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WE CALL IT ORDER THE REGULAR

[1. MOMENT OF SILENCE]

TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH, THE ORDER.

AND WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

[2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA NEXT HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

MS. PRESLEY,

[3. ROLL CALL]

CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? MAYOR HOLLOWAY, ABSENT VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL HERE.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN LOYD, COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON HERE.

YEP.

OKAY.

NUMBER FOUR,

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVES THE WORK SESSION, MISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 9TH AND REGULAR MEETING.

MINUTES OF AUGUST 23RD AS PRESENTED SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

CAN WE TAKE COOL VICE MAYOR COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON, NUMBER FIVE.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITION OR DELETIONS OF ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

[6. RECOGNITIONS/AWARDS/REPORTS– Report from Director of Planning Lauren Kopishke re: Notice of Violations within the Town - Reading of Proclamation for Public Power Week - Mayor]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER SIX.

UH, RECOGNITIONS AWARDS AND REPORTS.

AND WE HAVE A REPORT FROM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, LAUREN KABOOSH, SKI KEMPINSKI.

I WAS CLOSE.

HOW WAS I'LL MISS HAD IT.

OKAY.

REGARDING THE NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS WITHIN THE TOWN.

THANK YOU, LAUREN VICE MAYOR CANNOT DO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

CERTAINLY.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, GOALS THAT COUNCIL HAS ESTABLISHED AND REQUESTED IS THAT WE, WE KIND OF LOOK FOR MOVING FORWARD MORE AGGRESSIVELY ON NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS.

AND, AND, AND AS A RESULT, THAT'S BEEN ASKED THAT ON A PERIODICALLY, UH, TIME PERIODS, LIKE EVERY TWO MONTHS THAT STAFF GIVES AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE ENOVIA AND WHAT STEPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN, UH, TO, TO KINDA ADDRESS SOME OF OUR, UH, UH, IN OBS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

SO THIS WILL BE, UH, A RE REOCCURRING, UH, TOP OF PRESENTATION AND HOPES THAT, UH, WE SHARE WITH THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS COUNCIL THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO BEFORE YOU GUYS IS A M IS THE ACTUAL, UM, AN OVSP FROM 2018, THAT IS YOUR FIRST SLIDE.

SO WHAT THIS IS SHOWING YOU, OUR SYSTEM CLASSIFIES THESE VIOLATIONS PER CODE SECTION, UM, THE CODE OR THE FIRST ONE, UH, OR THE INTERRUPTS.

SO THAT IS FR 1 75 DASH ONE 10.

UM, AND SO FOR 2018, YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD BETWEEN 300 AND 350 AND OPERATIVE VEHICLES THAT WE CITED.

UM, THE NEXT BAR TO YOUR ONE 70 DASH TWO IS YOUR HIGH GRASS VIOLATIONS.

UM, AND WE HAD BETWEEN 200 AND 250 OF THOSE.

THE NEXT HIGHEST IS, ARE THE ZONING VIOLATIONS AND THEN TRASH AND DEBRIS.

SO TOTAL FOR 2018, WE HAD 766 NOTICE OF VIOLATION SENT OUT.

UM, IN 2019, WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME TREND, UM, IN OPS BEING THE HIGHEST, UM, OR THE, THE MOST NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS, THEN HIGH GRASS, ZONING, TRASH AND DEBRIS, UM, AND 2020, THE NUMBER DROPS SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO THIS IS THE POINT AT WHICH, UM, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER BECAME THE INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE STILL, UM, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF INOPS THAT WERE CITED.

THEN THE GRASS, UM, THE, UH, LARGER NUMBER HERE, THE FR 1 75, 100, THOSE ARE RV,

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UM, VIOLATIONS.

AND SO FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WE HAVE 122 VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT OUT THUS FAR.

THERE HAVE BEEN 56, 56 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN SINCE I STARTED AT, AND HE COULD ACTUALLY GO BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

SO I THINK MOVING FORWARD AS HIS TIME IS FREED UP AND HE CAN GO BACK TO BEING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

YOU'LL START TO SEE THESE ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS.

THAT'S THE LARGER ONE FOR THAT ONE, THE R 1 75, 1 TEN.ONE.

SO THOSE ARE THE INOPERATIVE VEHICLES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I WAS THINKING OF THE BLUE.

WAS THAT OKAY? AND THEN YOUR NEXT HIGHEST ONE HERE, THAT ONE 70 DASH TWO THAT'S GRASS.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, I THINK MORE ZONING PERMITS.

SO THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST BUILDING FENCES, SHEDS, OR DOING SOME TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY WITHOUT FIRST SEEKING OUT A ZONING PERMIT.

AND THEN THE, UM, TRASH AND DEBRIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, WE GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT.

YEP.

UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES.

I WOULD DARE CALL A REPEAT OFFENDERS.

I CALL REGULARLY ON THREE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.

UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO, TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING? LIKE TAKE THE WASHER AND DRYER OFF THEIR FRONT PORCH, UM, MOW THE GRASS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THE PROCESS IS.

I KNOW THEY GET LETTERS AND THEY MIGHT GET THREATENED WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLAR FINE, BUT WE CAN DO IN THOSE INSTANCES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND WE CAN CUT THE GRASS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT COST.

IF WE HAVE TO GO IN AS A TOWN AND CHARGE THEM $400 FOR CUTTING THEIR GRASS, EVENTUALLY THE HOPE IS THAT THEY WILL CATCH ON START DOING GRASSES MINOR FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT I FOLLOW OAKLAND.

A LOT OF THEM ARE OKAY, WE CAN GO IN AND WE CAN REMOVE IT.

BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TOWN STAFF.

THAT'S THEIR TIME.

THERE'S THERE'S COST TO THE TOWN.

UM, BUT IT, IT CAN BE DONE.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, WORDS IT'S JUNK, AND THEN YOU, WITH THE JUNK, YOU'RE ATTRACTING THE RODENTS AND IT BECOMES A SAFETY HAZARD FOR THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE, SINCE EVERYBODY'S RELATIVELY CLOSE TOGETHER, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT LIKE THAT.

SO, AND W AND MOVING FORWARD, UM, HE IS ABLE TO DEDICATE A LOT MORE TIME TO GOING OUT AND SAY, OKAY, GETTING THESE TAKEN CARE OF YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

NEXT UP IS THE PROCLAMATION FOR PUBLIC POWER WEEK.

UM, AND I BELIEVE I'M JUST GOING TO READ THAT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING PUBLIC POWER WEEK FROM OCTOBER 3RD, THROUGH THE NINTH 2021.

AND THAT IS A WEEK LONG CELEBRATION OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL IS YEAR YEAR-ROUND SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL BEAR WITH ME.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW PLACES HAVE VALUE ON THE BENEFITS OF LOCAL CONTROL OF UTILITY SERVICES.

AND THEREFORE OPERATES A COMMUNITY OWNED, NOT FOR PROFIT ELECTRICITY, ELECTRIC UTILITY, AND WHEREAS BEING CUSTOMERS AND OWNERS OF THE TOWN IN FRONT ROW ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND HAVE A DIRECT SAY IN UTILITY OPERATIONS AND POLICIES.

AND WHEREAS THE ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT PROVIDES HOMES, BUSINESSES, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WITH SAFE, RELIABLE, AND EFFICIENT ELECTRICITY, AND EMPLOYEE SOUND BUSINESS PRACTICES DESIGNED TO ENSURE THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE AT NOT-FOR-PROFIT RATES.

AND WHEREAS THE ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS A VALUABLE COMMUNITY ASSET THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE WELLBEING OF LOCAL CITIZENS, THROUGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND SAFETY AWARENESS.

AND WHEREAS THE ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS A DEPENDABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY INSTITUTION WHOSE LOCAL OPERATION PROVIDES MANY CONSUMER PROTECTIONS AND CONTINUES TO MAKE THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK AND CONTRIBUTE TO A SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT.

AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO BRING SAFE, RELIABLE ELECTRICITY, TO COMMUNITY HOMES AND BUSINESSES JUST AS IT HAS SINCE 1894, THE YEAR WHEN THE UTILITY WAS CREATED TO SERVE ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 3RD, THROUGH NINTH, 2021 BEAT DESIGNATED PUBLIC POWER WEEK IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL TO RECOGNIZE THE ENERGY SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR ITS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO EDUCATE CUSTOMER OWNERS, POLICYMAKERS, AND EMPLOYEES ON THE BENEFITS OF PUBLIC POWER AND ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN HANDS WITH MORE THAN 2000 OTHER PUBLIC POWER SYSTEMS IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND THIS CELEBRATION OF PUBLIC POWER, WHICH IS BEST FOR CONSUMERS BUSINESS,

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THE COMMUNITY AND THE NATION, MARY VICE MAYOR, UM, DAVID JENKINS, HE'S HERE TO, TO REPRESENT THE, UH, ENERGY SERVICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS SINCE HE'S A SHORT TIMER, GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL READ THAT PROCLAMATION OFFICE IS A HUGE DEAL FOR PUBLIC POWER.

AS SHE SAID, THERE'S OVER 2000 OF US, YOU KNOW, LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT IT DOES.

IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIGHTER KNIT GROUP OF PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BETTER RESPONSE TIME THAN THE LARGER COMPANIES THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE AREA AND HAVE TO COME IN AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

SO WE'LL BE CELEBRATING, UM, THAT WE GET THE SHOP AND PUTTING A FEW THINGS OUT ON FACEBOOK HERE AND THERE, AND THAT TYPE OF THING, AND MAKING PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE DO AND WHY WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, W WE'RE THE, WE'RE THE GUYS THAT YOU SEE IT, YOU KNOW, RURAL KING OR WALMART IN A GROCERY STORE OR AT THE BANK OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GET TO KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY AND IT MAKES FOR A NICE FIT GROUP.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU READING THAT OFF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE REALLY QUICKLY, CAUSE I WAS ABLE TO PULL IT UP QUICKLY.

UM, BUT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I SAW LAST WEEK ON FACEBOOK AND IT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE WERE JUST SHARING.

SOMEBODY POSTED, SHOUT OUT TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT, TRAVIS, THE CREW FOREMAN, AND ALL THE CREW CAME OUT AND TOOK CARE AND RESOLVE THE OUTAGE.

I BET IF I LIVED IN NOVA, IT WOULDN'T HAVE WENT THAT WAY.

ANOTHER GREAT REASON TO LOVE FRONT ROYAL.

SO, UM, I KNOW YOU ALREADY SAW THAT, WHERE HE SHARED THAT WITH YOU, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO

[7A. Special Exception Application by Chris Holloway Construction Requesting a New, Non-Dedicated Private Street Accessed Off Carter Street(Lauren Kopishke)]

MOVING ON TO NUMBER SEVEN, AND THIS IS OUR, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UM, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS WHERE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION BY CHRIS HOLLOWAY CONSTRUCTION REQUESTING A NEW NON DEDICATED PRIVATE STREET ACCESS OFF CARTER STREET.

