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          [Special Town Council Work Session on November 16, 2020.]
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          CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCILORS SPECIAL REGULAR MEETING TONIGHT, BUDDY. 
          NOW WE HAVE THE 16TH, 2020. 
          UH, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL HERE. 
          COUNCILMAN GILLESPIE HERE, YOU'RE PREGNANT. 
          I HADN'T BEEN EITHER CLOSED MEETING TO HEAR A MOTION. 
          MR. MAYOR, I MOVED TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL GO INTO CLOSED MEETING FOR ONE. 
          THE DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ARE INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES SPECIFIC TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S POSITION FOR EMPLOYMENT APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, SALARY, AND RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER'S APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC BODY PERSUADED TO SECTION TWO OH TWO DASH 37 11 POINT A 0.1 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AND TWO REGARDING A POTENTIAL LOAN FROM A BANK REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS ALL THE FIRST WAY AND TO THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA RESPECTIVELY IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF THE CODE SECTIONS TWO 22 DASH 37 OR 11.8 29 AND 2.2 DASH 37 OH 11 POINT A 0.6 AND SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 AND 11.8 0.8. 
          THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS WHERE COMPETITION OR BARGAINING IS INVOLVED, WHERE IF MADE PUBLIC INITIALLY THE FINANCIAL INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENTAL UNIT WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED TO THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT, WHERE DISCUSSION AND AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY AND THREE CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING TO PROVISION A LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA. 
          SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          I CAN GUARANTEE THIS TIME. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE MEETING THAT'S PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED PROMOTION MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AS WERE IDENTIFIED. 
          AND THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSE MEETING BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THAT THE VOTE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL AND RECORDED AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL. 
          PERFECT. 
          SECOND ROLL CALL. 
          YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. 
          CARRIE, UH, Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK OR WE START TO WORK SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          JAKE SAID, LET'S GO. 
          I TOLD HER I PAROLED HOW CAPITAL WORKS AS YOUR NEED FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE 16TH, 2020. 
          AT THIS TIME WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS, UH, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE DRAG THEM THREE TO ITEM ONE IS THE HUMANE SOCIETY REQUESTS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          WE HAVE MEGAN, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          OURS IS THAT NAMED BAUER TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY HERE. 
          AND SHE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE REST OF THE BOARD REGARDING A PROGRAM THAT THE COMMUNITY SOCIETY IS INITIATING AND IS REQUESTING OUR CONSIDERATION FOR OXIDATION REGARDING THE SPADE NEUTER PROJECT. 
          I TURN OVER TO YOU. 
          HELLO, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR INVITING ME TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. 
          I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING A NEW PATH, A NEW PROJECT THAT I FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. 
          AND I'M EXCITED TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE THE VALUE OF IT. 
          AS MUCH AS I DO, UH, IN 2021, THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF WARREN COUNTY IS PLANNING TO OPEN AND OPERATE A LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER CLINIC IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL. 
          AND I HAVE TIMELY REQUESTED THAT YOU 
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CONSIDER A SPONSORSHIP TOWARDS OUR PROJECT, WHICH I FEEL WILL HAVE A DRAMATIC IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          SINCE OUR BEGINNING IN 1947, WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO IMPROVE OUR PRACTICES AND ELEVATE OUR ABILITY TO HELP THE ANIMALS AND THE ANIMAL OWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, ESPECIALLY WE'VE HAD WONDERFUL ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          WE'VE ACHIEVED, NO KILL STATUS, STEPPED UP OUR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS LIKE OUR FREE PACK FOOD BANK SOUGHT AND EARN GRANTS FOR PET OWNER ASSISTANCE. 
          AND AT THE BEGINNING OF 2020, UH, WE CHANGED OUR POLICY TO ENSURE THAT EVERY ANIMAL THAT IS ADOPTED FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS SPAYED AND NEUTERED. 
          BEFORE THE TIME OF ADOPTION, WE'VE MADE SOME GREAT STEPS, BUT WE ARE NOW READY FOR OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT STEP. 
          UH, WITH THE SUPPORT OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE BEGIN, UH, THIS ENORMOUS UNDERTAKING. 
          THERE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF GROUPS WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS CLINIC CLINIC, INCLUDING OUR LOCAL PET OWNERS, OUR OWN SHELTER, OUR LOCAL RESCUE AND T AND R GROUPS AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO CARE FOR OR LIVE NEAR OR MANY COMMUNITY CAT COLONIES IN FRONT ROYAL. 
          FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I SEE THE EFFECTS OF UNPAID AND UNNEUTERED ANIMALS. 
          MORE THAN MOST. 
          IT CAN BE VERY HEARTBREAKING SOMETIMES TO DO THE JOB THAT I DO TO SEE CARDBOARD BOXES OF DYING KITTENS, COME INTO OUR SHELTER EVERY DAY IN THE SPRING, TO SEE OUR STAFF CRYING OVER TINY LIVES THAT NEVER STOOD A CHANCE TO SEE ANY OF HER DOGS BROUGHT IN FOR FIGHTING OVER WHAT BOILS DOWN TO MEETING AND THINGS AND TO SEE OLDER MOTHER DOGS WHOSE BODIES HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH NOW BATTLING MAMMARY TUMORS, SURRENDER TO THE SHELTER BECAUSE THEIR OWNERS CAN NOT AFFORD TO HAVE THEIR CARE DONE. 
          WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY FULL OF PET LOVERS. 
          HOWEVER, WE ALSO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE STRUGGLED TO FEED THEM, STRUGGLED TO STAY THEM AND STRUGGLED TO GET THEM TO THE VET. 
          I HAVE A BINDER FULL OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COME TO THE SHELTER EVERY MONTH FOR FREE PET FOOD. 
          WE KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED AND WE ARE WILLING TO DO THE WORK, BUT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF STARTUP FUNDING. 
          SO WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 
          I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          AND AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO REALLY GREAT THINGS IN 2021. 
          YES. 
          QUESTION, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          ANYBODY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? WARREN COUNTY HAS WARREN COUNTY PLANNING TOO. 
          UH, WE, I HAVE SENT THEM THE PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED FROM US AND I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE DISCUSSING IT IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE YOU ASKING FOR SPECIFIC AMOUNTS OR ANY AMOUNT I'M TRYING TO READ? THE $125,000. 
          THE FIRST YEAR BUDGET FOR THE CLINIC IS OVER $430,000. 
          AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT ITSELF COMPLETELY. 
          UM, THE $125,000 THAT I'M TRYING TO RAISE AND THE SHELTER IS CONTRIBUTING $50,000 TOWARDS THAT AMOUNT IS FOR THE INITIAL STARTUP COSTS. 
          PLUS TWO MONTHS OF LIKE NORMAL EXPENSES, RENT, VETERAN, VETERINARIAN, SALARY, STUFF LIKE THAT, SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS, UH, ALL STARTED AND READY TO BEGIN. 
          SO JUST THE INITIAL COST IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, WHO WILL PAY FOR THE 400, SOME THOUSAND AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, IT'S A LOW COST CLINIC. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FREE CLINIC. 
          SO WHERE THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE PEOPLE VOUCHERS FOR FREE SPAY OR NEUTER. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE LOW COST. 
          IT'S TYPICALLY GOING TO BE ABOUT HALF TO ONE THIRD OF A LOCAL REGULAR VETERINARY'S OFFICE. 
          UM, WE ARE THE WESTERN MOST, WE WILL BE THE WESTERN MOST LOW COST SPAY NEUTER CLINIC ASIDE FROM STEPHEN CITY, WHICH DOESN'T DO FEMALE DOGS OR DOGS OVER 20 POUNDS. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF COUNTIES, INCLUDING MORIN AND WEST VIRGINIA, WHERE THEY WILL BE COMING OUR AIR TO OUR AREA TO BE USING THE CLINIC. 
          SO OUR CURRENT PROGRAM GETS SOLD OUT EVERY TIME WE IT NOW Y'ALL SEND THEM TO HARRISONBURG. 
          WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HANASARAH IN HARRISONBURG, WHICH GOES EVERY TWO WEEKS. 
          UM, THEY CLOSED DOWN FOR TWO MONTHS IN THE WINTER TIME BECAUSE IT'S A LONG TRANSPORT, SO THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THE VEHICLES ON THAT ACHY ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THAT SELLS OUT, UH, EVERY TIME THAT WE DO IT, THERE'S A WAITING LIST. 
          WE'VE THE DECEMBER 9TH TRIP IS BOOKED AND WE'RE DONE FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO MY QUESTION, WHAT IS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE CLOSER FOR AREAS LIKE MAYBE MARTINSBURG AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO ASK, UM, FOR ANY DONATIONS FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL? I DO. 
          I, UH, I WOULDN'T BE A GOOD EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IF I WASN'T ASKING EVERYBODY FOR MONEY. 
          I'LL BE, I'VE, I'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR GRANTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SOME SPONSOR. 
          WE HAVE GOTTEN A ONE $10,000 SPONSOR TOWARDS THE CLINIC WHO, UH, IS A LOCAL RESIDENT. 
          SO YES, WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THE MONEY TOGETHER. 
          AND I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN OUR, BUDGET'S BEEN EXCELLENT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          WE'RE STILL, 
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YOU KNOW, SLOWLY SAVING MINE AND READY TO TAKE ON ANOTHER BIG PROJECT WITH, OR WITHOUT YOUR HELP, BUT HOPEFULLY WITH IT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THIS IS A BUDGET REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND JULY FORWARD, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ALLOCATED FOR ANYTHING OF THIS NATURE AT THIS POINT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? OKAY. 
          WHEN DO YOU HOPE TO HAVE THE 125,000 RATES? UM, MY GOAL IS TO HAVE IT IN THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF 2021. 
          UM, MY ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE CLINIC IS GOING TO BE ON JANUARY 1ST. 
          WE'RE WAITING TWO MONTHS TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'LL PRECEDE THAT, AND I DON'T WANT TO CONFLICT WITH THOSE TWO ITEMS, BUT I WILL BE, UH, MAKING THE BIG PUSH STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2021. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. 
          I WOULD GO BACK TO THE FIRST ITEM ORDER. 
          YOU HAVE TO DO THE REVIEW OF THE  RESOURCES OR RESERVES JUST BRINGING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL HERE AS WE HAVE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE COVID STARTED THERE. 
          UH, JUST AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR REVENUES. 
          UM, JUST BRIEFLY GOING THROUGH HERE OVERALL GENERAL FUND IS OKAY. 
          WE'RE TRACKING AND UNDER, IN SOME PLACES OVER IN OTHER PLACES, UH, OVERALL, UH, BOTTOM LINE, NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND, UH, GENERAL FUNDS, UH, ELECTRIC REVENUES HAVE CAME DOWN, UH, AND IT'S NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WE'RE IN THE CURVE MONTHS. 
          UH, IT'S NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY. 
