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GOOD EVENING.

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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MONDAY, OCTOBER 25TH, 2021.

[1. MOMENT OF SILENCE]

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN US IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE

[2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN, ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

THAT'S PERFECT.

WHATEVER

[3. ROLL CALL]

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MAYOR HOLLOWAY HERE.

VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL HERE.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE'S ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LLOYD HERE.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN, COUNCILMAN THOMPSON HERE.

THANK YOU.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – I move that Council approve the Work Session Minutes of September 13th, Regular Meeting Minutes of September 27th, Audit/Finance Committee Meeting Minutes and Work Session Minutes of October 12th and Special Meeting Minutes of October 13th, 2021, as presented.]

NEXT APPROVAL OF REGULAR MINUTES.

I HEAR A MOTION.

YES.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE WORK SESSION MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 13TH, THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.

SO SEPTEMBER 27TH AUDIT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES AND WORK SESSION MINUTES OF OCTOBER 12TH AND SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 13TH, 2021 AS PRESENTED.

DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A ROLL CALL.

NICE MAYOR.

COCKREL COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE'S ABSENT COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCIL MCFADDEN.

YES.

TOWNSMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

THANK YOU.

NEXT.

DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? OKAY.

NEXT

[6. RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/REPORTS– - Report- Brandon Davis, Executive Director of the Northern Shenandoah Valley Regional Commission]

UP RECOGNITIONS AWARDS REPORTS REPORT BRANDON DAVIS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA, NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY, REGIONAL COMMISSION.

MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN THIS EVENING, AS YOU KNOW, I SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT QUARTERLY.

CHOOSE TO USUALLY BRIEF YOU ON ONE ISSUE THAT OUR ORGANIZATION IS WORKING ON AT THE TIME, RATHER THAN TRY TO BRIEF YOU ON IT, ON THE, THE BREADTH OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I FIND THAT IT WORKS A LITTLE BETTER THAT WAY.

UM, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY, REGIONAL COMMISSION.

WE WERE CREATED BY YOU AND THE OTHER MEMBER JURISDICTIONS IN OUR REGION TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO TOGETHER OR THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO CHEAPER TOGETHER, OR WE CAN MEET MANDATES THAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE TO BE MET INDIVIDUALLY.

THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO MEET THOSE MANDATES AS ONE.

UM, WE HAVE EVOLVED OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS AND GROWN TO OUR LARGEST STAFF CAPACITY EVER AT 11.

SO THAT TELLS YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIZE OF OUR ORGANIZATION, BUT WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SERVED ON OUR BOARD COMMISSIONERS OVER THE YEARS, OR BEEN ENGAGED WITH OUR ORGANIZATION, KNOW THAT.

SO THIS IS MOSTLY FOR THOSE AT HOME.

I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW ME, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THOSE FEW FACTS ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION.

BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE TOPIC THAT I WANTED TO COVER THIS EVENING.

LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I BRIEFLY MENTIONED TO YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT A RAIL TRAIL THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

YOU HAD A REALLY PACKED AGENDA THAT NIGHT.

SO OUT OF RESPECT, I KEPT IT VERY SHORT.

UM, I'LL TAKE A FEW MORE MINUTES TONIGHT IF THAT'S OKAY.

LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM.

I THINK YOU HAVE A LITTLE LIGHTER AGENDA.

I STILL WON'T GO VERY LONG THOUGH.

WE'VE HAD SOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR EFFORT TO CONVERT A 48 AND A HALF MILE.

MULTI-USE, UH, 48 AND A HALF MILE INACTIVE RAIL LINE BETWEEN FRONT ROYAL AND THE TOWN OF BROADWAY IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY INTO A MULTI-USE TRAIL.

UM, IT'S BEEN SITTING IN ACTIVE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, MORE THAN A DECADE IN SOME AREAS OF SHENANDOAH COUNTY.

AND MORE RECENTLY AFTER OUR EFFORT BEGAN, UH, THE PORTION BETWEEN FRONT ROYAL AND STRAUSBERG BECAME INACTIVE AS WELL.

NORFOLK SOUTHERN HAS PARALLEL LINES.

ONE OF WHICH IS THIS MANASSEH GAP LINE THAT THEY ACTUALLY VIEW AS A SPUR BECAUSE IT IS A JUNCTION WITH CSX.

AND AGAIN, DOWN AT THE, DOWN AT THE SOUTHERN END, THERE'S ANOTHER JUNCTION.

