAYS TOWN MANAGER KIND OF ATTORNEY, BASICALLY.

NO, BUT THEN LATER IT SAYS THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED.

SO WHO EXACTLY IS BEING HELD? BEING THE JURY HAS TO REQUIRE, OKAY.

HIM IT'S IT'S NOT.

OKAY.

AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU WANTED TO TAKE OFF? I'M DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND CLERK OF COUNCIL AND THE BAR.

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THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED IN ST.

CODE THE TOWN ATTORNEY, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND POSSIBLY EVEN A CLERK SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY, UM, SO THAT WE COULD NOTE ANY SORT OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME DECISION MAKING POWERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

UM, EVEN IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED, IT JUST UPS OUR LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND THAT EVERYTHING'S ON THE UP AND UP.

SO I'D MOVED TO KEEP THOSE IN NINE DIDN'T NINE DIDN'T TELL ME, WELL, I CONTACTED NINE OUT OF ABOUT 20 AND THEY RESPOND TO NINE RESPONDED, BUT THEY'RE FROM LIKE, THEY'RE IN OUR AREA, THEY'RE IN THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY CALLED PEPPER BEING ONE OF THEM.

NONE OF THEM REQUIRE ANYBODY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE STATE CODE.

THAT'S TRANSPARENT TOWN.

AND I AGREE.

I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

SO YOU RENEWED THE BAR.

I DON'T SEE IT PERSONALLY.

I DON'T SEE IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE OTHER ONES ON THERE.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT GEAR? YES.

SO THE ONLY THING SO THE ONLY THING WE WOULD BE CHANGING FROM WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE TO NOW, IT'S JUST REMOVING THE BAR.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? THE LANGUAGE CLEAR DAY CODE LANGUAGE? IT HASN'T BEEN CHANGED SINCE 2009, SO THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.

UM, THE FORMS HAVE CHANGED AND THE TRAINING HAS CHANGED AND WE NEED TO ADD FRIDA.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOUR AMENDMENTS.

OKAY.

AND WE'LL LEAVE THE THREE IN AND TAKE OUT THE VAR.

IT'LL ALL BE IMPORTANT.

AND I'M PLANNING ON PUTTING THIS ON THE DECEMBER 14TH.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

THANKS TO YOU.

THE NEXT SHORT TERM RENTALS, THE LAST WORK SESSION, BUT I AM WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.

SO THIS WILL BE AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 1 75 AND ALSO CHANNEL FIVE.

CLARIFY THE DEFINITION.

UM, AS OF NOW, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN ALL ZONES, UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION TO HAVING IT, CERTAINLY.

YEP.

AND THEN, UM, THERE WILL BE A 6%, UH, TOT THAT WILL BE COLLECTED BY THE STATE.

THAT'LL BE PAID TO THE TOWN.

UM, AND THE SUP THE COST WOULD BE ABOUT $400, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD SUP FEE.

AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT DOING, UM, JUST COMPLAINT BASED INSPECTIONS INSTEAD OF DOING ANNUAL INSPECTION, UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION.

THE QUESTION ABOUT THE $400 IS THAT A ONE-TIME FEE ONLY IS A ONE TIME FEE.

OKAY.

I WAS IN THE VISITOR CENTER WHEN I WAS WORKING IN THERE VOLUNTEERING.

AND A LADY CAME IN VERY UPSET BECAUSE SHE WAS DEALING WITH THE COUNTY'S PROCESS AND SHE GOT YELLED AT, SHE SAID BY SOME FOLKS OVER AT THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE YELLING, TELLING HER SHE NEEDS TO COLLECT THE TAX.

AND SHE THINKS IT'S THE STATE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COLLECTING THE TAX, RIGHT FROM THE AIRBNB THAT SHE'S RENTING THROUGH.

IT WAS THIS WHOLE THING.

SHE JUST WENT ON ABOUT IT.

AND I FELT REALLY BAD FOR HER.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS SHE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT ECONOMICALLY SHE PULLED HER MONEY WITH SOMEBODY ELSE TO BUY A SMALL CABIN UP ON BLUE MOUNTAIN TO TURN INTO THIS RENTAL AND NOT $400.

I MEAN, A LOT OF MONEY TO HER ALL THE TIME.

YES.

BUT YOU ALSO THINK ABOUT STAFF TIME AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED.

YEAH, SURE.

IF WE'RE CHARGING $400 WITH A CLEAR PROCESS, LIKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNTY IS STILL STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM SOME OF THOSE MISTAKES MAYBE AND FIGURE OUT WHO'S COLLECTING THE, LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL HER SHE NEEDED TO COLLECT HER TAX AND PAY THE TAX.

AND HE TOLD HER TO STOP RENTING IMMEDIATELY.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDED LIKE A NIGHTMARE FOR HER, FOR HER, BUT, UM, SAME TIME, SHE'S JUST TRYING TO LIKE MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA MONEY TO DO THIS.

WELL, I'VE TAKEN THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE AND I HAVE KIND OF CHUNKED IT DOWN AND IT'S HARD TO SIMPLIFY THE THINGS, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO DO, THEY REQUIRE THEIR STAFF TO INSPECT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT I'M KIND OF THINKING IF WE DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS, I DON'T SEE A REASON TO BE SPENDING STAFF TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE OTHER INSPECTIONS AND VIOLATIONS THAT WE'RE BEHIND ON ANY WAY.

WHAT ABOUT PROPERTY MANAGERS? AND THE COMPLAINTS WOULD BE, UM, THEIR NEIGHBORS

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OR EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT STAYED THERE RIGHT.

COULD BE EVEN THAT.

RIGHT.

SO THE OTHER SUGGESTION IS THAT WE KEPT OCCUPANCY AT 10, UNLESS THAT, UH, COUNCIL APPROVES ADDITIONAL.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD MAKE THEIR CASE THE SIZE OF THE WELL, SO WE CAN, THE WAY THE COUNTIES ARE SET UP IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS.

AND THEN DWELLING UNIT SHALL BE DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN TWO ADULTS PER BEDROOM.

UM, HOWEVER, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHOULD OBVIOUSLY 10 OR LESS PER BUCKET.

I WAS THINKING, SO WHEN YOU DO THE BUNK BEDS, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ASSUMING THAT'S CHILDREN.

SO THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT FOUR KIDS IN THE ROOM.