          THEY'RE GOING ON A WATER. 
          UM, IT'S ABOVE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'LL START COMING DOWN OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AS WELL AS WE GO INTO THE WINTER MONTHS. 
          UH, THAT'LL DROP OFF HERE IN NOVEMBER. 
          UM, I'VE ALREADY BEGAN TO SEE IT AND SEEING THAT SERIOUS SALES ARE OFF A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT OFF PACE. 
          UH, THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE WERE, UM, UH, BELOW BUDGET, ABOUT 56,000. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW I LOOKING AT ABOUT 103,000 IN SALES. 
          UM, NOT A LOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THERE, BUT I AM MONITORING THAT ONE FAIRLY CLOSELY. 
          UH, SARAH CONNECTIONS ARE UP A LITTLE BIT HELPING OFFSET THOSE, UH, UH, BUT WE USUALLY WE START PICKING THAT UP. 
          UM, AND THEN IN SPRING, SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR SOLID WASTE, RIGHT ON TARGET, UH, DELINQUENT UTILITY ACCOUNTS. 
          SO THERE WAS AN INCREASE, UM, UH, IN THE, IN THE DOLLAR VALUE FOR THE, UH, LIQUID UTILITY ACCOUNTS, UM, ABOUT, UH, UH, ROUGHLY $60,000 OF THAT. 
          IT EQUATES TO ONE ACCOUNT. 
          UM, IT'S NOTHING CONCERNING. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING THERE, BUT IT'S NOT, UH, NOT, NOT NOTHING TOO CONCERNING. 
          UM, IF YOU TAKE IT TO THAT ACCOUNT OUT. 
          SO WE'D BE ABOUT $445,000. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE DELINQUENT UTILITY ACCOUNTS AS YOU SEE IS DECREASED AS WELL. 
          SO OVERALL NOT DOING TOO BAD THERE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO GET COUNSEL'S INPUT AS FAR AS RELEASING THE PORTION OF CONTINGENCY FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH AMERICAN COMPENSATION STUDY TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING BY JANUARY 1ST, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE ENTIRE, UH, ENTIRE MERIT AND COMPENSATION STUDY FOR THE YEAR WAS 347,000 HOURS. 
          UM, SO WE ALREADY SAY THAT, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, WE PUT A HOLD ON IT BASED ON THE UTILITIES ON THAT CONTINGENCY, UH, THE GOVERNORS, WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS, UH, UTILITY BAND UTILITY PAYMENTS WOULD COME DOWN TO, AND IF WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER ALL THOSE COSTS AND THEN PEOPLE WOULD START DROPPING OFF AND NOT PAYING ANY UTILITY BANDITS STILL IN THE WORKS. 
          UM, I'D SAY IT'S STILL IN THE WORKS. 
          UM, IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR. 
          UH, JUST GET IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WAS BEFORE FOR THEM TO BE APPROVED. 
          UM, THE UPDATE AS OF THIS AFTERNOON IS THAT, UM, IT HASN'T GONE THROUGH AS OF YET, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, STILL INCLUDED. 
          THEY TALKING ABOUT, UH, CARES, ACT FUNDING DEDICATED TOWARDS THAT IF YOU HAVE, UH, FORFEITURES OR UTILITIES. 
          SO THE, UM, UH, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ALLOCATING $60 MILLION TOWARD, UH, TOWARDS THE UTILITY PAYMENTS. 
          UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS, IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, FACILITATING THAT. 
          AND IT SAYS THAT MORE INFORMATION WILL BE COMING AND COMING WEEKS, UH, WE'LL CARRY THAT MONEY HAS TO BE USED BY DECEMBER 31ST. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE THE FEAT FOR THEM TO PULL OFF AN ALBUM TO GO ABOUT IT. 
          UH, THERE'S NO INFORMATION OUT THERE AS OF YET IF YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW, AND THEY'VE ALREADY ANNOUNCED THAT IT WOULD ONLY, UM, ONLY COVER UTILITIES ACCRUED 
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FROM MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER. 
          UM, SO IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE THE FEAT FOR THEM TO PULL OFF, UM, WHAT'S THE RISK THAT WE'RE TAKING. 
          WHAT'S OUR EXPOSURE. 
          IF WE FULLY FUND THE MERIT INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEN $350,000. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THE EXPOSURE FOR THIS YEAR FOR THIS BUDGET HERE FOR THE, UM, FOR THE AMERICAN ACCOUNT, WE EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO EAT ON THE UTILITIES MORE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY, UH, THAT'S REALLY. 
          I MEAN, IF WE WERE TO HAVE TO STOP, UH, DISCONNECTIONS, UH, THROUGH THE WINTERTIME, UM, IT WOULD BE MASSIVE. 
          IT BE PRETTY MAD. 
          I MEAN THAT, BUT THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR ENTERPRISE FINE GENERAL FUND. 
          YOU RECEIVE TRANSFERS FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD IMPACT ALL FUNDS TO SOME DEGREE. 
          I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UM, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A SHARED BURDEN OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO TANK COURAGE ENTERPRISE FINE, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE OFFSET SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES AT SOME POINT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, WHEREAS THE MERIT INCREASES OR DIRECT REVENUES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT NOW. 
          WELL, NO, THE MERIT, THE MERIT AND COMPENSATION STUDY ARE ACROSS ALL FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT, UM, UM, THEY, I MEAN, UH, YEAH, $350,000. 
          I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT WOULDN'T BE THE THING THAT I WOULD SAY WOULD MAKE OR BREAK US, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, BUT REALLY MORE, THERE'S MORE MONEY TAKEN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE COMPENSATION AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          YES. 
          THAT IS ACCURATE. 
          WELL, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERYBODY'S INVOLVED IN THAT ONE. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT SIDE IS GROWING. 
          PLEASE SEE SALES TAX OFF. 
          YES. 
          SALES TAX IS STILL, STILL CHUGGING ALONG. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE ON THE TIPPING FEE ISSUE IS RESOLVED. 
          NO, SIR. 
          IT'S STILL IN THE  TO HAVE THE, THEIR FINANCE DIRECTOR TO GET ON BOARD REALLY WANTED THAT MUCH ONE PROCEDURE THAT'S, BUT THE FOLLOWING IS 5,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, THEIR COUNSEL. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH ME BRINGING BACK TO THE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT MARIN COMPENSATION STUDY JANUARY 1ST. 
          CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? SORRY. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS IT IS THE THIRD YEAR OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY. 
          UM, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING THING, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD THE COMPENSATION STUDY. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE CAN BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS AS FAR AS THE MAYOR COUNCIL IN DECEMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, UM, IF THERE'S A WAY I LEAVE IT UP TO MATT AND BJ, BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, I THINK I SAID THIS LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE COMMITTED TO THIS YEARS AGO AND THE S THE, THE SKEPTICS, UH, WE'RE SAYING THAT THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO COME ON, THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A STOP TO IT. 
          AND THEY WOULD NEVER FULLY FUND THE THREE YEARS. 
          AND I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS, GET OVER THE FINISH LINE AND NOT HOLD IT OVER OUR EMPLOYEES IF IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          I MEAN, I CERTAINLY WANT TO DO, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT IS YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FINANCIALLY TO OUR TOWN'S FINANCES, BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO TOLERATE A LITTLE BIT OF RISK TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES GET IT AND THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S HUNG OVER THEIR HEADS. 
          AND WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE PAY GRADES AND THE WAGES ON OUR LOWER ENDS. 
          AND IF WE CAN GET TO THAT, THAT THIRD YEAR OF FULLY FUNDING THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE ALRIGHT. 
          I IMAGINE THAT WE'LL GET A BETTER VOTE OF CONFIDENCE FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEES THAT WE FOLLOWED THROUGH ON WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE, WITHOUT US DOING SOMETHING STUPID AND ARE IRRESPONSIBLE, WELL, WE WERE ALL SET TO, WE WERE ALL SET TO GO. 
          AND WHEN THE GOVERNOR DID THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR THE, OR NOT EXECUTIVE, I GUESS IT WAS GOING TO BE A BUDGET. 
          AND THEN IT WENT THROUGH BUDGET LIMIT THE UNKNOWN WITH THAT. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE THINK WE ALSO BELIEVE THERE'S A STRONG LIKELIHOOD. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A, UH, EXEMPTION EXEMPTION FROM IT. 
          BUT LANGUAGE HASN'T BEEN FORMALIZED JUST YET EXEMPTION OR SOME SORT OF FUNDING REIMBURSEMENT. 
          I MEAN, THEY CAN'T JUST, YOU DON'T SEE THE FUNDING REIMBURSEMENT HAPPENING OUT OF CARES ACT. 
          THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT. 
          YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IN PLACE BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST. 
          I MEAN, MAYBE NO, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S A REAL PROBABILITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY YOU NEED TO EAT A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME UP WITH THAT? THAT'S THE WAY IT'S LOOKING. 
          WE'LL BE SURPRISED WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED. 
          WHERE'S YOUR FAITH IN GOVERNMENT. 
          JUST KIDDING. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO PUT US IN ANY FINANCIAL JEOPARDY, BUT THEN WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, UH, UM, UH, I REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS THING THROUGH. 
          YEP. 
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YEP. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GET BACK ON TO VOTE FOR, OR WAIT TO GO FOR IT, OR YOU JUST DO MOVE FORWARD. 
          ONE MORE MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL PUT HER ON REGULAR MEETINGS DECEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MR. MAYOR, UM, VICE MAYOR CEYLON ASKED FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE AND THE TIMING, AND I THINK IT WAS VERY GOOD. 
          ROBIN, YOU CAN COME ON OFF YOUR HAND, THOSE OUT IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          UM, CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT? I'M SORRY. 
          BEFORE I MOVE ON TO OUR, WE ALREADY BEHIND OUR WINDOW OF TIME WHEN WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT. 
          SO IF WE WAIT UNTIL DECEMBER OR WE, I THINK HR IS TALKING ABOUT BACKDATING IT THAT'S I WAS GOING TO ASK, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT A PRORATION IF WE DO GO? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D MAKE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT DELANEY AND STAFF. 
          YOU KNOW, I GOT TO TELL YOU, I MEAN, REALLY I'VE BEEN REALLY AMAZED AT STAMPS STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE. 
          I MEAN, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENTS AND SO THEY KNOW THE SITUATION THEY KNOW, AND THEY KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT MIRRORED IN. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO US. 
          I ASKED FOR THIS UPDATE SEPARATELY, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS APPROPRIATED INTO THIS. 
          AND I FELT LIKE WE HAVE NOT HAD A FULL DISCUSSION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE SEE SOME THINGS GOING ON. 
          WE SEE NEW ASPHALT GOING DOWN. 
          WE'VE SEEN THE CURB AND GUTTER. 
          WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL FULLY ON BOARD, WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED MORE THAN PASSING ON THE FLIPPERS IN YOUR MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S THE FIRST PAGE BACK. 
