[Special Town Council Work Session on December 7, 2020.]
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THE DAVID, HE NEVER WON.I'D LIKE TO CALL THE COROLLA SPECIAL NEEDS DAUGHTER TO SYDNEY FOR MONDAY, DECEMBER THE SEVENTH, 2020.
UH, FIRST TIME TONIGHT, I WANT TO WELCOME STEVE HICKS, OUR NEW TOWN MANAGER, AND WE CAN, ANY OF US BE OF ANY SERVICE TO YOU, LEAVE YOU MORE THAN GLAD TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.
SO WELCOME TO A BOARD AND HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING HERE IN FRONT ROYAL AND I APPRECIATE COUNSEL HAVING HAVEN'T TRUSTED ME IN CONFIDENCE.
I MET FEW STAFF AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH AND GETTING MATT.
MAKE YOUR T WALL BY STARTING TO SEE LA THAT'S MY COP, BRO.
COUNCILMAN HOLLOWAY, COUNCILMAN MEZA JASMINE THOMPSON DEBS.
FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT OR EXEMPTION FROM THE DISCONNECTION BAN, INCLUDING INCLUDED IN THE COMMONWEALTH VIRGINIA BUDGET BILL AND APPROVED THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ACCURATE, LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IN REGARDS TO THIS, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO ONE SIGNED UP.
YOU CHECK OUT THE HALLWAY, ANYBODY.
I WANT A SPEAKER AT THE SAME EVENT THAT HASN'T SIGNED UP.
ANYBODY WANTS TO BE CARRYING HIS CLOTHES.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THE COUNCIL THROUGH AT THE END THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS ACCURATE FOR THE FOUNDER FOR ALL UTILITY ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE, GARBAGES EXCEEDING THE 1%.
FIRST OF ALL, OTHER UTILITIES OPERATING REVENUES, QUALIFY REPORT EXEMPTION FROM THE DISCONNECTION BAND, INCLUDED IT IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA BUDGET.
ANY DISCUSSION, NO DISCUSSION.
I USED TO MAKE HER SEE LA COUNCILMAN COCKEREL, COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE, COUNCILMAN HOLLOWAY, COUNSELING.
AND AS SOON AS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT LOAN FROM UNITED BANK TO FINANCE A DEBT OBLIGATION BEFORE WE, OTHER THAN HAYDEN, I LIKED TO HAVE THE SUMMARY READ.
PLEASE COUNCIL'S REQUESTED TO APPROVE A LOAN FROM UNITED BANK OF VIRGINIA BANKING CORPORATION TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA IN THE MAXIMUM AND ORIGINAL PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF 8 MILLION, $483,001 AND 15 CENTS.
THE PROCEEDS OF SUCH LOAN SHALL BE USED TO REFINANCE THE DEBT OBLIGATION EVIDENCE BY THAT CERTAIN PROMISSORY NOTE DATED OCTOBER 31ST, 2018 AS AMENDED MODIFIED EXTENDED OR RENEWED MADE BY THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA.
ALSO KNOWN AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA PAYABLE TO THE ORDER OF UNITED BANK AND TO PAY CERTAIN COSTS OF ISSUANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE LOAN, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOAN DOCUMENTS REVIEWED BY THE FRONT ROYAL TOWN COUNCIL CLERK.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED OUR PUBLIC HAIR THAT SAVED ME? IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SAVINGS ON THIS ITEM? WAS THERE LIKES TO PAY WHEN HE WAS ASLEEP? I WAS CURIOUS CLOUDS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CASTLE THERE.
COUNCIL AND APPROVE A LOAN FROM UNITED BANK IN VIRGINIA BANKING CORPORATION BECAUSE THE TOWN, THE FRONT ROW, VIRGINIA AND THE MAXIMUM AND ORIGINAL PRINCIPAL AMOUNT, EIGHT MEGAN $483,001 AND 15 CENTS.
THE PROCEEDS OF SUCH A LOAN SHALL BE USED TO REFINANCE THE DEBT OBLIGATION EVIDENCE BY THAT, BY THAT CERTAIN PROMISSORY NOTE DATED OCTOBER THE 31ST, 2018 AS AMENDED MODIFIED
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EXTENDED OR RENEWED MADE BY THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OR FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA ALSO KNOWN AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OR FRONT ROW AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA PAYABLE TO THE ORDER OF UNITED BANK AND TO PAY CERTAIN COSTS OF ISSUANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE LOAN, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOAN DOCUMENTS REVIEWED BY THE FRONT RURAL TOWN COUNCIL.I HAVE MATH, UH, W WHERE DO WE STAND ON THE TWO MONTHS OF INTEREST? OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER? DECEMBER? YEAH, THE ONE MONTH, ONE MONTH OF INTEREST WAS PART OF THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL, THIS AMOUNT AS PART OF THIS LOAN.
DOESN'T THE SECOND MONTH, UM, UNITED BANK IS NOT ASSESSING US THAT OH, GREAT.
NOW HOW THEY'RE, HOW THEY'RE HANDLING IT WITH THE EDA IS ON THEM.
IS THAT FAIR? DOUG SCORES? I KNOW THAT WE DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HEARING.
GILLESPIE COUNCILMAN HOLLOWAY.
COUNCILMAN THOMPSON DENIES ITEM FOR NOW THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON THE DISPOSITION OF THE MORTGAGE PLEDGE OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? YES, SIR.
WERE YOU OPEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EVERYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NONE OF THE CLOSE IS ME.
I MOVED THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED THE DISPOSITION MORTGAGE AND PLEDGE HAVE CERTAIN PROPERTY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS.
IS THIS, YOU KNOW, 5.2, THREE NINE, NINE ACRES, MORE OR LESS TAX MAP.
NUMBER 28, ONE DASH THREE DASH SEVEN, LOCATED AT 900 AND MONROE AVENUE FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA, TWO, TWO SIX, THREE, OH, AS FURTHER DESCRIBED IN THAT CERTAIN DEED OF TRUST PREPARED IN CONNECTION WITH A LOAN FROM UNITED BANK, VIRGINIA BANKING CORPORATION TO THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE ORIGINAL PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF 8 MILLION, $483,001 AND 15 SENTENCE.
AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, JUST HAPPY TO SEE THIS.
FINALLY, GET OVER THE FINISH LINE AND BE DONE AND NOT ON OUR AGENDA ANYMORE.
WHAT ELSE HE ASKED ME? CALL GIRL.
COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE, SALESMEN HOLLOWAY.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM FLAT PANEL APPROVAL, SUPPLEMENTAL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF ALONE IN THE AMOUNT OF EIGHT $83,001 AND 15 SAYS, HAVE YOU SEEN THE PREVIOUS REVOLUTIONS KIND OF, YOU SAID PREVIOUS PERHAPS SOLUTIONS, UM, LOU, THAT TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED THE ATTACHED SUPPLEMENTAL RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A LOAN IN THE ORIGINAL PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF 8 MILLION, $403,001 AND 15 CENTS MADE BY UNITED BANK AS LENDER TO THE TOWN AS BORROWER TO REFINANCE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS AUTHORIZING AND IMPROVING THE LOAN DOCUMENTS PREPARED IN CONNECTION WITH THE LOAN AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING CERTAIN TOWN OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE AND DELIVER THE LOAN DOCUMENTS, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE GRANTING OF A SECURITY INTEREST IN AND LEAN ON CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN AND AUTHORIZING OTHER NECESSARY ACTIONS IN CONNECTION WITH THE FOREGOING AND THE APPROVED RESOLUTION DATED OCTOBER 26, 2020, BE HERE BY EVERYTHING SECOND OR SECOND, AND THEN DISCUSSION MR. MAYOR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
THIS WAS JUST TO CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE FROM ORIGINAL ORIGINAL RESOLUTIONS AND TO FINALIZE THE PAYMENTS AND THE LOAN DOCUMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE? A ROLL CALL PLEASE? NICE.
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REPAIR PAVING PROGRAM AVENUE AND NORTH COMMERCE AVENUE TO EAST STREET.MR. MAYOR, I MOVED THE COUNCIL APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR SUBMISSION OF THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND PRIMARY EXTENSION PAVING PROGRAM APPLICATION, OR THE MILL AND OVERLAY OF NORTH RIGHT NORTH NORTH ROYAL AVENUE FROM NORTH COMMERCE AVENUE TO EAST SIXTH STREET.
AND IT TOTAL PROJECT COST $117,448.
AND IF ACCEPTABLE BEAT OUT, WE'LL REIMBURSE THE TOWN A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COSTS AS PRESENTED THE SECOND, SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION WHEN YOU THINK THAT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED UNTIL NEXT FALL BE NEXT FALL? YES MA'AM.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? VICE MAYOR C LOT.
COCKERELS COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE, COUNCILMAN HOLLOWAY, THOMPSONS CHERRY KIND OF DENIED CAPITAL GRIBBLE, FYI 21 BUDGET AMENDMENT.
ANY OF HER FUND TRANSFER FOR EMPLOYEE BONUSES.
MATTHEW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, UH, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, UH, TO MR. WILSON, BUT IN SHORT, UM, THE CARES ACT AFFORDED, UM, UM, GERMANY BODIES TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR HAZARD PAY TO CERTAIN EMPLOYEES.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, PAPERWORK THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY, UM, ACTUALLY PEOPLE REVISIONS VARIOUS REVISIONS AND IN MOST OF THOSE INSTANCES, AND IN ALL THOSE INSTANCES, WE HAD A HAZARD PAY ALLOWANCE PUT IN, UM, IN LIGHT OF, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COUNTY AS TO HOW WELL THEY WANTED US TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CARES ACT EXPENDITURES.
