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WE ALREADY HAD THE, I CALL IT[Town Council Work Session on October 14, 2021.]
THE TRADITIONAL VERSION.AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS GET THE LAW VERSION AND OFFER THAT TO OUR EMPOWER REQUIRES THAT COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
AND THERE IS THAT $300 ONE TIME FEE.
ADD THIS TO THE NEXT RESOLUTION FOR P DOT REVENUE, SHARING REVENUE SHARING APPLICATION FOR EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE.
THIS, STEVE, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE ZONE HERE? I CAN GO AHEAD AND BRIEFLY TELL THEM WHAT ELSE.
UM, WE HAD PUT MONEY IN AT 5.3.
WHAT ARE THE, UH, RIPLETS TO START THE REPLACEMENT? UM, SO WE PUT AN APPLICATION IN REVENUE, SHARING THIS YEAR OF FUNDING FOR REVENUE, SHARING THE VISIT ACCEPTED.
NOW WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE TO MY WIFE.
WHY AT 27, 28, UM, THEY STREET BRIDGE WAS BUILT IN 1965.
UM, THE BASE UNDERNEATH THE DECKING IS CORRUGATED CULVERT PIPE.
UM, SO IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK ON THE SIDES, THAT'S WHERE THE SIDEWALKS ARE ALL SEPARATE.
WE'RE SELLING MANDARIN AND CRAIG THAT THOSE ARE NOT INSPECTIONS.
IT WAS ACTUALLY HERE THIS WEEK.
WE HAD A MEETING AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SHAPE THAT'S GETTING IN.
UM, I THINK WE PUT SEVEN 50 ORIGINALLY IN THE ESTIMATE FROM WORKING AND HE COME BACK HIGHER, BUT SINCE IT'S PUSHED OUT, WE CAN ACTUALLY BREAK IT UP.
UM, THINK WE HIT SOMETHING 50, SPLIT IT OVER TWO OR THREE YEARS NOW IN THE BUDGET CYCLE COMING UP ROBBIE.
YEAH, THAT PRICE INCLUDES COMING BACK IN MILLEN AND ACTUALLY BRINGING IT UP LEVEL WITH ROAD.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT'S CALLED OR CHANEL, BUT THE, UH, DESIGN SHOWS A FIVE FOOT PRECAST BOX CALLED WE'RE.
LIKE WE DID, I WANT HAPPY CREEK, THE ONE TO CAVE IN TO BE LIKE THAT IT WOULD BE ALL PRECAST WITH A DEAD END.
SO YEAH, IT WOULD STILL WORK THIS NOW IT'LL ALL BE STRAIGHT, FLAT ACROSS TO GIVE IT MORE ROOM FOR FLOW.
WELL, THAT'D BE ON, WE COULD SIT ON IT.
UH, 22 BOOKS, AWARDING URGENT SANITARY SEWER FAIRS.
SO MONTHS AGO WE'D COME TO COUNCIL.
UM, REGARDING THE URGENT, UH, REPAIRS DONE AT THE SANITARY SEWER ARE NEEDED.
UM, WHAT KIND OF, THEY GOT THE ENGINEERING DOWN ON IT, PUT IT UP.
UH, IT'S COME BACK AT THIS LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION RECOMMENDING THAT WE USE THE FUNDS TO MAKE THESE REPAIRS.
AND BECAUSE IT'S EXCEEDS MORE THAN 1% BUDGET, WE WILL HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT THE BUDGET.
UM, PAT TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO OVER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ANYTHING FOR FUTURE.
WHEREAS THESE REPAIRS THROUGH HERE, THEY'RE ALL THERE'S, IT'S LIKE 2300 FEET OF ACTUAL MAINS.
UM, I THINK IT WAS 42 MANHOLES, ABOUT 136 LATERALS, ALL IN REVERSE STUFF.
IT COULD BE LAND OR IT WAS JUST TOO FAR GOING TO ACTUALLY TRY TO LAND OR PIPE.
YES, MA'AM TOTAL TOTAL 2 MILLION, 2 MILLION.
AND YOU SEE THE TWO LINES AND THEN THIS WOULD BE RECOMMENDED FOR FUN.
SO WE'LL BRING THAT IN TO THE SAVE, THE FUNDS.
WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
WE HAVE 7 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, JUNE 30TH AND WAS SLATED TO RECEIVE ANOTHER 7 MILLION COME NEXT YEAR.
SO CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE LIKE $5 MILLION IN PART, BUT STILL IT'S NOT GOOD.
UM, OTHER HEIRS THERE'S SOME BARBARA IS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.
THAT WAS A RECENT, THE MOST RECENT THAT'S CORRECT.