          CAN I GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE DISCUSSION POINTS THAT WERE AT THE TIME? UM, IT WAS THE WIRE, THE RANGE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE ARE DUNS. 
          FEW OF THESE ARE ONGOING, AND THEN SOME OF THESE ARE FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS THE RADIO READ ORDER METER CHANGE OUT PROJECT. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WORKING ON, CHANGING OUT TO AN AUTOMATIC METER READING SYSTEM, UM, THAT ALLOWS ME TO THE RABBI WITH THE HANDHELDS TO HAVE NO NEVER SINGLE METER LID. 
          WE ARE CURRENTLY 72% DONE WITH THAT. 
          UM, USUALLY THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY DAYS DYLAN, UM, AND WHAT'S LEFT. 
          WE JUST CANCELED JUST APPROVED LAST WEEK. 
          THE ORDER DID ORDER MUCH MORE METERS. 
          UM, WE'RE HOPING BY MID SPRING TO HAVE THAT COMPLETELY FINISHED. 
          UM, MAYBE AN EARLIER, DEPENDING ON HOW BAD WINTER IS, UM, ONE FEATURE TOO ABOUT THIS, UH, THESE RE READ METERS, LET YOU HOLD 96 DAYS OF DATA. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A LEAK OR DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IN YOUR HOUSE, YOU GOT A REAL HIGH BILL. 
          WE CAN ACTUALLY GO BACK OFF THE HANDHELD AND PULL 96 DAYS OF DATA, UM, AND SEE EXACTLY WHEN THE WATER WAS USED. 
          WHAT TIME, HOW MANY GALLONS, ALL THAT, UM, IT STORES IT NEXT ONE, UH, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR ONES, UH, THE AD APP PROJECTS, UM, PART OF THE CONSENT ORDER, UM, JUST KIND OF BREAKS DOWN SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WORK, UH, FROM THE BASE AND AREAS. 
          UM, THE FIRST ONE OF COURSE IS A CIP P LINE AND THAT TRI-STATE DID, UM, IN SIX AND SEVEN, UM, THE LINE 12,194 FEET OF SEWER MAINS. 
          AND DID 66 SEWER LATERALS IS YOUR COSTS ARE 745,228. 
          UM, THE SEWER REPLACEMENT THAT WAS EITHER FROM PIPE BURSTING, FROM PORTLAND OR OPEN CUT, UM, THEY DID 3,590 FEET OF, UH, MAINS AND LATERALS. 
          AND THAT WAS NINE 46, NINE 14. 
          UM, THE BASE IN FRAME HOLD MAN, HOLD FRAME AND COVERS. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY STILL GOING ON. 
          SHE'LL BE FINISHED THIS MONTH. 
          BLUE SEAN WAS WORKING ON THAT. 
          UM, AND RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO COME IN THE PROJECTED COST OF FOUR 39, SEVEN 30, UM, OH, REHABILITATION, UH, 220 MANHOLES TO BE SEALED, UH, VISIT SEWER, GOT A LATE START. 
          THEY WERE ACTUALLY THE FIRST CONTRACTOR READY TO START, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SLIP LINE AND THE MANHOLE FRAME AND COVERS, THEY HAD TO BE HELD BACK. 
          UM, THERE'LL BE FINISHED PROBABLY MID DECEMBER, UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE TWO OH SIX, SEVEN 48, UM, HYDRO STRUCTURES. 
          THEY CAMBERED 787,000 LINEAR FEET OF SEWER REMAIN, UM, 491 SEWER LATERALS. 
          AND THAT COST WAS 509,005 36. 
          UM, THERE'S A FEW PICTURES AT THE END OF SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY FOUND, UM, FOR UPCOMING WORK. 
          AND THEY CAN BE KIND OF SURPRISED, UH, HAPPY CREEK SANITARY, SEWER LINE REPLACEMENTS. 
          THIS IS FOR THE BRIDGE THERE AT, UH, 
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BY PAVEMENT. 
          UM, THIS IS WHERE WE HAD TALKED THAT TIME ABOUT WHERE IT CAUSES ISSUES ON BACK BY THE FLEA MARKET AND THE POOL HALL AND ALL THAT. 
          UM, THEY HAD FINISHED THE 59%, UH, DESIGN, UH, THERE'S A STORM DRAIN IN THE 14 INCH WATERLINE OLD CROSSES THERE. 
          SO IT HAD BEEN SOME STUFF MOVED AROUND, BUT WE'RE HOPING HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO GET ALL THAT DONE AND, UH, KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW. 
          THE PROJECTED COST OF THAT, UH, WITH THE CREEK CROSSING IS 657,650, UM, SMOKE TESTING. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE HERE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          WE DID 187 OR 180,000 LINEAR FEET OF SMOKE TESTING AT 300,000. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER TOTAL FOOTAGE GIVES YOU OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UM, SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING UNDER THE CONSENT ORDER, WORKING ON ALL THE SMOKE TESTING, UM, AS YOU ALL THAT 300,000, , HERE'S A FEW PICTURES OF SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HAD RESTRUCTURES FOUND, UH, FOR UPCOMING STUFF. 
          AND WE GOT A PACKET OF PROBABLY SIX PAGES. 
          UM, LIKE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE PIPES GONE. 
          HERE'S ALL THE WHOLE CELL REMAINS IS COMPLETELY GONE THERE, BROKE OUT AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE ROCK HE SAYS LAYING THERE. 
          UM, SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU SOME OF THE IDEALS THAT CAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF, UM, FOR THE NEXT PHASE. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE SHOULD BE, THE BYPASSES HAD BEEN MEANT TO BE SOME OF THEM WEATHER RELATED, LOWER AMOUNT OF BYPASSES THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAD ONE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WE HAD FOUR INCHES OF RAIN IN AN HOUR AND I MEAN, WE HAD ALL THE PUMPS WIDE OPEN, BUT HE WAS SO MUCH RAIN. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO CARE DOWN THERE AND THEY IDENTIFY THAT AND NEXT UP THEY HAVE TO GO FIND THAT AND FIX IT, WHEREAS JUST STAY LIKE THAT. 
          WELL, YOU'LL HAVE TO BLOW THE BAND IS THESE ARE, THESE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE DUG UP, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS JUST CRACKED UP SOME, YOU COULD LIE IT, BUT THESE ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE DUG UP AND REPAIRED. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL BE GETTING THE SOLIDS OUT, YOU KNOW, AND YEP. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY STARTING TO SHOW UP. 
          OKAY. 
          LEADING PROJECTS. 
          UM, FIRST ONE FIRST, UH, NORTH CHANDU AVENUE, UH, I MEAN, FOURTH TIME, SORRY. 
          14TH STREET FROM NORTH SHANDO AVENUE AND OVERWATCH AVENUE. 
          UM, THAT WAS A BEAT UP PRIMARY EXTENSION PROJECT. 
          THEY REIMBURSED US FOR THAT COMPLETELY, UM, TOTAL COST OF THAT WAS ONE 96, SIX, 18. 
          UM, THIS BREAKS DOWN SOME OF THE ONES HE DID. 
          UM, AND IN THAT ONE AREA, HOW DO YOU SCOTT STEEL, UM, BEL AIR WAS KIND OF OFF OF 600. 
          WE DID THAT. 
          AND THEN THE ALLEY PAVEMENT FOR THIS YEAR GIVES YOU KIND OF SOME OF THE PAVING THAT WAS DONE. 
          UM, THIS PICTURE HERE, STEEL AVENUE OR THERE'S AT 14TH AND SHANANDOAH YEAH. 
          UM, THIS TALKED SOME ABOUT THE UPCOMING PAINTING PART VIEW ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO GET DONE WITH SCOTT STEEL AND HAVE YOU, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY, TO HAVE THE CURVE PUT IN. 
          SO WE DID IT IN HOUSE, WHICH PUT US BEHIND. 
          SO WE HAD THE MONEY FOR THAT COME SPRING, UH, LEAKS AND NORTH STREET. 
          UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TO BE CURB AND GUTTER AND PAVING, UH, BRAXTON COMING DOWN THE HILL THERE TO POKE A WIDE STREET AND HAD ONE COURT OR SOME OF THE ONES IN THIS YEAR'S COMING UP, UH, PAVING PLAN, UH, GOOD MODERN STREET. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? UM, B UH, SMART SCALE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A WHILE BACK. 
          UM, THE APPLICATION'S BEEN IN, UM, FOR THE SMART SCALE. 
          UM, PROJECTED COSTS WAS 2 MILLION, 400, $6,935. 
          AND THAT IS A 100% FUNDED PROGRAM IF IT'S CHOSEN. 
          UM, MAYBE WE'LL GO TO THE COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION BOARD, UM, AND THEN WE'LL EVALUATE IT AND THEN RECOMMEND WHICH PROJECTS WILL BE, UH, APPROVED IN JANUARY. 
          IF IT'S APPROVED, IT WOULD BE AUGUST 1ST, 2025 BEFORE THE ENGINEERING FUNDING WOULD BE TURNED LOOSE AND CONSTRUCTION WOULD START IN 2028, 2029 IF APPROVED. 
          UM, THAT JUST GIVES YOU THE LITTLE MUGGY STUFF, DATA DRAWING, FINGERS, UM, REVENUE SHARING, UH, WE PUT IN FOR THREE, UH, REVENUE SHARING PROJECTS, UM, OUT OF THESE THREE, THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT FUNDED WAS THE ONE HERE FOR THE NORTH SHANDO AVENUE LIGHTS. 
          UM, WE THINK BECAUSE ALL THE FATALITIES A WHILE BACK WAS PROBABLY WHAT'S. 
          UM, WHAT MADE IT, UH, THE PROJECT CALLS FOR THE LIGHTS FOR THE FULL PROJECT IS TWO 65. 
          OF COURSE, THE RIDE NEW SHARING MEET OUT WITH PAYING FOR HALF. 
          UM, THEY HAVE BECAUSE OF THE COVID THIS YEAR, THE ONE THING THIS WAS CONSIDERED A PRIORITY, TWO PROJECT ONLY PRIORITY ONE PROJECTS WE'LL GET FUNDING THIS YEAR. 
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UM, SO ANY, IT IT'LL BE Y F Y 25 AND 26 BEFORE YOU CAN GET THE FUNDING FOR THE REVENUE SHARING. 
          AND THEN WE DID SEND THEM AN EMAIL CAUSE REVENUE SHARING IS EASILY EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          SO THERE ACTUALLY SHOULD BE AN OLDER, UH, CYCLE REVENUE SHARING IN BETWEEN, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK TO SEE WHAT, HOW DID THEY DETERMINE PRIORITY, UM, B DOT THIS DOES IT BASED OFF OF THE NEEDS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, SOMEWHAT LIKE MOST OF ALL THE PR THERE WOULDN'T BE A COUPLE OF PRIORITY ONES AND ALL OF THEM WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE BIG, BIGGER PLACES, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WITH A LOT MORE TRAFFIC VOLUME AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK OUR CHANCES ARE OF GETTING THE LIGHTING IMPROVED AT LEAST ON FILM? UM, YOU MEAN THROUGH D DOT? YEAH. 
