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TO CALL THE WORK SESSION MONDAY,[Town Council Work Session on April, 12, 2021.]
APRIL 12TH, 2021.TO ORDER I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
COUNCILMAN GLASSY, COUNCILMAN LLOYD, COUNCILMAN MCFADDEN, COUNCILMAN MEZA COUNCILMAN THOMPSON THERE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A RESOLUTION TO CORE LEACH RUN PARKWAY TO ACCEPTED INTO OUR URBAN STATE MAINTENANCE FUND PROJECTS COMPLETED.
UM, WE COORDINATE WITH BEAT OUT EVERYTHING'S READY FOR COUNCIL ACCEPTANCE OR ASSET INVENTORY.
SO I RECOMMENDED COUNCIL BEFORE WITH IT, SO WE COULD START AT $68.
OH, CAN WE HOLD OUT FOR MORE? SOUNDS GOOD.
SO, UM, NOW DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION MOTION FIRST, SECOND? OR IF ALL OF Y'ALL OR DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT? YES, WE DO.
WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE LEACH FRONT PARKWAY.
YOU GOT TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
ANY FURTHER BUSINESS MEETINGS NOW ADJOURN.
NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION MONDAY, APRIL 12, 2021.
YEAH, I THINK I MOVED THE TOWN COUNCIL CONVENE AND GO INTO CLOSE MEANING UNDER THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2.2 DASH THREE SEVEN 11 AND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS FOLLOWS ONE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT PERFORMANCE AND RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS AND APPOINTEES OF ANY PUBLIC BODY PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.2 DASH THREE SEVEN ELEVEN.A.ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA UNDER SUBSECTION EIGHT.ONE TO CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNCIL UNDER SUBSECTION EIGHT DOT EIGHT, THREE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS WHERE COMPETITION OR BARGAINING IS INVOLVED.
INITIALLY, IF I KNOW IT INTERESTS OF TOWN COUNCIL WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED SPECIFICALLY A MEDICAL PRACTICE LOCATED IN TOWN UNDER SUBSECTION EIGHT DOT SIX FOUR FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING A SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE AS SUCH COUNSEL, SPECIFICALLY THE LEGALITIES AND POTENTIAL LEGAL LIABILITY EXPOSURES OF THE TOWN REGARDING IT TO TOWN AND TOWN COMMONS PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH THREE SEVEN 11 DOT A DOT EIGHT.
IS THAT GOOD? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND CLOSE ME
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AS, UM, TOWN MANAGER OR DESIGNEE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE ACTUAL PRODUCT ORDERS.UM, NOW THE PORTION WITH THE TRASH AND DEBRIS ACTUALLY JUST CLEANS UP THE APPEALS PROCESS.
UH, WE'LL TELL THEM WHEN COUNCIL, UM, DID TEXT AMANDA AND A COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, THE APPEALS PROCESS BASICALLY, OR, UM, JUST COPIED THE APPEAL FOR THE TRASH AND DEBRIS AND IT READ THE SAME THING.
SO IT'S JUST MORE OF A CLEANUP OF THAT APPEALS PROMISES CHAPTER ONE 70 DASH 30 AS WELL.
WE'RE JUST ADDING DESIGNEE GROWTH, CORRECT.
THERE YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF THESE HOUSEKEEPING WOULD BE DESIGNATED AS THIS
UH, THE APPLICANT WILLIAM ANSANELLI DOING BUSINESS AS ONE 16TH STREET, LLC.
UM, THE APPLICANT FOR REVIEW OR THE APPLICATION FOR REVIEW POSES, THE REZONING AMPUTATION OF 0.4, FIVE ACRES FROM OUR THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS TO SEE ONE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS DISTRICT IN SOUTH POINT AND AREA.
THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE REZONING REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE PARKING AND STORAGE CAPACITY EXPANSION TO THE RESTAURANT ACROSS THE PINE TREE OF PINE STREET.
UH, NO PROFFERS WERE MADE AT THE, BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, MY BELIEF WE HAVE TAYLOR'S HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL WANT TO WANT ME TO READ OUT OF THE Y'ALL KNOW WHERE THIS IS.
THE HOUSE IS PART OF THE REZONING OR ARE THEY, UM, YEAH, THE, UH, THREE 51 PINE STREET.
SO THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE END AND THE ACTUAL VACANT LOT IS ALL PART OF THE REZONING.
SO IT'S A TWO LOTS, UH, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS CLAIMING OR KEEPING THE HOUSE LOCATED THERE.
UM, THERE IS A EXAMPLE, A SKETCH PLAN THAT IS IN THE PACKET THAT WOULD SHOW YOU WHAT THE PARK WOULD LOOK LIKE ALONG WITH A STORAGE FREEZER, I BELIEVE.
WHY DOES THE, WHY IS THE HOUSE SKID, UH, REZONED AS WELL? THE SAME URGENCY STUDENT, DIFFERENT LAWS, BUT IT'S THE SAME OWNER AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE SELLING OR SELLING THE SAME OR IT'S NOT ENOUGH AREA FOR HIS PARK VERGE.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? HE, I KNEW IT WASN'T ONE, IT WAS ONE PURCHASE PROPOSED PARCELS.