UH, WE DECIDED TO, UM, UH, ALLOCATE THE, UH, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, SALARIES AND WAGES IN AN EFFORT TO, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE ACCOUNTING PURPOSES TO RECEIVE MONEY BACK FROM THE COUNTY, FROM THE CARES ACT, UM, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, STAFF AND TRYING TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THE HAZARD PAY? DO WE WANT TO GET IT JUST TO THE HAZARD PAY? AND THEN WHO, UM, WHO DO YOU NOT GIVE A BONUS TO? IT WAS, UM, HONESTLY DECIDED THAT THE, THE FAIREST WAY TO DO IS JUST TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND DISPERSE IT AMONG ALL STAFF, AS IN THE FORM OF AN EMPLOYEE BONUS.
THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE FEDERAL CARES ACT MONEY THAT WE HAVE $800,000 THAT WE WERE REIMBURSED.
UM, THERE'S STILL ANOTHER 300,000, BUT THAT'S THE ROUGH SUMMARY OF THE BACKGROUND ISSUES.
NONE OF YOU COVERED ABOUT THAT BACKGROUND.
THIS MAY I MOVE TO COUNCIL APPROVE AND FYI 21 BUDGET AMENDMENT, THE AMOUNT OF 170 1004, 15 AND FLI 21 INNER FUND BUDGET TRANSFERRING AFFORDABLE TOTALING $77,280 TO ALLOCATE FUNDS TO ALLOW A ONE-TIME BONUS IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,100 IS GIVEN TO EMPLOYEES TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR THEIR HARD WORK EFFORTS, DEDICATION AND SUPPORT DURING THE COVID-19 HEALTH PANDEMIC, SECOND MOTION OR SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO BJ, UH, STAFF AND, UM, UH, MR. TJ FOR WORKING ON THIS INITIATIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT OBVIOUSLY TAKES, IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO MAKE IT FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
UM, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT, THAT, THAT MANY MUNICIPALITIES, UH, PARTICULARLY OF OUR SIZE MAY JUST NOT TAKE THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE ABLE TO DISPERSE THE FUNDS TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, UM, HAVING TO BE HERE EVERY DAY AND TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK, BUT I THINK IT WAS WORTH IT, UM, FOR OUR, FOR OUR TOWN EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IT'S A NICE WAY, UH, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, UM, TO COMPENSATE THEM.
I KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T COMPENSATE THEM FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S A NICE TOKEN OF APPRECIATION.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR, A SPECIAL MEETING.
I WILL GO INTO OUR CASTLE WORK SESSIONS 2020 PARSONS UP TONIGHT IS REVIEW CONTINUE REVIEW.
WHY AT 21 REVENUE AND CONTINUOUSLY,
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I GUESS MR. MAYOR, YOU CAN SEE IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE, OUR REVENUES ARE STILL TRACKING, UH, VERY STRONG, UH, WE'RE SHORT, AND JUST A COUPLE OF THE FEW OF THE AREAS, LODGING TAXES.WE HAVE BEEN AS WELL AS FINES AND FOR PICTURES AND, UM, RENTAL VEHICLE IN PARTICULAR.
UH, US ALSO, THE ELECTRIC SALES ARE DOWN 270 17,000 WHEN WE ARE FAIRLY STRONG WITH OUR SALES.
AND WE'RE STILL A LITTLE, LITTLE SHORT AND SEWER WILSON'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MATT SAID THERE, ELECTRIC SALES ARE TRACKING A LITTLE BELOW BUDGET.
IT'S NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR FOR US TO TRACK BELOW BUDGET.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THE CURVED MONTHS.
LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, WE WERE AT A, UM, $181,000 BELOW BUDGET.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE BELOW THAT, BUT, UH, NOT MUCH TO BE CONCERNED OVER AT THIS POINT IN TIME, STILL EARLY, UH, SAME WITH SEWER SALES SEARCH, UH, SALES RETRACT, A HUNDRED, $4,000 BUDGET.
LAST YEAR, WE WERE $143,000 BELOW BUDGET.
UM, BUT WE PICK THOSE BACK UP IN THE SPRING MONTHS.
UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST KIND OF DRAGGING THINGS AND NOTHING TO BE HIGHLY CONCERNED OVER AT THIS POINT IN TIME, JUST KEEPING OUR EYE ON YOUR LOCAL SALES TAX.
YOU'LL NOTICE LOCAL SALES TAXES, IT'S $62,000 ABOVE BUDGET, UM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE COMMENDED.
I KNOW THAT WE, AS A GOVERNING BODY HAS HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES AND EFFORTS AS WELL AS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO, UH, PROMOTE SMALL BUSINESS SHOP LOCAL INITIATIVES.
UM, AND, UM, AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S SHOWN ME THAT PEOPLE WERE SPENDING THE MONEY LOCALLY, UH, BASED UPON OUR LOCAL SALES TAX.
I SAY THE WORD, OUR DELINQUENT UTILITY, CASPER GOING BACK UP AGAIN.
UM, WE DID, UH, UH, DISCONTINUED, UH, DISCONNECT, UH, MID NOVEMBER PER THE BUDGET BILL, UH, BY THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
UH, HENCE WHY YOU SEE THAT CREEPING UP AGAIN? UM, JUST IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF TIME, YOU SEE WHAT IT, WHAT IT CAN DO WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THESE CONNECTIONS QUITE A BIT 600, 6,000.
I'M JUST IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS THERE.
SO, UH, UH, UM, WHILE WE REQUESTED THAT COUNSEL APPROVE THE EXEMPTION FOR THE BAND EARLIER THIS EVENING, UM, AND, UM, WITH THIS, UH, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UM, CONTENT THAT REALLY SAVED CONTINGENCIES OVER THE AMOUNT OF $347,000, UH, TO, UH, ALLOW FOR EMPLOYEE RAISES, I MEAN, FINAL YEAR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY.
I HAVEN'T DONE ANY PROJECTIONS AS FAR AS IF WE DON'T GET THIS APPROVED ON THIS DISCONNECT, HOW MUCH IT MIGHT BE BY SPRAY.
UM, WELL JUST, UH, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, UH, THE PREVIOUS TREND JUST FROM, UM, LET'S SEE HERE, UH, FROM OUR NORMAL, UH, FROM MAY OR FROM I'M SORRY, FROM MARCH, FROM MARCH TO MAY, UH, THERE WAS AN 81% INCREASE IN THE RECEIVABLES.
UH, SO, UH, JUST THAT ALONE, I, WE INCREASED ROUGHLY 400, $450,000.
UM, IF WE WERE TO GO INTO, UM, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH WITHOUT THIS CONNECTION, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY MORE.
UM, I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT WE WOULD TOP 1.2, 1.5 MILLION.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY NOW, GENERAL ASSEMBLY DIDN'T DO US ANY FAVORS, RIGHT.
THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY EXEMPTED THE MANIA POWER.
UM, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS IT.
I KNOW I BJ, HE PROBABLY SPENT 12 HOURS THIS WEEKEND ALONE.
THEY EXEMPT ANYBODY LIKE LYNCHBURG AND, UH, UM, THE DOMINION POWER ALLOW ME POWER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UH, INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR PAYMENTS OR DEBT FORGIVENESS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, OR JUST PEOPLE JUST DECIDING I'M JUST NOT PAYING MY BILLS ANYMORE.
UM, WHAT WE SEEN BACK DURING THE, UH, UH, DURING, UH, MARCH, APRIL AND MAY WAS, IS THAT, UH, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO DISCONNECT.
SO, UM, ACCOUNT HOLDERS WERE JUST HOLDING ONTO THE MONEY.
AS SOON AS WE ANNOUNCED WE WERE GOING TO START DISCONNECT WITH PAYMENTS CAME IN.
SO IN THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING THIS TIME AROUND, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY FOR ME TO TELL.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT WITH THAT IS IF IT GOT TO 1.2 MILLION, WE WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT ALL OF THOSE ACCOUNTS, UM, YOU KNOW, REMAINING LIQUID AND JUST DON'T PAY THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY, OR A GOOD CHUNK OF THEM WILL PROBABLY JUMP IN AND PAY, BUT WE'LL STILL HAVE A HIGHER, BAD DEBT RATIO.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE.
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, SO LET'S LOOK AT THE CONTINGENCIES FOR ELECTRIC, UM, THERE'S 675,000.UM, SO IS THAT TRULY WHAT WE HAVE IN CONTINGENCY? SO LET'S JUST SAY THE SALES CONTINUE TO TREND PAST 275,000 LESS, WENT DOWN TO 500,000.
WE REALLY HAVE THAT OFFSET AND CONTINGENCIES RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS THE OPPOSITE IN CONTINGENCY RIGHT NOW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 21 BUDGET THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE RESERVE BALANCES.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
I KIND OF, SINCE THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE HEADING, SO YES, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 21 BUCKS.
NOW THAT WILL ALSO BE ADJUSTED IN THE EVENTS YOU DO APPROVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, I ACTUALLY DON'T MEAN THE NEXT MEETING, BUT IF YOU DO APPROVE THREE 47 OF THAT, SOME OF THAT IS IN THE ELECTRIC.
SO THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT.
THE THREE 47 IS COMING OUT OF ALL THE CONTINGENCIES, RIGHT.
DO WE KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL BE BEFORE WE HEAR ABOUT THE EXEMPTION, THE EXEMPTION, WE JUST APPROVED THE EXEMPTION EARLIER THIS EVENING.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATION NOTIFICATION TO ALL ACCOUNTS THAT ARE OVER 30 DAYS AND OFFER THEM A PAYMENT PLAN, UH, RANGING FROM A SIX TO 24 MONTHS, AMORTIZING IT, UH, WE HAVE TO SEND THAT NOTIFICATION OUT.
UM, AND THEN ONCE WE'VE SENT THAT NOTIFICATION OUT, WE CAN ORIGINALLY DISCONNECT.
TIMELINE IS 60 DAYS THEREAFTER.
I ANTICIPATE WE'LL HAVE THOSE OUT THIS WEEK.
WHAT THE LETTERS WERE LIGHTNING FAST, I MEAN, WITHIN, UH, THEN ALL OVER THIS LIGHTNING FAST, BUT IT WAS ALSO SIX, UH, DAYS BASED ON, UH, ENDING THE COVID.
