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UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY TO SHOWING UP TONIGHT FOR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON OUR, WHY THE STEAM OPERATION.

UH, SO BEING AT THE CASE, MR. HICKS, UH, YOU WANT TO START IT OFF FOR US.

UH, FIRSTLY, UH, THE, UH AND SO AS A RESULT, UM, THE MAYOR HAS REQUESTED THAT WE KINDA CAREFULLY GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION THAT SHERIFF BUTLER PRESENTED AND KIND OF SHARE, UM, SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND ALSO CLARIFY THAT THE TOWN DID NO WRONG.

UH, WE HAD, UH, DEQ TO DEQ OFFICIALS WHO CLAIR THAT FILE THAT FOR US.

AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY, GEORGE TO BEGIN THE, UH, PRESENTATION AND THEN DOUG WILL FOLLOW.

AND THEN IF COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, UM, WE'RE WILLING TO, UH, ADDRESS THEM.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, STEVEN.

UH, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

UM, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ADDRESS EXCESSIVE FORCE BASED ON THE FACTS.

AS I KNOW THEM, SHERIFF BUTLER USED EXCESSIVE FORCE IN DETAINING THE TOWN SOLID WASTE CREW AT THE BENTONVILLE TRANSFER STATION ON APRIL 20, SHERIFF BUTLER, PERSONALLY, LAYING IN WAIT ALL MORNING OF THE 20TH, HOPING TO DISCOVER THAT DISCOVER WHAT HE BELIEVED TO BE ILLEGAL DUMPING AT THE TRANSFER STATION, INTERCEPTED THE TOWN'S CREW, OPERATING TRUCK NUMBER SIX, SIX ONE, AS THEY ARRIVED AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, OF THAT THREE MEMBER CREW, UH, THE TOWN HAS ALREADY LOST ONE OF THOSE CREW MEMBERS.

UH, HE LEFT EMPLOYMENT SHORTLY AFTER THIS INCIDENT, BEFORE THE CREW COULD UNLOAD THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THE TRUCK, WHICH CONTAINED 10 TONS OF RESIDENTIAL TRASH ONTO THE TIPPING FLOOR.

SHERIFF BUTLER ORDERED THE CREW MEMBERS TO STOP UNLOADING SURRENDER THEIR OPERATORS, LICENSES, AND ORDERED THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK OUT OF THE TRUCK.

HE ALSO THREATENED THE EMPLOYEES WITH QUOTE UNQUOTE EPA VIOLATIONS, UH, FINES UP TO $1 MILLION JAIL SENTENCES.

AND AS TO THE CREW MEMBERS OF TRUCK SIX, SIX, FOUR, WHICH DEPARTED SHORTLY BEFORE SIX 61, HE THREATENED THEM WITH OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

THE TOWN EMPLOYEES WERE DETAINED AT THE TRANSFER STATION FOR 44 MINUTES UNDER THESE ORDERS AND THREATS FROM SHERIFF BUTLER.

AND HERE IS A TICKET FROM THE TRANSFER STATION.

IT SHOWS YOU THE TIME IN TIME AND OUT TIMES, UH, IT'S, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED THERE AT THE BOTTOM FOR TOTAL OF 44 MINUTES.

UH, THIS CREW WAS DETAINED.

UM, YOU ALSO SEE, UH, HIGHLIGHTED THE AMOUNT OF TONNAGE THAT WAS, THAT WAS DROPPED AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

IT IS NOT EVEN OPEN TO DEBATE WHETHER UNDER THESE FACTS DURING THIS TIME THE TOWN CREW WAS DETAINED OR SEIZED UNDER THE LAW BECAUSE SHERIFF BUTLER ADMITTED THAT HE ADMITTED THAT HE HAD DETAINED THE CREW DURING A CONTEMPORANEOUS TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH ROBBIE BOYER, THE TOWN'S PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR DIRECTOR.

SO WHAT'S IMPLICATED HERE AS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS, AND EFFECTS AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE LANDMARK CASE OF TERRY VERSUS OHIO, WHICH SET THE STANDARDS FOR, UH, FOR AN INVESTIGATORY, UH, DETENTION OR INVESTIGATORY STOP.

AND IN THAT CASE, THE U S SUPREME COURT STATED IT MUST BE RECOGNIZED THAT WHENEVER A POLICE OFFICER A COSTS, AN INDIVIDUAL AND RESTRAINTS HIS FREEDOM TO WALK AWAY, HE HAS SEIZED THAT PERSON A DETENTION

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CONSTITUTES A SEIZURE UNDER THIS STANDARD.

THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES WHETHER SHERIFF BUTLER'S SEIZURE OF THE TOWN CREW, WHICH WAS A CLEAR INTRUSION UPON THEIR RIGHTS WAS REASONABLE ON THIS ISSUE.

THE SUPREME COURT STATED IN TERRY AND IN JUSTIFYING THE PARTICULAR INTRUSION, THE POLICE OFFICER MUST BE ABLE TO POINT TO SPECIFIC AND ARTICULABLE FACTS, WHICH TAKEN TOGETHER WITH RATIONAL INFERENCES FROM THOSE FACTS, REASONABLY WARRANT THAT INTRUSION ANYTHING LESS WOULD INVITE INTRUSIONS UPON CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHTS BASED ON NOTHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN IN ARTICULATE HUNCHES, CURIOUSLY.

AND REVEALINGLY DURING HIS PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON MAY 17, SHERIFF BUTLER FELT THE NEED TO SAY THIS.