AND ANOTHER, THE PARALLEL LINE IS IN THE PAIGE VALLEY THAT PAIGE VALLEY ROUTE IS MORE DIRECT TOWARD THE MARKETS.

IT HAS FEWER TRESTLES AND IT HAS A LARGER CAPACITY.

THEY'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN THAT PARALLEL LINE, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES.

AND AS THE BUSINESSES THAT USED THIS SPUR WENT OFFLINE, THEY DEACTIVATED THIS RAIL LINE.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY PLACES WHERE IT'S BEEN PAVED OVER IN SHENANDOAH COUNTY AND THAT'S BEEN WHEN I WAS THERE 10 YEARS AGO.

SO, UH, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THIS LINE IS NOT GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK INTO USE AS AN ACTIVE RAIL LINE IN THOSE AT LEAST IN THOSE AREAS, IF THERE WERE ANY

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PLACE WHERE IT COULD BE, IT WOULD BE THIS AREA, I WOULD THINK BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST RECENTLY INACTIVATED LINE.

HOWEVER, AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU SEE THE CONDITION OF THAT RAIL LINE DETERIORATE VERY QUICKLY AND GO FROM AN ASSET TO AN EYESORE.

THERE ARE TREES GROWING UP THROUGH THE RAIL LINE AND DOWNTOWNS OF STROUDSBURG AND WOODSTOCK AND THOSE AREAS WHERE IT'S BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF A SOLUTION, UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT.

BUT WE DO EXPECT THIS TO CONTINUE TO BE A LONG TERM PROJECT.

10 YEARS WOULD BE A WIN IN MY BOOK.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, SEVERAL ITERATIONS OVER THE YEARS, BUT MO THIS MOST RECENT EFFORT HAS BEEN GOING ON PRETTY STRONGLY FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS NOW.

SO WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME BREAKS IN OUR EFFORT, UM, OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS OR SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD.

SO IT'S BEEN NICE TO HAVE THAT POSITIVE ENERGY.

AND WE ARE ACTUALLY IN CONVERSATIONS WITH NORFOLK SOUTHERN AT THIS POINT.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, CONTRACTED WITH A FIRM TO PERFORM AN APPRAISAL, TO GET A STARTING POINT FOR NEGOTIATIONS.

UH, WE'VE CONTINUED TO REACH OUT TO OUR ELECTED LEADERSHIP AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

WE'VE RECEIVED VERBAL SUPPORT FROM NEARLY EVERYONE THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO ON THIS.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS SUPPORTERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

UH, AND WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF, OF THE IDEA OF TAKING THIS RAIL LINE THAT USED TO BE A CATALYST FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE 18 HUNDREDS AND MAKING IT THAT AGAIN.

UH, SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE MOST RECENTLY DID WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT WE CONTRACTED FOR AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT THAT DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS STRETCH OF THE RAIL LINE.

SO AS THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED, WE DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT.

SO WE HAD A PARTNER ACTUALLY, WHO WAS PARTICIPATING WITH US, WHO IS, UH, DR.

ROBERT KLEIN.

HE'S A PUBLIC FINANCE ECONOMIST WHO RECEIVED HIS PHD AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND A BA IN ECONOMICS FROM THE COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY.

AND HE TAUGHT ECONOMICS AT THE GRADUATE AND UNDERGRADUATE LEVELS.

HE WAS A TAX RESEARCH DIRECTOR FOR THE STATES OF MICHIGAN AND MINNESOTA, AND HE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF TAX POLICY ECONOMICS IN THE NATIONAL TAX PRACTICE AT ERNST AND YOUNG.

AND HE DIRECTED, UH, THE FIRM'S NATIONAL ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACT PRACTICE.

SO THIS IS A GUY WHO'S PRETTY WELL QUALIFIED TO DO THIS WORK, AND HE DID IT FOR US PRO BONO.

UH, WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WE COULD FIND A BETTER FIT TO, TO DO THIS WORK, SOMEBODY WITH THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING OF BOTH THE PUBLIC FINANCE SIDE, AS WELL AS IMPACT MODELING IN HIS CAREER.

SO THIS DOCUMENT WAS JUST POSTED TO OUR WEBSITE TO TODAY AND THE SHANANDOAH RAIL TRAIL.ORG.