YES, THAT'S A THAT'S FOR THE MORATORIUM.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EXEMPTION, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT 60 DAYS UPON THE INDIVIDUAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN ORDER TO RESUME DISCONNECT.
WE JUST, UH, DID THE EXEMPTION, UM, OR APPROVED THE EXEMPTION.
WE CAN RESUME AS SOON AS WE SEND OUT THE NOTIFICATION.
UM, DISTRICTS BROUGHT A GOOD POINT.
THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND, UH, APPLICATIONS, BUSINESS.
THE, UM, UH, THE EXEMPTION IS FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, THE PAYMENT ARRANGEMENT.
SO IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESSES AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, GO BACK TO THE 347,000 AND MOSTLY FOR, UH, WHEN YOUR TIME MANAGER, MR. HICKS AND OUR, UM, COUNCILMEN ELECT, UH, MR. MCFADDEN, THEY DID, WE HAD DONE A COMPENSATION STUDY OVER THREE YEARS AGO FOR OUR TOWN EMPLOYEES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD NOW, FOR THOSE, WHO'VE HEARD THIS SLIDE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT WHEN WE DID THE COMPENSATION STUDY AND THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME COMMITTED TO IT WAS THAT WE DIDN'T FALL OFF OF THAT WAGON TWO YEARS IN OR ONE YEAR IN OR WHATEVER.
SO WE GAVE THEM, WE GAVE A COMPENSATION BUMP TO BRING PEOPLE UP TO MARKET RATES IN YEAR ONE, AND THE SKEPTICISM WAS GOING TO BE, COUNCIL'S GOING TO CHANGE OVER, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE THAT TRAJECTORY.
THUS, THE PAY SCALES WOULD FALL BEHIND AND OUR PAY SCALES ARE ALREADY RELATIVELY LOW, UM, OR ALREADY KIND OF FALLING BEHIND, BUT WE HAVE COMMITTED YEAR ONE, WE IMPLEMENTED YEAR TWO, WE PUT YOUR THREE ON HOLD COVID HAPPENED.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DRAGGING OUR STAFF ALONG ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA FUND, UM, THE MERIT INCREASES TOO, OR NOT MERIT INCREASES.
I'M SORRY, THE, UM, YEAH, THE COMPENSATION STUDY TO RIGHT-SIZE THE PAY.
UM, AND SO I'VE BEEN PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN A BONUS, DIFFERENT THAN MERIT INCREASES IN EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
THIS IS GETTING PEOPLE TO MARKET LEVEL, UM, WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR PAY.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN BEFORE I GOT OFF COUNCIL, UH, FOR THIS TERM BEFORE THE NEW NEW MEMBERS COME ON, IS THAT WE FULLY FUND THAT AND GET IT INTO PLACE SO THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE THAT PEACE OF MIND.
I KNOW THIS IS THE ONLY THREE-YEAR COMPENSATION STUDY.
I THINK THAT IT'S BEST PRACTICE FOR US.
WE SHOULD DO THIS AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR PAY GRADES ARE.
UM, AND MAKING SURE WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH MARKET RATES, UM, AND THEN MAKE A COMMITMENT TO IT.
SO I'M HAPPY THAT, UH, OH, LAST THING, 347, YOU TAKE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH OUR CONTINGENCY DOLLARS.
UM, THERE'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE IN THE CASE THAT, UM, ONE OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS OR EVEN OUR GENERAL FUND STARTS FALLING BEHIND OUR, OUR PROJECTED REVENUE AMOUNTS.
SO I APPRECIATE AGAIN, UH, MATT BJ WORKING ON, UM, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE AVAILABLE FUNDS TO FULLY FUND THE 347,000.
UM, AND, UM, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION AND I'M HAPPY THAT THAT'S THE CASE AND THAT, THAT CLOSES OUT THAT, THAT THREE-YEAR COMPENSATION STUDY.
ANYONE ELSE, MR. BRIGGS, UH, DO YOU WANT, YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY
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OR CHIME IN WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT OR ASK US, I MEAN, SORT OF SHUNNING YOU, I GUESS, TO SAVE ME A BASKET MATH TO TAKE CARE OF MOST OF THE THINGS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? SO IT IS SET, IT IS A BUDGET ITEM AT THIS POINT.I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT OTHER THAN, YEAH.
I MEAN, I DO KNOW I'M LOOKING AT IT AT THIS FIRST WITH THE, ANY OF THE COMP STUDIES AND STUFF.
UM, RECOGNIZING I HAVEN'T SEEN THE REPORT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SALARY COMPRESSION ISSUE AND HOW, HOW THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I SAID IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT IT WAS ALSO, HEY, WE JUST RANDOMLY CAME UP WITH 350,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO FUND EVERYTHING.
IT WAS PART OF A STUDY THAT WE HAD WITH IT.
UM, MATT, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OR YOU WANT TO TURN OVER THE CHEEK, I'M GOING TO START WITH THE CHIEF CHIEF, WOULD YOU START HEARING AND CONSTANT TALKING WITH CHIME IN, UM, FOR A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE? YES.
UH, MAY REMEMBERS COUNSEL, UH, THIS, THIS ITEM HAS COME TO US.
UM, IT'S, IT'S WAS A, IT'S A COMPONENT OF THE UPGRADING OF THE PHONE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
UM, WHAT THESE RECORDERS DO, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO SERVERS.
ONE RECORDS THE TELEPHONE CALLS MADE TO, AND FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE OTHER ONE RECORDS, THE RADIO TRAFFIC, AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS, UM, OFTENTIMES WHEN CALLS ARE MADE IN, AND THEN THE EXISTING RADIO TRAFFIC, THERE CAN BE A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE CALLS.
AND WITHIN THAT RADIO TRAFFIC, THAT THESE RECORDERS WILL ALLOW US TO MEMORIALIZE, SHOULD THEY EVER BE NEEDED FOR CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, UH, ORIENTED AND ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION EVEN, UM, THEY'VE GOT A RECORDER IN PLACE.
UH, I T DIRECTOR JONES HAS ADVISED US THAT THAT RECORDER, I GUESS IT WAS INSTALLED.
I WANT TO SAY, I MIGHT BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN.
UM, AND HE STARTED NOTICING, UH, SOME ERROR MESSAGES, UH, WITH, WITH THE SERVER AND RECOGNIZING THAT IT COULD BE REACHING AND THE LIFE, UM, AND DIDN'T WANT IT TO FAIL WITH THE, UH, ADDITION TO THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT WAS PUTTING IN.
SO HE'S FOUND A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS THAT WILL INTEGRATE WITH THE NEW SYSTEMS, UH, THE NEW RADIO SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN THE NEW PHONE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE CONVERTING OVER TO NOW.
UM, AND HE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
I'M KINDA MORE OF THE USER END OF THINGS.
UH, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RECORDERS IN THEIR PURPOSE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? JUST TO ADD ONE, ONE POINT FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS FOR THE SECONDARY, WE'RE WRAPPING THIS INTO THE SECONDARY PEACE APP.
UM, AND AGAIN, UM, UH, THE PLANE WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE, UH, THE CARES ACT FUNDS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TELLING THEM ALYSSA HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AS BJ, UM, IDENTIFYING A VENDOR AND GOING THROUGH AND MAKING SURE WE WERE GETTING, UM, KIND OF THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO, UM, I HAD THOUGHTS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON IF IT'S BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE CASE? I DON'T REALLY CARE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I GUESS, UH, JUST PUT THAT ON THE RECORD AGENDA.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT ON, ON THE 14TH.
WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DETERMINE, UM, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCURE THE ITEM.
UM, SO IT MAY NOT, WE MAY NOT MAKE IT UNTIL JANUARY.
TODD, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? YEAH.
WOULD YOU ASK MR. LOU ELLEN TO COME IN WHEN SHE HAD YOUR REQUEST FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO SUBMIT THESE, ALL OF THOSE PLANS? UH, MATT, YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OR YOU'RE HAPPY TO, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, YOU'LL COUNSEL IN.
I THINK THE, UH, THE SUMMARY THERE'S SELF EXPLAINING TO HER THAT I DID NOT THIS TIME LAST YEAR FROM ONE YEAR RENEWAL, IF WE DECIDE TO EXTEND IT AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
ANY DISCUSSION, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? NO, WE JUST, THIS IS PART OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS IS HAVING TO REDO IT ANNUALLY.
I WILL SAY THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS MADE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH A PARTICULAR
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POTENTIAL BUYER AND, UH, IT'S THE, PROBABLY THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WE'VE HAD QUITE A WHILE.SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE FINALLY AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMEBODY IN AND HOPEFULLY GET THEM TO DO A GOOD JOB FOR US.
ANYBODY WANT TO DISCUSS ANYTHING FURTHER OR JUST WANT TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA? WE CAN PUT THAT UNDER.
THEY CAN SAY, OKAY, THANK YOU.
GREAT REHABILITATION PROJECT DISCUSSION.
UH, MR. BANES, I THINK IS OUT IN THE HALLWAY AT THIS TIME.
I'M GOING TO TURN THIS ONE OVER TO OUR VICE MAYOR, BILL C LOCK FOR THESE 100 ON THE AGENDA, PUT HER ON THE AGENDA, UH, COUNCIL, UH, GILLESPIE AND COUNCILMAN GOLF HOLE.
I CAN MAY CAUSE WE NEED THREE.
I'VE HAD BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. MAINS AND MR. MARK FOND DOLL.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF EASY WORDS THROWN AROUND THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, PUBLIC TRUST, ILLEGAL, UH, NOTIFICATIONS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UM, MY CONCERN IS I'VE LISTENED TO THE TOWN MANAGER, STAFF AND CONCERNED CITIZENS ON THIS MATTER.
MY QUESTION WAS TO MR.
THE ONLY SECTION OF THE CREEK, WHEN I BEGAN MY TENURE ON TOWN COUNCIL, WE HAD GONE THROUGH A FLOODING OF DOWNTOWN SECTION OF THE CREEK, AND THAT WAS IN 17.