MS. PRESLEY, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE SUMMARY FOR US COUNTY? COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO CONSIDER A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY CHRIS HOLLOWAY CONSTRUCTION REQUESTING A NEW NON DEDICATED PRIVATE STREET PURSUANT TO TOWN CODE WE'D STATE SUBDIVISION ON NEW NON-DEDICATED PRIVATE STREETS MAY BE PERMITTED UPON THE APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION BY COUNSEL.

THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO PARCELS IN THE STEEL SUBDIVISION ZONED R DASH THREE, AND LOCATED NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF LANE WITH CARTER STREET, A PRIVATE STREET IS REQUIRED DUE TO THE VACATION OF CARTER STREET AND THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO NAME THE PROPOSED PRIVATE STREET TO RIDER VINSON LANE OR COURT TOWN CODE REQUIRES COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE STREET NAME AND REQUIRES THAT NEW STREETS MUST BEAR THE NAME OF THE EXISTING STREET PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION AT THEIR MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, BASED ON ONE, A LACK OF TURNAROUND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO LACK OF EXPLANATION FOR A PROPOSED STREET WITH 20 FEET INSTEAD OF 40 FEET PER CODE THREE LACK OF ROAD CONSTRUCTIONS PLANS TO SEE HOW IT TIES IN WITH EXISTING PUBLIC STREETS AND FOUR APPLICANT NOT PROVIDING PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF THE PRIVATE DRIVE PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION.

SO LOTS OF LEGAL ROAD FRONTAGE TO APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PLANS AS PART OF THE NEW SUBDIVISION PLAN.

THREE APPLICANT DECIDES ON THE EXACT NAME OF THE PROPOSED STREET NAME, RIDER BENSON LANE, OR COURT.

AND FOUR APPLICANT PROVIDES THE STAFF WITH A COPY OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO BE DISCLOSED TO THE BUYERS OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A FINAL COMPLIANCE CERTIFICATE.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING MS. PRESSLEY, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS ONE? WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO, YES.

MR. FARNER HELLO.

I'M WILLIAM BARNETT.

I LIVE AT 1, 1 5 1 5 BUCK MOUNTAIN ROAD, BENTONVILLE, VIRGINIA.

I OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN FRONT ROYAL.

UH, I WOULD SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, UH, APPROVAL THIS THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PUT IN A NEARBY THE

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SAME PROPERTY, THEY'RE VERY HIGH QUALITY, VERY GOOD.

ALSO, UH, THE, THEY IMPROVE THE AA ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION THERE BECAUSE THEY CONNECT STREETS WITH DEAD ENDS, UH, TO ONE TO ANOTHER.

SO THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC DEAD ENDS THERE.

UH, THE OTHER THING IS THAT THEY ALSO, UH, THEY ALSO ARE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE, UH, THEY WILL HELP WITH THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, AND THE IDEA THAT THEY CITED AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THAT THE, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE A HINDRANCE TO, UH, TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY SUCH AS, UH, THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND RESCUE SQUAD.

ACTUALLY THE VIRGINIA CODE REQUIRES 16 FEET FOR, UH, FOR, UH, THE, UH, FOUR FIRE ENGINES AND, UH, RESCUE SQUATS.

AND SO THIS GREATLY EXCEEDS WHAT'S WHAT THEY REQUIRE FOR THAT.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO ASSUME TO SUPPORT THIS AND, AND SECURE THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FRONT ROW.

ISN'T A PRO GROWTH, UH, PHASE.

AND I WOULD JUST REALLY ASK YOU TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? SO I LIKE TO SPEAK SURE.

MR. BROGAN, SORRY.

IF YOU KNOW, SORRY.

I KNOW PEOPLE'S NAMES.

GO AHEAD.

YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M JOE BERGEN.

I'M WITH BERGEN LANCER, BANG.

I RESIDE AT 1 52 BROGANS LANE BENTONVILLE, AND I AM THE PROJECT SURVEYOR FOR CHRIS HALLWAY CONSTRUCTION.

AND I'M ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF CHRIS HALLWAYS AND CONSTRUCTION TO GO OVER ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAY HAVE AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.

UM, SO THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THE LAST WERE CREATED IN 1981, THEY FRONTED ON AN UNIMPROVED CARTER STREET, WHICH A PORTION OF THAT HAS BEEN VACATED THROUGH THE YEARS.

SO WHEN THE IDEA TO DEVELOP THESE LOTS FOR TOWNHOUSES CAME UP, WE WENT INTO, UM, MEET WITH THE PREVIOUS PLANNING DIRECTOR, WILSON TO DISCUSS THE STEPS AND, UH, OR TO SEE IF WE COULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO OBTAIN THE TOWNHOUSE LOTS, UM, AND THE D GO OVER THE PROCESS TO GET TO THAT POINT.

SO, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I DO AND ON ALL MY PROJECTS THAT ARE MULTI-STEP PROCESSES, BECAUSE WE HAD TO START WITH FIRST OF ALL, UM, VACATION CARTER STREET.

SO ONCE THAT WAS VACATED, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ALL APPROVED A WHILE BACK, THE NEXT STEP WAS TO, UM, TAKE THE VACATED CARTER STREET, WHICH KIND OF CREATED A DEAD END FOR SCOTT STREET.

SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PLAN ORIGINALLY WAS TO, YOU KNOW, NOT LEAVE SCOTT STREET AS A DEAD END, BUT ONCE WE COME IN WITH THE NEW PRIVATE STREET, WE WOULD HAVE A THROUGH STREET SITUATION FOR SCOTT STREET.

SO THEY SIT AND HAVE A SECOND STEP AFTER THE, UM, VACATION OF CARTER WAS TO CONSOLIDATE THE CARTER STREET PORTION WITH THE, THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE ONE, ONE PIECE OF LAND THAT FRONTED AT THE END OF CARTER STREET, AND THEN THE RESIDUAL PORTION OF, UM, I'M SORRY, FRONTED ONTO AT THE END OF SCOTT AND THE RESIDUAL PORTION OF UNIMPROVED CARTER STREET.

SO ONCE WE OBTAIN THAT, THE NEXT STEP WAS TO, UM, SUBDIVIDE THE LOTS ON A PRIVATE STREET, WHICH WE DID, SO THAT WAS DONE AND APPROVED BY, UM, THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY.

AND THEN ONCE THAT WAS APPROVED AND RECORDED, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLOT PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY, I GUESS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT END, UH, COUNTY, UM, BUILDING PARTNER.

SO AT THAT POINT, MR. HALLWAY STARTED CONSTRUCTION, CLEARED THE LAND, UM, DUG THE BASEMENTS AND DUG THE FLOATERS.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT IT WAS, I GUESS, REALIZED THAT THERE WAS THE PROCESSES WERE OUT OF STEP.

SO MR. HALLWAY STOPPED INSTRUCTION.

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UM, AND I THINK, BELIEVE IT, THAT WAS THE, OF A WORK SESSION, I THINK WITH, UM, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT HE VACATED THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH HE VOLUNTARILY DID, SO WE COULD GET THE STEPS BACK IN ORDER, BUT AS IT, AS IT WAS FOUND OUT, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS REQUIRED FIRST TO OBTAIN THE RIGHT TO DO THE SUBDIVISION.

SO, BUT ALL THIS WAS OUTLINED.

THE STEPS ARE OUTLINED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WITH THE PREVIOUS PLANNING DIRECTOR.

SO FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT GOT OUT OF ORDER, UH, WHICH BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

UM, SO THE OTHER, OTHER ISSUES, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIRE, UM, EMERGENCY SERVICES ACCESS.

SO IF THE PRIVATE STREET IS APPROVED, SCOTT STREET, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WOULD BE A THROUGH STREET CAUSE AS IT EXISTS NOW, SCOTT STREET, IF A FIRE TRUCK HAD TO GO TO THE END OF SCOTT STREET FOR A CALL, THEY'D HAVE TO BACK UP 382 FEET TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION SECTION.

CAUSE THERE'S NO, COL-DE-SAC NO TURNAROUND.

UM, ONE BLOCK DOWN, WE HAVE STEEL AVENUE, THAT'S ALSO A DEAD END STREET.

UM, FIRE APPARATUS WOULD HAVE TO BACK UP ALMOST 500 FEET TO THE NEXT INDUSTRY SECTION BECAUSE THERE'S NO CUL-DE-SAC THERE.

SO THESE PROPOSED TOWNHOUSE LOTS, UM, WHERE SCOTT STREET INTERSECTS THE PRIVATE STREET, THE THERE'S 70 FEET OF STREET THAT DEAD ENDS AS THE PRIVATE STREET, THE REST OF THE STREET, YOU COULD DRIVE THROUGH ONTO THE PRIVATE STREET AND GO DOWN QUARTER TO BEATEN LANE.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIRE ACCESS, YOU WOULD HAVE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

IF THE WHOLE REST OF THAT PRIVATE STREET WAS PLUGGED UP ON AN EMERGENCY CALL, YOU WOULD HAVE 70 FEET THAT A TRUCK WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET RIGHT TO THE FRONT OF THE, UM, TOWNHOUSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE FIRE TRUCKS HAVE HUNDREDS OF FEET OF HOSE ON THEM.

UM, WE HAVE A LADDER CHALK AREA, LADDER TRUCK, THAT'S 125 FEET LONG.

AND YOU KNOW, IF A FIRE TRUCK NEEDED TO GET CLOSER OR EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT, THEY CAN MOVE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE MOVED TO IT.

THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

SO, UM, I THINK WE KIND OF GET A BETTER SITUATION BY SCOTT STREET BEING A THROUGH STREET NOW AND IT IMPROVES ACCESS FOR ALL, ALL ON SCOTT AND, AND EVERYONE THAT WOULD BE ON THE PRIVATE STREET.

UM, I KNOW, I KNOW THE OTHER, UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES I TALKED TO PLANNING TODAY, UM, OR WASN'T SURE HAD THEY BEEN ADDRESSED.

UM, WHAT'S AS FAR AS THE, UM, UM, RE UH, JOINT MAINTENANCE, HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? SORRY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PROPER GRIP YOU, ME TOO.

I'M GOING TO SAVE, THIS WAS PROPER PROCEDURE.

DO YOU MIND, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS, CAN WE SHARE THIS? COULD MS. , COULD YOU MAYBE KIND OF JOIN US UP HERE AND WE COULD ASK, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOMEBODY HAS SPOKEN WITH PLANNING TODAY TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

WAS THAT ONE OF THEM, LAUREN, LAUREN, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN, OR YOU COULD DO THAT, MIKE.