ONCE I ACTUALLY FOUND THE CODES FOUND WHAT WAS I BELIEVE WAS GOING ON AND SAW THAT THERE WAS REASONABLE SUSPICION THROUGH THE TWO OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEE WHO'S CERTIFIED OF THE TRANSFER STATION, UH, TO ACTUALLY WITNESS THIS AND SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DUMP THIS STUFF HERE.

UH, WE HAVE THE REASONABLE SUSPICION TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE SHERIFF FELT THE NEED TO USE THAT LEGAL PHRASE.

UH, REASONABLE SUSPICION, OBVIOUSLY SHERIFF BUTLER REALIZED THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR HIS DETENTION OF THE TOWN CREW WAS IMPLICATED BY HIS CONDUCT, OF COURSE, SAYING THAT YOU HAD A REASONABLE SUSPICION DOES NOT MAKE IT.

SO, AND IT WAS JUST AN EMPTY ASSERTION.

SO AGAIN, QUOTING TERRY, THE TERRY STANDARD FOR REASONABLE INTRUSION, WHAT LED SHERIFF BUTLER? THE QUESTION IS WHAT LED SHERIFF BUTLER TO REASONABLY CONCLUDE IN LIGHT OF HIS EXPERIENCE THAT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY MAY BE A FOOT.

WELL, THE SHERIFF ALSO ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR US.

HERE'S WHAT SHERIFF BUTLER KNEW OR RATHER DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME HE DETAINED THE TOWN'S CREW.

I DIDN'T TELL YOU TO DO I STILL HAVE NO IDEA.

I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN SLOTS, NEVER WORKED AT A WASTEWATER TREATMENT CENTER.

AND MY BEST KNOWLEDGE OF THIS STUFF IS VERY LIMITED.

I'VE LOOKING AT THIS.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT POSSIBLE LAWS COULD BE VIOLATED.

AND I'M LOOKING THROUGH COUNTY CODE, STATE CODE, FEDERAL CODE TO SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY OUT THERE.

AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW WITH EPA DE QUE, WHICH I'M FINDING OUT DEQ, WHICH I HAD NO, NO KNOWLEDGE OF DEQ BEFORE TWO WEEKS AGO.

SO THE SHERIFF HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT DEQ EVEN WAS, UM, ON APRIL 21, AFTER HE CONTACTED DEQ, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, DURING WHICH SHERIFF BUTLER, REFERRING TO JAMIE LANCE, THE TRANSFER STATION EMPLOYEE INVOLVED STATED, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT AN EXPERT ON SLUDGE.

IT IS CLEAR FROM THE SHERIFF'S OWN WORDS THAT IN LIGHT OF HIS EXPERIENCE, WHICH WAS NON-EXISTENT SINCE HE DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS LOOKING AT, AND HE DID NOT HAVE AN EXPERT TO ADVISE HIM, HE COULD NOT HAVE REASONABLY CONCLUDED THAT ANYTHING ILLEGAL WAS A FOOT ON APRIL 20 AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

BUT INSTEAD THAT HE HAD NOTHING MORE THAN AN INARTICULATE HUNCH, IT WAS NOT UNTIL AFTER SHERIFF BUTLER USED EXCESSIVE FORCE AND DETAINING THE TOWN'S CREW THAT HE ELECTED TO CONDUCT A PROPER INVESTIGATION BY CONTACTING STATE DEQ.

AS WE ALL NOW KNOW, FOLLOWING A PROPER INVESTIGATION BY THE PROPER EXPERTS, THE TOWN WAS FULLY AND COMPLETELY EXONERATED WITH RESPECT TO THE HANDLING OF ALL WASTE BYPRODUCTS OF THE TOWN'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

THANK YOU, DOUG.

THANK YOU, GEORGE.

THIS LEADS US TO THE QUESTION OF WHY DID THIS EVEN OCCUR IN THE FIRST PLACE, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THE SHERIFF MADE AND THE STATEMENTS MADE BY SOME COUNTY OFFICIALS AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, WAS IT BEST ALMOST COMPLETELY MISLEADING? UM, AND HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

UM, SHERIFF, MARK BUTLER STATED, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE PERSON THAT

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IS DOING IT? THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD OF ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I ASKED, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE PERSON THAT'S DOING IT? THEY SAID THEY HAD, UM, AS SOON AS THIS OCCURRED, I FILED THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST TO WARREN COUNTY, WHICH WAS, UH, ESSENTIALLY IGNORED.

UM, THE SHERIFF HAS NOT RESPONDED AT ALL.

THE COUNTY HAS SENT, UH, ITS RESPONSE WHERE THE, UM, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, SAID, UH, SAID THAT HE'S TAKING A, UM, UM, AN EXEMPTION TO THE FOUR-YEAR REQUEST.

SO WE GOT NOTHING, UH, AT THE MAYOR'S REQUEST, TOWN STAFF CONDUCTED INTER INTERNAL, UH, RESEARCH AND, UM, QUESTIONED TOWN STAFF REGARDING VERBAL CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNTY STAFF REGARDING THEIR CONCERNS IN, UH, WE UNCOVERED THE DISTURBING DETAIL REGARDING JAMIE LYNCH, THE WARREN COUNTY SOLID WASTE SUPERVISOR.

AND HERE'S THE TIMELINE APRIL 14TH.

UM, THE TOWN REFUSE SUPERVISOR RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM JAMIE LANCE, APRIL 15TH, THE TOWN REFUSE SUPERVISOR WHILE HE WAS ON VACATION RETURNED, MR. LYNCH'S PHONE CALL ASKING FOR 24 HOURS TO GET BACK IN TOUCH SO HE COULD GET THE INFORMATION APRIL 15TH, THE TOWN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IN THE PRESENCE OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT MANAGER TRIED TO CONTACT MIKE BERRY AND THE WARREN COUNTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS SEVERAL TIMES.