UM, IT'S HOT OFF THE PRESSES.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF BRIEF HIGHLIGHTS AND I'LL REFER YOU TO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF AT THE, AT THE WEBSITE TO TALK TO LOOK AT THE PROCESSES THAT WERE USED IN SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE IN ORDER TO GET TO THESE CONCLUSIONS.

SO THIS STUDY ESTIMATES, THE ADDITIONAL SPENDING, THE JOBS, INCOME, AND TAXES THAT THE THREE COUNTY REGION CAN EXPECT FROM THE NEW TOURIST SPENDING IN THE REGION GENERATED PRIMARILY BY NON-RESIDENTS, WHO COME TO USE THE TRAIL.

IT'S, UH, THE NEW ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, UH, WOULD NOT OCCUR IN THE ABSENCE OF THIS TRAIL.

THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT IT WOULD REMAIN INACTIVE.

SO THE DETAILED ECONOMIC MODEL FOR THE THREE COUNTY REGION, UH, ESTIMATES THAT THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT REGIONAL IMPACTS BECAUSE OF THE TRAIL, THE NEW ANNUAL SPENDING IN THE REGION DUE TO VISITORS TO THE SHADOW RAIL TRAIL IS PROJECTED TO BE 32 POINT MILLION PER YEAR IN 20 $30.

ASSUMING IT COMES ONLINE IN 2030 WHEN THE TRAIL IS FULLY OPENED, UH, THIS IS A MEASURE OF THE INCREASED SALES OF RETAILERS, RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, MOTELS, AND OTHER BUSINESSES LOCATED WITHIN THE REGION.

THE NEW REGIONAL SPENDING IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE 319 NEW JOBS.

IN 2030, THE LARGEST NUMBER OF JOBS WOULD BE IN TOURIST RELATED BUSINESSES, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, INCLUDING RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, MOTELS, AND RETAIL STORES, THE EXPANDED ECONOMY WILL GENERATE SUBSTANTIAL NEW INCOME FOR BUSINESSES, EMPLOYEES, THE SELF-EMPLOYED AND UNINCORPORATED BUSINESSES.

THIS ADDITIONAL ANNUAL LABOR INCOME IS ESTIMATED TO BE 10 MILLION IN 2030.

THE EXPANDED ECONOMY OF THE REGION WILL GENERATE HIGHER TAX REVENUES EACH YEAR FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

1.7 MILLION FOR COUNTIES, 200,000 A YEAR FOR TOWNS AND 600,000 A YEAR FOR THE STATE.

ACCORDING TO THE MODEL, IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE ONGOING ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACTS, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRAIL IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE A CUMULATIVE

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TOTAL OF 18.7 MILLION IN SPENDING AND 104 JOBS.

DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD ALONE, THIS WOULD BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT THAT WOULD ONLY CONTINUE TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES OVER TIME.

AND IT WOULD BE A DESTINATION FACILITY, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S USED BY LOCALS, BUT ALSO THOSE WHO VISIT OUR AREA.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WILL VISIT OUR AREA.

AND BECAUSE OF THIS TRAIL, NOT JUST AS AN ADDED BENEFIT FOR ALL THE OTHER GREAT REASONS TO COME HERE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS.

AND LIKE I SAY, THE STUDY ITSELF USE THE IMPLANT IMPLANT MODEL, UM, IN ORDER TO DO A LOT OF THIS, THESE, THESE MODELING EFFORTS AND, UH, DR.

KLEIN DID THAT ON, ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION.

SO I'D LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR THAT PUBLICLY, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY ANSWERS.

WE GET DEEP IN ANY QUESTIONS.

AND IF WE GET, UM, DEEP INTO HOW THESE NUMBERS WERE CREATED, I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH THE DETAILS ON THE IMPLANT MODEL AND SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT DR.

KLEIN USED TO GET THERE.

IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE STUDY ITSELF.

THANK YOU ALL.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

[7. A. FY2022 Budget Amendment and Award for Sanitary Sewer Point Repairs (BJ Wilson)]

NO ONE SIGNED UP.

COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE A F Y 2022 BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,000,050, 2080 $7 AND 98 CENTS AND APPROVE AN AWARD CONTRACT TO SNYDER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, INC.

IN THE SAME AMOUNT FOR URGENT SANITARY, SEWER POINT REPAIRS, CJ CONSULTING, THE TOWNS IN FILTRATION AND INFLOW ABATEMENT, INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR IN TOWN STAFF RECOMMEND THE AWARD IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.