COULD YOU, UM, VIEW WITH ME THAT WE RECEIVED THIS, WE RECEIVED, IT WAS ROUGHLY
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$7 MILLION OVER 7 MILLION, UM, ON JUNE 30TH OF NEXT JUNE ITEMS THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR PRETTY NARROW, I GUESS IT COULD BE INTERPRETED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.UM, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT HAS TO BE, UH, WHAT OUR SEWER RELATED.
IT WAS ONE OF THE BIG ITEMS, UM, CLEAN WATER RECOVERY, UH, WHICH, UM, AND THEN THERE'S A HOST OF OTHER THINGS, BUT I DO PLAN ON DISCUSSING THIS MORE IN DEPTH COUNSELING.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS JUST THE NUMBER OF THESE METALS.
DIFFERENT TYPE OF LEVELS HELPED ME OUT THERE.
THE LATERAL WE WERE DISCUSSING FOR THE GRANT WOULD BE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
UH, THESE ARE THE TOWN, THE GRANT WOULD BE FOR THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THESE FUNDS PRIVATE PROPERTY WILL HAVE A PUBLIC CARRIER DISCIPLINARY.
WHAT DID YOU BUDGET FOR? OUTSTANDING PURCHASE ORDERS, DJ.
THIS IS, UH, KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM THAT WE DO EACH YEAR.
UH, THE AMOUNT OF PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WE'RE CARRYING OVER, AND THESE ARE UNSPENT FUNDS FROM PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.
SO FISCAL YEAR 21, BUT WE WANT TO CARRY FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE 22.
ANY OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
UM, SOME OF THEM ARE UNDERNEATH CRUCIAL, THE APPROVAL MORE.
YOU COULD PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, SO THE SEED MONEY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS TO BE DONE.
UM, BUT WE JUST NEED TO INCREASE THE 22 BUDGETS IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, FOR EXTENDING THESE, SOME OF THE FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPENDED FOR THIS.
WE'VE ALREADY OBLIGATED OURSELVES.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING PROJECTS BEST I CAN ON THESE DEVICES.
NEXT ORDINANCE MOVEMENT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CHICKENS IN GENERAL LIMITS.
I WANT 20, I PROVIDED FOR COUNCILOR ROOF WAS OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO URBAN AGRICULTURE.
MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE POTENTIALLY, UM, TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN GET UP TO DATE ON OUR CURRENT INSPECTIONS, WE HAVE 38 URBAN AGRICULTURAL PERMITS ON FILE IN OUR OFFICE.
AND WE HAVE NOT DONE A SINGLE CHICKEN INSTRUCTION SINCE JUNE, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE NUMBER OF HOW MANY FARM ANIMALS, CHICKEN FLAGS, JOSH, ANYTHING THAT WE HAVEN'T CAL CHICKEN INSPECTIONS.
AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR NORWOOD AGRICULTURAL PERMIT, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A MANAGEMENT PLAN TO STAFF.
STAFF SENDS THAT OUT TO JULIA CO-OP AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION THAT REVIEWS WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAN IS APPROPRIATE AND THAT THE CHICKENS WILL BE, OR RABBIT WILL BE PROPERLY CARED FOR.
AND THEN IT SAYS CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOPS TO GO OUT ONCE A YEAR AND INSPECT THE CHICKEN COOPS OR RABBIT HUTCHES, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT PRETTY IN HOUSTON ARE THEY ARE.
SO THE MINUTE THEY TURN INTO MANAGEMENT PLAN, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THE CHICKENS OR RABBITS SO THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TURN THAT IN AND THEY COULD START DOING THAT.
BUT THEN ON HER, WE DON'T ISSUE THE PERMIT UNTIL THE STATE OR TO THE CO-OP HAS LOOKED AT IT, REVIEWED IT AND GIVEN US TO BE OKAY.
THE PROBLEM WITH THESE BENEFIT PLANS IS THEY'RE VERY SUBJECTIVE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO STANDARDIZATION.
AND, UM, PEOPLE WILL JUST KIND OF WRITE DOWN ON PAPER, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX CHICKENS AND WE'RE GOING TO BUY THIS TUBE FROM RURAL.
SO THERE'S NO TRAINING OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO STAFF TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE CHICKEN COOP OR NOT, BUT THE CO-OP WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, OH, WELL, SHE'S NEVER DONE THAT YET.
AND ROE CAME ONLY FELL SIX CHICKENS AT A TIME.
UM, AND I DID PULL SOME RESEARCH FROM ABA.
THERE'S ONLY ONE SAYING THAT PERMITS FOR THAT SIX CHICKENS,
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IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN AN ACRE AND THAT'S ARIZONA, EVERYWHERE ELSE KEPT IT OFF BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT.AND, UM, HER MOST JURISDICTIONS HAD REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF CHICKEN COOP, HER CHICKENS.
SO CONNECTICUT REQUIRED SIX SQUARE FEET OF SPACE AND A COOP OR A CHICKEN.