THIS COUNCIL WAS REQUESTED BY CONSTITUENTS AT THAT TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
SO WE PUT HER ON OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
HE'S ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED AS A COUNCIL, UH, QUESTIONS COME TO MIND WAS THE PROPER NOTICE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC REVIEW.
UM, REVISED PLAN ON RIP RAP HAS BEEN GOING UP TO INCLUDE FIVE FEET VERSUS 15 FEET ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE BANK.
AND THE SECTION OF THE CREEK FIVE SAY FIVE FEET SECTIONS ARE NEEDED TO ELIMINATE FUTURE OR RODENTS SECTIONS, 15 FEET SECTIONS ALONG THE BANK IS ELIMINATED NEGLECTED EROSIONS.
AND THAT'S VERY EVIDENT MR. POND DOFF.
AND I HAD AN EXTENDED PHONE CALL AND THAT'S TODAY, UM, EMAIL STATING ARTIFICIAL ROCKS DO NOT BEAUTIFY THIS SECTION OF THE CREEK.
THEY AREN'T ARTIFICIAL ROCKS, THEY'RE RIP RAP.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH PUBLIC TRUST AND MISINFORMATION, GOOD.
THE TRACTOR AND THE CREEK BED DISTURBED PREVIOUS LATERALS OR FINGERS, NOT PRESENTLY IN THE CREEK BED, THESE LATERALS OR FINGERS SLOW UP THE FAST MOVING WATER IN THE CREEK BED AND PROVIDES THE LIFE FOR THE CREATURES IN OUR CREEK.
WITH THAT SAID, WHEN I INSPECTED THAT ON THAT FATAL DAY, WALKING AT THERE'S ONLY TWO FINGERS IN THAT WHOLE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REMAINDER? SUPPOSEDLY I HEARD FROM VARIED BY ALL.
WE USED TO HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM AND WE SHOULD HAVE, THERE SHOULD BE REBELS.
AND, AND I MUST SAY, AS A HIKER, FORMER HIKER, PERFORMER, FISHERMEN, UH, FISH DOWN BELOW MARLO'S THAT MY GRANDDAUGHTER CAUGHT HER FIRST TROUT RIGHT THERE.
SO I'M QUITE SURE NO, YOU'RE THIS, BUT THEY WEREN'T THERE.
IT WAS NOT THE TRACTOR IT'S GONE.
THE ROCKS WERE NOT BIG ENOUGH AND MILESTONE, AND I'M NOT THE ENGINEER THAT DESIGNED THE PLAN.
UM, WHAT I SEE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONTRACTOR VIOLATED THE PROVISIONS OF CUTTING TREES LESS THAN FOUR INCHES, AND MUST BE RECTIFIED TO RESTORE PUBLIC TRUST.
PUBLIC TRUST THINKING SECTION REPAIRS WERE NOT NEEDED WHEN THEY WERE, IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WALK THE BANKS, UM, RESTORATIVE WOULD TRUST TO PLANT NEW TREES, THE ASSISTANCE SCREENING THE TRAFFIC ON COMMERCE AVENUE,
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AS EVIDENCE, RIGHT? YES.WE PLANNED TO BEAUTIFY THAT WHOLE SECTION WITH THREES AND WHATEVER'S NECESSARY.
UM, LIKE REVIEW WAS SET OF COMMUNITY PERSONS WHO HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS.
AND I EMPHASIZE NATIVE GRASSES AND TREES TO BE PLANTED.
THERE NEED TO BE NATIVE GRASSES IN THAT WATERWAY.
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY A TREE POPS UP, UM, REVIEW ALL THE PROCESSES, PUBLIC NOTICES FOR FUTURE WORK ON THE HAPPY CREEK SECTIONS.
WE CAN'T LET THESE SECTIONS OF THAT CREEK GO FOR 17 YEARS.
THERE'S GOTTA BE A PLAN IN PLACE.
AND THIS COUNCIL WAS SMART ENOUGH AND FORESAW AFTER THE FLOODS THAT SOMETHING WAS NEEDED DOWN THERE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THIS TASK ON RE-ESTABLISH THE LATERALS AND FINGERS AND THE CREEK BED IT'S GOTTA BE DONE.
DIRECTORS TOLD ME THERE IS PLANS TO WORK ON THE CREEK BED.
NOW I'M NOT AN EXPERT, I'M JUST THE FISHERMEN.
AND I KNOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TO CAST CASTLE LINE IN THE WATER.
SO NATIVE GLASSES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CREEK BED TO ASSIST VEGETATION LIFE ALSO, IT WAS NEEDED.
AND I KEEP EMPHASIZING THAT DON'T FOCUS ON THE BANKS.
DON'T FOCUS ON, UM, TREES, A MISTAKE BY A CONTRACTOR, WHETHER YOU UNDERSTOOD THE CONTRACT OR NOT THE TOWN I FEEL SHOULD BE READILY ACCEPTABLE TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM.
AND I THINK WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION WITH MR. REMAIN.
SO YOU LIKE TO GIVE US THREE MINUTES OF WHAT HE THINKS SHOULD BE DONE.
AND I, I FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF AND THE TOWN MANAGERS HAD WORKED WITH A SMALL GROUP, NOT 17 OF THEM, TWO OR THREE THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THIS AREA, WHAT GRASSES SHOULD BE PUT IN, WHAT TYPES OF TREES AND ARE, YOU KNOW, FORGET THIS WALKWAYS DOWN TO THE CREEK BED AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN THROWN OUT.
UM, BUT PLANTING TREES AND GRASSES AND GETTING SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS, I KNOW LOCAL HISTORIES, I BURNED LOCA.
I LIKE BURNING LOCUSTS, BUT DON'T ASK BILL C LOCK.
WHAT TYPE OF TREE TO PUT IN THAT RIVER BANK? CAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A SMALL GROUP WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE TOWN MANAGER AND DEVISE THE PLAN.
CAUSE THE RIP RAP IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S NOT FAKE ROCK AND IT'S GOT TO HAPPEN.
MR. MAINS IS OVER SHAKING HIS HEAD POSITIVE THING.
OH, OVER ON THE BANK WHERE THE BIKE PATH IS THAT IS SOME SEVERE EROSION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, IT'S WITHIN A COUPLE OF FEET, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, OF THAT BIKE PATH.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RIFF RAFF IS WITHOUT QUESTION, WITHOUT QUESTION, MR. MEANS WE'RE STANDING HERE AND I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO VIOLATE ONE OF THE RULES THAT I HAD FALL TOWARDS SINCE I'VE LS COUNSELOR FOR FOUR YEARS, THAT WORK SESSIONS OR WORK SESSIONS.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS.
HE WANTS TO GIVE US THREE MINUTES CAUSE HE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN HIMSELF.
I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE GIVEN HIM THREE MINUTES TO CARRY THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE FURTHER.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN HOUR, BUT YOU KNOW, SEPARATE FROM THIS.
I JUST WANT YOU TO, UH, TODD, IS THERE A WAY TO TURN THAT ON? I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THE JUMP DRUNK.
I HAD THE MONITOR ON, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SHOW, I'M NOT ABLE TO SHOW IT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S HOW I WAS GOING TO DO MY THREE MINUTES.
UM, CAN YOU, AND I REALLY ONLY WANTED TO SHOW 15, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE CRITICAL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
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YOU NEED, ALTHOUGH WHAT I DID HERE WAS YOU NEED A PLAN TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS.YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DYNAMICS GOING ON WITH WATER AND YOU GET MOVING WATER.
I KNOW ON THE, UH, SUBMISSION TO THE DEQ, IT WAS GREATER THAN 20 SQUARE MILES OF WATER SHIFT.
I DID THE TAKEOFF AND IT'S SEVEN OR IT'S UH, IT'S 14.7 SQUARE MILES BRINGS IT UNDER THE CURVE.
SO NOW YOU'VE GOT A SLIGHTLY REDUCED WATERSHED, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, YOU CAN'T CONTROL HURRICANES.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET FLOODED HALF THE TOWN, THE BUSINESS AND THE OLDER SECTION IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
IF YOU, IF YOU RAISE THE BANKS, YOU ARE CONCENTRATING THAT WATER.
IT'S GOING TO HIT THE SHANNON DOLA AND HARD.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO, WHAT I HAD REALLY GREAT SLIDES FOR WAS TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES IN SOME OF THE CALCULATIONS MADE.
AND SOME, SOME OF THE REASONING THAT GOES BEHIND WHY WE DO THINGS CERTAIN WAYS AND IT'S CALLED NATURAL STREAM DESIGN.
AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH BASED ON THE ROSKINS YOU GET MORE THICK STREAM DESIGN CHALLENGE.
SO THAT FOR YOU, WHY YOU POINTED OUT? OH YEAH, WELL I GET CRAZY MY HANDS.
SO I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT UM, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WELL HERE'S, WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED.
YOU NEED REALLY NEED TO DO A CROSS SECTION STUDY.
YOU NEED TO DO A SLOPE ANALYSIS.
UM, WHERE ARE THE STRUCTURES GOING TO GO THAT ARE GONNA DO THE BEST FOR, FOR THE DESIGN OF THE STREAM.
YOU CAN'T BE PUTTING ROCK VEINS JUST OUT IN THE STREAM JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SOMETHING TO DO.
SO WITH THE WATERS CUTTING INTO THE BANK WHERE THAT BIG OLD SYCAMORE IS AND UNDERCUTTING THE BANK, THAT'S WHERE YOU'D HAVE TO APPLY SOME OF THESE ROCK THINGS AND YOU DO IT IN A WAY.
SO THE WATER PRESSURE HITS IT.
IT ACTUALLY SPINS AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF IT.
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT EROSION.
I THINK THAT CERTAIN AREA IS, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF FIVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THIS A LOT OF ROCK WAY MORE THAN 38,000.
SO I'M JUST THINKING, WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? BECAUSE HAS, I MEAN, THANK YOU ROBBIE, BUT IT, ROBBIE DID GIVE ME THE, THE BID SHEET FOR THE ROCK THAT THE TOWN HAS, UH, AWARDED THE, THE CONTRACTOR.