UH, I MOVED THAT COUNCIL APPROVEN FYI, 20 AND 22 BUDGET AMENDMENT, AND THE AMOUNT OF $2,052,087 AND 98 CENTS AND APPROVING AWARD CONTRACT TO SNYDER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES IN THE SAME AMOUNT OR URGENT SANITARY SEWER POINT REPAIRS.

CAN I HAVE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION BEING NON, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE IS ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

PASSES UP NEXT.

WE HAVE PUBLIC

[7. B. FY2022 Budget Amendment for Outstanding Purchase Orders (BJ Wilson)]

HEARING FOR FYI 2022 BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR OUTSTANDING PURCHASE ORDERS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? NO, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.

CAN WE READ A SUMMARY FOR ME? COUNSEL HAS REQUESTED TO APPROVE A F Y 2022 BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF $11,351,303 AND 86 CENTS TO CARRY FORWARD.

UNPAID BALANCES ON PURCHASE ORDERS NOT COMPLETED AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2021.

AND TO CARRY FUNDS FORWARD TO FISCAL YEAR 2022 AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE A F Y 22 BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF $11,351,303 AND 86 CENTS TO CARRY FORWARD.

UNPAID BALANCES ON PURCHASE ORDERS NOT COMPLETED AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2021, AND TO CARRY FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION I JUST WANTED TO, UM, MAKE SURE I WANT TO, CAUSE I THINK WE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS BEFORE TONIGHT.

UM, THIS, THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET FOR 2021, RIGHT? YES.

AND SO WHAT THIS IS IS MONEY THAT WAS NOT SPENT DURING THAT YEAR, BUT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WE STILL NEED TO PAY.

SO THIS IS NOT NEW MONEY.

THIS WAS ALREADY BUDGETED MONEY.

UM, AND IT'S JUST, HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE BILL FOR IT YET BASICALLY, AND THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THIS WAS NOT NEW, UH, NEW MONEY BEING SPENT.

IT WAS ALREADY FOR ANYONE ELSE.

OKAY.

LET'S PRESS, WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE'S ABSENT.

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COUNCILMAN LLOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT WE'RE HEARING PASSES

[8. PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS]

UP NEXT.

PUBLIC COMMENTS, NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IS THERE A BIKE HERE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? WE HAVE ONE SIGNED UP.

CRAIG ANDERSON.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TRY TO KEEP IT THREE MINUTES IN LESS.

OKAY.

CRAIG, CRAIG ANDERSON ONE 10 SUNSET LANE AND LINDEN.

I CAME DOWN HERE LAST MEETING AND I DARED CRITICIZED BLM AS A DIVIDE AND CONQUER GROUP AND CALLED FOR US TO PUT UP AN ALL LIVES MATTER, SIGN SOMETHING TO PUSH BACK.

I'M GRABBING FOR STRAWS FOR SOMETHING TO PUSH BACK FROM THAT IDEOLOGY.

UH, I WAS TOLD I NEEDED TO BE FACT CHECKED, UH, DOWN HERE LAST TIME.

SO I BROUGHT A NEW YORK POST ARTICLE THAT SAYS THAT THE LEADER OF BLM, UH, SAYS, UH, QUOTE, WE ARE TRAINED MARXISTS.

WE ARE SUPER VERSED ON BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND SO SHE SAID WE ARE TRAINED MARXIST.

UM, I FAILED MORE PEOPLE I TALKED TO.

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT A MARXIST IS.

IF YOU ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT A MARXIST IS, WE'RE DOOMED, BUT I GOT TO TRY.

SHE SAYS WE'RE TRAINED MARXIST.

THEY DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

OKAY.

NOW RUN INTO THIS A FOOTBALL PLAYER.

UH, THAT'S GOT A BIG FOLLOWING MARK MARCELLUS WILEY.

UM, HE, UH, WAS ACCUSED OF MISREPRESENTING, UH, WHAT SHE HAD SAID AND IT COME TO FIND OUT IT HAD BEEN SCRUBBED.

THE THING THAT REALLY GETS ME, SHE WANTS THE QUOTE TO, WE DISRUPT WESTERN PRESCRIBED NUCLEAR FAMILY STRUCTURE.

WOW.

WE DON'T NEED THAT.

THAT'S GET DAD OUT OF THE HOUSE, MAN.

THAT GETS ME GOING.