MICHIGAN WENT DOWN TO FOUR, UM, AND SYLVANIA HAD FOUR.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAD VERY STRICT SETBACK.
SO 25 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OR 50 FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE FOR A CHICKEN COOP AND THE CHICKEN RUN AREA RIGHT NOW.
AND THE CARS ARE SITTING AT MAYBE 10.
IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY STATE STATE OF ALL IT SAID IMPOSE ANY, ANYTHING ON US? IS IT, IS IT UP TO US TO DECIDE? I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET, TRYING TO GET INTO A LITTLE LESS REGULATION.
SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE HEADING MORE REGULATION.
WELL, ALSO THIS PAST WEEK WE HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT SHEEP.
THERE THERE'S A PERSON KEEPING SHE OUT AND THEY STATED THAT THEY WERE THEIR PETS AND THAT THEY WERE EMOTIONAL THERAPY SHEETS.
SO, UM, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TONS OF CATS OR PEOPLE HAVE TONS OF DOGS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, WHAT ABOUT CHICKENS THAT GET OLD? AND YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO KILL THEM BECAUSE YOUR KIDS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY MORE EGGS.
ARE WE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION? WELL, WE ALSO DON'T PERMIT THE SLAUGHTER OF EACH CHICKEN.
IF YOU HAVE APPLIED TO THAT URBAN AGRICULTURE PERMIT, YOU CAN NOT SELL THE MEAT OR THE EGGS IN ANY ONE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO TRADE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS.
YOU CAN BORROW, MY KIDS CAN GO TO YOUR HOUSE AND STEAL SOMETHING.
BUT, UM, UM, BUT NO, YOU CAN NOT SLAUGHTER YOUR PET OR YOUR WHORE.
NO, THEY LIVESTOCK OR ARE THEY PETS? IT'S VERY CONFUSING.
RIGHT? LIVESTOCK IS CONSIDERED GOAT, SHEEP, HELLS, PIGS.
IT WAS LIKE THAT ALL PIGS ARE PROHIBITED NOW.
UM, CHICKENS, OR THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO, UM, UH, BE A LITTLE FACETIOUS ON THIS, BUT I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET TO A POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S THESE VARYING DEGREES OF WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO IT FEELS LIKE YOU RATCHET DOWN ON IT IN YOUR, I DUNNO, WHAT TIME AM I GOING TO CHICKENS GOT OUT.
AND I GOT PICKED THE WHARTON OUT AGAIN, AND WE FIND OUT YOUR CHICKEN, YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN CHARGE OF LIVESTOCK AT LARGE.
LIKE, THAT'S WHY I GOT THE PET, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE BEING HELD TO PET STANDARDS WITH LIVESTOCK BECAUSE THEIR LIVESTOCK THEY'RE ALSO BEING HELD TO THESE OTHER STANDARDS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN TWO BARRIER.
SO IT, BUT OUR ORDINANCE IS NOT CLEAR SO WE CAN WORK ON THAT, LIKE AN EXCEPTION FOR, OR WHATEVER.
I JUST, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, I'M REALLY GLAD WE HAVE THIS AND TOWN.
IT, ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WENT THROUGH WHEN IT HAPPENED, BUT AGAIN, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF.
LIKE THE B STUFF IS LIKE REALLY RESTRICTIVE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE FENCES AROUND IT AND SIGNS ALL THAT STUFF.
I MEAN, WE, THESE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOOD WITHOUT THEM, BUT, UM, PEOPLE WITH ALLERGIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH PIECES, ESPECIALLY IN A DENSE AREA IN OUR TOWN.
IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE IT, BUT THE DOWNTOWN HERE IS PRETTY HIGH DENSE.
AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THESE ANIMALS CAN CONSTITUTE NUISANCE.
SO THE SMELL NOISE, THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU STARTED SHIFTING YOUR NAME OR WHEN YOU START POTENTIALLY LOWERING THEIR PROPERTY VALUE, OR YOU HAVE ANY NOISES SMELLS, RIGHT.
AND IT WILL POINT YOU'RE KEEPING CHICKENS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR NEIGHBOR BEING ABLE TO GO UP.
ONE THING I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WHEN WE DO ENTERTAIN THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN, I DO THINK WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE APPROVE SOMETHING THAT, WHICH IS ALREADY APPROVED, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE APPROVED IT, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IF WE HAVEN'T
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INSPECTED ANYTHING IN A YEAR, YOU KNOW, CURRENT SITUATION.WHAT TYPES OF VIOLATIONS OR HOW WOULD YOU LIKE RESPONSE
WHAT I'M SAYING IS BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE OPEN UP MORE, UH, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE MIGHT BE DOING OR CONSIDERING, I'M JUST SAYING WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT THAT BECAUSE IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING, THEN WE EITHER NEED TO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENT OR CHANGE THE ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER.