          UM, I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS GOT APPROVED A GOOD POSSIBILITY WITH THE FATALITY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT IT IN THE NEXT REVENUE SHARING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS ONE, UM, PROSPECTS DO THAT. 
          WOULD THEY DO THAT OUTSIDE THEIR MASTER PLAN? WOULD THEY DO THAT IN PIECES LIKE THAT? WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR REVENUE SHARING. 
          THEY WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET ANY KIND OF FUNDING. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SMARTER SCALE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WITH IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT BEING THAT FAR OUT, I WOULD THINK WITH, WITH THE SAFETY BEING THE THING, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU, THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ANYWAYS, THEY'RE GOING TO REVIEW IT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO YOU COULD, THEY COULD KIND OF WORK WITH YOU TO OFFSET, SO IT WOULDN'T CREATE ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD WITH THAT. 
          WE DEFINITELY TRYING TO BE THAT, OKAY, THERE'S ENOUGH LIGHTING FROM THE SHEETS. 
          NOW I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          YOUR LIFE THAT ALL UP. 
          THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, 25, 26 CRAZY FIVE YEARS, UH, PROSPECT STREET DID NOT GET FUNDED, BUT WE DID HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE STILL WITH THAT, THAT REALLY LOOKS GOOD BY THE WAY, PAUL STONEWALL JACKSON. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, THE OTHER ONE THAT DIDN'T GET, UH, APPROVED WAS THE NORTH WALL AVENUE PAINTING BETWEEN 14TH STREET AND CONGRESS. 
          PRETTY SURE WE HAD THE MONEY STILL FOR THAT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR, UH, UH, THE STREET LIGHTING. 
          CAUSE WE HAD THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THE STREET LIGHTING AND MOVE IT OVER. 
          SO WE HAVE ENOUGH. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU ABOUT THE BEAT UP AGAIN, THE THEORY BEHIND THAT A MEMBER'S COUNSEL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IS CONSIDERING NOW THE SHEETS IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THE LIGHTING IS SO MUCH MORE IMPROVED NOW. 
          UM, KIND OF MEETING, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE BETTER TO SHIFT THAT MONEY TOWARDS THE, UH, THE BRIDGE PROSPECT BRIDGE THAT, THAT PROBABLY ALLEVIATED A LOT OF PEOPLE RUNNING ACROSS THAT GAS STATION, BECAUSE NOW THERE IS FOOD OPTIONS AROUND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET WITH HER STAYING AT THE MOTEL THAT WHERE SHEETZ IS THAT THEY DON'T SAY THEY DON'T, THERE'S NOBODY THERE, CORRECT? YEP. 
          SO WE FELT PRETTY CONFIDENT IN MAKING THAT DECISION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE NEXT ONE IS THE ONE MR. ARTEAGA, UH, JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS AS THE EAST STABLE BRIDGE, UH, FINISHED UP IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. 
          UM, THIS IS A PITCHER JOURNEY WHERE THEY HAD TO TAKE OUT A BUNCH OF LOOSE AND BAD CONCRETE. 
          AND THEN THE FAR RIGHT PICTURE SHOWED YOU AFTERWARDS ONCE THE POXY AND EVERYTHING WAS DONE. 
          UM, ONCE THIS WAS DONE, BASED OFF THE BEAT OUT TO ANNUAL REPORTS, UM, THEY HAD TO DO SOME SMALL REPAIRS UNDERNEATH, UM, PATCHING AND STUFF AND CLEANED AROUND IT. 
          UM, THE DECK WAS MILL DOWN, LIKE I SAID, CONCRETE REPAIRS AND THE NEW, UH, POXY OVERLAY PUT ON TOP AND ON NEW EXPANSION JOINTS, THEY GOT NEW EXPANSION JOINTS AS WELL. 
          UM, EIGHTH STREET, THIS WAS DONE A WHILE BACK, UM, DOWN, THIS IS DOWN BY THE STADIUM. 
          UM, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A HOT TOPIC ON THE OTHER SIDE, JUST TO KIND OF SHOW, UH, THIS IS EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE BEFORE, AND THIS WAS KIND OF TOWARDS THE END HERE. 
          UM, THIS WAS DONE AUGUST 19TH TO SEPTEMBER 19TH, UM, TO REDUCE THE FLOODING THERE AT EIGHTH STREET BRIDGE. 
          UM, AND IT, IT DOESN'T FLOOD NEAR AS MUCH, OF COURSE, LIKE SINCE SEPTEMBER WE HAD FOUR INCHES OF RAIN IN AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, IT DOES GET DOWN. 
          SO IT STILL FLOODS. 
          UH, WE DON'T GET NEAR AS MUCH TRASH THOUGH. 
          AND DEBRIS IS CAUGHT UP IN THE CULVERTS IN THE BRIDGE. 
          UM, THE, A COUPLE OF HOUSES UP THE CREEK, THEY SAID THAT HAS REALLY HELPED THEM. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T GOT THE WATER IN THEIR BASEMENTS, NO MORE AND STUFF. 
          SO, UM, MR. DOTSON AND MR. JENKINS BOATS WERE THRILLED, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STUFF LIKE I SAID, WASHING DOWN. 
          AND AGAIN, JUST TO, JUST TO REITERATE, UM, THE SAME ENGINEERING FIRM, THE SAME ACTUAL ENGINEER, UM, THAT PUT THE PERMITS IN THROUGH, UH, OF THE VMRC, IS THAT RIGHT? 
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BMRC AND, UH, THAT'S ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. 
          YES. 
          ALONG WITH INPUT FROM DBQ AND GAMING, ELLA FISHERY IN THEY'RE CALLED SOMETHING ELSE. 
          NOW, UM, THE SAME GROUP IS THE ONE THAT DID THE PERMITTING FOR THIS DECK SPACE THAT HE'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT, THAT WE'RE HAVING SOME, UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT. 
          AND SO, UM, ON THIS PORTION, THEY DID NOT, THEY DID NOT NEED AND, UH, ENS PLAN AND WERE NOT REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY IS DOING EMS PLAN. 
          I HAD A MEETING FRIDAY WITH AN ENGINEER AND THE ENGINEER ADMITTED THAT BECAUSE OF THE SCALE, THE SIZE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE WERE MAKING ON THIS NEW PHASE OF HAPPY CREEK, UM, THERE'S A CODE SECTION THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE DISTURBING MORE THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET, IS THAT RIGHT? THERE WAS DIFFERENT POINTS, 10,000 DIFFERENT TOWNS. 
          SO IT FELL WITHIN A RANGE THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN ENS PLAN. 
          UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ONE COULD ARGUE THAT IT PASSES DEQ IF IT PASSES IT, THE VMRC, IF IT PASSES US CORPS OF ENGINEERS, YOU WOULD THINK WE WOULDN'T NEED ANY ASK, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON. 
          NOW, THE ENS PLAN IS SUBMITTED FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE APPROVAL AND YOU CAN FLIP THE SIDE SLIDE THERE. 
          WE DO HAVE APPROVAL TO, UM, TO GO AHEAD AND START BACK THE, UH, THE CUTTING OF THE BRUSH. 
          SO THAT'S GOING TO START UP AGAIN TOMORROW. 
          WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN ON THAT SO THAT WE'LL BE STARTING BACK UP TOMORROW. 
          THERE WILL NOT BE ANY, UH, EARTHWORK, ANY, ANY DISTURBANCE OF THE GROUND, JUST THE CUTTING OF THE TREES. 
          UM, ROBBY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU DO THIS. 
          AND I'LL JUST CAUSE YOU GOT PICTURES NEXT, RIGHT? YES. 
          PICTURES. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO HIJACK YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, THE, ONE OF THE, UH, DRAWINGS THAT WAS DONE BY THE ENGINEER, CHOOSE YOUR CLEANING OUT THE SEDIMENT AND STUFF, AND THEN ARMORING THE BANK AND THEN GET YOUR TREES ON THE TOP. 
          THERE JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU THERE. 
          AND THEN YOUR WATER LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS OFFSET A CIVIL CHARGE AS PART OF THE DEQ CONSENT ORDER. 
          UM, DO THE, UH, EFFLUENT OVERFLOWING THE BYPASSES THAT THE WASTEWATER, UM, THE ORIGINAL CIVIL CHARGE WAS 38,615. 
          UM, THEY ONLY MADE US PAY $3,915, BUT WE HAVE TO SPEND AT LEAST 34 SEVEN ON DOING WORK ALONG THE CREEK, UM, AS AN APPROVEMENT, AS A PROJECT. 
          SO I MADE A MISSTATEMENT IN A PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          UM, AND I LOOKED DOWN WITH ROBBIE AND WE DID A SITE INSPECTION. 
          SO ALONG THE BANK, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP TREES THAT ARE FOUR INCHES OR LARGER ALONG THE BANK BECAUSE THE SHIPPER CAN'T SHIP UP ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT ANYWAYS. 
          UM, AND THIS SECTION IS WHERE WE CLEAR OUT. 
          WE CLEAR EVERYTHING OUT, RIGHT, ROBIN, ANYWAY, THAT'S BASED ON THAT'S BASED UPON THE VMRC PERMIT ARMY CORPS OR ARMY CORPS AND THE BRC. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          BRCS WATER. 
          UH, DOES THE BANKS AND THE WATER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BY PERMIT, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CLEAR OUT HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE LARGER TREES ON THE BANK AND PUT THE RIP WRAP AROUND THE LARGER TREES. 
          THERE IS A SECTION, UM, DOWN CLOSE TO THE SOUTH STREET BRIDGE Y'ALL WITH ME. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE HAD A CONTRACTOR CAME IN AND OVER A COURSE OF SEVERAL DAYS, THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING THEIR WAY UP FROM THE CREEK UP TO THE BANK. 
          AND, UM, THE CON THE UPON INSPECTION WE EXPECTED EVERY DAY, THEIR WORK UPON INSPECTION. 
          WE FOUND OUT THAT THE CONTRACTOR DID CUT SOME TREES LARGER THAN FOUR INCHES, AND HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO CUT THE TREES. 
          SO HE GOT PULLED OFF THE JOB. 
          UM, SO THERE WAS A SECTION DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTH STREET BRIDGE THAT SOME OF THOSE LARGER TREES CUT OUT THE WILLOW TREE AS WAS MENTIONED, AS I MENTIONED, UH, MONDAY NIGHT AFTER HE WAS ALREADY DEAD. 
          UM, WE DID NOT CUT THAT TREE OUT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          IT WAS CUT OUT FOR FOUR MONTHS AGO. 