SO, UM, UM, IF YOU BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT, I LEARNED A LOT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT, UH, PSYCHOLOGY, UH, THEY DREW A LINE OF IT SHOWED HOW THE WITCH HUNT, WHAT MASS PSYCHOSIS, UH, IMAGINE BEING A WHICH, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE, YOU GREW UP WITH THEM, THEY'RE KIND PEOPLE.

AND THEY ARE BURNING YOU WELL TO CONTROL PEOPLE.

YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM IN FEAR.

THE TOTALITARIAN OF THE DAY WAS THE CHURCH HAD PEOPLE IN FEAR AND WE'RE CONTROLLING THEM.

LIKE YOU WERE AFRAID OF GOING TO HELL AND YOU OBEYED THE CHURCH.

AND THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO BURN YOUR NEIGHBOR.

WELL, TODAY I JUST SEE THE SAME PARALLEL WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR GREATEST FEAR IS BEING CALLED A RACIST.

AND WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM COLLEGE KIDS BURNED.

CVS IS DOWN ENRICH WHITE COLLEGE KIDS.

WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM DO THAT? SO, YEAH, IT'S A MASS PSYCHOSIS.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE THE ONLY SANE ONE THERE AND ALL SOCIETY IS CRAZY.

WE GOT TO PUSH BACK ON THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UM, UH, IT DOESN'T DO YOU ANY GOOD TO SAY, HEY, I'M ON TEAM MLK.

I LOOK AT PEOPLE ALL MY LIFE, UH, LIKE, LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN GOLDEN RULE, WHAT'S NOPE.

RACIST.

JUST LIKE THEY SAY, UH, ARE YOU A WITCH? AND YOU SAY, NO, I'M NOT A WITCH.

WELL, THAT PROVES YOUR WITCH.

THAT'S WHAT THAT CRT GUY SAYS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT A RACIST, YOU'RE A RACIST.

SO WOW.

WE GOT TO GET BACK TO MLK.

I'M ALL FOR AND LK SIGNS, WHATEVER.

UM, DON'T THINK I'M ASKING FOR TOO MUCH, UH, THE MAYOR CAN WRITE BLM IN THE STREETS, THE MAYOR DC, RIGHT? BLM ALL IN THE STREETS.

HOW ABOUT WE? RIGHT.

ALL LIVES MATTER IN THE STREETS OR IF THAT'S TOO MUCH, HOW ABOUT WE JUST PUT UP A FLAG OR LET ME PUT UP ALL LIVES.

MATTER OF FLAG OR A BANNER.

AND I'VE BEEN HITTING UP THE COUNTY WITH THIS TOO.

UM, BEFORE I MAY HAVE GOT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, LIKE I ASKED THE COUNTY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ME NOW.

I'LL BE BACK.

BUT DOES ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE IT'S CRAZY WORLD TO ANYBODY HERE HAVE THE COURAGE TO SAY ALL LIVES MATTER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TONIGHT.

BUT I GOT TO ANSWER FROM ONE OF THE COUNCIL FROM, FROM ONE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAID, YEAH, ALL LIVES MATTER.

YOU PUT YOURSELF IN JEOPARDY, THAT'S RACIST.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE COURAGE TO SAY THAT? THINK ABOUT IT AND, UH, APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

I GOT THIS ARTICLE FOR ANYBODY, WANTS TO SEE IT, NEW YORK, A NEW YORK POST.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YOU CAN GIVE IT TO MS. PRESLEY THERE AND IF, UH, IF SHE CAN HAND IT OUT LATER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK

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YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[9. a. Report of Town Manager]

UP NEXT REPORT TO THE TALE MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE, UH, THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO SHARE.

UH, FIRST, UH, NOVEMBER 8TH AT 7:00 PM AT TOWN HALL WILL BE OUR, OUR WORK SESSION FOR THE PUBLIC TO LET THEM KNOW, UH, NOVEMBER 11TH, UH, TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR THE VETERANS DAY.

AND THEN ALSO OCTOBER 18TH, WE OPEN UP, UH, WE WERE CLOSED THERE DUE TO COVID-19 THE DELTA VARIANT.

UH, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE OPEN COME NOVEMBER 1ST, WE, WE LOOKED AT HOW WE CAN CREATE MORE EFFICIENCIES AND ON NOVEMBER 1ST FROM EIGHT TO FOUR 30, UH, WILL BE THE HOURS OF OPERATION AT TOWN HALL.