MR. BARRY DID NOT ANSWER HIS TELEPHONE.

AND MR. BARRY'S VOICEMAIL BOX WAS FULL.

SO THE TOWN COULD NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE ON APRIL 15TH.

THE TOWN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IN THE PRESENCE OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT MANAGER LEFT A VOICEMAIL FOR MR. LYNCH TO RETURN THE CALL SO THEY COULD HAVE SPOKE, RESPOND TO HIS QUESTIONS.

JAMIE, LYNN'S NEVER CALLED BACK.

THEN APRIL 20TH WAS THE DAY OF THE STING OPERATION.

JAMIE LENTZ CONFIRMED RECEIVING THE TOWN'S PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTORS MESSAGE AND ACKNOWLEDGED HE HAD NOT CALLED HIM BACK.

SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE DAYS THAT LAPSED WHERE THE TOWN WAS TRYING TO, UM, RESPOND TO ANY CONCERNS THE COUNTY HAD, BUT THE COUNTY INTENTIONALLY DRAGGED ITS FEET FOR FIVE DAYS TO CONDUCT A STINGER OPERATION.

AND THEN HERE'S SOME REASONABLE AND SENSIBLE QUESTIONS BY SUPERVISOR TONY CARTER.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY DID THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME A PROBLEM? AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS COULD THIS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WITH JUST A PHONE CALL TO TOWN MANAGER, SIT DOWN WITH MR. BARRY IN NEW TOWN STAFF AND ASK THEM.

AND SO THERE WERE, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM, WHICH THE TOWN WILL SHOW YOU THERE WASN'T, BUT IF THERE WAS, THERE WERE CERTAINLY MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

THESE, UH, ON THE PART OF THE COUNTY TO FIND A PROPER SOLUTION, THE TOWN MANAGER HAS BEEN HAVING BI-WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR YET NOTHING WAS EVER MENTIONED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO THE TOWN MANAGER, THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF PROBLEM WITH WHAT THE TOWN WAS DOING.

SUPERVISOR COLOR'S COMMUNICATES WITH VARIOUS TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS REGULARLY.

SHE NEVER BROUGHT UP THE MATTER WARREN COUNTY SOLID WASTE SUPERVISOR FAILED TO RETURN PHONE CALLS.

INSTEAD THE COUNTY LEADERSHIP FELT IT BEST TO CONDUCT A CRIMINAL STING OPERATION AGAINST THE TOWN AND ITS EMPLOYEES.

AND THE QUESTION IS WHY, AND, UH, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE PERSON THAT IS DOING THIS? HE SAID THEY HAD ACCORDING TO THE SHERIFF AND WE FIND OUT THAT AS FOS SHERIFF BUTLER ALLEGES, THE TOWN HAS BEEN TAKING GRIT AND SCREENINGS TO PAGE COUNTY.

THE TOWN'S BEEN GETTING RID OF IT THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED REPUBLIC.

THEY USED LINE CONTAINERS AND DROP IT OFF AT THE BATTLE CREEK LANDFILL.

THE TOWN HAS ALWAYS TAKEN GRIT AND SCREENINGS TO THE WARREN COUNTY TRANSFER STATION EVER SINCE JANUARY, 2017, THE TOWN HAS TAKEN GRIT AND SCREENINGS TO THE WARREN COUNTY TRUNKS FIRST STATION FOR OVER FOUR YEARS NOW.

AND LET ME JUST INTERJECT HERE, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW IT, UM, WHEN YOU, UH, TREAT SEWAGE, UM, THE, THE SEWAGE, UM, IN A LOT OF WHICH COMES FROM THE COUNTIES, UM, UM,

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SEPTIC TANKS, UH, IS BROKEN DOWN.

I'M GOING TO GREATLY SIMPLIFY THIS.

IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO MAJOR PARTS GRITTEN SCREENINGS, WHICH IS, UM, THE SORT OF THE SOLID STUFF, WHICH IS FILTERED OUT, UM, WATERED OUT COMPRESSED WATER, RUNS INTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND THEN IT BECOMES HARMLESS TRASH.

AND THAT'S DISPOSED OF AS RESIDENTIAL TRASH, IT'S DONE BY VIRTUALLY EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN THE COUNTRY.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A SEWAGE SLUDGE THAT'S TREATED, AND AFTER IT'S PROPERLY TREATED, IT'S DISPOSED OF IN A LANDFILL.

THE TOWN HAS FOR YEARS TAKING THESE GRITS AND SCREENINGS, UH, AND AFTER IT'S PROPERLY TREATED, IT'S DUMPED INTO THE, UH, TRANSPORTED RATHER TO THE TRANSFER STATION WHERE IT IS, UH, FROM THERE, UH, TRANSPORTED REGULARLY WITH THE OTHER TRASH TO THE TRANS UH, TO THE, UM, LANDFILL.

THE SLUDGE IS, IS, UM, PUT IN SPECIALLY LINE TRUCKS OWNED BY REPUBLIC, A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR THAT THE TOWN PAYS 10 TO 10 THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR TO HAUL TO THE PAGE COUNTY LANDFILL.

WE NEVER HAVE EVER TAKEN IT, UM, TO THE, UH, COUNTY TRANSFER STATION.

THE 2017 EMAIL SHERIFF BUTLER, UH, REFERENCES CONFIRMED THE TOWN HAS LEGALLY BEEN DUMPING GRITTEN SCREENINGS AT THE WARREN COUNTY TRANSFER STATION, WHICH BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN KNOW, AND DEQ KNOWS THE TOWN ONLY TAKES SLUDGE TO THE BOUGH BATTLE CREEK LANDFILL, NOT WRITTEN SCREENINGS.