AND THEN ARE YOU SAYING PROBABLY THE A LOT, BUT DOES THE HOUSE NEED TO BE, YEAH, I MEAN, I, SORRY I SAW THE SKETCH.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING PARKING BACK BEHIND THERE.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT, UM, GETTING THAT SECOND PARCEL TO CHANGE OUR THREE AS WELL.
WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH THAT? WELL, IDEALLY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE OUT OF SPACE.
UM, SO WE'RE USING IT FOR THE IDEAS TO USE IT FOR STORAGE, UM, AND ALSO POSSIBLY TAKE OUR MEAT PROCESSING AND DO IT ACTUALLY IN THE WALK-IN COOLER THAT WOULD BE BEHIND THE HOUSE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING ALL OF OUR MEAT PROCESSING AT THE ONE 16 LOCATION.
SO YOU WOULD USE IT KIND OF LIKE THE OFFICE? UM, NO, I DON'T THINK WE'D REALLY BE USING IT AS AN OFFICE.
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BASICALLY JUST OVERFLOW, OVERFLOW STORAGE, UM, DRY GOODS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET LARGE PIECES OF BEEF AND CHICKEN AND HAVING OUR, OUR BUDGET IS ACTUALLY DO THE WORK OVER AT THAT PROPERTY IN AN ACTUAL WALK-IN CORE.
SO IF WE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, TEMPERATURE WISE AND SPACE WISE AND EVERYTHING, SO THE HOUSE IS STILL IN THE SEA.
IT WOULD BE IN THE C1 DISTRICT.
WE STILL COULD BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, I BELIEVE JUST ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, IS LIKE ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, WELL, THERE'LL BE LARGE DELIVERY TRUCKS ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, THEN OVER THERE, THEY, THEY HONESTLY DON'T FIT ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN, OUR LOT, UM, SO IT THEY'D HAVE TO STOP IN OUR LOT AND ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY RUN THEM ACROSS THE STREET.
OH, WERE YOU GUYS PLANNING ON PUTTING THE LIGHTING IN THIS PARKING LOT? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT THAT WAS, UM, AT LEAST WHAT WE'VE GATHERED FROM OUR LAST MEETING WAS THAT, THAT IT ACTUALLY IS A REQUIREMENT, UH, THAT, THAT THE LOT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE PAID.
AND WHAT THAT THING PROPERLY BY IT REALLY HAVE TO BE CORRECT.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS JUST A SKETCH PLAN, WHICH IS ONLY ORDINARY, BUT IT'S REQUIRED FOR THE REVIEW PROCESS.
IF APPROVED IS AN ACTUAL, UH, I BELIEVE A MINOR SIDE PLAN IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TOLD WOULD BE, AND IS ONLY PERMITTED WOULD BE PERFORMED PROCESS FURTHER.
SO LANDSCAPING PAVING CURRENTLY GUTTER, DOES IT EXTEND YOUR DRIVE-THROUGH? HONESTLY, THAT IS THE IDEA.
THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE POSSIBLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE ELIMINATING SOME OF OUR, UM, PARKING SPACES, UH, THAT FACE THE, THE ENTRANCE TO OUR BUILDING AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO PARK WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES.
YOU ALREADY, BASICALLY, THERE ARE NOT PARKING ON THE SITE CURRENTLY, BUT YES, IT WOULD BE FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING AND OVERFLOW OF CUSTOMER PARKING.
AND THE PLAN ALSO IS TO, UH, ACTUALLY MAKE OUR, THE, UH, SOUTH STREET, UH, ENTRANCE TO OUR PROPERTY, UH, JUST AN ENTRANCE AT THE PINE STREET TO THE EXIT.
AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE TWO FULL DRIVE-THROUGH LANES AND ALSO ALLOW FOR A ENOUGH SPACE FOR CARS TO ACTUALLY COME INTO THE RESTAURANT PARK.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF BACKUPS THAT ARE OCCURRING ON SOUTH STREET.
THIS WAS A BETTER, BETTER TRAVEL.
I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT I AM GOING TO ASK IT, HAVING JUST EXPERIENCED SOMETHING LIKE THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
DOES ANYBODY, DO YOU ALL ANTICIPATE, UM, YOUR NEIGHBORS ON COLLINS STREET HAVING ISSUES WITH THIS, OR I DON'T, I GUESS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THEY DID.
I THINK THAT, THAT THERE, OUR IMPACT OVER THERE IS GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL.
UM, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF NOISE.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
UM, I HONESTLY THINK THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T TO THERE.
UM, SO I HAVEN'T, NO ONE'S STANDING THING TO ME, THE LIGHTING IS PROBABLY THE ONLY THING, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S A PARKING LOT, SO IT'S REALLY GONNA CHANGE AS THE LOBBY.
SO THAT IS ON THE LESTER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S, THE HOUSE IS KIND OF ACTS AS A BUFFER AND JUST A MORE RESIDENTIAL FIELD TO THAT.
THE PARKING LOT RANK COMMISSION REVIEWED AND THEY RECOMMENDED THIS COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
I BELIEVE IT WENT TO IN THE LAST MONTH, I FEEL LIKE I'VE READ THAT THEY WERE ASKING IT.
DIDN'T, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GO.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO TRY TO START, UM, IN SOME WAYS THE SOONER, THE BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE OUT OF SPACE OR WE'RE FIGHTING A, KIND OF AN UPHILL BATTLE HANDLING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, UH, THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE COMING IN.