THIS IS JUST, UH, A GUY IN ESSENCE, WHEN THEY COME THE SUP, IF THEY HAVE A GOOD, GOOD CASE OR, YOU KNOW, OR HOWEVER THEY FEEL, AND YOU WILL FEEL, YOU CAN CREATE A WAR.

THAT'S THE POINT? THAT'S THE REASON WHY LATITUDE WELL, CAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUP, THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BEDROOMS THEY GOT AND HOW LARGE THEY ARE, HOW BIG THE HOUSE IS, AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY FREE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN YOU CAN AT THE TIME CHOOSE TO AGREE WITH THOSE AND NOT AGREE WITH THEM SETTLING ON A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

AND I'M SURE THAT WHEN THEY COME TO APPLY, THEY SAY LIKE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

CAUSE I KIND OF WOULD AGREED ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF IT, 10 PEOPLE IN THERE, IF THEY'RE JUST SHOVING IT IN SHOVING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, SO PART OF THIS PROCESS IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN TO STAFF ALONG WITH A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION.

SO IT'S GOING TO OUTLINE EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO.

UM, ALL THE DETAILS OF THE PROPERTY AND THIS WILL HAVE THEIR EMERGENCY PLAN AS WELL.

SO, UM, THEY WILL BE PROVIDING US, US COUNSEL AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT RENT THEIR HOMES GIVE REQUIRES THAT THEY HAVE A LIVE LINE.

THERE'S NO CELL SERVICE.

IT REQUIRES IF THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO STOP.

IT REQUIRES THAT PARKING AT A FACTORY PARKING, BE LIMITED TO THE DRIVEWAY, UM, AND NOT IN THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAYS OR IN PEOPLE'S YARDS, UM, PROVIDE CHECK-IN CHECKOUT DETAILS.

UM, WE WILL ALSO TRY TO BAND SHOOTING, UH, FIREARMS, OUTDOOR FIREBIRD AND FIREWORKS, ATV BARBARY IN TOWN BECAUSE, UM, WELL THE FIRE MARSHALL HAD EXPLAINED THAT OUR TOWN CODE REGARDING BONFIRES DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE COUNTY'S CODE REQUIRE RECORDING BONFIRES.

AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION AS TO LIKE A NICE FIRE PIT.

AND IF SOMEONE'S BACKYARD SAY, I DON'T THINK OF A BOND, DYER'S LIKE A FIRE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP LOGS AND HAVING THIS, BUT LIKE THE SOLO STOVE OR ONE OF THOSE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THERE'S WE CAN'T DO THAT.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT EITHER ON BONFIRE THEN OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINED CONTAINED ELEMENT.

YEAH.

AGAIN, THIS IS SO AT LEAST THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF SAFETY MEASURES THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT CHECKLIST.

AND LIKE, IF I HAVE A REAL SHORT TERM, I COULD SAY, THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.

IT'S 10 FEET AWAY FROM MY HOME.

AND THEN YOU ALL CAN OBVIOUSLY APPROVE IT, BUT IT JUST KIND OF, IT'S MORE OF A CHECKLIST AT THIS POINT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S GETTING NITPICKY.

BUT THAT, AND THAT LADY TOLD ME, SHE SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS HOLDING HER UP WAS THAT IT WAS A ONE BEDROOM CABIN.

SO IT'S LITERALLY LIKE A ONE BEDROOM SPACE.

AND THE COUNTY WAS TELLING HER SHE HAD TO HAVE AN EXIT SIGN SHOWING THE EXIT, THE ONE DOOR THAT LEADS IN AND OUT AND THEY WERE HOLDING HER UP.

WELL, THEY REQUIRE A CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR AND ALL OF THEIRS.

THEY REQUIRE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER IN ALMOST EVERY ROOM.

UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

IF YOU FEEL THAT WE SHOULD DELAY THIS TIL JANUARY OR DECEMBER OR PUBLIC HEARINGS IN DECEMBER.

RIGHT.

AND WE COME THROUGH IT AND, BUT WE NEED FEEDBACK.

WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THAT SCALE OF ONE TO 10? DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF REDUCE IT, UH, KEEP THEM ON IT TO SUP PROCESS WHERE THEY COULD COME AND SHARE IT.

BUT I DO THINK THAT, UM, WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT OTHER LOCALITIES TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING.

I WOULDN'T SAY WARREN COUNTY WOULD PROBABLY BE, CAN WE GIVE HIM LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING TO FILL OUT, LIKE, YEAH, LIKE THESE ITEMS, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THIS, THIS, THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN THROUGH AND LIKE THE APPLICATION IT'D BE LIKE A CHECKLIST THEN YOU DON'T COME TO US AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IT TONIGHT OR WHATEVER.

LIKE, WELL, NOT, NOT THIS ITEM OR YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY IMPOSED ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU WANT TO, OR I GUESS RELAXED .

YEAH.

I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE ALL THAT ON THERE, LIKE THAT.

I WOULD JUST HAVE LIKE A CHECKLIST THAT WE CAN APPROVE OR I JUST WANT TO

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KNOW THE ABILITY END OF IT.

SO I CAN CHECK WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY FIRE CODES.

IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IT IN HERE.

WELL THEN EVERYBODY IN TOWN IS VIOLATING IT THEN TO BE 20 FEET FROM YOUR HOUSE.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T HAVE IT ON THE PORCH.

OH, THIS IS JUST A DRAFT.

THE GUIDANCE WILL, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WAS TO TAKE WARREN COUNTIES, UH, SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, MASSAGE IT AND GET BACK WITH YOU.

SO WE WILL HOLD OFF OR WE CAN STILL DROP IT TO HELP PUBLIC CARRY, TO GET INPUT.

AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU ALL, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TONIGHT THAT YOU ALL WERE OKAY WITH IT BEING JUST A STANDARD STP AND NOT WANT IT, UM, RELEGATED TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS OR THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO PLACE A TIME LIMIT ON IT OR THEIR INSPECTION.

WHAT'S THE APPLICATION.

IS IT ONLINE OR IS IT A PAPER APPLICATION WE'RE STARTING TO, I'M KIND OF IN THE PROCESS.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS ONLINE BECAUSE UM, PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO EMAIL APPLICATIONS, BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MOST UP TO DATE ONE CAUSING ISSUES.

SO, UM, I'M IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING PEOPLE CAN COME AND OBVIOUSLY SYSTEMS CAN COME AND EXPRESS ONCE THEY SEE THAT.

SO CONNIE SHE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC AREA ON THIS REPORT CALLED THE STEVE FOR PUBLIC HEARING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO FORWARD THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THAT FIRST.