          UM, THIS YOU JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER WEEK 1300, WE'RE MOVING INTO THE MATERIALS AND VEGETATION TO HELP THE FLOW IS YOU ALL, YOU'RE PERMITTING, UM, REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE SINCE WE HAVE TO SPEND SO MUCH, WE HAVE TO BUILD A SHOW WHERE WE SPENT THAT MONEY. 
          SO THERE'S ALREADY THREE AGENCIES THAT ARE REVIEWED THIS, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY FOR THE FOURTH IS WHICH ONE'S THE FOURTH. 
          THANK YOU THOUGH. 
          SO YOU GOT DEQ, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO FISHERIES, UH, THE MRC. 
          OH, SORRY. 
           ACTUALLY, IT WAS A DEAL WITH DEQ. 
          SO, BUT BEFORE LAST MONDAY NIGHT, HE HAD WENT THROUGH THREE OF THESE AGENCIES AND NOW HE'S GOING THROUGH THE FOURTH. 
          NO, IT'S GONE THREE OR FOUR AGENCIES. 
          NOW IT'S SAID THE COUNTY DON'T INSPECTOR'S OFFICE. 
          THE ONLY THING IS WHAT THE COUNTIES WERE, DOES ENS. 
          UM, FAR AS ALL THE ACTUAL OTHER WORK, THEY WENT THROUGH ALL FOUR OF THEM. 
          AND THEN PRIOR TO THE PROJECT STARTING, SO THE ENGINEER CAME UP 
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FRIDAY. 
          UM, WE MET WITH THE, MET WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR. 
          UM, THE ONLY INSPECTOR HAD QUESTIONS BASED UPON THE PERMIT APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED. 
          UM, BASED UPON THE CONVERSATION THAT ROBIN, THE ENGINEER HAD WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, PRETTY OPTIMISTIC THINGS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. 
          THEY DO A SITE SITE REVIEW AS WELL, UH, PRIOR, OR AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THE CORE, ANY OF THOSE AGENCIES? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THIS, UH, THE, THE ONLY GAME OF FISHERIES AND DEQ SEND THEIR COMMENTS TO THE BMRC. 
          SO THE ONLY TWO ACTUAL PEOPLE THAT, THAT ISSUE A PERMIT IS VMRC AND THE ARMY CORPS. 
          UM, SO LIKE FOR US, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY INTERACTION WITH THE ONLY GAME FISHER DQ. 
          UM, THEY SEND ORDERS TO BMR, MAYBE MRC, AND THEN, AND THEY DEAL WITH US FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, PART, PART OF MY DISAPPOINTMENT IN THIS IS I WISH, YOU KNOW, I WISH WE'D HAD THE ENS. 
          I WISH THE ENGINEER PUT FORWARD THIS PLAN OR ADVISED US THAT HE NEEDED IT. 
          I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE, BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY NICE WHEN IT'S FINISHED, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S UGLY RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT FINISHED. 
          UM, THERE'S STILL STOMPS THERE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMOVED. 
          UM, UM, NEXT SPRING WE HOPE TO PLANT TREES WORK WITH THE, UH, THE OFFICIAL NUMBERS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR FAST TREES ALONG THE TOP PART OF THE BANK TO REALLY BEAUTIFY THAT AREA. 
          UM, I'VE GOTTEN, FRANKLY, I'VE GOTTEN, I HAVE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS FROM SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS, THE TREE STEWARDS AND VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS, BUT I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF PHONE CALLS. 
          I WAS AT THE GROCERY STORE THIS WEEKEND AND SOMEONE CAME UP AND JUST SAID, THEY'RE JUST REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE CLEANING CLEAN THAT AREA UP. 
          A LOT OF IT IS SHRUB BRUSHED. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST POPLAR WOOD OR ASSISTANT MASS. 
          LIKE, YOU'LL SEE PITCHERS, YOU SEE IT'S A MURRAY, SOME OF THEM, BUT FOR THE HERE SHADY, THEY WERE HOW BAD SOME OF THE ROOTS, YOUR WORST OUT. 
          I JUST MAKE A COMMENT. 
          FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED. 
          UM, I GREW UP RIGHT THERE NEAR THAT CREEK. 
          THIS HAS HAPPENED TWICE, TWO OR THREE TENS SINCE. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME. 
          I THINK THE LAST TIME IT WAS DONE WAS WHEN THE BIKE TRAIL WENT THROUGH, YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH, CUT ALL THE UNDERGROWTH DOWN AND IT REALLY LOOKS NICE AND BELIEVE ME FROM PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OTHER THAN THEM, THEN A FEW OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAME DOWN AND SPOKE, UH, IT'S POSITIVE, POSITIVE REACTION. 
          UM, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THERE THERE'S A LOT OF DRUG USE THAT GOES ON DOWN THROUGH THAT STUFF. 
          AND, AND LIKE I SAID, ME PERSONALLY, HAVING A BIKE PATH WALKING TRAIL THERE, I WOULD BE EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS. 
          AND IF SOMETHING EVER HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF MY WIFE WAS WALKING DOWN THAT PATH AND, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER THAN IT'S CLEARED OUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THIS IS MY OPINION. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THANKS. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          CAUSE, UM, THERE, THERE RIP RAP ALONG A LARGE SECTION FACING COMMERCE WHERE THE, THE, UH, THE ONE WALK PATH IS AND, UM, AND YOU'LL, BUT YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE PARTS WHERE THERE'S NO RIPPER APP. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE EROSION, THE EROSION THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT EROSION IN THAT AREA. 
          COMMERCE BET. 
          AND KINDA WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TOO. 
          WE DID GET A CALL THIS WEEK FROM YOU, YOU FACT, URBAN FORESTRY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND J I'M PROBABLY GONNA SAY THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, UH, HE, UH, HE HAD CALLED AND JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT DONE THAT. 
          THEY WOULD BE MORE HAPPY TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TREE DESIGN OR PICK TREES, YOU KNOW, HELPING WHERE THEY COULD AND STUFF. 
          AND I MEAN, HE WAS VERY NICE AND LIKE I SAID, OFFERED HIS HELP. 
          SO THE PLAN IS THAT ON THE BANKS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. 
          SO THE PLAN IS THAT ALL THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THAT MIDDLE PICTURE, LIKE ALL THAT STUFF IS BEING REMOVED AND JUST LIKE NEAR EIGHTH STREET, THERE'S GOING TO BE LARGE STONE ALONG THE BANKS TO HOLD THAT IN PLACE. 
          WELL, THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE A FILTER PAPER UNDERNEATH FILTER FABRIC, AND THEN, BUT YEAH. 
          THEN THERE'LL BE, OR THERE ISN'T ANY PLAN NECESSARILY TO REPLANT ANYTHING ALONG THE SIDES OF THE BANK, RIGHT? NO, NOT YET. 
          JUST NOT THE SUN, BUT UP AT THE TOP WILL BE TREATED IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE'VE BEEN GETTING TO TRY EVEN ALL THAT, LIKE ONE OF THE OTHERS, IF WE CAN HOLD IT BACK A LITTLE BIT TO LEAVE ROOM. 
          SO WE KNOW WE GOT ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORK, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT WORK. 
          IF THERE'S A GOOD, IF THERE'S A GOOD QUALITY TREE, GOOD HARDWOOD OR A GOOD QUALITY TREE ON THE BANK, THAT'S FOUR INCHES OR GREATER KEEPING IT, 
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YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          LIKE I SAID, LIKE THIS YEAR, YOU CAN SEE HOW BAD THOSE WERE. 
          WORSE THREATS WERE WORSE, DALE. 
          WELL, ROBIN, IT HASN'T BEEN THAT MANY YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT WHOLE SECTION FLOODED FROM MAIN STREET. 
          CAUSE I CAME ON, I WAS THE FIRST THING I HEARD WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL FOUR YEARS AGO. 
          WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PLAIN HAPPY CREEK AND STOP THE FLOODING? SO TO ME, THIS REALLY MAKES SENSE. 
          I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF THIS FOR THE FOUR YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL TO MAKE ONE OTHER POINT TO WHAT BILL SAY, WHERE THE STORM PIPE IS, WHERE IT COMES INTO THE HAPPY CREEK, IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE. 
          SO EVERY TIME THERE'S A BIG RAIN AND THAT CREEK COMES UP ALL THAT STORM PIPE UP AND YOU COULD SEE IT SHOOTING UP OUT OF THE MAN HOMES BACK HOME, POLAND, UH, EVEN OVER AS FAR AS WRITTEN ON IT. 
          AND I LOVED THE GENTLEMAN UP RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF PROSPECT AND POLAND. 
          THERE'S A WHITE HOUSE THAT SITS BACK THERE, WOKE HIM UP MEDIANS AND A COUSIN OF MINE BECAUSE IT WAS FLOODED IN ONE NIGHT. 
          AND THIS HAS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT WHEN HE OPENED UP THE DOOR, THAT WAS WHERE ALL THAT WATER COMES FROM. 
          IT COMES RIGHT DOWN POLAND, UH, UP OUT OF THE MANHOLE WHEN THERE IS A HEAVY RAIN LIKE THAT. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE, WHEN HE OPENED UP THE DOOR, I KIND OF FEEL BAD BECAUSE WHEN HE GOES TO DUMP THE DOOR, THAT'S WHEN ALL THE WATER KENDALL FLOODED HIS HOUSE PRETTY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NEXT ONE IS THE, UH, FIVE 22 PARALLEL WATERLINE. 
          UM, LEE HAS KIND OF SHAPE OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE 30% THAT, UH, DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED, UM, SUBMITTED SOME RAILROAD PERMITTING, UH, GEO-TECH GEO-TECHNICAL WORK. 
          UM, THEY HAD A BARGE OUT BY THE GOLF COURSE AND DID SOME, SOME WORKOUT THERE WHILE BACK, UM, FIRST ROUND OF EASEMENT LETTERS WENT OUT IN OCTOBER AND THE SECOND ROUND SHOULD BE GOING OUT PROBABLY THIS WEEK, UH, WORKING WITH DOCS ABOUT UTILITIES AND, UH, WE'LL THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR THE PUMP STATION THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE INSIDE THE WASTEWATER FENCE. 
          UM, SO FAR ENGINEERING COSTS UP TO DATE IS $400,615. 
          UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE 60%, UH, DESIGN, UH, DOCUMENTS AND BID SPECIFICATIONS, UM, AND ENCROACHMENT OF, UH, AGREEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAYS, UM, IN THE EVENINGS, UH, LIKE I SAID, SECOND ROUND OF EASEMENTS GOING OUT THE 18TH. 
          UM, SOME OF THE SURVEYING, UM, DOWN HERE GIVES YOU A KIND OF A ROUGH LINE OF THE 60, 90, AND 100%, 100% IS FORBID READY DOCUMENTS. 
          THAT WOULD BE A MARKED SHIFT, 2021, UH, PROJECTED COSTS, UH, 12 MILLION. 