UM, SO IDEALLY IT WOULD TRY TO MOVE AT LEAST SOME OF THE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THE WALK-IN COOLER, UM, QUICKLY TELL YOU NOT TO LOSE ANY PROPERTY OR ANYTHING WITH THIS.
BUT IF, UH, I SAW HER, HIS DRAWINGS IT'S LIKE TO DRIVE
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THROUGH AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO GROW, TO GET CARS OFF THAT STREET OR ROYAL AND GIVE YOU GUYS MORE SPACE IN THAT AREA, THEN DEFINITELY TAKE IT ALL FORWARD.I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NEXT SITE PLAN WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DO THE PARK.
THIS IS JUST THE ZONING CHANGE.
EVERYBODY GOOD? EVERYBODY GOOD FOR MOVING IT THROUGH.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF NOW ABOUT ADVERTISEMENT.
G PRESENTATION, THOMAS CREEK TITAN.
SHE'S GOING TO DO THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, I FEEL BAD THAT BJ IS GOING TO HAVE TO JUMP OFF, JUMP BACK ON.
WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BETTER ORGANIZE THIS.
I THINK TODD'S JUST GOING TO DO, WHERE DOES IT CARE? I'M NOT SURE.
CAN YOU GO TO OUR ONLINE FILE? ENSURE THE PUBLIC SHARE, PLEASE.
DEPARTMENTS TO ELENA THAT HASN'T BEEN THE ACTUAL ONLINE WHERE ACTUALLY TWO BIRD EVER SAYS, PULL UP THE TOWN, PRESENT POWERPOINT OR POWERPOINT.
UM, DID YOU OPEN IT ON THIS COMPUTER? NO.
OVERALL HE'S TALKING ABOUT IN THE AGENDA CENTER ON THE TOWN.
ONCE I GET IN THE BOX, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED AS PART OF IT, NOT AS THAT POWERPOINT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT STUDENTS DO.
I MEAN, EXCEPT FOR THAT HOUSE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE RIGHT.
THEIR AGENDAS AND MINUTES ARE THAT TO
I PARTICULARLY LIKED YOUR PHOTO.
I'LL MAKE THINGS LOOK PRETTY
OH, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE FULL REPORT.
WE HAD AN, WE HAD AN ABBREVIATED MADDEN ABBREVIATED SLASH HITTERS.
JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, TELLING IT LIKE THE POWERPOINT WE DID.
WE JUST DID KIND OF ABBREVIATED.
WELL, I DIDN'T GET THAT ABBREVIATED.
WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE, WHILE THEY'RE, WHILE THEY'RE FOOLING WITH THIS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF.
UM, YOU GUYS HAVE THE ENTIRE REPORT ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE 20, 20 FISCAL YEAR.
WE STARTED DOING AN ANNUAL REPORT, UM, LAST YEAR, UH, JUST CAUSE I WANTED TO PROVIDE, UH, BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WITH KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT'S MADE UP OF AND KIND OF, UH, SOME KIND OF HIGHLIGHT STATS OF WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH EACH YEAR.
UM, SO JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH, UH, F 21, 22 BUDGET, WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, UH, THE $5.2 MILLION BUDGET, UM, RIGHT IN 2020, WE HAD 39 CERTIFIED OFFICERS.
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UM, WE LOST THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER, SO WE HAVE 38 CERTIFIED OFFICERS MOVING FORWARD.SO THAT NUMBER WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE HAVE 14 FULL-TIME AND THREE PART-TIME CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
UM, TWO POLICE CANINES, AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT.
WE'LL SEE WHAT, UH, HOW LEGISLATION AFFECTS THAT.
UM, AND THEN OUR, OUR DIVISIONS, WE HAVE THREE MAIN DIVISIONS, UH, CONSISTING OF PATROL INVESTIGATION COMMUNICATIONS.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT STAFF TO GO ALONG WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART IS IN THERE, WHICH KIND OF LAYS OUT, UM, THE STRUCTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT, UH, FROM ADMINISTRATION, UH, INTO THE PATROL DIVISION.
YOU KNOW, YOU'LL NOTICE ON, ON ONE SIDE.
UM, AND THEN THE SUPPORT SECTION IS ON THE OTHER, WHICH INCLUDES COMMUNICATIONS INVESTIGATIONS AS WELL AS OUR RECORDS AND EVIDENCE FUNCTIONS, THE CROSSING GUARDS RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT, WE'RE NOT EMPLOYING THEM CURRENTLY.
OUR OFFICERS ARE JUST STAFFING THEM.
UM, WE HAVE TO DO OF OUR PART-TIME FOLKS LEFT KIND OF DURING COVID.
UM, SO THERE WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF IN-PERSON SCHOOL GOING ON.
SO WE'RE JUST MEETING WITH OUR ON SHIFT PERSONNEL, UH, CURRENTLY.
UM, SO JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY 20, UH, 2020, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE, WE, UH, RESPONDED UP TO 15,025 CALLS, UM, THAT NUMBER REFLECTS, UH, INCOMING EMERGENCY AND EMERGENCY REQUESTS FOR SERVICE.
UM, BUT THAT NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, OFFICER SELF INITIATED CALLS, TRACKING STOPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, LOCATIONS THAT HAVE CALLS, WE'LL GET CALLS, UM, OUR OUTAGES, UH, AND OTHER RE ROUTINE ADMINISTRATIVE CALL ACTIVITIES.