YES.

BEFORE DECEMBER 13TH, THAT WOULD TELL HER NOT TO TRY TO PRESSURE MAYOR COUNCIL.

I THINK DOUG'S ON DOUG.

ARE YOU ON WITH ALL THE HAIR? ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PUBLIC HEARING, ALL RIGHT.

MEXICAN CREST WAIVER FOR LICENSED TAX FREEZE VOICEMAIL.

YEAH.

IN ESSENCE, THEY DO THIS EACH YEAR TO SELL CHRISTMAS TREES AND REQUEST A WAIVER, UH, STAY ABLE TO DO THE LICENSE AND COUNCILS.

THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN GRANT THEM THAT WAIVER IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS, CORRECT.

FOR SURE.

CAUSE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ON, IS THERE ANY CLEARANCE? CAN WE JUST MAKE IT LIKE A PERMANENT THING OR IF IT'S LIKE A NONPROFIT OR SPECIFICALLY BOY SCOUTS, WHATEVER THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY ABOUT PROOF THIS EXCEPTION EVERY YEAR WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE PROCESS.

YES.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YOU CAN'T.

UM, BUT I DO THINK MAYBE COUNCIL WANTS TO LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL NONPROFIT GROUPS.

IT IS.

THAT'S WHY WE COME TO YOU AND WE DEFINITELY WE'VE GOT TO COME EVERY YEAR.

THEY OUT PROFITS.

WE CAN WAIT.

WE CAN ALWAYS PUT SOMETHING WAY THAT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN THIS ALBUM COME REVISIT IT.

IF YOU WANT.

THAT'S GOOD.

IF IT'S LIKE BOY SCOUT SCOUT, THE SHIPPING LIKE A YOUTH ORGANIZATION.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, WHEN YOU'RE BACK FOR ONE YEAR EXTENSION SUBMIT DEVELOPMENT PLANS, I BELIEVE THIS IS TAD.

I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER A CONTRACT, BUT UNTIL THAT GOES THROUGH, THEY NEED AN EXTENSION TO SUBMIT THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEY SUBMITTED A MASTER LAND USE PLAN, BUT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL IT'S UNDER CONTRACT.

UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL INTERESTED PARTIES THAT ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNERS.

SO THERE'S NO CONTRACT.

THERE'S NO OFFICIAL TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

THE SAME STATUS PARTICIPANT IS NOW JOINING ERIC.

GOOD EVENING.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE JUST DOING? IT WAS THAT GARY DID.

ARE YOU ON HERE? OKAY.

OKAY.

PARTICIPANT IS NOW EXITING WELL, HAVING A GOOD EVENING.

AND, UH, WHAT WAS THE, THE RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT REQUESTING THIS, UH, CONTRACT EXTENSION WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO BADGES AGAIN? YES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, NOT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO REFILE THE

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SITE PLAN, BUT, UM, THAT INITIAL PLAN THAT'S ON FILE THAT KIND OF SHOWS THE FAMILY AREAS WITH A SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REDONE ESSENTIALLY.

BUT, UM, I THINK THE INITIAL OR THE IMPRESSION I'M GETTING AT LEAST FROM SOME OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES, IS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ANYWAYS.

SO I DON'T SEE IT.

I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE THE HARM IN EXTENDING THEM.

OKAY.

NOW I'LL TELL YOU WE HAVE AN ACTUAL CONTRACT.

I KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DIVIDE THAT UP INTO THE PAYMENT.

HOW MANY YEARS SAYS THIS EXTENSION GOING ALONG WITH THIS PROPERTY? POSSIBLY IN 2016, 16 ALRIGHT, GOOD.

UM, NEXT CONTRACT MODIFICATION, ATTACHMENT D PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICE BETWEEN AUDITORS AND ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED TO SANITARY SEWER AND FLOW RATION PAVEMENT OR CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION SUBCONTRACT SERVICES DURING THE DECEMBER, 2020, 2022 CONTRACT PERIOD.

IT'S HR THAT WHERE'D YOU PARK IS THIS, UH, UH, WHAT IS, UM, UH, CLIP THE CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION FOR THE SEWER SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM? UM, THE COST OF THE PROJECT'S ABOUT $130,000, UH, WHAT IT IS, IT'S A CAMERA WORK THAT OUR CREWS WERE NOT THE TOWN CREWS ARE NOT ABLE TO DO BECAUSE OF SHORT STABBING ISSUES.

UM, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SO WE CAN THE, UH, ENGINEERING DONE FOR OUR INI ABATEMENT, UH, TO HOPEFULLY GET INTO THE DEQ CONSENT ORDER HERE.

UH, WE'RE HOPING TO AWARD THAT CONTRACT COME FEBRUARY AND MARCH OF NEXT YEAR AND THIS WORK DARLA NEEDS TO BE DONE SO WE CAN HAVE THE ENGINEERING COMPLETED.

UM, AND, UH, SO WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT ON THE NOVEMBER 22ND, UH, MEETINGS TO THEN WE CAN GET THE CAMERA CREWS IN HERE THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER TO GET THIS WORK DONE AND GET THE, UH, THE IMAGES OVER TO OUR ENGINEERS.

SO THAT A WAY THAT CAN BE INCLUDED AT THE ENGINEERING WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BID OUT, I'LL SAY THE FUNDS, IF THAT'S HOW WE CHOOSE TO WORK, THAT WAS A LOT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE AS BEST I CAN AT THE END THERE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE ARPA FUNDS FOR THIS.

YES, WE CERTAINLY, YEAH, CERTAINLY CAN.

UM, W UH, WHAT THE PLAN IS RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE GOING TO USE THE MONEY THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR, UM, THE DEBT SERVICE TO COVER THIS.

SO IT'S NOT, WE WON'T NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

COUNCIL CAN AWARD IT, AND THEN STEVEN AND I CAN TRANSFER THE MONEY OVER FROM THAT LINE OF HIM.

OKAY.

THIS EXPENSE IS COMING UP BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT WITH THE STAFF WE HAD.

YOU UNDERSTAND? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

WHAT ELSE? ANY, ANY INVESTMENT IS THE BEST? THE BEST IS POOR RETURNS, BUT WE SPENT A DOLLAR FACEBOOK'S PROPOSED CENTRIFUGE, ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT.

OKAY.

SO A FEW MONTHS AGO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.