I THINK WE MAKE IT BLUE SKY SCENARIO, LIKE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IN THE IDEAL SCENARIO WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF STAFF AND THEN WORK IT AS WE CAN.
UM, I, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD CHANGE IT TO MATCH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE THAT ZAP AND BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS AND MORE SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD LOOK AT IT.
SO I'M JUST GOING FROM MEMORY.
THE CHICKEN ORDINANCE IS PRETTY NEW THAT CORRECT.
IT'S NOT LIKE SOME ROUTE, SO I'M JUST THINKING THAT, UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A BIT OF A NEW FRAMEWORK.
AND SO I THINK THAT MAYBE THE INSPECTIONS STARTED WITH THE GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT I THINK FIVE YEARS, I THINK AS PART OF OUR REVIEW OF THE BACKLOG AND EVERYTHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT, WHETHER INSPECTIONS ARE REALLY NECESSARY.
UM, IF WE'RE NOT GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM ANYBODY, I THINK THAT PROBABLY MUST BE A NEUTRAL TO, UM, I MEAN, BUT, BUT, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE COMPLAINT.
I MEAN, YOU GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT DOGS, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO DOG INSPECTIONS TOO.
SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, I MEAN, WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE UNIVERSE AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GETTING A COMPLAINT HERE, COMPLAINT THERE, AND MAYBE THEY'RE LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS, BUT, UM, DO WE REALLY HAVE, UH, A, UH, WILLING TO SAY FRAMEWORK SOMETHING? WHERE DO WE REALLY HAVE LIKE A LANDSCAPE WHERE IT'S A YEARLY CHICKEN INSPECTION ISN'T NECESSARY CHECK IT OUT, OR, UH, I GUESS I DON'T, I PERSONALLY, UM, SO I JUST, I WOULD JUST, AS WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS CONSIDER WHETHER, WHETHER WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT TOO HEAVY OF A BURDEN THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON STAFF, UM, WHERE WE CAN PROBABLY JUST, I HAVEN'T BEEN SOMEWHAT LAISSEZ FAIRE, UM, UH, APPROACH TO THIS, UH, AS A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.
BUT AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GARDENING IN THEIR BACKYARD, I'VE SEEN YOU, THIS IS GENERALLY THE SAME THING.
YOU HAVE TOO MANY PIGS IN YOUR BACKYARD, YOUR NEXT, YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS HOUSE IS GOING TO GO DOWN IN VALUE.
I'D LIKE TO GET US TO HAVE A HAPPY MEETING THOUGH, WHERE, UM, IF YOU WANT TO ANIMAL OR TWO, AND THERE ARE GARDENS OF VEGETABLES, UH, YOU WANT TO DO THAT WITH YOUR ART AND THE PERSON NEXT DOOR WANTS TO HAVE A PERFECTLY MANICURED LAWN.
I MEAN, YOU GET TO DO WITH, I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION ON THIS.
SO LIKE WHEN I MOVED MY PERMIT WASN'T FLAG AS BEING MOVING, RIGHT? SO I HAD A PERMIT, SO I HAVE TO RESUBMIT A NEW PERMIT.
DO I GET CHARGED AGAIN FOR THAT NEW PERMIT? IF I MOVE AND THEN TOWN, I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ADDRESSING THAT THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOMETHING TO BRING UP LIKE, AND IT WASN'T FLAT.
LIKE WHEN MY ADDRESS CHANGE MY HOME ADDRESS, CHANGE OF THE TOWN THAT LIKE, HEY, YOU GOT PERMITS FOR X, Y, AND Z.
YOU NEED TO REDO ON AND HAVE A NEW MANAGEMENT PLAN AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
AND SO THE OTHER ISSUE IS RABBIT THAT CAN PLAY.
I WOULD'VE NEEDED A RASH FROM IT, BUT THEY DON'T LIVE OUTSIDE.
SO THE MOMENT YOUR INDOOR PET GETS PUT OUT HIGH, THEN IT MIGHT BECOME MY DEPARTMENT PURVIEW.
UM, WE HAD A LADY THAT EMAILED US BECAUSE SHE'S MOVING TO TOWN AND SHE HAS FIVE PET GOATS THAT LIVE IN HER HOUSE.
I AM TRYING TO DETERMINE, WOW, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY COME OUTSIDE, WE'LL TECHNICALLY, SHE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN TOWN, BUT WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOUR HEALTH IS NOT, SO WHAT DOES CHICKEN INSPECTION DAY? CAUSE WE'LL JUST DRIVE IN THE HOUSE, COME INSIDE CHICKENS HOSPICE TODAY.
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I TOOK OVER MY CHICKEN DAY.THEY WERE SO COUNCIL THE MAYOR.
SO THAT QUESTION, COUNCILLOR COCKEREL BROUGHT IT UP.
WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY PROGRAM ORDINANCE OR NEW INITIATIVE WE DO DOES NOT OUTPACE THE RESOURCES.
WE HAVE TO EXECUTE IT, MANAGE IT AND ENFORCE IT.
WE GOT TO FIND OUT IF THIS INSPECTION IS A STATE LAW OR NARROW DOWN, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE, WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
AND WITH LIMITED RESOURCE, UNLESS WE'RE WILLING TO BROKE UP.
RIGHT? AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE COME BACK TO FIND OUT IF IT'S REALLY REQUIRED INSPECTION AND IF IT'S NOT DO A TEXT AMENDMENT OR WHATEVER WE FEEL THAT WE NEEDED TO, TO, UM, TO CHANGE IT, MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF THERE'S A WAY WE, WE WOULD LIKE NOT TO GO OUT AND CHECK CHICKENS.
UM, AND IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
AND I, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AND I APPRECIATE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IS PART OF THAT EFFICIENCY.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT TO DO? WHAT'S REALLY OUR CORE BUSINESS AND GET OUT OF THIS STUFF.
THAT IS NOT REALLY OUR CORE FUNCTION, BUT WE ALWAYS GOT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CREATE ANY MORE NEW ORDERS, MALLS, NEW INITIATIVES OR ANYTHING THAT OUTPACES THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE IT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW GOVERNMENT GROWS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
I SUSPECT TOO, AT THE TIME WHEN THIS WAS INITIATED, THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF BACKLASH AND PROBABLY THE IDEA OF INSPECTIONS WERE TO, UM, ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF CITIZENS WHO MIGHT BE WORRIED THAT IT WAS GONNA IMPACT THEIR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, WERE THERE, I THINK LIKE MAYBE THAT WAS KIND OF A, THAT WAS KIND OF A, UM, A CALMING THIS FALL.
WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT IT ONCE A YEAR AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OKAY.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THE WELFARE OF THE ANIMAL THEN TO GET HERE ONCE AND AGAIN, NO ONE'S TAKING CARE OF THIS, CHECK IT, OR MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING HERE, I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH SPOIL AND WIRE TO HANG UP PHOSPHORUS BROWN AND JUST BRING FERTILIZER AND A LOCAL OUTLET IF IT GOES TO THE RIVER ALSO GOOD INFORMATION.
SO WE WILL PARK THIS, COME BACK WHEN WE VISITED, UM, WE WILL CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ELECTIONS.
I GOT A QUESTION JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO SOMEONE HAS CHICKENS, THEIR EGGS HATCH, AND THERE'S A ROOSTER.
SO YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE A ROOSTER IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR THAT EGG TO HATCH
MY CHICKEN DIED BECAUSE MY DOG WAS SCARED OF THE DOG SHORT TERM RENTALS, THE SHORT TERM RENTALS
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AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE, WE DO NOT PERMIT SHORT TERM RENTAL WARREN COUNTY DOES IN SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS.DO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
IT GETS ADDRESSED IN THE COMP PLAN.
AND AFTER WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND INVOLVE THE PUBLIC, IF THEIR INPUT AS TO WHAT IT IS THEY WANT TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS WILL HAVE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROS AND CONS OF SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THERE IS ALSO AN ISSUE OF WE HAVE A TRANSIENT OR THE TOT TAX TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.
AND SO THAT'S CURRENTLY SET TO, I THINK, 6%, UM, STATE CODE, UM, MANDATE SAID, UH, BETWEEN IF THE TAX IS BETWEEN TWO AND 5%, IT MUST GO TO TOURISM.
IF IT'S ABOVE 5%, IT HAS TO, IT CAN GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO RIGHT NOW I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AS TO HOW THE TAX IS LEVIED.
AND I THINK THE, MY, I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS TO MAKE ME DANGEROUS RIGHT NOW.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SHERRY, I OVER AT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE.
UM, THE STATE, UH, IS GOING TO BE TEXTING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMPANIES LIKE AIRBNB AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, THEY STARTED JUST IN SEPTEMBER, THE FIRST PAYMENT FOR THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN IN OCTOBER.
THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEHIND IT AS TO HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
AND THE COMMISSIONERS GROUP IS ACTUALLY, UM, MEETING WITH REPRESENTATIVES TO TRY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS KNOWN AS THEIR, UH, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE THE LOCALITIES WITH A LIST OF THE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING FOR AIRBNBS.
WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE MONEY.
AND I SAY, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO COME TO US OR IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A SALES TAX AND GO TO WARREN COUNTY.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION.
UM, BUT IT IS BEING WORKED ON AND HE STARTS PERCENT IS SET AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EITHER NO OTHER JURISDICTION, IT LOOKS, LOOKS WHICH PER JURISDICTION AND WHAT YOU SET IT UP BECAUSE ARLINGTON RIGHT NOW IS SNAPPED AT AN 8.2, 5% TAX.
JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO A HOTEL AND NUCLEAR ATTACK, IT'S DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT CITIES.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS 6%.
SO IT WAS THAT HARD HOURS, 86% OF THE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
NO IT'S FOR CAMPGROUNDS, HOTELS, ANY TYPE OF HOSPITAL WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
UM, SO THIS IS A HUGE TIE IN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME ON WHAT THE, WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT? SO THE COMPLETION OF THE COMP PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN 18 MONTHS.
WELL, WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL HAVE A DRAFT TO YOU.
UM, I BELIEVE AT THE NINE TO 10 MONTH MARK, UM, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WILL BE APPROVING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH WILL KIND OF GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE THESE, I GUESS, TRANSIT ORIENTED DESTINATIONS WILL BE.
SO WHERE WE WANT TO PUT OUR HOTELS WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE OUR CAMPGROUNDS, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE COLLECTING THIS TAX.
WELL, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO JUST IN GENERAL, JUST TO SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT SAY MY HOUSE OR SCOTT'S HOUSE, OR YEAH.
WHAT STOPS THE JOE FROM PUTTING THIS ON AIRBNB AND JUST RENTING IT OUT? LIKE WHAT THAT, THAT STOPS YOU RIGHT NOW, OTHER THAN WHICH IS OUR JURISDICTION, IS OUR TOWN THEN GET 6%.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO THE STATE'S COLLECTING IS DIRECTLY FROM AIRBNB.
KIND OF LIKE AMAZON, WHEN THEY COLLECT YOUR SALES TAX, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE STATE.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON WITH AIRBNB, UH, SOME MONEY HE'S DELIVERED TO US FOR THE STATE.
WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WE'VE GOT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ALREADY.
SO IF THAT HAPPENS, I MEAN, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE IN THIS CASE IT MIGHT BE, DO WE NEED TO, I MEAN, THE 18 MONTHS, I THINK IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE A REAL GOOD PLAN ON THIS FOR THE NEXT TERM, BUT ARE WE OVERTHINKING THIS CONCEPT OF JUST ALLOWING AIRBNBS WITHIN THE TOWN SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME FROM OUTSIDE OF 50 MILES AND STAY HERE TO ATTEND A FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.
LET'S TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
YEAH, JUST TO PIGGY BACK JOE AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS PORTION FAST TRACKED SINCE THE COUNTY ALREADY HAD SOMETHING IN PLACE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST MIMIC THAT KIND OF ESSENTIALLY TAKE THAT ORDINANCE SO WE CAN HAVE IT.
I PREFER TO HAVE IT SOONER THAN LATER.
LIKE I DON'T WANT OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL DECISION TO BE 18 MONTHS OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME THINGS SOONER.
UM, ESPECIALLY NOW THE FIRST IS IF YOU SAID THERE'S NOTHING THAT STOPS ANYBODY FROM PUTTING THEIR APARTMENT, THEIR HOUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR
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CONCERNS.AND I THINK THIS MAYBE JUST NEEDS TO BE A BROADER EDUCATION ITEM FOR THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL.
SO RIGHT NOW WHAT'S NOT KNOWN IS, OH, YOUR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE COVER DAMAGE TO YOUR PROPERTY.
IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE YOUR RESIDENTIAL, USE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL USE AND RENT IT OUT TO PEOPLE AND TURN IT ESSENTIALLY INTO A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, IT DOES NOT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC, EVERYBODY THAT WANTS THIS OR WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, I USED TO HAVE A FROG IN FRONT ROOM OVER THE GARAGE, AND I USED TO RENT THAT OUT AS AN AIRBNB AT MY HOUSE IN TRIANGLE.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS JUST A QUICK WAY PEOPLE WOULD COME IN FOR THE MARINE.
SO THEIR KID WOULD BE GRADUATING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT WAS USUALLY MILITARY FAMILIES THAT WOULD COME IN THERE FOR THE WEEKEND.
AND I MEAN, IT WAS GREAT, BUT THERE WAS ALL AGREEMENTS AND THINGS WITH AIRBNB WHERE THEY MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS STUFF.
SO IT MIGHT BE THEN THAT COMPANY OR OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMPANIES WHERE YOU LIST, WHERE THEY GIVE YOU ALL THE SPECIFICS ON THAT.
SO, I MEAN, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S DONE THEIR BNB, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO INSURANCE IMPLICATIONS IN TERMS OF THAT.
CAUSE I WAS PAYING FEES TO AIRBNB THAT THEN COVER BACK INSURANCE ON THAT.
SO THERE WAS THAT'S WHERE THOSE FEES GO INTO, THEY GO INTO COVERING THAT OVERHEAD AND PROFIT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES.