SO YOU'VE GOT A CHART, KIND OF A PIE CHART THAT GOES ALONG THERE AS WELL AS A GRAPH CHART THAT ILLUSTRATES KIND OF THE TOP FOUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ON THE, ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE OR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE THAT WE DEAL WITH, UM, ACCIDENTS, DOMESTICS, DRUGS, AND OVERDOSE.
UM, THE, WE HAD 607 ACCIDENTS LAST YEAR THAT WE RESPONDED TO 578 DOMESTIC, UH, DOMESTIC CALLS, 272 DRUG, UH, ARRESTS.
NOW THOSE ARE JUST DRUG ARRESTS THAT ARE MADE BY OUR PATROL OFFICERS.
UM, THE ACTIVITY CONDUCTED BY THE DRUG TASK FORCE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE.
UM, AGAIN, WE PARTICIPATED WITH THE, UH, NORTHWEST REGIONAL VIRGINIA DRUG GANG TASK FORCE.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR.
WE DO INCLUDE THOSE IN ANOTHER SECTION OF THE REPORT AND THE TASK FORCE PUTS OUT AND WE RESPONDED TO 107, UH, DRUG OVERDOSES IN 2020.
THOSE CATEGORIES WERE UP EXCEPT FOR ACCIDENTS.
I'M GOING TO ASSUME IT'S BECAUSE NOT AS MANY PEOPLE WERE ON THE ROAD BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH HER MOST WELL, AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE ONCE WE GET TO THE TRAFFIC THAT, THAT HAPPENED AS WELL.
UM, SO ARRESTS LAST YEAR, UH, AGAIN, WE'VE PUT KIND OF THE, THE, UH, UH, MORE COMMON, UH, ARREST THAT WE MAKE DUI DRUGS, UM, DRUNKEN, YOU KNOW, DRUNK AND PUBLIC'S, UH, LARCENY OFFENSES, ASSAULT AND BATTERIES, ALL OTHER ASSAULTS, UH, PROBATION VIOLATIONS AND WARRANTS SERVICES.
UH, SO WE MADE 991, UH, AND WE ARRESTED 991 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS ON 1,564 DIFFERENT CRIMINAL CHARGES LAST YEAR.
UM, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THERE WERE 3,593 TOTAL TRAFFIC CITATIONS.
UM, THE VAST MAJORITY, UH, 20, UH, 2084 WERE MOVING VIOLATIONS.
UM, THERE WERE 852 SPEEDING EVENTS AND 202 DRIVING SUSPENDED DRIVING REVOKED.
UM, THOSE NUMBERS WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY LAST YEAR ONE BECAUSE OF COVID.
UM, THERE WERE NOT AS MANY PEOPLE ON THE ROAD WE WERE DOING LESS IN, YOU KNOW, DIRECT ENFORCEMENT, LESS THOSE COUPLERS, UH, TRAFFIC INSTANCES WERE, WERE RECKLESS OR ARE PRETTY OUT OF HAND.
UM, SO I EXPECT, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT NUMBER COME BACK UP SOME NEXT YEAR.
UH, JUST BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE, KIND OF THE PREDICTIONS WITH, UH, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, USE OF FORCE.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU WOULD'VE PULLED OVER.
TALK WITH WHATEVER THAT THOSE ARE JUST CITATIONS.
THOSE ARE STRICTLY CITATIONS THAT THERE WERE, THERE WERE MORE TRAFFIC STOPS IN THAT, JUST NOT, THESE WERE THE ONES WHERE, UM, SOME TRAFFIC SUMMONSES ARE ACTUALLY CORRECT.
UM, AND THE DUIS KIND OF FOLLOWED SUIT WITH THE TRAFFIC OFFENSES.
THE DUIS WENT DOWN BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE JUST WEREN'T AS MANY PEOPLE ON THE STREET, ALL THE RESTAURANTS
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WERE CLOSED.UM, SO OUR NEXT, UH, NEXT SLIDE HERE SHOWS OUR USE OF FORCE AND INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
UM, AND IN THE, UH, IN 2020, UH, WE HAD 12 INCIDENTS.
ALL OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS WERE MALES.
WE HAD TWO MORE USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS.
THEN IN 2019, UH, WE HAVE ONE TASER USAGE, ONE EMPTY HAND OR BALANCE POINT, UH, WHICH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A, JUST A HAND ON HAND.
UM, AND THEN BALANCE POINT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY I'VE TAKEN DOWN JUST A PICK THE PERSON.
SO THERE WERE 12, 12 INSTANCES OVERALL.
UH, AS FAR AS INTERNAL INTERNAL AFFAIRS, WE HAD FOUR FORMAL COMPLAINTS THAT WERE MADE.
ONE WAS MAJOR, THREE WERE MINOR AND ALL, UH, ALL OF THOSE ORIGINATED EXTERNALLY.
UM, AND ONE WAS AN IMPROPER DEMEANOR.
ONE WAS A PERFORMANCE OF DUTY.
ONE WAS A BIAS BASED POLICING AND IMPROPER DEMEANOR.
AND, UH, ONE WAS THE PERFORMANCE OF DUTY AND, UH, ALL BUT ONE, UH, PARDON ME, ALL THE TWO OF THEM WERE UNFOUNDED OR EXONERATED, THE LITTLE EVENT WHERE, UH, WHICH WAS BOTH BIAS BASED POLICING AND IMPROPER DEMEANOR, UM, ONE WAS SUSTAINED AND ONE WAS NOT SUSTAINED.