HE SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLING THAT CENTRIFUGE AND TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UM, THE, UH, GRANT, THE FAN PRESS THAT WE USE NOW IS, I GUESS IT'S OLD TECHNOLOGY, I GUESS, IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT A CENTRIFUGE WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF.

UM, AND ONE LIKELY FIVE TO 10 YEARS, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS, UM, HAVE OWNER ENGINEERING REPORT DONE THAT TO ALLOW US TO SEE WHAT THAT PAY OFF WILL BE, UH, IN THE PROCESS AND WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS APPROVED NOW IS THAT INTERNAL CENTRIFUGE, BUT END OF THE WEEK FOR A TREATMENT PLAN FOR TESTING TO SEE HOW EXACTLY WHAT OR WHAT THE BENEFITS WILL BE MOST LIKELY, THOSE WILL CUT OUR CHEMICALS DOWN BY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ALONE BY ITSELF.

SO, UM, BUT WHEN YOUR PARTICIPANT IS NOW EXITING, UM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO, IF WE CAN INSTALL IT IN THE EXISTING BUILDING, IF A NEW BUILDING BUILT AND EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO.

THE COST OF THE PRELIMINARY AND GENERAL ENGINEERING REPORT WOULD BE ABOUT $33,000.

ACTUALLY IT IS.

I'M JUST WRITING OUT ABOUT $33,000.

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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING COUNSEL TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE.

SO THAT WAY WE SEE THIS MOVEMENT, YOU HAVE THE EXTERNAL CENTRIFUGE IN HERE, SEE HOW IT WORKS.

UH, UM, BEFORE IT GETS TOO COLD, IF IT GETS TOO COLD, WE CAN'T RUN THE CENTRIFUGE OUTSIDE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH NOW, RATHER THAN PUSH THIS OFF UNTIL THE SPRING.

ANY QUESTIONS THERE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAN AND A WAY TO BE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE.

ALRIGHTY.

SO BEFORE WE GO, SO WE AGREE ALL OF THIS WILL BE ON TO CONSIDER, UH, COMMITTED MEETING ITEMS FOR DECEMBER 2ND.

SO YOU ALL WILL SEE THAT I'M AT SEPTEMBER 16TH, WE HAD OUR LIAISON MEETING, UH, GARY, UH, COUNCILMAN GLITZY AND COUNCILMAN COCKEREL.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE ATTENDING THAT AS WELL AS THE MAYOR.

AND AS A RESULT, THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ITEMS ARE ALSO ON THE TABLE, JUST FOR A REFRESH.

AND ALSO FOR CERTAIN GUY THAT IF YOU SEE ANYTHING ON HERE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT OR ADD ANYTHING, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY SINCE OUR MEETINGS ON DECEMBER 2ND, UM, I WANTED TO DISCUSS THE FOOTBALL FIELD AS THE OLD MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AGAIN, IT'S NOW THE CIVIL SERVICES BUILDING, I THINK, IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.

UM, SO YOU MAKE THAT FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE MIDGET FOOTBALL LEAGUE, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE KIDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SAY SOME EXPENSES THERE, THE NO, THAT AFTER WE BROUGHT THAT UP AT THE LAST MEETING THAT, UM, THE COUNTY, UM, THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT CAME AND DID LIKE, UM, A, A PRESENTATION ABOUT ALL THEIR SERVICES AND ALL THEIR PROGRAMS AND THEIR USAGE, THESE, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS PART OF IT TOO.

I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK THEY BROUGHT IT.

I THINK THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO THEM.

I MEAN, I THINK BECAUSE WHEN WE BROUGHT IT UP AT THE LAST MEETING, THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.

AND I ONLY KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE WATCHED, I WAS AT, I WATCHED THEIR MOVIE, THE CANDIDATES, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE CHARGING A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

IF THE KIDS WANT TO PRACTICE THERE OR HAVE A GAME THERE WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN INCURRING ANY EXPENSES, THE TEAM CARRIES THEIR OWN INSURANCE, WHERE THEY ARE SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

SO THEY'RE JUST COLLECTING THE FEE FOR THE SAKE OF COLLECTING A FEE.

WHAT ELSE HAS HAPPENED AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD? NOTHING, RIGHT.

YEAH.

WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON THERE? NOTHING.

I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THEY, AND THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BRING IT UP AGAIN.

I JUST SAID THAT THEY DID A PRESENTATION AND PARKS AND REC GOT EVERY ONE OF THEIR FACILITIES AND WHAT THEIR USAGE B'S RIGHT.

WHAT IT WENT FOR.

AND I HONESTLY, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT FOOTBALL.

THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR THEM LINING THE FIELD AND THEN THE LAWN CARE OF IT.

THAT WAS PART OF ALL OF THAT.

IF IT WAS $500 A GAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S EXCESSIVE FOR THE LITTLE SIDE, IF THAT LECTURE.

SO, SO THE PANTS AND THE DECEMBER 2ND MEETING, I DO RECALL, AND I'VE NOT SEEN THAT THEY DID TAKE MINUTES.

SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO PULL THE MINUTES AND SHARE AMONG THE GROUP, BUT IN ADVANCE OF IT, UH, COUNCILMAN THOMPSON OFF, I'M GOING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THIS ONE FOR YOU AND SEND IT TO YOU AND WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ATTENDING THIS SESSION.

AND THAT IS UP TO THE MAYOR OF MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROTATION WOULD BE COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN AND KELSEY, ILLINOIS.

AND THEN ANY OF YOU ALL COULD BE ON THERE.

NO PARTICIPANT IS NOW JOINING ME.

DO I GET ADDED INTO THE ROTATION? WHICH I THINK BE GOOD.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT'D BE GOOD FOR YOU.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A YOU GUYS SHOULD GO TO ONE BY NOW IN A FEW MONTHS, UM, DECEMBER 2ND, DECEMBER 2ND, DECEMBER 2ND, AS FAR AS AGENDA ITEMS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS FOR THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, BUT PARKLAND IN, IN TOWN, WHETHER THERE OUGHT TO BE ADDITIONAL ONES IN IDEAL SITES.

I THINK THAT MAYBE STARTING THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSIONS GET IN FULL COURSE, BUT ALSO,

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UM, AS A SUBSET OF THAT CATEGORY, DOG PARKS, I HEAR FROM THE CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THAT, BUT ON, ON MY SIDE OF TOWN.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, UM, SOMEBODY NOTED THAT, UM, ON SOME OF THE COUNTY PARKLAND, THERE ARE FLAGS FLYING AT NIGHT WITHOUT LIGHTS ON AMERICAN FLAGS.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID BRING UP, UM, THE DOG PARKS.