          UM, ONE THAT OF COURSE IS ONE THAT, UM, RECENT WATERLINE PROJECTS, UM, NORTH SHANDO AVENUE. 
          UM, THIS WAS BEFORE WE TALKED WITH THE PAVING, UH, THERE WAS A 12 INCH ON THE, UH, SPEEDWAY SIDE. 
          YOU SEE THE HEAD SIDE, THERE WAS A SIX INCH ON A UNITED BACKSIDE. 
          UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH AND, UH, 14TH, 15TH, 17TH, AND 18TH, EACH ONE IS THAT INTERSECTIONS. 
          AND WE TIED THE SIX AND THE 12 ACROSS SHADOW AVENUE TOGETHER, UM, TO HELP WITH THE WATER. 
          UH, WHEN WE DID 14TH STREET USED TO HAVE AN OLD SIX INCH WATER LINE ON, IF YOU EVER NOTICED IT NEVER HAD ANY FIRE DOWN 14TH STREET BY MOUNTAIN POT IN THE MOTELS AND STUFF. 
          UM, SO WE PUT A 10 INCH WATER LINE IN OFF OF THE 12, UM, AND PUT FIRE HYDRANTS IN, AND THERE'S ALSO A 10 INCH LINE THAT CUTS ACROSS VIRGINIA. 
          SO WE TIED IT IN. 
          SO THAT WAY IT WAS ALL LOOPED. 
          UM, AND THIS WAS ALSO BASED OFF THE WATER MODEL THAT WAS DONE THE OTHER YEAR. 
          UM, BELLER AVENUE WAS UPGRADED FROM FOREIGN STRANDS, LIKE, UH, THE SIX INCH CAST. 
          AND THEN WE REPLACED SOME FIREFIGHTERS, UH, FOR THESE COUPLE OF PROJECTS. 
          SERGEANT COST WAS 557,540. 
          UM, THIS LICENSE, THIS IS KIND OF ALL FOR THE PAVING OR THE OTHER ONE TOO. 
          UM, WE DID STEEL ON SCOTT, HAVE YOU AND PARK KNEW ALL THOSE UP IN THERE. 
          UM, ANY SERVICES THAT WAS GAL AS WE REPLACE REPLACE THE MAINS, PUT NEW VALVE, UM, YOU KNOW, REPLACE THE HATTON COST FOR THOSE COUPLE OF STREETS WAS 462,000, UM, THIS COMING YEAR, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE PAVING THAT DIDN'T GET APPROVED, BUT WE HAD THE MONEY TO WORK. 
          UM, NO FRO AVENUE AND 14TH DOWN TO COMMERCE. 
          UM, THE PLAN IS TO EXTEND THE, THE TENANTS DOWN TO THERE AND THEN TIE BACK IN, UH, THE WAR MODEL SHOWS EVENTUALLY AS WE DO A ROLE TAKING THE BIGGER LINE ON DOWN TO MAIN STREET WHERE THE 12 COMES ACROSS AND TIED 
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IT IN. 
          SO THAT WAY THAT'S TIED IN ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 12 THAT COMES DOWN. 
          UM, BUT THE PRICE FOR THAT, THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED ROUGHLY OUR IDEALS ABOUT 450, 2,640. 
          UM, AND THEN BRAXTON ROAD IS AN OLD TRANSLATE, A FOUR-INCH WATER LINE. 
          UM, INSTEAD OF REPLACE THAT FROM A PER TOPIC, LEAVES DOWN THE POPE LOOKING ABOUT 219,120, WELL HOPE MAYBE TO FIND ENOUGH MONEY TO MAYBE DO MY NASSIS, UM, AVENUE THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND. 
          UM, ALL THE SARAH WORK ON UPPER IN HIS TRANS, LIKE, IT'D BE NICE. 
          SAY WE'RE STILL KIND OF KICKING THAT AROUND A WATER STORAGE TANKS. 
          UM, THE MORGAN HILL, UM, WAS DONE, UH, THIS YEAR. 
          UH, THIS WAS DONE ALREADY WITH OUR SERVICE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, UM, ALL OF OUR TANKS EXCEPT FOR FIVE 22 NORTH ON A SERVICE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. 
          SO WE PAY ON AN AVERAGE ABOUT 30 GRAND A YEAR. 
          UM, THEY COME IN EVERY YEAR AND INSPECT IT, AND IF THEY NEED ANY WORK, THEY COVER IT UNDER THAT SERVICE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, THIS YEAR, UM, 3 MILLION GALLON TANK WAS DRAINED DOWN, UM, AND CHEDDAR WAS COMPLETELY SANDBLASTED THE BARE METAL AND GOT TO A COACH. 
          SO PRIMARY INTERMEDIATE, AND THEN ONE FINISHED COAT, UM, TACK EXTERIOR WAS CLEANED, SOME SPOT REPAIRS WAS NEEDED, AND THEN THEY GOT TO A FINISH COATS. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS SOME, UH, EVENTS, UH, THAT WERE REPLACED IN SOME SEALS ON THE BASE AT THE BOTTOM AND THE HATCH, UM, FOR THAT ONE. 
          AND THIS ONE WAS COMPLETED RIGHT AFTER FIVE 22, ONE FIVE 22 WAS PUT BACK IN SERVICE. 
          WE TOOK THIS ONE OUT WHILE THEY WERE HERE. 
          UM, ONE SITE, UM, LET ME SEE IF I FIVE 22, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS TANK'S EVER BEEN OUT OF SERVICE SINCE IT WAS BUILT ON. 
          I THOUGHT I'D PUT THE YEAR IN HERE  87 97. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THIS GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE TANK, UM, AND IT GOT EVERYTHING, UH, TANK EXTERIOR, YOU KNOW, TIRE, WORST SPOT REPAIRS GOT PAINTED, UM, PLACED EVENTS, SEALS, AND GASKETS. 
          UM, THIS ONE, THE MAIN THING WITH THIS ONE THAT WAS KIND OF DIFFERENT, CAUSE IT'S TAKEN THERE, BEEN ONLINE AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO, IF THERE WAS A FIRE AT ONE INDUSTRIAL ON FIVE 22, YOU KNOW, WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER? UM, SO THEY DID A, UH, TANK OFFLINE PLAN. 
          UH, WE MET WITH THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE FIRE. 
          MARSHALL DID A BUNCH OF TESTING AND, UH, IF WE FIGURED OUT IF WE TURNED GUARD HILL AND TURNED THE PUMPS UP, THAT WE COULD PUMP ENOUGH, EVEN IF THEY HAD A BAD FIRE TO MEET WHAT THEY NEEDED OUT ON FIVE 22. 
          AND YOU GET IT FOR A SHORT PERIOD IN HELL LESS PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THANK GOD. 
          NO, NO. 
          KNOCK ON KNOCK ON WOOD. 
          NO, THANKFULLY EVERYTHING WAS QUIET, BUT THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT WAS 934,200. 
          AND GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THAT FOR ALL THAT MONEY WENT, WE AIN'T GOING TO TAKE OUR LOGO THAT BIG, NICE, BIG, NICE RED CANOE. 
          THAT HAS, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THEY MISSED YOU, MARY ELLEN UP THERE. 
           YOU GOT TO GO UP THERE THOUGH. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANKS ROBIN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHY I BUY THEM FOR CONTINUED WEEKEND CLOSURE BANK STREET. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. MAYOR, WE WERE SCHEDULED TO, UM, CLOSE MAIN STREET, NOVEMBER 30TH, UM, PER PREVIOUS, UH, PUBLIC NOTICES, UM, CAME AND SPOKE AND ONE OF THE CONTINUE TO CLOSE THE THROUGH A WINTER. 
          UM, IT GOES AGAINST MY PREVIOUS NOTICE THAT I WANTED TO GET INPUT FROM COUNCIL. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT CONSIDERING NEXT WEEK IS THANKSGIVING WEEK. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT MAIN STREET CLOTHES ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON? INCLUDES THE THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, OR, UM, I PREFER NOT TO BRING STAFF IN, UM, PAYING THEM TIME AND A HALF. 
          UM, BUT I WANTED TO GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU REGARDING NEXT WEEK AND GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU AS IT RELATES TO CLOSING DURING THE WINTER. 
          DEFINITELY WEDNESDAY, WINTER. 
          I KEEP IT OPEN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW STAFF COMING DOWN. 
          IF THEY CAN PUT THE HEATER OR SOMETHING OUT THERE, THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM WITH ROUTING AROUND NOW, THEY GET UP TO A BARKING. 
          SO I, I WOULD UTILIZE THE STAFF ON THEIR WORK DAY RATHER THAN BRINGING THEM OUT. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          I MEAN, IF, IF WE HEAR, UM, IF WE HEAR COMPLAINTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THOSE LINES THAT WE CAN 
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ADDRESS, UM, THAT I THINK WE NEED ROUNDING AROUND ON CHESTER THROUGH THE PARKING LOT. 
           BECAUSE WE MOVED, WE MOVED IT DOWN FURTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOT DOWN TO THE SCIENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          IF ROBBIE COULD JUST, UM, COULD YOU PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO SEE WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, COST IS GOING THROUGH AND CREW AS FAR AS POSSIBLY SHOVING HIS DALE THERE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, ONCE SOMETHING LEFT. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HOURS THAT WE HAVE? WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE BOWERS. 
          THE QUESTION OF IT IS, IS THAT WE HAVEN'T QUITE WELL. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE, UM, WHAT'S SECTION OF THE SHUTTLE. 
           I THINK YOU JUST KEEP CHESTER AROUND AND THEN IT LOOKED TO DO THAT ONE. 
          NO, I'M TELLING YOU, THERE'S JUST NO GOOD ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          TRUST ME. 
          IT'S HARD TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT WE DO. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE ACTUALLY CANISTERS, RIGHT? YEAH, WE DO. 
          AND I'LL JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING TO JUST KEEP THE MIND, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CLOTHES AT HERE RIGHT NOW WHERE HE'S A WATER-FILLED SO THE COLDER, IT GETS YOU ON MONDAYS. 
          WE HAVE TO DUMP THAT WATER ON MAIN STREET. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST FREEZE UP THAT PLASTIC'S NOT REAL THICK ON HIM. 
          I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE THE BOTTLERS ON BUGGIES HANDS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EXTRA CANISTERS, BUT JUST THE THOUGHT IS COLD WEATHER CONS. 
          WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT? WELL, IT'S MAYBE A TIME FOR ANOTHER DAY, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT SOME SORT OF PERMANENT PLAN WITH IT. 
          I MEAN, LISTEN PEOPLE, UM, WE'RE, UH, WE BROUGHT THIS UP, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS AGO AND PEOPLE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS. 
          WE NEVER GOT TRACTION ON IT, THEN COVID HAPPENS. 