SO IF Y'ALL, I FEEL ARE, UM, I RECEIVED AN APP OR, SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR, I CAN, ALL RIGHT.

TODAY WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAD VOICED AT THE SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING.

SO IN REGARDS TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND THE, UM, WHAT IS IT, THE DEED, OR, SORRY, THE PRIVATE ROAD RESTRICTIONS.

HE STATED THAT HE WILL, UM, PROVIDE THAT PRIOR TO US ISSUING ANY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

UM, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOCUMENT THUS FAR.

RIGHT.

SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HE'S WORKING ON IT AND IT'LL BE FURNISHED AS WE WALK THROUGH OR GO THROUGH THIS REVIEW PROCESS.

OKAY.

YEP.

RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD.

I MEAN, THAT WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT OR, OR IF Y'ALL WANT TO HANG AROUND UP THERE THAT YOU CAN.

YES.

SO I THINK THE PLAN WAS THAT MR. HOLLOWAY WOULD, WOULD MAINTAIN THE STREET AS HE SOLD THE, THE, UM, TOWNHOUSES.

THEY WERE BEING A JOINT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

SO ONCE HE SOLD THE LAST TOWNHOUSE, THEN THERE WOULD BE A JOINT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE NEW OWNERS THAT WOULD CARRY ON WITH THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT TRASH PICKUP.

ALSO.

I THINK WE ADDRESSED THAT, OR I THINK THE TOWN HAS ADDRESSED THAT SO THAT THE RESIDENTS OF

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THAT STREET WILL BE ABLE TO, IF THEY CHOOSE, THEY CAN HAVE TRASH PICKUP, THEY WOULD PAY THE FEE, THE MONTHLY FEE, AND THEY WOULD NEED TO TAKE, THEY'D BE ISSUED A BLUE TRASHCAN FROM THE TOWN AND THEY COULD TAKE IT TO SCOTT OR, UM, STEEL STREET, TAKE IT TO THE NEAREST ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS IF THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT FOR TRASH.

RIGHT.

UM, THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING I GOT FROM MR. BOYER.

SO THIS, I MEAN, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TOWN HOMES, AND, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING IS, ARE THREE FOR TOWNHOMES AND, AND THIS, THIS SIX LOT DEVELOPMENT IS A GOOD FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BROGAN BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE, UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, MR. BERGEN, UM, THE TWO HOUSES THAT WERE CURRENTLY THE DUPLEXES THAT ARE ON CARTER STREET, UM, THEY WILL STILL, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR LAUREN AND POSSIBLY B J TOO.

THEY WILL STILL HAVE HALF SNOW REMOVAL.

AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT MR. BOYER TODAY? YES, BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF CARTER STREET WAS NOT VACATED.

SO HE DOES STILL RESIDE ON A PUBLIC STREET.

I THINK ANOTHER ONE THING I MIGHT ADD.

SO WHEN, WHEN THE 20 FOOT PRIVATE STREET WOULD BE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF WHAT USED TO BE CARTER VACATED, THERE'S WATER AND SEWER LINES THAT TRAVELED THROUGH NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH WHAT WAS CARTER STREET.

AND WHEN WE VACATED THE, UM, CARTER STREET, WE CREATED A UTILITY EASEMENT DEDICATED TO THE TOWN, WHICH REALLY CREATES A 30, 35 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.

THAT'S TOWN EASEMENT THAT TAKES IN THE 20 FOOT STREET.

SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S ADDITIONAL EASEMENT FOR THE TOWN DOWN THE ROAD OF THERE THEY COME.

THEY FIND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH ACCESS THERE.

JUST ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. BROGAN, UM, IN THIS, UM, ROAD PLAN THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING TO ZONING, UM, IS THAT GOING TO INCLUDE CURB AND GUTTER ON THAT AS WELL? UH, THERE, THERE HAD, AND THERE WAS NO CURB AND GUTTER PROPOSED AT THIS TIME, BUT IF WE FIND THAT IT IS, UM, A REQUIREMENT OR IF IT MAKES A BETTER DRAINAGE SITUATION, THEN WE'RE ALL, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH IT IS, IS THE STORMWATER RUNOFF AND, UM, AND DIRECTING IT TO, UM, TO A STORM DRAIN SOMEWHERES.

UM, CAUSE I KNOW THE PEOPLE WITH THE OTHER FOUR THAT WERE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, UM, THEY WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE STORM STORM WATER.

AND, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BECOME A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, BY ADDING THESE OTHER SIX.

SO, UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND, UM, CURB GUTTER AND, AND DEFINITELY A STORM WATER PLAN, UM, TO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE FOR.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES WHEN WE DO THESE PLOT PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON EXISTING LIGHTS WERE REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING CODE TO CREATE A POSITIVE DRAINAGE AWAY FROM THE STRUCTURE AND NOT TOWARD JOINING STRUCTURES.

AND WHAT WE USUALLY DO IS CREATE SWALES OR WHAT, WHEREVER WE NEED TO DO TO DIVERT THE DRAINAGE AND THEN GO INTO THE NATURAL DRAIN OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH DRAINS KIND OF SHEET FLOW ACROSS THE PROPERTY, KIND OF SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST AND FLOWS INTO, UH, UH, AN OLD ALLEY TOWN ALLEY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DIVERTING THE WATER.

NOW WE'RE DIVERTING AWAY FROM THE TOWNHOUSES AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORING LOTS AND GOING BACK INTO THE EXISTING DRAINAGE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THE APP, SORRY, I'M NOT JUMPING IN THAT THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSING.

I KNOW THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WAS A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, BELIEVE IN THE TOWN, THIS WAS ON STEEL STREET THAT BACKED UP TO THE PROPERTY.

THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THEY WERE GETTING A LOT OF WATER IN THEIR YARD.

NOW WE'LL SAY AT THAT TIME, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF WATER IN THEIR YARD OVER THOSE FEW DAYS, BUT, UM, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND, AND I BELIEVE SO, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A STRONGER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SILK FENCE THAT YOU MIGHT CALL IT.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT FOR RIGHT NOW AND THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

YEAH.

THE PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SILT FENCE STAYS MAINTAINED.

AND IF WE CASE WE GET ANOTHER, CAUSE I THINK WE GOT WHAT SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS OR SO TO.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY, THERE'S GOING TO BE MAIN MAINTENANCE ON THE SILT FENCE AND THEN ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE DRAINAGE'S, THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME.

UM, AND THAT'S

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BEEN THE PROCESS ON ALL EXISTING, LOTS OF RECORD FOR, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

NO, THAT THERE WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER MANY ISSUES EVER ABOUT OFFSITE RUNOFF ON OTHER PROPERTIES WHERE YOU'RE GOING INTO THE NATURAL DRAINAGE.

SOME LOTS ARE NATURALLY, UM, SITUATED WHERE THE WATER FLOWS BACK TO THE STREET WHERE THERE'S EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER AND OTHER STORE THAT, AND IN THIS CASE FLOWS TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

BUT, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY IN MY EXPERIENCE, UH, LONG-TERM ISSUES WITH EXISTING, LOTS OF RECORDS BEING IMPROVED.

I JUST, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.

UM, UM, IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED MOTION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US WITH, UH, SEVERAL, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS IN ORDER TO REACH UP AND RE IN ORDER TO REACH AN APPROVAL OF THIS, UM, WAS PLANNING COMMISSION, ARE THEY COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS? DO THEY, THOSE MEET EVERYTHING? UM, JUST IN CASE EVERYONE KNOWS, I SPENT FOUR YEARS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, SO IT MEANS A LOT TO ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE VERY COMFORTABLE.

UM, I KNOW THEY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND WORK INTO WHAT THEY DO, UM, UH, DEDICATED CITIZENS.

SO I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU THAT IN THIS STATEMENTS HERE, THERE'S FOUR CONDITIONS TO THOSE FOUR CONDITIONS.

IF THOSE ARE MATT, DO WE THEN HAVE A WAY FORWARD FOR THIS? SO I DID SPEAK WITH A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY, AND THEY STATED THAT IF THESE CONDITIONS ARE I GUESS, APPROVED, UM, THAT THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THIS ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEIR CONCERN IS SO MUCH, UM, THE WIDTH OF IT.

IT'S JUST THAT WE NEED A STAFF TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT.

AND I NEED SUFFICIENT PLANS TO ENSURE THAT THIS NEW ROAD HAS THE APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, SUB-BASE PAVEMENT DEPTHS, UH, PROPER TIE INS TO THE EXISTING ROADS, UM, AND THAT IT'S JUST BUILT TO THE PROPER STANDARDS.

AND SO WITHOUT SEEING THOSE PLANS BEFORE I CAN'T, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR STAFF AND FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

MR. BROGAN, IT DOES ANYBODY ELSE ON THE DICE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. BROGAN? NO.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE HANGING AROUND, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

CAUSE WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MS. VICE.

SORRY, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY.

SO, UM, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY CHRIS HOLLOWAY CONSTRUCTION FOR A NEW NON DEDICATED PRIVATE STREET AND THE STEEL SUBDIVISION TO SERVICE PARCELS TAX MAP NUMBER 28, 7 DASH 15 DASH THREE DASH 5 8 1 5 8 2 5 8 3 5 8 4 5 8 5 AND 5 86 LOCATED NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF BEATON LANE WITH CARTER STREET CONTINGENT UPON THE FAR, THE FOLLOWING ONE APPROVAL OF THE PRIVATE DRIVE PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

SO LOTS OF ILLEGAL ROAD FRONTAGE TO APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PLANS AS PART OF THE NEW SUBDIVISION PLAN.

THREE APPLICANT DECIDES ON THE EXACT NAME OF THE PROPOSED STREET NAME WRITER, BENSON LANE, OR COURT FOUR APPLICANT PROVIDES STAFF WITH A COPY OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO BE DISCLOSED TO THE BUYERS OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A FINAL COMPLIANCE CERTIFICATE.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION NOW FOR COUNCIL.

SO I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A PROCESS KIND OF BREAK DOWN AND, UH, MR. BROGAN MENTIONED THAT A LITTLE BIT AND I'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT IN OUR WORK SESSION AS WELL.

UM, I SENT AN EMAIL A FEW DAYS AGO ASKING IF I COULD GET A COPY OF IF THERE WAS A REPORT DONE.

I UNDERSTAND PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED FOR SOME KIND OF EXPLANATION OF WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PROCESS.

I KNOW THAT IT WAS RAISED AS HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? UM, I'M CURIOUS IF I CAN GET A COPY OF THAT REPORT.

I GUESS I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE.

IS THAT SOMETHING I CAN GET A COPY OF? I HAVE TO FURNISH THE REPORT TO MR. NAPIER WHO WILL THEN TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, DOUG CONNECT, I ANTICIPATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL FURNISH THAT REPORT TO TOWN COUNCIL.

I THINK THEY WILL.