THE TOWN HAS BEEN GETTING RID OF IT, GRITTEN SCREENS THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED REPUBLIC.

THEY USE LINE CONTAINERS, DROP IT OFF AT BATTLE CREEK, LANDFILL AND PAIGE COUNTY, SHERIFF MARK BUTLER.

THAT IS FALSE DEMONSTRABLY, FALSE SHERIFF BUTLER CLAIMS DEQ WOULD NOT LOOK AT HIS EVIDENCE THE VERY NEXT DAY AFTER THIS, UM, UH, STING OPERATION, SHERIFF BUTLER AND HIS DEPUTIES, UM, CALLED DEQ AND HAD DEQ DELIVER A SURPRISE INSPECTION OF THE TOWN'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND DEQ USED, UH, EXPERIENCE.

THIS HAD NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE THEY NEVER HAD A SHERIFF, UM, CALL FOR AN INSPECTION OF ANOTHER GOVERNMENT'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SO THEY THOUGHT SOMETHING VERY SHOCKINGLY ONEROUS MUST BE HAPPENING.

THE E-CLASS THE GREAT, GO AHEAD.

TALK.

I'VE ASKED THE QUEUE TO LOOK AT OUR EVIDENCE AND OUR SAMPLES THAT WERE TAKEN AND THEY REFUSED DEQ REVIEWED SHERIFFS PICTURE AND EVIDENCE IN FRONT OF WITNESSES, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM YOUR PICTURE THAT IS PICTURES OF SCREENING.

THAT VOICE YOU HEARD IS THE DEQ INSPECTOR.

UH, THE DEQ FOLLOW THIS UP WITH AN EMAIL TO THE TOWN.

I VISITED THE FRONT ROW AND TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I VISITED THE FRONT ROYAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT THE REQUEST OF THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I'VE VIEWED THE SCREENINGS, GRIT AND SEWAGE SLUDGE THAT IS GENERATED DURING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS.

I CONCLUDED THAT THE MATERIAL OBSERVED AT THE WARREN COUNTY TRANSFER STATION WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE SCREENS AND A GRIT THAT OBSERVED AT THE FRONT ROYAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND I WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE SCREENINGS AND GRIT THAT I HAVE OBSERVED AT OTHER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

AND THAT'S THE DEQ INSPECTORS, UH, REPORT SEVERAL EXPERTS AT DEQ REVIEWED MATERIAL AND CONFIRMED.

IT WAS GRITTEN SCREENINGS.

THIS, THE MATERIALS THAT I PERSONALLY REACHED IN AND GRABBED A NICE SAMPLE OF, BUT AS I HAD SEVERAL EXPERTS LOOK AT THE MATERIAL, THEY DID SAY, YEAH, THIS, IT APPEARS TO BE SCREENINGS AND RAGS.

NOW, AFTER THIS, WHY WOULD THE SHERIFF SAY, I ASKED DEQ TO LOOK AT OUR EVIDENCE IN OUR SAMPLES THAT WERE TAKEN AND THEY REFUSE.

AND IF IT'S FALSE, THIS IS BLATANTLY FALSE.

WE KNOW NO WHITES, CHERIF BUTLER ADMITS.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

I CAN'T TELL YOU I'M LOOKING AT THIS.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I STILL HAVE NO IDEA.

I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN SLUDGE IN MY VAST KNOWLEDGE OF THIS

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STUFF IS VERY LIMITED.

SHERIFF BUTLER TELLS THE DEQ OF INSPECTOR.

IF IT'S NOT SLUDGE, THEN THERE IS NO ILLEGAL DUMPING.

THERE IS NO ILLEGAL DUMPING AND WE ARE DONE.

IF YOU TELL ME, CAUSE YOU'RE THE EXPERT, IT WAS NOT SLUDGE.

I WILL GO BACK TO MY COUNTY.

ADMINISTRATOR'S NAME IS NOT SLICK OR PDQ, WE'RE DONE.

NOW.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING STATEMENT THAT WAS NOT SLUDGE.

AND VQ SAYS, HEY, MILLIE CAN GO RESIDENTIAL TRUCKS.

NOW WE'RE DONE.

HE ALSO SAYS THE SHERIFF, HE'LL GO BACK TO HIS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND SAY, THERE'S NO ILLEGAL DUMPING.

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S JUST NOT THE SHERIFF INVOLVED HERE.

IT'S ALSO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR INVOLVED IN THIS.

THE DEQ CONSISTENTLY MAINTAIN, MAINTAINS THAT THE MATERIAL IS GRITTEN SCREENINGS AND IT IS ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL TRASH.

THERE'S NOTHING.

YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO, AND THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE GOT UP HERE.

SO, UM, SO THIS IS THE MATERIAL FROM THE SCREENING AND BUILDING DOWN ON THIS END THAT COMES OFF FROM THE, UH, THE TOWN SUICIDE.

SO THEY HAD SCREENINGS THAT COME OFF.

THAT'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE SCREENING.

THIS IS GRIT THAT COMES OFF THAT SAME PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHAT, THIS IS WHAT THE DUMPSTER THAT'S RIGHT.

BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEN FOR YOUR PICTURE.

YEAH.

THESE PICTURES OF SCREENING, YOU CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINS THAT THE MATERIAL IS GOOD AND SCREENINGS AND IS ALLOWED IN AN ORDINARY TRASH DUMPSTER BUTLER THAT GRITTEN SCREENINGS ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL DUMPSTER DEQ.

YES.

THAT GRIT AND SCREENINGS IS ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL DUMPSTER.