AND WE'RE TALKING A LOT OF ROCK UP TO FOUR, 4,000 TONS.
THAT'S A LOT MORE CLOSER TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO WHAT I'M THINKING, THE ROCK THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED THAT'S CURRENTLY AT THE PROSPECT STREET BRIDGE IS CALLED CLASS ONE ROCK.
AND THERE'S CERTAIN GRADIATIONS OF THAT.
AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT WAS CERTAIN VOLUME AND VELOCITY.
I, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO DOWN TO EIGHTH STREET, START AT THAT LOW WATER BRIDGE THERE AND WALK TOWARDS THE SHENANDOAH RIVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BANK.
AND AS YOU'RE WALKING AND LOOK INTO THE WATER, THERE ARE BLOCKS THAT ARE 6,000 POUNDS.
CLASS THREE, REBRAND YOU'LL FALL ONE.
AND OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S A WASTE.
THE ROCK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE DISNEY STRUCTURES UP BETWEEN PROSPECT AND SOUTH.
THEY HAD SOME EXTRA TIME ON THE DOCKET WHERE THEY COULD BRING THAT MACHINE UP AND DO SOME WORK UP IN THAT STRETCH BECAUSE THEY HAD SPENT SO MUCH TIME OR THEY WERE SO FAST AT WHAT THEY DID DOWN, UH, UH, YEAH, EAST OF H YOU KNOW, GOING DOWNSTREAM OF EIGHTH STREET THAT THEY BROUGHT THE EQUIPMENT UP, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE ROCK.
SO WHAT THEY DID USE WAS THEY USE WHAT WAS ON SITE AND PLACE.
THINGS ON SITE ROCKS WERE RIVER ROCKS.
THEY ROLL, YOU GET ENOUGH VOLUME.
AND THOSE THINGS ARE DOWN THE RIVER.
THERE'S YES, TWO STRUCTURES THAT ARE CALLED
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THEY'RE A V-SHAPE, BUT THERE'S, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THERE'S FIVE MORE STRUCTURES, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF SPREAD OUT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ROLLING DOWN THE RIVER.SO EITHER YOU, EITHER YOU PUT SOME FLAT SIDE ON THEM AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY DOUBLE STACK THEM.
IN FACT, WHERE THOSE SYCAMORES ARE, UH, EVEN ONE, A 6,000 POUND ROCK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY AROUND AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD BASE, PUT THE NEXT ROCK ON TOP.
SO YOU BRING IT UP TO YOUR GRADE.
BUT, UM, NO, I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THIS WASN'T THOUGHT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY GOOD WAYS TO DO THINGS AND IT MIGHT COST A LITTLE MORE CERTAINLY DESIGN WISE.
IT WOULD, UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU MEASURE TWICE CUT MONTHS.
SO BEFORE WE EVEN GO IN THE STREET, BEFORE WE EVEN CUT A TREE, BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING, LET'S HAVE A PLAN IN PAPER, PROBABLY.
I MEAN, YOU JUST LOOKING AT THE ENS PLAN THAT THE CHS SENT BACK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A QUALITY AND THAT REALLY GIVES YOU SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.
UH, BUT, UH, I MEAN, BEFORE IT WAS TRAGIC, SO I'M SORRY I GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE THIS IS MY WORLD.
AND I, I DO, UH, I DO MR. MEANINGS, ARE THESE THE ROCKS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? EIGHTH STREET? YEAH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THEM.
SO I SHARED THIS WITH COUNSEL.
I WENT DOWN, MR. MUNIS MET WITH, UH, MR. COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE AND I THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND TOOK US DOWN BELOW EIGHTH STREET.
UM, AND GERTRUDE MILLER PARK, LIKE BEYOND CLOSER TO LIKE BETWEEN FANTASY LAND, ABOUT THE SOFTBALL FIELD AND THESE, THESE PARTICULAR ROCKS WERE THE ONES THAT ARE NUMBERED.
IT'S NOT THE BEST PICTURES, BUT I SENT YOU ALL SAW THEM.
WHAT WAS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THEY WERE LIKE FLAT AND THIS PICTURE REALLY DOESN'T DO IT.
WEREN'T THEY? GARY, LIKE, I MEAN LIKE PEOPLE SIZE, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS HOLDING BANK IN PLACE, CORRECT? YEP.
AND I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO SAY HIS NAME WRONG, MR. FOND OR RON RON DOR, MR. FRONZ OR I BELIEVE HE TOLD US THAT DAY THAT THIS WAS PART OF A PROJECT FROM THE FORMER VIRGINIA GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES.
SO THEY, I BELIEVE FINANCE OR FUNDED THIS, CORRECT? YES.
SO I'M IMAGINING THESE ROCKS WOULD COST A LOT MORE THAN WHAT OUR PLAN IS CURRENTLY.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW, MR. BRIAN DORF AT THE TIME MENTIONED THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT CALLED GAMING INLAND FISHERIES ANYMORE.
WHAT'S IT CALLED? APARTMENT OF WILDLIFE AND RESOURCES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO FIND SOMEBODY IN THEIR BUDGET TO HELP US, LIKE, I WOULD IMAGINE THOSE ROCKS WOULD BE PERFECT ON THAT TREE THAT KIND OF FALLING IN OVER THERE, ON THE PROJECT FOR TALKING ABOUT, ANYWAY, I SHARED THESE PICTURES WITH ALL OF YOU, ALL THE EMAIL.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN UNTIL WE WERE HERE.
CAUSE I WENT DOWN IN THE DARK AND TOOK THEM BEFORE WE CAME DOWN HERE.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT THOSE WERE THE ROCKS THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO, CORRECT? YEP.
I WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE THAT THE PROGRAM IS GOING FORWARD.
BUT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT BOND OR, OR SOME OF LIKE PRESIDENTS THAT ARE SPECIALISTS RATHER THAN A COUNCILMAN MEET AND START DECIDING ON HOW WE PUT GRASSES IN THE CREEK BED, HOW WE PLANT THE TREES, WHAT TYPE OF TREES, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND GET THAT BANK, THE UPPER BANK, THE LANDING, I THINK, IS WHAT WE CALL IT, GET THAT BACK IN ORDER AND ESPECIALLY THE AREA WHERE THE CUT TREES, THE CONTRACTOR OR THE SOUTH END.
OR HE WAS TERMINATED FROM DOING BUSINESS.
SO I MEAN, THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE SAVED.
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS IMPORTANT TO US.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM FOR HIM TO HAVE DAVE AND HAD OUR NEW TOWN MANAGER, MR. HICKS, UM, PROBABLY ROBBIE WORKED TOGETHER AND TRY TO PUT UP A COMMITTEE AND THE, THAT COMMITTEE WITH, ESPECIALLY DAVE IN YOUR CASE FOR THE THREE STORIES,
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ALL THAT FOR YEARS, UH, IS THAT WHAT YOUR PLANS WOULD BE? OKAY.WELL, BEFORE WE STAND UP A COMMITTEE, UM, I, I THINK I WANT TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THAT COMMITTEE.
UM, SO, UM, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MEANS, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS A PASSION OF YOURS AND YOU'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR YEARS, UH, TO HELP US WITH THIS.
AND THEN, UH, IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT BILL SAID ABOUT MAKING SURE, UM, THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC TRUST, I WANT TO JUST WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
CAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN AT FIRST WHEN WE WERE GOING AFTER THIS.
AND SO, UM, I CAN CLARIFY THAT.
SO ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE WAS A VERY CLEAR PLAN THAT WAS DESIGNED BY ENGINEERS.
UM, YOU DISAGREE WITH THE ENGINEERS, BUT WE USED ENGINEERS TO, UH, DESIGN THE PLAN AND SUBMIT IT THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES.
IS ZACK CORRECT? ROBBIE? OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING THERE? YES.
SO I, Y THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE SOME FEW TOWN EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE BACKROOM AND LIKE, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO LOOK AWESOME.
LET'S JUST CUT THE TREES DOWN AND THROW SOME ROCK IN HERE.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD PREFER TO SEE A DIFFERENT DESIGN THAN WHAT'S BEING DONE AND PREFER TO USE SOME OF THE NATURAL HABITAT AROUND THERE.
UM, THEN THE WAY THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
SO ALL THAT, ALL I'M SAYING IS IF WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE PLANS, UNLESS I'VE HEARD COUNSEL SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE, PAY ANOTHER ENGINEER TO COME IN AND REDESIGN THE PLAN.
IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, THEN WHAT ARE WE ASKING THE COMMITTEE TO DO? THIS IS WHAT ABOUT JOSEPH GRASSES AND TREES AND IMPROVE AFTER THE FACT PERHAPS GOING IN, WE GOT A DATE ON IT YET YOU GET THE NS APPROVAL TOMORROW, OR WEDNESDAY HAS BEEN CHANGED.
AND THE RIP RAP THAT'S BEING INSTALLED WAS BASED ON THE ENGINEERING PLAN, THAT ON THE BOSS VELOCITY TO THE CREEK, WHEN IT IS FLOODING, THAT WON'T TAKE THE RIP RAPPER AWAY.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE STATED BECAUSE IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY.
NOW YOU'VE GOT A REINFORCEMENT PLAN, WHICH WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
WELL, I'M OKAY WITH HELPING TO IMPROVE, UH, THE BANKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
AND HAVING, UH, CITIZEN COMMITTEES TO HELP WITH THAT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
I JUST DON'T WANT WITH THE INTEREST THAT THERE'S BEEN AROUND THIS, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE FALSE EXPECTATIONS THAT, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S, IT'S CHANGING AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO REDESIGN THE PLAN AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COULD HAPPEN, BECAUSE UNLESS THERE'S MORE FUNDING, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A CHANGE IN THE PLAN.
YOU READILY RECOGNIZE THAT FIVE FEET VERSUS 15.
IT'S NOT EVERY, EVERY SPOT OR LONGER IT NEEDS 15.