THERE IS SUCH THING AS SHORT TERM RENTAL INSURANCE FOR YOUR HOME AND IT SAYS YOU CAN REPLACE YOUR HOMEOWNERS OR YOUR LANDLORD INSURANCE WITH EVERYONE YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO IF YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
SO YOU'RE TURNING INTO COMMERCIAL, THERE'S THAT OPTION.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST MAKE THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN THE PROCESS OF THIS, DO AN INFORMATIVE CAMPAIGN AND THEN ALLOW IT, I JUST SEE IT AS, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OPTIONS FOR HOTELS IN TOWN THAT ARE LONG-TERM RENTALS GOING TO CALL IT THAT.
AND IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO COME IN HERE FOR TOURISTS, SO, AND WE CAN PUT STUFF ON IT, THERE NEEDS TO BE CARETAKERS.
THE COUNTY DOES THAT COUNTY HAS.
I FELT LIKE THEY HAD GOOD BOUNDARIES.
LIKE I THINK JUST MIMICKING THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED.
A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS MAKE ADVICE, ESPECIALLY THEY GET WOULD BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IF IT SAY IT WAS IN OUR ENTRANCE COURT OR IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT THEN MAYBE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT ANYWHERE ELSE IN TOWN, THAT WAY YOU CAN POTENTIALLY PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF PREVENTING ANY TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE AND, YOU KNOW, PROHIBITING PEOPLE FROM HAVING LARGE, YOU KNOW, HOSTING A WEDDING THERE OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN THERE'S DAMAGED NEIGHBOR TO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
CAUSE I'D SAW THE COUNTY'S DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN THEY DISCUSSED IT.
AND I THOUGHT THEY ADDRESS THINGS.
I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THEY ADDRESSED IT, BUT LIKE ART WALLS, LIKE NOISE, TRASH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THEY WOULD STILL DOES THAT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'D HAVE TO DO EXTRA OR PUT THAT IN THE POLICY OR THE ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYALS.
I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK LAUREN FIRST VALIDATION OR CLARIFY.
I'M JUST SAYING IT FROM WHEREVER THE WORK BEFORE WE WOULD IMPOSE THAT ONLY ONE FAMILY CAN RUN OUT AND THE SELLING AND IT HAD TO BE, THE ENTIRE UNIT HAD TO BE RENTED.
IT WASN'T DIFFERENT PARTIES HAVE DIFFERENT ROOMS. THERE WERE RESTRICTIONS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE MISSING OUT ON HERE, RIGHT? IT'S THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY NOW HAS THIS.
SO PEOPLE ARE DOING, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING IT PROBABLY.
SO, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY I THINK WE NEED TO FAST TRACK WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN.
WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF YOU CAN FIND OUT EVERY MEETING NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO THE COUNTY.
UM, AND WHEN DID THE COUNTY PASS THAT? UH, AND A LITTLE BIT, IT HASN'T BEEN TERRIBLY LONG WOULD GO.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN IN THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS, BUT SOME PLACES IN THE COUNTY THOUGH, I THINK CERTAIN, UM, YEAH.
CAUSE I KNOW I MET SOMEBODY DOWNTOWN WHEN I WAS DOING A RIBBON CUTTING AND THEY HAD STAYED IN AN AIRBNB AND I WAS GOING TO SHARE THEIR PICTURE ON MY FACEBOOK.
AND THEN IT DAWNED ON ME LATER WHERE THEY TOLD ME THEY STAYED AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S NOT LOUD.
YOUR LORD DOES THAT CHANGE THE ZONING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD? AND WE CAN CHANGE THE NOTION THAT ESSENTIALLY WITH THIS, WE WOULD BE ISSUING A ZONING PERMIT BECAUSE YOU'RE CHANGING THE KIDS FROM RESIDENTIAL YOU'RE PROFITING FROM IT.
SO IT CAN BECOME A COMMERCIAL, A CHANGE OF USE.
THAT'S WHY THE APARTMENT, THAT'S WHY WE CARE.
DOES EVERY JURISDICTION LIKE NATIONWIDE REQUIRE PERMITS OR SPECIAL USE PERMITS TO
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HAVE AN AIRBNB? CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT.ESPECIALLY THE PERMIT, DUMFRIES TRIANGLE OR THE COUNTY.
YOU ALREADY HAVE JURISDICTIONS AROUND HERE.
DO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NATIONWIDE? UM, I WAS IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY AND I DIDN'T HAVE RIGHT AWAY.
AND PATTY DOES HAVE, I THINK A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR A TOURIST HOME, WHICH IS LIKE WHAT I THINK THEY FIND IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY LUMP IN ROOMS, RENTAL OR GARAGE.
OH, SO THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
I THINK YOUR INFORMATION AND BAM THROW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A COMPLAINT BASE.