YEAH.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE SEE THE DEQ EMAIL.

YEAH.

SHERIFF BUTLER CLAIMS TO THE TOWN IS ILLEGALLY DUMPING RIGHT IN THE FACE.

ILLEGAL DUMPING.

YES, IT WAS.

NOW WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT? WAS THERE A LEGAL DUMPING? YES, THERE WAS, YES.

THERE WAS ILLEGAL DUMPING.

HE SAYS, EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS FOR A FACT THERE ISN'T, IT'S FALSE.

NOW HERE'S CHAIRMAN CHAIRWOMAN COLORS.

NOW CLAIMS THE TOWN WAS ILLEGALLY DUMPING A BIOHAZARD.

MY CONCERN WAS FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR OUR STAFF BEING A NURSE.

I, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S A BIOHAZARD, TOWN'S GUILTY.

COUNTY'S GUILTY.

THE ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE WAS TO GET THEM TO STOP THEM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THEY HAD STOPPED DOING YEAH.

THAT TOWN'S GUILT AND COUNTY'S GUILT.

THIRD SUPERVISOR MAY.

THAT'S FALSE TO ME.

THAT'S A BIOHAZARD CHAIRWOMAN COLORS.

THAT'S FALSE.

WAS THERE ILLEGAL DUMPING? YES.

THERE WAS SHERIFF MOTH, MARK BUTLER.

THAT'S BOSS.

SURE.

BUTLER HAD SELF ADMITTED.

HE GRABBED A HANDFUL OF GRIT AND SCREENINGS AT THE TRANSFER STATION AND EXPERTS AT THE DEQ SAID GRIT AND SCREENINGS.

THE TALENT IS LEGALLY AND PROPERLY BEEN DISPOSING OF GRIT SCREENINGS AT THE TRANSFER STATION FOR YEARS, DEQ TELLS HIM MARK BUTLER, MULTIPLE TYPES OF GRITTEN SCREENINGS CAN LEGALLY BE DISPOSED AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

AND DEQ OBSERVED THE PICTURES FROM THE TRANSFER STATION AND THAT IT WAS GRITTEN SCREENINGS.

DEQ EVEN TELLS SHERIFF BUTLER THAT MOST OTHER LOCALITIES DISPOSE OF IT.

AND RESIDENTIAL TRASH THE SAME WAY AS FRONT ROYAL YET SHERIFF MAYMESTER STATES, THE TOWN IS GUILTY AND DR.

DALEY AGREES BUT GUILTY OF WHAT BUT THE COUNTY DID ACCOMPLISH THEIR END GOAL.

THE ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE WAS TO GET THE TOWN TO STOP DOING IT.

AND THEY HAVE STOPPED DOING IT.

SUPERVISOR MAY HAVE SAYS WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THE END GOAL.

HE SAYS, WHY NOT JUST EMAIL THE TOWN? IF THAT WAS THE ISSUE, WHY DIDN'T THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JUST CALL THE TOWN MANAGER TO SAY THEY WOULD NO LONGER ACCEPT GRITTEN SCREENINGS.

WHY THIS STING OPERATION AND WHY IS THE COUNTIES IN GOLD STOP? THE WARREN COUNTY TRANSFER STATION HAS TOLD THEM FRONT ROYAL.

AS OF TODAY, THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT IT ANY LONGER.

THAT WAS A DEQ COORDINATOR EMAIL ON TUESDAY, APRIL THE 20TH,

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2021, 3:57 PM.

RIGHT AFTER THE STING OPERATION, AH, AFTER THE SHERIFF ADVISED US OF THIS, ALL THE EMPLOYEES WERE NOTIFIED.

IF THERE ARE ANY MORE SUCH MATERIALS SHOWS UP OUT THERE, THEY ARE TO NOTIFY MR. BARRY IMMEDIATELY, AND THEY SHOULD NOT ACCEPT IT.

SO THE TOWN IS NOW TRANSPORTING GRITTEN SCREENINGS TO THE PAGE COUNTY LANDFILL BY MEANS EVER PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, THIS NEW COUNTY POLICY OF NOT ACCEPTING GRITTEN SCREENINGS AT THE TRANSFER STATION WILL COST CITIZENS OVER $29,000, APPROXIMATELY 9,000 OF WHICH WILL BE DIRECTLY BILLED TO THE COUNTY.

SO WE CAN THANK THE SHERIFF AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SHERIFF BUTLER NOW SAYS THIS EVERYDAY WORKERS SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING THE, THIS SITUATION, JEOPARDIZING THEIR LIVELIHOOD.

IT'S WRONG.

IT'S IMMATURE.

IT'S UNPROFESSIONAL PERIOD.

SO IF IT'S IMMATURE AND UNPROFESSIONAL AND THE AVERAGE WORKER SHOULD NOT BE PUT INTO IT, WHY DID THE SHERIFF DO THIS TO THE TOWN EMPLOYEES? YET? IT WAS SHERIFF BUTLER WHO DID THIS.

AND WE HAD THE TOWN EMPLOYEES GIVE AFFIDAVITS AND THEY CONFIRMED THE TOWN.

EMPLOYEES DID THAT.

THEY WERE DETAINED BY SHERIFF BUTLER FOR 44 MINUTES.

THEY WERE THREATENED BY SHERIFF BUTLER WITH FINES OF $25,000 TO $1 MILLION THREATENED BY SHERIFF BUTLER, THAT HE WOULD TAKE THEIR COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE LICENSES, WHICH WOULD TAKE AWAY THEIR LIVELIHOODS THREATENED BY SHERIFF BUTLER WITH OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE CHARGES, CRIMINAL CHARGES.