I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO START WALKING DOWN THAT ROAD BECAUSE DID SOMEBODY SAY, YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOU GUYS ARE STOPPING THAT, OR HERBERT REDESIGNING THE HITTER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IT'S IN THE PLAYOFFS, MOVING ON MR.
UM, I HAVE MR. HUFFMAN FROM CHA ON THE LINE, HE'S ON THE, WHETHER IT'S AROUND THE TEEN COMMUNITY.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR HIM, RAISE YOUR HAND A COUPLE OF TIMES YOU WERE GOING TO RESPOND TO WHAT JAKE.
OH, WELL, I MUST AGREE WITH MR. GILLESPIE AND SAY YES, CERTAIN ON THAT, UH, EAST SIDE, UH, THAT'S GOTTA BE PRETTY QUICK.
THAT'S ALL FILLED IN FOR THE, UH, THE ROAD THAT WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, BACK 20 YEARS AGO, BUT DEFINITELY IT'S, IT'S GOING TO GO AND IT'S GOING TO GO WITH THAT PATH.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN'T DO IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE FULL RUN.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO 150 FEET.
YOU CAN DO THE AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE BANK AND TO THE PATH THAT I THINK, I THINK DAVID HAS A FEW GOOD IDEAS, UM, ON HOW TO CONTROL THAT FLOW.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE SHOULD LISTEN, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, IF YOU LIVED UP TO THE BALLPARK OR ON EIGHTH STREET AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES DID AS FAR AS THE, THE THREE FLOORS FOR HIM, UH, TO HELP PATROL WITH SOME OF THAT EROSION AND SLEW THAT WATER, UH, BY MAKE IT KNOW THAT'S ALL THAT THAT'S ALL ME PERSONALLY, THAT I'M ASKING IS, IS TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE IDEAS.
UM, UM, MR. MEANS, AND AS THE CERTAIN OTHER PROFESSIONALS WHO CAME IN A TUB, I'M GLAD YOU'RE SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART I'M GETTING CONFUSED ON.
ARE WE LOOKING AT REDESIGNING SOMETHING THAN WHAT OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FLOW, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THERE, THE VEGETATION, NATURAL
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HABITAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE ENHANCED ALONG ALONG THE SCIENCES? CAUSE WE, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, I THINK HAS NEVER REQUIRED A REENGINEERING, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN JUST CHANGE OVER.THAT'S A BIG QUESTION FOR MR. HOFFMAN.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A VEIN OR, OR SOME KIND OF, UH, A ROCK IN THE, UH, IN THE CREEK ITSELF IN ORDER TO SLOW DOWN THE FLOW IN DIFFERENT BANK SIGNS.
I REQUIRE, WELL, WE'LL BE MRC AND DEQ AND US COURT.
DOES THAT REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT OR CAN WE JUST DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY?
IF I COULD SUGGEST MR. C LOCK WITH YOUR PERMISSION AND COUNSEL'S PERMISSION SUGGESTING, UM, COUNT MANAGER, MR. HICKS.
UM, IF THE COMMITTEE DOES GET ESTABLISHED, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VITAL TO HAVE MR. HOFFMAN WHO DESIGNED, WHO DESIGNED THE, UH, THE PR SUBMITTED THE PERMITS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AS WELL.
HE ALSO HAS ACCESS TO THE ENGINEERS THAT SUBMITTED THE ENS PLAN, UM, AS PART OF THE CHA.
SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR COUNCIL AND I'VE SAID THIS, THE LAST TWO MEETINGS WHERE THIS WAS DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL NEVER HAD THE INTENTION OF NOT BEING A COMMUNITY PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT.
AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD EVERY DESIRE TO MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL GATEWAY.
UM, TO MY RECOLLECTION, I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND MANY CREEKS IN THE SHADOW VALLEY, AT LEAST WHERE I'VE WALKED IN HYPE, THAT YOU HAVE TWO WALKWAYS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CREEK.
USUALLY THERE'S A WALKWAY ON ONE SIDE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREENWAY AND THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL AND THE INTENTION.
I KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT DURING OUR GOAL SETTING IS TO MAKE IT, UH, UP, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE THE FLOODING, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THE EROSION AND THE SEDIMENT OF DISBURSEMENTS, ET CETERA, BUT ALSO MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL GATEWAY RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IF WE CAN GET A COUPLE OF MANAGEABLE, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN AND, UM, GET MR. HUFFMAN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT AREAS WE CAN DO, SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAT WORKS ON THE START.
UM, AND ROBBIE, DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? I, I MEAN, I SEE, YOU KNOW, MR. HICKS, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO MOVE WITH YOUR CALL? YEAH.
I MEAN, I AGREE WITH IT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE ALL NEED TO LOOK AT IS IT HAS A PRE PERMIT, RIGHT.
AND GOING BACK AND WHAT THAT APPROVED PERMIT, WHAT, WHAT DOES ALLOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED BASED ON THAT ALONE, BECAUSE I'M HEARING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.
ONE, UH, THE RIP RAP AND THE SIZE OF THE RA FOR ANOTHER MEAN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SIZE OF ROCK TO KIND OF MINIMIZE SOME OF THE EROSION, BUT THEN WE NEED A, A, ANY PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, THE TYPE OF TREES AND THE EASY ENOUGH, RIGHT.
IT IS, BUT THE POINTS OF, OF HOW YOU GO ABOUT DOING IT AND THE CONSTRUCTION PIECES IS VERY CRITICAL AND THE TIMING THAT'S THE KEY THING TO, SO I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD DO IT.
I I'M JUST, I GOTTA GET A LITTLE BIT BROUGHT UP TO SPEED BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING ALL THE AGENCIES APPROVED THE PLAN THAT WE HAD.
I'M NOT EXPECTING TO CHANGE THAT PLAN.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN MIND BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THREE MILES MORE.
SOME OF IT'S COUNTY PROPERTY, BUT BLAKE, YEAH, JUST BY DOING THIS ONE LITTLE SECTION IS LIKE, IT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE JUST ABOVE DOWNTOWN, THERE'S, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE CONTROL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, ALTHOUGH I HEARD, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD AMEND THE EXISTING PERMIT AND STUFF.
I MEAN, WE JUST STILL GOTTA BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK ABOUT THAT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GET THE TOWN IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE MAKING THESE CHANGES
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AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE APPROVAL FROM THE APPROPRIATE AGENCIES TO MAKE THE CHANGES UNTIL WE RUN IT THROUGH.SO I WOULD THINK, UM, SOMEHOW WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE IN ANY OF THAT.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO IT, I GUESS, THE TIMEFRAME FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO, TO ME AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT, WHAT TIMEFRAME ARE WE LOOKING AT TWO DAYS, TWO DAYS? WELL, MAYBE IT'LL BE A CHRISTMAS PRESENT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUST, WE DO HAVE TO CAREFULLY LOOK AT IT AND STILL DON'T GET THE SENSE.
AND I GUESS AFTER WE MAY, ROBIN, WE CAN IDENTIFY REALISTICALLY, WE HAD TO MAKE DAY.
SO I CAN PROBABLY ANSWER A LOT OF THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, AND REALLY TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE RASKIN STRUCTURES IN WITH THIS, YOU COULD DO IT, BUT IT TAKES A CERTAIN CALCULATIONS LIKE YOU, MR. MAYS, APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.
CAN YOU EMAIL THE PRESENTATION MAYOR? I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I TOOK THESE PICTURES AND SHARED WITH THEM AS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I HAD BEEN GETTING FROM CITIZENS WERE ABOUT, UM, JUST THE LOOK AND THE BEAUTY, AND WE ALL KNOW THE PROJECT NOT DONE.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE A CALL ON SOMETHING.
BUT ONE THING THAT I LIKED WHEN I WENT DOWN TO THAT OTHER AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF EIGHTH STREET, IS THAT THOSE ROCKS TENT, THEY, THEY SEEM TO BLEND IN WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
THEY WOULD, YOU AGREE, GARY? THEY WERE JUST LIKE, YOU DIDN'T REALLY, THEY WERE BLEND IN.
THEY WERE THE, KIND OF THE COLOR OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND I THINK THAT, THAT, I THINK THAT PART, IF PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR AN AESTHETIC PART IN BEAUTY OR, OR SOMETHING THAT JUST DOESN'T LOOK INSTITUTIONALIZED, THAT MAYBE THOSE ROCKS WE COULD ENTERTAIN THOSE.
I MEAN, AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN OUR BUDGET, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S FOR A, FOR A FIVE, SIX YEAR OLD, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THOSE ROCK RIGHT THERE COMPARED TO RIP HER OUT, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT $20.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD YOU'RE GOING TO TOUCH THOSE ROCKS, BUT THE SAME PRICE OR NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE RIP ROAD.
AND IT WOULD TAKE PROBABLY, UM, I DON'T KNOW, THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
WELL, NO, NOT THE MONEY I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TIME TO SETTLE FOR KEYS PROBABLY FOR KEYS IN HOUSE, THEN YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO.
SO IT IT'S ALMOST LIKE SETTING THE RETAINING WALL.
WELL MAYBE WHEN THE COMMITTEE MEETS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY TALKED BEFORE ABOUT HOW THIS OTHER ORGANIZATION HELPED PAY FOR THAT PORTION DOWN AT HAPPY CREEK.
AND I'M NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS, BUT WHY WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO PAY FOR PORTIONS OF IT DOWN THERE, BUT NOT UP THERE, DOWN THERE.
WELL, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL THE WAY UP.
WE CAN TRAVEL ON THE OTHER END.
WE HAVE TO, IF THAT GIVES US THE MONEY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY SO HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTACT YOU OR CONTACT? THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN C LOC FOR HIS OUTLINE OF EVENTS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY CLEAR AND CONCISE ON, UM, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AND HOW WE RESPONDED TO IT IN PUBLIC.
YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO STAFF AND YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS.
SO GET THE REAL STORY FOR NEXT TIME TONIGHT.