AND SO THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THE STREET, MR. X, I THINK YOU JUST BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THOUGH.

I DIDN'T THINK I BEFORE, OR IS THAT WE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY, AFTER THAT MEETING WAS OVER WITH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA OF WHOEVER'S TAKING MINUTES WOULD HAVE LIKE SENT IT OUT TO BOTH BOARDS BECAUSE HERE WE ARE GETTING READY TO PUT STUFF ON THE AGENDA.

AND THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY BROUGHT UP AND IT MAY BE, WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE.

I JUST THOUGHT OF THAT.

I'M SITTING HERE THINKING I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE TO TAKING THEM WELL, THAT WAS UP THERE.

REMEMBER IT CAME UP, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT LAST WEEK.

SO I'LL GET THAT OUT.

HOPEFULLY TOMORROW THAT'S ONE THING, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BEST PLACE TO BRING THIS UP, BUT I'M JUST ASKING.

AND I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP TO SOMEBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL BEFORE, AND THEY, THEY, THEY WERE AWARE OF THIS IN THE PAST.

SO SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED TO ME THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE TOWN, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S IN THE TOWN.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE, UM, FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES ARE PART OF THE COUNTY'S BUDGET, THEY HAD MENTIONED, UM, THAT ABOUT THEIR ELECTRICITY BILL.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS ANY, LIKE, IF THE TOWN WOULD BASICALLY NOT WAIVE IT, BUT SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES OR WHATEVER, WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT UP TO ME, I SAID, WELL, THAT'S REALLY A COUNTY THING THAT, BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THEIR BUDGET.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE IDEA SHOULD JUST BE THAT WE ASKED THEM, LIKE, WHAT DOES THE ELECTRICITY RUN FOR THEM? AND, AND CAUSE MY THOUGHT WOULD BE, IS I WOULD IMAGINE THAT EACH FIRE HOUSE WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, US WAIVING THAT FOR THIS ONE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT THEM ALL.

AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD WAIVE IT.

I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE SCOTT SAID ASSISTANT BROUGHT IT UP TO ME AND THEY SAID, WHY COULDN'T THE TOWN JUST LEVAR ELECTRIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK IN MY HEAD, WELL WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED DOING THAT FOR ONE.

DO WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR ALL? AND ANYTHING BEFORE COUNCIL IN 20, 20, 19? I THINK WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, THEY CAME AND ASKED US TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEIR ELECTRIC BILL IS PRETTY, PRETTY UP THERE.

IT IS.

IT IS INDEED UP THERE.

THE, UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES GET, UM, WE DON'T CHARGE THEM WATER AND THAT GOES BACK TO AN AGREEMENT FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S ONLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE.

JUST THE ONE IN TOWN.

YEAH.

WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

YEAH, THEY DIDN'T COME UP TWO YEARS AGO, SO MAYBE IT JUST, MAYBE IT'S JUST, THEY JUST NEED TO BE AWARE THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.

SO, UM, I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO ADD ON YOUR DEREK BROUGHT IT UP.

UM, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IT BRINGS IN FREDERICK COUNTY WERE TO SELL WATER WARREN COUNTY? UM, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT WOULD IT HAVE ON OUR TOWN? CITIZENS? MONETARY WISE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, NEXT, UH, REVIEW DRAFT FYI 22, 27 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

YEAH.

SO THIS IS A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

UM, JUST FOR REVIEW ANY, ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK, THE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING THIS OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEM TO REVIEW AND THEN GIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IN JANUARY THE PLAN, UH, BEFORE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET, SOME OF THE ITEMS ON HERE, OR IT'S A COMPILATION OF, UH, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP FROM THE STAFF AND ALSO PREVIOUS COUNCILS, UH, IS, IS EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT.

UM, AND THIS IS IT'S, IT IS A DRAFT.

UH,

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THIS OBVIOUSLY HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY APPROVED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK INTO THE PROCESS AND GET THAT INTO THE, UH, WENT TO THE CALENDAR.

UM, I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ON HERE.

UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO MAYOR COUNSELOR.

THIS IS ONE OF MY GOALS IS THAT WE AT LEAST TRY TO GET INFORMATION TO YOU PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING.

AND, AND WE WILL HAVE A PROCESS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT, UH, STAFF WILL BE THERE TO EVEN GO INTO MORE DEEPER CONVERSATIONS ON EACH OF THE PROJECTS.

UH, BUT THIS JUST GIVES YOU A QUICK, UM, VIEW OF, OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE IS AT LEAST SHE WILL AT LEAST HAVE THE LIST BOOK TO READ, START HAVING QUESTIONS.

SO YOU WON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION GETS IT FIRST, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED BY STATE CODE TO ALSO REVIEW THIS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCILS.

SO I JUST KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THIS.

HE HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

SO, UM, WHAT ARE THEY CANOPY STREET LIGHTS FOR A MAIN STREET.

I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THESE NEW LIGHTS ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE VISIBILITY BECAUSE WE DETERMINED THAT THOSE DECORATIVE MONTH, I DON'T REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

IT WAS THE INITIATIVE WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, TO HAVE THE, UH, THE STRANDS GO ACROSS MAIN STREET FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING.

UM, AND SOME OF THEM WERE PUT UP IN, UH, I CAN, I CAN'T.

SO DAVID JENKINS, THE DIRECTOR OF THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT, INSTEAD OF HAVING CANOPY LIGHTS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO BUILDINGS, HE HAD THIS IDEA TO INSTALL NEW STREET LIGHTS, ALL ALONG MAIN STREET THAT ARE A LITTLE, THEY HAVE SOMETHING, A LITTLE TALLER WHERE THE CANOPY LIGHTS WOULD ACTUALLY BE CONNECTED TO THE STREET LIGHTS THEMSELVES.

SO THERE'D BE A LOT OF UNIFORMITY AND, UM, IT WOULD BE ALL ALONG THE ENTIRE STREET INSTEAD OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

IT'S JUST, WE HAVE TO GET THE BUILDING OWNERS BUY IN TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE CANOPY LIGHTS.

SO IT WOULD GO AT THE ENTIRE WAY DOWN THE STREET.

NO VISIBILITY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, IT'D BE, IT'D BE A BIG PROJECT.

UM, IT'D BE A BIG PROJECT.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO BEFORE EVERYBODY GOT IN HERE, I'D ASKED THIS QUESTION ABOUT PROSPECT STREET BRIDGE.