SO WE ONLY KNEW IF WE GOT COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO COUNSEL AGAIN, I THINK IT'S OUR ROLE TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO.
YOU CAN HAVE A PROCESS WHERE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ISSUE P THE RISK YOU HAVE IS I THINK IF SOMEONE WERE TO HAVE ONE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT I THINK STP PROCESS TRIGGERS A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE YOU WILL AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS OR CITIZENS, IF THEY, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
UM, AND WE MAY FIND OUT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN OUT AND THERE'S BEEN XYZ ALREADY.
AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SAY THEY'VE CALLED THE POLICE.
AND SO IT'S MORE OF ALSO ALLOWING THE CITIZENS TO HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS.
NOW, WITH THAT SAID, YOU ALL CAN SAY, BRING US BACK A TEXT MOMENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, BUT THEY DO REQUIRE TO GET A PERMIT.
SO AT LEAST WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND START, OKAY.
AND THAT'S WHY
AND THEN THEY'VE COME HERE AND WE HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT THEM EVERY DAY.
BUT NOW THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY'S DOING A PUBLIC HEARINGS EVERY TIME THEY HAVE A SHORT-TERM PANEL, BUT IS IT GOING, I GUESS, IS IT GOING TO THEIR PLAN? SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY'RE SETTING IT UP.
IF THEY SET IT UP WITH SPECIAL PERMIT, IT COULD BE GOING TO BZA, THAT'S HOW IT IS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BECAUSE THE BCA IS QUALIFIED JUDICIAL.
UM, HERE WE ONLY HAVE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THEN TO YOU, YOU ARE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THOSE.
UM, BUT IN THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS I'VE WORKED WHEN IT DID GO TO THE BZA, THEY IMPOSE LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT COULD BE RENTED.
THE FACT THAT THE CARETAKER HAD TO BE ONSITE AND THEY DID REQUEST INPUT FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO FIT INTO THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU ALL TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION OR SUP BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF THAT TO PROCESS.
AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S CONSENSUS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT, WITH THE OPTIONS AND GET THIS DONE CONCURRENTLY WHILE WE'RE DOING COMMON ZONING ORDERS.
UM, I IS, WHILE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE GENERALLY, WE'RE THINKING, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM GARNETTE NEAR THE, UM, THE COUNTY'S PROCESS, WHICH DOES REQUIRE A HEARING THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A WAY THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BUT STILL, UH, HAVE IT, TAKE IT UP DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
AND THEN JUST, I JUST HAD A SORT OF QUESTION WHERE SUPPOSING THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE DOING AIRBNB AND IT'S A VIOLATION.
WHO'S THE ENFORCEMENT IT'S IT'S PLANNING, ZONING.
SO, I MEAN, THERE WAS A TIME PEOPLE COULD JUST PEOPLE, THE STAFF COULD HOP ON EVERYTHING, CHECK, WHICH ONES ARE ALREADY ALL OUT, AND THEN WE'RE SPACING.
WE CAN SEND THEM LETTERS AND EVEN OFFER MORATORIUM TIME THAT, HEY, WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU HAVE THIS, WE JUST GO BACK TO THE PROCESS.
WE'LL GIVE YOU 60 DAYS TO AT LEAST GET YOUR APPLICATION TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE WE HAVE.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS, ARE CLUES MEETING.
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I LIVE THE TOWN COUNTS, GOING TO CLOSE ME PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO 20 DASH 3, 7 11, AND THE CODE OF VIRGINIA WITH FOUND REASONS, ONE CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING VESTIGE COUNSEL, SPECIFICALLY HUSBANDS OR ACTUAL AND PROGRAMMING MATTERS RELATED TO A CONTRACT.HEY, WITHIN OPERATING INTO D LOCATED INSIDE THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE TOWN, WHICH THE TOWN IS CONSIDERING BECOMING A PARTY LIP AND THE TOWN WISHES TO CONSIDER ITS LEGAL OPTIONS PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION EIGHT DOT EIGHT B WITH ANOTHER AGREEMENT, THE TOWN IS ALREADY A PARTY TO WHICH HAS BECOME PROBLEMATIC.
AND THE TOWN WAS JUST CONSIDERED EQUAL OPTIONS PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION EIGHT, NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS.
AND NOW I'M GOING DOWN PROJECT WHERE COMPETITION OR BARGAINING IS INVOLVED, WHERE IF MADE PUBLIC INITIALLY THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF THE TOWN WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION EIGHT DOT SIX AND THREE, THE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION, OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARDS, FOR WHICH TOWN COUNCIL HAS THE POWER OF APPOINTMENT, AS WELL AS THE ASSIGNMENT APPOINTMENT, PROBATION, PERFORMANCE, DIMENSION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS POINTS.
THESE ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION A.ONE OF THAT CODE.