SO THOSE AND THESE NUMBERS ALSO ARE REFLECTED, UM, QUARTER, WE PUBLISH THEM QUARTERLY SO THEY CAN BE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY.
THE STATE NOW REQUIRES, UM, THROUGH SOME LEGISLATION KNOWN AS THE COMMUNITY POLICING DATA ACT THAT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, UM, COLLECT DATA ON EVERY SINGLE TRAFFIC STOP THAT IS MADE, WHETHER CITATION IS ISSUED OR NOT.
AND WE'VE GOT TO CAPTURE CERTAIN DATA, THE DATE, TIME LOCATION OF THE OFFENSE, UM, UH, REASON FOR THE STOP, UM, THE, UH, RACE, GENDER, ETHNICITY OF THE PERSON, ASIAN PERSON, AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON WAS, UH, SEARCHED WHEN LET THE VEHICLES WAS SEARCHED, UH, AND THEN ALL USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS.
AND ALL THAT INFORMATION GOES ALONG WITH USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS AS WELL.
WE HAVE TO REPORT THOSE TO THE STATE POLICE, AT LEAST QUARTERLY, WE DO IT MONTHLY, BUT THEN WE, WE, UH, PUT ALL THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND PUBLISH IT PUBLICLY, UH, ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE EVERY QUARTER, UH, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENCY, UM, AND KEEP THE PUBLIC INFORMED ON WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING.
SO IN, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE EXPANDED, UH, TO NOT JUST TRAFFIC STOPS, BUT ALSO TO NONCONSENSUAL ENCOUNTERS ON THE STREET.
SAY IF WE COME ACROSS A DRUNK PERSON ON THE STREET, UH, IF WE SUSPECT A DRUG, A DRUG DEAL ON THE STREET, AND WE ENDED UP MAKING CONTACT WITH THAT PERSON AND DETAINING THEM AND SEARCHING, AND THAT TYPE OF THING WE HAVE TO INCLUDE, WE WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL.
SO THERE'S MORE, UM, INFORMATION WITHIN THE, UH, WITHIN YOUR ANNUAL REPORT.
AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN, UH, FORWARDED TO YOU GUYS, SO YOU CAN DIGEST THAT AT YOUR LEISURE I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ANYTIME AFTER YOU GET THROUGH THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, UH, WITH WHAT YOU'VE SEEN THINGS CHANGE, YOU GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH TEXT.
AND I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO YOU GUYS STILL HAVE IT IN PLAY, BUT THEY'RE STILL ASSIGNED IN MIAMI, RIGHT.
SO NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IS NOT ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE START.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD START.
UM, UH, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY, WE'VE NOT BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IN A WHILE.
IN FACT, UM, I KNOW THERE WERE A FEW THAT WERE ACTIVE, UH, FROM OUR STAND EIGHT, 10 YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY REQUESTS, NO MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO DO IT, OR ONE NEIGHBOR COULD JUST START SENDING LETTERS TOWARDS THE OTHER NEIGHBORS.
SO, UH, RESOURCES, IF YOU GO ONLINE TO, UM, UH, NATIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AND NW, UM, THEY KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE STEPS AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, FORM A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, GET A MEETING TOGETHER AND THEN INVITE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THE INVITATIONS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY, UM, WE STARTED LOOKING AT, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER POSITION.
UM, HE WAS KIND OF THE PERSON THAT WOULD GO TO THOSE.
UM, IT STARTED, UH, WITH A, UH, THERE'S A, UH, A WEBSITE AND AN APPLICATION, ACTUALLY, A
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PHONE APPLICATION AS WELL CALLED NEXT DOOR.UM, SOME, SOME, UH, JURISDICTIONS HAVE, HAVE USED THEM WITH VARYING DEGREES OF SUCCESS.
I KNOW ROBBY TRIED TO KIND OF START IT UP WITH US BEFORE HE MOVED ON, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY GET MUCH TRACTION.
SO SOMETHING WE COULD PERHAPS TRY AGAIN, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T, DIDN'T GET MUCH FEEDBACK I'M ON NEXT DOOR.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE, SIR.
SO WHEN HE SAYS THIS ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND, UM, UM, DID A LITTLE PRESENTATION THAT THERE ISN'T DETAILS INSIDE THE AGENDA FOR COUNCIL FOR REVIEW THERE TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS THAT ARE, AND SOME OF THE STATISTICS.
UH, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THERE.
UM, $40,000 ANNUALLY IS WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING.
SO BASED ON WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING, UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT NUMBER COULD GROW.
UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO BID IF WE WERE TO ABSORB THE CREDIT CARD FEES AND, UM, UH, ANOTHER VENDOR TO MAKE IT EASIER ON US THERE.
UM, IF WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH PERMANENTLY REMOVING THE CREDIT CARD FEES, WE WOULD HAVE A TOWN TOAD.
UM, UH, LET'S SEE HERE, THE, UH, ONLINE TRANSACTIONS, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, INCREASED FROM DECEMBER OF 2019 TO DECEMBER OF 2000 SPAWNING.
OH, WE HAD A 34% INCREASE IN THE ONLINE TRANSACTIONS.
UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OF ALL GROUND WAS, UH, HOW COVID AFFECTED US, UM, ANNUALLY, UH, WE WERE RECEIVING ABOUT 11, 12,000, 12,000, UH, CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS.