UM, CAUSE I WAS JUST A LITTLE SURPRISED, THERE WAS NO MENTION TO THAT ANYWHERE WHEN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, AND SO BJ'S MENTIONED THAT HE THOUGHT THAT, YEAH, WE SET UP MONEY ASIDE FOR PROSPECT STREET BRIDGE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND UM, THE, THE MONEY WAS USED FOR STEM WALL DIRE NEED.

UM, AND I CANNOT REMEMBER HOW WE ADDRESS THAT.

I HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW, BUT YOU'RE CERTAINLY CORRECT.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUT BACK ON THERE.

UM, SO YEAH.

HOW DID YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A PRO SOMEWHERE IN ONE OF THESE PRIORITIES? IS IT PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THINGS TO THIS THAT THEY THINK ARE PRIORITIES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL COME BEFORE? WHAT IS IT? WEDNESDAY NIGHTS WORK SESSION AND ROBBIE AND, UM, DAVID WILL BE ATTENDING.

OKAY.

THANKS BJ.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT, UH, DRINKS AND UPDATES.

UM, DECEMBER THE 14TH AND 15TH, WE HAD SCHEDULED A RETREAT SINCE IT'S HOLIDAY MONTH AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH OUR WORK SESSION AND OUR REGULAR MEETING ALL IN ONE.

WOULD YOU ALL BE RA JUST TO HAVE A RETREAT ON THOSE 14 OR 15? AND IS THAT TWO DAYS JUST DO A ONE DAY IT'S ONE DAY GOING TO BE ENOUGH, SORRY, TREES TEAM-BUILDING OR, UM, TOPICS.

YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GOING MORE OF A BUDGET GUIDELINES.

REALLY? WHAT GOALS YOU ALL WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THREE YEARS? KIND OF OVERVIEW AGAIN, THE COMP PLAN JUST DROVE DOWN KITCHEN CONVERSATIONS.

WE WON'T BE, IT WON'T BE SO COULD WE DO LIKE THE 14TH AND THEN MAKE THE 15TH 10 TO LIKE, IF WE DON'T COVER EVERYTHING WE WANT TO GET FOUND IN OUR WHEAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY GO INTO THE 15TH.

ALSO.

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WE WANT TO TRY TO IDENTIFY, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WHAT THE JOINT RETREAT WITH.

YEAH.

I ORIGINALLY HAD 14, 15TH AND 16TH CALENDAR WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT.

IT WAS THREE DAYS ON THERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE ORIGINALLY, SO I JUST DELETED THE 16TH.

I'M LIKE POINTLESS MEETING.

UM, JUST CAUSE IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO, UM, SO I'M SORRY.

SO THE, SO WHAT ARE WE DOING SAID 13TH IS ARMY.

THE 13TH IS A REGULAR SCHEDULE, MEANING 14 OR 15 WILL BE OVER-TREATED AND THE 14TH IS A DEFINITE IN THE 15TH.

UH, IF NECESSARY WE'LL HAVE TO, I THINK WE NEED TO CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESERVE AN ORDER.

YES.

AND WHAT DID THE TIME FOR THAT AGAIN, THAT 30 IS WHAT WE HAD TODAY.

UH, 30, 30, 30, IF WE'RE LUCKY.

WE'RE DEFINITELY STILL DOING BOTH DAYS, 14TH AND 15TH BECAUSE I JUST NEED TO FINALIZE THE UH, BEFORE H UM, RETREAT GATHERED AND GOING BACK TO THE DISCUSSION IS RIGHT NOW ON THE SIXTH, WE ONLY HAVE ONE AGENDA ITEM.

UM, BUT SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AMONG STAFF.

IF, IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER JUST COMBINING AGAIN TO HAVE THE WORK SESSION, UH, PRIOR TO THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON THE 13TH, UH, THAT WAY WE WON'T HAVE TO MEET OVER SIX.

SO WOULD PUT IN A MEETING THAT COULD, COULD, UM, EVERYONE MEET AT SIX 30 BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE THERE'LL BE JUST 30 MINUTES.

OF COURSE.

PART OF THE WORK SESSION.

NO, IT'S THE 13TH.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WAS THAT LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ONE BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THAT'D BE 13.

WE'RE TAKING WELL, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.

DO WE WANT TO HAVE BACK TO BACK RETREATS? THIS IS WHAT SHOULD WE MAKE THE MEAT ON THE SIXTH NEXT WEEK? OKAY.

I LIKE YOU'RE THINKING NOVEL AND SHE HAS TO EIGHT OUT LOUD.

UM, I WAS SAYING, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN BECAUSE WE WERE ALREADY ADVERTISED THESE THINGS FOR US, THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO OUR MEETING.

I'D ALMOST RATHER DO THE MEETING AND WORK SESSION TOGETHER ON THE SIXTH.

SO THAT THE WEEK OF THE 13TH, WE'RE NOT THREE NIGHTS IN A ROW.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I LOOKED AT THAT Y'ALL APPROVED ALREADY THE REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING ORGANIZATIONAL, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT.

WE CAN CANCEL MEETING.

WE JUST CAN'T CHANGE IT BACK.

JUST GET IT ALL BACK TO BACK.

AND THEN YOU CAN CANCEL, YOU CAN SHOVEL WORK SESSION, REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS.

THERE'S EXTRA STEPS.

THAT'S YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING THAT YOU HOLD UP YOUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 22ND, 22ND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, STEVEN.

SO, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTION, UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, JANUARY 3RD IS WHEN WE GO LIVE, WE SEND A TRANSITION LETTER TO, UH, WARREN COUNTY, TO DR.

DALEY TO NOTIFY THEM FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

UH, AT THE DECEMBER 13TH MEETING, YOU ALL WILL APPOINT ME AS THE BUILDING CODE OFFICIAL, UH, FOR 18 MONTHS.

AND THEN, UM, WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM WE, WE MET AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH DEQ, THE WATER BOARD TO APPROVE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTION ENS PROGRAM.

THE STATE HAS TO APPROVE THAT AND OUR CONSULTANTS ARE ON BOARD ECS, CTI AND ARCHAIC.

KAY, UH, ALSO, UH, LAUREN AND CHRIS BROCK.

THEY WENT TO LOOK AT OTHER TOP OF BUILDING INSPECTION SOFTWARE AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.

SO EVERYTHING'S IN MOTION AND WE DON'T SEE ANY HICCUP OTHER THAN POTENTIALLY, WHICH WE PREDICT IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CRITICAL PIECE AT THIS POINT AS IN, UM, WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS AND STUFF.