WE'LL DO IT FURNISH THE REPORT TO TOWN COUNCIL.

YES.

AND IF THEY DON'T FURNISH THAT REPORT, WHAT I HAVE TO REQUEST MY OWN REPORT FOR TOWN COUNCIL, OR HOW DID THAT WORK? I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPECTS TO FURNISH A COPY TO TOWN COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT'S THEIR INTENT.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES.

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I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KIND OF GREW UP ON THAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY BABY STORE WAS ON PARKVIEW DRIVE AND SO WE WERE THERE, UM, WHEN MY PARENTS WERE WORKING, UH, AND PRIOR TO THIS, BEFORE CHRIS GOT THERE, IT HAD KIND OF BECOME LIKE AN ILLEGAL DUMP SITE.

THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRASH AND STUFF LIKE THIS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DESPERATELY NEED HOUSING.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, UH, JOE ASKED THE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK I HAVE, BUT WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL, UM, WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BEFORE US, UM, DOES THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL LEAVE? ANY ISSUES OUTSTANDING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROPER COMPLETION OF THIS ISSUE IN YOUR VIEW? UM, LAUREN, ARE YOU, UH, ARE YOU ASKING THAT IT'D BE MORE SPECIFIC? NO.

WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF WE APPROVE THAT, IF WE APPROVE THIS, WOULD THAT LEAVE ANYTHING THAT, THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED? MY UNDERSTAND, LOOKING AT THIS, I, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UM, ACTUALLY BE ADDRESSING ALL THE ISSUES THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RAISED, UM, BY GIVING YOU ENOUGH BREATHING SPACE TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS THAT GOT, UM, YOU KNOW, SIDEWAYS ON US.

UM, ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANYTHING, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS MISS MISSING IN YOUR, IN YOUR OPINION NOW? I THINK ONCE STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY REVIEW THE PLANS AND WE GET SUFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, SUFFICIENTLY DETAILED PLANS.

I DON'T SEE US HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

ONCE WE GET THOSE PLANS, THEY WILL BE SENT OUT TO, UM, OUR, UM, ENGINEER THAT WE HAVE ON, I GUESS, CONTRACT, UH, FOR REVIEW AND STAFF WILL BE REVIEWING THEM.

THERE WILL BE A NEW REVIEW WITH PUBLIC WORKS WITH THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT.

AND WE CAN EVEN SEND THAT OVER TO THE FIRE MARSHALL FOR REVIEW SO THAT WE CAN GET, UH, AN ACTUAL DETERMINATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SUFFICIENT ROOM FOR AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO MANEUVER.

SO WE CAN DO THAT AS PART OF THIS CONDITION.

SO I THINK THESE ARE SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS CONCERNS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I WAS JUST GONNA, UH, SHARE WITH, UH, EVERYONE SOME INFORMATION, UM, WHEN THIS, I WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND I COULD, UM, TRY TO THINK ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.

AND THEN, UM, AND SO I KIND OF WENT ON A MISSION MYSELF TO TRY TO FIND OUT AS MUCH INFORMATION I COULD AS WELL.

SO I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD AND ANSWERS THAT I GOT, UM, AND THEN MAYBE EVEN A FEW THAT WE, WE STILL MIGHT NEED.

UM, I KNOW THAT I VISITED THE SITE SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, UM, WITH TOWN STAFF, LAUREN AND CHRIS BROCK AT, UM, VISITED WITH ME ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

UM, AND SO THE TURNAROUND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, I THINK SAFETY IS DEFINITELY A TOP PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US.

AND, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS ONCE I VISITED TO ME, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH OF A TURNAROUND FROM SCOTT ONTO CARTER CARTER ON TO SCOTT.

UM, BUT I, UM, REQUESTED A FRIEND OF MINE.

WHO'S A PAID FIREFIGHTER AND WE BOTH WENT TO THE SITE AND I HAD HIM LOOK AT IT HIMSELF.

UM, AND HE FELT LIKE IT WOULD NOT BE IMPOSSIBLE TO, UM, TO REACH THAT SITE.

UH, HE MENTIONED SOME THINGS ABOUT TOWNHOUSES USUALLY REQUIRE A LADDER TRUCK BECAUSE THE IDEA OF THE SECOND STORY AND IF ONE OF THE MIDDLE TOWNHOUSES WERE TO, UM, TO, TO BE ON FIRE, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO REACH THE MIDDLE.

AND SO THE LADDER TRUCK, I GUESS, JOE, THE LADDERS ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, RIGHT.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO SPIN AROUND.

AND LIKE I SAID, HE, HE SAID THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TIGHTER SPOTS AROUND TOWN.

SO HE FELT LIKE THAT WAS NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

UM, COULD BACK IN IF NEED BE.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A HYDRANT BECAUSE AT THE TIME I WAS THINKING THE ONLY HYDRANT WAS ON STEEL STREET, BUT ACTUALLY WHEN I LEFT THERE, THERE'S A, AND AT THE END OF SCOTT STREET, AND YOU SAID THAT'S ABOUT A 70 FOOT, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING FROM LIKE SCOTT STREETS, ABOUT 380 FEET, SORRY.

70 WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

UM, ONE THING THAT I DISCUSSED WITH HIM AND I ACTUALLY SHARED THAT WITH LAUREN EARLIER TODAY IS THAT IF WE REALLY WANTED A MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWER, HE SUGGESTED THAT WE COULD ASK THE FIRE MARSHALL TO COME AND VISIT THE SITE.

AND BASICALLY IT'D BE MORE AN OFFICIAL LIKE, YES, EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS

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IS, UM, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM WITH EMERGENT EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING THERE.

AND SO I SUGGESTED THAT, UM, TO MITSUBISHI AND WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ON FUTURE, UM, APPLICATIONS, IF THERE'S EVER A QUESTION ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES, UM, PRA THE PRIVATE DRIVE, UH, LET'S SEE, STAFF SEEMS OKAY WITH IT.

IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET, UM, MR. GILLESPIE MENTIONED RUNOFF.

THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS WONDERING, LIKE, WHERE WILL IT GO? BECAUSE I'D WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE NEIGHBORS HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN THAT, UM, IS GOING TO BE TURNED IN.

SO, AND ALSO A BIG THING FOR ME WAS LIKE, HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE CURRENT, UM, RESIDENTS ON CARTER STREET? WE WERE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE THERE, CAUSE I HAD ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO TOWN STAFF.

AND AT FIRST I WAS TOLD THAT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WOULD NOT RECEIVE ONCE THAT CHANGED INTO THE PRIVATE STREET, THAT THEY WOULD NOT GET ROAD MAINTENANCE OR, UM, SNOW REMOVAL.

AND THEN I WOULD, THEY WERE, THEY CORRECTED THAT AND SAID, YES, THEY WOULD.

AND I, THAT I FELT LIKE THEY SHOULD NOT, UM, IT SHOULDN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANYTHING FOR THEM.

AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO, THAT'S GOING TO BE OKAY.

AND THE TRASH PICKUP, IF THEY CHOOSE, COULD BE DOING THAT.

UM, THE ONE THING WE MENTIONED HERE IS ABOUT THAT THEY MENTIONED NEW STREETS WOULD, UM, BEAR THE NAME OF THE EXISTING STREET.

AND SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I KEPT WONDERING IS, IS THERE REALLY A GOOD REASON TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE STREET? AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PART OF CARTER STREET WOULD STAY CARTER AND THEN THE REST OF THE STREET WOULD BEAR THIS NEW NAME.

IS THAT THE IDEA, IS THAT HOW YOU, YOUR PERCEPTION IS? UM, AND I ONLY ASKED THAT BECAUSE IF I WERE THE DUPLEX ON CARTER STREET, I DON'T KNOW HOW HAPPY I'D BE.

IF I SUDDENLY HAVE TO CHANGE MY ADDRESS TO SOMEBODY TO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT I WAS JUST WONDERING.

YEAH.

SO THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GONE OVER THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UM, I THINK THE, THERE WASN'T REALLY A PLAN TO CHANGE THE NAME, THE STREET THAT DIDN'T REALLY COME UP IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

SO IT WAS KIND OF ASSUMED THAT THAT WOULD STAY CARTER STREET, BUT IF IT GETS TO A SEARCH SITUATION WHERE CARTER STAYS THE SAME TO THE DUPLEX AND THEN THE NEW STREET TAKE OFF FROM THERE WITH A, WITH ANOTHER NAME, I MEAN, WHATEVER THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE'RE HAPPY.

YEAH.

I JUST WAS IN MY HEAD, I WAS THINKING EVEN AS THAT CAN BE CONFUSING FOR EMS TO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S CARTER AND THESE ARE THESE TWO HOUSES AND THEN THE NEXT SIX OR A DIFFERENT STREET NAME.

SO THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT POPPED UP IN MY HEAD.

SO SORRY, STAFF ISSUED ADDRESSES, UM, UM, JULY 30TH FOR CARTER STREET.

UM, AT THIS POINT, IF WE GO BACK, THE DUPLEXES WILL STILL WERE BAIN CARTER STREET.

THEY WILL HAVE A CARTER STREET ADDRESS.

UM, THE APPLICANT EXPRESSED THAT HE HAS DECIDED THAT HE WOULD LIKE IT NAMED RYDER BENSON LANE, UM, SPECIFICALLY.

SO THEN ALL OF THE TOWNHOUSES WOULD HAVE TO GET AS PART OF THIS NEW REVIEW THAT WE WOULD BE CONDUCTING, UM, ISSUED NEW ADDRESSES.

SO ONLY THE TOWNHOMES WOULD BE RIGHT OR BENSON LANE AND THEY WOULD GET ADDRESS ACCORDINGLY, BUT THE DUPLEX WILL REMAIN CARTER STREET BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF CARTER STREET WAS NOT VACATED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, THE OTHER THING, I JUST ONE, I KNOW THEY TALKED ABOUT DEED RESTRICTIONS AND I JUST WANT TO, I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE GOING TO COME IN AS PART OF HIS PLAN, BECAUSE I JUST THINK OF THE NEW RESIDENTS.

WE JUST, THE MINUTE THERE'S SNOW AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T COME IN AND CLEAR THEIR STREET AND THEY CALL THE TOWN COMPLAINING THAT THE TOWN'S NOT COMING TO CLEAR THEIR STREET.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY ARE FULLY AWARE THAT THAT IT'S A PRIVATE STREET AND SOMEBODY ELSE HAS THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

THAT, THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME.

UM, AND JUST, I ASSUME IF ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS ARE GOING TO BE MET, THEN ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD SIGN OFF ON IT AND WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

UM, THIS IS VICE MAYOR, UM, STEVEN, UM, LEE, AND YOU HAD TALKED EARLIER ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WOULD KIND OF HIT OFF SOME OF THESE ISSUES AS FAR AS STORMWATER AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

STEVEN, I THINK WE NEED SOME OF THESE THINGS AS A COUNCIL, UM, TO APPROVE BEFORE WE DO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

STEVEN,

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT POLICE? THANK YOU.