IF THEY TOLD ANYBODY WHAT HE HAD DONE TO THEM THREATENED BY BUTLER, THAT HE COULD IMPOUND THE TOWN REFUSE TRUCK.

WHAT, WHAT AUTHORITY DOES HE HAVE FOR THAT? AFTER THE SHERIFF'S ENCOUNTER ONE EMPLOYEE ON THE JOB, JUST THREE DAYS LATER, DECIDED TO LEAVE THE TOWN'S EMPLOYMENT, WHO COULD BLAME HIM? I MEAN, WELL, WHO WANTS TO PUT UP WITH THAT STUFF? THE EVERYDAY WORKERS SHOULD NOT BE PUT IN THIS SITUATION, JEOPARDIZING YOUR LIVELIHOOD.

IT'S WRONG.

IT'S AN IMMATURE AND AN UNPROFESSIONAL PERIOD MARCH.

THE SHERIFF SAID THAT IS SO TRUE, BUT WE STILL WONDER WHY WE, WHY HE DID IT.

SUPERVISOR CARTER SUMS IT UP.

MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD KEEPS SAYING THEY WANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNCIL AND WORK TOGETHER TO MOVE THE COMMUNITY FORWARD.

YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A STRANGE WAY OF SHOWING IT, BUT I GUESS ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

AMEN.

THE COUNTY FAILED TO COMMUNICATE THEIR CONCERNS OR THEIR GOALS, AND WHY EVEN WHEN THE TOWN TRIED TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THE COUNTY JUST REFUSED TO TALK TO THE TOWN AT ALL.

SHERIFF BUTLER AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ED DAILY LAUNCHED A STING OPERATION, ATTEMPTING TO CATCH THE TOWN ILLEGALLY DISPOSING OF SLUDGE.

WHY? WE'RE NOT SURE, I GUESS IT WAS SOMEHOW THEY WANT TO EMBARRASS THE TOWN.

UH, THE SHERIFF BUTLER EXERCISE, EXCESSIVE FORCE DETAIN, HARASSED, INTIMIDATED, UH, TOWN EMPLOYEES.

THE SHERIFF BUTLER REQUESTED DEQ TO THOROUGHLY INSPECT, INVESTIGATE ALL OF HIS ALLEGATIONS.

UM, WHY HE THOUGHT HE HAD SOMETHING.

WE HAVE NO IDEA.

DEQ FELL, NOTHING IMPROPER, NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES BY THE TOWN IN SHERIFF BUTLER'S FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH DEQ AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN FRONT OF NUMEROUS WITNESSES, INCLUDING OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

HE AFFIRMS DEQ POSITION.

THAT WHAT WAS THAT? THE TRANSFER STATION WAS LEGAL.

GRITTEN SCREENINGS ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL TRASH, EVEN THOUGH THE FACTS AND EVIDENCE SHOW CLEARLY NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY BY THE TOWN.

THE COUNTY DECIDED ON APRIL 20TH TO NO LONGER ACCEPT WRITTEN SCREENINGS.

AND NOW THE CITIZENS HAVE TO FORK OVER OVER $29,000 IN FRANKLY WASTED MONEY.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE COVERUP BY THE SHERIFF AND THE COUNTY.

HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE PERSON WHO'S DOING IT? SO THEY HAVE THE SHERIFF SAID THAT'S HOS THE TOWN'S BEEN GETTING RID OF GRITTEN SCREENINGS THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED REPUBLIC AND SEND IT OFF TO BATTLE CREEK, LANDFILL AND PAIGE COUNTY.

THAT'S FALSE.

THEY SDQ TO LOOK AT OUR EVIDENCE AND OUR SAMPLES THAT WERE TAKEN AND THEY REFUSED.

THAT'S FALSE.

YOU'VE SEEN THAT TOWN'S GUILTY IN THE COUNTY.

IT'S GUILTY.

SUPERVISOR MAYB.

THAT'S FALSE TO ME.

IT'S A BIOHAZARD CHAIRMAN.

WOMAN COLOR SAYS THAT'S LOST.

THERE WAS A LEGAL, WAS THERE ILLEGAL DUMPING? YES, THERE WAS.

THE SHERIFF SAID THAT'S FALSE.

THE GOOD NEWS.

WELL, THE TOWN HAS SOME GOOD NEWS.

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HAD A $40 MILLION UPGRADE JUST COMPLETED IN 2019, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AS OPERATING STAFF BY CERTIFIED AND EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS.

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THE TOWN USES EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS.

DEQ SURPRISE INSPECTION REVEALED THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IS OPERATING LEGALLY AND PROPERLY.

DEQ DETERMINED.

THE TOWN DID NOT ILLEGALLY DISPOSE OF SLUDGE AT THE COUNTY'S TRANSFER STATION.

THE TOWN WILL FOLLOW THE COUNTY'S NEW REQUEST OF APRIL 20TH TO DISPOSE OF THE GRITS AND SCREENING AT THE PAGE COUNTY LANDFILL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST WASTED MONEY.

THANK YOU.

SO GIVEN THE EVIDENCE AND FACTS PRESENTED HOPE, IT'S CLEAR TO ALL COUNCIL AND CITIZENS ALIKE THAT THE TOWN GOVERNMENT AND TOWN STAFF DID NOTHING WRONG, MADE NO MISTAKES AND TAKES NO BLAME.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS DEQ STATED EARLY, THE TOWN DID NOT DISPOSE OF SLUDGE AT THE WARREN COUNTY TRANSFER STATION.

THEREFORE THE TOWN DID NOT VIOLATE ANY LAWS.

FURTHERMORE, IT'S CLEAR TO THE COUNTY, IT'S CLEAR THE COUNTY CHANGED THEIR TRANSFER STATION POLICY OF ACCEPTING GRITTEN SCREENINGS.