IS ANY ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING I WANTED TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, WELCOME TO MR. STEVEN HICKS.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T A, UH, IN A WAY, ONE OF OUR PUBLIC MEANS IT'S MORE OF OUR WORK SESSION, BUT SINCE IT WAS KIND OF A HYBRID, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS A, IS A, A LONG PROCESS AND WORKING THROUGH AND TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT INDIVIDUAL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THE WAY WE WENT ABOUT IT.
UM, IT WAS TOP, WE ALL HAD SOME DEFINITE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT, WE WANTED TO SEE, UH, TAKE THAT SEAT.
AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE BY NOW THAT WE WENT THROUGH, UM, THE FIRST ROUND, UM, NARROWED IT DOWN.
AND, UM, I THINK OUR GUTS TOLD US IT WASN'T THE RIGHT PERSON, UH, COLLABORATIVELY.
UM, AND WHEN WE FIRST DID OUR ZOOM CALL, UH, WITH MR. HICKS, UM, AND GOT OFF THE LINE WITH HIM, UM, THIS ENTIRE GROUP WAS LIKE, MAN, THAT'S A SOLID CANDIDATE AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO MEET HIM IN PERSON.
SO WE KNEW WHEN WE DID OUR FIRST ZOOM CALL THAT YOU WERE GOING TO COME TO OUR TOWN AND WE'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW YOU.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU HAD OTHER
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OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT, UM, YOU PUT THEM ON HOLD TO FIND OUT, UH, IF IT WAS A GOOD PICTURE OF HERSELF TO WORK FOR THIS TOWN AND WITH THIS TOWN.UM, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THOSE ON HOLD AND, AND GIVING US A SHOT.
UM, WHEN MR. HICKS CAME TO INTERVIEW AND IT WAS A REALLY INTERVIEW PROCESS, WE ENJOYED HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MEAL WITH HIM, SIT DOWN AND ASK MORE IN-DEPTH QUESTIONS IN PERSON.
UM, AND, UH, MR. HICKS WAS A CLEAR FRONT RUNNER FOR, FOR THE, I THINK I CAN SPEAK ON IT FOR THIS GROUP, BUT CLEAR FRONT RUNNER FOR THE ENTIRE GROUP, UM, HIS EXPERIENCE, HIS EDUCATION, UM, WHAT, HE'S, WHAT HE'S ABLE TO BRING TO THE TABLE, HIS DEMEANOR PROFESSIONALISM, UH, HOW HE INTERVIEWED, UM, AND HE ASKED THE TOUGH QUESTIONS.
HE'S NOT NAIVE TO THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A BUMPY FEW YEARS, UM, BUT WAS, WAS UP TO THE CHALLENGE.
AND SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEF BRAC BACKGROUND ON THAT.
NOW, SINCE, SINCE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND WE CAN MAKE PUBLIC THAT, UH, STEVEN HICKS IS OUR NEW TOWN MANAGER.
UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, REALLY PROUD OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT IN, UH, TO FINDING THE RIGHT FIT AND THE PATIENTS, UM, AND PRUDENCE THAT THEY EXHIBITED IN NOT JUMPING FOR THE FIRST PERSON JUST TO FILL A SEAT, BUT FIND THE RIGHT PERSON, WHICH I THINK WE DID WITH YOU.
AND SO I HOPE THAT YOUR ONBOARDING, UH, GOES SMOOTH.
AND WITH THAT, I WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU TO OUR INTERIM TOWN MANAGER.
UM, UM, MR.
UM, IT'S THEN IT'S BEEN A TOUGH ROAD.
AND I THINK THAT MATT HAS DONE AN ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS JOB, UM, WEATHERING THE STORM AND HELPING US KEEP ON THE PATH THAT THIS COUNCIL WANTED TO, TO STAY ON.
UM, AND HONESTLY, AND THIS IS THE PART THAT I REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO BE PATIENT AND WORK THROUGH OUR TOWN MANAGER, UH, INTERVIEWING PROCESS TO FIND THE RIGHT INDIVIDUAL.
UM, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS HOLDING IT, KEEPING THE SEAT WARM FOR THE NEXT, UH, FOR THE NEXT PERSON.
AND, UM, AND, AND MATCHES DID A TREMENDOUS JOB DOING THAT, WHICH ALLOWED US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW AND BRING YOU ON, UM, MR. HICKS.
AND SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. TODRICK FOR PERSEVERING AND WORKING WITH US, UH, AS WE STARTED TO WORK THROUGH OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, UM, EVEN AFTER OUR FIRST TIME THROUGH OUR FIRST ROUND, UM, WE WERE KIND OF FRUSTRATED AS A GROUP AND I'M WONDERING HOW THAT WAS GOING TO WORK AND HOW MATT WAS GOING TO RESPOND, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HIRE A NEW TOWN MANAGER AND, AND MATT WAS GREAT.
HE SAID HE WAS READY TO STEP ASIDE WHEN WE FIND THE RIGHT PERSON, BUT FIND THE RIGHT PERSON.
DON'T JUST HIRE SOMEBODY JUST BECAUSE, UM, AND SO MATT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR AFFORDING COUNSEL THE TIME FOR, FOR CARING SO MUCH ABOUT YOUR, YOUR COUNTY, YOUR COMMUNITY, THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND THEN FOR MAKING YOURSELF AVAILABLE TO MR. HICKS FOR THE TRANSITION, HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
I'M SURE HE'S GOING TO PICK UP, UH, YOU KNOW, PICK UP REALLY QUICK, UH, TO GET, TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY BE ABLE TO PASS ON THAT BATON AND BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONTINUE TO STAY WITH US AND HELP MAKE THAT A SMOOTH TRANSITION FROM MR. HICKS.
AND WHAT ELSE? WELL, STEVE, AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING, HE GOT A PHONE CALL A DAY AND I SAID, IS HE THERE? YOU'RE NOT, I WAS LEAVING THE GOLF COURSE AND I WAS HEADED TO THE DOOR.
I'M HERE, I'M HERE TO HAVE YOU, UH, IT DID TAKE US QUITE A FEW ROUNDS.
I ECHO WHAT, UH, JAKE HAS SAID, WE KNEW YOU WERE THE ONE, BUT WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND EXTENDED CONTRACTS, TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING READING LINE BY LINE, MR. NAPIER, EVERY LINE OF THE CONTRACT.
UM, WHEN MATT CAME TO US, WE WERE LACKING GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, GOALS, AND OBJECTIVES ARE IMPORTANT THAT ANY ORGANIZATION THAT I'VE EVER BEEN IN AND I PREACHED THAT FOR TWO YEARS, ALMOST TWO YEARS, NEVER GOT ANYWHERE.
SO MATT IMMEDIATELY ESTABLISHED WITH US WHAT WE NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH, WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY WHAT 99% OF THE GOAL.
AND WE FINISHED THE LIST, EVERYTHING, EXCEPT THE AFTERNOON, YOU GOT A COUPLE MORE WEEKS GUYS CLOSE OUT THE YEAR.
WE ACCOMPLISHED THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT THIS COUNCIL SET OUT AND HOPEFULLY THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL DO THE SAME.
YOU'LL SET YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
SO YOU THEY'RE CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDABLE, AND THAT CAN BE CARRIED ON TO THE PUBLIC WHEN MATT WAS THE INSTRUMENT THAT HELPED US CARRY THROUGH.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAY KUDOS TO YOU, MY FRIEND,
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YOU, UH, YOU CAME IN WITH YOUR MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND AND MANAGED, UH, NOT A HOSTILE COUNCIL, BUT A COUNCIL.I WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS AND WE DID IT.
SO THAT GOT COUNCIL WANT TO SAY, THANK EACH OF YOU.
AND THOSE, UH, WE WERE CHRIS' CRITICIZED WHEN WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING OR CRITICIZED WHEN WE DID SOMETHING, BUT WE GOT IT DONE.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, UH, FRONT ROYAL, EVEN WHEN, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE BEEN IN VIRGINIA SINCE I WAS 10 YEARS OLD.
AND EVEN WHEN WE WOULD TRAVEL, WE'D GO TO THE SKYLINE.
UH, AND WE WOULD, UH, TRAVEL AREA AND WE'D COME THROUGH FRONT ROYAL IN FRONT.
AND I SHARE WITH FOLKS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY WATERFRONT PROP, UH, AND THEY'RE NOT MAKING SMALL TOWNS.
AND THERE IS A CHARM TO THIS TOWN THAT HAS SUCH POTENTIAL.
AND I'M JUST EXCITED TO BE PART OF THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW I CAN GROW, BUT, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I PERSONALLY WANT IT TO BE PART OF.
AND AGAIN, UH, MATT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
UH, STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT WITH THE, WITH THE INTERACTIONS I'VE HAD AND I'VE JUST LOOKED FORWARD TO WORKING WITH COUNCIL AND MAKING THINGS HAPPEN AND GETTING RESULTS.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR ANYONE ELSE.
MISS MARY, WE HAVE TWO OTHER ITEMS FOR GENERAL DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
MR. GLASSMAN, DID YOU WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT, UH, AT THE UP FRONT ROYAL POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW? YES, YOU'VE BEEN PRESSED ME WAS, WAS HAVING A GRANT FOR A DRUG, UH, DEPOSIT BOX FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BRING IN, UH, MEDICATION AND, UH, HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO DROP IT.
AND IN THE STORY, UH, WE HAD WROTE A LETTER, UM, TO, UH, CVS CORPORATE AND WE GOT APPROVED FOR THAT DROPBOX BOX SENT ME A NICE PICTURE OF IT.
IT'S IN PLACE AND READY TO BE USED RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS OLD PRESCRIPTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO, UM, TO GET RID OF FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SCREEN RIGHT DOWN THE FRONT LOBBY IN THE FRONT LOBBY LOBBY, UM, MR. MAYOR, I WANTED TO GET SOME, UH, CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCIL REGARDING, UH, MEETINGS OR WORK SESSIONS MEMBERS CONTACT ME ABOUT THAT, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO TO, UH, HOWEVER WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD IN THE COMING YEAR WITH MEETINGS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK COUNSEL MAY WANT TO DISCUSS ON THAT WITH JAKE.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HIM, UM, JUST BECAUSE PAULING, THE COVID CASES IS A DAILY THING FOR ME.