UH, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, I OBVIOUSLY I'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THIS MAY GET SIDEWAYS AND SOME OF THE TIMES THE DIFFICULTY WITH A VERY LEAN STAFF ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT MAKING DECISIONS AND PROCESSES EVERY DAY.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN, HE'S, HE'S BIG ON PROCESSES AS WELL.

AND WHENEVER WE GET IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS AND, AND STAFF, WE DO STRUGGLE WITH MAKING DECISIONS.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT JUST CITY-WIDE.

I WANT TO RECAP ON SOME OF THE STUFF THE CHALLENGES STAFF HAS HAVING, I'M NOT HERE TO POINT FINGERS AT NO ONE AND PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PRIOR TOWN MANAGERS.

BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR US TO KIND OF REFLECT ON THE GOOD WORK THAT OUR STAFF THEY DO EVERY DAY AND ANY DECISION THAT STAFF MAKES I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

AND I TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUS.

SO I WANT TO REFLECT ON SOME STUFF THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND HOPEFULLY AS PART OF THIS DECISION PROCESS, WE HAD NO AT THE TIME, ALTHOUGH DIRECTOR JENKINS IS CORRECT, THAT STUFF IMMEDIATELY DONE A LOT, BUT WE'D HAD NO ELECTRIC POWER SERVICE ESTIMATE PROCESS.

FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO NOTIFY CUSTOMERS OF POWER HOOKUPS, WE HAVE NO SMALL AREA PLANS OR DIRECT, OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, UH, INFIELD TOP OF DEVELOPMENT OR ANY TARGETS.

WE HAVE NO BUSINESS CHECKLIST FOR APPLICANTS OR PERMITS FOR SITE PLANS, SUP'S REZONING OR ANYTHING OF A CUSTOMER TO COME IN TO ESTABLISH HOW WE GO ABOUT GIVING THEM INFORMATION ON THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO COMPLETE IT AND STAFF TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

THE LAST TIME OUR PLANNING AND ZONING PERMIT FORM FORMS HAVE BEEN UPDATED.

IT WAS IN 2006.

WE STILL USE A 1999 LANDSCAPE AND STANDARDS.

AND MOST OF THE PLANNINGS THAT ARE IN THERE DON'T EVEN ALLOW THE SPECIES TO BE PLANTED TODAY.

WE STILL HAVE A 1998 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OVER A QUARTER OF CENTURY L THAT WE'RE WORKING OFF OF AS WELL AS THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

IF ANYONE GETS A CHANCE TO READ THE ZONING SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, I THINK ANYONE CAN TELL THAT THIS, THIS PROCESS AND HOW YOU INTERPRET IS VERY DIFFICULT.

OUR STREET STANDARDS, THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED, IT WAS 1995.

SO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE STREET STANDARDS IS AND THE PAVEMENT ROADS AND WHAT WE DO FOR FUTURE SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE NO STANDARDS TO POINT AT TO TELL US HOW THICK THE PAYMENTS SHOULD BE.

THE CURB AND GUTTER, WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THE DCI, OUR SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION, WHAT WE USE FOR OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR WATER SYSTEMS TO MONITOR OUR PLANT OPERATIONS, AS WELL AS OUR STATUS AND PROGRESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON THE LAST TIME THAT SOFTWARE WAS THAT DATE IS 1994, AND THIS IS OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE HAVE NO FLOOD PLAIN.

THE LAST ONE WAS DONE IN 1986.

OUR PARK PARKING ORDINANCE THAT THE CHIEF HAS TAKEN A LEAD ON IS JUST NOW BEING REVISED.

AND THE LAST TIME IT WAS LOOKED AT, IT WAS A 1983.

WE HAVE NO STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.

WE JUST FINISHED THE BLOOD PROGRAM POLICY AND WE'RE CAREFULLY LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT LINKS OUR BUDGET PROCESS, THAT FUNDRAISING BASING PRIORITY BASED ON LOW, MEDIUM HIGH PRIORITY.

SO I SHARE THIS BECAUSE I JUST FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW WE GO ABOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT, WE KIND OF JUST EITHER WORK WITH THE ENGINEER OR THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

AND WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT WE'RE TRYING.

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS COUNCIL ESTABLISH A GOAL WHEN I WAS FIRST HIRED NINE MONTHS AGO, TO LOOK INTO HOW WE CAN IMPROVE PROCESS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I WOULD SAY WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME AND COUNCIL SUPPORT.

SO I SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL REALIZE, AND I, I SUPPORT, UH, EVERYTHING AND ALL THE EFFORTS COUNCIL IS DOING.

I KNOW THIS IS A PRIORITY.

WE ESTABLISH OUR GOALS, BUT WHAT I WILL KNOW IS WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON ACCOMPLISHING THESE GOALS.

SO MORE DECISIVE, ACCURATE DECISIONS ARE MADE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, STEVEN.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY.

EXPRESSLY, CAN WE TAKE

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A VOTE PAID SMEAR COCKRELL? YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

WE ARE OPENING UP

[7B. Special Exception Application by Poe’s River Edge, LLC Requesting a New, Non-Dedicated Private Street at the End of Kendrick Lane (Lauren Kopishke)]

THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING AND SORRY, THIS FIRST SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION POST RIVER EDGE I'LL, I'LL SEE, REQUESTING A NEW NON-DEDICATED PRIVATE STREET AT THE END OF KENDRICK LANE.

THAT'S PRESLEY.

WOULD YOU MIND READING THE SUMMARY FORCE? ESPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BY PO'S RIVER EDGE, LLC REQUESTING A NEW NON-DEDICATED PRIVATE STREET PURSUANT TO TOWN CODE.

THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINOR SUBDIVISION PARCEL LOCATED AT THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF KENDRICK LANE PAST THE RAILROAD TRESTLE BETWEEN THE SOUTH FORK SHENANDOAH RIVER TO THE WEST AND THE NORTH FORK SOUTHERN RAILROAD TO THE EAST ZONED I TWO, WHICH STATES SUBDIVISIONS ON A NEW NON DEDICATED PRIVATE STREET MAY BE PERMITTED UPON THEIR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION BY TOWN COUNCIL.

A PRIVATE STREET IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED LOT CANNOT SATISFY A TOWN CODE, WHICH REQUIRES LOTS TO A BUD, A STREET DEDICATED TO AND ACCEPTED BY THE TOWN PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF REQUEST APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRIVATE STREET STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRIVATE STREET PROVIDED THAT NUMBER ONE, THE EXISTING VARIABLE WIDTH AND 40 FOOT RIGHT AWAY BE INCREASED TO A 55 FOOT RIGHT AWAY AND EXTENDED ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE OF PARCEL TAX MAP TO A TURNAROUND BE PROVIDED FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES ON PARCEL TAX MAC NUMBER 2 0 1 DASH THREE DASH 5 8 2 A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN BE SUBMITTED IF PARCEL TAX MAT NUMBER TWO, A ONE DASH THREE DASH 5 81 IS FURTHER SUBDIVIDED.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO HAVE ONE WILLIAM BARNETT, GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.

I'M WILLIAM BARNETT.

I RESIDE AT 1, 1, 1 5 BUCK MOUNTAIN ROAD, BENTONVILLE VIRGINIA.

UH, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, UH, IS A VERY INTERESTING PROPERTY GOOGLE WAY BACK IN THE HISTORY OF FRONT ROYAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS IN THE LATE THIRTIES AND EARLY FORTIES, UH, ESTABLISHED AS THE ALLIED CHEMICAL COMPANY LOCATION OF THE FRONT ROW, UH, CHEMICAL COMPANY TO, UH, PROVIDE CHEMICALS TO THE, TO THE AMERICAN VISCOSE PLANT.

UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY LOCATED ON KENDRICK LANE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THE 1977 FRONT ROYAL DIRECTORY, IT IS LOCATED AT FIVE 30 KENDRICK ROAD IN FRONT ROYAL.

UH, ALTHOUGH THE ROW WAS VACATED BY THE STATE, UH, IN THE 1940S, THE ROAD ORIGINALLY WAS A, UH, KENDRICK ROAD, WENT DOWN TO THE SHENANDOAH RIVER.

UH, AND, UH, AND THEN IT WAS A, IT WAS A FORD THAT WENT ACROSS THE RIVER.

AND SO FOR CENTURIES, THE ROAD WAS, UH, EXTENDED ACROSS THE RIVER AS A FORD AND IT CONNECTS WITH THIS PROPERTY.

AND SO WHAT THE APPLICANTS ARE DOING TODAY IS TO ESTABLISH A PRIVATE ROAD SO THAT IT WILL FIT INTO THE FRONT ROYAL CODE, WHICH REQUIRES A, ANY PROPERTY SUBDIVISIONS OF PROPERTY TO BE, UH, ON A ROAD OR A STREET.

SO THIS WOULD BE COME A PRIVATE ROAD, UH, OR PRIVATE STREET.

AND, UH, THE, IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE THING THAT W AND IN REAL ESTATE, THE FIRST THING WE LEARNED IN REAL ESTATE IS THAT THAT REAL ESTATE IS VALUABLE AND SCARCE AND THAT, UH, IT HAS VALUE.

AND SO IF THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A PUBLIC ROAD TO FIT IN WITH FRONT ROW CODE, THEN IT CANNOT BE FURTHER USED.

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IT CANNOT BE FURTHER DEVELOPED.

AND IN THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF REAL ESTATE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE THING IS THAT YOU WANT PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ITS HIGHEST VALUE AND ITS HIGHEST YOUTHS FULLNESS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO APPROVE THIS BECAUSE THIS WILL ALLOW THIS PROPERTY TO BE USED.

OTHERWISE IT WILL BE X, IT WILL BE ISOLATED.

IT WILL BE, UH, BORDERED OFF AND, AND HAVE NO USE FOR FOREVER.

AND THAT IS A SHAME.

UH, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN REAL ESTATE IS NOT WHAT WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, AND SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO, UH, WE HAVE VERY, VERY LITTLE, UH, INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY AVAILABLE IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND IN THE COUNTY OF WARREN.

THERE IT IS THERE.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY LITTLE BIT OF IT.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN FRONT ROYAL BE ALLOWED TO BE DEVELOPED AND USE TO ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MS. PERSONALLY, THERE IS THERE NO ONE ELSE STAND UP? NO, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK JOE BERGEN AGAIN? UM, I COME BEFORE YOU AS A PROJECT SURVEYOR NOT ONLY THE PROJECT SURVEYOR, BUT ONE OF THE OWNERS OF PO RIVER RIDGE LLC.