UH, THAT'S OUT OF 86,000 THINGS THAT WE RECEIVED.
UM, LET'S SEE HERE CREDIT CARD GAMES DO CURRENTLY MAKE UP 26% LIKE THE, UH, 20, 20 CALENDAR YEAR OF TRANSACTIONS, UM, UH, BROKEN DOWN INTO UTILITY BILLS IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE $140,000 AND JUST BREAK IT STRICTLY DOWN TO UTILITY BILLS, UM, UH, THE STORE, UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT A DOLLAR 77 PER, UH, PER UTILITY BILL.
UM, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OLDER, YOU THERE, UH, PROPOSE, UM, OBVIOUSLY I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO OUT AHEAD AND OBTAIN A LOWER RATE FOR OUR CREDIT CARD FEES, UH, THAT CAN BE PAID AS THE GOING OUT TO BED TO HAVE A BETTER SELECTION.
THERE ALSO A MOON'S A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE COMPANY IN THE FUTURE FOR UTILITY BILLING.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK AT OTHER VENDORS AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN OFFER US.
UH, CURRENTLY WE PAY ABOUT $12,000 ANNUALLY FOR CUSTOM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE THE CREDIT CARD FEES.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING IT'S NOT A STANDARD PRACTICE, UH, FOR, UH, ELECTRIC UTILITIES TO CHARGE A THIRD PARTY.
UH, SO WE DID HAVE TO HAVE A CUSTOM SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTED ON THAT.
SO THAT WILL BE A BIT OF A SAVINGS THERE.
UM, ANOTHER PRO BRING THOSE TWO WERE, I MADE A PAYBACK CHARACTER CHECK, UM, THE, UH, THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION, A LOT OF, A LOT OF TIMES THE PUBLIC, AND THEN THEY WANNA KNOW WHY WE CHARGE YOUR CREDIT CARD TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO WALMART OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT, AND THEY DON'T CHARGE OUR FEES AND EXPLAIN IT, OR A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND GOVERNANCE.
UM, AND, UM, UH, THE CONS OBVIOUSLY I WOULD BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE THAT THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO ABSORB.
UM, AND, UH, THE EXPENSE, UH, VERY WELL WOULD PROBABLY INCREASE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MORE PEOPLE, UH, GOING TO USE THE CREDIT CARD FEES.
I'M GOING TO USE CREDIT CARDS.
I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S VERY BRIEF, UH, PUT A LOT MORE DETAIL INTO THAT PACKET, AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DIG INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL COUNSEL, THE LINE.
UM, BUT AS I SHARED THE LAST TIME, UM, MY CONCERNS AND I CAN SHARE, NOW I CAN SHARE THEM, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, LIKE WHEN, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN A HAS A $250 ELECTRIC BILL AND THEY PAY BY CHECK OR CASH, WE COLLECT $250 THROUGH THEIR ELECTRIC BILL SYSTEM.
B HAS A $250 ELECTRIC BILL PAYS WITH A CREDIT CARD.
WE DON'T COLLECT $250 FOR INCENTIVES TO ME.
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ESSENCE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S GIVING A DISCOUNT TO THE CITIZENS WHO ARE USING CREDIT CARD.I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE FOR THINGS TO BE FAIR, SOMETIMES THAT CONSTRAINTS SOMETIMES THAT'S A WEEK.
THE, AND I THINK THAT'S THE IDEA IT'S CONVENIENT FOR SOMEBODY TO PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD.
UM, I KNOW SOMEBODY SAID THE LAST TIME, WELL, THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS, BUT IF WE WERE A BUSINESS, UM, WHICH I KNOW PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THE TOWN REALLY IS A BUSINESS, BUT IF WE WERE A BUSINESS, THEN WE WOULD BE EATING THAT OUT OF OUR PROFITS.
BUT AS A GOVERNMENT, WE ARE ACTUALLY, EVERY CITIZEN IS GOING TO SHARE THE EXPENSE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S CONVENIENCE, UM, THE PUBLIC AS BJ.
SO THE POET THINKS FOR SOME REASON THAT THE, WE COLLECT THAT MONEY FROM THE CONVENIENCE FEE, BUT IT'S REALLY WHAT WE USE TO PAY.
WHOEVER IS PROCESSING THAT, UM, PROCESSING THE CREDIT CARD.
I MEAN, I, I PAY CONVENIENCE FEES.
I RECOGNIZE THAT MY CHILDREN, UM, THEIR RENT AT COLLEGE, UM, I PAID LIKE TWO 75 EVERY TIME WE USE, UH, THE DEBIT CARD.
AND, BUT EVERY OTHER TENANT THAT'S IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX MAY OR MAY NOT, THEY MAY SEND IN A CHECK.
UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT FAIR.
AND I KNOW WE SAY 120,000, 140,000, AND WHILE IN A $50 MILLION BUDGET, 140,000 MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A LOT.
HOWEVER, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT $140,000 CAN DO ALSO FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT PAY BY CHECK ARE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR OLDER POPULATION THAT PEOPLE PAY BY CASH.
MAYBE DON'T HAVE A CREDIT CARD.
AND SO WE'RE GETTING THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THEIR ELECTRIC BILL, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING IT FOR EVERYONE.