UH, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE.

MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. HANKS, EIGHT TO FOUR 30.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? STARTING NOVEMBER 1ST.

WHAT WERE THE HOURS? THEY WERE FROM, UH, EIGHT 30 TO FIVE, UH, AT THE LOBBY AREA, BUT, BUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AREA CLOSED, UH, PRIOR TO THAT TO BREAK DOWN AND WE'D HAVE CUSTOMERS COME IN AND STILL, WE HAVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE.

SO THIS WAY, ALL, ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE ON THE SAME HOURS OF OPERATION.

SO EVERY ALL OF TOWN HALL WILL BE CLOSED AT FOUR 30.

CORRECT.

AND THAT DECISION, I'M JUST CURIOUS, THAT DECISION WAS MADE BECAUSE OF JUST LIKE LOOKING AT HOW OFTEN PEOPLE CAME IN BETWEEN FOUR 30 AND FIVE OR, OH, HOW WE, UH, CLOSE OUT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE WINDOWS WITH PASSION AND STUFF WHILE THAT WAS STILL OPEN, PEOPLE STILL WOULD COME IN THINKING WE WERE OPEN.

GOTCHA.

WE'RE NOT AT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REP AREA.

AND THEN THAT WOULD CREATE FRUSTRATION AS WELL AS AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO WE JUST FELT LIKE CLOSE TOWN HALL.

UH, SO ALL OF US WILL BE CLOSED AT THAT TIME PERIOD.

OKAY.

AND WOULD YOU, LIKE AFTER THIS GOES ON FOR A LITTLE WHILE, WOULD YOU GET BACK WITH US AND JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE, IF WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF PUSHBACK.

I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK OF LIKE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WORK DOWN THE CITY OR WHATEVER, AND, YOU KNOW, FOUR 30 TO FIVE IS STILL, MOST PEOPLE THINK OF UP TILL FIVE O'CLOCK A BUSINESS WOULD BE OPEN.

SO, SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, I'D JUST LIKE TO BE KEPT ABREAST AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, IF IT'S A BIG CHANGE OF EFFECTS, MANY PEOPLE CAUSE THE, THE, UM, THEY CAN STILL MAKE PAYMENTS BY PUTTING IT THROUGH THE WE'LL PUT OUT A PUBLIC NOTICE TOMORROW RECORDING.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NEXT

[9. b. Report of Councilmembers]

REPORT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYBODY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M JUST GOING TO LET EVERYONE KNOW.

SO I DID, UM, A COUPLE HOURS AT THE VISITOR CENTER THIS PAST WEEKEND, AND IT WAS REALLY COOL SEEING ALL OF THE FOLKS COME IN FROM, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE FROM OHIO.

WE HAD FLORIDA, WE HAD TENNESSEE, UM, SOME OF THEM WERE STOPPING, UM, ON THEIR WAY THROUGH OTHERS ACTUALLY MADE A WEEKEND OF IT.

AND IT WAS, THEY WERE SAYING SHORT-TERM RENTALS OUT IN THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, IT WAS ENCOURAGING TO SEE THAT MANY FOLKS COME THROUGH THERE.

AND THE TIME THAT I WAS THERE, I MEAN, 40, 50 PEOPLE CAME THROUGH.

COOL.

ONE OTHER THING, JUST TO REMINDER ABOUT HOMETOWN HALLOWEEN, UM, FOR THIS SUNDAY, THE TOWN WAS ALSO SPONSORING THAT.

AND I WOULD SAY TO YOU WHAT THE TIME IS, BUT I'VE SEEN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

I THINK THEY'RE FOUR TO EIGHT, WASN'T IT? WELL, FOUR TO EIGHT WAS ONE TIME, BUT THEN THEY WERE SAYING SOME THINGS WOULD BEGIN ON MAIN STREET AT 12 MS. PRESLEY.

IT'S FOUR TO EIGHT, FOUR TO EIGHT.

SO CAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A PUMPKIN CONTEST AT 12.

SO ANYWAY, FOUR TO EIGHT.

AND WHEN DOES THE ACTUAL HOMETOWN HALLOWEEN NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME ACTIVITIES DOWN THERE, BEGINNING AT NOON.

RIGHT.

BUT THE HOMETOWN HALLOWEEN IS FOUR TO EIGHT.

SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DOES THAT MEAN FROM FOUR TO EIGHT IS WHEN CANDY WILL BE GIVEN OUT OR I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TRICK OR TREATING IS STARTING AT FOUR.

I BELIEVE THAT STARTS AT SIX, BUT THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE CLOSED DOWN FROM FOUR TO EIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? SURE.

JUST A COUPLE VERY QUICK UPDATES.

I CONTINUE MY WORK, UH, UH, INTERACTING WITH THE MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION.

I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO, TO SEND AN EMAIL, UM, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT AT THE LAST MINUTE I HAD TO ATTEND A MEETING AND COULDN'T MAKE IT TO THE LAST MEETING OF THE MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION.

HAPPY TO HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FROM COUNCIL OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

JOIN ME.

UM, ALSO AS, AS WE'VE DEVELOPED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UH, THIS IDEA OF SISTER CITY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT A FORMAL, UM, SISTER RELATIONSHIP, UM, I WAS ABLE TO SHARE WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I'M REALLY I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OLDER RIVER CITIES IN EUROPE.

THE ONE THAT I KNOW BEST BEING, UM, FLORENCE, ITALY, UH, THE

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REASON IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT, UH, THE RIVER SERVES AS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S BUILT OUT SORT OF FOR COMMUNITY WISE AND ALSO, UM, ARCHITECTURALLY IN MANY WAYS, UH, FROM THE RIVER OUT INTO THE, UH, OUT INTO THE CITY.

AND THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL OR HELPFUL FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.

I WILL NOTE THOUGH THAT FLORENCE IS A LARGER CITY THAN, THAN, UM, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND THINK THAT, UM, I'VE GOT LIKE MASSIVE GROWTH IN MIND.

WHAT I JUST AM THINKING ABOUT IS JUST THE LOOK OF CERTAIN PARTS OF IT.

AND SO I'M ALSO TRYING TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY SMALLER CITIES THAT MIGHT BE ALSO HELPFUL FOR US TO LOOK AT.

OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, NEXT REPORT TO THE MAYOR AND I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT ON

[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

NEXT.

WE HAVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED HERE A SECOND.

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, MS. PRESSING, WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

HI, SAMIR COCKRELL.

YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

IT'S ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LLOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

I AN SEND A PASS UP NEXT

[11. A. Appointment and Re-Appointment to the Board of Architectural Review]

APPOINTMENT AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

ALL RIGHT.

MS. PRESLEY, COULD YOU READ THE SUMMARY PLEASE? COUNSEL'S REQUEST TO, TO A POINT AND REAPPOINT TWO MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

OKAY.

I'M REACTING.

I MOVED THAT COUNSEL POINT, CATHERINE SNYDER TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW TO A FOUR YEAR TERM, BEGINNING, NOVEMBER 13TH, 2021.

AND ENDING NOVEMBER 13, 20, 25.

I FURTHER MOVE THAT COUNCIL REAPPOINT, GARY.

UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE A MIDDLE NAME, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT'S GARY DWAYNE BONG, CORRECT? UM, TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW TO ANOTHER FOUR YEAR TERM ENDING NOVEMBER 13TH, 2025.

OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DEWEY.

I HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL, I GUESS MAYOR COCKREL COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE'S ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

AND PASSES UP NEXT.

[11. B. Bid Award for Operations Plan and Drought Management Plan (Alisa Scott)]

A BIT OF WAR FOR OPERATIONS PLAN AND DROUGHT MANAGEMENT PLAN EXPRESS.

COULD YOU READ A SUMMARY PLEASE? COUNSEL HAS REQUESTED TO APPROVE A BIT AWARD TO CHA CONSULTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $23,950 FOR THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF AN OPERATIONS PLAN AND DROUGHT MANAGEMENT PLAN AS REQUESTED FROM THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

ALL RIGHT.

OPEN UP THE COUNCIL.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE A BIT AWARD TO CHA CONSULTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $23,950 FOR THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF AN OPERATIONS PLAN AND DROUGHT MANAGEMENT PLAN AS REQUESTED FROM THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S PRESS A LITTLE BIT OF ROLL CALL.

VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL GILLESPIE'S ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

UH,

[11. C. Bid Contract Award for Snow Removal in the FY22 Winter Season (Alisa Scott)]

NEXT, UH, BID CONTRACT AWARD FOR SNOW REMOVAL FOR F Y 22 WINTER SEASON.

IT'S PRESCOTT.