ONLY THE DAY OF THE STING OPERATION, NOT BEFORE THE DATE FOR OVER FOUR YEARS, THE TOWN HAS BEEN LEGALLY AND PROPERLY DISPOSING OF GRIT AND SCREENINGS AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS NEW TRANSFER STATION POLICY IS FORCING THE TOWN TO PAY THE CONTRACTOR, TO SHIP THE GRIT AND SCREENINGS TO PAIGE COUNTY COSTING APPROXIMATELY $29,000 A YEAR, $9,000 BILL TO THE COUNTY BEGS THE QUESTION.

WHY SOME OTHER GENERAL QUESTIONS I LIKE TO THROW OUT THERE? WHY NOT A SIMPLE PHONE CALL FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO THE TOWN MANAGER WHILE LAUNCH A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND THE STING OPERATION.

I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR COUNCIL.

I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY CITIZENS HAVE ASKED ME THOSE QUESTIONS JUST MAKES NO SENSE AS IF IT'S NOT BAD ENOUGH.

WHY SO MANY FALSE STATEMENTS AT THE 11TH BOARD MEETING OF THE SUPERVISORS AFTER EVERYONE REALIZED THAT TELLER DID NOTHING WRONG, I LOST COUNT WITH ALL THE FALSE STATEMENTS AND CONTRADICTIONS.

IT WAS BOTH AMAZING AND EMBARRASSING AS TOWN CITIZEN.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR WARREN COUNTY'S NEGLIGENCE? LOOK IT OUT HARD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE COUNTY AND THE EDA HAVE TRIED TO MAKE TOWN COUNCIL OUT TO BE THE BAD GUYS IN THE EDA SCANDAL RATHER THAN TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY.

IT WAS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE EDA SPORT, LACK OF OVERSIGHT, WHICH ALLOWED THESE ALLEGATIONS, ALLEGED CRIMES.

AND NOW THIS FAILED STING OPERATION, WHICH IS RESULTING IN A NEW $29,000 A YEAR, BILL TO THE TAXPAYERS.

AND FOR WHAT AGAIN, HOW MUCH LONGER DOES THE AVERAGE CITIZEN NEED TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR WARREN COUNTY? SO NEGLIGENCE ALSO AS A TALENT CITIZEN AND MAYOR, PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST FRIGHTENING THINGS I WANT TO PUT OUT THERE IS THIS.

IF THE COUNTY LEADERSHIP CAN DO THIS, IF THE COUNTY LEADERSHIP CAN DO WHAT WE HAVE JUST EXPERIENCED TO THE TOWN GOVERNMENT AND WHAT TOWN EMPLOYEES, WHAT IS THE LEADERSHIP IN WARREN COUNTY CAPABLE OF DOING TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN? SO WHAT ARE THE REAL ISSUES HERE FOR WEEKS NOW EVER SINCE THING OPERATION ON APRIL THE 20TH, I'VE BEEN ASKING MYSELF ALMOST DAILY, WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON? AND WHY AM I SO UPSET? I'VE CONCLUDED.

AT LEAST MY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THIS YEAR, THIS ISSUE IS JUST NOT ABOUT GRITS SCREENINGS, SLUDGE, OR SHERIFF BUTLER, STING OPERATION.

WHAT IT REALLY IS ABOUT IS HONESTY, INTEGRITY, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND ULTIMATELY IT'S ABOUT MISUSE OF POWER.

ADDITIONALLY COUNTY LEADERS NEED TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.

THOSE WHO FALSELY ACCUSED THE TOWN OF ILLEGALLY DUMPING SLUDGE AND HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.

THOSE WHO SO HORRIBLY HANDLED THIS SITUATION.

ULTIMATELY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SHERIFF MARK BUTLER MUST APOLOGIZE TO HER EMPLOYEES FOR VALIDATE DETAINED, HARASSED, THREATENED BY THE COUNTY SHERIFF, IF THE COUNTY REALLY AND TRULY WANTS TO HEAL OUR COMMUNITY, IF THEY REALLY, AND TRULY WANT TO BE HONEST AND TRANSPARENT, IF THEY REALLY WANT TO BE WORLEY WANTS TO RESTORE TRUST BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY AS MANY CAMPAIGNED ON IT'S GOING TO START WITH COUNTY LEADERS ADMITTING THEIR MISTAKES AND THEIR FAILURES AND ADMITTING THEIR, THEY TRY TO COVER UP AND MAKE EXCUSES FOR THIS FAILED STING OPERATION.

IN OTHER WORDS, COUNTY LEADERS NEED TO COME CLEAN.

IN MY OPINION, THESE ARE NECESSARY FIRST STEPS TOWARDS RECONCILIATION AND THE HEALING PART.

YES.

AND IT JUST LET ME SAY, AND THEN JUST TELL ME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW,

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THEY'RE, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO HIRE A DAILY AS THEIR PERMANENT ADMINISTRATOR AND AS A COUNTY AND TOWN CITIZEN, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH SOMEONE, UH, OF HIS STATURE BEING IN THAT POSITION, KNOWING THAT HE COULD HAVE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED, UM, MR. HICKS, UM, MYSELF, UM, OR ANY ANYBODY, UH, WITH THE TOWN GOVERNMENT, UM, IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS, UM, CHAIRWOMAN CALLERS, UM, I KNOW, UH, MS. CALLERS AND VICE MAYOR COCKREL SPEAK OFTEN.

UM, IF SHE HAD ANY CONCERNS, WHY COULDN'T YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL VICE MAYOR? COCKREL I JUST THINK IT'S APPALLING AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S AWFUL WHAT THEY TRY TO DO TO COVER IT UP.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL.

IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, OUR LEGAL STAFF.

AND ONE THING I DO WANT TO ASK GEORGE, SO THERE, UH, OUR EMPLOYEE'S FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED.

SO DOES THAT OPEN THE COUNTY UP, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR ANY TYPE OF CIVIL LITIGATION? UH, YES.

MR. MAYOR COULD, UH, BUT THAT'S WOULD BE UP TO THE EMPLOYEES.

UH, IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT, UM, ANY CIVIL RECOURSE THE TOWN MAY HAVE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

SO THERE YOU GOOD, ANOTHER POSSIBLE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY.

SO THERE YOU GO.

ANYHOW.

UM, UH, NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

OH YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME TWO THINGS, ONE, UM, JUST FULL DISCLOSURE, UH, CHAIRMAN COLOR'S DIG, UH, CALL ME THAT DAY.

SHE ACTUALLY STATED THAT IN THE MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT, SHE DID CALL ME IN THE AFTERNOON, UM, TO LET ME KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

HOWEVER, AT THAT POINT IT WAS ALREADY, UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, UH, TH THAT SOMEBODY DID CONTACT ME.

I JUST WISH I WOULD HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE IT WAS GOING ON.

BUT, UM, ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS, FROM THE BEGINNING, THE FIRST MINUTE I HEARD THIS TILL EVEN NOW I LOOK AT THIS SITUATION AND I JUST KEEP SAYING WHY IT JUST SEEMS SO, UM, IT JUST, IT, HOW MANY USE AN ELEMENTARY WORD IT'S STUPID? UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE COULDN'T HAVE WORKED WITH EACH OTHER THE MINUTE SOMEBODY SAID THE MINUTE SOMEBODY QUESTIONED IT.

I REALLY DO BELIEVE IN THIS DAY AND AGE WITH COMMUNICATION, TELEPHONE, CALL AN EMAIL A HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE JUST AVOIDED ALL OF THIS.

NOBODY WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT ANY IN ANY OF THESE POSITIONS, NOT CHAIR BUTLER, NOT THE EMPLOYEES, NOT US, NOT THE COUNTY.

IT WOULD JUST BEEN A PHONE CALL TO WORK IT OUT.

UM, BUT I WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT I'VE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING.

AND I STILL SAY THIS THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.

WE REPRESENT ALL OF THE CITIZENS.

UM, WE REPRESENT THE TOWN CITIZENS, BUT THEY REPRESENT THE COUNTY CITIZENS, WHICH INCLUDES THE TOWN WHERE WINE COMMUNITY AND US VERSUS THEM IS NEVER, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR ANYBODY.

SO, UM, I'LL JUST LEAVE YOU ALL WITH THAT THOUGHT.

SO ANYBODY ELSE? UM, I JUST, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY, UH, REGARDING THE, UM, THE DISPOSAL OF THE, OF THE GRIT AND SCREENINGS, IS THAT, IS THAT AVAILABLE? IS THAT, WAS THAT A WRITTEN ONE OR IS THAT JUST AN UNDERSTANDING, CAN WE, COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE NATURE OF THE DEGREE I'LL DEFER TO DOUG ON THAT SCREENINGS ITSELF WAS NEVER SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE AGREEMENT? UH, I DON'T THINK ANYONE EVER THOUGHT IT NEEDED TO BE BECAUSE IT WAS, IT'S JUST ORDINARY TRASH.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE LIKE IF, UH, UH, A TOWN, UH, TRASH WORKER, UH, WENT TO THE, UH, TRANSFER STATION AND HAD A, UH, A SODA CAN AND THREW IT IN THE TRASH RECEPTACLE THERE, WE WOULD NEVER THINK TO ADDRESS THAT A TOWN, UM, EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT WRITTEN IN WRITING THAT HE COULD USE A TRASH RECEPTACLE THERE.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THE MAYORS, UM, THE LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND ALSO, UH, THE TOWN STAFF, UH, RUNNING THIS DOWN TO THE EXTENT THEY HAVE, THE MORE I'VE LEARNED ABOUT IT, THE MORE TROUBLED I I'VE I'VE BECOME ABOUT THIS, THIS WHOLE SITUATION

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AND MY MIND RETURNS TO THE PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE'S MIND IS.

AND THAT IS WHY DIDN'T, WHY DIDN'T WE JUST HAVE A PHONE CALL AND DISCUSS THIS AND HAVE THIS ENTIRE THING TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN AN HOUR.

AND THEN NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES TO, TO THAT FAILURE, TO JUST, JUST COMMUNICATE, UH, WE'VE LOST THE TOWN EMPLOYEE.

UM, AND WE, NOW, NOW WE'RE SPENDING $29,000 MORE EVERY YEAR FOR NOTHING.

SO, UM, ON TOP OF ALL OF THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO BEGIN, UH, WORKING FORWARD TOGETHER AS A, AS TWO ENTITIES, THE TOWN AND COUNTY, UM, THAT JUST SET THAT THIS WHOLE EPISODE SET THAT BACK, UH, SO MUCH.

AND, UM, I'VE BEEN DISAPPOINTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN, UM, AT, AT THE COUNTY'S BEHAVIOR AND THE SHERIFF'S BEHAVIOR SINCE, SINCE LEARNING ABOUT THIS, UM, SUFFERED, UM, I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER.

THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU STAFF.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNEW, UM, TODD JONES WORKED HARD ON IT, DOUG AND, UM, GEORGE AND STEVEN.

UM, GREAT JOB GUYS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, PLEASE.

MEANING OVER.