AND I HAVE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, AND THEY'VE SHARED THE SAME CONCERNS.
ALTHOUGH I DID HAVE A TEACHER APPROACHED ME LAST WEEK AND SAY, HEY, THAT IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
IF YOU GUYS DO THAT, BECAUSE NOW I CAN CHARGE THAT.
AND APPARENTLY HIS CASH BACK GOES TOWARDS PAYING HIS MORTGAGE BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY OR WHATEVER.
AND SO HE WAS LIKE, THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
SO I, MY FEAR IS THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET MILES OR CASH BACK.
I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THIS, AT LEAST NOT AT THIS POINT.
I SEE SOME OF THE PROS, BUT I JUST DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S FAIR TO MAKE EVERY CITIZEN PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S CONVENIENCE.
SORRY, I ALREADY HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU ESTIMATED IT AS A DOLLAR 77 PER CUSTOMER PER MONTH, RIGHT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN $2.
$2 THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE PAYING FOR.
SO IT'S $2, $2 DOLLARS A MONTH.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS.
UM, NUMBER ONE, IT IS A BUSINESS.
UM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UTILITIES, WHICH WE TECHNICALLY ARE IN THE BUSINESS TO GENERATE ENOUGH MONEY TO RUN THE BUSINESS EFFECTIVELY.
AND PART OF RUNNING THE BUSINESS EFFECTIVELY IS MAKING IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR BILLS.
UM, AND SO I DO THINK THERE IS A, THERE'S A CROSSOVER POINT WHERE, UM, WHERE THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE ABSORBED AS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS, WHICH IN TURN WOULD BE PASSED OFF TO THE CUSTOMERS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
SO AS WE TALK ABOUT, UH, INCREASING, UH, UTILITY BILLS, AND THEN I THINK THAT THIS GOES INTO THAT ANALYSIS THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, EVERY THREE YEARS OR SO WITH THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR OUR UTILITY FUNDS AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SO MAKE A CHANGE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, JUMP OFF THAT LEDGE AT A CERTAIN POINT.
AND THEN OVER TIME WE WILL, RIGHT, UH, OR SELF ADJUST OUR BILLS FOR THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
AND YET WE'LL BE ABSORBING IT IN THE, IN THAT, IN THAT COST.
BUT, UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT EVERY OTHER BUSINESS AND COMPANY DOES.
UM, UH, WHEN, WHEN PROVIDING CREDIT CARDS AS AN OPTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
I ALSO THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP COLLECT MORE, UH, FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO AREN'T CURRENTLY PAYING THEIR BILLS AND WANTING TO DO IT FROM A DRAFT FROM A BANK ACCOUNT OR WHATEVER, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO PAY OR NOT WORRY ABOUT NECESSARILY THE TIMING OF PAIN, BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO PUT IT ON A CREDIT CARD AND KNOW THAT THEY COULD PAY THREE DAYS LATER AND NOT GET A 10% LATE FEE BY THE WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S, THAT, THAT ASPECT OF IT AS WELL.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO LOOK AT IT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE PERSON PAYS THEIR BILL TO REMAIN TRAPPED AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR GOOD
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CITIZENSHIP FOR THE COMPANY AND THE OTHER PERSON WANTS TO USE A CREDIT CARD.SO THEY'RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE COMPANY BECAUSE IT'S COSTING THEM MORE, IT'S UP TO US TO RUN THE BUSINESS.
SO I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE GENERAL FUND AND, UH, AND THE WAY WE'RE DOING BUSINESS AS A GOVERNMENT, I SEE IT AS WE'RE DELIVERING, UM, UTILITY SERVICES THROUGH OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND WE ACCOUNT FOR ALL THOSE COSTS, JUST LIKE WE'RE OUT AT THERE'S.
LIKE WE WERE TO ADD AN EXTRA STAFF MEMBER TO, UM, IMPROVE THAT PROGRAM OR IMPROVE THAT BENEFIT.
EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY THE COST OF IT, BUT IT MIGHT BENEFIT SOME, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHERS.
SO FOR ME, IT'S JUST A PRINCIPLE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S, BUT I SEE THIS AS ONE AREA OF GOVERNMENT THAT'S WORKING AT PEAK EFFICIENCY AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND TRY AND FIX IT WHEN IT'S NOT BROKEN.
UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY REALLY THESE, I HAVE TO SAY THERE, I MEAN, YOU SAID THE OTHER POINT IS PROBABLY THIS BREAKS DOWN ACCORDING TO WHAT PEOPLE DO.
SO THE 26% OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO USE YOUR CREDIT CARDS ARE GOING TO BE, I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THE FIRMS ON THE OTHER 75% WHO DON'T, AREN'T GOING TO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO HAVE SAID THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD, WHAT ELSE? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS ON STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT BASED ON THE PROS AND CONS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND REMOVE.
THE MAIN THING IS WHILE I'VE HEARD AND LISTENED TO EVERYONE, WHEN YOU DO LOOK AT THE, UH, HIGHER PROFITABILITY THAT PEOPLE NOW WILL PAY, INSTEAD OF NOT PAY THAT'S THE REVENUE THAT, THAT IS CAUGHT UP, OFFSET THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD.
THAT JUST GIVES ANOTHER MEANS FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD MORE COMFORTABLE TO PAY.