SO EVERYTHING'S MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE BEFORE

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WE START EVERYTHING ELSE.

CAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY TO GET A LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT.

UM, IT CALLS AT SCHOOL NOW I'D RATHER LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE ONE STOP SHOP.

I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT WITH THE WATER BOARD, UH, AND THE STATE AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS, WE'VE MET THAT SOMETHING THAT MAY BE PHASED, UH, LIKE THE SECOND PART OF JANUARY, THERE'S IT HAPPENS TO YOU.

AND I DON'T WANT US TO KNOW IT WON'T BE, IT WON'T BE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO BE HAVING IS WE GOT A NEW GOVERNOR COMING IN AND WHEN NEW GOVERNORS COME IN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS SHUFFLE THAT THINGS MAY BE SLOW FOR THE FIRST.

AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK FOLKS ARE, WELL, I WILL SAY THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT THE STATE AGENCIES, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A TRANSITION PLAN TO GET NOTIFIED ON STUFF.

CAUSE IT'S WATERBOARD, THEY'RE APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR.

UM, THE PERSON THAT I'VE HIRED ON AS THE PLANNER, WHO'S GOOD.

WE STARTED MONDAY.

HE HAS THE DEQ CERTIFICATIONS ALREADY.

SO HE'S UM, HE IS A CERTIFIED INSPECTOR ED ADMINISTRATOR FOR STORM WATER.

UM, THE, UH, THE LAND DISTURBING END OF IT.

AND HE'S ALSO A CERTIFIED FLOODPLAIN MANAGER FOR FEMA.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT CAPACITY IN HOUSE AS SOON AS WE HAVE THIS WATER BOARD MEETING.

WHERE COULD YOU GO? ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

YOU GOT ANY MORE GOOD NEWS? OH, I FORGOT DEPARTMENT TECH.

WE WILL BE READY TO GO.

UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION.

UM, THE TOWN'S PARTNERING WITH, UH, WITH, UM, ARTISTS IN THE COMMUNITY, MELISSA ITCHY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HER AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE THE MURALS AND STUFF.

UH, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A CONSTRUCTION BARRIER OR SOME BARRIER THAT BLEND OR CREATE A BUFFER WITH THE AFTERNOON.

IT'S GOING TO BE ON NORTH ROYAL AVENUE AND ALSO MAIN STREET.

AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS TO WAIVE THE APPLICATION FEE.

IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND I JUST WANT TO GET CONSENSUS.

THIS IS A TOWN, UH, COOPERATION SLASH PROJECT, UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM TO CREATE MORE ARTWORK.

SO WE'RE ASKING A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S A PROCESS I HAVE THAT'S MY SUPPORTIVE STATEMENT IS IF IT'S GONNA IMPROVE THINGS FOR US, WHY WOULD WE POSSIBLY SAY NO? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH INFORMATION ON THAT THAT YOU COULD PASS TO US.

JUST SO AWARE OF IT.

YES, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

CAUSE WE DISCUSS IT.

WE'RE PROCESSING THE COMBINATION PROCESS.

MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER THEN IS, UH, THEY SAID THEY RECEIVED THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.

THEY DID INSTALL A ROLL OFF, BUT SINCE THEN, UH, WE'VE NOT HAD ANY FINALIZED PLANS ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS AND UM, WE'LL DO ANY TYPE OF, UH, OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED OR ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND EVEN ACCELERATED, BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD FOR COUNSEL OR GUIDANCE.

GREAT.

THEY GOT A ROLL OFF THERE, BUT NOTHING'S HAPPENED.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

SO UP NEXT, UH, MEDICAL FREEDOM FOR EMPLOYEES.

SO I GUESS YOU ALL DO WELL.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN WE HAD THE AGENDA REVIEW, THE MAYOR ASKED THAT WE LIST I'M JUST LOST.

YOU BROUGHT UP THE TUESDAY.

I KEPT FLIPPING COOL.

HERE'S THAT SCREEN? THE MAYOR IS SO AS Y'ALL DO WE PASS THE RESOLUTION, UM, BACK IN JULY, UM, SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ACQUIRE OUR ACCOUNTABLE WEEDS TO BE VACCINATED.

AND AS YOU KNOW, ON THE SUPREME COURT, I THINK HALTED IT FOR NOW, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO SO.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO, UM, ENFORCE THAT WE'D HAVE TO RESEND THE RESOLUTION AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIGN IT.

AND IT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY ME AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIGN IT.

SO, UM, I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF TELLING BUSINESSES WHAT TO DO, WHETHER THEY

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FORCED THE VACCINE OR NOT.

AND, UM, I'M NOT FOR FORCING OUR COUNT OF BOYS TO BE VACCINATED.

SO WE ALL CAME TO AN AGREEMENT.

RESOLUTION WAS SIGNED BY ME AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIGN TO HAVE RESCINDED.

SO JUST LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT IF THE FBI COMES TO MY HOUSE WITH Y'ALL COME GET ME, I'M NOT GOING TO SIGN AND HAVE RESENTED.

AND I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL PAUSED RIGHT NOW.

SO I, I SAY I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ADDRESS IT IF WE HAVE WELL, AND I WILL OPEN IT, OTHER LOCALITIES WILL FEEL THE SAME WAY.

SO, BUT THEN, THEN AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT SAME RESOLUTION.

AND PETER WOULD BE THAT WE DON'T, MY FEAR WOULD BE, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPENINGS ALREADY IN THE TOWN AND WE FORCED THIS ON OUR EMPLOYEES A LOT MORE.

YEAH.

AND, UM, AND THEN HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AND THE WATERFRONT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THE STATES THAT HAVE PASSED THINGS BLOCKING THAT.

SO CONSIDERING WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN THE ELECTION AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

YEAH.

AND PLUS, I MEAN, EITHER, YOU KNOW, THEY'D HAVE TO BE VACCINATED OR BE TESTED ONCE A WEEK AND THAT WOULD COST THE TOWN ROUGHLY ABOUT 60,000 A YEAR.

AND WHO WANTS TO BE TESTED EVERY WEEK, HAVE THAT YOUR SINUS, A SWAB, WHICH FEELS LIKE THEY GO BACK TO YOUR BRAIN.

BUT, UM, WELL MAYOR, I DON'T EITHER, WELL, COUNCIL CAN ABSORB THAT COST, BUT RIGHT NOW THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THEY'RE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE TOWN EMPLOYEES.