          AND LO AND BEHOLD, WE WERE FORCED TO DO IT AND COME TO FIND OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT, UM, ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          AND I BET YOU THEY'D LIKE IT EVEN MORE, IF THERE WAS MORE PERMANENT STRUCTURES AND PAVING AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN THAT DIRECTION. 
          UM, AS I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT, UM, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE TO BE A ONE LANE ROAD THROUGH THERE WITH PATIO OR SOMETHING, OR JUST COMPLETELY CLOSED DOWN THROUGH THERE, WHAT ARE YOU MAKING FACES?  WHAT ARE YOU REALLY INTERESTED IN? YOU KNOW, GETTING EITHER A PUBLIC OPINION POLL OR, UM, YOU KNOW, GAUGING THE APPETITE ON, UH, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF STORES WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO EXPAND OUT AND PATIOS IN THAT AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          I WANT TO COMPLETELY BLOCKED OFF PARLAYING OFF OF COUNSELING WITH COMMENT WHERE WE ENTERED THE END OF THAT SITUATION ON THE DISCUSSION OF CLOSING DOWN MAIN STREET, THE POINT WAS PEOPLE COULDN'T GET THEIR DELIVERIES TO THEIR FRONT DOOR. 
          UH, WE HAD A, ANY COMPLAINTS. 
          I'VE ONLY HEARD ONE SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THAT KNOW THAT THEY'RE DELIVERING DURING THE WEEK. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          REALIZED LOUNGE STREET, LOUNGE STREET MALL WAS FLOUNDERING FOR YEARS AND THEY, THEY HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS COMING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET MOLES DURING THE WEEK AT CERTAIN TIMES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL, UM, UH, THE ASSOCIATION BEFORE THE ASSOCIATION AND, AND HIRED A MARKETING COMPANY TO ACTUALLY MARKET THE MALL MARKET. 
          AND IT EXPLODED IT BOOMED. 
          UM, AND IT'S WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL PRIOR TO COVID I THINK EVEN NOW IT'S STILL SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, SO THAT'S PART OF A PLAN WE CAN, I CAN GET WITH, UH, TIM AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE CAN INITIATE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AND WHAT IT WOULD BE AND PUT IT IN A BUDGET NEXT YEAR TO, TO START GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          I THINK LIKE CONCEPTUALLY, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT NOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS A BIT OF A FEEL LIKE, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS CLOSED DOWN, HOW MUCH OR FOOTAGE WITH EACH RESTAURANT OR LOBBY ABLE TO GAIN, YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PUT UP LIKE, UH, CANOPIES OR FENCING OR EXTRA TABLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE LEFT A ONE LANE THROUGH THERE NOT SAYING THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF THAT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THE CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH SPACE WOULD WE GAIN IN DOING THAT IN THE ROOM, REMOVE THE PARKING THROUGH THERE. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF WE REMOVED THE PARKING THROUGH THERE? WHERE ELSE DO WE HAVE THE PARKING? SO I JUST THINK THAT'D BE WORTH TALKING ABOUT SOME CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS. 
          AND I THINK IF PEOPLE SAW THAT IT MIGHT GAIN SOME MOMENTUM, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE ALREADY TESTS RAN THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS, I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS, OR AT LEAST THE, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DELIVERIES OR WHATEVER. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT WE HEARD WERE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE THAT APPARENTLY THERE'S A 
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LOT OF APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, ABOVE THE SCORE'S MAIN STREET AND ABOUT PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THEIR GROCERIES AND STUFF. 
          BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, WHEN I SPOKE WITH THEM, THEY, I SPOKE WITH THEM. 
          THEY WERE CONCERNED, BUT THEY SAID THEY HAD LEARNED TO ADJUST AND THEY GOT THEIR GROCERIES DURING THE WEEK BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE ANYTHING UP THE STAIRS ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          SO I'M JUST SAYING, EVEN THE PEOPLE RESIDENTS ON MAIN STREET HAVE ADJUSTED THE PARK THERE ANYWAYS. 
          I MEAN, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR GROCERIES UP THE STAIRS. 
          I KNOW, BUT IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO SIGN IT. 
          I AGREE. 
          THEY HAVE  LET, JUST GO. 
          LIKE JAKE WAS SAYING THREE YEARS AGO, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GOT BURNED UP OVER THAT AND UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SUPPORT FORWARD, BUT NOW IT SEEMS TO BE PICKING UP. 
          I JUST, YOU KNOW. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AS IT RELATES TO DECEMBER 1ST OR IN DECEMBER, JANUARY PROBLEM WITH WATER BARRIER, IT'S GOING TO RAPIDLY WE'LL FILL IT UP, CORRECT? THE PLASTIC. 
          I MEAN, DO WE REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE OUT USING IT ON WEEKENDS AND 30, 20 DEGREE TEMPERATURE? I AGREE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER AND THE WEATHER HAS BEEN REALLY NICE. 
          I MEAN, WE EVEN LAST YEAR, WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW MUCH OF A WINTER WINTER IN FEBRUARY LAST OR THIS, THIS YEAR, IT WAS LIKE 60 DEGREES. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DEFINITELY THINK THAT FIRST WEEKEND, DECEMBER IS THE CHRISTMAS PARADE THAT THEY REROUTED IT THOUGH. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, BUT I'M SAYING THOUGH, IT'S GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PLANNED THINGS AROUND THE BUSINESS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M, I'M WORRIED THAT IF WE STOP IT, THAT IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET BACK. 
          JUST SAYING NOTHING. 
          JUST KEEP IT ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          WHY CAN'T WE JUST KEEP IT PLAN ON KEEPING IT CLOSE AND IF IT BECOMES HUGE ISSUE OR THERE'S PROBABLY A PUBLIC OUTCRY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, ROBBIE, THIS, SO THE CONCERN IS THE MARIEL BARRIERS, THE COLDER IT GETS COULD FREEZE SO FAR. 
          WE'VE BEEN GOOD. 
          IT MIGHT BE FOR A WHILE, YOU KNOW? AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN IT, OF COURSE YOU HAD TO, YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL CAUSE WE'RE DUMPING IT OUT ON THE GROUND. 
          YOU KNOW,  THE ICE, THE PLASTIC ONE IS NOT AS THICK AS YOU THINK AND STUFF, BUT, WELL, JUST THE THOUGHT OF LEAVING NOW TO GO BACK TO THE BALLARDS AND THE CANISTERS. 
          REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT DOING CANISTERS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE THE EXTRA CANCERS. 
          YEAH, I HAVE THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, VALERIE IS IT, IS THERE A CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE, UH, DURING THE I'M HERE TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WORK FOR NO REASON. 
          YES. 
          WELL DOESN'T MEAN WORK FOR NO REASON. 
          NO, ONE'S GOING TO USE IT AND YOU'RE GONNA BE GETTING PHONE CALLS, FIVES, MAIN STREET CLOSED AND NO ONE'S ON MAIN STREET TO ME. 
          KEEP IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          LET'S DO IT TILL PEOPLE  WAIT, ARE YOU SURE?  CAN WE EXTEND IT TO DC? WE CAN DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS ME TO DO. 
          I WORK AT YOUR PLEASURE. 
          DECEMBER 31ST. 
          I THINK CHRISTMAS IS GOING TO BE REALLY PRETTY AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DOWN THERE SHOPPING AT THE SMALLER SHOPS. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE NINE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'M EXTENDED TO DECEMBER 31ST CHRISTMAS LIGHTS ON THE VALERIE  CHRIS'S CELL PHONES LISTED. 
           BLOWING UP ALREADY. 
           RIGHT. 
          AVENUE. 
          YES. 
          MS. BARRY, THIS IS A LITTLE UNCONVENTIONAL. 
          UM, WE AND OLD TIM YOU'RE HERE. 
          DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A QUICK BRIEFING? UM, USUALLY WE WOULD HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD FULLY REVIEW IT AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE WORK SESSION AND THEY LOU TAKE IT TO A REGULAR MEETINGS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, IT'S ACCORDING TO STAFF, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT ISSUES, NOT A PROBLEM. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO SHAVE OFF A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          TIM, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A QUICK SUMMARY? UH, YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT, YEAH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER. 
          THE PLANNING COALITION WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT ON WEDNESDAY, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, THEN 
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JANUARY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE  DISTRICT AND THIS DISTRICT HAS NO SHORTAGE OF NON-CONFORMING LOTS, BUT IN, IN THE R ONE BILLS, CORRECT. 
          THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU DO HAVE TO NON-CONFORMING LOT. 
          YOU CANNOT BUILD OR DEVELOP ON THAT LOT UNLESS YOU RECEIVE AN APPROVAL EITHER ADMINISTRATIVELY OR THROUGH THIS COUNCIL. 
          AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE DEGREE OF NOT IN THE DEFORMITY, IF IT'S LESS THAN 1%, UH, IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND DECISION NONCONFORMITIES ARE, ARE GREATER THAN THAT COUNCIL. 
          AND THERE IS A PROPRIETARY AREA, UH, GREAT EQUATION OF SORTS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THAT HAS TO BE MET. 
          UH, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING PURCHASE TWO LOTS TO COMBINE THOSE LOTS. 
          UH, EACH OF BLOGS IS NON-CONFORMING AND BOTH SIZE ON THE WEB. 
          THE COMBINING OF THE TWO LOTS DOES ACCOMPLISH ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES AND THAT THE NEW LAW WILL BE CONFORMING. 
          THAT WILL BE OVER THE 10,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT IT STILL WILL NOT MEET THE 75 FEET WITH REQUIREMENT. 
          THESE ARE 25 FOOT WIDE, LOTS THAT WE SEE POPULATING, UH, ALONG GRAND AVENUE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THAT, THAT DEGREE OF NON-CONFORMITY IS IT'S COMING TO YOU. 
          THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A HOME SIZE OF 1,852 SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, WE HAVE CALCULATED THE AREA THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR A COMPARATIVE VALUE. 
          AND WHAT THE ORDINANCE STATES IS THAT WE TAKE, THERE WERE 14 HOMES. 
          WE TOOK THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THOSE 14 HOMES, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND YOU COME UP WITH A VALUE OF 2050 SQUARE FEET FOR COMPARATIVE PURPOSES. 
          THE ORPHAN SAYS THAT YOU TAKE 60% OF THAT VALUE FOR COMPARISON SAKE. 
          THAT BRINGS IT DOWN TO 1,230 SQUARE FEET. 
          AND THEN IT GOES ON FURTHER TO STATE THAT THE HOUSE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED HAS TO BE AT LEAST 90% OF THAT VALUE OR 1,107 SQUARE FEET IS THAT THE PROPOSED HOME DOES ACTUALLY EXCEED THE, UH, MATHEMATICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPARATIVE VALUE AND IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE AVERAGE HOME SIZE OF 2015 THAN IT IS OF THE ORDINANCE STANDARD OF 1,107 IN TERMS OF, YEAH, IT W IT WILL ELIMINATE YOU'LL. 