SO WHAT IF IT WAS AN AUTO DRIVE SET UP ON YOUR CREDIT CARD, AND THEN YOU WAIVE THE FEE DJ? WELL, THERE IS AUTO DRAFT ON YOUR BANK.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AN AUTO DRAFT THROUGH CREDIT CARDS CURRENTLY.
HOW DO YOU DO WITH YOUR BANK ACCOUNT? UM, THE SOFTWARE SET UP RATA NUMBERS AND CHECKS.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT SET UP FOR, UH, GROUP CENTER IN CREDIT CARD INFORMATION.
UH, THERE'S A WHOLE GAMUT OF PCI COMPLIANCE THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
UH, NOT MANY CURRENTLY NOT MANY SOFTWARE VENDORS OFFER THAT AS PART OF THE UTILITY BILLING OPTION.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY COULD LOOK FOR IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION AGAIN.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POINT THOUGH ABOUT, UM, THE CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS, MAKING IT MORE POSSIBLE TO PAY, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PAY, YOU DON'T GET THE SERVICE.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CREDIT CARDS HELP, BECAUSE A LOT OF, A LOT OF CUSTOMERS THAT COME TO US, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THEY HAVE A CREDIT CARD, BUT THEN AGAIN, THEY'RE LITTLE BIT MORE RELUCTANT BECAUSE OF THE FEE TOO, FOR SOME REASONS.
SO SOMETIMES THEY'RE FORCED TO GO AHEAD AND USE A CREDIT CARD, BUT IF YOU HAVE A CREDIT CARD, THEY SEEM TO BE MORE AMENABLE TO PAY IT BECAUSE THEY'RE LIVING OFF OF CREDIT MEDICINES.
THERE'S PROBABLY A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE USED THAT CARD IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FEE.
SO THEN WE'LL SEE THAT MONEY COMING IN FASTER TO ALL THE REASONS THAT LAURIE SAID, PEOPLE MIGHT USE IT OR GETTING MILES OR CASH BACK.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THAT EVERY MONTH ANYWAY, WHY NOT GET SOME CASH BACK ON IT? YEAH.
I'M GOING TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST.
AND THIS MAY KIND OF LIKE OXYMORON, CAUSE I'M SAYING I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT.
IF WE GO TO THIS, I WILL ABSOLUTELY.
WELL, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU THAT THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID AWAY WITH THE CREDIT CARD PIECE IN THE SPRING, I LITERALLY HAD FIVE FRIENDS THAT SAID, OH YEAH, WHY WOULDN'T I DO THAT? BECAUSE THEN I GET, AND THERE'S LIKE, THEIR AMAZON CARD GIVES THEM AMAZON DOLLARS.
AND, AND THEN WHEN WE POSTPONED THE TAX PAYMENTS, I HAD A FRIEND THAT, SO YEAH, I GOT THE MONEY, BUT WHY WOULD I PAY THAT? NOW I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT IN MY BANK ACCOUNT AND EARN MONEY AND THEN PAY IT WHEN IT'S DUE.
I'M JUST SAYING PEOPLE THAT ARE FINANCIAL, LIKE THAT, LIKE $2 HERE, $3, YOU KNOW, I AM, I MEAN, I, I SAID,
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UH, PUT ON THE AGENDA.LIAISON COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, 15 ITEMS, 15, UM, MAYOR, THIS MEETING HAS BEEN CHANGED BY COUNTY REQUESTS ON THE 29TH, AT 6:00 PM HERE AT TOWN HALL.
AND THE MIRROR REPRESENTS THE, UH, THE TOWN OR THE LIAISON, AND ALSO SELECT A PERSON TO SERVE WITH YOU ON THAT DAY.
JERRY, YOU WANT TO STOP? ALL RIGHT.
UM, NUMBER 11, UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST A MINIMUM OF ONE OF THE PERSON THAT SOMEBODY ELSE COULD BE HERE.
I, I WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE.
ANYBODY ELSE THAT HADN'T BEEN? I WASN'T PRESSURE ANYBODY TO DO IT.
I WAS JUST SAYING EVERYBODY'S YOUR
SO JOE AND GARY, YOU WERE IN THE LAST ONE.
UH, SO ITEM 11, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST TIME.
WE WERE ALL PRETTY MUCH IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, RIGHT? YES.
NO, NO, JUST WE WILL HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC AREA.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA FOR THE LIAISON MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO SEE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT HER.
MAYBE AT OUR DANCE IS A YOUTH LIKE POSSIBLY TALKING ABOUT SOME, YOU KNOW, YOUTH CENTER OR YOUTH ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING.
BUT AGAIN, THAT COULD BE, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
RIGHT? WHEN'S THE LAST TIME I KNOW WE HAD WANTED TO INCORPORATE THE SCHOOL.
SO ITEM 11 PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT.
WE DISCUSSED ITEM 12 AND DISCUSSION.
ANYBODY WANT TO DISCUSS IT? UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WON'T BE AT THE 26TH MEETING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT THROUGH.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT NECESSARILY FOR, I'M SORRY.
I SAY, I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK, UM, MR. NAPIER TO LOOK INTO WHAT UTILIZATION MARIJUANA MEANS.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION? I MEAN, WHERE YOU CAN BRING YOUR WEIGHT ON THE ROAD.
WERE YOU INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE DATA SAYS? IS THAT WHAT THE LAST SENTENCE YOU SAID DID THAT? SORRY.
WELL, I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING THE