UM, SO WE, I THINK YOU'VE READ IN THE PACKET THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO SUBDIVIDE A 10 ACRE LOT.

UH, WE OWN 74 ACRES.

UM, WE FRONT, UH, AROUND A HALF A MILE ON THE SHENANDOAH RIVER, WE JOINED THE AZTEC SUPERFUND SITE AND WHAT USED TO BE OUR FRONTAGE ON KENDRICK FORD ROAD GOT ABANDONED IN 1944 BY V DOT COMMONWEALTH, VIRGINIA.

SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO SUBDIVIDE A 10 ACRE LOT ON A PRIVATE STREET.

UH, WE HAVE ONE, UH, PARCEL THAT WE SOLD.

THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY IN TWO PARCELS.

UH, WE SOLD THE FOUR ACRE LOT TO ROW, UH, RUSTIC FURNITURE, RUSTIC RESTAURANT FURNITURE.

I BELIEVE IT IS.

UH, SO THEY'RE OPERATING BACK THERE ON A PRIVATE STREET BASICALLY BECAUSE, UM, OUR PROPERTY, UH, WRAPS AROUND THE, UM, UM, OVER INDUSTRIAL PARK.

SO WE ONLY PIPESTEM PARCEL LAND PARALLEL WITH THE RAILROAD.

THAT IS OUR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AFTER THE, UM, THE HIGHWAY WAS, UH, ABANDONED.

UM, SO WE'VE ADDRESSED THE PLANNING COMMENTS OR FOR FIND COMMISSION.

WE WIDENED THE RIGHT OF WAY.

I, I RE I SUBMITTED A REVISED, A MINOR SUBDIVISION PLAT.

WE'VE WIDENED THE RIGHT AWAY TO 55 FEET ON THE SOUTH END.

UH, WE EXTENDED THE 55 FOOT RIGHT AWAY ALONG THE, UM, EAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED 10 ACRE, LOT TO THE NORTH ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A 55 FOOT RADIUS TURN AROUND.

CUL-DE-SAC ON THE 10 ACRE LOT.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? IF ANY, COME UP, WE'LL GRAB IT FROM THE AUDIO YOU'LL BE HANGING OUT, I GUESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, IF NO ONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK, UM, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL, MS. VICE MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY POSE RIVER EDGE, LLC FOR A NEW NON DEDICATED PRIVATE LOOK, PRIVATE LOCATED AT THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF KENDRICK LANE PAST THE RAILROAD TRESTLE BETWEEN THE SOUTH FORTUNATE OR RIVER TO THE WEST AND THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILROAD TO THE EAST CONTINUED UPON THE FOLLOWING ONE, THE EXISTING VARIABLE WITH AND 40 FOOT RIGHT AWAY BE INCREASED TO A 55 FOOT RIGHT AWAY AND EXTENDED ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE OF PARCEL TAX MAP 21 DASH THREE DASH 5 8 1 2 A TURNAROUND BE PROVIDED FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES ON PARCEL TAX MAP.

NUMBER 28, 1 DASH THREE DASH 5 8 2 3 A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND BE SUBMITTED AT PARCEL TAX MAP 21 DASH THREE DASH 5 81 IS FURTHER SUBDIVIDED SECOND.

OKAY.

HEARING A MOTION AND A SECOND, I'M GOING TO, UM, OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION

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AND LAUREN, IF THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO ANY OF THIS THAT MAYBE WE JUST MAKING SURE OR YOU GUYS CAN JUST THROW QUESTIONS AT HER? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

THE APPLICANT STATED THAT HE SUBMITTED THE REVISED SUBDIVISION PLAN AND THAT DID ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD.

ANYBODY I'M JUST EXCITED TO SEE LIKE THE LAND BEING USED AND ANOTHER GOOD PROJECTS GOING ON IN TOWN.

THANK YOU.

I VISITED THE SITE AS WELL.

ALTHOUGH YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.

WE, I GREW UP IN BISCOE CITY, BUT, UM, AS CHRIS AND LAURA COULD SAY, AS I WAS DRIVING, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN ALL THIS BACK HERE BEFORE, BUT, UM, SO, UH, UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, UM, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND MR. BARNETT, YOU COULD LIKE, YOU COULD SELL YOURSELF.

HE WAS JUST ALL ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

SO ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD TO THE COUNTY? YES, MRS. MAYER.

I WOULD ALSO LOOK TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS, UM, THAT IS, UH, A GREAT SPOT.

AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT MS. COCKRELL WAS GIGGLING ABOUT.

AND MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT AS A TEENAGER, THAT WAS AN AWESOME PARTY SPOT NOTE.

I SAID I'D NEVER BEEN THERE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANT YOU TO SAY, UH, SO FORMER MAYOR, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I WENT FOR LIKE A FOUR HOUR TOUR, FRONT ROYAL.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST SPOTS WE VISITED WHEN I WENT TO LOOK AT THE AZTEC SITE.

AND HE WAS LIKE, MR. POLO OWNS ALL THIS BACK HERE.

SO I KNEW EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS WHEN THIS CAME UP.

AND SO, LIKE I SAID, VERY EXCITED TO SEE HOW THIS TURNS OUT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

BORING.

NEW, MORE DISCUSSION.

SHALL WE TAKE A VOTE? YES.

VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM,

[7C. Special Use Permit by Allen Walters Requesting to Construct a New Single-Family Dwelling on a NonConforming Lot of Record on Warren Avenue (Lauren Kopishke)]

OUR LAST, NOPE, NOPE.

SECOND.

THE LAST, SORRY.

I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

UM, OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BY ALAN WALTERS REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON A NON-CONFORMING LOT OF RECORD ON WARREN AVENUE, MS. PRESLEY, IF YOU'LL READ THAT SUMMARY FOR US, COUNSEL'S REQUESTED TO PREVIOUS SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY ALAN WALTERS REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON A NON-CONFORMING LOT OF RECORD ZONED R ONE LOCATED NORTH OF EAST 13TH STREET BETWEEN 1328 AND 1320 WARREN AVENUE APPROVAL FOR CONSTRUCTION BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT MUST BE GRANTED BY COUNCIL PURSUANT TO TOWN CODE BECAUSE THE LOT WITH ITS LESS THAN 80% OF THE REQUIRED MINIMUM PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT CONTINGENT UPON NUMBER ONE, THE HOUSE PLAN MAY BE MODIFIED, PROVIDED THAT THE FINISHED FLOOR AREAS SHALL NOT BE REDUCED TO LESS THAN 1,234 SQUARE FEET INTO TO THE FACADE AND MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE HOME MUST FRONT WARREN AVENUE.

OKAY.

UM, MS. PRESLEY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.

OKAY.

ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, OKAY.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.

MS. VICE MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY ALAN WALTERS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON A NON-CONFORMING A LOT OF RECORD LOCATED NORTH OF EAST 13TH STREET BETWEEN 1328 AND 1320 WARREN AVENUE CONTINGENT UPON THE FOLLOWING ONE.

THE HEALTH PLAN MAY BE MODIFIED, PROVIDED THAT THE FINISHED FLOOR AREA SHALL NOT BE REDUCED TO LESS THAN 1,234 SQUARE FEET, UH, TO THE FACADE AND MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE HOME MUST FRONT WARREN AVENUE.

OKAY.

HAVING A MOTION AND A SECOND, I'M GOING TO NOW OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE ANOTHER HOUSE.

IT'S LIKE THE THEME FOR THE EVENING.

UM, WHEN A COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AS I WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, MEETING WHERE THIS WAS DISCUSSED AND, AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAND AND TAXES PAID IN THE PAST.

AND I JUST DID WANT TO MENTION THAT, UM, I ASKED ABOUT THAT RESEARCHED A LITTLE BIT, AND I WAS TOLD THAT NO TAXES HAVE BEEN PAID ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR AT LEAST 10 TO 20 YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHY IT WENT TO AUCTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO IN CASE THAT, UM, IN CASE THAT WAS STILL A CONCERN FROM PEOPLE, UM, WE DID KIND OF, KIND OF CHECK INTO THAT.

UM,

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THE PROPOSED HOME, IT SEEMS COMPARABLE FOR THE OTHER HOMES IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND, UH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER? I DID WANT TO COMMENT THAT I WAS GLAD THAT WE HAD PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT FOR EACH OF THESE APPLICATIONS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I KNOW MR. WALTERS IN, IN, UM, THE AUDIENCE WITH US.

AND SO I JUST THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE US AND WE HAVE QUESTIONS, IF SOMEBODY IS HERE TO ANSWER THEM, UM, IT IT'S A RELIEF TO US AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO TRACK DOWN THE ANSWERS THOUGH.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT, UM, THEY'VE ATTENDED.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.

IT'S MAYOR COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSED.

AND

[7D. Ordinance Amendments to Town Code Chapter 12-1 and 70-23 to Remove the Town’s Dusk-toDawn Light Program (David Jenkins)]

THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT IS SORRY.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE ORDINANCE, UH, FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN CODE CHAPTERS, 12 DASH ONE AND 70 DASH 23 TO REMOVE THE TOWNS, DUSK TO DAWN LIGHT PROGRAM.

AND MS. PRESSLEY IS GOING TO READ THAT SHORT SUMMARY VOICE COUNSEL'S REQUEST TO, TO APPROVE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, TO TOWN CODE CHAPTERS, 12 DASH ONE AND 70 DASH 23 D TO REMOVE THE FEES AND CHARGES FOR INSTALLATION OF POLES, FOR DUST TO DAWN LIGHTS AS PRESENTED IF APPROVED THE DUSTED ONLINE PROGRAM WILL BE PHASED OUT.

THOSE WITH EXISTING DUSK TO DAWN LIGHTS ON THEIR PROPERTY WILL STAY UNTIL THE REQUEST IS RECEIVED TO REMOVE THEM FROM THEIR PROPERTY.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP JUST BEING, YOU JUMPED RIGHT ON THAT.

LINCOLN DOES ANYONE ELSE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE DUSK TO DAWN PROGRAM? OKAY, SO I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL APPROVE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO TOWN CODE CHAPTERS, 12 DASH ONE AND 70 DASH 23 DOT D TO REMOVE THE FEES AND CHARGES FOR INSTALLATION OF POLES FOR DUSTED ON LIGHTS AS PRESENTED SECOND.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A EMOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

SO THIS GOES BACK TO THAT DISCUSSION.

WE HAD MANY WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE LIGHT IN.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS, THIS IS ABOUT, AND UM, YOU JUST BRING UP A GOOD POINT.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE, DOES ANYBODY FEEL THAT THERE'S AN, THAT WE NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS ORDINANCE OR, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS I CAN JUST CATCH.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? I SMEAR COCKRELL.

YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE, COUNCILMAN LILLY COUNSELING.

FADDEN COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

[8. PUBLIC COMMENTS (COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS)]

OKAY.