          YOU WILL ELIMINATE ONE NON-CONFORMING LOT. 
          AND THE ONE LINE, ONE NON-CONFORMING LOT THAT WILL BE REMAINING WILL BE CONFORMING IN SIZE, BUT IT WILL NOT BE CONFORMING AND WEB STAFF DOESN'T FIND PROBLEMS WITH THE SIZE OF THE HOME, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLING OF IT. 
          UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME, SOME OBJECTIONS TO TELL YOU FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, HOW LONG ALONG THE STREET AND WHAT WOULD THEY BE? W I WAS GOING TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. 
          WHAT IS THE, WHAT WOULD IT BE? WHAT WOULD BE THE REASONING? WHY SOMEBODY WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THIS TURN INTO A LOT THAT COULD GET THE, I GUESS IF I, IF I WAS TO SUMMARIZE THE OBJECTIVES OBJECTIVES THAT WE, UH, HAVE RECEIVED AT SPEAK OF ALLOWING A SMALLER HOMES, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, AND LOOKING AT THIS HOME, UH, IT IS A TWO-STORY HOME AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE DIVERSITY OF ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION TYPES AND MATERIALS ON THE STREETS. 
          SO THERE'S NOT ONE MONOLITHIC OR A THEME THROUGH THERE. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW, TWO STORY HOMES. 
          MOST OF THEM ARE ONE STORY. 
          SO THAT TWO STORY DOES GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE MASS, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE CURB, UH, THAN, THAN WHAT YOU HAVE. 
          AND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE HOME OUTRIGHT, UH, THERE ARE FIVE OTHER HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER IN SIZE THAN THIS HOME ON GRAND AVENUE. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A LITTLE UNDER 200 SQUARE FEET OF THE ACTUAL AVERAGE SIZE, AND THIS WOULD NOT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SMALLEST TIME ON THE STREET ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE HOMES, UH, WOULD STILL, STILL, UH, BE SMALLER THAN THIS NICE TIMES, OR IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN CORRECT ME THOSE TIMES. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, USUALLY THEY'RE SINGLE LEVELS. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY NEED MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          ARE THE ONES THAT I'M LOOKING AT, MAYBE THE FOOTPRINT, MAYBE, YEAH, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY BUILT OVER THREE AND FOUR DS, 25 FOOT WIDE LOTS. 
          SO THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THEY JUST HAVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT. 
          UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THERE ARE TWO LOTS. 
          AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LOCK TO THE EAST, UH, WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT 
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WHOSE CONTRACT PURCHASER, UH, HAD THE TWO LOTS TO DEAL WITH. 
          UH, BUT, UH, I THINK IT DOES FAR EXCEED AS FAR AS THE VALUES ESTABLISHED BY IT AND BY THE ORDINANCE, UH, AT MEETS THAT CRITERIA. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THE, THE ORIENTATION OR THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS, UM, IS ANY WAY DETRIMENTAL OR, YOU KNOW, OUT TO TERRY AS TO THE, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT IS, AND IT DOES, UM, PENDING, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE THEM ALL THE MEXICANS ADVERTISE AND GETTING ALL THE NEXT AGENDA, SMALLER LOSS THAT REPLIED TO BACK IN THE DAY. 
          I MEAN, BOWEL WALL, WE CAN'T STOP THEM FROM BUILDING WITH THAT PROPERTY. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S A GOOD OBSERVATION BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AS A DENIAL, THEN ONCE THE PERSON LEFT TO DO WITH, WITH THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO JUST AS A CAVEAT, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS AND WE HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING PRESENTED IN DECEMBER. 
          UM, BUT THESE NON-CONFORMING LOTS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. 
          LAURIE, I THINK YOU AND CHRIS, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UM, TIM'S MADE A LOT OF HEADWAY WITH, WITH, UH, DOUG AND GEORGE, AS IT RELATES TO, UH, BLIGHTED PROPERTIES ON NON-CONFORMING LOTS AND INCENTIVIZING THE PROPERTY OWNER TO, UH, TEAR IT DOWN BY INCREASING, UH, WHAT'S ALLOWED IN CONCURRENTLY. 
          SO THAT FINANCING INCENTIVIZES THEM ALSO, AS IT RELATES TO, UH, HOUSES THAT ARE BOARDED UP IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN, THERE'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY. 
          WE HAVE THAT WITH THE CURRENT COVID HAS I SPOKE TO A PROPERTY OWNER WHO OWNS FOUR PROPERTIES IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN, ALL OF THEM BOARDED UP BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS PLANNING DIRECTOR'S DIRECTION, NOT RECENTLY, BUT IN THE PAST. 
          AND WHEN I SHARED CONCEPTUALLY, WHAT THE IDEA WAS THAT THIS PERSON WAS THRILLED TO DEATH AND COULDN'T WAIT TO DEVELOP FOUR PROPERTIES. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MOVING TO TRY TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THESE, THESE LAND OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND SMALL BUILDERS, ET CETERA, TO REDEVELOP THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BLIGHTED BECAUSE THE MARKET IS DICTATING THAT, AND OUR CODE IS FORCING THAT WELL IN THE MARKET, WE DON'T WANT ONE PUBLIC PURPOSE DUELING WITH ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT YOU, WE DON'T WANT THEM CONFLICTING. 
          WE WANT THEM TO BE COMPLIMENTING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          THANKS, TIM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT ITEM, ITEM SIX, REQUESTED RECEIVER RETIRED FOR WC FATHER RESCUE. 
          OH YES. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO RECEIVE OR THIRD AMBULANCE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE OR POLICE FUNCTION. 
          DO YOU WANT TO MENTION ANYTHING MORE ATTENTION IS SAVE THIS VEHICLE AND GO OUT FOR MAJOR CRASH SCENE INVESTIGATION, CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATIONS, MOBILE COMM UNIT, AS WELL AS A FIELD COMMANDER. 
          WE WANT TO TAKE HIS VEHICLE. 
          I'M BASICALLY MAKING AN OFFER OF THIS MULE WORKFORCE FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THIS VEHICLE, IF WE WERE TRYING TO GET THIS VEHICLE ON THE USED MARKET, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A 15 AND $20,000 VEHICLE THAT BROUGHT HER SISTERS IN FIRE AND RESCUE CAN ACTUALLY DONATE TO THE SPORTS. 
          YOU DON'T WANT GUYS, UM, DON'T WANT ME TO DO THE NUMBERS. 
          IT HAS JUST OVER 120,000 MILES ON IT. 
          UH, THE POWERTRAIN THAT'S ON THERE, IT'S ACTUALLY A DIESEL VEHICLE FOR AN AMBULANCE IT'S PAST ITS IT'S PAST ITS PRIME FOR RUNNING AS A PRIMARY AMBULANCE FOR US, WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET 10 TO 15 YEARS WORTH OF USE OUT OF THIS VEHICLE. 
          SO, SO THERE'S, UM, IT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED OR FORMALIZED WHETHER WE CAN GET THE VEHICLE AT, FOR A DOLLAR OR NOT, UM, PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE, UM, ALL LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL FIND THIS OR THE COUNTY WILL MAKE A DECISION. 
          I DID FIND THAT OUT. 
          IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO ON AGENDA TOMORROW. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF. 
          SO I GOT TO PUSH. 
          SO IT'LL BE THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'LL BE DECEMBER. 
          UM, THE, UM, OH, GEE WHIZ. 
          I JUST BLANKED OUT THE FOUNDATION, RIGHT. 
          PLEASE. 
          FOUNDATION IS TALKING ABOUT RETROFITTING MUCH OF IT. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING OVER TIME. 
          THEY CAN, THE FOUNDATION CAN MAKE IT A CAUSE. 
          SO THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS DO YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN US IF THERE'S, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE THAT TO US, ARE WE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE GIFT? AND IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THE BEST, I CAN RELAY THAT AS WELL. 
          50 CENTS 50 CENTS. 
          ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK 
          [01:15:01]
YOU. 
          UM, LAST THING I HAD A MAYOR, UH, THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, UM, 63 AND 67 AS AMENDED. 
          UM, IT DOES NOT AFFECT GOVERNMENT BODIES. 
          UM, SO I'M GOING TO HAPPEN TO BE THE LAST LINE ON PAGE 14 AFTER I DID ALL THIS WORK TO REPAIR. 
          SO JEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE CHANGING. 
          I SAW THAT SERGEANT CARR, YOU PROBABLY SAW, I SAW IT LATE. 
          UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE IN THE NEW YEAR, IF THIS, IF THIS CURRENT SITUATION CONTINUES, UM, DO WE WANT, WHAT DO WE WANT TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MEETINGS? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE REMOTE MEETINGS? IF YOU HAVE REMOTE MEETINGS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE IN THIS ROOM. 
          UM, I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS IN HERE, AS WELL AS YOUR WORK SESSIONS IN HERE. 
          WE COULD SPREAD IT OUT, MAKE IT MORE SOCIALLY DISTANCE. 
          UM, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE BASED UPON WHAT I'M HEARING FROM RICHMOND. 
          IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE IN THE SPRING. 
          SO BE THINKING ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MEETINGS, IF YOU WANT TO GO MORE REMOTE, I THINK WE STILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY UNDER THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO DO THAT. 
          AS LONG AS WE DON'T VIOLATE FOYA, WHICH NOW WE HAVE SWAG IT SO PEOPLE CAN WATCH LIVE ON TWO DIFFERENT CHANNELS, BLUE FIBER OR HAND COMCAST AS WELL AS GOING ON INNER. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED. 
          SO, SO WE CAN HAVE OUR MEETINGS HERE. 
          THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER WITH THE PUBLIC INVOLVED. 
          AND THEN, WELL, IT DEPENDS IF HE WANTED TO, IF SOME OF YOU WANTED TO COME HERE IN PERSON, I MEAN, IN PERSON, OTHERS COULD COME IN ONLINE. 
          WE COULD HAVE STAFF REMOTE IN ONLINE AND DO THEIR BRIEFINGS AS OPPOSED TO COMING IN PERSON. 
          SO A LOT LESS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TONIGHT I HAD COUNTED, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 17, 18 PEOPLE SCHEDULED TO BE IN HERE TONIGHT. 
          SO A WORK SESSION WHERE WE COULD DO REGULAR MEETINGS AS WELL. 
          BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IN CASE SOMEBODY ASKS, IF IT'S A REGULAR MEETING, HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO INCLUDE A PUBLIC PORTION OR WOULD WE PUBLIC INPUT? PROBABLY WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T PUBLIC INPUT. 
          YOU COULD, YOU COULD HAVE A PODIUM AND LET THE PUBLIC COME IN HERE AND SPEAK JUST ONE AT A TIME. 
          SO JUST CURIOUS. 
          DEPENDS IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT THAT YOU ALL NEED TO CONSIDER INTEREST FOR DOING THAT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE, MAN?
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