UM, YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THE CASES ARE INCREASING RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND OUR LORD FAIRFAX, FAIRFAX DISTRICT, UM, HOSPITAL SENSES ARE UP.
UH, AND SO UNFORTUNATELY IT'S HAPPENING DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, MORE AND MORE PLACES ARE GOING BACK.
I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT GOING BACK TO, UM, STRONGER DILIGENCE AND, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN A ROOM, HOW YOU'RE FEELING BEFORE YOU COME TO THE ROOM.
I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL FEELS COMPELLED TO BE HERE IN PERSON, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T REALIZE IF YOU'RE SICK, ARE YOU SYMPTOMATIC AND SYMPTOMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
AND SO I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH DISCUSSING WHAT THESE, THESE FUTURE MEETINGS LOOK LIKE VIRTUALLY, OR SOME SORT OF MIXED FORMAT.
I HATE TO GO VIRTUALLY, CAUSE I'D RATHER BE HERE WITH OUR NEW TOWN MANAGER AND EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT EVEN TONIGHT WHEN I WAS HAVING TO HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE HALL AND THE KEEPING SIX FEET SOCIAL DISTANCE, AND IT'S, IT'S TOUGH IN THIS ROOM.
SO, UM, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT WE NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT SOME SORT OF CREATIVE HYBRID ON THIS, UH, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, UM, UNTIL WE SEE SOME OF THE SURGE COME DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S SEARCHING, IT'S, IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE, AND WE'VE SURPASSED MARCH'S NUMBERS THAT WAY.
AND SO I JUST THINK THAT IF ANYBODY, ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHO KNOWS ME, KNOWS THAT I'M NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, HYPER CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT, UM, NOW'S THE TIME TO EVEN BE MORE CAUTIOUS THAN WE WERE IN MARCH.
SO WITH THAT SAID, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE ON THE, UM, THE 14TH, WE HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, TINA, TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT'S ALREADY ADVERTISED AND I BELIEVE I'M CORRECT.
IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE LOCATIONS, WE WOULD HAVE TO CANCEL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE ADVERTISED.
IF WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT, WHO'S GOING TO SIGN ON THE DOOR,
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IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.IF HOW FAR WOULD YOU MOVE IT HERE FROM GOVERNMENT CENTER THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IT.
I COULD LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT THAT.
I GUESS THE POINT OF IT IS WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE MORE MEETING THIS YEAR, MONDAY.
SO YOU GOT THE, COUNCIL'S GOT THE REST OF THAT TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN JANUARY.
JUST NEED DIRECTIONS AND YOU ALL NEXT MONDAY NIGHT HAS THIS.
AND THEN LIKE THE NEW CAPSULE MAY DECIDE ON WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING, OKAY.
IT WITH STEVE'S HELP AND OTHERS.
AND WE DID IT IN THE LAST REGULAR MEETING.
UM, I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING, THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE TIME TO HAVE THAT.
UM, SO I DON'T MIND HAVING PUBLIC INPUT.
AND THEN AM I DOING IT VIRTUALLY OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT? I DON'T MIND WITH SIX COUNCIL, SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, GOING INTO A GIANT ROOM WHERE WE CAN SPREAD OUT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW IF EVERYWHERE IS TRYING TO DISCOURAGE COMMUNITY GATHERINGS, UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A PARTICULAR ROOM WHILE WE WANT TO TRY TO MONITOR OR MODIFY THAT IN SOME WAY.
SO WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IF LIKE IN A PUBLIC MEETING, IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAME IN ONE AT A TIME, LIKE IF I WAS SELLING IT AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER, WE'D HAVE TO MARK OUT THE HALLWAY.
UM, AND IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, SO PEOPLE, WELL, WE DID LAST BABY.
WE ONLY ALLOW A FEW PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, BUT IT WASN'T A GUEST BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE.
YOU WERE ALLOWED SO MANY IN THE ROOM OR IT WAS THE 25.
I THINK WE HAD A LITTLE OVER TWENTY-FIVE FIVE.
CAUSE I WENT OUT AND TALKED TO
I MEAN, WE, WE HELD PUBLIC HEARINGS THEN.
UM, I MEAN, I HATE, I HATE DOING IT THAT WAY.
I MEAN, Y'ALL ALL KNOW MY FEELINGS ABOUT IT TODAY, BUT WE HAVE A VIRTUAL PLAN.
THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE INCREASING.
IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A SMART IDEA THAT THEY TO GO VIRTUAL FOR NOW.
SO AM I HEARING THEM, WOULD HE LEAVE, WOULD KEEP THE NEXT WEEK AS WE DID IT LAST REGULAR MEETING.
AND THEN FOR JANUARY WE START A VIRTUAL TREND REVIEW.
THEN WHAT WE'RE HEARING, IF WE CAN GET BY WITH, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK, BUT I WOULD SAY LET'S GO VIRTUAL NEXT WEEK.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK JAKE, IF WE WERE ALL IN THAT LARGE ROOM, I'M JUST TALKING THE PUBLIC OUT THERE.
WE HAVE TO TELECARE ONCE THE BRAIN AVENUE
BY THE TIME YOU HAD COUNCIL AND STAFF IN THERE, UH, THAT LEFT ROOM FOR PROBABLY ABOUT 15 BETWEEN TOWN STAFF, THE COUNCIL AND PRESSED ABOUT 15 PEOPLE COULD COME IN 12 TO 15 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH PERSONNEL FOR THAT.
HE WAS GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT DESPITE OF HIS SPIRITUAL, OUT OF MY UNDERSTANDING, THE WAY IT READS IS IF ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS OR PUBLIC AREAS HAS BEEN ADVERTISED, THE LOCATION CAN BE JUST MODIFIED IN ITSELF.
AS LONG AS THEY HAVE PROPER NOTIFICATION OF HOW YOU DO IT.
THE KEY THING IS ADVERTISING IN ADVANCE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, THAT'S THE FLEXIBILITY.
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I THINK NOW IT'S JUST THE COUNCIL MAKING THE DECISION.I THINK IT'S THE REASON I'M SAYING I ONLY GOT ONE GO MANIA.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING.
AND THEN 1ST OF JANUARY, BY THAT TIME, MAYBE WE'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE COVID.
AND THAT WAY THE NEW CAPSULE CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO VIRTUAL OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO A REGULAR MADE ME LIKE WE'VE BEEN HAPPENING, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT JUMPED THE GUN.
AT THIS POINT, WE ONLY GOT SEVEN MORE DAYS AND SEVEN MORE DAYS I CAN MAKE THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
LET'S HAVE A RECORD MEETING BECAUSE I'M NOT WILLING TO CANCEL THAT MEETING.
AS FAR AS THE SURVEYOR IS CONCERNED, I'D RATHER HAVE IT JUST LIKE MY BED KNOWING IT BECAUSE EVERYTHING WORKED OUT GREAT.
LAST TIME WE HAD THE MEETING IN THERE AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE IT THIS TIME.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THE CASE COUNTS ARE HIGHER.
IT'S MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN WHAT IT WAS IN MARCH WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS.
AND I THINK THAT GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNSELING NEEDS TO TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO MAKE SURE, WELL, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU SAFE A WAY FOR US TO SPREAD OUT EVEN MORE NEXT MONDAY NIGHT AND JUST ALLOW ONE PERSON AT A TIME COMING INTO PUBLIC, OR IS THAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC AREAS IN JANUARY AT THIS POINT FOR NEXT WEEK, FOR NEXT WEEK.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE IT NEXT MONDAY NIGHT.
LIKE WE WOULD HAVE HAD LAST MONDAY NIGHT AND GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THAT, BUT THAT LOCATION AND MAKE SURE WE MONITOR THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN ACCORDING TO STATE LAW.
WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THAT IF WE JUST, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LIKE JUST STAFF AND COUNCIL IN THE CHAMBER AND THE PUBLIC OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY CAN COME IN ONE AT A TIME.
UH, MR. BRANCHINI SHARED WITH ME THAT, THAT THAT'S HOW THE COUNTY IS.
ARE YOU SAYING THE COUNTY KEEPS THE STAFF IN A SEPARATE ROOM? YOU WERE JUST THEIR NUMBER IN THE BIG ROOM.
THEY KEEP ADDITIONAL STAFF OVER IN THE CAUCUS ROOM AND THEY COME IN AS THEY'RE NEEDED AND GO OUT AS THEY'RE NEEDED.
WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT WE WERE ONLY ONE PUBLIC PERSON AT A TIME.
I'M JUST TRYING TO RESPECT WITH WHAT JAKE IS SAYING.
THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP AND THERE'S MORE PRECAUTIONS BEING TAKEN.
WHO STEVE, COULD YOU, YOU HAD MATT WORKED THAT OUT, WHICHEVER THE BEST WAY AND THAT WAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CANCEL THOSE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
I WAS NOT SAYING THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO CANCEL IT.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO DO WELL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I NEED LET'S GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THIS YEAR.
AND THEN YOU ALL DECIDED WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
DID HE WANT TO GO VIRTUAL OR WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? WE GOT TO GO TO THE CLOSE MEETING AT THIS TIME.
SOMEBODY READ THIS, THAT MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF APPOINTMENT, CONVERSION PERFORMANCE, GOOD MEDICINE, SALARY DISCIPLINING OR RESIGNATION OFFICERS.
THESE ARE EMPLOYEES OF A PUBLIC BODY PERSUADED THE SECTION 2.2 37, 11.8 0.1 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN AND YOU CAN STAY JOE.
YOU CAN STAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL SPECIFICALLY REGARDING A POTENTIAL AWARD TO AN APPROPRIATE ENTITY UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF VIRGINIA 10 SECTION 15.2 DASH NINE FIVE THREE PERSUADED TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 37, 11.8 0.8 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.