OKAY.

WELL, SO ANYWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS TOO WITH THAT, LIKE EVEN JUST THE EXPENSE, BUT LIKE WHEN WOULD YOU TEST? AND THEN WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WOULD IT EVEN BE FAIR TO ASK THE EMPLOYEES TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN TIME? IF THEY'RE DOING IT ON COMPANY TIME, THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO AGAIN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP EVERYTHING GOING IF THERE'S GONNA, LUCKILY WE'RE NOT GOING TO EVER HAVE TO FACE THAT.

NOW I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DEVASTATING.

IF THIS WERE TO BE ROLLED OUT WITH OUR, AGAIN, 80% OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES.

AND WITH MY KNOWLEDGE OF EMPLOYEES, UM, A LOT OF WOMEN PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN VACCINATED.

AND THEN WITH IT, COUNCIL SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

WE DON'T KNOW THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO, UH, GIVE ME SOME STRONG GUIDANCE BECAUSE IT WILL IMPACT OUR OPERATION.

UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF LINE OF WORK WE DO FOR THE CITIZENS IS PRODUCTION, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE FACTORY WORK, YOU GOT TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES SET UP A WORK ZONE TO GO A BUCKET TRUCK TO DO ANY UTILITY WORK AND SAFETY.

SO ALL IT TAKES IS ONE OR TWO, NOT BEING THERE DURING THAT OPERATION.

YOU, YOU GOTTA STOP THAT OPERATION.

SO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, COUNCILMAN COCKEREL, UM, THIS, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENED.

WE MAY HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT IT WITH CONTRACTS TO WORKLOAD OR TEMP AGENCIES.

SO JUST LET EVERYONE KNOW, WE'LL BE BRINGING IN A PROPOSAL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THE PAYMENT OF THE TEST WOULD BE JUST A MINUTE, A PIECE OF THE IMPACT.

YES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT EXTRA INFORMATION JUST BECAUSE OF, UM, W WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE WISE TO HAVE DOUG GO AHEAD AND, AND THEN STARTED, UH, PROCEEDINGS FOR LAWSUIT ON THIS AS WELL? UM, SO, CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT YEAH.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW ADAMANT I AM ABOUT MAKING OUR JOB.

UM, EVEN THE TESTING PART OF IT.

IF THEY'RE NOT HAVING SYMPTOMS, IT JUST, IT MAKES NO SENSE.

YEAH.

THANKS PERIOD.

WAIT UNTIL, SEE WHAT THE MAN, WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE SUPREME COURT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY, ANYTHING ELSE I AIN'T GOING TO TOUCH? I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF WHETHER ANYBODY, UH, ANY ANYBODY'S, UH, LIKE HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY FEEL ABOUT EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF CHICKENS UM,

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YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE STATE CODE.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT.

AND THEN THE INSPECTION PIECE, ONCE WE DO IT, HOW OFTEN IS YOU INCREASE IT? SO WE'RE PULLING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IT HERE SOON IN JANUARY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE CHICKEN CHICKENS NEXT? I GUESS IT'S CLOSED ME OUT THE FOURTH BATHROOM.

THE BATHROOM COME BACK.

OH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

NO PROBLEM.

I HEARD IT.

I WAS LIKE, AND THEN I FOUND OUT I HAD THIS THAT ONE, I LET YOU YET THAT NOVEL, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN FOR THAT.

I LOOKED AT THE VITAL SIGNS.

I GOT TIRED.

I HAVE A HUGE LIBRARY NOW.

HAVE WE NOT LEARNED YOU GOT TO READ THE WEEKEND.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL CONVENER HERE WITH THE CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 87.

ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AS FOLLOWS ONE WITH RESPECT TO A JOINT ENDEAVOR WITH ORGANIZATIONS LOCATED IN THE TOWN TO CONSIDER PROVISION OF HEALTHCARE SERVICES, ANY DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS, THEIR COMPETITION OR BARGAINING HAS EVOLVED WHERE IT'S MADE PUBLIC FINANCIAL INTEREST IN GOVERNMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBSECTION A DOT SIX AND T THE DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD, A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND INTERVIEWS OF BUTTERS OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT, WHERE THE SESSION OF THE MEETING WITH A PERSON OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY AS A PUBLIC BODY PURSUANT TO COMPENSATION BY STAFF MEMBERS, ACTUAL LITIGATION PRODUCTS WERE SUBSTANCE CONSULTATION OR BRIEFING MEETING COULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THEM.

NEGOTIATING COUNSEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBSECTION EIGHT.SEVEN, THREE, WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ENTERPRISE OUTSIDE LOCATED THE TOWN'S CORPORATE LIMITS, WHICH THE TOWN HAS BEEN OUR MATERIAL.

THESE TWO IN THE FUTURE, A DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS, WHERE COMPETITION OF BARGAINING IS EVOLVED, WHERE IT MADE PUBLIC INITIALLY

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THE FINANCIAL INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENT AND B UNDER THE SESSION OF THE AWARD AND PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OF THE SCOPE OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT, WHERE DISCUSSION AND AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY IN FRONT OF COUNSEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBSECTION 8 29 FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING SPECIFIC MEDICAL LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNCIL CONCERNING AN EXISTING AGREEMENT.

THE TOWN IS ALREADY A PARTY TO WHICH HAS BECOME PROBLEMATIC IN THE TOWN, WHICH HAS TWO OPTIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH A DOT EIGHT FIVE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION OR INTERVIEWS OF, OR OF PROSPECT CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT, ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION THAT SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER'S.

THE APPOINTEES ARE EMPLOYEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY, INCLUDING THE FRONT ROW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE FRONT ROYAL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBSECTION A DOC ONE.

UM, I'LL READ IT.

SAY I JUST GET A ONE PARAGRAPH.

EXCELLENT READING SKILLS THAT I GOT IT.

ALRIGHT.

VICE MAYOR COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS.

YES.

HUSBAND THOMPSON.

I THINK THAT COUNCIL CERTIFIED BADLY TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE AS RECOGNIZED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE THAT ONLY SIX PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED IT.

AND THEN THEY, MOST OF THEM, I WENT TO THE CLOSED MEETING WITH CONVENE WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED.

YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE PLACE BEING IN BLACKTOWN COUNCIL AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL ON A RECORDER, THEN CLEANING THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING AND TOWN COUNCIL.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES I WAS.

YES.

ALRIGHTY.