THE NEXT PART OF OUR MEETING OR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THESE WOULD BE COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO MS. PRESLEY HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE HAVE ONE CRAIG ANDERSON.

OKAY.

GOOD AGENT CRAIG ANDERSON ONE 10 SUNSET LANE AND LINDEN.

I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 30 YEARS.

I'M NOT A TOWN RESIDENT, BUT APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME KNOW.

LET ME TALK AND LISTENING TO ME.

UH, I WAS RECENTLY AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND, UH, AND I POINTED OUT THAT FROM MY RECENT TRIP TO DC, I SAW HOW POWERFUL, UH, THAT BLM SQUARE WAS.

AND I SAW THAT THE MAYOR HAD GIVEN HERSELF THE POWER TO DECLARE BLM SQUARE, NOTHING BUT BLM SIGNS EVERYWHERE.

AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN, UH, AND, AND, UM, WHITE PRIVILEGE AND CRT AND TRANS RIGHTS AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING AMERICA, YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER TO DECLARE BLACK LIVES SQUARE AT OUR GAZEBO AREA.

OR IF YOU THINK MAYBE THAT'S A BUNCH OF GARBAGE, YOU CAN DECLARE ALL LIVES MATTER.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE UNDER A MAJOR ASSAULT FROM COMMUNIST BLACK LIVES MATTER ADMITS THEY ARE TRAINED MARXIST.

UH, PATRICE CULLER SAYS IN A STATEMENT, WE ARE TRAINED MARXIST.

THE THING THAT GETS ME THE MOST, THEY WANT THE DISRUPTION OF THE NUCLEAR FAMILY.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WE NEED TO RESIST THAT.

WE NEED TO RESIST THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I SUGGESTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR A WARREN COUNTY THAT MAYBE AN ANTICOMMUNIST ZONE, OR MAYBE

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A WARREN AIN'T WOKE, UH, SELL THE T-SHIRT BE ACTIVE.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE, UH, GEORGE FLOYD, UH, CELEBRATION ON THE BRIDGE.

AND, UM, AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN PEOPLE UP THERE ON THE GAZEBO HOLLERING, NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE SPEW AND COMMUNISM.

AND WE, WE GOTTA RESIST THAT COMMUNISM, PLEASE.

SO THINK ABOUT IT.

COURT, TALK WITH PEOPLE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MOST OF US, WHEN WE SAID PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THAT FLAG, WE MEANT IT.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TORN APART, THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS GOING TO BE TORN APART.

IT WILL BE BY SOMEBODY LIKE BLM AND ANTIFA.

SO, UM, YUP.

CONSIDER IT THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MS. PRESLEY? NO, WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.

THOMAS SERRA, 35 SHANDO SHORES ROAD, FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA.

JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

I DID THIS AS FIRST TIME I'VE EVER DONE THIS.

AS FAR AS WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY ON A POST ON FACEBOOK, THERE WAS A PERSON WHO POSTED, UM, ON A READ, UH, SAYS, IF YOU NEED RELIGION OF A MORAL CENTER, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON, BUT A FRIGHTENED ONE.

THERE WAS 19 PEOPLE YOU'RE LIKE THERE LOVED IT.

AND, UH, I'M NOT CALLING YOU OUT LATASHA, BUT YOU GAVE OUT A LOVE SIGN AND I CAN TELL YOU I'M NOT FRIGHTENED.

UH, JESUS CHRIST, MY LORD AND SAVIOR.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED AS MARTYRS OVER THE CENTURIES.

THEY'VE BEEN BEHEADED, TORTURED, FRIED AT THE STAKES BURN AT THE STAKES FOR CHRIST.

AND WE'RE NOT AFRAID.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

UM, I TOO AM A CHRISTIAN.

I, IT W THEY, THE COMMENT WAS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE RELIGION TO HAVE A MORAL STANCE AND TO KNOW, LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T BORN INTO CHRISTIAN HOUSEHOLDS WHO KNOW THAT THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT.

THERE'S PEOPLE BURN IN BUDDHIST HOUSEHOLD.

SO YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT.

THERE'S PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALL RELIGIONS.

AND, UM, I CHOOSE, UM, WHILE I'M A CHRISTIAN, I CHOOSE TO LOVE ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE AFFILIATED WITH THE ORIGINAL LIJUN OR THEY'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH A RELIGION.

AND WHILE I'M TALKING, I FOUND THE OTHER COMMENT, HIGHLY OFFENSIVE.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD USE OUR GAZEBO FOR ANY POLITICAL MOTIVATION AND RENAME IT.

ANYTHING AT ALL.

IT'S THE COMMUNITY SPACE.

LET'S LEAVE IT A COMMUNITY SPACE.

UM, SOME OF WHAT WAS SAID WAS INCORRECT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND FACT CHECK.

UM, BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

AND I CHOOSE TO TRY NOT TO IS IN REGARDS TO RELIGION AND THINGS, DIVIDE PEOPLE UP BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE CHRISTIAN.

I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE HINDU.

I HAVE FRIENDS WHO WERE MUSLIM, ALL OF WHICH HAVE COME TO MY HOUSE, HAD DINNER TOGETHER, AND WE HAD NO ARGUMENTS AND NO ISSUES.

SO I JUST CHOOSE TO LOVE PEOPLE, PERIOD.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY.

UM,

[9a. Report of Town Manager]

THE NEXT SECTION IS ABOUT REPORTS AND THE FIRST ONE UP IS THE REPORT OF THE TOWN MANAGER.

MR. X, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS? ALL I HAVE TO SHARE IS ON OCTOBER 11TH, UH, WE'LL BE CLOSED AND CELEBRATION OF COLUMBUS DAY.

UH, BUT OUR 24 7 OPERATIONS WILL STILL BE OPEN AND THEREFORE ON OCTOBER 12TH, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL HAVE OUR, OUR COUNCIL WORK SESSION AT 7:00 PM AT TOWN HALL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR VICE MAYOR.

SURE.

[9b. Report of Councilmembers]

UM, AT THIS POINT, AND THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REPORT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH ANYBODY, ANYBODY WANT TO OFFER ANYTHING? I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT CAME UP EARLIER.

UM, I MENTIONED THAT I LIKE PROCESSES.

I REALLY DO.

UM, SO I WANT TO SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THINGS THAT, UM, ARE GOING ON IN OUR TOWN.

I THINK THAT THE WAY FORWARD FOR FRONT ROYAL IS FOLLOWING BETTER PROCESSES, IMPROVING PROCESSES, FOLLOWING OUR LAWS, FOLLOWING OUR RULES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWED PROPERLY.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR FUTURE LIES, I DON'T THINK.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STEVEN GAVE ME RIGHT BEFORE HERE, WHICH I THINK IS AWESOME, IT WAS IMPLEMENTED.

UM, YEAH, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN TOWN AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ONE OF THE PROCESSES AND, AND AFTER I BROUGHT IT UP TO STEVEN, UM, HE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WAS LIKE, WELL, WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS.

AND HE DIRECTED A CHANGE IN THE PROCESS AND I'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT THAT CHANGE HAS HELPED THEM.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY COOL THAT THAT

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WAS A QUICK, QUICK WIN, UM, ESPECIALLY COMING FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

AND I THINK THAT THE HEAD OF THE ELECTRIC APARTMENT FOR THAT AS WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD, I HOPE TO SEE MORE IMPROVEMENTS IN PROCESSES HERE IN FRONT ROYAL.

AND I ALSO CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATED.

UM, I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WORKING ON SECTIONS OF THAT WHILE I'M PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE, THAT'S BEING PICKED BACK UP AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH GETTING THAT DONE.

SO THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK JUST I'LL I'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT COMMENT AND SAY I'M A BIG FAN OF PROCESSES, UM, AS AN ATTORNEY OF THE LAWS, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY, EVERYBODY HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR EXPECTATIONS UNDER THE LAW.

AND AS PART OF THE PROCESSES, THEN EVERYBODY WINS BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN PREDICT HOW TO MOVE THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES.

AND IT REDUCES THE, UH, ACTUALITY AND THE, UH, PERCEPTION OF, UM, PEOPLE BEING, UM, ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS FASTER THAN OTHERS.

AND THAT WE'RE ADMINISTERING, UM, GOVERNMENT IMPARTIALLY.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, FOR MY REPORT MAKE A COUPLE QUICK, UH, COMMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE WAS THAT I HAD MENTIONED THAT I'D BE TRYING TO PLUG INTO OR REVIVE OR WHATEVER NEEDED TO BE DONE TO, UM, THE MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION.

I'M VERY PLEASED TO REPORT THAT IT'S ALIVE AND KICKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NEWS TO ANYBODY BUT ME, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THERE.

AND, UH, HAD A NICE MEETING TODAY, UM, WITH SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF IT I'M GOING TO BE WORKING TO, UM, PULL ANYBODY ELSE IN WHO WANTS TO, UH, BE A PART OF IT.

THEY'RE HAVING A MEETING, UH, IN OCTOBER AND I HOPE TO ATTEND ALSO THE, I RECEIVED SOME RESPONSE ON THE QUESTION OF A SISTER CITY.

IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE A SISTER CITY, UH, AND WHICH WOULD COLEPEPPER.

AND IT'S NOT A, UM, A FORMAL ARRANGEMENT AT LEAST AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DIG INTO IT.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, A GOOD PERSON OR LOCALITY TO HAVE IN MIND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST, UM, BY HAPPENSTANCE, SOMEBODY WHO WAS MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT HOW THEY THEY'VE REALLY GOT, UM, LIKE A DISTRICT THAT WOULD, WOULD, UH, BE LIKE WHAT WE THINK OF WHEN WE THINK OF MAIN STREET, THE MAIN SHOPPING AREA PLACE, WHERE PEOPLE GO TO SPEND A LITTLE MONEY AND, AND HANG OUT FOR AWHILE.

AND IF THEY'VE ACHIEVED A DISTRICT WHERE THAT IS ACHIEVABLE, THEN MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT OUR AND MAIN STREET AND SEE, WELL, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME THING? I'M SURE THERE'VE BEEN SIMILAR DISCUSSIONS TO THAT, BUT I ALSO HAVE SOME FURTHER, UM, IDEAS REGARDING, UH, SISTER CITY AND ALSO MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION.

AND I'D LIKE TO TIE THAT INTO A COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT, UM, FRONT ROYAL NEEDS A VISION.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WE, WE WILL HAVE A VISION, BUT, UM, AS SOME VERY SPECIFIC THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN THINKING VERY INTENTIONALLY ABOUT HOW TO, UM, SHARE THEM BEST, BUT I THINK I'VE ARRIVED AT HOW TO DO THAT.

AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST EXTEND THE OFFER TO DISCUSS ON A, ON A, YOU KNOW, ONE-ON-ONE IS PEOPLE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN, UH, FOLD THAT, THOSE IDEAS INTO OUR DISCUSSIONS OVER THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I THINK, UM, I'M REALLY EAGER TO SHARE, UH, WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO, BUT I THINK I WANTED TO START WITH YOU ALL.

UM, SO YEAH, LOOK OUT FOR MY TEXTS AND EMAILS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

OR PLEASE, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE PROACTIVE ON THAT, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU.

UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO SHARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, THIS PAST WEEKEND I ATTENDED THE FRONT ROW ONE'S RIBBON CUTTING.

IT'S A NEW STORE ON MAIN STREET.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STOP IN THERE.

IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

UH, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT WHILE STANDING THERE, UM, A COUPLE CAME UP BESIDE ME, WE JUST SMALL TALK.

AND THEN SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE WASN'T FROM THE AREA, SHE WAS FROM OHIO AND THAT EVERY YEAR ON THEIR WAY TO OUTER BANKS, THAT SHE SEES A SIGN FOR FRONT ROYAL, AND THAT THEY HAD DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO STOP THERE THIS YEAR.

SO SHE STAYED IN AN AIRBNB AT THE TOP OF HANABI AND THEY

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WERE ENJOYING FRONT ROYAL FOR THE WEEKEND.

AND WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO ME, AS SHE SAID, THIS IS THE COOLEST PLACE AND PEOPLE ARE SO FRIENDLY, THEY'VE JUST BEEN SO NICE.

AND SHE'S LIKE, I JUST LOVE IT HERE.

AND I WAS LIKE, OH, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S GREAT.

AND THEN I SAID, I'M GOING TO SHARE THAT.

SO, UM, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT US, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE VISITING.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

ALSO ROYALTON AND DETAILING ALSO HAD A RIBBON CUTTING.

I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, UM, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER NEW BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN AND THEN LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, UM, COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE, MYSELF, UM, MAYOR HOLLOWAY AND, UM, MR. HICKS ATTENDED THE TOWN AND COUNTY LIAISON MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND ANYBODY THAT WAS A PART OF THAT, OR WATCH THAT, OR HEARD ABOUT THAT, OR READ ABOUT THAT.

AND I'M SURE YOU ALL WOULD AGREE WITH ME.

IT WAS THREE HOURS OF JUST ABSOLUTE COOPERATION, UH, TALKING DISCUSSION, GOOD CONVERSATION.

UM, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I DON'T WANT TO OVERLY EXAGGERATE, BUT IT WAS GREAT.

AND EVERYBODY AFTERWARDS FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT.

AND WE REALLY DISCUSSED A LOT OF THINGS AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO I JUST REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND COOPERATION AMONGST THE TOWN AND COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, WE'RE ALL PART OF THE SAME COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I THINK, I BELIEVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FELT THE SAME WAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT WILL BE HAPPENING AGAIN, I BELIEVE DECEMBER.

UM, AND SO MY FELLOW COUNCILMAN, JUST BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE WANT ON THAT AGENDA.

AGAIN, THREE HOURS MIGHT SOUND SCARY, BUT IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS THREE HOURS.

DID IT? IT FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST MOVING ALONG.

SO, SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS WITH YOUR INDULGENT MYSPACE MAYOR? I JUST WANTED TO ADD A SECOND COMMENT TO PIGGYBACK ON YOURS THAT I ACTUALLY RAN INTO SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST MOVED HERE, UM, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WHO SAID ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING.

PEOPLE ARE SO NICE HERE AND THERE.

SO, UM, BASICALLY NONJUDGMENTAL WAS HIS WORD.

UM, THEY TAKE PEOPLE AS THEY ARE, AND I LOVE THAT.

LET'S KEEP IT UP FOR TOMORROW.

YES.

I'D SAY, I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR SUCH POSITIVE THINGS AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE THAT, UM, COME HERE AND VISIT AND MOVE HERE ARE FEELING EMBRACED AND WELCOMED.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHETHER IT'S A TOURIST OR A NEW RESIDENT.

ALL

[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

RIGHT.

SO SINCE THERE IS NO, UM, REPORT TO THE MAYOR, I CAN MOVE ON TO NUMBER 10, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. AND I NEED A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE BECAUSE THAT AGENDA AS PRESENTED SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED JUST THAT, UM, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE A NO FOR, FOR DISCUSSION FOR REASONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO YOU'RE GOOD.

EVERYBODY'S GOOD.

OKAY.

SO THEN IF, IF HEARING NO MORE DISCUSSION, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE VICE MAYOR? COCKREL YES.

SORRY.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

[11A. Special Events Policy and Procedures (Town Manager)]

UM, NEXT UP IS BUSINESS ITEMS AND, UM, UNDER BUSINESS ITEMS IS THE SPECIAL EVENTS, POLICY AND PROCEDURES.

AND, UM, I NEED A MOTION.

UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MS. PRESLEY, I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU, BUT DO YOU MIND READING THE SUMMARY FOR THAT? SURE.

SORRY.

ANTHER, JULY 13TH WORK SESSION COUNCIL AGREED TO MOVE THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING FOR ACTION STAFF HAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT COUNCIL AND STAFF HAVE RECEIVED DURING THE MEETINGS AND INFORMATION SESSIONS.

THIS INCLUDES THE NEW MATRIX THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY A BUSINESS OWNER.

THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES TONIGHT HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP AND FINALIZED TO CLARIFY THOSE ONLY THOSE ITEMS COUNCIL DISCUSSED AT THE SEPTEMBER 13TH WORK SESSION.

AND THEY INCLUDED, WE REVISED THE DEFINITION OF GATHERING REVISED WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS TO 48 HOURS BEFORE THE EVENT CLARIFIED UNLIMITED EVENTS AND NUMBER OF EVENTS ALLOWED PER CIVIC ORGANIZATION

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PER YEAR FOR COMMUNITY GATHERING AND COMMUNITY EVENTS CLARIFIED THE MEANING OF RECURRING ADDED VISITOR ALONG WITH TOURISM TO BETTER IDENTIFY THAT EVENT AND CLARIFY THE NUMBER OF PERMITS ALLOWED PER CIVIC ORGANIZATION PER YEAR.

AND HOW MANY CLOSERS ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA UNDER TOURISM SLASH VISITOR EVENTS.

STAFF HAS REQUESTED AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF NOVEMBER 1ST.

THIS ALLOWS SUFFICIENT TIME TO COMPLETE THE NEW APPLY APPLICATIONS, THE AFTER ACTION REPORT AND OTHER REQUIRED DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR EACH REQUEST.

OKAY.

AND NEED EMOTION, OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL PERMISSION AND VICE MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS, POLICY AND PROCEDURES EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021 AS PRESENTED.

OKAY.

FOR YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IN A SECOND, AND I'M GOING TO OPEN THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AND I'M GOING TO START WITH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IS HALLELUJAH, UH, APPROPRIATE THING FOR US TO SAY, HALLELUJAH.

UM, SO THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF WORK DONE ON THIS.

I FEEL LIKE LOTS OF COOPERATION STAFF WORKED HARD, UM, GOT LOTS OF INPUT FROM BUSINESSES AND CITIZENS.

AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS, UM, IT'S REALLY A CULMINATION OF A LOT OF, OF EFFORT.

UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

AND OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE START USING THIS, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CHANGE, WE CAN ALWAYS BE OPEN TO ANY CHANGES ANYBODY ELSE WANT ON.

UM, I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO, UM, MRS. GUTIERREZ ABOUT, UM, THE MATRIX AND SHE, I SAID, I THINK I WAS PRETTY SURE IT WAS HER MATRIX THAT MADE IT IN HERE, BUT SHE DOESN'T THINK IT'S HER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WORK SESSION, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME AROUND THE MATRIX CAME OUT OF A DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED AT THAT LAST MEETING.

AND IT WAS PRESENTED BY PARTICIPANTS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THIS MATRIX CAME FROM NOW THAT WE'RE COMING TO THE END OF THIS.

AND I WILL SAY BY THE WAY, I'M VERY IN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

SO I TOLD HER, UM, IN A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS THING GOING SO THAT WE CAN GET IT GOING.

AND THEN IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES LATER, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT YEAH.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, STEPHEN, DO YOU KNOW, I CAN ANSWER IT.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

THE MATRIX HAS BEEN, UM, THE SAME THAT WE HAVE WE'VE WE, WE, WELL, WE TWEAKED IT FROM A STANDPOINT OF ALLOWING, UM, DIFFERENT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS EVENTS, BUT, UH, IT HASN'T BEEN, UH, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THE SAME MATRIX THAT JLL PROPOSED.

RIGHT.

SO THIS IS A MUCH CLEANED UP VERSION THAT REFLECTS THE MATRIX THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THANK YOU.

FROM ONE BUSINESS OWNER OR MAIN STREET.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD AT THAT WORK SESSION.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHO THAT BUSINESS D I AM.

IS IT OKAY TO SAY SCOTT TURN MEYER? YEAH, I'LL TURN MINE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD, WE HAD A SCOTTISH THING FOR THIS, BUT WE ALSO HAD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BUSINESS INVOLVEMENT AND COOPERATION, AND THIS WASN'T DEFINITELY NOT THE ORIGINAL JLL PROPOSED MATRIX.

IT COMES FROM A BUSINESS OWNER WHO RECENTLY JUST MOVED TO MAIN STREET.

SO AWESOME.

THANKS TO SCOTT.

I AM ALSO GLAD THAT, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO A POINT OF COOPERATION AND HAVING BUSINESS OWNERS AND CITIZENS AND EVERYBODY SIT DOWN AND, UH, COME TOGETHER IN A COMMUNITY SPACE AND A VERY KNOW GO AWAY COMMUNITY.

WAIT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT ANYWAYS, REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS HAS BEEN DONE AND WE CAN PUT THIS TO REST AND WE CAN START BOOKING SOME EVENTS BARRING, NO MORE DISCUSSION.

ANYBODY LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

VICE MAYOR.

COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

NO COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

YES.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

MOTION PASS.

AND, UM, THE LAST

[12. CLOSED MEETING – Personnel]

THING ON OUR AGENDA IS CLOSED MEETING.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE MEETING, MS. VICE MAYOR.

I MOVED THAT TOWN COUNCIL GO INTO CLOSE MEETING PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 0.8 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

ONE, THE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR APPOINTMENT TO BOARDS, FOR WHICH TOWN COUNCIL HAS THE POWER OF APPOINTMENT, AS WELL AS THE ASSIGNMENT APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION AND PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER'S APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION ONE OF THAT CODE.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, WE NEED TO TAKE ROLL CALL, CORRECT? VICE MAYOR.

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COCKREL YES.

COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE.

YES.

COUNCILMAN LOYD.

YES.

COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN.

COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR MEETING, UH, MEETING ADJOURNED.