YOU READ SUMMARY COUNSEL HAS REQUESTED TO APPROVE A BID CONTRACT AWARD TO TIMBER WORKS, LLC FOR SNOW REMOVAL SERVICES FOR THE FYI 22 WINTER SEASON, BASED ON THE MOBILIZATION FEES AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE SEASON, 124, $5 PER HOUR FOR EACH 7.5 SNOW PILE AND 125 PER HOUR FOR EACH SKID-STEER LOADER.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP.

THE COUNCIL, YOUR EMOTION.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE BID CONTRACT AWARD TO TIMBER WORKS, LLC FOR THE SNOW REMOVAL SERVICES FOR THE FY 22 WINTER SEASON, BASED ON THE MOBILIZATION FEES AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE SEASON $125 PER HOUR FOR EACH 7.5 SNOWPLOW AND $125 PER HOUR FOR EACH SKID STEER LOADER A SECOND PAIN DISCUSSION.

YES.

UM, MR. HICKS, UM, I WOULD'VE ASKED MR. BOYER, BUT I'M ASSUMING, UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC'S AWARE OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE NORMALLY, I'M USED TO SEEING,

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UH, TOWN STAFF DOING ALL THE SNOW REMOVAL.

UM, AND SO IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED IN OUR PACKETS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAFFED RIGHT NOW IN WITH CDL DRIVERS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE STEER AND THE DUMP TRUCKS, CORRECT.

VICE MAYOR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND ALSO, SHOULD WE HAVE A LARGE STORM JUST AS HELP SUPPLEMENT OUR WORKFORCE? RIGHT.

UM, AND WE TRY NOT TO USE IT THE BEST WE CAN.

RIGHT.

AND, AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, SIX EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THEIR CDL.

SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP TOO.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST ONE OF THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE AND BE PATIENT WITH US AND DURING, UH, DURING ANY STORMS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, MS. PRESLEY, VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL COUNSELING LAST WEEK.

ABSENT COUNCILMAN LLOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES UP NEXT.

[11. D. Award for Sole Source Goods and Services to Replace Three (3) Raw Water Pumps (Alisa Scott)]

A WAR FOR SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE OF GOODS AND SERVICES TO REPLACE THREE RAW WATER PUMPS.

SUPPRESSING, COULD YOU READ SOMETHING COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE THE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE OF GOODS AND SERVICES TO REPLACE THREE RAW WATER PUMPS AT THE LOU RAY AVENUE PUMP STATION FROM FLOW MEK IS WHAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE AMOUNT OF $316,860.

OKAY.

I HEAR A MOTION.

I MOVED THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE OF GOODS AND SERVICES TO REPLACE THREE RAW WATER PUMPS AT THE BLU-RAY AVENUE PUMP STATION FROM FLOMAX INCORPORATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $316,860.

SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

MS. PRESTON, COULD WE HAVE VICE MAYOR? COCKREL COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE'S ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LLOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

UH, NEXT

[11. E. Bid Award for De-Icing Road Salt (Alisa Scott)]

BID AWARD FOR DE ICING ROAD.

SALT COUNSEL HAS REQUESTED TO APPROVE THE BID AWARD FOR DE ICING ROAD SALT TO MORTON SALT INCORPORATED AT $79 AND 61 CENTS PER TON.

FOR YOUR EMOTION.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE BID AWARD FOR DE ICING ROAD SALT TO MORTON SALT, INC.

AT $79 AND 61 CENTS PER TIME.

SECOND DISCUSSION, MS. PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR COCKRELL.

ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LLOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OF NEXT

[12. CLOSED MEETING – Board Appointments]

A CLOSED MEETING.

I MOVED THE TOWN COUNCIL GO INTO CLUES MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 DOT EIGHT OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE ONE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES WERE APPOINTMENT TO BOARDS FOR WHICH TOWN COUNCIL IS THE POWER OF APPOINTMENT, AS WELL AS THE ASSIGNMENT APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER'S APPOINTEES ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION ONE OF THAT CODE AND TWO WITH RESPECT TO A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ENTERPRISE OUTSIDE THE TOWN'S CORPORATE LIMITS THAT IS BEING REQUESTED.

THE TOWN FURNISHED PUBLIC UTILITIES TO PURSUANT, TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AS FOLLOWS THE DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.

PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 DOT A DOT 29 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GLASSMAN'S ABSENT.

COUNCILMAN LLOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR MEETING.